I WENT HOME, LIKE, TWO
HOURS LATER, AND IT WAS
NEVER SPOKEN OF AGAIN.
Lee: THE UNTOLD STORY
FOR MILLIONS OF WOMEN.
YOU COVER IT UP, AND
THOSE ISSUES COME OUT IN SO
MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
Lee: PLUS, ARE WE
LIVING IN THE END TIMES?
COULD GOD BE SENDING A
MESSAGE OF WARNING TO
AMERICANS.
AND WERE THE EVENTS OF 9/11
PREDICTED ALMOST 3,000 YEARS
AGO?
THE BEST-SELLING AUTHOR OF
"THE HARBINGER,"
JONATHAN KAHN, REVEALS THE
ANSWER.
Pat: WELCOME TO THIS
EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."
55MILLION ABORTIONS.
55MILLION.
BUT WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE
WOMEN WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED
ABORTIONS?
IS THERE SOME DEEP SECRET
THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK
ABOUT?
WE HAVE AN INDEPTH LOOK AT
THAT LATER ON IN THIS
PROGRAM, AS TO THE EMOTIONAL
EFFECT ON THE LIVES OF THE
WOMEN WHO HAVE HAD
ABORTIONS.
FIRST OF ALL, IN THE NEWS,
THE BOY SCOUTS ARE ON THE
GRIDDLE.
DO THEY WANT SCOUT MASTERS
WHO ARE GAY, OR DO THEY WANT
BOYS WHO ARE GAY?
OR DO THEY WANT NEITHER?
WELL, IT IS THEIR MOMENT OF
TRUTH, AND THEIR BOARD IS
GETTING READY TO VOTE
TODAY.
Terry: SCOUTS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY SAY THAT CHANGE
WOULD BE HUGE, ESPECIALLY
BECAUSE CHURCHES SPONSOR THE
MAJORITY OF SCOUT TROOPS.
HEATHER CELLS HAS THE
STORY.
Reporter: FOR THE
SCOUTS, THE STAKES COULDN'T
BE HIGHER.
CHURCHES SPONSOR 69% OF ALL
SCOUT UNITS.
THE LARGEST OF THE CHURCH OF
JESUS CHRIST OF LADDER DAY
SAINTS.
SO FAR THEY HAVE WITHHELD
COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED
CHANGED, BUT SOUTHERN
BAPTIST LEADERS HAVE SPOKEN
AGAINST IT.
A REVEREND RECENTLY BLOGGED
THAT THE PROPOSED POLICY IS
ALMOST SURE NO NOT TO
PLEASE NO ONE.
IN SOUTHEASTERN VIRGINIA,
CHURCHES SPONSOR 80% OF THE
UNITS, AND LEADERS SAY
MEMBERS ARE CONCERNED.
THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA
CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT
3 MILLION MEMBERS.
AND THE 3 MILLION MEMBERS
HAVE BEEN SOLD ON MEMBERSHIP
STANDARDS, AS THEY HAVE
BEEN, FOR QUITE A LONG
TIME.
WE'RE RUNNING INTO A MOMENT
WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A
NATIONAL SHIFT IN THOSE
STANDARDS, AND THERE ARE A
LOFT PEOPLE WHO MAY BE
CONCERNED.
Reporter: GAY ACTIVISTS
DELIVERED MORE THAN A
MILLION SIGNATURES TO THE
BOY SCOUTS HEADQUARTERS THIS
WEEK.
BUT THEY SAY THE PROPOSED
CHANGE DOES NOT GO FAR
ENOUGH.
THE HUMAN RIGHTS CAMPAIGN
SAYS THE SCOUTS MUST ADOPT A
NATIONWIDE POLICY TO ACCEPT
GAYS AS BOTH SCOUTS AND
LEADERS.
WHAT THE SCOUTS DECIDE THIS
WEEK COULD WELL EFFECT
MEMBERSHIP, WHICH IS ALREADY
IN SERIOUS DECLINE.
AT THE MOMENT, IT IS VERY
NOTICEABLE THAT THERE ARE
PEOPLE SITTING ON THE FENCE,
AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHETHER
OR NOT THEY WANT THEIR
FAMILIES TO PERSONALLY
INVEST IN THE PROGRAM,
THROUGH MEMBERSHIP, BECAUSE
THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE
OUTCOME OF THIS DECISION IS
GOING TO BE.
Reporter: TOMORROW,
THOSE WHO OPPOSE LIFTING THE
BAN WILL HOLD A PRAYER VIGIL
OUTSIDE SCOUT HEADQUARTERS
IN TEXAS.
AND BOTH SIDES ARE URGING
PEOPLE TO CALL THEM TODAY IN
A LAST-DITCH EFFORT TO
INFLUENCE THE SCOUTS.
HEATHER CELLS, CBN NEWS.
Pat: THANKS, HEATHER.
KEEP IN MIND THE BOY SCOUTS
IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.
IT IS ONE OF THE HALL MARKS
OF AMERICA, THAT WE HAVE
INDIVIDUAL ORGANIZATIONS.
THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC
ORGANIZATION THAT THE STATE
NEEDS TO GET INVOLVED IN.
BUT WHAT IS IS HAPPENING IS
THEY'RE MAKING IT LOOK LIKE
A CONGRESSIONAL THING SO THE
CONGRESS GETS INVOLVED.
THE BOY SCOUTS OUT TO BE
FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO
DO.
AND THE BOARD SHOULD FEEL
FREE TO DO WHAT IT WANTS TO
DO.
THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.
I THINK THIS ORGANIZATION
HAS DONE SO MUCH FOR SO MANY
YOUNG MEN.
AND THE QUESTION IS: ARE
THERE PREDATORS AS BOY
SCOUTS, PEDOPHILES, WHO
WOULD COME IN AS SCOUT
MASTERS?
AND IF THEY ARE, THEN, OF
COURSE, PARENTS WOULDN'T
WANT THEIR SONS BEING
INVOLVED IN THE BOY SCOUTS
OR THEIR DAUGHTERS IN THE
GIRL SCOUTS.
THAT IS NOT A PLEASANT
SITUATION, BUT IT IS A
PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.
I MISSPOKE.
THE BOARD IS NOT MEETING TO
DELIVER TODAY.
THEY'RE GOING TO VOTE
TOMORROW ON WHAT TO DO.
OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH THEM
THAT THEY WILL DO WHAT THEY
FEEL IS RIGHT FOR THEM, NOT
WHAT THE POLITICAL CORRECT
CROWD THINKS IS RIGHT FOR
THEM.
WELL, IF YOU THINK YOU'VE
BEEN PAYING MORE FOR
GASOLINE IN THE LAST FEW
DAYS, YOU ARE RIGHT.
LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY FROM
THE CBN NEWS ROOM.
LEE?
Lee: PAT, THE PRICE OF
GAS SHOT UP IN JUST THE LAST
WEEK ALONE.
IT IS UP 18 CENTS, TO $3.54
A GALLON.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST WEEKLY
INCREASE IN TWO YEARS.
ANALYSTS SAY THE STRONGER
ECONOMY IS ONE REASON THE
PRICES ARE HIGHER.
THE PRICE OF OIL HAS BEEN
CLIMBING STEADILY IN RECENT
WEEKS, CLOSE TO $100 A
BARREL AGAIN.
AND MANY REFINERIES ARE
DOING MAINTENANCE THIS TIME
OF YEAR.
REPUBLICANS CRITICIZE THE
WHITE HOUSE FOR NOT MEETING
MONDAY'S DEADLINE TO PRODUCE
A FEDERAL BUDGET.
IT IS THE THIRD STRAIGHT
YEAR THEY HAVE NOT PRODUCED
A SPENDING PLAN IN TIME.
THE WHITE HOUSE ISN'T SAYING
WHEN IT WILL RELEASE ITS
BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS,
THOUGH, WILL VOTE ON A BILL
TOMORROW THAT WOULD REQUIRE
THE PRESIDENT TO SUBMIT A
PLAN THAT BALANCES THE
BUDGET EVENTUALLY.
REPUBLICANS HAVE REPEATEDLY
SAID THAT WASHINGTON IS
SPENDING TOO MUCH, BUT THE
PRESIDENT AND DEMOCRATIC
LEADERS ARE STILL CALLING
FOR MORE TAX REVENUES.
PAT?
Pat: THE SENATE HASN'T
HAD A BUDGET THEY'VE PASSED
IN THE LAST THREE YEARS.
AND AS I UNDERSTOOD THE
NEGOTIATIONS THAT HAVE JUST
TAKEN PLACE IN SOME OF THESE
FISCAL THINGS REQUIRES THE
SENATE TO COME UP WITH A
BUDGET.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BY LAW,
BUT THEY HAVEN'T.
YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR
THEY PUNT.
THEY DON'T DO A BUDGET,
WHICH IS KIND OF SHOCKING.
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THEY'RE
SPENDING, AND THAT'S WHY THE
PRESIDENT -- THE AMOUNT OF
SPENDING ISN'T A REAL GREAT
CONCERN TO ME.
WELL, IT SHOULD BE A CONCERN
TO ALL OF US.
Lee: PRESIDENT OBAMA IS
TAKING HIS CASE FOR GUN
CONTROL TO THE PUBLIC.
BUT IT MAY FACE A TOUGHER@w
TIME ON CAPITOL HILL.
THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE FEELS
LIKE THERE IS A CONSENSUS TO
PASS NEW GUN LAWS.
President Obama:
CHANGING THE STATUS QUO IS
NEVER EASY.
THE OM WA ONLY WAY WE CAN
REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS
COUNTRY IS IF THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE DECIDE IT IS
IMPORTANT.
IF YOU DECIDE IT IS
IMPORTANT.
IF PARENTS, TEACHERS,
PARENTS, SPORTSMAN,
AMERICANS OF ALL BACKGROUNDS
STAND UP AND SAY THIS TIME
IT HAS GOT TO BE DIFFERENT.
Lee: THE SENATE IS SET
TO TAKE UP A BILL THAT HAS
MOST OF THE IDEAS THAT THE
PRESIDENT SUPPORTS,
BACKGROUND CHECKS AND
LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF
MAGAZINES, BUT IT DOES NOT
SEEM LIKELY THAT SOME OF THE
PRESIDENT'S OTHER PROPOSALS
WILL PASS, LIKE BANNING
SO-CALLED ASSAULT WEAPONS.
Pat: LEE, AS I
UNDERSTAND IT, THERE ARE
SOMETHING LIKE 300 MILLION
FIREARMS IN THE HANDS OF
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, AND THEY
AREN'T ABOUT TO GIVE THEM
UP.
AND ALL OF THIS IS BAND-AIDS
BECAUSE THE CONGRESS IS TOLD
YOU MUST DO SOMETHING.
WELL, THEY DID SOMETHING A
FEW YEARS AGO, AND IT HAD
ABSOLUTELY NO EFFECT
WHATSOEVER.
IF THEY WANT TO DO
SOMETHING, THEY NEED TO HAVE
A NATIONAL DATA BASE OF
PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS.
THEY NEED TO CHECK HOW MANY
PEOPLE ARE BEING PRESCRIBED
VARIOUS TYPES OF
MOOD-ALTERING DRUGS, ZANTAC,
PROZAC, ETC.
AND FIND OUT WHAT THE EFFECT
THOSE DRUGS ARE HAVING ON
PEOPLE.
IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT
SOME THE EGREGIOUS EXAMPLES
OF GUN VIOLENCE, IT IS NOT
THE GUNS.
IT IS THE CRAZY PEOPLE.
AND THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN
HOPPED UP ON THESE
PRESCRIBED DRUGS.
MANY OF THEM YOUNGSTERS THAT
AREN'T CAPABLE OF HANDLING
THESE THINGS.
AND PSYCHOLOGIST AND
PSYCHIATRISTS ARE HANDING
OUT THESE DRUGS LIKE IT IS A
JAR OF CANDY.
AND THE KIDS CAN'T HANDLE
IT.
BUT WE'VE GOT A GENERATION
THAT IS ON RIDALIN AND
MOOD-ALTERING DRUGS.
AND IT IS JUST STANDARD.
SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, YOU'VE
GOT SOME KIND OF A.D.D.,
ATTENTION DEFICIT DISORDER,
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW
YOU'VE GOT TO GET SOME
DRUG.
IF THAT MAKES YOU A LITTLE
SPACEY, YOU GET ANOTHER
DRUG, AND THEN ANOTHER DRUG,
AND BEFORE LOANING LONG,
CHILDREN DON'T KNOW WHAT TO
DO.
AND PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT
THESE HOSPITALS THAT ARE
OVERPRESCRIBING.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO
START.
GET OFF THIS I'M GOING TO
LIMIT THE MAGAZINE.
YOU CAN KILL SOMEBODY VERY
WELL WITH SIX SHOTS.
YOU CAN HAVE A REVOLVER THAT
JUST HAS SIX SHOTS, AND YOU
CAN DO ALL OF THE DAMAGE YOU
WANT TO WITH IT.
IT IS NOT THE GUNS THAT IS
THE PROBLEM.
IT IS THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE
THEM.
AND THOSE WHO ARE
PRESCRIBING MEDICINE TO
THESE YOUNGSTERS THAT GET
THEIR HANDS ON GUNS.
SO LET'S DO THAT.
WHY DOESN'T CONGRESS START
TALKING ABOUT A DATA BASE.
IF THAT SHOOTER AT VIRGINIA
TECH A FEW YEARS AGO, IF
THEY HAD ONLY BEEN ABLE TO
RELEASE HIS MENTAL RECORDS
TO THE SCHOOL, THEY COULD
HAVE STOPPED HIM.
BUT THEY WERE FORBIDDEN BY
LAW FROM DOING IT.
THEY COULDN'T LET THE SCHOOL
KNOW THAT THEY HAD A
DANGEROUS PSYCHOPATH IN
THEIR MIDST.
THINK ABOUT IT.
LEE?
Lee: PAT, TURNING
OVERSEAS NOW, FOR THE PAST
YEAR, ISLAMIC MILITANTS HAVE
RULED PORTIONS OF THE WEST
AFRICAN NATION OF MALI.
THEY TOOK THOSE PARTS OF THE
COUNTRY BY FORCE.
NOW FRENCH AND MALI
ENFORCERS ARE DRIVING OUT
THOSE REBELS AND FREEING THE
PEOPLE WHO WERE FORCED TO
LIVE UNDER THE CRUELTY OF
ISLAMIC SHARI'A LAW.
Reporter: RESIDENTS
DANCE IN THE STREET,
CELEBRATING THEIR TOWN'S
LIBERATION FROM ISLAMIC
EXTREMISTS.
BUT THAT CELEBRATION SOON
TURNED TO ANGER.
WITH MALI CITIZENS LOOTING
ISLAMIC POLICE HEADQUARTERS,
AND LASHING OUT AGAINST ANY
SIGN OF THE 10 MONTHS OF
OPPRESSION THEY ENDURED.
IN THAT TIME, ISLAMIST
REBELS AMPUTATED THE HANDS
OF THESE TWO MEN FOR
SUPPORTING THE MALIAN
GOVERNMENT.
THIS MAN SAYS, ISLAMIC
POLICE CUT MY HAND AND
SHOWED IT TO THE CROWD.
HE SAYS ISLAMISTS TORTURED
ME FOR THREE MONTHS BEFORE
HACKING OFF MY HAND IN FRONT
OF EVERY ONE.
AND IT PLAYED OUT IN THE
STREETS OF THE NEWLY
LIBERATED TIMBUKTU.
CROWDS ATTACKING SHOPS ONCE
OWNED BY REBELS.
THERE ARE ALSO MANY STORIES
OF TORTURE IN THIS TOWN IN
THE PAST 10 MONTHS.
LIKE PUBLIC FLOGGING.
SHE RECALLS, I WANTED TO
DIE.
IT WAS BETTER TO DIE THAN TO
LIVE THROUGH THIS.
MY BROTHER WAS SHOT AND
KILLED BY REBELS LAST WEEK
FOR BREAKING ISLAMIC RULES.
AND WITH THE REBELS NOW
GONE, FRANCE'S DEFENSE
MINISTER IS CALLING THE
THREE-WEEK OPERATION IN MALI
A SUCCESS.
EPHRAIM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.
Lee: THE U.S. JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT IS SUING THE
STANDARD AND POOR'S
FINANCIAL SERVICE.
THEY PUBLISHED SERVICES LIKE
THE S&P 500.
THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
ACCUSES S&P OF HELPING CAUSE
THE MORTGAGE CRISIS.
THEY ALLEGE S&P WILLFULLY
TRIED TO DEFRAUD VISITORS ON
INVESTORS ON THE MORTGAGE
BONDS.
S&P, THOUGH, DEFENDS THEIR
RATINGS AND SAYS THEY WERE
ISSUED IN GOOD FAITH.
Pat: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
RATING AGENCIES.
THERE IS NO QUESTION THE
RATING AGENCIES WERE
COMPLICIT.
BUT THEY GAVE TRIPLE "A"
RATINGS TO THESE BUNDLES OF
TOXIC MORTGAGES.
BUT WAS IT THE FUNCTION OF
THE RATING COMPANIES?
THEY WERE LYING AND THEY HAD
NO DOC LOANS.
THEY WENT TO THE BIG BOYS IN
NEW YORK, AND THEY PACKAGED
THEM INTO BITE-SIZED
SECURITIES, AND GOT THE
RATING AGENCIES TO GIVE THEM
TRIPLE "A" STANDINGS.
THEY WERE ALL COMPLICIT.
BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ACTION
AGAINST THE BIG BOYS ON WALL
STREET, AND THEY'RE THE ONES
THAT MADE THE MONEY ON IT.
SO WHY DON'T WE GO AFTER
THEM?
WELL, WE DON'T GO AFTER THEM
BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO
POWERFUL, AND THEY GIVE TOO
MUCH MONEY TO POLITICIANS.
LEE?
Lee: WELL, BABY-BOOMERS
ARE LIVING LONGER THAN
PREVIOUS GENERATIONS, BUT
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY'RE
ANY HEALTHIER.
A NEW STUDY FINDS THEY'RE
MORE LIKELY TO HAVE HIGH
BLOOD PRESSURE, HIGH
CHOLESTEROL, AND DIABETES.
RESEARCHERS ALSO SAY
BABY-BOOMERS HAVE A GREATER
CHANCE OF CHRONIC DISEASE
AND DISABILITY.
AND THEY'RE ALSO MORE LIKELY
TO BE OBESE.
ALL OF THIS CAUSES CONCERN
OVER THE RISING COST OF
HEALTH CARE.
BUT THERE IS SOME GOOD NEWS:
BABY-BOOMERS ARE LESS LIKELY
TO SMOKE THAN PREVIOUS
GENERATIONS, SO THERE ARE IS
LESS EMPHYSEMA AND HEART
ATTACKS.
SO SOME GOOD NEWS THERE,
PAT.
Pat: YOU KNOW, I HAVE A
LETTER -- I GET ALL KINDS OF
LETTERS.
DO YOU GET LETTERS?
Terry: YES, OF COURSE.
Pat: I GET STRANGE
LETTERS.
Terry: WHAT DOES IT
SAY?
Pat: I HAVE CHILDREN
WHO ARE IN THAT AGE BRACKET,
AND THIS PERSON OBJECTS AND
SAYS YOU MUST STOP CALLING
THESE PEOPLE BABY-BOOMERS.
THEY'RE SENIOR CITIZENS.
I SAID, I AM A SENIOR
CITIZEN, BUT MY SON IS A
BABY-BOOMER.
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND.
Terry: I MEAN, WE LABEL
EACH GENERATION.
Pat: GENERATION "Y,"
GENERATION "X."
IT IS A CONVENIENT LABEL.
I THINK NO INSULT IS BEING
MADE.
THERE JUST HAPPENS TO BE A
LOT OF PEOPLE -- THERE WAS A
BOOM OF BABIES RIGHT AFTER
WORLD WAR II.
Terry: EXACTLY.
THAT ARE NOW COMING INTO
RETIREMENT.
AND I THINK ALSO, IN
CONJUNCTION WITH WHAT IS
SHARED IN THAT REPORT, THERE
IS MORE STRESS IN PEOPLE'S
LIVES TODAY, AND OUR FOOD
SUPPLY IS MORE TAINTED THAN
IT EVER HAS BEEN.
Pat: WE MENTIONED THAT
WITH LAURIE YESTERDAY, THE
AMOUNT OF JUNK THAT IS BEING
INGESTED BY PEOPLE IS JUST
APPALLING.
Pat: WE TRY TO KEEP YOU
HEALTHY, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, EVEN IF WE ARE
LABELLING YOU BY THE
GENERATION YOU ARE PART OF.
[LAUGHTER]
Terry: I'M A BOOMER AND
PROUD OF IT.
Pat: ARE YOU A BOOMER?
Terry: I'M A BOOMER.
Pat: YOU'RE NOT A
DISTINGUISHED SENIOR
CITIZEN?
Terry: NO, I REFUSE
THAT COUNTING.
Pat: I'M NOT SURE WHAT
I AM.
I WAS BORN DURING THE GREAT
DEPRESSION.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M SO
SCARRED.
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: TERRY, WHAT IS
NEXT?
Terry: COMING UP, AN
ANCIENT MYSTERY IS REVEALED,
ONE THAT MAY HAVE DIRE
CONSEQUENCES FOR AMERICA.
BUT FIRST, MILLIONS OF WOMEN
ARE CARRYING AROUND A SECRET
OF THEIR OWN.
AND FINALLY A FEW ARE
SPEAKING OUT.
WE WANT YOU TO HEAR WHAT
THEY'RE SAYING, AND THAT'S
NEXT.
*
Pat: HAVE WE, IN THE
LAND OF THE FREE AND THE
HOME OF THE BRAVE,
SLAUGHTERED MORE INNOCENT
PEOPLE THAN THE NAZIS KILLED
DURING THE HOLOCAUST?
IN THE HOLOCAUST, SIX
MILLION INNOCENT PEOPLE WERE
SLAUGHTERED.
IT WAS HORRIFIC.
WE ARE REPULSED BY THE
EXCESSES OF THE NAZI.
AND TO THINK THAT THOSE
PEOPLE SUPPOSEDLY ARE VERY
CIVILIZED PEOPLE THAT
BROUGHT FORTH GREAT
PHILOSOPHERS AND MUSICIANS.
THAT COULD HAVE ALLOWED
SOMEBODY LIKE HITLER AND THE
NAZIS FREE REIN.
WE'RE HORRIFIED BY IT.
YET HERE IN AMERICA, THE
LAND OF THE FREE, WE HAVE
SLAUGHTERED -- IF IT WAS SIX
MILLION, WE SLAUGHTERED
55 MILLION.
YOU CAN FIGURE THE RATIO.
AND THIS IS AMERICA.
AND THIS IS A STAIN ON OUR
NATIONAL CONSCIENCE.
WHAT HAVE WE ALLOWED TO
HAPPEN?
AND WE TALK ABOUT
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, BUT
REPRODUCTIVE TO ALLOW THE
SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT
BABIES?
WELL, EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T
HEAR MUCH ABOUT IT IN THE
MEDIA, MANY OF THE WOMEN WHO
HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS
PROCEDURE TO REMOVE WHAT HAS
BEEN EUPHEMISTICALLY BEEN
CALLED A BLOB OF TISSUE HAVE
SERIOUS EMOTIONAL ANGUISH.
AND NOW MANY ARE SPEAKING
OUT, AND THEY ARE TELLING
THE WHOLE WORLD WHY ABORTION
DID TO THEM.
PAUL STRAND HAS THIS
REMARKABLE STORY.
Reporter: RECENTLY FIVE
WOMEN GATHERED TOGETHER TO
FIND PEACE AFTER MANY YEARS
OF TORMENT.
I JUST THOUGHT, I'VE BEEN
DETESTABLE TO GOD.
Reporter: EACH HAS
ABORTED A CHILD.
IT DISTURBS ME TO KNOW
THAT I'M A MURDERER.
Reporter: EACH TRIED TO
KEEP IT A SECRET.
I WENT HOME, LIKE, TWO
HOURS LATER, AND IT WAS
NEVER SPOKEN OF AGAIN IN MY
FAMILY.
Reporter: EACH REALIZED
THAT WAS ONLY PROLONGING THE
UNCEASING PAIN.
HOW THEY HAVE GONE FROM THAT
PAIN TO PEACE IS WHAT A NEW
WEBSITE SERIES, "SURRENDER
THE SECRET" IS ALL ABOUT.
THESE AREN'T JUST FIVE OF A
FEW.
IT IS A GREAT UNTOLD STORY
THAT MILLIONS OF AMERICAN
WOMEN NEVER GET OVER THEIR
ABORTIONS.
KATIE FLOOD LEADS THE SAME
KIND OF BIBLE STUDY FEATURED
IN "SURRENDER THE SECRET."
SHE TALKED TO CBN NEWS AT
THE 2013 MARCH FOR LIFE.
THEY SAY 43% OF WOMEN
WILL HAVE ABORTION.
Reporter: THAT'S RIGHT,
43% OF AMERICAN WOMEN UNDER
AGE 45.
KATIE BECAME ONE OF THEM 25
YEARS AGO.
SHE SAYS THE EMOTIONAL PAIN
AFTERWARDS CAUSED HER
IMMENSE PROBLEMS.
WHEN YOU HAVE AN
ABORTION, YOU COVER IT UP
AND TRY TO MOVE ON AND DO
LIFE.
THOSE ISSUES COME OUT IN SO
MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
DEPRESSION, SUICIDAL
BEHAVIORS, AND SUBSTANCE
ABUSE.
Reporter: ANNA HIGGINS
SAYS THERE IS A REASON
PEOPLE OFTEN KEEP THIS A
SECRET.
THERE IS A LOT OF GUILT
ASSOCIATED WITH ABORTIONS.
Reporter: 86% RAGE, AND
UP TO 80% SUFFER
POST-ABORTION TRAUMA.
I WAS NUMB.
I WAS LOST.
AND THERE WAS A GIRL LAYING
IN THE COT NEXT TO ME WHO
WAS JUST WEEPING.
SHE WAS SO BROKEN.
Reporter: IN "SURRENDER
THE SECRET," JANE TELLS OF
HER ABORTION.
I STARTED TO CRAMP.
MY BODY STARTED GOING
THROUGH ALL OF THESE
CHANGES.
IT WAS JUST HORRIBLE, HAVING
TO THINK ABOUT WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
Reporter: IT WAS ALL
FOR A YOUNG MAN WHO STILL
LEFT HER.
AND I LOVED THIS BOY SO
MUCH THAT I WAS WILLING TO
SACRIFICE MY OWN BABY TO
HOLD ON TO HIM.
Reporter: IN THE
SERIES, COURTNEY TELLS OF
DISAPPOINTING HER STERN
FATHER.
I WAS IN THE YOUTH
GROUP.
I WAS THE PERFECT DAUGHTER.
AND I ENDED UP PREGNANT.
Reporter: THE FATHER
FORCED HER TO GET RID OF IT,
AND SHE REMEMBERS THE
ABORTIONIST DESCRIBING AN
INJECTION.
THAT IS GOING TO MAKE
YOUR BABY HAVE A HEART
ATTACK.
YOU MAY FEEL HIM THRASH
AROUND, AND THAT'S JUST HIM
PASSING.
ON JUNE 21st, AT 5:35, I
HAD MY SON.
THEY PUT HIM INTO A
CONTAINER AND CARRIED HIM
OUT OF THE ROOM.
THIS IS WHAT IS TRUE.
THIS IS WHAT IS REAL.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS TO
WOMEN WHEN THEY'VE HAD AN
ABORTION.
THIS IS THE FALLOUT THAT
THEY FEEL.
ONE OF THE WORST
EXPERIENCES OF MY LIFE.
AND I NAMED HIM, AND, UM, TO
THIS DAY, MY DAD STILL WON'T
TALK TO ME ABOUT IT.
Reporter: THE BIBLE
STUDY SHOWCASED IN
"SURRENDER THE SECRET" TRIES
TO EXPOSE ALL OF THIS.
TO EXPOSE THE LIES THAT
SATAN TELLS WOMEN.
THE BIGGEST ONE IS GOD
CAN NEVER FORGIVE FOR WHAT
YOU HAVE DONE.
IN EZEKIEL 34, HE
SAYS, "I WILL SEARCH FOR THE
LOST AND BRING BACK THE
STRAYS.
I WILL BIND UP THE INJURED
AND STRENGTHEN THE WEAK."
RIGHT NOW, WHEN WE FEEL THE
MOST BROKEN, HE IS PUTTING
IT ALL BACK TOGETHER.
Reporter: HERE AT THIS
YEAR'S MARCH FOR LIFE, WE
SAW MANY WOMEN WHO HAD SIGNS
THAT SAID "I REGRET MY
ABORTION."
BUT FOR MANY MILLIONS MORE,
THEY KEEP IT TO THEMSELVES
AS A PAINFUL SECRET.
IMAGINE IF THEY WERE WILLING
TO SURRENDER THAT SECRET,
AND OPENLY SHARE AND CONFESS
FROM THE PAIN FROM THAT
ABORTION.
JUST HOW MUCH THAT WOULD
CHANGE THE ABORTION CULTURE
IN AMERICA.
PRO-ABORTION ACTIVISTS
ARE TAUGHTING ABORTION AS
HEALTH CARE.
IF WE HAD MILLIONS OF WOMEN
WHO STOOD UP AND SAY, THIS
IS NOT HEALTH CARE, THIS IS
HARMFUL.
HEALTH CARE IS NOT SUPPOSED
TO HARM.
THAT WOULD MAKE A HUGE
IMPACT.
I THINK IT WOULD HAVE
PROFOUND EFFECTS FOR OUR
ENTIRE COUNTRY.
TO STAND UP AND SAY THAT I
WAS ONE OF THOSE WOMEN THAT
CHOSE ABORTION THAT THOUGHT
IT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE TO
MAKE, AND NOW I DON'T THINK
IT WAS THE RIGHT CHOICE.
AND I DON'T WANT ANY OTHER
WOMEN TO HAVE TO SUFFER.
I THINK IT WOULD BE
AMAZING.
Reporter: PAUL STRAND,
CBN NEWS, REPORTING FROM THE
NATIONAL MALL IN
WASHINGTON.
Pat: IT SEEMS LIKE THE
DEBATE IS SHIFTING IN
AMERICA, THAT THE MAJORITY
OF THE PEOPLE NOW FEEL THAT
ABORTION IS WRONG.
ESPECIALLY AMONG THE YOUNG.
THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
BABY.
AND YOUNG CHILDREN ARE
THINKING, WHAT IF IT HAD
BEEN ME?
Terry: AND WE'RE ALSO
SO MUCH MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE
ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT OF
LIFE IN VITRO, AND WHEN THE
HEARTBEAT BEGINS AND SEEING
THE BABY SUCK ITS THUMB AND
BLINK ITS EYES AND MOVE, AND
REALIZING THIS IS A CHILD,
TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.
Pat: JAY SECULO CALLS
IT THE ABORTION DISTORTION.
IT IS THIS INCREDIBLE
CONFUSION THAT TALKS ABOUT
WOMEN'S RIGHTS, WOMEN'S
REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS, AND
THIS IS A HEALTH DECISION
AND SO FAR.
SO FORTH.
AND SOMEBODY SAYS IT ISN'T
HEALTHY TO MURDER SOMEBODY
AND KILL A LIFE.
Terry: IT IS, HOWEVER,
PROFITABLE.
Pat: EXTRAORDINARILY
PROFITABLE.
YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE HOW
MUCH MONEY IS SITTING IN
BANK ACCOUNTS IN ABORTION
PROVIDERS.
PLANNED PARENTHOOD
PARTICULARLY.
I'M TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS
OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD IS
NO NOW TAKING FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN EXCESS
OF $500 MILLION IN THIS
YEAR'S BUDGET.
$500 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS OF
TAXPAYERS' MONEY GOING TO
THE LEADING ABORTION
PROVIDER IN THE NATION.
WELL, WE'LL BE HEARING MORE
ABOUT PLANNED PARENTHOOD AS
WE GO DOWN THE ROAD, BUT NOT
ON THIS PROGRAM.
Terry: WHEN TERRORISTS
STRUCK ON 9/11, THEY KNOCKED
DOWN THE TWIN TOWERS, AND
ALSO A SYCAMORE TREE NEAR
GROUND ZERO.
TO ONE BEST-SELLING AUTHOR,
THAT IS NOT A COINCIDENCE;
IT'S A WARNING.
HERE WHY?
THAT'S COMING UP NEXT.
*
Pat: WHAT TREASURES OF
WISDOM ARE HIDDEN IN THE
BIBLE?
MANY TIMES WE DON'T EVEN SEE
IT.
WE OVERLOOK IT.
WE READ IT AND ARE NOT AWARE
OF WHAT THEY MEAN.
THE BOOK OF THE PROPHET
ISAIAH, CHAPTER 9, 10, SAYS,
QUOTE,"THE BRICKS HAVE
FALLEN DOWN, BUT WE WILL RYE
BUILD.
REBUILD.
THE SYCAMORES ARE CUT DOWN,
BUT WE WILL REPLACE THEM
WITH CEDARS."
BUT IT WAS SPOKEN BY THE
LEADER ARE THE ISRAEL
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.
AS OUR NEXT GUEST EXPLAINS,
IT IS A VERSE THAT CARRIES A
PROPHETIC SIGNIFICANT.
Reporter: THE COLLAPSE
OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY, THE
HORRORS OF 9/11.
JONATHAJONATHAN CAHN SAYS
THESE EVENTS WERE PREDICTED
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO IN
THE BIBLE.
IN HIS BOOK, JONATHAN
EXPLAINS THE PARALLELS
BETWEEN ANCIENT EGYPT AND
AMERICA.
AND SHARES THE SECRETS THAT
BRING HOPE FOR OUR FUTURE.
Pat: JONATHAN CAHN IS
HERE WITH US, AND YOUR BOOK,
THE HARBINGER, MOVED ME AND
MOVED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO
BECOME A BEST-SELLER.
AND IT TOUCHED YOU.
HOW DID IT AFFECT YOU?
IT CHANGED EVERYTHING.
I KNEW IT WOULD GO FORTH.
I DIDN'T HAVE A DOUBT THAT
THIS WAS THE LORD.
IT WASN'T ME.
AND IT WAS A YEAR AGO I WAS
HERE.
AND YOU SAID, I WANT
JONATHAN ON THIS DAY.
AND YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT WAS
THE DAY OF THE RELEASE OF
THE BOOK.
AND IT WENT FORTH AND WENT
TO THE "NEW YORK TIMES" THAT
WEEK.
IT HAS BEEN ON THE "NEW YORK
TIMES" EVERY WEEK SINCE
THEN.
IT HAS CHANGED EVERYTHING
FOR ME.
THERE IS NO TIME FOR
ANYTHING.
AND IT HAS BEEN GOING
FORTH.
IT JUST WENT PAST A MILLION
NOW COPIES, AND IT HAS BEEN
GOING CROSS DENOMINATIONAL
LINES.
AND IT IS REACHING CAPITOL
HILL.
WE HAVE GOTTEN CONTACT FROM
PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WHO ARE
READING IT.
IT JUST HAS BEEN GOING
WILD.
Pat: THIS VERSE IN
ISAIAH WAS SPOKEN WHEN
JUDGMENT WAS BEING ASSESSED
AGAINST ISRAEL, WHEN THE
SYRIANS WERE GOING TO
INVADE, AND THIS WAS THEIR
ANSWER.
IT WASN'T A FAITH THING.
IT WAS A REBELLION THING.
YES.
YEAH.
THIS WAS -- THE HARBINGER
BEGINS WITH THE LAST DAYS OF
ANCIENT ISRAEL.
THIS IS A NATION THAT HAD
KNOWN GOD.
YOU GAVE SOME STORIES OF
WHAT IS HAPPENING IN
AMERICA, AND IT IS VERY
DRAMATIC.
THE NATION TURNED AWAY FROM
GOD, AND GOD WARNED HIM, AND
HE ALLOWED THIS STRIKE TO
HAPPEN ON THE LAND.
THEIR RESPONSES OF THEM
TURNING BACK TO GOD, WHICH
IS WHAT HE WANTED, IS THEY
DEFY HIM.
THERE ARE NINE HARBINGERS
THAT APPEAR ON THE LAND THAT
ARE WARNINGS OF WHAT WILL
HAPPEN IF IT DOESN'T TURN
BACK TO GOD.
INSTEAD OF TURNING BACK TO
GOD, THEY REBEL, AND THEY
ARE DESTROYED.
AND WE ARE A NATION TURNING
FROM GOD, AND GOD IS
WARNING.
THE SAME EXACT PATTERN, THE
SAME NINE HARBINGERS THAT
HAPPENED IN ISRAEL ARE NOW
REAPPEARING ON AMERICAN
SOIL.
THEY ARE HAPPENING THE SAME
WAY, SPECIFICALLY, BEGINNING
WITH 9/11, THIS WARNING
STRIKE, AND NOW AFFECTING
EVERYTHING.
SOME APPEARED IN NEW YORK
CITY.
AND SOME HAVE APPEARED IN
WASHINGTON, D.C., AND SOME
HAVE INVOLVED AMERICAN
LEADERS.
SOME INVOLVED THE PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES.
IT AFFECTS EVERYTHING, AND
IT IS SPECIFIC.
Pat: IN ISAIAH, THEY
SAID "WE WILL REBUILD."
AND YOU POINTED OUT HOW THE
LEADERS OF OUR GOVERNMENT,
TOM DASCHLE AND OTHERS,
QUOTED THIS VERY SCRIPTURE.
AND SAID, "WE WILL
REBUILD."
IT IS EERIE.
BECAUSE IF THEY HAD ANY IDEA
WHAT THEY WERE DOING, THEY
NEVER WOULD DO IT.
THE LEADERS OF THE ANCIENT
LAND VOWED THIS VOW.
ON THE VERY DAY AFTER 9/11,
TOM DASCHLE, FROM THE FLOOR
OF CONGRESS, SAYS THERE IS A
WORD FOR AMERICA, AND OUT OF
HIS MOUTH COMES THE ANCIENT
DECLARATION THAT PRONOUNCES
JUDGMENT ON A NATION.
AND THEN JOHN EDWARDS DOES
THE SAME THING.
AND THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA IN
A PARAPHRASE, WITHOUT
REALIZING, DOES THE SAME
THING.
IT IS EERIE, BUT IT IS
EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD.
AND WHEN TOM DASCHLE SAID
IT, HE SPOKE OF A TREE AND
DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS AN
ACTUAL TREE THAT FELL DOWN.
HE IS SPEAKING OF THE HAR
JERSHASH JERS, HARBINGERS,
BUT HE DOESN'T REALIZE WHAT
HE IS SAYING.
IN THE BOOK, IT IS THE STONE
OF JUDGMENT.
IT GOES RIGHT DOWN THE VOW
OF ISAIAH.
THEY VOW WE WILL REBUILD
WITH QUA QUARRYED STONE.
AFTER 9/11, THE PEOPLE OF
NEW YORK GO TO THE MOUNTAINS
OF NEW YORK AND THEY QUARRY
OUT THIS STONE, AND IT IS
CALLED A BIBLICAL KAZET
STONE.
AND THEY BRING IT TO THE
DESTRUCTION.
THEY HAVE A CEREMONY MOAN
CEREMONY AROUND THE STONE,
AND THE AMERICAN LEADERS
DECLARE, WE'RE GOING TO COME
BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.
AND THEY REENACTING
EVERYTHING, BUT THEY DIDN'T
REALIZE WHAT THEY WERE
DOING.
Pat: THEY DIDN'T
REALIZE THEY WERE CUTTING A
STONE IN NEW YORK --
THEY HAVE NO IDEA.
AND EVERY SINGLE HARBINGER
BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT
THEY WERE DOING.
IT SAYS THE SYCAMORES HAVE
BEEN CUT DOWN.
THIS IS THE SIXTH HARBINGER
IN THE BOOK.
THERE HAS TO BE A STRIKING
DOWN OF THE SYCAMORE, IT IS
A NATIONAL JUDGMENT IN THE
BIBLE, THE CUTTING DOWN OF
THE TREE.
IT HAS TO HAPPEN AND BE
LINKED TO 9/11, WHAT HAPPENS
IN THE LAST MOMENTS OF 9/11,
AN EERIE THING HAPPENS.
THE TOWER, AS IT IS COMING
DOWN, SENDS FORTH A
SHOCKWAVE, A BEAM INTO THE
AIR.
IT STRIKES AN OBJECT.
THE OBJECT HAPPENS TO BE A
TREE.
IT HAPPENS TO BE A
SYCAMORE.
AND THE SYCAMORE HAS FALLEN
AT THE CORNER OF GROUND
ZERO.
THE PEOPLE OF NEW YORK PUT
IT ON DISPLAY, AND THEY MAKE
IT A SIGN.
THEY THINK IT IS A GREAT
THING, AND THEY DON'T
REALIZE IT IS A BIBLICAL
SIGN OF JUDGMENT.
EVERYTHING IN THAT VERSE OF
ISAIAH CAME TREE.
Pat: THEY CAME AND
REPLANTED.
THE SYCAMORES HAVE
FALLEN, AND THE PEOPLE OF
ISRAEL SAID, WE WILL PLANT
CEDARS IN THEIR PLACE.
IT CAN BE A CEDAR, OR IT CAN
BE A SPRUCE.
THEY'RE SAYING, WE'RE GOING
TO COME BACK STRONGER.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HUMBLE
US.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THE SEVENTH
HARBINGER, TWO YEARS AFTER
9/11, A TREE APPEARS.
AND IT IS BEING LOWERED DOWN
INTO THE EXACT PLACE TO
REPLACE THE SYCAMORE.
AND THIS IS WHAT THEY DID IN
ANCIENT ISRAEL.
AND THEY CALL IT THE TREE OF
HOPE.
AND THEY HAVE A CEREMONY
AROUND THE TREE.
THEY SAY NOTHING IS GOING TO
STOP US.
AND THE TREE IS A BIBLICAL
EREZ TREE, THE SAME TREE OF
THE HEBREW OF ISAIAH 9: 10.
THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
THEY'RE DOING.
Pat: IT IS A CONIFER
TREE?
YES.
IT CAN BE A CEDAR OR A
SPRUCE, AND THAT'S EXACTLY
WHAT IT WAS.
EVERYTHING THAT WAS THERE.
AND THE HARBINGERSS ARE THE
BEGINNING -- IT'S NOT THE
END.
IT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE
SHAKING OF AMERICA.
THE NEXT PART OF IT, IF YOU
FOLLOW WHAT HAPPENED IN
ISRAEL, THE NEXT PART IS
THERE IS A SECOND SHAKING
BECAUSE THEY DEFIED GOD.
WELL, WHAT COMES AFTER IS
THE ECONOMIC SHAKING OF
AMERICA.
WE'RE STILL IN THE SHADOW OF
IT.
AND IT OPENS UP A WHOLE
OTHER STREAM OF BIBLICAL
MYSTERIES, AND ONE OF THEM
IS THE SHRITA.
AND EVERY SEVEN YEARS IN
ISRAEL IT WAS KIND OF LIKE
AN ECONOMIC WIPING AWAY.
AND ON THE EXACT DAY, ALL OF
THE NATION'S DEBTS WERE
WIPED OUT, AND THE ACCOUNTS
WERE WIPED OUT, AS A
BLESSING.
BUT AS THE NATION TURNED
AWAY FROM GOD, IT TURNS INTO
A SIGN OF JUDGMENT.
AND JEREMIAH SAYS GOD USES
THAT AS A TIMING.
YOU HAVE THE FIRST SHAKING
IN 9/11, AND THE SECOND
SHAKING, THE ECONOMIC
COLLAPSE.
WHEN DID THE COLLAPSE OF THE
AMERICAN ECONOMY HAPPEN?
IT HAPPENED SEVEN YEARS
AFTER 9/11.
IT HAPPENED THE SEVEN YEARS
TO THE WEEK OF 9/11.
THE GREATEST DAY OF THIS
COLLAPSE, THE END OF
SEPTEMBER, AND THE GREATEST
COLLAPSE IN AMERICAN
HISTORY.
WHEN DID IT TAKE PLACE, ON
THE EXACT DAY APPOINTED IN
THE BIBLE FOR THE WIPING
AWAY OF THE NATION'S
FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS, AS A
SIGN OF JUDGMENT OF A NATION
THAT HAS TURNED AWAY FROM
GOD.
Pat: THIS IS THE EXACT
DAY?
THE EXACT DAY AND THE
EXACT HOURS.
IT IS THE EXACT HOURS IT
HAPPENED.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, IF YOU GO
BACK SEVEN YEARS, YOU FIND
IN 2001 YOU HAVE THE OTHER
GREATEST COLLAPSE IN
AMERICAN HISTORY.
IT HAPPENED AFTER 9/11, WHEN
DID THAT COLLAPSE TAKE
PLACE?
IT TOOK PLACE ON THE EXACT
SAME ALUL 29, A DAY TO WIPE
AWAY A NATION'S FINANCIAL
ACCOUNTS.
THEY HAVE EXACTLY SEVEN
HEBREW BIBLICAL YEARS APART,
THE TWO GREATEST COLLAPSES
UP TO THOSE DAYS.
IT WASN'T ON JUST ANY DAY.
IT ONLY COMES ONCE EVERY
SEVEN YEARS.
THEY BOTH HAPPENED ON THE
EXACT ONE IN SEVEN YEARS.
Pat: WE ARE HAVING THE
GREATEST FINANCIAL PROBLEM
IN THE HISTORY OF THIS
NATION.
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE IT.
THE AMOUNT OF DEBT IS SO
INSUPPORTABLE.
AND IT IS NOT ONLY AMERICA,
BUT IT IS THE WHOLE WORLD.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER SIGN
IN THE BIBLE.
IF YOU'RE BLESSED, YOU
FOLLOW ME, YOU'RE GOING TO
LEND TO MANY NATIONS.
IF YOU TURN AWAY FROM ME,
YOU'RE GOING TO BE IN DEBT.
WE WENT FROM THE GREATEST
NATION TO THE DEBTOR
NATION.
AND IT IS CONTINUING.
YOU ASKED HOW IT AFFECTED
ME?
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
SHOCKED ME, WHEN MY WIFE
TOLD ME SOMETHING AND I
DIDN'T BELIEVE HER, AND I
WROTE THE BOOK.
SHE SAYS, WHAT'S IN THE BOOK
HAS BEEN COMING TRUE AND IT
HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.
IT IS ACTUALLY CONTINUING.
IT DIDN'T STOP A YEAR AGO.
IT IS CONTINUING.
THERE IS ONE THE HARBINGERS,
THE TOWER AT GROUND ZERO.
AND THAT WAS -- WITH ISRAEL,
THE SIGN WAS THAT THEY SAID,
HEY, WE'RE GOING TO REBUILD
HIGHER, BIGGER STRONGER, BUT
WITHOUT GOD.
AND IN AN ANCIENT
INTERPRETATION, THEY DID A
STRANGE THING WITH ISAIAH
10, THEY SAID, "THE BRICKS
HAVE FALLEN, AND COME LET US
BUILD FOR OURSELVES A
TOWER."
THEY LITERALLY SAID A
"TOWER."
THE NATION IS GOING TO DO
THIS.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS
HAPPENING IN NEW YORK CITY.
IT IS THE HARBINGER THAT IS
CONTINUING TO GO UP.
THE IDEA IS HIGHER, BIGGER,
STRONGER.
THEY GOT THAT VERSE, WHEN
THEY SAID, LET'S COME BUILD
A TOWER, THEY GOT IT FROM
BABEL.
I FOUND OUT SINCE I WROTE
THE BOOK, IN THE ROOMS OF
GROUND ZERO, THERE WAS A
SCRIPTURE EMBEDDED IN THE
RUINS OF GROUND ZERO.
Pat: I DIDN'T KNOW
THAT.
I DIDN'T EITHER.
IT WAS A CHARRED BIBLE AND
THERE WAS ONE PAGE LEFT.
HE TOOK A PICTURE AND HE WAS
WISKED OUT AND HE STARTED
WEEPING.
THE SCRIPTURE WAS "COME LET
US BUILD FOR OURSELVES A
TOWER."
Pat: THAT IS THE TOWER
OF BABEL.
AND THE ONLY OTHER PLACE
IT APPEARS IN ISAIAH 9: 10.
SO HERE THIS HOUR HAS BEEN
GOING UP.
THIS TOWER HAS BEEN GOING
UP.
IT BROKE THROUGH AND BECAME
THE TALLEST BUILDING IN NEW
YORK.
IT BROKE THROUGH.
THE DAY IT DID, AND THERE
WAS THE ATTENTION ON THIS
TOWER, AND IT WAS
APRIL 30th.
IN THE HARBINGER, THAT IS
THE DATE GIVEN FOR THE
MYSTERY OF GROUND ZERO.
APRIL 30th IN IS THE
HARBINGER.
AND THE PRESIDENT, PAT --
THIS IS SIX MONTHS AFTER THE
BOOK CAME OUT, THE PRESIDENT
CAME TO GROUND ZERO, AND
THEY SHOWED HIM A BEAM.
THIS IS IN THE SUMMER.
AND THEY SHOWED HIM THE
BEAM, AND IT WILL BE THE
FINAL BEAM OF THE TOWER.
THEY SAID WRITE WORDS ON THE
BEAM.
YOU KNOW IN THE BOOK, AS THE
THIRD WITNESS, HE GIVES THIS
PARAPHRASE.
AND TO SUM UP ISAIAH 9: 10,
WE WILL REBUILD, NUMBER ONE,
AND WE'LL COME BACK
STRONGER.
HE WRITES ON THE BEAM, "WE
REBUILD; WE COME BACK
STRONGER."
THE HIGHEST WORDS IN
AMERICA, CROWNING THE
TOWER --
Pat: AND THE PRESIDENT
WROTE THOSE VERY WORDS?
YES.
MY WIFE TOLD ME THAT.
AND I DIDN'T BELIEVE HER.
IT IS PARAPHRASED FROM
ISAIAH 9: 10.
IN THE ANCIENT WORDS, IT IS
EIGHT HEBREW WORDS.
AND THE PRESIDENT PUT EIGHT
ENGLISH WORDS MATCHING THE
EIGHT HEBREW WORDS ON THE
TOWER.
AND THE MAIN WORD IS
"REBUILD."
IT PARALLELS EXACTLY.
IT IS UNCANNY.
THERE IS OTHER ONE.
IN THE BIBLE, ONE OF THE
SIGNS OF NATIONAL JUDGMENT
WE SPOKE ABOUT IS THE TREE.
AND GOD SAYS THIS TREE,
YOU'RE GOING TO WITHER.
IT TALKS ABOUT A NATION
WITHERING, AND GOD SAYS, I'M
GOING TO CUT OFF THE
BRANCHES OF THE TREE.
ONE OF THE HASH JERS
HARBINGERS IS THIS TREE OF
HOSPITAL AT GROUND ZERO.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT
HARBINGER?
IF YOU GO THERE, THE TREE OF
HOPE IS WITHERING AWAY.
THEY CAN'T STOP IT FROM
WITHERING AWAY.
THEY ARE CUTTING OFF THE
BRANCHES.
IT IS BEING HELD UP BY
ROPES.
EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS
GREEN, BUT THE TREE IS
WITHERING, AND EVERYTHING
RIGHT NEXT TO THE TREE IS
WITHERING AWAY.
THEY CAN'T DO THAT.
THE SIGN OF A NATION IS
WITHERING.
WHILE AMERICA IS SAYING
WE'RE GOING TO GET STRONGER,
WITHOUT COMING BACK TO GOD,
IT IS WITHERING.
I'LL MENTION ONE THING I
DIDN'T KNOW BACK THEN, GOD
WAS ACTUALLY CONNECTING THIS
TOGETHER, BEFORE I EVEN
WROTE THE BOOK, AND TO
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.
THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED
THE ONE YEAR BIBLE.
EVERY DAY YOU'VE GOT A DAY
AND YOU'VE GOT TO THINK TO
READ.
I DIDN'T REALIZE, IF YOU GO
TO ALMOST ANY ONE-YEAR BIBLE
AND YOU OPEN UP TO ISAIAH 9:
10, IF YOU OPEN IT UP, YOU
SEE SEPTEMBER 11th.
IT IS THE VERSE ABOUT THE
FIRST STRIKE OF JUDGMENT,
AND IT GIVES THE DATE, 9/11,
AND IT ONE-YEAR BIBLE CAME
OUT YEARS BEFORE 9/11.
AND THEY'RE OPENING UP TO
ISAIAH 9: 10, AND IT IS
TALKING ABOUT THE FIRST
STRIKE AND GIVING THE DATE,
AND NEXT TO IT THEY HAVE A
PSALM.
AND THE PSALM SAYS THERE
WILL BE DESTRUCTION IN THE
CITY.
DESTRUCTION IN THE CITY, AND
THE WORD IT USES FOR
DESTRUCTION, IN HEBREW, IT
MEANS DEVASTATION, BUT IT
ALSO MEANS SOMETHING IN
ARABIC.
IN ARABIC, THE SAME WORD IN
THE BIBLE MEANS ISLAMIC
FANTACISM, AND THE WORD IS
"HAMAS."
AND YOU'LL SEE 9/11, AND IT
SPEAKS OF AN ATTACK, SPEAKS
OF FANATATICISM, AND IT WAS
ALL THERE FOR MILLIONS OF
AMERICANS.
Pat: THIS IS
UNBELIEVABLE.
JONATHAN, WHAT COMES NEXT?
WELL, I THINK -- WELL, I
WAS WATCHING THE SHOW FROM
THE BACKGROUND, AND IT IS
CLEAR AMERICA, RIGHT NOW, AS
A NATION AND CULTURE, IS
STILL TURNING RAPIDLY FROM
GOD.
THE CULTURE.
AS LONG AS IT DOES, IF IT
DOES, THE PATTERN IS THERE
WILL BE SHAKING AND SHAKING
UNTIL AMERICA EITHER RETURNS
TO GOD, THERE IS REVIVAL, OR
THERE IS CALAMITY OR
DESTRUCTION.
I BELIEVE -- PEOPLE SAY, IS
THERE HOPE?
I BELIEVE IF THERE WAS NO
HOPE, THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY
HARBINGERS.
WHAT IS THE POINTS OF
WARNING IF THERE IS NO
HOPE.
THE MYSTERY OF GROUND ZERO
GOES BACK TO THIS PLACE
WHERE AMERICA WAS DEDICATED
TO GOD, AND THAT'S WHERE IT
CAME.
THE MESSAGE IS: RETURN AND
COME BACK.
THERE IS SOMETHING STRANGE.
THIS YEAR WAS A REAL TIPPING
POINT IN MANY WAYS.
AND YET THE HARBINGER CAME
OUT.
I BELIEVE THERE IS A
PARALLEL AND THERE IS A
WARNING, AND GOD IS
WARNING.
THE KEY IS, "IF MY PEOPLE."
IF WE WERE THE SALT OF THE
EARTH, IT WOULDN'T BE AS
SUCH.
IT'S "IF MY PEOPLE," AND THE
CALL IS GOING OUT.
WE HAVE TO TURN TO GOD AND
BE THE LIGHTS AS NEVER
BEFORE.
IF IT IS GETTING DARKER, THE
LIGHTS HAVE TO GET
BRIGHTER.
WE HAVE TO GET MORE
RADICAL.
THERE IS HOPE, BUT THE
HOPE -- IN HEBREW, PEOPLE
SAY HOW CAN I BE SAFE,
SHOULD I BUILD A BOMB
SHELTER?
IN HEBREW, THE WORD ISISHUA,
AND IT'S JESUS.
Pat: LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, THE HARBINGER, WE
MENTIONED IT BEFORE.
IT IS A NATIONAL
BEST-SELLER.
THIS IS THE HARBINGER
COMPANION JONATHAN HAS PUT
TOGETHER TO GIVE YOU A
LITTLE MORE INSIGHT.
IT IS EXTRAORDINARY,
ABSOLUTELY EXTRAORDINARY.
GOD IS SPEAKING TO OUR
NATION, AND HE HAS ORDAINED
THIS YOUNG MAN AS HIS
PROPHET.
JONATHAN, WE LOVE YOU.
I LOVE YOU, TOO.
Pat: BLES GOD BLESS
YOU.
I DON'T KNOW.
TERRY, HAVE YOU GOT
SOMETHING TO TOP THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
BREAK.
I'M SPEECHLESS.
WHAT'S NEXT?
GOD BLESS YOU.
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TO WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN
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PUBLIC MOST PROVIDE FULL
ACCOMODATIONS WITHOUT
DISTINCTIONS BASED ON RACE,
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ORIENTATION.
THE SAME-SEX COUPLE CLAIMS
AARON CLIME VIOLATED THAT
STATUE BY REFUSING SERVICE.
CLINE SAYS HE SHOULDN'T BE
FORCED TO VIOLATE HIS
RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
IF I AM TOLD I HAVE TO
MAKE A WEDDING CAKE FOR A
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, I FEEL
LIKE I'M VIOLATING MY
BELIEFS.
Reporter: CLINE SAYS
DESPITE THE INVESTIGATION,
HE WILL STAND UP FOR WHAT HE
THINKS IS RIGHT.
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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Terry: WE HAVE SOME
WONDERFUL QUESTIONS FROM
THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE
SUBMITTED THEM VIA E-MAIL,
AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT
ON WITH SOME OF THEM RIGHT
NOW.
PAT, THIS FIRST ONE IS FROM
BARBARA.
HAD SAID, "I HEARD SOME
PEOPLE SAY THAT THE RAPTURE
WILL TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE
TRIBULATION, AND SOME SAY IT
WILL TAKE PLACE DURING THE
TRIBULATION, AND SOME SAY IT
WILL TAKE PLACE AFTER IT
HAPPENS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
IS IT POSSIBLE THERE WILL BE
MULTIPLE RAPTURES?"
Pat: I DON'T THINK SO.
I KNOW I'M STEPPING ON TOES
ON THIS ONE, SO GET READY TO
GET YOUR STEEL BOOTS ON.
JESUS SAID IT VERY CLEARLY,
READ THE 24th CHAPTER OF
MATTHEW.
AND HE SAYS, "IMMEDIATELY
AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF
THOSE DAYS, THEN THERE WILL
APPEAR THE SIGN OF THE SON
OF MAN IN HEAVEN."
NOW, THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS.
THAT IS THE RAPTURE.
AND THAT IS THE
TRIBULATION.
AND JESUS SAID IT CLEARLY.
NOW, YOU'VE GOT TO COME UP
WITH SOME STRANGE THEOLOGY.
WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
THERE WAS A GROUP CALLED THE
IRVINGITES, BACK ABOUT
1830.
THEY HAD A MEETING, AND IT
WAS LIKE A PENTECOSTAL
MEETING.
A 17-YEAR-OLD GIRL GETS UP
AND STARTS GIVING A
PROPHECY.
AND IN ATTENDANCE WAS A MAN
NAMED JOHN NELSON DARVY.
HE WAS TAKEN BY THIS
PROPHECY, WHICH HAD TO DO
WITH ALL OF THIS
PRE-TRIBULATION RAPTURE
STUFF.
SO HE BEGINS TO WRITE.
HIS DISCIPLE WAS A MAN NAMED
C.IC.I.C.I. SKOFIELD.
HE HAD A CHECKERED PAST.
HE WAS IN PRISON FOR FRAUD,
I THINK, HE GOT HIS ACT
CLEANED UP AND BECAME A
NOTED PREACHER.
IN ANY EVENT, HE EDITED A
BIBLE, AND THAT BECAME THE
BOOK.
AND IT WENT INTO ALL OF THIS
STUFF ABOUT PRE-TRIBULATION
RAPTURE AND ALL OF THIS.
AND IT IS EXTREMELY
CONFUSING BECAUSE IT IS NOT
BIBLICAL.
Terry: SO PRIOR TO
1830, OR WHATEVER THE
SPECIFIC DATE WAS, THERE WAS
NO --
Pat: THERE WAS ONE
COMING OF CHRIST, AND THERE
WAS A SECOND COMING OF
CHRIST.
END OF STORY.
NOT A THIRD, FOURTH, FIFTH,
WHATEVER.
Terry: YOU KNOW, THE
SCRIPTURE MOST PEOPLE HANG
THAT ON IS WHERE TWO ARE IN
THE FIELD AND ONE WILL BE
TAKEN --
Pat: YEAH.
Terry: SO WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN?
Pat: THAT IS THE
RAPTURE, BUT JESUS MENTIONED
THAT, I'LL SEND MY ANGELS.
AND HE ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE
ANGELS WILL TAKE WHAT
OFFENDS OUT OF HIS KINGDOM.
AND HE TALKED ABOUT SOMEBODY
GATHERING PEARLS ALONG THE
SEA SHORE.
THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT
ARE A SEPARATION.
THERE IS NO QUESTION.
AND PAUL WAS TALKING ABOUT
THESSALONIANS, IN THE
TWINKLING OF AN EYE, WE'LL
BE CAUGHT UP TO BE WITH THE
LORD.
THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT IS
THE BLESSED HOPE OF THE
CHURCH.
BUT WHEN THE LORD COMES, AND
THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
IT DOES NOT SAY THERE WILL
BE A SECRET SLIPPING AWAY
AND THERE WILL BE A
SEVEN-YEAR PERIOD AND
SOMETHING ELSE.
IT JUST ISN'T THERE.
YOU HAVE TO DISTORT THE
CLEAR MEANING OF THE BIBLE
IN ORDER TO HAVE IT ANY
OTHER WAY.
I TRAMPED ALL OVER SOME TOES
BECAUSE OUR DEAR FRIENDS IN
A NUMBER OF DENOMINATIONS
HOLD FIRMLY TO THE SKOFIELD
REFERENCE TO THE LITTLE
17-YEAR-OLD GIRL.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT
IT.
YOU DIDN'T GET IT OUT OF THE
BIBLE.
I KNOW YOU'LL BE MAD.
DON'T WRITE ME.
WRITER RE.
SHE'LTERRY.
SHE'LL ANSWER ALL OF YOUR
QUESTIONS.
Terry: THIS IS TAMMY
WHO SAYS, "WILL THE
ANTI-CHRIST KNOW HE IS THE
ANTI-CHRIST?"
WILTHAT IS AN INTERESTING
QUESTION.
Pat: HE IS AFTER
SATAN.
HE KNOWS EXACTLY THAT HE IS
THE PERSONIFICATION OF
EVIL.
I THINK HE WILL KNOW, AND HE
WILL KNOW HE IS DOING
SATAN'S BIDDING.
Terry: JACLYN SAYS, "MY
HUSBAND AND I HAVE TWO
INCOMES.
I WANT TO TITHE ON MY
INCOME, BUT MY HUSBAND
OBJECTS.
WHAT SHOULD I DO?"
Pat: WELL, WE TALK
ABOUT A WIFE BEING SUB
SUBMISSIVE TO HER HUSBAND.
I THINK THAT GIVING IS
IMPORTANT, BUT MAINTAINING
FAMILY UNITY AND HARMONY IS
MORE IMPORTANT.
I THINK, POSSIBLY, YOU
SHOULD BE IN AGREEMENT.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WOMEN
WHO EARN MONEY SHOULD BE
ABLE TO DO WITH THAT MONEY
WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH
THAT MONEY.
Terry: HERE, HERE.
Pat: IS THAT OKAY?
Terry: THAT'S VERY
OKAY.
Pat: YOU CAN WRITER
RE --
Terry: I DO AGREE THAT
UNITY IN A FAMILY BRINGS
GOD'S BLESSING.
Pat: MUCH MORE
IMPORTANT.
Terry: YOU NEED TO PRAY
THAT GOD WILL CHANGE HIS
HEART.
Pat: BE AT PEACE WITH
YOUR WIFE AND THAT YOUR
PRAYERS BE NOT HINDERED.
WHAT'S NEXT?
Terry: ANDREW SAYS, "I
PANIC STRICKEN OVER IF I'M
REALLY SAVED.
I'VE BEEN BAPTIZED ONCE AND
HAVE PRAYED FOR GOD TO COME
INTO MY LIFE MANY TIMES.
HOW CAN I BE SO SURE?
HOW DO I KNOW I'M REALLY
SAVED?"
Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS THE
SPIRIT BEARS WITNESS WITH
OUR SPIRIT, THAT WE ARE THE
CHILDREN OF GOD.
I WANT TO ASK YOU, IS THERE
SOMETHING IN YOUR LIFE THAT
YOU ARE HOLDING ONTO THAT IS
WRONG?
IS THERE SOME SIN THAT YOU
HAVE COMMITTED THAT YOU
HAVEN'T CONFESSED?
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT
YOU'RE DOING THAT YOU KNOW
IS WRONG?
IF OUR CONSCIENCE DOES NOT
CONDEMN US, THEN WE HAVE
CONFIDENCE BEFORE GOD.
IF YOUR CONSCIENCE IS
CONDEMNING YOU, THERE IS
SOMETHING GOING ON.
WHATEVER IT IS -- MAYBE IT
IS SOMETHING YOU HAVE DONE
IN THE PAST THAT YOU NEED TO
CONFESS BEFORE THE LORD AND
GET FORGIVENESS.
BUT IF YOUR SINS ARE
FORGIVEN AND YOU HAVE
CONFESSED WHAT IS THERE, YOU
WILL HAVE PEACE WITH GOD.
AND PEACE WITH GOD IS WHAT
WE WANT.
JESUS SAID, "MY PEACE I
GIVE UNTO YOU."
IT IS NOT SOME SET OF
FORMULA.
IT IS NOT SOME LITTLE
GIMMICK, THAT YOU'VE GOT TO
SAY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF
WORDS IN A CERTAIN ORDER AND
YOU'VE GOT TO PRAYER AGAIN
AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.
WHEN YOU HAVE COMMITTED YOUR
LIFE TO JESUS, AND YOU HAVE
SURRENDERED TO HIM, FROM
THAT MOMENT ON HE IS YOUR
SAVIOR AND YOU'RE SAVED.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE
IN YOUR MIND SOMETHING THAT
YOU'VE DONE THAT IS
UNCONFESSED, THEN YOU WON'T
HAVE PEACE, AND THAT'S WHAT
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
Terry: THE BECOME LINE
OF ALL OF THAT, EVEN THE
THINGS WE DO LIKE BAPTISM,
IT IS AN ISSUE OF THE
HEART.
GOD WANTS TO KNOW WE'RE
RIGHT WITH THEM.
Pat: ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR THOSE
QUESTIONS.
Terry: WE HAVE LOTS OF
WONDERFUL QUESTIONS THAT
HAVE COME IN.
WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET TO
MORE AND MORE OF THEM EACH
DAY.
Pat: TOMORROW.
TOMORROW.
Terry: WE THANK YOU FOR
SENDING THEM.
Pat: THAT'S ALL OF THE
TIME WE'VE GOT FOR TODAY'S
PROGRAM.
TOMORROW, PARENTAL ADVICE
FOR ANYONE WHO HAS EVER HAD
A CHILD TELL THEM NO.
Terry: THAT WOULD BE
ALL OF US.
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: MY WIFE'S LITTLE
DOG BIT HER YESTERDAY
BECAUSE SHE WANTED TO DO
SOMETHING, AND THE LITTLE
DOG DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.
Terry: DOGS AND
CHILDREN.
Pat: THAT DOG WOULD
NEVER BITE ME.
TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH
THESE WORDS FROM THE PSALMS:
"YOUR LOVE, LORD, REACHES TO
THE HEAVENS.
YOUR FAITHFULNESS TO THE
SKIES."
SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BYE-BYE.
