A NATION DIVIDED.
[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ] WHY SOME
IN FRANCE HAVE DECLARED WAR ON
THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
IT IS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL.
PLUS...
YOU JUST START WONDERING,
WHY AM I HERE.
WHEN YOUR DAD TELLS YOU SEVERAL
TIMES YOU ARE A MISTAKE.
YOU WONDER AM I A MISTAKE.
THIS LIE HAUNTED HIM HIS
ENTIRE LIVE ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB."
Pat: WELCOME TO THIS EDITION
OF "700 CLUB." WE ARE CLOSER TO
THE FISCAL CLIFF AND NEARER TO
CHRISTMAS.
WHETHER IT IS GOOD WILL OR BAD
WILL DEPENDS ON WHICH STORIES
YOU READ IN THE NEWSPAPERS.
ANOTHER THING THAT DOESN'T LOOK
TOO GOOD IS THE TERRORIST GROUP
HAMAS WHICH SEEMS TO BE GROWING
BOLDER THANKS TO THE ARAB
SPRING.
EXILE LEADER RETURNED TO GAZA
THIS WEEKEND AND RIGHT ON
QUEUE, HE IS VOWING TO DESTROY
ISRAEL.
TERRY: HAMAS CELEBRATED ITS
25TH ANNIVERSARY.
WHAT IS FUELING THE RADICAL
GROUP IS THE RISE OF MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD IN GAZA AND EGYPT.
CHRIS MITCHELL HAS MORE
REPORTER: SOME CALLED IT
THE BIGGEST RALLY IN THE
HISTORY OF GAZA.
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS GATHER TO
HEAR HAMAS POLITICAL LEADER
KHALED MESHAAL.
IT MARKED THE FIRST TIME IN 45
YEARS SINCE MESHAAL HAD BEEN IN
GAZA.
HE USED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
PLEDGE ISRAEL'S DESTRUCTION.
[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ]
PALESTINE WILL BE PALESTINE.
WE WILL NEVER SURRENDER THE
LAND, JERUSALEM, RIDE OF RETURN
OR OUR RIDE TO RESISTANCE.
WE WILL NOT LEAVE ANY INCH OF
PALESTINIAN LAND AND NEVER GIVE
UP ON ANY OF OUR RIGHTS.
ISRAELI PRESIDENT SHIMON
PERES RESPONDED TO MESHAAL'S
SPEECH.
THE REAL NATURE OF HAMAS, TO
KILL, TO CONQUER OR TO
COMPROMISE THE PEOPLE OF GAZA
CAN REMAIN POOR AND HUNGRY.
HAMAS'S IS A SIGN THEY FEEL
THEY WON THE RECENT WAR WITH
ISRAEL AND EM BOLDED AFTER THE
RISE OF MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IN
EGYPT AND REACH AN AGREEMENT
WITH PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY
PRESIDENT MAHMOUD ABBAS.
IN EGYPT THE CRISIS BETWEEN
OPPONENTS AND SUPPORTERS OF
EGYPTIAN PRESIDENT MORSI
CONTINUED.
MORSI AGREED TO RESEND PART OF
HIS AGREE THAT GAVE HIM ALMOST
ABSOLUTE POWER BUT DID NOT
AGREE TO STOP THE REFERENDUM
OVER THE NEW EGYPTIAN
CONSTITUTION.
THAT SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER
15TH.
IT WILL LEAD EGYPT TOWARDS AN
ISLAMIST STATE.
THEY HAVE CANCELLED PARTS
FROM THE CONSTITUTION.
THE VOTING WILL TAKE PLACE ON
THE 15TH.
WE ARE ALL HERE BECAUSE WE ARE
SAYING NO TO NONE OF US WANT
HIM TO RULE US.
BOTH MORSI AND HAMAS ARE
PART OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD
A GROUP THAT BEGAN IN 1928 WITH
THE GOAL OF OVERTHROWING
SECULAR ARAB GOVERNMENTS,
DESTROYING ISRAEL AND
ESTABLISHING AN ISLAMIC
CALIPHATE THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE
EAST.
THEY SEEM DETERMINED TO REACH
THOSE GOALS.
CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,
JERUSALEM.
PAT: THANKS, CHRIS.
I HOPE THE STATE DEPARTMENT IS
LISTENING TO WHAT YOU ARE
SAYING BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN
AN OBFUSCATION GOING ON IN
WASHINGTON TO MAKE THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD TO SEEM LIKE A
PARTNER FOR PEACE.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING.
IT IS A DEDICATED ISLAMIC PARTY
SEEKING TO ESTABLISH THE
CALIPHATE THROUGHOUT THE MIDDLE
EAST.
WHAT MORSI HAS TRIED INITIALLY,
HE HAS BACKED OFF A LITTLE BIT
FROM HIS DEMANDS, IN DEED HE
HAS.
THAT IS ONLY A FIG LEAF IN A
SENSE OF THE OVERALL REFERENDUM
HE IS ASKING THE EGYPTIAN
PEOPLE TO APPROVE.
HOPEFULLY THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH
TO TURN HIM DOWN.
AS CHRIS MENTIONED, EGYPT'S NEW
CONSTITUTION WOULD HARM
CHRISTIANS AND OTHER NORTDS.
LEE WEB TAKES A FURTHER LOOK AT
WHAT IS GOING ON, HERE IS LEE.
REPORTER: PAT, A PROMINENT
EGYPTIAN PASTOR SAYS COPTIC
CHRISTIANS ARE TERRIFIED.
DR. MICHAEL YOUSSEF MOVED TO
THE U.S. IN 70S AND NOW SENIOR
PASTOR OF ONE OF ATLANTA'S
LARGEST CHURCHES AND RECENTLY
SPOKE TO HIM.
I WAS READING THROUGH ALL
THE ITEMS THEY HAVE CHANGED.
THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY HAVE
DESTROYED THE RIGHTS OF
MINORITIES AND WOMEN AND
SERVITUDE, IT IS JUST, IT IS
LITERALLY GOING BACK TO THE
DARK AGES.
INSTEAD OF MOVING ON WITH
MODERN TIMES.
A CHRISTIAN LEADER, WE ARE
BETWEEN THE ROCK AND A HARD
PLACE.
EVEN IF THE CONSTITUTION, THE
REFERENDUM DOES NOT PASS, GOING
TO RIG IT.
THEY ARE GOING TO SAY IT
PASSED.
REPORTER: DR. YOUSSEF WENT
ON TO BLAME THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
YOU CAN SEE THE INTERINTERVIEW
I DID WITH MICHAEL YOUSSEF AT
CBNNEWS.COM.
SIGNS OF PROGRESS THIS WEEKEND
IN THE EFFORT TO KEEP AMERICA
FROM PLUNGE OVER THE FISCAL
CLIFF IN 21 DAYS, PRESIDENT AND
HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER MET
FACE TO FACE FOR THE FIRST TIME
IN A MONTH.
THERE IS TALK OF COMPROMISE.
SOME GOP LAWMAKERS ARE OPEN TO
RAISING TAXES ON HIGHER INCOME
EARNERS IF DEMOCRATS CONSIDER
HOLDING THE TOP RATE BELOW 39.6
PERCENT AND ONE LEADING
DEMOCRAT IS PUTTING MEDICARE ON
THE TABLE.
I DO BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE
MEANS TESTING AND THOSE WITH
HIGHER INCOME AND RETIREMENT
SHOULD PAY MORE.
THAT COULD BE PART OF THE
SOLUTION.
SOME LAWMAKERS BELIEVE THERE
NEEDS TO BE CONGRESSIONAL
APROOUCHLT BY THE END OF THE
YEAR.
COULD BE ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT SUPREME COURT RULINGS
IN U.S. HISTORY.
BOTH SIDES ARE WORRIED.
ONE CONSERVATIVE COLUMNIST
BELIEVES OPPOSITION TO GAY
MARRIAGE IS DYING OFF.
CHARLENE ISRAEL HAS THAT STORY.
REPORTER: THE SUPREME
COURT'S ANNOUNCEMENT FRIDAY
THAT IT WOULD HEAR TWO CASES
CHALLENGING LAWS PROHIBITING
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS ONE OF THE
MOST CONTENTIOUS DEBATES IN
AMERICA.
THE ELECTION PROVES OPPOSITION
TO GAY MARRIAGE IS COMING TO AN
END.
THERE IS AN EMERGING
CONSENSUS, THE OPPOSITION TO
GAY MARRIAGE IS DYING.
IT IS OLD PEOPLE.
HUNDREDS OF HOMOSEXUAL
COUPLES LINED UP TO COLLECT
MARRIAGE LICENSES AFTER THE
GOVERNOR SIGNED OFF ON THE
VOTER APPROVED LAW LEGALIZING
GAY MARRIAGE.
SOME BELIEVE THE SUPREME COURT
COULD UPHOLD CALIFORNIA'S BAN
ON SAME SEX UNIONS.
THEY SEE 41 REASONS TO BE
CONCERNED.
WHILE NINE STATES ALLOW
SAME-SEX PARTNERS TO MARRY OR
WILL SOON, 41 DO NOT OF THOSE,
THEY HAVE WRITTEN BANS.
WE WERE HOPING THE SUPREME
COURT WOULDN'T TAKE THE PROP 8
CASE IN WHICH CASE WE COULD GET
MARRIED PRETTY SOON.
IT MEANS MORE WAITING.
COURT WILL DECIDE
CALIFORNIA'S PROPOSITION 8 BAN
ON GAY MARRIAGE AS WELL AS
DEFENSIVE MARRIAGE ACT A
FEDERAL LAW THAT PROVIDES TAX
BREAKS TO LEGALLY MARRIAGES.
I EXPECT FOUR OR FIVE
JUSTICES TO UPHOLD PROPOSITION
8
WHY?
BECAUSE THE CONSTITUTION OF THE
UNITED STATES DOESN'T HAVE
MARRIAGE.
10TH AMENDMENT SAYS IT BELONGS
TO THE STATES.
OTHERS FEAR A FEDERAL MANDATE
FOR ALL 50 STATES.
ULTIMATE QUESTION IS WHETHER
THE SUPREME COURT IS READY TO
ISSUE WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A ROE
V. WADE OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE TO
ACTUALLY DECLARE THAT IT IS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR ANY STATE
TO LIMIT MARRIAGE TO UNIONS OF
ONE MINNESOTA AND ONE WOMAN.
CHARLENE ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.
REPORTER: BATTLE OVER
CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS IN
NORTHERN VIRGINIA, OOET R EACH
YEAR LOUDEN HAS A DISPLAY.
LOCAL ATHEISTS ARE FIGHTING TO
HAVE A PERMANENT HOLIDAY
DISPLAY OF THEIR OWN.
REZ DEPENDENTS ON BOTH SIDES
ARE SPEAKING OUT.
AS A PARENT IT MAKES IT MORE
DIFFICULT BECAUSE I HAVE TO
HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH MY
CHILDREN THEY ARE NOT READY TO
HAVE.
PERSONALLY, I TAKE A MORE
TRADITIONALIST VIEW.
I WOULD RATHER SEE ONE TOWN
DISPLAY.
IT IS GREAT TO SEE BOTH ENDS
OF THE SPECTRUM.
WHY NOT HAVE EVERYONE DISPLAYED?
I AM FOR EVERYBODY.
REPORTER: COUNTY OFFICIALS
HAVING TWRIEING TO RESOLVE THIS
FOR YEARS.
AN IRANIAN CHRISTIAN THREATENED
WITH EXPULSION, REZA JABBARI IS
A CONVERT FROM ISLAM.
HE MOVED TO SWEDEN AND APPLIED
FOR ASYLUM.
OUR COVERAGE OF HIS STORY AND
YOUR RESPONSE HELPED PLACE
PRESSURE ON SWEDISH OFFICIALS.
THEY HALTED THE DEPORTATION
ORDER AND GRANTED JABBARI A NEW
HEARING.
HE AND HIS PASTOR ASKED WE
SHARE THIS VIDEO WITH YOU.
I WANT TO SAY A SPECIAL
THANKS FOR CBN CHILD, THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE BY THE CBN
CHILD ACTING IN THE INTERNET.
WE DON'T THINK IT COULD HAVE
BEEN DONE WITHOUT YOUR HELP.
REPORTER: JABBARI'S LAWYER
HOPES HE WILL HAVE PERMANENT
RESIDENCY SOON, PAT.
PAT: THAT IS NICE.
APPARENTLY IT HAS AN IMPACT.
TERRY: THIS IS A TIME WHEN
WE FIND OUT THERE IS SOMETHING
THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND
JUSTICE GOT BEHIND THE RELEASE
OF THE PASTOR THE IRANIANS
SCHEDULED FOR EXECUTION BECAUSE
HE REFUSED TO GIVE UP HIS
CHRISTIAN BELIEFS.
CLEAR CASE OF RELIGIOUS
PERSECUTION.
OUTCRY, THE ACLJ WAS TALKING
AND BEFORE LONG THE STATE
DEPARTMENT BEGAN TO TALK.
AFTER A WHILE THE IRANIANS
BACKED DOWN.
I WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE
THESE FIGHTS ALL THE TIME.
LOOKS LIKE WE ARE UNDER ASSAULT.
THE BIBLE SAYS THE GATES OF
HELL SHOULD NOT PREVAIL AGAINST
IT.
GATES DON'T MOVE.
WE MOVE AGAINST GATES.
WE OUGHT TO BE BATTERING DOWN
THE GATES OF UNBELIEF AND
UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.
WE ARE ALWAYS ON THE DEFENSIVE.
THAT IS NOT A POSTURE I LIKE.
TERRY?
TERRY: COMING UP, THE
PUBLICITY STUNT THAT SHOCKED A
NATION, WHY THESE FRENCH YOUNG
PEOPLE STORMED A MOSQUE AND
RELEASED A DECLARATION OF WAR
IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY.
COULD THIS HAPPEN IN AMERICA?
THAT IS THE QUESTION COMING UP.
A NEW TWIST ON AN OLD WAY OF
HOW TO PUT CHRIST BACK INTO
CHRISTMAS.
STAY TUNED FOR ALL OF THAT.
THEY HAVE BEEN AROUND THE
WORLD, NOW THEY ARE COMING TO
OUR STUDIO, HEAR A LIVE
PERFORMANCE FROM THE I RISH
TENORS.
FIND OUT WHY THIS SCHOOL TURNED
DOWN A MULTIMILLION DOLLAR
CAMPUS AND WHY IT IS CALLED A
MODEL FOR HIGHER EDUCATION.
THEN SHE IS A ROAD SCHOLAR,
SILVER MEDAL SKIER AND NAMED
ONE OF THE MOST INSPIRING WOMEN
IN AMERICA, MEET BONI ST. JOHN
ON THE "700 CLUB."
PAT: WE HAVE TOLD YOU HERE
ABOUT HOW THE ISLAMIC PEOPLE
ARE TRYING TO OVERTAKE FRANCE
AND CHANGE FRANCE INTO A MUSLIM
COUNTRY.
THE NATION OF FRANCE IS
BREAKING DOWN STEADILY FALLING
INTO THE HANDS OF ISLAM.
AS WE HAVE BEEN SOUNDING THAT
ALARM ON THE ONGOING MUSLIM
TAKE OVER NOW AS DALE HURD
REPORTERS A NEW GENERATION IS
RISING UP, FIGHTING TO TAKE
BACK THEIR COUNTRY.
WATCH THIS.
REPORTER: IT WAS A POLITICAL
PROTEST WITH SHOCK VALUE, THE
LIKES OF WHICH HAS NEVER BEEN
SEEN ON FRENCH TV NEWS, A GROUP
OF YOUNG PEOPLE STORMED A
MOSQUE GOING TO THE ROOF
CALLING FOR A NATIONAL
REFERENDUM ON MUSLIM
IMMIGRATION.
BAN INCLUDED NUMBER 732, THE
YEAR CHARLES MARTEL DEFEATED
THEM.
GENERATION IDENTITAIRE.
THEY SAY THEY ARE AT WAR WITH
THE 68ERS, THE BABY BOOMERS WHO
RUN FRANCE FOR WRECKING THEIR
FUTURE WITH MULTICULTURAL
POLICIES THAT SOME FEAR ARE
TURNING FRANCE INTO A MUSLIM
NATION.
THEY RELEASED THIS VIDEO CALLED
"A DECLARATION OF WAR."
[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ] THEIR
RHETORIC SOUNDS RACIST, THEY DO
NOT BELIEVE IN RACIAL
SUPERIORITY OR RACIAL
STEREOTYPES.
THEY FEAR LOSING FRANCE TO
MUSLIM IMMIGRANTS FROM AFRICA.
I TALKED WITH A LEADER OF THE
GROUP IN THE SOUTHERN CITY OF
TOULON.
IT IS ABOUT LOVING OUR
PEOPLE AND OUR LAND.
WE FIGHT FOR THIS.
GENERATION IDENTITAIRE IS A
SYMPTOM OF A NATION COMING
UNGLUED.
IT IS A PREDICTABLE BY-PRODUCT
OF FAILED MULTICULTURALISM IT
HAS CREATED ETHNIC TRIBALISM
AND DANGEROUS NO-GO ZONES
SENSITIVE URBAN ZONES BY THE
GOVERNMENT.
ASSIMILATION IS NOW
IMPOSSIBLE IN FRANCE.
IT WAS POSSIBLE WHEN IMMIGRANTS
CAME FROM EUROPEAN COUNTRIES
BECAUSE THEY ARE LIKE US.
THE FRENCH REPUBLIC WHICH IS
SUPPOSED TO BE SECULAR HAS
ACTIVELY HELPED MUSLIMS BUILD
MOSQUES AND SPREAD SHARIA LAW.
MOST ARE ALARMED.
ONE OF FRANCE'S LEADING WRITERS
SAYS FRANCE IS COLUMNIZED WITH
THE HELP OF THE GOVERNMENT AND
MEDIA.
HE CALLS IT THE GREAT
REPLACEMENT.
IT IS VERY SIMPLE EITHER YOU
HAVE ONE PEOPLE IN A COUNTRY
AND IN THE PLACE OF ONE
GENERATION YOU HAVE DIFFERENT
PEOPLE.
FRANCE IS BEING COLONIZED?
YES, YES.
KUMU ACCUSED THE FRENCH
MEDIA OF COVERING UP THE
SITUATION BECAUSE OF POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS.
THE ISLAMIZATION THEY SEE
HAPPENING WITH THEIR OWN EYES
IS NOT HAPPENING.
TELEVISION IS SAYING
EVERYDAY AND SCHOOL IS SAYING
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS NOT
HAPPENING.
IT IS ALL IN YOUR HEAD.
IT IS NOT USUAL.
PRACTICALLY EVERY WEEK CATHOLIC
CHURCHES ARE ATTACKED AND
PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING STONES.
SO NO THIS IS NOT HAPPENING, IT
IS NOT IMPORTANT OR IF THEY
CAN'T DENY IT IS HAPPENING.
THIS IS THE RESULT.
GENERATION IDENTITAIRE IS
UPSET THEIR FUTURE HAS BEEN
LOOTED BY THE BABY BOOMER'S OUT
OF CONTROL SPENDING.
[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ] GENERATION
IDENTITAIRE MEMBER ORL LEE IS
ANGRY WITH BABY BOOMERS WHO
HAVE LEFT A MESS TO HER
GENERATION.
BECAUSE THEY HAD EVERYTHING.
THEY HAD THE COOL JOB.
THEY HAD -- IT WAS EASY AT THE
TIME TO BUY A FLAT OR HOUSE.
THEIR CHILDREN WERE SECURE.
AND THEY TAKE EVERYTHING FROM
US.
SHE TOO NO LONGER BELIEVES
IN CULTURAL ASSIMILATION.
WE CAN'T LIVE TOGETHER.
WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME WAY OF
LIFE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE SAME VALUES.
WE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON.
NOTHING.
MANY BELIEVE FRANCE IS ON A
TRAJECTORY TOWARD MORE SOCIAL
IMMIGRATION AND SOME DAY CIVIL
WAR.
THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IT
IS A FIGHT TO THE DEATH.
IT IS A MATTER OF SURVIVAL.
SEEMS LIKELY GROUPS BASED ON
ETHNIC IDENTITY, LIKE
GENERATION IDENTITAIRE WILL
CONTINUE TO ATTRACT MORE AND
MORE FOLLOWERS, DALE HURD, CBN
NEWS, IN TOULON, FRANCE.
PAT: INTERESTING THESE
GENERATION X'ERS OR Y'S ARE
TURNING AGAINST THEIR PARENTS
SAYING YOU HAVE LOOTED OUR
FUTURE.
IT IS TRUE.
THE OBAMA GENERATION IS LOOTING
THE FUTURE OF THE KIDS.
THESE UNCONSCIONABLE DEFICITS.
SPENDING FOR WASTEFUL PRODUCTS
IS LOOTING THE FUTURE OF THE
YOUNG.
WE DON'T HAVE THOSE
DEMONSTRATIONS HERE IN AMERICA
LIKE FRANCE.
WE WILL OR SHOULD.
TERRY: WHAT STARTS IN
EUROPE USUALLY MAKES ITS WAY
HERE.
PEOPLE NOW, WE HAVE JUST WHAT
THEY HAVE WHICH IS PEOPLE
MOVING INTO OUR COUNTRY TO
RE-ESTABLISH AND COLONIZE
RATHER THAN TO BECOME AMERICANS
AND ENJOY THE FREEDOM WE ALL
ENJOY.
PAT: AMAZING, IT IS NOT
MUSLIM IDENTITY.
THEY SHOULD BE ASSIMILATED AS
FRENCH SPEAKING PEOPLE SAME
THING IN AMERICA.
PEOPLE COME FROM ALL OVER THE
WORLD AND BECOME AMERICANS.
THAT IS WHAT WE WANT.
IT IS FIEB FINE.
TO COME HERE AND COLONIZE AS
ISLAMISTS HOPING TO TAKE
AMERICA INTO SHARIA LAW AND
SUBJUGATE US, THAT IS NOT
WHAT WE WANT.
VERY INTERESTING, DALE HURD,
SUBURB.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOU WON'T
SEE THIS ON ANY OTHER
TELEVISION NETWORK.
TERRY.
TERRY: UP NEXT, THE STORY
BEHIND THE X IN XMAS AND
PROBABLY NOT WHAT YOU THINK.
PLUS MEET A MAN WHO
MIRACULOUSLY WAS HEALED OF
DYSLEXIA.
ALL OF THAT WHEN WE COME BACK.
TERRY: MANY CHRISTIANS
AVOID WRITING XMAS LIKE THE
PLAGUE.
THEY ASSUME IT IS A WAY OF
TAKING CHRIST OUT OF THE WORD
CHRISTMAS.
THAT IS NOT SO ACCORDING TO
AUTHOR ACE COLLINS.
HE SAYS THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
HERE IS WHY.
CHRISTMAS YOU SEE IT
ABBREVIATED AS XMAS.
ARE WE GOING BACK TO AN OLD
TRADITION?
A LOT OF PEOPLE GET UPSET.
THEY THINK YOU ARE TAKING
CHRIST OUT OF CHRISTMAS.
X IS THE FIRST LETTER OF
CHRIST'S NAME IN GREEK.
IN THE OLD DAYS WHEN A
CHRISTIAN WAS MARTYRED PEOPLE
GO UP ON THE STREET AND THE
BODY WAS TAKEN OFF AND DRAW AN
X ON THE SPOT TO REPRESENT A
CHRISTIAN DIED HERE FOR HIS
FAITH.
FOR 1500 YEARS, THE CHURCH
WROTE CHRISTMAS AS XMAS.
REALLY?
WORSHIP CHRIST.
X THEY COULD READ AS CHRIST'S
NAME.
SECONDLY, PAPER AND INK WERE IN
SHORT SUPPLY.
ABBREVIATED ANYTHING THEY COULD.
THIS WAS LIKE AN EARLY FORM OF
TEXTING.
XMAS.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT IT WAS NOT
TAKING CHRIST OUT OF CHRISTMAS
BUT KEEPING CHRIST IN CHRISTMAS.
WE CAN USE IT AS A WORSHIP AND
WITNESSING TOOL TODAY.
WE CAN TELL PEOPLE THE HISTORY
OF XMAS AND SHOW THEM IT IS
PUTTING CHRIST INTO CHRISTMAS.
TERRY: ACE COLLINS HAS
WRITTEN "STORIES BEHIND THE
TRADITIONS OF CHRISTMAS" IT IS
FASCINATING AND AVAILABLE
WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.
PAT: VERY INTERESTING.
THE GREEK KI IS CAIRO, YOU SEE
THAT IN THE OLD CHURCH SYMBOLS,
CAIRO, FIRST TWO LETTER OF
CHRIS TUS, THEN FISH AS THE
SYMBOL THAT WAS FROM ICHTHYS,
JESUS CHRIST, GOD AND SAVIOR.
THEY BEGUN TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
THOSE WERE.
XMAS IS NOT DENIGRATING JESUS.
CHRISTMAS COULD BE A VOLATILE
TIME AT CHARLES NIXON'S HOUSE.
CHARLES NEVER KNEW WHEN HIS DAD
WOULD COME HOME DRUNK, PULL A
GUN ON HIS FAMILY AND ASK WHICH
ONE OF YOU SHOULD I KILL?
WHEN CHARLES NIXON WAS A
CHILD HIS FATHER TOLD HIM HE
WAS A MISTAKE.
I GREW UP IN A HOME WHERE
ALCOHOL FLOWED QUITE REGULARLY.
I HAD A GOOD DAD EXCEPT FOR WEN
HE HAD TOO MUCH ALCOHOL.
HE WOULD TURN MEAN.
MY FATHER WOULD COME HOME DRUNK
AND PULL OUT A GUN AND SAY
WHICH SHOULD I KILL?
THIS WENT ON REGULARLY WHEN I
GREW UP.
AS A CHILD I HAD NIGHTMARES.
IS HE GOING TO COME IN AT NIGHT
WHEN YOU ARE SLEEPING AND KILL
YOU?
NO ONE EVER TOLD CHARLES
ABOUT GOD.
HE KNEW WHAT HIS PARENTS WERE
DOING WAS WRONG.
I KNEW MY PARENTS WERE
HAVING PARTIES AND USING THE
LORD'S NAME IN VAIN.
I PRAYED TO GOD TO FORGIVE THEM.
NO ONE TOLD ME ABOUT JESUS.
EVEN WHEN YOU ARE LITTLE, YOU
KNOW GOD EXISTS.
MEN WERE ALL HEAVY DRINKERS
AND TOBACCO USERS AND
INTRODUCED THEM TO CHARLES AT
AN EARLY AGE.
AT SIX AN UNCLE INTRODUCED
ME TO CHEWING TOBACCO AND
DRINKING AT 12.
THE MEN IN MY FAMILY, YOU
DRINK, USE TOBACCO, CHASE WOMEN.
SO THESE WERE THE THINGS I
THOUGHT MADE YOU INTO A MAN AND
MADE YOU VALUABLE.
EMOTIONAL ABUSE FROM
CHARLES' FATHER TOOK ITS TOLL.
YOU START WONDERING, AM I
MISTAKE?
WHY AM I HERE?
AT SCHOOL CHARLES ALSO
DISCOVERED HE HAD DYSLEXIA.
WHEN I WAS REAL YOUNG, I
WROTE A PAPER.
A TEACHER SAID THAT IS FUNNY.
I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.
AS WE WENT ALONG, SHE TOOK IT
TO ANOTHER TEACHER.
THEY WERE SNICKERING AND
LAUGHING, LOOK WHAT HE IS DOING.
HE MUST BE STUPID OR SOMETHING.
I WAS BEING TOLD I WAS A
MISTAKE AND REALIZING YOU CAN'T
READ OR WRITE.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
I MIGHT AS WELL QUIT SCHOOL.
CHARLES DROPPED OUT AT 15.
THAT YEAR HE MARRIED AND BECAME
A FATHER.
THE MARRIAGE DIDN'T LAST LONG.
BY 21 SHE LEFT ME.
WE WERE BOTH TOO LONG.
YOU CAN'T BUILD YOUR LIFE ON
DRINKING AND GOING TO BARS.
IT JUST DOZEN WORK.
SINCE HE WAS FUNCTIONALLY
ILLITERATE, CHARLES WAS HEADED
FOR LOW WAGE JOBS AND POVERTY.
I NEVER THOUGHT I HAD A
FUTURE.
I WAS WORKING TO BUY ALCOHOL
AND FIND THE NEXT PARTY.
THE FRIENDS I HAD WERE BAR
FRIENDS IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE BEER
OR MONEY, THEY WEREN'T AROUND
TO HELP YOU OUT.
IT IS A SAD, SAD WAY TO LIVE.
SEEMS LIKE YOU ARE HAVING A
GOOD TIME AND THE PARTY IS
ALWAYS GOING.
WHEN YOU WAKE UP AND FEELING
BROKEN AND HORRIBLE, YOU
REALIZE, THIS AIN'T NO WAY TO
LIVE.
THEN YOU DRINK AGAIN BECAUSE
YOU WANT TO FILL THAT VOID.
FINALLY CHARLES HIT BOTTOM.
I REMEMBER ONE NIGHT AFTER
DRINKING AND GETTING DRUNK AND
GOT IN A FIGHT IN A BAR, I WAS
LYING IN BED, LORD, GOD IF YOU
ARE REAL, SHOW YOURSELF TO ME.
IF YOU BRING SOMEBODY INTO MY
LIFE TO SHOW ME YOU ARE REAL.
THAT SOMEBODY WAS JAMIE.
SHE HAD WENT TO CHURCH ONE
MORNING AND SHE ACCEPTED THE
LORD.
SO LATER THAT DAY AS WE WERE
TOGETHER IN THE KITCHEN OF HER
HOUSE SHE SAID I GOT SAVED.
FROM WHAT?
SHE SAID I AM BORN AGAIN.
HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND?
SHE WOULD SPEND HOURS READING
OUT LOUD OUT OF THE OLD
TESTAMENT.
SHE WENT WITH FRIENDS AND I WAS
SITTING THERE AND WENT TO THE
FRIDGE AND GOT A BEER.
I TURNED ON THE TV.
A CHRISTIAN CHANNEL.
THERE WAS A PASTOR ON TV
TALKING ABOUT WHY WE NEED A
SAVIOR.
HE WAS SAYING HAVE YOU EVER
LIED?
HAVE YOU EVER STOLEN SOMETHING?
I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, WAIT A
MINUTE, HE IS TALKING ABOUT ME.
IT ALL CLICKED THAT I NEEDED A
SAVIOR.
THAT NIGHT CHARLES ALSO
ACCEPTED JESUS.
FROM THAT POINT ON, I WAS
DELIVERED FROM THE CHAINS, THE
ALCOHOL, LIFE STYLE I WAS
LIVING.
HE THEN BOUGHT A CHILDREN'S
BIBLE AND BEGAN READING FROM
THE NEW TESTAMENT.
IT DIDN'T TAKE ME LONG UNTIL
I WAS IN THE NORMAL BIBLE.
TODAY CHARLES READS NORMALLY
AND NO SIGNS OF DYSLEXIA.
THE LORD BLESSED ME WHERE I
CAN RETAIN SCRIPTURES, TODAY I
AM AN ORDAINED PASTOR.
TOOK A GUY THAT COULD BARELY
READ AND NOW I AM PREACHING THE
GOSPEL.
IT WAS A TOTAL MIRACLE.
CHARLES AND JAMIE WROTE A
BOOK TOGETHER ABOUT THEIR
EXPERIENCE.
TODAY THEY ARE MARRIED WITH A
HAPPY BLENDED FAMILY.
BIBLE SAYS JEREMIAH 29:11 I
HAVE PLANS TO GIVE YOU HOPE AND
A FUTURE.
HE LOOKS AT US AND SAYS YOU ARE
NOT A MISTAKE.
I MADE YOU THE WAY I WANTED AND
I CAN USE YOU.
CHARLES SAYS HE KNOWS WHAT
IT IS TO BE A MAN.
A THOUGHT BEING A MAN WAS
TO BE MEAN AND TOUGH AND DRINK.
WHAT IT TAKES IS HAVING A
RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS CHRIST.
THAT HE WILL MAKE YOU THE MAN
YOU NEED TO BE.
PAT: DID ANYBODY TELL YOU
YOU WERE A MISTAKE?
DID YOUR PARENTS MAKE YOU FEEL
UNLOVED?
WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP, WERE
YOU NEGLECTED, REJECTED?
DID SOME TEACHER EMBARRASS YOU
IN SCHOOL AND MAKE YOU FEEL
LIKE YOU WERE STUPID?
THERE WAS A TIME IN THE OLD
DAYS WHEN A KID WOULD SIT UP IN
FRONT OF THE CLASS WITH A DUNCE
CAP HUMILIATING EMBARRASSMENT.
DID THAT HAPPEN TO ANY OF YOU?
HAVE YOU HAD THE FEELING OF
REJECTION NOBODY WANTED MOE?
YOUR PARENTS OR FATHER TOLD YOU
YOU WERE WORTHLESS, NO GOOD,
GOOD FOR NOTHING, NEVER WOULD
SUCCEED DIDN'T HAVE PLANS FOR
YOU, YOU WERE A KNOT HEAD,
KNUCKLE HEAD, BONE HEAD?
ANYBODY SAY THAT TO YOU.
I BET THAT IS TRUE.
A LOT OF THEM, THOSE WOUNDS ARE
DEEP DOWN INSIDE.
I TELL YOU WHAT, GOD SAYS ABOUT
THOSE PARENTS, YOUR OLD MAN IS
A LIAR.
I HAVE SOMETHING BETTER FOR YOU.
I HAVE A PLAN FOR YOU.
I HAVE A PLAN TO GIVE YOU A
FUTURE AND HOPE.
THAT IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS IN
JEREMIAH.
TO GIVE YOU A FUTURE AND HOPE
GOD HAS SOMETHING WONDERFUL
AHEAD, SOMETHING BEYOND BELIEF.
EYE HASN'T SEEN, EAR HASN'T
HEARD IT NEITHER HAS IT ENTERED
INTO THE HEART OF MAN.
RIGHT NOW HE SAYS IF YOU WILL
ALLOW ME TO COME INTO YOUR
HEART I WILL CHANGE YOU.
I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE A CHILD OF A KING
AND TO REIGN AND RULE WITH GOD
ALL MIGHTY.
IF YOU WANT THAT, I WANT YOU TO
PRAY WITH ME RIGHT NOW.
WHEREVER YOU ARE, PRAY THESE
WORDS AND PRAY, LORD, JESUS
CHRIST I BELIEVE THAT YOU DIED
ON THE CROSS FOR ME AND THAT
YOU ROSE AGAIN, THAT I MIGHT
LIVE FOREVER.
SO I REJECT THE NEGATIVITY THAT
HAS SURROUNDED ME FOR MUCH OF
MY LIFE.
I TURN TO YOUR PROMISES AND I
SAY LORD COME INTO MY HEART.
I WANT TO BE THE CHILD OF GOD
THAT YOUR WORD TELLS ME I
SHOULD BE.
I RECEIVE YOU NOW AS SAVIOR AND
I MAKE YOU LORD OF MY LIFE.
THANK YOU, LORD THAT YOU HAVE
HEARD MY PRAYER AND THANK YOU
THAT YOU HAVE COME IN TO MY
HEART.
IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME JUST
THEN, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT
GOD HAS RECEIVED YOU AND LOVES
YOU AND YOU HAVE A FUTURE AHEAD
OF YOU.
NOW JUST TO HELP YOU GET
STARTED, I DID SOMETHING
SEVERAL YEARS AGO I THINK WILL
HELP YOU.
I DID A DETAILED STUDY OF WHAT
HAPPENS TO YOU AND WHAT THE
BIBLE SAYS ABOUT IT.
IT IS A LITTLE COMPACT DISK
CALLED "A NEW DAY".
I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU FREE IF
YOU WANT IT.
YOU SAY I PRAYED WITH PAT, WHAT
HAPPENS NEXT?
THIS LITTLE BOOK HAS SCRIPTURE
STUFF IN IT.
ALL FOR FREE.
NOTHING WHATSOEVER.
IT WON'T COST YOU A CENT.
CALL RIGHT NOW, SAY I PRAYED
WITH PAT.
I HAVE GIVEN MY HEART TO THE
LORD.
IT IS A NEW DAY FOR ME.
I AM FREE FROM THOSE NEGATIVE
IMPULSES THAT WERE SURROUNDING
ME FOR SO MANY YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN SET FREE, I AM A
CHILD OF GOD.
CALL IN, TOLL FREE NUMBER,
1-800-759-0700.
EASY TO REMEMBER, PICK UP YOUR
PHONE, SOMEBODY IS HERE WHO
LOVES YOU.
SAY I PRAYED TODAY, I HAVE
GIVEN MY HEART TO JESUS.
THE ANGELS OF GOD ARE REJOICING
BECAUSE OF YOU.
WELL, TERRY HAS SOMETHING
INTERESTING.
WE ARE GOING TO SWITCH TO THE
UKRAINE TO TALK ABOUT GYPSIES,
TERRY?
TERRY: THAT'S RIGHT, PAD.
THEY ARE CALLED AROMA PEOPLE.
I AM TAKING YOU TO A GYPSY CAMP
IN UKRAINE WHERE 13 PEOPLE LIVE
IN A TENT.
LATER ON FOR KING AND COUNTRY,
SHARE A CHRISTMAS SONG WITH US.
REPORTER: WELCOME BACK TO
"700 CLUB." A MEMBER OF THE
ELITE SALE TEAM SIX KILLED
HELPING RESCUE AN AMERICAN
DOCTOR IN AFGHANISTAN.
DR. DILIP JOSEPH WAS WORKING
WITH MORNING STAR DEVELOPMENT.
MEMBERS OF THE TALIBAN CAPTURED
DR. JOSEPH AND TWO CO-WORKERS.
DR. JOSEPH REMAINED CAPTIVE FOR
THREE DAYS UNTIL SPECIAL FORCES
MADE THEIR DARING RESCUE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA PRAISED THE
SPECIAL OPERATOR SAYING HE GAVE
HIS LIFE FOR HIS FELLOW
AMERICANS.
CBN RAISING MONEY FOR A TRIBAL
VILLAGE ON THE THAI-BURMA
BORDER CAPTURING CHRISTMAS
SONGS AND AWARD WINNING CHOIR
AND PROFESSIONAL HARPIST.
TICKETS FOR ALL 500 SEATS SOLD
OUT.
CONCERT PROCEEDS GOING TO
PROVIDE FAMILIES WITH THE FREE
MEDICAL CLINIC, 700 MOSQUITO
NETS AND 400 WATER TANKS, 300
CHILDREN WILL RECEIVE FREE
CHRISTMAS GIFTS.
YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE BY
LOGGING ON TO
CBN.COM/INTERNATIONAL.
STICK AROUND, PAT AND TERRY
WILL BE BACK AFTER THIS.
TUESDAY, THEY HAVE BEEN
AROUND THE WORLD, NOW THEY ARE
COMING TO OUR STUDIOS, HEAR A
LIVE PERFORMANCE FROM I RISH
TENORS.
PLUS FIND OUT WHY THIS SCHOOL
TURNED DOWN A MULTIPLE DOLLAR
CAMPUS AND WHY IT IS BEING
CALLED A MODEL FOR HIGHER
EDUCATION.
THEN SHE IS A SILVER MEDAL
SKIER AND NAMED ONE OF THE MOST
INSPIRING WOMEN IN AMERICA.
MEET BONI ST. JOHN ON "700
CLUB."
TERRY: AS WE GET READY FOR
THE CHRISTMAS SEASON, WE ALL
NEED TO REMEMBER THE WORDS OF
JESUS, IT IS MORE BLESSED TO
GIVE THAN RECEIVE ESPECIALLY
WHEN WE ARE GIVING TO THOSE IN
NEED.
TAKE A LOOK.
TERRY: I AM HERE IN UKRAINE
IN A GYPSY CAMP.
THERE IS ALREADY A CHILL IN THE
AIR AND WINTER IS JUST AROUND
THE CORNER.
IF YOU SAW THIS TENT STANDING
HERE, YOU WOULD THINK IT IS A
LEFT OVER PLAY CAMP FROM
CHILDREN IN THE SUMMERTIME.
TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, THERE
ARE 13 PEOPLE LIVING INSIDE
THIS TENT.
THIS BOY IS SEVEN YEARS OLD.
THERE IS A TWO-MONTH-OLD BABY
HERE.
THEY ARE WET TO THE CORE.
IT IS A COLD RAINY DAY HERE.
THIS FAMILY IS DOING THEIR BEST
TO MAKE A LIVING.
THE DAD IS MAKE BASS KETS OUT
OF PIECES OF TWIG HE HAS
GATHERED FROM THE WOODS.
THE MOM IS GATHERING MUCH ROOMS
SO SHE CAN BRING FOOD HOME.
WHAT HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF
WINTER WHEN IT IS 20 BELOW
ZERO?
HOW DO THEY SURVIVE?
OUR GOAL IS BUILD A HOME TO
TAKE THEM OUT OF THE WINTER AND
HAVE A GOOD LIFE HERE IN
PORSHGOVAL.
TERRY: IT IS AMAZING THE
CHANGE A FEW SHORT WEEKS CAN
BRING.
WORKING WITH A CBN STAFF IN
UKRAINE, ORPHAN'S PROMISE WAS
ABLE TO BUILD A SHELTER FOR
THIS FAMILY.
A HOUSE MADE OF METAL WITH A
STRONG WOOD FLOOR AND THICK
LAYER OF INSULATION.
AIRTIGHT WINDOW AND DOOR ALONG
WITH A NEW WOOD BURNING STOVE
MAKES IT THE BEST HOME IN THIS
COMMUNITY.
WARM BLANKETS WILL KEEP THIS
FAMILY COMFORTABLE ALL WINTER.
MORE GOOD NEWS TO REPORT.
DURING MY VISIT, WE WERE
ALARMED OF THE CONDITION OF THE
TWO-MONTH-OLD BABY BOY WHO HAD
A COUGH AND TERRIBLE FEVER.
HIS MOM'S NURSING EFFORTS WERE
NOT ENOUGH.
WE GAVE HER FORMULA AND
MEDICINE FOR LITTLE PETRO.
HE IS NO LONGER SICK, HAS PUT
ON WEIGHT AND LOOKS MUCH
HEALTHIER.
IN FACT EVERYONE LOOKS HEALTH
YERP AND HAPPIER.
IN ADDITION TO THE FATHER'S
BASKET MAKING, WE HAVE PLANS TO
HELP THEM WITH A GARDEN OR
OTHER LIVELIHOOD THO SUSTAIN
THIS FAMILY.
IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF THIS,
THEY WERE A LITTLE BEWILDERED,
WHO WOULD GO TO SUCH GREAT
EFFORT TO HELP A FAMILY OF
GYPSIES.
THE PASTOR FROM A LOCAL CHURCH
TALKED OPENLY ABOUT HIS FAITH
AND WHY GOD CARED ENOUGH TO
BRING SOMEONE TO HELP THEM.
THE FAMILY HAS STARTED
ATTENDING THE CHURCH.
I THANK GOD FOR THE HELP YOU
HAVE GIVEN US.
I COULDN'T EVEN DREAM SOMEONE
WOULD GIVE US SUCH A HOUSE,
THANK YOU.
TERRY: THE REAL CHANGE IS
IN THE MONTHS TO COME AS THEY
LEARN MORE ABOUT GOD'S GRACE
AND LOVE AND EXPERIENCE HIS
ONGOING PROVISION FOR THEM.
TERRY: WE HAVE COME TO LOVE
THE GYPSY COMMUNITY TO SEE THE
HEART BREAK OF THE POVERTY THEY
LIVE IN, MOST OF THE ADULTS
FIND THEMSELVES ILLITERATE.
JOBS ARE DIFFICULT TO COME BY.
WE HAVE BUILT SCHOOLS, HELPING
KIDS TO BECOME EDUCATED.
THE FATHER WENT OUT INTO THE
WOODS AND MAKING BASKETS
CELLING THEM FOR 50 CENTS A
PIECE AND TRYING TO RAISE A
FAMILY, WIFE IN THE WOODS
COLLECTING MUSHROOMS.
THIRTEEN PEOPLE LIVING IN THE
TENT.
PAT: THE VISIONS WE HAVE OF
GYPSIES IN COSTUMES SINGING
MELODIES AND TELLING FORTUNES
ALL GLAMOROUS.
THERE WAS NO GLAMOUR
ANYWHERE.
WE ARE IN FIVE GYPSY CAMPS
DOING WORK.
I AM EXCITED TO SAY THE CHURCH
IS GROWING IN THOSE CAMPS
PEOPLE ARE COMING TO CHRIST.
WE HAVE TAKEN PEOPLE NOTARY
PUBLIC AND DONE SEMINARS TO
TEACH THEM HOW TO PLANT THEIR
OWN CROPS.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE TOOLS.
PAT: THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO
PLANT CROPS?
ARE YOU SERIOUS?
TERRY: NO.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO
BUY SEEDS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE
TOOLS TO TILL THE SOIL.
IT IS ALL DONE BY HAND.
THEY DON'T HAVE WHAT WE HAVE IN
TRACTORS AND PLOWS.
IT HAS BEEN AN INSIGHT.
FIRST CAMP HAD NO RUNNING WATER.
WE FINISHED A BATHHOUSE.
FAMILIES WILL BE ASSIGNED A DAY
OF THE WEEK WHERE THEY CAN
BATHE.
THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE
WANT YOU TO KNOW AS "700 CLUB"
MEMBERS LYOU HELP US?
SO MUCH NEED AROUND THE WORLD.
WE HAVE SOME BLESSINGS, $20 A
MONTH 65 CENTS A DAY. MAKES YOU
A "700 CLUB" MEMBER.
WE WANT TO SEND YOU PAT'S
TEACHING, "GOD'S PLAN FOR
AMERICA."LET'S NOT STOP NOW,
LINK ARMS TOGETHER, CALL OUR
TOLL FREE NUMBER,
1-800-759-0700.
YOU CAN LOG ON TO CBN.COM.
IF YOU ARE A "700 CLUB" MEMBER,
WATCH FOR THIS IN THE MAIL.
IT IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A
DIFFERENCE THIS CHRISTMAS.
INSIDE FOR YOU IS THIS
WONDERFUL BOOKLET CALLED "QUIET
MOMENTS IN HIS PRESENCE."
GREAT RECIPES.
PAT: AMEN P. WHAT IS NEXT?
TERRY: COMING UP, NEXT YOUR
E-MAIL QUESTIONS, PSALM 19:13,
KEEP BACK YOUR SERVANT FROM
PRESUMPTUOUS, WHAT IS THE
SIN OF PRESUMPTION?
TERRY: WE WANT TO TAKE TIME
TO ANSWER E-MAIL, THIS IS FROM
GLORIA, PAT, PSALM 19:13, KEEP
BACK YOUR SERVANT FROM PREM
SUMMIT SHOUS SINS, CAN IS THERE
A FINE LINE I SEEM TO STUMBLE
AS I SEEK THE LORD FOR ANSWERS.
PAT: I THINK PRESUMPTUOUS
SIN IS GETTING AWAY WITH STUFF.
THAT DOESN'T APPLY TO ME.
I AM GOING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF
THE LORD.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT.
TERRY: I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW
WHAT THE BIBLE MEANS BY QUOTE
WALKING IN THE SPIRIT.
I TRY TO DEVELOP MYSELF
SPIRITUALLY, I HAVE GOTTEN
FRUSTRATED AND DON'T KNOW HOW
ELSE I AM WALKING IN THE SPIRIT.
DO I HAVE AN EXAGE RATED VIEW
OF HOW MY RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD
SHOULD BE?
I THINK SO.
[LAUGHTER] I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO
ENJOY THE LORD.
YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE WITH -- I
HAVE BEEN MARRIED MANY, MANY,
MANY YEARS.
YOU LIVE WITH YOUR WIFE, LOVE
YOUR WIFE.
SHE LOVES YOU.
YOU BRING UP CHILDREN, YOU LIVE
TOGETHER, AND YOU WALK DAY BY
DAY BY DAY, YOU TAKE CARE OF
EACH OTHER IN SICKNESS AND
HEALTH.
THAT IS YOUR WALK.
TERRY: AND YOU REST IN THAT.
NEW
PAT: YOU DO.
AM I REALLY KEEPING THIS
COMMANDMENT?
WE DON'T, WE SHOULDN'T LIVE
THAT WAY.
IT SHOULD BE A NATURAL THING.
AND THEY THAT WALK IN THE
SPIRIT LIVE IN THE SPIRIT.
YOU KNOW, YOU ARE IN THE
SPIRIT, YOU ARE WORSHIPPING GOD.
YOUR WHOLE LIFE SHOULD BE A
LIFE OF PRAYER AND PRAISE.
SHOULD I WORRY ABOUT THIS,
SHOULD I DO THAT, IS THIS OKAY?
AS MANY ARE LED BY THE HOLY
SPIRIT, THEY ARE THE SONS OF
GOD, LET THE PEACE OF GOD BE AN
UMPIRE IN YOUR HEART.
PEACE OF GOD IS THERE.
THAT PEACE WILL HELP YOU IN
YOUR WALK WITH THE LORD.
ALL RIGHT.
TERRY: THIS IS KAREN, WHAT
SHOULD A PARENT DO FOR HELP
OTHER THAN PRAY WHEN TEENS ARE
DELINQUENT?
PAT: BEAT THEM.
[LAUGHTER].
TERRY: HE DIDN'T MEAN THAT.
YEAH, HE DOES.
BIBLE SAYS ROT OR REPROOF
DRIVES IT FAR FROM THEM, TRAIN
UP A CHILD IN THE WAY HE SHOULD
GO AND WHEN HE IS OLDER HE
WON'T DEPART.
IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TEACHING A
CHILD, BY THE TIELD THEY ARE
TEENAGERS DON'T BE SURPRISED
YOU HAVE A GREAT BIG STRAPPING
ADULT THAT WANTS HIS OWN WAY.
THE WAY YOU BRING UP A CHILD IS
BY LOVE.
TEACH THEM LOVE.
YOU TEACH THEM TO BE, YOU WEAN
THEM ON TO GOD.
THAT IS WHAT I DID WITH MY
CHILDREN.
I WANTED THEM TO LISTEN TO GOD.
DON'T LISTEN TO ME BUT GOD.
WHAT DOES GOD SAY?
THE SOONER I COULD GET THEM
GRADUATED FROM ME TO THE LORD,
BETTER OFF THINGS WERE.
DOESN'T MATTER HOW BIG AND
STRONG THEY WERE, SOMETHING A
WHOLE LOT BIGGER THAN THEY ARE
CONTROLLING THEM.
TERRY: WHEN A CHILD IS A
TEEN, THEY ARE STILL IN YOUR
HOME UNDER YOUR GUIDANCE AND
DIRECTION, YOU CAN REMOVE
PRIVILEGES, RIGHT?
PAT: YOU CAN DO ALL KINDS OF
THINGS, WHOLE IDEA, WHEN A KID
IS 14, 15, 16, 17, THIS
PUNISHMENT STUFF DOESN'T CUT IT.
YOU CAN SAY ALL RIGHT, YOU ARE
GROUNDED.
BUT YOU TAKE AWAY, YOU CAN'T
DRIVE THE CAR OR SOMETHING.
BIGGEST THING IS, DO YOU LOVE
GOD?
WHEN THEY ARE YOUNG, YOU TEACH
THEM TO LOVE THE LORD.
I HAVE THE FAMOUS STORY OF MY
OLDER DAUGHTER WHO IS JUST
PRECIOUS.
SHE IS -- I JUST HAD THE JOY
OF SEEING DAUGHTER MARRY.
WHEN SHE WAS A TEENAGER SHE WAS
GOING TO THIS PLACE AND DO
EVANGELISM.
IT WAS A NUTTY IDEA.
SHE WAS GOING TO MAKE A BIG
SCENE.
I SAID DARLING, GO ASK THE LORD
SEE WHAT HE TELLS YOU.
IF HE SAYS IT IS OKAY.
IT IS ALL RIGHT WITH ME.
[LAUGHTER].
I SAID GO UP STAIRS AND PRAY.
ABOUT 15 MINUTES SHE CAME DOWN
SHE SAID HE SAID DON'T GO.
I SAID OKAY.
DON'T GO.
TERRY: THERE YOU GO.
PAT: I WAS OUT OF THE
EQUATION.
SHE WAS ASKING THE LORD.
SHE KNEW THE LORD LOVED HER AND
CARED FOR HER.
THAT IS WHAT WE DO WITH
CHILDREN.
THE SOONER YOU CAN GET THEM IN
A RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS WHERE
THEY ARE BEING LED BY THE HOLY
SPIRIT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY
ABOUT QUOTE DISCIPLINE AND
COMING DOWN ON THEM HARD AND
ALL THAT STUFF.
YOU KNOW.
TERRY: IT DOESN'T NEED TO
BE DONE.
THIS IS MARIAH, I SAW YOU
ANSWER A QUESTION ABOUT TAROT
CAR CARDS, YOU SAID IT WAS
WRONG, IS GOING TO CHRISTIAN
PSYCHIC WRONG AS WELL?
PAT: NO SUCH THING AS A
CHRISTIAN PSYCHIC.
IT IS AN --
TERRY: OXYMORON.
PAT: THERE IS NO SUCH THING
AS CHRISTIAN PSYCHIC.
THERE IS NOT.
THE BIBLE SAYS WILL YOU TURN TO
SPIRITS THAT PEEP AND MUTTER
AND NOT TO THE LIVING GOD.
WE SHOULD TURN TO GOD AND HIS
WORD TO FIND THE ANSWERS NOT
SOME SUPERSPIRITUAL PSYCHIC.
GOD DOESN'T WANT US DEALING
WITH -- THE WORD PSYCHE COMES
FROM SOUL, SUKAI.
WE HAVE PSYCHIC THINGS, NO
QUESTION ABOUT IT.
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH
THE SPIRIT.
WE ARE TO BE LED BY THE HOLY
SPIRIT WITH OUR SPIRIT NOT BE
THE PSYCHE.
THAT IS THE FLESHLY PART OF OUR
BEING IS WHERE THAT COMES FROM,
THE NATURAL MAN.
THE BIBLE SAYS NATURAL MAN
RECEIVES NOT THE -- THE WORD IS
SUKAI.
SO WHY WOULD YOU GO TO SOMEBODY
WHO CLAIMS TO BE A CHRISTIAN
SUKAI.
DON'T DO IT.
TOMORROW WE HAVE IRISH TENORS.
MY GOODNESS.
YOU ARE GOING TO ENJOY THIS.
THEY ARE GOING TO BE HERE IN
THE STUDIO SINGING.
TODAY WE ARE GOING TO LEAVE YOU
WITH AN ORIGINAL CHRISTMAS SONG
BY A GROUP CALLED FOR KING AND
COUNTRY, SONG IS CALLED "BABY
BOY."
