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The 700 Club - February 5, 2013

Author Jonathan Cahn compares God's dealings with America to the way God dealt with Israel in the 8th century. Plus, Cedrick's back pain kept him from living a normal teenage life, but a prayer on TV led to a miracle. Read Transcript


I WENT HOME, LIKE, TWO

HOURS LATER, AND IT WAS

NEVER SPOKEN OF AGAIN.

Lee: THE UNTOLD STORY

FOR MILLIONS OF WOMEN.

YOU COVER IT UP, AND

THOSE ISSUES COME OUT IN SO

MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

Lee: PLUS, ARE WE

LIVING IN THE END TIMES?

COULD GOD BE SENDING A

MESSAGE OF WARNING TO

AMERICANS.

AND WERE THE EVENTS OF 9/11

PREDICTED ALMOST 3,000 YEARS

AGO?

THE BEST-SELLING AUTHOR OF

"THE HARBINGER,"

JONATHAN KAHN, REVEALS THE

ANSWER.

Pat: WELCOME TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

55MILLION ABORTIONS.

55MILLION.

BUT WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE

WOMEN WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED

ABORTIONS?

IS THERE SOME DEEP SECRET

THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK

ABOUT?

WE HAVE AN INDEPTH LOOK AT

THAT LATER ON IN THIS

PROGRAM, AS TO THE EMOTIONAL

EFFECT ON THE LIVES OF THE

WOMEN WHO HAVE HAD

ABORTIONS.

FIRST OF ALL, IN THE NEWS,

THE BOY SCOUTS ARE ON THE

GRIDDLE.

DO THEY WANT SCOUT MASTERS

WHO ARE GAY, OR DO THEY WANT

BOYS WHO ARE GAY?

OR DO THEY WANT NEITHER?

WELL, IT IS THEIR MOMENT OF

TRUTH, AND THEIR BOARD IS

GETTING READY TO VOTE

TODAY.

Terry: SCOUTS ACROSS

THE COUNTRY SAY THAT CHANGE

WOULD BE HUGE, ESPECIALLY

BECAUSE CHURCHES SPONSOR THE

MAJORITY OF SCOUT TROOPS.

HEATHER CELLS HAS THE

STORY.

Reporter: FOR THE

SCOUTS, THE STAKES COULDN'T

BE HIGHER.

CHURCHES SPONSOR 69% OF ALL

SCOUT UNITS.

THE LARGEST OF THE CHURCH OF

JESUS CHRIST OF LADDER DAY

SAINTS.

SO FAR THEY HAVE WITHHELD

COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED

CHANGED, BUT SOUTHERN

BAPTIST LEADERS HAVE SPOKEN

AGAINST IT.

A REVEREND RECENTLY BLOGGED

THAT THE PROPOSED POLICY IS

ALMOST SURE NO NOT TO

PLEASE NO ONE.

IN SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA,

CHURCHES SPONSOR 80% OF THE

UNITS, AND LEADERS SAY

MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED.

THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA

CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT

3 MILLION MEMBERS.

AND THE 3 MILLION MEMBERS

HAVE BEEN SOLD ON MEMBERSHIP

STANDARDS, AS THEY HAVE

BEEN, FOR QUITE A LONG

TIME.

WE'RE RUNNING INTO A MOMENT

WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A

NATIONAL SHIFT IN THOSE

STANDARDS, AND THERE ARE A

LOFT PEOPLE WHO MAY BE

CONCERNED.

Reporter: GAY ACTIVISTS

DELIVERED MORE THAN A

MILLION SIGNATURES TO THE

BOY SCOUTS HEADQUARTERS THIS

WEEK.

BUT THEY SAY THE PROPOSED

CHANGE DOES NOT GO FAR

ENOUGH.

THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN

SAYS THE SCOUTS MUST ADOPT A

NATIONWIDE POLICY TO ACCEPT

GAYS AS BOTH SCOUTS AND

LEADERS.

WHAT THE SCOUTS DECIDE THIS

WEEK COULD WELL EFFECT

MEMBERSHIP, WHICH IS ALREADY

IN SERIOUS DECLINE.

AT THE MOMENT, IT IS VERY

NOTICEABLE THAT THERE ARE

PEOPLE SITTING ON THE FENCE,

AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHETHER

OR NOT THEY WANT THEIR

FAMILIES TO PERSONALLY

INVEST IN THE PROGRAM,

THROUGH MEMBERSHIP, BECAUSE

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE

OUTCOME OF THIS DECISION IS

GOING TO BE.

Reporter: TOMORROW,

THOSE WHO OPPOSE LIFTING THE

BAN WILL HOLD A PRAYER VIGIL

OUTSIDE SCOUT HEADQUARTERS

IN TEXAS.

AND BOTH SIDES ARE URGING

PEOPLE TO CALL THEM TODAY IN

A LAST-DITCH EFFORT TO

INFLUENCE THE SCOUTS.

HEATHER CELLS, CBN NEWS.

Pat: THANKS, HEATHER.

KEEP IN MIND THE BOY SCOUTS

IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.

IT IS ONE OF THE HALL MARKS

OF AMERICA, THAT WE HAVE

INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS.

THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC

ORGANIZATION THAT THE STATE

NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED IN.

BUT WHAT IS IS HAPPENING IS

THEY'RE MAKING IT LOOK LIKE

A CONGRESSIONAL THING SO THE

CONGRESS GETS INVOLVED.

THE BOY SCOUTS OUT TO BE

FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO

DO.

AND THE BOARD SHOULD FEEL

FREE TO DO WHAT IT WANTS TO

DO.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

I THINK THIS ORGANIZATION

HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR SO MANY

YOUNG MEN.

AND THE QUESTION IS: ARE

THERE PREDATORS AS BOY

SCOUTS, PEDOPHILES, WHO

WOULD COME IN AS SCOUT

MASTERS?

AND IF THEY ARE, THEN, OF

COURSE, PARENTS WOULDN'T

WANT THEIR SONS BEING

INVOLVED IN THE BOY SCOUTS

OR THEIR DAUGHTERS IN THE

GIRL SCOUTS.

THAT IS NOT A PLEASANT

SITUATION, BUT IT IS A

PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.

I MISSPOKE.

THE BOARD IS NOT MEETING TO

DELIVER TODAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE

TOMORROW ON WHAT TO DO.

OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH THEM

THAT THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY

FEEL IS RIGHT FOR THEM, NOT

WHAT THE POLITICAL CORRECT

CROWD THINKS IS RIGHT FOR

THEM.

WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU'VE

BEEN PAYING MORE FOR

GASOLINE IN THE LAST FEW

DAYS, YOU ARE RIGHT.

LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY FROM

THE CBN NEWS ROOM.

LEE?

Lee: PAT, THE PRICE OF

GAS SHOT UP IN JUST THE LAST

WEEK ALONE.

IT IS UP 18 CENTS, TO $3.54

A GALLON.

THAT IS THE BIGGEST WEEKLY

INCREASE IN TWO YEARS.

ANALYSTS SAY THE STRONGER

ECONOMY IS ONE REASON THE

PRICES ARE HIGHER.

THE PRICE OF OIL HAS BEEN

CLIMBING STEADILY IN RECENT

WEEKS, CLOSE TO $100 A

BARREL AGAIN.

AND MANY REFINERIES ARE

DOING MAINTENANCE THIS TIME

OF YEAR.

REPUBLICANS CRITICIZE THE

WHITE HOUSE FOR NOT MEETING

MONDAY'S DEADLINE TO PRODUCE

A FEDERAL BUDGET.

IT IS THE THIRD STRAIGHT

YEAR THEY HAVE NOT PRODUCED

A SPENDING PLAN IN TIME.

THE WHITE HOUSE ISN'T SAYING

WHEN IT WILL RELEASE ITS

BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.

CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS,

THOUGH, WILL VOTE ON A BILL

TOMORROW THAT WOULD REQUIRE

THE PRESIDENT TO SUBMIT A

PLAN THAT BALANCES THE

BUDGET EVENTUALLY.

REPUBLICANS HAVE REPEATEDLY

SAID THAT WASHINGTON IS

SPENDING TOO MUCH, BUT THE

PRESIDENT AND DEMOCRATIC

LEADERS ARE STILL CALLING

FOR MORE TAX REVENUES.

PAT?

Pat: THE SENATE HASN'T

HAD A BUDGET THEY'VE PASSED

IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.

AND AS I UNDERSTOOD THE

NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE JUST

TAKEN PLACE IN SOME OF THESE

FISCAL THINGS REQUIRES THE

SENATE TO COME UP WITH A

BUDGET.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BY LAW,

BUT THEY HAVEN'T.

YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR

THEY PUNT.

THEY DON'T DO A BUDGET,

WHICH IS KIND OF SHOCKING.

THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY'RE

SPENDING, AND THAT'S WHY THE

PRESIDENT -- THE AMOUNT OF

SPENDING ISN'T A REAL GREAT

CONCERN TO ME.

WELL, IT SHOULD BE A CONCERN

TO ALL OF US.

Lee: PRESIDENT OBAMA IS

TAKING HIS CASE FOR GUN

CONTROL TO THE PUBLIC.

BUT IT MAY FACE A TOUGHER@w

TIME ON CAPITOL HILL.

THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE FEELS

LIKE THERE IS A CONSENSUS TO

PASS NEW GUN LAWS.

President Obama:

CHANGING THE STATUS QUO IS

NEVER EASY.

THE OM WA ONLY WAY WE CAN

REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS

COUNTRY IS IF THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE DECIDE IT IS

IMPORTANT.

IF YOU DECIDE IT IS

IMPORTANT.

IF PARENTS, TEACHERS,

PARENTS, SPORTSMAN,

AMERICANS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS

STAND UP AND SAY THIS TIME

IT HAS GOT TO BE DIFFERENT.

Lee: THE SENATE IS SET

TO TAKE UP A BILL THAT HAS

MOST OF THE IDEAS THAT THE

PRESIDENT SUPPORTS,

BACKGROUND CHECKS AND

LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF

MAGAZINES, BUT IT DOES NOT

SEEM LIKELY THAT SOME OF THE

PRESIDENT'S OTHER PROPOSALS

WILL PASS, LIKE BANNING

SO-CALLED ASSAULT WEAPONS.

Pat: LEE, AS I

UNDERSTAND IT, THERE ARE

SOMETHING LIKE 300 MILLION

FIREARMS IN THE HANDS OF

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, AND THEY

AREN'T ABOUT TO GIVE THEM

UP.

AND ALL OF THIS IS BAND-AIDS

BECAUSE THE CONGRESS IS TOLD

YOU MUST DO SOMETHING.

WELL, THEY DID SOMETHING A

FEW YEARS AGO, AND IT HAD

ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT

WHATSOEVER.

IF THEY WANT TO DO

SOMETHING, THEY NEED TO HAVE

A NATIONAL DATA BASE OF

PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.

THEY NEED TO CHECK HOW MANY

PEOPLE ARE BEING PRESCRIBED

VARIOUS TYPES OF

MOOD-ALTERING DRUGS, ZANTAC,

PROZAC, ETC.

AND FIND OUT WHAT THE EFFECT

THOSE DRUGS ARE HAVING ON

PEOPLE.

IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT

SOME THE EGREGIOUS EXAMPLES

OF GUN VIOLENCE, IT IS NOT

THE GUNS.

IT IS THE CRAZY PEOPLE.

AND THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

HOPPED UP ON THESE

PRESCRIBED DRUGS.

MANY OF THEM YOUNGSTERS THAT

AREN'T CAPABLE OF HANDLING

THESE THINGS.

AND PSYCHOLOGIST AND

PSYCHIATRISTS ARE HANDING

OUT THESE DRUGS LIKE IT IS A

JAR OF CANDY.

AND THE KIDS CAN'T HANDLE

IT.

BUT WE'VE GOT A GENERATION

THAT IS ON RIDALIN AND

MOOD-ALTERING DRUGS.

AND IT IS JUST STANDARD.

SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, YOU'VE

GOT SOME KIND OF A.D.D.,

ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER,

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW

YOU'VE GOT TO GET SOME

DRUG.

IF THAT MAKES YOU A LITTLE

SPACEY, YOU GET ANOTHER

DRUG, AND THEN ANOTHER DRUG,

AND BEFORE LOANING LONG,

CHILDREN DON'T KNOW WHAT TO

DO.

AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT

THESE HOSPITALS THAT ARE

OVERPRESCRIBING.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO

START.

GET OFF THIS I'M GOING TO

LIMIT THE MAGAZINE.

YOU CAN KILL SOMEBODY VERY

WELL WITH SIX SHOTS.

YOU CAN HAVE A REVOLVER THAT

JUST HAS SIX SHOTS, AND YOU

CAN DO ALL OF THE DAMAGE YOU

WANT TO WITH IT.

IT IS NOT THE GUNS THAT IS

THE PROBLEM.

IT IS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

THEM.

AND THOSE WHO ARE

PRESCRIBING MEDICINE TO

THESE YOUNGSTERS THAT GET

THEIR HANDS ON GUNS.

SO LET'S DO THAT.

WHY DOESN'T CONGRESS START

TALKING ABOUT A DATA BASE.

IF THAT SHOOTER AT VIRGINIA

TECH A FEW YEARS AGO, IF

THEY HAD ONLY BEEN ABLE TO

RELEASE HIS MENTAL RECORDS

TO THE SCHOOL, THEY COULD

HAVE STOPPED HIM.

BUT THEY WERE FORBIDDEN BY

LAW FROM DOING IT.

THEY COULDN'T LET THE SCHOOL

KNOW THAT THEY HAD A

DANGEROUS PSYCHOPATH IN

THEIR MIDST.

THINK ABOUT IT.

LEE?

Lee: PAT, TURNING

OVERSEAS NOW, FOR THE PAST

YEAR, ISLAMIC MILITANTS HAVE

RULED PORTIONS OF THE WEST

AFRICAN NATION OF MALI.

THEY TOOK THOSE PARTS OF THE

COUNTRY BY FORCE.

NOW FRENCH AND MALI

ENFORCERS ARE DRIVING OUT

THOSE REBELS AND FREEING THE

PEOPLE WHO WERE FORCED TO

LIVE UNDER THE CRUELTY OF

ISLAMIC SHARI'A LAW.

Reporter: RESIDENTS

DANCE IN THE STREET,

CELEBRATING THEIR TOWN'S

LIBERATION FROM ISLAMIC

EXTREMISTS.

BUT THAT CELEBRATION SOON

TURNED TO ANGER.

WITH MALI CITIZENS LOOTING

ISLAMIC POLICE HEADQUARTERS,

AND LASHING OUT AGAINST ANY

SIGN OF THE 10 MONTHS OF

OPPRESSION THEY ENDURED.

IN THAT TIME, ISLAMIST

REBELS AMPUTATED THE HANDS

OF THESE TWO MEN FOR

SUPPORTING THE MALIAN

GOVERNMENT.

THIS MAN SAYS, ISLAMIC

POLICE CUT MY HAND AND

SHOWED IT TO THE CROWD.

HE SAYS ISLAMISTS TORTURED

ME FOR THREE MONTHS BEFORE

HACKING OFF MY HAND IN FRONT

OF EVERY ONE.

AND IT PLAYED OUT IN THE

STREETS OF THE NEWLY

LIBERATED TIMBUKTU.

CROWDS ATTACKING SHOPS ONCE

OWNED BY REBELS.

THERE ARE ALSO MANY STORIES

OF TORTURE IN THIS TOWN IN

THE PAST 10 MONTHS.

LIKE PUBLIC FLOGGING.

SHE RECALLS, I WANTED TO

DIE.

IT WAS BETTER TO DIE THAN TO

LIVE THROUGH THIS.

MY BROTHER WAS SHOT AND

KILLED BY REBELS LAST WEEK

FOR BREAKING ISLAMIC RULES.

AND WITH THE REBELS NOW

GONE, FRANCE'S DEFENSE

MINISTER IS CALLING THE

THREE-WEEK OPERATION IN MALI

A SUCCESS.

EPHRAIM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

Lee: THE U.S. JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT IS SUING THE

STANDARD AND POOR'S

FINANCIAL SERVICE.

THEY PUBLISHED SERVICES LIKE

THE S&P 500.

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION

ACCUSES S&P OF HELPING CAUSE

THE MORTGAGE CRISIS.

THEY ALLEGE S&P WILLFULLY

TRIED TO DEFRAUD VISITORS ON

INVESTORS ON THE MORTGAGE

BONDS.

S&P, THOUGH, DEFENDS THEIR

RATINGS AND SAYS THEY WERE

ISSUED IN GOOD FAITH.

Pat: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT

RATING AGENCIES.

THERE IS NO QUESTION THE

RATING AGENCIES WERE

COMPLICIT.

BUT THEY GAVE TRIPLE "A"

RATINGS TO THESE BUNDLES OF

TOXIC MORTGAGES.

BUT WAS IT THE FUNCTION OF

THE RATING COMPANIES?

THEY WERE LYING AND THEY HAD

NO DOC LOANS.

THEY WENT TO THE BIG BOYS IN

NEW YORK, AND THEY PACKAGED

THEM INTO BITE-SIZED

SECURITIES, AND GOT THE

RATING AGENCIES TO GIVE THEM

TRIPLE "A" STANDINGS.

THEY WERE ALL COMPLICIT.

BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ACTION

AGAINST THE BIG BOYS ON WALL

STREET, AND THEY'RE THE ONES

THAT MADE THE MONEY ON IT.

SO WHY DON'T WE GO AFTER

THEM?

WELL, WE DON'T GO AFTER THEM

BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO

POWERFUL, AND THEY GIVE TOO

MUCH MONEY TO POLITICIANS.

LEE?

Lee: WELL, BABY-BOOMERS

ARE LIVING LONGER THAN

PREVIOUS GENERATIONS, BUT

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE

ANY HEALTHIER.

A NEW STUDY FINDS THEY'RE

MORE LIKELY TO HAVE HIGH

BLOOD PRESSURE, HIGH

CHOLESTEROL, AND DIABETES.

RESEARCHERS ALSO SAY

BABY-BOOMERS HAVE A GREATER

CHANCE OF CHRONIC DISEASE

AND DISABILITY.

AND THEY'RE ALSO MORE LIKELY

TO BE OBESE.

ALL OF THIS CAUSES CONCERN

OVER THE RISING COST OF

HEALTH CARE.

BUT THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS:

BABY-BOOMERS ARE LESS LIKELY

TO SMOKE THAN PREVIOUS

GENERATIONS, SO THERE ARE IS

LESS EMPHYSEMA AND HEART

ATTACKS.

SO SOME GOOD NEWS THERE,

PAT.

Pat: YOU KNOW, I HAVE A

LETTER -- I GET ALL KINDS OF

LETTERS.

DO YOU GET LETTERS?

Terry: YES, OF COURSE.

Pat: I GET STRANGE

LETTERS.

Terry: WHAT DOES IT

SAY?

Pat: I HAVE CHILDREN

WHO ARE IN THAT AGE BRACKET,

AND THIS PERSON OBJECTS AND

SAYS YOU MUST STOP CALLING

THESE PEOPLE BABY-BOOMERS.

THEY'RE SENIOR CITIZENS.

I SAID, I AM A SENIOR

CITIZEN, BUT MY SON IS A

BABY-BOOMER.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: YOU DON'T

UNDERSTAND.

Terry: I MEAN, WE LABEL

EACH GENERATION.

Pat: GENERATION "Y,"

GENERATION "X."

IT IS A CONVENIENT LABEL.

I THINK NO INSULT IS BEING

MADE.

THERE JUST HAPPENS TO BE A

LOT OF PEOPLE -- THERE WAS A

BOOM OF BABIES RIGHT AFTER

WORLD WAR II.

Terry: EXACTLY.

THAT ARE NOW COMING INTO

RETIREMENT.

AND I THINK ALSO, IN

CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT IS

SHARED IN THAT REPORT, THERE

IS MORE STRESS IN PEOPLE'S

LIVES TODAY, AND OUR FOOD

SUPPLY IS MORE TAINTED THAN

IT EVER HAS BEEN.

Pat: WE MENTIONED THAT

WITH LAURIE YESTERDAY, THE

AMOUNT OF JUNK THAT IS BEING

INGESTED BY PEOPLE IS JUST

APPALLING.

Pat: WE TRY TO KEEP YOU

HEALTHY, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, EVEN IF WE ARE

LABELLING YOU BY THE

GENERATION YOU ARE PART OF.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: I'M A BOOMER AND

PROUD OF IT.

Pat: ARE YOU A BOOMER?

Terry: I'M A BOOMER.

Pat: YOU'RE NOT A

DISTINGUISHED SENIOR

CITIZEN?

Terry: NO, I REFUSE

THAT COUNTING.

Pat: I'M NOT SURE WHAT

I AM.

I WAS BORN DURING THE GREAT

DEPRESSION.

AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO

SCARRED.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: TERRY, WHAT IS

NEXT?

Terry: COMING UP, AN

ANCIENT MYSTERY IS REVEALED,

ONE THAT MAY HAVE DIRE

CONSEQUENCES FOR AMERICA.

BUT FIRST, MILLIONS OF WOMEN

ARE CARRYING AROUND A SECRET

OF THEIR OWN.

AND FINALLY A FEW ARE

SPEAKING OUT.

WE WANT YOU TO HEAR WHAT

THEY'RE SAYING, AND THAT'S

NEXT.

*

Pat: HAVE WE, IN THE

LAND OF THE FREE AND THE

HOME OF THE BRAVE,

SLAUGHTERED MORE INNOCENT

PEOPLE THAN THE NAZIS KILLED

DURING THE HOLOCAUST?

IN THE HOLOCAUST, SIX

MILLION INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE

SLAUGHTERED.

IT WAS HORRIFIC.

WE ARE REPULSED BY THE

EXCESSES OF THE NAZI.

AND TO THINK THAT THOSE

PEOPLE SUPPOSEDLY ARE VERY

CIVILIZED PEOPLE THAT

BROUGHT FORTH GREAT

PHILOSOPHERS AND MUSICIANS.

THAT COULD HAVE ALLOWED

SOMEBODY LIKE HITLER AND THE

NAZIS FREE REIN.

WE'RE HORRIFIED BY IT.

YET HERE IN AMERICA, THE

LAND OF THE FREE, WE HAVE

SLAUGHTERED -- IF IT WAS SIX

MILLION, WE SLAUGHTERED

55 MILLION.

YOU CAN FIGURE THE RATIO.

AND THIS IS AMERICA.

AND THIS IS A STAIN ON OUR

NATIONAL CONSCIENCE.

WHAT HAVE WE ALLOWED TO

HAPPEN?

AND WE TALK ABOUT

REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, BUT

REPRODUCTIVE TO ALLOW THE

SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT

BABIES?

WELL, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T

HEAR MUCH ABOUT IT IN THE

MEDIA, MANY OF THE WOMEN WHO

HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS

PROCEDURE TO REMOVE WHAT HAS

BEEN EUPHEMISTICALLY BEEN

CALLED A BLOB OF TISSUE HAVE

SERIOUS EMOTIONAL ANGUISH.

AND NOW MANY ARE SPEAKING

OUT, AND THEY ARE TELLING

THE WHOLE WORLD WHY ABORTION

DID TO THEM.

PAUL STRAND HAS THIS

REMARKABLE STORY.

Reporter: RECENTLY FIVE

WOMEN GATHERED TOGETHER TO

FIND PEACE AFTER MANY YEARS

OF TORMENT.

I JUST THOUGHT, I'VE BEEN

DETESTABLE TO GOD.

Reporter: EACH HAS

ABORTED A CHILD.

IT DISTURBS ME TO KNOW

THAT I'M A MURDERER.

Reporter: EACH TRIED TO

KEEP IT A SECRET.

I WENT HOME, LIKE, TWO

HOURS LATER, AND IT WAS

NEVER SPOKEN OF AGAIN IN MY

FAMILY.

Reporter: EACH REALIZED

THAT WAS ONLY PROLONGING THE

UNCEASING PAIN.

HOW THEY HAVE GONE FROM THAT

PAIN TO PEACE IS WHAT A NEW

WEBSITE SERIES, "SURRENDER

THE SECRET" IS ALL ABOUT.

THESE AREN'T JUST FIVE OF A

FEW.

IT IS A GREAT UNTOLD STORY

THAT MILLIONS OF AMERICAN

WOMEN NEVER GET OVER THEIR

ABORTIONS.

KATIE FLOOD LEADS THE SAME

KIND OF BIBLE STUDY FEATURED

IN "SURRENDER THE SECRET."

SHE TALKED TO CBN NEWS AT

THE 2013 MARCH FOR LIFE.

THEY SAY 43% OF WOMEN

WILL HAVE ABORTION.

Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT,

43% OF AMERICAN WOMEN UNDER

AGE 45.

KATIE BECAME ONE OF THEM 25

YEARS AGO.

SHE SAYS THE EMOTIONAL PAIN

AFTERWARDS CAUSED HER

IMMENSE PROBLEMS.

WHEN YOU HAVE AN

ABORTION, YOU COVER IT UP

AND TRY TO MOVE ON AND DO

LIFE.

THOSE ISSUES COME OUT IN SO

MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.

DEPRESSION, SUICIDAL

BEHAVIORS, AND SUBSTANCE

ABUSE.

Reporter: ANNA HIGGINS

SAYS THERE IS A REASON

PEOPLE OFTEN KEEP THIS A

SECRET.

THERE IS A LOT OF GUILT

ASSOCIATED WITH ABORTIONS.

Reporter: 86% RAGE, AND

UP TO 80% SUFFER

POST-ABORTION TRAUMA.

I WAS NUMB.

I WAS LOST.

AND THERE WAS A GIRL LAYING

IN THE COT NEXT TO ME WHO

WAS JUST WEEPING.

SHE WAS SO BROKEN.

Reporter: IN "SURRENDER

THE SECRET," JANE TELLS OF

HER ABORTION.

I STARTED TO CRAMP.

MY BODY STARTED GOING

THROUGH ALL OF THESE

CHANGES.

IT WAS JUST HORRIBLE, HAVING

TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WAS

GOING ON.

Reporter: IT WAS ALL

FOR A YOUNG MAN WHO STILL

LEFT HER.

AND I LOVED THIS BOY SO

MUCH THAT I WAS WILLING TO

SACRIFICE MY OWN BABY TO

HOLD ON TO HIM.

Reporter: IN THE

SERIES, COURTNEY TELLS OF

DISAPPOINTING HER STERN

FATHER.

I WAS IN THE YOUTH

GROUP.

I WAS THE PERFECT DAUGHTER.

AND I ENDED UP PREGNANT.

Reporter: THE FATHER

FORCED HER TO GET RID OF IT,

AND SHE REMEMBERS THE

ABORTIONIST DESCRIBING AN

INJECTION.

THAT IS GOING TO MAKE

YOUR BABY HAVE A HEART

ATTACK.

YOU MAY FEEL HIM THRASH

AROUND, AND THAT'S JUST HIM

PASSING.

ON JUNE 21st, AT 5:35, I

HAD MY SON.

THEY PUT HIM INTO A

CONTAINER AND CARRIED HIM

OUT OF THE ROOM.

THIS IS WHAT IS TRUE.

THIS IS WHAT IS REAL.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO

WOMEN WHEN THEY'VE HAD AN

ABORTION.

THIS IS THE FALLOUT THAT

THEY FEEL.

ONE OF THE WORST

EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE.

AND I NAMED HIM, AND, UM, TO

THIS DAY, MY DAD STILL WON'T

TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.

Reporter: THE BIBLE

STUDY SHOWCASED IN

"SURRENDER THE SECRET" TRIES

TO EXPOSE ALL OF THIS.

TO EXPOSE THE LIES THAT

SATAN TELLS WOMEN.

THE BIGGEST ONE IS GOD

CAN NEVER FORGIVE FOR WHAT

YOU HAVE DONE.

IN EZEKIEL 34, HE

SAYS, "I WILL SEARCH FOR THE

LOST AND BRING BACK THE

STRAYS.

I WILL BIND UP THE INJURED

AND STRENGTHEN THE WEAK."

RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE FEEL THE

MOST BROKEN, HE IS PUTTING

IT ALL BACK TOGETHER.

Reporter: HERE AT THIS

YEAR'S MARCH FOR LIFE, WE

SAW MANY WOMEN WHO HAD SIGNS

THAT SAID "I REGRET MY

ABORTION."

BUT FOR MANY MILLIONS MORE,

THEY KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES

AS A PAINFUL SECRET.

IMAGINE IF THEY WERE WILLING

TO SURRENDER THAT SECRET,

AND OPENLY SHARE AND CONFESS

FROM THE PAIN FROM THAT

ABORTION.

JUST HOW MUCH THAT WOULD

CHANGE THE ABORTION CULTURE

IN AMERICA.

PRO-ABORTION ACTIVISTS

ARE TAUGHTING ABORTION AS

HEALTH CARE.

IF WE HAD MILLIONS OF WOMEN

WHO STOOD UP AND SAY, THIS

IS NOT HEALTH CARE, THIS IS

HARMFUL.

HEALTH CARE IS NOT SUPPOSED

TO HARM.

THAT WOULD MAKE A HUGE

IMPACT.

I THINK IT WOULD HAVE

PROFOUND EFFECTS FOR OUR

ENTIRE COUNTRY.

TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT I

WAS ONE OF THOSE WOMEN THAT

CHOSE ABORTION THAT THOUGHT

IT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE TO

MAKE, AND NOW I DON'T THINK

IT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE.

AND I DON'T WANT ANY OTHER

WOMEN TO HAVE TO SUFFER.

I THINK IT WOULD BE

AMAZING.

Reporter: PAUL STRAND,

CBN NEWS, REPORTING FROM THE

NATIONAL MALL IN

WASHINGTON.

Pat: IT SEEMS LIKE THE

DEBATE IS SHIFTING IN

AMERICA, THAT THE MAJORITY

OF THE PEOPLE NOW FEEL THAT

ABORTION IS WRONG.

ESPECIALLY AMONG THE YOUNG.

THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A

BABY.

AND YOUNG CHILDREN ARE

THINKING, WHAT IF IT HAD

BEEN ME?

Terry: AND WE'RE ALSO

SO MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE

ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF

LIFE IN VITRO, AND WHEN THE

HEARTBEAT BEGINS AND SEEING

THE BABY SUCK ITS THUMB AND

BLINK ITS EYES AND MOVE, AND

REALIZING THIS IS A CHILD,

TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.

Pat: JAY SECULO CALLS

IT THE ABORTION DISTORTION.

IT IS THIS INCREDIBLE

CONFUSION THAT TALKS ABOUT

WOMEN'S RIGHTS, WOMEN'S

REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, AND

THIS IS A HEALTH DECISION

AND SO FAR.

SO FORTH.

AND SOMEBODY SAYS IT ISN'T

HEALTHY TO MURDER SOMEBODY

AND KILL A LIFE.

Terry: IT IS, HOWEVER,

PROFITABLE.

Pat: EXTRAORDINARILY

PROFITABLE.

YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE HOW

MUCH MONEY IS SITTING IN

BANK ACCOUNTS IN ABORTION

PROVIDERS.

PLANNED PARENTHOOD

PARTICULARLY.

I'M TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS

OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS

NO NOW TAKING FROM THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN EXCESS

OF $500 MILLION IN THIS

YEAR'S BUDGET.

$500 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS OF

TAXPAYERS' MONEY GOING TO

THE LEADING ABORTION

PROVIDER IN THE NATION.

WELL, WE'LL BE HEARING MORE

ABOUT PLANNED PARENTHOOD AS

WE GO DOWN THE ROAD, BUT NOT

ON THIS PROGRAM.

Terry: WHEN TERRORISTS

STRUCK ON 9/11, THEY KNOCKED

DOWN THE TWIN TOWERS, AND

ALSO A SYCAMORE TREE NEAR

GROUND ZERO.

TO ONE BEST-SELLING AUTHOR,

THAT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE;

IT'S A WARNING.

HERE WHY?

THAT'S COMING UP NEXT.

*

Pat: WHAT TREASURES OF

WISDOM ARE HIDDEN IN THE

BIBLE?

MANY TIMES WE DON'T EVEN SEE

IT.

WE OVERLOOK IT.

WE READ IT AND ARE NOT AWARE

OF WHAT THEY MEAN.

THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET

ISAIAH, CHAPTER 9, 10, SAYS,

QUOTE,"THE BRICKS HAVE

FALLEN DOWN, BUT WE WILL RYE

BUILD.

REBUILD.

THE SYCAMORES ARE CUT DOWN,

BUT WE WILL REPLACE THEM

WITH CEDARS."

BUT IT WAS SPOKEN BY THE

LEADER ARE THE ISRAEL

THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.

AS OUR NEXT GUEST EXPLAINS,

IT IS A VERSE THAT CARRIES A

PROPHETIC SIGNIFICANT.

Reporter: THE COLLAPSE

OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, THE

HORRORS OF 9/11.

JONATHAJONATHAN CAHN SAYS

THESE EVENTS WERE PREDICTED

THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO IN

THE BIBLE.

IN HIS BOOK, JONATHAN

EXPLAINS THE PARALLELS

BETWEEN ANCIENT EGYPT AND

AMERICA.

AND SHARES THE SECRETS THAT

BRING HOPE FOR OUR FUTURE.

Pat: JONATHAN CAHN IS

HERE WITH US, AND YOUR BOOK,

THE HARBINGER, MOVED ME AND

MOVED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO

BECOME A BEST-SELLER.

AND IT TOUCHED YOU.

HOW DID IT AFFECT YOU?

IT CHANGED EVERYTHING.

I KNEW IT WOULD GO FORTH.

I DIDN'T HAVE A DOUBT THAT

THIS WAS THE LORD.

IT WASN'T ME.

AND IT WAS A YEAR AGO I WAS

HERE.

AND YOU SAID, I WANT

JONATHAN ON THIS DAY.

AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS

THE DAY OF THE RELEASE OF

THE BOOK.

AND IT WENT FORTH AND WENT

TO THE "NEW YORK TIMES" THAT

WEEK.

IT HAS BEEN ON THE "NEW YORK

TIMES" EVERY WEEK SINCE

THEN.

IT HAS CHANGED EVERYTHING

FOR ME.

THERE IS NO TIME FOR

ANYTHING.

AND IT HAS BEEN GOING

FORTH.

IT JUST WENT PAST A MILLION

NOW COPIES, AND IT HAS BEEN

GOING CROSS DENOMINATIONAL

LINES.

AND IT IS REACHING CAPITOL

HILL.

WE HAVE GOTTEN CONTACT FROM

PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WHO ARE

READING IT.

IT JUST HAS BEEN GOING

WILD.

Pat: THIS VERSE IN

ISAIAH WAS SPOKEN WHEN

JUDGMENT WAS BEING ASSESSED

AGAINST ISRAEL, WHEN THE

SYRIANS WERE GOING TO

INVADE, AND THIS WAS THEIR

ANSWER.

IT WASN'T A FAITH THING.

IT WAS A REBELLION THING.

YES.

YEAH.

THIS WAS -- THE HARBINGER

BEGINS WITH THE LAST DAYS OF

ANCIENT ISRAEL.

THIS IS A NATION THAT HAD

KNOWN GOD.

YOU GAVE SOME STORIES OF

WHAT IS HAPPENING IN

AMERICA, AND IT IS VERY

DRAMATIC.

THE NATION TURNED AWAY FROM

GOD, AND GOD WARNED HIM, AND

HE ALLOWED THIS STRIKE TO

HAPPEN ON THE LAND.

THEIR RESPONSES OF THEM

TURNING BACK TO GOD, WHICH

IS WHAT HE WANTED, IS THEY

DEFY HIM.

THERE ARE NINE HARBINGERS

THAT APPEAR ON THE LAND THAT

ARE WARNINGS OF WHAT WILL

HAPPEN IF IT DOESN'T TURN

BACK TO GOD.

INSTEAD OF TURNING BACK TO

GOD, THEY REBEL, AND THEY

ARE DESTROYED.

AND WE ARE A NATION TURNING

FROM GOD, AND GOD IS

WARNING.

THE SAME EXACT PATTERN, THE

SAME NINE HARBINGERS THAT

HAPPENED IN ISRAEL ARE NOW

REAPPEARING ON AMERICAN

SOIL.

THEY ARE HAPPENING THE SAME

WAY, SPECIFICALLY, BEGINNING

WITH 9/11, THIS WARNING

STRIKE, AND NOW AFFECTING

EVERYTHING.

SOME APPEARED IN NEW YORK

CITY.

AND SOME HAVE APPEARED IN

WASHINGTON, D.C., AND SOME

HAVE INVOLVED AMERICAN

LEADERS.

SOME INVOLVED THE PRESIDENT

OF THE UNITED STATES.

IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING, AND

IT IS SPECIFIC.

Pat: IN ISAIAH, THEY

SAID "WE WILL REBUILD."

AND YOU POINTED OUT HOW THE

LEADERS OF OUR GOVERNMENT,

TOM DASCHLE AND OTHERS,

QUOTED THIS VERY SCRIPTURE.

AND SAID, "WE WILL

REBUILD."

IT IS EERIE.

BECAUSE IF THEY HAD ANY IDEA

WHAT THEY WERE DOING, THEY

NEVER WOULD DO IT.

THE LEADERS OF THE ANCIENT

LAND VOWED THIS VOW.

ON THE VERY DAY AFTER 9/11,

TOM DASCHLE, FROM THE FLOOR

OF CONGRESS, SAYS THERE IS A

WORD FOR AMERICA, AND OUT OF

HIS MOUTH COMES THE ANCIENT

DECLARATION THAT PRONOUNCES

JUDGMENT ON A NATION.

AND THEN JOHN EDWARDS DOES

THE SAME THING.

AND THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA IN

A PARAPHRASE, WITHOUT

REALIZING, DOES THE SAME

THING.

IT IS EERIE, BUT IT IS

EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD.

AND WHEN TOM DASCHLE SAID

IT, HE SPOKE OF A TREE AND

DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS AN

ACTUAL TREE THAT FELL DOWN.

HE IS SPEAKING OF THE HAR

JERSHASH JERS, HARBINGERS,

BUT HE DOESN'T REALIZE WHAT

HE IS SAYING.

IN THE BOOK, IT IS THE STONE

OF JUDGMENT.

IT GOES RIGHT DOWN THE VOW

OF ISAIAH.

THEY VOW WE WILL REBUILD

WITH QUA QUARRYED STONE.

AFTER 9/11, THE PEOPLE OF

NEW YORK GO TO THE MOUNTAINS

OF NEW YORK AND THEY QUARRY

OUT THIS STONE, AND IT IS

CALLED A BIBLICAL KAZET

STONE.

AND THEY BRING IT TO THE

DESTRUCTION.

THEY HAVE A CEREMONY MOAN

CEREMONY AROUND THE STONE,

AND THE AMERICAN LEADERS

DECLARE, WE'RE GOING TO COME

BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.

AND THEY REENACTING

EVERYTHING, BUT THEY DIDN'T

REALIZE WHAT THEY WERE

DOING.

Pat: THEY DIDN'T

REALIZE THEY WERE CUTTING A

STONE IN NEW YORK --

THEY HAVE NO IDEA.

AND EVERY SINGLE HARBINGER

BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT

THEY WERE DOING.

IT SAYS THE SYCAMORES HAVE

BEEN CUT DOWN.

THIS IS THE SIXTH HARBINGER

IN THE BOOK.

THERE HAS TO BE A STRIKING

DOWN OF THE SYCAMORE, IT IS

A NATIONAL JUDGMENT IN THE

BIBLE, THE CUTTING DOWN OF

THE TREE.

IT HAS TO HAPPEN AND BE

LINKED TO 9/11, WHAT HAPPENS

IN THE LAST MOMENTS OF 9/11,

AN EERIE THING HAPPENS.

THE TOWER, AS IT IS COMING

DOWN, SENDS FORTH A

SHOCKWAVE, A BEAM INTO THE

AIR.

IT STRIKES AN OBJECT.

THE OBJECT HAPPENS TO BE A

TREE.

IT HAPPENS TO BE A

SYCAMORE.

AND THE SYCAMORE HAS FALLEN

AT THE CORNER OF GROUND

ZERO.

THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK PUT

IT ON DISPLAY, AND THEY MAKE

IT A SIGN.

THEY THINK IT IS A GREAT

THING, AND THEY DON'T

REALIZE IT IS A BIBLICAL

SIGN OF JUDGMENT.

EVERYTHING IN THAT VERSE OF

ISAIAH CAME TREE.

Pat: THEY CAME AND

REPLANTED.

THE SYCAMORES HAVE

FALLEN, AND THE PEOPLE OF

ISRAEL SAID, WE WILL PLANT

CEDARS IN THEIR PLACE.

IT CAN BE A CEDAR, OR IT CAN

BE A SPRUCE.

THEY'RE SAYING, WE'RE GOING

TO COME BACK STRONGER.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HUMBLE

US.

WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SEVENTH

HARBINGER, TWO YEARS AFTER

9/11, A TREE APPEARS.

AND IT IS BEING LOWERED DOWN

INTO THE EXACT PLACE TO

REPLACE THE SYCAMORE.

AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DID IN

ANCIENT ISRAEL.

AND THEY CALL IT THE TREE OF

HOPE.

AND THEY HAVE A CEREMONY

AROUND THE TREE.

THEY SAY NOTHING IS GOING TO

STOP US.

AND THE TREE IS A BIBLICAL

EREZ TREE, THE SAME TREE OF

THE HEBREW OF ISAIAH 9: 10.

THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT

THEY'RE DOING.

Pat: IT IS A CONIFER

TREE?

YES.

IT CAN BE A CEDAR OR A

SPRUCE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY

WHAT IT WAS.

EVERYTHING THAT WAS THERE.

AND THE HARBINGERSS ARE THE

BEGINNING -- IT'S NOT THE

END.

IT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE

SHAKING OF AMERICA.

THE NEXT PART OF IT, IF YOU

FOLLOW WHAT HAPPENED IN

ISRAEL, THE NEXT PART IS

THERE IS A SECOND SHAKING

BECAUSE THEY DEFIED GOD.

WELL, WHAT COMES AFTER IS

THE ECONOMIC SHAKING OF

AMERICA.

WE'RE STILL IN THE SHADOW OF

IT.

AND IT OPENS UP A WHOLE

OTHER STREAM OF BIBLICAL

MYSTERIES, AND ONE OF THEM

IS THE SHRITA.

AND EVERY SEVEN YEARS IN

ISRAEL IT WAS KIND OF LIKE

AN ECONOMIC WIPING AWAY.

AND ON THE EXACT DAY, ALL OF

THE NATION'S DEBTS WERE

WIPED OUT, AND THE ACCOUNTS

WERE WIPED OUT, AS A

BLESSING.

BUT AS THE NATION TURNED

AWAY FROM GOD, IT TURNS INTO

A SIGN OF JUDGMENT.

AND JEREMIAH SAYS GOD USES

THAT AS A TIMING.

YOU HAVE THE FIRST SHAKING

IN 9/11, AND THE SECOND

SHAKING, THE ECONOMIC

COLLAPSE.

WHEN DID THE COLLAPSE OF THE

AMERICAN ECONOMY HAPPEN?

IT HAPPENED SEVEN YEARS

AFTER 9/11.

IT HAPPENED THE SEVEN YEARS

TO THE WEEK OF 9/11.

THE GREATEST DAY OF THIS

COLLAPSE, THE END OF

SEPTEMBER, AND THE GREATEST

COLLAPSE IN AMERICAN

HISTORY.

WHEN DID IT TAKE PLACE, ON

THE EXACT DAY APPOINTED IN

THE BIBLE FOR THE WIPING

AWAY OF THE NATION'S

FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS, AS A

SIGN OF JUDGMENT OF A NATION

THAT HAS TURNED AWAY FROM

GOD.

Pat: THIS IS THE EXACT

DAY?

THE EXACT DAY AND THE

EXACT HOURS.

IT IS THE EXACT HOURS IT

HAPPENED.

AND NOT ONLY THAT, IF YOU GO

BACK SEVEN YEARS, YOU FIND

IN 2001 YOU HAVE THE OTHER

GREATEST COLLAPSE IN

AMERICAN HISTORY.

IT HAPPENED AFTER 9/11, WHEN

DID THAT COLLAPSE TAKE

PLACE?

IT TOOK PLACE ON THE EXACT

SAME ALUL 29, A DAY TO WIPE

AWAY A NATION'S FINANCIAL

ACCOUNTS.

THEY HAVE EXACTLY SEVEN

HEBREW BIBLICAL YEARS APART,

THE TWO GREATEST COLLAPSES

UP TO THOSE DAYS.

IT WASN'T ON JUST ANY DAY.

IT ONLY COMES ONCE EVERY

SEVEN YEARS.

THEY BOTH HAPPENED ON THE

EXACT ONE IN SEVEN YEARS.

Pat: WE ARE HAVING THE

GREATEST FINANCIAL PROBLEM

IN THE HISTORY OF THIS

NATION.

THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT.

THE AMOUNT OF DEBT IS SO

INSUPPORTABLE.

AND IT IS NOT ONLY AMERICA,

BUT IT IS THE WHOLE WORLD.

AND THAT'S ANOTHER SIGN

IN THE BIBLE.

IF YOU'RE BLESSED, YOU

FOLLOW ME, YOU'RE GOING TO

LEND TO MANY NATIONS.

IF YOU TURN AWAY FROM ME,

YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN DEBT.

WE WENT FROM THE GREATEST

NATION TO THE DEBTOR

NATION.

AND IT IS CONTINUING.

YOU ASKED HOW IT AFFECTED

ME?

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

SHOCKED ME, WHEN MY WIFE

TOLD ME SOMETHING AND I

DIDN'T BELIEVE HER, AND I

WROTE THE BOOK.

SHE SAYS, WHAT'S IN THE BOOK

HAS BEEN COMING TRUE AND IT

HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.

IT IS ACTUALLY CONTINUING.

IT DIDN'T STOP A YEAR AGO.

IT IS CONTINUING.

THERE IS ONE THE HARBINGERS,

THE TOWER AT GROUND ZERO.

AND THAT WAS -- WITH ISRAEL,

THE SIGN WAS THAT THEY SAID,

HEY, WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD

HIGHER, BIGGER STRONGER, BUT

WITHOUT GOD.

AND IN AN ANCIENT

INTERPRETATION, THEY DID A

STRANGE THING WITH ISAIAH

10, THEY SAID, "THE BRICKS

HAVE FALLEN, AND COME LET US

BUILD FOR OURSELVES A

TOWER."

THEY LITERALLY SAID A

"TOWER."

THE NATION IS GOING TO DO

THIS.

THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS

HAPPENING IN NEW YORK CITY.

IT IS THE HARBINGER THAT IS

CONTINUING TO GO UP.

THE IDEA IS HIGHER, BIGGER,

STRONGER.

THEY GOT THAT VERSE, WHEN

THEY SAID, LET'S COME BUILD

A TOWER, THEY GOT IT FROM

BABEL.

I FOUND OUT SINCE I WROTE

THE BOOK, IN THE ROOMS OF

GROUND ZERO, THERE WAS A

SCRIPTURE EMBEDDED IN THE

RUINS OF GROUND ZERO.

Pat: I DIDN'T KNOW

THAT.

I DIDN'T EITHER.

IT WAS A CHARRED BIBLE AND

THERE WAS ONE PAGE LEFT.

HE TOOK A PICTURE AND HE WAS

WISKED OUT AND HE STARTED

WEEPING.

THE SCRIPTURE WAS "COME LET

US BUILD FOR OURSELVES A

TOWER."

Pat: THAT IS THE TOWER

OF BABEL.

AND THE ONLY OTHER PLACE

IT APPEARS IN ISAIAH 9: 10.

SO HERE THIS HOUR HAS BEEN

GOING UP.

THIS TOWER HAS BEEN GOING

UP.

IT BROKE THROUGH AND BECAME

THE TALLEST BUILDING IN NEW

YORK.

IT BROKE THROUGH.

THE DAY IT DID, AND THERE

WAS THE ATTENTION ON THIS

TOWER, AND IT WAS

APRIL 30th.

IN THE HARBINGER, THAT IS

THE DATE GIVEN FOR THE

MYSTERY OF GROUND ZERO.

APRIL 30th IN IS THE

HARBINGER.

AND THE PRESIDENT, PAT --

THIS IS SIX MONTHS AFTER THE

BOOK CAME OUT, THE PRESIDENT

CAME TO GROUND ZERO, AND

THEY SHOWED HIM A BEAM.

THIS IS IN THE SUMMER.

AND THEY SHOWED HIM THE

BEAM, AND IT WILL BE THE

FINAL BEAM OF THE TOWER.

THEY SAID WRITE WORDS ON THE

BEAM.

YOU KNOW IN THE BOOK, AS THE

THIRD WITNESS, HE GIVES THIS

PARAPHRASE.

AND TO SUM UP ISAIAH 9: 10,

WE WILL REBUILD, NUMBER ONE,

AND WE'LL COME BACK

STRONGER.

HE WRITES ON THE BEAM, "WE

REBUILD; WE COME BACK

STRONGER."

THE HIGHEST WORDS IN

AMERICA, CROWNING THE

TOWER --

Pat: AND THE PRESIDENT

WROTE THOSE VERY WORDS?

YES.

MY WIFE TOLD ME THAT.

AND I DIDN'T BELIEVE HER.

IT IS PARAPHRASED FROM

ISAIAH 9: 10.

IN THE ANCIENT WORDS, IT IS

EIGHT HEBREW WORDS.

AND THE PRESIDENT PUT EIGHT

ENGLISH WORDS MATCHING THE

EIGHT HEBREW WORDS ON THE

TOWER.

AND THE MAIN WORD IS

"REBUILD."

IT PARALLELS EXACTLY.

IT IS UNCANNY.

THERE IS OTHER ONE.

IN THE BIBLE, ONE OF THE

SIGNS OF NATIONAL JUDGMENT

WE SPOKE ABOUT IS THE TREE.

AND GOD SAYS THIS TREE,

YOU'RE GOING TO WITHER.

IT TALKS ABOUT A NATION

WITHERING, AND GOD SAYS, I'M

GOING TO CUT OFF THE

BRANCHES OF THE TREE.

ONE OF THE HASH JERS

HARBINGERS IS THIS TREE OF

HOSPITAL AT GROUND ZERO.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT

HARBINGER?

IF YOU GO THERE, THE TREE OF

HOPE IS WITHERING AWAY.

THEY CAN'T STOP IT FROM

WITHERING AWAY.

THEY ARE CUTTING OFF THE

BRANCHES.

IT IS BEING HELD UP BY

ROPES.

EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS

GREEN, BUT THE TREE IS

WITHERING, AND EVERYTHING

RIGHT NEXT TO THE TREE IS

WITHERING AWAY.

THEY CAN'T DO THAT.

THE SIGN OF A NATION IS

WITHERING.

WHILE AMERICA IS SAYING

WE'RE GOING TO GET STRONGER,

WITHOUT COMING BACK TO GOD,

IT IS WITHERING.

I'LL MENTION ONE THING I

DIDN'T KNOW BACK THEN, GOD

WAS ACTUALLY CONNECTING THIS

TOGETHER, BEFORE I EVEN

WROTE THE BOOK, AND TO

MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.

THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED

THE ONE YEAR BIBLE.

EVERY DAY YOU'VE GOT A DAY

AND YOU'VE GOT TO THINK TO

READ.

I DIDN'T REALIZE, IF YOU GO

TO ALMOST ANY ONE-YEAR BIBLE

AND YOU OPEN UP TO ISAIAH 9:

10, IF YOU OPEN IT UP, YOU

SEE SEPTEMBER 11th.

IT IS THE VERSE ABOUT THE

FIRST STRIKE OF JUDGMENT,

AND IT GIVES THE DATE, 9/11,

AND IT ONE-YEAR BIBLE CAME

OUT YEARS BEFORE 9/11.

AND THEY'RE OPENING UP TO

ISAIAH 9: 10, AND IT IS

TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST

STRIKE AND GIVING THE DATE,

AND NEXT TO IT THEY HAVE A

PSALM.

AND THE PSALM SAYS THERE

WILL BE DESTRUCTION IN THE

CITY.

DESTRUCTION IN THE CITY, AND

THE WORD IT USES FOR

DESTRUCTION, IN HEBREW, IT

MEANS DEVASTATION, BUT IT

ALSO MEANS SOMETHING IN

ARABIC.

IN ARABIC, THE SAME WORD IN

THE BIBLE MEANS ISLAMIC

FANTACISM, AND THE WORD IS

"HAMAS."

AND YOU'LL SEE 9/11, AND IT

SPEAKS OF AN ATTACK, SPEAKS

OF FANATATICISM, AND IT WAS

ALL THERE FOR MILLIONS OF

AMERICANS.

Pat: THIS IS

UNBELIEVABLE.

JONATHAN, WHAT COMES NEXT?

WELL, I THINK -- WELL, I

WAS WATCHING THE SHOW FROM

THE BACKGROUND, AND IT IS

CLEAR AMERICA, RIGHT NOW, AS

A NATION AND CULTURE, IS

STILL TURNING RAPIDLY FROM

GOD.

THE CULTURE.

AS LONG AS IT DOES, IF IT

DOES, THE PATTERN IS THERE

WILL BE SHAKING AND SHAKING

UNTIL AMERICA EITHER RETURNS

TO GOD, THERE IS REVIVAL, OR

THERE IS CALAMITY OR

DESTRUCTION.

I BELIEVE -- PEOPLE SAY, IS

THERE HOPE?

I BELIEVE IF THERE WAS NO

HOPE, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY

HARBINGERS.

WHAT IS THE POINTS OF

WARNING IF THERE IS NO

HOPE.

THE MYSTERY OF GROUND ZERO

GOES BACK TO THIS PLACE

WHERE AMERICA WAS DEDICATED

TO GOD, AND THAT'S WHERE IT

CAME.

THE MESSAGE IS: RETURN AND

COME BACK.

THERE IS SOMETHING STRANGE.

THIS YEAR WAS A REAL TIPPING

POINT IN MANY WAYS.

AND YET THE HARBINGER CAME

OUT.

I BELIEVE THERE IS A

PARALLEL AND THERE IS A

WARNING, AND GOD IS

WARNING.

THE KEY IS, "IF MY PEOPLE."

IF WE WERE THE SALT OF THE

EARTH, IT WOULDN'T BE AS

SUCH.

IT'S "IF MY PEOPLE," AND THE

CALL IS GOING OUT.

WE HAVE TO TURN TO GOD AND

BE THE LIGHTS AS NEVER

BEFORE.

IF IT IS GETTING DARKER, THE

LIGHTS HAVE TO GET

BRIGHTER.

WE HAVE TO GET MORE

RADICAL.

THERE IS HOPE, BUT THE

HOPE -- IN HEBREW, PEOPLE

SAY HOW CAN I BE SAFE,

SHOULD I BUILD A BOMB

SHELTER?

IN HEBREW, THE WORD ISISHUA,

AND IT'S JESUS.

Pat: LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, THE HARBINGER, WE

MENTIONED IT BEFORE.

IT IS A NATIONAL

BEST-SELLER.

THIS IS THE HARBINGER

COMPANION JONATHAN HAS PUT

TOGETHER TO GIVE YOU A

LITTLE MORE INSIGHT.

IT IS EXTRAORDINARY,

ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY.

GOD IS SPEAKING TO OUR

NATION, AND HE HAS ORDAINED

THIS YOUNG MAN AS HIS

PROPHET.

JONATHAN, WE LOVE YOU.

I LOVE YOU, TOO.

Pat: BLES GOD BLESS

YOU.

I DON'T KNOW.

TERRY, HAVE YOU GOT

SOMETHING TO TOP THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A

BREAK.

I'M SPEECHLESS.

WHAT'S NEXT?

GOD BLESS YOU.

Reporter: WELCOME BACK

TO WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN

NEWS BREAK.

A BAKER IN OREGON IS BEING

INVESTIGATED FOR REFUSING TO

MAKE A CAKE FOR A GAY

COUPLE'S WEDDING.

A STATE STATUE SAYS ANY

PLACE OR SERVICE OPEN TO THE

PUBLIC MOST PROVIDE FULL

ACCOMODATIONS WITHOUT

DISTINCTIONS BASED ON RACE,

COLOR, RELIGION OR SEXUAL

ORIENTATION.

THE SAME-SEX COUPLE CLAIMS

AARON CLIME VIOLATED THAT

STATUE BY REFUSING SERVICE.

CLINE SAYS HE SHOULDN'T BE

FORCED TO VIOLATE HIS

RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

IF I AM TOLD I HAVE TO

MAKE A WEDDING CAKE FOR A

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, I FEEL

LIKE I'M VIOLATING MY

BELIEFS.

Reporter: CLINE SAYS

DESPITE THE INVESTIGATION,

HE WILL STAND UP FOR WHAT HE

THINKS IS RIGHT.

THREE ALABAMA LAWMAKERS ARE

WORKING TO ALLOW THE 10

COMMANDMENTS TO BE DISPLAYED

IN ANY PUBLIC BUILDING IN

THE STATE.

THEY'RE PROPOSING THE

ALABAMA RELIGIOUS FREEDOM

AMENDMENT AS A SAFEGUARD

AGAINST LAWSUITS TRYING TO

BAN THE COMMANDMENTS.

SEVERAL PRIVATE GROUPS HAVE

OFFERED TO PROVIDE FUNDING

IF THE SUIT IS FILED.

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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: WE HAVE SOME

WONDERFUL QUESTIONS FROM

THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE

SUBMITTED THEM VIA E-MAIL,

AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT

ON WITH SOME OF THEM RIGHT

NOW.

PAT, THIS FIRST ONE IS FROM

BARBARA.

HAD SAID, "I HEARD SOME

PEOPLE SAY THAT THE RAPTURE

WILL TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE

TRIBULATION, AND SOME SAY IT

WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE

TRIBULATION, AND SOME SAY IT

WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER IT

HAPPENS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

IS IT POSSIBLE THERE WILL BE

MULTIPLE RAPTURES?"

Pat: I DON'T THINK SO.

I KNOW I'M STEPPING ON TOES

ON THIS ONE, SO GET READY TO

GET YOUR STEEL BOOTS ON.

JESUS SAID IT VERY CLEARLY,

READ THE 24th CHAPTER OF

MATTHEW.

AND HE SAYS, "IMMEDIATELY

AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF

THOSE DAYS, THEN THERE WILL

APPEAR THE SIGN OF THE SON

OF MAN IN HEAVEN."

NOW, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.

THAT IS THE RAPTURE.

AND THAT IS THE

TRIBULATION.

AND JESUS SAID IT CLEARLY.

NOW, YOU'VE GOT TO COME UP

WITH SOME STRANGE THEOLOGY.

WHERE DID IT COME FROM?

THERE WAS A GROUP CALLED THE

IRVINGITES, BACK ABOUT

1830.

THEY HAD A MEETING, AND IT

WAS LIKE A PENTECOSTAL

MEETING.

A 17-YEAR-OLD GIRL GETS UP

AND STARTS GIVING A

PROPHECY.

AND IN ATTENDANCE WAS A MAN

NAMED JOHN NELSON DARVY.

HE WAS TAKEN BY THIS

PROPHECY, WHICH HAD TO DO

WITH ALL OF THIS

PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE

STUFF.

SO HE BEGINS TO WRITE.

HIS DISCIPLE WAS A MAN NAMED

C.IC.I.C.I. SKOFIELD.

HE HAD A CHECKERED PAST.

HE WAS IN PRISON FOR FRAUD,

I THINK, HE GOT HIS ACT

CLEANED UP AND BECAME A

NOTED PREACHER.

IN ANY EVENT, HE EDITED A

BIBLE, AND THAT BECAME THE

BOOK.

AND IT WENT INTO ALL OF THIS

STUFF ABOUT PRE-TRIBULATION

RAPTURE AND ALL OF THIS.

AND IT IS EXTREMELY

CONFUSING BECAUSE IT IS NOT

BIBLICAL.

Terry: SO PRIOR TO

1830, OR WHATEVER THE

SPECIFIC DATE WAS, THERE WAS

NO --

Pat: THERE WAS ONE

COMING OF CHRIST, AND THERE

WAS A SECOND COMING OF

CHRIST.

END OF STORY.

NOT A THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH,

WHATEVER.

Terry: YOU KNOW, THE

SCRIPTURE MOST PEOPLE HANG

THAT ON IS WHERE TWO ARE IN

THE FIELD AND ONE WILL BE

TAKEN --

Pat: YEAH.

Terry: SO WHAT DOES

THAT MEAN?

Pat: THAT IS THE

RAPTURE, BUT JESUS MENTIONED

THAT, I'LL SEND MY ANGELS.

AND HE ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE

ANGELS WILL TAKE WHAT

OFFENDS OUT OF HIS KINGDOM.

AND HE TALKED ABOUT SOMEBODY

GATHERING PEARLS ALONG THE

SEA SHORE.

THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT

ARE A SEPARATION.

THERE IS NO QUESTION.

AND PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT

THESSALONIANS, IN THE

TWINKLING OF AN EYE, WE'LL

BE CAUGHT UP TO BE WITH THE

LORD.

THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT IS

THE BLESSED HOPE OF THE

CHURCH.

BUT WHEN THE LORD COMES, AND

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.

IT DOES NOT SAY THERE WILL

BE A SECRET SLIPPING AWAY

AND THERE WILL BE A

SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD AND

SOMETHING ELSE.

IT JUST ISN'T THERE.

YOU HAVE TO DISTORT THE

CLEAR MEANING OF THE BIBLE

IN ORDER TO HAVE IT ANY

OTHER WAY.

I TRAMPED ALL OVER SOME TOES

BECAUSE OUR DEAR FRIENDS IN

A NUMBER OF DENOMINATIONS

HOLD FIRMLY TO THE SKOFIELD

REFERENCE TO THE LITTLE

17-YEAR-OLD GIRL.

AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT

IT.

YOU DIDN'T GET IT OUT OF THE

BIBLE.

I KNOW YOU'LL BE MAD.

DON'T WRITE ME.

WRITER RE.

SHE'LTERRY.

SHE'LL ANSWER ALL OF YOUR

QUESTIONS.

Terry: THIS IS TAMMY

WHO SAYS, "WILL THE

ANTI-CHRIST KNOW HE IS THE

ANTI-CHRIST?"

WILTHAT IS AN INTERESTING

QUESTION.

Pat: HE IS AFTER

SATAN.

HE KNOWS EXACTLY THAT HE IS

THE PERSONIFICATION OF

EVIL.

I THINK HE WILL KNOW, AND HE

WILL KNOW HE IS DOING

SATAN'S BIDDING.

Terry: JACLYN SAYS, "MY

HUSBAND AND I HAVE TWO

INCOMES.

I WANT TO TITHE ON MY

INCOME, BUT MY HUSBAND

OBJECTS.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

Pat: WELL, WE TALK

ABOUT A WIFE BEING SUB

SUBMISSIVE TO HER HUSBAND.

I THINK THAT GIVING IS

IMPORTANT, BUT MAINTAINING

FAMILY UNITY AND HARMONY IS

MORE IMPORTANT.

I THINK, POSSIBLY, YOU

SHOULD BE IN AGREEMENT.

I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WOMEN

WHO EARN MONEY SHOULD BE

ABLE TO DO WITH THAT MONEY

WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH

THAT MONEY.

Terry: HERE, HERE.

Pat: IS THAT OKAY?

Terry: THAT'S VERY

OKAY.

Pat: YOU CAN WRITER

RE --

Terry: I DO AGREE THAT

UNITY IN A FAMILY BRINGS

GOD'S BLESSING.

Pat: MUCH MORE

IMPORTANT.

Terry: YOU NEED TO PRAY

THAT GOD WILL CHANGE HIS

HEART.

Pat: BE AT PEACE WITH

YOUR WIFE AND THAT YOUR

PRAYERS BE NOT HINDERED.

WHAT'S NEXT?

Terry: ANDREW SAYS, "I

PANIC STRICKEN OVER IF I'M

REALLY SAVED.

I'VE BEEN BAPTIZED ONCE AND

HAVE PRAYED FOR GOD TO COME

INTO MY LIFE MANY TIMES.

HOW CAN I BE SO SURE?

HOW DO I KNOW I'M REALLY

SAVED?"

Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS THE

SPIRIT BEARS WITNESS WITH

OUR SPIRIT, THAT WE ARE THE

CHILDREN OF GOD.

I WANT TO ASK YOU, IS THERE

SOMETHING IN YOUR LIFE THAT

YOU ARE HOLDING ONTO THAT IS

WRONG?

IS THERE SOME SIN THAT YOU

HAVE COMMITTED THAT YOU

HAVEN'T CONFESSED?

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT

YOU'RE DOING THAT YOU KNOW

IS WRONG?

IF OUR CONSCIENCE DOES NOT

CONDEMN US, THEN WE HAVE

CONFIDENCE BEFORE GOD.

IF YOUR CONSCIENCE IS

CONDEMNING YOU, THERE IS

SOMETHING GOING ON.

WHATEVER IT IS -- MAYBE IT

IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE DONE

IN THE PAST THAT YOU NEED TO

CONFESS BEFORE THE LORD AND

GET FORGIVENESS.

BUT IF YOUR SINS ARE

FORGIVEN AND YOU HAVE

CONFESSED WHAT IS THERE, YOU

WILL HAVE PEACE WITH GOD.

AND PEACE WITH GOD IS WHAT

WE WANT.

JESUS SAID, "MY PEACE I

GIVE UNTO YOU."

IT IS NOT SOME SET OF

FORMULA.

IT IS NOT SOME LITTLE

GIMMICK, THAT YOU'VE GOT TO

SAY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF

WORDS IN A CERTAIN ORDER AND

YOU'VE GOT TO PRAYER AGAIN

AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

WHEN YOU HAVE COMMITTED YOUR

LIFE TO JESUS, AND YOU HAVE

SURRENDERED TO HIM, FROM

THAT MOMENT ON HE IS YOUR

SAVIOR AND YOU'RE SAVED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE

IN YOUR MIND SOMETHING THAT

YOU'VE DONE THAT IS

UNCONFESSED, THEN YOU WON'T

HAVE PEACE, AND THAT'S WHAT

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

Terry: THE BECOME LINE

OF ALL OF THAT, EVEN THE

THINGS WE DO LIKE BAPTISM,

IT IS AN ISSUE OF THE

HEART.

GOD WANTS TO KNOW WE'RE

RIGHT WITH THEM.

Pat: ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR THOSE

QUESTIONS.

Terry: WE HAVE LOTS OF

WONDERFUL QUESTIONS THAT

HAVE COME IN.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET TO

MORE AND MORE OF THEM EACH

DAY.

Pat: TOMORROW.

TOMORROW.

Terry: WE THANK YOU FOR

SENDING THEM.

Pat: THAT'S ALL OF THE

TIME WE'VE GOT FOR TODAY'S

PROGRAM.

TOMORROW, PARENTAL ADVICE

FOR ANYONE WHO HAS EVER HAD

A CHILD TELL THEM NO.

Terry: THAT WOULD BE

ALL OF US.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: MY WIFE'S LITTLE

DOG BIT HER YESTERDAY

BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO DO

SOMETHING, AND THE LITTLE

DOG DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.

Terry: DOGS AND

CHILDREN.

Pat: THAT DOG WOULD

NEVER BITE ME.

TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM THE PSALMS:

"YOUR LOVE, LORD, REACHES TO

THE HEAVENS.

YOUR FAITHFULNESS TO THE

SKIES."

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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