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The 700 Club - February 6, 2013

Author and speaker Cynthia Tobias shares insights on dealing with the strong-willed child. Plus, get to know the story behind The Discovery Channel's Bobby Goodson, the face of Swamp Loggers. Read Transcript


Lee: COMING UP,

MIRACLES FROM THE MUSLIM

WORLD.

AS SOON AS I LOOKED OVER,

I HAD KNOWN THAT JESUS WAS

THE CHRIST, THE SACRIFICE,

THE SON OF GOD.

Lee: PLUS WORDS OF

WISDOM FROM SWAMP LOGGERS

BOBBY.

FIND A NICHE IN LIFE AND

YOU'LL MAKE A LIVING.

Lee: AND SURVIVAL GUIDE

FOR RAISING A REBELLIOUS

CHILD.

WE'LL TELL YOU THE DOs AND

DON'Ts ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

*

Pat: HEY, WELCOME TO

THIS EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB."

YOU WANT TO SET YOUR

RECORDER, BY THE WAY.

WE'VE GOT A STORY ABOUT

JESUS APPEARING TO MUSLIMS

IN THE ARABIC WORLD, ALL

OVER THE MIDDLE EAST.

FASCINATING STORY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

AND KRISTI, WHO MAY HAVE

GROWN UP AS A REBELLIOUS

CHILD, IS GOING TO TELL YOU

HOW TO HANDLE ONE.

OR WERE YOU A SWEET,

OBEDIENT CHILD?

Kristi: OF COURSE.

CAN'T YOU TELL.

Pat: I CAN TELL.

IT IS GOING TO BE FUN.

ANYHOW, JUST A COUPLE OF

YEARS AGO, THE TEA PARTY WAS

THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE IN

POLITICS.

NOW SOME POLITICAL EXPERTS

ARE ASKING: IS THE TEA PARTY

DEAD?

Kristi: WELL, PAT, SOME

POLITICIANS SAY YES, AND

MAYBE SOME SAY THE SAME

THING IN THE MEDIA, BUT THE

TEA PARTY ITSELF PLANS TO

HAVE THE FINAL WORD.

DAVID BRODY HAS THE WORD.

Reporter: THE

PREDICTIONS BEGAN SOON AFTER

ELECTION NIGHT, 2012.

CNN DECLARED THE END OF THE

TEA PARTY MOVEMENT, AND THE

"WASHINGTON POST" EXCLAIMED

HOW THE MOVEMENT WILL SOON

BE NOTHING MORE THAN A

BLIP.

MITT ROMNEY'S LOSS, COMBINED

WITH A FEW TEA PARTY

STUMBLES, LED TO THE

CONCEPTION THAT IT IS A

BUNCH OF ULTRA CONSERVATIVES

THAT COST REPUBLICANS

PRECIOUS SEATS.

IN THE CONGRESSIONAL

ESTABLISHMENT, THEY'RE SEEN

AS A NUISANCE THAT WON'T

COMPROMISE.

THOSE ARE THE SAME

CHUCKLEHEADS THAT HAVE

SCREWED THIS PLACE UP.

Reporter: AND NOW KARL

ROVE COULD BE LOOKING TO PUT

A NAIL IN THE COFFIN, TOO.

HIS NEW POLITICAL ACTION

COMMITTEE, "THE CONSERVATIVE

VICTORY PROGRAM" WILL BE

BACKING CANDIDATES IN 2014.

THE TEA PARTY READS THE WORD

"ELECTABLE," AS CODE FOR

SWISHY, MODERATE

REPUBLICANS, AND THAT HAS

THEM SEEING RED.

HERE IS A PROJECT FUNDED

BY CRONY CAPITOLISTS AND

FUNDED

BY CORPORATEISTS, WHO

ARE NOT CONSERVATIVES.

Reporter: BUT REPORTS

HAVE BEEN GREATLY

EXAGGERATED.

WHILE POLLS SHOW TEA PARTY

DROPPING FROM 25% IN 2010,

TO 8% TODAY.

TED CRUZ AND ED FISHER JOIN

A CONSERVATIVE GROUP.

IN THE HOUSE, MORE THAN 50

TEA PARTY MEMBERS MAKE UP A

STRONG VOTING BLOCK.

ULTIMATELY TEA PARTY LEADERS

SAY THE KEY TO A SUSTAINABLE

NATIONAL MOVEMENT IS

ELECTING HOUSE AND SENATE

CANDIDATES WHO ARE READY FOR

PRIME TIME.

WE REQUIRE OUR CANDIDATES

FOR ENDORSEMENT TO HAVE A

SPECIFIC DREAM IN THEIR

CAMPAIGN.

Reporter: JULIE TURNER

IS PRESIDENT OF THE TEXAS

PATRIOTS.

SHE SAYS THE WAY TO KEEP THE

MOVEMENT ON TRACK IS BY

GROOMING CANDIDATES ON THE

LOCAL LEVEL AND GROWING A

BENCH OF ALL STARS.

IT BECOME CLEAR WHAT WE

NEEDED TO DO WAS TO BUILD

KIND OF A FARM TEAM.

START AT THE EASIEST

ELECTIONS, AND BRING PEOPLE

INTO OUR WEEKLY MEETINGS.

Reporter: HERE IN SAN

ANTONIO, THE ALAMO HAS COME

TO REPRESENT THE TEA PARTY

IN FREEDOM.

AND SO WHEN EVERYBODY TALKS

ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE TEA

PARTY IS DEAD, HERE IN

TEXAS, IT IS ANYTHING BUT.

THE TEA PARTY KEPT A SERIOUS

PRESENCE IN THE STATE

CAPITAL, CONVINCING

LAWMAKERS TO REIN IN

SPENDING.

IN PLACES LIKE BEAUMONT AND

MANY OTHER CITIES, THEY MEET

EACH WEEK TO PLOT STRATEGY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD

LIKE TO SEE US GIVE UP, BUT

THAT IS NOT GOING TO

HAPPEN.

Reporter: FOR PEOPLE

WHO THINK THE TEA PARTY IS

DEAD, WHAT'S YOUR MESSAGE TO

THEM?

THE TEA PARTY IS NOT

DEAD.

I THINK THEY'RE RESTING.

Reporter: MUCH LIKE

THEIR G.O.P. COUNTERPARTS,

IMAGE IS A PROBLEM.

SINCE THE MEDIA HAS TURNED

THE PARTY INTO A FOUR-LETTER

WORD, CONSERVATIVE BLOGGER'S

SUGGEST A FOUR PART

STRATEGY, REBRAND, RECRUIT,

REPLAN, AND REENGAGE.

THIS WILL ALWAYS HAPPEN.

OUR NAME WILL CHANGE, THE

FACES WILL CHANGE; THE

PRINCIPLES WILL NOT.

Reporter: DAVID BRODY,

CBN NEWS, IN BEAUMONT,

TEXAS.

Pat: THE TEA PARTY HAS

BEEN DEMONIZED BECAUSE THEY

WERE POWERFUL.

AND THE TEA PARTY IS TRYING

TO GET THE GOVERNMENT TO CUT

BACK ON ITS MASSIVE

DEFICITS.

THE PRESIDENT AND THE

DEMOCRATS HAVE DIFFERENT

IDEAS ON HOW TO DO THAT.

LEE WEBB HAS MORE.

Lee: PRESIDENT OBAMA IS

TRYING TO AVOID AUTOMATIC

SPENDING CUTS THAT ARE SET

TO GO INTO EFFECT ON MARCH

1st UNLESS THE DEFICIT IS

CUT.

THE CUTS WOULD HIT THE

MILITARY AND DOMESTIC

PROGRAMS.

THE PRESIDENT WANTS CONGRESS

TO COME UP WITH A SHORT-TERM

MEASURE TO REDUCE THE

DEFICIT.

HIS PLAN INCLUDES SOME

SHORT-TERM SPENDING CUTS,

ALONG WITH HIGHER TAXES.

BUT REPUBLICANS ARE AGAINST

ANY NEW TAXES.

THE PRESIDENT'S PROPOSAL

CALM COMES AS THE

CONGRESSIONAL OFFICE

PREDICTS THAT PROGRAMS WILL

KEEP DRIVING THE DEFICIT

HIGHER, AND SEVEN MILLION

AMERICANS WILL LOSE THEIR

HEALTH CARE UNDER OBAMACARE.

Pat: LIKE IT OR NOT,

THE REPUBLICANS ARE GUILTY.

I THINK IT IS TIME WE HAVE A

MMIA CULPA.

THEY HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR

THIS OUTRAGEOUS SPENDING.

THEY HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR

THE VARIOUS PORK-BARREL

PROJECTS.

WELL, THE MARKED ITEMS ON

THE BUDGET THAT THEY THINK

ARE SPECIAL TO THEM.

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT GEORGE

BUSH, HE DID A LOT OF GOOD

STUFF, BUT HE WAS A

BIG-SPENDING LIBERAL.

SO WE STAR STARTED THESE

HUGE DEFICITS UNDER HIS

ADMINISTRATION, AND IT HAS

BEEN ACCELERATED UNDER

OBAMA.

AND SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE

ON A BIPARTISAN BASIS TO SAY

WE CAN'T AFFORD IT ANY

LONGER.

AND IT IS TIME TO SAY NO.

SO IT ISN'T DEMOCRAT,

REPUBLICAN.

IT IS AMERICAN.

IT IS HOW DO WE SAVE THIS

GREAT LAND FOR OUR CHILDREN

AND GRANDCHILDREN.

AND THE C.B.O. IS SUPPOSED

TO BE NON-PARTISAN.

AND THEY'RE SOUNDING AN

ALARM.

LET'S LISTEN TO THEM.

Lee: PAT, BRITISH

LAWMAKERS VOTED OVERWHELMING

IN FAVOR OF A BILL TO

LEGALIZE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

PRIME MINISTER DAVID CAMERON

CHAMPIONED THAT LEGISLATION,

BUT SOME OF HIS STRONGEST

OPPOSITION CAME FROM HIS OWN

PARTY.

THE YAY YEAS TO THE

LEFT.

THE YEAS HAVE IT.

Reporter: IT IS THE

FIRST OF SEVERAL VOTES

REQUIRED FOR THE U.K.'S

MARRIAGE BILL.

IF IT BECOMES LAW, THE

LEGISLATION WOULD ALLOW

SAME-SEX COUPLES TO MARRY IN

BOTH CIVIL AND RELIGIOUS

CEREMONIES, AS LONG AS THE

RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION

ACCEPTS.

TODAY IT WAS DO WE ACCEPT

THE GAY PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO

CALL THE UNION A MARRIAGE.

MARRIAGE IS A GREAT

INSTITUTION, AND IT SHOULD

BE THERE FOR THOSE WHO ARE

GAY AND THOSE WHO ARE NOT.

Reporter: THE VOTE WENT

CAMERON'S WAY, BUT IT COST

HIM POPULARITY IN HIS OWN

PARTY.

MORE THAN HALF OF HIS 303

CONSERVATIVE LAWMAKERS VOTED

AGAINST THE BILL.

FOR MANY PEOPLE, YES, IT

IS A NON-ISSUE.

BUT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE,

THEY FEEL THIS IS MAYBE THE

STRAW THAT HAS BROKEN THE

CAMEL'S BACK.

WHO ARE WE, WHO IS THIS

GOVERNMENT, WHO IS THIS

COUNTRY TO DETERMINE AND

IMPOSE AND NATIONALIZE A NEW

DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE,

WHICH WILL HAVE HUGE

IMPLICATIONS.

I THINK WHEN PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND THE FULL

RAMIFICATION OF IT, THEY

WILL BE CARED.

Reporter: AND SOME ARE

CONCERNED THAT THE ISSUE

WILL COST THE PARTY IN THE

NEXT GENERAL ELECTION.

IF PASSED, THE BILL WILL

COME INTO EFFECT IN 2015,

RIGHT AHEAD OF THAT

ELECTION.

CHARLENE ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.

Lee: PAT, WHAT DO YOU

THINK OF THIS?

Pat: I THINK IT IS ONE

MORE STEP DOWN THE SLIPPERY

SLOPE.

YOU KNOW, THE BIBLE IS VERY

CLEAR ABOUT WHAT IS PER

MISSABLE, AND WHAT IS NOT.

AND THE CHURCH HAS BEEN THE

HARBINGER OF MARRIAGE.

THIS IS A HOLY SACRAMENT,

PERFORMED IN A CHURCH.

NOW, CIVIL UNIONS ARE UNIONS

THAT ARE BLESSED BY THE

STATE, BY A JUSTICE OF THE

PEACE, AND BY SOME CIVIL

OFFICIAL.

AND THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT MARRIAGE IS SOMETHING

THAT IS ORDAINED OF GOD, AND

THE BIBLE SAYS FOR THIS

CAUSE SHALL A MAN LEAVE HIS

MOTHER AND FATHER AND CLEVE

TO HIS WIFE AND THE TWO

SHALL BE ONE FLESH.

AND IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT WHAT

IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THOSE

WHO ENGAGE IN OTHER FORMS OF

SEXUAL ACTIVITY.

IT ISN'T THAT PEOPLE ARE

POINTING FINGERS, OR TRYING

TO PROHIBIT SOMEBODY FROM

ENJOYING ALL OF THE BENEFITS

OF THE SOCIETY.

BUT THIS IS LIKE A

SACRAMENT.

IT IS LIKE THE GOVERNMENT IS

GOING TO SAY WHO IS GOING TO

TAKE COMMUNION IN THE

CATHOLIC CHURCH.

WHO IS GOING TO BE ALLOWED

TO GO TO SEMINARY AND BE A

PRIEST.

ARE WE GOING TO HAVE A VOTE

IN PARLIAMENT TO DETERMINE

WHO IS QUALIFIED?

DO WE WANT THAT IN AMERICA?

AND THE ANSWER, OF COURSE,

IS NO.

WELL, WE JUST KEEP EXTENDING

THESE CIVIL LIBERTIES.

WHY?

WHAT'S GOING ON?

WELL, IT'S AN ASSAULT ON

TRADITIONAL JUDEO CHRISTIAN

MORALITY THAT HAS BEEN GOING

ON FOR SOMETIME.

IT HAS TO DO WITH

PROCREATION.

IT HAS TO DO WITH SEXUAL

MORALS.

IT HAS TO DO WITH THE

NURTURE OF CHILDREN, AND THE

ABILITY OF CHILDREN TO

LIVE.

AND THIS IS THE BIG

BATTLEGROUND.

AND WE, APPARENTLY, ARE

FALLING DOWN BEFORE THE

FORCES THAT ARE GOING TO

CHANGE THIS SOCIETY.

AND WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT

THAT DOES TO US DOWN THE

ROAD.

LEE?

Lee: PAT, A NEWLY

DISCLOSED DOCUMENT EXPOSES

HOW MUCH LETHAL FORCE THE

ADMINISTRATION CAN AND WILL

USE AGAINST TERRORISTS.

EVEN IF THEY'RE AMERICAN

CITIZENS.

THE DOCUMENT FROM THE

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS

AMERICAN CITIZENS TIED TO

al-QAEDA CAN BE KILLED IF,

QUOTE,"AN INFORM HIGH-LEVEL

OFFICIAL BELIEVES THE TARGET

POSSESS AN IMMINENT THREAT.

THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT

REQUIRED TO HAVE CLEAR

EVIDENCE."

EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS

CORPS QUESTIONED THE

ADMINISTRATION ON THE

APPARENT DOUBLE STANDARD.

HOW IS DROPPING A BOMB ON

AN AMERICAN CITIZEN WITHOUT

ANY JUDICIAL REVIEW OR

TRIAL, NOT RAISE THE MORE

HUMAN RIGHTS QUESTIONS THAN

SOMETHING LIKE WATERBOARD.

THE PRESIDENT UNDERSTANDS

THE GRAVITY OF THESE

ISSUES.

THAT IS WHY HE IS COMMITTED

TO TAKING VERY SERIOUSLY HIS

RESPONSIBILITIES IN THIS.

Lee: CARNEY WENT ON TO

SAY THAT TARGETED STRIKES

ARE LEGAL, ETHICAL, AND

WISE, AND HE ADDED THEY'RE

NECESSARY TO PREVENT FUTURE

ATTACKS ON THE U.S.

A MAGNITUDE 8 EARTHQUAKE

STRUCK THE SOUTH PACIFIC,

NORTH OF AUSTRALIA.

IT REACHED UP TO FIVE FEET,

THE TSUNAMI.

IT DAMAGED DOZENS OF HOMES

AND MISSING PEOPLE AND

DEAD.

IT LIES ON THE SO-CALLED

RING OF FIRE, AN ARC OF

EARTHQUAKES.

IRAN'S PRESIDENT,

AHMADINEJAD IS IN CAIRO.

THE TWO COUNTRIES HAVE NOT

HAD TIES SINCE THE ISLAMIC

REVOLUTION IN IRAN IN 1979.

AHMADINEJAD TALKED WITH

EGYPT'S PRESIDENT MOHAMMED

MORSI.

SOME SUNNI MUSLIMS WEREN'T

HAPPY ABOUT THE VISIT.

THEY HAVE SUPPORTED SEREN

SYRIAN DICTATOR ASSAD.

AHMADINEJAD WAS FORCED TO

FLEE AFTER SOMEONE TOOK OFF

THEIR SHOES AND THREW THEM

AT HIM.

Pat: SOONER OR LATER

THERE IS GOING TO BE A

STRUGGLE.

WE'LL FIND THAT STRUGGLE

TAKING PLACE IN THE MIDDLE

EAST BETWEEN THE SUNNIS AND

THE SHIAS.

IT CAN BE VERY VIOLENT AND

VERY NASTY.

OF COURSE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT

SYRIA, THE ASSAD FAMILY ARE

ALAWITE, WHICH IS A SMALL

SECT.

IT ISN'T EVEN ONE OF THE

MAIN BRANCHES, BUT THEY'VE

HELD POWER IN SEA SYRIA FOR

MANY, MANY YEARS.

THAT IS COMING, AND IT IS

GOING TO GET MORE INTENSE.

KRISTI.

Kristi: PAT, PIME GOING

TO SWITCH GEARS A LITTLE BIT

AND ASK YOU A QUESTION: YOU

HAVE FOUR CHILDREN, 14

GRANDCHILDREN?

Pat: YES.

Kristi: WOULD YOU

CLASSIFY ANY OF THEM AS

BEING STRONG-WILLED?

Pat: I HOPE THEY'RE ALL

STRONG WILLED.

Kristi: CHECK THIS OUT

IN OUR NEXT STORY: THEY ARE

WILD, THEY ARE WONDERFUL,

AND SOMETIMES THEY CAN JUST

DRIVE YOU CRAZY.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

THE STRONG WILLED KID.

AND WE HAVE HELP FOR THE

PARENTS.

AND MORE AND MORE MUSLIMS

ARE COMING TO CHRIST THROUGH

DREAMS AND VISIONS.

Pat: THE BIBLE TELLS US

THAT IN THE LATTER DAY, I'M

GOING TO POUR OUT MY SPIRIT

ON ALL FLESH.

AND YOUR YOUNG MEN WILL SEE

VISIONS, AND YOUR OLD MEN

WILL DREAM DREAMS.

WELL, DREAMING DREAMS AND

SEEING VISIONS OF JESUS,

IT'S HAPPENING TODAY.

NOT ONLY IN CHRISTIAN

COUNTRIES, BUT ACROSS THE

MUSLIM WORLD.

THE DESCENDENTS OF THE

PROPHET ABRAHAM, THE

PATRIARCH, MEN AND WOMEN ARE

COMING TO FAITH IN JESUS

CHRIST BECAUSE JESUS HIMSELF

HAS APPEARED TO THEM.

CHRIS MITCHELL BRINGS US

THIS AMAZING STORY.

HEY, GUYS, MY NAME IS

HAZEM.

Reporter: HAZEM HOSTS A

TV PROGRAM FOR MUSLIMS

CALLED "REFLECTIONS."

HE SAYS HE HEARS FROM

MUSLIMS ALL OF THE TIME THAT

TELL HIM THEY HAVE HAD A

DREAM OF JESUS CHRIST THAT

CHANGECHANGED THEIR LIVES.

I HAD ONE LADY WRITE ME

AND SAID SHE HAD A VISION OF

JESUS CHRIST, AND I TURNED

ON THE TELEVISION, AND THERE

YOU ARE.

HE SAID YOUR WORDS ARE SO

PEACEFUL, AND I FELL

ASLEEP.

AND SHE SAID, I SAW THE

LORD.

AND HE POINTED, AND POINTED

TO THE MAN WHO I KNEW IN THE

DREAM WAS ABRAHAM.

AND HE WAS SACRIFICING

ISAAC.

AND SHE SAID AS SOON AS I

LOOKED OVER, I HAD KNOWN

THAT JESUS WAS THE CHRIST,

THE SACRIFICE.

Reporter: FROM

INDONESIA TO MOROCCO, MUSLIM

MEN AND WOMEN ARE TURNING TO

FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST IN

UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS.

FOR MANY, THEIR CONVERSIONS

ARE NOT SIMPLY THE RESULT OF

MISSIONARIES OR PREACHERS

SHARING THE GOSPEL WITH

THEM.

INSTEAD, THEY'RE COMING TO

CHRIST BECAUSE THEY HAD

DREAMS AND VISIONS, WHERE

JESUS THEMSELVES APPEARS TO

THEM.

ALI ALSO MET JESUS IN A

DREAM WHILE ON HIS WAY TO

THE MEXICO FOR A PRIMAGE

CALLED THE HAJ.

I WAS GOING THERE TO

FULFILL THE REQUIREMENTS IN

ISLAM.

Reporter: HIS

EXPERIENCE IN MECCA IS

DRAMATIZED IN THIS D.V.D.

CALLED "MORE THAN DREAMS."

BUT THAT NIGHT I SAW

JESUS IN A DREAM.

FIRST JESUS TOUCHED MY

FOREHEAD WITH HIS FINGER.

AND AFTER TOUCHING ME, HE

SAID, YOU BELONG TO ME.

AND THEN HE TOUCHED ME ABOVE

MY HEART.

YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED, FOLLOW

ME.

YOU BELONG TO ME, HE SAID.

I DECIDED, I'M NOT GOING TO

FINISH THE HAJ.

WHATEVER IT TAKES, I'M GOING

TO FOLLOW THAT VOICE.

Reporter: THE D.V.D.

TELLS OF OTHER MUSLIMS WHO

CAME TO FAITH IN JESUS

THROUGH A DREAM OR VISION.

WE'RE SEEING THAT ALL

AROUND.

WE'RE HEARING FROM PEOPLE

WHO NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT

JESUS AS SAVIOR, AND THEY'RE

CONTENT MUSLIMS, AND THEY'RE

HAVING DREAMS OVER AND

OVER.

Reporter: TOM DOYLE

SERVES IN e3 MINISTEMINISTRIES.

AND THEY WROTE THE BOOK, "IS

JESUS AWAKENING THE MUSLIM

WORLD?"

PEOPLE ARE SEEKING.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO

GO.

MAYBE THERE IS NO MISSIONARY

IN THE VILLAGE.

Reporter: HIS WOMAN

COMES FROM AN ASIAN

COUNTRY.

HER IDENTITY IS HIDDEN FOR

SECURITY REASONS.

IN A CHURCH, IF YOU ASK

HOW MANY PEOPLE CAME TO

CHRIST.

80% WILL SAY THEY SAW HIM IN

A DREAM.

Reporter: A CHRISTIAN

FRIEND CHALLENGED THIS WOMAN

TO ASK GOD TO SPEAK TO HER

PERSONALLY.

I SO I DECIDED TO ASK

HIM, AND SO I DID.

AND THE NEXT DAY I SAW A

DREAM, AND I SAW IN MY

DREAM -- I SAW JESUS WALK ON

A BRIDGE.

I DECIDED TO COME TO HIM.

Reporter: DOYLE SAYS

THE DREAM OR VISION IS

USUALLY THE START, NOT THE

END, OF A MUSLIM'S

CONVERSION.

NOBODY GOES TO SLEEP,

CHRIS, A MUSLIM AND WAKES UP

AND A CHRISTIAN, BUT IT

KNOCKS DOWN THE FALSE

BARRIERS IN ISLAM, THAT WE

WORSHIP THREE GODS AND THAT

THE BIBLE IS CORRUPTED.

Reporter: THEY SAY THIS

COULD BE SEEN AS A SPIRITUAL

EARTHQUAKE.

IT IS BEING TEED UP

POLITICALLY IN ISLAM, AND

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MOVING

EVEN MORE.

HEARTS ARE CHANGING,

GOVERNMENTS FOUNDATIONS ARE

CHANGING, AND JESUS IS THE

ANSWER.

THEY CAN COME IN AND FILL

THAT NEED.

Reporter: MANY VETERAN

MISSIONARIES SAY THESE

DREAMS AND VISIONS, COMBINED

WITH SATELLITE TELEVISION,

ARE REACHING MUSLIMS IN

UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS.

THEY SAY MORE MUSLIMS ARE

COMING TO JESUS CHRIST THAN

IN ANY OTHER TIME OF THE

1400 YEAR HISTORY OF ISLAM.

THE DOYLES SAY BELIEVERS IN

THE WEST CAN JOIN THIS

SPIRITUAL REVOLUTION.

I THINK THE HARVEST IS

PLENTIFUL, BUT THE WORKERS

ARE FEW.

WE ARE COMMITTED, ALL OF US

AS BELIEVERS, WE HAVE GOT TO

REACH THOSE WITH THE GOSPEL

OF CHRIST.

NOT EVERYBODY IS GOING TO

GO TO THE MIDDLE EAST, BUT

THEY CAN PRAY.

AND NO LEADER, NO

GOVERNMENT, CAN BLOCK

INTERCESSION AROUND THE

WORLD.

SO WE NEED TO PRAY AS

BELIEVERS, THAT GOD WOULD

CONTINUE TO PUSH THE GOSPEL

OUT TO THE ENDS OF THE

EARTH.

Reporter: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

Pat: MORE THAN DREAMS.

WE HAVE BEEN RECORDING

INSTANCES IN SAUDI ARABIA,

IN EGYPT, IN THE NORTH

AFRICAN COUNTRIES, IN IRAQ,

IN IRAN, ALL

OVER THAT AREA,

WITHOUT ANY INTERVENTION

FROM HUMAN

BEINGS.

JESUS HIMSELF IS APPEARING

TO PEOPLE.

BUT THEY'RE SINCERE.

THEY'RE HONEST.

THEY REALLY ARE SEEKING

GOD.

THEY HAVE A DEDICATION THAT

PUTS MANY CHRISTIANS TO

SHAME.

AND GOD IS LOOKING AT THEIR

HEART AND SAYING, YOU NEED

TO KNOW.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE

TRUTH.

YOU'RE ASKING FOR WISDOM.

AND I'M GOING TO GIVE IT TO

YOU.

WE APPLAUD IT.

WE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR IT

TO HAPPEN.

KRISTI?

Kristi: COMING UP,

WE'VE GOT YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

IAN WANTS TO KNOW, "IS IT

POSSIBLE FOR DEMONS TO HAVE

AN OPEN DOOR INTO MY LIFE

BECAUSE OF SOMETHING IN MY

HOME I DON'T KNOW ABOUT?"

WE'RE GOING TO ANSWER HIS

QUESTION AND SO MUCH MORE

WHEN WE BRING IT ON.

PLUS, THE STAR OF SWAMP

BLOGGERS.

BOBBY.

YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE A SIDE

OF HIM YOU MAY NEVER SEE ON

HIS TV SHOW.

SO WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T GO

AWAY.

Kristi: ALL RIGHT.

IT'S TIME FOR "BRING IT

ON."

SO WE'RE GOING TO THROW ALL

OF THE HARD QUESTIONS TO

PAT.

ARE YOU READY?

Pat: LET'S GO FOR IT.

Kristi: AARON SAYS, "IS

IT POSSIBLE FOR DEMONS TO

HAVE AN OPEN DOOR IN MY LIFE

BECAUSE OF SOMETHING IN MY

HOUSE THAT I DON'T KNOW

ABOUT?"

Pat: AARON, IT IS

TRUE.

FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER

THERE ARE ITEMS THAT HAVE

BEEN DEDICATED TO DEMONIC

SPIRITS.

WHETHER IT IS JEWELRY,

WHETHER THEY ARE STATUES,

WHETHER THEY ARE THINGS

INVOLVED IN SOME SORT OF

WORSHIP -- YOU NEVER KNOW.

PEOPLE GO OVERSEAS AND THEY

SAY, ISN'T THIS LOVELY AND

ISN'T THIS PART OF THE

ANCIENT CIVILIZATION, AND

THEY BRING IT HOME AND PUT

IT INTO THEIR HOUSE, AND

DON'T REALIZE THEY HAVE

OPENED THE DOOR TO SOME KIND

OF DEMONIC PRESENCE.

SO THE ANSWER IS YES.

I WOULD CAUTION PEOPLE ABOUT

HAVING THINGS IN YOUR HOME

THAT HAVE ANY CONNECTION TO

THE OCCULT BECAUSE, YES, IT

WILL BE AN OPEN DOOR INTO

DEMONIC ACTIVITY.

Kristi: CANDY WRITES

AND SAYS, "I HAVE A QUESTION

ABOUT THE LIABL BIBLE VERSE

THAT SAY, GIVE US TODAY OUR

DAILY BREAD.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

I THINK IT IS BECAUSE WE

WANT OUR SPIRIT TO BE FED.

MY HUSBAND SAYS IT IS

EVERYTHING WE NEED, SUCH AS

FOOD.

HELP US OUT, PAT."

Pat: THAT'S THE LORD'S

PRAYER, AND IT SAYS, YOUR

KINGDOM COME, YOUR WILL BE

DONE, ON EARTHS IT IS IN

HEAVEN.

SO WE'RE PRAYING FOR AN

EXTENSION OF GOD'S HEAVEN.

AND THE NEXT PART SAYS, GIVE

US WHAT WE NEED TO SUSTAIN

US.

IT CAN BE SPIRITUALLY, BUT

WE NEED FOOD.

IT IS A SLANG TERM FOR

MONEY.

WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF

EVERYBODY WAS BROKE AND

STARVING.

YOU WOULDN'T BE EXTENDING

GOD'S KINGDOM IF YOU WERE

MALNOURISHED AND DYING.

SO YOUR HUSBAND IS DYING.

THIS IS EVERYTHING.

IT IS NOT JUST SPIRITUAL.

IT IS ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE,

TO EQUIP US TO BE PART OF

YOUR KINGDOM COMING ON EARTH

AS IT IS IN HEAVEN.

Kristi: ELIZABETH SAYS,

I LOVE THE SHOW, BUT I HAVE

TO WORK WHEN IT AIRS.

MY QUESTION IS THIS, WHEN

YOU'RE PRAYING FOR SOMEONE'S

HEALING, CAN I STILL RECEIVE

IT EVEN THOUGH IT IS A

RECORDED SHOW?"

Pat: I'LL TELL YOU A

STORY.

IT'S A CUTE STORY.

THIS PROGRAM GOES LIVE IN

MOST PLACES, BUT IT IS

RECORDED IN CERTAIN

INSTANCES.

AND WE USED TO RECORD IT TO

HAVE IT ON A DELAY IN OTHER

AREAS.

SO WE SENT TAPES OUT.

SO, OKAY, WE SENT A TAPE

OUT.

WE HAD PRAYER ON THIS

PROGRAM.

AND WE WERE PRAYING, AND THE

LORD BEGAN TO SPEAK ABOUT

THE HEALING OF A KNEE.

AND SO I SAID, THERE IS

SOMEBODY'S KNEE WHO GOT ITS

HEALING, AND I BELIEVE IT IS

THE LEFT KNEE.

THIS TAPE IS GOING OUT, AND

THERE IS A WOMAN WATCHING,

AND SHE LOOKS AT THE SCREEN

AND THE TAPE, AND SHE

DOESN'T KNOW IT IS A TAPE,

AND SHE SAID, NOT THE LEFT

KNEE, DUMMY, IT'S THE

RIGHT.

TO WHICH THE TAPE SAYS TO

HER, NO, IT'S THE RIGHT

KNEE.

TRUE STORY.

AND THEN SHE WAS HEALED.

IT IS AMAZING.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: GOD IS -- I MEAN,

HE LIVES IN ETERNITY.

AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING

IS BEGINNING AND END.

HE IS ALWAYS PRESENT.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IS FOR ALL

ETERNITY.

SO THE ANSWER IS, YES, GOD

WILL DO THINGS ON TAPES THAT

WE COULDN'T BELIEVE.

Kristi: ABSOLUTELY.

WELL, LEE WRITES IN AND AS,

"ARE WE REQUIRED TO GRANT

FORGIVENESS TO THOSE WHO

HAVE NOT REPENTED?"

OH, MY GOODNESS.

Pat: I DON'T KNOW ABOUT

REQUIRED.

BUT IF YOU HARBOR BITTERNESS

FOR SOMEONE, IT WILL EAT YOU

LIKE A CANCER.

WHETHER OR NOT THEY ASKED

FOR FORGIVENESS, YOU OUGHT

TO FORGIVE.

BECAUSE WHY WOULD YOU WANT

BUBBLING INSIDE YOU AN ACID

THAT WILL EAT YOUR STOMACH

AND EAT YOUR BODY.

YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY AND

FREE.

I FORGIVE, LORD, AND PLEASE

FORGIVE ME.

IF THEY ASKED FOR YOUR

FORGIVENESS, THAT'S NICE.

IF THEY HAVEN'T ASKED YOU,

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS

FORGIVE THOSE WHO HAVE

INJURED YOU BECAUSE THEN

YOU'RE FREE.

AND IT'S PRACTICAL, ISN'T

IT?

DO YOU HAVE TO DO IT?

YOU'D BE FOOLISH NOT TO DO

IT.

OKAY.

Kristi: I FORGIVE ALL

OF THE TIME.

Pat: I HAVE SO MANY

THINGS TO FORGIVE FOR SO

MANY INSTANCES.

AND WHEN YOU FINALLY DO, IT

IS A GREAT RELIEF.

Kristi: BETTY WRITES IN

AND SAYS, "I FIND IT EASIER

TO FORGIVE SOMEONE ELSE THAN

MYSELF.

HOW DO I FORGIVE MYSELF?"

THAT'S PROBABLY A QUESTION

EVERYONE ASKS.

Pat: YOU'RE NOT THE

ULTIMATE JUDGE.

YOU'RE PLAYING A ROLE, AND

GOD SAYS HE FORGIVES YOU.

YOU NEED TO READ THE BIBLE

AND SEE WHAT IT SAYS.

AS FAR AS THE EAST IS FROM

THE WEST, THAT'S HOW FAR I'M

GOING TO TAKE THEIR SINS

FROM HIM.

BLESS THOSE WHO FORGIVE ALL

YOUR INIQUITIES AND HEALS

ALL YOUR DISEASES.

REALIZE GOD HAS SET YOU

FREE.

AND WHAT HE WANTS -- THIS IS

IMPORTANT -- HE WANTS YOUR

CONSCIENCE TO BE CLEANSED OF

DEAD WORKS TO SERVE THE

LIVING GOD.

GOD WANTS YOU TO SERVE HIM.

HE WANTS YOU TO BE FREE.

SO CARRYING A BUNCH OF

BAGGAGE, YOU'RE NOT HELPING

HIM OR HELPING ANYBODY

ELSE.

SO LET IT GO AND LET GOD'S

WORD TAKE PRECEDENCE IN YOUR

LIFE.

NOT WHAT YOU IMAGINED, BUT

WHAT GOD'S WORD CLEARLY

SAYS.

Kristi: I LOVE IT!

GOOD JOB.

HIGH-FIVE.

Pat: IS THAT ALL?

Kristi: I'M FINISHED.

Pat: HEY, HAVE YOU SEEN

SOME OF THOSE SHOWS -- MAN,

I LOVE THEM.

THE DUCK DYNASTY AND THE

SWAMP BLOGGERS, AND THE GOLD

RUSH.

Kristi: IS THAT ON THE

COUNTRY CHANNEL OR SOMETHING

LIKE THAT?

I GUESS.

Pat: WHAT CHANNEL?

Kristi: C.M.T.?

Pat: A&E.

DO I WATCH?

OF COURSE I WATCH THEM.

THAT DUCK DYNASTY, I THINK

SOME OF IT WAS FILMED DOWN

HERE.

Kristi: WHAT DO THEY

DO, KILL DUCKS?

WHAT'S THE STORY LINE?

Pat: OF COURSE THEY

KILL DUCKS.

THEY TRAIN THE DUCKS AND GO

OUT AND SHOOT THE DUCKS,

MAYBE FEED THE DUCKS.

IT IS A POPULAR SHOW.

BOBBY GOODSON BECAME A

CELEBRITY DOING WHAT HE DOES

EVERY DAY, THAT'S PICKING UP

LOGS OUT IN THE SWAMP.

THAT'S TOUGH WORK.

HE IS USED TO OVERCOMING ALL

KINDS OF OBSTACLES TO GET

THE JOB DONE.

BUT FOR YEARS, BOBBY FOUGHT

A LOSING BATTLE WITH

HIMSELF.

WATCH THIS.

AN OLD MAN TOLD ME ONE

TIME YEARS AGO, HE SAID,

SON, FIND A NICHE IN LIFE

AND YOU'LL MAKE A LIVING.

Reporter: BOBBY FOUND

HIS NICHE AS A SWAMP

LOGGER.

IN FACT, HE OWNS A

SUCCESSFUL LOGGING COMPANY

IN JACKSONVILLE, NORTH

CAROLINA.

AND HE WAS FEATURED ON SWAMP

LOGGERS.

I STILL DON'T FEEL LIKE

MYSELF AS A STAR.

I FEEL LIKE I'M A PERSON

WITH A JOB AND WE JUST DID

OUR JOB.

IN THE TYPE OF WORK WE DO,

EVERY DAY IS A CHALLENGE.

EVERY DAY IS DIFFERENT.

WE'VE ALWAYS GOT OBSTACLES

TO OVERCOME.

I GUESS WHAT GETS ME OUT OF

BED IS TO COME OUT AND FACE

THE CHALLENGES.

TO DO SOMETHING THAT NOBODY

CAN'T DO OR DON'T WANT TO

DO.

Reporter: BUT BOBBY

WASN'T ALWAYS THE FACE OF A

REALITY TV SHOW.

HE CAME FROM FOUR

GENERATIONS OF LOGGERS.

AS A YOUNG BOY, HE LEARNED

TO PARTY WITH THE OLDER KIDS

HE KNEW.

HE EVEN WENT TO SCHOOL DRUNK

IN THE FIFTH GRADE.

LOOKING BACK OVER MY

LIFE, I COULDN'T REMEMBER A

DAY THAT I WENT WITHOUT

GETTING HIGH OR DRINKING OR

SOME TYPE OF DRUG.

Reporter: BOBBY DATED

PLENTY OF GIRLS.

WHEN HE WAS 14, HE MET

LAURIE, BUT THEIR

RELATIONSHIP WAS VOLATILE

FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

WHEN I GOT MAD, I DIDN'T

KNOW HOW TO HANDLE IT.

IF IT WAS A LITTLE PUSH,

I WOULD PUSH BACK.

IF IT WAS SCREAMING AND

YELLING AND CURSING, I WAS

RIGHT UP IN HIS FACE, TOO.

I MEAN, I KNEW HOW TO PUSH

THE RIGHT BUTTONS.

WHATEVER I THOUGHT WOULD

HURT HER THE WORST, THAT'S

WHAT I WOULD TELL HER.

THE WORST THING THAT

BOBBY EVER SAID TO ME, I

STILL HAVE REMEMBER THE

TIME.

HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID,

I DON'T LOVE YOU ANYMORE.

IT PHYSICALLY MADE ME SICK.

THERE WERE DAYS THAT I COULD

NOT GET OUT OF BED.

Reporter: WHEN BOBBY

AND LAURIE WERE JUST 16

YEARS OLD, THEY HAD A BABY

THEY NAMED JUSTIN.

THEY MARRIED FIVE YEARS

LATER.

BETS WERE PLACED ON HOW LONG

THE MARRIAGE WOULD LAST.

I DIDN'T KNOW IT UNTIL

AFTER THE WEDDING, BUT MY

BROTHER HAD ACTUALLY TAKEN

BETS WITHIN A YEAR I WOULD

KILL HER.

Reporter: BOBBY'S

BROTHER DIDN'T REALIZE HOW

CLOSE HE HAD COME TO

FORETELLING THE FUTURE.

ONE NIGHT BOBBY CAME HOME

DRUNK.

WHEN LAURIE FOUND HIM PASSED

OUT, SHE TRIED TO WAKE HIM.

BOBBY FLEW INTO A RAGE.

HE PICKED ME UP BY MY

THROAT, AND I REMEMBER MY

HEAD SLAMMING UP AGAINST THE

WALL.

THE PHONE RANG, AND I

REMEMBER HIM LETTING ME GO,

AND I FELL ON THE BACK OF

THAT BED, AND IT BROKE IT.

HE ANSWERED THE PHONE LIKE

THERE WAS NOTHING GOING ON.

AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE

SAID, IT'S YOUR DAD.

Reporter: LAURIE CHOKED

HER WAY THROUGH THE

CONVERSATION, AND BOBBY FELL

ASLEEP.

THE NEXT MORNING HE DIDN'T

REMEMBER WHAT HE HAD DONE TO

LAURIE OR TO THEIR HOME.

I REMEMBER DOORS KNOCKED

OFF HINGES, HOLES IN THE

WALLS.

THE WHOLE HOUSE WAS IN

DISARRAY, AND I COULDN'T

REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED.

I MADE UP MY MIND I CANNOT

LIVE LIKE THIS.

I COULD HAVE KILLED LAURIE.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHERE

JUSTIN WAS AT.

I KNEW SOMETHING HAD TO

CHANGE IN MY LIFE OR IT WAS

GOING TO END VERY BADLY.

Reporter: THE FOLLOWING

SUNDAY, BOBBY AND LAURIE

WENT TO CHURCH.

BOBBY PRAYED AND GAVE HIS

LIFE TO JESUS THAT DAY.

I FELT SO GOOD INSIDE

THAT NIGHT, THE DAY I LEFT.

I KNEW GOD WAS GOING TO HELP

ME.

I KNEW THAT.

IMMEDIATELY THE ALCOHOL AND

ALL OF THAT STUFF WAS GONE.

Reporter: AFTER SEEING

THE DRAMATIC CHANGE IN

BOBBY, LAURIE PRAYED TO

SURRENDER HER LIFE TO CHRIST

THE NEXT WEEK IN CHURCH.

ALL I KNEW WHEN I LEFT

THAT NIGHT, I KNEW MY LIFE

WAS DIFFERENT.

I TRULY MEANT BUSINESS THIS

TIME.

NO ONE HAD TO TELL ME YOU'VE

GOT TO STOP DRINKING OR

DOING DRUGS.

I KNEW I WAS GOING TO GIVE

THOSE THINGS UP.

Reporter: BOBBY AND

LAURIE WERE BAPTIZED, AND AS

THEY PUT GOD FIRST IN THEIR

MARRIAGE, THEY LEARNED HOW

TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

I KNEW WE HAD FINALLY DID

SOMETHING RIGHT IN OUR LIFE,

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO LOSE

THAT.

EVERY OPPORTUNITY I HAD TO

COMPLIMENT HER ON HER FOOD,

STUFF I DIDN'T DO WHEN WE

GOT MARRIED.

Reporter: THEY HAVE TWO

CHILDREN, JUSTIN AND

BRITTANY, AND FIVE

GRANDCHILDREN.

BOBBY AND HIS WIFE STILL RUN

THEIR COMPANY.

BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVE

HIS WORK OR THE TV SERIES,

BOBBY AND LAURIE SAY THE

MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT

EVER HAPPENED TO THEM IS

FINDING GOD.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

GOD HAS DONE FOR ME IS

SAVING ME.

OUR CHILDREN ALL LOVE THE

LORD AND OUR GRANDCHILDREN

GO TO CHURCH.

IT IS SOMETHING MONEY CAN'T

GIVE YOU.

JESUS CHRIST IS MY LORD

AND SAVIOR.

I OWE EVERYTHING I HAVE

TODAY, THE MOST IMPORTANT

THING, APART FROM HIM, IS MY

FAMILY.

I JUST CANNOT WAIT TO GET TO

HEAVEN.

I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THE

PERSON THAT DID THAT FOR

ME.

Pat: WHAT A JOY IT IS

TO KNOW THE LORD AND YOU'RE

FREE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS

VIOLENCE.

THE HEART OF MAN IS

DECEITFUL AND DESPERATELY

WICKED, THE BIBLE SAYS.

INSIDE OF US THERE IS A

RAGING STORM.

AND UNTIL THAT IS CONVERTED,

EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN,

HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF

GOD.

HE IS APART FROM GOD.

HE IS WITHOUT GOD.

WITHOUT HOPE IN THE WORLD.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN JESUS

COMES IN AND A

TRANSFORMATION TAKES PLACE.

AND A MARRIAGE IS

TRANSFORMED.

THE CHILDREN ARE

TRANSFORMED.

THE BUSINESS IS

TRANSFORMED.

GOD TRANSFORMS EVERYTHING.

AND THEN GENERATION AFTER

GENERATION, THE BLESSING OF

GOD CONTINUES.

DO YOU WANT THAT BLESSING?

ARE YOU FIGHTING?

IS THERE A RAGE INSIDE OF

YOU?

THAT YOU KNOW AND YOU'RE

SCARED OF, AND IT'S

DANGEROUS.

AND IF IT GETS TRIGGERED

WITH ALCOHOL OR DRUGS, YOU

GO WILD.

AND YOU SAY, I'M SO ASHAMED

AND THEN YOU GO BACK AND DO

IT AGAIN BECAUSE YOU CAN'T

CONTROL IT.

GIVE IT TO THE LORD.

PRAY WITH ME NOW.

LET'S ASK HIM TO TAKE OVER.

PRAY THESE WORDS.

LORD JESUS, IN ME THERE IS

NO GOOD THING.

IN MY HEART THERE IS

WICKEDNESS.

BUT, OH, GOD, I KNOW THAT

YOU LOVE ME SO MUCH THAT YOU

DIED FOR ME, AND THAT YOU

SEE ME AS PERFECT IN YOU.

AND SO, LORD, I COME TO YOU

AND I ASK THAT YOU MAY

PERFECT WHAT YOU HAVE

INTENDED FOR ME.

I SURRENDER TO YOU, LORD.

COME INTO MY HEART.

TAKE OVER.

AND LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME.

THANK YOU, LORD.

IN JESUS' NAME, THANK YOU.

AMEN.

BY THE WAY, IF YOU PRAYED

WITH ME THEN, I WANT TO GIVE

YOU SOMETHING THAT WILL HELP

YOU GET STARTED.

WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF BOOKS

WE WILL SEND YOU ABOUT ALL

KINDS OF INTERESTING

THINGS.

BUT THIS ONE PARTICULARLY.

IT'S A LITTLE PACK OF

SCRIPTURES IN HERE.

60 SOMETHING VERSES OF THE

BIBLE THAT TALKS ABOUT WHAT

HAPPENS WHEN YOU COME TO

JESUS.

AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THIS, AL

WITH A COMPACT DISC, IF YOU

PRAYED WITH ME.

JUST SAY, LOOK, I PRAYED

WITH PAT.

I GAVE MY HEART TO THE LORD,

JESUS CHRIST.

1-800-759-0700.

IT'S A TOLL-FREE NUMBER.

JUST A LITTLE PROGRAM NOTE:

I WAS TRYING TO POSITION

SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTARIES

THAT ARE SHOWING NOW,

BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY OF

THEM.

DISCOVERY CHANNEL IS THE ONE

THAT HAS MOST OF THESE

SHOWS, BUT THIS "DUCK

DYNASTY," I UNDERSTAND IS AN

A&E.

THEY ARE ALL TRYING IT AND

THEY HAVE HUGE AUDIENCES.

"PAWN STARS" IS ONE AND

"GOLD RUSH," ALL OF THESE

SHOWS AND THEY'RE GETTING A

LOT OF AUDIENCE.

MOSTLY ON DISCOVERY, AND

SOME ON A&E.

I WANT TO CORRECT THAT

MISCONCEPTION THAT I SAID

EARLIER.

SO, KRISTI, GOOD THINGS ARE

HAPPENING.

Kristi: THEY ARE, PAT.

STILL TO COME, SOLUTIONS --

PRAISE GOD -- FOR PARENTS OF

STRONG WILLED CHILDREN.

FIND OUT HOW FROM A MOTHER

WHO KNOWS.

WHY?

BECAUSE SHE IS THE MOTHER OF

A STRONG-WILLED CHILD

HERSELF.

Lee: WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

THE PENTAGON IS SET TO

EXTEND BENEFITS TO SAME-SEX

PARTNERS OF MILITARY

PERSONNEL.

LEON PANETTA HAS NOT MADE A

FINAL DECISION ON WHICH

BENEFITS WILL BE INCLUDED.

HERE IS WHAT HE IS

CONSIDERING: ALLOWING

SAME-SEX PARTNERS ACCESS TO

THE ON-BASE COMMISSARY AND

SOME HEALTH AND WELFARE

PROGRAMS.

FULL BENEFITS, LIKE HOUSING

AND MEDICAL BENEFITS, WOULD

REQUIRE THE REPEAL OF THE

DEFENSIVE MARRIAGE ACT.

THE FEDERAL LAW FORBIDS THE

U.S. GOVERNMENT FROM

RECOGNIZING ANY MARRIAGE

OTHER THAN FROM A MAN AND A

WOMAN.

PRESIDENT OBAMA'S FIRST

VISIT TO ISRAEL SINCE TAKING

OFFICE IN 2008.

THE VISIT IS PLANNED FOR

THIS SPRING SOMETIME, BUT

THE WHITE HOUSE HAS NOT

RELEASED THE DATES OR

ITNARY.

HIS LAST VISIT WAS DURING

HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN IN

2008.

THE DECISION IS DRAWING

CRITICISM FROM SOME

PRO-ISRAEL GROUPS, WHO SAYS

THE ADMINISTRATION IS NOT

SUPPORTIVE OF THE U.S.'S

CLOSEST ALLIE IN THE MIDDLE

EAST.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

STAY TUNED, PAT AND KRISTI

WILL BE BACK WITH MORE AFTER

THIS.

Kristi: WELL, IF YOU'RE

THE PARENT OF A

STRONG-WILLED CHILD, YOU

ALREADY KNOW WHAT I'M ABOUT

TO TELL YOU: YOU CAN'T MAKE

YOUR CHILD DO ANYTHING.

I CAN, THOUGH.

TAKE A LOOK.

IS YOUR CHILD DIFFICULT

TO DISCIPLINE?

IMPOSSIBLE TO MOTIVATE?

DRIVING YOU NUTS?

CHANCES ARE YOU'RE THE

PARENT OF A STRONG-WILLED

CHILD.

THESE CHILDREN PRESENT

UNIQUE AND OFTEN FRUSTRATING

CHALLENGES FOR PARENTS.

BUT HELP IS HERE.

CYNTHIA TOBIAS IS AN AUTHOR

, A PARENT, AND AN EXPERT.

SHE SHARES HOW TO CHANNEL

YOUR CHILD'S PASSION AND

DETERMINATION IN A POSITIVE

WAY.

SHE OFFERS HELP FOR

STRONG-WILLED CHILDREN AND

PARENTS WHO LOVE THEM.

Kristi: PLEASE WELCOME

TO "THE 700 CLUB" CYNTHIAúo

TOBIAS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING@ó

HERE.@ó@ó

THANK YOU.

Kristi: I'M GOING TO@í

TRY WITH ALL THAT I HAVE NOT

TO MAKE THIS INTO A PERSONAL

COUNSELLING SESSION FOR

MYSELF.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS@í

INTERVIEW, AND THE STORY

WE'VE ALL HEARD.

THE LITTLE GIRL WAS IN THE

CLASSROOM, AND THE TEACHER

SAID, SIT DOWN, SIT DOWN,

AND THE LITTLE GIRL FINALLY

SAT DOWN AND SAID, I MAY BE

SITTING DOWN, BUT I'M

STANDING UP IN MY HEART.

THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF A

STRONG-WILLED CHILD THAT YOU

ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH.

THAT'S RIGHT.

Kristi: LET'S TALK

ABOUT YOUR PERSONAL

CHALLENGES?

I AM A STRONG-WILLED

CHILD, AND I HAVE A

STRONG-WILLED CHILD, AND MY

MOTHER PRAYED THAT WOULD BE

SO.

I KNOW YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS

LIKE.

Kristi: I DO.

I THINK GOD HAS A STRONG

WILL.

HE JUST WANTS US TO USE IT

IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AS PARENTS OF STRONG-WILLED

KIDS, WE HAVE THIS AMAZING

OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THAT

CHILD CHANGE THE WORLD THE

RIGHT WAY.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT -- I'VE

TALKED TO LITERALLY

THOUSANDS OF STRONG-WILLED

CHILDREN, AND THE BOOK

REFLECTS NOT JUST IT TAKES

ONE TO KNOW ONE, BUT FOR SO

MANY OTHER MAMAS IF YOU CAN@Z

JUST BRING OUT THE BEST IN

US AND GET US GOING IN THE

RIGHT DIRECTION, IT COULD

MAKE A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE.

Kristi: AND I THINK

WHEN PARENTS LABEL THEIR

CHILD AT STRONG-WILLED,

THERE IS A NEGATIVE

PERCEPTION OF THAT, AND IT'S

NOT.

A STRONG-WILLED PERSON IS

GREAT BECAUSE YOU CAN

NAVIGATE THEM AND THEY CAN

DO GREAT THINGS.

ABSOLUTELY.

UNDAUNTED, NOT EASILY

DISCOURAGED.

IF I SAY TO A PARENT, DO YOU

HAVE A STRONG-WILLED CHILD,

AND THEY'LL SAY, OH, NO, HE

IS VERY GOOD.

IT IS NOT A GOOD OR BAD

THING.@í

STRONG-WILLED CAN GO@z

SIDEWAYS PRETTY EASILY, BUT

IT IS SUCH A POSITIVE TRAIT,pÑ

AND IT IS DIFFICULT FOR

PARENTS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE@Z

PRACTICE ON YOU WHEN WE'RE

YOUNGER, RIGHT?

WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE ALL

OF THE RAW TALENT AND

ENERGY.

GOD HAS GIVEN ME THIS STRONG

WILL AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT

TO DO WITH IT.

SO MY PARENTS NEED TO HELP

DIRECT IT.

Kristi: YOU SAID

SOMETHING KEY, CYNTHIA, AND

THAT IS THE PARENTS HAVE TO

DIRECT THAT CHILD.

I'M ONE OF FIVE KIDS.

AND MY PARENTS AND I HAVE

HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS

BECAUSE ALL OF THE FIVE

CHILDREN WERE VERY

DIFFERENT.

I ALWAYS WONDERED, MOM AND

DAD, HOW HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE

TO DEAL WITH EACH OF US.

THEIR ANSWER WAS, THEY

PRAYED.

LORD, YOU CREATED THIS

CHILD.

I CAN'T DO THIS TO THIS

CHILD AND TEACH THIS CHILD

THIS WAY BECAUSE EVERYONE

LEADS DIFFERENTLY.

IS THAT ONE OF THE PATTERNS,

TOO, THAT A STRONG-WILLED

CHILD LEARNS DIFFERENTLY?

EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

BUT YOU'VE GOT THE KEY

THERE, TOO.

WE KNOW THE CREATOR AND

DESIGNER PERSONALLY, AND IT

IS A WONDERFUL ADVANTAGE TO

REACH OUT TO THAT

STRONG-WILLED CHILD AND FIND

THE STRENGTH INSTEAD OF

FOCUSING ON THE WEAKNESS.

BECAUSE IF YOU FOCUS ON WHAT

YOU DON'T LIKE IN ME, THEN

MY REACTION AS A

STRONG-WILLED CHILD IS GOING

TO BE DEFENSIVE AND ANGRY.

WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

HOW CAN WE START WITH

STRENGTHS BUT GET YOU WHERE

YOU NEED TO BE.

THE BOTTOTHETHE BOTTOM LINE

IS STILL THE BOTTOM LINE.

AND HOW YOU TALK TO THE

STRONG-WILLED CHILD CAN MAKE

ALL OF THE DIFFERENCE.

Kristi: CYNTHIA, BEFORE

WE HIT ALL OF DIFFERENT

STEPS, LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS

ONE ISSUE.

AS CHRISTIANS, IT IS REALLY

EASY TO LOOK AT THAT CHILD

THAT SEEMS STRONG-WILLED AND

LABEL THEM AS REBELLIOUS.

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?

WHAT IS THE FINE LINE OF?

YOU'RE BEING REBELLIOUS OR

STRONG-WILLED?

SOMETIMES IT TURNS MORE

IN DESIGNATION.

PROVERBS 3: 5-6: "TRUST THE

LORD WITH ALL OF YOUR

HEART."

AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY SAYS,

"IN ALL OF YOUR WAYS,

ACKNOWLEDGE GOD."?

IN RAISING MY STRONG-WILLED

CHILD, IT WAS ALWAYS COMING

BACK TO THAT.

IS THE DESIRE OF YOUR LIFE,

MIKE, TO BRING HONOR AND

GLORY TO GOD?

YOU KNOW IT IS.

DO YOU THINK WHAT YOU

JUST DID SAYS THAT?

WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT

BOTTOM LINE.

Kristi: I GREW UP IN A

GENERATION IF I TELL YOU TO

DO SOMETHING, YOU DO IT.

YOU DON'T ASK.

AND I'M A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

I ASK MY SON, TELL ME WHAT

YOU THINK SO WE CAN WALK

THIS TOGETHER.

SOMETIMES IT IS A POSITIVE

AND A NEGATIVE.

BECAUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF MY

INSTRUCTION, HE IS TALKING

ABOUT.?

AND I'M LIKE, DON'T MAKE ME

HAVE TO BEAT YOU.

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE

BONY FINGER.

IT'S LIKE WHEN YOU ARE

TELLING ME, IT'S LIKE YOU'RE

POINTING YOUR BONY FINGER AT

ME SAYING, LISTEN, THIS IS

WHAT I NEED YOU TO DO.

YOU CAN GET TO THE BOTTOM

LINE, BUT IF YOU TAKE THE

BONY FINGER AWAY -- IN OTHER

WORDS, INSTEAD OF SAYING,

THAT'S NOT RIGHT, SAY DO YOU

THINK THAT IS RIGHT?

DO YOU THINK THERE IS

ANOTHER WAY WE COULD DO

THIS?

DID YOU MEAN TO HURT YOUR

SISTER'S FEELINGS?

IT GIVES ME, THE

STRONG-WILLED PERSON A

GRACEFUL FIRE ESCAPE, LIKE,

NO, IT DOESN'T.

BUT THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS

YOU CAN STILL GET ME TO

WHERE I WANT TO BE.

I TALKED TO THOUSANDS OF

KIDS WHO NEVER HAVE BEEN TO

CHURCH WHO SAY, I DON'T WANT

TO GET BY WITH BAD BEHAVIOR,@z

AND I WOULDN'T RESPECT YOU

IF YOU LET ME, BUT IT IS

ALWAYS WORTH A TRY.

SO IT IS ALL IN HOW YOU

COMMUNICATE YOUR AUTHORITY,

HOW YOU TALK TO ME, AND HOW

YOU COUCH YOUR QUESTIONS.

AND THERE ARE SOME VERY

PRACTICAL WAYS, THAT WITH

PRACTICE, IT IS ALMOST LIKE

MAGIC.

Kristi: GIVE US SOME

STRATEGIES BEFORE WE

CONCLUDE THE INTERVIEW.

WHAT ARE SOME STRATEGIES?

KEEP YOUR VOICE CALM.

KEEP YOUR VOICE FIRM BUT

CALM.

THOSE WHO ANGER YOU CONTROL

YOU.

IF YOUR STRONG-WILLED CHILD

CAN BAIT YOU AND MAKE YOU

RAISE YOUR VOICE AND MAKE

YOU LOOSE YOUR TEMPER, WE

JUST WRESTLED THE SITUATION

INTO OUR CONTROL INSTEAD OF

YOURS.

EVEN THOUGH YOUR

ADMINISTERING PUNISHMENT,

KEEP YOUR VOICE LOW AND CALM

AND RESPECTFUL.

MODEL THE KIND OF RESPECT

YOU WANT TO GET BACK FROM

YOUR CHILD.

Kristi: I JUST FAILED

THAT TEST THIS MORNING.

STRATEGY NUMBER TWO.

AND USE SOME QUESTIONS.

AND NOT QUESTIONS LIKE --

YOU TRY TO AVOID ANY

QUESTION THAT HAS WHY AND

YOU IN THE SAME SENTENCE.

BUT QUESTIONS THAT AREN'T

ASKING PERMISSION, BUT

THEY'RE ASKING ME, AS A

STRONG-WILLED KID, THINK

ABOUT THIS.

I SAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND

THIS HOMEWORK.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HELP

YOU.

EX THASK THE QUESTION.

BECAUSE I CAN SAY, MAYBE FOR

THIS ONE THING, I'LL DO IT.

IF YOU JUST SAY, MOVE OVER,

I'LL HELP YOU, I'M ALREADY

DEFENSIVE.

Kristi: THAT'S GOOD.@z

CAN YOU CONTINUE THEúmúm

INTERVIEW IN THE GREENúm

ROOM.

THEY'RE TELLING ME TO WRAP,@Z

BUT I WANT SOME NOTES.

BY THE WAY, I JUST FAILED

THE ENTIRE TEST.

I DID ALL OF THE THINGS I

WASN'T SUPPOSED TO DO.

CYNTHIA'S BOOK HAS MANY MORE

STRATEGIES IN BRINGING OUT

THE BEST IN OUR

STRONG-WILLED CHILD.

IT IS CALLED "YOU CANT MAKE

ME, BUT I CAN BE

PERSUADED."

AS PEOPLE KNOW, WHEN I'VE

GOT A GOOD BOOK, I TEND TO

STEAL IT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OFúÑúm

THEM.

CYNTHIA, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

Kristi: COMING UP, WE

HAVE A STORY ABOUT A MAN WHO

LOST EVERYTHING HE OWNED,

BUT SEE HOW THREE GIFTS GAVE

HIM HIS LIFE BACK.

Pat: MAN IN MANY THIRD

WORLD COUNTRIES, A LITTLE

BIT GOES A LONG WAY TO

HELP.

IT DOESN'T MAKE MUCH TO

SUPPORT AN ENTIRE FAMILY.

BUT FOR ONE MAN IN INDIA,

ALL IT TOOK WAS A FISHING

NET, A BICYCLE, AND AN ICE

BOX.

Reporter: WHEN FLOODS

HIT THE EAST COAST OF INDIA,

DILI'S FISHING NETS WASHED

AWAY, LEAVING HIM WITH NO

WAY TO MAKE A LIVING OR FEED

HIS FAMILY.

IT WAS HORRIBLE TO SEE

OUR ENTIRE VILLAGE SUBMERGED

UNDER WATER.

WE LOST EVERYTHING WE

OWNED.

MY FAMILY WAS STARVING.

Reporter: CBN RESPONDED

QUICKLY TO THE DISASTER WITH

RELIEF APPLIES, FOOD, AND

SLEEPING BAGS.

WHEN WE LOST EVERYTHING,

YOU WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT

HELPED US.

YOU GAVE US WHAT WE NEEDED

TO SURVIVE.

SURVIVE.

Reporter: WHAT WE GAVE

HIM NEXT REALLY PUT A SMILE

ON HIS DAUGHTER'S FACE.

I WAS SO HAPPY WHEN YOU

GAVE MY FATHER A BRAND NEW

FISHING NET, A BICYCLE TO

BRING HIS FISH TO THE

MARKET, AND AN ICE BOX TO

KEEP THE FISH FRESH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

HELPING US.

YOU GAVE ME EXACTLY WHAT I

NEEDED TO SUPPORT MY

FAMILY.

YOU HAVE RESTORED MY LIFE.

Pat: YOU HAVE RESTORED

MY LIFE.

FOLKS, A FEW DOLLARS MAKES

SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

BY THE WAY, WE'VE GOT

SOMETHING WE WANT TO GIVE

YOU.

THESE ARE D.V.D.s, "LIFE

BEYOND THEGRAPHY, THE

GRAVE," AND THESE ARE PEOPLE

WHO DIED AND CAME BACK TO

TELL US.

WE'LL GIVE YOU THESE IF YOU

JOIN "THE 700 CLUB," 65

CENTS A DAY, $20.

WE'LL GIVE YOU EXTRA COPIES

AND DO ALL KINDS OF GOOD

STUFF.

I THINK YOU'LL ENJOY IT.

WELL, TOMORROW, WE'VE GOT

THE BIRTH ORDER GUY.

BEST-SELLING AUTHOR KEVIN

LEMAN.

HE IS GOING TO, WELL, BE

WITH US, AND YOU'LL ENJOY

HIS INTRIGUING CONCEPTS

ABOUT HOW TO RAISE CHILDREN

OR HOW HE GOT RAISED, OR

WHATEVER.

BUT HE'LL BE A LOT OF FUN.

TODAY, WE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM PROVERBS

22: "TRAIN UP A CHILD IN THE

WAY HE SHOULD GO.

AND WHEN HE IS OLD, HE WILL

NOT DEPART FROM IT."

WORDS OF WISDOM FROM 3,000

YEARS AGO.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

I APPRECIATE KRISTI AND ALL

OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN WITH

US.

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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