Gordon: ON "700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE," WE USE
TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY FOR EACH
OTHER AND EXPLORE TOPICS
THAT MATTER TO YOU.
WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN
THE WORLD TODAY.
WELCOME TO "700 CLUB
INTERACTIVE."
TODAY WE CONTINUE OUR SERIES
ON THE PARANORMAL.
SOME PEOPLE THINK IT IS JUST
A FIGMENT OF OUR
IMAGINATION, JUST SPOOKY
STORIES HEARD FROM CAMPFIRES
TO HOLLYWOOD.
BUT OTHERS SAY IS VERY
REAL.
IN SALEM, MASSACHUSETTS, WE
MET SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO HAVE
ENCOUNTER THIS UNEXPLAINED
PHENOMENON.
TAKE A LOOK.
WE TRY TO FIND GHOSTS BY
USING LIGHT.
EVERY TIME WHEN WE GOT CLOSE
TO THE JAIL, IT WOULD START
TWEAKING.
WE BASICALLY RECORDED
EVERYTHING THAT NIGHT.
WE DECIDED TO LISTEN TO IT.
AND IT WAS SCREAMING THINGS
LIKE -- IT WAS, LIKE,
YELLING, GET OUT, GET AWAY.
I REMEMBER WALKING WITH
MY FATHER, I WAS PROBABLY
ABOUT SIX YEARS OLD, AND I
SEEN A SILHOUETTE OF A MAN
STANDING NEXT TO A TREE IN A
GRAVEYARD.
I SAID TO MY DAD, DO YOU SEE
THIS?
HE DIDN'T, BUT I DID.
I ACTUALLY HAD SOMETHING
IN MY ROOM, IT WAS SORT OF
LIKE A BLUISH LOOKING
FIGURE.
IT SCARED ME.
WE HAD TAKEN A PICTURE
ONE NIGHT, ABOUT 3:00 AND
THE MORNING AND IT WAS A
FULL-BODY ABERRATION.
SOMETIMES IT FOLLOWS ME.
SOMETIMES AT NIGHT, AT MY
HOUSE RIGHT NOW, MY DOOR
WILL OPEN AND SLAM DURING
THE NIGHT, AND THERE WILL BE
ALL WINDOWS CLOSED.
Gordon: JOINING US NOW
VIA SKYPE IS RON RHODES, THE
AUTHOR OF "THE TRUTH BEHIND
GHOSTS, MEDIUMS, AND
PHENOMENAS."
IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU
TODAY.
Gordon: WHY DO YOU
THINK WE'RE SO FASCINATED
WITH THE PARANORMAL?
I THINK PEOPLE ARE
INTERESTED IN WHAT IS GOING
ON BEYOND DEATH'S DOOR.
WE'RE LIVING IN THE AGE OF
THE AGING OF AMERICA.
TODAY ABOUT A QUARTER OF A
MILLION PEOPLE DIE EACH AND
EVERY DAY ON PLANET EARTH.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TODAY
THINK THAT CHRISTIANITY
MIGHT NOT BE AN INTERESTING
RELIGION, WHEREAS SPIRITISM,
OR THIS IDEA OF CONTACTING
THE DEAD, IS VERY
INTERESTING.
THEY EVEN THINK ABOUT
CONTACTING -- BY CONTACTING
THE DEAD WE CAN LEARN HOW TO
LIVE OUR LIVES AND HOW TO
INVEST IN THE STOCK MARKET.
IT HAS CAUGHT ON NOT JUST
AMONG ADULTS, BUT EVEN AMONG
OUR TEENAGERS.
IN FACT, OVER 73% OF OUR
TEENAGERS CLAIM TO HAVE BEEN
ENGAGED IN PSYCHIC PHENOMENA
OVER THE PAST YEAR.
Gordon: TELL US WHAT IS
HAPPENING WHEN SOMEONE SAYS
THEY HAVE SEEN A GHOST OR
THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN
SOME KIND OF SEANCE AND THEY
HEAR A VOICE.
WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON?
BY AND LARGE, PEOPLE WHO
ARE HEARING THESE SOUNDS AND
WITNESSING THESE ABERRATIONS
HAVE SOME INVOLVEMENT IN THE
OCCULT.
IN MY LONG EXPERIENCE
DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO DEAL
WITH THE OCCULT, PEOPLE ARE
TRAFFICKING WITH DEMONS,
DEMONIC SPIRITS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE
DEAD ARE AMONG US.
IN FACT, SCRIPTURE REVEALS
THAT THE WICKED DEAD ARE
BEING HELD IN A PLACE OF
PUNISHMENT, FOR THE FUTURE
JUDGMENT, AND THE RIGHTEOUS
GO DIRECTLY WITH CHRIST IN
HEAVEN.
SO I THINK FROM A SCRIPT
SCRIPTURAL STANDPOINT, IF
YOU MESS AROUND WITH THE
OCCULT, YOU WILL HAVE
ENCOUNTERS.
IF YOU GET TOO CLOSE TO THE
FIRE, YOU WILL BE BURNED.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS RELATED
TO 2 CORINTHIANS 14, THAT
SAYS THAT SATAN CAN MIMIC A
PERIOD OF LIFE.
AND SO CERTAINLY THEY CAN
MIMIC DEAD HUMANS TO GIVE
THIS GHOST CONTACT.
AND SATAN IS MORE THAN
WILLING TO HAVE HIS SPIRITS
COUNTERFEIT DEAD HUMANS IF
HE CAN PROMOTE THAT DEAD
RELIGION.
Gordon: THE BIBLE TALKS
ABOUT FAMILIAR SPIRITS.
WHAT IS THE BIBLE DESCRIBING
THERE?
I THINK THAT THE BIBLE IS
DESCRIBING DEMONIC SPIRITS.
VERY OFTEN IN OLD TESTAMENT
TIMES, PEOPLE WOULD CULT
WITH MEDIUMS AND SPIRITERS,
AND TODAY THEY CALL IT
CHANNELLERS, BUT IT IS
BASICALLY THE SAME THING.
AND THE MEDIUM MAKES CONTACT
WITH THE SPIRIT.
AND THIS SPIRIT OFTEN
PORTRAYS ITSELF AS A DEAD
PERSON.
BUT BASED ON SCRIPTURE, I
THINK THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE
DISAVOWED.
THERE IS SOME IDEA THAT
SPORTS THIS IDEA, THE MEDIUM
OF ENDOR, AND THAT'S WHERE
THE CASE OF SAMUEL CAME BACK
FROM THE DEAD, BUT THAT WAS
A UNIQUE CASE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO BASE YOUR
THEOLOGY ON A UNIQUE CASE.
Gordon: AND EVEN IN
THAT UNIQUE CASE, YOU HAVE
SAMUEL SAYING, IF GOD WON'T
ANSWER YOU, WHY DO YOU THINK
I WILL?
YOU REALLY NEED TO BE GOING
TO GOD FOR THE ANSWERS.
AND THE INTERESTING THING
ABOUT THIS, IS THE MEDIUM OF
ENDOENDOR SHRIEKED TO ITS
FEET WHEN SAMUEL SHOWED UP.
Gordon: SHE WASN'T
EXPECTING ANYTHING TO
HAPPEN.
SHE WAS EXPECTING THE
USUAL.
WHY ARE THESE MEDIUMS SO
ACCURATE.
YOU SEE SOME OF THESE THINGS
ON TELEVISION, AND THE
ACCURACY IS A LITTLE
UNUSUAL?
WELL, I DON'T THINK
THEY'RE REAL ACCURATE.
I'VE EXAMINED VIRTUALLY
HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF
CASES.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE,
JOHN EDWARD IS ONE OF THE
PRIMARY PSYCHICS TODAY.
THEY HAVE TO TAPE ABOUT
EIGHT OR NINE HOURS IN ORDER
TO GET A HALF HOUR SHOW.
THEY HAVE TO SHIFT ALL OF
THEIR HITS FROM THE
MULTITUDE OF MISSES, IF I
MIGHT PUT IT THAT WAY.
AND VERY OFTEN THEY'RE GOOD
AT GUESSWORK.
IF THEY'RE IN A STUDIO
AUDIENCE, THEY MIGHT ASK IF
THERE IS A SOMEONE IN THE
AUDIENCE THAT HAS A
GRANDMOTHER WITH A NAME THAT
STARTS WITH "A" ARE "B," OR
"D," AND THERE IS BOUND TO
BE SOMEONE.
I HAVE VISITED SOME OF THESE
PSYCHICS AND WATCHED THEM DO
THEIR THING, AND I BELIEVE
THAT I HAVE ACTUALLY
WITNESSED DEMON POSSESSION
IN SOME CASES.
SO THERE IS SOMETHING SUPER
NATURAL GOING ON.
Gordon: WHAT ARE SOME
OF THE COMMON
MISCONCEPTIONS.
YOU SEE THESE TELEVISION
SHOWS WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE
PURSUING GHOSTS AND HAUNTED
HOUSES.
AND YOU'VE GOT, IN THE
MOVIES, REPRESENTATIONS OF
THE PARANORMAL.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE COMMON
MISCONCEPTIONS FOUND IN
THESE SHOWS?
ONE OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS
IS PSYCHIC NO PHENOMENA IS
A CHRISTIAN PHENOMENA.
AND IF YOU WATCH SOME OF
THESE PSYCHICS, LIKE CILIA
SYLVIA BROWN, WHO SAYS SHE
HAS A GIFT TO TALK TO THE
DEAD.
AND SHE'LL WARN YOU ABOUT
OCCULTISM.
SHE WARNS YOU ABOUT THAT,
BUT SHE HAS THE GIFT OF THE
HOLY SPIRIT, SHE SAYS, THAT
HAS GIVEN HER A POWER.
YOU MIGHT EVEN SEE AN ADD IN
THE NEWSPAPER, CALL ME, I'M
A CHRISTIAN PSYCHIC AND I'LL
GET IN CONTACT WITH YOUR
DEAD LOVED ONES.
THAT'S IS PROBABLY ONE OF
THE BIGGER MISCONCEPTIONS.
LET'S BE REAL CLEAR THAT ALL
OCCULTISM IS FORBIDDEN BY
GOD.
ALL PSYCHIC PHENOMENA IS
FORBIDDEN BY GOD, EVEN IF
YOU CALL IT CHRISTIAN.
Gordon: IS THAT WHAT
PROMPTED YOU TO WRITE THE
BOOK, TO ISSUE AN WARNING?
AND IF SO, FOR CHRISTIANS,
HOW CAN THEY DISCERN BETWEEN
THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
AND WHAT THESE PSYCHICS ARE
DOING?
WELL, I THINK THAT WHAT
THE PSYCHICS ARE DEALING
WITH IS TO PROVIDE FORBIDDEN
KNOWLEDGE, SECRET KNOWLEDGE,
IN REGARD TO THE FUTURE AND
THEIR LOVED ONES, AND TO
ENABLE CONTACT WITH THE
DEAD.
HERE IS ONE GOOD POLICY TO
FOLLOW, ACT 17, WE FIND THE
BARREANS TESTING ALL THINGS
AGAINST SCRIPTURE.
IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO
CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN
PSYCHIC, BY CONSULTING
SCRIPTURE, YOU CAN SEE THAT
ALL PSYCHICS ARE OUT OF
BOUNDS.
AND DEUTERONOMY 13 HAS A
GREAT PASSAGE.
IN THAT PASSAGE, IT TALKS
ABOUT HOW EVEN IF A MEDIUM
OR A PSYCHIC IS ACCURATE IN
THROUGH PREDICTIONS, BUT
THEY SAY SOMETHING IN REGARD
TO FALSE DOCTRINE, LIKE THEY
TEACH A DIFFERENT JESUS OR
GOSPEL, OR A DIFFERENT
CONCEPT OF GOD, LIKE BELIEF
IN THE IDEA THAT EVERYTHING
IS GOD -- EVEN IF THEY
TEACH -- IN OTHER WORDS, IF
THEY SAY SOMETHING THAT IS
ACCURATE THAT COMES TRUE,
BUT THEY TEACH A FALSE
DOCTRINE, THE BIBLE SAYS TO
COMPLETELY IGNORE THEM AND
DO NOT FOLLOW THEM.
SO I GUESS BOTTOM LINE, TEST
ALL THINGS AGAINST
SCRIPTURE.
1 THESSALONIANS 5 TELLS US
TO TEST ALL THINGS.
Gordon: RON'S BOOK,
"THE TRUTH BEHIND GHOSTS,
MEDIUMS, AND PSYC PSYCHIC
PHENOMENONS."
THANK YOU FOREBEING HERE.
THANK YOU.
MY PLEASURE.
AND THEY TESTED
EVERYTHING, AND FIND OUT
WHAT FINALLY GAVE THEM THEIR
SIGHT.
SIGHT, RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Gordon: IN A REMOTE
PART OF INDIA, A MOTHER AND
HER DAUGHTER BOTH SUFFERED
FROM BLINDING CATARACTS.
THEY HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF
A MEDICAL DOCTOR UNTIL A
PASTOR TOLD THEM ABOUT
"OPERATION BLESSING."
Terry: THE MOUNTAINS OF
NORTHWEST INDIA ARE
MAJESTIC, BUT CAMALA AND HER
10-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WERE
UNABLE TO SEE THEM.
THEY WERE BOTH BORN WITH
SEVERE CATARACTS.
WHEN PEOPLE CALLED ME
BLIND, I WOULD GET OFFENDED
AND BE VERY ANGRY, BUT I
FELT EVEN SADDER WHEN MY
DAUGHTER WAS BORN BLIND.
I CAN SEE THINGS THAT ARE
VERY CLOSE TO ME, BUT I
CAN'T SEE ANYTHING ELSE.
Terry: MANJU'S FATHER,
HANSI, WAS VERY WORRIED
ABOUT HIS DAUGHTER'S
FUTURE.
I WANTED TO SEND MY
DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL, BUT
WHAT'S THE USE?
SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
READ, AND SHE COULD GET HURT
WHILE WALKING BACK AND FORTH
FROM SCHOOL.
Terry: THEIR FAMILY WAS
CUT OFF FROM THE OUTSIDE
WORLD.
THEY HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD OF
A MEDICAL DOCTOR.
ALL THEY KNEW WERE THERE
VILLAGE PRACTICES, A MIXTURE
OF HINDUISM AND BLACK
MAGIC.
THE WITCH DOCTORS WOULD
EXPECT A LOT OF THINGS FROM
US.
WE HAD TO GIVE THEM OUR
CHICKENS AND OUR FOOD FOR
THEIR RITUALS, BUT WE DIDN'T
SEE ANY POSITIVE
EXPERIENCE.
INTERPRETER
Terry: THE BITTER
EXPERIENCE LEFT HANSI LESS
HOPE OF EVERY GETTING HELP.
SO WHEN SOMEON A VILLAGE
PASTOR TOLD THEM "OPERATION
BLESSING" WANTED TO GIVE
THEM CATARACT SURGERY.
I WAS AFRAID THEY WOULD
BE WORSE.
Terry: BUT THEY DECIDED
TO GET THE SURGERY.
CAMALA'S CATARACTS WERE
DEEPLY ROOTED.
AFTER THE BANDAGES WERE
REMOVED, IT WAS CLEAR THAT
CAMALA'S SURGERY WAS A
SUCCESS.
THE FIRST THING SHE WANTED
TO DO WAS SEE HER DAUGHTER.
AS MANJU SLOWLY WOKE UP AND
OPENED HER EYES, CAMALA KNEW
SHE EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO
BE OKAY.
I WAS OVERJOYED WITH
TEARS, ESPECIALLY WHEN I SAW
MY CHILDREN.
NOW MY DAUGHTER CAN GO TO
SCHOOL.
I CAN ALREADY READ A
LITTLE BIT.
AND I CAN DRAW WATER FROM
THE WELL AND DO ALL OF THE
OTHER CHORES.
I CAN BUY AND COOK US
FOOD.
I CAN VISIT MY RELATIVES
WITHOUT ANYONE'S HELP.
I CAN DO EVERYTHING MYSELF.
I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
PAYING FOR THE SURGERIES.
YOU DIDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING
FROM US, LIKE THE WITCH
DOCTORS.
PEOPLE ARE AMAZED BY THIS
MIRACLE AND YOUR KINDNESS.
IT IS REALLY A TIME OF GREAT
HAPPINESS.
Gordon: THANK YOU IF
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UP NEXT, A FAMILY'S DREAM
HOUSE QUICKLY TURNED INTO A
LIVING NIGHTMARE.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS
ONE.
Gordon: WHEN DEAN AND
JENNIFER MULL MOVED INTO
THEIR NEW HOME, THEY WERE
TOLD THE PREVIOUS TENANTS
LEFT BECAUSE OF THE HOUSE.
THE MULLS COULDN'T
UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT SOON
THEY FOUND OUT.
AT FIRST, EVERYTHING WAS
NORMAL.
THE HOUSE APPEARED NORMAL.
THERE REALLY WAS NOTHING
UNUSUAL.
Reporter: 521 WAS THE
NEW HOME OF THE MULL
FAMILY.
DEAN AND JENNIFER MOVED
THEIR NINE CHILDREN ACROSS
THE STATE OF OREGON TO
PASTOR A CHURCH.
BUT AS TIME WENT ON, OUR
CHILDREN STARTED COMING TO
ME, ASKING WHAT I WANTED.
THEY ASKED ME, WHY DID YOU
CALL ME, MOM?
WHY DO YOU KEEP CALLING MY
NAME?
AND IT WOULDN'T BE ME THAT
CALLED THEM TO ME.
WE WERE TOLD THERE WAS
STUFF.
LIKE, MOM ASKED US FOR ICE
WATER, AND WE WENT AND GAVE
HER ICE WATER, AND SHE SAID
THANK YOU, BUT SHE DIDN'T
ASK FOR IT.
Reporter: DEAN TRIED TO
PROTECT HIS FAMILY FROM WHAT
HE THOUGHT WAS A PHYSICAL
BEING.
AS TIME WENT ON, I WOULD
BE LAYING IN BED, AND I
WOULD HEAR WHAT SOUNDED LIKE
SOMEBODY COMING UP THE STEPS
FROM THE BASEMENT, WHEN WE
DIDN'T HAVE ANYBODY
DOWNSTAIRS.
AND I WAS CONCERNED, FIRST
OF ALL, WE MIGHT HAVE HAD AN
INTRUDER IN THE HOUSE.
I'D JUMP OUT OF BED AND GO
GRAB SOMETHING AND OPEN UP
THE DOOR OF THE BASEMENT AND
THERE WOULDN'T BE ANYBODY
THERE.
Reporter: 14-YEAR-OLD
CHARLES FELT LIKE HE WAS
BEING WATCHED WHEN HE WENT
DOWN TO THE BASEMENT.
I WAS PUTTING A BOX OF
CHRISTMAS STUFF INSIDE
THERE, AND THEN THE DOOR
SLAMMED, AND I WAS TRYING TO
GET OUT.
I COULDN'T GET OUT.
IT WAS SHUT.
IT WOULDN'T OPEN.
IT FELT LIKE IT WAS LOCKED.
AT THAT POINT, I KNEW --
I KNEW IT WAS A DEMON
PRESENCE IN OUR HOUSE.
NONE OF OUR KIDS WOULD GO
DOWNSTAIRS WITHOUT HAVING
THE UPSTAIRS OPEN, AND YOU
HAD TO STAND THERE AT THAT
DOORWAY AND WATCH FOR THEM
AND WAIT SO THAT THEY COULD
SHOUT IF THEY NEEDED YOU TO
COME BACK UPSTAIRS.
THEY WOULD SLEEP IN OUR
ROOM, ACTUALLY ON OUR FLOOR
AT ONE POINT, OR ON THE
LIVING ROOM FLOOR.
THEY WOULDN'T EVEN GO INTO
BEDROOMS AND SLEEP.
THEY WANTED TO BE THAT CLOSE
TO MOM AND DAD.
Reporter: EVENTUALLY
JENNIFER COULDN'T SLEEP AT
NIGHT, EITHER.
I WOULD BE ASLEEP, AND
USUALLY THERE WOULD JUST BE
A FLASH OF LIGHT THAT WOULD
FLASH INTO MY FACE, AND THAT
WOULD WAKE ME UP.
AND THERE WOULD BE
SOMEBODY'S FACE IN MY FACE
OR SOMEBODY AT THE FOOT OF
THE BED OR SOMEBODY IN THE
HALL THAT I COULD SEE.
OR MUSIC, JUST STRANGE MUSIC
THAT WOULD PLAY IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.
Reporter: DEAN AND
JENNIFER FASTED AND PRAYED
OVER THE SUPER NATURAL
ACTIVITY OVER THEIR HOME FOR
ALMOST A YEAR, WHEN JENNIFER
HIT HER BREAKING POINT.
I WAS WATCHING "THE 700
CLUB," AND I PUT IT ON MOST
DAYS AS I CLEAN MY ROOM, AND
THAT'S WHEN PAT ROBERTSON
HAD A WORD OF KNOWLEDGE
ABOUT IT.
Pat: THERE IS SOMEBODY
BEING TOMORROW NIGHTED BY
DEMONIC IMAGES.
YOU CAN'T SLEEP.
YOU'RE SEEING SORT OF
HALLUCINATIONS, AND YOU
CAN'T GET FREE, AND YOU
LITERALLY FEEL YOU'RE GOING
OUT OF YOUR MIND.
IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE
BIND THAT SPIRIT OF TORMENT
AND WE CAST IT FORTH IN
JESUS' NAME.
BE FREE FROM THIS MOMENT
ON.
I CLAIMED THAT AT THAT
POINT FOR OUR FAMILY.
AND IT LEFT THAT DAY.
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE A TEMPER
TANTRUM IT HAD ON ITS WAY
OUT.
WHERE IT SWUNG ALL OF THE
BOOKS ON THE BOOKCASES, AND
IT'S ALL GONE.
DEFINITELY A HOUSE SET
FREE.
WHEN I CAME HOME,
EVERYBODY WAS MORE RELAXED.
THE CHILDREN WERE MORE
PLAYFUL.
JUST EVERYTHING IN THE HOUSE
FELT SO MUCH BETTER, AND
JUST THAT TENSION HAS BEEN
RELEASED.
IT REITERATES OVER AND
OVER AGAIN THE POWER OF OUR
GOD COMPARED TO SATAN.
REGARDLESS OF ANYTHING THAT
HE TRIES OR ANYTHING THAT HE
DOES, SATAN IS DEFINITELY
SUBJECT TO OUR GOD.
GREATER IS IN ME THAN HE
THAT IS IN THE WORLD.
ABSOLUTELY A TRUE
STATEMENT.
IT'S ABSOLUTELY TRUE.
Gordon: IT IS TRUE.
THE AMAZING TRUTH THAT WE
ALL HAVE AS BELIEVERS IS WE
HAVE AUTHORITY.
AND WE HAVE AUTHORITY OVER
ALL OF THE WORKS OF THE
ENEMY.
WE CAN TAKE AUTHORITY OVER
IT.
THAT IS GIVEN TO US AS
BELIEVERS IN JESUS CHRIST.
AS HE WAS IN THE WORLD, SO
ARE WE.
AND JESUS WOULD CAST OUT
DEMONS.
HE DID IT REPEATEDLY.
IN ALL FOUR OF THE GOSPELS,
YOU HAVE THE ACCOUNTS OF HIM
CASTING OUT DEMONS.
SO TAKE THE AUTHORITY THAT
YOU HAVE AS A BELIEVER.
IF THERE ARE THINGS THAT
YOU'RE GOING, I DON'T
UNDERSTAND THIS.
YOU DON'T NEED TO UNDERSTAND
THAT.
TAKE AUTHORITY OVER IT, AND
TELL IT TO LEAVE, AND
COMMAND IT TO DO THAT IN
JESUS' NAME.
THEY WILL.
THEY DON'T HAVE AN OPTION
HERE.
THEY HAVE TO RESPOND TO YOUR
AUTHORITY.
WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF
QUESTIONS ON THE
PARANORMAL.
LET'S GO OVER TO OUR
CHATROOM.
JOSEPH?
WE HAVE CATHY, AND SHE IS
ASKING, "HOW DOES SOME
ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE FIT
INTO ALL OF THIS OCCULT
STUFF?"
Gordon: SOMETIMES IT
CAN, AND SOMETIMES IT
CAN'T.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SORT OF
HINDU SIDE OF THINGS,
ARUVEYDA, THERE ARE THINGS
THAT INVOLVE SAND SCRIPTS
THAT ARE TRYING TO CALL ON
HINDU GODS.
IF THAT'S INVOLVED IN IT,
THEN ABSOLUTELY YOU'RE
ENGAGING IN IDOLATRY.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY
HEALING FROM IT.
AT THE SAME TIME, THERE ARE
THINGS THAT ARE SORT OF
NATURAL IN THE ENVIRONMENT,
THAT ARE HEALTHFUL.
LOOK AT SOMETHING AS BASIC
ASSA AS ASPIRIN, WELL, THAT
ORIGINALLY CAME FROM WILLOW
BARK.
THERE ARE WAYS THAT
MEDICINES ARE FOUND IN
NATURE.
AND YOU IF YOU RESEARCH THE
HISTORY OF THE AVERAGE
MEDICATION THAT IS ALREADY
IN YOUR MEDICINE CABINET,
YOU'LL FIND THERE WAS AN
ORGANIC COMPOUND AT THE
BEGINNING OF THAT.
SO SOMETIMES ALTERNATIVE
MEDICINE IS JUST TRYING TO
AWAKEN US THAT THERE ARE
NATURAL HEALING PROPERTIES
IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT
PLANTS.
AND THAT PART OF IT IS
CERTAINLY NOT PSYCHIC OR
PARANORMAL.
BUT ANYTHING THAT INVOLVES
MEDITATING ON OTHER GODS ARE
TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH
YOUR INNER GOD, THOSE KINDS
OF THINGS, AVOID.
MICHELLE HAS GOT THE NEXT
QUESTION.
SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE
CHATROOM WANT TO KNOW ABOUT
THIS QUESTION, GORDON, "DO
MEDIUM PSYCHICS BELIEVE THEY
CAN CONTROL THESE SPIRITS?"
Gordon: I THINK SOME
ACTUALLY DO.
IF YOU LOOK AT THAT, THEY
THINK THEY'RE IN CONTROL,
AND THE REALITY IS THEY'RE
NOT.
AND THEY'RE WALKING DOWN A
PATH THAT ULTIMATELY LEADS
TO POSSESSION.
AND SO THEY'RE -- IT'S SORT
OF THE OLD ADAGE FROM
ALCOHOLIC ANONYMOUS, YOU
START DRINKING, AND THEN THE
DRINK DRINKS YOU.
IT'S THE SAME THING, YOU
THINK YOU'RE IN CONTROL, AND
YOU'RE NOT.
ANYBODY THAT THINKS YOU CAN
DABBLE IN THIS AND COME AWAY
WITH NO CONSEQUENCES, YOU'RE
WRONG.
LET'S TAKE SOME PHONE
CALLS.
HERE IS LINDA FROM
DELAWARE.
HI, LINDA.
Caller: THANKS FOR
TAKING MY CALL.
Gordon: MY PLEASURE.
Caller: CAN YOU HEAR
ME?
Gordon: I CAN HEAR
YOU.
Caller: I'VE BEEN
DIAGNOSED WITH ATRIAL
FIBULATION.
I KNOW YOUR FATHER HAD
THAT.
I CONTACTED THE HOSPITAL
WHERE HE WENT, BUT HERE I'M
IN DELAWARE, AND I'M A
SINGLE GIRL.
SO, ANYWAY, I HAVE HAD IT
FOR SIX YEARS.
AND MY DOCTOR, WHO I'VE HAD
FOR FOUR YEARS, THIS DOCTOR
THAT KNOWS ABOUT MY A-FIB,
HE WAS TREATING ME WITH A
HEART RHYTHM PILL, BLOOD
PRESSURE PILL, WHICH I HAVE
LOW ANYWAY -- CAN'T FIGURE
THAT OUT.
ANYWAY, HE SAYS YOU'RE DOING
OKAY, AND I'M GETTING MORE
AND MORE AND MORE, AND SO A
MONTH AGO, I SAID, HOW ABOUT
IF I WEAR A HEART MONITOR
MACHINE.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
HOW BAD THESE ARE.
I'M 66 YEARS OLD, AND I SAID
MY POOR HEART CAN'T CONTINUE
LIKE THIS.
I WORE THE HEART MONITOR,
AND LO AND BEHOLD THEY
CALLED ME BEFORE MY TIME WAS
UP, AND THEY SAID YOU HAVE
TO BE ON THAT NEW BLOOD
THINNER CALLS PERDAXA.
AND I SAID NO, NO, I'M
SCARED TO DEATH TO BE ON
THAT.
AND HE SAID YOU HAVE TO BE
BECAUSE YOU'RE AT A HIGH
RISK FOR A STROKE.
Gordon: RIGHT NOW LET'S
JUT PRAJUST PRAY FOR YOU.
Caller: OKAY, THANK
YOU.
Gordon: LORD, WE SPEAK
PEACE TO LINDA'S HEART --
Caller: JESUS, HEAL
ME.
Gordon: AND WE LIFT HER
TO YOUR THRONE OF GRACE.
WE COME BOLDLY AND WE ASK
FOR LINDA'S HEART.
WE ASK FOR HER ACID REFLUX
AS WELL.
WE ASK FOR EVERYTHING
CONCERNING HER HEALTH, AND
WE JUST SPEAK PEACE TO HER
NOW.
AND LET THIS ARRHYTHMIA BE
STILLED NOW IN JESUS' NAME.
AND ALL OF THE ELECTRICAL
SIGNALS TO THE HEART BE
NORMAL AND BE HEALED NOW.
WE SPEAK TO ALL OF HER
VALVES, THAT THEY WOULD BE
NORMAL.
AND NO FLUTTERING AND NO
A-FIB, AND EVERYTHING BE
HEALED.
NOW.
Caller: HELP ME, LORD.
Gordon: AND WE JUST
BREAK OFF OF HER ANY FEAR,
ANY FEAR OF STROKE, ANY FEAR
OF BLOOD LOSS --
Caller: SURGERY.
Gordon: AND ANY FEAR OF
SURGERY.
WE JUST BREAK IT OFF OF HER
RIGHT NOW.
AND WE SPEAK OVER HER THE
PEACE THAT SURPASSES ALL
UNDERSTANDING.
SO, LORD, WE JUST CAST ALL
OF THESE CARES UPON YOU.
AND NO MORE ANXIETY, BUT
JUST RIGHTEOUSNESS, PEACE,
AND JOY IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.
BE WITH HER NOW, FOR WE ASK
IT IN JESUS' NAME.
AMEN.
Caller: AMEN.
OH, GORDON, I CAN'T WAIT TO
SEE THIS TOMORROW MORNING.
THE GIRL TOLD ME IT WOULD BE
ON TOMORROW.
Gordon: IT WILL BE ON
TOMORROW.
Caller: I GET TO SEE
YOU GUYS 11 A.M. HERE AND
3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON.
I JUMP FROM WHEREVER I AM
JUST TO COME HOME TO SEE IT
ALL OVER AGAIN.
Gordon: THIS ONE WILL
BE ON AT 9:30 IN THE MORNING
AT ABC FAMILY.
Caller: AND THEN I GET
YOU ON A 3:00 IN THE
AFTERNOON.
THANK YOU.
Gordon: THANK YOU FOR
CALLING.
Caller: ALL OF THE
LITERATURE YOU SEND ME, I'M
GOING TO MAKE RESERVATIONS
TO COME DOWN THERE, BUT I
WISH YOU HAD A SINGLES'
GROUP AND THEY COULD MEET
AND COME INTO THE SHOW.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU WOULD
DO THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE
WONDERFUL FOR US SINGLE
LADIES.
Gordon: I DON'T KNOW
ABOUT -- MICHELLE IS
LAUGHING AT ME OVER HERE.
MAYBE WE CAN GET A SINGLES'
GROUP GOING ON AND MICHELLE
CAN HEAD IT UP.
IF YOU WANT TO STAY AT A
NICE HOTEL, THE FOUNDS' INN,
RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE
STUDIO.
Caller: IT WOULD BE SO
NICE.
THANK YOU, GORDON.
Gordon: GOD BLESS YOU.
Caller: GOD BLESS YOU,
TOO.
TELL YOUR DADDY I SAID HI.
Gordon: WILL DO.
THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE
FOR THIS PROGRAM.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM PSALM 72: "BLESS
HIS GLORIOUS NAME FOREVER.
LET THE WHOLE EARTH BE
FILLED WITH HIS GLORY."
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.
