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The 700 Club - January 11, 2013

Marriage experts and authors Philip & Holly Wagner share the secret to their matrimonial success. Plus, A childhood of abuse is reversed into a loving relationship when a son is able to forgive his father. Read Transcript


Lee: COMING UP...

I HAD THOUGHT HE WOULD

ALWAYS BE TRUE BLUE.

Lee: BUT SHE WAS

WRONG.

I NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD

EVER CHEAT ON ME.

Lee: HOW SHE UNCOVERED

HER HUSBAND'S HIDDEN

AFFAIR.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT

WAS HAPPENING TO ME.

Lee: AND WHY SHE STAYED

WITH HIM.

PLUS, RELATIONSHIP EXPERTS,

PHILIP AND HOLLY WAGNER,

SHOW HU YO HOW YOU CAN

REKINDLE YOUR ROMANCE AND

TURN YOUR MARRIAGE AROUND IN

JUST SEVEN DAYS, ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

*

[APPLAUSE]

Gordon: WELCOME TO "THE

700 CLUB."

HE IS ONE OF THE MOST

IMPORTANT NEW FACES OF THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY, TEXAS

SENATOR TED CRUZ.

HE IS THE FIRST HISPANIC

SENATOR FROM THE LONE STAR

STATE.

Terry: AND HE IS A

RISING STAR AMONG

CONSERVATIVES.

CBN'S JOHN JESSUP TALKED TO

CRUZ ABOUT HIS PRIORITIES

AND HIS FAITH AND WHAT HE

HOPES TO ACCOMPLISH IN

WASHINGTON.

ANY TIME ANYONE SAYS

SENATOR, I TURN AROUND AND

TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHO ON

EARTH THEY'RE TALKING TO.

Reporter: THE NEW

SENATOR IS ALREADY MAKING

WAVES.

HE TELLS CBN NEWS NOT TO

EXPECT HIS CONSERVATIVE

PRINCIPLES TO WAIVER JUST

BECAUSE HE IS IN

WASHINGTON.

MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE,

WHAT I INTEND TO FIGHT FOR

IN THE U.S. SENATE IS THAT

OPPORTUNITY TO SEEK THE

AMERICAN DREAM, NOT JUST NOR

US, BUT FOR OUR KIDS AND

GRANDKIDS.

Reporter: HE TOOK THE

OATH OF OFFICE ON A FAMILY

BIBLE.

HE IS NOW ON A CRUSADE TO

REFORM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY,

PREACHING WHAT HE CALLS

OPPORTUNITY CONSERVATISM,

DESIGNED TO CROSS PARTY

LINES.

ONE OF THE TREMENDOUS

THINGS ABOUT AMERICANS, NONE

OF US WANT TO BE DEPEND ON

GOVERNMENT.

ALL OF US WANT TO STAND ON

OUR OWN FEET, PROVIDE FOR

OUR FAMILIES, AND WORK

TOWARDS THE AMERICAN DREAM.

Reporter: SENATOR CRUZ

SAYS HE IS WILLING TO CROSS

PARTY LINES AND WORK WITH

DEMOCRATS ON POLICIES THAT

GROW THE ECONOMY, UNLIKE

WHAT HE CALLS THE LOUSY DEAL

TO AVOID A FISCAL CLIFF.

IN THAT FIGHT, HE SAYS

DEMOCRATS THAT THE UPPER

HAND.

HE BELIEVES THE TABLES WILL

BE TURNED IN THE UPCOMING

DEBT CEILING.

I THINK IF CONSERVATIVES

STAND STRONG AND SAY WE'VE

GOT TO FIX THE PROBLEMS.

IT IS IMMORAL TO STRATTLE

OUR KIDS WITH THIS SERIOUS

DEBT.

Reporter: HE EVEN

SUGGESTS REFUSING TO RAISE

THE DEBT CEILING TO FORCE A

PARTIAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN

LIKE THE ONE IN 1995.

THE RESULT WAS SOME

POLITICAL PAIN, BUT THE

RESULT WAS YEAR AFTER YEAR

OF BALANCED BUDGETS, AND

SOME OF THE MOST FISCALLY

RESPONSIBLE POLICIES THIS

CONGRESS HISTORY EVER

PRODUCED.

Reporter: CRUZ CREDITS

HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH AND HIS

FATHER'S ESCAPE FROM CUBA

FOR SHAPING HIS POLITICAL

WORLD VIEW, WHICH HE SAYS

WILL GUIDE HIM AS A MEMBER

OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.

HAVING PRINCIPLED MEN AND

WOMEN IN OFFICE IS HOW WE

PROTECT OURSELVES FROM

TYRANNY.

ONE OF THE GREAT BENEFITS OF

BEING A CHILD OF A PARENT

WHO HAS FLED, YOU UNDERSTAND

HOW FRAGILE DEMOCRACY IS.

Reporter: WITH HIS

CUBAN HERITAGE, HE IS SEEN

AS A REPUBLICAN WHO COULD

PUT A DENT IN THE LATINO

VOTING BLOCK.

HE IS ALSO CONSIDERED A

POTENTIAL FRONT-RUNNER IN

2016, SOMETHING HE DOESN'T

MENTION.

I JUST WAS SWORN IN A FEW

DAYS AGO.

I HAVEN'T EVEN FOUND THE

RESTROOM.

I'M VERY MUCH FOCUSED ON

DOING THIS JOB RIGHT BEFORE

ME.

Reporter: AT LEAST FOR

NOW.

JOHN JESSUP, CBN NEWS,

CAPITOL HILL.

Gordon: HE IS STILL A

FRESHMAN SENATOR WITH A LOT

OF POTENTIAL.

YOU CAN FIND MORE OF JOHN'S

INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR CRUZ

ON CBN.COM.

ANOTHER NEWS OUT OF

WASHINGTON, A WELL-KNOWN

CHRISTIAN PASTOR WON'T BE

TAKING PART IN PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S INAUGURATION AFTER

ALL.

LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY FROM

THE CBN NEWS ROOM.

Lee: LOUIE GIGLIO HAS

DECIDED NOT TO GIVE THE

BENEDICTION AT PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S INAUGURATION

CEREMONY.

HE WITHDRAW AFTER CRITICS

CRITICIZED A CEREMONY HE

GAVE IN 1990 AGAINST

HOMOSEXUAL.

HE SAYS WE MUST LOVING BUT

AGGRESSIVELY RESPOND TO THE

AGGRESSIVE AGENDA OF NOT ONE

OR ALL.

HE SAYS, MY AIM HAS BEEN TO

CALL PEOPLE TO ULTIMATE

SIGNIFICANCE AS WE MAKE MUCH

OF JESUS CHRIST.

THE PRESIDENTIAL INAUGURAL

COMMITTEE WAS NOT AWARE OF

GIGLIO'S SERMON OR HIS

COMMENTS.

A SPOKESPERSON SAID HAD THEY

KNOWN, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE

INVITED HIM.

THE DEADLY FLU SEASON THAT

IS SWEEPING ACROSS THE

UNITED STATES IS GETTING

WORSE, AND IT HASN'T

PEAKED.

A 22-YEAR-OLD OKLAHOMA WOMAN

IS ONE OF THE LATEST TO

DIE.

AND THE DOCTORS AND

HOSPITALS ARE OVERWHELMED,

AND THE VACCINE IS SAID TO

BE IN SHORT SUPPLY.

SHACHARLENE ISRAEL HAS THAT

STORY.

IT WILL TAKE YOU PROBABLY

TWO OR THREE WEEKS TO FEEL

REALLY GOOD AGAIN.

Reporter: MANY

AMERICANS ARE FIGHTING A

LOSING BATTLE AGAINST THIS

YEAR'S FLU VIRUS.

WE ARE ALL A LITTLE

OVERWHELMED.

NOT ONLY THE PRACTITIONERS,

BUT THE CARE-GIVERS IN

GENERAL.

Reporter: DOCTORS,

HOSPITALS, AND PHARMACIES

ARE ALL STRUGGLING TO KEEP

UP.

THIS BOSTON HOSPITAL WAS

FORCED TO TURN OFFICE SPACE

INTO BED SPACE TO MAKE ROOM

FOR PATIENTS.

AND IT FEELS LIKE IT

HASN'T YET PEAKED.

WE WERE CONCERNED WE WERE

GOING TO RUN OUT OF

IN-PATIENT CAPACITY.

Reporter: MEDICAL

OFFICES ARE RUNNING OUT OF

THE FLU VACCINE.

MORE THAN 128 MILLION

VACCINE DOSES HAVE BEEN

DISTRIBUTED ACROSS THE

COUNTRY, BUT CLINICS CAN'T

KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND.

IN SUMMERVILLE,

MASSACHUSETTS --

WE EXHAUSTED OUR SUPPLY

ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK.

Reporter: IN DALLAS,

TEXAS...

WE WERE RUNNING LOW.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET A

THOUSAND DOSES.

WE'LL EVALUATE HOW MANY MORE

DOSES WE'LL BE NEEDING TO

ORDER.

RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO FILL

THE GAP.

THERE ARE A HUGE NUMBER

OF CASES.

THIS IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

Reporter: PHARMACISTS

ARE ALSO STRUGGLING TO FILL

PRESCRIPTION DRUG ORDERS.

WE WERE GOING TO GO ON A

CRUISE WITH OUR GRANDKIDS

AND DIDN'T GET TO GO.

IT WAS REALLY BAD.

PROBABLY THE SICKEST I'VE

BEEN IN 20 YEARS.

Reporter: DAN HOLSI IS

ONE OF MANY PATIENTS AT THIS

TEXAS PHARMACY, TRYING TO

GET THE DRUG, TAMIFLU.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE GETTING

24 BOXES OF THE TAMIFLU

CAPSULES, BUT WE'RE RUNNING

OUT OF THEM.

THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

WE'RE GETTING 40 OR 50

PRESCRIPTIONS FOR THEM EVERY

DAY.

Reporter: CHARLENE

ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.

Lee: AND TO MAKE

MATTERS WORSE, A NASTY

STOMACH BUG, CALLED THE

NOROVIRUS, IS ALSO

SPREADING.

IT IS EXTREMELY CONTAGIOUS.

A COLD FRONT IS BLASTING A

HUGE SECTION OF THE COUNTRY

WITH SNOW, ICE, AND FREEZING

RAIN.

SNOW SHUT DOWN INTERSTATE 5,

NORTH OF LOS ANGELES.

IT MADE FOR SLOW COMMUTES,

AND ROADS IN HIGHER

ELEVATIONS TURNED TO ICE.

FORECASTERS SAY IT IS PART

OF A GIANT COLD FRONT,

SENDING A CHILL FROM THE

ROCKIES TO THE MIDWEST.

60 MILE-AN-HOUR WINDS

TRIGGERED A MUDSLIDE IN

LOUISIANA.

RESIDENTS ARE CLEANING UP

AFTER A TWISTER TORE THROUGH

THE BATON ROUGE AREA.

OUR PATIO FURNITURE FLEW

OVER TO THE NEIGHBOR'S

YARD.

Lee: WINTER WEATHER

ADVISORIES AND WARNINGS ARE

POSTED FROM CALIFORNIA TO

MICHIGAN.

THE BIGGEST STORM TO HIT THE

MIDDLE EAST IN DECADES

JUMPED AT LEAST SIX INCHES

OF SNOW IN OF ALL PLACES,

JERUSALEM.

IT USUALLY SNOWS THERE ONCE

IN EVERY THREE OR FOUR

YEARS, BUT THIS WAS THE

BIGGEST SNOWSTORM IN 20

YEARS.

IT SHROWDE SHROWDED SITES

LIKE THE WESTERN WALL.

CHILDREN, YOUNG AND OLD,

WERE OUTSIDE BUILDING

SNOWMEN AND HAVING SNOWBALL

FIGHTS.

THE SNOW IS THE END OF THE

STORM FRONT THAT HAD BEEN

PUMMELLING THE COUNTRY FOR

FOUR DAYS.

FASCINATING, GORDON.

Gordon: THERE IS A

GREAT SHOT ON THE INTERNET

OF NETANYAHU THROWING A

SNOWBALL.

IF ANYTHING CAN SHUT DOWN

THE VIOLENCE THERE WOULD BE

SIX INCHES OF SNOW.

A WELCOME RELIEF FOR THE

CITY.

Terry: STILL AHEAD,

FROM A CHILD WHO'S FATHER

TRIED TO BURN HER, TO

ANOTHER WHO'S MOTHER THREW

HER OUT OF THE HOUSE, AND

WE'LL TAKE YOU TO AN

ORPHANAGE IN INDIA WHERE

KIDS HAVE FOUND A SAFE HOME,

AND YOU'LL MEET THE MAN WHO

RUNS IT.

Gordon: THE PASTOR IN

OUR NEXT STORY GOT OFF TO A

SLOW START IN MINISTRY.

HE WAS HOMELESS AND HAD NO

MONEY.

NOW HE RECENTLY LED A

MASSIVE PRAYER RALLY THAT

INCLUDED 17,000 PASTORS.

EPHRAIM GRAHAM HAS HIS

REMARKABLE STORY FROM NEW

DEHLI, INDIA.

I WAS 21 YEARS OLD WHEN I

STARTED.

Reporter: AT 60 YEARS

OLD, PASTOR R. ABRAHAM HAS

REACHED A MILESTONE IN HIS

MINISTRY.

HE HAS JUST WRAPPED A

FOUR-DAY MINISTRY, WHERE

WORLD PASTORS ASKED GOD FOR

PEACE IN THEIR COUNTRY.

FILLING THIS 150-ACRE FIELD

IS QUITE AN ACCOMPLISHMENT

IN A NATION WHERE THE

CHRISTIAN POPULATION IS ONLY

A LITTLE MORE THAN 2%.

AND FOR THE POPULAR HOMETOWN

PASTOR WHO DIDN'T WANT TO

LEAVE HIS JOB AS A CHEMIST

NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO.

I COULDN'T EVEN HAVE A

CAR.

YOU KNOW, TO HAVE A CAR IN

'74, WAS A BIG DEAL.

IT WAS A PRETTY HIGH-PAYING

JOB IN THOSE DAYS.

AND SO YOU FEEL LIKE YOUR

LIFE IS SECURE.

AND GOD SPOKE TO ME, ALMOST

LIKE AN AUDIBLE VOICE.

Reporter: WHAT DID HE

SAY?

GOD SAID TO ME, SON, I

HAVE CALLED YOU FOR A REALLY

SPECIFIC PERSON.

I WANT YOU TO RESIGN YOUR

JOB, GET OUT OF YOUR HOME,

AND GO PREACH THE GOSPEL TO

YOUR PEOPLE.

I SAID, WHOA!

Reporter: THOUGH HE HAD

NO IDEA HOW TO PREACH,

PASTOR ABRAHAM OBEYED THE

CALL.

JUST MONTHS INTO HIS

MINISTRY, HE WAS BROKE,

HOMELESS, AND HUNGRY.

HAVING SOMETHING TO EAT

WAS THE BIGGEST MIRACLE IN

MY LIFE IN THOSE DAYS.

AND IN THE NIGHT, I HAD NO

PLACE TO GO.

SO I USED TO WAIT FOR THE

SHOPS TO PULL DOWN THEIR

SHUTTERS SO I COULD SLEEP IN

FRONT OF THE SHOPS.

AND EVEN IMAGINE, AND I

STARTED COULD WONDER, WHY

DID YOU CALL ME?

WHY?

Reporter: AFTER TWO

YEARS OF PRAYER AND

PATIENCE, PASTOR ABRAHAM

JOINED FORCES WITH ANOTHER

MINISTER TO START "NEW INDIA

CHURCH OF GOD."

THE ORGANIZATION NOW REACHES

ACROSS INDIA, TO MORE THAN

3,000 CHURCHES.

I HAVE ALWAYS RESPONDED

TO THE LEADING OF GOD, AND

ALSO RESPONDED TO THE

NEEDS.

IT IS A NEED FOR ME TO DO

WHATEVER YOU SAY BECAUSE OF

THE NEED BEFORE MY EYES.

*

Reporter: THIS

ORPHANAGE IS ONE OF THOSE

NEEDS.

HERE AT BETHESDA, WHICH

MEANS HOUSE OF MERCY, LITTLE

GIRLS RECITE SCRIPTURE WITH

A SMILE.

THAT SMILE ALSO HIDES THE

PAIN AS THEY SHARE THEIR

HORRIBLE STORIES OF ABUSE.

CHAVANI REMEMBERS HER DAD

POURING KEROSENE ON HER MOM

AND BURNING HER TO DEATH.

8-YEAR-OLD HANU RECALLS HER

MOM BEING DRUNK AND THROWING

HER OUT OF THE HOUSE.

THEIR STORIES ARE TOO

FAMILIAR IN A COUNTRY WHERE

PARENTS OFTEN PREFER HAVING

BABY BOYS.

THAT JUST TORE MY HEART

APART.

I JUST STOOD THERE AND CRIED

AND CRIED.

AND THE LORD WAS TELLING ME,

WELL, WHO IS GOING TO TAKE

CARE OF THEM.

FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN

MY LIFE, I OFFERED THAT I'LL

TAKE IT UP.

Reporter: HE NOW HAS 14

ORPHANAGES, AND HE HAS

PARTNERED WITH CBN'S

"ORPHANS' PROMISE."

BIG THINGS OFTEN START

SMALL, AND PASTOR ABRAHAM'S

ORPHANAGE DID JUST THAT.

IT BEGAN 10 YEARS AGO, THE

ORPHANAGE WAS RENTING OUT

TWO ROOMS INSIDE THIS

BUILDING.

IT NOW HAS TWO BUILDINGS,

ONE FOR THE ORPHANAGE AND

THE OTHER FOR BIBLE SCHOOL.

THIS IS ONE OF THE

MINISTRY'S 16 BIBLE

COLLEGES.

THERE ARE ALSO SIX CHRISTIAN

SCHOOLS.

WE VISITED A PRIMARY

SCHOOL.

*

Reporter: AND A HIGH

SCHOOL WITH PASTOR ABRAHAM.

I AM TOTALLY COMMITTED TO

HELP THESE CHILDREN.

I'VE REALLY GOT A HEART FOR

THE CHILDREN.

YOU KNOW?

I WANT TO DO THE BEST.

Reporter: PASTOR

ABRAHAM HAS A HEART FOR

INDIAN PEOPLE, YOUNG AND

OLD.

HIS LATEST PROJECT IS

BUILDING A RETIREMENT HOME

FOR AGING PASTORS.

THE PASTORS HERE IN

INDIA, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY

PENSION.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY LIFE

INSURANCE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SOCIAL

SECURITY.

THE ONLY THING IS, THEY ARE

EITHER LOOKED AFTER BY THE

CHILDREN OR THEY ARE OUT ON

THE STREETS.

Reporter: THE PASTOR

HAS LIVED ON THE STREETS,

AND DOESN'T WANT TO SEE

ANYONE THERE.

AT 60, HE SAYS HE HAS GOT AT

LEAST ANOTHER 40 YEARS TO

REACH THEM WITH THE GOSPEL

AND A HEAVENLY HOME.

AS LONG AS YOU ARE READY0

AND WILLING, YOU KNOW, TO DO

GOD'S WILL, THAT'S THE MOST

IMPORTANT THING.

Reporter: EPHRAIM

GRAHAM, CBN NEWS, NEW DEHLI,

INDIA.

Gordon: JUST BE READY

AND WILLING TO DO GOD'S

WILL.

WE LOVE PASTOR ABRAHAM.

HE HAS BEEN A LONG-TIME

PARTNER WITH US IN MINISTRY

IN INDIA.

HIS SON WENT TO REGENT

UNIVERSITY, AND

CONGRATULATIONS ON SUCH AN

INCREDIBLE CAREER IN

MINISTRY, AND HOW FAR HE HAS

GONE IN THOSE DECADES.

Terry: A WONDERFUL

MAN.

YOU KNOW, HE SAYS IT IS

SIMPLE, AND, OF COURSE, IT

IS NEVER SIMPLE ON A MOMENT

TO MOMENT BASIS.

BUT WHEN GOD HAS SPOKEN TO

HIM, HE HAS SAID YES AND

MOVED.

AND THAT PRINCIPLE WORKS FOR

EVERYBODY.

Gordon: REGARDLESS OF

WHERE YOU ARE, HERE IN

AMERICA OR IN INDIA.

Terry: HOW WONDERFUL HE

IS.

UP NEXT, WHEN IT CAME TO

SPEAKING IN PUBLIC, TWO

WORDS CROSSED THIS YOUNG

MAN'S MIND.

FRIGHTENED, TERRIFIED.

Terry: HOW HE OVERCAME

HIS GREATEST FEAR WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Gordon: THE NUMBER ONE

FEAR IN AMERICA IS CALLED

GLOSOPHOBIA.

WE KNOW IT BETTER AS

SPEAKING IN PUBLIC.

FOR MANY, THE IDEA OF BEING

IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE

GIVES THEM BUTTERFLIES,

SWEATY PALMS, AND SOMETIMES

A PANIC ATTACK.

FOR YOUNG JOEL GREGORY, THAT

FEAR NEARLY CAUSED HIM TO

MISS OUT ON A LIFE-CHANGING

OPPORTUNITY.

Reporter: SHAREE AND

JOHN DESCRIBE THEIR

6-YEAR-OLD SON, JOEL, AS FUN

AND OUTGOING.

SO WHEN IT WAS TIME TO SIGN

UP FOR THEIR CHURCH'S EASTER

PROGRAM, THEY WERE SURE JOEL

WERE JUMP AT THE CHANCE.

THERE WAS JUST ONE PROBLEM.

HE HAS A FEAR OF STANDING

IN FRONT OF A GROUP OF

PEOPLE AND PERFORMING.

Reporter: JOEL HAD HIS

OWN WORDS TO DESCRIBE HOW HE

FELT.

FRIGHTENED, TERRIFIED.

Reporter: ALTHOUGH JOHN0ñpñ

AND SHAREE TRIED AND TRIED

TO CONVINCE HIM IT WOULD BE

FUN, JOEL WOULD HAVE NO PART

OF IT.

THE OTHER KIDS PRACTICED

FOR TWO MONTHS, AND I

REFUSED.

Reporter: ABOUT THAT

TIME, JOEL AND HIS SISTER

STARTED WATCHING

"SUPERBOOK."

JOEL LOVED WATCHING THE

"SUPERBOOK" CHARACTERS,

CHRIS, JOY, AND GIZMO.

WE PUT IT IN, AND HE

WATCHED IT OVER AND OVER AND

OVER.

AND SO DID OUR DAUGHTER,

SAYLA.

AND THEY WATCHED IT PROBABLY

50 TIMES THAT FIRST WEEK AT

LEAST.

Reporter: PRETTY SOON

HE MEMORIZED THE WHOLE

EPISODE WORD FOR WORD.

THAT GAVE JOHN AN IDEA.

WE WERE WATCHING IT ONE

DAY, AND MY HUSBAND TURNED

TO JOEL, AND HE SAID, LOOK,

JOEL, CHRIS WAS AFRAID TO

PERFORM, BUT WHAT DID DAVID

TELL HIM?

HE SAID, HE TOLD HIM TO DO

IT FOR GOD.

AND HE SAID, THAT'S RIGHT,

YOU SHOULDN'T BE AFRAID

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE DOING IT

FOR GOD, IT WILL BE OKAY.

THE PASTOR WALKED UP TO

US AND SAID, JOEL WANTS TO

PERFORM AND HE IS NOT GOING

TO BE AFRAID.

MY HUSBAND AND I CRIED

BECAUSE WE KNEW HOW MUCH

COURAGE IT WAS TAKING FOR

HIM TO EVEN SAY THAT.

Reporter: AFTER JUST 10

MINUTES OF PRACTICE, JOEL

PERFORMED HIS PART

PERFECTLY.

JOEL SAYS WATCHING

"SUPERBOOK" TOLD HIM NOT TO

BE AFRAID AND TO TRUST GOD.

WE JUST STARTED WATCHING

"SUPERBOOK," AND THAT JUST

ENCOURAGED ME.

Gordon: "SUPERBOOK," IT

IS CHANGING LIVES.

IT IS ENCOURAGING CHILDREN

AROUND THE WORLD.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO

DO.

WE WANT TO TAKE THE STORIES

OF THE BIBLE INTO 38

DIFFERENT LANGUAGES BY JUNE

OF THIS YEAR.

THAT'S WHERE WE'LL BE.

WE'LL BE BROADCASTING AROUND

THE WORLD.

WE'VE ALREADY BEEN

BROADCASTING THE SERIES HERE

IN THE UNITED STATES ON ABC

FAMILY, AND WE WANT TO SEE

IT GO AROUND THE WORLD.

OUR GOAL OVER THE NEXT FIVE

YEARS IS FOR 300 MILLION

CHILDREN TO SEE THE

"SUPERBOOK" CARTOON SERIES.

AND WE NEED HELP IN THIS.

WE NEED HELP WITH THE

TRANSLATION COSTS, THE

DISTRIBUTION COSTS, AND THE

PRODUCTION OF SERIES TWO AND

THREE.

WE ARE JUST KICKING THAT OFF

THIS MONTH.

WE NEED HELP WITH ALL OF

THAT.

SO WE'RE ASKING YOU TO

CONTRIBUTE, TO JOIN WITH US,

TO SAY, YES, I WANT TO BE A

PART OF "SUPERBOOK."

HOW MUCH?

WE'RE ASKING FOR $25.

AND FOR A GIFT OF $25, WE'LL

SEND YOU OUT THE LATEST

EPISODE, WHICH IS THE STORY

OF JACOB AND ESAU.

AND IF YOU JOIN THE

"SUPERBOOK" D.V.D. CLUB,

YOU'LL GET EACH EPISODE AS

IT IS RELEASED EVERY FOUR TO

SIX WEEKS.

AND YOU WON'T JUST GET ONE

COPY, BUT YOU'LL GET THREE

SO YOU CAN SHARE WITH FAMILY

AND FRIENDS AND YOUR

SHURCH.

W YOUR -- CHURCH.

IF YOU WANT TO GET THESE FOR

YOUR CHILDREN AND YOUR

FAMILY, BE PART OF IT.

JOIN THE CLUB, AND THAT WAY

YOU'RE SURE YOU CAN GET EACH

EPISODE AS IT COMES OUT.

IF YOU WANT TO GET CAUGHT UP

IN THE SERIES, JACOB AND

ESAU IS THE 11th VERSION

OF "SUPERBOOK," THE 11th

SHOW IN SEASON ONE.

IF YOU WANT TO GET CAUGHT

UP, GO TO cbn.com, AND

THERE IS A WAY YOU CAN ORDER

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DO IT NOW.

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TERRY?

Terry: COMING UP, A WAR

HERO RETURNS HOME AS A VERY

DIFFERENT MAN.

I WOULD HEAR THE CAR DOOR

SLAM, AND I KNEW I WAS IN

TROUBLE FOR SOMETHING I

HADN'T EVEN DONE.

Terry: HEAR HOW THIS

FAMILY WON THE BATTLE ONCE

AND FOR ALL.

THAT'S LATER ON TODAY'S

SHOW.

Lee: WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST

SUFFER DAILY IN

INTERROGATION, ARREST, AND

EVEN DEATH IN AT LEAST 60

COUNTRIES.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO "OPEN

DOORS U.S.A.," WHICH HAS

RELEASED ITS ANNUAL WATCH

LIST OF THE WORLDS 50 WORST

OFFENDERS.

CHRISTIANS IN AFRICA ARE

WITNESSING A SIGNIFICANT

SURGE IN PERSECUTION.

MALI JUMPED FROM UNRANKED TO

NUMBER SEVEN.

TANZANIA, YUGOSLAVIA, AND

NIGERIA ALSO JOINED THE

LIST.

AND ETHIOPIA CLIMBED FROM

NUMBER 38 TO 15.

BUT NORTH KOREA CONTINUES TO

BE THE WORST COUNTRY IN THE

WORLD TO BE A CHRISTIAN.

IT TOPPED THE CHART FOR THE

11th YEAR IN A ROW,

FOLLOWED BY SAUDI ARABIA,

AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ, AND

SOMALIA.

AND IN THOSE NATIONS, OPEN

DOORS SAYS EXTREME ISLAM

POSSESS THE LARGEST THREAT

FOR CHRISTIANS.

"OPERATION BLESSING" IS

EQUIPPING THOUSANDS OF

PEOPLE WITH MARKETABLE JOB

SKILLS AND SMALL BUSINESS

OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH

MICROENTERPRISE PROJECTS.

RECENTLY A BAKERY WORKSHOP

HELPED A TEENAGER IN PERU

START HIS OWN BUSINESS.

MIGUEL WANTED TO GO TO

COLLEGE, BUT CAN'T AFFORD

IT.

HE ATTENDED THE WORKSHOP,

AND AT THE END, "OPERATION

BLESSING" HELPED HIM AND HIS

CLASSMATES OPEN A COMMUNITY

BAKERY.

O.B. SUPPLIED THEM WITH SIX

MONTHS TO GET STARTED.

AND NOW MIGUEL IS EARNING

ENOUGH MONEY SO HE CAN SAVE

TO GO TO COLLEGE.

YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE ABOUT

"OPERATION BLESSING" BY

GOING TO OB.ORG.

STAY TUNED, GORDON AND TERRY

WILL BE BACK WITH MORE OF

"THE 700 CLUB" RIGHT AFTER

THIS.

Lee: NEXT WEEK...

I FELT LIKE I HAD HOLES

IN MY POCKET.

IT SEEMED LIKE I COULDN'T

HOLD ON TO MONEY.

Lee: ARE YOU LOOKING

FOR A FINANCIAL

BREAKTHROUGH?

A LITTLE OVER 100,000

DOLLARS IN DEBT.

SOMETHING WOULD ALWAYS

COME UP.

Lee: THESE PEOPLE FOUND

IT.

IT WOULD ALWAYS SEEM LIKE

ANY TIME WE WERE IN REAL

NEED, SOMEONE WOULD CALL US

AND WE WOULD HAVE WHAT WE

NEEDED.

Lee: GET THEIR SECRET.

YOU WILL BE BLESSED FOR

IT.

HE KEEPS HIS PROMISES.

Lee: NEXT WEEK ON "THE

700 CLUB."

Gordon: CHRIS DUFRY IS

KNOWN FOR PREACHING AND

SINGING ALL OVER THE WORLD

ABOUT THE FATHER HEART OF

GOD.

EVEN THOUGH WHEN HE WAS

GROWING UP, ALL CHRIS KNEW

WAS HIS OWN FATHER'S WRATH.

MY FIRST LESSON IN

PHYSICS, FORCE, SPEED, CAME

WHEN I WAS FOUR YEARS OLD.

WHEN YOUR DAD HITS YOU WITH

A CERTAIN DEGREE OF FORCE,

YOU END UP ON THE FLOOR

REALLY HARD.

MY DAD WAS A WORLD WAR II

VET.

HE ENDED UP ON A B-17 AS A

BOMBBADIER.

HE WAS SHOT DOWN AND BROKE

HIS LEG IN FIVE PIECES.

HE ENDED IN A FRENCH

UNDERGROUND.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE

MEDICATION.

SO THEY GAVE HIM TO THE

NAZIS.

THEY PUT A CAST ON HIM, BUT

HE WAS ABUSED IN 1945 UNTIL

GENERAL PATTON LIBERATED HIS

CAMP.

HE WAS KNOWN AS NICE-GUY

DAVE, AND HE CAME OUT OF THE

WAR AS TWO DIFFERENT

PEOPLE.

I WOULD LOOK THROUGH THE

WINDOW AND SEE THE KIDS

LAUGHING WHILE HE WAS AT HIS

DESK.

IT LOOKED LIKE HE WAS HAVING

A WONDERFUL TIME.

BUT I KNEW THAT SAME MAN

WOULD DRIVE IN THE DRIVEWAY

AND I WOULD HEAR THE DOOR

SLAM AND I KNEW I WOULD BE

IN TROUBLE FOR SOMETHING I

HADN'T EVEN DONE.

I BECAME THE SCAPE FOR HIS

ANGER AND ABUSE HE COULD NOT

SHOW IN SCHOOL.

I'M IN THE KITCHEN AND I'M

LITERALLY FLYING ACROSS THE

KITCHEN, AND HIT THE WALL AS

MY MOM CAME BACK FROM

SHOPPING.

IT WAS AT THAT POINT -- SHE

FINALLY SAW SOMETHING

HAPPEN, AND SHE TOOK THE

THREE KIDS AWAY.

AND WE MOVED AN HOUR AWAY.

LIFE BECAME VERY DIFFERENT.

IT WAS A LOVING HOME.

SHE TAKES MY HAND AND LEADS

ME IN ONE OF THE MOST

SIMPLE, BEAUTIFUL SINNER'S

PRAYER.

I PRAYED AND AGREED WITH

EVERYTHING SHE SAID.

THEN ONE DAY THE LORD JUST

SAID TO ME, I WANT YOU TO

FORGIVE YOUR FATHER.

AND I SAID, LORD, I'M REALLY

TRYING.

AND HE SAID, NO, FACE TO

FACE.

AND THAT'S WHEN IT GOT

REALLY REAL.

IT WAS JULY 4th, 1982.

I WALKED OVER TO MY DAD, AND

I GO, UM, DAD, I JUST WANTED

TO TELL YOU THAT I LOVE YOU

AND I FORGIVE YOU FOR

EVERYTHING THAT EVER

HAPPENED.

AND HE SAID NOTHING.

AND I PUT MY ARM AROUND MY

DAD, AND I JUST TOUCHED HIS

SHOULDER.

THE SECOND I TOUCHED HIS

SHOULDER, HE BEGAN TO WEEP.

AND HE BEGAN TO BEND OVER

WEEPING AND WEEPING.

HE TAKES HIS LEFT HAND AND

PUTS IT AROUND MY WAIST TO

HOLD HIMSELF UP.

THE SECOND HE TOUCHED MY

WAIST, I BEGAN TO WEEP.

THEN I JUST TURNED AND I PUT

MY ARMS AROUND HIM AND I

HUGGED HIM.

AND THEN I WALKED AWAY.

AND WE NEVER TALKED ABOUT

THAT MOMENT.

BUT THAT NIGHT, WHEN I WENT

TO GO SAY GOOD NIGHT, NO

LONGER DID I JUST SHAKE HIS

HAND.

I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT

IT.

IT CAME TIME TO SAY

GOOD-BYE, AND I REACHED OVER

AND I GAVE HIM THIS BIG BEAR

HUG.

AND HE GOES, WHOA, WHOA,

THAT'S DIFFERENT.

HE GOES, WAIT A MINUTE, COME

HERE.

AND I BEAR HUGGED HIM AGAIN,

AND HE HUGS ME, AND HE SAYS,

LET'S DO THIS.

LET'S DO THIS EVERY TIME.

THE DOCTOR, THE ATTENDING

PHYSICIAN, THE RESIDENT, THE

ANESTHESIOLOGIST WERE ALL

SURROUNDING HIS LITTLE BED.

I JUST KIND OF LEANED OVER

AND GRABBED HIS HAND LIKE

THIS, AND I GO, LOVE YOU,

DAD.

HE LOOKS AT ME AND GOES, WE

DON'T DO THIS.

AND HE JUST GRABS MY FACE

AND STARTS KISSING ME IN

FRONT OF THE DOCTORS.

HE TURNS MY HEAD AND GOES,

THIS IS MY SON.

AND HE LOOKS AT THE DOCTOR

AND GOES, HE IS GREAT, AND I

LOVE HIM.

AND HE PUTS ME DOWN.

THEY TAKE THE STRETCHER AND

THEY START TO WHEEL THEM

AWAY, AND MY FATHER YELLS

OUT STOP, I CAN'T SEE MY

SON.

TURN THE STRETCHER AROUND.

SO THEY TURN THE STRETCHER

AROUND, AND THE GIRL IS

PULLING HIM BACK, AND HE IS

BLOWING KISSES.

MY EYES START TO FILL UP

WITH TEARS, AND SO I BLOW

HIM KISSES, AND HE BLOWS ME

KISSES, AND HE TAKES HIS

FINGER AND BEGINS TO KISS

HIS FINGER AND KISSES THE

OTHER ONE AND STARTS

SHOOTING THEM.

AND THEY PUT HIM IN THE

ELEVATOR, AND I WATCH MY

DAD, AS THE DOOR IS CLOSING,

HE KISSES HIS THUMB AND PUTS

IT UP LIKE THIS AS THE DOOR

CLOSES.

SO WE WENT TO WAIT.

IT IS AN HOUR PROCEDURE, AND

A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR, AND

THEY CAME AND THE DOCTOR

CAME WITH THE AN

ANESTHESIOLOGIST, AND I

DIDN'T KNOW WHY, AND HE

SAID, WE'RE VERY SORRY TO

TELL YOU THAT MR. DUFRY

CRIED ON THE TABLE.

AND EVERY TIME I CLOSED MY

EYES, I SAW HIM KISSING ME.

EVERY TIME I CLOSED MY EYES,

I SAW HIM HOLDING MY FACE,

AND I'M SO PROUD OF HIM.

AND EVERY DAY I'M CONVINCED

THAT'S HOW MY PAPA SEES ME.

NOT JUST MY EARTHLY FATHER,

BUT MY HEAVENLY FATHER,

TOO.

HE TURNS TO ME AND SAYS,

THAT'S MY BOY.

I LOVE THIS KID.

I LOVE HIM.

I KNOW THAT MY GOD IS --

HE'S CRAZY ABOUT ME.

I'M HIS BOY.

I'M HIS LOVED ONE, AND I

DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING TO

PROVE IT.

MY LIFE IS NOT A LIFE OF

PROVING SOMETHING.

IT IS A LIFE OF LIVING OUT

OF PEACE BECAUSE I'M ALREADY

LOVED.

Gordon: YOU CAN HAVE

THAT SAME EXPERIENCE, A LIFE

OF PEACE BECAUSE YOU'RE

LIVING OUT OF LOVE.

AND YOU HAVE THE ASSURANCE

THAT GOD LOVES YOU.

THAT HE'S NOT ANGRY AT YOU.

HE IS HOLDING NOTHING

AGAINST YOU.

YOU HAVE THAT ASSURANCE DEEP

WITHIN YOUR OWN HEART, THAT

YOU KNOW GOD IS BRAGGING

ABOUT YOU.

AND HE IS SAYING, LOOK,

THERE IS UNDERSTANDING.

LOOK AT WHAT THEY CAN DO.

LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING

FOR ME.

LOOK AT ALL OF THE WONDERFUL

THINGS MY CHILDREN ARE UP

TO.

THAT'S WHAT GOD IS THINKING

ABOUT YOU.

WHEN WE START UNDERSTANDING

LOVE KEEPS NO RECORD OF

WRONGS, NONE, NO RECORD.

WHEN WE UNDERSTAND

EVERYTHING HAS BEEN CAST

INTO THE DEEPEST PART OF THE

SEA, AND THAT HE REMEMBERS

THEM NO MORE.

WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT,

IT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST

REVELATIONS YOU CAN HAVE

BECAUSE THEN YOU FINALLY

UNDERSTAND NOTHING SEPARATES

YOU FROM THE LOVE OF GOD.

THAT THE WAY HAS BEEN MADE

WIDE OPEN.

JESUS PAID THE COST.

HE PAID FOR EVERYTHING.

AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS

BELIEVE THAT.

AND WALK IN THAT.

NOW, WHAT DOES THE WORLD

WANT US TO THINK?

THE WORLD WANTS US TO THINK

THAT SOMEHOW WE'RE SEPARATED

FROM GOD.

THAT WE CAN'T HEAR HIM AND

WE CAN'T FEEL HIM.

EVEN THOUGH HE IS ALL AROUND

US, AND IN HIM WITH LIVE AND

MOVE AND HAVE OUR BEING.

SOMEHOW WE THINK, NO, WE'RE

SEPARATED, THAT GOD IS WAY

OFF IN HEAVEN SOMEWHERE,

THAT HE IS NOT WITH US, AND

WE DON'T UNDERSTAND HEAVEN

IS IN OUR MIDST.

AND HEAVEN IS WITHIN US.

JESUS CAME TO GIVE YOU A

GREAT GIFT, AND THAT GIFT IS

TO WIPE AWAY EVERY SIN,

EVERYTHING YOU'VE EVER DONE

WRONG, AND TO MAKE YOU

JUSTIFIED.

AND I LIKE TO PUT IT JUST AS

IF YOU NEVER DID IT.

NOW, IMAGINE THAT YOU'VE

NEVER SINNED, THAT YOU'VE

NEVER MADE A MISTAKE, THAT

YOU'VE NEVER FALLEN SHORT,

THAT YOU'VE NEVER MISSED THE

MARK.

JUST IMAGINE WHAT THAT WOULD

DO FOR YOU.

AND HOW THAT WOULD GIVE YOU

A CONFIDENCE AND A PEACE AND

AN ASSURANCE.

AND NOW START THINKING ABOUT

YOU HAVE NEVER CONDEMNED

YOURSELF.

YOU HAVE NEVER LOOKED IN THE

MIRROR AND SAID, WHY DID I

DO THAT?

YOU'VE NEVER HAD A REGRET.

IMAGINE WHAT YOUR LIFE WOULD

BE LIKE.

WELL, THAT'S WHAT GOD CAME

TO DO.

THAT'S WHAT JESUS CAME TO

DO.

AND HIS MESSAGE IS VERY

CLEAR: CHANGE YOUR THINKING

AND BELIEVE THE GOOD NEWS.

AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU

GIVE YOURSELF ONE OF THE

GREATEST GIFTS, THE GIFT OF

FORGIVENESS.

AND THEN FROM THAT PLACE OF

FORGIVENESS, YOU'RE ABLE TO

FORGIVE THE PEOPLE AROUND

YOU, AND YOU'RE ABLE TO SAY

I FORGIVE THEM, I SET THEM

FREE, I HOLD NOTHING AGAINST

THEM.

I WANT THEM TO HAVE THE SAME

JOY, THE SAME LOVE, THE SAME

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD THAT I

HAVE.

SO REALIZE THIS IS GOOD

NEWS, AND IT'S THE BEST NEWS

THE WORLD HAS EVER HEARD.

AND IT'S SO GOOD THAT WE

HAVE TROUBLE BELIEVING IT.

AND WE WANT TO STAY IN A

PLACE OF CONDEMNATION.

WE WANT TO STAY IN A PLACE

WHERE WE'VE GOT TO EARN

GOD'S FAVOR.

AND WE HAVE TO DO ALL OF THE

RIGHT THINGS AT ALL OF THE

RIGHT TIMES.

AND IF WE MISS, WE THINK

SOMEHOW GOD IS ANGRY AND GOD

IS UPSET, AND GOD DOESN'T

WANT US ANYMORE.

REALIZE THE GOD NEWS IS FOR

YOU.

AND THAT THIS IS LOVE.

THAT WHILE WE WERE YET

SINNERS, CHRIST DIED FOR

US.

AND THAT MEANS YOU.

REALIZE THAT GOD SO LOVED

THE WORLD -- THAT'S YOU, HE

LOVED YOU -- THAT HE GAVE

HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, AND

THAT WHO SO EVER -- THAT'S

YOU, TOO -- WOULD BELIEVE IN

HIM, THAT THEY WOULD HAVE

ETERNAL LIFE.

THEY WOULDN'T PERISH, BUT

THEY WOULD BE WITH GOD FOR

ALL ETERNITY.

ALL OF THAT IS FOR YOU.

AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO

RECEIVE IT IS TO BELIEVE

IT.

WHO SO EVER WOULD BELIEVE ON

HIM.

NOW, IF THIS IS FOR YOU, IF

YOU'VE NEVER HEARD THIS

BEFORE -- AND EVEN IF YOU

HAVE HEARD IT BEFORE AND

YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE

BELIEVING IT -- MAYBE YOU

WALKED YOUR OWN WAY AND

STARTED DOING YOUR OWN

THING, THERE IS STILL GOOD

NEWS FOR YOU.

GOD STILL LOVES YOU.

NOTHING CAN SEPARATE YOU

FROM HIS LOVE.

TO GET IT, ALL YOU HAVE TO

DO IS ASK.

TO TURN TO HIM AND SAY,

LORD, I WANT YOU.

I WANT TO FEEL YOUR LOVE.

I WANT TO FEEL YOUR

PRESENCE.

I WANT YOU IN MY LIFE.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS ASK.

SO IF THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT,

DON'T TURN AWAY.

DON'T LET ANOTHER DAY GO BY

WHERE YOU FEEL SOMEHOW

YOU'RE ORPHANED AND

SEPARATED FROM GOD.

YOU CAN HAVE AN EXPERIENCE

WITH HIM THAT WILL LAST A

LIFETIME, THAT WILL BE WITH

YOU EVERY MOMENT, AND THAT

HE'LL NEVER LEAVE YOU, HE'LL

NEVER FORSAKE YOU.

AND YOU CAN HAVE IT ALL JUST

BY ASKING.

SO PRAY WITH ME.

AND LET'S JUST BELIEVE GOD.

AND LET'S RECEIVE THE

GREATEST GIFT THE WORLD HAS

EVER HEARD ABOUT.

PRAY WITH ME.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHTS, SAY

HIS NAME.

SAY IT OUT LOUD.

JESUS, I COME TO YOU AND I

HEAR ABOUT THIS LOVE, ABOUT

THIS FORGIVENESS, ABOUT THIS

GIFT THAT YOU HAVE FOR ME.

AND, JESUS, I WANT THAT.

I WANT YOU TO BE IN MY

LIFE.

I WANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICE.

I WANT TO FEEL YOUR

PRESENCE.

I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE

GREATNESS OF YOUR LOVE

TOWARDS ME.

SO, JESUS, HEAR MY PRAYER.

FORGIVE ME OF THE THINGS

THAT I'VE DONE WRONG.

SET ME FREE FROM

CONDEMNATION, FROM GUILT,

FROM SHAME.

LET ME KNOW YOUR

RIGHTEOUSNESS, YOUR PEACE,

AND YOUR JOY.

DO IT, LORD, BE IN MY LIFE.

I WANT TO FOLLOW YOU ALL OF

THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.

HEAR MY PRAYER, FOR I PRAY

IT IN JESUS' NAME.

FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO JUST

PRAYED, I ASK FOR A BAPTISM

IN YOUR LOVE.

I ASK THAT YOU SHOW THEM HOW

MUCH YOU LOVE THEM, HOW MUCH

YOU TAKE GREAT JOY IN THEM.

GIVE THEM THE PEACE THAT

SURPASSES ALL

UNDERSTANDING.

FILL THEM WITH YOUR HOLY

SPIRIT.

DO IT NOW, FOR I ASK IT IN

JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

THE BIBLE SAYS THAT IF YOU

BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART AND

THEN CONFESS WITH YOUR

MOUTH, YOU SHALL BE SAVED.

WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO IS DO

JUST THAT, AND CONFESS WITH

YOUR MOUTH, THAT YOU JUST

PRAYED AND YOU JUST ASKED

JESUS INTO YOUR HEART.

THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.

PICK UP A PHONE AND CALL

US.

1-800-759-0700.

JUST SAY, I JUST PRAYED.

I ASKED JESUS TO COME INTO

MY HEART.

WHEN YOU CALL, I'VE GOT

SOMETHING FOR YOU.

I WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.

IT IS A PACKET WITH A C.D.

TEACHING ON HOW TO LIVE THE

CHRISTIAN LIFE.

WHAT DO YOU DO NOW?

THERE IS ALSO A BOOKLET

FILLED WITH BIBLE VERSES.

I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND,

WHAT ARE THE PILLARS OF THE

CHRISTIAN FAITH?

WHAT DO CHRISTIANS REALLY

BELIEVE?

WHAT IS THE BASIS OF OUR

SALVATION AND WHAT JESUS HAS

DONE FOR US?

I ALSO ENCOURAGE YOU TO JOIN

A LOCAL CHURCH, GO THROUGH

BAPTISM.

START WITH THAT PHONE CALL

RIGHT NOW.

DO IT NOW.

1-800-759-0700.

TERRY, OVER TO YOU.

Terry: WELL, COMING UP,

FOR THIS COUPLE, IT WAS LOVE

AT FIRST SIGHT, AND THEIR

RELATIONSHIP WENT DOWNHILL

FROM THERE.

SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT.

SOMETHING IS MISSING.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER

WAS, MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER

JUST WASN'T A PRIORITY IN MY

LIFE.

AT THAT POINT, WE WERE

LOOKING AT DIVORCE.

Terry: FIND OUT HOW HAY

FELL BACK IN LOVE.

PLUS WE HAVE SECRETS FOR A

SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE, WHEN WE

RETURN.

Terry: ONE NIGHT BILL

RISER CALLED HIS GIRLFRIEND

FROM WORK.

THERE WAS NOTHING UNUSUAL

ABOUT THAT, EXCEPT THIS TIME

BILL'S WIFE, CAROLYN, WAS

LISTENING IN THE NEXT ROOM.

Reporter: BILL AND

CAROLYN MET WHILE IN COLLEGE

AT EASTERN KENTUCKY

UNIVERSITY.

BILL WAS A BASKETBALL STAR

WITH A HARD PARTYING

LIFESTYLE.

CAROLYN WAS IN LOVE.

I WANTED TO GET TO KNOW

HIM MORE, AND I START THE

ASKING AROUND ABOUT WHO THIS

GUY WAS, THIS CUTE GUY FROM

NEW YORK.

CAROLYN WAS THE ONLY

PERSON WHO WOULD LISTEN TO

ME, AND WHO REALLY CARED FOR

ME, DESPITE WHAT I DID AND

WHO I WAS.

Reporter: AFTER

COLLEGE, THEY MOVED TO NEW

YORK, MARRIED AND HAD A

DAUGHTER.

WE WOULD ARGUE BECAUSE I

WOULD FEEL LIKE HE WASN'T

SPENDING ENOUGH TIME WITH

OUR DAUGHTER.

I WAS BASICALLY DOING

EVERYTHING TO RAISE HER.

THE FACT OF THE MATTER

WAS, MY WIFE AND MY DAUGHTER

JUST WASN'T A PRIORITY IN MY

LIFE.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT LOVE

WAS.

WHEN WE GOT MARRIED, I JUST

THOUGHT I WOULD GIVE IT A

GOOD SHOT.

Reporter: HIS BEST SHOT

WASN'T VERY GOOD.

CAROLYN REALIZED SOMETHING

WAS NOT RIGHT IN HER LIFE

AND IN LIA THEIR MARRIAGE.

SHE HAD GROWN UP AS A

CHRISTIAN, BUT PUT HIS FAITH

ASIDE SINCE SHE MET BILL.

GOD STARTED DRAWING ME

BACK TO HIM.

MY HEART WAS SEEKING AFTER

HIM.

I REALIZED, I WANT TO BE IN

RELATIONSHIP, I WANT TO BE

IN COMMUNITY, I WANT GOD

BACK IN MY LIFE.

BECAUSE I JUST FELT LIKE,

I'M SUPPOSED TO BE A

CHRISTIAN, BUT I'M NOT

ACTING LIKE IT.

SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT.

SOMETHING IS MISSING.

Reporter: CAROLYN

RECOMMITTED HER LIFE TO

CHRIST.

BILL WANTED NOTHING TO DO

WITH GOD.

HE WAS LIVING A DOUBLE LIFE,

DRINKING HEAVILY AND USING

DRUGS.

HE HAD SEVERAL AFFAIRS HE

KEPT HIDDEN FROM CAROLYN,

UNTIL ONE NIGHT SHE

OVERHEARD BILL ON A PHONE

CALL WITH HIS MISTRESS.

I NEVER THOUGHT HE WOULD

EVER CHEAT ON ME OR HAVE

AFFAIRS WITH OTHER WOMEN.

THAT IS JUST SOMETHING I

NEVER CONSIDERED.

I HAD THOUGHT HE WOULD

ALWAYS BE TRUE BLUE.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT WAS

HAPPENING TO ME.

AT THAT POINT, WE WERE

LOOKING AT DIVORCE.

ME MOVING OUT WAS THE

ONLY OPTION.

I KNEW THAT I LOST MY

DAUGHTER, I LOST MY WIFE.

AND IT WAS THE LOWEST POINT

IN MY LIFE.

BILL AND I HAD TALKED

ABOUT HAVING A MEETING TO

DISCUSS A DIVORCE, AND HOW

WE WERE GOING TO SPLIT UP

EVERYTHING.

AND I KNEW THAT I HAD TO GO

FOR COUNSEL AND PRAYER

BEFORE THAT MEETING.

SO I WENT AND THE PASTOR

PRAYED A PRAYER OVER ME.

PRAY FOR PEACE THAT

SURPASSES ALL

UNDERSTANDING.

AND I HEARD THAT PHRASE ALL

MY LIFE.

NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT

WHAT IT MEANT.

NEVER REALLY EXPERIENCED

IT.

THE PEACE I EXPERIENCED WHEN

I PRAYED TO HELP ME FORGIVE

BILL, IT IS LIKE HE SAID

YES.

AND IT WAS LIKE A WEIGHT WAS

BEING LIFTED OFF OF ME.

AND IT IS LIKE MY HEART WAS

BEING FILLED WITH LOVE.

Reporter: BILL WAS

PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT THEIR

DIVORCE.

BUT WHEN CAROLYN ENTERED THE

HOUSE, HE COULD TELL

SOMETHING HAS CHANGED.

SHE HAS NEVER STOOD

BEFORE ME WITH A CONFIDENCE

LIKE THAT.

AND WHEN HE STARTED TO

SPEAK, I KNEW THAT IT WAS

GOD SPEAKING TO ME.

SHE SAID, GOD CAN FORGIVE

YOU FOR ANYTHING THAT YOU'VE

EVER DONE, AND SO CAN I.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN EVER

FORGET THE THINGS THAT

YOU'VE DONE, BUT I'M WILLING

TO GIVE IT A TRY IF YOU'RE

WILLING TO GIVE YOUR LIFE TO

JESUS CHRIST.

I REALIZED, FOR THE FIRST

TIME IN MY LIFE, THAT GOD

LOVED ME DESPITE ME. AND I

MADE A DECISION THAT NIGHT

TO GIVE MY LIFE TO JESUS

CHRIST.

I KNEW MY MARRIAGE WASN'T

SAVED THEN -- I KNEW I HAD

DONE A LOT OF DAMAGE TO IT.

I NEEDED TO GO FIGHT FOR

THIS THING.

AND THAT'S WHAT I DID.

I SET OUT ON A JOURNEY TO GO

FIGHT FOR MY MARRIAGE AND TO

GO LOVE MY WIFE.

I THOUGHT, HOW AM I EVER

GOING TO TRUST HIM AGAIN,

KNOWING WHAT HE DID, EVEN

THOUGH I HAD FORGIVEN HIM.

AND I KNEW GOD SAID, YOU

DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

HIM.

YOU TRUST ME AND I'LL TAKE

CARE OF HIM.

AND THEN I SAW BILL CHASING

AFTER GOD, SO I'VE NEVER

LOOKED BACK.

I KNOW THAT IT IS TRULY

IMPOSSIBLE TO LOVE SOMEONE

ELSE THE WAY GOD INTENDED US

TO LOVE THAT PERSON, UNLESS

WE'VE RECEIVED THE LOVE THAT

GOD HAS FOR US, THAT CAN

ONLY COME THROUGH A

RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS SON,

JESUS CHRIST.

OUR MARRIAGE TODAY IS SO

STRONG.

WE LOVE EACH OTHER MORE THAN

WE EVER HAVE.

WITH GOD IN THE MIDDLE,

THERE IS NO SITUATION WE

CAN'T CONQUER BECAUSE GOD IS

OUR VICTOR.

I REALLY WISH PEOPLE COULD

SURRENDER THEMSELVES AND

THEIR MARRIAGES OVER TO

HIM.

BECAUSE IF HE CAN CHANGE

OURS AND RESTORE EVERYTHING,

I KNOW HE IS GOING TO DO

THAT FOR ANY AND ALL

MARRIAGES THAT ARE WILLING

TO DO THE SAME.

Terry: RESTORATION, IT

IS DIFFICULT BUT WORTH IT.

BILL AND CAROLYN RISER FIXED

THEIR MARRIAGES, BUT THE SAD

THING IS MANY COUPLES DO

NOT.

IN FACT, HALF OF ALL

MARRIAGES END IN DIVORCE.

THAT IS A STARTLING

STATISTIC, ISN'T IT?

BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE

THAT WAY, AND OUR NEXT GUEST

SHOWS US WHY.

THERE ARE SO MANY THINGS

THAT CAN TAKE THE FOCUS

AGAINST YOUR RELATIONSHIP.

PHILIP AND HOLLY WAGNER AND

THE PASTORS OF OASIS CHURCH

IN LAS VEGAS.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, HE SHARES

10 AREAS THAT HELPED KEEP

LIKE 28-YEAR MARRIAGE STRONG

AND CAN HELP STRENGTHEN YOUR

MARRIAGE, TOO.

Terry: PHILIP AND HOLLY

WAGNER ARE HERE.

AND HAPPY ANNIVERSARY

TOMORROW.

28 YEARS.

YAY, WE DID IT.

IN HOLLYWOOD, THAT IS A

LIFETIME.

Terry: I WAS GOING TO

SAY, YOU MAY BE THE ONLY

ONES.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT

ABOUT HOW WE PERCEIVE

MARRIAGE, THOUGH.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY GETS

MARRIED, CONSCIOUSLY SAYING,

I SURE HOPE THIS WORKS OUT,

AND IF IT DOESN'T, WE'LL

JUST GET A DIVORCE.

EVERYBODY THINKS THEIR

RELATIONSHIP IS SPECIAL, AND

THEIRS IS GOING TO BE THE

ONE THAT SURVIVES.

IN PRETTY SHORT ORDER, WE

FIND OUT WE'RE PRETTY MUCH

LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

TELL US ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE

ON NATIONAL TELEVISION.

WE'RE LIKE EVERYONE

ELSE.

WE HAD THE ROMANTIC IDEA OF

IT, AND THE SORT OF NAIVE,

AND THEN WHEN YOU FIND OUT

YOU HAVE REAL DIFFERENCES

AND THERE IS SOME WORK TO

DO, MOST PEOPLE THINK, MAYBE

I MARRIED THE WRONG PERSON.

OR THIS

SHOULDN'T BE THIS

HARD.

EVERYBODY

THINKS

THAT

AT

SOME

POINT,

I

MARRIED THE

WRONG PERSON.

BECAUSE AMERICA HAS -- WE

TEACH THIS

MENTALITY THERE

IS ONE PERSON OUT THERE

FOR

YOU AND YOU

HAVE TO FIND

THEM.

AND IF YOU START HAVING

CONFLICTS, YOU GO, AH, WRONG

PERSON!

WHO IS THAT GUY AND WHAT WAS

I THINKING.

Terry: HOLLY, A LOT OF

WOMEN, I THINK, HAVE VERY

HIGH EMOTIONAL AND ROMANTIC

EXPECTATIONS ABOUT THEIR

RELATIONSHIP, KIND OF

UNREALISTIC EXPECTATIONS IN

SOME WAYS.

YEAH.

IT IS UNFAIR.

I THINK MEN ARE WONDERFUL,

BUT --

WE ARE?

YES, BUT THEY'RE NOT

SAVIORS.

WE EXPECT THEM TO FILL EVERY

GAP IN OUR SOUL AND HEART,

AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY

DESIGNED TO DO THAT.

AND SO I THINK ONE OF THE

THINGS WE'VE HAD TO WORK ON

IN OUR MARRIAGE IS EACH OF

US BECOMING HEALTHY PEOPLE

BECAUSE TWO ACTUALLY ARE

BETTER THAN ONE.

A HALF PLUS A HALF IS NOT

BETTER THAN ONE.

Terry: AND RELIEVING

EACH OTHER FROM THE PRESSURE

OF HAVING TO BE ALL OF

THAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEAR IN

THE CULTURE WE LIVE IN

TODAY -- FIRST OF ALL,

BECAUSE OF NO-FAULT

DIVORCE.

ALL YOU NEED TO SAY IS WE

HAVE IRRECONCILABLE

DIFFERENCES.

I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT

REALLY MEAN?

THE TRUTH IS, 28 YEARS,

WE HAVE IRRECONCILABLE

DIFFERENCES RIGHT NOW.

RIGHT THIS SECOND.

THE DIFFERENCES WE HAD

ARE SO BIG, AND THAT ALMOST

BURIED US.

AND WE LEARNED TO HONOR

THOSE DIFFERENCES, RESPECT

THEM, SEE THEM AS STRENGTHS,

AND NOT AS THINGS I NEED TO

CHANGE ABOUT HER AND SHE

NEEDS TO CHANGE ABOUT ME.

Terry: THERE IS A

NATURAL THING IN US THAT

WANTS THE OTHER PERSON TO BE

WHAT I NEED THEM TO BE.

HOW DID YOU LEAP OVER THAT

QUANTUM NEED TO A PLACE OF

HONORING AND REGARDING EACH

OTHER'S NEED?

WE CAME TO THE

UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR

DIFFERENCES ARE STRENGTH.

SHE HAS STRENGTH THAT I

DON'T HAVE, AND I HAVE

STRENGTH THAT SHE DOESN'T

HAVE.

INSTEAD OF TRYING TO CHANGE

HER, THINK ABOUT WE'RE A

TEAM.

WHICH HE DID.

TRIED.

AND I TRIED TO CHANGE

HIM.

Terry: I WAS GOING TO

SAY, WOMEN ARE FAMOUS FOR

THAT.

CAN'T WAIT TO MARRY HIM

SO I CAN FIX HIM BECAUSE GOD

KNOWS HE NEEDS IT.

I WOULD GET SO FRUSTRATING

BECAUSE I'M THIS OUTGOING

PERSON, AND HE IS THIS DEEP

THINKING, METHODICAL PERSON,

AND I KEPT THINKING, IF HE

WOULD JUST BE LIKE ME, IT

WOULD BE PERFECT.

THEN I REALIZED HIS DEMEANOR

NOR AND CALMNESS IS A

STRENGTH FOR US.

AND MY PEOPLE-MAKING AND

FRIENDLINESS IS THE STRENGTH

TO OUR MARRIAGE.

IT SOUNDS HA-HA FUN NOW, BUT

IT

WAS REALLY HARD IN THOSE

YEARS.

Terry: IT IS NOT HA-HA

FUN IN THOSE YEARS.

IT IS A DETERMINATION,

WE'RE GOING TO

WORK THIS

OUT.

I THINK IN THE BEGINNING, WE

MADE THIS AGREEMENT, DIVORCE

WAS NOT GOING TO BE AN

OPTION FOR US.

IT WAS NOT EVEN ON THE

TABLE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK THIS

OUT.

WE'RE GOING TO READ BOOKS,

GO TO SEMINARS, LEARN, AND

WORK THIS OUT, UNTIL WE GET

TO A PLACE OF --

WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO

THE WORK AND REALIZE IT DOES

TAKE WORK.

BUT IT IS NOT WORK LIKE A

LIFE SENTENCE OF HARD

LABOR.

IT FEELS LIKE IT

SOMETIMES.

BUT IT IS TO WORK FOR A

GOAL.

THE GOAL IS TO ENJOY LIFE

AND ENJOY OUR MARRIAGE AND

EACH OTHER.

AND WE HAVE THAT.

WE HAVE A GREAT FRIENDSHIP

AND WE LOVE EACH OTHER.

AND WE REA REALIZE IT TAKES

SOME WORK.

Terry: YOU TALK IN YOUR

BOOK, HOW TO TURN YOUR

MARRIAGE AROUND IN 10

DAYS --

IT CAN HAPPEN.

FOR A START, ANYWAY.

Terry: YOU TALK ABOUT

10 THINGS THAT CAN TURN A

MARRIAGE AROUND.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO ALL

10 OF THEM, BUT DO THE MOST

IMPORTANT ONES.

THE FIRST ONE IS HONOR.

I THINK WE DON'T UNDERSTAND

THE IMPACT OF THAT.

IT IS EASY TO HONOR SOMEBODY

WHEN THEY'RE NEW AND YOU'RE

ENGAGED.

BUT HUMAN NATURE, WE TAKE

EACH OTHER FOR GRANTED.

I BELIEVE BEHIND EVERY

MARRIAGE PROBLEM, THERE IS

AN HONOR PROBLEM.

Terry: WOW.

SO WHETHER THE STRUGGLE

IS FINANCE --

Terry: THAT'S AN

AMAZING STATEMENT.

FINANCES OR SEXUALITY,

SOMEBODY IS FEELING

DISHONORED.

SO OUR DIFFERENCES -- I WAS

LIKE, OH, YOU'RE SO

DIFFERENT, AND I WERE

DISHONOR HER.

Terry: BECAUSE IT

WASN'T THE WAY YOU ARE.

SURE.

AND SHE WOULD DO THE SAME TO

ME.

AND NOBODY IS DRAWN TO A

RELATIONSHIP WHERE YOU DON'T

FEEL HONOR.

YOU HAVE TO GET HONEST AND

THINK, HOW AM I DISHONORING

HER?

WHAT IS IT THAT I DO THAT

MAKES YOU FEEL HONORED, AND

REINVEST IN THAT.

AND

WE HAVE THOSE HARD

CONVERSATIONS.

AND THE TENDENCY IS WHEN YOU

ASK A QUESTION LIKE THAT,

WHAT AM I DOING THAT SHOWS

YOU DISHONOR OR DISRESPECT,

AND HE WOULD SAY SOMETHING

AND MY IMMEDIATE RESPONSE IS

TO GET DEFENSIVE, WHICH

DOESN'T HELP.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE

CONVERSATIONS, YOU HAVE TO

GO OKAY.

Terry: IN SOME WAYS, IT

IS LIKE WE'RE LOOKING TO GET

FROM EACH OTHER WHAT WE'RE

SUPPOSED TO GET FROM

CHRIST.

AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT

THING IN OUR INDIVIDUAL

WALKS.

AS IMPORTANT AS IT IS FOR US

TO LOVE EACH OTHER.

IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING IN YOUR

MARRIAGE OR YOU JUST WANT TO

TAKE YOURS TO THE NEXT

LEVEL, GET THE WAGNER'S BOOK

AND IT'S CALLED "HOW TO TURN

YOUR MARRIAGE AROUND IN ONLY

10 DAYS."

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM: "WHATEVER THINGS

YOU ASK FOR WHEN YOU PRAY,

BELIEVE YOU HAVE THEM AND

YOU WILL RECEIVE THEM."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME.

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