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700 Club Interactive: History of the Salem Witch Trail- October 29, 2012

Join Gordon and Terry Meeuwsen as 'Paranormal Week' begins with a discussion of the history behind the Salem Witch Trials. Read Transcript


ON "THE 700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE"

WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY FOR

EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE TOPICS

THAT MATTER TO YOU. WATCH WHAT

GOD IS DOING IN THE WORLD

TODAY.

HI EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO A

SPECIAL EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB

INTERACTIVE". WELL, THIS WEEK

WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THE

UNEXPLAINABLE. SCIENCE CALL IT

SAYS THE PARANORMAL.

FOR CENTURIES MAN HAS TRIED

TO SEE IT AND CULTURES AROUND

THE GLOB GLOBE TRY TO TALK TO

THE

DEAD. A FEW HUNDRED YEARS THE

RESIDENTS OF SALEM

MASSACHUSETTS

ACCUSED ONE ANOTHER OF BEING A

WITCH AND 19 PEOPLE WERE

SENTENCED TO DIE AND HISTORIANS

BELIEVE NOTHING MORE THAN

PARANOIA AND MASS

HYSTERIA. TAKE A LOOK.

WHY DO YOU HURT THESE FOUR

CHILDREN?

I DON'T HURT THEM AT ALL.

WHAT FAMILIARITY DO YOU HAVE

WITH THE DEVIL?

I HAVE NOT HURT THEM.

ARE YOU AN INNOCENT PERSON

RELATING TO THIS WITCH CRAFT.

I AM INNOCENT.

I'M A HIS HISTORIAN OF

AMERICAN RELIGIOUS HISTORY

PRIMARILY IN AMERICA. I TEACH

MOST OF THAT BUT MOSTLY WRITE

ABOUT THE 17TH CENTURY HERE IN

NEW ENGLAND AND ENGLAND AND

WITCH CRAFT GOES BACK TO EXODUS

AND IN LATE MID-EVIL EUROPE IT

WAS REVIVED AS A MAJOR ISSUE

AND

IN ISRAEL AS WELL, SO THE

COLONISTS WERE BEING ORDINARY

DOING THE ORDINARY THING WHEN

THEY HAD THEIR INQUIRY WHO WAS

A

WITCH AND WHO WAS NOT. WITCH

CRAFT IS PRIMARILY A LEGAL

PROCESS WITH A STRONG SOCIAL

BASE. THAT SOCIAL BASE IN

SMALL

COMMUNITIES IN EARLY NEW

ENGLAND

PEOPLE INSULT EACH OTHER AND

YOU

INSULT THEM BY CALLING THAT

PERSON A WITCH.

I CAME TO SALEM AND I SPENT

JUST ABOUT THREE WEEKS HERE,

AND

DID A LOT OF RESEARCH, AND

THERE

WERE RECORDS, YOU KNOW, THAT

YOU

CAN READ, SO THERE WERE RECORDS

WHAT WERE CALLED THE

EXAMINATIONS AND WHICH WERE THE

PRETRIAL HEARINGS AND IT'S

WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE ALL

THESE

RECORDS. THE QUESTIONS BEING

ASKED BY THE MAGISTRATE AND THE

ANSWERS FROM THE WITCH SUSPECTS

WERE GIVING AND THEY MAKE VERY

DRAMATIC READING. THE

MAGISTRATE IS PRESSING THEM AND

SAYING OVER AND OVER AGAIN "DO

YOU NOT AFFLICT THESE CHILDREN?

SEE HOW THEY'RE AFFLICTED.

HAVE

YOU NOT MADE A

PACK WITH THE DEVIL AND SHE

SAYS

NO AND THERE OTHERSES TOO. YOU

COULD JUST TELL. SHE IS

GRASPING AT STRAWS. HE WILL

NOT

BLAME HER AND TRIES TO BLAME

SOMEBODY ELSE AND SHE DIDN'T DO

GOOD BYE THAT BECAUSE IF SHE

KNEW WHO WAS AFFLICTING THE

CHILDREN SHE MUST BE A WITCH

TOO.

FOR MOST OF US THE LEAST

UNDERSTANDABLE ASPECT IS 50

PEOPLE SAID IN COURT THEY WERE

WITCHING. WE CALL THEM THE

CONFESSING WITCHES. WE SAY WHY

WOULD SOMEONE CONFESS IF THEY

HADN'T SIGNED THE DEVIL'S

COMPACT AND NONE OF THESE

PEOPLE

HAD SIGNED IT AND A SIMPLE

ANSWER HAS TO BE A

PSYCHOLOGICAL

ANSWER AND THEY WERE SINNERS

TEMPTED AND THERE IS ONE LEGAL

ASPECT OF IT AND NONE OF

CONFESSING WITCHES WERE

MURDERED

AND IT WAS ADDRESSED FOR THE

OTHERS.

THE WHOLE VILLAGE HAD

DISSENSION ALREADY. PEOPLE

WERE

GUARDING EACH OTHER WITH

SUSPICION AND FEAR AND THINKING

THAT SOMEBODY THEY REALLY

DISLIKED ANYWAY MIKE A WITCH

AND

EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T WOULDN'T

IT

BE GOOD IF THEY WERE NAMED TO A

WITCH AND COULD LEAD TO THEIR

DESSTREKZ.

A MAN OR WOMAN WOULD TESTIFY

THAT WAS TORMENTED BY NO ONE

COULD SEE AND THE DEVIL COULD

INSERT IN PEOPLE AND DO BIZARRE

THINGS BUT NOT A LEGAL ROLE

UNTIL SALEM AND THAT IS THE THE

PROCESS.

ALL THE GIRL WHEN IS IT

CAMES

TO THE TRIALS WERE DOING THIS.

THEY MAY HAVE BEEN HYSTERICAL

BEFORE AND BEWITCHED BEFORE,

BUT

WHEN IT CAME TO THE

EXAMINATIONS

AND TRIALS THEY WERE PUTTING ON

A SHOW THEY KNEW THEY HAD TO

PUT

ON AND OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT BE

ACCUSED OF BEING WITCHES

THEMSELVES. WHEN IT DEVELOPED

IT REALLY WAS A POLITICAL

EPISODE. I MEAN -- OKAY, THE

WAY IT STARTED WASN'T, BUT WHEN

IT WENT ON IT CONTINUED BECAUSE

OF VILLAGE POLITICS AND TOWN

POLITICS, AND IN THE END

MASSACHUSETTS BAY POLITICS.

THAT'S WHAT DROVE THE WHOLE

EPISODE ON.

VERY EARLY THERE WAS THE

FEELING THAT TRADITIONAL ERRORS

WERE BEING MADE BUT HOW HARD IT

WAS TO STOP THIS THING. WHO

HAD

THE COURAGE TO SAY THIS IS

REALLY A TRAIN THAT RAN OFF THE

TRACKS. OCTOBER IS THE LAST

SESSION OF THE COURT AND THE

GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSETTS

SUSPENDS THE COURT AND IS AWARE

SOMETHING IS NOT GOING CORRECT

AND IN JANUARY THE REMAINING

PRISONERS ARE LET LOOSE.

SO IT ALL LIKE CAME TO A

END.

THERE WAS NO GREAT STATEMENT

FROM ANYBODY SAYING THIS IS ALL

BEEN THE MOST DREADFUL MISTAKE.

WE EXECUTED 20 INNOCENT PEOPLE.

WHAT I HOPE PEOPLE WOULD LEARN

IS HOW WITCH HUNTS HAPPEN. WE

CAN LEARN TO BE AWARE IF SUCH A

PROCESS SEEMS TO BE STARTING IN

A COMMUNITY AT ANY LEVEL. WHAT

IT IS ABOUT US THAT CAUSES US

TO

BECOME FEARFUL AND SUSPICIOUS

AND IRRATIONAL IN CERTAIN

SITUATIONS, AND END UP CAUSING

TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION.

WITCH HUNTS. THAT HAS COME

INTO OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE AS

SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T DO. IT

HAS BEEN APPLIED TO ALL

DIFFERENT KINDS OF

INVESTIGATIONS WHERE YOU'RE

ASSUMING GUILT BEFORE THERE IS

ANY PROOF. THERE IS A NOTED

THING THAT HAPPENED HERE.

COTTON MATHER WHO WAS ONE OF

THE

LEADING E VANNISTS MINISTERS OF

HIS DAY AND HARVARD EDUCATED

AND

CAME OUT WITH A PAMPHLET TO THE

COURT AND DON'T TAKE THIS KIND

OF EVIDENCE AND A WITNESS OF

WITCH CRAFT "I SAW THEIR IMAGE.

ASPECTOR OF THEM APPEARED IN MY

ROOM AND THAT'S WHEN I BECAME

BEWITCHED". IT'S HARD TO HAVE

ANY DFSES OF THAT. YOU CAN

LITERALLY MAKE THINGS UP. "I

SAW A VISION OF SO-AND-SO AND

THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT A SPELL

ON ME EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T

THERE AND UNTIL ANOTHER PART OF

THE CITY OR TOWN" . THAT IS

WHAT CONVICTED THE PEOPLE IN

SALEM OF WITCH CRAFT, THE

ADMISSION OF THIS KIND OF

EVIDENCE, SO IT CHANGED OUR

JURISPRUDENCE, OUR LANGUAGE,

HOW

WE VIEW THINGS AND THE QUESTION

IS WAS IT MASS HYSTERIA? WAS

IT

A GROUP OF GIRLS THAT MADE IT

UP? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WITCH

TRIALS PARTICULARLY IN EUROPE

AND YOU HEAR THE EYE WITNESS

TESTIMONY OF SOME OF THE THINGS

HAPPENED, THE BODILY CONTERKZS

OF PEOPLE INVOLVED YOU START TO

SCRATCH YOUR HEAD AND HOW DOES

ANY MASS HYSTERIA EXPLAIN THAT?

THE OTHER SIDE IT MADE SALEM

FAMOUS AND UP NEXT SALEM

MASSACHUSETTS HAS EMBRACED THE

TITLE "WITCH CITY". FIND OUT

WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM AFTER

THIS.

I STARTED FEELING PAIN

BETWEEN MY SPINE AND MY

SHOULDER

BLADE. ALL I HAD WAS PAIN AND

NO RELIEF. THERE WAS A

SIZABLE MASS IN UPPER

RIGHT LUNG. IT'S TOUGH STUFF.

I WAS TALKING, WALKING BUT I

DIDN'T KNOW HOW SICK I WAS.

I REMEMBER SEEING THE AD FOR

CANCER TREATMENT CENTERS FOR

AMERICA.

TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR

TREATMENT OPTIONS GO TO CANCER

CENTER.COM. YOU WILL SEE OUR

RESULTS FOR AND HOW THEY

COMPARE

TO NATIONAL AVERAGES.

THE GAME PLAN WAS

CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION. IT

WAS AGGRESSIVE PLAN OF ATTACK.

I LIKE THAT.

WE GAVE ME CHEMO AND

RADIATION. HE WAS AMAZING

PATIENT. HE TOLERATED

TREATMENT

WELL.

PUKNOW WE'RE DIFFERENT. YOU

KNOW WHEN IT YOU WALK INTO ONE

OF OUR HOSPITALS AND IT'S A

LEVEL OF COMPASSION THAT CANNOT

BE COPIED. WHY? OUR PEOPLE.

PEOPLE THAT GIVE NOT ONLY THEIR

EXPERTISE BUT HUMANITY IN A

THOUGHTFUL WELL ORGANIZED

PATIENT CENTER YOU WILL FIND

ANYWHERE.

I BECAME MYSELF AGAIN.

GEORGE HAS HIS LIFE BACK

AGAIN. HE HAS A LIFE I NEVER

THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE.

WITH THE TREATMENT, THE

FACILITIES, THE COMBINATION OF

THE ASPECTS OF TREATMENT I AM

SO

HAPPEN I WENT THERE.

EVERY MINUTE COUNTS WHEN

FIGHTING COMPLEX OR LAIJ STAGE

CANCER AND CALL US TODAY.

APPOINTMENTS ARE AVAILABLE

NOW.

CANCER TREATMENT CENTERS OF

AMERICA. CARE THAT NEVER QUITS.

SALEM MASSACHUSETTS IS

OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS THE WITCH

CITY AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE WHY

.

IT ALL BEGAN I THINK AS A

RESULT OF THE WITCH TRIALS

NEVER

HAVING A PROPER ENDING. THE

LAST FIVE TO BE EXONERATED WERE

EXONERATED IN 2001 SO IT WAS A

VERY SLE PROCESS SO THE IDEA

THERE REALLY HAD BEEN WITCHS IN

SALEM LIVED ON IN PEOPLE'S

MINDS. DURING THE 18TH CENTURY

AS EARLY AS THAT PEOPLE IN THE

CITY STARTED TO ACTUALLY

CAPITALIZE ON THIS ASSOCIATION.

YOU GOT A FISH MONGER IN THE

18TH CENTURY WHO ACTUALLY

TRAINED UNDER THE NAME "WITCH

CITY" AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL

BUSINESS PEOPLE USING WITCH

CITY

HAS THEIR TRADE NAME. THERE

WAS

AN OIRL FIRM, A BICYCLE

MANUFACTURER, A POPCORN

FACTORY,

SO YOU HAD THIS SORT OF

CARRYING

ON KEEPING THE PEOPLE ALIVE IN

PEOPLE'S MINDS. 20TH CENTURY

YOU BEGAN TO GET TOURISM. IN

THE 60'S SALEM WASN'T DOING

WELL

AS A TOWN BECAUSE A LOT OF THE

MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY THAT HAD

BEEN HERE WAS LEAVING. AT THE

BEGINNING OF THE 70'S LARRY CAB

ERT CAME TO SALEM. HE'S A SELF

PROCLAIMED WITCH WITH A GREAT

FLAIR FOR PR AND CONVINCED THE

GOVERNOR OF THE TIME IN A

CONFUSED MOMENT GIVE HER THE

TITLE OF WITCH OF SALEM AND

FOLLOWED BY LIKENS AND JUST

BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE

REINFORCED THE CONNECTION

BETWEEN SALEM AND WITCHES AND

NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING

HERE

WHO CLAIM TO BE WITCHES AND A

REASONABLE POPULATION OF SALEM

MASSACHUSETTS. EVEN THAT 20

INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE OF

ACTUAL ACCUSATIONS OF WITCH

CRAFT, THE FACT THAT PEOPLE

COME

FLOCKING TO SALEM NOW TO

CELEBRATE WITCH CRAFT IS

TREMENDOUSLY IRONIC. TERRIBLY

SAD TO THINK THAT SOMETHING SO

HORRENDOUS COULD HAPPEN AND

IT'S

JUST A MARKETING CAMPAIGN TODAY.

I THINK IT'S SOMETHING

DEEPER

THAN MARKETING. WHY DO WE LIKE

SCARY MOVIES?

YES AND THERE.

WHY DO WE GO THERE IN OUR

OWN

MINDS. I THINK IT POINTS OUT

SOMETHING ALL PEOPLE -- I

SHOULDN'T SAY ALL, A GROUP OF

PEOPLE WANT, AND THAT IS I WANT

THE SECRET POWER. I WANT TO BE

ABLE TO CAST SPELLS AND SEE

THINGS CHANGE, AND SO THERE'S A

REAL ALLURE TO THAT. I KNOW

FOR

ME I NEVER WANT TO BE ON THE

LOSING SIDE.

EXACTLY. READ THE END OF

THE

BOOK.

I READ THE END OF THE BOOK,

AND SO THESE SO-CALLED POWERS I

DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH

BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS A GATEWAY

INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE

GOOD FOR ME, BUT THE MORE I

MATURED IN THE FAITH THE MORE I

UNDERSTAND TODAY THE DEVIL HAS

NO POWER.

YEAH.

HE CAN BLUFF. HE CAN LIE.

HE CAN FRIGHTEN. HE CAN

TERRORIZE. HE CAN DO ALL THOSE

THINGS BUT CAN HE PHYSICALLY DO

ANYTHING? NOT AFTER THE CROSS

OF JESUS CHRIST HE CAN'T. HE

DOESN'T HAVE ANY POWER.

CAPTIVITY HAS LEAD CAPTIVE. HE

IS A DEFEATED FOE AND THE MORE

WE REALIZE THAT AS CHRISTIANS

AND TAKE THE AUTHORITY GIVEN TO

US. IF YOU WANT TO SUPER

NATURAL EXPERIENCES THEY'RE

PLENTY. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS

ASK GOD FOR THEM AND ASK THE

HOLY SPIRIT TO COME AND SHOW

YOU

THINGS. HE WILL LEAD YOU INTO

ALL TRUTH?

A. HE WON'T LIE TO YOU. HE

WON'T TRY TO DESRECEIVE YOU AND

ROB AND STEAL AND DESTROY. HE

WILL BLESS YOU AND THERE ARE

PLENTY WITHIN THE WONDERFUL

GOODNESS OF GOD.

YEA. I AM SURPRISED EVEN IN

OUR AREA OCCASIONALLY YOU WILL

SEE'S SIGN OUTSIDE OF A PRIVATE

HOME THAT SOMEONE IS --

PSYCHIC, TARO CARDS.

YEAH.

AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.

WHATEVER.

LET'S ROLL THE BONE.

YEAH.

AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THE

CULTURES. THEY ALL HAVE THIS

WHETHER IT'S CHINA. THEY HAVE

THE ORACLE BONES FROM THOUSANDS

YEARS AGO. THEY HAVE THE

ORACLE

OF DELPHI . CAN WE LOOK INTO

THE FUTURE? YOU'RE GOING TO

MEET A TALL DARK STRANGEER AND

SWEEP YOU OFF YOUR FEET AND ALL

OF THIS STUFF AND IT'S WEAVING

NONSENSE.

AND THE WORD HAS A LOT TO

SAY

ABOUT IT.

DON'T DO IT.

COMING UP LIFE A REAL LIFE

WARLOCK AND HIS JOURNEY TO

SALVATION AFTER THIS.

MY DAUGHTER OPENED AND

SLAMMED DURING THE NIGHT

WINDOWS

CLOSED.

TO DEMONIC ENCOUNTERS.

DURING HIGH SCHOOL YEARS.

TO SALEM WITCH TRY

TRIALS.

20 PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE

SWITCHS.

THIS WEEK ON "THE 700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE".

IF YOU'RE THE MOTHER OF A

CHILD WITH BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS

I

WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU. I

AM

JANET LEEMAN AND I'M A

BEHAVIORAL THEORIST AND A MOM.

I KNOW WHEN A

CHILD DISRESPECTS YOU. THAT'S

WHY MY HUSBAND AND I CREATED

TOTAL TRANSFORMATION AND MOMS

ARE USING TO TURN AROUND THEIR

CHILD'S BEHAVIOR. IF YOU

WONDERED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND

WHETHER IT WILL WORK FOR YOU

NOW

YOU CAN TRY IF FOR FREE. I AM

WILLING TO GIVE AWAY A THOUSAND

PROGRAMS AWAY FOR FREE. ALL

YOU

NEED TO DO IS GED THE PROGRAM

AND LET US KNOW HOW TO WORKS

FOR

YOU. I KNOW IT WORKS BECAUSE I

USED THESE TECHNIQUES WITH MY

OWN SON AND TROUBLED KIDS FOR

30

YEARS. .

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THIS TOPIC PROMOTED INTEREST

IN OUR CHAT ROOM. "I WATCH A

SCARY MOVIE LAST NIGHT AND MY

EIGHT YEAR OLD HEARD NOISES AND

HOWLING. DID I OPEN THE DOOR

FOR DEMONS?" . YOU'RE INTO A

INTERESTING SUBJECT AND HOW DO

YOU OPEN DOORS FOR DEMONS? AND

I WILL TRY THE LINE BETWEEN

OPPRESSION AND POSSESSION. YOU

OPEN THE DOOR OF POSSESSION BY

LITERALLY INVITING HIM TO COME

IN AND IN ALL THE CULTURES WHEN

THEY START TALKING ABOUT

POSSESSION THERE IS IDLE

WORSHIP

INVOLVED AND BOWING DOWN AND

MOSES SAYS SPECIFICALLY "THERE

ARE DEMONS BEHIND EVERY IDLE"

AND YOU INVITE THEM IN. THAT

IS

OPENING THE DOOR. HOW DO YOU

SHUT THE DOOR? IT'S UP TO YOU.

ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SHUT IT.

AND I TAKE THE AUTHORITY GIVEN

TO ME AS A BELIEVER IN JESUS

CHRIST AND I SHUT THE DOOR.

YOU

HAVE NO AUTHORITY IN MY HOME.

YOU CANNOT OPPRESS MY EIGHT

YEAR

OLD. YOU MUST LEAVE HIS

DREAMS.

YOU MUST LEAVE NOW AND NO MORE

HOWLING AND NOISES IN THE

MIDDLE

OF THE NIGHT. YOU CAN SHUT THE

DOOR. THERE IS NO SUCH THING

AS

SELLING YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL

OR GOING TOO FAR AND YOU CAN'T

COME BACK. THE BLOOD OF JESUS

CHRIST REDEEMS ALL FOR ALL

MANKIND. HE PAID THE PRICE.

YOU CANNOT SELL WHAT IS NOT

YOUR

OWN. JESUS BOWTD AND PAID FOR

YOU AND DON'T THE AUTHORITY TO

SELL IT AND I CANCEL. I ACCEPT

JESUS AND I ACCEPT THE BARGAIN

HE'S FREELY GIVEN TO ME AND

UNDERSTAND IT'S ALWAYS BY

GRACE.

IT'S NOT BY WORKS AND WHEN YOU

STAND IN THE GRACE AND LOVE OF

GOD YOU HAVE ALL THE STRENGTH

YOU NEED. YOU'RE MORE THAN A

CONQUEROR THROUGH THE LOVE OF

CHRIST GIVEN TO YOU. WELL,

STEVEN'S LIFE WAS OUT SOMETHING

OUT OF A NOVEL. HIS FRIENDS

PLAYED GAMES OF WEREWOLVES AND

HIS LOVE SPINNED OUT OF CONTROL.

AS A WICKEN STEVEN CAST

SPELLS AND HAVE SEVERAL DARK

ENCOUNTERS. THIS TREK STARTED

IN 2001 WHEN HIS GIRLFRIEND HAD

A MISCARRIAGE.

I WAS CRUSHED. I HAD NO

IDEA

WHERE TO GO, WHERE TO TURN. I

COULDN'T THINK. ALL I COULD

THINK OF HOW BADLY AND HOW MUCH

I WANTED THIS CHILD.

STEVEN BLAMED GOD FOR HIS

BABY'S DEATH.

IT PUSHED ME AWAY FROM GOD

BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD ME GOD

HAD

A REASON FOR TAKING THIS CHILD,

AND I THOUGHT I DON'T WANT TO

HAVE ANY PART IN A GOD WHO WILL

TAKE A CHILD FROM SOMEBODY WHO

WANTS IT.

PARTLY DUE TO THE

MISCARRIAGE

HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS

GIRLFRIEND ENDED. STEVEN WAS

TOTALLY BROKEN. HE TURNED TO

DRINKING AND DRUGS TO MASK THE

ANGER IN HIS SOUL.

I STARTED GETTING INTO

COCAINE

AND PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, PAIN

KILLERS AND ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND

STUFF LIKE THAT.

HE SAID HE FELT LIKE AN OUT

CAST UNTIL HE ENTER THE WORLD

OF

GOTH. HE MARRIED AND SHE HAD

TWO GIRLS FROM A PREVIOUS

MARRIAGE.

THEY DIDN'T CARE WHAT I

LOOKED LIKE OR ACTED. I

REMEMBER WEARING SPIKES AROUND

MY NECK AND WRIST.

THEY ALSO PARTICIPATED IN

INTRICATE ROLE PLAYING GAMES.

THEY HAD DIFFERENT ROLES

LIKE

VAMPIRES, WEREWOLF, A WITCH.

THEY HAD WHAT THEY CALLED DARK

ANGELS.

AND THAT OPENED THE DOOR TO

SOMETHING DARKER, THE OCCULT.

AT FIRST I DIDN'T WANT

ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT BUT THE

MORE I WAS THERE I THINK I

STARTED SEARCHING FOR SOME KIND

OF RELIGIOUS STABILITY BECAUSE

I

NEEDED A SET OF BELIEFS TO LIVE

BY, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE

MY LIFE, SO WICKEN FIT THE BILL

AT THE TIME.

THE RITUALS AND SPELLS

OPENED

HIM UP TO DEMONIC ENCOUNTERS.

ONE DAY AT HEME HIM AND HIS

FRIENDS NOTICED A KNIFE MOWFING

ON ITS OWN.

IT STARTED SPINNING AND

NOBODY WAS TOUCH TG AND ONE OF

MY FRIENDS SAID "DID YOU SEE

THAT?" AND I SAID YES AND

EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSE LEFT.

MONTHS LATER HE HAD AN

ENCOUNTER HE WOULDN'T FORGET.

IN THE CENTER OF MY ROOM

THERE WAS A DARK FIGURE AND

CROSS LEGGED AND LOOKING AT ME

AND LEVITATED OFF THE FLOOR.

IT

WAS SCARY.

STEVEN WAS TERRIFIED WHEN HE

SAW THE POWER OF SAITD AN. HE

KNEW HIS LIFE HAD TO CHANGE.

AT

HIS DAUGHTER'S SOCCER PRACTICE

HE MET DOORT DAD, A POST PASTOR

THAT

INVITED HIM TO CHURCH.

I WILL TELL YOU WHY I DON'T

GO TO CHURCH. I AM A WICKA AND

HE ASKED HOW IS IT WORKING OUT

FOR YOU AND I SAID NOT TOO GOOD.

THE PASTOR GAVE HIM A BIBLE

AND HE STARTED READING. HE

WENT

TO CHURCH TO SEE HIS

STEPDAUGHTER SING IN THE CHOIR

AND HIS LIFE CHANGED.

IT WAS THE MUSIC AND THE

SONGS AND JUST THE MESSAGE. IT

WAS THE WAY THE STORY OF CHRIST

WAS LAID OUT IT REALLY MADE ME

UNDERSTAND THAT I NEEDED CHRIST

IN MY LIFE, AND I WAS A SINNER.

STEVEN BEGAN TO PRAY.

I TOLD GOD THAT I KNEW I WAS

WRONG, THE WAY THAT I LIVED.

THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT MY LIFE

WAS WRONG, AND I NEEDED

FORGIVENESS, AND I JUST WANTED

JESUS -- I JUST WANTED CHRIST

IN

MY HEART AND MY LIFE. IT WAS

AN

OVER NIGHT CHANGE. I HAD

ALREADY GIVEN UP ALMOST EVENING

FROM MY PAST. I WAS STILL

DRINKING BUT IT WAS LIKE EVERY

NIGHT I DIDN'T WANT TO DRINK

ANYMORE. MY LANGUAGE CLEARED

UP. JUST THE WAY THAT I

CARRIED

MYSELF. IT WAS AN OVER NIGHT

CHANGE.

OTHER SAW THE CHANGES IN

STEVEN TOO. PASTOR NATE

EXPLAINS.

ANYTIME YOU TALK TO HIM IT

SEEMINGS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE

THING IN HIS HEART IS WHAT HE

CAN DO TO BE USED BY GOD AND

NOT

NECESSARILY HIS LIFE BUT ANYONE

HE COMES INTO ACCOUNT WITH.

IT'S ARK MAZEING.

THEY HAVE SINCE HAD A CHILD

OF THEIR OWN. THEY ARE AMAZED

AT WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR THEIR

FAMILY.

WITHOUT HIS GRACE AND MERCY

I

WOULDN'T BE NOW. I DON'T

BELIEVE I WOULD HAVE MADE IT

THROUGH WHAT I MADE IT THROUGH

WITHOUT HIM. GOD IS MY STRONG

POWER. I FIND MY STRENGTH IN

HIM. WITHOUT HIM I AM NOTHING.

GOD IS MY STRONG POWER.

WITH

HIM I CAN DO ALL THINGS.

WITHOUT HIM I CAN DO NOTHING.

WHEN WE REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT

AND UNDERSTAND WE'RE CREATED

BEINGS AND CREATED SPECIFICALLY

TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

AND THE INTERESTING THING IS

NOT

AN UNEQUAL ONE. HE WANTED TO

HAVE TRUE FELLOWSHIP WITH US

WHERE HE WOULD COME DOWN IN THE

COULD FEEL THE EVENING AND TALK

WITH US, NOT AS SOME KIND OF

MASTER, BUT AS A FRIEND, AND

WHEN WE GOT THAT, WHEN WE

UNDERSTAND THAT THEN THE LIE OF

THE ENEMY IS JUST THAT, A LIE.

AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE TAUGHT

ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN. IF

YOU EAT THIS FRUIT YOU WILL BE

LIKE GOD. THAT IGNORED THE

FACT

THEY WERE ALREADY LIKE GOD.

THEY WERE MADE IN HIS IMAGE

MADE

TO HAVE A UNIQUE FELLOWSHIP

WITH

HIM THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL

ETERNITY. THAT WAS GOD'S PLAN.

THAT WAS GOD'S DREAM FOR US TO

LIVE IN THE GARDEN AND BE

FRIENDS WITH HIM AND WE MESS IT

UP, AND WE WENT THE OTHER WAY,

BUT I'VE GOT SOME GREAT NEWS

FOR

YOU. GOD HASN'T GIVEN UP ON

HIS

DREAM AND ALL IT TAKES FOR YOU

TO TURN IS TO SAY "I WANT TO

LEAVE THE LIE AND EMBRACE THE

TRUTH" AND WHO IS THE TRUTH?

IT'S JESUS. AND HE SAYS IT

VERY

CLEARLY, "I AM THE WAY, THE

TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO ONE

COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME"

AND WHEN YOU CAN EMBRACE HIM

AND

GO THROUGH HIM TO THE FATHER

THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE THINGS

THAT YOU EVER WANTED. IT'S ALL

THERE FOR YOU. SO LET ME ASK

YOU THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT

PASTOR ADAMS? HOW IS THIS

WORKING OUT FOR YOU? IF YOU

GOT

INVOLVED IN THE PARANORMAL, AND

DRUGS AND ALL OF THE THINGS

LIKE

THIS HOW IS IT WORKING OUT FOR

YOU? LET ME CHALLENGE YOU WITH

THIS PRAYER. JESUS, IF YOU'RE

THERE SHOW ME. REVEAL YOURSELF

TO ME AND IF YOU PRAY THAT WITH

YOUR HEART WE WILL COME IN AND

CHANGE YOU. WHAT HE DOES FOR

STEVE HE WILL DO. ALL YOU NEED

TO DO IS CALL US

1-800-777-1999.

WE LEAVE WITH THIS. BE ANXIOUS

FOR NOTHING AND WITH

EMBED THIS VIDEO


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