HELLO, I'M BRIAN WARREN.
AND I'M LAURA LYNN TYLER
THOMPSON, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.
WELL, BRIGHT LIGHTS, BIG
CITY, YOU KNOW, IT ACTUALLY CAN
CAUSE A LOT OF THINGS TO SHOW A
LOT OF IMPERFECTIONS.
I THINK IT CAN.
BEING ON THE 700 CLUB, WE
ARE ON THE SPOTLIGHT, I DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S AFFECTED YOU,
PEOPLE SEE ME, I DON'T THINK
YOU SEE A LOT OF BROTHERS ON
TELEVISION, SO WHEN THEY SEE
ME, I CAN USUALLY SEE THAT
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S
WHO -- IT'S -- BUT THE BIG --
LET'S REMEMBER THOUGH, I AM
FROM EWE GONE DA, EAST AFRICA.
YOU WERE BORN THERE BUT YOU
DON'T HAVE THE TAN.
I WAS BORN IN AFRICA, YOU
WERE NOT BORN IN AFRICA, I AM
MORE AFRICAN AMERICAN THAN MY
BROTHER HERE, AFRICAN CANADIAN.
GET YOUR PIGMENT RIGHT.
OKAY.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, TODAY WE
HAVE GOT A COUPLE OF STORIES
THAT DEAL WITH THE SUBJECT OF
LIGHT.
YEAH, THIS YEAR, THE
AMERICAN GOVERNMENT IS PLANNING
TO PHASE OUT ALL INCANDESCENT
LIGHT BULBS AND REPLACE THEM
WITH MORE EFFICIENT ONES.
IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU ARE
FAILING, LIKE YOU AREN'T
LIVING THE LIFE THAT YOU WERE
MEANT TO LIVE, JOE KIZACK'S
STORY WILL SHOW GOD CAN TURN
ANY SITUATION AROUND, TODAY
YOU'LL SEE HOW JOE HAS MOVED ON
FROM PAST PROBLEMS AND DOING
WHATEVER HE CAN TO INSPIRE
OTHERS.
AND LAURA LYNN WILL SHINE
MORE LIGHT ON WHAT YOU BELIEVE,
CANADA, AS SHE CONTINUES HER
CONVERSATION ABOUT FAITH WITH A
COUPLE OF ATHEISTS.
BUT FIRST, SHINING A LIGHT
ON GREEN TECHNOLOGY AND SOME OF
THE CONTROVERSY THAT SURROUNDS
IT.
FOR MORE THAN 130 YEARS,
THOMAS EDISON'S INCANDESCENT
BULB THAT LIT UP BULBS AROUND
THE WORLD, NOW IT MIGHT BE A
THING OF THE PAST, IN 2007,
CONGRESS PASSED THE ENERGY
INDEPENDENCE AND SECURITY ACT,
REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS ARE
(INAUDIBLE) ITS ENACTMENT BUT IF
THEY FAIL, THE LAW WILL GO INTO
EFFECT LATER THIS YEAR, IT
REQUIRES BASIC LIGHT BULBS TO
BE ABOUT 25% MORE EFFICIENT AND
REMOVE MORE TRADITIONAL
INCANDESCENT BULBS FROM THE MAR,
SARAH IS IN THE
TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND LIGHTS
INDUSTRY.
I THINK IT'S WISE BECAUSE
MAYBE 40, 50 YEARS AGO, IT
WOULDN'T HAVE WORKED BECAUSE
THERE WERE NO ALTERNATIVES.
THOSE ALTERNATIVES FALL INTO
TWO CATEGORIES, CFL'S KNOWN FOR
THEIR CURLY SHAPE AND LIGHT
EMITTING DIODES OF LED'S,
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SAVE ENERGY
AND LAST LONGER, HAROLD
BRANTSTONE IS NOT READY TO GIVE
UP ON A BULB THAT'S NOT BROKEN,
HE'S KNOWN FOR LIGHTING UP
STRUCTURES, HE STANDS BY
EDISON'S INVENTION.
HERE IS A STANDARD 100 WATT
INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULB, UNDER
CURRENT LAW, THIS BULB IS TO BE
PHASED OUT THIS YEAR AND THIS IS
A MOVE THAT BRANTSTONE
OPPOSES, HE CONSIDERS IT'S A
MORAL OBLIGATION TO SPEAK OUT
AND HE'S LAUNCHED A CAMPAIGN.
LOOK AT ALL THE PEOPLE THAT
HAVE LOST THEIR HOME, LOOK AT
ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT OF
WORK, LOOK AT ALL OF THAT AND
NOW WE'RE GOING TO IMPOSE A NEW
FINANCIAL BURDEN ON THEM.
ON HIS WEBSITE, SAVE THE
BULB, BRANTSTONE WRITES, I SEE
NO GOOD REASON TO RELEGATE
AMERICA'S GREATEST INVENTIONS
TO HISTORY OTHER THAN TO SUIT
THE PARTICULAR INTEREST OF
POLITICIANS.
I KNOW A COUPLE OF SENIOR
RESEARCHERS IN THE LIGHTING
INDUSTRY WHO HAVE STARTED TO
HOARD LIGHT BULBS AND ME
INCLUDE BECAUSE I MAY NOT WIN
THIS FIGHT.
HIS DEDICATION INCLUDES A
LIFETIME SUPPLY OF BULBS STORED
IN HIS BASEMENT.
WHY WON'T THIS DESIGNER EMBRACE
THE FUTURE, THE CFL ALTERNATIVE
CONTAINS MERCURY.
THEY BANNED MERCURY IN
THERMOMETER, NOW THEY'RE
SAYING, IT'S OKAY, IN LIGHT
BULBS, IT'S OKAY BUT IN
THERMOMETER, NO, THAT'S BECAUSE
IT'S BEEN PUSHED BY THE
MANUFACTURERS AND WHAT I CALL
THE GREEN MACHINE.
MILES WHOSE COMPANY
SPECIALIZES IN LED LIGHTS SAYS
THAT
I HAD ONE FALL ON MY CARPET
THE OTHER DAY WHERE I WAS
PHOTOGRAPHING THEM, EVEN ON
SOFT CARPET, IT SMASHED INTO
SMITHEREENS, THEY WOULDN'T
HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.
THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
AGENCY STATES THE USE OF CFL'S
HELPS REDUCE MERCURY EMISSIONS
IN THE U.S. BECAUSE OF THEIR
SIGNIFICANT ENERGY SAVINGS,
THEY PUT DETAILED INSTRUCTIONS
ON THEIR WEBSITE TO TELL YOU
WHAT TO DO IF A CFL BREAKS IN
YOUR HOME, THIS IS WHAT
HAPPENED TO A MAN WHEN HE
STEPPED ON A CFL AND HIS FOOT
BECAME INFECTED WITH MERCURY
POISING
YOU HAVE TO PICK UP
THE IMPORTANT PARTS, AND THEN
DOUBLE BAG THEM IN SEALED
PLASTIC BAGS, NOBODY'S GOING TO
DO THIS, YOU CAN'T VACUUM IT UP.
MILES SAYS LED LIGHTING IS
NOT DELICATE.
THESE ARE VIRTUALLY
UNBREAKABLE.
BE PREPARED TO PAY QUITE A
BIT MORE FOR THE LED'S AND
CFL'S, YOU CAN PAY A BUCK FOR A
THREE PACK OF TRADITIONAL BULBS
WHILE A THREE PACK OF CFL'S CAN
COST 10 TO 15 BUCK, LED'S COST
THE MOST.
YOU CAN BE ANYWHERE FROM 10
DOLLARS TO 35 DOLLARS A LAMP.
THE ATTRACTION OF ENERGY
SAVINGS AND LONG LIFE WILL WIN
OVER CONSUMERS.
THERE'S THE UNINTERRUPTED
SPECTRUM COMING FROM THE BULB.
THE EFFORT BY CONSERVATIVES AND
CONGRESS MAY BE ABLE TO STALL
LIGHT BULB SOCIALISM, MARK
MARTIN, NEW YORK.
WOW, LAURA LYNN, THAT WAS
VERY INFORMATIVE.
SOME OF THOSE LIGHT BULBS,
THEY DON'T WEAR OUT FOR THREE
YEARS.
I WONDER IF CANADA'S GOING
TO FOLLOW?
I DON'T KNOW BUT THEY'RE
KIND OF COOL.
UP NEXT, JOE HIS SACK'S LIFE
BECAME A NIGHTMARE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE WANTED IS
ACCEPTANCE AND ACCEPTANCE FROM
MY DAD THAT WHAT I WAS DOING
WAS ENOUGH, IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH,
THAT I WAS GOOD ENOUGH, THAT I
DIDN'T HAVE TO PERFORM IN ORDER
TO BE LOVED.
FROM AN EARLY AGE, JOE
KIZACK FELT HE COULDN'T PLEASE
HIS FATHER, EVEN WHEN HE
LAUNCHED HIS CAREER AS AN
EXECUTIVE IN HOLLYWOOD.
I SAT WITH MY DAD AND I
STILL WOULDN'T HEAR, GREAT JOB,
IT'S ALMOST ON THE INSIDE, IT'S
LIKE, THIS IS AS GOOD AS I CAN
MAKE IT.
I CAN'T DO IT OR WORK ANY
HARDER AND IF I CAN'T GET YOU
TO SAY GOOD JOB, IT WAS
DEFLATING TO ME.
NO AMOUNT OF REWARDS MADE
JOE HAPPY.
I WAS MISERABLE IN THE
INSIDE THAT I HAD GOTTEN WHAT I
THOUGHT I WANTED BUT IT DIDN'T
SATISFY ME.
HIS DOCTOR PRESCRIBED
MEDICATION FOR DEPRESSION.
HE EVALUATED ME AND STARTED
ME ON DEPRESSION MEDICATION AND
THAT WAS THE BEGINNING, IT WAS
A COUPLE OF YEARS OF JUST, IF
YOU WILL, EXPERIMENTING WITH
THE LIGHT CHEMICALS THAT WERE
SUPPOSED TO HELP WITH PRODUCING
THE LIGHT BALANCE IN MY LIFE.
JOE BEGAN TAKING LARGER
DOSES THAN THE DOCTOR
PRESCRIBER AND EVEN TRAVELED TO
MEXICO TO BUY DRUGS WITHOUT A
PRESCRIPTION.
AS THE PRESSURES WOULD
MOUNT, THE MORE I WOULD TAKE,
JUST SO I COULD FEEL NORMAL
AGAIN, SO I COULD FEEL LIKE I
COULD DO MY JOB.
HIS WIFE KARMA KNEW
SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
THERE WAS GUILT AND SHAME
BUT I WAS SO SAD ABOUT WHAT I
HAD PUT CARMEN THROUGH.
JOE AND CARMEN GOT
TOGETHER EVERY YEAR TO
CELEBRATE THE WIVES' BIRTHDAYS,
ONE YEAR, JOE WAS SO HIGH ON
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, HE WAS
INCOHERENT.
JOE?
JOE?
I WAS STUMBLING AND FALLING
DOWN HAVING TO HAVE TO BE KIND
OF HELD UP, OBLIVIOUS TO REALLY
HOW SEVERE AND HOW BAD THINGS
HAD GOTTEN.
THE DRUG ABUSE EVENTUALLY
COST HIM HIS JOB.
AT THE PEAK OF HIS CAREER, HE
WAS FIRED.
HOWARD CAME OVER TO HAVE A
SERIOUS CONVERSATION WITH JOE.
HE SIMPLY SAID TO ME, YOU
NEED TO GET HELP, YOU'VE GOT TO
GO SOME PLACE AND GET HELP, YOU
HAVE TO GO TO WHATEVER
PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, YOU HAVE
TO GET HELP WITH THIS
DEPRESSION AND GET WHATEVER
THIS STUFF IS AND TAKE IT OUT,
GET IT OUT OF YOU AND I SIMPLY
SAID, I'LL DO THAT
THEN CARMEN FOUND JOE'S
STASH OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS
DEEP INSIDE, I WAS GLAD SHE
FOUND IT BECAUSE IT BROUGHT AN
END TO IT.
JOE AGREED TO CHECK HIMSELF
INTO A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL.
I FELT LIKE I HAD FAILED,
FAILED AT LIFE, THE ULTIMATE
FAILURE, AT LIFE, I WAS NEVER
GOING TO BE THAT GUY THAT MY
DAD SAID HE COULD BE PROUD OF
BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO GO CHECK
INTO A PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL
WITH DEPRESSION AND I WAS THE
BIGGEST FAILURE OF MY LIFE.
THE DAY BEFORE HE WAS
ADMITTED, ANOTHER FRIEND PAID
JOE A VISIT.
HE WAS SAYING I'M SURE THERE
IS SOME GOOD THAT CAN COME OUT
OF THIS HOSPITAL THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO, BUT I CANNOT JUST SIT
BACK AND LET YOU THINK THAT
SOME METHOD OF SAVING YOURSELF
IS THE ANSWER.
HE SAID, THERE'S ONE SOLUTION
FOR WHAT IT IS THAT YOU NEED
AND HE SAID, IT'S A
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST,
AND I SAID, OKAY, YOU KNOW, HOW
DO I HAVE THAT?
AND HE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO
PRAY, AND WE'RE GOING TO PRAY
THIS PRAYER WHERE YOU'RE GOING
TO ACCEPT JESUS AS YOUR LORD
AND AS YOUR SAVIOR, AND WE DID
THAT.
THE MOST INCREDIBLE SENSE OF
PEACE AND JOY AND JUST THIS
CALMNESS JUST FELT LIKE IT WAS
FILLING MY BODY, THAT IT WAS
BEING POURED INTO ME LIKE COOL
WATER JUST BEING POURED INTO ME
AND IT FELT LIKE IT WENT DOWN
TO THE BOTTOMS OF MY FEET AND
STARTED TO FILL ME AND FILL ME
AND FILL ME UNTIL IT GOT TO THE
POINT WHERE IT FELT LIKE I WAS
OVERFLOWING WITH IT.
IT WAS FLOWING OUT OF ME AND
OUT OF MY PORES, THIS ABSOLUTE
PURE JOY.
JOE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED
THE PROGRAM IN THE HOSPITAL AND
WHEN HE GOT HOME, HIS
ENTHUSIASM FOR HIS NEWFOUND
FAITH WAS STRONGER, HE FINALLY
FOUND ACCEPTANCE THREW --
THROUGH CHRIST.
I COULD BE ANYWHERE FILLED
WITH JOY, I COULD BE SITTING IN
TRAFFIC FILLED WITH JOY.
HE WROTE A BOOK, THE FULL
FISHERMAN, HIS BOOK HELPED HIM
LAUNCH A NEW CAREER AS A
MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER.
FOR PEOPLE THAT SAY THIS
ISN'T POSSIBLE FOR THEM BECAUSE
OF THEIR PAST, BECAUSE OF THEIR
BAGGAGE, THAT THEIR LIFE IS TOO
MESSY, I KNOW WHAT THAT FEELS
LIKE, THAT WAS ME.
I'VE BEEN THERE.
WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST, I WOULD
BE LOST, I WOULD BE LIVING A
LIFE OF JUST ABSOLUTE STRUGGLE
TO FIND ANY PURPOSE, TO FIND
ANY MEANING.
I AM A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
PURPOSE WITH JESUS CHRIST IN MY
LIFE.
I CAN SAY THE SAME THING AS
JOE, I AM A COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT PERSON WITH JESUS
CHRIST IN MY LIFE, FOR EVERY
ONE OF US HERE AT THE 700 CLUB
CANADA, YOUR JOURNEYS HAVE
BROUGHT TOWS THE KNOWLEDGE THAT
LIFE IS EMPTY WITHOUT JESUS,
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE
STRUGGLING WITH DRUG ADDICTION,
TRYING TO STAY CLEAN ONE DAY AT
A TIME, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR
YOU TO KNOW THAT BILL W., THE
MAN WHO ORIGINALLY WROTE THE
STEPS WROTE THEM WITH GOD AND NT
THE HIGHER POWER THAT IS NOW US,
THE THINGS THAT ARE TAUGHT IN
EACH MEETING IS POWERFUL, BILL
W. HAD COME TO THE END OF
HIMSELF AND HE CRIED OUT ONE
NIGHT, HE SAID I'LL DO ANYTHING
AT ALL, IF THERE BE A GOD, LET
HIM SHOW HIMSELF, GOD
MIRACULOUSLY SHOWED UP AS BILL
SAW A BRIGHT LIGHT AND AN
INCREDIBLE FEELING OF SERENITY
SETTLED OVER HIM, HE NEVER
DRANK AGAIN FOR THE REMAINDER
OF HIS LIFE, DARREN SILK WORD
SAID SOMETHING HAS HAPPENED TO
YOU, I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT
YOU HAD BETTER HANG ON TO
IT, SOMETIMES JESUS IS JUST A
LIFE RAFT, BILL W. NEVER WENT
BACK ON HIS BELIEVE THAT THE
ONLY WAY HE WAS ABLE TO STAY
SOBER WAS BY HAVING A SPIRITUAL
ENCOUNTER WITH GOD, JOE FOUND
THE TRUE POWER THAT BILL W.
ALSO FOUND IN KNOWING JESUS, IF
THIS IS SPEAKING TO YOUR HEART
TODAY, WOULD YOU DO US A FAVOR
AND ALLOW YOUR HEART TO BE OPEN
TO THE POWER OF GOD IN YOUR
LIFE.
HE IS THE WAY, HE IS THE TRUTH
AND HE IS THE LIFE AND HE IS
THE ANSWER TO ANY ADDICTION AND
ANY PROBLEM THAT YOU'RE FACING.
ABSOLUTELY, AND YOU KNOW,
LAURA LYNN, YOU ARE SO RIGHT
ABOUT THE GREAT BOOK AS WELL,
SAM CLANS SI SAID SOMETHING,
HEAVEN IS LIKE A NEW PAIR OF
GLASSES, I BELIEVE IT IS A NEW
PAIR OF GLASSES BECAUSE YOU
START SEEING THINGS COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT, YOU LIKE BILL W. AND
LIKE SO MANY, YOU SEE THE
FATHER THE WAY YOU SHOULD SEE
THE FATHER AND THAT'S THROUGH
THE LIGHT AND THE LENS OF HIS
SON.
IF YOU'RE SAYING, I NEED THAT
IN MY LIFE TODAY, I WANT TO
INVITE YOU, GOD CAME TO A MAN
CAME NICK VENUS IN THE BIBLE
AND HE SAID, UNLESS YOU ARE
BORN AGAIN, YOU WILL NOT SEE
THE KINGDOM OF GOD, UNLESS YOU
ARE BORN OF THE WATER, THE KING
OF GOD IS MORE ABOUT A
PERCEPTION BEFORE A
PROGRESSION, LET'S GO SOME
BUSINESS WITH GOD.
THE BIBLE SAYS YOU WILL CONFESS
WITH YOUR MOUTH THAT JESUS IS
[INAUDIBLE] USUAL BE SAVED.
SO, WHOEVER CALLS ON THE NAME
OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED, ARE
YOU READY TO CALL ON THE NAME
OF THE LORD?
LET'S GET THOSE NEW GLASSES,
OPEN UP THOSE HANDS, NOW CLOSE
THOSE HANDS, AFTER YOU OPEN
THEM UP, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE
A NEW LIFE, SAY THIS PRAYER,
JESUS, WOULD YOU SAVE ME, I
CONFESS MY SIN, YES, I AM
POWERLESS TO HELP MYSELF,
POWERLESS TO IMPROVE MY
CIRCUMSTANCES, AND I ASK YOU TO
SAVE ME, COME INTO MY LIFE AND
BE MY LORD AND SAVIOR IN JESUS
NAME, AMEN.
AMEN.
IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T
HANDLE YOUR LIFE BY YOURSELF
ANYMORE, GIVE US A CALL, WE
HAVE AN ANSWER THAT WE'RE READY
TO SHARE WITH YOU,
1-855-759-0700.
HEY, WELCOME TO THIS HOPE TO
GO, WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON THE
SERIES CALM DOWN BECAUSE IF YOU
DON'T CALM DOWN, YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE A BREAK DOWN, WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT PILOTING THROUGH
LIFE'S PROBLEMS.
WELCOME TO THIS HOPE TO GO,
WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON THREE
SERIES OF CALM DOWN, TODAY
WE'RE FOCUSING ON PROBLEMS IN
LIFE, STUMBLING BLOCKS,
STEPPINGSTONES, THEY COME TO
PERFECT US, LISTEN TO WHAT
[INAUDIBLE] SAYS AND DO NOT
[INAUDIBLE] BUT KNOWING THAT
TRIBULATION IS WORKING PATIENCE
AND EXPERIENCE HOPE, PROBLEMS
WHEN THE APTITUDE BIBLICAL AS
CHARACTER BUILDERS, GOD IS FAR
MORE INTERESTED IN YOUR
CHARACTER THAN YOUR COMFORT,
YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO GOD AND
YOUR CHARACTER ARE THE ONLY TWO
THINGS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO
TAKE WITH YOU INTO ETERNITY,
APOSTLE PAUL EMPHASIZED THIS IN
ROMAN 28, AND WE KNOW ALL
THINGS WORK TOGETHER FOR THE
GOOD OF THOSE THAT WORK WITH
GOD, SAY THIS WITH ME, YOU
KNOW, THE GRADUATE DEGREE OF
THE CHRISTIAN DISCIPLESHIP
COMES FROM ATTENDING THE
UNIVERSITY OF HARD KNOX, IT
ALSO PROJECTS US, MY
IMPRISONMENT HERE HAS HAD THE
OPPOSITE OF ITS INTENDED
EFFECT, THE MESSAGE HAS
PROSPERED, ALL THE SOLDIERS
HERE AND EVERYONE ELSE TO FIND
OUT THAT I AM IN JAIL BECAUSE
OF THIS MESSIAH OF CURIOSITY
AND NOW THEY'VE LEARNED ALL
ABOUT HIM, NOT ONLY THAT BUT
MOST OF THE FOLLOWERS HERE OF
JESUS HAS BECOME FAR MORE SURE
OF THEMSELVES, SPEAKING OUT
FEARLESSLY ABOUT GOD, ABOUT THE
MESSIAH, GOD'S CARS, THERE IS
A SAYING, FOR GOD TO MAKE
MANIFEST AND FACT THAT HE GIVES
A PSALM IN THE NIGHT, HE MUST
FIRST MAKE THE NIGHT.
OUCH.
IT'S NOT THE BURDENS OF LIFE,
IT'S HOW WE HANDLE THEM, ISAIAH
40: 31, THE WEIGHT UPON THE
LORD SHALL RENEW THEIR
STRENGTH, THEY SHALL WALK AND
NOT GROW FEET, GOD IS AT WORK
IN YOUR LIFE EVEN IF YOU DON'T
RECOGNIZE IT AND UNDERSTAND IT,
SOMEBODY HAS SAID THIS, A
WISE PERSON, FOR GOD HAS WALKED
EACH DAY AND NUMBERED EACH
SEQUENCE AND HEAVEN'S LONG AGES
OF BLISS SHALL PAY FOR ALL HIS
CHILDREN SUFFERED HERE, THOSE
WHO GO THROUGH FIRE, WATER
SHOULD REMEMBER IT'S GOD'S WAY
OF PROTECTING YOU FROM ALL
THOSE THINGS, TODAY LET IT
PERFECT YOU AND PROJECT YOU AND
THAT IS YOUR HOPE TO GO.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS GROWING
UP, I WENT TO THIS HIGH SCHOOL,
WE HAD A PRINCIPAL, HIS NAME
WAS BOB WAGER, HE WENT ON AND
ON ABOUT CHARACTER, BY GRADE
12, WE WERE TIRED OF HEARING
ABOUT CHARACTER, CHARACTER
THIS, CHARACTER THAT, IT'S
IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT YOUR
CHARACTER IS, INTEGRITY, I
DIDN'T GET IT AT THAT TIME, IT
WAS MANY YEARS LATER WHEN I
SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, MR. WAGER,
HE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT HE WAS
TALKING ABOUT, LISTEN TO WHAT
FIRST CORINTHIANS THREE SAYS,
IT WILL BE SHOWN FOR WHAT IT
IS, IT WILL BE REVEALED WITH
FIRE AND THE FIRE WILL TEST AND
CRITICALLY APPRAISE THE
CHARACTER AND THE WORK OF EACH
PERSON.
IT'S IMPORTANT WHAT YOUR
CHARACTER IS.
UP NEXT, EVOLUTION VERSUS
CREATION, PART II.
IT'S NOT THAT EVOLUTION IS A
THEORY IN THE SENSE THAT MAY OR
MAY NOT BE TRUE, IT'S A THEORY
IN THE SENSE OF -- I DON'T KNOW
THE EXACT DEFINITION, BUT THE
WAY OF --
BUT IT'S A THEORY IN THAT IT
WAS DARWIN SORT OF TRYING TO
EXPLAIN THE WORLD WITHOUT A
GOD, AND ON HIS DEATH BED, YOU
PROBABLY KNOW THIS, HE SAID, IF
THE FOSSIL RECORD DOES NOT
SUPPORT THIS THEORY, THEN THIS
AIN'T IT, FIND
SOMETHING ELSE
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THE FOSSIL RECORD DOES NOT
SUPPORT EVOLUTION.
THAT'S NOT TRUE.
I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON
EVOLUTION, I CAN'T TELL YOU,
BUT I'M POSITIVE IT'S TRUE THAT
WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS NOT TRUE,
THAT THE FOSSIL RECORD DOES NOT
--
HAVE YOU SEEN -- STUDIED
THAT
YES, I HAVE STUDIED BIOLOGY.
AND WHAT FOSSILS THEN
REFLECT THAT EVOLUTION IS TRUE?
THERE'S SO MANY LIKE EVEN THE
RECORD SHOWS THAT
INSTANTANEOUSLY, ANIMALS AND
INSECTS APPEARING.
OKAY, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF
MISSING EVIDENCE FOR SURE.
A LOT OF MISSING EVIDENCE.
YES, BECAUSE YOU KNOW HOW
THE FOSSILS ARE FORMED, YOU
NEED A CERTAIN CONDITION, YOU
NEED A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE.
SO, YOU THINK THERE'S NONE
THERE EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A LOT
OF FOSSILS BUT THERE'S
NO EVIDENCE OF TRANSITIONAL --
ACTUALLY, TRANSITIONAL
FOSSILS
BUT NOT FROM ONE ANIMAL TO A
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT --
I GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, I
KNOW TWO PROFESSORS, THEY LIVE
ON THIS ISLAND, THEY'RE
STUDYING A ONE SPECIES OF BIRD
FOR 30 YEARS CONTINUOUSLY AND
THIS ONE SPECIES OF BIRD DUE TO
CLIMATE CHANGE ARE DIVIDED INTO
[INAUDIBLE].
BUT THEY DIDN'T BECOME A
GIRAFFE, THEY ARE STILL A BIRD,
RIGHT?
I'M JUST SAYING 30 YEARS,
YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE.
THERE'S SPECIATION, AND THOSE
TWO GROUPS OF BIRDS BECOME
TOTALLY DIFFERENT SPECIES, I'M
JUST TALKING ABOUT 30 YEARS.
WHAT ABOUT A MILLION YEARS?
WHAT ABOUT TEN MILLION YEARS?
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
YES.
SO, NO CHANCE THAT YOU'RE OPEN
TO JUST --
ARE YOU OPEN TO EVOLUTION?
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU CAN
BACK UP EVOLUTION
SCIENTIFICALLY, AND SO I'M NOT
OPEN TO EVOLUTION WHEN I
BELIEVE THERE'S A GOD.
SO, WE'RE OPEN TO EVOLUTION,
NOT OPEN TO GOD.
IF GOD WERE TO REVEAL
HIMSELF TO YOU, WOULD YOU
BELIEVE?
IF I HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH IT
AND IF I'M BACKED UP WITH IT, I
WILL BELIEVE.
WELL, I THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR YOUR AUTHENTIC AND REAL --
THIS WAS A TOUGH CONVERSATION,
WASN'T IT?
IT WAS A LITTLE TOUGH, AND YET
YOU JUST KEPT BEING HONEST WITH
ME AND I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND
I PRAY THAT IF THERE IS A GOD,
HE WOULD REVEAL HIMSELF?
IF THERE ISN'T A GOD, WHO CARES
ANYWAYS, RIGHT?
RIGHT.
WELL, THAT WAS FUN AND I AM
JUST GRATEFUL THAT THOSE --
THAT COUPLE ON THE BEACH,
THEY'VE BEEN DATING FOR A WHILE
AND THEY WERE WILLING TO SHARE
THEIR AFTERNOON WITH ME AND
SHARE THEIR POINTS OF VIEW,
IT'S REALLY TOUGH, YOU KNOW
WHAT, BRIAN, I WANT TO BELIEVE
THAT I WAS CREATED FOR A GREAT
PURPOSE.
I DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE THAT I
JUST SORT OF EVOLVED, YOU KNOW,
FROM AN APE, I JUST DON'T WANT
TO BELIEVE THAT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH HAIR, I
JUST WANT TO BELIEVE THAT I WAS
CREATED FOR SOMETHING
MEANINGFUL AND POWERFUL.
WELL, I THINK THE REALITY
IS, YOU KNOW, WE RISE AND FALL
ON WHAT WE BELIEVE, SO EVERYONE
HAS A RIGHT TO WHAT THEY
BELIEVE, GOD HAS GIVEN US A
RESPONSIBILITY AND THAT IS TO
LIFT UP THE LIGHT AND LIFT UP
CHRIST, I'M THE WAY TO THE
TRUTH AND THE LIGHT SO WE
BELIEVE THAT SINCERELY.
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