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[APPLAUSE]
Gordon: WELL, WELCOME
TO "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."
IT MAY NOT BE ONE FOUGHT
WITH GUNS AND TANKS, BUT
MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THERE IS
A WAR GOING ON IN AMERICA.
ON ONE SIDE YOU HAVE THOSE
WHO WANT TO EXERCISE THEIR
FREEDOM OF WORSHIP, AND ON
THE OTHER, YOU HAVE THOSE
WHO ARE TRYING TO SCRUB ANY
FORM OF RELIGIOUS DISPLAY
FROM PUBLIC LIFE.
OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, THE
FIGHTING HAS BEEN GETTING
MORE INTENSE, AND ONE SIDE
SEEMS TO BE GETTING
STRONGER.
Reporter: IN A RECENT
STUDY, THE NUMBER OF
AMERICANS WHO SAY THEY ARE
RELIGIOUS IS ON THE
DECLINE.
FROM 73% IN 2005 TO 60%
TODAY.
NOT SURPRISING, THE NUMBER
OF ATHEISTS HAS RISEN DURING
THAT SAME TIME SPAN, AND
THEY'VE GOTTEN MORE VOCAL.
SOME HAVE RELEASED
ANTIRELIGIOUS BOOKS.
IN 2005, ONE-EIGHTH THEIST
WEIGHED IN ON THE EVOLUTION
VERSUS THE RELIGIOUS
BELIEF.
HE THINKS ALL BELIEFS SHOULD
BE DISCUSSED, INCLUDING THE
THEORY THAT THE WORLD WAS
CREATE BY A SPAGHETTI
MONSTER.
MOST RECENTLY, THE GROUP
"AMERICAN ATHEISTS," HAS
ERECTED A BILLBOARD POKING
FUN AT THE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS
OF BOTH CANDIDATES.
Gordon: JOINING US NOW,
VIA SKYPE, IS BILL DONAHUE,
THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK
"SECULAR SABOTAGE."
BILL, THANK YOU FOR BEING
WITH US.
THANK YOU SO MUCH,
GORDON.
Gordon: WHY DO YOU
THINK THE ATHEIST MOVEMENT
HAS BECOME MORE VOCAL?
IF YOU LISTEN TO WHAT
THEY SAY, AND I THINK
THEY'RE ONLY BEING PARTIALLY
TRUE, AND THEY WILL SAY THAT
THE CATALYST WAS THE 9/11
EVENT.
ON THAT FATEFUL DAY, OF
COURSE, THE TWIN TOWERS WENT
DOWN, AND THE ATTACK ON THE
PENTAGON, AND THE PLANE THAT
WENT DOWN IN PENNSYLVANIA.
WE DO KNOW THEY WERE RADICAL
MUSLIM MEN WHO DID THIS, AND
THEY WERE SCREAMING ALLAH,
ALLAH.
INSTEAD OF ATTACKING MAYBE
MUSLIMS, AND I WOULDN'T WANT
PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE AND
WILLY-NILLY ATTACK ANYBODY,
MUSLIMS, INCLUDED, BUT WHAT
THEY DID, THESE ATHEISTS,
ATTACKED CHRISTIANITY.
THEY USED THIS IDEA THAT
RELIGION IN ITS EXTREME AS A
FOIL TO ATTACK CHRISTIANITY
INSTEAD OF GOING AFTER
ISLAMISTS.
IF YOU NEED ANY PROOF, TAKE
A LOOK AT THE BILLBOARDS
THEY WANTED TO PUT UP IN
CHARLOTTE AND TAMPA.
THEY DIDN'T ATTACK JEWS.
THEY HAVE TOO MUCH RESPECT
FOR JEWS.
THEY DIDN'T ATTACK ISLAM.
NO, THEY HAVE TOO MUCH FEAR
ABOUT MUSLIMS.
SO THEY WENT AGAINST
MORMONS, AND THEN THEY WENT
FOR THE BULL'S EYE.
THEY WENT FOR CHRISTIANITY.
WE'RE THE HATE-FILLED
RELIGION, AND THAT'S WHY
THEY SAY WE WORSHIP A SAT
SADISTIC GOD.
Gordon: AFTER 9/11, I
HEARD THINGS LIKE CHRISTIAN
LEADERS BEING CALLED
AYATOLLAHS, AND THE PHRASE
AMERICAN TALIBAN, AND
SOMEHOW OR ANOTHER THERE WAS
SOME EVIL LURKING AND
CHRISTIANS WANTED TO TAKE
OVER AMERICA.
I WAS HEARING ALL THOSE
KINDS OF ARGUMENTS.
WHY DO YOU THINK -- WAS THIS
JUST -- THERE CAN'T BE
INTELLECTUAL HONESTY IN
DOING THAT.
WHY DO YOU THINK -- IT IS
ALMOST LIKE IT IS A PRETEXT
ARGUMENT.
WELL, IT IS.
ONE OF THE DRIVING FORCES IS
THIS WILD IDEA ABOUT
SEXUALITY, LIBERALISM, WHICH
IS THE IDEA YOU CAN DO
WHATEVER YOU WANT.
THE THREE MOST DREADED WORDS
IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS
"THOU SHALT NOT," ACCORDING
TO THESE PEOPLE.
THEY WANT TO BE SEXUAL
BEINGS, AND THEY DON'T WANT
THE BABIES AND THEY DON'T
WANT THE DISEASES, SO THEY
BLAME US.
Gordon: AND I GET A
SENSE IN SOME OF THEIR
ARGUMENTS THAT THEY THINK
AMERICA WILL ENTER SOME SORT
OF UTOPIAN AGE IF WE GET RID
OF ALL RELIGION, AND
SPECIFICALLY IF WE GET RID
OF OUR CHRISTIAN HERITAGE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SENSING
AS WELL?
THERE IS NO QUESTION
ABOUT IT.
SEE, THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN
NATURE OR IN NATURE'S GOD,
AS JEFFERSON UNDERSTOOD IN
THE DECLARATION.
THEY BELIEVE WE CAN CREATE
HUMAN NATURE ANY WAY WITH
WANT, LIKE SILLY PUTTY, AND
WE CAN DO WHAT WE WANT IN
IT.
IN THE 20th CENTURY,
HITLER KILLED ABOUT
24 MILLION, AND HE WAS AN
ATHEIST.
AND YOU HAD STALIN, HAD
KILLED, AND HE WAS AN
ATHEIST, AND YOU HAD PAULA
SCOTT, WHO KILLED A THIRD OF
THE POPULATION IN CAMBODIA,
AND HE WAS AN EIGHTH
THEIST.
WER DANGEROUS -- ATHEIST.
SO WE DON'T NEED LECTURES
FROM ANYONE.
WE KNOW IT.
Gordon: THERE IS AN
INTELLECTUAL AWARENESS THAT
IF YOU TAKE MORALITY OF THE
PUBLIC SQUARE, THE STATE HAS
LICENSE TO BE IMMORAL AND
DO, LITERALLY, WHATEVER IT
WANTS TO DO.
I'VE NEVER SEEN AN ATHEIST
STATE ACT FOR THE BENEFIT OF
ITS OWN POPULATION.
YOU'LL NEVER SEE AN
ATHEIST STATE ACT TO THE
BENEFIT OF ITS OWN
POPULATION.
AND THE FIRST TOTALATARIAN
STATE IN ALL OF HISTORY WAS
THE FRENCH REVOLUTION, AND
WHAT HAPPENED THERE?
THEY ATTACKED THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH AND THE CHRISTIANS IN
GENERAL.
THAT'S WHAT THEY DID.
THEY'RE FULL OF HATE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A POSITIVE
MESSAGE.
IF THEY CAME OUT THERE AND
SAID, LISTEN, I DON'T
BELIEVE IN GOD, AND I DON'T
THINK YOU SHOULD, EITHER.
THAT'S OKAY IF THEY WANT TO
MAKE THAT ARGUMENT.
BUT THEY DEFINE THEMSELVES
BY WHAT THEY'RE NOT.
THEY'RE NOT CHRISTIANS FIRST
AND FOREMOST.
THEY SAY THEY ARE AGAINST
ALL CHRISTIANS, BUT THEY ARE
NOT.
THEY'RE AGAINST
CHRISTIANITY.
THAT'S WHY THE AMERICAN
ATHEISTS HOLD THEIR
CONVENTIONS EVERY YEAR
DURING EASTER TIME.
THEY SUFFER APOPLEXI EVERY
CHRISTMAS.
GORDON, YOU'RE LOOKING AT
THIS LOGICAL, COMMON SENSE
PERSPECTIVE, AND YOU'RE NOT
A LIAR.
I'M DEALING WITH THESE
PEOPLE, CHRISTOPHER
HITCHENS, AND THEY LIE.
SO WHEN YOU PRESS THEM ABOUT
MOTHER TERESA, ALL THEY DO
IS LIE ABOUT HER.
POPE PIUS THE 12th, THEY
LIE ABOUT HIM.
THEY LIE ABOUT JESUS.
THEY'RE NOT ETHICAL PEOPLE.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT
ATHEISTS IN GENERAL.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE
ACTIVISTS.
THOSE PEOPLE ARE BASICALLY
UNETHICAL.
Gordon: ONE OF THE
THINGS I LIKE ABOUT YOUR
BOOK, "SECULAR SABOTAGE,"
YOU POINT A SPOTLIGHT ON
CATHOLICS AND PROTESTANTS,
TO A DEGREE THE MODERN
AMERICA WE'RE LIVING IN IS
PARTLY OUR OWN FAULT.
WE SELF-SABOTAGED.
TELL US WOULD YO ABOUT
THAT.
WHAT CAN WE DO IN THE
CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY TO TURN
THE TIDE?
BY SELF-SABOTAGE, I MEAN
ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE THE
LEFT-WING CATHOLICS AND
LEFT-WING PROTESTANTS, AS
WELL AS SECULAR JEWS, AND
THEY BELIEVE IN ABORTION
RIGHTS, THEY BELIEVE IN GAY
MARRIAGE RIGHTS, THEY'RE
AGAINST SCHOOL VOUCHERS.
THEY'RE AGAINST TRADITIONAL
MORALITY.
THEY WANT TO TEAR IT DOWN.
EVANGELICAL PROTESTANTS AND
TRADITIONAL CATHOLICS AND
ORTHODOX JEWS, AND CERTAINLY
THAT WOULD INCLUDE MANY
MORMONS AND A NUMBER OF
MUSLIMS, THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE
THEIR FATE SERIOUSLY, THEY
TEND TO BE ABLE TO REACH
ACROSS THE AISLE.
I HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON
WITH YOUR VIEWING AUDIENCE
THAN I DO WITH NANCY
PELOSI.
Gordon: WELL-SAID.
ALL RIGHT.
BILL, THANKS FOR BEING WITH
US.
THANK YOU FOR THE BOOK.
IT'S CALLED "SECULAR
SABOTAGE," AND IT'S
AVAILABLE IN STORES
NATIONWIDE.
BILL, THANKS THAT ALL YOU DO
TO STAND UP FOR
CHRISTIANITY.
THANK YOU.
GOD BLESS YOU.
Gordon: GOD BLESS YOU
MORE.
UP NEXT, THE GIRL AS THE
MOST FOUL-MOWNLMOUTHED
ATHEIST ON CAMPUS.
SEE HOW SHE GAVE HER FELLOW
STUDENTS A MESSAGE THEY'LL
NEVER FORGET.
Gordon: SHELLEYP HUNT
MAY NEVER HAD MUCH OF A
CHANCE FOR A NORMAL LIFE.
HER INNOCENCE WAS STOLEN
FROM HER WHEN SHE WAS SIX
YEARS OLD. AND AFTER THAT,
SHELLEY CARRIED A TOXIC
COMBINATION OF RAGE AND
SHAME.
IT WAS SLOWLY KILLING HER.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN
COLOMBIA.
IT WAS THE MURDER CAPITAL
AND DRUG CAPITAL OF THE
WHOLE WORLD.
YOU'VE GOT DRUG DEALER MONEY
AND THESE GUERRILLA GUYS
TRYING TO TAKE OVER THE
GOVERNMENT.
THE SPECIFIC TARGET WAS
MISSIONARIES.
CONSTANTLY WE WERE HEARING
OF PEOPLE KILLED.
Reporter: BUT THERE WAS
SOMETHING MORE OMINOUS THAT
THREATENED THIS MISSIONARY
CHILD.
FROM THE AGE OF 6 TO THE AGE
OF 10, SHELLEY HUNTLEY WAS
THE VICTIM OF SEXUAL ABUSE.
THE PERPETRATOR WAS A PRIEST
IN HER OWN CHURCH.
I SUFFERED IN A WAY I
REALLY CAN'T EVEN ARTICULATE
IT.
IT WAS SEXUAL ABUSE, BUT IT
HAD A SADISTIC ELEMENT, AND
JUST RAW EVIL.
Reporter: SHELLEY'S
SILENCE WAS ENFORCED THROUGH
FEAR AND LIES.
THAT WHOLE MESSAGE OF,
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE ONE
THAT IS PERVERSE, AND YOU'RE
THE ONE THAT IS MESSED UP.
THERE WAS A TERROR ELEMENT,
A SHAME ELEMENT, AND A SENSE
OF BEING TRAPPED THAT I CAN
NEVER REACH OUT TO ANYBODY.
NOBODY IS GOING TO
UNDERSTAND.
NOBODY CAN HELP ME.
WHERE I MADE THE FALSE
CONCLUSION IN MY HEART THAT
GOD HATES ME.
GOD IS WITH HIM, THE ABUSER,
AND HE IS SANGING
SANCTIONING WHAT HE IS
DOING.
Reporter: THE ABUSE
ENDED WHEN SHELLEY'S FAMILY
MOVED BACK TO THE UNITED
STATES, BUT THE DAMAGE WAS
DONE.
I'M STEPPING INTO MY
TEENAGED YEARS AS A YOUNG
WOMAN, AND YET I HAVE SUCH
DEEP SHAME ISSUES.
I REALLY TRIED TO GO FOR
GOD.
BUT THE REALITY WAS THAT
FROM THAT 10-YEAR-OLD MOMENT
WHEN I MADE THAT INTERNAL
DECISION THAT GOD HATES ME,
THAT HAD MORE POWER IN MY
INNER MAN THAN I KNEW.
Reporter: SHELLEY
IMMERSED HERSELF IN SCHOOL
ACTIVITIES AND BECAME AN
ACCOMPLISHED MUSICIAN.
DO THE SPORTS, DO THE
MUSIC, AND DO THE YOUTH
GROUP.
IN THE MIDST OF DOING IT
ALL, I WOULD WANDER AWAY BY
MYSELF AND SIT IN THE CORNER
OR CRY OR TRY TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME THAT I
DON'T FEEL THE WAY THAT
OTHER PEOPLE FEEL.
Reporter: AFTER
GRADUATION, SHELLEY'S
PARENTS ENROLLED HER IN A
CHRISTIAN COLLEGE.
SHELLEY BECAME KNOWN NOT FOR
HER OUTSTANDING GRADES OR
CHARACTER, BUT AS THE MOST
FOUL-MOUTHED ATHEIST ON
CAMPUS.
PEOPLE WOULD COME UP TO
ME WELL-MEANING, OH, YOUR A
MISSIONARY KID.
THEY WOULD TALK TO ME ABOUT
JESUS, AND I WOULD CUSS THEM
UP AND DOWN.
Reporter: SHE SOUGHT
HELP.
I KNEW I WAS COMING APART
AT THE SEEMS, AND I TRIED,
BUT I WAS, LIKE, UNCOUNSELLABLE.
AND AT THIS TIME, I WAS
DOING THE CUTTING, AND
SLICING INTO MY HANDS IN A
SELF-PUNISHMENT AND
SELF-MUTILATION.
I WOULD FLY INTO RAGES AND
BREAK EVERYTHING IN MY DORM
ROOM.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT AND
THINKING ABOUT SUICIDE.
Reporter: SHELLEY BEGAN
TO FINALIZE A PLAN TO END
HER SUFFERING.
I WAS GOING TO JUMP OFF
THE ROOF, LANDING INTO THE
STONE COURTYARD, WHERE THERE
WOULD BE A HIGH VISIBILITY
OF MY DEATH.
I WAS HOPING TO DO IT ON MY
BIRTHDAY TO MAKE A STATEMENT
OF HOW UNHAPPY I WAS THAT I
EXIST.
Reporter: BUT BEFORE
SHE COULD GET TO THE
ROOF --
THIS OTHER STUDENT FROM
COLLEGE JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN
JUST STANDS IN FRONT OF ME,
BETWEEN ME AND THE FRONT
DOOR.
SHE JUST SAID, LET'S GO TO
THE BATHROOM AND WASH THAT
OFF YOUR HANDS, OKAY.
Reporter: WITH HER
SUICIDE ATTEMPT THWARTED,
SHELLEY WAS PLACED IN A
MENTAL HOSPITAL ON
SUICIDE-WATCH.
I JUST LOSE IT AND START
SOBBING BECAUSE I'M THINKING
ABOUT THE SHOELACES.
AND HOW LOW HAVE I GONE THAT
I HAVE TO HAVE SOMEONE TAKE
MY SHOELACES AWAY FROM ME.
IT WAS SO DEMEANING.
AND I STARTED CUSSING OUT
THE PERSON WHO ABUSED ME.
AND I SAID, IF THERE'S A
GOD, HAVE YOU TO SHOW ME
THAT YOU'RE REAL.
AND IT HAS TO BE BETWEEN YOU
AND ME.
I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT
SOMEBODY ELSE SAYS.
AND YOU HAVE TO SHOW ME YOU
CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS
PAIN.
AND IF YOU CAN'T, I'M
DYING.
Reporter: SHELLEY
DIDN'T KNOW IT, BUT THAT'S
WHEN A GROUP OF STUDENTS AND
TEACHERS BEGAN A PRAYER
VIGIL ON HER BEHALF.
10 DAYS LATER, SHELLEY WAS
RELEASED FROM THE HOSPITAL.
I THINK GOD STARTED
ANSWERING THAT PRAYER --
WHEN I THINK BACK TO THAT
TIME, A TINY AMOUNTS OF HOPE
STARTED CREEPING IN AT THAT
POINT.
Reporter: THE COLLEGE
STUDENTS GIERP BEGAN TO
PRAY.
> THEY EVEN INVITED HER TO
A BIBLE STUDY.
I OPENED MY MOUTH TO SAY
NO, I'M NOT GOING, AND I
STARTED WRITING DOWN THE
DIRECTIONS.
Reporter: LATER THAT
DAY, SHELLEY OPENED A DOOR
AND HEARD SOUNDS SHE HAD
NEVER HEARD BEFORE.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME I
HAD SEEN PEOPLE WORSHIPPING
WITH THEIR HANDS RAISED,
SINGING THE SONGS TO JESUS
WITH TEARS DOWN THEIR FACE.
SOME ARE LAUGHING, AND SOME
OR WEEPING.
RIGHT IN THE MIDST OF THAT,
ONE OF THE LEADERS OF THE
BIBLE STUDY SAYS, CAN WE
PRAY FOR YOU?
AND I GO, YEAH, SURE, PRAY
FOR ME.
AND THEY PULLED A CHAIR OUT
INTO THE MIDDLE.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THE CHAIR.
I'M WITH THE FANATICS.
I HAVE THO IDEA OF WHAT IS
GOING ON.
I HAD ONE LITTLE THOUGHT I
OFFERED UP TO GOD, I THOUGHT
IF YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW
YOURSELF TO ME, YOU BETTER
DO IT NOW BECAUSE I WILL
NEVER COME TO A SITUATION
LIKE THIS WITH THESE KINDS
OF PEOPLE.
Reporter: SHELLEY SAYS
GOD ANSWERED HER CHALLENGE.
IT FELT LIKE ALL OF A
SUDDEN I WAS IN A ROOM BY
MYSELF BEFORE GOD.
AND IT WAS TERRIFYING AND
AWESOME.
AND THE DOMINATING THING
THAT WAS GOING THROUGH MY
MIND AND THROUGH MY EMOTIONS
WAS, OH, MY GOODNESS, I WAS
SO WRONG.
HE EXISTS.
HE EXISTS.
I KNEW, WITHOUT ANY SHADOW
OF A DOUBT, HE EXISTED, AND
HE WAS REAL AND HE WAS
PRESENT.
AND I BEGAN TO BREAK DOWN
AND CRY.
AND THEY LED ME THROUGH A
PRAYER OF SALVATION, AND I
PRAYED WITH THEM.
WHAT I EXPERIENCED IN THAT
MOMENT WAS LIKE A LITTLE
FOUNTAIN OF JOY.
A QUITE LITTLE JOY THAT
STARTED COMING UP IN MY
HEART.
THERE WAS SUCH A RADICAL
SHIFT.
IT WAS FROM DEATH TO LIFE.
OUR CAMPUS WITNESSED IT, AND
PEOPLE AROUND ME WITNESSED
IT.
I COULD NOT STOP READING THE
BIBLE.
I WAS LOVING IT.
Reporter: IN THE
ENSUING MONTHS, SHELLEY TOLD
EVERYONE ABOUT WHAT GOD HAD
DONE FOR HER.
SHE BECOME A WORSHIP LEADER
AND BIBLE TEACHER AT THE
INTERNATIONAL HOUSE OF
PRAYER IN KANSAS CITY.
THE BLOOD OF JESUS IS
ENOUGH.
GOD CAN TAKE AWAY THE PAIN
AND THE SHAME OF IT.
AND HE CAN GIVE YOU A HOPE
AND A REASON TO LIVE.
THE LORD HAS MADE IT RIGHT,
AND HE HAS SHOWN ME MY WORDS
BEFORE HIM.
Gordon: AND HE CAN DO
THAT FOR YOU.
LISTEN TO SHELLEY'S STORY.
WHAT HAPPENED TO HER AS A
CHILD IS ABSOLUTELY
HORRIBLE. AND SHE GROWS UP
WITH ALL OF THIS RAGE.
AND THEN THE SHAME ALONG
WITH IT, AND NOT KNOWING
WHERE TO GO WITH THAT.
AND THINKING, WHERE WAS
GOD?
WHERE WAS GOD IN ALL OF
THIS?
, ANAND SO SHE DECIDES
THERE IS NOT ONE.
AND SHE MAKES THAT DECISION
AND SHE STARTS COMING UP
WITH ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS
TO EXPLAIN WHY SHE DOESN'T
BELIEVE.
BUT AT THE END OF THAT,
THERE IS DISPAIR.
WHEN YOU THROW GOD OUT OF
THE EQUATION, THEN WHAT'S
LEFT?
WHAT'S LEFT IN TERMS OF
PURPOSE, AND WHAT'S LEFT IN
TERMS OF LOVE, AND IS LOVE
REAL?
ARE RELATIONSHIPS REAL?
WELL, SHELLEY FOUND OUT, AND
IT'S THE PRAYER I ENCOURAGE
EVERYONE TO MAKE.
JESUS, IF YOU'RE THERE, IF
YOU'RE REAL, CAN YOU SHOW UP
FOR ME.
CAN YOU SHOW ME?
HE IS MORE THAN A GOD IN A
BIBLE.
HE IS THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.
AND HE INSPIRED PEOPLE TO
WRITE THOSE WORDS.
BUT THAT SAME INSPIRATION
AND THAT SAME PRESENCE CAN
COME TO YOU, AND YOU CAN
HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE.
YOU CAN HAVE A ROAD TO
DAMASCUS EXPERIENCE, WHICH
IS WHAT SHELLEY HAD.
SHE ASKED GOD TO SHOW UP,
AND HE DID.
HE PROMISES TO.
YOU FIND IT IN JOHN 14,
WHERE JESUS HIMSELF SAYS, "I
WILL MANIFEST MYSELF TO
YOU."
AND HE MEANS IT.
AND HE'LL SHOW UP.
AND YOU'LL FEEL THAT
PRESENCE, AND YOU'LL KNOW
BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT
THAT HE'S REAL AND HE'S
THERE.
AND EVEN MORE, HE'S THE
ANSWER, AND HE IS LOVE.
AND ALL THAT RAGE, ALL THAT
SHAME, HE CAN TAKE IT ALL.
AND HE CAN TRANSFORM YOU AND
GIVE YOU HOPE AND A PURPOSE
IN LIFE.
AND THAT'S HIS PROMISE.
I KNOW THE PLANS THAT I HAVE
FOR YOU, TO GIVE YOU A HOPE
AND A FUTURE.
NOW, WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO
LIVE A LIFE OF HOPE?
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT T TO
LIVE A LIFE OF JOY?
THE KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL OF
YOUR SINS ARE TAKEN CARE
OF.
THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU'RE
GOING TO LIVE WITH HIM, NOT
JUST NOW, BUT FOR ALL OF
ETERNITY.
AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HE
WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU NOR
FORSAKE YOU.
HE'S GOT YOU COVERED.
YOU'RE WITH HIM, AND NOTHING
CAN SNATCH YOU OUT OF HIS
HAND.
WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT TO KNOW
ALL OF THAT?
WELL, HERE'S HOW YOU DO IT.
JESUS SAYS, AND YOU FIND IT
IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION:
"BEHOLD I STAND AT THE DOOR
AND KNOCK.
IF ANYONE --."
THAT'S YOU -- "HEAR MY VOICE
AND OPEN THE DOOR, I'LL COME
IN."
NOW, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
OPEN THE DOOR.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO
THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE TO MEET
HIM AND KNOW THAT HE IS
REAL, RIGHT NOW BOW YOUR
HEAD AND LET'S PRAY TOGETHER
AND JESUS WILL HONOR HIS
WORD AND HE'LL SHOW UP FOR
YOU.
LET'S PRAY.
JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, SAY
IT OUT LOUD.
JESUS, I OPEN THE DOOR,
LORD, AND I ASK THAT YOU
COME IN.
AND I ASK THAT YOU FORGIVE
ME AND CHANGE ME AND MAKE ME
NEW AGAIN.
BUT MOST OF ALL, I WANT TO
KNOW THAT YOU'RE REAL, AND
THAT YOU'RE THERE.
AND I WANT TO HAVE YOUR
PRESENCE WITH ME.
AND IN ME AND ALL AROUND
ME.
SO, JESUS, HEAR MY PRAYER.
COME INTO MY HEART, FOR I
PRAY IT IN YOUR NAME.
AMEN.
FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO JUST
PRAYED, I ASK FOR A BAPTISM
IN YOUR LOVE.
I ASK THAT THAT FOUNTAIN OF
JOY SPRING UP FROM THEIR
INNER MOST BEING AND FLOOD
THEM WITH THE PEACE THAT
SURPASSES ALL
UNDERSTANDING.
DO IT NOW, LORD, FOR WE ASK
IT IN JESUS' NAME.
AMEN.
IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, THE
BIBLE SAYS ALL YOU HAVE TO
DO IS BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART
AND CONFESS WITH YOUR
MOUTH.
WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS DO
THAT.
AND CONFESS AND SAY, I
PRAYED.
I ASKED JESUS TO COME INTO
MY HEART.
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WE'LL TAKE YOU THERE, UP
NEXT.
Gordon: ALL AROUND THE
COUNTRY, KIDS ARE GOING BACK
TO SCHOOL, AND WE WANT YOU
TO MEET ONE BOY IN CHINA WHO
HAS JUST STARTED
KINDERGARTEN.
HE HAD TO OVERCOME A MAJOR
CHALLENGE JUST TO GET
THERE.
Reporter: 5-YEAR-OLD
CHIN CHU IS QUITE THE
COMMUNICATOR.
BUT UP UNTIL A FEW YEARS
AGO, HE COULDN'T SPEAK.
ONE DAY A RELATIVE CAME
OVER.
AND SHE SAID, YOUR BABY IS
ALMOST TO THREE.
HOW COME HE ISN'T SPEAKING.
SO I GOT A PLATE AND HIT IT
WITH A CHOPSTICK.
THERE WAS A VERY BIG NOISE,
BUT CHI CHU DID NOT
RESPOND.
Reporter: HIS PARENTS
ARE POOR, HIS FATHER IS A
DELIVERYMAN AND HIS MOTHER
IS A HOUSEKEEPER.
TOGETHER THEY ONLY MAKE A
FEW DOLLARS A MONTH.
THEY BOUGHT THEIR CHILD A
HEARING AID, BUT,
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WAS NO
MONEY LEFT TO TEACH HIM WITH
SPEECH THERAPY.
I WAS WORRIED ABOUT HIS
FUTURE.
HOW WAS HE GOING TO FIND A
JOB OR GET MARRIED SOME
DAY.
Reporter: THE JEES
DIDN'T KNOW WHERE TO TURN.
HE TOLD ME THAT GOD WOULD
TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING, SO
I DID.
I KNEW GOD HAD ANSWERED MY
PRAYER WHEN I GOT A CALL
FROM CBN.
THEY SAID THEY WOULD HELP MY
SON.
Reporter: CBN PROVIDED
THE SPEECH THERAPY THAT CHI
CHU NEEDED TO LEARN TO
COMMUNICATE.
THIS TRAINING HAS MADE ALL
OF THE DIFFERENCE IN HIS
DEVELOPMENT.
IN FACT, CHI CHU JUST
STARTED KINDERGARTEN.
AND NOW HE LOVES ANSWERING
HIS TEACHER'S QUESTIONS AND
PLAYING WITH THE OTHER KIDS
AT SCHOOL.
AT HOME, HE IS BEST FRIENDS
WITH HIS DOG AND CAT.
I LIKE THE SOUND THE DOGS
MAKE.
WHAT HAVE, WHAWHATWOOF,
WOOF.
AND THE CAT, MEOW.
BECAUSE OF THE HELP YOU
GAVE HIM, CHI CHU CAN NOW
SPEAK LIKE A NORMAL CHILD.
WE COULD NOT HAVE DONE THIS
WITHOUT YOUR HELP.
THANK YOU, CBN.
YOU ARE AN EXTENSION OF
GOD'S LOVE TO MY FAMILY.
Gordon: AND THANK YOU.
IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF "THE
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THAT BLESSING.
WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE.
WE WANT TO REACH AROUND THE
WORLD TO LET THEM KNOW GOD
LOVES THEM.
WE LOVE THEM, TOO.
WE WANT TO DO THAT IN VERY
TANGIBLE WAYS, WAYS THAT CAN
CHANGE A WHOLE LIFE.
IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF
IT, IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER,
CALL US.
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"THE THREE BLESSINGS."
I CALL IT A LEGACY TEACHING
FROM MY FATHER.
WHAT HAVE BEEN THE MAJOR
PRAYERS THAT HAVE BEEN THE
FOUNDATION OF HIS MINISTRY
FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
IT IS WHAT HIS PRAYER LIFE
IS, AND WHAT HE ASKS GOD FOR
ON A DAILY BASIS.
IF YOU'D LIKE THAT, JOIN
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WE'VE GOT TIME FOR A
QUESTION.
LET'S GO OVER TO JOSEPH IN
THE CHATROOM.
WE HAVE RE ERICA AND SHE
SAYS, "WHAT IS THE BEST WAY
TO RESPOND TO AN ATHEIST.
MY FRIEND SEEMS TO KNOW THE
BIBLE BETTER THAN I DO, AND
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY TO
HIM."
Gordon: THAT'S KIND OF
TRUE.
ATHEISTS TEND TO STUDY UP
AND THEY MEMORIZE
ARGUMENTS.
THE BEST RESPONSE IS, JUST
REMEMBER, I'VE NEVER ARGUED
ANYONE INTO THE KINGDOM OF
HEAVEN.
THE BEST THING IS LET YOUR
OWN LIFE BE THE APISTLE TO
YOUR FRIEND.
AND YOU LIVE A LIFE OF LOVE,
AND YOU SHOW HIM VERY
TANGIBLY HOW YOUR LIFE HAS
BEEN CHANGED BY JESUS,
THAT'S THE BEST ARGUMENT YOU
CAN MAKE.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM 2 JOHN 1: "ANYONE
WHO RUNS AHEAD AND DOES NOT
CONTINUE IN THE TEACHING OF
CHRIST, DOES NOT HAVE GOD.
WHOEVER CONTINUES IN THE
TEACHING, HAS BOTH THE
FATHER AND THE SON."
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.
