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700 Club Interactive: Atheism on Attack - August 30, 2012

Activist and President of the Catholic League Bill Donohue tackles the current debate between atheism and religion. Read Transcript


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[APPLAUSE]

Gordon: WELL, WELCOME

TO "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

IT MAY NOT BE ONE FOUGHT

WITH GUNS AND TANKS, BUT

MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THERE IS

A WAR GOING ON IN AMERICA.

ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE THOSE

WHO WANT TO EXERCISE THEIR

FREEDOM OF WORSHIP, AND ON

THE OTHER, YOU HAVE THOSE

WHO ARE TRYING TO SCRUB ANY

FORM OF RELIGIOUS DISPLAY

FROM PUBLIC LIFE.

OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THE

FIGHTING HAS BEEN GETTING

MORE INTENSE, AND ONE SIDE

SEEMS TO BE GETTING

STRONGER.

Reporter: IN A RECENT

STUDY, THE NUMBER OF

AMERICANS WHO SAY THEY ARE

RELIGIOUS IS ON THE

DECLINE.

FROM 73% IN 2005 TO 60%

TODAY.

NOT SURPRISING, THE NUMBER

OF ATHEISTS HAS RISEN DURING

THAT SAME TIME SPAN, AND

THEY'VE GOTTEN MORE VOCAL.

SOME HAVE RELEASED

ANTIRELIGIOUS BOOKS.

IN 2005, ONE-EIGHTH THEIST

WEIGHED IN ON THE EVOLUTION

VERSUS THE RELIGIOUS

BELIEF.

HE THINKS ALL BELIEFS SHOULD

BE DISCUSSED, INCLUDING THE

THEORY THAT THE WORLD WAS

CREATE BY A SPAGHETTI

MONSTER.

MOST RECENTLY, THE GROUP

"AMERICAN ATHEISTS," HAS

ERECTED A BILLBOARD POKING

FUN AT THE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS

OF BOTH CANDIDATES.

Gordon: JOINING US NOW,

VIA SKYPE, IS BILL DONAHUE,

THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK

"SECULAR SABOTAGE."

BILL, THANK YOU FOR BEING

WITH US.

THANK YOU SO MUCH,

GORDON.

Gordon: WHY DO YOU

THINK THE ATHEIST MOVEMENT

HAS BECOME MORE VOCAL?

IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT

THEY SAY, AND I THINK

THEY'RE ONLY BEING PARTIALLY

TRUE, AND THEY WILL SAY THAT

THE CATALYST WAS THE 9/11

EVENT.

ON THAT FATEFUL DAY, OF

COURSE, THE TWIN TOWERS WENT

DOWN, AND THE ATTACK ON THE

PENTAGON, AND THE PLANE THAT

WENT DOWN IN PENNSYLVANIA.

WE DO KNOW THEY WERE RADICAL

MUSLIM MEN WHO DID THIS, AND

THEY WERE SCREAMING ALLAH,

ALLAH.

INSTEAD OF ATTACKING MAYBE

MUSLIMS, AND I WOULDN'T WANT

PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE AND

WILLY-NILLY ATTACK ANYBODY,

MUSLIMS, INCLUDED, BUT WHAT

THEY DID, THESE ATHEISTS,

ATTACKED CHRISTIANITY.

THEY USED THIS IDEA THAT

RELIGION IN ITS EXTREME AS A

FOIL TO ATTACK CHRISTIANITY

INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER

ISLAMISTS.

IF YOU NEED ANY PROOF, TAKE

A LOOK AT THE BILLBOARDS

THEY WANTED TO PUT UP IN

CHARLOTTE AND TAMPA.

THEY DIDN'T ATTACK JEWS.

THEY HAVE TOO MUCH RESPECT

FOR JEWS.

THEY DIDN'T ATTACK ISLAM.

NO, THEY HAVE TOO MUCH FEAR

ABOUT MUSLIMS.

SO THEY WENT AGAINST

MORMONS, AND THEN THEY WENT

FOR THE BULL'S EYE.

THEY WENT FOR CHRISTIANITY.

WE'RE THE HATE-FILLED

RELIGION, AND THAT'S WHY

THEY SAY WE WORSHIP A SAT

SADISTIC GOD.

Gordon: AFTER 9/11, I

HEARD THINGS LIKE CHRISTIAN

LEADERS BEING CALLED

AYATOLLAHS, AND THE PHRASE

AMERICAN TALIBAN, AND

SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THERE WAS

SOME EVIL LURKING AND

CHRISTIANS WANTED TO TAKE

OVER AMERICA.

I WAS HEARING ALL THOSE

KINDS OF ARGUMENTS.

WHY DO YOU THINK -- WAS THIS

JUST -- THERE CAN'T BE

INTELLECTUAL HONESTY IN

DOING THAT.

WHY DO YOU THINK -- IT IS

ALMOST LIKE IT IS A PRETEXT

ARGUMENT.

WELL, IT IS.

ONE OF THE DRIVING FORCES IS

THIS WILD IDEA ABOUT

SEXUALITY, LIBERALISM, WHICH

IS THE IDEA YOU CAN DO

WHATEVER YOU WANT.

THE THREE MOST DREADED WORDS

IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS

"THOU SHALT NOT," ACCORDING

TO THESE PEOPLE.

THEY WANT TO BE SEXUAL

BEINGS, AND THEY DON'T WANT

THE BABIES AND THEY DON'T

WANT THE DISEASES, SO THEY

BLAME US.

Gordon: AND I GET A

SENSE IN SOME OF THEIR

ARGUMENTS THAT THEY THINK

AMERICA WILL ENTER SOME SORT

OF UTOPIAN AGE IF WE GET RID

OF ALL RELIGION, AND

SPECIFICALLY IF WE GET RID

OF OUR CHRISTIAN HERITAGE.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SENSING

AS WELL?

THERE IS NO QUESTION

ABOUT IT.

SEE, THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN

NATURE OR IN NATURE'S GOD,

AS JEFFERSON UNDERSTOOD IN

THE DECLARATION.

THEY BELIEVE WE CAN CREATE

HUMAN NATURE ANY WAY WITH

WANT, LIKE SILLY PUTTY, AND

WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT IN

IT.

IN THE 20th CENTURY,

HITLER KILLED ABOUT

24 MILLION, AND HE WAS AN

ATHEIST.

AND YOU HAD STALIN, HAD

KILLED, AND HE WAS AN

ATHEIST, AND YOU HAD PAULA

SCOTT, WHO KILLED A THIRD OF

THE POPULATION IN CAMBODIA,

AND HE WAS AN EIGHTH

THEIST.

WER DANGEROUS -- ATHEIST.

SO WE DON'T NEED LECTURES

FROM ANYONE.

WE KNOW IT.

Gordon: THERE IS AN

INTELLECTUAL AWARENESS THAT

IF YOU TAKE MORALITY OF THE

PUBLIC SQUARE, THE STATE HAS

LICENSE TO BE IMMORAL AND

DO, LITERALLY, WHATEVER IT

WANTS TO DO.

I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ATHEIST

STATE ACT FOR THE BENEFIT OF

ITS OWN POPULATION.

YOU'LL NEVER SEE AN

ATHEIST STATE ACT TO THE

BENEFIT OF ITS OWN

POPULATION.

AND THE FIRST TOTALATARIAN

STATE IN ALL OF HISTORY WAS

THE FRENCH REVOLUTION, AND

WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

THEY ATTACKED THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH AND THE CHRISTIANS IN

GENERAL.

THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.

THEY'RE FULL OF HATE.

THEY DON'T HAVE A POSITIVE

MESSAGE.

IF THEY CAME OUT THERE AND

SAID, LISTEN, I DON'T

BELIEVE IN GOD, AND I DON'T

THINK YOU SHOULD, EITHER.

THAT'S OKAY IF THEY WANT TO

MAKE THAT ARGUMENT.

BUT THEY DEFINE THEMSELVES

BY WHAT THEY'RE NOT.

THEY'RE NOT CHRISTIANS FIRST

AND FOREMOST.

THEY SAY THEY ARE AGAINST

ALL CHRISTIANS, BUT THEY ARE

NOT.

THEY'RE AGAINST

CHRISTIANITY.

THAT'S WHY THE AMERICAN

ATHEISTS HOLD THEIR

CONVENTIONS EVERY YEAR

DURING EASTER TIME.

THEY SUFFER APOPLEXI EVERY

CHRISTMAS.

GORDON, YOU'RE LOOKING AT

THIS LOGICAL, COMMON SENSE

PERSPECTIVE, AND YOU'RE NOT

A LIAR.

I'M DEALING WITH THESE

PEOPLE, CHRISTOPHER

HITCHENS, AND THEY LIE.

SO WHEN YOU PRESS THEM ABOUT

MOTHER TERESA, ALL THEY DO

IS LIE ABOUT HER.

POPE PIUS THE 12th, THEY

LIE ABOUT HIM.

THEY LIE ABOUT JESUS.

THEY'RE NOT ETHICAL PEOPLE.

I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT

ATHEISTS IN GENERAL.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE

ACTIVISTS.

THOSE PEOPLE ARE BASICALLY

UNETHICAL.

Gordon: ONE OF THE

THINGS I LIKE ABOUT YOUR

BOOK, "SECULAR SABOTAGE,"

YOU POINT A SPOTLIGHT ON

CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS,

TO A DEGREE THE MODERN

AMERICA WE'RE LIVING IN IS

PARTLY OUR OWN FAULT.

WE SELF-SABOTAGED.

TELL US WOULD YO ABOUT

THAT.

WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE

CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY TO TURN

THE TIDE?

BY SELF-SABOTAGE, I MEAN

ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE THE

LEFT-WING CATHOLICS AND

LEFT-WING PROTESTANTS, AS

WELL AS SECULAR JEWS, AND

THEY BELIEVE IN ABORTION

RIGHTS, THEY BELIEVE IN GAY

MARRIAGE RIGHTS, THEY'RE

AGAINST SCHOOL VOUCHERS.

THEY'RE AGAINST TRADITIONAL

MORALITY.

THEY WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN.

EVANGELICAL PROTESTANTS AND

TRADITIONAL CATHOLICS AND

ORTHODOX JEWS, AND CERTAINLY

THAT WOULD INCLUDE MANY

MORMONS AND A NUMBER OF

MUSLIMS, THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE

THEIR FATE SERIOUSLY, THEY

TEND TO BE ABLE TO REACH

ACROSS THE AISLE.

I HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON

WITH YOUR VIEWING AUDIENCE

THAN I DO WITH NANCY

PELOSI.

Gordon: WELL-SAID.

ALL RIGHT.

BILL, THANKS FOR BEING WITH

US.

THANK YOU FOR THE BOOK.

IT'S CALLED "SECULAR

SABOTAGE," AND IT'S

AVAILABLE IN STORES

NATIONWIDE.

BILL, THANKS THAT ALL YOU DO

TO STAND UP FOR

CHRISTIANITY.

THANK YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Gordon: GOD BLESS YOU

MORE.

UP NEXT, THE GIRL AS THE

MOST FOUL-MOWNLMOUTHED

ATHEIST ON CAMPUS.

SEE HOW SHE GAVE HER FELLOW

STUDENTS A MESSAGE THEY'LL

NEVER FORGET.

Gordon: SHELLEYP HUNT

MAY NEVER HAD MUCH OF A

CHANCE FOR A NORMAL LIFE.

HER INNOCENCE WAS STOLEN

FROM HER WHEN SHE WAS SIX

YEARS OLD. AND AFTER THAT,

SHELLEY CARRIED A TOXIC

COMBINATION OF RAGE AND

SHAME.

IT WAS SLOWLY KILLING HER.

I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN

COLOMBIA.

IT WAS THE MURDER CAPITAL

AND DRUG CAPITAL OF THE

WHOLE WORLD.

YOU'VE GOT DRUG DEALER MONEY

AND THESE GUERRILLA GUYS

TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE

GOVERNMENT.

THE SPECIFIC TARGET WAS

MISSIONARIES.

CONSTANTLY WE WERE HEARING

OF PEOPLE KILLED.

Reporter: BUT THERE WAS

SOMETHING MORE OMINOUS THAT

THREATENED THIS MISSIONARY

CHILD.

FROM THE AGE OF 6 TO THE AGE

OF 10, SHELLEY HUNTLEY WAS

THE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ABUSE.

THE PERPETRATOR WAS A PRIEST

IN HER OWN CHURCH.

I SUFFERED IN A WAY I

REALLY CAN'T EVEN ARTICULATE

IT.

IT WAS SEXUAL ABUSE, BUT IT

HAD A SADISTIC ELEMENT, AND

JUST RAW EVIL.

Reporter: SHELLEY'S

SILENCE WAS ENFORCED THROUGH

FEAR AND LIES.

THAT WHOLE MESSAGE OF,

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE ONE

THAT IS PERVERSE, AND YOU'RE

THE ONE THAT IS MESSED UP.

THERE WAS A TERROR ELEMENT,

A SHAME ELEMENT, AND A SENSE

OF BEING TRAPPED THAT I CAN

NEVER REACH OUT TO ANYBODY.

NOBODY IS GOING TO

UNDERSTAND.

NOBODY CAN HELP ME.

WHERE I MADE THE FALSE

CONCLUSION IN MY HEART THAT

GOD HATES ME.

GOD IS WITH HIM, THE ABUSER,

AND HE IS SANGING

SANCTIONING WHAT HE IS

DOING.

Reporter: THE ABUSE

ENDED WHEN SHELLEY'S FAMILY

MOVED BACK TO THE UNITED

STATES, BUT THE DAMAGE WAS

DONE.

I'M STEPPING INTO MY

TEENAGED YEARS AS A YOUNG

WOMAN, AND YET I HAVE SUCH

DEEP SHAME ISSUES.

I REALLY TRIED TO GO FOR

GOD.

BUT THE REALITY WAS THAT

FROM THAT 10-YEAR-OLD MOMENT

WHEN I MADE THAT INTERNAL

DECISION THAT GOD HATES ME,

THAT HAD MORE POWER IN MY

INNER MAN THAN I KNEW.

Reporter: SHELLEY

IMMERSED HERSELF IN SCHOOL

ACTIVITIES AND BECAME AN

ACCOMPLISHED MUSICIAN.

DO THE SPORTS, DO THE

MUSIC, AND DO THE YOUTH

GROUP.

IN THE MIDST OF DOING IT

ALL, I WOULD WANDER AWAY BY

MYSELF AND SIT IN THE CORNER

OR CRY OR TRY TO FIGURE OUT

WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME THAT I

DON'T FEEL THE WAY THAT

OTHER PEOPLE FEEL.

Reporter: AFTER

GRADUATION, SHELLEY'S

PARENTS ENROLLED HER IN A

CHRISTIAN COLLEGE.

SHELLEY BECAME KNOWN NOT FOR

HER OUTSTANDING GRADES OR

CHARACTER, BUT AS THE MOST

FOUL-MOUTHED ATHEIST ON

CAMPUS.

PEOPLE WOULD COME UP TO

ME WELL-MEANING, OH, YOUR A

MISSIONARY KID.

THEY WOULD TALK TO ME ABOUT

JESUS, AND I WOULD CUSS THEM

UP AND DOWN.

Reporter: SHE SOUGHT

HELP.

I KNEW I WAS COMING APART

AT THE SEEMS, AND I TRIED,

BUT I WAS, LIKE, UNCOUNSELLABLE.

AND AT THIS TIME, I WAS

DOING THE CUTTING, AND

SLICING INTO MY HANDS IN A

SELF-PUNISHMENT AND

SELF-MUTILATION.

I WOULD FLY INTO RAGES AND

BREAK EVERYTHING IN MY DORM

ROOM.

I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND

THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE.

Reporter: SHELLEY BEGAN

TO FINALIZE A PLAN TO END

HER SUFFERING.

I WAS GOING TO JUMP OFF

THE ROOF, LANDING INTO THE

STONE COURTYARD, WHERE THERE

WOULD BE A HIGH VISIBILITY

OF MY DEATH.

I WAS HOPING TO DO IT ON MY

BIRTHDAY TO MAKE A STATEMENT

OF HOW UNHAPPY I WAS THAT I

EXIST.

Reporter: BUT BEFORE

SHE COULD GET TO THE

ROOF --

THIS OTHER STUDENT FROM

COLLEGE JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN

JUST STANDS IN FRONT OF ME,

BETWEEN ME AND THE FRONT

DOOR.

SHE JUST SAID, LET'S GO TO

THE BATHROOM AND WASH THAT

OFF YOUR HANDS, OKAY.

Reporter: WITH HER

SUICIDE ATTEMPT THWARTED,

SHELLEY WAS PLACED IN A

MENTAL HOSPITAL ON

SUICIDE-WATCH.

I JUST LOSE IT AND START

SOBBING BECAUSE I'M THINKING

ABOUT THE SHOELACES.

AND HOW LOW HAVE I GONE THAT

I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TAKE

MY SHOELACES AWAY FROM ME.

IT WAS SO DEMEANING.

AND I STARTED CUSSING OUT

THE PERSON WHO ABUSED ME.

AND I SAID, IF THERE'S A

GOD, HAVE YOU TO SHOW ME

THAT YOU'RE REAL.

AND IT HAS TO BE BETWEEN YOU

AND ME.

I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT

SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS.

AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW ME YOU

CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS

PAIN.

AND IF YOU CAN'T, I'M

DYING.

Reporter: SHELLEY

DIDN'T KNOW IT, BUT THAT'S

WHEN A GROUP OF STUDENTS AND

TEACHERS BEGAN A PRAYER

VIGIL ON HER BEHALF.

10 DAYS LATER, SHELLEY WAS

RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL.

I THINK GOD STARTED

ANSWERING THAT PRAYER --

WHEN I THINK BACK TO THAT

TIME, A TINY AMOUNTS OF HOPE

STARTED CREEPING IN AT THAT

POINT.

Reporter: THE COLLEGE

STUDENTS GIERP BEGAN TO

PRAY.

> THEY EVEN INVITED HER TO

A BIBLE STUDY.

I OPENED MY MOUTH TO SAY

NO, I'M NOT GOING, AND I

STARTED WRITING DOWN THE

DIRECTIONS.

Reporter: LATER THAT

DAY, SHELLEY OPENED A DOOR

AND HEARD SOUNDS SHE HAD

NEVER HEARD BEFORE.

IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I

HAD SEEN PEOPLE WORSHIPPING

WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED,

SINGING THE SONGS TO JESUS

WITH TEARS DOWN THEIR FACE.

SOME ARE LAUGHING, AND SOME

OR WEEPING.

RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF THAT,

ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THE

BIBLE STUDY SAYS, CAN WE

PRAY FOR YOU?

AND I GO, YEAH, SURE, PRAY

FOR ME.

AND THEY PULLED A CHAIR OUT

INTO THE MIDDLE.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THE CHAIR.

I'M WITH THE FANATICS.

I HAVE THO IDEA OF WHAT IS

GOING ON.

I HAD ONE LITTLE THOUGHT I

OFFERED UP TO GOD, I THOUGHT

IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW

YOURSELF TO ME, YOU BETTER

DO IT NOW BECAUSE I WILL

NEVER COME TO A SITUATION

LIKE THIS WITH THESE KINDS

OF PEOPLE.

Reporter: SHELLEY SAYS

GOD ANSWERED HER CHALLENGE.

IT FELT LIKE ALL OF A

SUDDEN I WAS IN A ROOM BY

MYSELF BEFORE GOD.

AND IT WAS TERRIFYING AND

AWESOME.

AND THE DOMINATING THING

THAT WAS GOING THROUGH MY

MIND AND THROUGH MY EMOTIONS

WAS, OH, MY GOODNESS, I WAS

SO WRONG.

HE EXISTS.

HE EXISTS.

I KNEW, WITHOUT ANY SHADOW

OF A DOUBT, HE EXISTED, AND

HE WAS REAL AND HE WAS

PRESENT.

AND I BEGAN TO BREAK DOWN

AND CRY.

AND THEY LED ME THROUGH A

PRAYER OF SALVATION, AND I

PRAYED WITH THEM.

WHAT I EXPERIENCED IN THAT

MOMENT WAS LIKE A LITTLE

FOUNTAIN OF JOY.

A QUITE LITTLE JOY THAT

STARTED COMING UP IN MY

HEART.

THERE WAS SUCH A RADICAL

SHIFT.

IT WAS FROM DEATH TO LIFE.

OUR CAMPUS WITNESSED IT, AND

PEOPLE AROUND ME WITNESSED

IT.

I COULD NOT STOP READING THE

BIBLE.

I WAS LOVING IT.

Reporter: IN THE

ENSUING MONTHS, SHELLEY TOLD

EVERYONE ABOUT WHAT GOD HAD

DONE FOR HER.

SHE BECOME A WORSHIP LEADER

AND BIBLE TEACHER AT THE

INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF

PRAYER IN KANSAS CITY.

THE BLOOD OF JESUS IS

ENOUGH.

GOD CAN TAKE AWAY THE PAIN

AND THE SHAME OF IT.

AND HE CAN GIVE YOU A HOPE

AND A REASON TO LIVE.

THE LORD HAS MADE IT RIGHT,

AND HE HAS SHOWN ME MY WORDS

BEFORE HIM.

Gordon: AND HE CAN DO

THAT FOR YOU.

LISTEN TO SHELLEY'S STORY.

WHAT HAPPENED TO HER AS A

CHILD IS ABSOLUTELY

HORRIBLE. AND SHE GROWS UP

WITH ALL OF THIS RAGE.

AND THEN THE SHAME ALONG

WITH IT, AND NOT KNOWING

WHERE TO GO WITH THAT.

AND THINKING, WHERE WAS

GOD?

WHERE WAS GOD IN ALL OF

THIS?

, ANAND SO SHE DECIDES

THERE IS NOT ONE.

AND SHE MAKES THAT DECISION

AND SHE STARTS COMING UP

WITH ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS

TO EXPLAIN WHY SHE DOESN'T

BELIEVE.

BUT AT THE END OF THAT,

THERE IS DISPAIR.

WHEN YOU THROW GOD OUT OF

THE EQUATION, THEN WHAT'S

LEFT?

WHAT'S LEFT IN TERMS OF

PURPOSE, AND WHAT'S LEFT IN

TERMS OF LOVE, AND IS LOVE

REAL?

ARE RELATIONSHIPS REAL?

WELL, SHELLEY FOUND OUT, AND

IT'S THE PRAYER I ENCOURAGE

EVERYONE TO MAKE.

JESUS, IF YOU'RE THERE, IF

YOU'RE REAL, CAN YOU SHOW UP

FOR ME.

CAN YOU SHOW ME?

HE IS MORE THAN A GOD IN A

BIBLE.

HE IS THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.

AND HE INSPIRED PEOPLE TO

WRITE THOSE WORDS.

BUT THAT SAME INSPIRATION

AND THAT SAME PRESENCE CAN

COME TO YOU, AND YOU CAN

HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE.

YOU CAN HAVE A ROAD TO

DAMASCUS EXPERIENCE, WHICH

IS WHAT SHELLEY HAD.

SHE ASKED GOD TO SHOW UP,

AND HE DID.

HE PROMISES TO.

YOU FIND IT IN JOHN 14,

WHERE JESUS HIMSELF SAYS, "I

WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO

YOU."

AND HE MEANS IT.

AND HE'LL SHOW UP.

AND YOU'LL FEEL THAT

PRESENCE, AND YOU'LL KNOW

BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT

THAT HE'S REAL AND HE'S

THERE.

AND EVEN MORE, HE'S THE

ANSWER, AND HE IS LOVE.

AND ALL THAT RAGE, ALL THAT

SHAME, HE CAN TAKE IT ALL.

AND HE CAN TRANSFORM YOU AND

GIVE YOU HOPE AND A PURPOSE

IN LIFE.

AND THAT'S HIS PROMISE.

I KNOW THE PLANS THAT I HAVE

FOR YOU, TO GIVE YOU A HOPE

AND A FUTURE.

NOW, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO

LIVE A LIFE OF HOPE?

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT T TO

LIVE A LIFE OF JOY?

THE KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL OF

YOUR SINS ARE TAKEN CARE

OF.

THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE

GOING TO LIVE WITH HIM, NOT

JUST NOW, BUT FOR ALL OF

ETERNITY.

AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HE

WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR

FORSAKE YOU.

HE'S GOT YOU COVERED.

YOU'RE WITH HIM, AND NOTHING

CAN SNATCH YOU OUT OF HIS

HAND.

WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO KNOW

ALL OF THAT?

WELL, HERE'S HOW YOU DO IT.

JESUS SAYS, AND YOU FIND IT

IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION:

"BEHOLD I STAND AT THE DOOR

AND KNOCK.

IF ANYONE --."

THAT'S YOU -- "HEAR MY VOICE

AND OPEN THE DOOR, I'LL COME

IN."

NOW, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS

OPEN THE DOOR.

AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO

THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MEET

HIM AND KNOW THAT HE IS

REAL, RIGHT NOW BOW YOUR

HEAD AND LET'S PRAY TOGETHER

AND JESUS WILL HONOR HIS

WORD AND HE'LL SHOW UP FOR

YOU.

LET'S PRAY.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, SAY

IT OUT LOUD.

JESUS, I OPEN THE DOOR,

LORD, AND I ASK THAT YOU

COME IN.

AND I ASK THAT YOU FORGIVE

ME AND CHANGE ME AND MAKE ME

NEW AGAIN.

BUT MOST OF ALL, I WANT TO

KNOW THAT YOU'RE REAL, AND

THAT YOU'RE THERE.

AND I WANT TO HAVE YOUR

PRESENCE WITH ME.

AND IN ME AND ALL AROUND

ME.

SO, JESUS, HEAR MY PRAYER.

COME INTO MY HEART, FOR I

PRAY IT IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN.

FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO JUST

PRAYED, I ASK FOR A BAPTISM

IN YOUR LOVE.

I ASK THAT THAT FOUNTAIN OF

JOY SPRING UP FROM THEIR

INNER MOST BEING AND FLOOD

THEM WITH THE PEACE THAT

SURPASSES ALL

UNDERSTANDING.

DO IT NOW, LORD, FOR WE ASK

IT IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, THE

BIBLE SAYS ALL YOU HAVE TO

DO IS BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART

AND CONFESS WITH YOUR

MOUTH.

WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS DO

THAT.

AND CONFESS AND SAY, I

PRAYED.

I ASKED JESUS TO COME INTO

MY HEART.

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NEXT.

Gordon: ALL AROUND THE

COUNTRY, KIDS ARE GOING BACK

TO SCHOOL, AND WE WANT YOU

TO MEET ONE BOY IN CHINA WHO

HAS JUST STARTED

KINDERGARTEN.

HE HAD TO OVERCOME A MAJOR

CHALLENGE JUST TO GET

THERE.

Reporter: 5-YEAR-OLD

CHIN CHU IS QUITE THE

COMMUNICATOR.

BUT UP UNTIL A FEW YEARS

AGO, HE COULDN'T SPEAK.

ONE DAY A RELATIVE CAME

OVER.

AND SHE SAID, YOUR BABY IS

ALMOST TO THREE.

HOW COME HE ISN'T SPEAKING.

SO I GOT A PLATE AND HIT IT

WITH A CHOPSTICK.

THERE WAS A VERY BIG NOISE,

BUT CHI CHU DID NOT

RESPOND.

Reporter: HIS PARENTS

ARE POOR, HIS FATHER IS A

DELIVERYMAN AND HIS MOTHER

IS A HOUSEKEEPER.

TOGETHER THEY ONLY MAKE A

FEW DOLLARS A MONTH.

THEY BOUGHT THEIR CHILD A

HEARING AID, BUT,

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS NO

MONEY LEFT TO TEACH HIM WITH

SPEECH THERAPY.

I WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIS

FUTURE.

HOW WAS HE GOING TO FIND A

JOB OR GET MARRIED SOME

DAY.

Reporter: THE JEES

DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN.

HE TOLD ME THAT GOD WOULD

TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, SO

I DID.

I KNEW GOD HAD ANSWERED MY

PRAYER WHEN I GOT A CALL

FROM CBN.

THEY SAID THEY WOULD HELP MY

SON.

Reporter: CBN PROVIDED

THE SPEECH THERAPY THAT CHI

CHU NEEDED TO LEARN TO

COMMUNICATE.

THIS TRAINING HAS MADE ALL

OF THE DIFFERENCE IN HIS

DEVELOPMENT.

IN FACT, CHI CHU JUST

STARTED KINDERGARTEN.

AND NOW HE LOVES ANSWERING

HIS TEACHER'S QUESTIONS AND

PLAYING WITH THE OTHER KIDS

AT SCHOOL.

AT HOME, HE IS BEST FRIENDS

WITH HIS DOG AND CAT.

I LIKE THE SOUND THE DOGS

MAKE.

WHAT HAVE, WHAWHATWOOF,

WOOF.

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WE HAVE RE ERICA AND SHE

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MY FRIEND SEEMS TO KNOW THE

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GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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