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700 Club Interactive: The Fear Fascination - October 30, 2012

Best-selling author Ted Dekker talks about fear and our culture's fascination with being scared. Read Transcript


GORDAN: JUST THE PAST 20

YEARS, HORROR FILMS HAVE GROSSED

25 BILLION DOLLARS AT THE BOX

OFFICE. MOVIE IS A SAFE WAY

TO COME FRONT IT.

GORDAN: EXPLORE TODAY'S

OBSESSIONS WITH HORROR FILMS ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB" "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN THE

WORLD TODAY.

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

IT IS THAT TIME OF YEAR WHEN

HORROR FILMS MAKE IT BIG AT THE

BECOMES OFFICE WITH THE RELEASE

OF SCARY MOVIES, HOLLYWOOD IS

APPROACHING A PROFITABLE MONTH.

TERRY: TED DECKER IS GOING

TO JOIN US TO SHED LIGHT ON OUR

FASCINATION WITH FEAR.

HE HAS SOLD OVER BIG THRILLERS.

TAKE A LOOK.

ALL OF OUR STORIES ARE

PRIMARY DRIVEN BY A THIRST FOR

UNDERSTANDING AND A THIRST FOR

ESCAPE AND EXCITEMENT.

THAT IS WHY I WRITE THRILLERS.

FOR SOMETHING NEW.

THEY WANT TO EXPLORE SOMETHING

THAT IS NOT MUNDANE TO THEM.

THEY WANT TO ESCAPE.

YOU CAN HARDLY BLAME ME.

I GREW UP IN THE JUNK L.

YUNG JUNGLE.

GORDAN: PLEASE WELCOME TED

DECKER.

GORDAN, IT IS GOOD TO BE WITH

YOU AGAIN.

GORDAN: WHY DO WE LIKE TO BE

AFRAID

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU, BUT I

DON'T.

I DON'T LIKE FEAR AT ALL.

WRITING ABOUT FEAR IS A SAFE WAY

TO WORK THROUGH FEAR.

PERFECT LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR.

IT IS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF OUR

TRUE UNDERSTANDING AND IDENTITY

IN CHRIST.

MY BOOKS ARE LIKE MIRRORS,

DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE

COMING FROM, YOU'LL IDENTIFY

FEAR.

ONE PSALM, I THROW I WALK

THROUGH THE SHADOW OF DEATH, I

FEAR NO EVIL.

WE DO WALK THROUGH THE VALLEYS,

THEY ONLY HAVE SHADOWS OF DEATH.

THERE IS GOOD NEWS.

MY BOOKS ARE ABOUT LIGHT AND

LOVE AND HOPE BEYOND THIS IDEA

THAT DEATH IS GOING TO DESTROY

US.

MY CHARACTERS DO FILL FEAR.

MY STORIES ARE LOVE STORIES

ABOUT LIGHT AND REDEMPTION AND

BEAUTY.

WE ARE THE CHILDREN OF GOD.

WE DO NOT NEED TO FEAR DEATH,

YET WE DO.

STRANGE HOW THAT HAPPENS.

GORDAN: ALSO STRANGE SOME OF

US, MAYBE YOU AND I ARE THE

EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.

I DON'T LIKE GOING TO HORROR

FILMS.

I USED TO LIKE ROLLER COASTERS.

PROBABLY HAVEN'T BEEN ON ONE FOR

TWO DECADES.

THERE SEEMS TO BE A FASCINATION,

IF YOU WILL WITH EVEN I'LL TAKE

THE PHRASE FROM STAR WARS, WITH

THE DARK SIDE OF THINGS, PEOPLE

WANT TO INVESTIGATE THESE SHOWS

ABOUT GHOST HUNTERS SO POPULAR

NOW.

WHY DO YOU THINK WE ARE

STRANGELY ATTRACTED TO THAT?

AGAIN, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR

MY EXPERIENCE.

I AM NOT STRANGLY ATTRACTED TO

IT.

DIFFICULT TO SAY.

YOU TALK TO A PSYCHOLOGIST ABOUT

THAT.

I WRITE ABOUT PEOPLE THROWN INTO

SITUATIONS THAT WOULD PUT THEM

IN GREAT FEAR.

MY LATEST IS ABOUT A PRIEST THAT

GOES TO PRISON.

HE SUR RENDER'S TO GOD'S LOVE.

THERE IS NO FEAR IN THAT VALLEY.

ONLY A SHADOW OF DELT.

I WRITE TO DISCOVER THE LIGHT.

WHY DO PEOPLE TRY TO DISCOVER

FEAR?

THEY BUY INTO IT.

A MOVIE IS A WAY TO COMFORT IT

KNOWING THEY ARE SAFE IN A MOVIE

SEAT.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO GET HURT.

THEY COME OUT SAFE ON THE OTHER

SIDE.

THEY ARE LIKE IT IS OKAY.

I AM OKAY.

I LOOK FOR A MUCH GREATER LIGHT

AND HOPE BEYOND THAT ONE

EXPERIENCE.

IN ME, I UNDERSTAND AS GOD'S

CHILD, I AM IMPERVIOUS TO DEATH.

THERE IS GOOD NEWS, THAT IS THE

GRADE HAS BEEN CONCURRED.

YOU GROUP UP THE SON OF

MISSIONARIES IN THE JUNGLES OF

INDONESIA.

IS PART OF THE SOURCE FOR YOUR

FICTION WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH AS

A CHILD?

HOW DID IT EFFECT YOUR STORY

TELLING?

MY PARENTS WENT TO THE JUNGLE

TO BRING LIGHT INTO THE

DARKNESS.

THAT IS MY OBSESSION.

IT IS MY, IT IS WORKING THROUGH

MY OWN SALVATION, MY OWN

UNDERSTANDING OF WHO I AM, MY

IDENTITY, WHO AM I?

WHY DO I FEAR?

I GREW UP AMONGST PEOPLE

SMOTHERED BY DARKNESS IN THE

JUNGLE.

IN A WAY, I AS A MISSIONARY

KID, I COME TO THE UNITED

STATES, I CAN HAVE THE SAME KIND

OF FEAR.

NO BETTER.

EVEN AS A CHRISTIAN, I CAN HAVE

THE SAME KIND OF FEAR, WHY?

I WORK THROUGH THAT IN MY

STORIES TO DISCOVER FOR MYSELF,

THAT IS WHY THEY COME ACROSS

AUTHENTICIC.

I AM WRITING BOOKS, THEY ARE

LIKE MY JOURNALS.

PEOPLE READ THEM AND IDENTIFY

WITH THEM.

WOW, YEAH, ULTIMATELY IT IS ALL

ABOUT LOVE AND BRINGING LIGHT

INTO THE DARKNESS.

GORDAN: WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST

FEAR?

EVERYONE'S IS THE SAME, THAT

IS SEPARATION FROM GOD.

I AM NOT OKAY.

I AM NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

I AM NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO BE TRULY

LOVED.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE GOD'S

CHILDREN, MADE IN HIS IMAGE.

GOD CAN'T BE THREATENED.

CAN ANYTHING THREATEN GOD?

HAS GOD EVER BEEN THREATENED BY

ANYTHING?

HAS GOD STRUGGLED EVER?

GOD IS TOO BIG TO STRUGGLE WITH

SOMETHING CALLED EVIL.

FAR TOO BIG.

YET WE STRUGGLE.

WE ARE HIS CHILDREN.

WE ARE HIS HEIRS, WE HAVE THAT

ASSURANCE THAT NOTHING, NOTHING

CAN EVER HURT US.

THAT IS A JOURNEY TO GET TO THAT

POINT OF DISCOVERY.

GORDAN: IT IS A JOURNEY.

I WENT INTO FAIRLY DARK PLACES

WHERE THEY WERE GIVEN OVER TO

IDOL WORSHIP AND A LOT OF

WITCHCRAFT.

IT WAS AMAZING HOW MUCH FEAR

GRIPPED THE CHRISTIANS I WAS

WITH.

THEY WOULD WANT TO ENGAGE IN ALL

THIS SPIRITUAL WARFARE AND

BINDING THINGS.

THE THOUGHT CAME TO ME, WHAT CAN

DARKNESS DO TO LIGHT?

THAT IS A BEAUTIFUL THOUGHT.

GORDAN: TALK ABOUT LIGHT

GOING ON.

WHAT CAN DARKNESS DO TO LIGHT?

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS SHINE THE

LIGHT.

NOTHING DARKNESS CAN DO BUT

FLEE.

IT HAS TO RUN AWAY IN THE

PRESENCE OF THE LIGHT.

IT GOT ME THROUGH A WHOLE BUNCH.

THAT IS BEAUTIFUL, GORDAN.

NOT SO MUCH WHAT SHOULD WE DO

BUT HOW ARE WE BEING RIGHT NOW?

WE ARE LIGHT.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO TEACH A LIGHT

HOW TO SHINE IN THE DARKNESS,

JUST TURN ON.

BE ONE WITH GOD.

THAT SINGLE THING YOU JUST

SPOKE, AT THE VERY CORE OF

EVERYTHING IN WHICH WE DO AND BE

LIGHT UNTO THE WORLD.

YOU CAN'T BE LIGHT UNLESS YOU

ARE TURNED ON.

GORDAN: RIGHT.

THAT IS THE ORIGINAL GREEK

BEHIND MANIFEST.

THE LIGHT TURNING ON.

IT IS A LIGHT IMAGE USING -- ANY

WAY, TED, THANKS FOR BEING WITH

US. VERY GOOD NEWS.

GORDAN: LATEST BOOK "THE

SANCTUARY."

THANKS AGAIN FOR BEING WITH US,

GOD BLESS YOU.

TERRY: GREAT COVER.

GOOD JOB, TED.

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THAT WINTER WAS BACK IN SCHOOL.

I WAS SO SURPRISED, I WAS

HAPPY THAT HE CAME TO SCHOOL.

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THEN HE CAN ALSO ANSWER

EVERYTHING.

MADE ME SEE THAT GOD HAS NOT

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[LAUGHTER].

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UP NEXT, A FANTASY ARTIST FACES

THE REALITY OF WHAT SHE CREATED.

ALL THESE DARK IMAGES, THEY

HAD POWER AND SECRET KNOWLEDGE

ALL WOULD YOU SAY WRAPPED UP.

THERE WAS A DEMONIC POSSESSION

GOING ON.

TERRY: SEE HOW THESE DEMONIC

IMAGES HAUNTED HER OWN DAUGHTER.

TERRY: JESSICA RECEIVED

INTERNATIONAL FAME IN THE WORLD

OF FANTASY ART.

HER DARK CREATIONS ATTRACTED A

CULT FOLLOWING.

MANY OF HER FANS THOUGHT SHE WAS

A WITCH.

JESSICA REVELLED IN HER

REPUTATION UNTIL IT TOOK ON A

LIFE OF ITS OWN.

I THINK IT WAS LIKELY THERE

WAS A DEMONIC POSSESSION GOING

ON.

I THOUGHT THERE WAS A CLOUD OF

DARKNESS.

FOR YEARS JESSICA WAS KNOWN

WORLDWIDE AS A FANTASY ARTIST.

I WOULD TRY TO GIVE THEM A

LOOK LIKE THEY WERE GAZING AT

YOU WITH BAD INTENT.

THEY HAD POWER AND SECRET

KNOWLEDGE THAT ALL IS WRAPPED UP

WITH THE ACULT.

IT WAS A POWER THAT JESSICA

DISCOVERED WHEN SHE WAS A CHILD.

I THINK I ALWAYS HAD A STRONG

SENSE THERE WAS A SUPERNATURAL

WORLD.

IT PROGRESSED FROM LIKING THE

PRETTY UNICORNS TO BUYING TERRO

DAKT AND DOING READINGS FOR MY

FRIENDS AND GETTING A WIJI BOARD

AND INVITING ANYONE TO COME TALK

TO US.

THINGS WOULD HAPPEN ALL THE

TIME.

UNEXPLAINABLE TERRIFYING THINGS.

SHE RADIOS SCREAM ON OUT OF

NOWHERE AS WELL AS FLYINGIC

WHICH YOU ARE FRAMES, BROKEN

GLASS AND COMPLETE POWER

OUTAGES.

THE SPIRITS YOU THINK ARE

GHOSTS THEY WERE NOT, THEY WERE

DEMONS.

WE WERE INVITING THEM IN.

JESSICA STOPPED USING WIJI

BOARDS IN HIGH SCHOOL BUT KEPT

SEEKING THE SUPERNATURAL.

I WAS LOOKING FOR KNOWLEDGE

AND POWER AND SECRETS I THOUGHT

OTHER PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW.

I WOULD SAY PEOPLE THOUGHT I WAS

A WITCH.

MORE THEN ANYTHING JESSICA

WAS CURIOUS ABOUT DEATH.

PI WOULD READ ANY KIND OF

BOOK ABOUT NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE

OR PARANORMAL.

MY GREATEST FEAR WAS THAT THERE

WAS NOTHING AFTER DEATH OR WORSE

THERE WAS A HEALTH.

JESSICA MAJORED IN ART IN

COLLEGE AND BEGAN PAINTING

IMAGES THAT REFLECTED HER

OBSESSION IN DEATH.

SHE MARRIED JOSH AND THEY HAD

TWO KIDS. JOSH AND I WERE

FINANCIALLY DRIVEN AND WE WOULD

SET GOALS.

AS HER HEART WORK BEGAN TO

GET WORSE.

THE IMAGES WERE BECOMING REAL TO

JULIA.

I WAS AFRAID OF MY PARENTS OR

I DYING.

I HAD NIGHTMARES ABOUT THIS GUY

GIVING ME POISON AND DRIVING ME

AWAY IN THIS BROWN JEEP.

JESSICA AND JOSH TOOK JULIA

TO A THERAPIST.

THE FEAR AND NIGHTMARES

CONTINUED.

THE COUPLE SENT THEIR SON JOE TO

A PRESCHOOL THAT HAPPENED TO BE

CHRISTIAN.

THE FATHER OF ONE OF JOE'S

CLASSMATES BEFRIENDED JOSH AND

BEGAN QUESTIONING THE COUPLE

ABOUT THEIR BELIEFS.

JESSICA'S MOTHER AND STEPFATHER

WERE CHRISTIANS.

I THOUGHT PERHAPS GOD WAS A

SET OF RULES, JUDGMENTAL SCARY

AUTHORITARIAN FIGURE.

I WAS PRIDEFUL AT THIS POINT.

I DIDN'T NEED TO BE SAVED FROM

ANYTHING.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A MALE

DOMINATED RELIGION.

HE WAS ABLE TO SHOW ME IN THE

BIBLE HOW THAT WAS NOT THE CASE.

AS JESSICA AND JOSH READ THE

BIBLE, EVERYTHING THEY BELIEVED

AND NOT BELIEVED CHANGED.

I READ THE GOSPEL OF JOHN

FIRST.

I REMEMBER LOOKING AT JOSH

SAYING WOW.

I THINK THIS IS IT.

THIS IS THE TRUTH.

MY HEART SOFTENED AND I BELIEVED

JESUS WAS WHO HE SAID HE WAS.

HE WAS GOD.

THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD.

I REMEMBER DAN LOOKING AT US

SAYING POINT BLANK, HAVE YOU

ACCEPTED JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND

SAVIOR?

WE BOTH BLURTED OUT YES.

WE MEANT IT.

DAN SAID YOUR ETERNITY IS

SETTLED ISN'T THAT SOMETHING.

WHEN JESSICA GOT HOME, SHE

HAD TO FACE THE EVIL CHARACTERS

SHE CREATED AND INTRODUCED TO

OTHERS.

I FELT UTTER DESPAIR.

I SAID MOM I DON'T THINK

JESUS CAN FORGIVE ME.

SHE SAID FOR YOUR ART?

BECAUSE IT IS SATANIC?

YES.

SOMETHING TOLD ME GO OPEN THE

SHADE.

IT WASN'T A VOICE I HEARD.

IT WAS IN MY HEART.

I CRAWLED OVER, TEARS COMING

BACK, THERE WAS A HUGE RAINBOW

JUST STRAIGHT UP OVER THE FIELD.

I FELT LIKE GOD WALKED IN THAT

ROOM WITH ME AND SAID I FORGIVE

YOU, IT IS OKAY.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED BACK SINCE.

JESSICA AND JOSH LITERALLY

DUMPED ALL OF THE DARK ART WORK.

JESSICA REMOVED HERSELF FROM

EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE ACULT.

THE COUPLE STARTED GOING TO

CHURCH AND STUDYING THE BIBLE.

IF YOU COME TO HIM, HE'LL

GIVE YOU REST.

I FEEL LIKE A BIG WEIGHT WAS

LIFTED OFF OUR LIVES.

JESSICA IS NO LONGER AFRAID

OF DEATH, NEITHER IS JULIA.

I AM NOT AFRAID, JESUS IS WITH

ME AND HE PROTECTS ME.

TODAY THE MESSAGE IS JESSICA

GALBROOT'S ART WORTH HAS

EVERYTHING TO DO WITH THE LIGHT

OF CHRIST.

ALL OF IT IS A MIRACLE THAT

SOMEONE LIKE ME COULD FIND THEIR

FAITH.

IT IS LIKE A VEIL LIFTING WHEN

YOU SEE IT.

ALL THE POWER OR INTRIGUE YOU

THOUGHT WAS WITH THE A CULT IS

NOTHING COMPARED TO GOD'S SUPER

NATURAL POWER.

I WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW GOD

FORGIVES ANYTHING.

HIS GRACE IS BIG ENOUGH FOR ALL

OF US.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK.

TERRY: GOD DOES FORGIVE

EVERYTHING AND GIVES YOU MORE

THAN YOU COULD HAVE HOPED FOR

IMAGINED.

EARLIER WE HEARD DECKER TALK

ABOUT HE WRITES ABOUT LIGHT AND

THE THINGS JESSICA PAINTS ABOUT.

THE DARKNESS CAN'T QUENCH THE

LIGHT.

THE SORT OF SHADE THAT COMES

OVER OUR EYES SO WE CAN'T SEE

WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT.

THE THING THAT BLOCKS US FROM

GOD IS OUR OWN UNWILLINGNESS TO

SURRENDER OURSELVES.

WHY DO WE MAKE IT SO DIFFICULT?

BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HIS LOVE.

HOW CAN WE TRUST HIM?

GOD WANTS TO SHOW YOU WHO HE IS.

HE WANTS TO LOVE YOU WITH THE

KIND OF LOVE THAT IS LIFE

CHANGING.

U YOU CAN SEE IT IN THIS

FAMILY'S STORY, CAN'T YOU?

YOU CAN SEE IT IN THEIR

CHILDREN.

GOD WANTS TO DO THAT FOR YOU.

IF THERE IS A DARKNESS IN YOUR

LIFE.

IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE

BINDERS ON, IF YOU ARE BURDENED

AND HEAVY LADEN, JESUS SAYS COME

TO ME.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU REST.

HE IS NOT A GOD WHO HIDES FROM

US OR MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US.

HE IS THERE, HE IS AVAILABLE.

WE HAVE TO CHOOSE TO COME.

WE HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING AS

SIMPLE AS GOD, SHOW ME WHO YOU

ARE.

I WANT TO KNOW YOU.

I WANT TO KNOW YOU.

JESSICA TALKED ABOUT BEING TOO

PRIDEFUL.

A LOT OF US GO THROUGH THAT.

WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A BETTER

ANSWER, BETTER WAY.

SOMETIMES IT IS NOT UNTIL

SOMETHING BRINGS US TO THE END

OF OURSELVES THAT WE SAY GOD SEW

ME WHO YOU ARE.

YOU CAN HAVE ALL OF ME.

ONCE WE EXPERIENCE HIM, WE ASK

OURSELVES WHY DID WE WAIT SO

LONG?

ALL OF THIS WAS AVAILABLE.

YOU SEE, THE BIBLE SAYS GOD

DOESN'T WISH ANYONE WOULD PERISH

AND LIVE WITH FEAR IN THEIR

HEARTS OR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING

ABOUT WHO HE IS.

HE WANTS ALL OF US TO BE WITH

HIM.

WE WERE CREATED TO THAT END.

WE HAVE A CHOICE.

WE HAVE A CHOICE.

GOD WANTS TO LOVE US AND LOVE

HIM IN RETURN.

IF YOU HAVEN'T EXPERIENCED THE

AMAZING LOVE OF GOD, TZ TODAY IS

THE DAY TO START THAT.

JUST ASK HIM.

JUST ASK HIM.

PRAY RIGHT NOW.

STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING, SAY

GOD, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT JESSICA

KNOWS.

I WANT TO KNOW YOU IN EVERY

ASPECT OF MY LIFE.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH

YOU LOVE ME AND I WANT TO GIVE

YOU MY HEART, MY LIFE, MY

FUTURE.

I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU CREATED

ME ALL THESE QUESTIONS ARE

ANSWERED IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH

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THIS.

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GORDAN?

GORDAN: WE HAVE INBOX

QUESTIONS ON TODAY'S TOPIC.

PATRICK SAYS I BELIEVE IN

SPIRITS LIKE DEMONS AND ANGELS.

I HEAR PEOPLE SAY THICK THINGS

LIKE HUMAN SPIRITS IN REFERENCE

TO GHOSTS.

WE DON'T BECOME GHOSTS, DO WE?

IN THE NEW TESTAMENT PAUL WRITES

TO BE ABSENT FROM THE BODY IS TO

BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD.

LET THAT BE THE HOPE OF ALL

CHRISTIANS EVERYWHERE.

TO BE ABSENT FROM THE BODY IS

YOU ARE TRANSLATED INTO HIS

PRESENCE.

THERE IS ONE INSTANCE WHERE THE

WITCH OF ENDOR IS CONSULTED BY

SAUL.

SHE IS STARTLED BY THE SPIRIT OF

SAMUEL COMING AND BEING WITH

THEM IN THE ROOM THAT LITVINENKO

LITERALLY, HE WAS CALLED BACK

FROM THE DEAD.

THAT IS THE ONE INSTANCE BUT IN

NEW TESTAMENT TIMES, THIS IS

AFTER THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION

OF JESUS CHRIST IT APPEARS TO

CHANGE THINGS.

THERE AREN'T A BUNCH OF HUMAN

GHOSTS, THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE

HAVE FOR THIS PROGRAM. LEAVE YOU

WITH PSALM 56, WHEN I AM AFRAID,

I PUT MY TRUST IN YOU.

FOR TERRY, ME, AND ALL OF US

HERE, GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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