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700 Club Interactive: The Truth About the Paranormal - October 31, 2012

Paranormal Week continues as author Ron Rhodes shares the truth about ghosts, mediums and psychic phenomena. Read Transcript


Gordon: ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," WE USE

TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY FOR EACH

OTHER AND EXPLORE TOPICS

THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

WELCOME TO "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

TODAY WE CONTINUE OUR SERIES

ON THE PARANORMAL.

SOME PEOPLE THINK IT IS JUST

A FIGMENT OF OUR

IMAGINATION, JUST SPOOKY

STORIES HEARD FROM CAMPFIRES

TO HOLLYWOOD.

BUT OTHERS SAY IS VERY

REAL.

IN SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS, WE

MET SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE

ENCOUNTER THIS UNEXPLAINED

PHENOMENON.

TAKE A LOOK.

WE TRY TO FIND GHOSTS BY

USING LIGHT.

EVERY TIME WHEN WE GOT CLOSE

TO THE JAIL, IT WOULD START

TWEAKING.

WE BASICALLY RECORDED

EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT.

WE DECIDED TO LISTEN TO IT.

AND IT WAS SCREAMING THINGS

LIKE -- IT WAS, LIKE,

YELLING, GET OUT, GET AWAY.

I REMEMBER WALKING WITH

MY FATHER, I WAS PROBABLY

ABOUT SIX YEARS OLD, AND I

SEEN A SILHOUETTE OF A MAN

STANDING NEXT TO A TREE IN A

GRAVEYARD.

I SAID TO MY DAD, DO YOU SEE

THIS?

HE DIDN'T, BUT I DID.

I ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING

IN MY ROOM, IT WAS SORT OF

LIKE A BLUISH LOOKING

FIGURE.

IT SCARED ME.

WE HAD TAKEN A PICTURE

ONE NIGHT, ABOUT 3:00 AND

THE MORNING AND IT WAS A

FULL-BODY ABERRATION.

SOMETIMES IT FOLLOWS ME.

SOMETIMES AT NIGHT, AT MY

HOUSE RIGHT NOW, MY DOOR

WILL OPEN AND SLAM DURING

THE NIGHT, AND THERE WILL BE

ALL WINDOWS CLOSED.

Gordon: JOINING US NOW

VIA SKYPE IS RON RHODES, THE

AUTHOR OF "THE TRUTH BEHIND

GHOSTS, MEDIUMS, AND

PHENOMENAS."

IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU

TODAY.

Gordon: WHY DO YOU

THINK WE'RE SO FASCINATED

WITH THE PARANORMAL?

I THINK PEOPLE ARE

INTERESTED IN WHAT IS GOING

ON BEYOND DEATH'S DOOR.

WE'RE LIVING IN THE AGE OF

THE AGING OF AMERICA.

TODAY ABOUT A QUARTER OF A

MILLION PEOPLE DIE EACH AND

EVERY DAY ON PLANET EARTH.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY

THINK THAT CHRISTIANITY

MIGHT NOT BE AN INTERESTING

RELIGION, WHEREAS SPIRITISM,

OR THIS IDEA OF CONTACTING

THE DEAD, IS VERY

INTERESTING.

THEY EVEN THINK ABOUT

CONTACTING -- BY CONTACTING

THE DEAD WE CAN LEARN HOW TO

LIVE OUR LIVES AND HOW TO

INVEST IN THE STOCK MARKET.

IT HAS CAUGHT ON NOT JUST

AMONG ADULTS, BUT EVEN AMONG

OUR TEENAGERS.

IN FACT, OVER 73% OF OUR

TEENAGERS CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN

ENGAGED IN PSYCHIC PHENOMENA

OVER THE PAST YEAR.

Gordon: TELL US WHAT IS

HAPPENING WHEN SOMEONE SAYS

THEY HAVE SEEN A GHOST OR

THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN

SOME KIND OF SEANCE AND THEY

HEAR A VOICE.

WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON?

BY AND LARGE, PEOPLE WHO

ARE HEARING THESE SOUNDS AND

WITNESSING THESE ABERRATIONS

HAVE SOME INVOLVEMENT IN THE

OCCULT.

IN MY LONG EXPERIENCE

DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO DEAL

WITH THE OCCULT, PEOPLE ARE

TRAFFICKING WITH DEMONS,

DEMONIC SPIRITS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE

DEAD ARE AMONG US.

IN FACT, SCRIPTURE REVEALS

THAT THE WICKED DEAD ARE

BEING HELD IN A PLACE OF

PUNISHMENT, FOR THE FUTURE

JUDGMENT, AND THE RIGHTEOUS

GO DIRECTLY WITH CHRIST IN

HEAVEN.

SO I THINK FROM A SCRIPT

SCRIPTURAL STANDPOINT, IF

YOU MESS AROUND WITH THE

OCCULT, YOU WILL HAVE

ENCOUNTERS.

IF YOU GET TOO CLOSE TO THE

FIRE, YOU WILL BE BURNED.

WHAT IS HAPPENING IS RELATED

TO 2 CORINTHIANS 14, THAT

SAYS THAT SATAN CAN MIMIC A

PERIOD OF LIFE.

AND SO CERTAINLY THEY CAN

MIMIC DEAD HUMANS TO GIVE

THIS GHOST CONTACT.

AND SATAN IS MORE THAN

WILLING TO HAVE HIS SPIRITS

COUNTERFEIT DEAD HUMANS IF

HE CAN PROMOTE THAT DEAD

RELIGION.

Gordon: THE BIBLE TALKS

ABOUT FAMILIAR SPIRITS.

WHAT IS THE BIBLE DESCRIBING

THERE?

I THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS

DESCRIBING DEMONIC SPIRITS.

VERY OFTEN IN OLD TESTAMENT

TIMES, PEOPLE WOULD CULT

WITH MEDIUMS AND SPIRITERS,

AND TODAY THEY CALL IT

CHANNELLERS, BUT IT IS

BASICALLY THE SAME THING.

AND THE MEDIUM MAKES CONTACT

WITH THE SPIRIT.

AND THIS SPIRIT OFTEN

PORTRAYS ITSELF AS A DEAD

PERSON.

BUT BASED ON SCRIPTURE, I

THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE

DISAVOWED.

THERE IS SOME IDEA THAT

SPORTS THIS IDEA, THE MEDIUM

OF ENDOR, AND THAT'S WHERE

THE CASE OF SAMUEL CAME BACK

FROM THE DEAD, BUT THAT WAS

A UNIQUE CASE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO BASE YOUR

THEOLOGY ON A UNIQUE CASE.

Gordon: AND EVEN IN

THAT UNIQUE CASE, YOU HAVE

SAMUEL SAYING, IF GOD WON'T

ANSWER YOU, WHY DO YOU THINK

I WILL?

YOU REALLY NEED TO BE GOING

TO GOD FOR THE ANSWERS.

AND THE INTERESTING THING

ABOUT THIS, IS THE MEDIUM OF

ENDOENDOR SHRIEKED TO ITS

FEET WHEN SAMUEL SHOWED UP.

Gordon: SHE WASN'T

EXPECTING ANYTHING TO

HAPPEN.

SHE WAS EXPECTING THE

USUAL.

WHY ARE THESE MEDIUMS SO

ACCURATE.

YOU SEE SOME OF THESE THINGS

ON TELEVISION, AND THE

ACCURACY IS A LITTLE

UNUSUAL?

WELL, I DON'T THINK

THEY'RE REAL ACCURATE.

I'VE EXAMINED VIRTUALLY

HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF

CASES.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE,

JOHN EDWARD IS ONE OF THE

PRIMARY PSYCHICS TODAY.

THEY HAVE TO TAPE ABOUT

EIGHT OR NINE HOURS IN ORDER

TO GET A HALF HOUR SHOW.

THEY HAVE TO SHIFT ALL OF

THEIR HITS FROM THE

MULTITUDE OF MISSES, IF I

MIGHT PUT IT THAT WAY.

AND VERY OFTEN THEY'RE GOOD

AT GUESSWORK.

IF THEY'RE IN A STUDIO

AUDIENCE, THEY MIGHT ASK IF

THERE IS A SOMEONE IN THE

AUDIENCE THAT HAS A

GRANDMOTHER WITH A NAME THAT

STARTS WITH "A" ARE "B," OR

"D," AND THERE IS BOUND TO

BE SOMEONE.

I HAVE VISITED SOME OF THESE

PSYCHICS AND WATCHED THEM DO

THEIR THING, AND I BELIEVE

THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY

WITNESSED DEMON POSSESSION

IN SOME CASES.

SO THERE IS SOMETHING SUPER

NATURAL GOING ON.

Gordon: WHAT ARE SOME

OF THE COMMON

MISCONCEPTIONS.

YOU SEE THESE TELEVISION

SHOWS WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE

PURSUING GHOSTS AND HAUNTED

HOUSES.

AND YOU'VE GOT, IN THE

MOVIES, REPRESENTATIONS OF

THE PARANORMAL.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE COMMON

MISCONCEPTIONS FOUND IN

THESE SHOWS?

ONE OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS

IS PSYCHIC NO PHENOMENA IS

A CHRISTIAN PHENOMENA.

AND IF YOU WATCH SOME OF

THESE PSYCHICS, LIKE CILIA

SYLVIA BROWN, WHO SAYS SHE

HAS A GIFT TO TALK TO THE

DEAD.

AND SHE'LL WARN YOU ABOUT

OCCULTISM.

SHE WARNS YOU ABOUT THAT,

BUT SHE HAS THE GIFT OF THE

HOLY SPIRIT, SHE SAYS, THAT

HAS GIVEN HER A POWER.

YOU MIGHT EVEN SEE AN ADD IN

THE NEWSPAPER, CALL ME, I'M

A CHRISTIAN PSYCHIC AND I'LL

GET IN CONTACT WITH YOUR

DEAD LOVED ONES.

THAT'S IS PROBABLY ONE OF

THE BIGGER MISCONCEPTIONS.

LET'S BE REAL CLEAR THAT ALL

OCCULTISM IS FORBIDDEN BY

GOD.

ALL PSYCHIC PHENOMENA IS

FORBIDDEN BY GOD, EVEN IF

YOU CALL IT CHRISTIAN.

Gordon: IS THAT WHAT

PROMPTED YOU TO WRITE THE

BOOK, TO ISSUE AN WARNING?

AND IF SO, FOR CHRISTIANS,

HOW CAN THEY DISCERN BETWEEN

THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

AND WHAT THESE PSYCHICS ARE

DOING?

WELL, I THINK THAT WHAT

THE PSYCHICS ARE DEALING

WITH IS TO PROVIDE FORBIDDEN

KNOWLEDGE, SECRET KNOWLEDGE,

IN REGARD TO THE FUTURE AND

THEIR LOVED ONES, AND TO

ENABLE CONTACT WITH THE

DEAD.

HERE IS ONE GOOD POLICY TO

FOLLOW, ACT 17, WE FIND THE

BARREANS TESTING ALL THINGS

AGAINST SCRIPTURE.

IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO

CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN

PSYCHIC, BY CONSULTING

SCRIPTURE, YOU CAN SEE THAT

ALL PSYCHICS ARE OUT OF

BOUNDS.

AND DEUTERONOMY 13 HAS A

GREAT PASSAGE.

IN THAT PASSAGE, IT TALKS

ABOUT HOW EVEN IF A MEDIUM

OR A PSYCHIC IS ACCURATE IN

THROUGH PREDICTIONS, BUT

THEY SAY SOMETHING IN REGARD

TO FALSE DOCTRINE, LIKE THEY

TEACH A DIFFERENT JESUS OR

GOSPEL, OR A DIFFERENT

CONCEPT OF GOD, LIKE BELIEF

IN THE IDEA THAT EVERYTHING

IS GOD -- EVEN IF THEY

TEACH -- IN OTHER WORDS, IF

THEY SAY SOMETHING THAT IS

ACCURATE THAT COMES TRUE,

BUT THEY TEACH A FALSE

DOCTRINE, THE BIBLE SAYS TO

COMPLETELY IGNORE THEM AND

DO NOT FOLLOW THEM.

SO I GUESS BOTTOM LINE, TEST

ALL THINGS AGAINST

SCRIPTURE.

1 THESSALONIANS 5 TELLS US

TO TEST ALL THINGS.

Gordon: RON'S BOOK,

"THE TRUTH BEHIND GHOSTS,

MEDIUMS, AND PSYC PSYCHIC

PHENOMENONS."

THANK YOU FOREBEING HERE.

THANK YOU.

MY PLEASURE.

AND THEY TESTED

EVERYTHING, AND FIND OUT

WHAT FINALLY GAVE THEM THEIR

SIGHT.

SIGHT, RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Gordon: IN A REMOTE

PART OF INDIA, A MOTHER AND

HER DAUGHTER BOTH SUFFERED

FROM BLINDING CATARACTS.

THEY HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF

A MEDICAL DOCTOR UNTIL A

PASTOR TOLD THEM ABOUT

"OPERATION BLESSING."

Terry: THE MOUNTAINS OF

NORTHWEST INDIA ARE

MAJESTIC, BUT CAMALA AND HER

10-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WERE

UNABLE TO SEE THEM.

THEY WERE BOTH BORN WITH

SEVERE CATARACTS.

WHEN PEOPLE CALLED ME

BLIND, I WOULD GET OFFENDED

AND BE VERY ANGRY, BUT I

FELT EVEN SADDER WHEN MY

DAUGHTER WAS BORN BLIND.

I CAN SEE THINGS THAT ARE

VERY CLOSE TO ME, BUT I

CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE.

Terry: MANJU'S FATHER,

HANSI, WAS VERY WORRIED

ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER'S

FUTURE.

I WANTED TO SEND MY

DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL, BUT

WHAT'S THE USE?

SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO

READ, AND SHE COULD GET HURT

WHILE WALKING BACK AND FORTH

FROM SCHOOL.

Terry: THEIR FAMILY WAS

CUT OFF FROM THE OUTSIDE

WORLD.

THEY HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF

A MEDICAL DOCTOR.

ALL THEY KNEW WERE THERE

VILLAGE PRACTICES, A MIXTURE

OF HINDUISM AND BLACK

MAGIC.

THE WITCH DOCTORS WOULD

EXPECT A LOT OF THINGS FROM

US.

WE HAD TO GIVE THEM OUR

CHICKENS AND OUR FOOD FOR

THEIR RITUALS, BUT WE DIDN'T

SEE ANY POSITIVE

EXPERIENCE.

INTERPRETER

Terry: THE BITTER

EXPERIENCE LEFT HANSI LESS

HOPE OF EVERY GETTING HELP.

SO WHEN SOMEON A VILLAGE

PASTOR TOLD THEM "OPERATION

BLESSING" WANTED TO GIVE

THEM CATARACT SURGERY.

I WAS AFRAID THEY WOULD

BE WORSE.

Terry: BUT THEY DECIDED

TO GET THE SURGERY.

CAMALA'S CATARACTS WERE

DEEPLY ROOTED.

AFTER THE BANDAGES WERE

REMOVED, IT WAS CLEAR THAT

CAMALA'S SURGERY WAS A

SUCCESS.

THE FIRST THING SHE WANTED

TO DO WAS SEE HER DAUGHTER.

AS MANJU SLOWLY WOKE UP AND

OPENED HER EYES, CAMALA KNEW

SHE EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO

BE OKAY.

I WAS OVERJOYED WITH

TEARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN I SAW

MY CHILDREN.

NOW MY DAUGHTER CAN GO TO

SCHOOL.

I CAN ALREADY READ A

LITTLE BIT.

AND I CAN DRAW WATER FROM

THE WELL AND DO ALL OF THE

OTHER CHORES.

I CAN BUY AND COOK US

FOOD.

I CAN VISIT MY RELATIVES

WITHOUT ANYONE'S HELP.

I CAN DO EVERYTHING MYSELF.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

PAYING FOR THE SURGERIES.

YOU DIDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING

FROM US, LIKE THE WITCH

DOCTORS.

PEOPLE ARE AMAZED BY THIS

MIRACLE AND YOUR KINDNESS.

IT IS REALLY A TIME OF GREAT

HAPPINESS.

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UP NEXT, A FAMILY'S DREAM

HOUSE QUICKLY TURNED INTO A

LIVING NIGHTMARE.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS

ONE.

Gordon: WHEN DEAN AND

JENNIFER MULL MOVED INTO

THEIR NEW HOME, THEY WERE

TOLD THE PREVIOUS TENANTS

LEFT BECAUSE OF THE HOUSE.

THE MULLS COULDN'T

UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT SOON

THEY FOUND OUT.

AT FIRST, EVERYTHING WAS

NORMAL.

THE HOUSE APPEARED NORMAL.

THERE REALLY WAS NOTHING

UNUSUAL.

Reporter: 521 WAS THE

NEW HOME OF THE MULL

FAMILY.

DEAN AND JENNIFER MOVED

THEIR NINE CHILDREN ACROSS

THE STATE OF OREGON TO

PASTOR A CHURCH.

BUT AS TIME WENT ON, OUR

CHILDREN STARTED COMING TO

ME, ASKING WHAT I WANTED.

THEY ASKED ME, WHY DID YOU

CALL ME, MOM?

WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING MY

NAME?

AND IT WOULDN'T BE ME THAT

CALLED THEM TO ME.

WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS

STUFF.

LIKE, MOM ASKED US FOR ICE

WATER, AND WE WENT AND GAVE

HER ICE WATER, AND SHE SAID

THANK YOU, BUT SHE DIDN'T

ASK FOR IT.

Reporter: DEAN TRIED TO

PROTECT HIS FAMILY FROM WHAT

HE THOUGHT WAS A PHYSICAL

BEING.

AS TIME WENT ON, I WOULD

BE LAYING IN BED, AND I

WOULD HEAR WHAT SOUNDED LIKE

SOMEBODY COMING UP THE STEPS

FROM THE BASEMENT, WHEN WE

DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY

DOWNSTAIRS.

AND I WAS CONCERNED, FIRST

OF ALL, WE MIGHT HAVE HAD AN

INTRUDER IN THE HOUSE.

I'D JUMP OUT OF BED AND GO

GRAB SOMETHING AND OPEN UP

THE DOOR OF THE BASEMENT AND

THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYBODY

THERE.

Reporter: 14-YEAR-OLD

CHARLES FELT LIKE HE WAS

BEING WATCHED WHEN HE WENT

DOWN TO THE BASEMENT.

I WAS PUTTING A BOX OF

CHRISTMAS STUFF INSIDE

THERE, AND THEN THE DOOR

SLAMMED, AND I WAS TRYING TO

GET OUT.

I COULDN'T GET OUT.

IT WAS SHUT.

IT WOULDN'T OPEN.

IT FELT LIKE IT WAS LOCKED.

AT THAT POINT, I KNEW --

I KNEW IT WAS A DEMON

PRESENCE IN OUR HOUSE.

NONE OF OUR KIDS WOULD GO

DOWNSTAIRS WITHOUT HAVING

THE UPSTAIRS OPEN, AND YOU

HAD TO STAND THERE AT THAT

DOORWAY AND WATCH FOR THEM

AND WAIT SO THAT THEY COULD

SHOUT IF THEY NEEDED YOU TO

COME BACK UPSTAIRS.

THEY WOULD SLEEP IN OUR

ROOM, ACTUALLY ON OUR FLOOR

AT ONE POINT, OR ON THE

LIVING ROOM FLOOR.

THEY WOULDN'T EVEN GO INTO

BEDROOMS AND SLEEP.

THEY WANTED TO BE THAT CLOSE

TO MOM AND DAD.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

JENNIFER COULDN'T SLEEP AT

NIGHT, EITHER.

I WOULD BE ASLEEP, AND

USUALLY THERE WOULD JUST BE

A FLASH OF LIGHT THAT WOULD

FLASH INTO MY FACE, AND THAT

WOULD WAKE ME UP.

AND THERE WOULD BE

SOMEBODY'S FACE IN MY FACE

OR SOMEBODY AT THE FOOT OF

THE BED OR SOMEBODY IN THE

HALL THAT I COULD SEE.

OR MUSIC, JUST STRANGE MUSIC

THAT WOULD PLAY IN THE

MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

Reporter: DEAN AND

JENNIFER FASTED AND PRAYED

OVER THE SUPER NATURAL

ACTIVITY OVER THEIR HOME FOR

ALMOST A YEAR, WHEN JENNIFER

HIT HER BREAKING POINT.

I WAS WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB," AND I PUT IT ON MOST

DAYS AS I CLEAN MY ROOM, AND

THAT'S WHEN PAT ROBERTSON

HAD A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE

ABOUT IT.

Pat: THERE IS SOMEBODY

BEING TOMORROW NIGHTED BY

DEMONIC IMAGES.

YOU CAN'T SLEEP.

YOU'RE SEEING SORT OF

HALLUCINATIONS, AND YOU

CAN'T GET FREE, AND YOU

LITERALLY FEEL YOU'RE GOING

OUT OF YOUR MIND.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE

BIND THAT SPIRIT OF TORMENT

AND WE CAST IT FORTH IN

JESUS' NAME.

BE FREE FROM THIS MOMENT

ON.

I CLAIMED THAT AT THAT

POINT FOR OUR FAMILY.

AND IT LEFT THAT DAY.

IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A TEMPER

TANTRUM IT HAD ON ITS WAY

OUT.

WHERE IT SWUNG ALL OF THE

BOOKS ON THE BOOKCASES, AND

IT'S ALL GONE.

DEFINITELY A HOUSE SET

FREE.

WHEN I CAME HOME,

EVERYBODY WAS MORE RELAXED.

THE CHILDREN WERE MORE

PLAYFUL.

JUST EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE

FELT SO MUCH BETTER, AND

JUST THAT TENSION HAS BEEN

RELEASED.

IT REITERATES OVER AND

OVER AGAIN THE POWER OF OUR

GOD COMPARED TO SATAN.

REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING THAT

HE TRIES OR ANYTHING THAT HE

DOES, SATAN IS DEFINITELY

SUBJECT TO OUR GOD.

GREATER IS IN ME THAN HE

THAT IS IN THE WORLD.

ABSOLUTELY A TRUE

STATEMENT.

IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Gordon: IT IS TRUE.

THE AMAZING TRUTH THAT WE

ALL HAVE AS BELIEVERS IS WE

HAVE AUTHORITY.

AND WE HAVE AUTHORITY OVER

ALL OF THE WORKS OF THE

ENEMY.

WE CAN TAKE AUTHORITY OVER

IT.

THAT IS GIVEN TO US AS

BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST.

AS HE WAS IN THE WORLD, SO

ARE WE.

AND JESUS WOULD CAST OUT

DEMONS.

HE DID IT REPEATEDLY.

IN ALL FOUR OF THE GOSPELS,

YOU HAVE THE ACCOUNTS OF HIM

CASTING OUT DEMONS.

SO TAKE THE AUTHORITY THAT

YOU HAVE AS A BELIEVER.

IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT

YOU'RE GOING, I DON'T

UNDERSTAND THIS.

YOU DON'T NEED TO UNDERSTAND

THAT.

TAKE AUTHORITY OVER IT, AND

TELL IT TO LEAVE, AND

COMMAND IT TO DO THAT IN

JESUS' NAME.

THEY WILL.

THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION

HERE.

THEY HAVE TO RESPOND TO YOUR

AUTHORITY.

WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF

QUESTIONS ON THE

PARANORMAL.

LET'S GO OVER TO OUR

CHATROOM.

JOSEPH?

WE HAVE CATHY, AND SHE IS

ASKING, "HOW DOES SOME

ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE FIT

INTO ALL OF THIS OCCULT

STUFF?"

Gordon: SOMETIMES IT

CAN, AND SOMETIMES IT

CAN'T.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SORT OF

HINDU SIDE OF THINGS,

ARUVEYDA, THERE ARE THINGS

THAT INVOLVE SAND SCRIPTS

THAT ARE TRYING TO CALL ON

HINDU GODS.

IF THAT'S INVOLVED IN IT,

THEN ABSOLUTELY YOU'RE

ENGAGING IN IDOLATRY.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY

HEALING FROM IT.

AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE

THINGS THAT ARE SORT OF

NATURAL IN THE ENVIRONMENT,

THAT ARE HEALTHFUL.

LOOK AT SOMETHING AS BASIC

ASSA AS ASPIRIN, WELL, THAT

ORIGINALLY CAME FROM WILLOW

BARK.

THERE ARE WAYS THAT

MEDICINES ARE FOUND IN

NATURE.

AND YOU IF YOU RESEARCH THE

HISTORY OF THE AVERAGE

MEDICATION THAT IS ALREADY

IN YOUR MEDICINE CABINET,

YOU'LL FIND THERE WAS AN

ORGANIC COMPOUND AT THE

BEGINNING OF THAT.

SO SOMETIMES ALTERNATIVE

MEDICINE IS JUST TRYING TO

AWAKEN US THAT THERE ARE

NATURAL HEALING PROPERTIES

IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT

PLANTS.

AND THAT PART OF IT IS

CERTAINLY NOT PSYCHIC OR

PARANORMAL.

BUT ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES

MEDITATING ON OTHER GODS ARE

TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH

YOUR INNER GOD, THOSE KINDS

OF THINGS, AVOID.

MICHELLE HAS GOT THE NEXT

QUESTION.

SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE

CHATROOM WANT TO KNOW ABOUT

THIS QUESTION, GORDON, "DO

MEDIUM PSYCHICS BELIEVE THEY

CAN CONTROL THESE SPIRITS?"

Gordon: I THINK SOME

ACTUALLY DO.

IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THEY

THINK THEY'RE IN CONTROL,

AND THE REALITY IS THEY'RE

NOT.

AND THEY'RE WALKING DOWN A

PATH THAT ULTIMATELY LEADS

TO POSSESSION.

AND SO THEY'RE -- IT'S SORT

OF THE OLD ADAGE FROM

ALCOHOLIC ANONYMOUS, YOU

START DRINKING, AND THEN THE

DRINK DRINKS YOU.

IT'S THE SAME THING, YOU

THINK YOU'RE IN CONTROL, AND

YOU'RE NOT.

ANYBODY THAT THINKS YOU CAN

DABBLE IN THIS AND COME AWAY

WITH NO CONSEQUENCES, YOU'RE

WRONG.

LET'S TAKE SOME PHONE

CALLS.

HERE IS LINDA FROM

DELAWARE.

HI, LINDA.

Caller: THANKS FOR

TAKING MY CALL.

Gordon: MY PLEASURE.

Caller: CAN YOU HEAR

ME?

Gordon: I CAN HEAR

YOU.

Caller: I'VE BEEN

DIAGNOSED WITH ATRIAL

FIBULATION.

I KNOW YOUR FATHER HAD

THAT.

I CONTACTED THE HOSPITAL

WHERE HE WENT, BUT HERE I'M

IN DELAWARE, AND I'M A

SINGLE GIRL.

SO, ANYWAY, I HAVE HAD IT

FOR SIX YEARS.

AND MY DOCTOR, WHO I'VE HAD

FOR FOUR YEARS, THIS DOCTOR

THAT KNOWS ABOUT MY A-FIB,

HE WAS TREATING ME WITH A

HEART RHYTHM PILL, BLOOD

PRESSURE PILL, WHICH I HAVE

LOW ANYWAY -- CAN'T FIGURE

THAT OUT.

ANYWAY, HE SAYS YOU'RE DOING

OKAY, AND I'M GETTING MORE

AND MORE AND MORE, AND SO A

MONTH AGO, I SAID, HOW ABOUT

IF I WEAR A HEART MONITOR

MACHINE.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

HOW BAD THESE ARE.

I'M 66 YEARS OLD, AND I SAID

MY POOR HEART CAN'T CONTINUE

LIKE THIS.

I WORE THE HEART MONITOR,

AND LO AND BEHOLD THEY

CALLED ME BEFORE MY TIME WAS

UP, AND THEY SAID YOU HAVE

TO BE ON THAT NEW BLOOD

THINNER CALLS PERDAXA.

AND I SAID NO, NO, I'M

SCARED TO DEATH TO BE ON

THAT.

AND HE SAID YOU HAVE TO BE

BECAUSE YOU'RE AT A HIGH

RISK FOR A STROKE.

Gordon: RIGHT NOW LET'S

JUT PRAJUST PRAY FOR YOU.

Caller: OKAY, THANK

YOU.

Gordon: LORD, WE SPEAK

PEACE TO LINDA'S HEART --

Caller: JESUS, HEAL

ME.

Gordon: AND WE LIFT HER

TO YOUR THRONE OF GRACE.

WE COME BOLDLY AND WE ASK

FOR LINDA'S HEART.

WE ASK FOR HER ACID REFLUX

AS WELL.

WE ASK FOR EVERYTHING

CONCERNING HER HEALTH, AND

WE JUST SPEAK PEACE TO HER

NOW.

AND LET THIS ARRHYTHMIA BE

STILLED NOW IN JESUS' NAME.

AND ALL OF THE ELECTRICAL

SIGNALS TO THE HEART BE

NORMAL AND BE HEALED NOW.

WE SPEAK TO ALL OF HER

VALVES, THAT THEY WOULD BE

NORMAL.

AND NO FLUTTERING AND NO

A-FIB, AND EVERYTHING BE

HEALED.

NOW.

Caller: HELP ME, LORD.

Gordon: AND WE JUST

BREAK OFF OF HER ANY FEAR,

ANY FEAR OF STROKE, ANY FEAR

OF BLOOD LOSS --

Caller: SURGERY.

Gordon: AND ANY FEAR OF

SURGERY.

WE JUST BREAK IT OFF OF HER

RIGHT NOW.

AND WE SPEAK OVER HER THE

PEACE THAT SURPASSES ALL

UNDERSTANDING.

SO, LORD, WE JUST CAST ALL

OF THESE CARES UPON YOU.

AND NO MORE ANXIETY, BUT

JUST RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE,

AND JOY IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

BE WITH HER NOW, FOR WE ASK

IT IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

Caller: AMEN.

OH, GORDON, I CAN'T WAIT TO

SEE THIS TOMORROW MORNING.

THE GIRL TOLD ME IT WOULD BE

ON TOMORROW.

Gordon: IT WILL BE ON

TOMORROW.

Caller: I GET TO SEE

YOU GUYS 11 A.M. HERE AND

3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.

I JUMP FROM WHEREVER I AM

JUST TO COME HOME TO SEE IT

ALL OVER AGAIN.

Gordon: THIS ONE WILL

BE ON AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING

AT ABC FAMILY.

Caller: AND THEN I GET

YOU ON A 3:00 IN THE

AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU.

Gordon: THANK YOU FOR

CALLING.

Caller: ALL OF THE

LITERATURE YOU SEND ME, I'M

GOING TO MAKE RESERVATIONS

TO COME DOWN THERE, BUT I

WISH YOU HAD A SINGLES'

GROUP AND THEY COULD MEET

AND COME INTO THE SHOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD

DO THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE

WONDERFUL FOR US SINGLE

LADIES.

Gordon: I DON'T KNOW

ABOUT -- MICHELLE IS

LAUGHING AT ME OVER HERE.

MAYBE WE CAN GET A SINGLES'

GROUP GOING ON AND MICHELLE

CAN HEAD IT UP.

IF YOU WANT TO STAY AT A

NICE HOTEL, THE FOUNDS' INN,

RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE

STUDIO.

Caller: IT WOULD BE SO

NICE.

THANK YOU, GORDON.

Gordon: GOD BLESS YOU.

Caller: GOD BLESS YOU,

TOO.

TELL YOUR DADDY I SAID HI.

Gordon: WILL DO.

THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE

FOR THIS PROGRAM.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM PSALM 72: "BLESS

HIS GLORIOUS NAME FOREVER.

LET THE WHOLE EARTH BE

FILLED WITH HIS GLORY."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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