700 Club 2012 Election Special, hosted by Pat Robertson, with Lee Webb and special guest analysts Fred Barnes, John Fund, Jay Sekulow, Ralph Reed and others. Includes live coverage from both Obama and Romney election headquarters with CBN News ...
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WELCOME, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, TO THIS SPECIAL
ELECTION NIGHT EDITION OF THE
700 CLUB.
A STAGGERING $2 BILLION ON
ADVERTISING BY CANDIDATES IN
THIS RACE.
UNPRECEDENTED AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S ALL
SAID AND DONE, THE SITUATION IN
THE HOUSE STAYS THE SAME.
THE REPUBLICANS STAY IN CHARGE.
THE REPUBLICANS HAVE LOST AN
OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THE SENATESEATS THAT SEEMED TO BE UP FOR
GRABS, GONE OUT OF THEIR REACH
AND THEY LOST SEVERAL SEATS.
ONE IN INDIANA THEY HAD IS
LOST, THE SEAT OF SNOW.
THAT'S GONE TO THE DEMOCRATS.
YOU LOOK AT OTHER INSTANCES
THAT WERE IN THEIR GRASP, TODD
AKIN IN MISSOURI WAS BARELY
BEATEN BY CLAIRE MCCASKILL.
THE PRESIDENCY IS STILL UP --
THEY CALLED NORTH CAROLINA FORROMNEY.
WHAT'S LEFT?
WELL, YOU'VE GOT THE DEMOCRATS,
OBAMA HAS WON PENNSYLVANIA, NEW
HAMPSHIRE, WISCONSIN ANDMICHIGAN.
OHIO, VIRGINIA, AND FLORIDA ARE
STILL TOO CLOSE TO CALL.
OH, WE MAY HAVE TO GO INTO A
RECOUNT IN FLORIDA.
IT IS SO CLOSE.
WE HAVE SOME TERRIFIC PEOPLE
FOR YOU TONIGHT THAT ARE GOING
TO BE SHARING THEIR THOUGHTS AS
TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
BARNES IS GOING TO BE GIVING US
HIS INSIGHT, THE WALL STREET
JOURNAL, HIS INSIGHTS.
WE HAVE DAVE RIGHT NOW.
LET'S GO TO OUR CHIEF POLITICAL
REPORTER.
AND, DAVE, CAN YOU MAKE ANY
SENSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING SO
FAR?
WELL, PAT, I'VE GOT TO TELL
YOU.
OVERALL THEY WERE HOPING FOR A
CAMPAIGN CELEBRATION HERETONIGHT, AND RIGHT NOW
EVERYBODY IS ON PINS AND
NEEDLES.
THIS HAS KIND OF TURNED INTO A
GLORIFIED COCKTAIL PARTY.
A LOT OF FOLKS IN BUSINESS
SUITS ARE HAVING SOME HORS
D'OEUVRES AND VERY, VERY
CONCERNED BECAUSE IN ESSENCE,
ROMNEY HAS TO RUN THE TABLEHERE.
YOU TALKED ABOUT IT, OHIO,
FLORIDA, VIRGINIA, COLORADO,
YOU CAN GO ON AND ON.
THERE IS SOME SERIOUS TENSIONIN THE AIR HERE.
AND, SO, WE SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
BUT, LOOK, I THINK THERE ARE A
LOT OF FOLKS ALREADY RUNNING
MITT ROMNEY'S POLITICAL
OBITUARY AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE
WE'RE AT THAT POINT YET, BUT I
CAN TELL YOU THIS.
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE NIGHT
WHEN I WAS TALKING TO THE
ROMNEY CAMPAIGN, THEY WERE ALL
EXCITED ABOUT HOW INDEPENDENTS
WERE BREAKING FOR ROMNEY AND
THE FACT THAT THEY WERE DOING
WELL IN THE DENVER SUBURBS.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT HAS
STARTED TO REVERSE TO A DEGREE,
NOT NECESSARILY WITH
INDEPENDENTS, BUT AROUND SOME
OF THE SUBURBAN AREAS, DENVER
AND OTHER PLACES.
SO, THERE HAS BEEN MORE OF AN
AWKWARD SILENCE FROM THE ROMNEY
CAMPAIGN HERE IN THE LAST HOUR
OR SO BECAUSE THEY ARE CLEARLY
CONCERNED AND NOT AS GIDDY AS
THEY WERE AT ABOUT 7 O'CLOCK
EASTERN OR SO WHEN THOSE
INITIAL NUMBERS WERE COMING IN.
IT IS APE WAIT AND SEE
SITUATION HERE.
I CAN TELL YOU WHEN THE FIRST
CHEER WE'VE SEEN IN ABOUT 2-1/2
HOURS HERE WAS WHEN THEY CALLED
IT FOR MITT ROMNEY IN NORTH
CAROLINA.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, PAT, IT IS
HORS D'OEUVRES AND SILENCE
HERE IN BOSTON.
ROMNEY PLAYED ROPE-A-DOPE AS
HE WAS BEING POUNDED BY OBAMA.
A CROOK, AN OUT SOURCER, A
PREDATOR, YOU NAME IT.
HE JUST TOOK IT.
HE WAS MARSHALING HIS RESOURCES.
THEY'VE COME BACK, BUT WAS IT
TOO LATE?
ALL THIS BUSINESS ABOUT WOMEN'S
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, THEY WERE
UNDER THE RADAR ON THAT ONE,
BUT THEY SEEM TO HAVE SCORED
THE WOMEN.
PAT, I THINK YOU HIT THE
NAIL ON THE HEAD.
I THINK MITT ROMNEY WAS DEFINED
BY THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN ALL THE
WAY BACK IN APRIL, MAY AND JUNE.
RIGHT THEN, PAT, THEY -- THEY
BEING THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN --
DECIDED TO DROP TENS OF
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN CAMPAIGN
ADS TO GO AFTER ROMNEY.
AND BASICALLY IDENTIFY HIM
DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGN SAID, YOU
KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO HOLD
OUR FIRE LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE
GOING TO WAIT FOR THE FALL.
GUESS WHAT, THE FALL CAME AND
OVERALL THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGN WAS
STILL OUTSPENT.
NOT WITH SUPER P-A-CS.
WE HAD THE SUPER P-A-CS.
ROMNEY OUTSPENT OBAMA.
CAMPAIGN TO CAMPAIGN, ROMNEY'S
CAMPAIGN WAS NEVER ABLE TO
RECOVER FROM THE PERSONA THAT
THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN WAS ABLE TO
DEFINE ROMNEY AS.
I THINK THAT'S BEEN A HUGE
PROBLEM AND HAS STUCK WITH HIMAND HE HASN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET
OUT OF THE RUT.
HE WAS FINISHED BY THE TIME
APRIL OR MAY ROLLED AROUND.
I MEAN, THEY WENT AFTER HIM
HARD AND HE NEVER RECOVERED.
SO, ROMNEY IS NOT OUT OF IT YET.
THERE IS STILL A GAME AND KARL
ROVE IS SAYING TONIGHT, WELL,
YOU JUST WATCH THE VOTES START
COMING IN IN OHIO.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY BE HEADING
FOR A RECOUNT IN FLORIDA IF
IT'S AS CLOSE AS IT LOOKS LIKE.
BUT, DAVID, WE APPRECIATE IT.
YOU KNOW, TELL THE PEOPLE UP
THERE NOT TO BE TOO DOWN HEART
ENED.
IT'S STILL MORE TO GO.
WE MAY NOT KNOW WHO THE WINNER
IS --
I'LL GRAB AN HORS D'OEUVRE.
GET A GOOD HORS D'OEUVRE.
I HOPE THEY'RE SERVING
SOMETHING GOOD.
>JOINING US NOW WITH MORE
FROM OUR WASHINGTON BUREAU IS
RALPH REID OF THE FAITH AND
FAVORITE COALITION.
RALPH, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO
TURNOUT ALL THE VOLTERS IN
OHIO, ALL THE BATTLE GROUNDSTATES.
WHAT HAPPENED?
OH, WE DID, PAT.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
YOU LOOK AT THE EXIT POLLS.
IT'S PRELIMINARY.
WE REALLY NEED TO WAIT UNTIL
THIS VOTE IS IN.
WE'RE DOING OUR OWN
POST-ELECTION SURVEY.I WILL RELEASE THOSE RESULTS IN
THE MORNING.
BUT JUST BASED ON WHAT LITTLE
WE HAVE IN FLORIDA, OHIO,
VIRGINIA, ALL THE STATES THAT
WILL DECIDE THE OUTCOME OF THIS
ELECTION, EVANGELICALS WERE A
LARGER SHARE OF THE ELECTORATE
THAN THEY'VE EVER BEEN.THEY TURNED OUT IN LARGER RAW
NUMBERS.
AND GET THIS, PAT, IN YOUR HOME
STATE OF VIRGINIA,
EVANGELICALS, AGAIN, ACCORDINGTO THE EARLY EXIT POLLS VOTED
79% FOR MITT ROMNEY.
THAT'S 1% MORE THAN THEY VOTED
FOR GEORGE W. BUSH IN 2004 WHO
WAS A FELLOW EVANGELICAL.
BUT, LOOK, PAT, YOU CAN'T HAVE
HISPANICS ALONG THE I-4
CORRIDOR WALK IN BY THE TENS OF
THOUSANDS IN OSEOLA COUNTY,
ORANGE COUNTY AND VOTE STRAIGHT
DEMOCRAT TICKETS.
TONIGHT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS
LOSING ORANGE BY 60,000, THE
OTHER BY 20,000.
THEY'RE LOSING HILLSBORO COUNTY
TONIGHT, PAT.
THIS IS A BELLWETHER COUNTY IN
FLORIDA BY 30,000 VOTES.
THAT'S NOT BECAUSE OF
EVANGELICALS.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY LOVE
HISPANICS, I LOVE LATINOS.
THEY SHARE THE SAME SOCIAL
VIEWS AS THE REPUBLICANS.WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE
REPUBLICANS THAT WANTS TO DRIVE
THOSE PEOPLE AWAY?
THEY'RE NOT REACHING OUT TO
THEM.
WELL, I THINK THE GOOD
NEWS/BAD NEWS FOR THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY IS THAT, FIRST
OF ALL, WHEN IT COMES TO
HISPANICS, THERE IS AN AWFUL
LOT OF SHARED COMMONALITY OFVALUES.
HISPANICS TEND TO BE DEEPLY
RELIGIOUS, EITHER FAITHFUL
CATHOLICS OR EVANGELICALS.
THEY'RE PRO FAMILY, THEY'RE PRO
MARRIAGE, THEY'RE VERYPATRIOTIC.
THEY SERVE IN THE MILITARY IN
LARGER NUMBERS.
THEY'RE VERY ENTREPRENEURIAL.
BUT IN RECENT YEARS, PAT, THE
ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION, SECURING
THE BORDER, WHAT TO DO WITH
THOSE WHO ARE HERE CURRENTLY
ILLEGALLY HAS VEXED THIS PARTY.
AND IF BARACK OBAMA WINS
TONIGHT -- AND YOU CORRECTLY
POINTED OUT IT'S WAY TOO EARLY
TO CALL THIS ELECTION -- I
AGREE WITH CARL, BY THE WAY.
I THINK ROMNEY HAS A VERY GOOD
SHOT IN OHIO.
I THINK HE'S GOT A VERY GOOD
SHOT IN VIRGINIA AND IN FLORIDA.
IF HE WERE TO WIN ALL THREE OF
THOSE, HE JUST NEEDS ONE MORE.
BUT AS RECENTLY AS 2004, THE
REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR
PRESIDENT WON 44% OF THE
HISPANIC VOTE.
TONIGHT MITT ROMNEY'S WINNING
CLOSER IN THE 30% RANGE.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK IN AN
ELECTORATE THIS DIVERSE.
WELL, I MUST SAY I LIVED IN
VIRGINIA FOR A LONG TIME.I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE CROWDS
LIKE WE HAVE.
AS I UNDERSTAND WHEN THE POLLS
WERE IN THE PROCESS OF CLOSING,
THEY HAD 500,000 VOTERS IN
VIRGINIA THAT HADN'T BEEN
COUNTED.
THAT IS UNPRECEDENTED TURNOUT
IN VIRGINIA.
I THINK VIRGINIA IS GOING FOR
ROMNEY, FROM WHAT I SEE.
THAT'S JUST -- OF COURSE, MYOPINION.
I DON'T BELIEVE THIS STATE IS
GOING TO GO BLUE FOR OBAMA.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
WELL, AGAIN, I THINK
VIRGINIA WILL STAY WITH ROMNEY
AS IT IS.
IT'S TIGHTENING, BUT I THINK
ROMNEY WILL CARRY VIRGINIA.
I STILL BELIEVE -- I'M NOT IN
THE PREDICTION BUSINESS, BUT
BASED ON MY ANALYSIS
...
NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED EXCEPT
REPUBLICANS HAVE MISSED A BIG
OPPORTUNITY.
TEA PARTY IN INDIANA UPSET
#NAME?
TOUCH, THEY SAY.
SO, THEY TALK ABOUT THE PRIMARY
AND START MAKING STUPID
STATEMENTS.
WHAT IS IT WITH THESE PEOPLE?
WHY WON'T THEY RECOGNIZE THE
ELECTORATE BEGIN TO FEEL WITHIT?
THAT'S NOT WHO THEY ARE.
THEY'RE NOT PEOPLE -- THEY JUST
GO ALONG WITH THE TREND.
THEY WANT TO BUCK IT.
YOU KNOW WHAT THEY WANT, THEY
WANT SMALLER GOVERNMENT, LOWER
TAXES, LESS SPENDING, THEY WANT
WASHINGTON TO HAVE LESS OF AN
INFLUENCE ON AMERICAN LIFE,
ACTUALLY, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE
ONES THAT YOU AND I, RALPH, AND
ALMOST ALL CONSERVATIVES WANTAS WELL.
BUT THEY'RE JUST VERY
UNCOMPROMISING IN A POLITICAL
REALM WHERE YOU DO HAVE TOCOMPROMISE.
YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING, PAT,
THAT SURPRISED ME ABOUT THIS
ELECTION IS NOT THAT ROMNEY
DIDN'T TURNOUT A HUGE -- A HUGE
MASSIVE VOTE FOR HIMSELF.
AND RALPH IS RIGHT,
EVANGELICALS DID TURNOUT.
NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
WHAT SURPRISED ME IS THE
ABILITY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND
DEMOCRATS TO TURNOUT ALSO A
HUGE VOTE.
I MEAN, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING
SUCH A BIG VOTE IN VIRGINIA.
IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE THERE ARE
MORE REPUBLICANS VOTING.
THERE ARE A LOT MORE DEMOCRATS
VOTING AS WELL.
FRANKLY, I DIDN'T THINK
PRESIDENT OBAMA BEING SUCH AN
UNSUCCESSFUL PRESIDENT AND
DEMOCRAT SEEMING TO LACK
ENTHUSIASM THAT THEY'D BE ABLETO DO THIS.
BUT, IN FACT, THEY HAVE.
WHAT ROMNEY WAS SAYING IN
THAT, YOU KNOW, REMARK IN THAT
DINNER, IS IT TRUE THAT WELL
OVER 50% OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING
SOMETHING FROM THE FEDERALGOVERNMENT?
DO THEY REALLY LIKE BIG
GOVERNMENT AND THEY DON'T WANT
TO CHANGE IT?
WELL, YOU KNOW, AN AWFUL LOT
OF PEOPLE WHO DO LIKE WHAT THEY
GET FROM GOVERNMENT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I THINK THE
FIGURE HE USED WAS 47% OF
AMERICANS AND A LOT OF THOSE
ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MILITARY,
RETIREES, THEY'RE ON SOCIAL
SECURITY, MEDICARE AND THEY
ACTUALLY VOTE REPUBLICAN.
BUT IT DOES GIVE HIM A BASE,
DEMOCRATS HAVE A BASE OF PEOPLE
WHO WORK FOR GOVERNMENT OR
THEY'RE IN UNIONS OR THEY ARE
RECEIVING -- THEY ARE SOMEHOW
ON THE DOLE.
MAYBE 30% AND IT'S A BIG ONE TO
START WITH.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
IT WAS JUST THE NUMBER THAT
ROMNEY USED WAS WAY TOO BIG.
THAT WAS -- THERE IS A LARGE
CONSTITUENCY VOTE FOR OBAMA.
YOU KNOW, THEY MANAGED TO GET
YOUNG PEOPLE.
THEY DON'T HAVE GOOD JOB
OPPORTUNITIES.
THEY HAPPEN TO LIVE WITH THEIR
PARENTS, AS PAUL RYAN POINTED
OUT.
IF THEY CAME, VOTED
OVERWHELMING FOR OBAMA IN THE
EARLY EXIT POLLS I'VE SEEN.
INDEED.
AND THEY TURNED OUT IN LARGER
NUMBERS THAN WE EXPECTED.
OBVIOUSLY THEY TURNED OUT FOR
OBAMA IN 2008.I DON'T THINK THEY MATCH THAT.
BUT THEY TURNED OUT IN BIGGER
NUMBERS AND ARE A BIGGER SHARE
OF THE ELECTORATE IN 2012 THAN
I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.
ANOTHER TERM OF OBAMA, THEY'RE
GOING TO BE THE BIG LOSERS.
WHO IS GOING TO HAVE TO PAY FOR
OBAMA CARE?IT'S GOING TO BE YOUNG PEOPLE
WHO DON'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF
HEALTH CARE AND WOULD BE BETTER
OFF WITH JUST A CHEAP
CATASTROPHIC HEALTH INSURANCEPOLICY.
BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE
ABLE TO BUY ONE OF THOSE.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BUY
THE FULL THING.
MAINLY THEY'LL BE PAYING FOROTHERS.
BUT YOUNG PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO
UNDERSTAND THAT.
FRED, I APPRECIATE THIS.
WE'VE JUST GOTTEN BREAKING NEWS.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS IS
EXACTLY TRUE.
THEY CALL FLORIDA, YOU
REMEMBER, FOR MR. BUSH'S
OPPONENT AND THEY WERE WRONG.
THEY'RE SAYING OHIO FOR OBAMA
RIGHT NOW.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, HE'S WON
THE WHITE HOUSE.WHAT DO YOU THINK?
DO YOU WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT?
THAT'S THE LATEST COMING DOWNTHE WIRE.
WELL, THAT'S THE LIKELIEST
OUTCOME FROM THE SITUATION THATWE FACED IN THE LAST HOUR OR SO
IN THIS RACE.
LOOK, OBAMA TURNED OUT THIS
HUGE -- IT WASN'T BECAUSE HE'S
HAD SUCH A SUCCESSFUL FIRST
TERM.
AND WINNING, IF INDEED HE WINS.
HE HARDLY HAS A MANDATE FOR
ANYTHING.
CERTAINLY NOT THAT.
THIS IS A STATUS QUO ELECTION.
BUT HE TURNED OUT THIS HUGE
CHUNK OF VOTERS THAT I DIDN'T
THINK HE WAS GOING TO BE ABLE
TO A MASS.
AND YET HE DID.
IN OHIO, VIRGINIA, FLORIDA, AND
ALL THESE STATES.
I THOUGHT -- MY JUDGMENT WAS
THAT ROMNEY WAS GOING TO WIN
BECAUSE THERE WAS SUCH
ENTHUSIASM AMONG CONSERVATIVES
AND REPUBLICANS AND
EVANGELICALS AND THERE WOULD BE
THIS HUGE TURNOUT, MUCH LARGER,
ALL THE PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T VOTE
IN 2008 WHO DID IN 2004, THEY
WOULD TURNOUT THIS YEAR, AND
THEY DID.
BUT THEN ALL THESE DEMOCRATS
TURNED OUT AS WELL.
BUT THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN
UNENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT OBAMA,
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AN
ENTHUSIASTIC VOTER AND YOU'RE
AN UNENTHUSIASTIC VOTER, YOU
STILL -- IN BOTH CASES THEY
EACH GET ONE VOTE.
THERE ARE OVER 4,000
REGULATIONS IN THE HOPPER RIGHT
NOW BEING FROZEN ON BUSINESS.
WE'RE MOVING TOWARD EUROPEAN
STYLE SOCIALISM, WHAT NAME YOUGIVE IT.
DID YOU SEE THIS, OR IS THE --
SURE.
IS THE BOY WITH HIS FINGER
IN THE DIKE?THIS IS THE WAY -- LOOK,
REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BE
ABLE TO BLOCK OBAMA FROM
GAINING ANYTHING LEGISLATIVELY.
BUT IF HE'S REELECTED, OBAMA
CARE WILL BE INSTALLED.IT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AND THEN
IT WILL BE HARD TO EVER REMOVE,
MAYBE PARTS OF IT, BUT OVERALL
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NATIONAL
HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.
IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
HE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO GET
THINGS THROUGH CONGRESS, BUT,
LOOK, PAT, WHAT HE'S ALREADY
DONE JUST IN THE LAST YEAR JUST
BY EXECUTIVE ORDERS.
HE'S CHANGED LAWS.
HE CHANGED LABEL LAWS, HE
CHANGED IMMIGRATION LAW.
HE'S PUT PEOPLE IN OFFICE WITH
RECESS APPOINTMENTS EVEN WHEN
THE SENATE IS NOT IN RECESS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HE
CAN STILL DO THAT WILL BE
HARMFUL.
FRED, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THIS ISN'T OVER YET.
THE NETWORKS CALL SOMETHING.
THEY CALL FLORIDA.
JENNIFER IS FROM CHICAGO.
JENNIFER, I GUESS THE OBAMA
CAMPAIGN IS HAVING A MAJOR
PARTY AND POPPING CHAMPAGNE
CORKS NOW, RIGHT?
YES, IT'S QUITE INTERESTING,
PAT.
CNN AS YOU KNOW A IDENTIFY
MOMENTS AGO PROJECTED BARACK
OBAMA IS THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES.
THE CROWD HERE WENT WILD.
BUT IT'S NOT REALLY A CROWD YET.
THERE ARE CERTAINLY A LOT OF
PEOPLE HERE, BUT THE ROOM IS
NOT FULL.
PERHAPS HIS QUARTERS WERE
EXPECTING MUCH LATER NIGHT AS
ALL OF US WERE.
BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE
OBAMA CAMPAIGN, THEY THOUGHT IF
HE WAS TIED WITH MITT ROMNEY
GOING INTO ELECTION DAY, THEY
HAD FAITH IN THEIR GRASSROOTS
NETWORK.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WAS
IN A FIELD OFFICE HERE IN
CHICAGO LATE LAST NIGHT, AND
EVERY PERSON IN THAT BUILDING
WAS MAKING CALLS TO WISCONSINAND IOWA.
THEY WERE ARRANGING BUS TRIPS
TO GO OUT AND HELP PEOPLE GET
TO THE POLLS IN THOSE TWO
STATES TODAY.
THEY NEVER STOPPED WORKING TO
GET OUT THE VOTE.
AND THEY ALWAYS BELIEVE THAT
THAT IS WHAT WOULD MAKE A
DIFFERENCE IN THIS ELECTION.
JENNIFER, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE
LOSING OUR SATELLITE WINDOW L
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT
REPORT.
WE TURN NOW TO JOHN OF THE
NATIONAL BUREAU JOINING US FROMNEW YORK.
JOHN, WE WERE TALKING EARLIER,
DOES THIS REPRESENT, ASSUMING
OBAMA HAS WON OHIO, WE DON'T
KNOW, THAT COULD BE AN
ERRONEOUS CALL.
THE VOTES AREN'T TOTALLY
TABULATED, BUT THAT'S THE CALL
FROM THE NETWORKS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
IS THIS NATION GOING TO
CONTINUE IN THIS DIVIDED
SITUATION IN GRIDLOCK, A CLIFF,
WE HAVE THIS HUGE DEBT?
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO?
WELL, THE NETWORKS CAN BE
WRONG, BUT IN THIS CASE THEY'RE
PROBABLY NOT BECAUSE REMEMBER
THE FLORIDA IS A DEBACLE OF
2000 WHERE THEY CALLED FLORIDA
FOR GORE FIRST, THEN BUSH, THEN
WENT TO UNDECIDED.
SO, I THINK WE'RE PROBABLY
LOOKING AT BARACK OBAMA BEING
REELECTED.
VERY NARROWLY.
AND, IN FACT, DEPENDING ON HOW
MUCH OF A MAJORITY OBAMA HAS IN
CALIFORNIA, IT IS POSSIBLE MITT
ROMNEY WINS THE POPULAR VOTE
WHEN ALL VOTES ARE COUNTED.
THAT IS A TERRIBLE SITUATION.
IT BRINGS US BACK TO THE BUSH V
GORE SITUATION IN REVERSE IN
WHICH A PRESIDENT TAKES OFFICE
AND THERE IS A LARGE CHUNK OF
PEOPLE WHO QUESTION HIS
LEGITIMACY AND THERE MAY EVEN
BE STATES IN WHICH THERE ARE
ARGUMENTS OVER PROVISIONAL
VOTES, VOTER FRAUD, ALL KINDS
OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS, ALL KINDS
OF THINGS.
CERTAINLY THE STALEMATE OVER
THE FISCAL CLIFF IS NOT GOING
TO BE RESOLVED EASILY.
WE MAY HAVE TO BUILD A BRIDGE
FROM THE FISCAL CLIFF TO THE
NEXT CONGRESS SO THEY DEAL WITH
IT.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THERE WILL BE
ENOUGH IMPETUS TO GET IT DONEIN THE LAME DUCK SESSION.
BUT THE MARKETS WILL NEED
STABILITY.
ALREADY WE'RE SEEING THE DOLLAR
FALLING DRAMATICALLY IN ASIAN
MARKETS, WHICH IS A SIGN THAT
THEY VIEW AMERICA NOW UNCERTAIN
TIMES, UNCERTAIN ECONOMIC
POLICIES, UNCERTAIN FUTURE.
THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY.
SO, I THINK IT IS INCUMBENT TO
WHOEVER BECOMES PRESIDENT SO
WORK WITH CONGRESS IMMEDIATELY
TO TRY RECOGNIZE, WE HAVE TO
PRESENT ENOUGH OF A UNITED
FRONT TO THE REST OF THE WORLD
THAT WE DON'T TRIP INTO
RECESSION EARLY NEXT YEAR.
THE SENATE HASN'T PASSED A
BUDGET IN THREE MONTHS -- I
MEAN, THREE YEARS OR SO.
OBAMA HAS OFFERED SOME KIND OF
A MICKEY MOUSE FISCAL PROGRAM
THAT WAS SHUT DOWN ALMOST
UNANIMOUSLY BY THE CONGRESS.
WHAT HAVE THEY GOT?
HE DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY
PROGRAM.
HE'S BEEN ABLE TO WIN
REELECTION.WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE?
WELL, UNDERSTAND THAT
PRESIDENT OBAMA NEVER STOPPED
CAMPAIGNING.
AS FRED BARNES MENTIONED, HIS
CAMPAIGN FOR STRUCTURE REMAINEDON THE GROUND.
CHALLENGERS ALWAYS HAVE AN
UPHILL BATTLE AGAINST AN
INCUMBENT PRESIDENT.
THE NUMBERS OF INCUMBENT
PRESIDENTS WHO WIN FOLLOW THOSE
WHO HAVE BEEN DEFEATED.
THE ECONOMY IS BAD, BUT
REMEMBER, MORE PEOPLE STILL
BLAME THE BUSH ADMINISTRATIONFOR THE BAD ECONOMIC TIMES THAN
THEY DO THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
SO, I DON'T THINK THIS
REPRESENTS A SEA CHANGE OFAMERICAN LIFE.
OBAMA WAS ELECTED WITH 53%.
HE'S GOING TO GET 49% OR SO
THIS TIME.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A DRAMATIC
SHIFT IN AMERICAN POLITICS.
IT'S A VERY, VERY CHLOE ALEX.
AND IF OBAMA WINS, HE SIMPLY
OUTMUSCLED AND OUTCAMPAIGNEDMITT ROMNEY.
WELL, HE OUTMUSCLED HILLARY
CLINTON.
I THOUGHT SHE WAS GOING TO BE
THE WINNER LAST TIME.
SHE WON ALL THE BIG STATES.
IT WAS A SURPRISE.
IT'S AMAZING.
WELL, I STRONGLY SUSPECT
HILLARY CLINTON, DESPITE HER
PROTESTATIONS WILL BE RUNNING
FOR DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT IN
2016 REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS
TONIGHT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>WE HAVE JAY SEKULOW WITH US.
WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THEJUDGES.
THE CANDIDATES HAVE STAYED AWAY
FROM IT.
YOU'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE
ROMNEY CAMP.
DO THEY CITY THINK THEY HAD A
CHANCE?
THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD A
WINDOW THROUGH OHIO AND
COLORADO.
OF COURSE, ASSUMING VIRGINIA
AND FLORIDA CAME IN TO BE,
DOESN'T LOOK THAT WAY NOW.
THE NETWORKS ARE CALLING IT.
HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS LEGALLY.
FLORIDA FOR THERE TO BE AN
AUTOMATIC RECOUNT YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE TO BE WITHIN HALF A
POINT.
OHIO WITHIN .25.
AND IT DOESN'T -- RIGHT NOW WE
DON'T HAVE A DECISION IN
FLORIDA.
OHIO HAS BEEN CALLED.
SO, THAT WILL LOOK LIKE YOU'RE
GOING TO GET INTO THE RECOUNT
SITUATION.
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'RE GOING
TO GET INTO THE RECOUNTSITUATION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE MONDAY MORNING
QUARTERBACKING.
WHAT JOHN WAS TALKING B ALSO
WHAT FRED BARNES WAS MENTIONING
I THINK IS REALITY.
THERE'S BEEN A CULTURAL SHIFT.
IT'S NOT JUST THE SOCIAL
CONSERVATIVE ISSUES.WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHIC.
THIS IS SOMETHING, PAT, YOU'VE
BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A YEAR,
MORE THAN A YEAR.
AND THAT IS WE'VE GOT A
CHANGING DEMOGRAPHIC IN THIS
COUNTRY.
AND TO NOT REACH OUT TO THOSE
WITHIN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY
WHO SHARE OUR VALUES ON SO MANY
POINTS HAS PROBABLY BEEN A
FUNDAMENTAL ERROR.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T
SECURE THE BORDERS, BY THE WAY,
BUT IT DOES MEAN YOU HAVE TO
COME UP WITH COMPREHENSIVE
SOLUTIONS.
THE LESSON FOR THE REPUBLICANS,
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN THAT
HAS A LESSON TO IT.
THERE HAS TO BE A REASON FOR
PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND VOTE.
NUMBERS WERE HIGH.
A LOT OF PEOPLE CAME OUT TO
VOTE.
DON'T UNDER ESTIMATE, I THINK
THAT'S THE MESSAGE ALSO, THE
GROUND GAME OF THE DNC.
AND THE OBAMA TEAM.
DAVID AXELROD, YOU MAY DISAGREE
WITH HIM ON POLICIES, WE DO.THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS HE
HAD OBVIOUSLY A GOOD GROUND
NAME AND THEY GOT BIG NUMBERSOUT.
THE ISSUE OF JUDGES NEVER DID
REACH THE FRONT AND CENTER.
PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE OF THE
HEALTH DECISION ON OBAMA CARE.
THE SUPREME COURT, WAYS
THINKING TO MYSELF A FEW
MINUTES AGO, YOU'VE GOT TO TAKE
CASES NOW WHERE YOU WIN THEM IN
THE LOWER COURTS.
WE DID THIS IN THE '80S.
YOU REMEMBER THIS.
IF YOU WON IN THE COURT OF
APPEALS, IT DOESN'T MEAN CASES
WILL GO UP THERE.
I THINK WE HAVE ONE COMING UP
PRETTY SOON.
BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
JUDGES MATTER AND PRESIDENT
OBAMA COULD WELL SELECT TWO OR
THREE JUSTICES OF THE SUPREME
COURT.
AND FRANKLY THAT'S A SUPREME
COURT I'M GOING TO BE DEALING
WITH FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
SO THE REALITY IS I'M GOING TO
DEAL WITH IT THE BEST WAY I CAN.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF UNANIMOUS
DECISIONS IN THE PAST.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO SHOOT
FOR AGAIN.I THINK THIS IS A BIT OF A WAKE
UP CULL CALL HERE.
YOU'RE THE BEST OF THE
POLITICAL ANALYSIS.
YOU WON FOR PRESIDENT OF THEUNITED STATES.
YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S LIKE.
I THINK THE END OF THE DAY
HERE, THE REAL PROBLEM WAS I
THINK UNDERESTIMATING THE
OBAMA'S MACHINE HERE.
THEY GOT SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS.HE SPENT AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT
OF MONEY ON STAFF.
THEY HAD A HUGE STAFF AND THEY
MANNED THE PRECINCTS
TREMENDOUSLY, WAY, WAY BACK
WHEN.
INSTEAD OF SPENDING ALL THAT
MONEY, THEY SPENT ENORMOUS
AMOUNT OF MONEY ON MEDIA, BUT
THEY SPENT IT, FIRST OF ALL, ON
STAFF.
AND, SO --
BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
BOOTS ON THE GROUND, IT PAID
OFF.
I'M A GREAT ONE FOR GRASSROOTS.
THERE IS THE VICE PRESIDENT
COMING IN.
YOU SEE RIGHT NOW.
BUT, JAY, ONE LAST THING.
DO YOU THINK THERE ARE ENOUGH
PEOPLE WITH INTESTINAL
FORTITUDE IN THE SENATE TO
FILIBUSTER JUDGES?
YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEMOCRATS DID
IN CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES OPPOSED
BY GEORGE BUSH, WHAT DO YOUTHINK?
PAT, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A
CHOICE.
I THINK THE REPUBLICANS IN THE
SENATE HAVE TO SHOW THE KIND OF
BACKBONE THAT'S GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THEY DO THEIR JOB.
AND DOING THEIR JOB HERE IS NOT
JUST ROLLING OVER AND LETTING
EVERY NOMINEE COME FORWARD.
YOU LOOK AT THE NOMINATION
PROCESS.
LET'S LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THE
CANDIDATES WE NOMINATED AND
WELL QUALIFIED CANDIDATES AND
WE HAD TO FIGHT FOR TO CUT
DEALS WITH TO GET THROUGH
BECAUSE OF THE FILIBUSTER.
IT WORKS BOTH WAYS.
THEY CALL IT THE NUCLEAR OPTION.
MAYBE IT'S JUST?
TIME.
WHICH IS WHAT?
SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN, THE
NUCLEAR OPTION?
IF THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY BY
RULES WHERE BASICALLY NOW, THE
PRESIDENT IS BASICALLY
LEGISLATING BY REGULATION RIGHTNOW.
THAT'S RIGHT.IF HE ASSUMES THE
REPUBLICANS IN THE UNITED
STATES SENATE ARE GOING TO
PLAY, ROLLOVER ON JUDICIAL
NOMINEES, I THINK THAT IS A
MISTAKE.
THIS IS A SUPREME COURT FOR A
GENERATION THAT IS GOING TO BE
SELECTED IN THE NECK THREE OR
FOUR YEARS, OR TWO GENERATIONS.
I THINK WE HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT
OF THAT FACT, THERE IS
TREMENDOUS AMOUNT ON THE LINE
HERE.AND WE'VE GOT TO BE CONCERNED,
THE NATURE OF THE APPOINTMENTS
COMING OUT OF THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
I TELL YOU SOMETHING ELSE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA MAY WELL HAVE
WON THE PRESIDENCY AGAIN.
IT LOOKS LIKE HE HAS,
THEENERSCTIONTION ARE CALLINGIT.
HE MAY WELL BE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES.
BEN GAZE I IS NOT GOING AWAY,
FAST AND FURIOUS IS NOT GOINGAWAY.
THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THERE IS A REPUBLICAN
CONTROLLED HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY'RE NOTGOING AWAY.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY THAT
MEANS THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO
HAVE TO WORK BOTH WAYS HERE.
I THINK THE REPUBLICANS ARE
GOING TO HAVE TO HOLD HIM TO IT.
THESE INVESTIGATIONS IN BEN
GAZI WILL BE THE SCANDAL OF
SCANDALS.
THE PROSTITUTION, HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES IS THE ONE THAT
INITIATES THE TAX LEGISLATIONAND THE BUDGET.
THE LOOKS OF THE PRESIDENT'S
LEADERSHIP, WE HAVEN'T BEEN
GETTING IT, THE HOUSE IS THEREPOSITORY.
SO, IF THEY DO THEIR JOB, THEY
CAN WIN.
THAT'S EXACTLY CORRECT.
YOU DO HAVE -- YOU HAVE A FALL
BACK, A FAIL-SAFE HERE.
THAT IS THE HOUSE OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
IT LOOKS LIKE THAT MAJORITY IS
MAINTAINED.I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO BE
MUCH OF A PICKUP.
MAYBE A FEW SEATS.
THE SENATE JUST DID NOT WORK.
YOU KNOW, YOU LOOK BACK AT IT
NOW AND YOU START SAYING,
REDEFINE, WE HAD A LOT OF
OPPORTUNITIES.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SWUNG A
MISS HERE.
AS A CONSERVATIVE, IT'S
DISHEARTENING.
BUT, YOU KNOW WHAT, POLITICS
NERVE RAISED ANYBODY FROM THE
DEAD.AT THE END OF THE DAY WE STILL
HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT.
JAY, AMEN.
KEEP IT UP AND OUR PRAYERS ARE
WITH YOU.
WE GO AWAY NOW TO OUR CBN NEWS
DESK FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT
WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
AGAIN, A NETWORK CALL IS NOT
THE FINAL VOTE.
SO, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY
KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND HERE'S LEE WOOD.
PAT, I HAVE WORD ONE NETWORK
IS BACKTRACKING ON THE STATE OF
OHIO AND SAYING ONE OF THEIR
ANALYSTS IS SAYING THERE'S
STILL A CHANCE THAT OHIO CAN GO
ROMNEY'S WAY.WE'LL KEEP AN EYE ON THAT, BUT
REPUBLICANS DID KEEP CONTROL OF
THE HOUSE TODAY A WE'VE BEEN
MENTIONING.
BUT TURNING TO THE SENATE,
REPUBLICANS NEEDED TO GAIN FOUR
SEATS TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE
U.S. SENATE, BUT THEY FAILED TODO SO.
IN THE COMMONWEALTH OF
VIRGINIA, WE ARE PREPARED TO
SAY DEMOCRATS HELD ONTO A
SENATE SEAT, BEING LEFT OPEN BY
OUTGOING SENATOR JIM WEB.
TIM KAINE HAS DEFEATED GEORGE
ALLEN TO HOLD THAT SEAT.
THAT IS A BATTLE OF TWO FORMER
GOVERNORS OF THE COMMONWEALTH.
AND INDIANA, REPUBLICANS LOST A
SEAT.
RICHARD MURDOCK LOSING TO
DEMOCRAT JOE DONNELLY.
MURDOCK'S CONTROVERSIAL
COMMENTS ABOUT RAPE AND
ABORTION DEFINED THIS RACE INITS FINAL WEEKS.
IN MISSOURI REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMAN TODD AKIN LOST A
CHANCE TO OUST INCUMBENT CLAIRE
MCCASKILL.
REPUBLICAN LEADERS INCLUDING
MITT ROMNEY CALLED ON HIM TO
ABANDON THE RACE.THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.
HE STAYED IN AND HE WAS
TROUNCED BY THE INCUMBENT
MCCASKILL TONIGHT.
IN MASSACHUSETTS REPUBLICANS
LOST ANOTHER SEAT AS INCUMBENT
SCOTT BROWN FELL TO DEMOCRAT
ELIZABETH WARREN.
BROWN SHOCKED THE NATION OF
COURSE IN 2010 WHEN HE WON THE
SEAT HELD BY DEMOCRAT TED
KENNEDY FOR 47 YEARS IN A
SPECIAL ELECTION.
WARREN IS A HARVARD LAW
PROFESSOR AND THE FIRST WOMAN
TO HOLD A U.S. SENATE SEAT IN
MAINE -- MASSACHUSETTS, RATHER.
AND IN MAINE, INDEPENDENT
CANDIDATE ANGUS KING WILL
RETIRE OLYMPIA SNOW.
KING IS EXPECTED TO VOTE WITH
THE DEMOCRATS..
IN FLORIDA, DEMOCRATS HELD
THEIR SEAT, INCUMBENT DEMOCRAT
BILL NELSON PULLED OFF AN EASYVICTORY OVER GOP CONGRESSMAN
CONNIE MACK.THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST RACES
CALLED TONIGHT.
AND IN CONNECTICUT DEMOCRAT
CHRIS MURPHY MAXED OUT LINDA
MCMAHON.
JOE LIEBERMAN WHO SIDES WITH
DEMOCRATS.
A TOUGH AS NAILS RACE IN
MONTANA JON TESTER APPEARS TO
BE DEFEATING DENNY RAYBERG.
THE DEMOCRATS HAVE PICKED UP
THREE SEATS AND THE REPUBLICANS
HAVE LOST THREE SEATS.
KEY RACES HAVE YET TO BE
CALLED, THOUGH, IN OBAMA,
ARIZONA AND OUT WEST.
LET'S GO NOW TO OUR CBN NEWS
POLITICAL EDITOR JOHN LAGGE.
JOHN, WERE YOU PREDICTING A
REPUBLICAN TAKEOVER.
WHAT IN YOUR OPINION HAPPENED
HERE TONIGHT?
LEE, ACTUALLY I THINK THAT
THE REPUBLICANS DID NOT GAIN
ANYTHING FROM THE EVANGELICAL
VOTE THAT TURNED OUT IN BIG
NUMBERS.
AND I THINK THE ABORTION
COMMENTS CLEARLY HURT THE TWO
SENATE CANDIDATES IN INDIANA
AND MISSOURI DURING THEIRDEBATES.
AND RADIO INTERVIEWSRESPECTIVELY.
ONE OF THE AMAZING THINGS FROM
THE EXIT POLLS, AT LEAST THE
EARLY EXIT POLLS THAT ALMOST
50% OF VOTERS' EXIT POLLS SAID
THE ECONOMY OR THINGS IN THE
NATION APPEAR TO BE ON THE
RIGHT TRACK.
NOW, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN A
CHANGE OVER IN THE SENATE IS
NOT AS BIG AN ISSUE FOR PEOPLE
LIKE THAT.
SO, YOU COMBINE THESE THINGS
TOGETHER AND THE REPUBLICANS
AMAZINGLY ENOUGH, LEE, WERE
DEFENDING 10 SEATS IN THIS
ELECTION CYCLE.DEMOCRATS 23.
DEMOCRATS 23, AND THEY STILL
--
STILL PULLED IT OFF.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO
TIP YOUR HAT TO THE DEMOCRATIC
SENATORIAL --
THE GROUND GAME WAS IN THE
SENATE RACES AS WELL.
PAT, IT'S GOING TO BE AWHILE
BEFORE WE SEE HOW ALL THIS
SHAKES OUT.RIGHT.
MY GUESS, PAT, AND I WANTED
TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THIS.
MY GUESS IS THAT CONSERVATIVES
IN THE SENATE ARE REALLY GOING
TO BE ANGRY.
AND I CAN'T HELP BUT THINK IF
THERE IS GOING TO BE A CALL FOR
MITCH MCCONNELL TO RESIGN AS
SENATE MINORITY LEADER AND TO
GET A CONSERVATIVE MAYBE LIKE A
JIM DeMINT OR TOM CO-BURN IN
THERE AS SENATE MINORITY LEADER.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK BLOOD LETTING WILL BE
UNWISE.
I DON'T BELIEVE THEY'LL DO THAT.
BUT YOU NEVER KNOW.SENATORS ARE SENATORS.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT I DON'T
THINK THERE IS ENOUGH -- THEY
GET RID OF THE SENIOR OLD BULL
WHO WAS IN FOREVER, AND THEY
LOST A SEAT.
SO, I'M NOT SURE THAT IS GOING
TO WORK.
>BY THE WAY, WE JUST GOT
THIS IN.
KARL ROVE HAS STUDIED THE
DEMOGRAPHICS AND MAKEUP OF
OHIO, AND HE SAYS THAT THE
NETWORK CALL OF OHIO FOR OBAMA
IS WRONG.
SO, BO IS THE EXPERT.
LET ME TELL YOU, I WITHDRAW
AGAINST HIM RIGHT NOW.
REMEMBER THEY CALLED FLORIDA
FOR BUSH AS PERMANENT.
THEY SHIFTED AGAIN BACK ANDFORTH.
SO, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE TOO
EARLY TO SAY DEFINITIVELY.
BUT I WANT TO GO TO DAVE NOW
FROM BOSTON.
DAVE, YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF
IT.
WHAT DO YOU HEAR?
I'VE GOT TO TELL YOU, PAT,
IT'S LIKE WE'RE BACK FROM THE
DEAD HERE IN BOSTON.
I MEAN, THERE WAS LITERALLY YOU
COULD HEAR A PIN DROP.
THEY CALLED IT FOR OHIO.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN KARL ROVE
HAS SPOKEN UP.
HE WAIT A MINUTE, IT'S NOT OVER
IN OHIO.
NOW FOX IS STARTING TO FIGURE
OUT WHAT THEIR DECISION DESK
WAS ACTUALLY THINKING.
AND WE'VE HAD SO MANY CHEERS
HERE IN JUST THE LAST FEW
MINUTES.
I MEAN IT'S BEEN A PRETTY STARK
CONTRAST TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED
HERE ALL NIGHT LONG.
AND, SO, THERE IS SOME LIFE
HERE IN BOSTON, BELIEVE IT ORNOT.
WHO KNOWS.
I MEAN, WHO KNOWS.
AFTER FLORIDA IN 2000, YOU
NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TOHAPPEN HERE, PAT.
>LOOK, I WILL SAY A COUPLE
OF THINGS.
YOU WONDER IF MITT ROMNEY DOES
END UP LOSING THIS, WHICH IT
APPEARS THAT HE HAS, BUT NOW
WHO KNOWS EXACTLY.
BUT IF HE DOES, WHAT ABOUT THAT
ANTI-OBAMA VOTE?
WE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT IT.
BUT WAS IT ENOUGH?
AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE
QUESTION THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
ARE GOING TO BE WONDERING, THE
FACT THAT HE JUST BASICALLY
SAID -- HE HE BEING MITT ROMNEY
SAYING, WELL, WE'VE GOT THE
ANTI-ROMNEY VOTE.
BUT IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THEY
WERE ABLE TO PROJECT THAT
POSITIVE IMAGE ALL THE WAY
THROUGH ON THAT.
>THE OTHER PART OF THIS
HERE, PAT, YOU GUYS WERE
TALKING ABOUT THE HISPANIC VOTE.
QUITE FRANK LITTLE THERE IS THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE AS WELL
AND THE CHANGING ELECTORATE.
I REMEMBER BACK IN 2007, 2008
WHEN TAVIS SMILY, THE PBS
BROADCASTER, AFRICAN-AMERICAN
PBS BROADCASTER HAD THIS BIG
TELE TOWN TELEVISION EVENT.
MITT ROMNEY DIDN'T SHOW UP,
GIULIANI DIDN'T SHOW UP.
THE POINT IS REPUBLICANS
HAVEN'T BEEN TALKING TO THE
HISPANICS AND THE BLACKS IN
THIS COUNTRY AND IT'S BEEN A
REAL PROBLEM WITHIN THE GOPCIRCLE.
THEY'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT
FOR AWHILE BUT THEY'VE BEEN
DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT.
SO, I THINK THAT WILL BE A
MAJOR CONVERSATION GOINGFORWARD.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND, FOLKS, THIS CALL, ARE THE
NETWORKS SCREWING UP?
RALPH IS STILL WITH US, I
BELIEVE.
RALPH, WHAT ARE THESE GUYS
DOING?
I THINK THIS STATISTICAL
ANOMALY WE'RE RUNNING INTO IS
VERY PERPLEXING.THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IT'S
HAPPENED.
YEAH, I MEAN, CERTAINLY IF
YOU WERE BETTING, YOU WOULD BET
THAT OBAMA WOULD CARRY OHIO.
HE'S CARRIED HAMILTON COUNTY
TONIGHT, WHICH IS CINCINNATI.
HE'S CARRIED FRANKLIN COUNTYTONIGHT WHICH IS COLUMBUS.
AND HE'S CARRIED CLEVELAND.
BUT THE FACT IS THERE ARE STILL
A LOT OF VOTE IN COAL COUNTRY
COMING IN, VOTES COME INTION
FROM SOUTHWESTERN OHIO.AND I THINK IT'S PREMATURE.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, I WANT
TO GET BACK TO THIS DEMOGRAPHIC
QUESTION, PAT, BECAUSE IF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY COMES UP SHORT
TONIGHT, AND CERTAINLY IT LOOKS
LIKE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE
CASE, ALTHOUGH IT'S EARLY TO
CALL IT IN MY VIEW, YOU HAVE TO
REMEMBER THAT IF YOU TAKE THIS
ELECTORATE, WHICH IS 73% WHITE
TONIGHT, 27% MINORITY, IT LOOKS
LIKE IN FLORIDA, BY THE WAY,
IT'S GONE FROM 12% HISPANIC TO
15% HISPANIC.
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE IS
GOING TO BE 14% OF THE VOTE
TONIGHT.
IF YOU TAKE THE SHARE THAT
RONALD REAGAN GOT IN 1980 OF
EVERY ONE OF THOSE GROUPS,
BLACKS, HISPANICS, WOMEN,
WHITES, ASIANS AND SO FORTH,
REAGAN WOULD LOSE IN THIS
ELECTORATE BECAUSE HE RAN WHEN
THE ELECTORATE WAS 88% WHITE.
NOW THE ELECTORATE IS ONLY 73%
WHITE.
SO, WHAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
WIN, LOSE OR DRAW TONIGHT, IS
GOING TO HAVE TO GET BUSY WITH
TOMORROW MORNING AT DAWN IS
FIGURING OUT A WAY, WITHOUT
COMPROMISING THEIR CORE VALUES
OF LIMITED GOVERNMENT,
INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM, STRONGER
FAMILIES AND PROTECTION OF LIFE
AND MARRIAGE, OVER PERFORMING
AMONG THOSE GROUPS.
THEY HAVE TO PRACTICE THE
POLITICS OF ADDITION, NOT THE
POLITICS OF SUBTRACTION.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE 12 MILLION
ILLEGAL ALIENS IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE.
THEY'VE GOT FAMILIES.
MANY OF THEM HAVE WORKED HERE
FOR MANY YEARS AND YOU REMEMBER
THE DEBATE WHEN PERRY WAS
TALKING ABOUT GIVING SOME
EDUCATIONAL ASSISTANCE TO THE
CHILDREN OF SOME OF THESE
PEOPLE AND HE WAS ATTACKED BY
HIS RIVALS FOR THE NOMINATION.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS.
WE CAN'T RUN THEM OUT OF THE
COUNTRY WITH PAY NETS.
#NAME?
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP
THEM.
THE REPUBLICANS SEEM TO BE DEAD
SET AGAINST DOING THAT.
AND I THINK THEY HURT
THEMSELVES VERY BADLY.
I THINK THEY HAVE.
AND THE GOOD NEWS, PAT, IS THAT
IF MITT ROMNEY COMES UP SHORT
TONIGHT, HE WILL HAVE BEEN A
MIDWIFE BETWEEN THE REAGAN-BUSH
HERE A THAT STRETCHED FROM 1980
ALL THE WAY UNTIL BUSH 43 LEFT
OFFICE IN 2009 TO WHAT I
BELIEVE IS A RISING GENERATION
OF NEW LEADERS LIKE MARCO
RUBIOS, BOB JINDAHL, NICKY
HALEY IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
ROB YO HAS PUT FORWARD A
PROPOSAL THAT ALLOW PEOPLE WHO
PAY BY THE RULES, PAY TAXES TO
RECEIVE A RESIDENT VISA.
BUT WHATEVER THE SOLUTION IS,
PEOPLE LIKE MARTINEZ AND ROB YO
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE
FACE AND THE LEADERS OF THIS
PARTY IN THE FUTURE.AND I THINK WHAT'S GOT TO BE
DONE HERE, PAT, IS YOU DON'T
WANT TO TAKE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
KNOCKING ON DOORS AND RINGING
DOOR BELLS AND BURNING SHOE
LEATHER IN THE PRECINCTS AND
MAKING THE PHONE CALLS.
MY ORGANIZATION FAITH AND
FREEDOM COALITION, OUR
VOLUNTEERS IN OHIO MADE 415,000
PHONE CALLS IN THE LAST 10 DAYS.
SO, IN A STATUS QUO ELECTION,
YOU DON'T THROW THEM OVER BOARD.
WHAT YOU DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW
TO KEEP THEM ENERGIZED AND KEEP
THEM ACTIVE AND THEN BRING
OTHERS INTO THE PARTY.
WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND I DON'T THINK THE GAME IS
OVER YET.
I THINK THAT JUST LIKE FLORIDA,
OHIO IS -- KARL ROVE IS A
GENIUS.
HE'S STILL CRUNCHING THENUMBERS.
WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.
>JOHN IS WITH US FROM NEWYORK.
JOHN, TALK ABOUT VOTER TURNOUT
TODAY.
AND THERE WAS A BIG SPIKE OF
THE DEMOCRATS IN 2008 THAT IT
LOOKED LIKE WOULDN'T BE THERE
THIS YEAR, BUT APPARENTLY THEYWERE.
WELL, THE DEMOCRATS DID
THREE VERY SMART THINGS IN THE
LAST FEW YEARS.
ONE IS THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN NEVER
DISBANDED.
IT KEPT A LOT OF OFFICES AND
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
IT KEPT ITS MAILING LISTS ALIVE.
AND THEY WERE CONSTANTLY
RUNNING A PERMANENT CAMPAIGN.
LIKE NOTHING I'VE EVER SEEN
BEFORE.
THE SECOND THING IS THAT THE
OBAMA ADMINISTRATION DID WAS
VERY CLEVERLY USE THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT TO THWART EFFORTS BY
THE STATES TO PASS VOTER ID
FRAUDS.
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
BASICALLY THREW ITSELF IN FRONT
OF ANY ATTEMPT BY A STATE TO
PASS SUCH ID LAW EVEN IF THE
SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED
STATES DECLARED THOSE
UNCONSTITUTIONAL UNDER THE
FEDERAL CONSTITUTION.
THE THIRD THING THEY DID IS
EXPANDED OR TRIED TO EXPAND
EARLY VOTING AND ABSENTEE
VOTING IN AS MANY STATES AS
POSSIBLE.
BECAUSE WITH ALL OF THE UNION
SUPPORT AND THE OBAMA
INFRASTRUCTURE, WHILE MITT
ROMNEY WAS FIGHTING IN THE
PRIMARIES, THEY WERE GETTING
READY TO MARCH PEOPLE TO THE
POLLS.
AND BY THE TIME SEPTEMBER AND
OCTOBER ROLLED AROUND, YOU HAD
MINISTERS WHO WERE TALKING TO
CONGREGATIONS AND IMMEDIATELY
AFTER THE SERMON TAKING THEM TO
BUSES AND TAKING THEM TO THE
EARLY VOTING CENTERS.
NOTHING ILLEGAL ABOUT THATWHATSOEVER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MY VIEW IS
ELECTION DAY SHOULD BE ELECTION
DAY.
IT SHOULDN'T BE ELECTION MONTH.
I THINK WE HAVE DRAMATICALLY
EXPANDED AND ABUSED THE EARLY
VOTING PROCESS.
I
I THINK IT SHOULD BE CUTBACK TO
ONE OR TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
.
THE MORNING AFTER BARACK OBAMA
ACCEPTED THE NOMINATION FORPRESIDENT AT THE CHARLOTTE
CONVENTION, THAT'S JUSTRIDICULOUS.
SO I THINK THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION BENT, BROKE, AND
MASSAGED EVERY RULE THEY COULD
AND KEPT THEIR CAMPAIGN
INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.
THEY CERTAINLY DID.
>ONE LAST QUESTION.
DO YOU FIND EVIDENCE OF FRAUD
#NAME?
IT SEEMS LIKE --
IT WAS SCATTERED.SCATTERED.
THERE ARE SCATTERED PROBLEMS.
IN FLORIDA THEY THREW A POLL
WATCHER -- POLL WORKER, I'M
SORRY, OUT OF THE PRECINCT.
IN WISCONSIN THERE'S ALL KINDS
OF CONCERNS ABOUT FEDERAL VANS
BEING USED TO TRANSPORT WORKERS
FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES.
IN PHILADELPHIA 78 REPUBLICAN
ELECTION JUDGES WERE BARRED
FROM ENTERING THE POLLS.
THE JUDGE HAD TO REINSTATE THEM.
I DON'T SEE A SYSTEMIC EFFORT
YET, BUT IT'S EARLY.
THE POLLS ONLY CLOSED A FEW
HOURS AGO.
I THINK WE DO HAVE TO LOOK ATTHIS.
WE HAVE TO CATALOG THEM AND WE
SHOULDN'T JUMP TO ANY
CONCLUSIONS BECAUSE WE DON'THAVE ALL OF THE EVIDENCE IN YET.
JOHN, THANK YOU.
I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE CALLING
RIGHT NOW, WE SHOULD HAVE
MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE
EARLIER, THAT IOWA HAS GONE FOR
OBAMA.
OHIO -- IOWA IS IN THE OBAMA
CAMP.
WHAT ABOUT MARRIAGE, LEE?
VOTERS AROUND THE COUNTRY
FACED SOME QUESTIONS, TOTAL OF
176 MEASURES ON THE BALLOTS IN
38 STATES.
AMONG SOME OF THE HIGHER
PROFILE MEASURES, WASHINGTON,
OREGON, COLORADO COULD BECOME
THE FIRST STATES TO LEGALIZE
THE RECREATIONAL USE OFMARIJUANA.
MASSACHUSETTS VOTERS REPORTEDLY
APPROVED MEDICAL MARIJUANA.
ANOTHER IMPORTANT MEASURE ON
THE MASSACHUSETTS BALLOT
TONIGHT, WHETHER TO ALLOW
PHYSICIAN-ASSISTED SUICIDE.
BUT THE ISSUES THAT GENERATED
THE MOST ATTENTION WERE
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE AND PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE LAW.
TODAY VOTERS IN FOUR STATES
WEIGHED IN ON GAY MARRIAGE
WHETHER IT SHOULD BE LEGAL.
THE BATTLE HAS BEEN NASTY IN
SOME AREAS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN MAINE VANDALS
SPRAY PAINTED SWASTIKAS.
42 STATES OBJECTED TO SAME SEXMARRIAGE.
ADVOCATES FELT TODAY THEY HAD A
BETTER CHANCE THAN EVER BEFORE.
GAY MARRIAGE ADVOCATES
WELCOME FOUR MORE STATES VOTING
ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE ESPECIALLY
SINCE THEY INCLUDED WASHINGTONAND MARYLAND.
ONE LINE OF THOUGHT IS ONE OF
THE MORE BLUE OF THE BLUE
STATES, MARYLAND'S POPULATION
WOULD PROBABLY BE AMONG THE
FIRST TO APPROVE A SAME-SEXMARRIAGE.
ANOTHER LINE OF THOUGHT IS ONE
OF THE LARGEST BLACK
POPULATIONS, APPROVE OF
PRESIDENT OBAMA, AND SINCE HE
IS NOW IN FAVOR OF SAME-SEX
MARRIAGE THEY WOULD BE, TOO.
KENYA MORTON IS AND SAYS
MARYLAND IS VERY OPEN TO
ALTERNATE LIFE STYLES.
OPPORTUNITIES OF GETTING BY
WITH STUFF THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE
ABLE TO GET BY IN YOUR STATE,
MOST LIKELY MARYLAND WILL BE
THE STATE THAT WILL LET YOU DOIT.
MANY MARYLAND CHURCH GOERS
WORRY STATE SANCTIONED GAY
MARRIAGE MEANS THEY LOSE THE
RIGHT TO TEACH THEIR CHILDREN
WHAT IS BIBLICAL ABOUT
SEXUALITY.
DON DWYER HAS BEEN A LONG-TIME
LEADER IN THE FIGHT AGAINST GAYMARRIAGE.
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE EDUCATION
OF CHILDREN.
IT IS ABOUT THE REDEFINITION OF
THE WORD MARRIAGE SO IT CAN BE
TAUGHT IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS
A NORMAL SEXUAL LIE LIFE-STYLE.
FRANK SHOE BERT ORDERED THE
TRADITIONAL CAMPAIGN IN ALL
FOUR STATES TUESDAY.
IN WASHINGTON, D.C. HE TOLD CBN
NEWS BELIEVERS NEED TO REALIZE
THE ISSUES GOING ON IN PLACES
WHERE GAY MARRIAGE IS STATE
SANCTIONED.
IT'S TAUGHT IN THE SCHOOLS
TO YOUNG CHILDREN.
PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE THAT
MARRIAGE IS AS GOD DESIGNED IT
ARE PUNISHED.
THEY'RE SUED.
THEY ARE BROUGHT BEFORE HUMAN
RIGHTS COMMISSIONS.
THERE'S ALL KINDS OF
CONSEQUENCES THAT COULD BEFALLUS.
PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS,
PASADENA, MARYLAND.
JOINING US NOW WITH MORE ON
THIS CRITICAL ISSUE IS MAGGIE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
RIGHT NOW IT DOES NOT LOOK GOOD
FOR MITT ROMNEY AND FOR THE
REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE.
HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THESE
MARRIAGE INITIATIVES TONIGHT?
WELL, I TALKED TO BRIAN
BROWN WHO RUNS THE NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION FOR MARRIAGE JUST
A FEW MINUTES BEFORE I CAME ON.
AND THEY'RE FEELING PRETTY GOOD
ABOUT MARYLAND AND MAINE, WHICH
WERE THE TWO THAT THEY HAD
GOTTEN SUBSTANTIAL -- IT'S VERY
CLOSE.
THESE ARE DEEP BLUE STATES.
WASHINGTON, MINNESOTA, MARYLAND
AND MAINE.
AND THE SUPPORTERS OF MARRIAGE
WERE OUTSPENT ROUGHLY 8 TO 1, 6
TO 1, 8 TO 1 IN MOST OF THESE
STATES.
SO, IT'S BEEN A VERY GRUELING
CAMPAIGN.
PEOPLE ARE FEELING SURPRISINGLY
GOOD ABOUT OUR CHANCES IN
MARYLAND, MAINE AND MINNESOTA
AND WE'LL BE WAITING TO SEE
WHAT HAPPENS IN WASHINGTON
STATE AS THE POLLS CLOSE LATE
THERE.
MAGGIE, FOR YOUR
INITIATIVES, FOR TRADITIONALMARRIAGE, DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S
THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN ELECTORATETHAT IS SUPPORTING PRESIDENT
OBAMA FOR PRESIDENT AND MORE
LIBERAL CANDIDATES FOR, SAY,
SENATE, BUT DO HAVE A CULTURAL
OBJECTION TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGE?
WELL, THAT WOULD EXPLAIN
MARYLAND.
IT REALLY WOULDN'T EXPLAIN IT
IN MAINE WHICH HAS A VERY LOW
PROPORTION OF THE VOTE THAT IS
BLACK.
SO, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S
CERTAINLY TRUE THE BLACK
CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN STRONG
SUPPORTERS OF THE BIBLICAL
UNDERSTANDING OF MARRIAGE AND
THAT'S BEEN VERY IMPORTANT.
AND OBAMA AND THE NAACP HAVE
BEEN TRYING TO -- IN FACT,
THERE WAS AN AD CAMPAIGN WHICH
ACTUALLY URGED BLACK VOTERS TO
IGNORE THEIR PASTORS ON THE
MARRIAGE ISSUE.
WE'LL SEE SHORTLY HOW THATWORKS OUT.
THERE IS AN IMPORTANT VOTE IN
IOWA FOR ONE OF THE FOUR -- ONE
OF THE FOURTH JUDGE WHO VOTED
TO IMPOSE GAY MARRIAGE IN THAT
STATE IS UP FOR AN ELECTION,
JUDGE WIGGINS.
SO, WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT.
BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT
MARRIAGE IS GOING TO RUN AHEAD
OF THE GOP CANDIDATE WHO
REFUSED TO USE THE VALUES
ISSUES.
SO, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT.
MAGGIE, THANKS FOR BEING
WITH US TONIGHT.
WE APPRECIATE IT.SURE.
LET'S GO BACK TO PAT.
YOU KNOW, I WANT TO POINT
OUT HERE ON THIS PROGRAM WE'VE
HAD 40 DAYS OF PRAYER.
WE HAVE ASKED GOD ALMIGHTY TO
INTERVENE, TO GIVE US WISE AND
RIGHTEOUS LEADERS.
AND I WAS IN LINE WAITING TO
VOTE EARLIER TODAY.
I THOUGHT OF THE GREAT
GETTYSBURG ADDRESS OF ABRAHAM
LINCOLN.
HE SAYS THE GOVERNMENT OF THE
PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE AND BY
THE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT PERISH
FROM THE EARTH.
IN THE VOTING PRECINCT WHERE I
WAS, THERE WERE AFRICAN
AMERICANS, THERE WERE
HISPANICS, THERE WERE POOR,
THERE WERE COLLEGE EDUCATED,
THERE WERE STUDENTS, THERE WERE
COUPLES, THERE WERE ALL KINDS
OF PEOPLE, AND THIS IS
DEMOCRACY.
AND WE HAVE AN EVIDENCE OF
DEMOCRACY TODAY, DEMOCRACY IN
ACTION.
GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE FOR
THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE
SHOULD NOT PERISH FROM THE
EARTH.
SO, THAT'S WHAT PRESIDENT
LINCOLN SAID VERY ELOQUENTLY
AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY.
WE HAVE THE SECOND IN COMMAND
WITH US RIGHT NOW, AN OLD HAND
IN POLITICS.
HOW DO YOU SEE THE CULTURAL
SHIFT IN AMERICA, BY THE PEOPLE
OF THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE?
THE PEOPLE SPOKE.
THE PEOPLE SPOKE, YOU KNOW.
H.L.MIINKON SAID DEMOCRACY IS
GIVING WHAT THE PEOPLE WHAT
THEY WANT GOOD AND HARD.
WE'LL SEE FOUR YEARS OF PEOPLE
REGRETTING THIS DECISION IF
PRESIDENT OBAMA DOES HANG ON
BECAUSE IT'S CLEAR PEOPLE DON'T
WANT HUGE DEFICITS.
THEY DON'T WANT HUGE GOVERNMENT
CONTROL OF A LOT OF THEIR LIVES.BUT THEY SEEM TO WANT THE
SECURITY THAT HE OFFERS AS
OPPOSED TO MITT ROMNEY WHO IS
SAYING, LET'S BE THE COUNTRY
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN THAT OUR
PARENTS AND GRANDPARENTS WERE.
IT WILL BE AN INTERESTING FOUR
YEARS.
WE'LL END UP WITH BUYER'S
REMORSE.
IT WILL BE TOO LATE.
IT WILL BE TOO LATE.
WE CONSERVATIVES HAVE TALKED
FOR AWHILE ARE WE BECOMINGEUROPE.
IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE IF WE CAN
SPEND EIGHT YEARS THIS WAY AND
NOT REALLY HAVE TURNED A CORNER.
I PRAY WE HAVEN'T, BUT IT SEEMS
LIKE WE'RE ON A PATH THAT'S
VERY HARD TO COME BACK.
IF CONSERVATIVES WIN AGAIN THEY
CAN'T UNDO IT WITHOUT SO MUCHPAIN.
IT'S -- THIS IS -- I MEAN --
HOW MANY TRILLIONS?
16 TRILLION.
$16 TRILLION AND HE'S GOING
TO 20 TRILLION.
WE'LL NEVER GET OUT OF IT.
I MEAN, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN
IS THE INTEREST ON THAT DEBT --
BECAUSE OUR INTEREST IS SO LOW,
SOONER OR LATER THE JAPANESE
AND THE CHINESE, THE ARABS AND
ALL THE OTHERS, THEY ARE
THECTION GOING TO TAKE YOUR
PAPER ANY LONGER, AT LEAST NOT
AT THESE INTEREST RATES.
-- AREN'T
IF THE INTEREST DOUBLES AND
TRIPLES AT THE LEVEL, WE WON'T
HAVE ANY MONEY IN THE BUDGET
FOR ANYTHING ANY MORE.
EXACTLY.
BUT THE PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO
REALIZE THAT.
THEY DON'T SEEM TO REALIZE
IT.
AND IF CONSERVATIVES GET BACK
INTO POWER THEY'LL KOCH GET A
COUPLE YEARS.
THE PRESCRIPTION WILL BE PAIN
NECESSARY AND IT WILL BE THROWN
RIGHT BACK OUT.
THAT'S WHERE EUROPE IS.THE PEOPLE OF THE LEFT WON OVER
THE LAST 30 YEARS AND
CONSERVATIVES GET IN ONLY LONG
ENOUGH TO TRY TO START FIXING
THE PROBLEMS AND THEN THEY'RE
PUSHED RIGHT BACK OUT.
SO, MAYBE THAT'S OUR FUTURE.
I HOPE NOT.
THAT'S HORRIBLE.
THE SERVICES, THE GARBAGE
COLLECTION AND THE POLICE, THE
FIRE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THE
ROADS IN CERTAIN AREAS IN
AMERICA RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE
DIGGING UP PAVED ROADS BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO CONTINUE
TO MAINTAIN THE HIGHWAYS.
THAT'S WHAT I SAW IN ZAIRE.
IT'S TERRIBLE.
A LOT OF PLAYSTATIONS WILL
EXPERIENCE THAT FIRSTHAND.
THEY'LL WONDER, WHO DID THIS TOUS?
THE ANSWER IS, WELL, YOU DID
IT, YOU HAD A CHOICE.
I DON'T THINK MITT ROMNEY WAS
THE GREATEST CANDIDATE IN THE
WORLD, BUT IT'S BEEN PRETTY
OBVIOUS FOUR YEARS THIS
COUNTRY'S LEADERSHIP IS NOT
GETTING IT FIXED.
WE'VE BEEN RUNNING DEFICIT
OF TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT DEFICITS,
BUT THEY WANT GOVERNMENTSERVICES.
RIGHT.
AND THEY DON'T WANT TO GIVE
UP ANY OF THE GOODIES THAT HAVE
BEEN GIVEN TO THEM.
THEY DO NOT WANT TO GIVE UP ANY
OF THEIR BENEFITS.
I WANT MY PART FROM GOVERNMENT.
AND THEY DON'T WANT LIFE TO
HAVE ANY RISKS WHATSOEVER.
THEY WANT SOMEONE MAKING SURE
THEY LOOK BACK.
POLITICAL FACT THAT AS YOU HAVE
MORE WOMEN WHO HAVE TO LOOK
AFTER THEMSELVES, TAKE CARE OF
THEIR CHILDREN BY THEMSELVES,
PUT ASIDE WHATEVER CAUSED ALL
THAT, IF THEY'RE THERE AND THEY
VOTE IN LARGER NUMBERS FOR
PEOPLE LIKE OBAMA AND THE
DEMOCRATS, THEY HAVE TO FIGURE
THAT OUT.
HOW ARE THEY?
OBAMA HAS BEEN RULING BY
EXECUTIVE FIAT.
HE JUST IGNORES CONGRESS.
HE THINKS HE'S THE ANOINTED ONE.
I THINK THE BRIGHT SPOTS ARE
THOSE STATES, WE HAVE 30
GOVERNORS NOW THAT HOLD OUTLIKE IT IS.
MOST REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS
ANYWAY HAVE MADE THESE GREAT
STRIDES IN THEIR STATE, WALTER,
CASEY, THESE PEOPLE BOBBY
JINDAHL, IF THEY HAVE A
DIFFERENT UNDERSTANDING THAN
PEOPLE HAVE IN THIS GENERATION
OF AMERICA.
I HOPE SO.
SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND
TEACHES YOU, HE AGAINST
EDUCATION, YOU KNOW THE GAME.
WHEW.
LET'S GO QUICKLY BACK TO JAY
SEKULOW.
GUYS, WHAT KIND OF POLICIES ARE
WE GOING TO EXPECT IF OBAMA
CONTINUES WHAT WE CAN SEE IN
THE ELECTION AND HE WINS OHIO,
HE SWEEPS THE TABLE?
WELL, I THINK IN TERMS THE
PRESIDENT IS GOING TO UTILIZE,
PAT, THE EXECUTIVE DECISION
MAKING THAT HE'S DONE.
HE'S GOING TO TRY TO GET HIS
POLICIES THROUGH REGULATION.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO WORK
LEGISLATIVELY, BUT THIS IS A
PRESIDENT THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT
SHIED AWAY FROM USING HIS
EXECUTIVE POWER.
I WOULD SAY OFTENTIMES ABUSING
THAT EXECUTIVE POWER.
AND BASICALLY LEGISLATING FROM
THE OVAL OFFICE.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEETHAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE
PREPARED TO CHALLENGE
REGULATIONS AS THEY COME
FORWARD BECAUSE THEY WILL BE
CONTINUED ENCROACHMENTS ONLIBERTY AND FREEDOM.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO
REALIZE.
THIS PRESIDENT WILL UTILIZE
THOSE METHODS TO GET HIS AGENDATHROUGH.
WE'VE BEEN PREPARED TO
CHALLENGE THOSE IN COURT AS
NECESSARY.
I THINK THAT WILL BE FREQUENT.
JOHN, THE AP IS CALLING
COLORADO TO OBAMA AS WELL.
JOHN, HOW DO YOU SEE IT, WHAT'S
HE GOING TO DO?
THE PRESIDENT HAS TWO
CHOICES.
HE CAN ASSUME THE LOGICAL
AGENDA AND DIVIDE THE COUNTRY
FURTHER, OR HE CAN RECOGNIZE
THAT THE COUNTRY HAS REJECTED
BY NOT HAVING CREATED JOBS FOR
THE LAST FOUR YEARS HIS
ECONOMIC POLICIES.
THERE'S $2 TRILLION OF CAPITAL
WAITING ON THE SIDE LINES.
AND OBAMA'S ELECTION IS ONLY
GOING TO MAKE THAT MORE
UNCERTAIN AND COULD TIP US INTO
RECESSION.
SO, PRESIDENT OBAMA IS A CHOICE.
TWO YEARS AGO AFTER THE
REPUBLICANS LOST THE 2010
ELECTION, HE AGREED TO EXTEND
THE BUSH TAX CUTS BECAUSE HE
RECOGNIZED HOW MUCH DAMAGE THAT
KIND OF TAX INCREASE WOULD DO
TO THE ECONOMY.I THINK THAT IF HE DOESN'T WANT
TO TIP THE ECONOMY INTO THE
RECESSION, IF HE'S PRACTICAL AT
ALL, HE'LL RECOGNIZE HE HAS TO
WORK WITH THE REPUBLICANS AND
NOT PURSUE AN EXCLUSIVELY THE
AGENDA.
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO FACE THE
VOTERS ANY MORE.
HE'S NOW INTO A LEGACY.
ONE OF THE LEGACIES HE WANTS TO
LEAVE IS A DECENT ECONOMY.
AND UNLESS HE TRULY BELIEVES
THAT HIS INTERVENTIONISTPOLICIES WILL MAKE THE ECONOMY
BETTER THERE IS A CHANCE THAT
HE CAN CUT A REASONABLE
COMPROMISE WITH THE REPUBLICANS
SO WE DON'T FACE THE LARGEST
TAX INCREASE IN AMERICAN
HISTORY STARTING ON DECEMBER
31ST, WHICH WILL PERHAPS TIP
THE ECONOMY INTO RECESSION.
WE HAVE THIS FISCAL CLIFF,
THE SEQUESTER THAT'S BUILT IN.
IT WILL DECIMATE THE MILITARY
IF IT GOES THROUGH.
DO YOU THINK HE'LL LEAVE THAT
IN PLACE?
HE'S BEEN UNWILLING TO MAKE ANYCOMPROMISE.
MAYBE YOU SAY HE DOESN'T HAVE
TO -- HE'S IN FOUR YEARS.
HE DID, HE DID EXTEND THE
BUSH TAX CUTS IN 2010.
YES.
THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER TIMES
IN WHICH THE PRESIDENT HAS COME
CLOSE TO MAKING SOME KIND OF A
BARGAIN WITH JOHN BAINER IN
2011
NOW THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE TO
FACE THE VOTERS IT'S ANYONE'S
CALL AS TO WHICH DIRECTION HEWILL GO.
BUT IF HE CONTINUES TO PURSUE A
HARD LEFT AGENDA HE'S GOING TO
DEAL WITH ANOTHER RECESSION AND
AN ECONOMY THAT IS NOT GOING TO
CREATE ANY JOBS.
EVEN PRESIDENT OBAMA IS NOW IN
THE LEGACY BUILDING BUSINESS.
WELL, LET'S HOPE THAT HE'S
LOOKING TO THE FUTURE.
FROM THE RHETORIC IN THE
CAMPAIGN WAS, WE'VE DONE IT
RIGHT.
THE ECONOMY IS TURNING AROUND.
THEY WANT TO GO BACK TO THE
FAILED POLICIES THAT BROUGHT US
TO THIS MESS.
SO, THAT WAS WHAT WAS SAID.
WELL, JOHN, OUR TIME IS OUT.
THANK YOU, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, FOR BEING WITH US.
I WANT TO APPRECIATE -- EXPRESS
MY APPRECIATION TO OUR GUESTS
FOR THIS PARTICULAR SEGMENT
THIS EVENING AND TO THOSE OF
YOU ON THE CONSERVATIVE
STANDPOINT, I'M SURE WE HAVEN'T
BEEN GIVEN THE BEST OF NEWS.
BUT IT'S WHAT'S OUT THERE.
SO, UNLESS THERE IS SOME
DRAMATIC SHIFT THAT I DON'T
SEE, WE'LL WAKE UP TOMORROW AND
WE'LL HAVE THE SAME PRESIDENT
WE'VE GOT NOW.