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The 700 Club - October 23, 2012

New York Mets pitcher shares about his faith on the backdrop of a baseball career. Plus, Her husband abruptly died and left her with five children to care for, see how CBN partners made an impact on Lourdes and her family. Read Transcript


IF YOU WANT A HEALTHY HEART

AVOID CHOLESTEROL, RIGHT?

CHOLESTEROL CAN BE A GIFT IN

DISGUISE. CHOLESTEROL WAS

FOUND AT THE SCENE OF THE CRIME

BUT NOT THE PERPETRATOR.

PLUS NEW YORK METS ACE R.A.

DICKEY AND WHY HE RISKED A

MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT TO

CLIMB A MOUNTAIN AROUND THE

WORLD.

ONLY IN REFLECTION CAN YOU

REALLY SEE IT.

PAT: WELCOME LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN TO THIS EDITION OF THE

"700 CLUB." I WANT TO ASK YOU

EACH A QUESTION, WHAT WIDELY

PRESCRIBED MEDICATION CAUSES

MUSCLE WEAKNESS AND ACHES?

CAUSES POTENTIAL HEART FAILURE?

EARLY SET OF ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE

AND BRINGS ABOUT FOR "MANY

VOICES, MANY VISIONS"

MANY MEN ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION?

I WILL NOT TELL YOU RIGHT NOW.

LORIE JOHNSON WILL BE HERE TO

GIVE US THE SCOOP.

TERRY: I HOPE ANYBODY WE

KNOWN ISN'T TAKEN IT.

GOOD GRIEF.

PAT: I WILL TELL YOU HOW TO

GET LIBERATED.

OKAY.

FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE WAS

SUPPOSED TO FOCUS ON FOREIGN

POLICY.

BOTH VOTERS TALK ABOUTED THE

ECONOMY.

TERRY: DAVID BRODY HAS A

LOOK AT THE DEBATE AND WHERE THE

CANDIDATES GO FROM HERE.

REPORTER: IT WAS A DEBATE

WHERE BOTH SIDES HAD A STRATEGY.

MITT ROMNEY CAME IN TRYING TO

LOOK PRESIDENTIAL.

WHILE THE PRESIDENT SET OUT TO

PAINT MITT ROMNEY AS A MAN THAT

HAS TAKEN MULTIPLE POSITIONS ON

A VARIETY OF ISSUES.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: YOUR

STRATEGY PREVIOUSLY HAS BEEN ALL

OVER THE MAP AND NOT GOING TO

KEEP THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SAFE.

MY STRATEGY IS TO GO AFTER

THE BAD GUYS AND TAKE THEM OUT

OF THE PICTURE.

THE KEY IS A PATHWAY TO GET THE

MUSLIM WORLD TO REJECT EXTREMISM

ON ITS OWN.

REPORTER: A HALF HOUR INTO

THE DEBATE THE FOCUS SHIFTED TO

ECONOMIC POLICY, WITH ROMNEY

TRYING TO MAKE THE TRANSITION TO

HIS STRONG SUIT.

IN ORDER TO FULFILL OUR ROLE

IN THE WORLD, AMERICA MUST BE

STRONG AND LEAD.

FOR THAT TO HAPPEN WE HAVE TO

STRENGTHEN OUR ECONOMY AT HOME.

REPORTER: THE PRESIDENT WAS

MORE THAN HAPPY TO TIE ROMNEY TO

BUSH.

HE HAS PRAISED BUSH AND DICK

CHANEY AND TAKING US BACK TO

THOSE STRATEGIES ARE NOT THE WAY

WE ARE GOING TO MAINTAIN

LEADERSHIP IN THE 21ST CENTURY.

ROMNEY: THE PRESIDENT SAID

BY NOW WE WOULD BE AT 5.4

PERCENT UNEMPLOYMENT.

WE ARE 9 MILLION JOBS SHORT OF

THAT.

REPORTER: MODERATOR BOB

SHEAFER HAD ENOUGH.

THEY DID ON IRAN'S PLAN TO

DEVELOP A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

PRESIDENT OBAMA TALKED ABOUT

SANCTIONS.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: WE HAVE THE

STRONGEST SANCTIONS AGAINST IRAN

IN HISTORY.

REPORTER: ROMNEY SAYS THE

PRESIDENT HASN'T BEEN TOUGH

ENOUGH.

ROMNEY: THEY NEED TO BE

TIGHTENED, DIPLOMATIC NEEDS TO

BE TOUGHER.

WE NEED TO INDICT MAHMOUD

AHMADENIJAD.

REPORTER: ROMNEY PAINTED THE

PRESIDENT OBAMA APOLOGIZING

AROUND AMERICA.

THAT GOT THE PRESIDENT AGITATED.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: NOTHING IS

TRUE STARTING WITH THIS NOTION

OF ME APOLOGIZING.

THIS IS THE BIGGEST WHOPPER TOLD

DURING THE COURSE OF THIS

CAMPAIGN.

REPORTER: ROMNEY REMINDED HIM

OF WHAT HE SAID ON ARABIC TV.

MITT ROMNEY: MR. PRESIDENT,

AMERICA HAS NOT DICTATED OTHER

NATIONS, WE HAVE FREED OTHER

NATIONS FROM DICTATORS.

REPORTER: MITT ROMNEY LEADS

AMONG MEN BY 10 POINTS,

PRESIDENT LEADING AMONG WOMEN BY

8 POINTS.

THAT IS A VERY CLOSE ELECTION.

FEW UNDECIDED VOTERS, THE

CANDIDATES HAVE TO GET THEIR

VOTERS TO THE POLLS.

CBN NEWS, BOCA RATON, FLORIDA.

PAT: WE ARE HAVING ELECTRONIC

TROUBLE WITH THE FEED.

TERRY: MAYBE WE'LL GET IT.

PAT: HIS POLLING, AS I

UNDERSTAND SHOWS ROMNEY AHEAD IN

THE BATTLEGROUND STATES AND

ELECTORAL COLLEGE.

IT IS A SQUEAKER RIGHT NOW.

ROMNEY IS COMING AHEAD, DID YOU

WATCH THE DEBATE?

TERRY: I WATCHED THE WHOLE

THING.

I THOUGHT IT WAS AN EFFORT ON

HIS PART TO REMAIN PRESIDENTIAL

AND CALM DURING THE ENTIRE

EVENING, WHICH I THOUGHT HE DID.

HE HAS SIGNIFICANT KNOWLEDGE,

INTERNATIONALLY.

WHOEVER THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT

IS GOING TO HAVE HAD EXPERIENCE

WITH WHATEVER HE IS ENGAGED IN

INTERNATIONALLY THAT IS

PRESIDENTIAL.

PAT: THAT INSULT ABOUT WE

HAVE AIRCRAFT CARRIERS, THAT WAS

A PUT DOWN OF, IT WASN'T

PRESIDENTIAL.

TERRY: THAT HAPPENS WHEN HE

GETS BACKED INTO A CORNERMENT

PAT: I UNDERSTAND THAT WE

HAVE WITH US SCOTT RASMUSSEN.

HE IS A FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF

THE RASMUSSEN REPORTS.

THEY HAVE ACCURATELY PREDICTED

THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE LAST TIME

AND A PLEASURE TO WELCOME YOU

BACK TO THE "700 CLUB." TELL US

THE POLLING, WHAT IS STANDING

OUT IN YOUR MIND ABOUT -- YOU

WERE WORKING IN THE BATTLEGROUND

STATES, WHAT ARE YOU FINDING?

BIGGEST CHANGE IS THAT THE

BATTLEGROUND STATES USED TO BE

MORE FAVORABLE TO PRESIDENT

OBAMA.

MITT ROMNEY IS UP BY FOUR

POINTS, ALSO UP BY A COUPLE OF

POINTS NATIONALLY.

ONE STATE PRESIDENT OBAMA IS

DOING MUCH BETTER IN, THAT IS

OHIO.

THAT IS A STATE BOTH CANDIDATES

WANT TO WIN.

PAT: THAT SEEMS TO BE THE KEY

STATE IN AMERICA.

[LAUGHTER].

OUR NUMBERS TODAY SHOW THAT

PRESIDENT OBAMA IS FAVORED TO

WIN 237 ELECTORAL, MITT ROMNEY

235.

THERE ARE SEVEN STATES WITH 66

ELECTORAL VOTES.

BIGGEST IS OHIO.

THAT IS WHY THE CANDIDATES ARE

RUNNING TO BE PRESIDENT OF OHIO.

NO. 2 IS VIRGINIA.

GOVERNOR ROMNEY IS UP BY THREE

POINTS IN VIRGINIA.

HE HAS WORK TO DO IN OHIO.

WHAT ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA?

SOME RUMORS THE PEOPLE IN

WESTERN PENNSYLVANIA DON'T LIKE

OBAMA AT ALL.

HE WOULD BE COMING OUT OF

PHILADELPHIA.

PHILADELPHIA AND PITTSBURGH

HEAVILY IN OBAMA'S FAVOR, RURAL

PARTS OF THE STATES IN ROMNEY'S

FAVOR.

IT IS CLOSER THAN IT WAS A

COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, IF MITT

ROMNEY WINS PENNSYLVANIA, IF THE

NUMBERS SURGE ENOUGH, HE IS

GOING TO WIN IN A LANDSLIDE.

I CONSIDER THAT A LONG SHOT.

ROMNEY HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF

WINNING IN IOWA OR WISCONSIN OR

COLORADO THAN IN PENNSYLVANIA.

PAT: SPEAKING OF WISCONSIN, I

UNDERSTAND TOMMY THOMPSON IN

THAT SENATE RACE IS EDGING AHEAD

BY A COUPLE OF POINTS, COULD YOU

TELL US ABOUT WHAT YOU FOUND OUT

THERE?

THAT HAS BEEN AN INTERESTING

RACE.

WISCONSIN HAS BEEN A STATE WITH

A POLITICAL BATTLEGROUND WITH A

RECALL EFFORTS AND SCOTT WALKER.

OBAMA WON BY 14 POINTS.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER TOMMY THOMPSON

WON THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY,

LOOKED LIKE TAMMY BALDWIN WAS UP

BY A FEW POINTS.

IN THE LAST WEEK THOMPSON IS UP

BY TWO.

WHILE HE IS AHEAD AND TREND

MOVING IN THOMPSON'S DIRECTION,

THAT IS A RACE THAT REMAINS TOO

CLOSE TO CALL.

I DON'T THINK EITHER SIDE KNOWS.

PAT: ARE YOU FINDING THAT

REPUBLICANS WILL TAKE CONTROL OF

THE SENATE?

THIS IS A POSSIBILITY.

IT IS AN UPHILL BATTLE.

RIGHT NOW WE PROJECT 48 SEATS

WILL END UP IN DEMOCRATS HANDS,

47 IN REPUBLICANS.

THERE ARE FIVE TOSS UP SENATE

RACES, ONE IS WISCONSIN RACE.

REPUBLICANS WILL NEED TO WIN

FOUR OR PERHAPS THREE IF MITT

ROMNEY IS ELECTED AND PAUL RYAN

GETS TO CAST THE DECIDING ROLE

IN THE SENATE.

ONE IN MASSACHUSETTS WHERE SCOTT

BROWN FACES AN UPHILL BATTLE AND

CONNECTICUT WHERE LINDA MCMAN IS

COMPETITIVE.

CONNECTICUT IS A

DEMOCRATIC-LEANING STATE.

THE EDGE GOES TO THE DEMOCRATS

TO HANG ON TO CONTROL OF THE

SENATE.

IT IS CLOSE ENOUGH THERE IS ROOM

FOR CHANGE IN THE LAST TWO

WEEKS.

WHAT ABOUT THE SEAT IN

NEBRASKA?

THAT IS GOING TO SWING TO THE

REPUBLICANS, YOU THINK?

YES.

NEBRASKA IS LIKELY TO GO TO THE

REPUBLICANS.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT IS ENOUGH TO

WIN CONTROL.

PAT: WHAT ABOUT VIRGINIA, SEE

ANYTHING WITH GEORGE ALLEN?

HE HAS BEEN BEHIND MOST OF THE

SEASON, IS HE UP NOW?

RIGHT.

NARROWLY BEHIND MOST OF THE

SEASON.

WHAT WE ARE SEEING, WHEREVER

MITT ROMNEY'S SUPPORT IS IN

VIRGINIA, GEORGE ALLEN IS DOING

THREE OR FOUR POINTS WORSE.

RIGHT NOW WE SHOW MITT ROMNEY

LEADING BY THREE IN VIRGINIA.

ALLEN IS DOWN BY A POINT.

YOU ARE RIGHT, THIS IS A

PERSISTENT DEFICIT AND ALLEN

HASN'T FIGURED A WAY TO CONVERT

SOME OF THE ENERGY REPUBLICANS

ARE FEELING ABOUT THE

PRESIDENTIAL RACE TO HELP HIS

CAMPAIGN

CAMPAIGN.

PAT: ONE LAST QUESTION, WHO

IS GOING TO BE SITTING IN THE

WHITE HOUSE?

WHO DO YOU THINK?

YOU KNOW, ANYBODY WHO TELLS

YOU THEY KNOW IS LYING OR

DILUTING THEMSELVES.

THE RACE IS CLOSE.

IF I WERE TO USE A BASKETBALL

COMPARISON, IT IS LIKE A TIE

GAME WITH POSSESSION FAVORING

ROMNEY, CLOSE EDGE FOR HIM.

HERE IS THE THING I HOPE WE

AVOID, WHEN WE WAKE UP NOVEMBER

7TH, THERE IS A WINNER RATHER

THAN HAVING LAWYERS FLOODING

OHIO AND FLORIDA AND VIRGINIA

AND FIGHTING OVER WHAT HAPPENED

THE NIGHT BEFORE.

I SHARE THAT EARNEST HOPE,

SCOTT, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH

US.

APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GREAT DAY.

PAT: SCOTT RASMUSSEN, HE IS

THE BEST POLLSTERS IN THE

NATION, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.

JUMP BALL.

TERRY: I SHARE YOUR HOPE.

PAT: WE DON'T NEED ANOTHER

SUPREME COURT WIN.

WHAT ELSE?

TERRY: ONE COMMONLY

PRESCRIBED DRUG MAYBE SPEEDING

UP THE RATE OF ALZHEIMER'S

DISEASE.

LATER ON TODAY'S SHOW.

FIRST MET'S RACE R.A. DICKEY WAS

STRUGGLING IN THE MINERS, EVEN

CONTEMPLATING SUICIDE.

ANY KIND OF ESCAPE I COULD

THINK OF CROSSED MY MINE.

TERRY: HEAR HIS AMAZING COME

BACK STORY NEXT.

II

TERRY: THIS PAST SEASON,

BASEBALL FANS WATCHED R.A.

DICKEY MOW DOWN HITTERS AND GET

NAMED TO THE ALL STAR TEAM.

ON THE TOP OF THE HIGHEST

MOUNTAIN, WEST RICKERS BRINGS US

HIS STORY.

I COULD FEEL ITS PRESENCE

LIKE A GIANT BEAST LURKING IN

THE SHADOWS.

ONLY TIME WILL TELL IF IT IS

FRIEND OR FOE.

REPORTER: KILIMANJARO IS THE

HIGHEST MOUNTAIN IN AFRICA AND

HIGHEST MOUNTAIN IN THE WORLD.

R.A. DICKEY VOWED TO CONQUER THE

BEAST.

FOR ME IT WAS TOUGH.

AND WE TOOK A SEVEN-DAY ROUTE

WHICH WOULD HELP US ACCOMMODATE,

IT WAS A LONG WALK.

WE WERE WALKING SEVEN AND A

HALF, EIGHT HOURS A DAY.

R.A. DICKEY WASN'T CLIMBING

BECAUSE HE WANTED ADVENTURE BUT

BECAUSE HE WANTED TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE.

IN THE OFF SEASON HE JOINED A

NON-PROFIT DEDICATING TO END

TRAFFICKING.

I FELT LIKE GOD WAS CALLING

ME TO STEP OUT CALLING AWARENESS

TO THE WHITE ELEPHANT IN THE

NEWS.

REPORTER: R.A. DICKEY LEFT

OUT THE ONE SECRET HE KEPT

HIDDEN FOR EVERYONE FOR MORE

THAN 20 YEARS.

I WAS AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD BOY.

I UM, WAS VICTIMIZED BY A

BABYSITTER A FEW TIMES OVER A

COURSE OF A SUMMER, LATER IN THE

SUMMER AS IT TURNED TO FALL BY A

17-YEAR-OLD BOY.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TAKEN

PART IN SOMETHING SO WICKED, AT

SOME LEVEL IT HAS TO BE PARTLY

YOUR FAULT.

I FELT LIKE I WAS LESS THAN

HUMAN.

I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL ANYBODY

ABOUT IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT THEY

WOULD THROW THEIR ARMS UP AND

RUN THE OTHER WAY.

THAT WAS A RISK I WAS UNWILLING

TO TAKE.

REPORTER: AS A KID, HE

STARRED IN SPORTS AND IN HIS

BOOK "WHERE I WOUND UP."

I DEVELOPED MECKISMS FOR

DEALING WITH PAIN AND TRYING TO

ESCAPE IT.

I DID A LOT OF DAMAGE OVER THE

COURSE OF MY LIFE.

SPORTS OFFERED ME A SANCTUARY IN

THAT REGARD.

IF I PUT IN THE TIME, I COULD BE

REALLY GOOD AT.

I ALWAYS FOUND REFUGE THERE.

REPORTER: HIS PARENTS

DIVORCED AT FIVE YEARS OLD.

HIS MOTHER WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AS A

TEENAGER HE MOVED IN WITH HIS

FATHER.

SOME NIGHTS HE STAYED AT A

FRIENDS HOUSE, OTHERS HE BROKE

INTO VACANT HOMES IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD AND SLEPT THERE.

I WOULD PARK AROUND THE

CORNER AND HIDE OUT.

I HAD IT DOWN.

AT LEAST THAT WAS A LONELINESS

OF MY CHOOSING.

AGAIN I HAD CONTROL.

THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF

PEACE I FELT IN THERE.

REPORTER: AS HE GOT OLDER, HE

AXELED IN SPORTS, IN 1996, HE

WON A BRONZE MEDAL AND DRAFTED

BY THE TEXAS RANGERS.

RANGERS OFFERED HIM AN $800,000

CONTRACT UNTIL THEY NOTICE HIS

ARM WAS HANGING FUNNY.

THE GENERAL SAID WE WANT YOU

TO GET A SECOND OPINION.

DOCTORS NOTICED HE WAS

MISSING THE OWNER COLLATERAL

LIGAMENT IN HIS PITCHING ARM.

HE SAID HE SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO

TURN A DOORKNOB WITHOUT PAIN LET

ALONE THROW A BASEBALL.

WHEN I SAT DOWN ACROSS THE

DESK FROM DOUG.

HE SAID I AM SORRY, WE ARE

TAKING THAT AWAY.

I STOOD UP, SHOOK HIS HAND AND

WALKED OUT.

THE RANGERS SLASHED THEIR

OFFER BY OVER 90 PERCENT.

DICKEY SIGNED ANY WAY.

HE NEVER EXPERIENCED ARM

PROBLEMS, HIS CAREER WAS @@@

DISAPPOINTING.

THE KNUCKLE BALL IS THE

HARDEST PITCH.

R.A. DICKEY WASN'T ONE OF THEM.

A SWING AND LONG BLAST TO

LEFT FIELD THIS IS ANOTHER TIGER

HOME RUN.

IN HIS FIRST AND ONLY START

FOR THE RANGERS, R.A. DICKEY

GAVE UP A MAJOR LEAGUE RECORDú

SIX HOME RUNS IN ONE GAME.

HE WAS PROMPTLY SENT TO THE

MINERS.

PEOPLE PRETEND THEY DON'T

HEAR THE CROWD.

IT IS A LONELY PLACE.

YOU FEEL @ LIKE IT IS ALL@= FORú

NOTHING.

WITH HIS CAREER@@@@ ú úú INú

AND LIFE@ñp HAUNTEDEDtata BY TH.

R.A. DICKEY WENT TO A COUNSELOR

AND DECIDED TO REVEAL

EVERYTHING.

I WAS DEALING WITH SUICIDAL

THOUGHTS TO ANY KIND OF ESCAPE I

COULD THINK OF CROSSED MY MIND.

GOD USED THAT MAN TO SAVE MY

LIFE.

REPORTER: AFTER DEALING WITH

HIS PAIN HIMSELF, HE ASKED FOR

GOD'S HELP AND HE ANSWER.

HE SAID YOU HAVE BEEN RUNNING

AND HIDING LUNG LONG ENOUGH.

I TOOK A STEP OF FAITH SAYING I

WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED.

IT WAS ENORMOUS.

SOMEBODY TOOK THE WORLD OFF MY

SHOULDERS.

WITH A RENEWED FOCUS ON LIFE

R.A. DICKEY CONTINUED TO PLAY

BASEBALL AND O4i :z: TAMED THE@

BALL.

IN 2010, AGE OF 35, JOINED NEW

YORK METS ANDúúQ POSTED ONE OF

BEST @ERA'S IN THE LEAGUE.

SPENT A LIFETIME TRYING TO

CONTROL THINGS.

IT WASN'T WORKING.

GOD BROUGHT ME TO A PLACE WHERE

HE SAID ENOUGH, GIVE IT UP.

SURRENDER IT.

THE MORE I TRUSTED GOD, THE

BIGGER HE GOT.

REPORTER: R.A. DICKEY

ASCENDED KILIMANJARO, HE DEALT

WITH HALLUCINATIONS AND

SHORTNESS OF BREATH.

HE WOULDN'T STOP.

AS A FELLOW VICTIM OF SEXUAL

ABUSE, HE KNEW HE HAD TO HELP.

I THOUGHT ABOUT AS DARK AND

COLD AS I MIGHT BE, HOW DARK AND

COLD ARE THEY IN THE BROTHELS OF

MUMBAI AND RED LIGHT DISTRICTS?

REPORTER: THE NEW YORK METS

WERE GETTING READY FOR ANOTHER

SEASON.

HIS WIFE WAS CARING FOR THE

NEWEST EDITION TO THEIR FAMILY,

THEIR FOURTH CHILD.

ACROSS THE WORLD BOMBAY TEAM

CHALLENGE RAISED MORE THAN

$100,000 BECAUSE OF THE CRIME.

ON A CHILLY JANUARY MORNING R.A.

DICKEY REACHED THE TOP OF THE

MOUNTAIN AND LOOKED DOWN.

GOD HAS HAD SOMETHING BETTER.

ONLY IN REFLECTION CAN YOU

REALLY SEE IT, YOU KNOW.

HE HAS GIVEN ME NOT JUST A

SECOND CHANCE BUT THIRD AND

FOURTH AND FIFTH CHANCE TO

INFINITY.

WHAT A SAVIOR.

THAT IS WHO HE IS TO ME.

HE IS A SAVIOR.

IT IS JUST SUCH A SWEET

RELATIONSHIP.

TERRY: AMAZING STORY, ISN'T

IT?

AMAZING STORY OF HEALING AND

LETTING GO, SURRENDERING.

COMING CLOSE TO GOD ALLOWING HIM

TO BE CLOSE TO HIM.

IF YOU HAVE HAD SOMEBODY THAT

HAS VIOLATING YOU IN SOME WAY,

LETTING GO OF CONTROL AND

LETTING GOD REALLY BE WHO HE

WANTS TO BE, THAT IS SCARY.

SOMETHING ABOUT BEING VIOLATED

SEXUALLY THAT CAUSES THE PERSON

WHO IS A VICTIM TO FEEL SHAME

FILLED.

THAT SHAME CAN KEEP YOU FROM

LETTING GOD COME IN AND HEAL THE

VERY THING THAT IS A DEEP WOUND

IN YOUR LIFE.

I LOVE SO MUCH WHAT R.A. SAY,

THE CLOSER TO GOD THE BIGGER HE

GETS.

MORE THEN THAT HE IS VERY

LOVING.

VERY LOVING.

HIS DESIRE FOR YOU TO SURRENDER

IS NOT SO HE CAN GO I GOT YA!

OR I WIN.

HE IS THE ANSWER TO ALL OF THE

PAIN, ALL OF THE NEED TO KNOW

WHO YOU ARE, TO ALL OF THE LIGHT

FOR YOUR FUTURE, HOPE FOR YOUR

TOMORROW, IT IS HIM.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING HE IS GOING

TO GIVE YOU, IT IS HIM, HIMSELF.

SO HE WANTS TO COME INTO THOSE

HIDDEN PLACES, THOSE DARK

CORNERS IN YOUR LIFE, INTO THOSE

PLACES OF DEEP WOUNDING.

HE WANTS TO BE YOUR ALL IN ALL.

HE WANTS TO LOVE YOU.

LOVE YOU TO THE MAX.

BUT IT IS UP TO YOU, WILL YOU

LET HIM COME IN AND DO THAT?

IF YOU HAVE THINGS IN YOUR LIFE

THAT YOU HAVE BEEN HIDING OR

ALLOWING YOU NOT TO RECEIVE ALL

THE LOVE THAT GOD HAS TO GIVE,

MOST OF THE TIME THAT MEANS WE

ARE NOT RECEIVING FROM PEOPLE

AROUND US.

WE ARE BUSY MISMANAGING OUR

ANGER AND PAIN AND FRUSTRATION,

TODAY GOD HAS AN INVITATION TO

YOU, DRAW CLOSE TO ME.

I'LL DRAW CLOSE TO YOU.

GOD'S PROMISE TO YOU IS, HE WILL

BE EVERYTHING YOU NEED,

EVERYTHING YOU NEED.

THAT IS WHY HE SAID HIS NAME IS

I AM.

I AM YOUR PEACE, I AM YOUR

HEALING, I AM YOUR TRUTH.

I AM EVERYTHING YOU NEED.

WE WERE CREATED TO BE IN THAT

KIND OF TIGHT, DEEP INDEPENDENT

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

HE IS NO RESPECTER OF PERSONS.

DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER YOU ARE

THE VICTIM OR PERPETRATOR.

GOD IS THERE FOR EACH AND EVERY

ONE OF US.

IT STARTS WITH THIS, CALL UPON

THE NAME OF THE LORD.

CALL OUT TO HIM.

IN YOUR NEED CRY OUT AND SAY

GOD.

I AM A SINNER IN NEED OF A

SAVIOR, JESUS.

SAVE ME FROM MY OWN SIN.

HELP ME TO MOVE TO THE PLACE

WHERE I CAN RECEIVE YOU.

I WANT FORGIVENESS FROM ME.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP AND

EXTEND FORGIVENESS TO THOSE THAT

HAVE HURT ME.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE

LOVE AND GIVE LOVE.

ASK HIM FOR THAT.

HE IS NOT JUST ABLE, HE IS

WAITING.

GOD LOVES YOU SO MUCH, GIVE HIM

EVERYTHING YOU ARE AND ALL THAT

YOU HAVE.

IT IS LIKE STANDING AT THE TOP

OF A MOUNTAIN AND LOOKING DOWN

AND SAYING WHAT OF YOU.

THIS IS WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT.

IT IS WHAT YOU WERE CREATED FOR.

IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC NEED IN

YOUR LIFE AND WOULD LIKE SOMEONE

TO PRAY FOR YOU, CALL THE TOLL

FREE NUMBER, 1-800-759-0700.

IT IS SOMEBODY THAT HAS ALREADY

PRAYED THIS PRAYER, PLEASE CALL

NOW.

PAT?

PAT: THANKS SO MUCH.

IT CAUSES ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION,

LEADS TO HEART ATTACKS, CAN

BRING ON PREMATURE ALZHEIMER'S

DISEASE YET WIDELY PRESCRIBED BY

DOCTORS AND ADVERTISED ALL OVER

AMERICA, WE ARE GOING TO TELL

YOU WHEN LORIE JOHNSON COMES ON

WITH THE HEALTH WATCH.

BUT FIRST WE ARE GOING TO PRAY

FOR OUR COUNTRY.

WE WANT YOU TO JOIN US, LATER

WE'LL HEAR WHAT YOUR DOCTOR MAY

NOT BE TELLING YOU.

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TERRY: YOU ARE JOINING US

RIGHT NOW AS WE STAND BEFORE

THIS GREAT FLAG.

WE WANT TO PRAY FOR OUR NATION,

PRAY FOR AMERICA.

WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE

FACT THAT WE ARE ON THE FRONT

SIDE OF AN ELECTION.

WE ARE WANTING TO PRAY FOR OUR

NATION FOR DIRECTION, GUIDANCE,

FOR GOD'S BLESSING.

PAT: WE HAVE A QUARTER OF A

MILLION THAT SAID THEY WOULD

PRAY.

THAT IS A HUGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE

JOINED TOGETHER FOR THIS NATION.

I THINK PEOPLE FEEL IT.

WE CAN'T CONTINUE WHAT THIS

NATION IS GOING ON.

WE HAVE FOUR MORE YEARS DOING

THIS SAME THING.

THIS NATION IS DOOMED.

WE CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT BURDEN OF

DEBT THAT WE HAVE ACCUMULATED.

SO PLEASE PRAY, JOIN WITH US,

TERRY AND I.

TERRY: YOU MENTIONED A

QUARTER OF A MILLION OF PEOPLE.

I AM PRAYING CHRISTIANS WOULD

TITHE THEIR TIME AND PRAY.

SOMEONE ELSE THAT CHRISTIANS

WILL EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO

VOTE.

PAT: FATHER, WE JOIN HANDS

TOGETHER, I THANK YOU IN JESUS'

NAME WE PRAY FOR AMERICA.

NOT BECAUSE WE DESERVE IT, BUT

WE ASK BECAUSE OF YOUR MERCY,

LORD, BECAUSE OF YOUR LOVE, MAY

THE ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

COME UPON THIS LAND AND MAY YOUR

WILL BE DONE THAT WE MIGHT BE

ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

AMEN.

TERRY: AMEN.

I WANT TO SAY ALSO, IF YOU

HAVEN'T RECEIVED STEP THREE

BIBLE IN AMERICA.

YOU CAN GET IT BY CALLING THE

NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN.

YOU MAY HAVE BEEN TOLD YOU NEED

TO CUT THE CHOLESTEROL TO WARD

OFF HEART DISEASE.

WE ARE GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT

YOU NEED TO AVOID IN STEAD, ALL

OF THAT WHEN WE RETURN.

X@÷÷

WELCOME BACK TO "700 CLUB."

THE HEAD OF THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD OHS POLITICAL PARTY

IN EGYPT SAYS HIS GOAL IS TO

INSTITUTE SHARIA LAW.

SAAD ALKATANY.

NORTHERN IRELAND IS THE ONLY

PART OF THE UK THAT HASN'T

LEGALIZED ABORTION ON DEMAND.

IT PLANS TO OFFER THE ABORTION

PILL TO WOMEN LESS THAN NINE

WEEKS PREGNANT.

ONLY IF A DOCTOR DETERMINES

THEIR RISK OF DEATH OR LONG TERM

HEALTH DAMAGE FROM THEIR

PREGNANCY.

YOU CAN GET THE LATEST BY GOING

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THIS.

PAT: OVER THE YEARS I HAVE

GONE TO A FEW OF THE ITALIAN

RESTAURANTS.

THEY HAVE MINESTRONI SOUP.

PEOPLE ARE LOSING WEIGHT.

TELL US ABOUT IT.

TERRY: I HAVE ONE PERSON,

SHE SAYS I ATE FIVE BOWLS, I

LOST FIVE POUNDS, WHO KNEW.

PAT: WOW!

TERRY: IT WAS DELICIOUS,

PAT.

I WAS HERE THE DAY YOU MADE IT.

PAT: YOU WERE.

TERRY: GREAT THING ABOUT

SOUP, YOU CAN MAKE A GIGANTIC

POT, EAT IT FOR DAYS, FREEZE IT

AND HAVE IT AT A LATER DATE.

IT IS PRACTICAL.

PAT: SO HEALTHY.

THIS IS COMING IN THE MAIL.

THANKFULNESS, IT IS A

THANKSGIVING LETTER.

INSIDE THE LETTER IS GOING TO BE

THE RECIPE FOR PAT'S MINESTRONI

SOUP AND PICTURE OF ME IN A RED

DAVE THOMAS.

IT IS YOUR COLOR.

PAT: SO MUCH FOR THE SOUP.

LET'S TALK ABOUT HEART DISEASE.

THAT SOUP IS THE EXACT ANSWER TO

WHAT THESE PEOPLE ARE TALKING

ABOUT.

TAKE THIS SOUP AND YOU WON'T

HAVE INFLAMMATION.

HEART DISEASE IS AMERICA'S NO. 1

KILLER.

WHAT CAUSES IT?

FIRST DOCTORS SAID IT IS

CHOLESTEROL.

THEN WE HEARD ONLY BAD

CHOLESTEROL WAS THE PROBLEM, NOW

SOME LEADING CARDIOLOGISTS ARE

CHANGING THEIR DIAGNOSIS AGAIN.

OUR LORIE JOHNSON HAS THAT

STORY.

REPORTER: IN THE FIGHT FOR

BETTER HEALTH, AMERICANS VIEW

CHOLESTEROL AS PUBLIC ENEMY NO.

1.

DOCTORS TELL US TO STAY AWAY

FROM FOOD HIGH IN SATURATED FAT

LIKE BUTTER, EGGS AND MEAT

BECAUSE IT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR

HEART DISEASE.

BUT WHAT IF THAT IS WRONG?

CHOLESTEROL WAS FOUND AT THE

SCENE OF THE CRIME FOR HEART

DISEASE.

IT IS NOT THE PERPETRATOR.

REPORTER: CARDIOLOGIST

BELIEVE IT IS INFLAMMATION WHICH

CAN BE CAUSED BY EATING TOO MUCH

SUGAR.

SINATRA ADMITS A SMALL FRACTION

OF CHOLESTEROL IS BAD BECAUSE IT

IS INFLAMMATORY, BUT IT IS GOOD

FOR YOU.

MANY TIMES IT IS A GIFT IN

DISGUISE.

REPORTER: SINCE HALF OF ALL

PATIENTS HOSPITALED HAVE HIGH

CHOLESTEROL, THAT MEANS THE

OTHER HALF HAS LOW CHOLESTEROL.

I WAS DOING ANGIOGRAMS.

REPORTER: THEY PRESCRIBED

LOWER STATTEN DRUGS.

SINATRA SAYS ONLY A SMALL

PERCENTAGE NEEDS THEM.

HE PRESCRIBED IT FOR MIDDLE AGED

MEN LIKE ALBERT TAZ.

I AM NOT FEELING ANY WORSE

FOR WEAR.

REPORTER: A SMALL PERCENTAGE

OF WOMEN CAN BENEFIT.

FOR MANY STATTEN USERS, THE

RISKS OUTWEIGH THE GAINS.

SIDE EFFECTS ARE GROSSLY

UNDERREPORTED.

MUSCLE PAIN AND FATIGUE ARE

TWO KEY COMPLAINTS.

DOCK, I CAN'T GET OUT OF A

CHAIR.

I CAN'T PLAY DOUBLES TENNIS.

THESE ARE STATTEN SIDE EFFECTS.

THE PATIENTS THINK THEY ARE

GETTING OLDER.

THESE ARE STATTEN SIDE EFFECTS.

REPORTER: PATIENTS OVER 70

ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE.

THEY CAN'T REMEMBER NAMES OR

WHERE THEY PUT THEIR KEYS.

IF YOU TAKE A STATTEN, IT CAN

BRING ON THE ONSET OF

ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE BY 15 YEARS.

REPORTER: STATTENS MAY OR MAY

NOT BE RIGHT FOR YOU.

REDUCING INFLAMMATION IS GOOD

FOR YOUR HEART NO MATTER WHO YOU

ARE.

BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS CUT BACK

ON SUGAR.

CHOLESTEROL IS SORT OF YOUR

FRIEND.

SUGAR IS THE FOE.

REPORTER: SUGAR DAMAGES

ARTERIES, INCREASES BLOOD

PRESSURE AND AGES ORGANS.

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT SODA

AND CANDY, ALSO FOOD THAT TURNS

INTO SUGAR AS SOON AS YOU EAT

IT, REFINED CARBOHYDRATES, WHITE

BREAD, PASTA AND WHITE RICE.

68-YEAR-OLD JOAN JACKSON IS

PROOF THAT A LOW SUGAR DIET

IMPROVES YOUR HEART.

AT ONE POINT SHE NEEDED A HEART

TRANSPLANT.

I FEEL GREAT.

I AM NOT GOING TO SAY I FEEL 16.

I FEEL I CAN ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING

I WANT TO.

HER SECRET, GOOD OLD

FASHIONED SELF-CONTROL.

WHEN I WANT THE LAST PIECE OF

PIE OR CANDY.

SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SAY NO.

DOCTOR SINATRA PRESCRIBES HIS

HEALTHIEST PATIENTS THOSE THAT

AVOID SUGAR AND REFINED

CARBOHYDRATES AND FILL UP ON

FATS.

HE HIGHLY RECOMMENDS UNSATURATED

FATS LIKE NUTS, AVOCADOS,

UNPROCESSED MEAT AND COCONUT

OIL.

COCONUT OIL IS A SATURATED

FAT.

IT IS LESS PRONE TO OXIDATION.

STAY AWAY FROM ADDED FAT AND

ADDED TO MOST PACKAGED FOODS.

REMEMBER TO PAY CLOSE ATTENTION

TO THE INGREDIENTS IN YOUR FOOD,

WORD HYDROGENATED IS YOUR RED

FLAG BECAUSE THAT MEANS

TRANSFAT.

WHILE DOCTORS MAY DISAGREE

WHETHER CHOLESTEROL CAUSES HEART

DISEASE, ONE THING IS CERTAIN,

IF YOU GO EASY ON SUGAR AND

TRANSFATS, YOU ARE HEADED IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION.

PAT: WONDERFUL PEACE, LORI.

GET OFF OF STATTENS.

I AM TELLING YOU SOMEBODY TRIED

TO GET ME TO TAKE CRESTOR.

NO. 1 OAT BRAN, NO. 2 LESSATIN.

THAT WILL TAKE DOWN CHOLESTEROL

IF THAT IS A PROBLEM.

LORI IS WITH US.

THAT WAS A GREAT PIECE.

VERY INTERESTING.

WE INTRIGUE, THESE STATTENS ARE

DEADLY.

REPORTER: DR. SINATRA WHO IS

RELATED TO FRANK SINATRA.

PAT: I WAS WONDERING.

REPORTER: YOU CAN TELL HE IS

FROM NEW YORK.

HE IS SO OUT THERE AND BRAZEN.

HE COMPARES PRESCRIBING STATTENS

TO BLOOD LETTING FROM 200 YEARS

AGO.

ALL THE DOCTORS, THE DISEASES

WERE REAL AND THE DOCTORS

THOUGHT THAT WAS THE TREATMENT.

SLOWLY BUT SURELY, THEY ALL

REALIZE THAT WAS THE WRONG

TREATMENT.

PAT: I HAD A DOCTOR THAT SAID

IT WAS THE GREATEST THING EVER

CONCEIVED OF.

THEY ALL PUT THEIR WILLY NILLY

ALL THEIR PATIENTS.

THINK OF THE SIDE EFFECTS.

ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION IS NOT FUN

FOR MEN TO HAVE.

REPORTER: THAT IS NO LAUGHING

MATTER.

NO FUN FOR THE WOMEN, EITHER.

[LAUGHTER].

JUST GUESS HOW MANY DOLLARS

WORTH OF STATTENS ARE SOLD BY

THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES

EVERY YEAR?

PAT: TEN BILLION?

REPORTER: KEEP GOING?

PAT: 30 BILLION DOLLARS?

REPORTER: THERE YOU.

"GREAT CHOLESTEROL MYTH."

ONLY $10 ON AMAZON.

IT IS DEFINITELY FOOD FOR

THOUGHT.

PAT: THIS IS SOMETHING.

THEY GAVE ME THE WRONG KIND.

KOKU 10.

YOUR HEART NEEDS IT TO BE

HEALTHY.

REPORTER: CO CU 10, OUR

BODIES MAKE IT NATURALLY, A

VITAMIN-LIKE SUBSTANCE.

STATTENS REDUCE THAT.

IF YOU ARE ON A STATTEN, YOU

MUST TAKE COCU10.

I KNOW YOU DISAGREE.

200 MILLIGRAMS, 10 0 MILLIGRAMS

IN THE MORNING AND NIGHT.

LAST 50 MILLIGRAMS OF THE COCU10

BECAUSE OUR BODY REDUCES

PRODUCTION AS WE AGE.

ASIDE FROM CHOLESTEROL AND

STATTEN ISSUE WHICH IS

CONTROVERSIAL, INFLAMMATION

ISSUE IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL.

THIS IS SOMETHING I FEEL THAT

PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING THE

MESSAGE.

INFLAMMATION IS THE KILLER.

IT IS TIED TO CANCER, DIABETES,

AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE.

HOW MANY POUNDS OF SUGAR DOES

THE AVERAGE PERSON EAT A YEAR?

PAT: 156 POUNDS.

REPORTER: 200 YEARS AGO THE

AVERAGE AMERICAN ATE 20 POUNDS

OF SUGAR.

WHEN YOU ARE AT THE GROCERY

STORE, DON'T BELIEVE THE STUFF

YOU READ ON THE FRONT OF THE

PACKAGE, A LOT OF THAT IS

MISLEADING.

WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS GO

STRAIGHT FOR THE LIST OF

INGREDIENTS AND LOOK FOR SUGAR,

THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE

SUGARS NOT CALLED SUGAR LIKE

WHAT IS THE BIG ONE?

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE?

PAT: WHAT?

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.

DON'T YOU LOVE HOW I PUT YOU ON

THE SPOT?

YOU DO THIS TO TERRY AND KRISTI?

DON'T BUY IT.

WITH TRANSFATS, DON'T BUY FOODS

WITH TRANSFATS.

PAT: I WAS BLASTING HIGH

FRUCTOSE.

DOCTOR SINATRA ISN'T TOO KEEN ON

THAT.

REPORTER: WHETHER IT IS

SUGAR, HIGH FROEK TOES DEXTROSE,

ALL THOSE THINGS ARE SUGAR.

IF THEY ARE IN THE LIST OF

INGREDIENTS, DON'T BUY IT.

DON'T BUY IT IF IT HAS A

TRANSFAT.

WHAT IS THE KEY WORD FOR

TRANSFAT?

PAT: HYDROGENATED.

REPORTER: GOOD WAY TO

REMEMBER IS THAT IS AN OIL THAT

HAS FUSED WITH HYDROGEN.

ONE MOLECULE DIFFERENT FROM

PLASTIC.

I KNOW GOD DOESN'T INTEND FOR US

TO EAT PLASTIC.

REPORTER: I USED TO PUSH

SWEET IN LOW.

I INTO THE STEVEIA.

DON'T TELL ME THERE IS SOMETHING

YOU FOUND ABOUT STEVEIA.

REPORTER: WE DON'T NEED

SUGAR.

WE DEFINITELY DON'T NEED

TRANSFATS.

CUT BACK.

PAT: WHATEVER IT IS, MAKE MY

SOUP!

REPORTER: YOUR SOUP TAKES A

LONG TIME TO EAT.

YOU CAN'T GOBBLE UP SOUP LIKE

YOU CAN'T SOMETHING ELSE ALSO

CHEAP.

PAT: "THE GREAT CHOLESTEROL

MYTH."

IT IS DYNAMITE.

YOU MEN, WHO NEEDS ERECTILE

DYSFUNCTION FROM TAKEN MEDICINE.

REPORTER: YOU ARE FOCUSSED ON

THAT ONE SYMPTOM.

BRAIN FOG.

MUSCLE ACHE.

YOU ARE SUCH A GUY.

PAT: MORE AFTER THIS, STAY

TUNED.

TERRY: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

KNOW MORE ABOUT THE INFORMATION

WE SHARED TODAY, WE HAVE A FACT

SHEET, CHOLESTEROL FRIEND OR

FOE, CALL THE TOLL FREE NUMBER

ON YOUR SCREEN.

THERE IT IS, 1-800-759-0700.

UP NEXT PAT IS GOING TO ANSWER

E-MAIL QUESTIONS, DO WE GO TO

HEAVEN IMMEDIATELY WHEN WE DIE

OR STAY IN THE GROUND.

STAY TUNED FOR ANOTHER EDITION

OF BRING IT ON.

THAT IS NEXT.@@P@P@@

PAT

TERRY: WE HAVE YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS, FIRST FROM CYNTHIA,

DO WE LIE IN THE GROUND UNTIL

JESUS COMES BACK?

IF WE LIE IN THE GROUND WHAT

ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT REPORT

GOING TO HEAVEN.

PAT: APOSTLE SAYS IF YOU ARE

ALIVE YOU REMAIN IN THE FLESH,

WHEN YOU DIE, YOUR SPIRIT GOES

TO BE WITH THE LORD.

YOUR BODY AWAITS THE

RESURRECTION.

YOUR IMMORTAL SPIRIT GOES TO THE

LORD ASSUMING YOU KNOW HIM.

OTHERWISE IT WILL GO TO SOME

HOLDING PLACE WAITING FOR FINAL

JUDGMENT.

PAT: THIS IS ROBERT, I HAVE

WATCHED YOUR SHOW SINCE

CHILDHOOD.

YOUR GOAL IS TO SPREAD THE WORD.

DON'T YOU THINK AFTER ALL THESE

YEARS OF YOUR SHOW BEING ON THE

AIR, EVERY PERSON HAS BEEN

REACHED?

WHY HASN'T THE LORD COME BACK

YET?

PAT: HE IS COMING SOON.

TERRY: LOTS OF PLACES THAT

HAVEN'T BEEN REACHED.

PAT: PRETTY UNIVERSAL,

AMAZING THE SPREAD OF THE

GOSPEL, THE REMOTEST PARTS OF

THE AMAZON.

STILL PEOPLE, BUT GETTING CLOSE.

IT IS GETTING CLOSE.

TIME IS GOING TO COME.

I THINK WE SHOULD LIVE OUR LIFE

IN ANTICIPATION JESUS MIGHT COME

TODAY.

TERRY: THIS IS DANIEL, TELL

ME ABOUT THE NEW LIVING

TRANSLATION, THE PASTOR PREACHES

FROM NLT.

I HAVE RESEARCHED IT AND OMITS

MANY VERSES FROM THE KJV.

IT APPEARS IT DENIES THE DEITY

OF CHRIST.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THIS IS A

SHOW STOPPER FOR CHOOSING THIS

CHURCH OF A CHURCH HOME.

PAT: IT IS SOMETHING WE PUT

OUT THE COPY OF THE BIBLE.

WE CALL IT "THE BOOK."

IT IS A PARAPHRASE OF THE GREEK

AND HEBREW THAT MAKES IT EASIER

TO UNDERSTAND.

I KNOW THAT GUY THAT DID THE

WORK.

WONDERFUL MAN OF GOD.

THIS IS TRUE TO THE WORD.

I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU ARE

TALKING ABOUT.

TERRY: HAVE YOU HEARD IT

DENIES THE DEITY OF CHRIST?

PAT: IT JUST DOESN'T.

THE PEOPLE ATTEND ARE MARVELOUS

PEOPLE IN NEW LIVING.

IT IS NOT DIRECTLY, IF YOU ARE A

STUDENT OR GREEK OR HEBREW, SOME

OF THOSE OTHER BIBLES ARE CLOSER

TO THE ACTUAL LITERAL

UNDERSTANDING OF THE BIBLE.

OTHER IS SO EASY TO READ AND

WONDERFUL.

TERRY: CONVERSATIONAL.

THIS IS CARE, IT BOTHERS ME THE

INCESTUAL WAY WE STARTED THE

WORLD, IF INCEST IS SIN NOW, WHY

WASN'T IT THEN?

PAT: THERE WAS NO OTHER SIN,

JUST DON'T EAT THE FRUIT.

THEY COULD DO WHAT IS IT

NATURAL.

YOU HAVE TO GET TO RACE

STARTEDED SOME HOW.

PROBLEM WITH INCEST, IF THEY ARE

BAD GENES AND MATCH UP TOGETHER,

YOU CAN HAVE DEFORMED OFFSPRING,

THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS OF

BREEDING IN TOO CLOSELY.

IN THE EARLY DAYS.

THERE WAS NO OTHER CHOICE, TWO

PEOPLE AND HAD TO HAVE CHILDREN.

THE CHILDREN HAD TO HAVE

CHILDREN.

THERE WASN'T SIN.

IT WASN'T A SIN.

WITHOUT A LAW THERE WAS NO SIN.

GOD DIDN'T SAY YOU SHOULDN'T DO

IT.

HE SAID JUST DON'T EAT THE

FRUIT.

THAT WAS THE ONLY LAW.

TERRY: THIS IS BEVERLY.

THEY ARE TEACHING US THE OLD

SCHOOL TEXT WRITTEN IN 950 B.C.

THUS THE TEXT IS WRITTEN AFTER

THE PROPHECIES.

THEY USE THIS REASONING THAT THE

PROPHECIES MIGHT NOT BE TRUE.

I BELIEVE THE TEXT AND STORIES

HANDED DOWN THROUGH GENERATIONS

AND THEN PUT IN TEXT.

PAT: I THINK YOU ARE RIGHT.

PEOPLE GIVE THOSE STORIES FROM

GENERATION TO GENERATION AND

FINALLY WRITTEN DOWN.

BUT TO SAY 950.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GET THAT.

THE TIME OF MOSES, YOU LOOK AT

THAT AND THAT IS WELL, 2000 B.C.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ABRAHAM WAS IN THAT TIME PERIOD.

MOSES ACTUALLY 1300 B.C. WHEN

THEY CAME OUT OF EGYPT.

HE HAD ORAL TRADITIONS AND WROTE

THE SO-CALLED BOOKS.

TOMORROW WE HAVE BENNY HIN,

TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH PSALM

107: OH GIVE THANKS TO THE LORD

FOR HE IS GOOD.

HIS MERCY ENDURES FOREVER.

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US, GOD

BLESS YOU.

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