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700 Club Interactive - Inside the Occult - October 31, 2011

Join us at Interactive as hosts Gordon Robertson and Terry Meeuwsen tackle the inner-workings of the occult. Read Transcript


[APPLAUSE AND CHEERS]

Terry: HI, EVERYBODY,

WELCOME TO "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

TODAY'S THE FINAL DAY OF OUR

SERIOUS ON THE PARANORMAL,

AND WE CONCLUDE WITH A REAL

LIFE GHOST STORY AND HEAR

FROM A WOMAN WHO CAUGHT A

DEMON ON TAPE.

Gordon: BUT FIRST

INSIDE SARAH'S HOUSE THE

FLOORS CREEKED EVEN WHEN NO

ONE ELSE WAS AT HOME.

TARA DOESN'T JUST BELIEVE IN

HAUNTED HOUSES, SHE LIVED IN

ONE.

Reporter: AFTER

WATCHING A HORROR MOVIE AT

THE AGE OF 12, TARA LAWSEN

AND HER BROTHER TALKED THEIR

MOTHER INTO BUYING A OUIJA

BOARD.

WE JUST GOT A PARKER

BROTHER'S OUIJA BOARD AT A

TOY STORE.

WE DIDN'T REALIZE IT WAS

MORE THAN JUST A TOY.

Reporter: WHAT STARTED

OUT AS AN INNOCENT

FASCINATION TURNED SARAH'S

LIFE INTO A NIGHTMARE,

FILLED WITH OPPRESSION.

AN EVIL PRESENCE MADE ITSELF

KNOWN ALMOST IMMEDIATELY.

IT WAS MOVING HER HANDS

ACROSS THE BOARD AND MOVING

REALLY FAST.

AND WE WERE LOOKING UP AT

OUR DAD AND LAUGHING, LOOK,

WE'RE NOT DOING IT.

IT WAS SPELLING OUT THIS

PROFANITY, AND THEY WERE

LOOKING UP AT ME AND

LAUGHING.

IT SENT COLD CHILLS UP YOUR

SPINE, AND I SAID GIVE ME

THAT THING.

I'M GETTING RID OF IT.

Reporter: TARA'S DAD

HID THE BOARD, BUT IT WASN'T

LONG BEFORE TARA FOUND IT

AND SECRETLY BEGAN PLAYING

AGAIN.

TO ME, IT WAS JUST KIND

OF SOMETHING THAT WAS, LIKE,

A GAME.

SOMETHING THAT WAS JUST FUN

FOR ME.

I DIDN'T REALIZE THE EXTENT

OF THE DAMAGE IT COULD DO,

WHAT I WAS OPENING MYSELF UP

TO, THAT IT WAS SOMETHING

DEMONIC, IT WAS EVIL.

Reporter: THE MORE SHE

PLAYED, THE MORE FRIGHTENED

SHE BECAME.

I HAD IT UNDERNEATH MY

DRESSER.

I WOULD GET SO SCARED, I

COULDN'T SLEEP, KNOWING IT

WAS UNDER THERE.

SHE CAME BACK AND SAID

SHE COULDN'T SLEEP.

I FOUND THAT OUIJA BOARD AND

I CAN'T SLEEP.

WOULD YOU PLEASE GET RID OF

IT.

Reporter: TARA AND HER

FATHER BURNED THE OUIJA

BOARD, BUT A FEW YEARS LATER

SHE WAS DRAWN BACK TO IT

AGAIN.

THIS TIME SHE MADE HER OWN

OUIJA BOARD WITH HER

FRIEND.

THAT ONE WAS EVEN MORE

POWERFUL THAN THE ONE

BEFORE.

IT MOVED EVEN STRONGER.

IT WOULD SAY ALL KINDS OF

WILD STUFF AND IT WOULD

START SAYING ALL OF THIS

INAPPROPRIATE THINGS.

BEING TEENAGED GIRLS, WE

WOULD LAUGH AND FEELING

UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT WE WOULD

KEEP ON PLAYING.

IT WAS SPELLING SOMETHING SO

FAST, AND I WAS GOING SO

FAST, I COULDN'T TELL -- IT

WAS SPELLING MY NAME, AND IT

WAS SAYING, I'M GOING TO

KILL YOU, TARA.

AND WE SAID, OUR FATHER, WHO

ART IN HEAVEN, AND IT

STOPPED IMMEDIATELY.

I FELT SO ALONE.

I FELT LIKE I DIDN'T HAVE

ANYBODY.

IT WAS LIKE I WAS UNDER THIS

DARK CLOUD OF OPPRESSION.

I OPENED THAT DOOR TO EVIL

INTO MY LIFE.

IT BROUGHT IN DESTRUCTION.

IT SEEMED LIKE EVERYTHING

FROM THAT POINT FORWARD WAS

SPIRALLING DOWNWARD.

Reporter: STRANGE

THINGS OCCURRED AROUND HER.

OBJECTS MOVED THROUGH HER

ROOM AT NIGHT.

AND LOUD NOISES WERE ECHO

THROUGH THE HOUSE WHEN NO

ONE ELSE WAS HOME.

I HEARD THE STOMPING UP

AND DOWN THE HALL.

AND I THOUGHT, OH, MY DAD IS

HOME AND HE IS NOT TOO

HAPPY.

SO I ENDED UP LOOKING OUT MY

HALL, AND THERE WAS NOBODY

THERE.

Reporter: TARA

EVENTUALLY GOT MARRIED AND

MOVED OUT OF THE HOUSE.

BUT THE DARKNESS WENT WITH

HER.

I WOULD HEAR THIS LOUD,

EVIL CHANTING.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE

LANGUAGE.

IT DIDN'T REALLY SOUND LIKE

A HUMAN VOICE.

IT DIDN'T SOUND LIKE A HUMAN

VOICE COULD TALK IN THAT

TONE AND BE THAT LOUD.

Reporter: AND THEN LATE

ONE NIGHT --

HE WAS STILL UP AND I WAS

ASLEEP, AND HE LOOKED DOWN

THE HALL AND SAW THIS DARK

FIGURE IN THE HALL.

HE ENDED UP SAYING A PRAYER

TO HIMSELF AND IT

DISAPPEARED.

Reporter: TARA'S

MARRIAGE EVENTUALLY FELL

APART.

ONE NIGHT AS SHE SLEPT, SHE

HAD A VIVID DREAM THAT SHE

WAS VIOLENTLY MURDERED.

I CLOSED MY EYES AND I

SAID, GOD, PLEASE GET ME OUT

OF HERE.

PLEASE JUST SAVE ME.

IT JUST HIT ME THAT ONE DAY

I'M GOING TO DIE.

ONE DAY I'M GOING TO DIE,

AND I DON'T KNOW IF I'M

GOING TO GO TO HEAVEN OR

HEL.

HEL-- HELL.

I JUST STARTED PRAYING TO

GOD.

I CALLED OUT AND SAID,

PLEASE SHOW ME WHAT TO DO TO

BE SAFE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BUT

I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO GO TO

HELL.

Reporter: THE ANSWER TO

HER PRAYER CAME EARLYLY THE

NEXT DAY.

THE NEXT MORNING I HEARD

A KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND I

WENT TO THE DOOR, AND THERE

WAS A MAN STANDING THERE

WITH A BIBLE.

HE SAID I WANTED TO COME IN

AND READ SOME OF THE BIBLE

AND PRAY WITH YOU AND HE

READ JOHN 3: 16.

Reporter: TARA PRAYED

TO BECOME A CHRISTIAN.

HER LIFE WAS INSTANTLY

TRANSFORMED.

IT CHANGED EVERYTHING.

I WAS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING

THROUGH NEW EYES, NEW

PERSPECTIVE, THROUGH HIS

EYES.

I NEVER FELT THAT KIND OF

LOVE BEFORE IN MY LIFE.

IT WAS AMAZING HOW QUICKLY

THAT TRANSFORMATION TOOK

PLACE, WHEN HIS PRESENCE

CAME INTO MY LIFE.

IT WAS DARKNESS INTO LIGHT.

Reporter: TARA IS NOW A

PRAYER COUNSELLOR WITH "THE

700 CLUB."

THE OUIJA BOARD WAS JUST

AN OPEN DOOR FOR ALL OF THAT

THAT TOOK PLACE.

THE ONLY THING THAT STOPPED

IT WAS ME TURNING MY LIFE

OVER TO JESUS.

I FEEL LIKE HE IS ALWAYS

THERE PROTECTING ME AND I

DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY

ABOUT.

HE IS RIGHT THERE GUARDING

OVER ME, PROTECTING ME.

EVEN WHEN I'M ALONE, I DON'T

FEEL LIKE I'M ALONE BECAUSE

HE IS NEVER GOING TO LEAVE

ME OR FORSAKE ME.

HE MADE MY LIFE BEAUTIFUL.

HE CAN MAKE ANYBODY'S LIFE

BEAUTIFUL.

Gordon: AND HE CAN MAKE

YOUR LIFE BEAUTIFUL.

IS HE ABLE TO TAKE AWAY

THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE AND

REGRET?

YEAH.

IS HE ABLE TO CHANGE YOUR

LIFE?

YEAH.

IS HE ABLE TO SHED LIGHT

INTO YOUR DEPRESSION?

YEAH.

HE CAN DO IT ALL.

HE IS THE ANSWER TO ANY

HUMAN NEED, AND THE AMAZING

THING IS HE IS JUST A PRAYER

AWAY.

IF YOU HAVE DONE THINGS IN

YOUR LIFE THAT YOU REGRET

AND YOU WISH YOU HAVEN'T

DONE, AND YOU'RE WONDERING,

HOW CAN I GET FREE FROM THIS

STUFF?

MAYBE IT'S LIKE TARA -- YOU

EXPERIMENTED WITH THINGS

WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG AND YOU

HAD NO IDEA WHAT YOU WERE

GETTING INTO, AND YOU FIND

YOURSELF HAUNTED BY IT.

HE CAN SET YOU FREE.

WHOM THE SON SETS FREE IS

FREE INDEED.

IF YOU WANT TO BE FREE, IF

THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT, DO

THE SAME THING TARA PRAYED.

GOD GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN

SON THAT WHO SO EVER

BELIEVES IN HIM SHALL NOT

PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING

LIFE.

IF THAT'S YOU, LET'S PRAY.

DON'T LET ANOTHER MOMENT GO

BY.

LET'S LET TODAY BE BE THE

DAY WHEN YOU GET SET FROM

ANYTHING THAT IS OPPRESSING

YOU.

IF YOU WANT THIS, JUST BOW

YOUR HEAD AND PRAY A VERY

SIMPLE PRAYER.

I'LL LEAD, AND YOU JUST

FOLLOW.

AND LET GOD DO ALL OF THE

REST.

WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR OTHERS,

HE WILL DO FOR YOU.

PRAY WITH ME.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, SAY

IT OUT LOUD -- JESUS, I COME

TO YOU AND I WANT WHAT YOU

HAVE FOR ME.

JESUS, I NEED YOUR LOVE IN

MY LIFE.

I NEED YOUR FORGIVENESS.

I NEED TO BE SET FREE FROM

ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE

OPPRESSING ME.

SO, JESUS, COME INTO MY

LIFE.

LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE UPON

ME.

REVEAL YOURSELF TO ME.

I WANT TO KNOW YOU.

AND, JESUS, I ASK YOU RIGHT

NOW TO FORGIVE ME OF ALL OF

THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE

WRONG.

ALL OF THE TIMES THAT MISSED

THE MARK, I WANT YOU TO

FORGIVE ME.

AND, JESUS, I FORGIVE ANYONE

WHO HAS EVER HARMED ME.

AND I SET THEM FREE.

I WANT YOUR FORGIVENESS, SO

I FORGIVE OTHERS.

AND I DO IT RIGHT NOW, IN

JESUS' NAME.

SO PLEASE COME INTO MY

HEART, SET ME FREE, FOR I

ASK IT IN YOUR NAME.

FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO JUST

PRAYED, I PRAY A BAPTISM IN

YOUR LOVE.

AND I ASK FOR YOUR

PROTECTION, A HEDGE OF

PROTECTION TO BE PLACED

AROUND THEM NOW.

I BIND ANYTHING THAT WOULD

INTERFERE, ANYTHING THAT

WOULD OPPRESS, AND I BIND IT

NOW IN JESUS' NAME.

AND WE SAY NO MORE.

YOU HAVE NO MORE RIGHT

HERE.

THEY ARE REDEEMED BY THE

BLOOD OF THE LAMB.

SET THEM FREE, LORD GOD, FOR

I ASK IT IN JESUS' NAME.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, THE

BIBLE SAYS IF YOU'LL JUST

BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND

THEN CONFESS WER WITH YOUR

MOUTH, YOU SHALL BE SAVED.

WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS DO

JUST THAT.

I'VE MADE IT EASY FOR YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PICK

UP A PHONE AND CALL A

TOLL-FREE NUMBER.

1-888-777-1999.

JUST SAY, I PRAYED AND I

WANT SOMEONE TO KNOW THAT

JESUS JUST CAME INTO MY

HEART.

WE'LL BE GLAD TO PRAY FOR

YOU, AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOU

24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A

WEEK.

WE'RE JUST A PHONE CALL

AWAY.

IT WOULD BE OUR HONOR TO

PRAY FOR YOU.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING GOING

ON IN YOUR LIFE THAT YOU

WANT TO COME INTO AGREEMENT

WITH SOMEONE IN PRAYER, JUST

CALL US.

1-888-777-1999.

TERRY, OVER TO YOU.

Terry: UP NEXT, A GHOST

HUNTER GETS SPOOKED BY HER

OWN PREY.

HEAR WHAT SHE HEARD WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Terry: AFTER HER

HUSBAND HAD AN ON-LINE

AFFAIR, CHRISTINE MAGUIRE

DEVELOPED AN INTEREST OF HER

OWN, GHOST HUNTING.

BUT ONE NIGHT CHRISTINE

CAUGHT HER PREY ON TAPE AND

GOT THE SCARE OF HER LIFE.

Reporter: CHRISTINE

MAGUIRE WAS DEEPLY INVOLVED

IN THE OCCULT AND GHOST

HUNTING.

BUT ONE NIGHT SHE REALIZED

SHE WAS IN WAY OVER HER

HEAD.

I WENT IN THERE, AND IT

WAS A VERY ACTIVE NIGHT.

WE HAD SOME VERY STRANGE

THINGS HAPPEN.

I REALIZED THERE WAS A DEMON

IN THIS PLACE.

Reporter: EVEN THOUGH

SHE WAS A FULL-FLEDGE WITCH,

CHRISTINE STILL CONSIDERED

HERSELF A CHRISTIAN.

HER HUSBAND, TOM, EXPLAINS.

SHE HAD BLENDED

CHRISTIANITY WITH

WITCHCRAFT, WHICH WE HAVE

COME TO KNOW AS THE TERM

SYNCROTISM, WHICH IS TAKING

DIFFERENT RELIGIONS

TOGETHER.

I TOOK THE BIBLE IN

CERTAIN PARTS AND READ THE

REST OF IT TO BE WHAT I

WANTED TO BE BE, AND FOLDED

IT INTO WITCHCRAFT.

Reporter: CHRISTINE WAS

RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN HOME,

BUT WHEN SHE AND TOM STARTED

TO HAVE PROBLEMS IN THEIR

MARRIAGE, THEY STARTED TO

QUESTION THEIR FAITH.

THAT'S WHEN THINGS

STARTED TO FALL APART IN OUR

MARRIAGE AND IN OUR

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOT.

Reporter: AFTER TOM HAD

AN EMOTIONAL AFFAIR WITH A

WOMAN ON LINE, HE AND

CHRISTINE SEPARATED.

I FELT ABANDONED BY GOD.

I DIDN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER

MY OWN DESTINY, AND I WANTED

TO CONNECT TO A FEMININE

ENERGY.

I WANTED TO CONNECT WITH A

GODDESS.

I FELT THAT FEMININE

ENERGY.

I THINK THAT IS WHY I WAS SO

DRAWN TO IT, BECAUSE IT

APPEALED TO ME AS A WOMAN.

Reporter: OVER THE NEXT

FIVE YEARS, CHRISTINE DOVE

DEEPER INTO WITCHCRAFT.

BUT SHE COULDN'T SHAKE THE

FEELING THAT GOD WAS TRYING

TO GET HER ATTENTION.

THE WHOLLY SPIRIT, HE --

HOLY SPIRIT, HE JUST PRODDED

ME FROM DAY ONE.

I WOULD SAY HE WAS POKING ME

WITH A STICK.

YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HELP ME

TO COME TO MY SENSES.

BECAUSE I KNEW WHAT I WAS

DOING WAS WRONG, BUT I CHOSE

TO IGNORE THAT.

Reporter: SHE

EVENTUALLY STARTED GHOST

HUNTING.

BY THAT TIME I WAS A

MEDIUM AND COMMUNICATING

WITH SPIRITS ON MY OWN.

I WAS WATCHING THIS AND

GOING, I COULD DO THAT.

SO I GOT ON THE INTERNET AND

I SEARCHED GHOST-HUNTING

GROUPS IN MY AREA.

Reporter: AT THE SAME

TIME, TOM REDEDICATED HIS

LIFE TO GOD AND TRIED TO

RECONCILE WITH CHRISTINE.

I CALLED AND TOLD HER

THAT I THOUGHT WE OUGHT TO

GET BACK TOGETHER.

THAT GOD HAD A GREATER PLAN

THAN WHAT WE HAD.

WE WERE REUNITED, AND HE

KNEW I WAS A GOAFT GHOST

HUNTER AND A MEDIUM AND A

WITCH.

AND I DECIDED I WOULD GO

WITH THE FLOW AND BE THE

SUPPORT FOR HER.

Reporter: BUT CHRISTINE

REFUSED TO CHANGE.

BUT ONE NIGHT SHE REALIZED

HER ACTIONS COULD HAVE

SEVERE CONSEQUENCES.

I REALIZED THERE WAS A

DEMON IN THIS PLACE.

AT ONE POINT, I FELT LIKE I

SHOULD COMMAND THE SPIRIT TO

LEAVE IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

THERE WAS AN AUTHORITY THAT

I HADN'T USED IN YEARS.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS,

YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE.

YOU'RE UNINVITED.

THE INTERESTING THING WAS

WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING

HAPPEN AT THAT TIME.

BUT A FEW DAYS LATER, I GOT

AN E-MAIL WITH A FILE

ATTACHED TO IT THAT HAS AN

E.Z.P. ON IT, ELECTRONIC

VOICE PHENOMENON.

AND IT HAPPENED TO BE THE

CLIP WHEN I TOLD THE SPIRIT

IT HAD TO LEAVE IN JESUS'

NAME.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS,

YOU'RE GOING TO LEAVE.

YOU'RE UNINVITED.

AND NOW HE IS GOING TO GO

AND NOT COME BACK.

AND WHAT YOU HEAR IS WHAT

CAN ONLY BE DESCRIBED AS A

SCREAM.

IT WAS THE STRANGEST THING

I'VE EVER HEARD.

IT SCARED ME, TO BE QUITE

HONEST, BECAUSE IT SOUNDED

INHUMANE.

I HAD JUST HEARD A DEMON

REACT TO THE TRUE, HONEST

POWER OF JESUS' NAME.

I SENT THE FILE TO MY

HUSBAND.

BEING AN AUDIO ENGINEER,

I TOOK IT INTO MY LAPTOP,

AND I LOOKED TO SEE WHO

EDITED THIS.

AND IT'S NOT THERE.

AND SO THIS IS LIKE A REAL

CLIP OF AUDIO.

AND IT FREAKED HER OUT.

AND SHE STARTED REALIZING

THERE WAS POWER IN JESUS'

NAME.

AND THAT HE WASN'T JUST A

GOOD GUY SHE SHOULD LISTEN

TO, BUT HE WAS THE SON OF

GOD.

Reporter: CHRISTINE

KNEW THEN SHE COULD NEVER

COMBINE WITCHCRAFT AND

SUPERIO SPIRITUALISM WITH

CHRISTIANITY.

I REALIZED I HAD BEEN

FOOLED AND GIVEN MYSELF OVER

TO DEMONS.

IT WAS AT THAT POINT I GOT

DOWN ON MY KNEES AND POURED

MY HEART OUT TO JESUS AND I

RENOUNCED EVERYTHING I HAD

BEEN INVOLVED IN.

Reporter: TOM KNEW THAT

GOD HAD ANSWERED HIM.

I BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF

PRAYER.

I KNEW IF I JUST PRAYED, GOD

WOULD TURN THINGS AROUND.

THAT MEANT MORE TO ME

THAN ANYTHING, TO KNOW THAT

MY HUSBAND, HE JUST ACCEPTED

ME, WHERE I WAS AT AT THAT

TIME, AND LOVED ME ENOUGH TO

TRUST ME TO GOD'S HANDS.

Reporter: TODAY SHE

WARNS OTHERS ABOUT THE

DANGERS OF THE OCCULT.

YOU MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY

BE INVOLVED OR DABBLING OR

GHOST HUNTING, BUT YOU START

READING ABOUT IT, YOU START

WATCHING TELEVISION

PROGRAMS, YOU START WATCHING

MOVIES AND SEARCHING ON THE

INTERNET.

PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT

THING I WOULD SAY IS READ

THE BIBLE AND UNDERSTAND THE

POWER THAT IS BEHIND THESE

THINGS IN THE OCCULT BECAUSE

IT IS A VERY REAL POWER.

IT IS VERY REAL AND ITS ONLY

INTENT IS OUR SPIRITUAL

DESTRUCTION.

I'M SO THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL

FOR GOD PULLING ME OUT OF

THAT DECEPTION AND OUT OF

THAT LIFE OF HARASSMENT,

THAT I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE I

WAS LIVING.

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE THE

POWER OF JESUS.

THE POWER OF JESUS, IT STAYS

AND IT FORGIVES AND IT

LOVES.

JESUS IS EVERYTHING.

Terry: SO OFTEN WE LOOK

FOR POWER IN OUR LIVES IN

ONE WAY OR ANOTHER BECAUSE

WE FEEL A NEED TO CONTROL

THINGS.

THINGS ARE OUT OF CONTROL OR

NOT GOING IN THE DIRECTION

WE WANT THEM TO.

AND YET THERE IS NO ONE WHO

HAS MORE POWER THAN GOD

HIMSELF.

THERE IS NO OTHER NAME UNDER

HEAVEN BY WHICH MEN CAN BE

SAVED THAN THE NAME OF

JESUS.

ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THAT

WE TRY TO SUBSTITUTE INTO

THAT PLACE IS A

COUNTERFEIT.

WHY SETTLE FOR A COUNTERFEIT

WHEN YOU CAN HAVE THE REAL

THING.

WHEN YOU CAN HAVE THE KIND

OF POWER AND FORGIVENESS AND

LOVE THAT WAS TALKED ABOUT

IN THAT STORY.

YOU KNOW GOD CREATED YOU TO

HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH

HIM.

A TRUE RELATIONSHIP WITH

HIM, WHERE HE CAN

COMMUNICATE WITH YOU, AND

YOU CAN COMMUNICATE WITH

HIM.

WHERE THE POWER THAT IS HIS,

HE SAYS HE WILL ACTUALLY PUT

WITHIN US.

HE GIVES US EVERYTHING THAT

WE NEED TO LIVE THIS LIFE

FULLY, SUCCESSFULLY, WITH

FREEDOM, ABD DANDERLY. DANDERLY-- ABUNDA NTLY.

THAT'S WHAT JESUS SAID.

HE CAME SO WE COULD HAVE

LIFE ABUNDANTLY, NOT JUST IN

AN EMPTY FASHION OR JUST

TOLERATING LIFE.

BUT TO LIVE IT WITH FULLNESS

AND WITH JOY.

IF YOU'RE NOT EXPERIENCING

THAT, YOU NEED TO KNOW THE

ONE WHO CREATED YOU.

THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU WITH

PURPOSE IN MIND.

THE ONE WHO HAS LOVED YOU

WITH AN EVERLASTING LOVE.

THE ONE WHO HAS WAITED FOR

YOU AND WHO WILL NEVER TURN

YOU AWAY.

SO IT DIDN'T MATTER WHERE

YOU'VE GONE OR WHAT YOU'VE

DONE.

TODAY IS THE BEST DAY TO

COME BACK TO THE FATHER,

HEART OF GOD.

TODAY IS THE BEST DAY TO SAY

JESUS, I WANT YOU.

I WANT YOU TO COME INTO MY

MY LIFE.

I WANT YOU TO FORGIVE MY

SINS.

I WANT YOU TO BE THE LORD OF

MY LIFE.

I WANT TO KNOW YOU

PERSONALLY, IN THE DEEPEST

PART OF MY BEING.

I WANT THE KIND OF POWER

THAT YOU EXHIBITED WHEN YOU

WALKED ON THIS EARTH.

THE KIND OF POWER THAT WILL

WORK THROUGH ME.

GIVE IT ALL TO ME, GOD.

I WANT EVERYTHING.

FILL ME WITH YOUR HOLY

SPIRIT.

THAT THE PRAYER YOU YOU NEED

TO PRAY TODAY SO YOU CAN BE

SET FREE AND FULLY

FULFILLED.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRAY

WITH SOMEONE ABOUT A

SPECIFIC NEED IN YOUR LIFE,

CALL THE NUMBER YOU SEE ON

YOUR SCREEN,

1-888-777-1999.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE

STANDING BY WHO HAVE MADE

THAT SAME DECISION AND THAT

SAME COMMITMENT.

Gordon: COMING UP, A

SHAMAN WHO DABBLED IN THE

DARK ARTS FINDS THE LIGHT.

THAT'S UP NEXT.

Terry: AS A SHAMAN,

MERRIAM CONSULTED THE DEAD

FOR ALMOST EVERY DECISION

SHE MADE.

AND THE ONE TIME SHE DIDN'T

CHANGED HER LIFE FOREVER.

WHEN PEOPLE CAME TO ME

FOR CONSULTATION, I BURNED

CANDLES AND HAD ALL OF MY

HERBS AROUND.

THEN I WOULD SHIFT MY BONES

FOR ANSWERS.

I EARNED A LOT OF MONEY, BUT

I HAD TO COME TO THE OLDER

SHAMANS WHO TRAINED ME.

Reporter: LIKE OTHER

SHAMANS, MERRIAM DRANK A LOT

OF ALCOHOL.

IN TIME, SHE LOST HER WILL

TO LIVE.

I BECAME VERY MORBID.

SOMETHING INSIDE MADE ME

WANT TO BE ALONE.

NOBODY WANTED TO BE MY

FRIEND BECAUSE PEOPLE

THOUGHT I WOULD CURSE THEM.

I LIVED A MISERABLE LIFE.

Reporter: BUT RECENTLY

SHE HAD AN EXPERIENCE THAT

CHANGED HER LIFE.

I WENT OUT TO BUY BEER.

ON THE WAY, I HEARD ABOUT A

CHURCH THAT WAS GIVING AWAY

FREE VEGETABLES.

I COULDN'T RESIST FREE FOOD,

SO I WENT.

Reporter: THAT CHURCH

AND THEIR GREENHOUSE PROJECT

ARE SUPPORTED BY CBN.

THEY PREACHED THE WORD OF

GOD, AND THAT SPOKE TO MY

HEART.

AND I KNEW THEIR WORDS WERE

MEANT FOR ME.

WHEN I GOT HOME, I PUT DOWN

THE VEGETABLES, KNELT DOWN

AND GAVE MY HEART TO GOD.

Reporter: MARIAM GOT

RID OF HER TALISMAN AND

HERBS AND TURNED TO JESUS

CHRIST.

AT CHURCH, WHEN YOU TELL

PEOPLE YOUR PROBLEM, THEY

DON'T LAUGH AT YOU.

INSTEAD, THEY STAND WITH YOU

IN PRAYER.

THANK YOU, CBN.

THROUGH YOUR SUPPORT I FOUND

JESUS.

Terry: GOD IS OUR

FATHER, AND HE PUTS US IN

FAMILY.

WE ARE FAMILY TOGETHER.

YOU ALLOW US TO GO OUT TO

THE WORLD AND SHARE THE LOVE

OF JESUS CHRIST, THE

KNOWLEDGE OF WHO HE IS AND

HIS GREAT, REDEEMING LOVE

FOR US, WHEN YOU GIVE TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

IF YOU HAVEN'T YET BECOME A

"700 CLUB" MEMBER, THIS IS A

GREAT DAY TO DO THAT.

IT IS 65 CENTS A DAY, $20 A

MONTH.

IT MAKES YOU A PART OF AN

ARMY OF BELIEVERS WHO ARE

REACHING OUT TO THE WORLD

WITH THE LOVE OF JESUS.

GIVE RIGHT NOW, AND JOIN US

SO MORE COUNTRIES CAN BE

REACHED WITH THE KNOWLEDGE

OF HIS LOVE.

OUR NUMBER IS

1-888-777-1999.

OR YOU CAN GIVE YOUR GIFT BY

LOCKING ON TO CBN.COM.

GORDON?

Gordon: IT IS TIME TO

TAKE SPORT CHAT QUESTIONS.

LET'S GO OVER TO JOSEPH.

Reporter: WE HAVE

RACHEL WHO IS SAYING, "I

RECENTLY LOST MY JOB AND I

CAN BARELY PAY MY BILLS.

A FRIEND SAID I SHOULD GO TO

A PALM READER AND FIND OUT

WHAT I CAN DO.

IS THIS TRUE?"

Gordon: WHY WOULD YOU

GO TO A PALM READER WHEN YOU

CAN GO TO GOD.

IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT

DOES GOD WANT YOU TO DO,

THAT'S A WONDERFUL

QUESTION.

SO ASK HIM.

AND THEN YOU CAN SAY HOW HAS

HE ALREADY GIVEN ME INSIGHT

INTO THAT.

WHEN PEOPLE SAID, WHAT DOES

GOD WANT ME TO DO, ASK WHAT

DO I LIKE TO DO.

GOD WANTS TO GIVE YOU THE

DESIRES OF THE HEART.

AND TAKE IT BACK EVEN

FURTHER, BEFORE THE

FOUNDATION OF THE EARTH, HE

CREATED GOOD THINGS FOR YOU

TO WALK INTO.

WHO PUT THAT DESIRE THERE IN

THE FIRST PLACE?

THAT HEART'S DESIRE -- IF

THAT LINES UP WITH THE WORD

OF GOD, THEN, OKAY, YOU'VE

GOT A REAL GOOD INDICATION.

AND THEN I HAVE THIS SORT OF

FINAL TEST: IS IT GOOD FOR

GOD?

IS IT GOOD FOR OTHER PEOPLE?

AND FINALLY, IS IT GOOD FOR

YOU?

IF ALL OF THOSE LINE UP,

THEN DO THAT.

BUT YOU DON'T NEED A PALM

READER TO DO THAT.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT WHEN

YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO THE

THRONE OF GRACE.

I THINK WE HAVE A Facebook

QUESTION NOW.

JOSEPH?

YES.

FROM ANNA ON Facebook, SHE

IS SAYING "WHAT DOES IT MEAN

WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THE

DEAD WILL RISE?"

Gordon: THE DEAD WILL

RISE, THE GRAVES WILL OPEN.

THE GRAVES WERE OPENED WHEN

JESUS DIED.

THAT IS ONE OF THE MORE

WONDERFUL VERSES FOR ME.

THERE WAS AN OPENING AND A

RESURRECTION THAT ACTUALLY

HAPPENED THEN.

BUT WE ALL GLORIOUSLY AWAIT

HIS RETURN.

WHEN JESUS COMES BACK, THE

DEAD WILL RISE.

PSALM 2: "EEVERLASTING

PRESENCE OF GOD, AND TO,

UNFORTUNATELY, TO

JUDGMENT."

SO MAKE YOUR DECISION NOW

WHILE IT IS STILL DAY, AND

YOU CAN.

MAKE THIS DECISION NOW AND

SAY I BELIEVE.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET TO

HEAVEN?

SAY I BELIEVE JESUS IS THE

WAY.

HE HAS MADE THE WAY FOR ME.

I TRUST IN HIM.

THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE

FOR TODAY'S SHOW.

ROMANS: "WHAT THEN SHALL WE SAY

TO THESE THINGS?

IF GOD IS FOR US, WHO CAN BE

AGAINST US?"

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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