Reporter: WHIP YOUR
WALLET INTO SHAPE.
WE'LL TAKE YOU THROUGH
FINANCIAL BOOTCAMP, AND SHOW
YOU WHY WINNING THE WAR ON
DEBT REQUIRES DOLLARS AND
UNCOMMON SENSE.
PLUS A C.E.O. GOES
UNDERCOVER FOR HIS TOUGHEST
ASSIGNMENT, WORKING FOR HIS
OWN COMPANY.
THE GOOD --
IT'S MY PASSION.
Reporter: AND THE BAD.
ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."
*
Gordon: WELL, WELCOME
TO "THE 700 CLUB."
IT'S CALLED "THE STAND UP
FOR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
RALLY."
AMERICANS ARE PROTESTING DAY
AGAINST A KEY PART OF
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S HEALTH
PLAN.
Terry: IT SAYS THAT
RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS HAVE
TO PROVIDE COVERAGE FOR
CONTRACEPTION.
PAUL STRAND EXPLAINS WHY THE
PROTESTORS BELIEVE IT IS A
MAJOR THREAT TO RELIGIOUS
LIBERTY.
Reporter: IN MARCH,
140,000 PROTESTORS CAME
TOGETHER TO OPPOSE THE
MANDATE THAT OFFER
ABORTION-INDUCING DRUGS,
CONTRACEPTION, AND
STERILIZATION FOR THEIR
EMPLOYEES.
THIS IS THE MOST
DANGEROUS AND EGREGIOUS
ATTACK ON RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
IN THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED
STATES.
Reporter: IT IS
DISTURBING ENOUGH TO HOLD A
SECOND NATIONWIDE RALLY IN
SOME 155 COMMUNITIES THIS
TIME.
OUR LIBERTIES ARE UNDER
ATTACK RIGHT NOW, AND TAKING
THAT STAND IS ESSENTIAL.
Reporter: ROB SHANK IS
WORKING AT THE HIGHEST
LEVELS TO FIGHT THESE
MANDATES.
HE JUST MET WITH THE POPE'S
PERSONAL AMBASSADOR TO THE
U.S.
WE TALKED AT GREAT LENGTH
ABOUT THE NECESSARY ALLIANCE
BETWEEN EVANGELICALS AND
CATHOLICS, AND I HAVE NEVER
SENSED A STRONGER BOND THAN
OVER THIS ISSUE.
ROW IT WAS
Reporter: JAMES MADISON
INTRODUCED THE BILL OF
RIGHTS, WHICH BEGINS WITH
THE GUARANTEE OF RELIGIOUS
LIBERTY.
WE HAVE A CONCEPT OF
PROPER SEPARATION OF CHURCH
AND STATE.
IN THIS INSTANCE, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES HAS SAID, I WILL TELL
YOU HOW YOU WILL PRACTICE
YOUR RELIGION.
THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS.
IT IS INSANITY WHAT THE
ADMINISTRATION IS PUSHING ON
THE PEOPLE.
IT WOULD BE THE SAME AS
TELLING US IN OUR
INSTITUTIONS, WE COULD NOT
PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS OR
WE COULD NOT READ THE
BIBLE.
THIS IS AN EGREGIOUS
VIOLATION OF THE FIRST
AMENDMENT.
Reporter: MAHONEY SAYS
SOME OF THE TOP RELIGIOUS
LEADERS ARE WILLING TO PAY A
STEEP PRICE.
THE PASTOR SAID I WOULD
GO TO JAIL BEFORE I WOULD
COMPLY WITH AN ORDER LIKE
THIS.
Reporter: LILA ORDER
SEES A THREAT FROM LEGALIZED
ABORTION TO THIS PRESENT
THREAT AGAINST RELIGIOUS
LIBERTY.
AMERICANS, IN INCREASING
NUMBERS ARE AGREEING THAT
PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE
BORN.
Reporter: SINCE THE
1973 SUPREME COURT ROE VS.
WADE, AMERICA HAS DECLARED
ABORTION LEGAL.
IF WE ALLOW THAT
FUNDAMENTAL ATTACK ON A
CHILD, WE SHOULD NOT BE SO
SURPRISED WHEN THEY COME FOR
OUR RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.
Reporter: IN OTHER
WORDS, THESE PROTESTORS SAY
IF THE NATION DOESN'T
RESPECT YOUR LIFE, IT WON'T
PRE-- RESPECT YOUR LIBERTY.
BUT AS THIS RALLY SHOWS,
AMERICANS WILL STAND UP AND
FIGHT THAT LIBERTY.
Gordon: IT IS AMAZING
HOW PEOPLE DON'T GET THIS.
AFTERNOON NANCY PELOSI WAS
ASKED IN A NOON CONFERENCE
WHY 43 CATHOLIC
ORGANIZATIONS HAD FILED
SUIT.
DIDN'T SHE UNDERSTAND THAT
THIS RULING BY THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION WAS AGAINST
CATHOLIC DOCTRINE?
IT WAS FASCINATING HER
RESPONSE, THAT THESE
ORGANIZATIONS DIDN'T SPEAK
FOR THE CHURCH.
THAT THIS WASN'T SOMETHING
THAT WAS EX-CATHEDRA.
LEE WEBB HAS THE REST OF OUR
TOP STORIES.
Reporter: GORDON,
CANADIAN LAWMAKERS HAVE
PASSED A BILL THAT FORCES
CATHOLIC SCHOOLS TO VIOLATE
THEIR BELIEFS ABOUT
HOMOSEXUALITY.
THE NEW LAW SAYS ALL
SCHOOLS, EVEN RELIGIOUS
ONES, MUST LET GAY STUDENTS
FORM CLUBS ON CAMPUS.
THEY HAD OBJECTED TO THIS.
THEY ARGUE THEY SHOULD NOT
BE FORCED TO ACCEPT STUDENT
CLUBS THAT GO AGAINST THEIR
TEACHINGS.
HE SAYS THOSE ARE VALUES
THAT TRANSCEND ANY ONE
FAITH.
REPUBLICANS ARE CALLING FOR
A SPECIAL COUNCIL TO
INVESTIGATE RECENT LEAKS TO
THE MEDIA ABOUT IMPORTANT
NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES.
THE LEAKS INCLUDE DETAILS OF
A REPEAT COVERT CYBER-ATTACK
ON IRAN.
THEY ACCUSED THEM OF
LEAKING.
THE TOP FOUR LEADERS OF
CONGRESS' INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEES CONDEMNED THE
LEAKS.
THOSE STORIES CONTAIN
SECRETS THEY SAY COMPROMISE
AMERICA'S NATIONAL SECURITY,
AS WELL AS THAT OF OUR
ALLIES.
THEY PLAN TO DIRECT
LEGISLATION THAT PUNISHES
THOSE WHO CAN'T EPSECRETS.
PIKE
TO HAVE ALL FOUR OF THEM
COME FORWARD AND TALK ABOUT
THE SEVERITY OF THESE LEAKS,
I HOPE IT SENDS A MESSAGE OF
HOW DANGEROUS THIS BECOMES.
WHEN THEY PEOPLE SAY THEY
DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH THE
UNITED STATES BECAUSE THEY
CAN'T TRUST US TO KEEP A
SECRET, THAT'S SERIOUS.
Reporter: I SPOKE WITH
CLIFF MAY, PRESIDENT OF THE
FOUNDATION FOR THE
DEMOCRACIES, AND I ASKED HIM
IF HE THOUGHT THESE LEAKS
HAD COME STRAIGHT FROM THE
WHITE HOUSE.
IT IS CERTAINLY A
POSSIBILITY.
DOES THAT MEAN PEOPLE WERE
NECESSARILY THINKING ABOUT
RELEASING CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION.
NO.
BUT THEY SAID THE PRESIDENT
IS NOT GETTING CREDIT FOR
ALL OF THE THINGS HE IS
DOING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN
CYBER-WARFARE, LET'S GET
SOME STORIES OUT THERE, IT
IS VERY POSSIBLE THAT
SOMEBODY IS GOING TO SAY,
LET ME GO TO A REPORTER, AND
LET ME TALK.
AND I'VE BEEN A REPORTER,
AND YOU CAN SOMETIMES GET
MORE INFORMATION OUT OF
SOMEBODY THAN SOMEBODY MEANS
TO REVEAL.
Reporter: RICK SANTORUM
MAY BE OUT OF THE
PRESIDENTIAL RACE, BUT HE IS
STILL VERY MUCH INVOLVED.
HE HAS STARTED A NEW
ORGANIZATION CALLED "PATRIOT
VOICES."
HE PERFORMED WELL IN THE
G.O.P. BY COMBINING
PROFAMILY VALUES WITH A
CONSTITUTIONAL MESSAGE.
AND HE TOLD OUR DAVID BRODY
THAT WILL BE THE FOCUS OF
HIS NEW GROUP.
PIES IT IS WHERE --
IT IS WHERE CONVERSATION
CAN GO BECAUSE THEY DO BLEND
TOGETHER.
I USED TO SAY IT WAS A
THREE--LEGGED STOOL, BUT I
NOW CALL IT A FOUR--LEGGED
SCHOOL.
Reporter: HIS GOAL IS
TO GET ONE MILLION PEOPLE TO
JOIN, AND START INFLUENCING
POLITICAL RACES, AS WELL AS
INSTALLATION.
YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE
LATEST BY GOING TO
CBN.COM.
A LEADING MUSLIM CLERIC SAYS
JERUSALEM WILL BE THE NEW
CAPITAL OF EGYPT IF THE
MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD CANDIDATE
WINS EGYPT'S PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTION.
THE CLERIC TOLD A CAMPAIGN
RALLY THAT EGYPT'S CAPITAL
WOULD NOT BE CHRISTIAN OR
MECCA OR MEDINA, BUT
JERUSALEM.
THEY SAY THEY WILL PRAY IN
THE STREETS OF JERUSALEM OR
BE MARTYRED THERE.
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
CANDIDATE IS MOHAMMED MERCY,
AND HE IS FACING AKMED
SAHIF.
Gordon: THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD, THEY ARE THE
ONES WHO ASSASSINATED ANWAR
SADAT, AND THEY DID SO
BECAUSE HE WENT TO THE
CANESSA, AND HE RECOGNIZED
ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST.
THAT WHOLE PEACE ACCORD THAT
HE CRAFTED, THE CAMP DAVID
PEACE ACCORDS BACK IN 1978,
IT COST HIM HIS LIFE.
AND NOW THAT SAME GROUP IS
POISED TO TAKE CONTROL OF
EGYPT AND ITS MILITARY.
AND THE DISCONNECT HERE IS
THE HEAD OF OUR FOREIGN
INTELLIGENCE FOR THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION, THINKS THAT
THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS
NOT A RELIGIOUS
ORGANIZATION, THAT IT IS
JUST A POLITICAL
ORGANIZATION.
AND NOTHING COULD BE FURTHER
FROM THE TRUTH.
IF THEY WIN, SAY GOOD-BYE TO
THE ARAB SPRING.
WE'LL HAVE A NEW THEA
THEACRISY.
Terry: IF YOU WANT
FINANCIAL PEACE, YOU MUST
PREPARE FOR WAR.
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Reporter: MONDAY...WITH
NO MOM OR DAD AROUND --
I REMEMBER SO MANY NIGHTS
NOT HAVING ANY FOOD TO EAT,
NOT HAVING ANYONE TO SAY I
LOVE YOU.
Reporter: ONLY AN
ABUSIVE UNCLE.
HE TOLD ME IF I EVER TOLD
ANYONE, MY MOM WOULDN'T LOVE
ME ANYMORE.
HE JUST LOOKED AT ME AND HE
SAID, IT WAS YOUR FAULT.
Reporter: ONE TEEN GOES
LOOKING FOR LOVE IN ALL OF
THE WRONG PLACES.
ON MONDAY'S "700 CLUB."
Gordon: MANY AMERICANS
ARE FIGHTING A LOSING BATTLE
AGAINST DEBT.
ONE FINANCIAL PLANNER SAYS
THERE IS A PATH TO VICTORY,
BUT IT JUST MEANS GOING
THROUGH THE BASIC TRAINING
YOU NEED TO WIN YOUR
FINANCIAL FIGHT.
Reporter: BASIC
TRAINING, WHERE ORDINARY
AMERICANS ARE TRANSFORMED
INTO SOLDIERS, READY FOR
BATTLE.
DRILLS TEACH IMMEDIATE AND
CORRECT RESPONSES TO SOME OF
THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE OR
UNNATURAL SITUATIONS.
IT WORKS ON THE BATTLEFIELD,
AND FINANCIAL PLANNER, STEVE
REPACK, SAYS IT CAN WORK IN
THE BATTLE AGAINST DEBT AS
WELL.
HE SHOULD KNOW.
HE SERVED 12 YEARS IN THE
ARMY, AND THEN RETIRED WITH
MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF CREDIT
CARD DEBT.
THAT DEBT FORCED HIM TO USE
HIS MILITARY KNOW-HOW TO
FIGHT HIS WAY OUT.
NOW HE SHARES HIS SECRETS TO
FINANCIAL SUCCESS IN HIS NEW
BOOK "DOLLARS AND UNCOMMON
SENSE," TRAINING FOR YOUR
FINANCIAL MONEY.
REPACK ARGUES THAT TOO OFTEN
MONEY PROBLEMS RESULT WHEN
PEOPLE RELY TIEWS TOO MUCH
ON COMMON SENSE, AND STEADY
THEY SHOULD APPLY SOME
UNCOMMON SENSE.
Gordon: ST -- STEVE
REPACK JOINS US NOW.
WELCOME TO "700 CLUB."
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
HAVING ME ON.
I APPRECIATE IT.
Gordon: YOU HAD 12
YEARS AND THEN AT THE END OF
THAT, YOU HAD OVER $30,000
IN DEBT.
WHY?
WHAT ARE THE FUNDAMENTALS
HERE?
WE KNOW WE LIKE TO BUY
THINGS.
IT MAKES US FEEL GOOD.
AND SERVING IN THE MILITARY,
YOU'RE UNDER A TREMENDOUS
AMOUNT OF STRESS.
ONE WAY TO COPE WITH THAT
STRESS IS TO BUY THINGS.
AND THAT'S NOT JUST FOR
MILITARY, BUT THAT'S FOR
MOST PEOPLE.
IT IS A COPING MECHANISM.
THEY BUY THINGS.
IT MAKES THEM FEEL GOOD.
AND THEY TURN AROUND, AND
THAT GOOD FEELING GOES AWAY,
AND THEY GO BACK OUT
CHARGING AGAIN, AND ALL OF A
SUDDEN YOU HAVE ALL OF THIS
DEBT.
Gordon: LET'S TALK
ABOUT YOUR BOOK, "DOLLARS
AND ON COMMON SENSE," I LOVE
THE TITLE.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT
UNCOMMON SENSE.
IT IS WHEN YOU THINK AND
DO DIFFERENT THINGS.
MOST PEOPLE ARE LIVING
PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, AND
THEY HAVE DEBT, AND THEY
HAVE NOTHING IN SAVINGS.
IF YOU WANT YOUR FINANCES TO
BE BETTER, ALL YOU HAVE TO
DO IS START USING A LITTLE
BIT OF UNCOMMON SENSE, START
DOING THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
Gordon: TELL US ABOUT
THE 10, 10, 80 RULE?
IT IS ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL
PRINCIPLES THAT ANYBODY CAN
USE, AND IT WILL LEAD TO
SUCCESS IN YOUR FINANCES.
EXACTLY.
THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY RULES
THAT ACTUALLY APPLY TO
EVERYBODY.
BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER IF
YOU'RE MAKING $100 A WEEK OR
$100,000 A YEAR.
THE 10-10-80 RULE WORKS LIKE
THIS: I GIVE AWAY THE FIRST
10%, I SAVE THE NEXT 10%,
AND THEN I LIVE ON THE
RESTS.
MOST PEOPLE SPEND
EVERYTHING, AND WHAT'S LEFT,
THEY SAVE OR GIVE.
Gordon: HOW DO YOU GET
THE 10% WORKING FOR YOU.
I RECOMMEND THAT YOU SIT
DOWN WITH A CERTIFIED
FINANCIAL PLANNER AND HAVE
THEM PUT TOGETHER A PLAN
THAT SUITS YOUR NEEDS.
MOST PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT
WAYS THEY THINK ABOUT
MONEY.
THEY WORRY ABOUT RISK AND
EXPENSES.
UT BIG THING IS IF YOU HAVE
MONEY, PAY DOWN THAT CREDIT
CARD.
THEY ARE CHARGING YOU 16%,
20% INTEREST.
IT'S BETTER TO EARN MAYBE 1%
ON YOUR MONEY THAN SIT THERE
AND PAY 16% TO SOMEBODY
ELSE.
Gordon: YOU ARE A
CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER,
SO WE ARE SITTING DOWN.
WHAT ARE THE TRAITS THAT
YOUR CLIENTS -- THE ONES
THAT REALLY MAKE IT, WHAT
TRAITS DO THEY HAVE THAT
SORT OF SET THEM APART?
SOMETHING I LEARNED --
HERE I LEFT THE ARMY WITH
$32,000 WORTH OF CREDIT CARD
DEBT.
IT WAS PAINFUL.
I LIVED PAYCHECK TO
PAYCHECK.
AND HERE I AM WORRYING NIGHT
AFTER NIGHT, HOW AM I GOING
TO GET THIS DEBT PAID OFF.
I BASICALLY SAID, I'M GOING
TO LIVE WITH IT.
IF IT GETS PAID OFF, IT GETS
PAID OFF.
ONCE I SAT DOWN WITH PEOPLE
WHO HAD MONEY, THEY ALL HAD
THESE SIX COMMON TRAITS.
IT WASN'T BECAUSE THEY WERE
DOCTORS OR ATTORNEYS, BUT
NUMBER ONE, THEY SPENT LESS
MONEY THAN WHAT THEY MADE.
THE SECOND THING IS THEY
WILL LITTLE OR NO DEBT.
AND THE THIRD THING IS THEY
SAVED.
THEY HAD LONG-TERM PLANS FOR
THEIR MONEY.
THEY DIDN'T ALLOW THEIR
EMOTIONS TO AFFECT THEIR
FINANCIAL DECISIONS.
AND THE LAST ONE, THEY
STARTED SAVING EARLY IN
THEIR CAREER.
IF IT IS LATER IN YOUR
CAREER, IT IS NEVER TOO
LATE.
Gordon: YOU MAY WANT TO
ADOPT IT TO 10-20 --
INCREASE THE AMOUNT YOU
SAVE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE
STOCK MARKET RIGHT NOW.
YESTERDAY IT ROARED OFF, AND
SPAIN HAD A GOOD AUCTION OF
ITS BONDS, AND THEN THE FED
CHIEF COMES IN, BERNANKE,
AND HE STARTS TALKING ABOUT
THE FISCAL CLIFF AND AN
OVERALL SLOWDOWN IN THE U.S.
ECONOMY.
WOULD YOU BE PUTTING YOUR
MONEY TODAY IN STOCKS?
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
WHAT DOES MY BOOK SAY?
I DO NOT ALLOW MY EMOTIONS
TO AFFECT MY FINANCIAL
DECISIONS.
SO THE STOCK MARKET IS VERY,
VERY EMOTIONAL.
SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE
DECISIONS BASED ON THE
DIRECTION OF THE STOCK
MARKET, MOST LIKELY YOU'RE
GOING TO FAIL.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU PUT A
PLAN TOGETHER, AND YOU
FOLLOW THAT PLAN.
IF YOU'RE ARRIVING IN THE
AIRPLANE AND YOU EXPERIENCE
SOME TURBULENCE, YOU DON'T
JUMP OFF THE AIRPLANE.
YOU RIDE IT OUT.
Gordon: SO YOU WOULD
TELL PEOPLE FASTEN YOUR SEAT
BELT BECAUSE YOU'LL GET TO
THE DESTINATION?
EXACTLY.
Gordon: FOR SOMEBODY,
SAY IN THEIR 50s, WHAT
WOULD BE A MIX YOU WOULD
RECOMMEND BETWEEN
INVESTMENTS?
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THAT IS DETERMINED ON YOUR
PERSONAL SITUATION.
I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD HAVE A
STRONG FOUNDATION, WHICH
THAT IS BUILT ON CASH.
YOUR FIRST GOAL IS THAT,
HEY, I NEED TO HAVE TWO
YEARS OF LIVING EXPENSES
BUILT UP IN SAVINGS.
THAT SHOULD BE YOUR PRIMARY
GOAL BECAUSE IF SOMETHING
BAD HAPPENS, IF THE STOCK
MARKET IS DOWN, YOU DON'T
WANT TO BE PULLING MONEY OUT
OF THE STOCK MARKET AT THAT
TIME.
SO YOU WANT TO REALLY BUILD
UP THE SAFE, SHORT-TERM,
LIQUID THINGS THAT WILL
WEATHER THE STORM FOR YOU.
Gordon: SO YOU'RE
RECOMMENDING A LARGE
ALLOCATION OF CASH?
THAT'S DETERMINED FOR
EACH INDIVIDUAL.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING THAT
ONE ADVICE FITS ALL.
THAT'S WHY I SAY SIT DOWN
WITH A CERTIFIED FINANCIAL
PLANNER TO TALK ABOUT YOUR
UNIQUE SITUATION.
THOSE GENERICS, YOU SHOULD
HAVE IT THIS WAY OR THAT
WAY, THERE ARE A LOT OF
OTHER THINGS YOU HAVE TO
TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
CONCENTRATE ON THE BASICS.
THAT'S WHY IT IS CALLED
BASIC TRAINING FOR YOUR
MONEY.
TELL ME YOU'RE SPENDING LESS
MONEY THAN YOUR SAVING, AND
THAT YOU HAVE LITTLE OR NO
DEBT, AND THAT YOU'RE
SAVING.
Gordon: GOOD ADVICE,
THE BOOK IS CALLED "DOLLARS
AND UNCON SENSE UNCOMMON
SENSE, BASIC TRAINING FOR
YOUR MONEY."
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
Terry: ONE TOP C.E.O.
TELLS THE ONE THING YOU NEED
TO GET AHEAD IN THE BUSINESS
WORLD.
BUT FIRST, A COLLEGE STUDENT
IS HOOKED ON DRUGS, AND HER
MOM AND DAD HAD SOME CLUE.
I HAVE NO IDEA WHY THEY
HAD NO CLUE AS TO WHAT IS
GOING ON.
Terry: BUT HER PARENTS
WEREN'T GOING TO BE CLUELESS
FOR LONG.
WATCH WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY
FOUND OUT.
THAT'S NEXT.
Terry: WHEN WHITNEY
LONG STARTED DOING DRUGS,
SHE DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE SHE
WANTED TO GET HIGH.
SHE DID IT BECAUSE SHE
WANTED TO EASE HER PAIN.
SOON THOSE DRUGS BECAME HER
RELIEF, UNTIL HER PARENTS
PAID A VISIT TO HER DORM
ROOM AND THEY LEARNED THAT
THEIR DAUGHTER WAS AN
ADDICT.
I WAS RAISED IN A
CHRISTIAN HOME WHERE I WENT
TO CHURCH EVERY SUNDAY AND
EVERY WEDNESDAY, BUT WHEN I
WAS 13 YEARS OLD, I WAS
BABY-SITTING, AND A FRIEND
OF MINE ASKED ME IF HE COULD
COME OVER AND SEE ME AND
HANG OUT.
I SAID YES.
THIS GUY CAME OVER AND HE
ENDED UP RAPING ME WHEN I
WAS 13 YEARS OLD.
I FELT SUCH SHAME AND SUCH
JUST DISGUST, AND I FELT
LIKE EVERYTHING HAD BEEN
STRIPPED FROM ME, THAT I
DIDN'T THINK THAT THE LORD
COULD POSSIBLY WANT ME.
IT JUST WENT DOWNHILL.
I STARTED DOING DRUGS EVERY
CHANCE I COULD GET TO JUST
NUMB THE FEELING OF PAIN
THAT I HAD, FROM AGES 14 TO
19.
I WAS EXTREMELY ADDICTED TO
DOING DRUGS AND DRINKING,
AND I WOULD GIVE MYSELF TO
GUYS CONTINUOUSLY, JUST
LOOKING FOR SOME TYPE OF
FULFILLMENT, SOME TYPE OF
LOVE THAT I WAS SEARCHING
FOR.
I ENDED UP EXTREMELY
ADDICTED TO COCAINE AND
HEROIN, AND WAS SHOOTING UP
EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES A
DAY.
MY PARENTS HAD ENROLLED ME
IN COLLEGE, AND IT WASN'T BY
CHOICE.
THEY WERE LIKE, YOU REALLY
NEED TO GO.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY HAD NO
CLUE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I THINK THEY WERE JUST
LIVING IN THEIR OWN LITTLE
WORLD, LIA THEIR OWN LITTLE
BUBBLE THAT WHITNEY IS
OKAY.
THE ADDICTION WAS COMPLETELY
TAKING OVER ME.
EVERY LITTLE MONEY MY
PARENTS WOULD GIVE ME, I
WOULD SPEND ON DRUGS.
I SPENT $2800 IN TWO WEEKS
ON HEROIN AND COCAINE.
MY PARENTS CAME TO VISIT ME,
AND MY DAD IMMEDIATELY
KNOW.
HE SAID, YOU LOOK LIKE A
JUNKY.
YOU ARE A JUNKY.
HE BROKE DOWN AND STARTED
CRYING, AND WE TALKED ALL
NIGHT LONG.
AND THEN HE TOOK ME HOME.
AND HE TOOK ME TO REHAB, AND
I WAS THERE FOR FIVE DAYS,
AND ALL THEY DID WAS DETOX
MY SYSTEM AND PUT ME BACK
OUT AND SAY, COME TO THESE
12 STEP MEETINGS, AND
IMMEDIATELY AFTER I HAD
GOTTEN OUT, I GOT HIGH.
MY MOM HAD INVITED ME TO GO
TO A CONFERENCE.
I WENT AND BOUGHT ABOUT $500
WORTH OF DRUGS, FROM MONEY I
HAD STOLEN, AND TOOK IT ON
THE AIRPLANE WITH ME, AND
GOT HIGH ON THE WAY THERE.
AND SHOT UP ONCE I WAS
THERE.
AND AT THIS CONFERENCE, MY
MOM AND KAREN WHEATON, THEY
WERE PREVIOUSLY FRIENDS, AND
THEY HOOKED UP AGAIN AND
THEY WERE TALKING.
SHE SAID I REALLY THINK THAT
YOU'RE DAUGHTER IS THE
REASON THAT WE WERE HERE
THIS WEEK.
SO THROUGHOUT THE WEEK THEY
STARTED PRAYING FOR ME.
I DIDN'T KNOW ALL OF THIS
UNTIL AFTERWARDS, BUT THEY
WERE MINISTERING TO ME
THROUGH THEIR PRAYERS.
I THINK IT WAS A WEDNESDAY,
YEAH, IT WAS A WEDNESDAY,
AND MY MOM AND I HAD GOTTEN
IN A HUGE FIGHT.
AND I FELL ASLEEP ON THE
COUCH IN THAT HOTEL ROOM.
AND MY MOM JUST BEGAN
PRAYING THAT NIGHT -- SHE
STAYED UP UNTIL 4:00 IN THE
MORNING, JUST PRAYING AND
INTERCEDING OVER ME.
AND THE NEXT MORNING, I WOKE
UP, AND I WAS COMPLETELY
DELIVERED AND SET FREE, AND
I HAD NO CRAVING FOR THE
DRUGS ANYMORE.
I DIDN'T GO THROUGH ONE
WITHDRAWAL.
THE LORD DELIVERED ME, AND
THEN HE TOOK MY HAND AND
JERKED ME INTO A DEEP
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM.
I MEAN, I JUST FELT LIKE I
HAD TO BE SUBMERSEED.
IF I HUNDRED DOLLAR HAD BEEN
SUBMERSED, I PROBABLY WOULD
HAVE GOTTEN BACK TO THE
DRUGS.
IT STARTED THE DEEP PROCESS
OF HEALING.
I JUST GOT MARRIED THIS
YEAR, ON MARCH 13th, TO A
MAN WHO WAS A VIRGIN, AND
THAT WAS JUST A HUGE
TESTIMONY IN ITSELF OF THE
RESTORATION THAT GOD
BRINGS.
IT WAS A HUGE DEAL TO ME
BECAUSE OF MY PAST.
IT WAS GOD'S LOVE AND HOW HE
DOESN'T HOLD US CAPTIVE TO
THE PAST.
AND HE DOESN'T REMEMBER OUR
SINS, AND HE FORGIVES US.
IF YOU ARE DEALING WITH
SHAME AND PAIN FROM THE
ADDICTIONS AND THE LOSS OF A
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD OR
NEVER HAVING A RELATIONSHIP
WITH GOD, I WOULD SAY THAT
THERE IS HOPE AND THAT THERE
IS FREEDOM.
AND TO NEVER BELIEVE THE
LIFE THE ENEMY THAT YOUR
LIFE IS WITHOUT PURPOSE,
BECAUSE THERE IS A PURPOSE
FOR EVERY PERSON ON THE FACE
OF THIS EARTH.
AND THAT GOD HAD A DESTINY
WHEN SHE CREATED EVERY ONE
OF US.
Terry: GOD NOT ONLY
DOESN'T HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE
FOR OUR PAST, HE SAYS THAT
HE COMES TO SET US FREE, TO
GIVE US A NEW BEGINNING.
AND THE ONE THAT THE SON
SETS FREE, THE WORD SAYS IS
FREE INDEED.
YOU KNOW, WHEN SOMETHING
HAPPENS TO US THAT IS
ABUSIVE, INVASIVE TO OUR OWN
PERSONHOOD, THEN OFTEN THERE
ARE WOUNDS AND SCARS, THERE
IS PAIN, THERE IS SHAME, AND
WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN'T COME
OUT FROM UNDER THAT.
AND THEN WE DIG A HOLE THAT
IS DEEPER THAN THE HOLE THAT
GOT IT INTO US ORIGINALLY.
AND WHEN WE STRIVE TO GET
OURSELVES OUT OF THAT PLACE,
WE JUST MAKE A BIGGER MESS.
JESUS WANTS US TO COME TO
HIM, AND HE SAYS ANYONE WHO
COMES TO HIM WILL RECEIVE --
WILL RECEIVE -- ALL YOU HAVE
TO DO IS CALL UPON THE NAME
OF THE LORD.
WHY DOES HE SAY THAT?
BECAUSE HE WANTS US TO
CHOOSE HIM THE SAME WAY THAT
HE HAS CHOSEN US.
HE DOESN'T WANT ROBOTS FOR
HIS KIDS.
HE WANTS CHILDREN WHO LOVE
HIM, WHO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH
HE LOVES THEM, WHO
UNDERSTAND THE PRICE HE PAID
TO SET US FREE, AND WHO WANT
HIM THE SAME WAY THAT HE
WANTS US.
YOU YOU SEE, THAT'S WHAT
GIVES US THE FREEDOM TO BE
BE HIS KIDS AND TO WALK WITH
HIM AND TO KNOW HIM, AND TO
RECEIVE WHAT HE WANTS TO
GIVE US.
IT IS NOT BEING SHOVED AT
US.
IT IS BEING OFFERED TO US.
AND TODAY GOD IS OFFERING
THAT TO YOU, RIGHT IN THE
MIDST OF WHERE YOU ARE.
RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF YOUR
PAIN.
RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF THE
MESS YOU MADE.
I DID THE SAME THING.
DID THE SAME THING.
THOUGHT I WAS MAKING IT
BETTER AND ONLY MADE IT
WORSE.
BUT THEN JESUS -- AND THAT'S
THE BOTTOM LINE, ISN'T IT,
BUT THEN JESUS CAME.
HE CAME TO ME.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT
THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO
HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIM.
I HAD HEAD KNOWLEDGE BUT NO
RELATIONSHIP, AND MAYBE
THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE AT RIGHT
NOW, TOO.
YOU KNOW, GOING TO CHURCH
DOESN'T MAKE YOU A
CHRISTIAN.
A CHRISTIAN IS SOMEONE WHO
KNOWS JESUS AND DECIDES TO
GIVE HIM THEIR LIFE AND
FOLLOW AFTER HIM, TO BE A
DISCIPLE OF HIS.
IF YOU DON'T KNOW JESUS
TODAY, YOU CAN.
YOU CAN.
HE WANTS TO BE KNOWN.
HE WANTS YOU TO BELONG TO
HIM, AND HE WANTS TO GIVE
ALL OF HIMSELF TO YOU.
THAT'S MORE THAN YOU COULD
ASK OR HOPE FOR.
IT MEANS FORGIVENESS FOR THE
PAST, HOPE FOR THE FUTURE, A
BRAND NEW BEGINNING, A CLEAN
SLATE.
WOULDN'T THAT BE WONDERFUL?
YOU CAN HAVE IT TODAY.
YOU CAN HAVE IT TODAY.
IT IS NOT JUST FOR WHITNEY,
IT IS NOT JUST FOR ME.
IT IS FOR YOU, TOO.
THE QUESTION IS: WILL YOU
TAKE IT?
IN THE END, IT ALWAYS BOILS
DOWN TO A DECISION, DOESN'T
IT?
I CAN TELL YOU ABOUT MY
EXPERIENCE, AND WHITNEY
SHARED HERS WITH YOU, BUT
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IN
YOUR LIFE?
RIGHT NOW THE INVITATION
SITS BEFORE YOU, AND JESUS
HAS OPENED HIS ARMS.
YOU KNOW, HE DID THAT FOR
ALL OF US ON THE CROSS.
HE SPREAD OUT HIS ARMS AND
HE DIED FOR US SO THAT OUR
SIN COULD BE COVERED, SO
THAT WE COULD HAVE A NEW
BEGINNING.
SO THAT ALL OF WHAT HE IS
COULD FILL US AND MAKE US
WHOLE.
TODAY, ASK HIM TO COME INTO
YOUR HEART AND YOUR LIFE.
THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE
WHOLE JOURNEY.
IT IS YOU SAYING YES TO
HIM.
YOU CAN DO THAT RIGHT NOW IF
YOU PRAY WITH ME.
LET'S JUST PRAY TOGETHER.
LET'S PRAY NOW.
BOW YOUR HEAD AND JUST SPEAK
TO HIM FROM YOUR HEART.
JESUS, JESUS, I KNOW SOME
THINGS ABOUT YOU, BUT I
DON'T KNOW YOU.
I WANT TO.
I'M COMING TO YOU TODAY AND
I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND
WHY YOU WANT ME IN THE
CONDITION THAT I'M IN, BUT
I'M STEPPING OUT IN FAITH
BECAUSE OF WHAT I HAVE SEEN
YOU DO IN THE LIVES OF
OTHERS AND BECAUSE OF WHO
YOU SAY YOU ARE.
SO TODAY, FILLED WITH SIN
AND SHAME AND HAVING MADE A
MESS OF THINGS, I COME TO
YOU.
I COME TO YOU HUMBLY, LORD,
AND I ASK YOU TO FORGIVE MY
SINS.
THEY ARE GREAT, THEY ARE
MANY, AND YOU KNOW EACH AND
EVERY ONE.
I AM SO SORRY.
I ACCEPT THAT YOUR DEATH ON
THE CROSS COVERS MY SIN, AND
I RECEIVE YOUR FORGIVENESS
TODAY.
JESUS, I WANT TO KNOW YOU IN
THE INNER MOST PART OF MY
BEING.
I WANT YOU TO WALK WITH ME.
I WANT TO WALK WITH YOU.
WILL YOU FILL ME WITH YOUR
HOLY SPIRIT TODAY?
TAKE MY LIFE, TAKE
EVERYTHING THAT I AM, ALL
THAT I HAVE, ANY ABILITIES
OR TALENTS THAT YOU'VE GIVEN
ME, EVEN MY SHORTCOMINGS,
GOD.
JUST TAKE THE WHOLE THING.
USE MY LIFE FOR YOUR GLORY.
TEACH ME HOW TO HEAR YOUR
VOICE.
CHANGE THE WAY I THINK, AND
OPEN THE EYES AND EARS OF MY
UNDERSTANDING SO I CAN KNOW
HOW TO DO THINGS YOUR WAY,
HOW TO THINK YOUR WAY.
I WANT MY LIFE TO COUNT FOR
YOU.
I WANT YOU TO BE THE SAVIOR
OF MY SOUL AND THE LORD OF
MY LIFE.
AND TODAY I SAY YES TO YOU.
AND IT'S IN YOUR NAME,
JESUS, THAT I PRAY.
AMEN.
IF YOU'VE PRAYED THAT
PRAYER, THEN YOU'VE BEGUN AN
AMAZING RELATIONSHIP THAT IS
GOING TO CHANGE YOUR LIFE
RADICALLY.
WE'D LIKE TO HELP YOU MOVE
INTO THE NEXT STEPS THAT
WILL HELP THAT HAPPEN.
WE PUT TOGETHER A PACKET
JUST FOR YOU.
IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY," AND
IT'S FILLED WITH INFORMATION
FROM THE WORD OF GOD, ABOUT
GOD.
AND THIS IS FREE.
SO IS THE NUMBER TO RECEIVE
IT.
IF YOU JUST CALL THAT NUMBER
ON YOUR SCREEN,
1-800-759-0700.
SAY, I PRAYED THE PRAYER AND
I'D LIKE THE "NEW DAY"
PACKET.
AND WE'LL SEND IT OUT.
YOU CAN ALSO GET IT BY
LOGGING ON TO CBN.COM.
Gordon: UP NEXT, HE
SPENT 250 DAYS A YEAR ON THE
ROAD, AND IT WAS MAKING
INTERNATIONAL PHONE CALLS 18
HOURS A DAY.
C.E.O. JOE MANLEY REVEALS
HIS SECRET TO SUCCESS.
AND HERE'S A HINT: IT'S NOT
WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK.
LOOKING BACK OVER
EVERYTHING THAT HAD HAPPENED
IN MY LIFE, AND RUNNING FROM
GOD AND THINKING HE WOULDN'T
FORGIVE SOMEBODY WHO HAD
DONE THE THINGS THAT I HAD,
HOW STUPID I WAS.
THAT WAS THE MOST MISERABLE
TIME OF MY LIFE.
I COULDN'T DO ENOUGH DRUGS
AND I COULDN'T DO ENOUGH
ALCOHOL TO MAKE IT STOP.
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THIS
WHOLE ORDEAL, I PRAYED,
JESUS FIX ME.
IT IS EVERYTHING IN TRUSTING
GOD.
JUST TAKE THAT ONE STEP.
THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.
Reporter: A DEADLY
CRASH THAT MADE NATIONAL
HEADLINES.
THE ONLY SURVIVOR,
22-YEAR-OLD HANNAH LUCE,
DAUGHTER ON TEEN MANIA
FOUNDER, RON LUCE.
RON LUCE GIVES US THE LATEST
ON HER DAUGHTER'S RECOVERY,
ON THE NEXT "700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE."
Reporter: AND WELCOME
BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB."
MEMBERS OF THE FAMOUS
CRYSTAL CATHEDRAL WILL
RELOCATE NEXT SUMMER.
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC DIOCESE
OF CALIFORNIA PURCHASED THE
GLASS PANE BUILDING FOR A
LITTLE MORE THAN
$57 MILLION.
IT WILL ALLOW THEIR
CONGREGATION TO MEET AT A
NEARBY CATHOLIC CHURCH FOR
FREE THROUGH DECEMBER OF
NEXT YEAR.
ROBERT SCHULER FOUNDED THE
CHURCH AND ITS "HOUR OF
POWER" TELEVISION MINISTRY.
THE BUILDING WAS SOLD OFF TO
PAY MORE THAN $40 MILLION OF
DEBT.
AN "OPERATION BLESSING" FOOD
BANK IS HELPING SAVE LIVES
IN NIGER.
THEY SAID IT IS THE WORST
PLACE TO BE FOR A MOTHER.
BUT "OPERATION BLESSING" IS
STEPPING IN TO HELP THERE.
O.B. SET UP A FOOD BANK THAT
PROVIDES FOOD, EVEN DURING
TIMES OF DROUGHT AND
FAMINE.
DURING HARVEST TIMES,
FAMILIES SELL THEIR CROPS TO
THE BANK, AND THEN WHEN FOOD
IS SCARCE, THEY'RE ABLE TO
USE THEIR PROFITS TO BUY
FROM THE FOOD BANK AT A MUCH
LOWER PRICE.
ONE WOMAN SAYS WITHOUT
"OPERATION BLESSING"'S FOOD
BANK, SHE DOES NOT KNOW
WHERE SHE WOULD FIND FOOD TO
FEED HER CHILDREN.
YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT
"OPERATION BLESSING" BY
GOING TO ITS WEBSITE AT
OB.ORG.
GORDON AND TERRY WILL BE
BACK RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Reporter: MONDAY...WITH
NO MOM OR DAD AROUND --
I REMEMBER SO MANY NIGHTS
NOT HAVING ANY FOOD TO EAT,
NOT HAVING ANYONE TO SAY I
LOVE YOU.
Reporter: ONLY AN
ABUSIVE UNCLE.
HE TOLD ME IF I EVER TOLD
ANYONE, MY AUNT WOULDN'T
LOVE ME ANYMORE.
Reporter: AND AN
ALCOHOLIC AUNT.
SHE LOOKED AT ME AND
SAID, IT WAS YOUR FAULT.
Reporter: ONE TEEN GOES
LOOKING FOR LOVE IN ALL OF
THE WRONG PLACES, ON
MONDAY'S "700 CLUB."
Gordon: WHEN JOE
INTERVIEWED FOR A JOB AT
HERBAN ENTERTAINMENT, HE WAS
20 MINUTES LATE.
THIS WAS BEFORE G.P.S., AND
JOE SIMPLY GOT LOST.
HE GOT THE JOB ANYWAY.
AND YEARS LATER, THE REST OF
AMERICA GOT TO SEE WHAT MADE
JOEL SPECIAL, TOO, AFTER HE
APPEARED ON AN EPISODE OF
"UNDERCOVER BOSS."
Reporter: JOE MAMBI
WENT UNDERCOVER AT ONE OF
THE 26 THEME PARKS HE
OVERSEASON THE CBS SHOW
"UNDERCOVER BOSS."
VIEWERS COULDN'T BELIEVE HIS
EMPLOYEES JOB SATISFACTION.
IT IS NOT JUST A PLACE I
WORK.
IT IS MY PASSION.
Reporter: AND THEY WERE
MORE SURPRISED TO SEE A BOSS
WHO REALLY CARED.
I HAVE A LOT OF EMOTION
FOR HIM.
I REALLY RESPECT HIS PASSION
AND ENERGY.
GREAT, BECAUSE YOU CAN
CHANNEL THAT.
Reporter: JOE'S CARING
ATTITUDE WASN'T JUST FOR THE
CAMERAS.
IT IS PART OF HIS COMPANY'S
LEADERSHIP CULTURE.
IN HIS BOOK "LOVE WORKS,"
JOE EXPLORES THE SEVEN
BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES THAT
GUIDE HIS CORPORATION AND
SHARES HOW LEADING WITH LOVE
CAN TURN THE BUSINESS WORLD
UP SIDE DOWN.
Gordon: PLEASE WELCOME
TO THE "THE 700 CLUB" JOE
MAMBI.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.
GREAT TO BE HERE.
THANK YOU.
Gordon: YOU HAVE SORT
OF BECOME A HERO AFTER THAT
EPISODE, AND HAVE JOB
APPLICATIONS STARTED TO COME
IN?
ARE YOU GETTING SWAMPED WITH
PEOPLE WHO WANT TO WORK FOR
YOU?
IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE
RESPONSE.
WE HAD 18 MILLION PEOPLE
VIEW THE PROGRAM THAT WEEK
ON "UNDERCOVER BOSS," AND IT
WAS OVERWHELMED WITH THE
RESPONSE.
IT WAS THEIR FRUSTRATION IN
THEIR DAY TO DAY WORK AND
THEY WANTED LEADERS THAT
CARED ABOUT THEM.
IT REALLY SHOWED ME WE HAVE
A LEADERSHIP CRISIS IN THIS
COUNTRY.
Gordon: WHAT DO YOU
BASE YOUR LEADERSHIP
PRINCIPLES ON?
WHAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL?
THE FUNDAMENTAL IS WE
BASE IT ON LOVE.
IT IS THE PRINCIPLE OF LOVE
RIGHT OUT OF THE BIBLE.
I HAVE A 30-YEAR BUSINESS
CAREER, INCLUDING BEING
C.E.O. OF SAAB NORTH
AMERICA, I HAVE A HARVARD
NBA, AND I HELPED START
SATURN, AND IN ALL OF THOSE
YEARS, NO ONE EVER TAUGHT ME
WHAT IS THE BEST PRINCIPLE,
WHICH IS LOVE.
Gordon: I WOULDN'T
IMAGINE HARVARD WOULD TEACH
YOU THAT?
IT WAS A GREAT SCHOOL,
BUT NOT LOVE.
Gordon: YOU BASE IN ON
1 CORINTHIANS 13.
YOU LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE,
LOVE IS NOT AN EMOTION.
IT IS A VERB.
THIS IS WHAT IT DOES.
YES.
Gordon: WHAT ARE SOME
OF THE PRINCIPLES?
FIRST OF ALL, PEOPLE
MISPERCEIVE LOVE A LOT.
THEY THINK IT IS EMOTIONAL.
THEY THINK OF IT AS THE
AMERICAN LOVE, ROMANTIC.
THIS IS LOVE, THE VERB, IT
IS HOW YOU TREAT OTHER
PEOPLE.
IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU
FEEL ABOUT THEM, IT IS HOW
YOU TREAT THEM.
WE HAVE SEVEN WORDS WE TOOK
OUT OF 1 CORINTHIANS, AND
THAT'S WHAT WE USE TO TRAIN
OUR PEOPLE.
WE ACTUALLY TRAIN OUR
EMPLOYEES TO LOVE EACH
OTHER.
THAT IS VERY RARE IN THE
WORLD OF BUSINESS.
Gordon: I'M STUNNED
WITH THAT ONE.
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU DID THAT.
DESCRIBE HOW YOU DID THAT?
THE REASON PEOPLE FEEL
THAT WAY IS BECAUSE THEY
THINK OF LOVE THE EMOTION.
PATIENT, KIND, TRUTHFUL,
TRUSTING, UNSELFISH,
FORGIVING -- THOSE ARE GOOD,
SOLID PRINCIPLES.
THEY ARE APPLICABLE IF
YOU'RE A PARENT, YOU'RE A
P.T.A., OR YOU RUN A FORTUNE
500 BUSINESS.
I HAVE LEARNED AT HERSHEN,
YOU CAN BE PROFITABLE AND
CARING AND YOU CAN BE LOVING
AND ACCOUNTABLE.
AND WE'VE PROVEN THAT.
IN THE BOOK WE WROTE ABOUT
LOVE, AND USING LOVE AND
WORK.
BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN IN THE
ROUGH AND TUMBLE, FOR-PROFIT
WORLD MY LIFE.
I HAVE BEEN VERY DISPOND
DEN DISPONDENT IN THAT
WORLD.
Gordon: YOU'RE RIGHT,
THAT THE BUSINESS CULTURE
RIGHT NOW IS VERY FOCUSED ON
PROFIT AND LITERALLY ON A
QUARTERLY BASES.
AND IF YOU CAN'T GET PROFIT
BY GROWING YOUR MARGIN, OR
YOU CAN'T GET PROFIT BY
GROWING REVENUE, YOU GET
PROFIT BY CUTTING EXPENSES,
WHICH USUALLY MEANS LETTING
HUGE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE GO.
RIGHT.
Gordon: WHY IS THIS
FORMULA BETTER?
WE'VE PROVEN THAT WE CAN
BE VERY PROFITABLE AND USE
THESE PRINCIPLES.
OUR COMPANY HAS HAD
DOUBLE-DIGIT RETURNS FOR OUR
SHAREHOLDERS FOR A DECADE.
WE'VE GROWN EVERY YEAR IN
THIS RECESSION ACCEPT ONE.
AND WE OUTPERFORMED EVERY
ONE OF OUR COMPETITORS
FINANCIALLY, BUT WE STILL
LED WITH LOVE.
Gordon: THAT'S GOT TO
BE ONE OF THE BEST TRACK
RECORDS IN THIS COUNTRY?
WE HAVE LAID VERY FEW
PEOPLE OFF IN THIS
RECESSION.
AND WE MADE SOME VERY
DIFFICULT DECISIONS -- AND
IF WE HAVE TIME, WE'LL TALK
ABOUT THAT.
AND CHICK FILET, THEY LEAD
WITH LOVE.
THEY OUTPERFORM
McDONALD'S.
I REJECT THIS FALSE NOTION
YOU HAVE TO BE A CERTAIN WAY
TO BE PROFITABLE.
I HAVE TO HIT MY NUMBERS,
BUT YOU CAN DO IT IN A WAY
THAT IS CARING FOR PEOPLE.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE TO LET
PEOPLE GO, THERE IS A RIGHT
AND WRONG WAY TO DO IT.
Gordon: HOW DO YOU LET
PEOPLE GO WITH LOVE?
THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
FIRST OF ALL, IF SOMEONE IS
NOT WORKING IN THEIR
PASSION, I WOULD ARGUE IT IS
LOVING TO GET THEM WHERE
THEY'RE PASSIONATE AND
COMPETENT.
I THINK IT IS MORE IMPORTANT
HOW YOU GO ABOUT DOING IT.
FOR INSTANCE, I SAID WE HAD
TO LOSE VERY FEW PEOPLE.
BUT WE DID HAVE TO LAY
PEOPLE OFF CORPORATELY.
WE GAVE THEM SIX MONTHS
NOTICE, AND WE HELPED THEM
FIND NEW JOBS, AND ALL OF
THEM BUT ONE HAD FOUND A
JOB.
THE ONE THAT HADN'T, WE GOT
THEM A JOB WITHIN A MONTH.
AND WE TRACKED WITH HIM AND
STAYED WITH HIM, AND THERE
IS A WAY I THINK YOU CAN DO
THAT IN A LOVING WAY.
AND ANOTHER THING IS, NO ONE
SHOULD EVER BE SURPRISED
WHEN THEY ARE LET GO.
I TELL PEOPLE IN OUR
COMPANY, IF THEY'RE
SURPRISED, YOU HAVE DONE
SOMETHING WRONG.
I HAVE STOPPED PEOPLE FROM
BEING LET GO WHEN THERE WAS
YOU NO TRACK RECORD.
Gordon: ALL RIGHT.
LESSON LEARNED.
WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT
YOUR COMPANY WHEN YOU WENT
UNDERCOVER?
I LEARNED WE HAVE
INCREDIBLE EMPLOYEES, AND
THE CULTURE WAS EVEN
STRONGER THAN I THOUGHT IT
WAS.
IT IS NOT ME THAT HAS DONE
THIS.
THIS IS THE HERSHEN FAMILY
THAT HAS DONE THIS.
I'M TRYING TO PUT IT IN A
THE VERNACULAR THAT WE CAN
TRAIN PEOPLE ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY.
AND I LEARNED THERE IS A
CRISIS IN THIS COUNTRY, FROM
ALL OF THE RESPONSE I GOT
FROM THIS SHOW, THAT OTHER
PEOPLE WANT TO LEARN HOW TO
LEAD WITH LOVE.
I REALLY BELIEVE THERE IS A
LOT OF DISSATISFIED PEOPLE,
AND THERE IS ALSO A LOT OF
CHRISTIANS OUT THERE WHO
WANT TO LEARN HOW TO
PRACTICE THEIR FAITH EVERY
DAY WHEN THEY GO TO WORK.
AND THEY'RE FRUSTRATED
BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW
HOW.
AND THE BOOK THAT I
WROTE, "LOVE WORKS," TALKS
ABOUT HOW YOU CAN LIVE OUT
YOUR FAITH IN THE DOG EAT
DOG WORK WORLD AND STILL BE
PLEASING TO JESUS.
Gordon: THE STORIES OF
PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR BOSSES
THAT ARE ABUSIVE, AND EVERY
DAY THEY WAKE UP AND THEY
DON'T WANT TO GO IN, WHAT
WOULD YOU TELL THEM?
WHAT SHOULD THEY DO?
THERE IS A CHAPTER IN THE
BOOK ABOUT A WOMAN NAMED
JUDY, WHO IS AN EXECUTIVE
ASSISTANT, AND SHE HAS MORE
IMPACT ON THE CULTURE OF HER
COMPANY THAN ANYBODY ELSE.
I BELIEVE WITH ALL OF MY
HEART THAT EVERYBODY CAN
MAKE A CULTURE BETTER.
EVERY TIME YOU COME INTO
CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY, YOU
CAN MAKE THEIR DAY BETTER OR
MAKE THEIR DAY WORSE.
THAT'S SOMETHING MY MOTHER
TAUGHT ME.
THERE IS NO DOUBT IF THE
LEADER DOESN'T SUPPORT IT,
IT IS HARDER OVER TIME.
AND THEY HAVE A DECISION TO
MAKE OVER TIME, BUT I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN'T MAKE
AN IMPACT.
EVERYBODY CAN LOVE OTHER
PEOPLE.
Gordon: AND JUST BY
DOING THAT, IT GETS
INFECTIOUS?
ABSOLUTELY IT GETS
INFECTIOUS.
Gordon: WHAT ABOUT THE
HERSHEN FAMILY TAUGHT YOU?
HERE YOU ARE WORKING EVERY
DAY, HITTING YOUR NUMBERS --
WHAT ABOUT THEM TRANSFORMED
YOU?
THEY SAVED MY LIFE.
I WAS RUNNING SAB AMERICA,
AND I HAD ASIA AND NORTH
AMERICA --
Gordon: THAT'S A LONG
HAUL.
IT'S A LONG HAUL.
Gordon: I DID THAT.
PIERMT
I READ YOUR BIO, AND YOU
UNDERSTAND.
Gordon: I DIDN'T TRAVEL
AS MUCH AS YOU, BUT FOUR
MONTHS ON THE ROAD --
YOU KNOW WHAT IT DOES TO
THE FAMILY.
MY FAMILY WAS IN TROUBLE.
I JUST WAS VERY
DISRESPONDENT.
I LEFT SAAB AND THEY ALMOST
WENT CHAPTER 11.
ONE NIGHT JACK HERSHEN
CALLED ME, AND I WAS ON THE
BOARD IN HERSHEN
ENTERTAINMENT, AND I HAD NO
EXPERIENCE, AND YET HE ASKED
ME TO BE CHAIRMAN.
AND THAT WAS TOTALLY A GOD
THING.
GOD BASICALLY PULLED ME OUT
OF THIS COMPLETE
DISSPONDENCY I WAS IN.
AND I SEE NOW YOU CAN LEAD
WITH LOVE AND CREATE A GREAT
CULTURE AND DO SOME
WONDERFUL THINGS FOR
EMPLOYEES.
ONE OF THE WORDS IN THE BOOK
IS "UNSEL UNSELFISHNESS,"
OUR EMPLOYEES GIVE INTO A
FUND, AND ALL OF THAT MONEY
IS USED TO HELP EMPLOYEES IN
NEED.
THIS YEAR WE'RE GOING TO
HELP 10% OF OUR SEASONAL
WORKFORCE WITH SOME KIND OF
FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, TO
HELP THEM GET THROUGH THIS
CRISIS WE'RE IN AS A
COUNTRY.
OBVIOUSLY, THEY'RE VERY
MOTIVATED AND LOYAL TO THE
COMPANY, BUT IT IS AN IDEA
THAT COMPANIES ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY COULD DO.
ONE OF THE REASONS I WROTE
THE BOOK, I'M HOPING THAT
OTHER COMPANIES WILL COPY US
AND DO PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO
HAVE SUCH A HORRIBLE
BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT WE HAVE
IN THIS COUNTRY.
I'M TIRED OF BUSINESSES
GETTING BASHED IN THIS KIND
OF CLASS WARFARE THAT IS
GOING ON.
I THINK WE NEED TO DO A
BETTER JOB AS LEADERS TO
LIFT GOOD COSTUMERS UP.
Gordon: AND YOUR
COSTUMERS RECOGNIZE THAT?
THEY ABSOLUTELY RECOGNIZE
THAT.
Gordon: WHEN YOU WALK
INTO AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE
YOU KNOW THERE IS LOVE, YOU
RESPOND.
ON AN EMOTIONAL LEVEL, YOU
CONNECT WITH THEM.
WHETHER IT IS YOUR
STATION OR CHICK FILET, OR
YOUR COMPANY -- PEOPLE FEEL
IT.
IT FEELS LIKE FAMILY.
SEASONAL EMPLOYEES GOING
BACK FOR 40 YEARS.
PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND THEIR
MONEY WITH COMPANIES THEY
LOVE AND ADMIRE.
I THINK THEY DO WITH THE
HERSHEN'S PROPERTIES.
Gordon: LOVE WORKS.
THE VARIATION ON LOVE NEVER
FAILS.
SEVEN TIMELESS PRINCIPLES
FOR EFFECT TIFIVE LEADERS.
WHETHER YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE
OR AN EMPLOYER, I ENCOURAGE
EVERYONE TO GET IT.
LET'S ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO
HAVE LOVE IN OUR FAMILIES,
OUR WORK, IN OUR CULTURE.
IF YOU WANT IT, IT IS
AVAILABLE NATIONWIDE.
AND ALL OF THE PROCEEDS
GO TO THAT FOUNDATION.
WE'RE HOPING TO RAISE A LOT
OF MONEY FOR THAT
FOUNDATION.
Gordon: THANKS.
THANK YOU.
Terry: WE SCOURED
Facebook, TWITTER, OUR
IN-BOX, AND EVEN OUR
CHATROOM FOR YOUR
QUESTIONS.
COMING UP NEXT, IT IS TIME
FORP SOME OF THE ANSWERS.
STAY ATTEND TO "BRING IT
ON," WHEN WE COME BACK.
*
Terry: JODY FRY WAS
WORKING TWO JOBS AND STILL
STRUGGLING TO PAY THE
BILLS.
UNTIL HE FOUND A WAY TO
BOOST HIS INCOME BY 70% AND
CUT HIS WORK HOURS IN HALF.
Reporter: WHEN JODY FRY
LOST HIS JOB, HE THOUGHT IT
WOULD BE EASY TO FIND
ANOTHER.
HE WAS WRONG.
HE REMAINED UNEMPLOYED FOR
ONE YEAR.
THAT TAXED THE FAMILY
EMOTIONALLY AND
FINANCIALLY.
IT WAS TOUGH.
AND THERE WAS JUST NO PLACE
TO GO WITH IT.
OUR CHILDREN WERE YOUNG,
AND WE HAD JUST BOUGHT A
HOUSE, SO THERE WAS THIS
IMMENSE PRESSURE OF NOW WHAT
DO WE DO?
Reporter: SO WHEN JODY
GOT NOT ONE, BUT TWO JOB
OFFERS, HE TOOK BOTH.
THE FAMILY'S FINANCES
STARTED TO REBOUND, BUT THEY
WERE ALL PAYING A PRICE FOR
JODY'S LONG HOURS.
IT BECAME NORMAL THAT I
WASN'T GOING TO BE AROUND
FOR DINNER.
I WOULD LEAVE AT 5:00 IN THE
MORNING AND GET HOME AROUND
PROBABLY 7:00 AT NIGHT AND
GO DOWNSTAIRS AND WORK.
EVERY TIME I WOULD HEAR
THAT, IT'S OKAY, DAD, THAT
YOU CAN'T BE THERE, IT JUST
TORE ME UP.
Reporter: BUT THE
FAMILY COULDN'T SEEM TO MAKE
IT FINANCIALLY ON ONE
SALARY, SO JODY KEPT WORKING
AND MISSING TIME WITH HIS
FAMILY.
ON THE MORNING TRAIN RIDE
IN, I WOULD SLEEP.
AND MOST OF MY LUNCHES WERE
WORKING FOR THE OTHER JOB.
AND AS SOON AS I HIT THE
TRAIN TO COME BACK HOME, I
WOULD BE ON THE PHONE MAKING
PHONE CALLS.
MY VACATIONS WERE ALL SPENT
MAKING SALES CALLS.
Reporter: AFTER YEARS
OF WORKING AT THAT PACE,
JODY WAS EXHAUSTED.
HE QUIT HIS FULL-TIME JOB TO
FOCUS ON SALES.
AT THE SAME TIME, HE WATCHED
"THE 700 CLUB."
I HEARD PAT TALKING ABOUT
BRINGING GOD THE TITHES AND
HE WOULD POUR OUT HIS
BLESSING ON YOU.
IT STARTED OPENING UP MY
EYES.
Reporter: JODY AND
VICKI BEGAN TO TITHE AND
GAVE TO CBN.
OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS,
JODY SAYS HIS SALES OF
BUSINESS EQUIPMENT SOARED.
LOOKING BACK, HE REALIZED HE
WAS MAKING MORE MONEY
WORKING HALF THE HOURS HE
PREVIOUSLY WORKED DOING TWO
JOBS.
ACTUALLY, THERE HAS BEEN
A 70% INCREASE IN MY SALES
VOLUME, WORKING LESS TIME.
AND WHEN I START TO THINK
ABOUT THAT, I'M LIKE, THERE
IS NO WAY I COULD HAVE SET
THE STAGE FOR THAT.
THAT IS JUST GOD SAYING,
HEY, YOU'RE STARTING TO PAY
ATTENTION TO ME.
Reporter: TODAY THE
FRYS ARE MEMBERS OF CBN'S
CHAIRMAN'S CIRCLE.
AND HE NO LONGER MISSES MEAL
TIMES.
I'VE GOT 70% MORE INCOME
COMING IN AND MORE TIME WITH
MY FAMILY.
I DEFINITELY WOULD ENCOURAGE
PEOPLE TO TITHE, AND TO
WATCH "THE 700 CLUB," IF
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE
PRINCIPLE AND WHAT THAT
MEANS TO THEM.
AND, REALLY, THE CHALLENGE
WOULD BE, WHAT ARE YOU
WAITING FOR?
Terry: GOD IS INVITING
US TO GET OUR LIVES IN
ORDER, TO GET OUR HOUSE IN
ORDER.
WHETHER IN THE BUSINESS, THE
WAY WE RUN IT, OR THE
LEADERSHIP IN OUR HOUSEHOLD,
HOW WE'RE RAISING OUR
CHILDREN OR RESPONDING TO
EACH OTHER, BECAUSE HE WANTS
US TO EXPERIENCE THE
FULLNESS OF LIFE, AND THAT
COMES WHEN WE LISTEN TO WHAT
HE IS TELLING US AND WHEN WE
SEE IT AS TRUTH AND RESPOND
TO IT.
YOU JUST HEARD HIM SAY, I
WISH THAT WE HAD WATCHED THE
"THE 700 CLUB" WHAT THE
PRINCIPLES ARE ALL ABOUT --
THAT'S WHAT WE JUST SHARED
WITH YOU.
GIVING SO THAT WE CAN REACH
OUT AND TOUCH THE LIVES OF
OTHERS AS WELL.
JOIN "THE 700 CLUB" TODAY.
IT IS 65 CENTS A DAY, $20 A
MONTH.
WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THE
WORLD, MEETING PEOPLE'S
NEEDS TANGIBLY, AND MEETING
THEIR NEEDS SPIRITUALLY AS
WELL.
WHEN YOU JOIN US TODAY, AND
YOU CAN DO IT BY CALLING
THAT TOLL-FREE NUMBER, WE
WANT TO SEND YOU THIS GREAT
TEACHING BY PAT.
IT'S "THE THREE BLESSINGS."
HE TALKS ABOUT THE THREE
THINGS HE HAS ASKED GOD FOR
DURING THIS 50 YEARS IN
MINISTRY.
I THINK THEY WILL BE A
BLESSING TO YOU.
I WANT YOU TO GET AHOLD OF
IT SO YOU KNOW HOW TO APPLY
THAT TO YOUR OWN LIFE.
IT IS AVAILABLE TO EACH OF
US.
SO CALL 1-800-759-0700.
SAY, I WANT TO JOIN "THE 700
CLUB," AND WE WELCOME YOU.
TIME FOR SOME E-MAIL.
YOU READY?
Gordon: I'M READY.
Terry: ROSLYN SAYS I'M
22 YEARS OLD, NINE MONTHS
PREGNANT, AND SCARED TO
DEATH ABOUT BEING A PARENT.
MY FEAR IS THAT I'M TOO
YOUNG.
DO YOU THINK GOD CAN STILL
USE ME?"
Gordon: YES, ROSLYN,
GOD CAN STILL YOU.
JEJEREMIAH THOUGHT HE WAS
TOO YOUNG.
THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID, "LET
NO ONE DESPISE YOUR YOUTH."
BIBLE SCHOLARS THINK MARY
WAS JUST A TEENAGER WHEN SHE
GAVE BIRTH TO THE SAVIOR OF
THE WORLD.
HER RESPONSE TO THE ANGEL
WAS LET IT BE UNTO ME
ACCORDING TO YOUR WORD.
REALIZE, GOD IS WITH YOU.
AND ONCE YOU HAVE THAT, AND
THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HE IS
WITH YOU, THEN HE'LL
INSTRUCT YOU ON HOW TO BE A
PARENT, HOW TO BE A GREAT
MOTHER.
AND JUST START THINKING,
OKAY, 22 YEARS FROM NOW,
YOU'LL BE 44 AND YOUR
WONDERFUL CHILD WILL BE 22.
AND YOU GET TO START IT ALL
OVER AGAIN.
SO GOD'S WITH YOU.
NO MATTER WHAT, HE WILL
NEVER LEAVE YOU.
HE WILL NEVER NOR SAKE
FORSAKE YOU.
Terry: CHRIS SAYS, "I'M
STRUGGLING WITH SEXUAL
IMMORTALITY, AND I CAN'T
SEEM TO OVERCOME IT.
WHAT CAN I DO?"
Gordon: CHRIS, THE BEST
WAY TO DEAL WITH THIS IS
FAST.
SOME THINGS COME OUT ONLY BY
FASTING AND PRAYER.
I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO
NOT JUST A ONE-DAY, TWO-DAY,
BUT FAST UNTIL YOU GET THE
VICTORY.
IT MAY TAKE YOU A COUPLE OF
TIMES, BUT FASTING IS THE
KEY TO BREAKING SEXUAL SIN.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM PSALM 59: "I WILL
SING OF YOUR POWER, I WILL
SING ALOUD OF YOUR MERCY IN
THE MORNING, FOR YOU HAVE
BECOME MY DEFENSE AND REFUGE
IN THE DAY OF MY TROUBLE."
FOR TERRY, FOR LEE, AND FOR
MYSELF, GOD BLESS YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN ON
MONDAY.
