WHAT IF YOU COULD PAY OFF
MORE THAN $5,000 WORTH OF
DEBT IN JUST 90 DAYS.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THOUSANDS
OF ORDINARY AMERICANS HAVE
DONE JUST THAT WITH THE HELP
OF FINANCIAL EXPERT DAVE
RAMSEY.
TAKE A LOOK.
UNCHAIN WALL STREET.
THEY'RE GOING TO PUT YOU ALL
BACK IN CHAINS.
Reporter: AS POLITICAL
RHETORIC HEATS UP --
THIS IS WHAT AN ANGRY AND
DESPERATE PRESIDENCY LOOKS
LIKE.
Reporter: AND
CANDIDATES AND PRESIDENTIAL
HOPEFULS POINT FINGERS OVER
THE DEBT CRISIS, DAVE RAMSEY
SUGGESTS THAT MAYBE AMERICAN
VOTERS SHOULD REDIRECT THE
FINGER AT THEMSELVES.
HE SAYS IT IS NOT JUST
WASHINGTON THAT IS
OVERSPENDING.
THE AVERAGE AMERICAN SPENDS
AND BA BORROWS MORE THAN
THEY CAN AFFORD. IT HAS LED
TO THE MORTGAGE CRISIS, THE
CREDIT CARD DEBT, AND THE
NEWEST BUBBLE, STUDENT LOAN
DEBT.
ENTER DAVE RAMSAY.
THE "NEW YORK TIMES"
BEST-SELLING AUTHOR IS
RELEASING A REVISED AND
UPDATED EDITION OF HIS
FINANCIAL PIECE UNIVERSITY.
THE NINE-WEEK COURSE THAT
HAS EQUIPPED THOUSANDS OF
FAMILIES WITH PRACTICAL
TOOLS AND SOUND BIBLICAL
PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE LIFTED
THEM OUT OF DEBT AND HELPED
THEM SECURE THEIR PERSONAL
FINANCIAL FUTURE.
Pat: I'M HOLDING IN MY
HAND A VERY HEAVY BOX.
IT IS CALLED "FINANCIAL
PEACE."
DAVE RAMSAY IS HERE.
TELL US ABOUT FINANCIAL
PEACE UNIVERSITY.
THANK YOU, PAT.
FINANCIAL PEACE UNIVERSITY
IS WHERE WE'VE GONE INTO
CHURCHES ALL ACROSS AMERICA,
18,000 CLASSES TAUGHT THIS
YEAR WITH THIS NEW VERSION,
IT IS NINE WEEKS OF HOW TO
HANDLE MONEY GOD'S AND
GRANDMA'S WAYS.
AND IT TURNS OUT GOD IS A
PRETTY SMART FELLOW.
Pat: OKAY, YOU'VE GOT
SEVEN BABY STEPS TO FINAL
PEACE.
GIVE US A COUPLE OF THEM.
FOLKS HAVE TO HAVE A
LADDER TO CLIMB.
YOU NEED TO VERY CLEARLY
OUTLINE EACH RUNG OF THE
LADDER.
BABY STEP ONE, YOU PUT
$1,000 CASH IN THE BANK.
AND JUST GET A LITTLE
STARTER, RAINY DAY FUND.
THE BIBLE SAYS, "IN THE
HOUSE OF THE WISE ARE STORES
OF CHOICE FOOD AND OIL."
AND WE'RE GOING TO LIST ALL
OF OUR DEBTS, EXCEPT OUR
HOUSE, SMALLEST TO LARGEST
AND ATTACK THOSE DEBTS.
GET EXCITED.
GET INTENSE.
GET FOCUSED.
SELL SO MUCH STUFF, THE KIDS
THINK THEY'RE NEXT.
GET ON FIRE ABOUT GETTING
OUT OF DEBT.
YOU'VE GOT TO MOVE THE
NEEDLE AND GET WITH IT.
AND KNOW THAT MASTERCARD IS
NAMED THAT FOR A REASON.
WE'RE GOING TO GET RID OF
THAT STUFF AND HAVE A
"PLASECTOMY."
AND IN BABY STEP THREE, WE
GO BACK TO THE $1,000, AND
RAISE IT UP TO A FULL FUND.
AND FOUR, START INVESTING
FOUR OUR RETIREMENT.
FIVE IS KIDS' COLLEGE, AND
SIX IS PAY OFF THE HOUSE.
YOU'RE DEBT-FREE, YOUR
RETIREMENT IS DONE, AND NOW
YOU BECOME WEALTHY AND YOU
GIVE LIKE CRAZY.
THIS IS WHEN YOU REALLY TURN
UP THE BURNER ON THE
GIVING.
Pat: THAT IS NIRVANA.
THE BUDDHISTS WOULD LOVE
THAT.
THAT IS PEACE.
HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET
SOMEBODY OUT OF DEBT?
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW
INTENSE THEY'RE WILLING TO
BE AND HOW PASSIONATE THEY
ARE.
THE MORE HOPEFUL AND
PASSIONATE YOU ARE, THE
DEEPER YOU WILL SACRIFICE.
THERE IS A DIRECT
CORRELATION BETWEEN HOW DEEP
YOU SACRIFICE AND HOW FAST
YOU GET OUT OF DEBT.
THE AVERAGE FAMILY WE'RE
COACHING IS DEBT-FREE IN 18
TO 24 MONTHS, NOT COUNTING
THEIR HOMES, AND THEY'RE
PAYING OFF THEIR HOMES
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN SEVEN TO
10 YEARS.
Pat: DAVID, WHAT IS IT
WE'RE DOING WRONG IN
AMERICA?
YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE KIDS,
I'M SURE, BUT WHAT DO YOU
DO?
I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING
IS WE'RE NOT PAYING
ATTENTION.
THE BIBLE SAYS, "WHERE THERE
IS NO VISION, THE PEOPLE
PERISH."
AND WHEN YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE
"THANK GOD ITS FRIDAY AND
OH, GOD IT'S MONDAY."
YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT 10
YEARS OR 15 OR 20 YEARS OUT,
AND YOU MAKE REALLY BAD,
IMPULSIVE DECISIONS.
I'M THE SAY WAY.
I CAN, TOO.
BUT IF YOU'LL THINK ABOUT
WHERE IT IS TAKING YOU, AND
PUT A WHOLE NOBELITY ISSUE
OVER YOUR MONEY, MEANING I'M
GOING TO MANAGE MONEY FOR
THE GOOD OF MY FAMILY, TO
CHANGE MY FAMILY TREE, A
GOOD MAN LEAVES AN
INHERITANCE TO HIS
CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.
AND WHEN YOU THINK THAT WAY
YOU MAKE BETTER DECISIONS.
Pat: COLLEGE LOANS,
$1 TRILLION.
STUDENTS ARE IN DEBT.
YOU'VE GOT THE UNIVERSITY OF
PHOENIX, JUST TO NAME ONE.
THEY'VE GOT PEOPLE UP TO
THEIR EYEBALLS IN DEBT, AND
THEY'RE PROMISING THEM THE
END OF THE RAINBOW.
WHAT DO YOU DO WITH PEOPLE?
YOU'VE EVEN GOT AN AD ABOUT
MITT ROMNEY TALKING ABOUT
BORROW MONEY FROM YOUR FOLKS
TO GO GET AN EDUCATION.
WHAT ABOUT THAT?
I THINK IT IS OUT OF
CONTROL.
HONESTLY, THE RESEARCH WE
HAVE DONE, AND I'VE GOT MY
THIRD CHILD IN COLLEGE RIGHT
NOW SO I'VE PERSONALLY
EXPERIENCED IT, IS THAT THE
AVERAGE COLLEGE STUDENT CAN
GO TO THE AVERAGE IN-STATE
SCHOOL, IF THAT'S ALL THEY
CAN AFFORD, AND ACTUALLY PAY
CASH BY WORKING.
I KNOW IT IS A WEIRD IDEA,
AND IT KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE
CHILD ABUSE, BUT WORKING IS
A NEAT THING FOR KIDS TO DO
WHILE THEY'RE IN COLLEGE.
THE AVERAGE TUITION IS ABOUT
$7,000, AND THE DORM ROOM
AND DORM FOOD IS ANOTHER
$7,000, AND BOOKS AND SO
FORTH, SO SOMEWHERE AROUND
$10,000, $15,000, YOU CAN GO
TO SCHOOL.
PART OF THIS IS A LACK OF
PARENTING.
PARENTS NEED TO LOVE THEIR
CHILDREN WELL ENOUGH TO
GUIDE THEM TO A SCHOOL THEY
CAN AFFORD.
Pat: NOT HARVARD AT 70
GRAND A YEAR.
AGAIN, IF YOU CAN AFFORD
IT.
I'M FINE WITH GOING WHEREVER
YOU WANT TO GO.
BUT THE DEFINITION OF AFFORD
IT IS BE ABLE TO AFFORD IT
IN CASH.
Pat: YOU TALK ABOUT
DRIVING THREE CARS FOR
LIFE?
HOW DO YOU GET IT?
THE PROBLEM WITH CARS IS
WE ALL LOVE THEM.
I'M A BOY, AND I HAVE TO
ADMIT WE LOVE CARS.
THE AVERAGE CAR PAYMENT
RIGHT NOW IN AMERICA IS $486
OVER 82 MONTHS.
IF YOU WERE TO INVEST $486
IN A DECENT ROTH-I.R.A.,
YOU'LL HAVE $5.6 MILLION IN
THAT MUTUAL FUND.
I HOPE YOU LIKE THE CAR.
OH, MY GOODNESS, THIS IS
CRAZY.
YOU CANNOT DO THIS.
SO INSTEAD DO WHAT
GRANDMOTHER SAID TO DO, TAKE
THE $486 AND PUT IT IN A
COOKIE JAR.
IN 10 MONTHS, YOU'LL HAVE
$5,000.
I'M FROM TENNESSEE, AND FOR
$5,000, I CAN FIND A PRETTY
GOOD CAR TO GET ME BACK AND
FORTH TO SCHOOL.
THE INTEREST IN THE GROWTH
OF THAT MONEY WILL BUY YOUR
CARS FOR LIFE.
Pat: THAT'S A GOOD
PLAN.
I REMEMBER SEEING A GUY THAT
WORKED FOR LYNNE
BROADCASTING, AND HE SAID I
WANT TO SHOW YOU $1,000 -- I
MEAN A MILLION DOLLAR SUIT
OF FURNITURE.
AND PEOPLE SAID A MILLION
DOLLARS.
AND HE SAID THAT'S THE STOCK
THAT I SOLD IN MY COMPANY TO
BUY THIS STUFF.
IT'S NOW WORTH A MILLION
DOLLARS.
AND THIS IS A MILLION-DOLLAR
LIVING ROOM.
EXACTLY.
WHEN PEOPLE ARE THINKING
SHORT-TERM THEY MAKE BAD
DECISIONS.
Pat: HOW CAN THE
VIEWERS FIND THE BIGGEST
BARGAINS?
WHERE DO THEY LOOK FOR
THEM?
BARGAINS ARE EVERYWHERE.
WE'VE GOT
CRAIGSLIST, eBAY, AND
THERE IS ELECTRONIC
COUPONING.
THE BIG THING IS TO STOP AND
THINK, EVER OTHER COUNTRY IN
THE WORLD, YOU BARGAIN TO
BUY EVERYTHING.
ONLY IN AMERICA DO WE BUY A
LEASED CAR WITH CREDIT CARD
GAS IN IT, AND WE GO FOR A
SALE.
GO IN AND ASK FOR A
BARGAIN.
Pat: KRISTI HAS SOME
QUESTIONS FOR YOU, DAVE.
I DO.
AND I LOVE THIS.
JANE SAYS, "MY HUSBAND AND I
ARE BOTH IN OUR EARLY
50s.
MY HUSBAND THINKS THE
ECONOMY IS ABOUT TO CRASH.
SO HE WANTS TO CASH OUT HIS
401 RETIREMENT ACCOUNT, PAY
THE PENALTY AND USE THE
MONEY TO PAY OFF OUR
MORTGAGE, WHICH IS
APPROXIMATELY $80,000.
IS THAT A GOOD IDEA?"
IF THE ECONOMY CRASHES,
THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I'M NOT IN AGREEMENT THAT
THE ECONOMY IS GOING TO
CRASH.
I THINK WE HAVE SERIOUS
CHALLENGES, AND THIS
ELECTION COMING UP IS PART
OF THAT.
THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT
FEAR IS FRUIT OF THE
DECISION.
IF YOU MAKE DECISIONS BASED
ON FEAR, YOU'RE GOING TO
MAKE BAD DECISIONS.
CASHING YOUR 401K, ABOUT A
40% HIT ON YOUR MONEY TO PAY
OFF YOUR MORTGAGE IS A BAD
IDEA.
QUICK ANSWER, NO.
Kristi: NEXT QUESTION,
MIKE WRITES, "I HAVE ABOUT
$10,000 IN UNSECURED CREDIT
CARD DEBT.
I'M THINKING ABOUT GETTING A
DEAD CONSOLIDATION LOAN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
I THINK YOU CAN'T BORROW
YOUR WAY OUT OF DEBT.
I THINK YOU NEED TO GET ON A
TIGHT BUDGET AND GET AN
EXTRA JOB.
MY GRANDMOTHER USED TO SAY
THERE IS A GREAT WAY TO GET
OUT OF DEBT, IT'S CALLED
WORK.
MARTHA SAYS, "I'M LIVING
PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, SO
WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO BUILD
UP THAT EMERGENCY
CASHFLOW?"
STAY OUT OF THE
RESTAURANTS AND GET YOURSELF
ON A REALLY TIGHT BUDGET
AND, AGAIN, GO BACK TO THE
GARAGE SALE.
CONTINUING TO DO THE SAME
THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN
AND EXPECTING A DIFFERENT
RESULT IS THE DEFINITION OF
INSANITY.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHERE YOU
ARE, WITH GREAT FOCUS AND
PASSION, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE
WHAT YOU DO.
SO FAR YOU'VE BEEN SOWING
ONE THING AND IT'S NOT
WORKING, SOW SOMETHING
ELSE.
Pat: LET ME ASK YOU
ABOUT THIS FINANCIAL PEACE
UNIVERSITY.
HOW DO YOU SIGN UP?
THERE ARE ABOUT 5,000,
6,000 CLASSES BEING TAUGHT,
CHEQUE OUR WEBSITE AT
DAVERAMSEY.COM.
Pat: DAVERAMSEY.COM.
YOU'RE TERRIFIC.
COME BACK AGAIN, PLEASE.
THANK YOU, PAT.
IT'S AN HONOR TO BE WITH
YOU.