Lee: COMING UP,
MIRACLES FROM THE MUSLIM
WORLD.
AS SOON AS I LOOKED OVER,
I HAD KNOWN THAT JESUS WAS
THE CHRIST, THE SACRIFICE,
THE SON OF GOD.
Lee: PLUS WORDS OF
WISDOM FROM SWAMP LOGGERS
BOBBY.
FIND A NICHE IN LIFE AND
YOU'LL MAKE A LIVING.
Lee: AND SURVIVAL GUIDE
FOR RAISING A REBELLIOUS
CHILD.
WE'LL TELL YOU THE DOs AND
DON'Ts ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB."
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Pat: HEY, WELCOME TO
THIS EDITION OF "THE 700
CLUB."
YOU WANT TO SET YOUR
RECORDER, BY THE WAY.
WE'VE GOT A STORY ABOUT
JESUS APPEARING TO MUSLIMS
IN THE ARABIC WORLD, ALL
OVER THE MIDDLE EAST.
FASCINATING STORY.
YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.
AND KRISTI, WHO MAY HAVE
GROWN UP AS A REBELLIOUS
CHILD, IS GOING TO TELL YOU
HOW TO HANDLE ONE.
OR WERE YOU A SWEET,
OBEDIENT CHILD?
Kristi: OF COURSE.
CAN'T YOU TELL.
Pat: I CAN TELL.
IT IS GOING TO BE FUN.
ANYHOW, JUST A COUPLE OF
YEARS AGO, THE TEA PARTY WAS
THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE IN
POLITICS.
NOW SOME POLITICAL EXPERTS
ARE ASKING: IS THE TEA PARTY
DEAD?
Kristi: WELL, PAT, SOME
POLITICIANS SAY YES, AND
MAYBE SOME SAY THE SAME
THING IN THE MEDIA, BUT THE
TEA PARTY ITSELF PLANS TO
HAVE THE FINAL WORD.
DAVID BRODY HAS THE WORD.
Reporter: THE
PREDICTIONS BEGAN SOON AFTER
ELECTION NIGHT, 2012.
CNN DECLARED THE END OF THE
TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, AND THE
"WASHINGTON POST" EXCLAIMED
HOW THE MOVEMENT WILL SOON
BE NOTHING MORE THAN A
BLIP.
MITT ROMNEY'S LOSS, COMBINED
WITH A FEW TEA PARTY
STUMBLES, LED TO THE
CONCEPTION THAT IT IS A
BUNCH OF ULTRA CONSERVATIVES
THAT COST REPUBLICANS
PRECIOUS SEATS.
IN THE CONGRESSIONAL
ESTABLISHMENT, THEY'RE SEEN
AS A NUISANCE THAT WON'T
COMPROMISE.
THOSE ARE THE SAME
CHUCKLEHEADS THAT HAVE
SCREWED THIS PLACE UP.
Reporter: AND NOW KARL
ROVE COULD BE LOOKING TO PUT
A NAIL IN THE COFFIN, TOO.
HIS NEW POLITICAL ACTION
COMMITTEE, "THE CONSERVATIVE
VICTORY PROGRAM" WILL BE
BACKING CANDIDATES IN 2014.
THE TEA PARTY READS THE WORD
"ELECTABLE," AS CODE FOR
SWISHY, MODERATE
REPUBLICANS, AND THAT HAS
THEM SEEING RED.
HERE IS A PROJECT FUNDED
BY CRONY CAPITOLISTS AND
FUNDED
BY CORPORATEISTS, WHO
ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES.
Reporter: BUT REPORTS
HAVE BEEN GREATLY
EXAGGERATED.
WHILE POLLS SHOW TEA PARTY
DROPPING FROM 25% IN 2010,
TO 8% TODAY.
TED CRUZ AND ED FISHER JOIN
A CONSERVATIVE GROUP.
IN THE HOUSE, MORE THAN 50
TEA PARTY MEMBERS MAKE UP A
STRONG VOTING BLOCK.
ULTIMATELY TEA PARTY LEADERS
SAY THE KEY TO A SUSTAINABLE
NATIONAL MOVEMENT IS
ELECTING HOUSE AND SENATE
CANDIDATES WHO ARE READY FOR
PRIME TIME.
WE REQUIRE OUR CANDIDATES
FOR ENDORSEMENT TO HAVE A
SPECIFIC DREAM IN THEIR
CAMPAIGN.
Reporter: JULIE TURNER
IS PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS
PATRIOTS.
SHE SAYS THE WAY TO KEEP THE
MOVEMENT ON TRACK IS BY
GROOMING CANDIDATES ON THE
LOCAL LEVEL AND GROWING A
BENCH OF ALL STARS.
IT BECOME CLEAR WHAT WE
NEEDED TO DO WAS TO BUILD
KIND OF A FARM TEAM.
START AT THE EASIEST
ELECTIONS, AND BRING PEOPLE
INTO OUR WEEKLY MEETINGS.
Reporter: HERE IN SAN
ANTONIO, THE ALAMO HAS COME
TO REPRESENT THE TEA PARTY
IN FREEDOM.
AND SO WHEN EVERYBODY TALKS
ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE TEA
PARTY IS DEAD, HERE IN
TEXAS, IT IS ANYTHING BUT.
THE TEA PARTY KEPT A SERIOUS
PRESENCE IN THE STATE
CAPITAL, CONVINCING
LAWMAKERS TO REIN IN
SPENDING.
IN PLACES LIKE BEAUMONT AND
MANY OTHER CITIES, THEY MEET
EACH WEEK TO PLOT STRATEGY.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
LIKE TO SEE US GIVE UP, BUT
THAT IS NOT GOING TO
HAPPEN.
Reporter: FOR PEOPLE
WHO THINK THE TEA PARTY IS
DEAD, WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO
THEM?
THE TEA PARTY IS NOT
DEAD.
I THINK THEY'RE RESTING.
Reporter: MUCH LIKE
THEIR G.O.P. COUNTERPARTS,
IMAGE IS A PROBLEM.
SINCE THE MEDIA HAS TURNED
THE PARTY INTO A FOUR-LETTER
WORD, CONSERVATIVE BLOGGER'S
SUGGEST A FOUR PART
STRATEGY, REBRAND, RECRUIT,
REPLAN, AND REENGAGE.
THIS WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN.
OUR NAME WILL CHANGE, THE
FACES WILL CHANGE; THE
PRINCIPLES WILL NOT.
Reporter: DAVID BRODY,
CBN NEWS, IN BEAUMONT,
TEXAS.
Pat: THE TEA PARTY HAS
BEEN DEMONIZED BECAUSE THEY
WERE POWERFUL.
AND THE TEA PARTY IS TRYING
TO GET THE GOVERNMENT TO CUT
BACK ON ITS MASSIVE
DEFICITS.
THE PRESIDENT AND THE
DEMOCRATS HAVE DIFFERENT
IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THAT.
LEE WEBB HAS MORE.
Lee: PRESIDENT OBAMA IS
TRYING TO AVOID AUTOMATIC
SPENDING CUTS THAT ARE SET
TO GO INTO EFFECT ON MARCH
1st UNLESS THE DEFICIT IS
CUT.
THE CUTS WOULD HIT THE
MILITARY AND DOMESTIC
PROGRAMS.
THE PRESIDENT WANTS CONGRESS
TO COME UP WITH A SHORT-TERM
MEASURE TO REDUCE THE
DEFICIT.
HIS PLAN INCLUDES SOME
SHORT-TERM SPENDING CUTS,
ALONG WITH HIGHER TAXES.
BUT REPUBLICANS ARE AGAINST
ANY NEW TAXES.
THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL
CALM COMES AS THE
CONGRESSIONAL OFFICE
PREDICTS THAT PROGRAMS WILL
KEEP DRIVING THE DEFICIT
HIGHER, AND SEVEN MILLION
AMERICANS WILL LOSE THEIR
HEALTH CARE UNDER OBAMACARE.
Pat: LIKE IT OR NOT,
THE REPUBLICANS ARE GUILTY.
I THINK IT IS TIME WE HAVE A
MMIA CULPA.
THEY HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR
THIS OUTRAGEOUS SPENDING.
THEY HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR
THE VARIOUS PORK-BARREL
PROJECTS.
WELL, THE MARKED ITEMS ON
THE BUDGET THAT THEY THINK
ARE SPECIAL TO THEM.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT GEORGE
BUSH, HE DID A LOT OF GOOD
STUFF, BUT HE WAS A
BIG-SPENDING LIBERAL.
SO WE STAR STARTED THESE
HUGE DEFICITS UNDER HIS
ADMINISTRATION, AND IT HAS
BEEN ACCELERATED UNDER
OBAMA.
AND SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE
ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS TO SAY
WE CAN'T AFFORD IT ANY
LONGER.
AND IT IS TIME TO SAY NO.
SO IT ISN'T DEMOCRAT,
REPUBLICAN.
IT IS AMERICAN.
IT IS HOW DO WE SAVE THIS
GREAT LAND FOR OUR CHILDREN
AND GRANDCHILDREN.
AND THE C.B.O. IS SUPPOSED
TO BE NON-PARTISAN.
AND THEY'RE SOUNDING AN
ALARM.
LET'S LISTEN TO THEM.
Lee: PAT, BRITISH
LAWMAKERS VOTED OVERWHELMING
IN FAVOR OF A BILL TO
LEGALIZE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.
PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON
CHAMPIONED THAT LEGISLATION,
BUT SOME OF HIS STRONGEST
OPPOSITION CAME FROM HIS OWN
PARTY.
THE YAY YEAS TO THE
LEFT.
THE YEAS HAVE IT.
Reporter: IT IS THE
FIRST OF SEVERAL VOTES
REQUIRED FOR THE U.K.'S
MARRIAGE BILL.
IF IT BECOMES LAW, THE
LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW
SAME-SEX COUPLES TO MARRY IN
BOTH CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS
CEREMONIES, AS LONG AS THE
RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION
ACCEPTS.
TODAY IT WAS DO WE ACCEPT
THE GAY PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO
CALL THE UNION A MARRIAGE.
MARRIAGE IS A GREAT
INSTITUTION, AND IT SHOULD
BE THERE FOR THOSE WHO ARE
GAY AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT.
Reporter: THE VOTE WENT
CAMERON'S WAY, BUT IT COST
HIM POPULARITY IN HIS OWN
PARTY.
MORE THAN HALF OF HIS 303
CONSERVATIVE LAWMAKERS VOTED
AGAINST THE BILL.
FOR MANY PEOPLE, YES, IT
IS A NON-ISSUE.
BUT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,
THEY FEEL THIS IS MAYBE THE
STRAW THAT HAS BROKEN THE
CAMEL'S BACK.
WHO ARE WE, WHO IS THIS
GOVERNMENT, WHO IS THIS
COUNTRY TO DETERMINE AND
IMPOSE AND NATIONALIZE A NEW
DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE,
WHICH WILL HAVE HUGE
IMPLICATIONS.
I THINK WHEN PEOPLE
UNDERSTAND THE FULL
RAMIFICATION OF IT, THEY
WILL BE CARED.
Reporter: AND SOME ARE
CONCERNED THAT THE ISSUE
WILL COST THE PARTY IN THE
NEXT GENERAL ELECTION.
IF PASSED, THE BILL WILL
COME INTO EFFECT IN 2015,
RIGHT AHEAD OF THAT
ELECTION.
CHARLENE ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.
Lee: PAT, WHAT DO YOU
THINK OF THIS?
Pat: I THINK IT IS ONE
MORE STEP DOWN THE SLIPPERY
SLOPE.
YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE IS VERY
CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IS PER
MISSABLE, AND WHAT IS NOT.
AND THE CHURCH HAS BEEN THE
HARBINGER OF MARRIAGE.
THIS IS A HOLY SACRAMENT,
PERFORMED IN A CHURCH.
NOW, CIVIL UNIONS ARE UNIONS
THAT ARE BLESSED BY THE
STATE, BY A JUSTICE OF THE
PEACE, AND BY SOME CIVIL
OFFICIAL.
AND THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT MARRIAGE IS SOMETHING
THAT IS ORDAINED OF GOD, AND
THE BIBLE SAYS FOR THIS
CAUSE SHALL A MAN LEAVE HIS
MOTHER AND FATHER AND CLEVE
TO HIS WIFE AND THE TWO
SHALL BE ONE FLESH.
AND IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT WHAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE
WHO ENGAGE IN OTHER FORMS OF
SEXUAL ACTIVITY.
IT ISN'T THAT PEOPLE ARE
POINTING FINGERS, OR TRYING
TO PROHIBIT SOMEBODY FROM
ENJOYING ALL OF THE BENEFITS
OF THE SOCIETY.
BUT THIS IS LIKE A
SACRAMENT.
IT IS LIKE THE GOVERNMENT IS
GOING TO SAY WHO IS GOING TO
TAKE COMMUNION IN THE
CATHOLIC CHURCH.
WHO IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED
TO GO TO SEMINARY AND BE A
PRIEST.
ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE
IN PARLIAMENT TO DETERMINE
WHO IS QUALIFIED?
DO WE WANT THAT IN AMERICA?
AND THE ANSWER, OF COURSE,
IS NO.
WELL, WE JUST KEEP EXTENDING
THESE CIVIL LIBERTIES.
WHY?
WHAT'S GOING ON?
WELL, IT'S AN ASSAULT ON
TRADITIONAL JUDEO CHRISTIAN
MORALITY THAT HAS BEEN GOING
ON FOR SOMETIME.
IT HAS TO DO WITH
PROCREATION.
IT HAS TO DO WITH SEXUAL
MORALS.
IT HAS TO DO WITH THE
NURTURE OF CHILDREN, AND THE
ABILITY OF CHILDREN TO
LIVE.
AND THIS IS THE BIG
BATTLEGROUND.
AND WE, APPARENTLY, ARE
FALLING DOWN BEFORE THE
FORCES THAT ARE GOING TO
CHANGE THIS SOCIETY.
AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT
THAT DOES TO US DOWN THE
ROAD.
LEE?
Lee: PAT, A NEWLY
DISCLOSED DOCUMENT EXPOSES
HOW MUCH LETHAL FORCE THE
ADMINISTRATION CAN AND WILL
USE AGAINST TERRORISTS.
EVEN IF THEY'RE AMERICAN
CITIZENS.
THE DOCUMENT FROM THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS
AMERICAN CITIZENS TIED TO
al-QAEDA CAN BE KILLED IF,
QUOTE,"AN INFORM HIGH-LEVEL
OFFICIAL BELIEVES THE TARGET
POSSESS AN IMMINENT THREAT.
THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT
REQUIRED TO HAVE CLEAR
EVIDENCE."
EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS
CORPS QUESTIONED THE
ADMINISTRATION ON THE
APPARENT DOUBLE STANDARD.
HOW IS DROPPING A BOMB ON
AN AMERICAN CITIZEN WITHOUT
ANY JUDICIAL REVIEW OR
TRIAL, NOT RAISE THE MORE
HUMAN RIGHTS QUESTIONS THAN
SOMETHING LIKE WATERBOARD.
THE PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS
THE GRAVITY OF THESE
ISSUES.
THAT IS WHY HE IS COMMITTED
TO TAKING VERY SERIOUSLY HIS
RESPONSIBILITIES IN THIS.
Lee: CARNEY WENT ON TO
SAY THAT TARGETED STRIKES
ARE LEGAL, ETHICAL, AND
WISE, AND HE ADDED THEY'RE
NECESSARY TO PREVENT FUTURE
ATTACKS ON THE U.S.
A MAGNITUDE 8 EARTHQUAKE
STRUCK THE SOUTH PACIFIC,
NORTH OF AUSTRALIA.
IT REACHED UP TO FIVE FEET,
THE TSUNAMI.
IT DAMAGED DOZENS OF HOMES
AND MISSING PEOPLE AND
DEAD.
IT LIES ON THE SO-CALLED
RING OF FIRE, AN ARC OF
EARTHQUAKES.
IRAN'S PRESIDENT,
AHMADINEJAD IS IN CAIRO.
THE TWO COUNTRIES HAVE NOT
HAD TIES SINCE THE ISLAMIC
REVOLUTION IN IRAN IN 1979.
AHMADINEJAD TALKED WITH
EGYPT'S PRESIDENT MOHAMMED
MORSI.
SOME SUNNI MUSLIMS WEREN'T
HAPPY ABOUT THE VISIT.
THEY HAVE SUPPORTED SEREN
SYRIAN DICTATOR ASSAD.
AHMADINEJAD WAS FORCED TO
FLEE AFTER SOMEONE TOOK OFF
THEIR SHOES AND THREW THEM
AT HIM.
Pat: SOONER OR LATER
THERE IS GOING TO BE A
STRUGGLE.
WE'LL FIND THAT STRUGGLE
TAKING PLACE IN THE MIDDLE
EAST BETWEEN THE SUNNIS AND
THE SHIAS.
IT CAN BE VERY VIOLENT AND
VERY NASTY.
OF COURSE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT
SYRIA, THE ASSAD FAMILY ARE
ALAWITE, WHICH IS A SMALL
SECT.
IT ISN'T EVEN ONE OF THE
MAIN BRANCHES, BUT THEY'VE
HELD POWER IN SEA SYRIA FOR
MANY, MANY YEARS.
THAT IS COMING, AND IT IS
GOING TO GET MORE INTENSE.
KRISTI.
Kristi: PAT, PIME GOING
TO SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT
AND ASK YOU A QUESTION: YOU
HAVE FOUR CHILDREN, 14
GRANDCHILDREN?
Pat: YES.
Kristi: WOULD YOU
CLASSIFY ANY OF THEM AS
BEING STRONG-WILLED?
Pat: I HOPE THEY'RE ALL
STRONG WILLED.
Kristi: CHECK THIS OUT
IN OUR NEXT STORY: THEY ARE
WILD, THEY ARE WONDERFUL,
AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN JUST
DRIVE YOU CRAZY.
WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
THE STRONG WILLED KID.
AND WE HAVE HELP FOR THE
PARENTS.
AND MORE AND MORE MUSLIMS
ARE COMING TO CHRIST THROUGH
DREAMS AND VISIONS.
Pat: THE BIBLE TELLS US
THAT IN THE LATTER DAY, I'M
GOING TO POUR OUT MY SPIRIT
ON ALL FLESH.
AND YOUR YOUNG MEN WILL SEE
VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN
WILL DREAM DREAMS.
WELL, DREAMING DREAMS AND
SEEING VISIONS OF JESUS,
IT'S HAPPENING TODAY.
NOT ONLY IN CHRISTIAN
COUNTRIES, BUT ACROSS THE
MUSLIM WORLD.
THE DESCENDENTS OF THE
PROPHET ABRAHAM, THE
PATRIARCH, MEN AND WOMEN ARE
COMING TO FAITH IN JESUS
CHRIST BECAUSE JESUS HIMSELF
HAS APPEARED TO THEM.
CHRIS MITCHELL BRINGS US
THIS AMAZING STORY.
HEY, GUYS, MY NAME IS
HAZEM.
Reporter: HAZEM HOSTS A
TV PROGRAM FOR MUSLIMS
CALLED "REFLECTIONS."
HE SAYS HE HEARS FROM
MUSLIMS ALL OF THE TIME THAT
TELL HIM THEY HAVE HAD A
DREAM OF JESUS CHRIST THAT
CHANGECHANGED THEIR LIVES.
I HAD ONE LADY WRITE ME
AND SAID SHE HAD A VISION OF
JESUS CHRIST, AND I TURNED
ON THE TELEVISION, AND THERE
YOU ARE.
HE SAID YOUR WORDS ARE SO
PEACEFUL, AND I FELL
ASLEEP.
AND SHE SAID, I SAW THE
LORD.
AND HE POINTED, AND POINTED
TO THE MAN WHO I KNEW IN THE
DREAM WAS ABRAHAM.
AND HE WAS SACRIFICING
ISAAC.
AND SHE SAID AS SOON AS I
LOOKED OVER, I HAD KNOWN
THAT JESUS WAS THE CHRIST,
THE SACRIFICE.
Reporter: FROM
INDONESIA TO MOROCCO, MUSLIM
MEN AND WOMEN ARE TURNING TO
FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST IN
UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS.
FOR MANY, THEIR CONVERSIONS
ARE NOT SIMPLY THE RESULT OF
MISSIONARIES OR PREACHERS
SHARING THE GOSPEL WITH
THEM.
INSTEAD, THEY'RE COMING TO
CHRIST BECAUSE THEY HAD
DREAMS AND VISIONS, WHERE
JESUS THEMSELVES APPEARS TO
THEM.
ALI ALSO MET JESUS IN A
DREAM WHILE ON HIS WAY TO
THE MEXICO FOR A PRIMAGE
CALLED THE HAJ.
I WAS GOING THERE TO
FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS IN
ISLAM.
Reporter: HIS
EXPERIENCE IN MECCA IS
DRAMATIZED IN THIS D.V.D.
CALLED "MORE THAN DREAMS."
BUT THAT NIGHT I SAW
JESUS IN A DREAM.
FIRST JESUS TOUCHED MY
FOREHEAD WITH HIS FINGER.
AND AFTER TOUCHING ME, HE
SAID, YOU BELONG TO ME.
AND THEN HE TOUCHED ME ABOVE
MY HEART.
YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED, FOLLOW
ME.
YOU BELONG TO ME, HE SAID.
I DECIDED, I'M NOT GOING TO
FINISH THE HAJ.
WHATEVER IT TAKES, I'M GOING
TO FOLLOW THAT VOICE.
Reporter: THE D.V.D.
TELLS OF OTHER MUSLIMS WHO
CAME TO FAITH IN JESUS
THROUGH A DREAM OR VISION.
WE'RE SEEING THAT ALL
AROUND.
WE'RE HEARING FROM PEOPLE
WHO NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT
JESUS AS SAVIOR, AND THEY'RE
CONTENT MUSLIMS, AND THEY'RE
HAVING DREAMS OVER AND
OVER.
Reporter: TOM DOYLE
SERVES IN e3 MINISTEMINISTRIES.
AND THEY WROTE THE BOOK, "IS
JESUS AWAKENING THE MUSLIM
WORLD?"
PEOPLE ARE SEEKING.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO
GO.
MAYBE THERE IS NO MISSIONARY
IN THE VILLAGE.
Reporter: HIS WOMAN
COMES FROM AN ASIAN
COUNTRY.
HER IDENTITY IS HIDDEN FOR
SECURITY REASONS.
IN A CHURCH, IF YOU ASK
HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME TO
CHRIST.
80% WILL SAY THEY SAW HIM IN
A DREAM.
Reporter: A CHRISTIAN
FRIEND CHALLENGED THIS WOMAN
TO ASK GOD TO SPEAK TO HER
PERSONALLY.
I SO I DECIDED TO ASK
HIM, AND SO I DID.
AND THE NEXT DAY I SAW A
DREAM, AND I SAW IN MY
DREAM -- I SAW JESUS WALK ON
A BRIDGE.
I DECIDED TO COME TO HIM.
Reporter: DOYLE SAYS
THE DREAM OR VISION IS
USUALLY THE START, NOT THE
END, OF A MUSLIM'S
CONVERSION.
NOBODY GOES TO SLEEP,
CHRIS, A MUSLIM AND WAKES UP
AND A CHRISTIAN, BUT IT
KNOCKS DOWN THE FALSE
BARRIERS IN ISLAM, THAT WE
WORSHIP THREE GODS AND THAT
THE BIBLE IS CORRUPTED.
Reporter: THEY SAY THIS
COULD BE SEEN AS A SPIRITUAL
EARTHQUAKE.
IT IS BEING TEED UP
POLITICALLY IN ISLAM, AND
THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MOVING
EVEN MORE.
HEARTS ARE CHANGING,
GOVERNMENTS FOUNDATIONS ARE
CHANGING, AND JESUS IS THE
ANSWER.
THEY CAN COME IN AND FILL
THAT NEED.
Reporter: MANY VETERAN
MISSIONARIES SAY THESE
DREAMS AND VISIONS, COMBINED
WITH SATELLITE TELEVISION,
ARE REACHING MUSLIMS IN
UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS.
THEY SAY MORE MUSLIMS ARE
COMING TO JESUS CHRIST THAN
IN ANY OTHER TIME OF THE
1400 YEAR HISTORY OF ISLAM.
THE DOYLES SAY BELIEVERS IN
THE WEST CAN JOIN THIS
SPIRITUAL REVOLUTION.
I THINK THE HARVEST IS
PLENTIFUL, BUT THE WORKERS
ARE FEW.
WE ARE COMMITTED, ALL OF US
AS BELIEVERS, WE HAVE GOT TO
REACH THOSE WITH THE GOSPEL
OF CHRIST.
NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO
GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST, BUT
THEY CAN PRAY.
AND NO LEADER, NO
GOVERNMENT, CAN BLOCK
INTERCESSION AROUND THE
WORLD.
SO WE NEED TO PRAY AS
BELIEVERS, THAT GOD WOULD
CONTINUE TO PUSH THE GOSPEL
OUT TO THE ENDS OF THE
EARTH.
Reporter: CHRIS
MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,
JERUSALEM.
Pat: MORE THAN DREAMS.
WE HAVE BEEN RECORDING
INSTANCES IN SAUDI ARABIA,
IN EGYPT, IN THE NORTH
AFRICAN COUNTRIES, IN IRAQ,
IN IRAN, ALL
OVER THAT AREA,
WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION
FROM HUMAN
BEINGS.
JESUS HIMSELF IS APPEARING
TO PEOPLE.
BUT THEY'RE SINCERE.
THEY'RE HONEST.
THEY REALLY ARE SEEKING
GOD.
THEY HAVE A DEDICATION THAT
PUTS MANY CHRISTIANS TO
SHAME.
AND GOD IS LOOKING AT THEIR
HEART AND SAYING, YOU NEED
TO KNOW.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE
TRUTH.
YOU'RE ASKING FOR WISDOM.
AND I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO
YOU.
WE APPLAUD IT.
WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR IT
TO HAPPEN.
KRISTI?
Kristi: COMING UP,
WE'VE GOT YOUR E-MAIL
QUESTIONS.
IAN WANTS TO KNOW, "IS IT
POSSIBLE FOR DEMONS TO HAVE
AN OPEN DOOR INTO MY LIFE
BECAUSE OF SOMETHING IN MY
HOME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT?"
WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER HIS
QUESTION AND SO MUCH MORE
WHEN WE BRING IT ON.
PLUS, THE STAR OF SWAMP
BLOGGERS.
BOBBY.
YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE A SIDE
OF HIM YOU MAY NEVER SEE ON
HIS TV SHOW.
SO WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T GO
AWAY.
Kristi: ALL RIGHT.
IT'S TIME FOR "BRING IT
ON."
SO WE'RE GOING TO THROW ALL
OF THE HARD QUESTIONS TO
PAT.
ARE YOU READY?
Pat: LET'S GO FOR IT.
Kristi: AARON SAYS, "IS
IT POSSIBLE FOR DEMONS TO
HAVE AN OPEN DOOR IN MY LIFE
BECAUSE OF SOMETHING IN MY
HOUSE THAT I DON'T KNOW
ABOUT?"
Pat: AARON, IT IS
TRUE.
FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER
THERE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE
BEEN DEDICATED TO DEMONIC
SPIRITS.
WHETHER IT IS JEWELRY,
WHETHER THEY ARE STATUES,
WHETHER THEY ARE THINGS
INVOLVED IN SOME SORT OF
WORSHIP -- YOU NEVER KNOW.
PEOPLE GO OVERSEAS AND THEY
SAY, ISN'T THIS LOVELY AND
ISN'T THIS PART OF THE
ANCIENT CIVILIZATION, AND
THEY BRING IT HOME AND PUT
IT INTO THEIR HOUSE, AND
DON'T REALIZE THEY HAVE
OPENED THE DOOR TO SOME KIND
OF DEMONIC PRESENCE.
SO THE ANSWER IS YES.
I WOULD CAUTION PEOPLE ABOUT
HAVING THINGS IN YOUR HOME
THAT HAVE ANY CONNECTION TO
THE OCCULT BECAUSE, YES, IT
WILL BE AN OPEN DOOR INTO
DEMONIC ACTIVITY.
Kristi: CANDY WRITES
AND SAYS, "I HAVE A QUESTION
ABOUT THE LIABL BIBLE VERSE
THAT SAY, GIVE US TODAY OUR
DAILY BREAD.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
I THINK IT IS BECAUSE WE
WANT OUR SPIRIT TO BE FED.
MY HUSBAND SAYS IT IS
EVERYTHING WE NEED, SUCH AS
FOOD.
HELP US OUT, PAT."
Pat: THAT'S THE LORD'S
PRAYER, AND IT SAYS, YOUR
KINGDOM COME, YOUR WILL BE
DONE, ON EARTHS IT IS IN
HEAVEN.
SO WE'RE PRAYING FOR AN
EXTENSION OF GOD'S HEAVEN.
AND THE NEXT PART SAYS, GIVE
US WHAT WE NEED TO SUSTAIN
US.
IT CAN BE SPIRITUALLY, BUT
WE NEED FOOD.
IT IS A SLANG TERM FOR
MONEY.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF
EVERYBODY WAS BROKE AND
STARVING.
YOU WOULDN'T BE EXTENDING
GOD'S KINGDOM IF YOU WERE
MALNOURISHED AND DYING.
SO YOUR HUSBAND IS DYING.
THIS IS EVERYTHING.
IT IS NOT JUST SPIRITUAL.
IT IS ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE,
TO EQUIP US TO BE PART OF
YOUR KINGDOM COMING ON EARTH
AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.
Kristi: ELIZABETH SAYS,
I LOVE THE SHOW, BUT I HAVE
TO WORK WHEN IT AIRS.
MY QUESTION IS THIS, WHEN
YOU'RE PRAYING FOR SOMEONE'S
HEALING, CAN I STILL RECEIVE
IT EVEN THOUGH IT IS A
RECORDED SHOW?"
Pat: I'LL TELL YOU A
STORY.
IT'S A CUTE STORY.
THIS PROGRAM GOES LIVE IN
MOST PLACES, BUT IT IS
RECORDED IN CERTAIN
INSTANCES.
AND WE USED TO RECORD IT TO
HAVE IT ON A DELAY IN OTHER
AREAS.
SO WE SENT TAPES OUT.
SO, OKAY, WE SENT A TAPE
OUT.
WE HAD PRAYER ON THIS
PROGRAM.
AND WE WERE PRAYING, AND THE
LORD BEGAN TO SPEAK ABOUT
THE HEALING OF A KNEE.
AND SO I SAID, THERE IS
SOMEBODY'S KNEE WHO GOT ITS
HEALING, AND I BELIEVE IT IS
THE LEFT KNEE.
THIS TAPE IS GOING OUT, AND
THERE IS A WOMAN WATCHING,
AND SHE LOOKS AT THE SCREEN
AND THE TAPE, AND SHE
DOESN'T KNOW IT IS A TAPE,
AND SHE SAID, NOT THE LEFT
KNEE, DUMMY, IT'S THE
RIGHT.
TO WHICH THE TAPE SAYS TO
HER, NO, IT'S THE RIGHT
KNEE.
TRUE STORY.
AND THEN SHE WAS HEALED.
IT IS AMAZING.
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: GOD IS -- I MEAN,
HE LIVES IN ETERNITY.
AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING
IS BEGINNING AND END.
HE IS ALWAYS PRESENT.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS FOR ALL
ETERNITY.
SO THE ANSWER IS, YES, GOD
WILL DO THINGS ON TAPES THAT
WE COULDN'T BELIEVE.
Kristi: ABSOLUTELY.
WELL, LEE WRITES IN AND AS,
"ARE WE REQUIRED TO GRANT
FORGIVENESS TO THOSE WHO
HAVE NOT REPENTED?"
OH, MY GOODNESS.
Pat: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT
REQUIRED.
BUT IF YOU HARBOR BITTERNESS
FOR SOMEONE, IT WILL EAT YOU
LIKE A CANCER.
WHETHER OR NOT THEY ASKED
FOR FORGIVENESS, YOU OUGHT
TO FORGIVE.
BECAUSE WHY WOULD YOU WANT
BUBBLING INSIDE YOU AN ACID
THAT WILL EAT YOUR STOMACH
AND EAT YOUR BODY.
YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY AND
FREE.
I FORGIVE, LORD, AND PLEASE
FORGIVE ME.
IF THEY ASKED FOR YOUR
FORGIVENESS, THAT'S NICE.
IF THEY HAVEN'T ASKED YOU,
IT DOESN'T MATTER.
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS
FORGIVE THOSE WHO HAVE
INJURED YOU BECAUSE THEN
YOU'RE FREE.
AND IT'S PRACTICAL, ISN'T
IT?
DO YOU HAVE TO DO IT?
YOU'D BE FOOLISH NOT TO DO
IT.
OKAY.
Kristi: I FORGIVE ALL
OF THE TIME.
Pat: I HAVE SO MANY
THINGS TO FORGIVE FOR SO
MANY INSTANCES.
AND WHEN YOU FINALLY DO, IT
IS A GREAT RELIEF.
Kristi: BETTY WRITES IN
AND SAYS, "I FIND IT EASIER
TO FORGIVE SOMEONE ELSE THAN
MYSELF.
HOW DO I FORGIVE MYSELF?"
THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION
EVERYONE ASKS.
Pat: YOU'RE NOT THE
ULTIMATE JUDGE.
YOU'RE PLAYING A ROLE, AND
GOD SAYS HE FORGIVES YOU.
YOU NEED TO READ THE BIBLE
AND SEE WHAT IT SAYS.
AS FAR AS THE EAST IS FROM
THE WEST, THAT'S HOW FAR I'M
GOING TO TAKE THEIR SINS
FROM HIM.
BLESS THOSE WHO FORGIVE ALL
YOUR INIQUITIES AND HEALS
ALL YOUR DISEASES.
REALIZE GOD HAS SET YOU
FREE.
AND WHAT HE WANTS -- THIS IS
IMPORTANT -- HE WANTS YOUR
CONSCIENCE TO BE CLEANSED OF
DEAD WORKS TO SERVE THE
LIVING GOD.
GOD WANTS YOU TO SERVE HIM.
HE WANTS YOU TO BE FREE.
SO CARRYING A BUNCH OF
BAGGAGE, YOU'RE NOT HELPING
HIM OR HELPING ANYBODY
ELSE.
SO LET IT GO AND LET GOD'S
WORD TAKE PRECEDENCE IN YOUR
LIFE.
NOT WHAT YOU IMAGINED, BUT
WHAT GOD'S WORD CLEARLY
SAYS.
Kristi: I LOVE IT!
GOOD JOB.
HIGH-FIVE.
Pat: IS THAT ALL?
Kristi: I'M FINISHED.
Pat: HEY, HAVE YOU SEEN
SOME OF THOSE SHOWS -- MAN,
I LOVE THEM.
THE DUCK DYNASTY AND THE
SWAMP BLOGGERS, AND THE GOLD
RUSH.
Kristi: IS THAT ON THE
COUNTRY CHANNEL OR SOMETHING
LIKE THAT?
I GUESS.
Pat: WHAT CHANNEL?
Kristi: C.M.T.?
Pat: A&E.
DO I WATCH?
OF COURSE I WATCH THEM.
THAT DUCK DYNASTY, I THINK
SOME OF IT WAS FILMED DOWN
HERE.
Kristi: WHAT DO THEY
DO, KILL DUCKS?
WHAT'S THE STORY LINE?
Pat: OF COURSE THEY
KILL DUCKS.
THEY TRAIN THE DUCKS AND GO
OUT AND SHOOT THE DUCKS,
MAYBE FEED THE DUCKS.
IT IS A POPULAR SHOW.
BOBBY GOODSON BECAME A
CELEBRITY DOING WHAT HE DOES
EVERY DAY, THAT'S PICKING UP
LOGS OUT IN THE SWAMP.
THAT'S TOUGH WORK.
HE IS USED TO OVERCOMING ALL
KINDS OF OBSTACLES TO GET
THE JOB DONE.
BUT FOR YEARS, BOBBY FOUGHT
A LOSING BATTLE WITH
HIMSELF.
WATCH THIS.
AN OLD MAN TOLD ME ONE
TIME YEARS AGO, HE SAID,
SON, FIND A NICHE IN LIFE
AND YOU'LL MAKE A LIVING.
Reporter: BOBBY FOUND
HIS NICHE AS A SWAMP
LOGGER.
IN FACT, HE OWNS A
SUCCESSFUL LOGGING COMPANY
IN JACKSONVILLE, NORTH
CAROLINA.
AND HE WAS FEATURED ON SWAMP
LOGGERS.
I STILL DON'T FEEL LIKE
MYSELF AS A STAR.
I FEEL LIKE I'M A PERSON
WITH A JOB AND WE JUST DID
OUR JOB.
IN THE TYPE OF WORK WE DO,
EVERY DAY IS A CHALLENGE.
EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT.
WE'VE ALWAYS GOT OBSTACLES
TO OVERCOME.
I GUESS WHAT GETS ME OUT OF
BED IS TO COME OUT AND FACE
THE CHALLENGES.
TO DO SOMETHING THAT NOBODY
CAN'T DO OR DON'T WANT TO
DO.
Reporter: BUT BOBBY
WASN'T ALWAYS THE FACE OF A
REALITY TV SHOW.
HE CAME FROM FOUR
GENERATIONS OF LOGGERS.
AS A YOUNG BOY, HE LEARNED
TO PARTY WITH THE OLDER KIDS
HE KNEW.
HE EVEN WENT TO SCHOOL DRUNK
IN THE FIFTH GRADE.
LOOKING BACK OVER MY
LIFE, I COULDN'T REMEMBER A
DAY THAT I WENT WITHOUT
GETTING HIGH OR DRINKING OR
SOME TYPE OF DRUG.
Reporter: BOBBY DATED
PLENTY OF GIRLS.
WHEN HE WAS 14, HE MET
LAURIE, BUT THEIR
RELATIONSHIP WAS VOLATILE
FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
WHEN I GOT MAD, I DIDN'T
KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT.
IF IT WAS A LITTLE PUSH,
I WOULD PUSH BACK.
IF IT WAS SCREAMING AND
YELLING AND CURSING, I WAS
RIGHT UP IN HIS FACE, TOO.
I MEAN, I KNEW HOW TO PUSH
THE RIGHT BUTTONS.
WHATEVER I THOUGHT WOULD
HURT HER THE WORST, THAT'S
WHAT I WOULD TELL HER.
THE WORST THING THAT
BOBBY EVER SAID TO ME, I
STILL HAVE REMEMBER THE
TIME.
HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID,
I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE.
IT PHYSICALLY MADE ME SICK.
THERE WERE DAYS THAT I COULD
NOT GET OUT OF BED.
Reporter: WHEN BOBBY
AND LAURIE WERE JUST 16
YEARS OLD, THEY HAD A BABY
THEY NAMED JUSTIN.
THEY MARRIED FIVE YEARS
LATER.
BETS WERE PLACED ON HOW LONG
THE MARRIAGE WOULD LAST.
I DIDN'T KNOW IT UNTIL
AFTER THE WEDDING, BUT MY
BROTHER HAD ACTUALLY TAKEN
BETS WITHIN A YEAR I WOULD
KILL HER.
Reporter: BOBBY'S
BROTHER DIDN'T REALIZE HOW
CLOSE HE HAD COME TO
FORETELLING THE FUTURE.
ONE NIGHT BOBBY CAME HOME
DRUNK.
WHEN LAURIE FOUND HIM PASSED
OUT, SHE TRIED TO WAKE HIM.
BOBBY FLEW INTO A RAGE.
HE PICKED ME UP BY MY
THROAT, AND I REMEMBER MY
HEAD SLAMMING UP AGAINST THE
WALL.
THE PHONE RANG, AND I
REMEMBER HIM LETTING ME GO,
AND I FELL ON THE BACK OF
THAT BED, AND IT BROKE IT.
HE ANSWERED THE PHONE LIKE
THERE WAS NOTHING GOING ON.
AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE
SAID, IT'S YOUR DAD.
Reporter: LAURIE CHOKED
HER WAY THROUGH THE
CONVERSATION, AND BOBBY FELL
ASLEEP.
THE NEXT MORNING HE DIDN'T
REMEMBER WHAT HE HAD DONE TO
LAURIE OR TO THEIR HOME.
I REMEMBER DOORS KNOCKED
OFF HINGES, HOLES IN THE
WALLS.
THE WHOLE HOUSE WAS IN
DISARRAY, AND I COULDN'T
REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED.
I MADE UP MY MIND I CANNOT
LIVE LIKE THIS.
I COULD HAVE KILLED LAURIE.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE
JUSTIN WAS AT.
I KNEW SOMETHING HAD TO
CHANGE IN MY LIFE OR IT WAS
GOING TO END VERY BADLY.
Reporter: THE FOLLOWING
SUNDAY, BOBBY AND LAURIE
WENT TO CHURCH.
BOBBY PRAYED AND GAVE HIS
LIFE TO JESUS THAT DAY.
I FELT SO GOOD INSIDE
THAT NIGHT, THE DAY I LEFT.
I KNEW GOD WAS GOING TO HELP
ME.
I KNEW THAT.
IMMEDIATELY THE ALCOHOL AND
ALL OF THAT STUFF WAS GONE.
Reporter: AFTER SEEING
THE DRAMATIC CHANGE IN
BOBBY, LAURIE PRAYED TO
SURRENDER HER LIFE TO CHRIST
THE NEXT WEEK IN CHURCH.
ALL I KNEW WHEN I LEFT
THAT NIGHT, I KNEW MY LIFE
WAS DIFFERENT.
I TRULY MEANT BUSINESS THIS
TIME.
NO ONE HAD TO TELL ME YOU'VE
GOT TO STOP DRINKING OR
DOING DRUGS.
I KNEW I WAS GOING TO GIVE
THOSE THINGS UP.
Reporter: BOBBY AND
LAURIE WERE BAPTIZED, AND AS
THEY PUT GOD FIRST IN THEIR
MARRIAGE, THEY LEARNED HOW
TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
I KNEW WE HAD FINALLY DID
SOMETHING RIGHT IN OUR LIFE,
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE
THAT.
EVERY OPPORTUNITY I HAD TO
COMPLIMENT HER ON HER FOOD,
STUFF I DIDN'T DO WHEN WE
GOT MARRIED.
Reporter: THEY HAVE TWO
CHILDREN, JUSTIN AND
BRITTANY, AND FIVE
GRANDCHILDREN.
BOBBY AND HIS WIFE STILL RUN
THEIR COMPANY.
BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVE
HIS WORK OR THE TV SERIES,
BOBBY AND LAURIE SAY THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT
EVER HAPPENED TO THEM IS
FINDING GOD.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING
GOD HAS DONE FOR ME IS
SAVING ME.
OUR CHILDREN ALL LOVE THE
LORD AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN
GO TO CHURCH.
IT IS SOMETHING MONEY CAN'T
GIVE YOU.
JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD
AND SAVIOR.
I OWE EVERYTHING I HAVE
TODAY, THE MOST IMPORTANT
THING, APART FROM HIM, IS MY
FAMILY.
I JUST CANNOT WAIT TO GET TO
HEAVEN.
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE
PERSON THAT DID THAT FOR
ME.
Pat: WHAT A JOY IT IS
TO KNOW THE LORD AND YOU'RE
FREE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS
VIOLENCE.
THE HEART OF MAN IS
DECEITFUL AND DESPERATELY
WICKED, THE BIBLE SAYS.
INSIDE OF US THERE IS A
RAGING STORM.
AND UNTIL THAT IS CONVERTED,
EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN,
HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF
GOD.
HE IS APART FROM GOD.
HE IS WITHOUT GOD.
WITHOUT HOPE IN THE WORLD.
AND ALL OF A SUDDEN JESUS
COMES IN AND A
TRANSFORMATION TAKES PLACE.
AND A MARRIAGE IS
TRANSFORMED.
THE CHILDREN ARE
TRANSFORMED.
THE BUSINESS IS
TRANSFORMED.
GOD TRANSFORMS EVERYTHING.
AND THEN GENERATION AFTER
GENERATION, THE BLESSING OF
GOD CONTINUES.
DO YOU WANT THAT BLESSING?
ARE YOU FIGHTING?
IS THERE A RAGE INSIDE OF
YOU?
THAT YOU KNOW AND YOU'RE
SCARED OF, AND IT'S
DANGEROUS.
AND IF IT GETS TRIGGERED
WITH ALCOHOL OR DRUGS, YOU
GO WILD.
AND YOU SAY, I'M SO ASHAMED
AND THEN YOU GO BACK AND DO
IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T
CONTROL IT.
GIVE IT TO THE LORD.
PRAY WITH ME NOW.
LET'S ASK HIM TO TAKE OVER.
PRAY THESE WORDS.
LORD JESUS, IN ME THERE IS
NO GOOD THING.
IN MY HEART THERE IS
WICKEDNESS.
BUT, OH, GOD, I KNOW THAT
YOU LOVE ME SO MUCH THAT YOU
DIED FOR ME, AND THAT YOU
SEE ME AS PERFECT IN YOU.
AND SO, LORD, I COME TO YOU
AND I ASK THAT YOU MAY
PERFECT WHAT YOU HAVE
INTENDED FOR ME.
I SURRENDER TO YOU, LORD.
COME INTO MY HEART.
TAKE OVER.
AND LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME.
THANK YOU, LORD.
IN JESUS' NAME, THANK YOU.
AMEN.
BY THE WAY, IF YOU PRAYED
WITH ME THEN, I WANT TO GIVE
YOU SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP
YOU GET STARTED.
WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF BOOKS
WE WILL SEND YOU ABOUT ALL
KINDS OF INTERESTING
THINGS.
BUT THIS ONE PARTICULARLY.
IT'S A LITTLE PACK OF
SCRIPTURES IN HERE.
60 SOMETHING VERSES OF THE
BIBLE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT
HAPPENS WHEN YOU COME TO
JESUS.
AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS, AL
WITH A COMPACT DISC, IF YOU
PRAYED WITH ME.
JUST SAY, LOOK, I PRAYED
WITH PAT.
I GAVE MY HEART TO THE LORD,
JESUS CHRIST.
1-800-759-0700.
IT'S A TOLL-FREE NUMBER.
JUST A LITTLE PROGRAM NOTE:
I WAS TRYING TO POSITION
SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTARIES
THAT ARE SHOWING NOW,
BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF
THEM.
DISCOVERY CHANNEL IS THE ONE
THAT HAS MOST OF THESE
SHOWS, BUT THIS "DUCK
DYNASTY," I UNDERSTAND IS AN
A&E.
THEY ARE ALL TRYING IT AND
THEY HAVE HUGE AUDIENCES.
"PAWN STARS" IS ONE AND
"GOLD RUSH," ALL OF THESE
SHOWS AND THEY'RE GETTING A
LOT OF AUDIENCE.
MOSTLY ON DISCOVERY, AND
SOME ON A&E.
I WANT TO CORRECT THAT
MISCONCEPTION THAT I SAID
EARLIER.
SO, KRISTI, GOOD THINGS ARE
HAPPENING.
Kristi: THEY ARE, PAT.
STILL TO COME, SOLUTIONS --
PRAISE GOD -- FOR PARENTS OF
STRONG WILLED CHILDREN.
FIND OUT HOW FROM A MOTHER
WHO KNOWS.
WHY?
BECAUSE SHE IS THE MOTHER OF
A STRONG-WILLED CHILD
HERSELF.
Lee: WELCOME BACK TO
"THE 700 CLUB."
THE PENTAGON IS SET TO
EXTEND BENEFITS TO SAME-SEX
PARTNERS OF MILITARY
PERSONNEL.
LEON PANETTA HAS NOT MADE A
FINAL DECISION ON WHICH
BENEFITS WILL BE INCLUDED.
HERE IS WHAT HE IS
CONSIDERING: ALLOWING
SAME-SEX PARTNERS ACCESS TO
THE ON-BASE COMMISSARY AND
SOME HEALTH AND WELFARE
PROGRAMS.
FULL BENEFITS, LIKE HOUSING
AND MEDICAL BENEFITS, WOULD
REQUIRE THE REPEAL OF THE
DEFENSIVE MARRIAGE ACT.
THE FEDERAL LAW FORBIDS THE
U.S. GOVERNMENT FROM
RECOGNIZING ANY MARRIAGE
OTHER THAN FROM A MAN AND A
WOMAN.
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FIRST
VISIT TO ISRAEL SINCE TAKING
OFFICE IN 2008.
THE VISIT IS PLANNED FOR
THIS SPRING SOMETIME, BUT
THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NOT
RELEASED THE DATES OR
ITNARY.
HIS LAST VISIT WAS DURING
HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IN
2008.
THE DECISION IS DRAWING
CRITICISM FROM SOME
PRO-ISRAEL GROUPS, WHO SAYS
THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT
SUPPORTIVE OF THE U.S.'S
CLOSEST ALLIE IN THE MIDDLE
EAST.
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STAY TUNED, PAT AND KRISTI
WILL BE BACK WITH MORE AFTER
THIS.
Kristi: WELL, IF YOU'RE
THE PARENT OF A
STRONG-WILLED CHILD, YOU
ALREADY KNOW WHAT I'M ABOUT
TO TELL YOU: YOU CAN'T MAKE
YOUR CHILD DO ANYTHING.
I CAN, THOUGH.
TAKE A LOOK.
IS YOUR CHILD DIFFICULT
TO DISCIPLINE?
IMPOSSIBLE TO MOTIVATE?
DRIVING YOU NUTS?
CHANCES ARE YOU'RE THE
PARENT OF A STRONG-WILLED
CHILD.
THESE CHILDREN PRESENT
UNIQUE AND OFTEN FRUSTRATING
CHALLENGES FOR PARENTS.
BUT HELP IS HERE.
CYNTHIA TOBIAS IS AN AUTHOR
, A PARENT, AND AN EXPERT.
SHE SHARES HOW TO CHANNEL
YOUR CHILD'S PASSION AND
DETERMINATION IN A POSITIVE
WAY.
SHE OFFERS HELP FOR
STRONG-WILLED CHILDREN AND
PARENTS WHO LOVE THEM.
Kristi: PLEASE WELCOME
TO "THE 700 CLUB" CYNTHIAúo
TOBIAS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING@ó
HERE.@ó@ó
THANK YOU.
Kristi: I'M GOING TO@í
TRY WITH ALL THAT I HAVE NOT
TO MAKE THIS INTO A PERSONAL
COUNSELLING SESSION FOR
MYSELF.
I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS@í
INTERVIEW, AND THE STORY
WE'VE ALL HEARD.
THE LITTLE GIRL WAS IN THE
CLASSROOM, AND THE TEACHER
SAID, SIT DOWN, SIT DOWN,
AND THE LITTLE GIRL FINALLY
SAT DOWN AND SAID, I MAY BE
SITTING DOWN, BUT I'M
STANDING UP IN MY HEART.
THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF A
STRONG-WILLED CHILD THAT YOU
ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
THAT'S RIGHT.
Kristi: LET'S TALK
ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL
CHALLENGES?
I AM A STRONG-WILLED
CHILD, AND I HAVE A
STRONG-WILLED CHILD, AND MY
MOTHER PRAYED THAT WOULD BE
SO.
I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS
LIKE.
Kristi: I DO.
I THINK GOD HAS A STRONG
WILL.
HE JUST WANTS US TO USE IT
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AS PARENTS OF STRONG-WILLED
KIDS, WE HAVE THIS AMAZING
OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THAT
CHILD CHANGE THE WORLD THE
RIGHT WAY.
IN ORDER TO DO THAT -- I'VE
TALKED TO LITERALLY
THOUSANDS OF STRONG-WILLED
CHILDREN, AND THE BOOK
REFLECTS NOT JUST IT TAKES
ONE TO KNOW ONE, BUT FOR SO
MANY OTHER MAMAS IF YOU CAN@Z
JUST BRING OUT THE BEST IN
US AND GET US GOING IN THE
RIGHT DIRECTION, IT COULD
MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE.
Kristi: AND I THINK
WHEN PARENTS LABEL THEIR
CHILD AT STRONG-WILLED,
THERE IS A NEGATIVE
PERCEPTION OF THAT, AND IT'S
NOT.
A STRONG-WILLED PERSON IS
GREAT BECAUSE YOU CAN
NAVIGATE THEM AND THEY CAN
DO GREAT THINGS.
ABSOLUTELY.
UNDAUNTED, NOT EASILY
DISCOURAGED.
IF I SAY TO A PARENT, DO YOU
HAVE A STRONG-WILLED CHILD,
AND THEY'LL SAY, OH, NO, HE
IS VERY GOOD.
IT IS NOT A GOOD OR BAD
THING.@í
STRONG-WILLED CAN GO@z
SIDEWAYS PRETTY EASILY, BUT
IT IS SUCH A POSITIVE TRAIT,pÑ
AND IT IS DIFFICULT FOR
PARENTS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE@Z
PRACTICE ON YOU WHEN WE'RE
YOUNGER, RIGHT?
WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE ALL
OF THE RAW TALENT AND
ENERGY.
GOD HAS GIVEN ME THIS STRONG
WILL AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT
TO DO WITH IT.
SO MY PARENTS NEED TO HELP
DIRECT IT.
Kristi: YOU SAID
SOMETHING KEY, CYNTHIA, AND
THAT IS THE PARENTS HAVE TO
DIRECT THAT CHILD.
I'M ONE OF FIVE KIDS.
AND MY PARENTS AND I HAVE
HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS
BECAUSE ALL OF THE FIVE
CHILDREN WERE VERY
DIFFERENT.
I ALWAYS WONDERED, MOM AND
DAD, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE
TO DEAL WITH EACH OF US.
THEIR ANSWER WAS, THEY
PRAYED.
LORD, YOU CREATED THIS
CHILD.
I CAN'T DO THIS TO THIS
CHILD AND TEACH THIS CHILD
THIS WAY BECAUSE EVERYONE
LEADS DIFFERENTLY.
IS THAT ONE OF THE PATTERNS,
TOO, THAT A STRONG-WILLED
CHILD LEARNS DIFFERENTLY?
EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.
BUT YOU'VE GOT THE KEY
THERE, TOO.
WE KNOW THE CREATOR AND
DESIGNER PERSONALLY, AND IT
IS A WONDERFUL ADVANTAGE TO
REACH OUT TO THAT
STRONG-WILLED CHILD AND FIND
THE STRENGTH INSTEAD OF
FOCUSING ON THE WEAKNESS.
BECAUSE IF YOU FOCUS ON WHAT
YOU DON'T LIKE IN ME, THEN
MY REACTION AS A
STRONG-WILLED CHILD IS GOING
TO BE DEFENSIVE AND ANGRY.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
HOW CAN WE START WITH
STRENGTHS BUT GET YOU WHERE
YOU NEED TO BE.
THE BOTTOTHETHE BOTTOM LINE
IS STILL THE BOTTOM LINE.
AND HOW YOU TALK TO THE
STRONG-WILLED CHILD CAN MAKE
ALL OF THE DIFFERENCE.
Kristi: CYNTHIA, BEFORE
WE HIT ALL OF DIFFERENT
STEPS, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS
ONE ISSUE.
AS CHRISTIANS, IT IS REALLY
EASY TO LOOK AT THAT CHILD
THAT SEEMS STRONG-WILLED AND
LABEL THEM AS REBELLIOUS.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
WHAT IS THE FINE LINE OF?
YOU'RE BEING REBELLIOUS OR
STRONG-WILLED?
SOMETIMES IT TURNS MORE
IN DESIGNATION.
PROVERBS 3: 5-6: "TRUST THE
LORD WITH ALL OF YOUR
HEART."
AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY SAYS,
"IN ALL OF YOUR WAYS,
ACKNOWLEDGE GOD."?
IN RAISING MY STRONG-WILLED
CHILD, IT WAS ALWAYS COMING
BACK TO THAT.
IS THE DESIRE OF YOUR LIFE,
MIKE, TO BRING HONOR AND
GLORY TO GOD?
YOU KNOW IT IS.
DO YOU THINK WHAT YOU
JUST DID SAYS THAT?
WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT
BOTTOM LINE.
Kristi: I GREW UP IN A
GENERATION IF I TELL YOU TO
DO SOMETHING, YOU DO IT.
YOU DON'T ASK.
AND I'M A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
I ASK MY SON, TELL ME WHAT
YOU THINK SO WE CAN WALK
THIS TOGETHER.
SOMETIMES IT IS A POSITIVE
AND A NEGATIVE.
BECAUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF MY
INSTRUCTION, HE IS TALKING
ABOUT.?
AND I'M LIKE, DON'T MAKE ME
HAVE TO BEAT YOU.
THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE
BONY FINGER.
IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU ARE
TELLING ME, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE
POINTING YOUR BONY FINGER AT
ME SAYING, LISTEN, THIS IS
WHAT I NEED YOU TO DO.
YOU CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM
LINE, BUT IF YOU TAKE THE
BONY FINGER AWAY -- IN OTHER
WORDS, INSTEAD OF SAYING,
THAT'S NOT RIGHT, SAY DO YOU
THINK THAT IS RIGHT?
DO YOU THINK THERE IS
ANOTHER WAY WE COULD DO
THIS?
DID YOU MEAN TO HURT YOUR
SISTER'S FEELINGS?
IT GIVES ME, THE
STRONG-WILLED PERSON A
GRACEFUL FIRE ESCAPE, LIKE,
NO, IT DOESN'T.
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS
YOU CAN STILL GET ME TO
WHERE I WANT TO BE.
I TALKED TO THOUSANDS OF
KIDS WHO NEVER HAVE BEEN TO
CHURCH WHO SAY, I DON'T WANT
TO GET BY WITH BAD BEHAVIOR,@z
AND I WOULDN'T RESPECT YOU
IF YOU LET ME, BUT IT IS
ALWAYS WORTH A TRY.
SO IT IS ALL IN HOW YOU
COMMUNICATE YOUR AUTHORITY,
HOW YOU TALK TO ME, AND HOW
YOU COUCH YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND THERE ARE SOME VERY
PRACTICAL WAYS, THAT WITH
PRACTICE, IT IS ALMOST LIKE
MAGIC.
Kristi: GIVE US SOME
STRATEGIES BEFORE WE
CONCLUDE THE INTERVIEW.
WHAT ARE SOME STRATEGIES?
KEEP YOUR VOICE CALM.
KEEP YOUR VOICE FIRM BUT
CALM.
THOSE WHO ANGER YOU CONTROL
YOU.
IF YOUR STRONG-WILLED CHILD
CAN BAIT YOU AND MAKE YOU
RAISE YOUR VOICE AND MAKE
YOU LOOSE YOUR TEMPER, WE
JUST WRESTLED THE SITUATION
INTO OUR CONTROL INSTEAD OF
YOURS.
EVEN THOUGH YOUR
ADMINISTERING PUNISHMENT,
KEEP YOUR VOICE LOW AND CALM
AND RESPECTFUL.
MODEL THE KIND OF RESPECT
YOU WANT TO GET BACK FROM
YOUR CHILD.
Kristi: I JUST FAILED
THAT TEST THIS MORNING.
STRATEGY NUMBER TWO.
AND USE SOME QUESTIONS.
AND NOT QUESTIONS LIKE --
YOU TRY TO AVOID ANY
QUESTION THAT HAS WHY AND
YOU IN THE SAME SENTENCE.
BUT QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T
ASKING PERMISSION, BUT
THEY'RE ASKING ME, AS A
STRONG-WILLED KID, THINK
ABOUT THIS.
I SAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND
THIS HOMEWORK.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HELP
YOU.
EX THASK THE QUESTION.
BECAUSE I CAN SAY, MAYBE FOR
THIS ONE THING, I'LL DO IT.
IF YOU JUST SAY, MOVE OVER,
I'LL HELP YOU, I'M ALREADY
DEFENSIVE.
Kristi: THAT'S GOOD.@z
CAN YOU CONTINUE THEúmúm
INTERVIEW IN THE GREENúm
ROOM.
THEY'RE TELLING ME TO WRAP,@Z
BUT I WANT SOME NOTES.
BY THE WAY, I JUST FAILED
THE ENTIRE TEST.
I DID ALL OF THE THINGS I
WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO.
CYNTHIA'S BOOK HAS MANY MORE
STRATEGIES IN BRINGING OUT
THE BEST IN OUR
STRONG-WILLED CHILD.
IT IS CALLED "YOU CANT MAKE
ME, BUT I CAN BE
PERSUADED."
AS PEOPLE KNOW, WHEN I'VE
GOT A GOOD BOOK, I TEND TO
STEAL IT.
THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OFúÑúm
THEM.
CYNTHIA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU.
Kristi: COMING UP, WE
HAVE A STORY ABOUT A MAN WHO
LOST EVERYTHING HE OWNED,
BUT SEE HOW THREE GIFTS GAVE
HIM HIS LIFE BACK.
Pat: MAN IN MANY THIRD
WORLD COUNTRIES, A LITTLE
BIT GOES A LONG WAY TO
HELP.
IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH TO
SUPPORT AN ENTIRE FAMILY.
BUT FOR ONE MAN IN INDIA,
ALL IT TOOK WAS A FISHING
NET, A BICYCLE, AND AN ICE
BOX.
Reporter: WHEN FLOODS
HIT THE EAST COAST OF INDIA,
DILI'S FISHING NETS WASHED
AWAY, LEAVING HIM WITH NO
WAY TO MAKE A LIVING OR FEED
HIS FAMILY.
IT WAS HORRIBLE TO SEE
OUR ENTIRE VILLAGE SUBMERGED
UNDER WATER.
WE LOST EVERYTHING WE
OWNED.
MY FAMILY WAS STARVING.
Reporter: CBN RESPONDED
QUICKLY TO THE DISASTER WITH
RELIEF APPLIES, FOOD, AND
SLEEPING BAGS.
WHEN WE LOST EVERYTHING,
YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT
HELPED US.
YOU GAVE US WHAT WE NEEDED
TO SURVIVE.
SURVIVE.
Reporter: WHAT WE GAVE
HIM NEXT REALLY PUT A SMILE
ON HIS DAUGHTER'S FACE.
I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN YOU
GAVE MY FATHER A BRAND NEW
FISHING NET, A BICYCLE TO
BRING HIS FISH TO THE
MARKET, AND AN ICE BOX TO
KEEP THE FISH FRESH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
HELPING US.
YOU GAVE ME EXACTLY WHAT I
NEEDED TO SUPPORT MY
FAMILY.
YOU HAVE RESTORED MY LIFE.
Pat: YOU HAVE RESTORED
MY LIFE.
FOLKS, A FEW DOLLARS MAKES
SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
BY THE WAY, WE'VE GOT
SOMETHING WE WANT TO GIVE
YOU.
THESE ARE D.V.D.s, "LIFE
BEYOND THEGRAPHY, THE
GRAVE," AND THESE ARE PEOPLE
WHO DIED AND CAME BACK TO
TELL US.
WE'LL GIVE YOU THESE IF YOU
JOIN "THE 700 CLUB," 65
CENTS A DAY, $20.
WE'LL GIVE YOU EXTRA COPIES
AND DO ALL KINDS OF GOOD
STUFF.
I THINK YOU'LL ENJOY IT.
WELL, TOMORROW, WE'VE GOT
THE BIRTH ORDER GUY.
BEST-SELLING AUTHOR KEVIN
LEMAN.
HE IS GOING TO, WELL, BE
WITH US, AND YOU'LL ENJOY
HIS INTRIGUING CONCEPTS
ABOUT HOW TO RAISE CHILDREN
OR HOW HE GOT RAISED, OR
WHATEVER.
BUT HE'LL BE A LOT OF FUN.
TODAY, WE LEAVE YOU WITH
THESE WORDS FROM PROVERBS
22: "TRAIN UP A CHILD IN THE
WAY HE SHOULD GO.
AND WHEN HE IS OLD, HE WILL
NOT DEPART FROM IT."
WORDS OF WISDOM FROM 3,000
YEARS AGO.
THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE
GOT.
I APPRECIATE KRISTI AND ALL
OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WITH
US.
WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BYE-BYE.
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