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Christian World News: November 2, 2012

On Christian World News, Nov. 2: Christians flee Egypt as the Muslim Brotherhood gains influence; Operation Blessing helping victims of Hurricane Sandy; The first Mormon president? Does faith matter?; and more. Read Transcript

Today on Christian World News –

The second exodus from Egypt. This time it's
Christians fleeing the country. How Islamic

fundamentalism is changing the church.

Plus –

A super storm socks the United States. Hurricane
Sandy leaves millions without power. Some

are desperate for food and water.

And –

Countdown to the U.S. presidential election.
If Mitt Romney wins the White House, the Mormon

church will also be sharing the spotlight.

Egypt's Christian exodus. Hello, everyone,
I'm George Thomas.

And I'm Wendy Griffith.

Thousands of Christians are fleeing Egypt
as the Muslim Brotherhood gains influence

in that country.

As this wave of unprecedented emigration grows,
Gary Lane reports that the Egyptian church

may be on the verge of an awakening.

This is the scene in today's Egypt for those
disagreeing with the new leadership.

Pro-Muslim Brotherhood forces tear down a
stage built by those opposing President Mohammed


Egypt is becoming more polarized as Islamists
try to impose their beliefs on the society.

You have here an emboldened local Islamists,
emboldened with the idea that one of their

brethren is in power to basically implement
what they see as the rightful law, or God's

message on the ground without even the need
of a government.

The creeping Islamization has Egypt's minority
Coptic Christian community nervous. Many have

already left the country and more are expected
to follow.

It's an exodus of biblical proportions just
over the last twelve months.

Lord David Alton is with the human rights
group, Jubilee Campaign.

There have been a lot of killings, churches
have been bombed, Christian women have been

raped, people's properties have been confiscated,
all sorts of things have taken place.

It's one of the reasons why a hundred thousand
Coptic Christians have fled the country.

We don't actually know the exact numbers.
In my local church here in Fairfax we've definitely

seen a serious wave of Coptic immigration
from Egypt since the revolution. And that's

in one church in the U.S.

Armenian Pastor Robert Zareh Tashijan says
some of his Cairo church members fled for

the United States. That's not just Christians
who are leaving....

I have a lot of Islam friends, they leave
the country and go. They don't feel safe with

the coming of the Muslim Brotherhood.

Many Egyptians remain because they cannot
afford to go anywhere else. Tadros is concerned

about a Christian brain and wealth drain.

In the sense of the better educated, the more
well off, the people that are the job creators,

the ones that give the higher donations to
the church as an institution, those guys will

be the ones that will be leaving.

And that may mean less opportunity and help
for needy Egyptian Christians.

So, what can be done to halt the exodus? In
the final presidential debate, President Obama

said America expects the Egyptian government
to protect the rights of non-Muslims.

They have to make sure that they take responsibility
for protecting religious minorities. And we

have put significant pressure on them to make
sure they're doing that.

But Coptic leaders here in the United States
call Mr. Obama's support for Egyptian Christians

"empty words."

Lord Alton says American and western aid to
Egypt should be stopped unless the government

upholds religious liberties.

We need to be insisting that this becomes
a key question for western governments. So

far, the evidence is not very encouraging.

Still, many Christians likes these attending
services at Cairo's Cave Church say they'll

stay in Egypt.

Father Simon Ibrahim says his church members
are focused on God's promises.

He cares for us and will not forsake us. We
believe in God's plan for Egypt and will follow

it instead of any human plan.

And the rise of the Islamists and increased
persecution is actually bringing Egyptian

Christians closer together.

There's more unity than ever before. In all
the churches, they are doing a lot of prayer

nights, meetings, talking about the future,
giving hope for the people that God is in


Events like this one in the desert north of
Cairo attracted more than 50,000 Egyptian

Christians for four days of worship and prayer.

American Christians are very concerned about
their brothers and sisters in Christ here

in Egypt. What should they do?

We definitely need your prayers. The Lord
tells us to pray for one another. You pray

for us, and we will pray for you.

You can look at Coptic history with a sense
of sadness at a continuous decline, but you

can also look at it with the sense of how
the hand of God has protected his people and

made them survive through everything that
they have been through.

Despite the mass exodus, many Coptic Christians
believe the Egyptian church is growing stronger

and will persevere, no matter what the future
may bring.

Gary Lane, CBN News, Cairo.

And joining us now with more is Pastor Daniel
Scot. He was the first Christian accused of

violating the blasphemy law in Pakistan. And
five years ago a high court found him not

guilty of vilifying Islam in Melbourne, Australia.

Great to have you back on the broadcast. You
know quite a big deal about Islam and Sharia

law. We're looking at the situation today
in Egypt. What's the likelihood that the Islamists

there will force or impose Islamic Sharia
law upon the country?

It's like because they are in the majority,
they can impose Islamic law. Islamic law stems

from seventh century Arabia. That means they
will go back to seventh century Arabia and

they will treat non-Muslims as Mohammed and
his other followers dealt with the Jews and

Christians of that era.

What are the consequences? When you say they
will deal with Christians and non-Muslims,

what does that mean?

It says in Koran, (name of book) 9, verse
29, to fight with them and ??? money from

them and humiliate them. So that's humiliation,
??? money. And in (name of book) 98, verse

6, it says al-a-koo-tobb (phonetic), that
means people of the book are shall-uh-brea

(phonetic). That means are the most vicared
(?) of all the creatures, all the animals.

So that means they will be treating Christians
like animals.

Worse than second class citizens.

Worse than second class citizens.

We look at countries like Saudi Arabia today.
There is an effort by the Saudis to use the

United Nations as the way to say, listen,
anybody who blasphemes, who says anything

against any religion there should be consequences.
Obviously, in their eyes they want to ban

anybody from saying anything bad against the
prophet Mohammed or to vilify Islam. How likely

are their efforts going to be in terms of
passing such laws?

It is actually like there are some countries
which are opposing it. Like Australia is strongly

opposing it because Australia has experienced
that those evil laws are not good for anybody.

But they are politically correct-minded people
who don't know anything about Islam. Like

even in the courtroom when I was defending
myself and telling what's in the Koran, I

was told three times by the barrister hired
by the Islamic Council of Victoria that I

should not read from Koran as I did. I may
be insulting Muslim people.

So they think reading of Koran, exposing the
teaching in Koran, that's insulting Muslim

people. So that means there will be total
ban of reading even Islamic books in public.

So it will be very…and I hope it will not

One of the things—we just have a few seconds
left here—one of the things that's on your

heart is to educate the American audience,
specifically young people in the schools,

about the impact that Islam is having. What
is your message to the American society about


My message to the young students is don't
listen to what your textbook says. That's

based on deception and lying. So don't buy
the lie. If you want to read something, read

[material] by those people who are critical,
who objectively tell the truth and that will

help them to know the truth; otherwise, it
will just be misleading and I don't know why

the propaganda in education here in America
to propagate Islam, just telling lies and


And you are obviously somebody who has personal,
firsthand experience on this issue dealing

with the face of radical Islam and Islamic
Sharia law. Daniel Scot, always a pleasure.

Great to have you back and welcome back to

Thank you and thank you for having me on this

You welcome.

God bless.

Another devastating attack against Christians
in Nigeria.

Seven people are dead following a church bombing
in the north. Police say a suicide bomber

ran an SUV filled with explosives into a Catholic
church during mass. At least a hundred others

were injured in the violence.

Sunday's bombing is the latest in a series
of attacks in Nigeria churches. No group has

claimed responsibility. The radical Islamist
group Boko Haram has attacked several Nigerian

churches this year, killing hundreds.

Nearly 100,000 South Sudanese gathered in
sweltering heat this week to hear Franklin

Graham deliver the Gospel message.

God loves you. He wants you to put your faith
and trust in his Son.

The two-night event was held in the capital
city of Juba. The "Hope for the New Nation

Festival" featured a 500-person choir which
sang for more than an hour. And then organizers

say 6,000 attendees responded to accept Jesus
as their Lord and Savior.

Up next –

The super storm that pummeled New York. Millions
in the city are out of power. Some are desperate

for food

and water.


welcome back to the show.

Super storm Sandy battered the U.S. east coast
this week with 90 miles per hour winds and

drenching rain. Hardest hit were New York
and New Jersey where millions are without

power or heat.

Even worse, many victims lack the basic food
and water they need to survive. Relief ministries

are beginning to arrive on the scene including
CBN's Operation Blessing.

But as Efrem Graham reports, a feeling of
frustration is settling over the city.

Hour-long traffic jams, mile-long lines of
people waiting for buses and gas, and still

hundreds without electricity, food or clean

In New York City, patience is wearing thin.

Where are the buses?!

Thousands of commuters wait in lines for buses
to take them into the city. Con Edison says

they hope to have power restored by the weekend
of November 10th. That's a whole ‘nother

week with no lights, heat or water.

Residents of this Lower Manhattan neighborhood
say they feel forgotten.

There's a sense where there's like they have
no value. They see that other areas are being

taken care of and they totally overlooked

Operation Blessing is partnering with several
local churches in those neighborhoods. The

ministry is bringing in badly needed food
and water to help the victims get through

the crisis. And looking to restore hope.

Operation Blessing's second truckload of food
just arrived on the Lower East Side of Manhattan.

We're here delivering food, diapers, hygiene
kits. Our mobile kitchen is enroute now. We'll

be serving hot meals tonight to the people
who need it most desperately.

A lot of people don't have electricity, don't
have heat or hot water and would definitely

need a good meal. That's why we're so excited
to see Operation Blessing here.

Staten Island was the deadliest zone in super
storm Sandy. Many residents are now homeless

and they say they're seeing no response to
the devastation in their city.

We're gonna die! We're gonna freeze! We got
90-year-old people!

In New Jersey, utilities say the power outages
could last until late November.

Efrem Graham, CBN News.

And joining us now is Jody Gettys of Operation

Jody, you are right there in Manhattan. How
serious is the situation still, these several

days now after Sandy?

The situation is dire. You look at the buildings,
everything looks fine because you don't see

destruction. But behind these skyrise buildings,
25 stories high, filled with thousands of

people who are without electricity, without
heat. They don't have water. They can't even

flush the toilets and get rid of their human
waste. And so people are…they're having

good attitudes but they're really struggling.

Now how are you able to get food and water
and heaters and blankets, how are you able

to do that?

Yeah, Operation Blessing always connects with
local pastors and churches, so we're working

with about seven other churches in the area.
We're set up in a block that has basically

30 skyscrapers and so we have a point of distribution
set up at a Catholic church with a priest.

We have groceries set out, volunteers bagging
groceries. We'll be giving them to the line

of people that is out there even right now
at one o'clock. And then we also have our

mobile kitchen. So we're feeding breakfast
and dinner so they can come out of these apartment

complexes and just get a hot meal.

Jody, how are people coping? Are they staying
calm or is desperation setting in?

You know, we're all holding our breath, honestly,
even the NYPD they've been great but, you

know, they said everybody's been peaceful,
they've been very surprised because they're

concerned about what is day five, six, seven
going to look like with people in these kind

of conditions.

But I'll tell you what, the residents of New
York have really rallied together. They're

having good attitudes. I just actually had
somebody knock on the RV door and it was a

mother with two small children. She said,
"Could I use some power because my kids are

having asthma attacks and need to use the

But, again, nobody's running around mad. But
I know that that could turn bad real quick.

Wow! Are you finding that these are times
where you're really able to minister to people


Absolutely! Just to be able to walk down the
street and say "God bless you," to stop and

pray with somebody or put our arm around them,
it just means everything. Of course we're

meeting physical needs but God opens the door
to meet spiritual needs.

And, you know, the greatest reward, the greatest
weapon that we have is to provide hope and

to provide love and encouragement to let them
know they're not alone and they're not forgotten.

Absolutely. Jody Gettys, we're so proud of
what you all are doing there. Our prayers

are with you and the people of New York and
New Jersey and all up and down the east coast.

Thanks so much for joining us.

Thank you, Wendy.

Up next –

The U.S. presidential election just a few
days away. Will America have its first Mormon

president and what will that mean for the
Mormon church?

Welcome back.

Barack Obama made history in 2008 when he
became the first African American to be elected

president. Now Mitt Romney could also make
history in 2012.

And he could become the first Mormon to win
the White House. David Brody explores that

possibility in this report from Salt Lake

It's a faith not many understand. Some call
it a cult, a subject I brought up with him

when he was still governor of Massachusetts.

Some folks have said, you know, Mormons are
part of a cult. Does that bother you?

Well, there's very little that bothers me
and that's in part because when people make

references that I disagree with I generally
conclude that they just don't have all the

facts, and if they had all the facts they'd
feel differently.

"And it came to pass that as they went they
were cleansed."

At this Mormon sacrament service near Salt
Lake City, we met the Smoot family and all

of their children. They're tired of being
viewed differently by others but know that

it comes with the territory.

You know, polygamy is always the first thing
that's thrown out. It's been 122 years. For

me, that's two and a half lifetimes ago.

So would Romney's faith pose a problem? Eighteen
percent of Americans say they would not vote

for a well-qualified presidential candidate
who happened to be a Mormon.

But another poll shows that a majority of
voters who are aware of his faith, say it

doesn't present a problem at all.

LDS church elder Richard Hinckley gave us
a tour inside some of the buildings around

Temple Square, their main headquarters.

We've been under the limelight since our beginnings,
David. And this is just perhaps a little more

intense in today's Internet age and media
age. But sure, we love to tell our story.

We have a great story to tell and we love
every opportunity we can get to tell it.

There are generally two areas of concern.
First: secrecy. Only certain Mormons under

specific circumstances are allowed into the
temples for ritual ceremonies.

I think it's the sacred nature of what goes
on in the temples. The sacred covenants we

make, and so forth. We don't invite the world,
for example, to witness a wedding ceremony.

The other issue is doctrine, especially among
Christians who believe the Bible is the inerrant

Word of God. Mormons add the Book of Mormon
as more revelation from God. They also don't

believe in the traditional definition of heaven
and hell.

Those two designations, heaven and hell, aren't
large enough for us to be honest with you,


Mormons also don't believe in the Trinity,
how God is three beings all in one.

The Trinity?

The Trinity. Yes, we don't accept that.

Yet Mormons call themselves Christians, which
raises eyebrows, especially within evangelical


But any controversy over a Mormon president
may not center on theology as much as whether

Romney would put loyalty to the Mormon church
ahead of anything else.

More than 50 years ago, John F. Kennedy faced
a similar problem as a Catholic. He gave a

speech emphasizing that his loyalty to America
would come first.

Mitt Romney did that same thing back in 2008.

No authorities of my church, or of any other
church for that matter, will ever exert influence

on presidential decisions.

Romney set a precedent as governor of Massachusetts.
He allowed alcohol sales on Sunday even though

the Mormon church forbids alcohol. It's a
point he made to a skeptical radio show host

in a moment caught on camera during the 2008

My church says I can't drink alcohol, right?
That's what my church says. "Mitt, you can't

drink alcohol." Okay, should I say that as
governor of Massachusetts we're stopping alcohol

sales? If you're not going to separate your
religion, you better make everybody not drink

alcohol. No, my religion is for me and how
I live my life.

This church, in our belief, and I believe
this so very, very strongly, is destined to

grow, move forward and fill the entire earth,
with or without the Mitt Romneys.

For the Mormon church, they've been pro-active
in attempting to let folks know they are regular

people, like their "I'm a Mormon Campaign."

I'm a father, husband and a musician. My name
is Alex Borgeux and I am a Mormon.

And when many people picture a Mormon they
see successful, clean cut, upstanding citizens

who are also generous. Why is that exactly?

Look no further than Welfare Square in Salt
Lake City where the church gives out homegrown

products to those in need. This is paid for
on the first Sunday of every month, when each

Mormon family donates the amount it would
cost them to eat two meals. It's the principle

of self-sacrifice.

It's sacrifice where individuals give up something
recognizing that they're helping their fellow…in

this case members of the church.

This gospel is not a Sunday-only gospel. It's
an everyday gospel for us. And if it doesn't

infuse one's life, what good is it?

That culture revolves around the church. It's
the center of the Mormon's world and it's

where young children are taught early on to
be leaders in the church. That principle may

indeed lead to success later in life.

There are few places that you can go where
a young 12-year-old boy can be a president

of a Quorum, and he can stand up and he stands
up and conducts the meeting, and he learns

how to use an agenda and how to plan an activity.
And they're kind of taught all the way through.

The Mormon way has been a successful way for
many within the faith. Mitt Romney could be

their biggest success story yet.

David Brody, CBN News, in Salt Lake City,

And finally this week –

In the Central American country of Honduras,
eight thousand children and parents gathered

in a stadium to pray earnestly for their country.

The children came from many different churches
to intercede for the future of their nation,

now suffering an epidemic of drug trafficking
and violence.

Underlining the depth of the crisis, the president
of Honduras, Porfirio Lobo, attended this

year's event.

Every year since 1999, the prayers of the
children reach the nation through a network

of radio and TV stations. And according to
Ray Santos, these intercessors, seven to 12

years old, have prevented major natural and
political disasters.

Then a political crisis arrived. And they
prayed for the crisis against social problems

in Honduras, and that God would give us a
strong leader, and that those that wanted

to act against the will of God, that God would
remove them. When the political crisis arrived,

God delivered us.

Pastors and teachers train child intercessors
through weekly Bible studies and prayer before

they participate in prayer events.

And I believe it. I believe, you know, "the
prayers of the righteous availeth much." And

you bring that many children together and
their precious prayers, I'm sure that they

have done…

That's right. And prayer can change the destiny
of one's life as well as the destiny of a



Well, folks, that's all for this week's edition
of Christian World News. I hope you have been…what's

the word I'm looking for…encouraged and
blessed by our stories.

That's good. Until next week, good-bye and
God bless you.


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