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ON "THE 700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE"
WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY FOR
EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE TOPICS
THAT MATTER TO YOU. WATCH WHAT
GOD IS DOING IN THE WORLD
TODAY.
HI EVERYBODY. WELCOME TO A
SPECIAL EDITION OF "THE 700
CLUB
INTERACTIVE". WELL, THIS WEEK
WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THE
UNEXPLAINABLE. SCIENCE CALL IT
SAYS THE PARANORMAL.
FOR CENTURIES MAN HAS TRIED
TO SEE IT AND CULTURES AROUND
THE GLOB GLOBE TRY TO TALK TO
THE
DEAD. A FEW HUNDRED YEARS THE
RESIDENTS OF SALEM
MASSACHUSETTS
ACCUSED ONE ANOTHER OF BEING A
WITCH AND 19 PEOPLE WERE
SENTENCED TO DIE AND HISTORIANS
BELIEVE NOTHING MORE THAN
PARANOIA AND MASS
HYSTERIA. TAKE A LOOK.
WHY DO YOU HURT THESE FOUR
CHILDREN?
I DON'T HURT THEM AT ALL.
WHAT FAMILIARITY DO YOU HAVE
WITH THE DEVIL?
I HAVE NOT HURT THEM.
ARE YOU AN INNOCENT PERSON
RELATING TO THIS WITCH CRAFT.
I AM INNOCENT.
I'M A HIS HISTORIAN OF
AMERICAN RELIGIOUS HISTORY
PRIMARILY IN AMERICA. I TEACH
MOST OF THAT BUT MOSTLY WRITE
ABOUT THE 17TH CENTURY HERE IN
NEW ENGLAND AND ENGLAND AND
WITCH CRAFT GOES BACK TO EXODUS
AND IN LATE MID-EVIL EUROPE IT
WAS REVIVED AS A MAJOR ISSUE
AND
IN ISRAEL AS WELL, SO THE
COLONISTS WERE BEING ORDINARY
DOING THE ORDINARY THING WHEN
THEY HAD THEIR INQUIRY WHO WAS
A
WITCH AND WHO WAS NOT. WITCH
CRAFT IS PRIMARILY A LEGAL
PROCESS WITH A STRONG SOCIAL
BASE. THAT SOCIAL BASE IN
SMALL
COMMUNITIES IN EARLY NEW
ENGLAND
PEOPLE INSULT EACH OTHER AND
YOU
INSULT THEM BY CALLING THAT
PERSON A WITCH.
I CAME TO SALEM AND I SPENT
JUST ABOUT THREE WEEKS HERE,
AND
DID A LOT OF RESEARCH, AND
THERE
WERE RECORDS, YOU KNOW, THAT
YOU
CAN READ, SO THERE WERE RECORDS
WHAT WERE CALLED THE
EXAMINATIONS AND WHICH WERE THE
PRETRIAL HEARINGS AND IT'S
WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE ALL
THESE
RECORDS. THE QUESTIONS BEING
ASKED BY THE MAGISTRATE AND THE
ANSWERS FROM THE WITCH SUSPECTS
WERE GIVING AND THEY MAKE VERY
DRAMATIC READING. THE
MAGISTRATE IS PRESSING THEM AND
SAYING OVER AND OVER AGAIN "DO
YOU NOT AFFLICT THESE CHILDREN?
SEE HOW THEY'RE AFFLICTED.
HAVE
YOU NOT MADE A
PACK WITH THE DEVIL AND SHE
SAYS
NO AND THERE OTHERSES TOO. YOU
COULD JUST TELL. SHE IS
GRASPING AT STRAWS. HE WILL
NOT
BLAME HER AND TRIES TO BLAME
SOMEBODY ELSE AND SHE DIDN'T DO
GOOD BYE THAT BECAUSE IF SHE
KNEW WHO WAS AFFLICTING THE
CHILDREN SHE MUST BE A WITCH
TOO.
FOR MOST OF US THE LEAST
UNDERSTANDABLE ASPECT IS 50
PEOPLE SAID IN COURT THEY WERE
WITCHING. WE CALL THEM THE
CONFESSING WITCHES. WE SAY WHY
WOULD SOMEONE CONFESS IF THEY
HADN'T SIGNED THE DEVIL'S
COMPACT AND NONE OF THESE
PEOPLE
HAD SIGNED IT AND A SIMPLE
ANSWER HAS TO BE A
PSYCHOLOGICAL
ANSWER AND THEY WERE SINNERS
TEMPTED AND THERE IS ONE LEGAL
ASPECT OF IT AND NONE OF
CONFESSING WITCHES WERE
MURDERED
AND IT WAS ADDRESSED FOR THE
OTHERS.
THE WHOLE VILLAGE HAD
DISSENSION ALREADY. PEOPLE
WERE
GUARDING EACH OTHER WITH
SUSPICION AND FEAR AND THINKING
THAT SOMEBODY THEY REALLY
DISLIKED ANYWAY MIKE A WITCH
AND
EVEN IF THEY WEREN'T WOULDN'T
IT
BE GOOD IF THEY WERE NAMED TO A
WITCH AND COULD LEAD TO THEIR
DESSTREKZ.
A MAN OR WOMAN WOULD TESTIFY
THAT WAS TORMENTED BY NO ONE
COULD SEE AND THE DEVIL COULD
INSERT IN PEOPLE AND DO BIZARRE
THINGS BUT NOT A LEGAL ROLE
UNTIL SALEM AND THAT IS THE THE
PROCESS.
ALL THE GIRL WHEN IS IT
CAMES
TO THE TRIALS WERE DOING THIS.
THEY MAY HAVE BEEN HYSTERICAL
BEFORE AND BEWITCHED BEFORE,
BUT
WHEN IT CAME TO THE
EXAMINATIONS
AND TRIALS THEY WERE PUTTING ON
A SHOW THEY KNEW THEY HAD TO
PUT
ON AND OTHERWISE THEY MIGHT BE
ACCUSED OF BEING WITCHES
THEMSELVES. WHEN IT DEVELOPED
IT REALLY WAS A POLITICAL
EPISODE. I MEAN -- OKAY, THE
WAY IT STARTED WASN'T, BUT WHEN
IT WENT ON IT CONTINUED BECAUSE
OF VILLAGE POLITICS AND TOWN
POLITICS, AND IN THE END
MASSACHUSETTS BAY POLITICS.
THAT'S WHAT DROVE THE WHOLE
EPISODE ON.
VERY EARLY THERE WAS THE
FEELING THAT TRADITIONAL ERRORS
WERE BEING MADE BUT HOW HARD IT
WAS TO STOP THIS THING. WHO
HAD
THE COURAGE TO SAY THIS IS
REALLY A TRAIN THAT RAN OFF THE
TRACKS. OCTOBER IS THE LAST
SESSION OF THE COURT AND THE
GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSETTS
SUSPENDS THE COURT AND IS AWARE
SOMETHING IS NOT GOING CORRECT
AND IN JANUARY THE REMAINING
PRISONERS ARE LET LOOSE.
SO IT ALL LIKE CAME TO A
END.
THERE WAS NO GREAT STATEMENT
FROM ANYBODY SAYING THIS IS ALL
BEEN THE MOST DREADFUL MISTAKE.
WE EXECUTED 20 INNOCENT PEOPLE.
WHAT I HOPE PEOPLE WOULD LEARN
IS HOW WITCH HUNTS HAPPEN. WE
CAN LEARN TO BE AWARE IF SUCH A
PROCESS SEEMS TO BE STARTING IN
A COMMUNITY AT ANY LEVEL. WHAT
IT IS ABOUT US THAT CAUSES US
TO
BECOME FEARFUL AND SUSPICIOUS
AND IRRATIONAL IN CERTAIN
SITUATIONS, AND END UP CAUSING
TERRIBLE DESTRUCTION.
WITCH HUNTS. THAT HAS COME
INTO OUR ENGLISH LANGUAGE AS
SOMETHING WE SHOULDN'T DO. IT
HAS BEEN APPLIED TO ALL
DIFFERENT KINDS OF
INVESTIGATIONS WHERE YOU'RE
ASSUMING GUILT BEFORE THERE IS
ANY PROOF. THERE IS A NOTED
THING THAT HAPPENED HERE.
COTTON MATHER WHO WAS ONE OF
THE
LEADING E VANNISTS MINISTERS OF
HIS DAY AND HARVARD EDUCATED
AND
CAME OUT WITH A PAMPHLET TO THE
COURT AND DON'T TAKE THIS KIND
OF EVIDENCE AND A WITNESS OF
WITCH CRAFT "I SAW THEIR IMAGE.
ASPECTOR OF THEM APPEARED IN MY
ROOM AND THAT'S WHEN I BECAME
BEWITCHED". IT'S HARD TO HAVE
ANY DFSES OF THAT. YOU CAN
LITERALLY MAKE THINGS UP. "I
SAW A VISION OF SO-AND-SO AND
THEY WERE TRYING TO PUT A SPELL
ON ME EVEN THOUGH THEY WEREN'T
THERE AND UNTIL ANOTHER PART OF
THE CITY OR TOWN" . THAT IS
WHAT CONVICTED THE PEOPLE IN
SALEM OF WITCH CRAFT, THE
ADMISSION OF THIS KIND OF
EVIDENCE, SO IT CHANGED OUR
JURISPRUDENCE, OUR LANGUAGE,
HOW
WE VIEW THINGS AND THE QUESTION
IS WAS IT MASS HYSTERIA? WAS
IT
A GROUP OF GIRLS THAT MADE IT
UP? WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE WITCH
TRIALS PARTICULARLY IN EUROPE
AND YOU HEAR THE EYE WITNESS
TESTIMONY OF SOME OF THE THINGS
HAPPENED, THE BODILY CONTERKZS
OF PEOPLE INVOLVED YOU START TO
SCRATCH YOUR HEAD AND HOW DOES
ANY MASS HYSTERIA EXPLAIN THAT?
THE OTHER SIDE IT MADE SALEM
FAMOUS AND UP NEXT SALEM
MASSACHUSETTS HAS EMBRACED THE
TITLE "WITCH CITY". FIND OUT
WHERE THE NAME CAME FROM AFTER
THIS.
I STARTED FEELING PAIN
BETWEEN MY SPINE AND MY
SHOULDER
BLADE. ALL I HAD WAS PAIN AND
NO RELIEF. THERE WAS A
SIZABLE MASS IN UPPER
RIGHT LUNG. IT'S TOUGH STUFF.
I WAS TALKING, WALKING BUT I
DIDN'T KNOW HOW SICK I WAS.
I REMEMBER SEEING THE AD FOR
CANCER TREATMENT CENTERS FOR
AMERICA.
TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT OUR
TREATMENT OPTIONS GO TO CANCER
CENTER.COM. YOU WILL SEE OUR
RESULTS FOR AND HOW THEY
COMPARE
TO NATIONAL AVERAGES.
THE GAME PLAN WAS
CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION. IT
WAS AGGRESSIVE PLAN OF ATTACK.
I LIKE THAT.
WE GAVE ME CHEMO AND
RADIATION. HE WAS AMAZING
PATIENT. HE TOLERATED
TREATMENT
WELL.
PUKNOW WE'RE DIFFERENT. YOU
KNOW WHEN IT YOU WALK INTO ONE
OF OUR HOSPITALS AND IT'S A
LEVEL OF COMPASSION THAT CANNOT
BE COPIED. WHY? OUR PEOPLE.
PEOPLE THAT GIVE NOT ONLY THEIR
EXPERTISE BUT HUMANITY IN A
THOUGHTFUL WELL ORGANIZED
PATIENT CENTER YOU WILL FIND
ANYWHERE.
I BECAME MYSELF AGAIN.
GEORGE HAS HIS LIFE BACK
AGAIN. HE HAS A LIFE I NEVER
THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE.
WITH THE TREATMENT, THE
FACILITIES, THE COMBINATION OF
THE ASPECTS OF TREATMENT I AM
SO
HAPPEN I WENT THERE.
EVERY MINUTE COUNTS WHEN
FIGHTING COMPLEX OR LAIJ STAGE
CANCER AND CALL US TODAY.
APPOINTMENTS ARE AVAILABLE
NOW.
CANCER TREATMENT CENTERS OF
AMERICA. CARE THAT NEVER QUITS.
SALEM MASSACHUSETTS IS
OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS THE WITCH
CITY AND YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE WHY
.
IT ALL BEGAN I THINK AS A
RESULT OF THE WITCH TRIALS
NEVER
HAVING A PROPER ENDING. THE
LAST FIVE TO BE EXONERATED WERE
EXONERATED IN 2001 SO IT WAS A
VERY SLE PROCESS SO THE IDEA
THERE REALLY HAD BEEN WITCHS IN
SALEM LIVED ON IN PEOPLE'S
MINDS. DURING THE 18TH CENTURY
AS EARLY AS THAT PEOPLE IN THE
CITY STARTED TO ACTUALLY
CAPITALIZE ON THIS ASSOCIATION.
YOU GOT A FISH MONGER IN THE
18TH CENTURY WHO ACTUALLY
TRAINED UNDER THE NAME "WITCH
CITY" AND YOU HAVE SEVERAL
BUSINESS PEOPLE USING WITCH
CITY
HAS THEIR TRADE NAME. THERE
WAS
AN OIRL FIRM, A BICYCLE
MANUFACTURER, A POPCORN
FACTORY,
SO YOU HAD THIS SORT OF
CARRYING
ON KEEPING THE PEOPLE ALIVE IN
PEOPLE'S MINDS. 20TH CENTURY
YOU BEGAN TO GET TOURISM. IN
THE 60'S SALEM WASN'T DOING
WELL
AS A TOWN BECAUSE A LOT OF THE
MANUFACTURING INDUSTRY THAT HAD
BEEN HERE WAS LEAVING. AT THE
BEGINNING OF THE 70'S LARRY CAB
ERT CAME TO SALEM. HE'S A SELF
PROCLAIMED WITCH WITH A GREAT
FLAIR FOR PR AND CONVINCED THE
GOVERNOR OF THE TIME IN A
CONFUSED MOMENT GIVE HER THE
TITLE OF WITCH OF SALEM AND
FOLLOWED BY LIKENS AND JUST
BECAUSE THEY WERE HERE
REINFORCED THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN SALEM AND WITCHES AND
NOW THERE ARE PEOPLE LIVING
HERE
WHO CLAIM TO BE WITCHES AND A
REASONABLE POPULATION OF SALEM
MASSACHUSETTS. EVEN THAT 20
INNOCENT PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE OF
ACTUAL ACCUSATIONS OF WITCH
CRAFT, THE FACT THAT PEOPLE
COME
FLOCKING TO SALEM NOW TO
CELEBRATE WITCH CRAFT IS
TREMENDOUSLY IRONIC. TERRIBLY
SAD TO THINK THAT SOMETHING SO
HORRENDOUS COULD HAPPEN AND
IT'S
JUST A MARKETING CAMPAIGN TODAY.
I THINK IT'S SOMETHING
DEEPER
THAN MARKETING. WHY DO WE LIKE
SCARY MOVIES?
YES AND THERE.
WHY DO WE GO THERE IN OUR
OWN
MINDS. I THINK IT POINTS OUT
SOMETHING ALL PEOPLE -- I
SHOULDN'T SAY ALL, A GROUP OF
PEOPLE WANT, AND THAT IS I WANT
THE SECRET POWER. I WANT TO BE
ABLE TO CAST SPELLS AND SEE
THINGS CHANGE, AND SO THERE'S A
REAL ALLURE TO THAT. I KNOW
FOR
ME I NEVER WANT TO BE ON THE
LOSING SIDE.
EXACTLY. READ THE END OF
THE
BOOK.
I READ THE END OF THE BOOK,
AND SO THESE SO-CALLED POWERS I
DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH
BECAUSE I KNEW IT WAS A GATEWAY
INTO SOMETHING THAT WOULDN'T BE
GOOD FOR ME, BUT THE MORE I
MATURED IN THE FAITH THE MORE I
UNDERSTAND TODAY THE DEVIL HAS
NO POWER.
YEAH.
HE CAN BLUFF. HE CAN LIE.
HE CAN FRIGHTEN. HE CAN
TERRORIZE. HE CAN DO ALL THOSE
THINGS BUT CAN HE PHYSICALLY DO
ANYTHING? NOT AFTER THE CROSS
OF JESUS CHRIST HE CAN'T. HE
DOESN'T HAVE ANY POWER.
CAPTIVITY HAS LEAD CAPTIVE. HE
IS A DEFEATED FOE AND THE MORE
WE REALIZE THAT AS CHRISTIANS
AND TAKE THE AUTHORITY GIVEN TO
US. IF YOU WANT TO SUPER
NATURAL EXPERIENCES THEY'RE
PLENTY. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS
ASK GOD FOR THEM AND ASK THE
HOLY SPIRIT TO COME AND SHOW
YOU
THINGS. HE WILL LEAD YOU INTO
ALL TRUTH?
A. HE WON'T LIE TO YOU. HE
WON'T TRY TO DESRECEIVE YOU AND
ROB AND STEAL AND DESTROY. HE
WILL BLESS YOU AND THERE ARE
PLENTY WITHIN THE WONDERFUL
GOODNESS OF GOD.
YEA. I AM SURPRISED EVEN IN
OUR AREA OCCASIONALLY YOU WILL
SEE'S SIGN OUTSIDE OF A PRIVATE
HOME THAT SOMEONE IS --
PSYCHIC, TARO CARDS.
YEAH.
AND ALL OF THAT STUFF.
WHATEVER.
LET'S ROLL THE BONE.
YEAH.
AND YOU LOOK AT ALL THE
CULTURES. THEY ALL HAVE THIS
WHETHER IT'S CHINA. THEY HAVE
THE ORACLE BONES FROM THOUSANDS
YEARS AGO. THEY HAVE THE
ORACLE
OF DELPHI . CAN WE LOOK INTO
THE FUTURE? YOU'RE GOING TO
MEET A TALL DARK STRANGEER AND
SWEEP YOU OFF YOUR FEET AND ALL
OF THIS STUFF AND IT'S WEAVING
NONSENSE.
AND THE WORD HAS A LOT TO
SAY
ABOUT IT.
DON'T DO IT.
COMING UP LIFE A REAL LIFE
WARLOCK AND HIS JOURNEY TO
SALVATION AFTER THIS.
MY DAUGHTER OPENED AND
SLAMMED DURING THE NIGHT
WINDOWS
CLOSED.
TO DEMONIC ENCOUNTERS.
DURING HIGH SCHOOL YEARS.
TO SALEM WITCH TRY
TRIALS.
20 PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE
SWITCHS.
THIS WEEK ON "THE 700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE".
IF YOU'RE THE MOTHER OF A
CHILD WITH BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS
I
WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU. I
AM
JANET LEEMAN AND I'M A
BEHAVIORAL THEORIST AND A MOM.
I KNOW WHEN A
CHILD DISRESPECTS YOU. THAT'S
WHY MY HUSBAND AND I CREATED
TOTAL TRANSFORMATION AND MOMS
ARE USING TO TURN AROUND THEIR
CHILD'S BEHAVIOR. IF YOU
WONDERED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND
WHETHER IT WILL WORK FOR YOU
NOW
YOU CAN TRY IF FOR FREE. I AM
WILLING TO GIVE AWAY A THOUSAND
PROGRAMS AWAY FOR FREE. ALL
YOU
NEED TO DO IS GED THE PROGRAM
AND LET US KNOW HOW TO WORKS
FOR
YOU. I KNOW IT WORKS BECAUSE I
USED THESE TECHNIQUES WITH MY
OWN SON AND TROUBLED KIDS FOR
30
YEARS. .
CALL THE NUMBER ON THE
SCREEN
TO GET IT FOR FREE.
THIS TOPIC PROMOTED INTEREST
IN OUR CHAT ROOM. "I WATCH A
SCARY MOVIE LAST NIGHT AND MY
EIGHT YEAR OLD HEARD NOISES AND
HOWLING. DID I OPEN THE DOOR
FOR DEMONS?" . YOU'RE INTO A
INTERESTING SUBJECT AND HOW DO
YOU OPEN DOORS FOR DEMONS? AND
I WILL TRY THE LINE BETWEEN
OPPRESSION AND POSSESSION. YOU
OPEN THE DOOR OF POSSESSION BY
LITERALLY INVITING HIM TO COME
IN AND IN ALL THE CULTURES WHEN
THEY START TALKING ABOUT
POSSESSION THERE IS IDLE
WORSHIP
INVOLVED AND BOWING DOWN AND
MOSES SAYS SPECIFICALLY "THERE
ARE DEMONS BEHIND EVERY IDLE"
AND YOU INVITE THEM IN. THAT
IS
OPENING THE DOOR. HOW DO YOU
SHUT THE DOOR? IT'S UP TO YOU.
ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS SHUT IT.
AND I TAKE THE AUTHORITY GIVEN
TO ME AS A BELIEVER IN JESUS
CHRIST AND I SHUT THE DOOR.
YOU
HAVE NO AUTHORITY IN MY HOME.
YOU CANNOT OPPRESS MY EIGHT
YEAR
OLD. YOU MUST LEAVE HIS
DREAMS.
YOU MUST LEAVE NOW AND NO MORE
HOWLING AND NOISES IN THE
MIDDLE
OF THE NIGHT. YOU CAN SHUT THE
DOOR. THERE IS NO SUCH THING
AS
SELLING YOUR SOUL TO THE DEVIL
OR GOING TOO FAR AND YOU CAN'T
COME BACK. THE BLOOD OF JESUS
CHRIST REDEEMS ALL FOR ALL
MANKIND. HE PAID THE PRICE.
YOU CANNOT SELL WHAT IS NOT
YOUR
OWN. JESUS BOWTD AND PAID FOR
YOU AND DON'T THE AUTHORITY TO
SELL IT AND I CANCEL. I ACCEPT
JESUS AND I ACCEPT THE BARGAIN
HE'S FREELY GIVEN TO ME AND
UNDERSTAND IT'S ALWAYS BY
GRACE.
IT'S NOT BY WORKS AND WHEN YOU
STAND IN THE GRACE AND LOVE OF
GOD YOU HAVE ALL THE STRENGTH
YOU NEED. YOU'RE MORE THAN A
CONQUEROR THROUGH THE LOVE OF
CHRIST GIVEN TO YOU. WELL,
STEVEN'S LIFE WAS OUT SOMETHING
OUT OF A NOVEL. HIS FRIENDS
PLAYED GAMES OF WEREWOLVES AND
HIS LOVE SPINNED OUT OF CONTROL.
AS A WICKEN STEVEN CAST
SPELLS AND HAVE SEVERAL DARK
ENCOUNTERS. THIS TREK STARTED
IN 2001 WHEN HIS GIRLFRIEND HAD
A MISCARRIAGE.
I WAS CRUSHED. I HAD NO
IDEA
WHERE TO GO, WHERE TO TURN. I
COULDN'T THINK. ALL I COULD
THINK OF HOW BADLY AND HOW MUCH
I WANTED THIS CHILD.
STEVEN BLAMED GOD FOR HIS
BABY'S DEATH.
IT PUSHED ME AWAY FROM GOD
BECAUSE SOMEBODY TOLD ME GOD
HAD
A REASON FOR TAKING THIS CHILD,
AND I THOUGHT I DON'T WANT TO
HAVE ANY PART IN A GOD WHO WILL
TAKE A CHILD FROM SOMEBODY WHO
WANTS IT.
PARTLY DUE TO THE
MISCARRIAGE
HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS
GIRLFRIEND ENDED. STEVEN WAS
TOTALLY BROKEN. HE TURNED TO
DRINKING AND DRUGS TO MASK THE
ANGER IN HIS SOUL.
I STARTED GETTING INTO
COCAINE
AND PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, PAIN
KILLERS AND ANTIDEPRESSANTS AND
STUFF LIKE THAT.
HE SAID HE FELT LIKE AN OUT
CAST UNTIL HE ENTER THE WORLD
OF
GOTH. HE MARRIED AND SHE HAD
TWO GIRLS FROM A PREVIOUS
MARRIAGE.
THEY DIDN'T CARE WHAT I
LOOKED LIKE OR ACTED. I
REMEMBER WEARING SPIKES AROUND
MY NECK AND WRIST.
THEY ALSO PARTICIPATED IN
INTRICATE ROLE PLAYING GAMES.
THEY HAD DIFFERENT ROLES
LIKE
VAMPIRES, WEREWOLF, A WITCH.
THEY HAD WHAT THEY CALLED DARK
ANGELS.
AND THAT OPENED THE DOOR TO
SOMETHING DARKER, THE OCCULT.
AT FIRST I DIDN'T WANT
ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT BUT THE
MORE I WAS THERE I THINK I
STARTED SEARCHING FOR SOME KIND
OF RELIGIOUS STABILITY BECAUSE
I
NEEDED A SET OF BELIEFS TO LIVE
BY, AND I DIDN'T WANT TO CHANGE
MY LIFE, SO WICKEN FIT THE BILL
AT THE TIME.
THE RITUALS AND SPELLS
OPENED
HIM UP TO DEMONIC ENCOUNTERS.
ONE DAY AT HEME HIM AND HIS
FRIENDS NOTICED A KNIFE MOWFING
ON ITS OWN.
IT STARTED SPINNING AND
NOBODY WAS TOUCH TG AND ONE OF
MY FRIENDS SAID "DID YOU SEE
THAT?" AND I SAID YES AND
EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSE LEFT.
MONTHS LATER HE HAD AN
ENCOUNTER HE WOULDN'T FORGET.
IN THE CENTER OF MY ROOM
THERE WAS A DARK FIGURE AND
CROSS LEGGED AND LOOKING AT ME
AND LEVITATED OFF THE FLOOR.
IT
WAS SCARY.
STEVEN WAS TERRIFIED WHEN HE
SAW THE POWER OF SAITD AN. HE
KNEW HIS LIFE HAD TO CHANGE.
AT
HIS DAUGHTER'S SOCCER PRACTICE
HE MET DOORT DAD, A POST PASTOR
THAT
INVITED HIM TO CHURCH.
I WILL TELL YOU WHY I DON'T
GO TO CHURCH. I AM A WICKA AND
HE ASKED HOW IS IT WORKING OUT
FOR YOU AND I SAID NOT TOO GOOD.
THE PASTOR GAVE HIM A BIBLE
AND HE STARTED READING. HE
WENT
TO CHURCH TO SEE HIS
STEPDAUGHTER SING IN THE CHOIR
AND HIS LIFE CHANGED.
IT WAS THE MUSIC AND THE
SONGS AND JUST THE MESSAGE. IT
WAS THE WAY THE STORY OF CHRIST
WAS LAID OUT IT REALLY MADE ME
UNDERSTAND THAT I NEEDED CHRIST
IN MY LIFE, AND I WAS A SINNER.
STEVEN BEGAN TO PRAY.
I TOLD GOD THAT I KNEW I WAS
WRONG, THE WAY THAT I LIVED.
THAT EVERYTHING ABOUT MY LIFE
WAS WRONG, AND I NEEDED
FORGIVENESS, AND I JUST WANTED
JESUS -- I JUST WANTED CHRIST
IN
MY HEART AND MY LIFE. IT WAS
AN
OVER NIGHT CHANGE. I HAD
ALREADY GIVEN UP ALMOST EVENING
FROM MY PAST. I WAS STILL
DRINKING BUT IT WAS LIKE EVERY
NIGHT I DIDN'T WANT TO DRINK
ANYMORE. MY LANGUAGE CLEARED
UP. JUST THE WAY THAT I
CARRIED
MYSELF. IT WAS AN OVER NIGHT
CHANGE.
OTHER SAW THE CHANGES IN
STEVEN TOO. PASTOR NATE
EXPLAINS.
ANYTIME YOU TALK TO HIM IT
SEEMINGS LIKE THE NUMBER ONE
THING IN HIS HEART IS WHAT HE
CAN DO TO BE USED BY GOD AND
NOT
NECESSARILY HIS LIFE BUT ANYONE
HE COMES INTO ACCOUNT WITH.
IT'S ARK MAZEING.
THEY HAVE SINCE HAD A CHILD
OF THEIR OWN. THEY ARE AMAZED
AT WHAT GOD HAS DONE FOR THEIR
FAMILY.
WITHOUT HIS GRACE AND MERCY
I
WOULDN'T BE NOW. I DON'T
BELIEVE I WOULD HAVE MADE IT
THROUGH WHAT I MADE IT THROUGH
WITHOUT HIM. GOD IS MY STRONG
POWER. I FIND MY STRENGTH IN
HIM. WITHOUT HIM I AM NOTHING.
GOD IS MY STRONG POWER.
WITH
HIM I CAN DO ALL THINGS.
WITHOUT HIM I CAN DO NOTHING.
WHEN WE REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT
AND UNDERSTAND WE'RE CREATED
BEINGS AND CREATED SPECIFICALLY
TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD
AND THE INTERESTING THING IS
NOT
AN UNEQUAL ONE. HE WANTED TO
HAVE TRUE FELLOWSHIP WITH US
WHERE HE WOULD COME DOWN IN THE
COULD FEEL THE EVENING AND TALK
WITH US, NOT AS SOME KIND OF
MASTER, BUT AS A FRIEND, AND
WHEN WE GOT THAT, WHEN WE
UNDERSTAND THAT THEN THE LIE OF
THE ENEMY IS JUST THAT, A LIE.
AND IT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE TAUGHT
ADAM AND EVE IN THE GARDEN. IF
YOU EAT THIS FRUIT YOU WILL BE
LIKE GOD. THAT IGNORED THE
FACT
THEY WERE ALREADY LIKE GOD.
THEY WERE MADE IN HIS IMAGE
MADE
TO HAVE A UNIQUE FELLOWSHIP
WITH
HIM THAT WOULD BE FOR ALL
ETERNITY. THAT WAS GOD'S PLAN.
THAT WAS GOD'S DREAM FOR US TO
LIVE IN THE GARDEN AND BE
FRIENDS WITH HIM AND WE MESS IT
UP, AND WE WENT THE OTHER WAY,
BUT I'VE GOT SOME GREAT NEWS
FOR
YOU. GOD HASN'T GIVEN UP ON
HIS
DREAM AND ALL IT TAKES FOR YOU
TO TURN IS TO SAY "I WANT TO
LEAVE THE LIE AND EMBRACE THE
TRUTH" AND WHO IS THE TRUTH?
IT'S JESUS. AND HE SAYS IT
VERY
CLEARLY, "I AM THE WAY, THE
TRUTH AND THE LIFE. NO ONE
COMES TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME"
AND WHEN YOU CAN EMBRACE HIM
AND
GO THROUGH HIM TO THE FATHER
THEN YOU HAVE ALL THE THINGS
THAT YOU EVER WANTED. IT'S ALL
THERE FOR YOU. SO LET ME ASK
YOU THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT
PASTOR ADAMS? HOW IS THIS
WORKING OUT FOR YOU? IF YOU
GOT
INVOLVED IN THE PARANORMAL, AND
DRUGS AND ALL OF THE THINGS
LIKE
THIS HOW IS IT WORKING OUT FOR
YOU? LET ME CHALLENGE YOU WITH
THIS PRAYER. JESUS, IF YOU'RE
THERE SHOW ME. REVEAL YOURSELF
TO ME AND IF YOU PRAY THAT WITH
YOUR HEART WE WILL COME IN AND
CHANGE YOU. WHAT HE DOES FOR
STEVE HE WILL DO. ALL YOU NEED
TO DO IS CALL US
1-800-777-1999.
WE LEAVE WITH THIS. BE ANXIOUS
FOR NOTHING AND WITH