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The 700 Club - December 10, 2012

By society's standards, Charles was a lost cause as a functional illiterate. See how Jesus changed his life. Plus, author Ace Collins explains the significance of the 'X' in Xmas. Read Transcript


A NATION DIVIDED.

[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ] WHY SOME

IN FRANCE HAVE DECLARED WAR ON

THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

IT IS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL.

PLUS...

YOU JUST START WONDERING,

WHY AM I HERE.

WHEN YOUR DAD TELLS YOU SEVERAL

TIMES YOU ARE A MISTAKE.

YOU WONDER AM I A MISTAKE.

THIS LIE HAUNTED HIM HIS

ENTIRE LIVE ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

Pat: WELCOME TO THIS EDITION

OF "700 CLUB." WE ARE CLOSER TO

THE FISCAL CLIFF AND NEARER TO

CHRISTMAS.

WHETHER IT IS GOOD WILL OR BAD

WILL DEPENDS ON WHICH STORIES

YOU READ IN THE NEWSPAPERS.

ANOTHER THING THAT DOESN'T LOOK

TOO GOOD IS THE TERRORIST GROUP

HAMAS WHICH SEEMS TO BE GROWING

BOLDER THANKS TO THE ARAB

SPRING.

EXILE LEADER RETURNED TO GAZA

THIS WEEKEND AND RIGHT ON

QUEUE, HE IS VOWING TO DESTROY

ISRAEL.

TERRY: HAMAS CELEBRATED ITS

25TH ANNIVERSARY.

WHAT IS FUELING THE RADICAL

GROUP IS THE RISE OF MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD IN GAZA AND EGYPT.

CHRIS MITCHELL HAS MORE

REPORTER: SOME CALLED IT

THE BIGGEST RALLY IN THE

HISTORY OF GAZA.

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS GATHER TO

HEAR HAMAS POLITICAL LEADER

KHALED MESHAAL.

IT MARKED THE FIRST TIME IN 45

YEARS SINCE MESHAAL HAD BEEN IN

GAZA.

HE USED THE OPPORTUNITY TO

PLEDGE ISRAEL'S DESTRUCTION.

[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ]

PALESTINE WILL BE PALESTINE.

WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER THE

LAND, JERUSALEM, RIDE OF RETURN

OR OUR RIDE TO RESISTANCE.

WE WILL NOT LEAVE ANY INCH OF

PALESTINIAN LAND AND NEVER GIVE

UP ON ANY OF OUR RIGHTS.

ISRAELI PRESIDENT SHIMON

PERES RESPONDED TO MESHAAL'S

SPEECH.

THE REAL NATURE OF HAMAS, TO

KILL, TO CONQUER OR TO

COMPROMISE THE PEOPLE OF GAZA

CAN REMAIN POOR AND HUNGRY.

HAMAS'S IS A SIGN THEY FEEL

THEY WON THE RECENT WAR WITH

ISRAEL AND EM BOLDED AFTER THE

RISE OF MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN

EGYPT AND REACH AN AGREEMENT

WITH PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY

PRESIDENT MAHMOUD ABBAS.

IN EGYPT THE CRISIS BETWEEN

OPPONENTS AND SUPPORTERS OF

EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT MORSI

CONTINUED.

MORSI AGREED TO RESEND PART OF

HIS AGREE THAT GAVE HIM ALMOST

ABSOLUTE POWER BUT DID NOT

AGREE TO STOP THE REFERENDUM

OVER THE NEW EGYPTIAN

CONSTITUTION.

THAT SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER

15TH.

IT WILL LEAD EGYPT TOWARDS AN

ISLAMIST STATE.

THEY HAVE CANCELLED PARTS

FROM THE CONSTITUTION.

THE VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE ON

THE 15TH.

WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE ARE

SAYING NO TO NONE OF US WANT

HIM TO RULE US.

BOTH MORSI AND HAMAS ARE

PART OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

A GROUP THAT BEGAN IN 1928 WITH

THE GOAL OF OVERTHROWING

SECULAR ARAB GOVERNMENTS,

DESTROYING ISRAEL AND

ESTABLISHING AN ISLAMIC

CALIPHATE THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE

EAST.

THEY SEEM DETERMINED TO REACH

THOSE GOALS.

CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

PAT: THANKS, CHRIS.

I HOPE THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS

LISTENING TO WHAT YOU ARE

SAYING BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN

AN OBFUSCATION GOING ON IN

WASHINGTON TO MAKE THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD TO SEEM LIKE A

PARTNER FOR PEACE.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING.

IT IS A DEDICATED ISLAMIC PARTY

SEEKING TO ESTABLISH THE

CALIPHATE THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE

EAST.

WHAT MORSI HAS TRIED INITIALLY,

HE HAS BACKED OFF A LITTLE BIT

FROM HIS DEMANDS, IN DEED HE

HAS.

THAT IS ONLY A FIG LEAF IN A

SENSE OF THE OVERALL REFERENDUM

HE IS ASKING THE EGYPTIAN

PEOPLE TO APPROVE.

HOPEFULLY THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH

TO TURN HIM DOWN.

AS CHRIS MENTIONED, EGYPT'S NEW

CONSTITUTION WOULD HARM

CHRISTIANS AND OTHER NORTDS.

LEE WEB TAKES A FURTHER LOOK AT

WHAT IS GOING ON, HERE IS LEE.

REPORTER: PAT, A PROMINENT

EGYPTIAN PASTOR SAYS COPTIC

CHRISTIANS ARE TERRIFIED.

DR. MICHAEL YOUSSEF MOVED TO

THE U.S. IN 70S AND NOW SENIOR

PASTOR OF ONE OF ATLANTA'S

LARGEST CHURCHES AND RECENTLY

SPOKE TO HIM.

I WAS READING THROUGH ALL

THE ITEMS THEY HAVE CHANGED.

THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY HAVE

DESTROYED THE RIGHTS OF

MINORITIES AND WOMEN AND

SERVITUDE, IT IS JUST, IT IS

LITERALLY GOING BACK TO THE

DARK AGES.

INSTEAD OF MOVING ON WITH

MODERN TIMES.

A CHRISTIAN LEADER, WE ARE

BETWEEN THE ROCK AND A HARD

PLACE.

EVEN IF THE CONSTITUTION, THE

REFERENDUM DOES NOT PASS, GOING

TO RIG IT.

THEY ARE GOING TO SAY IT

PASSED.

REPORTER: DR. YOUSSEF WENT

ON TO BLAME THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE INTERINTERVIEW

I DID WITH MICHAEL YOUSSEF AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

SIGNS OF PROGRESS THIS WEEKEND

IN THE EFFORT TO KEEP AMERICA

FROM PLUNGE OVER THE FISCAL

CLIFF IN 21 DAYS, PRESIDENT AND

HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER MET

FACE TO FACE FOR THE FIRST TIME

IN A MONTH.

THERE IS TALK OF COMPROMISE.

SOME GOP LAWMAKERS ARE OPEN TO

RAISING TAXES ON HIGHER INCOME

EARNERS IF DEMOCRATS CONSIDER

HOLDING THE TOP RATE BELOW 39.6

PERCENT AND ONE LEADING

DEMOCRAT IS PUTTING MEDICARE ON

THE TABLE.

I DO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE

MEANS TESTING AND THOSE WITH

HIGHER INCOME AND RETIREMENT

SHOULD PAY MORE.

THAT COULD BE PART OF THE

SOLUTION.

SOME LAWMAKERS BELIEVE THERE

NEEDS TO BE CONGRESSIONAL

APROOUCHLT BY THE END OF THE

YEAR.

COULD BE ONE OF THE MOST

IMPORTANT SUPREME COURT RULINGS

IN U.S. HISTORY.

BOTH SIDES ARE WORRIED.

ONE CONSERVATIVE COLUMNIST

BELIEVES OPPOSITION TO GAY

MARRIAGE IS DYING OFF.

CHARLENE ISRAEL HAS THAT STORY.

REPORTER: THE SUPREME

COURT'S ANNOUNCEMENT FRIDAY

THAT IT WOULD HEAR TWO CASES

CHALLENGING LAWS PROHIBITING

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS ONE OF THE

MOST CONTENTIOUS DEBATES IN

AMERICA.

THE ELECTION PROVES OPPOSITION

TO GAY MARRIAGE IS COMING TO AN

END.

THERE IS AN EMERGING

CONSENSUS, THE OPPOSITION TO

GAY MARRIAGE IS DYING.

IT IS OLD PEOPLE.

HUNDREDS OF HOMOSEXUAL

COUPLES LINED UP TO COLLECT

MARRIAGE LICENSES AFTER THE

GOVERNOR SIGNED OFF ON THE

VOTER APPROVED LAW LEGALIZING

GAY MARRIAGE.

SOME BELIEVE THE SUPREME COURT

COULD UPHOLD CALIFORNIA'S BAN

ON SAME SEX UNIONS.

THEY SEE 41 REASONS TO BE

CONCERNED.

WHILE NINE STATES ALLOW

SAME-SEX PARTNERS TO MARRY OR

WILL SOON, 41 DO NOT OF THOSE,

THEY HAVE WRITTEN BANS.

WE WERE HOPING THE SUPREME

COURT WOULDN'T TAKE THE PROP 8

CASE IN WHICH CASE WE COULD GET

MARRIED PRETTY SOON.

IT MEANS MORE WAITING.

COURT WILL DECIDE

CALIFORNIA'S PROPOSITION 8 BAN

ON GAY MARRIAGE AS WELL AS

DEFENSIVE MARRIAGE ACT A

FEDERAL LAW THAT PROVIDES TAX

BREAKS TO LEGALLY MARRIAGES.

I EXPECT FOUR OR FIVE

JUSTICES TO UPHOLD PROPOSITION

8

WHY?

BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE

UNITED STATES DOESN'T HAVE

MARRIAGE.

10TH AMENDMENT SAYS IT BELONGS

TO THE STATES.

OTHERS FEAR A FEDERAL MANDATE

FOR ALL 50 STATES.

ULTIMATE QUESTION IS WHETHER

THE SUPREME COURT IS READY TO

ISSUE WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A ROE

V. WADE OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE TO

ACTUALLY DECLARE THAT IT IS

UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR ANY STATE

TO LIMIT MARRIAGE TO UNIONS OF

ONE MINNESOTA AND ONE WOMAN.

CHARLENE ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.

REPORTER: BATTLE OVER

CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS IN

NORTHERN VIRGINIA, OOET R EACH

YEAR LOUDEN HAS A DISPLAY.

LOCAL ATHEISTS ARE FIGHTING TO

HAVE A PERMANENT HOLIDAY

DISPLAY OF THEIR OWN.

REZ DEPENDENTS ON BOTH SIDES

ARE SPEAKING OUT.

AS A PARENT IT MAKES IT MORE

DIFFICULT BECAUSE I HAVE TO

HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY

CHILDREN THEY ARE NOT READY TO

HAVE.

PERSONALLY, I TAKE A MORE

TRADITIONALIST VIEW.

I WOULD RATHER SEE ONE TOWN

DISPLAY.

IT IS GREAT TO SEE BOTH ENDS

OF THE SPECTRUM.

WHY NOT HAVE EVERYONE DISPLAYED?

I AM FOR EVERYBODY.

REPORTER: COUNTY OFFICIALS

HAVING TWRIEING TO RESOLVE THIS

FOR YEARS.

AN IRANIAN CHRISTIAN THREATENED

WITH EXPULSION, REZA JABBARI IS

A CONVERT FROM ISLAM.

HE MOVED TO SWEDEN AND APPLIED

FOR ASYLUM.

OUR COVERAGE OF HIS STORY AND

YOUR RESPONSE HELPED PLACE

PRESSURE ON SWEDISH OFFICIALS.

THEY HALTED THE DEPORTATION

ORDER AND GRANTED JABBARI A NEW

HEARING.

HE AND HIS PASTOR ASKED WE

SHARE THIS VIDEO WITH YOU.

I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL

THANKS FOR CBN CHILD, THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE BY THE CBN

CHILD ACTING IN THE INTERNET.

WE DON'T THINK IT COULD HAVE

BEEN DONE WITHOUT YOUR HELP.

REPORTER: JABBARI'S LAWYER

HOPES HE WILL HAVE PERMANENT

RESIDENCY SOON, PAT.

PAT: THAT IS NICE.

APPARENTLY IT HAS AN IMPACT.

TERRY: THIS IS A TIME WHEN

WE FIND OUT THERE IS SOMETHING

THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND

JUSTICE GOT BEHIND THE RELEASE

OF THE PASTOR THE IRANIANS

SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION BECAUSE

HE REFUSED TO GIVE UP HIS

CHRISTIAN BELIEFS.

CLEAR CASE OF RELIGIOUS

PERSECUTION.

OUTCRY, THE ACLJ WAS TALKING

AND BEFORE LONG THE STATE

DEPARTMENT BEGAN TO TALK.

AFTER A WHILE THE IRANIANS

BACKED DOWN.

I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE

THESE FIGHTS ALL THE TIME.

LOOKS LIKE WE ARE UNDER ASSAULT.

THE BIBLE SAYS THE GATES OF

HELL SHOULD NOT PREVAIL AGAINST

IT.

GATES DON'T MOVE.

WE MOVE AGAINST GATES.

WE OUGHT TO BE BATTERING DOWN

THE GATES OF UNBELIEF AND

UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE DEFENSIVE.

THAT IS NOT A POSTURE I LIKE.

TERRY?

TERRY: COMING UP, THE

PUBLICITY STUNT THAT SHOCKED A

NATION, WHY THESE FRENCH YOUNG

PEOPLE STORMED A MOSQUE AND

RELEASED A DECLARATION OF WAR

IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.

COULD THIS HAPPEN IN AMERICA?

THAT IS THE QUESTION COMING UP.

A NEW TWIST ON AN OLD WAY OF

HOW TO PUT CHRIST BACK INTO

CHRISTMAS.

STAY TUNED FOR ALL OF THAT.

THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND THE

WORLD, NOW THEY ARE COMING TO

OUR STUDIO, HEAR A LIVE

PERFORMANCE FROM THE I RISH

TENORS.

FIND OUT WHY THIS SCHOOL TURNED

DOWN A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR

CAMPUS AND WHY IT IS CALLED A

MODEL FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.

THEN SHE IS A ROAD SCHOLAR,

SILVER MEDAL SKIER AND NAMED

ONE OF THE MOST INSPIRING WOMEN

IN AMERICA, MEET BONI ST. JOHN

ON THE "700 CLUB."

PAT: WE HAVE TOLD YOU HERE

ABOUT HOW THE ISLAMIC PEOPLE

ARE TRYING TO OVERTAKE FRANCE

AND CHANGE FRANCE INTO A MUSLIM

COUNTRY.

THE NATION OF FRANCE IS

BREAKING DOWN STEADILY FALLING

INTO THE HANDS OF ISLAM.

AS WE HAVE BEEN SOUNDING THAT

ALARM ON THE ONGOING MUSLIM

TAKE OVER NOW AS DALE HURD

REPORTERS A NEW GENERATION IS

RISING UP, FIGHTING TO TAKE

BACK THEIR COUNTRY.

WATCH THIS.

REPORTER: IT WAS A POLITICAL

PROTEST WITH SHOCK VALUE, THE

LIKES OF WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN

SEEN ON FRENCH TV NEWS, A GROUP

OF YOUNG PEOPLE STORMED A

MOSQUE GOING TO THE ROOF

CALLING FOR A NATIONAL

REFERENDUM ON MUSLIM

IMMIGRATION.

BAN INCLUDED NUMBER 732, THE

YEAR CHARLES MARTEL DEFEATED

THEM.

GENERATION IDENTITAIRE.

THEY SAY THEY ARE AT WAR WITH

THE 68ERS, THE BABY BOOMERS WHO

RUN FRANCE FOR WRECKING THEIR

FUTURE WITH MULTICULTURAL

POLICIES THAT SOME FEAR ARE

TURNING FRANCE INTO A MUSLIM

NATION.

THEY RELEASED THIS VIDEO CALLED

"A DECLARATION OF WAR."

[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ] THEIR

RHETORIC SOUNDS RACIST, THEY DO

NOT BELIEVE IN RACIAL

SUPERIORITY OR RACIAL

STEREOTYPES.

THEY FEAR LOSING FRANCE TO

MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS FROM AFRICA.

I TALKED WITH A LEADER OF THE

GROUP IN THE SOUTHERN CITY OF

TOULON.

IT IS ABOUT LOVING OUR

PEOPLE AND OUR LAND.

WE FIGHT FOR THIS.

GENERATION IDENTITAIRE IS A

SYMPTOM OF A NATION COMING

UNGLUED.

IT IS A PREDICTABLE BY-PRODUCT

OF FAILED MULTICULTURALISM IT

HAS CREATED ETHNIC TRIBALISM

AND DANGEROUS NO-GO ZONES

SENSITIVE URBAN ZONES BY THE

GOVERNMENT.

ASSIMILATION IS NOW

IMPOSSIBLE IN FRANCE.

IT WAS POSSIBLE WHEN IMMIGRANTS

CAME FROM EUROPEAN COUNTRIES

BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE US.

THE FRENCH REPUBLIC WHICH IS

SUPPOSED TO BE SECULAR HAS

ACTIVELY HELPED MUSLIMS BUILD

MOSQUES AND SPREAD SHARIA LAW.

MOST ARE ALARMED.

ONE OF FRANCE'S LEADING WRITERS

SAYS FRANCE IS COLUMNIZED WITH

THE HELP OF THE GOVERNMENT AND

MEDIA.

HE CALLS IT THE GREAT

REPLACEMENT.

IT IS VERY SIMPLE EITHER YOU

HAVE ONE PEOPLE IN A COUNTRY

AND IN THE PLACE OF ONE

GENERATION YOU HAVE DIFFERENT

PEOPLE.

FRANCE IS BEING COLONIZED?

YES, YES.

KUMU ACCUSED THE FRENCH

MEDIA OF COVERING UP THE

SITUATION BECAUSE OF POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS.

THE ISLAMIZATION THEY SEE

HAPPENING WITH THEIR OWN EYES

IS NOT HAPPENING.

TELEVISION IS SAYING

EVERYDAY AND SCHOOL IS SAYING

WHAT IS HAPPENING IS NOT

HAPPENING.

IT IS ALL IN YOUR HEAD.

IT IS NOT USUAL.

PRACTICALLY EVERY WEEK CATHOLIC

CHURCHES ARE ATTACKED AND

PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING STONES.

SO NO THIS IS NOT HAPPENING, IT

IS NOT IMPORTANT OR IF THEY

CAN'T DENY IT IS HAPPENING.

THIS IS THE RESULT.

GENERATION IDENTITAIRE IS

UPSET THEIR FUTURE HAS BEEN

LOOTED BY THE BABY BOOMER'S OUT

OF CONTROL SPENDING.

[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ] GENERATION

IDENTITAIRE MEMBER ORL LEE IS

ANGRY WITH BABY BOOMERS WHO

HAVE LEFT A MESS TO HER

GENERATION.

BECAUSE THEY HAD EVERYTHING.

THEY HAD THE COOL JOB.

THEY HAD -- IT WAS EASY AT THE

TIME TO BUY A FLAT OR HOUSE.

THEIR CHILDREN WERE SECURE.

AND THEY TAKE EVERYTHING FROM

US.

SHE TOO NO LONGER BELIEVES

IN CULTURAL ASSIMILATION.

WE CAN'T LIVE TOGETHER.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME WAY OF

LIFE.

WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME VALUES.

WE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON.

NOTHING.

MANY BELIEVE FRANCE IS ON A

TRAJECTORY TOWARD MORE SOCIAL

IMMIGRATION AND SOME DAY CIVIL

WAR.

THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT

IS A FIGHT TO THE DEATH.

IT IS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL.

SEEMS LIKELY GROUPS BASED ON

ETHNIC IDENTITY, LIKE

GENERATION IDENTITAIRE WILL

CONTINUE TO ATTRACT MORE AND

MORE FOLLOWERS, DALE HURD, CBN

NEWS, IN TOULON, FRANCE.

PAT: INTERESTING THESE

GENERATION X'ERS OR Y'S ARE

TURNING AGAINST THEIR PARENTS

SAYING YOU HAVE LOOTED OUR

FUTURE.

IT IS TRUE.

THE OBAMA GENERATION IS LOOTING

THE FUTURE OF THE KIDS.

THESE UNCONSCIONABLE DEFICITS.

SPENDING FOR WASTEFUL PRODUCTS

IS LOOTING THE FUTURE OF THE

YOUNG.

WE DON'T HAVE THOSE

DEMONSTRATIONS HERE IN AMERICA

LIKE FRANCE.

WE WILL OR SHOULD.

TERRY: WHAT STARTS IN

EUROPE USUALLY MAKES ITS WAY

HERE.

PEOPLE NOW, WE HAVE JUST WHAT

THEY HAVE WHICH IS PEOPLE

MOVING INTO OUR COUNTRY TO

RE-ESTABLISH AND COLONIZE

RATHER THAN TO BECOME AMERICANS

AND ENJOY THE FREEDOM WE ALL

ENJOY.

PAT: AMAZING, IT IS NOT

MUSLIM IDENTITY.

THEY SHOULD BE ASSIMILATED AS

FRENCH SPEAKING PEOPLE SAME

THING IN AMERICA.

PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE

WORLD AND BECOME AMERICANS.

THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.

IT IS FIEB FINE.

TO COME HERE AND COLONIZE AS

ISLAMISTS HOPING TO TAKE

AMERICA INTO SHARIA LAW AND

SUBJUGATE US, THAT IS NOT

WHAT WE WANT.

VERY INTERESTING, DALE HURD,

SUBURB.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WON'T

SEE THIS ON ANY OTHER

TELEVISION NETWORK.

TERRY.

TERRY: UP NEXT, THE STORY

BEHIND THE X IN XMAS AND

PROBABLY NOT WHAT YOU THINK.

PLUS MEET A MAN WHO

MIRACULOUSLY WAS HEALED OF

DYSLEXIA.

ALL OF THAT WHEN WE COME BACK.

TERRY: MANY CHRISTIANS

AVOID WRITING XMAS LIKE THE

PLAGUE.

THEY ASSUME IT IS A WAY OF

TAKING CHRIST OUT OF THE WORD

CHRISTMAS.

THAT IS NOT SO ACCORDING TO

AUTHOR ACE COLLINS.

HE SAYS THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.

HERE IS WHY.

CHRISTMAS YOU SEE IT

ABBREVIATED AS XMAS.

ARE WE GOING BACK TO AN OLD

TRADITION?

A LOT OF PEOPLE GET UPSET.

THEY THINK YOU ARE TAKING

CHRIST OUT OF CHRISTMAS.

X IS THE FIRST LETTER OF

CHRIST'S NAME IN GREEK.

IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN A

CHRISTIAN WAS MARTYRED PEOPLE

GO UP ON THE STREET AND THE

BODY WAS TAKEN OFF AND DRAW AN

X ON THE SPOT TO REPRESENT A

CHRISTIAN DIED HERE FOR HIS

FAITH.

FOR 1500 YEARS, THE CHURCH

WROTE CHRISTMAS AS XMAS.

REALLY?

WORSHIP CHRIST.

X THEY COULD READ AS CHRIST'S

NAME.

SECONDLY, PAPER AND INK WERE IN

SHORT SUPPLY.

ABBREVIATED ANYTHING THEY COULD.

THIS WAS LIKE AN EARLY FORM OF

TEXTING.

XMAS.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT WAS NOT

TAKING CHRIST OUT OF CHRISTMAS

BUT KEEPING CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS.

WE CAN USE IT AS A WORSHIP AND

WITNESSING TOOL TODAY.

WE CAN TELL PEOPLE THE HISTORY

OF XMAS AND SHOW THEM IT IS

PUTTING CHRIST INTO CHRISTMAS.

TERRY: ACE COLLINS HAS

WRITTEN "STORIES BEHIND THE

TRADITIONS OF CHRISTMAS" IT IS

FASCINATING AND AVAILABLE

WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.

PAT: VERY INTERESTING.

THE GREEK KI IS CAIRO, YOU SEE

THAT IN THE OLD CHURCH SYMBOLS,

CAIRO, FIRST TWO LETTER OF

CHRIS TUS, THEN FISH AS THE

SYMBOL THAT WAS FROM ICHTHYS,

JESUS CHRIST, GOD AND SAVIOR.

THEY BEGUN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT

THOSE WERE.

XMAS IS NOT DENIGRATING JESUS.

CHRISTMAS COULD BE A VOLATILE

TIME AT CHARLES NIXON'S HOUSE.

CHARLES NEVER KNEW WHEN HIS DAD

WOULD COME HOME DRUNK, PULL A

GUN ON HIS FAMILY AND ASK WHICH

ONE OF YOU SHOULD I KILL?

WHEN CHARLES NIXON WAS A

CHILD HIS FATHER TOLD HIM HE

WAS A MISTAKE.

I GREW UP IN A HOME WHERE

ALCOHOL FLOWED QUITE REGULARLY.

I HAD A GOOD DAD EXCEPT FOR WEN

HE HAD TOO MUCH ALCOHOL.

HE WOULD TURN MEAN.

MY FATHER WOULD COME HOME DRUNK

AND PULL OUT A GUN AND SAY

WHICH SHOULD I KILL?

THIS WENT ON REGULARLY WHEN I

GREW UP.

AS A CHILD I HAD NIGHTMARES.

IS HE GOING TO COME IN AT NIGHT

WHEN YOU ARE SLEEPING AND KILL

YOU?

NO ONE EVER TOLD CHARLES

ABOUT GOD.

HE KNEW WHAT HIS PARENTS WERE

DOING WAS WRONG.

I KNEW MY PARENTS WERE

HAVING PARTIES AND USING THE

LORD'S NAME IN VAIN.

I PRAYED TO GOD TO FORGIVE THEM.

NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT JESUS.

EVEN WHEN YOU ARE LITTLE, YOU

KNOW GOD EXISTS.

MEN WERE ALL HEAVY DRINKERS

AND TOBACCO USERS AND

INTRODUCED THEM TO CHARLES AT

AN EARLY AGE.

AT SIX AN UNCLE INTRODUCED

ME TO CHEWING TOBACCO AND

DRINKING AT 12.

THE MEN IN MY FAMILY, YOU

DRINK, USE TOBACCO, CHASE WOMEN.

SO THESE WERE THE THINGS I

THOUGHT MADE YOU INTO A MAN AND

MADE YOU VALUABLE.

EMOTIONAL ABUSE FROM

CHARLES' FATHER TOOK ITS TOLL.

YOU START WONDERING, AM I

MISTAKE?

WHY AM I HERE?

AT SCHOOL CHARLES ALSO

DISCOVERED HE HAD DYSLEXIA.

WHEN I WAS REAL YOUNG, I

WROTE A PAPER.

A TEACHER SAID THAT IS FUNNY.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

AS WE WENT ALONG, SHE TOOK IT

TO ANOTHER TEACHER.

THEY WERE SNICKERING AND

LAUGHING, LOOK WHAT HE IS DOING.

HE MUST BE STUPID OR SOMETHING.

I WAS BEING TOLD I WAS A

MISTAKE AND REALIZING YOU CAN'T

READ OR WRITE.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

I MIGHT AS WELL QUIT SCHOOL.

CHARLES DROPPED OUT AT 15.

THAT YEAR HE MARRIED AND BECAME

A FATHER.

THE MARRIAGE DIDN'T LAST LONG.

BY 21 SHE LEFT ME.

WE WERE BOTH TOO LONG.

YOU CAN'T BUILD YOUR LIFE ON

DRINKING AND GOING TO BARS.

IT JUST DOZEN WORK.

SINCE HE WAS FUNCTIONALLY

ILLITERATE, CHARLES WAS HEADED

FOR LOW WAGE JOBS AND POVERTY.

I NEVER THOUGHT I HAD A

FUTURE.

I WAS WORKING TO BUY ALCOHOL

AND FIND THE NEXT PARTY.

THE FRIENDS I HAD WERE BAR

FRIENDS IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE BEER

OR MONEY, THEY WEREN'T AROUND

TO HELP YOU OUT.

IT IS A SAD, SAD WAY TO LIVE.

SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE HAVING A

GOOD TIME AND THE PARTY IS

ALWAYS GOING.

WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND FEELING

BROKEN AND HORRIBLE, YOU

REALIZE, THIS AIN'T NO WAY TO

LIVE.

THEN YOU DRINK AGAIN BECAUSE

YOU WANT TO FILL THAT VOID.

FINALLY CHARLES HIT BOTTOM.

I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT AFTER

DRINKING AND GETTING DRUNK AND

GOT IN A FIGHT IN A BAR, I WAS

LYING IN BED, LORD, GOD IF YOU

ARE REAL, SHOW YOURSELF TO ME.

IF YOU BRING SOMEBODY INTO MY

LIFE TO SHOW ME YOU ARE REAL.

THAT SOMEBODY WAS JAMIE.

SHE HAD WENT TO CHURCH ONE

MORNING AND SHE ACCEPTED THE

LORD.

SO LATER THAT DAY AS WE WERE

TOGETHER IN THE KITCHEN OF HER

HOUSE SHE SAID I GOT SAVED.

FROM WHAT?

SHE SAID I AM BORN AGAIN.

HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?

SHE WOULD SPEND HOURS READING

OUT LOUD OUT OF THE OLD

TESTAMENT.

SHE WENT WITH FRIENDS AND I WAS

SITTING THERE AND WENT TO THE

FRIDGE AND GOT A BEER.

I TURNED ON THE TV.

A CHRISTIAN CHANNEL.

THERE WAS A PASTOR ON TV

TALKING ABOUT WHY WE NEED A

SAVIOR.

HE WAS SAYING HAVE YOU EVER

LIED?

HAVE YOU EVER STOLEN SOMETHING?

I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WAIT A

MINUTE, HE IS TALKING ABOUT ME.

IT ALL CLICKED THAT I NEEDED A

SAVIOR.

THAT NIGHT CHARLES ALSO

ACCEPTED JESUS.

FROM THAT POINT ON, I WAS

DELIVERED FROM THE CHAINS, THE

ALCOHOL, LIFE STYLE I WAS

LIVING.

HE THEN BOUGHT A CHILDREN'S

BIBLE AND BEGAN READING FROM

THE NEW TESTAMENT.

IT DIDN'T TAKE ME LONG UNTIL

I WAS IN THE NORMAL BIBLE.

TODAY CHARLES READS NORMALLY

AND NO SIGNS OF DYSLEXIA.

THE LORD BLESSED ME WHERE I

CAN RETAIN SCRIPTURES, TODAY I

AM AN ORDAINED PASTOR.

TOOK A GUY THAT COULD BARELY

READ AND NOW I AM PREACHING THE

GOSPEL.

IT WAS A TOTAL MIRACLE.

CHARLES AND JAMIE WROTE A

BOOK TOGETHER ABOUT THEIR

EXPERIENCE.

TODAY THEY ARE MARRIED WITH A

HAPPY BLENDED FAMILY.

BIBLE SAYS JEREMIAH 29:11 I

HAVE PLANS TO GIVE YOU HOPE AND

A FUTURE.

HE LOOKS AT US AND SAYS YOU ARE

NOT A MISTAKE.

I MADE YOU THE WAY I WANTED AND

I CAN USE YOU.

CHARLES SAYS HE KNOWS WHAT

IT IS TO BE A MAN.

A THOUGHT BEING A MAN WAS

TO BE MEAN AND TOUGH AND DRINK.

WHAT IT TAKES IS HAVING A

RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.

THAT HE WILL MAKE YOU THE MAN

YOU NEED TO BE.

PAT: DID ANYBODY TELL YOU

YOU WERE A MISTAKE?

DID YOUR PARENTS MAKE YOU FEEL

UNLOVED?

WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP, WERE

YOU NEGLECTED, REJECTED?

DID SOME TEACHER EMBARRASS YOU

IN SCHOOL AND MAKE YOU FEEL

LIKE YOU WERE STUPID?

THERE WAS A TIME IN THE OLD

DAYS WHEN A KID WOULD SIT UP IN

FRONT OF THE CLASS WITH A DUNCE

CAP HUMILIATING EMBARRASSMENT.

DID THAT HAPPEN TO ANY OF YOU?

HAVE YOU HAD THE FEELING OF

REJECTION NOBODY WANTED MOE?

YOUR PARENTS OR FATHER TOLD YOU

YOU WERE WORTHLESS, NO GOOD,

GOOD FOR NOTHING, NEVER WOULD

SUCCEED DIDN'T HAVE PLANS FOR

YOU, YOU WERE A KNOT HEAD,

KNUCKLE HEAD, BONE HEAD?

ANYBODY SAY THAT TO YOU.

I BET THAT IS TRUE.

A LOT OF THEM, THOSE WOUNDS ARE

DEEP DOWN INSIDE.

I TELL YOU WHAT, GOD SAYS ABOUT

THOSE PARENTS, YOUR OLD MAN IS

A LIAR.

I HAVE SOMETHING BETTER FOR YOU.

I HAVE A PLAN FOR YOU.

I HAVE A PLAN TO GIVE YOU A

FUTURE AND HOPE.

THAT IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS IN

JEREMIAH.

TO GIVE YOU A FUTURE AND HOPE

GOD HAS SOMETHING WONDERFUL

AHEAD, SOMETHING BEYOND BELIEF.

EYE HASN'T SEEN, EAR HASN'T

HEARD IT NEITHER HAS IT ENTERED

INTO THE HEART OF MAN.

RIGHT NOW HE SAYS IF YOU WILL

ALLOW ME TO COME INTO YOUR

HEART I WILL CHANGE YOU.

I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT IT

MEANS TO BE A CHILD OF A KING

AND TO REIGN AND RULE WITH GOD

ALL MIGHTY.

IF YOU WANT THAT, I WANT YOU TO

PRAY WITH ME RIGHT NOW.

WHEREVER YOU ARE, PRAY THESE

WORDS AND PRAY, LORD, JESUS

CHRIST I BELIEVE THAT YOU DIED

ON THE CROSS FOR ME AND THAT

YOU ROSE AGAIN, THAT I MIGHT

LIVE FOREVER.

SO I REJECT THE NEGATIVITY THAT

HAS SURROUNDED ME FOR MUCH OF

MY LIFE.

I TURN TO YOUR PROMISES AND I

SAY LORD COME INTO MY HEART.

I WANT TO BE THE CHILD OF GOD

THAT YOUR WORD TELLS ME I

SHOULD BE.

I RECEIVE YOU NOW AS SAVIOR AND

I MAKE YOU LORD OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, LORD THAT YOU HAVE

HEARD MY PRAYER AND THANK YOU

THAT YOU HAVE COME IN TO MY

HEART.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME JUST

THEN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT

GOD HAS RECEIVED YOU AND LOVES

YOU AND YOU HAVE A FUTURE AHEAD

OF YOU.

NOW JUST TO HELP YOU GET

STARTED, I DID SOMETHING

SEVERAL YEARS AGO I THINK WILL

HELP YOU.

I DID A DETAILED STUDY OF WHAT

HAPPENS TO YOU AND WHAT THE

BIBLE SAYS ABOUT IT.

IT IS A LITTLE COMPACT DISK

CALLED "A NEW DAY".

I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU FREE IF

YOU WANT IT.

YOU SAY I PRAYED WITH PAT, WHAT

HAPPENS NEXT?

THIS LITTLE BOOK HAS SCRIPTURE

STUFF IN IT.

ALL FOR FREE.

NOTHING WHATSOEVER.

IT WON'T COST YOU A CENT.

CALL RIGHT NOW, SAY I PRAYED

WITH PAT.

I HAVE GIVEN MY HEART TO THE

LORD.

IT IS A NEW DAY FOR ME.

I AM FREE FROM THOSE NEGATIVE

IMPULSES THAT WERE SURROUNDING

ME FOR SO MANY YEARS.

I HAVE BEEN SET FREE, I AM A

CHILD OF GOD.

CALL IN, TOLL FREE NUMBER,

1-800-759-0700.

EASY TO REMEMBER, PICK UP YOUR

PHONE, SOMEBODY IS HERE WHO

LOVES YOU.

SAY I PRAYED TODAY, I HAVE

GIVEN MY HEART TO JESUS.

THE ANGELS OF GOD ARE REJOICING

BECAUSE OF YOU.

WELL, TERRY HAS SOMETHING

INTERESTING.

WE ARE GOING TO SWITCH TO THE

UKRAINE TO TALK ABOUT GYPSIES,

TERRY?

TERRY: THAT'S RIGHT, PAD.

THEY ARE CALLED AROMA PEOPLE.

I AM TAKING YOU TO A GYPSY CAMP

IN UKRAINE WHERE 13 PEOPLE LIVE

IN A TENT.

LATER ON FOR KING AND COUNTRY,

SHARE A CHRISTMAS SONG WITH US.

REPORTER: WELCOME BACK TO

"700 CLUB." A MEMBER OF THE

ELITE SALE TEAM SIX KILLED

HELPING RESCUE AN AMERICAN

DOCTOR IN AFGHANISTAN.

DR. DILIP JOSEPH WAS WORKING

WITH MORNING STAR DEVELOPMENT.

MEMBERS OF THE TALIBAN CAPTURED

DR. JOSEPH AND TWO CO-WORKERS.

DR. JOSEPH REMAINED CAPTIVE FOR

THREE DAYS UNTIL SPECIAL FORCES

MADE THEIR DARING RESCUE.

PRESIDENT OBAMA PRAISED THE

SPECIAL OPERATOR SAYING HE GAVE

HIS LIFE FOR HIS FELLOW

AMERICANS.

CBN RAISING MONEY FOR A TRIBAL

VILLAGE ON THE THAI-BURMA

BORDER CAPTURING CHRISTMAS

SONGS AND AWARD WINNING CHOIR

AND PROFESSIONAL HARPIST.

TICKETS FOR ALL 500 SEATS SOLD

OUT.

CONCERT PROCEEDS GOING TO

PROVIDE FAMILIES WITH THE FREE

MEDICAL CLINIC, 700 MOSQUITO

NETS AND 400 WATER TANKS, 300

CHILDREN WILL RECEIVE FREE

CHRISTMAS GIFTS.

YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE BY

LOGGING ON TO

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STICK AROUND, PAT AND TERRY

WILL BE BACK AFTER THIS.

TUESDAY, THEY HAVE BEEN

AROUND THE WORLD, NOW THEY ARE

COMING TO OUR STUDIOS, HEAR A

LIVE PERFORMANCE FROM I RISH

TENORS.

PLUS FIND OUT WHY THIS SCHOOL

TURNED DOWN A MULTIPLE DOLLAR

CAMPUS AND WHY IT IS BEING

CALLED A MODEL FOR HIGHER

EDUCATION.

THEN SHE IS A SILVER MEDAL

SKIER AND NAMED ONE OF THE MOST

INSPIRING WOMEN IN AMERICA.

MEET BONI ST. JOHN ON "700

CLUB."

TERRY: AS WE GET READY FOR

THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, WE ALL

NEED TO REMEMBER THE WORDS OF

JESUS, IT IS MORE BLESSED TO

GIVE THAN RECEIVE ESPECIALLY

WHEN WE ARE GIVING TO THOSE IN

NEED.

TAKE A LOOK.

TERRY: I AM HERE IN UKRAINE

IN A GYPSY CAMP.

THERE IS ALREADY A CHILL IN THE

AIR AND WINTER IS JUST AROUND

THE CORNER.

IF YOU SAW THIS TENT STANDING

HERE, YOU WOULD THINK IT IS A

LEFT OVER PLAY CAMP FROM

CHILDREN IN THE SUMMERTIME.

TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THERE

ARE 13 PEOPLE LIVING INSIDE

THIS TENT.

THIS BOY IS SEVEN YEARS OLD.

THERE IS A TWO-MONTH-OLD BABY

HERE.

THEY ARE WET TO THE CORE.

IT IS A COLD RAINY DAY HERE.

THIS FAMILY IS DOING THEIR BEST

TO MAKE A LIVING.

THE DAD IS MAKE BASS KETS OUT

OF PIECES OF TWIG HE HAS

GATHERED FROM THE WOODS.

THE MOM IS GATHERING MUCH ROOMS

SO SHE CAN BRING FOOD HOME.

WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF

WINTER WHEN IT IS 20 BELOW

ZERO?

HOW DO THEY SURVIVE?

OUR GOAL IS BUILD A HOME TO

TAKE THEM OUT OF THE WINTER AND

HAVE A GOOD LIFE HERE IN

PORSHGOVAL.

TERRY: IT IS AMAZING THE

CHANGE A FEW SHORT WEEKS CAN

BRING.

WORKING WITH A CBN STAFF IN

UKRAINE, ORPHAN'S PROMISE WAS

ABLE TO BUILD A SHELTER FOR

THIS FAMILY.

A HOUSE MADE OF METAL WITH A

STRONG WOOD FLOOR AND THICK

LAYER OF INSULATION.

AIRTIGHT WINDOW AND DOOR ALONG

WITH A NEW WOOD BURNING STOVE

MAKES IT THE BEST HOME IN THIS

COMMUNITY.

WARM BLANKETS WILL KEEP THIS

FAMILY COMFORTABLE ALL WINTER.

MORE GOOD NEWS TO REPORT.

DURING MY VISIT, WE WERE

ALARMED OF THE CONDITION OF THE

TWO-MONTH-OLD BABY BOY WHO HAD

A COUGH AND TERRIBLE FEVER.

HIS MOM'S NURSING EFFORTS WERE

NOT ENOUGH.

WE GAVE HER FORMULA AND

MEDICINE FOR LITTLE PETRO.

HE IS NO LONGER SICK, HAS PUT

ON WEIGHT AND LOOKS MUCH

HEALTHIER.

IN FACT EVERYONE LOOKS HEALTH

YERP AND HAPPIER.

IN ADDITION TO THE FATHER'S

BASKET MAKING, WE HAVE PLANS TO

HELP THEM WITH A GARDEN OR

OTHER LIVELIHOOD THO SUSTAIN

THIS FAMILY.

IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS,

THEY WERE A LITTLE BEWILDERED,

WHO WOULD GO TO SUCH GREAT

EFFORT TO HELP A FAMILY OF

GYPSIES.

THE PASTOR FROM A LOCAL CHURCH

TALKED OPENLY ABOUT HIS FAITH

AND WHY GOD CARED ENOUGH TO

BRING SOMEONE TO HELP THEM.

THE FAMILY HAS STARTED

ATTENDING THE CHURCH.

I THANK GOD FOR THE HELP YOU

HAVE GIVEN US.

I COULDN'T EVEN DREAM SOMEONE

WOULD GIVE US SUCH A HOUSE,

THANK YOU.

TERRY: THE REAL CHANGE IS

IN THE MONTHS TO COME AS THEY

LEARN MORE ABOUT GOD'S GRACE

AND LOVE AND EXPERIENCE HIS

ONGOING PROVISION FOR THEM.

TERRY: WE HAVE COME TO LOVE

THE GYPSY COMMUNITY TO SEE THE

HEART BREAK OF THE POVERTY THEY

LIVE IN, MOST OF THE ADULTS

FIND THEMSELVES ILLITERATE.

JOBS ARE DIFFICULT TO COME BY.

WE HAVE BUILT SCHOOLS, HELPING

KIDS TO BECOME EDUCATED.

THE FATHER WENT OUT INTO THE

WOODS AND MAKING BASKETS

CELLING THEM FOR 50 CENTS A

PIECE AND TRYING TO RAISE A

FAMILY, WIFE IN THE WOODS

COLLECTING MUSHROOMS.

THIRTEEN PEOPLE LIVING IN THE

TENT.

PAT: THE VISIONS WE HAVE OF

GYPSIES IN COSTUMES SINGING

MELODIES AND TELLING FORTUNES

ALL GLAMOROUS.

THERE WAS NO GLAMOUR

ANYWHERE.

WE ARE IN FIVE GYPSY CAMPS

DOING WORK.

I AM EXCITED TO SAY THE CHURCH

IS GROWING IN THOSE CAMPS

PEOPLE ARE COMING TO CHRIST.

WE HAVE TAKEN PEOPLE NOTARY

PUBLIC AND DONE SEMINARS TO

TEACH THEM HOW TO PLANT THEIR

OWN CROPS.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOOLS.

PAT: THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO

PLANT CROPS?

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

TERRY: NO.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO

BUY SEEDS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE

TOOLS TO TILL THE SOIL.

IT IS ALL DONE BY HAND.

THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT WE HAVE IN

TRACTORS AND PLOWS.

IT HAS BEEN AN INSIGHT.

FIRST CAMP HAD NO RUNNING WATER.

WE FINISHED A BATHHOUSE.

FAMILIES WILL BE ASSIGNED A DAY

OF THE WEEK WHERE THEY CAN

BATHE.

THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE

WANT YOU TO KNOW AS "700 CLUB"

MEMBERS LYOU HELP US?

SO MUCH NEED AROUND THE WORLD.

WE HAVE SOME BLESSINGS, $20 A

MONTH 65 CENTS A DAY. MAKES YOU

A "700 CLUB" MEMBER.

WE WANT TO SEND YOU PAT'S

TEACHING, "GOD'S PLAN FOR

AMERICA."LET'S NOT STOP NOW,

LINK ARMS TOGETHER, CALL OUR

TOLL FREE NUMBER,

1-800-759-0700.

YOU CAN LOG ON TO CBN.COM.

IF YOU ARE A "700 CLUB" MEMBER,

WATCH FOR THIS IN THE MAIL.

IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A

DIFFERENCE THIS CHRISTMAS.

INSIDE FOR YOU IS THIS

WONDERFUL BOOKLET CALLED "QUIET

MOMENTS IN HIS PRESENCE."

GREAT RECIPES.

PAT: AMEN P. WHAT IS NEXT?

TERRY: COMING UP, NEXT YOUR

E-MAIL QUESTIONS, PSALM 19:13,

KEEP BACK YOUR SERVANT FROM

PRESUMPTUOUS, WHAT IS THE

SIN OF PRESUMPTION?

TERRY: WE WANT TO TAKE TIME

TO ANSWER E-MAIL, THIS IS FROM

GLORIA, PAT, PSALM 19:13, KEEP

BACK YOUR SERVANT FROM PREM

SUMMIT SHOUS SINS, CAN IS THERE

A FINE LINE I SEEM TO STUMBLE

AS I SEEK THE LORD FOR ANSWERS.

PAT: I THINK PRESUMPTUOUS

SIN IS GETTING AWAY WITH STUFF.

THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO ME.

I AM GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF

THE LORD.

THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT.

TERRY: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW

WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS BY QUOTE

WALKING IN THE SPIRIT.

I TRY TO DEVELOP MYSELF

SPIRITUALLY, I HAVE GOTTEN

FRUSTRATED AND DON'T KNOW HOW

ELSE I AM WALKING IN THE SPIRIT.

DO I HAVE AN EXAGE RATED VIEW

OF HOW MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD

SHOULD BE?

I THINK SO.

[LAUGHTER] I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO

ENJOY THE LORD.

YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE WITH -- I

HAVE BEEN MARRIED MANY, MANY,

MANY YEARS.

YOU LIVE WITH YOUR WIFE, LOVE

YOUR WIFE.

SHE LOVES YOU.

YOU BRING UP CHILDREN, YOU LIVE

TOGETHER, AND YOU WALK DAY BY

DAY BY DAY, YOU TAKE CARE OF

EACH OTHER IN SICKNESS AND

HEALTH.

THAT IS YOUR WALK.

TERRY: AND YOU REST IN THAT.

NEW

PAT: YOU DO.

AM I REALLY KEEPING THIS

COMMANDMENT?

WE DON'T, WE SHOULDN'T LIVE

THAT WAY.

IT SHOULD BE A NATURAL THING.

AND THEY THAT WALK IN THE

SPIRIT LIVE IN THE SPIRIT.

YOU KNOW, YOU ARE IN THE

SPIRIT, YOU ARE WORSHIPPING GOD.

YOUR WHOLE LIFE SHOULD BE A

LIFE OF PRAYER AND PRAISE.

SHOULD I WORRY ABOUT THIS,

SHOULD I DO THAT, IS THIS OKAY?

AS MANY ARE LED BY THE HOLY

SPIRIT, THEY ARE THE SONS OF

GOD, LET THE PEACE OF GOD BE AN

UMPIRE IN YOUR HEART.

PEACE OF GOD IS THERE.

THAT PEACE WILL HELP YOU IN

YOUR WALK WITH THE LORD.

ALL RIGHT.

TERRY: THIS IS KAREN, WHAT

SHOULD A PARENT DO FOR HELP

OTHER THAN PRAY WHEN TEENS ARE

DELINQUENT?

PAT: BEAT THEM.

[LAUGHTER].

TERRY: HE DIDN'T MEAN THAT.

YEAH, HE DOES.

BIBLE SAYS ROT OR REPROOF

DRIVES IT FAR FROM THEM, TRAIN

UP A CHILD IN THE WAY HE SHOULD

GO AND WHEN HE IS OLDER HE

WON'T DEPART.

IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TEACHING A

CHILD, BY THE TIELD THEY ARE

TEENAGERS DON'T BE SURPRISED

YOU HAVE A GREAT BIG STRAPPING

ADULT THAT WANTS HIS OWN WAY.

THE WAY YOU BRING UP A CHILD IS

BY LOVE.

TEACH THEM LOVE.

YOU TEACH THEM TO BE, YOU WEAN

THEM ON TO GOD.

THAT IS WHAT I DID WITH MY

CHILDREN.

I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO GOD.

DON'T LISTEN TO ME BUT GOD.

WHAT DOES GOD SAY?

THE SOONER I COULD GET THEM

GRADUATED FROM ME TO THE LORD,

BETTER OFF THINGS WERE.

DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG AND

STRONG THEY WERE, SOMETHING A

WHOLE LOT BIGGER THAN THEY ARE

CONTROLLING THEM.

TERRY: WHEN A CHILD IS A

TEEN, THEY ARE STILL IN YOUR

HOME UNDER YOUR GUIDANCE AND

DIRECTION, YOU CAN REMOVE

PRIVILEGES, RIGHT?

PAT: YOU CAN DO ALL KINDS OF

THINGS, WHOLE IDEA, WHEN A KID

IS 14, 15, 16, 17, THIS

PUNISHMENT STUFF DOESN'T CUT IT.

YOU CAN SAY ALL RIGHT, YOU ARE

GROUNDED.

BUT YOU TAKE AWAY, YOU CAN'T

DRIVE THE CAR OR SOMETHING.

BIGGEST THING IS, DO YOU LOVE

GOD?

WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG, YOU TEACH

THEM TO LOVE THE LORD.

I HAVE THE FAMOUS STORY OF MY

OLDER DAUGHTER WHO IS JUST

PRECIOUS.

SHE IS -- I JUST HAD THE JOY

OF SEEING DAUGHTER MARRY.

WHEN SHE WAS A TEENAGER SHE WAS

GOING TO THIS PLACE AND DO

EVANGELISM.

IT WAS A NUTTY IDEA.

SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE A BIG

SCENE.

I SAID DARLING, GO ASK THE LORD

SEE WHAT HE TELLS YOU.

IF HE SAYS IT IS OKAY.

IT IS ALL RIGHT WITH ME.

[LAUGHTER].

I SAID GO UP STAIRS AND PRAY.

ABOUT 15 MINUTES SHE CAME DOWN

SHE SAID HE SAID DON'T GO.

I SAID OKAY.

DON'T GO.

TERRY: THERE YOU GO.

PAT: I WAS OUT OF THE

EQUATION.

SHE WAS ASKING THE LORD.

SHE KNEW THE LORD LOVED HER AND

CARED FOR HER.

THAT IS WHAT WE DO WITH

CHILDREN.

THE SOONER YOU CAN GET THEM IN

A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS WHERE

THEY ARE BEING LED BY THE HOLY

SPIRIT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY

ABOUT QUOTE DISCIPLINE AND

COMING DOWN ON THEM HARD AND

ALL THAT STUFF.

YOU KNOW.

TERRY: IT DOESN'T NEED TO

BE DONE.

THIS IS MARIAH, I SAW YOU

ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT TAROT

CAR CARDS, YOU SAID IT WAS

WRONG, IS GOING TO CHRISTIAN

PSYCHIC WRONG AS WELL?

PAT: NO SUCH THING AS A

CHRISTIAN PSYCHIC.

IT IS AN --

TERRY: OXYMORON.

PAT: THERE IS NO SUCH THING

AS CHRISTIAN PSYCHIC.

THERE IS NOT.

THE BIBLE SAYS WILL YOU TURN TO

SPIRITS THAT PEEP AND MUTTER

AND NOT TO THE LIVING GOD.

WE SHOULD TURN TO GOD AND HIS

WORD TO FIND THE ANSWERS NOT

SOME SUPERSPIRITUAL PSYCHIC.

GOD DOESN'T WANT US DEALING

WITH -- THE WORD PSYCHE COMES

FROM SOUL, SUKAI.

WE HAVE PSYCHIC THINGS, NO

QUESTION ABOUT IT.

WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH

THE SPIRIT.

WE ARE TO BE LED BY THE HOLY

SPIRIT WITH OUR SPIRIT NOT BE

THE PSYCHE.

THAT IS THE FLESHLY PART OF OUR

BEING IS WHERE THAT COMES FROM,

THE NATURAL MAN.

THE BIBLE SAYS NATURAL MAN

RECEIVES NOT THE -- THE WORD IS

SUKAI.

SO WHY WOULD YOU GO TO SOMEBODY

WHO CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN

SUKAI.

DON'T DO IT.

TOMORROW WE HAVE IRISH TENORS.

MY GOODNESS.

YOU ARE GOING TO ENJOY THIS.

THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN

THE STUDIO SINGING.

TODAY WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE YOU

WITH AN ORIGINAL CHRISTMAS SONG

BY A GROUP CALLED FOR KING AND

COUNTRY, SONG IS CALLED "BABY

BOY."

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