Marriage experts and authors Philip & Holly Wagner share the secret to their matrimonial success. Plus, A childhood of abuse is reversed into a loving relationship when a son is able to forgive his father.
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Lee: COMING UP...
I HAD THOUGHT HE WOULD
ALWAYS BE TRUE BLUE.
Lee: BUT SHE WAS
WRONG.
I NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD
EVER CHEAT ON ME.
Lee: HOW SHE UNCOVERED
HER HUSBAND'S HIDDEN
AFFAIR.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT
WAS HAPPENING TO ME.
Lee: AND WHY SHE STAYED
WITH HIM.
PLUS, RELATIONSHIP EXPERTS,
PHILIP AND HOLLY WAGNER,
SHOW HU YO HOW YOU CAN
REKINDLE YOUR ROMANCE AND
TURN YOUR MARRIAGE AROUND IN
JUST SEVEN DAYS, ON TODAY'S
"700 CLUB."
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[APPLAUSE]
Gordon: WELCOME TO "THE
700 CLUB."
HE IS ONE OF THE MOST
IMPORTANT NEW FACES OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY, TEXAS
SENATOR TED CRUZ.
HE IS THE FIRST HISPANIC
SENATOR FROM THE LONE STAR
STATE.
Terry: AND HE IS A
RISING STAR AMONG
CONSERVATIVES.
CBN'S JOHN JESSUP TALKED TO
CRUZ ABOUT HIS PRIORITIES
AND HIS FAITH AND WHAT HE
HOPES TO ACCOMPLISH IN
WASHINGTON.
ANY TIME ANYONE SAYS
SENATOR, I TURN AROUND AND
TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO ON
EARTH THEY'RE TALKING TO.
Reporter: THE NEW
SENATOR IS ALREADY MAKING
WAVES.
HE TELLS CBN NEWS NOT TO
EXPECT HIS CONSERVATIVE
PRINCIPLES TO WAIVER JUST
BECAUSE HE IS IN
WASHINGTON.
MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE,
WHAT I INTEND TO FIGHT FOR
IN THE U.S. SENATE IS THAT
OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK THE
AMERICAN DREAM, NOT JUST NOR
US, BUT FOR OUR KIDS AND
GRANDKIDS.
Reporter: HE TOOK THE
OATH OF OFFICE ON A FAMILY
BIBLE.
HE IS NOW ON A CRUSADE TO
REFORM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY,
PREACHING WHAT HE CALLS
OPPORTUNITY CONSERVATISM,
DESIGNED TO CROSS PARTY
LINES.
ONE OF THE TREMENDOUS
THINGS ABOUT AMERICANS, NONE
OF US WANT TO BE DEPEND ON
GOVERNMENT.
ALL OF US WANT TO STAND ON
OUR OWN FEET, PROVIDE FOR
OUR FAMILIES, AND WORK
TOWARDS THE AMERICAN DREAM.
Reporter: SENATOR CRUZ
SAYS HE IS WILLING TO CROSS
PARTY LINES AND WORK WITH
DEMOCRATS ON POLICIES THAT
GROW THE ECONOMY, UNLIKE
WHAT HE CALLS THE LOUSY DEAL
TO AVOID A FISCAL CLIFF.
IN THAT FIGHT, HE SAYS
DEMOCRATS THAT THE UPPER
HAND.
HE BELIEVES THE TABLES WILL
BE TURNED IN THE UPCOMING
DEBT CEILING.
I THINK IF CONSERVATIVES
STAND STRONG AND SAY WE'VE
GOT TO FIX THE PROBLEMS.
IT IS IMMORAL TO STRATTLE
OUR KIDS WITH THIS SERIOUS
DEBT.
Reporter: HE EVEN
SUGGESTS REFUSING TO RAISE
THE DEBT CEILING TO FORCE A
PARTIAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN
LIKE THE ONE IN 1995.
THE RESULT WAS SOME
POLITICAL PAIN, BUT THE
RESULT WAS YEAR AFTER YEAR
OF BALANCED BUDGETS, AND
SOME OF THE MOST FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE POLICIES THIS
CONGRESS HISTORY EVER
PRODUCED.
Reporter: CRUZ CREDITS
HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH AND HIS
FATHER'S ESCAPE FROM CUBA
FOR SHAPING HIS POLITICAL
WORLD VIEW, WHICH HE SAYS
WILL GUIDE HIM AS A MEMBER
OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.
HAVING PRINCIPLED MEN AND
WOMEN IN OFFICE IS HOW WE
PROTECT OURSELVES FROM
TYRANNY.
ONE OF THE GREAT BENEFITS OF
BEING A CHILD OF A PARENT
WHO HAS FLED, YOU UNDERSTAND
HOW FRAGILE DEMOCRACY IS.
Reporter: WITH HIS
CUBAN HERITAGE, HE IS SEEN
AS A REPUBLICAN WHO COULD
PUT A DENT IN THE LATINO
VOTING BLOCK.
HE IS ALSO CONSIDERED A
POTENTIAL FRONT-RUNNER IN
2016, SOMETHING HE DOESN'T
MENTION.
I JUST WAS SWORN IN A FEW
DAYS AGO.
I HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND THE
RESTROOM.
I'M VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON
DOING THIS JOB RIGHT BEFORE
ME.
Reporter: AT LEAST FOR
NOW.
JOHN JESSUP, CBN NEWS,
CAPITOL HILL.
Gordon: HE IS STILL A
FRESHMAN SENATOR WITH A LOT
OF POTENTIAL.
YOU CAN FIND MORE OF JOHN'S
INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR CRUZ
ON CBN.COM.
ANOTHER NEWS OUT OF
WASHINGTON, A WELL-KNOWN
CHRISTIAN PASTOR WON'T BE
TAKING PART IN PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S INAUGURATION AFTER
ALL.
LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY FROM
THE CBN NEWS ROOM.
Lee: LOUIE GIGLIO HAS
DECIDED NOT TO GIVE THE
BENEDICTION AT PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S INAUGURATION
CEREMONY.
HE WITHDRAW AFTER CRITICS
CRITICIZED A CEREMONY HE
GAVE IN 1990 AGAINST
HOMOSEXUAL.
HE SAYS WE MUST LOVING BUT
AGGRESSIVELY RESPOND TO THE
AGGRESSIVE AGENDA OF NOT ONE
OR ALL.
HE SAYS, MY AIM HAS BEEN TO
CALL PEOPLE TO ULTIMATE
SIGNIFICANCE AS WE MAKE MUCH
OF JESUS CHRIST.
THE PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURAL
COMMITTEE WAS NOT AWARE OF
GIGLIO'S SERMON OR HIS
COMMENTS.
A SPOKESPERSON SAID HAD THEY
KNOWN, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE
INVITED HIM.
THE DEADLY FLU SEASON THAT
IS SWEEPING ACROSS THE
UNITED STATES IS GETTING
WORSE, AND IT HASN'T
PEAKED.
A 22-YEAR-OLD OKLAHOMA WOMAN
IS ONE OF THE LATEST TO
DIE.
AND THE DOCTORS AND
HOSPITALS ARE OVERWHELMED,
AND THE VACCINE IS SAID TO
BE IN SHORT SUPPLY.
SHACHARLENE ISRAEL HAS THAT
STORY.
IT WILL TAKE YOU PROBABLY
TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO FEEL
REALLY GOOD AGAIN.
Reporter: MANY
AMERICANS ARE FIGHTING A
LOSING BATTLE AGAINST THIS
YEAR'S FLU VIRUS.
WE ARE ALL A LITTLE
OVERWHELMED.
NOT ONLY THE PRACTITIONERS,
BUT THE CARE-GIVERS IN
GENERAL.
Reporter: DOCTORS,
HOSPITALS, AND PHARMACIES
ARE ALL STRUGGLING TO KEEP
UP.
THIS BOSTON HOSPITAL WAS
FORCED TO TURN OFFICE SPACE
INTO BED SPACE TO MAKE ROOM
FOR PATIENTS.
AND IT FEELS LIKE IT
HASN'T YET PEAKED.
WE WERE CONCERNED WE WERE
GOING TO RUN OUT OF
IN-PATIENT CAPACITY.
Reporter: MEDICAL
OFFICES ARE RUNNING OUT OF
THE FLU VACCINE.
MORE THAN 128 MILLION
VACCINE DOSES HAVE BEEN
DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, BUT CLINICS CAN'T
KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND.
IN SUMMERVILLE,
MASSACHUSETTS --
WE EXHAUSTED OUR SUPPLY
ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK.
Reporter: IN DALLAS,
TEXAS...
WE WERE RUNNING LOW.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A
THOUSAND DOSES.
WE'LL EVALUATE HOW MANY MORE
DOSES WE'LL BE NEEDING TO
ORDER.
RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO FILL
THE GAP.
THERE ARE A HUGE NUMBER
OF CASES.
THIS IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
Reporter: PHARMACISTS
ARE ALSO STRUGGLING TO FILL
PRESCRIPTION DRUG ORDERS.
WE WERE GOING TO GO ON A
CRUISE WITH OUR GRANDKIDS
AND DIDN'T GET TO GO.
IT WAS REALLY BAD.
PROBABLY THE SICKEST I'VE
BEEN IN 20 YEARS.
Reporter: DAN HOLSI IS
ONE OF MANY PATIENTS AT THIS
TEXAS PHARMACY, TRYING TO
GET THE DRUG, TAMIFLU.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING
24 BOXES OF THE TAMIFLU
CAPSULES, BUT WE'RE RUNNING
OUT OF THEM.
THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
WE'RE GETTING 40 OR 50
PRESCRIPTIONS FOR THEM EVERY
DAY.
Reporter: CHARLENE
ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.
Lee: AND TO MAKE
MATTERS WORSE, A NASTY
STOMACH BUG, CALLED THE
NOROVIRUS, IS ALSO
SPREADING.
IT IS EXTREMELY CONTAGIOUS.
A COLD FRONT IS BLASTING A
HUGE SECTION OF THE COUNTRY
WITH SNOW, ICE, AND FREEZING
RAIN.
SNOW SHUT DOWN INTERSTATE 5,
NORTH OF LOS ANGELES.
IT MADE FOR SLOW COMMUTES,
AND ROADS IN HIGHER
ELEVATIONS TURNED TO ICE.
FORECASTERS SAY IT IS PART
OF A GIANT COLD FRONT,
SENDING A CHILL FROM THE
ROCKIES TO THE MIDWEST.
60 MILE-AN-HOUR WINDS
TRIGGERED A MUDSLIDE IN
LOUISIANA.
RESIDENTS ARE CLEANING UP
AFTER A TWISTER TORE THROUGH
THE BATON ROUGE AREA.
OUR PATIO FURNITURE FLEW
OVER TO THE NEIGHBOR'S
YARD.
Lee: WINTER WEATHER
ADVISORIES AND WARNINGS ARE
POSTED FROM CALIFORNIA TO
MICHIGAN.
THE BIGGEST STORM TO HIT THE
MIDDLE EAST IN DECADES
JUMPED AT LEAST SIX INCHES
OF SNOW IN OF ALL PLACES,
JERUSALEM.
IT USUALLY SNOWS THERE ONCE
IN EVERY THREE OR FOUR
YEARS, BUT THIS WAS THE
BIGGEST SNOWSTORM IN 20
YEARS.
IT SHROWDE SHROWDED SITES
LIKE THE WESTERN WALL.
CHILDREN, YOUNG AND OLD,
WERE OUTSIDE BUILDING
SNOWMEN AND HAVING SNOWBALL
FIGHTS.
THE SNOW IS THE END OF THE
STORM FRONT THAT HAD BEEN
PUMMELLING THE COUNTRY FOR
FOUR DAYS.
FASCINATING, GORDON.
Gordon: THERE IS A
GREAT SHOT ON THE INTERNET
OF NETANYAHU THROWING A
SNOWBALL.
IF ANYTHING CAN SHUT DOWN
THE VIOLENCE THERE WOULD BE
SIX INCHES OF SNOW.
A WELCOME RELIEF FOR THE
CITY.
Terry: STILL AHEAD,
FROM A CHILD WHO'S FATHER
TRIED TO BURN HER, TO
ANOTHER WHO'S MOTHER THREW
HER OUT OF THE HOUSE, AND
WE'LL TAKE YOU TO AN
ORPHANAGE IN INDIA WHERE
KIDS HAVE FOUND A SAFE HOME,
AND YOU'LL MEET THE MAN WHO
RUNS IT.
Gordon: THE PASTOR IN
OUR NEXT STORY GOT OFF TO A
SLOW START IN MINISTRY.
HE WAS HOMELESS AND HAD NO
MONEY.
NOW HE RECENTLY LED A
MASSIVE PRAYER RALLY THAT
INCLUDED 17,000 PASTORS.
EPHRAIM GRAHAM HAS HIS
REMARKABLE STORY FROM NEW
DEHLI, INDIA.
I WAS 21 YEARS OLD WHEN I
STARTED.
Reporter: AT 60 YEARS
OLD, PASTOR R. ABRAHAM HAS
REACHED A MILESTONE IN HIS
MINISTRY.
HE HAS JUST WRAPPED A
FOUR-DAY MINISTRY, WHERE
WORLD PASTORS ASKED GOD FOR
PEACE IN THEIR COUNTRY.
FILLING THIS 150-ACRE FIELD
IS QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT
IN A NATION WHERE THE
CHRISTIAN POPULATION IS ONLY
A LITTLE MORE THAN 2%.
AND FOR THE POPULAR HOMETOWN
PASTOR WHO DIDN'T WANT TO
LEAVE HIS JOB AS A CHEMIST
NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO.
I COULDN'T EVEN HAVE A
CAR.
YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A CAR IN
'74, WAS A BIG DEAL.
IT WAS A PRETTY HIGH-PAYING
JOB IN THOSE DAYS.
AND SO YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR
LIFE IS SECURE.
AND GOD SPOKE TO ME, ALMOST
LIKE AN AUDIBLE VOICE.
Reporter: WHAT DID HE
SAY?
GOD SAID TO ME, SON, I
HAVE CALLED YOU FOR A REALLY
SPECIFIC PERSON.
I WANT YOU TO RESIGN YOUR
JOB, GET OUT OF YOUR HOME,
AND GO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO
YOUR PEOPLE.
I SAID, WHOA!
Reporter: THOUGH HE HAD
NO IDEA HOW TO PREACH,
PASTOR ABRAHAM OBEYED THE
CALL.
JUST MONTHS INTO HIS
MINISTRY, HE WAS BROKE,
HOMELESS, AND HUNGRY.
HAVING SOMETHING TO EAT
WAS THE BIGGEST MIRACLE IN
MY LIFE IN THOSE DAYS.
AND IN THE NIGHT, I HAD NO
PLACE TO GO.
SO I USED TO WAIT FOR THE
SHOPS TO PULL DOWN THEIR
SHUTTERS SO I COULD SLEEP IN
FRONT OF THE SHOPS.
AND EVEN IMAGINE, AND I
STARTED COULD WONDER, WHY
DID YOU CALL ME?
WHY?
Reporter: AFTER TWO
YEARS OF PRAYER AND
PATIENCE, PASTOR ABRAHAM
JOINED FORCES WITH ANOTHER
MINISTER TO START "NEW INDIA
CHURCH OF GOD."
THE ORGANIZATION NOW REACHES
ACROSS INDIA, TO MORE THAN
3,000 CHURCHES.
I HAVE ALWAYS RESPONDED
TO THE LEADING OF GOD, AND
ALSO RESPONDED TO THE
NEEDS.
IT IS A NEED FOR ME TO DO
WHATEVER YOU SAY BECAUSE OF
THE NEED BEFORE MY EYES.
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Reporter: THIS
ORPHANAGE IS ONE OF THOSE
NEEDS.
HERE AT BETHESDA, WHICH
MEANS HOUSE OF MERCY, LITTLE
GIRLS RECITE SCRIPTURE WITH
A SMILE.
THAT SMILE ALSO HIDES THE
PAIN AS THEY SHARE THEIR
HORRIBLE STORIES OF ABUSE.
CHAVANI REMEMBERS HER DAD
POURING KEROSENE ON HER MOM
AND BURNING HER TO DEATH.
8-YEAR-OLD HANU RECALLS HER
MOM BEING DRUNK AND THROWING
HER OUT OF THE HOUSE.
THEIR STORIES ARE TOO
FAMILIAR IN A COUNTRY WHERE
PARENTS OFTEN PREFER HAVING
BABY BOYS.
THAT JUST TORE MY HEART
APART.
I JUST STOOD THERE AND CRIED
AND CRIED.
AND THE LORD WAS TELLING ME,
WELL, WHO IS GOING TO TAKE
CARE OF THEM.
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN
MY LIFE, I OFFERED THAT I'LL
TAKE IT UP.
Reporter: HE NOW HAS 14
ORPHANAGES, AND HE HAS
PARTNERED WITH CBN'S
"ORPHANS' PROMISE."
BIG THINGS OFTEN START
SMALL, AND PASTOR ABRAHAM'S
ORPHANAGE DID JUST THAT.
IT BEGAN 10 YEARS AGO, THE
ORPHANAGE WAS RENTING OUT
TWO ROOMS INSIDE THIS
BUILDING.
IT NOW HAS TWO BUILDINGS,
ONE FOR THE ORPHANAGE AND
THE OTHER FOR BIBLE SCHOOL.
THIS IS ONE OF THE
MINISTRY'S 16 BIBLE
COLLEGES.
THERE ARE ALSO SIX CHRISTIAN
SCHOOLS.
WE VISITED A PRIMARY
SCHOOL.
*
Reporter: AND A HIGH
SCHOOL WITH PASTOR ABRAHAM.
I AM TOTALLY COMMITTED TO
HELP THESE CHILDREN.
I'VE REALLY GOT A HEART FOR
THE CHILDREN.
YOU KNOW?
I WANT TO DO THE BEST.
Reporter: PASTOR
ABRAHAM HAS A HEART FOR
INDIAN PEOPLE, YOUNG AND
OLD.
HIS LATEST PROJECT IS
BUILDING A RETIREMENT HOME
FOR AGING PASTORS.
THE PASTORS HERE IN
INDIA, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY
PENSION.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY LIFE
INSURANCE.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SOCIAL
SECURITY.
THE ONLY THING IS, THEY ARE
EITHER LOOKED AFTER BY THE
CHILDREN OR THEY ARE OUT ON
THE STREETS.
Reporter: THE PASTOR
HAS LIVED ON THE STREETS,
AND DOESN'T WANT TO SEE
ANYONE THERE.
AT 60, HE SAYS HE HAS GOT AT
LEAST ANOTHER 40 YEARS TO
REACH THEM WITH THE GOSPEL
AND A HEAVENLY HOME.
AS LONG AS YOU ARE READY0
AND WILLING, YOU KNOW, TO DO
GOD'S WILL, THAT'S THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING.
Reporter: EPHRAIM
GRAHAM, CBN NEWS, NEW DEHLI,
INDIA.
Gordon: JUST BE READY
AND WILLING TO DO GOD'S
WILL.
WE LOVE PASTOR ABRAHAM.
HE HAS BEEN A LONG-TIME
PARTNER WITH US IN MINISTRY
IN INDIA.
HIS SON WENT TO REGENT
UNIVERSITY, AND
CONGRATULATIONS ON SUCH AN
INCREDIBLE CAREER IN
MINISTRY, AND HOW FAR HE HAS
GONE IN THOSE DECADES.
Terry: A WONDERFUL
MAN.
YOU KNOW, HE SAYS IT IS
SIMPLE, AND, OF COURSE, IT
IS NEVER SIMPLE ON A MOMENT
TO MOMENT BASIS.
BUT WHEN GOD HAS SPOKEN TO
HIM, HE HAS SAID YES AND
MOVED.
AND THAT PRINCIPLE WORKS FOR
EVERYBODY.
Gordon: REGARDLESS OF
WHERE YOU ARE, HERE IN
AMERICA OR IN INDIA.
Terry: HOW WONDERFUL HE
IS.
UP NEXT, WHEN IT CAME TO
SPEAKING IN PUBLIC, TWO
WORDS CROSSED THIS YOUNG
MAN'S MIND.
FRIGHTENED, TERRIFIED.
Terry: HOW HE OVERCAME
HIS GREATEST FEAR WHEN WE
COME BACK.
Gordon: THE NUMBER ONE
FEAR IN AMERICA IS CALLED
GLOSOPHOBIA.
WE KNOW IT BETTER AS
SPEAKING IN PUBLIC.
FOR MANY, THE IDEA OF BEING
IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE
GIVES THEM BUTTERFLIES,
SWEATY PALMS, AND SOMETIMES
A PANIC ATTACK.
FOR YOUNG JOEL GREGORY, THAT
FEAR NEARLY CAUSED HIM TO
MISS OUT ON A LIFE-CHANGING
OPPORTUNITY.
Reporter: SHAREE AND
JOHN DESCRIBE THEIR
6-YEAR-OLD SON, JOEL, AS FUN
AND OUTGOING.
SO WHEN IT WAS TIME TO SIGN
UP FOR THEIR CHURCH'S EASTER
PROGRAM, THEY WERE SURE JOEL
WERE JUMP AT THE CHANCE.
THERE WAS JUST ONE PROBLEM.
HE HAS A FEAR OF STANDING
IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF
PEOPLE AND PERFORMING.
Reporter: JOEL HAD HIS
OWN WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW HE
FELT.
FRIGHTENED, TERRIFIED.
Reporter: ALTHOUGH JOHN0ñpñ
AND SHAREE TRIED AND TRIED
TO CONVINCE HIM IT WOULD BE
FUN, JOEL WOULD HAVE NO PART
OF IT.
THE OTHER KIDS PRACTICED
FOR TWO MONTHS, AND I
REFUSED.
Reporter: ABOUT THAT
TIME, JOEL AND HIS SISTER
STARTED WATCHING
"SUPERBOOK."
JOEL LOVED WATCHING THE
"SUPERBOOK" CHARACTERS,
CHRIS, JOY, AND GIZMO.
WE PUT IT IN, AND HE
WATCHED IT OVER AND OVER AND
OVER.
AND SO DID OUR DAUGHTER,
SAYLA.
AND THEY WATCHED IT PROBABLY
50 TIMES THAT FIRST WEEK AT
LEAST.
Reporter: PRETTY SOON
HE MEMORIZED THE WHOLE
EPISODE WORD FOR WORD.
THAT GAVE JOHN AN IDEA.
WE WERE WATCHING IT ONE
DAY, AND MY HUSBAND TURNED
TO JOEL, AND HE SAID, LOOK,
JOEL, CHRIS WAS AFRAID TO
PERFORM, BUT WHAT DID DAVID
TELL HIM?
HE SAID, HE TOLD HIM TO DO
IT FOR GOD.
AND HE SAID, THAT'S RIGHT,
YOU SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING IT
FOR GOD, IT WILL BE OKAY.
THE PASTOR WALKED UP TO
US AND SAID, JOEL WANTS TO
PERFORM AND HE IS NOT GOING
TO BE AFRAID.
MY HUSBAND AND I CRIED
BECAUSE WE KNEW HOW MUCH
COURAGE IT WAS TAKING FOR
HIM TO EVEN SAY THAT.
Reporter: AFTER JUST 10
MINUTES OF PRACTICE, JOEL
PERFORMED HIS PART
PERFECTLY.
JOEL SAYS WATCHING
"SUPERBOOK" TOLD HIM NOT TO
BE AFRAID AND TO TRUST GOD.
WE JUST STARTED WATCHING
"SUPERBOOK," AND THAT JUST
ENCOURAGED ME.
Gordon: "SUPERBOOK," IT
IS CHANGING LIVES.
IT IS ENCOURAGING CHILDREN
AROUND THE WORLD.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO
DO.
WE WANT TO TAKE THE STORIES
OF THE BIBLE INTO 38
DIFFERENT LANGUAGES BY JUNE
OF THIS YEAR.
THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE.
WE'LL BE BROADCASTING AROUND
THE WORLD.
WE'VE ALREADY BEEN
BROADCASTING THE SERIES HERE
IN THE UNITED STATES ON ABC
FAMILY, AND WE WANT TO SEE
IT GO AROUND THE WORLD.
OUR GOAL OVER THE NEXT FIVE
YEARS IS FOR 300 MILLION
CHILDREN TO SEE THE
"SUPERBOOK" CARTOON SERIES.
AND WE NEED HELP IN THIS.
WE NEED HELP WITH THE
TRANSLATION COSTS, THE
DISTRIBUTION COSTS, AND THE
PRODUCTION OF SERIES TWO AND
THREE.
WE ARE JUST KICKING THAT OFF
THIS MONTH.
WE NEED HELP WITH ALL OF
THAT.
SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO
CONTRIBUTE, TO JOIN WITH US,
TO SAY, YES, I WANT TO BE A
PART OF "SUPERBOOK."
HOW MUCH?
WE'RE ASKING FOR $25.
AND FOR A GIFT OF $25, WE'LL
SEND YOU OUT THE LATEST
EPISODE, WHICH IS THE STORY
OF JACOB AND ESAU.
AND IF YOU JOIN THE
"SUPERBOOK" D.V.D. CLUB,
YOU'LL GET EACH EPISODE AS
IT IS RELEASED EVERY FOUR TO
SIX WEEKS.
AND YOU WON'T JUST GET ONE
COPY, BUT YOU'LL GET THREE
SO YOU CAN SHARE WITH FAMILY
AND FRIENDS AND YOUR
SHURCH.
W YOUR -- CHURCH.
IF YOU WANT TO GET THESE FOR
YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR
FAMILY, BE PART OF IT.
JOIN THE CLUB, AND THAT WAY
YOU'RE SURE YOU CAN GET EACH
EPISODE AS IT COMES OUT.
IF YOU WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP
IN THE SERIES, JACOB AND
ESAU IS THE 11th VERSION
OF "SUPERBOOK," THE 11th
SHOW IN SEASON ONE.
IF YOU WANT TO GET CAUGHT
UP, GO TO cbn.com, AND
THERE IS A WAY YOU CAN ORDER
THE PAST EPISODES.
DO IT NOW.
CALL US NOW.
1-800-759-0700.
TERRY?
Terry: COMING UP, A WAR
HERO RETURNS HOME AS A VERY
DIFFERENT MAN.
I WOULD HEAR THE CAR DOOR
SLAM, AND I KNEW I WAS IN
TROUBLE FOR SOMETHING I
HADN'T EVEN DONE.
Terry: HEAR HOW THIS
FAMILY WON THE BATTLE ONCE
AND FOR ALL.
THAT'S LATER ON TODAY'S
SHOW.
Lee: WELCOME BACK TO
"THE 700 CLUB."
FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST
SUFFER DAILY IN
INTERROGATION, ARREST, AND
EVEN DEATH IN AT LEAST 60
COUNTRIES.
THAT'S ACCORDING TO "OPEN
DOORS U.S.A.," WHICH HAS
RELEASED ITS ANNUAL WATCH
LIST OF THE WORLDS 50 WORST
OFFENDERS.
CHRISTIANS IN AFRICA ARE
WITNESSING A SIGNIFICANT
SURGE IN PERSECUTION.
MALI JUMPED FROM UNRANKED TO
NUMBER SEVEN.
TANZANIA, YUGOSLAVIA, AND
NIGERIA ALSO JOINED THE
LIST.
AND ETHIOPIA CLIMBED FROM
NUMBER 38 TO 15.
BUT NORTH KOREA CONTINUES TO
BE THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE
WORLD TO BE A CHRISTIAN.
IT TOPPED THE CHART FOR THE
11th YEAR IN A ROW,
FOLLOWED BY SAUDI ARABIA,
AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, AND
SOMALIA.
AND IN THOSE NATIONS, OPEN
DOORS SAYS EXTREME ISLAM
POSSESS THE LARGEST THREAT
FOR CHRISTIANS.
"OPERATION BLESSING" IS
EQUIPPING THOUSANDS OF
PEOPLE WITH MARKETABLE JOB
SKILLS AND SMALL BUSINESS
OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH
MICROENTERPRISE PROJECTS.
RECENTLY A BAKERY WORKSHOP
HELPED A TEENAGER IN PERU
START HIS OWN BUSINESS.
MIGUEL WANTED TO GO TO
COLLEGE, BUT CAN'T AFFORD
IT.
HE ATTENDED THE WORKSHOP,
AND AT THE END, "OPERATION
BLESSING" HELPED HIM AND HIS
CLASSMATES OPEN A COMMUNITY
BAKERY.
O.B. SUPPLIED THEM WITH SIX
MONTHS TO GET STARTED.
AND NOW MIGUEL IS EARNING
ENOUGH MONEY SO HE CAN SAVE
TO GO TO COLLEGE.
YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT
"OPERATION BLESSING" BY
GOING TO OB.ORG.
STAY TUNED, GORDON AND TERRY
WILL BE BACK WITH MORE OF
"THE 700 CLUB" RIGHT AFTER
THIS.
Lee: NEXT WEEK...
I FELT LIKE I HAD HOLES
IN MY POCKET.
IT SEEMED LIKE I COULDN'T
HOLD ON TO MONEY.
Lee: ARE YOU LOOKING
FOR A FINANCIAL
BREAKTHROUGH?
A LITTLE OVER 100,000
DOLLARS IN DEBT.
SOMETHING WOULD ALWAYS
COME UP.
Lee: THESE PEOPLE FOUND
IT.
IT WOULD ALWAYS SEEM LIKE
ANY TIME WE WERE IN REAL
NEED, SOMEONE WOULD CALL US
AND WE WOULD HAVE WHAT WE
NEEDED.
Lee: GET THEIR SECRET.
YOU WILL BE BLESSED FOR
IT.
HE KEEPS HIS PROMISES.
Lee: NEXT WEEK ON "THE
700 CLUB."
Gordon: CHRIS DUFRY IS
KNOWN FOR PREACHING AND
SINGING ALL OVER THE WORLD
ABOUT THE FATHER HEART OF
GOD.
EVEN THOUGH WHEN HE WAS
GROWING UP, ALL CHRIS KNEW
WAS HIS OWN FATHER'S WRATH.
MY FIRST LESSON IN
PHYSICS, FORCE, SPEED, CAME
WHEN I WAS FOUR YEARS OLD.
WHEN YOUR DAD HITS YOU WITH
A CERTAIN DEGREE OF FORCE,
YOU END UP ON THE FLOOR
REALLY HARD.
MY DAD WAS A WORLD WAR II
VET.
HE ENDED UP ON A B-17 AS A
BOMBBADIER.
HE WAS SHOT DOWN AND BROKE
HIS LEG IN FIVE PIECES.
HE ENDED IN A FRENCH
UNDERGROUND.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE
MEDICATION.
SO THEY GAVE HIM TO THE
NAZIS.
THEY PUT A CAST ON HIM, BUT
HE WAS ABUSED IN 1945 UNTIL
GENERAL PATTON LIBERATED HIS
CAMP.
HE WAS KNOWN AS NICE-GUY
DAVE, AND HE CAME OUT OF THE
WAR AS TWO DIFFERENT
PEOPLE.
I WOULD LOOK THROUGH THE
WINDOW AND SEE THE KIDS
LAUGHING WHILE HE WAS AT HIS
DESK.
IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS HAVING
A WONDERFUL TIME.
BUT I KNEW THAT SAME MAN
WOULD DRIVE IN THE DRIVEWAY
AND I WOULD HEAR THE DOOR
SLAM AND I KNEW I WOULD BE
IN TROUBLE FOR SOMETHING I
HADN'T EVEN DONE.
I BECAME THE SCAPE FOR HIS
ANGER AND ABUSE HE COULD NOT
SHOW IN SCHOOL.
I'M IN THE KITCHEN AND I'M
LITERALLY FLYING ACROSS THE
KITCHEN, AND HIT THE WALL AS
MY MOM CAME BACK FROM
SHOPPING.
IT WAS AT THAT POINT -- SHE
FINALLY SAW SOMETHING
HAPPEN, AND SHE TOOK THE
THREE KIDS AWAY.
AND WE MOVED AN HOUR AWAY.
LIFE BECAME VERY DIFFERENT.
IT WAS A LOVING HOME.
SHE TAKES MY HAND AND LEADS
ME IN ONE OF THE MOST
SIMPLE, BEAUTIFUL SINNER'S
PRAYER.
I PRAYED AND AGREED WITH
EVERYTHING SHE SAID.
THEN ONE DAY THE LORD JUST
SAID TO ME, I WANT YOU TO
FORGIVE YOUR FATHER.
AND I SAID, LORD, I'M REALLY
TRYING.
AND HE SAID, NO, FACE TO
FACE.
AND THAT'S WHEN IT GOT
REALLY REAL.
IT WAS JULY 4th, 1982.
I WALKED OVER TO MY DAD, AND
I GO, UM, DAD, I JUST WANTED
TO TELL YOU THAT I LOVE YOU
AND I FORGIVE YOU FOR
EVERYTHING THAT EVER
HAPPENED.
AND HE SAID NOTHING.
AND I PUT MY ARM AROUND MY
DAD, AND I JUST TOUCHED HIS
SHOULDER.
THE SECOND I TOUCHED HIS
SHOULDER, HE BEGAN TO WEEP.
AND HE BEGAN TO BEND OVER
WEEPING AND WEEPING.
HE TAKES HIS LEFT HAND AND
PUTS IT AROUND MY WAIST TO
HOLD HIMSELF UP.
THE SECOND HE TOUCHED MY
WAIST, I BEGAN TO WEEP.
THEN I JUST TURNED AND I PUT
MY ARMS AROUND HIM AND I
HUGGED HIM.
AND THEN I WALKED AWAY.
AND WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT
THAT MOMENT.
BUT THAT NIGHT, WHEN I WENT
TO GO SAY GOOD NIGHT, NO
LONGER DID I JUST SHAKE HIS
HAND.
I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT
IT.
IT CAME TIME TO SAY
GOOD-BYE, AND I REACHED OVER
AND I GAVE HIM THIS BIG BEAR
HUG.
AND HE GOES, WHOA, WHOA,
THAT'S DIFFERENT.
HE GOES, WAIT A MINUTE, COME
HERE.
AND I BEAR HUGGED HIM AGAIN,
AND HE HUGS ME, AND HE SAYS,
LET'S DO THIS.
LET'S DO THIS EVERY TIME.
THE DOCTOR, THE ATTENDING
PHYSICIAN, THE RESIDENT, THE
ANESTHESIOLOGIST WERE ALL
SURROUNDING HIS LITTLE BED.
I JUST KIND OF LEANED OVER
AND GRABBED HIS HAND LIKE
THIS, AND I GO, LOVE YOU,
DAD.
HE LOOKS AT ME AND GOES, WE
DON'T DO THIS.
AND HE JUST GRABS MY FACE
AND STARTS KISSING ME IN
FRONT OF THE DOCTORS.
HE TURNS MY HEAD AND GOES,
THIS IS MY SON.
AND HE LOOKS AT THE DOCTOR
AND GOES, HE IS GREAT, AND I
LOVE HIM.
AND HE PUTS ME DOWN.
THEY TAKE THE STRETCHER AND
THEY START TO WHEEL THEM
AWAY, AND MY FATHER YELLS
OUT STOP, I CAN'T SEE MY
SON.
TURN THE STRETCHER AROUND.
SO THEY TURN THE STRETCHER
AROUND, AND THE GIRL IS
PULLING HIM BACK, AND HE IS
BLOWING KISSES.
MY EYES START TO FILL UP
WITH TEARS, AND SO I BLOW
HIM KISSES, AND HE BLOWS ME
KISSES, AND HE TAKES HIS
FINGER AND BEGINS TO KISS
HIS FINGER AND KISSES THE
OTHER ONE AND STARTS
SHOOTING THEM.
AND THEY PUT HIM IN THE
ELEVATOR, AND I WATCH MY
DAD, AS THE DOOR IS CLOSING,
HE KISSES HIS THUMB AND PUTS
IT UP LIKE THIS AS THE DOOR
CLOSES.
SO WE WENT TO WAIT.
IT IS AN HOUR PROCEDURE, AND
A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR, AND
THEY CAME AND THE DOCTOR
CAME WITH THE AN
ANESTHESIOLOGIST, AND I
DIDN'T KNOW WHY, AND HE
SAID, WE'RE VERY SORRY TO
TELL YOU THAT MR. DUFRY
CRIED ON THE TABLE.
AND EVERY TIME I CLOSED MY
EYES, I SAW HIM KISSING ME.
EVERY TIME I CLOSED MY EYES,
I SAW HIM HOLDING MY FACE,
AND I'M SO PROUD OF HIM.
AND EVERY DAY I'M CONVINCED
THAT'S HOW MY PAPA SEES ME.
NOT JUST MY EARTHLY FATHER,
BUT MY HEAVENLY FATHER,
TOO.
HE TURNS TO ME AND SAYS,
THAT'S MY BOY.
I LOVE THIS KID.
I LOVE HIM.
I KNOW THAT MY GOD IS --
HE'S CRAZY ABOUT ME.
I'M HIS BOY.
I'M HIS LOVED ONE, AND I
DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO
PROVE IT.
MY LIFE IS NOT A LIFE OF
PROVING SOMETHING.
IT IS A LIFE OF LIVING OUT
OF PEACE BECAUSE I'M ALREADY
LOVED.
Gordon: YOU CAN HAVE
THAT SAME EXPERIENCE, A LIFE
OF PEACE BECAUSE YOU'RE
LIVING OUT OF LOVE.
AND YOU HAVE THE ASSURANCE
THAT GOD LOVES YOU.
THAT HE'S NOT ANGRY AT YOU.
HE IS HOLDING NOTHING
AGAINST YOU.
YOU HAVE THAT ASSURANCE DEEP
WITHIN YOUR OWN HEART, THAT
YOU KNOW GOD IS BRAGGING
ABOUT YOU.
AND HE IS SAYING, LOOK,
THERE IS UNDERSTANDING.
LOOK AT WHAT THEY CAN DO.
LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING
FOR ME.
LOOK AT ALL OF THE WONDERFUL
THINGS MY CHILDREN ARE UP
TO.
THAT'S WHAT GOD IS THINKING
ABOUT YOU.
WHEN WE START UNDERSTANDING
LOVE KEEPS NO RECORD OF
WRONGS, NONE, NO RECORD.
WHEN WE UNDERSTAND
EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CAST
INTO THE DEEPEST PART OF THE
SEA, AND THAT HE REMEMBERS
THEM NO MORE.
WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT,
IT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST
REVELATIONS YOU CAN HAVE
BECAUSE THEN YOU FINALLY
UNDERSTAND NOTHING SEPARATES
YOU FROM THE LOVE OF GOD.
THAT THE WAY HAS BEEN MADE
WIDE OPEN.
JESUS PAID THE COST.
HE PAID FOR EVERYTHING.
AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS
BELIEVE THAT.
AND WALK IN THAT.
NOW, WHAT DOES THE WORLD
WANT US TO THINK?
THE WORLD WANTS US TO THINK
THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE SEPARATED
FROM GOD.
THAT WE CAN'T HEAR HIM AND
WE CAN'T FEEL HIM.
EVEN THOUGH HE IS ALL AROUND
US, AND IN HIM WITH LIVE AND
MOVE AND HAVE OUR BEING.
SOMEHOW WE THINK, NO, WE'RE
SEPARATED, THAT GOD IS WAY
OFF IN HEAVEN SOMEWHERE,
THAT HE IS NOT WITH US, AND
WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HEAVEN
IS IN OUR MIDST.
AND HEAVEN IS WITHIN US.
JESUS CAME TO GIVE YOU A
GREAT GIFT, AND THAT GIFT IS
TO WIPE AWAY EVERY SIN,
EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER DONE
WRONG, AND TO MAKE YOU
JUSTIFIED.
AND I LIKE TO PUT IT JUST AS
IF YOU NEVER DID IT.
NOW, IMAGINE THAT YOU'VE
NEVER SINNED, THAT YOU'VE
NEVER MADE A MISTAKE, THAT
YOU'VE NEVER FALLEN SHORT,
THAT YOU'VE NEVER MISSED THE
MARK.
JUST IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD
DO FOR YOU.
AND HOW THAT WOULD GIVE YOU
A CONFIDENCE AND A PEACE AND
AN ASSURANCE.
AND NOW START THINKING ABOUT
YOU HAVE NEVER CONDEMNED
YOURSELF.
YOU HAVE NEVER LOOKED IN THE
MIRROR AND SAID, WHY DID I
DO THAT?
YOU'VE NEVER HAD A REGRET.
IMAGINE WHAT YOUR LIFE WOULD
BE LIKE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT GOD CAME
TO DO.
THAT'S WHAT JESUS CAME TO
DO.
AND HIS MESSAGE IS VERY
CLEAR: CHANGE YOUR THINKING
AND BELIEVE THE GOOD NEWS.
AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU
GIVE YOURSELF ONE OF THE
GREATEST GIFTS, THE GIFT OF
FORGIVENESS.
AND THEN FROM THAT PLACE OF
FORGIVENESS, YOU'RE ABLE TO
FORGIVE THE PEOPLE AROUND
YOU, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO SAY
I FORGIVE THEM, I SET THEM
FREE, I HOLD NOTHING AGAINST
THEM.
I WANT THEM TO HAVE THE SAME
JOY, THE SAME LOVE, THE SAME
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD THAT I
HAVE.
SO REALIZE THIS IS GOOD
NEWS, AND IT'S THE BEST NEWS
THE WORLD HAS EVER HEARD.
AND IT'S SO GOOD THAT WE
HAVE TROUBLE BELIEVING IT.
AND WE WANT TO STAY IN A
PLACE OF CONDEMNATION.
WE WANT TO STAY IN A PLACE
WHERE WE'VE GOT TO EARN
GOD'S FAVOR.
AND WE HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE
RIGHT THINGS AT ALL OF THE
RIGHT TIMES.
AND IF WE MISS, WE THINK
SOMEHOW GOD IS ANGRY AND GOD
IS UPSET, AND GOD DOESN'T
WANT US ANYMORE.
REALIZE THE GOD NEWS IS FOR
YOU.
AND THAT THIS IS LOVE.
THAT WHILE WE WERE YET
SINNERS, CHRIST DIED FOR
US.
AND THAT MEANS YOU.
REALIZE THAT GOD SO LOVED
THE WORLD -- THAT'S YOU, HE
LOVED YOU -- THAT HE GAVE
HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, AND
THAT WHO SO EVER -- THAT'S
YOU, TOO -- WOULD BELIEVE IN
HIM, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE
ETERNAL LIFE.
THEY WOULDN'T PERISH, BUT
THEY WOULD BE WITH GOD FOR
ALL ETERNITY.
ALL OF THAT IS FOR YOU.
AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO
RECEIVE IT IS TO BELIEVE
IT.
WHO SO EVER WOULD BELIEVE ON
HIM.
NOW, IF THIS IS FOR YOU, IF
YOU'VE NEVER HEARD THIS
BEFORE -- AND EVEN IF YOU
HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE AND
YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE
BELIEVING IT -- MAYBE YOU
WALKED YOUR OWN WAY AND
STARTED DOING YOUR OWN
THING, THERE IS STILL GOOD
NEWS FOR YOU.
GOD STILL LOVES YOU.
NOTHING CAN SEPARATE YOU
FROM HIS LOVE.
TO GET IT, ALL YOU HAVE TO
DO IS ASK.
TO TURN TO HIM AND SAY,
LORD, I WANT YOU.
I WANT TO FEEL YOUR LOVE.
I WANT TO FEEL YOUR
PRESENCE.
I WANT YOU IN MY LIFE.
ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK.
SO IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT,
DON'T TURN AWAY.
DON'T LET ANOTHER DAY GO BY
WHERE YOU FEEL SOMEHOW
YOU'RE ORPHANED AND
SEPARATED FROM GOD.
YOU CAN HAVE AN EXPERIENCE
WITH HIM THAT WILL LAST A
LIFETIME, THAT WILL BE WITH
YOU EVERY MOMENT, AND THAT
HE'LL NEVER LEAVE YOU, HE'LL
NEVER FORSAKE YOU.
AND YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL JUST
BY ASKING.
SO PRAY WITH ME.
AND LET'S JUST BELIEVE GOD.
AND LET'S RECEIVE THE
GREATEST GIFT THE WORLD HAS
EVER HEARD ABOUT.
PRAY WITH ME.
JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHTS, SAY
HIS NAME.
SAY IT OUT LOUD.
JESUS, I COME TO YOU AND I
HEAR ABOUT THIS LOVE, ABOUT
THIS FORGIVENESS, ABOUT THIS
GIFT THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME.
AND, JESUS, I WANT THAT.
I WANT YOU TO BE IN MY
LIFE.
I WANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICE.
I WANT TO FEEL YOUR
PRESENCE.
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE
GREATNESS OF YOUR LOVE
TOWARDS ME.
SO, JESUS, HEAR MY PRAYER.
FORGIVE ME OF THE THINGS
THAT I'VE DONE WRONG.
SET ME FREE FROM
CONDEMNATION, FROM GUILT,
FROM SHAME.
LET ME KNOW YOUR
RIGHTEOUSNESS, YOUR PEACE,
AND YOUR JOY.
DO IT, LORD, BE IN MY LIFE.
I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU ALL OF
THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.
HEAR MY PRAYER, FOR I PRAY
IT IN JESUS' NAME.
FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO JUST
PRAYED, I ASK FOR A BAPTISM
IN YOUR LOVE.
I ASK THAT YOU SHOW THEM HOW
MUCH YOU LOVE THEM, HOW MUCH
YOU TAKE GREAT JOY IN THEM.
GIVE THEM THE PEACE THAT
SURPASSES ALL
UNDERSTANDING.
FILL THEM WITH YOUR HOLY
SPIRIT.
DO IT NOW, FOR I ASK IT IN
JESUS' NAME.
AMEN.
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IF YOU
BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND
THEN CONFESS WITH YOUR
MOUTH, YOU SHALL BE SAVED.
WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS DO
JUST THAT, AND CONFESS WITH
YOUR MOUTH, THAT YOU JUST
PRAYED AND YOU JUST ASKED
JESUS INTO YOUR HEART.
THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.
PICK UP A PHONE AND CALL
US.
1-800-759-0700.
JUST SAY, I JUST PRAYED.
I ASKED JESUS TO COME INTO
MY HEART.
WHEN YOU CALL, I'VE GOT
SOMETHING FOR YOU.
I WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.
IT IS A PACKET WITH A C.D.
TEACHING ON HOW TO LIVE THE
CHRISTIAN LIFE.
WHAT DO YOU DO NOW?
THERE IS ALSO A BOOKLET
FILLED WITH BIBLE VERSES.
I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND,
WHAT ARE THE PILLARS OF THE
CHRISTIAN FAITH?
WHAT DO CHRISTIANS REALLY
BELIEVE?
WHAT IS THE BASIS OF OUR
SALVATION AND WHAT JESUS HAS
DONE FOR US?
I ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO JOIN
A LOCAL CHURCH, GO THROUGH
BAPTISM.
START WITH THAT PHONE CALL
RIGHT NOW.
DO IT NOW.
1-800-759-0700.
TERRY, OVER TO YOU.
Terry: WELL, COMING UP,
FOR THIS COUPLE, IT WAS LOVE
AT FIRST SIGHT, AND THEIR
RELATIONSHIP WENT DOWNHILL
FROM THERE.
SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT.
SOMETHING IS MISSING.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER
WAS, MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER
JUST WASN'T A PRIORITY IN MY
LIFE.
AT THAT POINT, WE WERE
LOOKING AT DIVORCE.
Terry: FIND OUT HOW HAY
FELL BACK IN LOVE.
PLUS WE HAVE SECRETS FOR A
SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE, WHEN WE
RETURN.
Terry: ONE NIGHT BILL
RISER CALLED HIS GIRLFRIEND
FROM WORK.
THERE WAS NOTHING UNUSUAL
ABOUT THAT, EXCEPT THIS TIME
BILL'S WIFE, CAROLYN, WAS
LISTENING IN THE NEXT ROOM.
Reporter: BILL AND
CAROLYN MET WHILE IN COLLEGE
AT EASTERN KENTUCKY
UNIVERSITY.
BILL WAS A BASKETBALL STAR
WITH A HARD PARTYING
LIFESTYLE.
CAROLYN WAS IN LOVE.
I WANTED TO GET TO KNOW
HIM MORE, AND I START THE
ASKING AROUND ABOUT WHO THIS
GUY WAS, THIS CUTE GUY FROM
NEW YORK.
CAROLYN WAS THE ONLY
PERSON WHO WOULD LISTEN TO
ME, AND WHO REALLY CARED FOR
ME, DESPITE WHAT I DID AND
WHO I WAS.
Reporter: AFTER
COLLEGE, THEY MOVED TO NEW
YORK, MARRIED AND HAD A
DAUGHTER.
WE WOULD ARGUE BECAUSE I
WOULD FEEL LIKE HE WASN'T
SPENDING ENOUGH TIME WITH
OUR DAUGHTER.
I WAS BASICALLY DOING
EVERYTHING TO RAISE HER.
THE FACT OF THE MATTER
WAS, MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER
JUST WASN'T A PRIORITY IN MY
LIFE.
I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT LOVE
WAS.
WHEN WE GOT MARRIED, I JUST
THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE IT A
GOOD SHOT.
Reporter: HIS BEST SHOT
WASN'T VERY GOOD.
CAROLYN REALIZED SOMETHING
WAS NOT RIGHT IN HER LIFE
AND IN LIA THEIR MARRIAGE.
SHE HAD GROWN UP AS A
CHRISTIAN, BUT PUT HIS FAITH
ASIDE SINCE SHE MET BILL.
GOD STARTED DRAWING ME
BACK TO HIM.
MY HEART WAS SEEKING AFTER
HIM.
I REALIZED, I WANT TO BE IN
RELATIONSHIP, I WANT TO BE
IN COMMUNITY, I WANT GOD
BACK IN MY LIFE.
BECAUSE I JUST FELT LIKE,
I'M SUPPOSED TO BE A
CHRISTIAN, BUT I'M NOT
ACTING LIKE IT.
SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT.
SOMETHING IS MISSING.
Reporter: CAROLYN
RECOMMITTED HER LIFE TO
CHRIST.
BILL WANTED NOTHING TO DO
WITH GOD.
HE WAS LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE,
DRINKING HEAVILY AND USING
DRUGS.
HE HAD SEVERAL AFFAIRS HE
KEPT HIDDEN FROM CAROLYN,
UNTIL ONE NIGHT SHE
OVERHEARD BILL ON A PHONE
CALL WITH HIS MISTRESS.
I NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD
EVER CHEAT ON ME OR HAVE
AFFAIRS WITH OTHER WOMEN.
THAT IS JUST SOMETHING I
NEVER CONSIDERED.
I HAD THOUGHT HE WOULD
ALWAYS BE TRUE BLUE.
I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT WAS
HAPPENING TO ME.
AT THAT POINT, WE WERE
LOOKING AT DIVORCE.
ME MOVING OUT WAS THE
ONLY OPTION.
I KNEW THAT I LOST MY
DAUGHTER, I LOST MY WIFE.
AND IT WAS THE LOWEST POINT
IN MY LIFE.
BILL AND I HAD TALKED
ABOUT HAVING A MEETING TO
DISCUSS A DIVORCE, AND HOW
WE WERE GOING TO SPLIT UP
EVERYTHING.
AND I KNEW THAT I HAD TO GO
FOR COUNSEL AND PRAYER
BEFORE THAT MEETING.
SO I WENT AND THE PASTOR
PRAYED A PRAYER OVER ME.
PRAY FOR PEACE THAT
SURPASSES ALL
UNDERSTANDING.
AND I HEARD THAT PHRASE ALL
MY LIFE.
NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT
WHAT IT MEANT.
NEVER REALLY EXPERIENCED
IT.
THE PEACE I EXPERIENCED WHEN
I PRAYED TO HELP ME FORGIVE
BILL, IT IS LIKE HE SAID
YES.
AND IT WAS LIKE A WEIGHT WAS
BEING LIFTED OFF OF ME.
AND IT IS LIKE MY HEART WAS
BEING FILLED WITH LOVE.
Reporter: BILL WAS
PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR
DIVORCE.
BUT WHEN CAROLYN ENTERED THE
HOUSE, HE COULD TELL
SOMETHING HAS CHANGED.
SHE HAS NEVER STOOD
BEFORE ME WITH A CONFIDENCE
LIKE THAT.
AND WHEN HE STARTED TO
SPEAK, I KNEW THAT IT WAS
GOD SPEAKING TO ME.
SHE SAID, GOD CAN FORGIVE
YOU FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE
EVER DONE, AND SO CAN I.
I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN EVER
FORGET THE THINGS THAT
YOU'VE DONE, BUT I'M WILLING
TO GIVE IT A TRY IF YOU'RE
WILLING TO GIVE YOUR LIFE TO
JESUS CHRIST.
I REALIZED, FOR THE FIRST
TIME IN MY LIFE, THAT GOD
LOVED ME DESPITE ME. AND I
MADE A DECISION THAT NIGHT
TO GIVE MY LIFE TO JESUS
CHRIST.
I KNEW MY MARRIAGE WASN'T
SAVED THEN -- I KNEW I HAD
DONE A LOT OF DAMAGE TO IT.
I NEEDED TO GO FIGHT FOR
THIS THING.
AND THAT'S WHAT I DID.
I SET OUT ON A JOURNEY TO GO
FIGHT FOR MY MARRIAGE AND TO
GO LOVE MY WIFE.
I THOUGHT, HOW AM I EVER
GOING TO TRUST HIM AGAIN,
KNOWING WHAT HE DID, EVEN
THOUGH I HAD FORGIVEN HIM.
AND I KNEW GOD SAID, YOU
DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
HIM.
YOU TRUST ME AND I'LL TAKE
CARE OF HIM.
AND THEN I SAW BILL CHASING
AFTER GOD, SO I'VE NEVER
LOOKED BACK.
I KNOW THAT IT IS TRULY
IMPOSSIBLE TO LOVE SOMEONE
ELSE THE WAY GOD INTENDED US
TO LOVE THAT PERSON, UNLESS
WE'VE RECEIVED THE LOVE THAT
GOD HAS FOR US, THAT CAN
ONLY COME THROUGH A
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS SON,
JESUS CHRIST.
OUR MARRIAGE TODAY IS SO
STRONG.
WE LOVE EACH OTHER MORE THAN
WE EVER HAVE.
WITH GOD IN THE MIDDLE,
THERE IS NO SITUATION WE
CAN'T CONQUER BECAUSE GOD IS
OUR VICTOR.
I REALLY WISH PEOPLE COULD
SURRENDER THEMSELVES AND
THEIR MARRIAGES OVER TO
HIM.
BECAUSE IF HE CAN CHANGE
OURS AND RESTORE EVERYTHING,
I KNOW HE IS GOING TO DO
THAT FOR ANY AND ALL
MARRIAGES THAT ARE WILLING
TO DO THE SAME.
Terry: RESTORATION, IT
IS DIFFICULT BUT WORTH IT.
BILL AND CAROLYN RISER FIXED
THEIR MARRIAGES, BUT THE SAD
THING IS MANY COUPLES DO
NOT.
IN FACT, HALF OF ALL
MARRIAGES END IN DIVORCE.
THAT IS A STARTLING
STATISTIC, ISN'T IT?
BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE
THAT WAY, AND OUR NEXT GUEST
SHOWS US WHY.
THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS
THAT CAN TAKE THE FOCUS
AGAINST YOUR RELATIONSHIP.
PHILIP AND HOLLY WAGNER AND
THE PASTORS OF OASIS CHURCH
IN LAS VEGAS.
IN HIS NEW BOOK, HE SHARES
10 AREAS THAT HELPED KEEP
LIKE 28-YEAR MARRIAGE STRONG
AND CAN HELP STRENGTHEN YOUR
MARRIAGE, TOO.
Terry: PHILIP AND HOLLY
WAGNER ARE HERE.
AND HAPPY ANNIVERSARY
TOMORROW.
28 YEARS.
YAY, WE DID IT.
IN HOLLYWOOD, THAT IS A
LIFETIME.
Terry: I WAS GOING TO
SAY, YOU MAY BE THE ONLY
ONES.
I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT HOW WE PERCEIVE
MARRIAGE, THOUGH.
I DON'T THINK ANYBODY GETS
MARRIED, CONSCIOUSLY SAYING,
I SURE HOPE THIS WORKS OUT,
AND IF IT DOESN'T, WE'LL
JUST GET A DIVORCE.
EVERYBODY THINKS THEIR
RELATIONSHIP IS SPECIAL, AND
THEIRS IS GOING TO BE THE
ONE THAT SURVIVES.
IN PRETTY SHORT ORDER, WE
FIND OUT WE'RE PRETTY MUCH
LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
TELL US ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE
ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.
WE'RE LIKE EVERYONE
ELSE.
WE HAD THE ROMANTIC IDEA OF
IT, AND THE SORT OF NAIVE,
AND THEN WHEN YOU FIND OUT
YOU HAVE REAL DIFFERENCES
AND THERE IS SOME WORK TO
DO, MOST PEOPLE THINK, MAYBE
I MARRIED THE WRONG PERSON.
OR THIS
SHOULDN'T BE THIS
HARD.
EVERYBODY
THINKS
THAT
AT
SOME
POINT,
I
MARRIED THE
WRONG PERSON.
BECAUSE AMERICA HAS -- WE
TEACH THIS
MENTALITY THERE
IS ONE PERSON OUT THERE
FOR
YOU AND YOU
HAVE TO FIND
THEM.
AND IF YOU START HAVING
CONFLICTS, YOU GO, AH, WRONG
PERSON!
WHO IS THAT GUY AND WHAT WAS
I THINKING.
Terry: HOLLY, A LOT OF
WOMEN, I THINK, HAVE VERY
HIGH EMOTIONAL AND ROMANTIC
EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THEIR
RELATIONSHIP, KIND OF
UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS IN
SOME WAYS.
YEAH.
IT IS UNFAIR.
I THINK MEN ARE WONDERFUL,
BUT --
WE ARE?
YES, BUT THEY'RE NOT
SAVIORS.
WE EXPECT THEM TO FILL EVERY
GAP IN OUR SOUL AND HEART,
AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY
DESIGNED TO DO THAT.
AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE
THINGS WE'VE HAD TO WORK ON
IN OUR MARRIAGE IS EACH OF
US BECOMING HEALTHY PEOPLE
BECAUSE TWO ACTUALLY ARE
BETTER THAN ONE.
A HALF PLUS A HALF IS NOT
BETTER THAN ONE.
Terry: AND RELIEVING
EACH OTHER FROM THE PRESSURE
OF HAVING TO BE ALL OF
THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR IN
THE CULTURE WE LIVE IN
TODAY -- FIRST OF ALL,
BECAUSE OF NO-FAULT
DIVORCE.
ALL YOU NEED TO SAY IS WE
HAVE IRRECONCILABLE
DIFFERENCES.
I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT
REALLY MEAN?
THE TRUTH IS, 28 YEARS,
WE HAVE IRRECONCILABLE
DIFFERENCES RIGHT NOW.
RIGHT THIS SECOND.
THE DIFFERENCES WE HAD
ARE SO BIG, AND THAT ALMOST
BURIED US.
AND WE LEARNED TO HONOR
THOSE DIFFERENCES, RESPECT
THEM, SEE THEM AS STRENGTHS,
AND NOT AS THINGS I NEED TO
CHANGE ABOUT HER AND SHE
NEEDS TO CHANGE ABOUT ME.
Terry: THERE IS A
NATURAL THING IN US THAT
WANTS THE OTHER PERSON TO BE
WHAT I NEED THEM TO BE.
HOW DID YOU LEAP OVER THAT
QUANTUM NEED TO A PLACE OF
HONORING AND REGARDING EACH
OTHER'S NEED?
WE CAME TO THE
UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR
DIFFERENCES ARE STRENGTH.
SHE HAS STRENGTH THAT I
DON'T HAVE, AND I HAVE
STRENGTH THAT SHE DOESN'T
HAVE.
INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CHANGE
HER, THINK ABOUT WE'RE A
TEAM.
WHICH HE DID.
TRIED.
AND I TRIED TO CHANGE
HIM.
Terry: I WAS GOING TO
SAY, WOMEN ARE FAMOUS FOR
THAT.
CAN'T WAIT TO MARRY HIM
SO I CAN FIX HIM BECAUSE GOD
KNOWS HE NEEDS IT.
I WOULD GET SO FRUSTRATING
BECAUSE I'M THIS OUTGOING
PERSON, AND HE IS THIS DEEP
THINKING, METHODICAL PERSON,
AND I KEPT THINKING, IF HE
WOULD JUST BE LIKE ME, IT
WOULD BE PERFECT.
THEN I REALIZED HIS DEMEANOR
NOR AND CALMNESS IS A
STRENGTH FOR US.
AND MY PEOPLE-MAKING AND
FRIENDLINESS IS THE STRENGTH
TO OUR MARRIAGE.
IT SOUNDS HA-HA FUN NOW, BUT
IT
WAS REALLY HARD IN THOSE
YEARS.
Terry: IT IS NOT HA-HA
FUN IN THOSE YEARS.
IT IS A DETERMINATION,
WE'RE GOING TO
WORK THIS
OUT.
I THINK IN THE BEGINNING, WE
MADE THIS AGREEMENT, DIVORCE
WAS NOT GOING TO BE AN
OPTION FOR US.
IT WAS NOT EVEN ON THE
TABLE.
SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK THIS
OUT.
WE'RE GOING TO READ BOOKS,
GO TO SEMINARS, LEARN, AND
WORK THIS OUT, UNTIL WE GET
TO A PLACE OF --
WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO
THE WORK AND REALIZE IT DOES
TAKE WORK.
BUT IT IS NOT WORK LIKE A
LIFE SENTENCE OF HARD
LABOR.
IT FEELS LIKE IT
SOMETIMES.
BUT IT IS TO WORK FOR A
GOAL.
THE GOAL IS TO ENJOY LIFE
AND ENJOY OUR MARRIAGE AND
EACH OTHER.
AND WE HAVE THAT.
WE HAVE A GREAT FRIENDSHIP
AND WE LOVE EACH OTHER.
AND WE REA REALIZE IT TAKES
SOME WORK.
Terry: YOU TALK IN YOUR
BOOK, HOW TO TURN YOUR
MARRIAGE AROUND IN 10
DAYS --
IT CAN HAPPEN.
FOR A START, ANYWAY.
Terry: YOU TALK ABOUT
10 THINGS THAT CAN TURN A
MARRIAGE AROUND.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ALL
10 OF THEM, BUT DO THE MOST
IMPORTANT ONES.
THE FIRST ONE IS HONOR.
I THINK WE DON'T UNDERSTAND
THE IMPACT OF THAT.
IT IS EASY TO HONOR SOMEBODY
WHEN THEY'RE NEW AND YOU'RE
ENGAGED.
BUT HUMAN NATURE, WE TAKE
EACH OTHER FOR GRANTED.
I BELIEVE BEHIND EVERY
MARRIAGE PROBLEM, THERE IS
AN HONOR PROBLEM.
Terry: WOW.
SO WHETHER THE STRUGGLE
IS FINANCE --
Terry: THAT'S AN
AMAZING STATEMENT.
FINANCES OR SEXUALITY,
SOMEBODY IS FEELING
DISHONORED.
SO OUR DIFFERENCES -- I WAS
LIKE, OH, YOU'RE SO
DIFFERENT, AND I WERE
DISHONOR HER.
Terry: BECAUSE IT
WASN'T THE WAY YOU ARE.
SURE.
AND SHE WOULD DO THE SAME TO
ME.
AND NOBODY IS DRAWN TO A
RELATIONSHIP WHERE YOU DON'T
FEEL HONOR.
YOU HAVE TO GET HONEST AND
THINK, HOW AM I DISHONORING
HER?
WHAT IS IT THAT I DO THAT
MAKES YOU FEEL HONORED, AND
REINVEST IN THAT.
AND
WE HAVE THOSE HARD
CONVERSATIONS.
AND THE TENDENCY IS WHEN YOU
ASK A QUESTION LIKE THAT,
WHAT AM I DOING THAT SHOWS
YOU DISHONOR OR DISRESPECT,
AND HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING
AND MY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IS
TO GET DEFENSIVE, WHICH
DOESN'T HELP.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE
CONVERSATIONS, YOU HAVE TO
GO OKAY.
Terry: IN SOME WAYS, IT
IS LIKE WE'RE LOOKING TO GET
FROM EACH OTHER WHAT WE'RE
SUPPOSED TO GET FROM
CHRIST.
AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT
THING IN OUR INDIVIDUAL
WALKS.
AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS FOR US
TO LOVE EACH OTHER.
IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING IN YOUR
MARRIAGE OR YOU JUST WANT TO
TAKE YOURS TO THE NEXT
LEVEL, GET THE WAGNER'S BOOK
AND IT'S CALLED "HOW TO TURN
YOUR MARRIAGE AROUND IN ONLY
10 DAYS."
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM: "WHATEVER THINGS
YOU ASK FOR WHEN YOU PRAY,
BELIEVE YOU HAVE THEM AND
YOU WILL RECEIVE THEM."
GOD BLESS YOU.
WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.