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700 Club Interactive - Ghost Hunter - October 28, 2011

Interactive's Gordon Robertson and Terry Meeuwsen discuss ghost hunters, as Ryan Hendricks, the 'ghost hunter,' shares about his experiences. Read Transcript


[APPLAUSE]

Terry: HI, EVERYBODY,

WELCOME TO "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

FROM GHOSTS TO PARANORMAL

STATES, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU

CAN'T WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN

INVESTIGATION INTO THE

UNKNOWN MAKES YOU A TARGET

FOR DARK OCCURRENCES THAT

YOU CAN'T EXPLAIN.

Gordon: WE'RE FOG TO

TAKE A LOOK AT A

SELF-PROCLAIMED GHOST

HUNTER.

WHAT STARTED OUT AS A SIMPLE

HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT BECAME

AN ADDICTION HE COULDN'T

ESCAPE.

MY NAME IS RYAN, AND I

WAS A PARANORMAL

INVESTIGATOR.

I STARTED IN THE PARANORMAL

AT SCHOOL.

WE HAD AN ENGLISH PROJECT.

I CHOSE PARANORM

PHENOMENON.

I DECIDED TO COLLECT MY

EVIDENCE FROM A SOURCE OF

BOOK, AND IT SHOWED YOU HOW

TO MAKE DOUSING RODS.

AND THE SPIRITS WILL SWAY

THEM BACK AND FORTH TO

ANSWER YES OR NO QUESTIONS.

AND I ALSO GOT A OUIJA

BOARD, AND I HAD A VIDEO

CAMERA.

HE HAD A BIG FASCINATION

WITH THE PARANORMAL FOR A

FEW YEARS.

I TOLD HIM TO LEAVE IT

ALONE.

IT IS DANGEROUS.

Reporter.

THE FIRST TIME WE WERE AT

MY CHURCH, AND THE CHURCH

WAS BUILT IN 1889.

AND WE FIGURED IF IT WAS

REALLY OLD, THERE IS

PROBABLY A LOT OF ACTIVITY

THERE.

THE FIRST QUESTION I ASKED

IS IF THERE ARE ANY SPIRITS

HERE, AND THE DOUSE RODS

MADE AN "X," WHICH MEANS

YES.

WE ASKED QUESTIONS, AND WE

FINALLY GOT TO, ARE YOU A

NICE SPIRIT.

AND THE DOUSING RODS, WHEN

IT ANSWERED, THEY PULLED

APART SO FAST THEY LEFT RED

MARKS ON EACH SIDE OF MY

NECK, LIKE BLISTERS.

WE WENT TO THE CHURCH

CEMETERY, AND I STARTED

ASKING QUESTIONS WITH THE

DOUSING RODS, AND WE HEARD

THIS SNAPPING NOISE FROM THE

WOODS.

IT WAS AN IMAGE OF A GUY

WALKING OUT,@T

SHADOW.

IT STARTED WALKING TOWARDS

US, SO WE RAN.

COMMUNICATING WITH SPIRITS

GOT TO BE LIKE ADDICTING.

I DID IT, LIKE, DURING EVERY

SECOND OF MY SPARE TIME.

THEY WERE CUSSING ME OUT AND

TELLING ME TO DO CRAP TO

OTHER PEOPLE.

I SAW THE DEMONS AND PRETTY

MUCH A LOT OF THE

REFLECTIONS, AND THE

REFLECTION OFF OF THE TV AND

MIRRORS AND WINDOWS.

ANYWHERE THERE WAS A

REFLECTION, THERE IS MOST

LIKELY GOING TO BE SOMEBODY

LOOKING BACK AT ME.

I JUST HAPPENED TO GO TO

CHURCH ONE DAY, ON A

WEDNESDAY AFTER I HADN'T

BEEN FOR SIX MONTHS.

I STARTED TELLING ABOUT THE

PROJECT, AND SHE STOPPED ME

IN MID-SENTENCE, TELLING ME

HOW THEY'RE NOT GHOSTS,

THEY'RE DEMONS.

HOW DANGEROUS IT COULD BE.

AND THE ONLY WAY I COULD

ESCAPE THE DEMONIC BONDAGE

WAS THROUGH THE BLOOD OF

JESUS CHRIST.

I WAS JUST SITTING THERE

WHEN SHE STARTED PRAYING FOR

ME.

I COULDN'T HELP IT, BUT I

JUST KEPT GETTING ANGRIER

AND ANGRIERMENT AND SHE

LOOKED AT ME AND SHE WAS

LIKE, WHAT ARE THEY TELLING

YOU.

THAT CREEPED ME OUT AND I

KIND OF ENDED IT.

I WAS SCARED TO DEATH.

WHEN I WAS DRIVING HOME, I

JUST BLASTED THE MUSIC TO

TRY TO CLEAR MY MIND OF

EVERYTHING THAT WAS

HAPPENING.

BUT THE DAY GOT STRONGER

UNTIL I FELT LIKE I WAS

INTOXICATED.

I FINALLY GOT HOME, AND MY

MOM HAD WOKEN UP 30 SECONDS

BEFORE I ACTUALLY DROVE UP

TO THE HOUSE.

AND SHE FELT LIKE SOMETHING

WAS WRONG.

AS SOON AS I TOOK A STEP IN,

I SAW MY MOM, BUT THEN MY

VISION COMPLETELY JUST FADED

OUT.

I LOOKED BACK AND THERE WAS

JUST, LIKE, THE DEMON.

IT WAS MORE CLEAR AND JUST,

LIKE, EVERY DETAIL OF HIS

BODY AND EVERYTHING WAS

JUST, LIKE, RIGHT THERE.

AND HE JUST LOOKED AT ME,

AND THEN HE DISAPPEARED.

BUT I KNOW WHERE HE WENT.

HE WENT INTO ME.

IT WAS TRULY THE MOST, LIKE,

PAINFUL, AGONIZING FEELING

I'VE EVER EXPERIENCED IN MY

LIFE.

I JUST LOST ALL AND COMPLETE

CONTROL OF MY BODY.

I COULDN'T BREATHE.

I COULDN'T SEE.

I MEAN, I COULDN'T MOVE AT

MY OWN WILL.

I REMEMBER HEARING MY OWN

VOICE THAT WASN'T MINE.

IT WAS A REALLY DEEP, SONIC

VOICE, BUT IT WAS COMING OUT

OF MY MOUTH.

I REMEMBER LOOKING AT MY MOM

AND GOING TOWARDS HER, AND

AS SOON AS I TOUCHED HER, I

JUST STOPPED.

I WOKE UP TO RYAN JUST

ABOUT SCREAMING AT THE TOP

OF HIS LUNGS, SOMEBODY HELP

ME.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I WAS

GOING ON.

IT WAS LATE AT NIGHT.

SO I COME RUNNING DOWN THE

HALL AND FOUND HIS MOTHER

AND HIM AT THE FRONT DOOR.

BOTH OF THEM HUGGING EACH

OTHER.

HE HAD THIS HEAD DOWN

AGAINST HER.

HE SEEMED HORRIFIED.

ME AND MY DAD SAT DOWN ON

THE COUCH, AND HE WENT TO

EXPLAIN THE GOSPEL TO ME

BEFORE I ACCEPTED CHRIST.

AND MY FACE JUST STARTED

DOING THESE WEIRD MOVEMENTS,

AND JUST LIKE MOVING AND

TWITCHING AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN THE PUPILS OF MY

EYE GOT BIGGER.

DISTRACTIONS STARTED

HAPPENING.

MY DOG STARTED MAKING

NOISES.

AND I SAID, YOU KEEP YOUR

EYES AND ME AND LISTEN TO

WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.

HE SAID HE FELT A

PRESSURE ON THE BACK OF HIS

NECK, AND THAT'S WHEN I TOLD

HIM, I WAS LIKE, DAD, YOU

DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE

MESSING WITH.

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW STRONG

THESE THINGS ARE.

I SAID NO, THEY DON'T

KNOW WHO THEY'RE MESSING

WITH.

WE JOINED HANDS.

I KNEW I HAD CHRIST WITH

ME.

I FELT LIKE SUPERMAN WITHOUT

KRYPTONITE.

I ADDRESSED THE DEMONS.

I COULD LITERALLY FEEL HIS

PRESENCE BEHIND ME.

AFTER THAT, THERE WAS JUST A

WHOLE DIFFERENT FEELING IN

THE HOUSE.

AS SOON AS HE ASKED ME IF

I WANTED TO ACCEPT JESUS

CHRIST AS MY PERSONAL LORD

AND SAVIOR, I SAID YES LIKE

THERE WAS NO TOMORROW.

I LED HIM THROUGH THE

SINNER'S PRAYER, AND HE

OPENED HIS EYES, AND HIS

PUPILS AND EVERYTHING WERE

NORMAL.

I HAD THIS OVERJOYFUL

FEELING.

I CAN'T EVEN EXPLAIN HOW

GOOD IT FELT TO BE FREE.

WHAT GOD CAN DO IN SOMEONE'S

LIFE IS SO MUCH MORE

POWERFUL THAN WHAT A DEMON

CAN DO ON EARTH.

I KNOW GOD IS WITH ME,

WHEREVER I AM.

SO HE IS LOOKING AFTER ME.

Gordon: AND HE'LL BE

LOOKING AFT YOU -- AFTER

YOU, TOO, IF YOU JUST LET

HIM.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS JUST

ASK HIM IN.

HERE IS WHAT MOSES HAD TO

SAY ABOUT THESE VARIOUS

PRACTICES, WHETHER YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT IDOLOTRY, OR

SOOTHSAYERS, HERE IS WHAT

YOU'RE REALLY COMMUNICATING

WITH.

DEUTERONOMY 32: "THEY

SACRIFICE TO DEMONS --"

THAT'S WHAT IS BEHIND ALL OF

THIS.

THEY SACRIFICE TO DEMONS,

NOT TO GOD.

TO GODS THEY DID NOT KNOW,

THAT YOUR FATHERS DID NOT

FEAR.

IT IS ALWAYS THIS NEW THING,

AND IT IS TRYING TO GIVE YOU

THE SECRET KNOWLEDGE, AND

WE'LL SHOW YOU THINGS ABOUT

THE FUTURE, AND WE'LL SHOW

YOU ALL OF THIS WONDERFUL

STUFF.

AND IT'S ALWAYS NEW, BUT IT

IS ACTUALLY QUITE OLD.

THE NEW AGE IS NOT NEW AT

ALL.

IT IS ALL OLD AND IT IS ALL

DEMONIC POWER.

LALEVITICUS 13: "DO NOT

SEEK THEM OR BE DEFILED BY

THEM.

I AM THE LORD, YOUR GOD."

WHEN YOU SEEK AFTER THIS

STUFF, IT CAN BECOME

ADDICTIVE.

ONE OF THE AMAZING THINGS

THAT MISSIONARIES REPORT

BACK IS THEY'LL SEE A

POPULATION COME TO KNOW

JESUS CHRIST, BUT THEN OVER

TIME GO BACK TO THEIR

IDOLOTRIES AND THEIR SPIRIT

WORSHIP BECAUSE THEY'RE

LITERALLY ADDICTED TO IT.

THEY HAVE THIS FEAR IF THEY

DON'T DO IT, SOMEHOW THESE

SPIRITS ARE GOING TO ATTACK

THEM OR GET EVEN WITH THEM

OR DO THINGS TO THEM.

IN THE EARLY CHURCH HISTORY,

YOU HAD A LOT OF GREEK

CITIES COME AND COMPLAIN

THAT THE DEMONS WERE

COMPLAINING ABOUT THE

CHRISTIANS, THAT THEY

WEREN'T AS FREE TO ACT IN

THEIR CULTURES BECAUSE OF

THE INFLUENCE OF THE PRAYERS

OF THE CHRISTIANS.

WHEN YOU CONSULT WITH

MEDIUMS, WHEN YOU DO THESE

THINGS, WHEN YOU HAVE

IDOLOTRY, THESE KINDS OF

ACTS -- THE PEOPLE LITERALLY

GET DEFILED, AND THEN IT

BECOMES A COMPULSION, WHERE

THEY'RE TRYING DESPERATELY

TO GET CLEAN THE SAME WEIGH

WAY THEY GOT DEFILED, AND IT

NEVER WORKS.

AND IT IS ONLY THE BLOOD OF

JESUS CHRIST THAT CAN SET

THEM FREE.

HERE IS WHAT MOSES AGAIN HAD

TO SAY, FROM DEUTERONOMY 18:

"WHEN YOU COME INTO THE

LAND, WHICH THE LORD YOUR

GOD IS GIVING YOU, YOU

SHOULD NOT LEARN TO FOLLOW

THE ABOMINATIONS AMONG

THEM.

ANYONE WHO MAKES THEIR SON

OR DAUGHTER PASS THROUGH THE

FIRE OR ONE WHO PRACTICES

WITCHCRAFT OR A SOOTHSAYER,

OR ONE WHO CONJURES SPELLS

OR MEDIUM OR SORCEROR OR ONE

WHO CALLS UP THE DEAD."

THAT'S A REAL COMPLETE

LIST.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CULTURE,

WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY

TRYING TO DO THIS STUFF, YOU

DO SHAKE YOUR HEAD AND GO,

WHAT IN THE WORLD ARE THEY

CHASING AFTER.

HERE IS WHAT GOD HAS TO SAY

ABOUT IT: "FOR U ALL WHO DO

THESE THINGS ARE AN

ABOMINATION TO THE LORD.

BECAUSE OF THESE

ABOMINATIONS, THE LORD, YOUR

GOD, DRIVES THEM OUT BEFORE

YOU.

YOU SHALL BE BLAMELESS

BEFORE THE LORD.

FOR THESE NATIONS THAT

LISTEN TO SOOTHE SAYERS AND

DIVINERS, BUT AS FOR YOU --"

AND THIS IS WHAT A GREAT

PROMISE WE HAVE.

IT IS INTERESTING TO ME

AFTER ALL THIS LIST, THE

LORD SAYS, "THE LORD YOUR

GOD HAS NOT APPOINTED SUCH

FOR YOU."

YOU'RE NOT APPOINTED TO

LISTEN TO THE PARANORMAL.

YOU'RE NOT APPOINTED TO GO

GHOST HUNTING.

YOU'RE NOT AP POINTED TO

HAVE A MEDIUM OR A PSYCHIC

OR GO TO TAROT CARDS.

HERE IS WHAT IS FOR YOU:

"THE LORD YOUR GOD WILL

RAISE UP FOR YOU A PROPHET

LIKE ME FROM YOUR MIDST,

FROM YOUR BREATHORIN, HIM,

YOU SHALL HEAR."

WHAT IS MOSES TALKING ABOUT?

MOSES IS TALKING ABOUT THE

MESSIAH.

FROM THE JEWISH PEOPLE, FROM

THE PEOPLE THAT GOD SET FREE

FROM SLAVERY IN EGYPT, FROM

HIM, THE VERY PEOPLE HE

ESTABLISHED IN ISRAEL, WILL

BE BORN A SAVIOR.

WILL BE BORN A MESSIAH.

AND NONE IS GREATER THAN

HIM.

AND WHEN YOU LISTEN TO WHAT

HEBREWS SAYS ABOUT HIM, IN

TIMES PAST GOD SPOKE TO US

THROUGH THE PROPHETS, BUT

NOW HE SPEAKS THROUGH HIS

SON.

AND WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND THAT

HE IS THE ONE APPOINTED FOR

YOU, HE IS THE MEDIATOR

BETWEEN GOD AND MAN, HE IS

THE PATHWAY TO THE FATHER,

HE IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH,

AND THE LIFE.

NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER

BUT BY HIM.

AND THEN WHEN YOU

UNDERSTAND, YOU CAN ASK HIM

QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN HEAR

HIS VOICE AND YOU CAN HAVE

THE PEACE THAT PASSES ALL

UNDERSTANDING, AND THEN WHY

EIN THE WORLD WOULD YOU GO

TO A SOOTHSAYER?

WHY WOULD YOU GO TO SOME

DARK FORCE WHEN YOU CAN GO

TO THE LIGHT AND HEAR

CLEARLY WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO

DO.

HE DWELT ON EARTH AND CAME

IN THE FLESH AND HE LEFT A

RECORD OF WHAT HE DID AND HE

ACCOMPLISHED.

AND THE BIGGEST RECORD HE

LEFT IS HE ROSE AGAIN AND

WILL COME INTO YOUR HEART IF

YOU JUST ASK HIM.

SO IF YOU WANT POWER, IF YOU

WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR

CALLING IS, WHAT YOUR

PURPOSE IN LIFE IS, IF YOU

WANT TO KNOW THESE THINGS,

WELL, ASK JESUS.

HE'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

IF YOU WANT DREAMS AND

VISIONS, ASK HIM FOR IT.

IF YOU WANT HIM TO SPEAK TO

YOU AND HEAR HIS VOICE, SAY

LORD, OPEN MY EARS AND OPEN

MY EYES.

GIVE ME A HEART OF

UNDERSTANDING THAT I MAY

KNOW THE GREATNESS OF YOUR

POWER TOWARDS THOSE WHO

BELIEVE.

WHEN WE COME BACK, A MOTHER

ABANDONS HER DAUGHTER IN A

CEMETERY.

FIND OUT HOW SHE ESCAPED

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: SOME PARENTS MAY

TAKE THEIR CHILDREN TO THE

CEMETERY TO VISIT THE GRAVES

OF FAMILY MEMBERS OR

FRIENDS, BUT IN GUATEMALA

ONE WOMAN TOOK HER DAUGHTER

TO THE CEMETERY FOR A VERY

DIFFERENT REASON.

Reporter: ARI REMEMBERS

THE DAY HER MOTHER ABANDONED

HER IN A CEMETERY IN

GUATEMALA.

SHE WAS ONLY FIVE.

MY MAMA SAID TO ME, I AM

LEAVING YOU HERE BECAUSE YOU

NEVER OBEY.

I WAS HUNGRY.

I HAD NO SHOES, AND I DIDN'T

KNOW WHERE TO GO.

Reporter: WHEN A WOMAN

FOUND HER, SHE BROUGHT HER

TO A NEARBY ORPHANAGE,

SUPPORTED BY CBN'S "ORPHANS'

PROMISE".

THIS IS HOME TO 39 CHILDREN

AND NOW IS HOME TO ARI.

AND NOW TO ONGOING SUPPORT

FROM "ORPHANS' PROMISE", THE

HOME IS ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR

ARI AND THE OTHER CHILDREN'S

NEEDS.

IT IS MUCH BETTER TO LIVE

HERE.

I AM NOT HUNGRY ANYMORE.

AND I LIKE PLAYING WITH THE

OTHER KIDS.

Reporter: RECENT THE

CBN PROVIDED NEW SHOES FOR

ALL OF THE CHILDREN,

SOMETHING MOST OF THEM HAVE

NEVER OWNED BEFORE.

AND "ORPHANS' PROMISE"

BROUGHT THE CHILDREN A LARGE

TV SO THAT ALL OF THEM CAN

WATCH THEIR FAVORITE

PROGRAMS TOGETHER, INCLUDING

CBN'S SUPER BOOK, WHICH IS

TEACHING THEM ABOUT JESUS

AND THE TRUTHS OF THE

BIBLE.

I LEARNED FROM SUPER BOOK

THAT WE SHOULD ALWAYS TELL

THE TRUTH.

THANK YOU "OPERATION

BLESSING."

Terry: CAN YOU IMAGINE

BEING LEFT ALONE AS A CHILD?

CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE BEING

LEFT ALONE IN A CEMETERY AND

TOLD THAT IT IS YOUR FAULT

THAT YOU'RE BEING LEFT

THERE?

YOU KNOW IN SOME CULTURES

CHILDREN ARE JUST SO

MISUNDERSTOOD, MISUSED, AND

MANY EVEN ABUSED.

YOU AND I HAVE AN

OPPORTUNITY TO BRING LIGHT

INTO THE MIDST OF THAT.

FOR THIS LITTLE GIRL TO GO

TO THIS HOME FOR CHILDREN

WAS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY

FOR HER TO FEEL LOVED AND

ACCEPTED, TO HAVE HER NEEDS

PROVIDED FOR, AND TO FIND

OUT ABOUT HOW MUCH JESUS

LOVES HER.

YOU MAKE THAT POSSIBLE WHEN

YOU SUPPORT THE WORK ARE

"ORPHANS' PROMISE".

SO WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK

YOU.

THANK YOU.

WHEN YOU JOIN "THE 700 CLUB"

AND YOU BECOME PART OF CBN,

YOU ARE MAKING THIS HAPPEN

AROUND THE WORLD.

TO ALL OF YOU, ON BEHALF OF

THE CHILDREN AROUND THE

WORLD, WE SAY THANKS.

YOU CAN GIVE YOUR GIFT BY

CALLING 1-888-777-1999, OR

YOU CAN ALSO GIVE BY LOGGING

ON TO CBN.COM.

WELL, UP NEXT, WE'RE GOING

TO BE ANSWERING YOUR

QUESTIONS.

ISAAC ASKS, "CAN YOU BE

POSSESSED BY A DEMON AND NOT

KNOW IT?"

FIND OUT THE ANSWER, AFTER THIS.

Terry: WE'VE RECEIVED

YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

PARANORMAL, AND THE FIRST

ONE COMES FROM TIFFANY WHO

WRITES: "I'VE BEEN HAVING A

LOT OF WEIRD ENCOUNTERS

LATELY.

I'LL BE HALF ASLEEP WHEN I

HEAR A DARK FORCE AROUND

ME.

OFTEN I HEAR FOOTSTEPS AND

SOME MOVEMENT IN MY ROOM

WHEN THIS HAPPENS.

I TRY TO SAY THE NAME OF

JESUS, AND YET I CANNOT

SPEAK.

ARE THESE ENCOUNTERS COMMON

AMONG CHRISTIANS, AND WHAT

DO I NEED TO DO?"

Gordon: I WOULD SAY

THESE ENCOUNTERS ARE NOT

COMMON.

IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE IN

THE MIDDLE OF IT TO SPEAK, I

WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET

OTHER CHRISTIANS TO COME

WITH YOU AND WALK THROUGH

THE HOUSE.

UNDERSTAND THAT ONE CAN PUT

A THOUSAND TO FLIGHT, BUT

TWO CAN PUT 10,000 TO

FLIGHT.

SO WHEN YOU GET CHRISTIANS

IN AGREEMENT AND YOU PRAY

OVER YOUR HOME, OVER ERY

BEDROOM, AND PLEAD THE BLOOD

OF JESUS CHRIST OVER IT, AND

THEN DO MORE THAN THAT, TAKE

THE NEXT STEP, WHICH IS

COMMAND THEM TO LEAVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVE

AUTHORITY TO DO IS WE CAN

BIND.

SO BIND AND REMOVE THEIR

ABILITY TO IMPACT YOU

ANYMORE OR APPROACH YOU

ANYMORE.

AND THEY HAVE TO OBEY.

SO GET OTHER CHRISTIANS TO

COME WITH YOU AND DO A

PRAYER WALK THROUGH YOUR

HOME.

I KNOW WHEN I MOVED INTO MY

HOME, I CERTAINLY DID THAT.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE

ANYTHING THAT MAY HAVE TAKEN

UP RESIDENCE WAS GONE.

SO I THINK THAT IS

APPROPRIATE AND EASILY

DONE.

Terry: WELL, WE'VE GOT

ANOTHER QUESTION.

Gordon: THIS ONE IS FOR

YOU.

BARBARA ASKS: "IF YOU WATCH

MOVIES ABOUT GHOSTS, WILL IT

OPEN DOORS IN YOUR LIFE TO

BAD THINGS?"

Terry: WELL, WILL IT OR

CAN IT?

IT WON'T NECESSARILY, BUT I

WOULD SAY THAT IT CAN.

I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE IN

THIS, BARBARA, TO ME IS KIND

OF THE SCRIPTURE THAT GORDON

READ EARLIER.

HE TALKED ABOUT THE THINGS

THAT ARE AN ABOMINATION TO

GOD.

ONE OF THE THINGS IN THAT

LIST WAS ONE WHO CALLS UP

THE DEAD.

AND WHY WOULD WE, AS

FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST, WHO

NEED TO FOCUS AND PUT OUR

COMMITMENT AND OUR EFFORT

INTO KNOWING HIM, DRAWING

CLOSE TO HIM, HEARING HIS

VOICE, UNDERSTANDING OUR

PURPOSE WHILE WE'RE HERE,

FIRST OF ALL, WASTE OUR TIME

WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SECOND, WHY WOULD WE BE

INTERESTED IN SOMETHING LIKE

THAT.

I THINK OUR FOCUS NEEDS TO

BE ON BEING BLAMELESS BEFORE

THE LORD.

HOW DO I LIVE FOR YOU?

HOW CAN I BE USED BY YOU.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE AN

ANTITHESIS OF THAT IS

WATCHING A DEMONIC MOVIE.

MAYBE THAT IS PART OF THE

PROBLEM WE SEE IN OUR WORLD

AND IN OUR CULTURE.

WE WANT TO HAVE JESUS AND

JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE

WORLD, TOO.

AND YOU KNOW WHEN THAT

HAPPENS, AFTER A WHILE, WE

START DILUTING OUR OWN

COMMITMENT TO CHRIST.

I THINK WE NEED TO GET

FOCUSED AND PASSIONATE ABOUT

BEING RIGHT ON.

Gordon: ONE OF THE

SCRIPTURES IS: "WHATSOEVER

IS NOT OF FAITH IS SIN."

IF YOU LIVE WITH THAT ONE,

THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO LIVE

BY.

Terry: THIS IS FOR YOU,

MY FRIEND.

ISAAC SAYS: "CAN YOU BE

POTESTIFI POSSESSED BY A

DEMON AND NOT KNOW IT?"

Gordon: I THINK IT IS

UNLIKELY.

I THINK THERE ARE CASES

WHERE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN

POSSESSED AND DID NOT KNOW

IT.

BUT TO BE POTESTIFIED,

YOU -- POSSESSED, YOU HAVE

TO OPEN THE DOOR.

HAVE YOU TO GIVE PERMISSION

FOR THEM TO COME IN.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO KNOW

THAT.

I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO WILL

MANIFEST DEMONIC ACTIVITY IN

THE MIDDLE OF A MEETING WHO

WERE OTHERWISE NORMAL BEFORE

THE MEETING STARTED.

BUT IN THE PRESENCE OF

JESUS, AS JESUS IS BEING

PROCLAIMED, THEY'LL START

DOING SOME VERY UNUSUAL

THINGS.

AND PARTICULAR IN MY MISSION

TRAVELS IN MALAYSIA AND IN

INDIA, OTHERWISE NORMAL

PEOPLE CAME INTO THE

MEETING.

AND THEIR HEARTS WERE

EAGER.

THEY WANTED TO HEAR THE

GOSPEL.

BUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT,

THEY STARTED WAILING AND

HOWLING.

SO I DOUBT THEY KNEW THAT

THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT

BEFORE THEY SHOWED UP.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY

SUSPICION, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD

TO JUST SAY, OKAY -- AND DO

THIS YOURSELF.

YOU CAN CLEANSE YOURSELF.

YOU SAY I RENOUNCE ALL OF

THE WORKS OF SATAN.

I WANT NO DEMONIC ACTIVITY

IN MY LIFE.

I CANCEL EVERYTHING AND I

CANCEL ANY HOLD OVER ME.

AND I COMMAND IT NOW TO

LEAVE.

AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU'LL

FIND A WHOLE OF HEAVEN IS ON

YOUR SIDE AND WANTING TO

HELP YOU AND HELP YOU GET

FREE.

WE'VE GOT SOME CHAT

QUESTIONS BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY

THIS TOPIC SEEMS TO HAVE

GOTTEN SOME INTEREST FROM

OUR CHATROOM.

JOSEPH, WHAT DO WE HAVE?

WE HAVE DREW AND HE IS

ASKING ARE ALL GHOSTS

DEMONIC?

Gordon: LET'S GET INTO

THE ROOT -- SOMETIMES

ENGLISH WORDS AREN'T GOOD

FOR TRANSLATING BIBLE

WORDS.

WHEN YOU HEAR THE TERM HOLY

SPIRIT AND HOLY GHOST,

YOU'VE GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY

BACK TO THE HE HEBREW WHICH

IS RUAC, AND THAT'S BREATH.

AND IT CAN BE TRANSLATED

VANITY.

ALL IS VANITY, IT'S BREATH.

ALL IS BREATH.

THESE ARE FLEETING THINGS,

WISPY THINGS.

SOMETIMES WE CAN GET THE

TRANSLATIONS WRONG.

SO THERE IS A HOLY SPIRIT.

AND HE IS SOVEREIGN AND

SOVEREIGN WITH GOD.

THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT THEIR

BEING ANGEL PRESENCE OF US.

WHEN PETER -- THEY WERE

PRAYING FOR HIS DELIVERANCE

FROM PRISON AND HE ACTUALLY

SHOWED UP AT THE GATE.

NOBODY BELIEVED IT WAS

REALLY PETER.

EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE

PRAYING FOR HIM.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, IT IS

HIS GHOST.

AND THE GREEK BEHIND THAT IS

IT IS HIS SPIRIT.

IN REVELATION, THERE IS THE

ANGEL OF JESUS.

HIS ANGEL, HIS PRESENCE IN

SOME TRANSLATIONS TRANSLATE

THAT GHOST.

ARE THERE SPIRITS OF

DEPARTED PEOPLE?

AND THE ANSWER IS YES.

SAMUEL APPEARED TO SAUL, AND

SO THAT HAPPENED IN THE

BIBLE.

IT IS OBVIOUSLY INFREQUENT.

IT IS THE ONLY INSTANCE THAT

IT EVER HAPPENED IN

HISTORY.

SO ARE ALL GHOSTS DEMONS?

NO.

BUT IF YOU'RE OUT THERE

PURSUING THAT, GUESS WHO

YOU'RE GOING TO RUN INTO.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUN INTO

A HOLY SPIRIT.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING

INTO THE WRONG KIND.

IF YOU WANT THE BAPTISM IN

THE HOLY SPIRIT, IF YOU WANT

A DIVINE ENCOUNTER, GO TO

JESUS.

HE IS THE BAPTISTIZER.

AND WHEN YOU UNDERSTAND HE

IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND

THE LIFE, AND YOU UNDERSTAND

THAT'S THE GOOD WAY, THEN

ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS

ARE PALE AND DARK

IMITATIONS.

WE'VE GOT TIME TO TAKE SOME

PHONE CALLS.

HERE IS SUSAN FROM

LOUISIANA.

HI, SUSAN.

SUSAN, ARE YOU THERE?

Caller: YES, I AM.

Gordon: HOW CAN WE PRAY

FOR YOU?

Caller: WELL, I'VE BEEN

STRUGGLING WITH A DISEASE

FOR 20 YEARS.

IT'S LUPUS, AND IT'S CREATED

OTHER ISSUES IN MY BODY,

LIKE HEART AND LUNG AND

NERVOUS SYSTEM DAMAGE.

AND JUST A WHOLE HOST OF

THINGS THAT IS GOING ON

BECAUSE OF THE LUPUS.

AND MY HEART IS DOING

BETTER, ACTUALLY.

MY LAST TWO TESTS, THE

EJECTION FRACTION CAME OUT

NORMAL.

BUT I'M STILL SHOWING SOME

POSITIVE RESULTS FOR THE

LUPUS.

AND, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE

GETTING BETTER, AND GOD GAVE

ME A WORD 10 YEARS AGO, WHEN

I WAS IN CHURCH, AND HE SAID

I'M GOING TO HEAL YOU.

AND SO I'M STANDING ON THAT,

ON HIS WORDS, AND IT'S JUST

TAKING A LITTLE LONGER THAN

I WOULD LIKE.

SO I WOULD JUST APPRECIATE

IF YOU WOULD PRAY FOR ME.

Gordon: SUSAN, I JUST

HEAR HIM IN YOUR VOICE.

I JUST PRAISE GOD FOR WHAT

I'M HEARING.

AND I'M HEARING A WHOLE BOAT

BOOLOAD OF FAITH.

YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT MORE

THAN JUST A MUSTARD SEED.

AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS

MOUNTAIN.

GOD UNDERSTANDS THAT YOU'RE

WEARY AND TIRED AND HE WANTS

TO HEAL YOU AND HE WANTS TO

DO IT RIGHT NOW.

LORD, WE LIFT SUSAN TO YOU,

AND WE JUST COMMIT HER INTO

YOUR CARE AND INTO YOUR LOVE

AND INTO YOUR HEALING.

I JUST ASK THAT YOUR

PRESENCE WOULD COME ON HER

NOW IN A MIGHTY WAY.

AND WE ASK FOR CLEANSING OF

HER NERVOUS SYSTEM.

WE ASK FOR RESTORATION OF

PROPER BALANCE BETWEEN HER

I IMMUNE SYSTEM AND HER

FLESH.

WE ASK THAT EVERYTHING WOULD

BE NORMAL THROUGHOUT HER

BODY.

WE SPEAK SPECIFICALLY TO THE

LUNGS AND TO THE HEART, AND

BE HEALED NOW.

NO MORE.

NO MORE.

NO MORE WASTING AWAY.

NO MORE WARING AGAINST

ITSELF.

NOW, LET THE PEACE OF GOD

FLOW INTO EVERY SINGLE CELL

AND BRING IT INTO PROPER

ALIGNMENT.

WE BIND THIS AFFIRMITY NOW

IN JESUS' NAME.

AND WE SAY YOU CAN AFFLICT

SUSAN NO MORE.

WE BIND YOU NOW.

YOU MUST LEAVE HER BODY.

THIS INFIRMITY BE GONE NOW.

IN JESUS' NAME.

Caller: AMEN.

Gordon: GOD BLESS YOU,

SUSAN.

A LOT OF PEOPLE PRAYING FOR

YOU RIGHT NOW.

LET US KNOW HOW IT GOES.

AND ENJOY THAT WALK WITH

YOUR DOG.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Caller: GOD BLESS YOU.

BYE-BYE.

Gordon: "LET LOVE BE

WITHOUT HYPOCRISY, ABHOR

WHAT IS EVIL, CLING TO

WHAT IS GOOD."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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