In Part 1 of "The Jihad Trail" series, CBN News
profiled one militant group in London that uses the United States
to train its recruits. In Part 2 of this series, senior reporter
George Thomas talks to one of those recruits who allegedly trained
in America for jihad.
LONDON (CBN News) — Osman Muqatil calls himself a "soldier
of Islam," and for him, killing in the name of Allah is an act
of worship. "In order to love my Creator, if I have to kill,
I have to kill," the 22-year-old told CBN News. Becoming a "shahid,"
a martyr, guarantees him a one-way ticket to "Jena" or paradise.
"Martyrdom in Islam is recognized to be something great, not
something small. Meaning that in all the things that you have
done in the world, you will be cleansed of, because you sacrificed
your body for Islam, for Allah, for the creator," Muqatil said.
Today, Muqatil and thousands of militant faithful like him,
believe waging a holy war against the infidels and oppressors
in Muslim lands is a divine obligation.
"For us it is something natural, something that we are immune
to, that we can just get up and go, get up and fight, we can
just get up and train," said Muqatil.
Originally from Pakistan, but born and raised in Britain, Muqatil
was 17 when he began his path to jihad. He was recruited, nurtured,
and trained for Islam's holy war by Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed,
London's most outspoken radical Islamic leader.
Bakri and his group, Al-Muhajiroun, have boasted of sending
up to 2,000 Britons a year abroad to fight for Islam.
"Their job is, when a Muslim land is involved or attacked by
foreign forces and comes under occupation, to provide help and
support, financially, physically or verbally," Bakri said.
According to press reports, Bakri’s "Jihad Network" sends
recruits to military training camps funded by Islamic groups
in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Pakistan, Sudan and others. These
groups are regarded as terrorist organizations by the U.S. State
Department.
Several years ago, Bakri introduced Muqatil to the leaders
of Sakina Security Services, a London-based firm that trains
Islamic militants for jihad.
Muqatil says he signed-up for what Sakina's website calls the
"The Ultimate Jihad Challenge." The program, which promises
to keep "theory to a minimum," teaches recruits how to ambush
enemy forces, engage multiple targets, take hostages, shoot
as a sniper, and the list goes on and on.
According to the website, all military training "must be done
overseas" because of strict guns laws in Great Britain. In fact,
some claim that the most ideal country to obtain such military
training is the United States.
"The most popular place is U.S.A. because it is open, it is
legal!" Bakri said.
Bakri says relaxed gun laws and access to advanced equipment
makes America a more friendly environment for training.
"In America there are more sophisticated equipment and machines
and automatic machines and sometimes explosives and survival
camps is available where you go and work together as a team,"
he said. "We use U.S.A. because whenever we go to Afghanistan,
U.S.A. labels us terrorist. Okay, so let us go to America. You
call us tourists!"
Britain's Sunday Telegraph newspaper reports strong
links between Sakina's leadership and Sheikh Omar Bakri.
Three years ago, Muqatil and several other British Muslim recruits,
boarded a plane from London to New York's John F. Kennedy airport.
As soon as they landed, they were detained and questioned by
airport authorities.
"Five of us were taken into separate interview rooms asking
us questions — where we live, where we come from, why
we are here," Muqatil said. "They asked as many questions, even
to the extent of asking us questions about Osama bin Laden.
Now I am not related to him, I don't know if I look like him,
and I am not a part of his group, but of course I condone what
he is doing and I support what he is doing and I told them that
and they did not like it. In fact, they wanted to keep me in
detention because of that statement."
But he and the others were released after hours of interrogation.
For the next few days, the group traveled by bus, train, car
and plane to avoid detection by U.S. authorities.
"The journey we took was in circles for the government. We
had to travel down to the south, then we traveled east and from
there in the night, we had to travel again. Sometimes we had
to go in different ways and then meet at a rendezvous point.
It was a very long and tiring journey but that was because of
safety reasons," Muqatil said.
Their final destination was "around the Texas area" according
to Muqatil. For seven weeks, he joined other Muslim jihad fighters
from "America, Canada, there was a quite a few from Africa as
well and a small proportion from Europe."
There were 75 recruits in all, being trained for holy war by
ex-British SAS elite forces. "And there were many ex-Navy SEALS
that were teaching us as well from America in America," Muqatil
claimed.
CBN News found no evidence to confirm Muqatil's claim that
former Navy SEALS or SAS agents were involved in the military
training.
According to Muqatil, many of the trainers were non-Muslims
who willing to share their military training expertise for money.
"But for us it was an issue of belief, an issue of obligation
towards Islam," he said. "In the morning we would be taught
by the ex-Navy SEALS or the ex-SAS on hand-to-hand combat and
then in the evening we would be taught how to use the firearms
and the teachers would switch."
And they became acquainted with a variety of firearms. "Firearms
like you could say the handguns, revolvers, we had a chance
to fire a few AK-47's and the new types of semi-automatics as
well. We trained on the issue of explosives on how to detonate
them and how to put them together, and from there basics of
how to make home-made explosives."
Bob Blitzer was in charge of the FBI's counter-terrorism division
in 1993, and he says there are hundreds of private and legally
registered U.S. companies that provide military training. He
says anyone with money can easily secure the facility and the
expertise.
"So they are going to go to some place where they can get the
skills that they need to conduct either military combat or terrorist
operations, and frankly speaking, some of those skills they
can get here, and get here legally," Blitzer said.
From the Texas area, Muqatil and the other recruits traveled
to Pakistan for more military training. A month later, they
crossed over the border into Afghanistan. Muqatil was reluctant
to say whose camp he attended in Afghanistan, but after a little
prodding he announced he was trained in the camp of none other
than "the blessed Mujaheed, Sheikh Osama bin Laden."
According to Muqatil, he was taught how to operate tanks, launch
missiles, handle explosives and other more advanced training.
At first he did not know who was sponsoring the camp, but Muqatil
said when found out that the camp was sponsored in part by bin
Laden, "It made me feel great! But unfortunately, we did not
have the opportunity to meet him. It would have been a great
honor and it would have completed my training."
Muqatil knows that Americans who hear he attended a bin Laden
camp would call him "...a terrorist, most definitely, a fundamentalist,
an extremist. But I am proud of that," he said.
When asked if he considers himself a terrorist, Muqatil became
philosophical.
"I am only a terrorist if the people believe I am a terrorist.
If they think that I am training because I am a Muslim —
then I am a terrorist. If I have proof of Islam rationally in
my mind and if that's a fundamentalist, then I am a fundamentalist.
If they believe that this man will only do anything to worship
his creator, meaning he won't obey man-made law, he would not
submit to man in any way, he will not submit to the laws of
America or Britain or the United Nations, but he only obeys
the law of God, of Allah, then I am a terrorist."
From the bin Laden training camp in Afghanistan, Muqatil crossed
over Pakistan and headed to the disputed region of Kashmir.
There he and the other Muslim recruits joined hundreds of Pakistani
soldiers in a fierce battle against the Indian army. Muqatil
says Kashmir, which is under Indian rule, belongs to the Muslims
and must be liberated through jihad.
And he says all of the practice he engaged in beforehand paid
off in battle. "Oh, most definitely it was worth all the training
that we did in America, all the training we had done in Kashmir,
and Afghanistan, we used every bit of it and it was amazing,"
Muqatil said. "I personally killed a few of the soldiers in
Kashmir, and it wasn't always easy."
But Muqatil said killing another person was a way of practicing
his faith.
"It wasn't easy. It was an act of worship for me. They don't
haunt me but I remember them, how easy it is to take life and
what man is. Man is so weak, man is so nothing, man is like
a piece of twig, where you can break and it shows."
Blitzer explained that the militant Muslims being recruited
in Britain are not only preparing to fight wars back home in
Pakistan and Afghanistan. "The concern is they are using this
country as at least a partial place to prepare terrorists to
conduct violent operations against one of our allies," he said.
U.S. and British authorities are investigating the recruiting
and training activities of Sakina Security Services. The FBI
has asked Scotland Yard to track down hundreds of British Muslims
who may have trained at camps in Afghanistan linked to Bin Laden.
According to British newspaper reports, the FBI is also looking
at Sakina's use of U.S. facilities to train recruits for jihad.
Muqatil’s mindset provides insight into the thinking
shared by many other militant Muslims. When asked if he would
want to fight in another war, whether in Kashmir, Chechnya or
anywhere else in the world, he said he would not think twice
about it.
"I would do it again and again and again no matter what happens.
I will never stop because it is an act of worship, it’s
an act of reward, it’s something that I love. In order
to love my creator, if I have to kill, I have to kill," he said.
Osman Muqatil says he was trained by former British SAS
and U.S. Navy SEAL officers. When CBN News first aired this
story a year ago, we could not verify whether or not that was
true. But since then, ABC News has reported that a training
camp for Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama. Scotland
Yard and the FBI are now investigating the camp's owner, Mark
Yates, a former British SAS officer, and a Muslim.
Both Muqatil and Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed of Al-Muhajiroun
were interviewed on camera by CBN News prior to September 11,
2001. Since the attacks, Bakri has denied reports that he recruits
and sends British Muslims to fight for jihad. He also denies
any ties to Sakina Security Services.
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