Gordon: INSIDE THE
FASTEST SELLING BOOK SERIES
OF ALL TIME.
SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A
LOVE STORY.
Gordon: HOW IT IS
CHANGING RELATIONSHIPS.
WOMEN ARE NATURALLY
CURIOUS.
IT TAKES SEX TO A WHOLE
OTHER LEVEL.
Gordon: ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB INTERACTIVE."
ON "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE,"
WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY
FOR EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE
TOPICS THAT MATTER TO YOU.
WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN
THE WORLD TODAY.
Gordon: WELCOME TO THIS
SHOW.
WINSTON CHURCHILL ONCE SAID,
WRITING IS AN ADVENTURE, AND
YET IT IS ONE OF THE MOST
DIFFICULT AD V ADVENTURE
THAT ANY AUTHOR WILL ENDURE
BECAUSE ONLY 3% OF BOOKS
WILL EVER PUBLISHED.
Kristi: GORDON, ONE
ASPIRING BRITISH AUTHOR WAS
NOT GOING TO TAKE NO FOR AN
ANSWER.
IN 2010, SHE SELF-PUBLISHED
HER NOVEL ON HER OWN
WEBSITE.
NOW TWO YEARS LATER, "50
SHADES OF GREY," HAS SOLD
OVER 50 MILLION COPIES
WORLDWIDE.
50 SHADES BECAME THE FASTEST
SELLING PAPERBACK BOOK EVER,
BEATING OUT J.ROWLING'S
"HARRY POTTER" SERIOUS.
AND IT SOLD SIX TIMES MORE
KINDLE eBOOKS THAN PRINT
COPIES.
IN THE U.K., MORE THAN
2.75 MILLION ELECTRONIC
COPIES HAVE BEEN
DOWNLOADED.
10 MOVIE STUDIOS SPARRED FOR
THE RIGHTS, WITH UNIVERSAL
STUDIOS PAYING $5 MILLION TO
TURN IT INTO A FEATURE
FILM.
MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS BOOK
IS PORN AIMED AT WOMEN, AND
WOMEN ARE BUYING IT IN
RECORD NUMBERS.
THE RECORD-BREAKING SALES OF
50 SHADES OF GREY HAVE LEFT
THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY
PRETTY MUCH AT A LOSS FOR
WORDS.
EXCEPT FOR SHANNON
ETHRIDGE.
SHE IS THE AUTHOR OF
"EXPOSING THE DEEPER MEANING
BEHIND SEXUAL THOUGHTS."
SHE SAYS CHRISTIAN WOMEN
NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE ROOTS
OF SEXUAL FANTASY AND HOW TO
DEAL WITH THOSE THOUGHTS IN
AN HONEST AND HEALTHY WAY.
JOINING US NOW IS SHANNON
ETHRIDGE, AUTHOR OF "THE
FANTASY FALSIE."
THEM SO MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
HAVING ME ON.
Kristi: WHY IS "50
SHADES OF GREY" SUCH A HIT
AMONG NOT JUST WOMEN, BUT
CHRISTIAN WOMEN AS WELL.
THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF
SERIES, THAT WOMEN ARE MORE
SEXUALLY LIBERATED THAN
BEFORE, AND COUPLES ARE
LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO
SPICE UP THEIR SEX LIVES.
AND SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING
THAT WOMEN ARE LOOKING FOR A
MAN TO DOMINATE THEM.
I'M NOT SURE I ASCRIBE TO
ANY OF THESE PHILOSOPHIES.
I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING,
THERE IS SUCH A VOID OF
INFORMATION IN THE CHURCH,
AND IN THE HEALTHY WORLD
THAT HOPEFULLY MOST OF US
GROW UP IN, THAT ALL OF A
SUDDEN WITH IT BEING SO
MAINSTREAM, THEY'RE JUST
CURIOUS.
WOMEN ARE NATURALLY
CURIOUS.
BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY
THINK THIS IS A HEALTHY WAY
TO GET YOUR INFORMATION.
Kristi: I THINK THE
REASON IT IS SO DETRIMENTAL
IT TAKES SEX TO A WHOLE
OTHER LEVEL.
WE ALL REMEMBER THE
HARLEQUIN NOVELS WHERE THE
PRINCE COMES IN AND SWEEPS
HER OFF HER FEET, AND IT IS
LOVE.
AND NOW IT IS GOOD OLD
FASHIONE FASHIONED
FASHIONED MASOGNY, AND
HARD-CORE SEX.
I HAD TO READ IT IN ORDER
TO WRITE A RESPONSE TO IT.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME
PEOPLE CALL IT A LOVE STORY,
BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY A LOT
OF PEOPLE CALL IT A LUST
STORY.
IT SENDS A LOT OF MIXED
MESSAGES.
MY CONCERN IS FOR THE
YOUNGER GENERATION AND WOMEN
WHO ARE MORE
IMPRESSIONABLE.
THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY
EXAMPLE OF WHAT GOD INTENDED
FOR OUR SEX LIFE TO BE.
I'VE BEEN WRITING BOOKS
ABOUT HEALTHY SEXUALITY FOR
YEARS.
"THE SEXUALLY CONFIDENT
WIFE," BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD
OF A BOOK OUT THERE THAT
TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT
SEXUAL FANTASIES.
AND BECAUSE THE FANTASY
WORLD IS SUCH A BIG THING, I
THOUGHT, WE'VE GOT TO
ADDRESS THIS TOPIC.
Kristi: LET'S BE REAL.
WHY IS IT DETRIMENTAL?
WHY ARE SOME OF THE THINGS
THESE WOMEN ARE READING
DETRIMENTAL TO THE WOMEN?
WHY?
I THINK THE MORE WE FOCUS
ON FANTASY, THE MORE LUSTER
OUR REALITY LOSES.
AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.
IT MAY SPICE UP YOUR
MARRIAGE BED FOR A LITTLE
WHILE WITH THE TITILLATION,
BUT THAT'S LIKE A SHOOTING
STAR.
IT WILL BE REALLY EXCITING
FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN
IT WILL FADE TO NOTHING.
SO MANY OF THE HUSBANDS ARE
TELLING ME, MY WIFE IS
READING THIS TRILOGY, AND MY
WIFE HAS ALL OF THESE
EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT SHE
WANTS ME TO DO AND I FEEL
LIKE A PUPPET.
IT IS SORT OF WHAT WOMEN
WERE SAYING FOR YEARS, AND
THEY SAID, I FEEL LIKE MY
HUSBAND WANTS ME TO BE A
PORN STAR.
AND IT'S NOT HEALTHY.
Kristi: WHAT ABOUT
SPIRITUALLY?
WHY IS IT SPIRITUALLY
DETRIMENTAL TO OUR WALK WITH
CHRIST?
I THINK WHEN WE START
LOOKING TO ANOTHER PEOPLE
AND SEXUAL ACTIVITIES TO
GIVE US A SENSE OF
FULFILLMENT AND
SATISFACTION, WE'RE ALWAYS
GOING TO GO WRONG WHEN WE
START LOOKING TO HUMAN
BEINGS TO FULFILL US.
WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE
AUTHOR OF SEXUALITY TO TEACH
US HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIND
OUR SEXUAL FULFILLMENT.
AND THAT'S GOD.
GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF GOD.
OBVIOUSLY GOD CELEBRATES
SEX, BUT I CAN'T FATHOM HE
CELEBRATES THE SEX WE SEE IN
BOOKS LIKE "50 SHADES OF
GREY."
I DON'T THINK GOD WANTS US
TO EXPERIENCE PAIN ALONG
WITH OUR PLEASURE.
Kristi: HERE IS THE
QUESTION FOR YOU:
PORNOGRAPHY, I READ
SOMEWHERE THAT ONE OUT OF
THREE INDIVIDUALS ARE
ADDICTED TO PORN ARE WOMEN.
WHY IS PORN SO -- I DON'T
KNOW, SO REAL OR NOT REAL?
MEN AREN'T THE ONLY ONES
WHO ARE VISUALLY STIMULATED,
AND WOMEN ARE AS WELL.
AND THIS YOUNGER GENERATION,
WHO HAS GROWN UP WITH THE
INTERNET AND PORNOGRAPHY AT
THEIR FINGERTIPS, THEY ARE
CERTAINLY SHOWING US THEY'RE
VERY ADDICTED.
ONE OF MY COACHING CLIENTS
WAS A MOM WHO BROUGHT HER
12-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER TO ME
WHO SHE CAUGHT LOOKING AT
PORNOGRAPHY NUMEROUS TIMES
SINCE SHE WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS
OLD.
AS I DID SOME WORK WITH THIS
FAMILY, WHAT I LEARNED IS
THAT HER MOM -- HER FATHER
HAD BEEN KILLED IN A TRAGIC
BOATING ACCIDENT.
AND HER MOM HAD REALLY
EMOTIONALLY WITHDRAWN.
AND THE SCENARIOS THAT THIS
GIRL WAS SEEKING OUT IN
PORNOGRAPHIC SCENES ON THE
INTERNET -- THEY WEREN'T SEX
SCENES BETWEEN A MAN AND A
WOMAN.
THEY WERE JUST IMAGES OF
WOMEN EXPERIENCING PLEASURE
THEMSELVES.
WHAT WE FIGURED OUT IS THIS
WAS HER WAY OF MEDICATING
HER EMOTIONAL PAIN OF SEEING
HER MOTHER CARRY AROUND SO
MUCH PAIN, AND BEING SO
EMOTIONALLY WITHDRAWN.
ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO WALK
THROUGH SOME OF THAT WITH
HER MOM, AND HELP HER
UNDERSTAND SHE NEEDED TO GET
SOME HEALING FOR HER
HUSBAND'S DEATH, THEN HER
DAUGHTER AND HAD WERE ABLE
TO RECONNECT.
WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
IS WE SEARCH FOR SEX, AND
WHAT WE'RE -- WE'RE SURFING
FOR SEX, BUT WHAT WE'RE
REALLY SEARCHING FOR IS GOD
AND A DEEPER EMOTIONAL
CONNECTION WITH ANOTHER
HUMAN BEING.
THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING
WE'RE GOING TO FIND ON
LINE.
THAT'S TO MEDICATE OUR
EMOTIONAL PAIN.
Kristi: I DIDN'T MEAN
TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I LOVE
THE FACT THAT YOU HIT THAT
POINT.
WE KNOW THAT MEN ARE MORE
VISUAL, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO
FANTASY AND THINGS OF THAT
SORT, WOMEN ARE SEARCHING TO
FULFILL THAT NEED IN THEIR
HEART, THE FANTASY OF IT.
ONE THING WE DIDN'T ADDRESS
IS FANTASY.
IS FANTASY RIGHT OR WRONG?
AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO
FANTASIZE?
CHRISTIANS HEAR THAT WORD
AND IT IS ALMOST MORE TABOO
THAN THE WORD SEX.
FANTASIES ARE A SERIES OF
THOUGHTS THAT MEET A
PSYCHOLOGICAL NEED.
IT IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL
CONSCIOUS, IF YOU THINK
FANTASY IS APPROPRIATE FOR
NOT.
IN THE COUPLES I
INTERVIEWED, FANTASY SERVES
A PURPOSE.
OLDER COUPLES FANTASIZE
ABOUT WHAT SEX USED TO BE
WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER
YOUNGER.
WE CAN USE FANTASY TO SPICE
UP OUR SEX LIFE TO IMAGINE
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR
ONE ANOTHER.
OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A REASON
WHY GOD WIRED OUR BRAINS IN
SUCH A WAY THAT WE
EXPERIENCE FANTASY.
IT IS A VERY NATURAL, AND
CAN BE A VERY HELPFUL PART
OF OUR SEXUALITY.
BUT, OF COURSE, IT CAN
BECOME VERY UNHEALTHY WHEN
WE TAKE IT IN A DIRECTION
THAT CROSSES THE LINE, AND
WHEN WE START LOOKING
OUTSIDE OF OUR MARRIAGE BED
FOR A SENSE OF FULFILLMENT.
Kristi: SHANNON, WE
ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE SOME
SORT OF RESOLUTION.
WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENCOURAGE
A YOUNG GIRL, A MOM OUT
THERE, WHO -- I DON'T WANT
TO SAY ADDICTED, BUT REALLY
DRAWN TO THE BOOK SERIES AND
REALLY DRAWN TO THESE BOOK
FANTASIES.
WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT
PERSON TO ENCOURAGE THEM?
WHAT I WANTED PEOPLE TO
GET FROM THE FANTASY FALOGY,
IS THAT SEXUAL FANTASIES IS
THE BRAIN'S WAY OF TRYING TO
HEAL ITSELF FROM PAST
EMOTIONAL TRAUMATIC.
IT IS NOT A ROADMAP TO
FUTURE SEXUAL FULFILLMENT.
IT IS NOT THAT WE HAVE TO
MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN
ORDER TO BE SEXUALLY
SATISFIED.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HERO
AND THE HEROINE IN THIS
STORY, IN THE "50 SHADES"
THAT'S DEFINITELY THE POINT
SHE IS TRYING TO MAKE.
THE REASON HE WANTS TO BRING
PAIN ON HIS GIRLFRIEND, IS
BECAUSE HE WAS PAINED AS A
CHILD.
I JUST WANT TO WARN PEOPLE,
IF YOU ARE THINKING THAT
ACTING OUT CERTAINLY SEXUAL
FANTASIES ARE GOING TO BE
WHAT FULFILLS YOU, SO MANY
WOMEN AND MEN TOLD ME THEY
TRIED THAT, AND THEY WOUND
UP EXPERIENCING MORE PAIN
THAN THEY HAD BEFORE.
AND NOW IT IS CONFUSED WITH
A SENSE OF GUILT AND SHAME
AND DEGRADATION.
AND IT ULTIMATELY BROUGHT
MORE PAIN INTO THAT
RELATIONSHIP THAN THERE WAS
EVEN BEFORE.
Kristi: INCREDIBLE.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: WE
HAVE TO HAVE OUR HEART AND
MIND IN JESUS CHRIST.
EVERYTHING WE LAY OUR EYES
ON HAS TO BE HONORABLE TO
THE LORD AND PLEASING TO
HIM.
SHANNON, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE WITH US.
SHANNON BOOK IS CALLED "THE
FANTASY FALOSY."
INCREDIBLE, GORDON.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Gordon: INCREDIBLE.
YOU LOOK AT THE PHENOMENON,
AND I HAVEN'T READ THE
BOOKS, BUT I DID READ A
SUMMATION OF IT BEFORE THE
SHOW, AND YOU GE GO,
REALLY, 40 MILLION OF THAT
WAS SOLD.
AND I'M UNDERSTANDING WHY
THE AUTHOR COULDN'T FIND A
PUBLISHER.
IT WAS SO EDGY.
AND NOW CHRISTIAN GROUPS ARE
SAYING, HAVE YOU READ THIS?
AND I'M GOING, WHY?
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GO
INTO THIS?
JUST FROM THE SUMMATION, THE
FIRST DATE OF THIS COUPLE IS
IN THE HARDWARE STORE.
I'M GOING, HUH?
Kristi: YEAH.
RIGHT.
RIGHT.
I THINK THE ESSENCE OF IT,
GORDON, WHICH IS WHAT WE
TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE, AND
TOUCHED UPON IN THE
INTERVIEW, IT IS
DETRIMENTAL.
JUST LIKE PORNOGRAPHY IS
DETRIMENTAL TO THE MAN OR
WOMAN.
ESPECIALLY MEN.
THEY GET ADDICTED AND THE
IMAGES ARE CONSTANTLY
REPLAYING IN THEIR MIND AND
IT STARTS TO WOUND AND HURT
THEIR SOUL AND THEIR
RELATIONS AND THEIR SPIRIT.
I FEEL LIKE IT IS THE SAME
THING WHEN A WOMAN READS
THESE BOOKS.
BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THESE
IMAGES IN A WOMAN'S MIND, IT
AFFECTS THE WAY SHE RESPONDS
TO MALES --
Gordon: THE MAJORITY OF
READERS SEEM TO BE WOMEN, IF
THE STATS ARE RIGHT.
YOU WERE HIDDEN ON IT, YOU
CALLED IT OLD FASHION THE
MASOGONY.
WHY WOULD WOMEN WANT TO HAVE
A FANTASY OF MALE
DOMINATION?
WHAT IS THAT?
Kristi: I DON'T KNOW.
Gordon: IT DOESN'T
HAPPEN WITH YOU?
Kristi: NO.
I'VE GOT TO BE HONEST WITH
YOU, THE BOOK SERIES HAS
NEVER BEEN ENTICING TO ME.
WHY WOULD I WANT TO READ
THAT?
Gordon: WHY PUT THAT IN
YOUR MIND?
Kristi: THAT'S THE
ESSENCE OF IT, WHY PUT THAT
IN OUR MIND.
THE LORD TALKS ABOUT HOW WE
HAVE TO GUIDE OUR HEART AND
OUR MIND.
GOD WANTS US TO PRESERVE OUR
HEART AND MIND FOR A REASON,
SO THAT WE DON'T TAKE IN
THOSE TOXINS BECAUSE IT IS
DETRIMENTAL TO OUR SOUL AND
OUR SPIRIT.
YEAH.
Gordon: YEAH.
I'LL TELL YOU ANOTHER
TAKE-AWAY FROM THE
INTERVIEW, AND I REALLY WANT
TO IMPRESS THIS UPON PEOPLE,
IF YOU PUT THESE FANTASIES
INTO ACTION, YOU'LL FIND A
VERY DARK PLACE.
Kristi: THAT'S GOOD.
Gordon: SHE IS SAYING
SHE TALKED TO MEN AND WOMEN
WHO HAVE DONE IT AND HAVE
ACTED IT OUT, AND THEY CAME
TO A PLACE OF DEGRADATION.
SO KEEP YOURSELF FROM THAT.
YOU DON'T WANT THAT.
IT ACTUALLY MAGNIFIES THE
PAIN.
AND MAKES IT WORSE.
IF YOU REALLY WANT EMOTIONAL
HEALING IN YOUR LIFE, TURN
TO THE ONE SOURCE THAT CAN
GIVE IT TO YOU, AND THAT IS
YOUR MAKER, WHO LOVES YOU
UNCONDITIONALLY, AND WANTS
TO AFFIRM YOU, NOT JUST AS
HIS CHILD, BUT FOR WHAT YOU
CAN BECOME.
THAT HE WANTS TO MAKE YOU
PART OF HIS ROYAL HOUSEHOLD
AND WANTS TO GIVE YOU
DIGNITY.
WANTS TO GIVE YOU A
PURPOSE.
AND WILL NEVER SHAME YOU,
AND NEVER PUT YOU DOWN.
WANTS TO ENCOURAGE YOU AND
LIFT YOU UP, SEATTLE YOU
SEAT YOU WITH HIM IN HIGH
PLACES, IN HEAVENLY PLACES.
REALIZE THAT AND TURN TO
THAT.
THAT'S THE SOURCE.
COMING UP, A YOUNG GIRL IS
PUT UP FOR SALE BY HER
RELATIVES.
FIND OUT HOW SHE WAS RESCUED
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Gordon: IT SEEMS
UNIMAGINABLE THAT ANY WOMAN
WERE EVER WANT TO SELL A
CHILD, BUT FOR THOUSANDS OF
CHILDREN WORLDWIDE, THIS IS
THEIR REALITY.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE
YOU TO ANYA.
SHE WAS ABOUT TO BE ONE OF
THOSE STATISTICS, UNTIL
PEOPLE LIKE YOU MADE IT
RESPONSIBL POSSIBLE FOR HER
RESCUE.
THIS IS HER STORY.
MAMA USED TO CALL ME HER
LITTLE PRINCESS.
SHE SAID ONE DAY SHE WOULD
BUY ME A PRETTY DRESS, A
PRINCESS DRESS.
[YELLING]
ONE DAY THE POLICEMAN
CAME AND TOOK MY MOM AWAY.
THEY SAID SHE STOLE
SOMETHING.
I KNEW SHE DIDN'T MEAN TO.
NOW I HAVE TO LIVE WITH MY
AUNT.
SHE YELLS AT ME A LOT.
SOMETIMES I IMAGINE BEING
MAMA'S LITTLE PRINCESS.
I WISH I COULD BE A
BETTER LITTLE GIRL SO SHE
WOULD LOVE ME MORE.
THIS IS MY NEW HOME.
THE KIDS HERE ARE REALLY
NICE.
THAT HAD A PARTY, AND I WORE
MY BRAND NEW DRESS.
IT WAS LIKE A REAL BALL.
TODAY I FEEL LIKE A
PRINCESS.
Gordon: PALMS SAYS, HE
LOVES TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM
THE ASH HEAP AND SET THEM TO
A PRINCESS.
HERE FROM THE ASH HEAP TO A
PRINCESS, ALL BECAUSE PEOPLE
LIKE YOU CARED ENOUGH TO
GIVE.
IF THAT'S YOU, IF YOU WANT
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DO IT NOW.
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KRISTI?
Kristi: THANK YOU,
GORDON.
STILL AHEAD, ONE TEENAGER
DOESN'T WANT TO GO TO CAMP.
WHY?
BECAUSE SHE SAYS THERE IS
NOT GOING TO BE ANY PORN.
H'MMM, FIND OUT WHAT CHANGED
HER UP NEXT.
Gordon: EVERY YEAR,
72 MILLION AMERICANS VIEW
PORN ON THE INTERNET.
AND WHILE MANY EXPECT THAT
MOST OF THESE ARE MEN,
NEARLY A THIRD ARE WOMEN,
LIKE THE ONE YOU'RE ABOUT TO
MEET.
I FELT TWO VERY DIFFERENT
FEELINGS AT THE SAME TIME.
ONE OF SHAME, AND THEN
MOLESTLY WIT IMMEDIATELY
WITH THAT, I FELT AN ODD
SENSE OF SATISFACTION, LIKE
THE FULFILLING IN ME THAT
WAS A VOID.
ONE DAY AFTER SCHOOL I FOUND
IN MY BROTHER'S BATHROOM A
PORNOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE.
IT WAS LIKE NOTHING I HAD
EVER SEEN BEFORE.
I WAS ALMOST SCARED.
LIKE, AM I TO LOOK AT THIS?
I WAS CURIOUS.
AND I OPENED THE MAGAZINE
UP, AND IN THAT ONE
PARTICULAR MOMENT, I WAS
KIND OF THRUSTED INTO SEX ED
IN A WAY THAT NO CHILD
SHOULD EVER BE INTRODUCED.
AND IT BEGAN AT ALMOST THE
AGE OF 10.
BUT I KNEW I NEEDED TO FIND
MORE OF THIS.
I BEGAN TO LOOK AROUND MY
HOUSE A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, IS
THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT
COULD GIVE ME THAT SAME KIND
OF HIGH, THAT SAME KIND OF
CHARGE THAT THAT MAGAZINE
DID.
I KNEW MY DAD HAD MOVIES HE
SAID I COULDN'T WATCH.
SO AFTER SCHOOL ONE DAY, I
BEGAN TO RAID HIS MOVIE
CABINET.
AND WOULD FAST FORWARD TO
THOSE MOVIES, TO ANY SEX
SCENE, ADULT SCENE, THAT I
COULD FIND.
BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH
EITHER.
AT ABOUT AGE 13, MY SCHOOL
HAD INTERNET, AND SO I WOULD
STAY AFTER SCHOOL.
I WOULD LOOK UP NAKED
PEOPLE, OR SEX, OR WHATEVER
WORDS I ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT
THE TERMS WERE FOR.
AND SOON AFTER THAT,
CYBER-SEX LED TO PHONE SEX.
WHEN I WAS 16, I BEGAN GOING
TO CHURCH WITH MY MOM.
AND I WAS GIVEN THE
OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO SUMMER
CAMP.
I WAS ACTUALLY TERRIFIED
ABOUT GOING TO CAMP.
IT MEANT FIVE DAYS WITHOUT
THOSE THINGS THAT I HAD BEEN
LIVING WITH AND LIVING FOR.
BUT SOMEHOW, SOME WAY, I
MADE THAT DECISION TO GO.
ONE NIGHT AT THE CAMP, THE
PASTOR SAID, YOU HAVE A
FATHER IN HEAVEN WHO LOVES
YOU, AND WHO LOVES YOU
UNCONDITIONALLY.
AND TO ME, THE IDEA OF
HAVING A FATHER WHO IS
ALWAYS AVAILABLE, ALWAYS
THERE FOR ME, A COMFORTER,
AND WHO LOVES ME
UNCONDITIONALLY, IS
SOMETHING I REALLY WANTED TO
SIGN UP FOR.
AND SO THAT NIGHT AT CAMP I
ACCEPTED CHRIST AS MY LORD
AND SAVIOR, BUT MY ADDICTION
DID NOT LEAVE ME.
WHEN I GOT HOME, EVEN THOUGH
I HAD MADE THAT DECISION TO
FOLLOW CHRIST, I WENT
IMMEDIATELY BACK INTO MY OLD
ROUTINE.
EVEN MORE SO.
AND THIS TIME WITH EVEN MORE
SHAME, AND NOW WITH A TON OF
CONVICTION THAT I HAD NEVER
FELT BEFORE.
BUT IT WOULD BE TWO YEARS
BEFORE I WOULD HIT ROCK
BOTTOM.
I, UM, WAS IN A HOTEL ROOM,
WAITING FOR A PERSON TO
ARRIVE, WHO I HAD ARRANGED
AN ANONYMOUS ENCOUNTER WITH
ON THE INTERNET.
IT'S FREEZING COLD.
I'M SHAKING, JUST THINKING,
HOW DID I GET HERE?
HOW DID I GET TO THIS POINT
THAT THINGS ARE SO
DETRIMENTAL, SO DESTRUCTIVE,
THAT I'M ALLOWING MYSELF TO
BE PUT AT RISK BY SOMEBODY I
DON'T EVEN KNOW IN ORDER TO
FULFILL THIS HIGH THAT I'M
AFTER?
AND IN THAT MOMENT GOD JUST
MET ME THERE.
I HEARD HIS VOICE AUDIBLY
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY
LIFE.
AND HE SAID TO ME, CRYSTAL,
I HAVE SO MUCH MORE FOR YOU
THAN THIS LIFE YOU'RE
LIVING.
TRUST ME AND GIVE THIS TO ME
RIGHT NOW.
AND IN THAT SAME MOMENT,
THERE WAS SOMEBODY AT THE
DOOR KNOCKING, AND I KNOW
WHO IT IS.
AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE A
CHOICE TO MAKE IN THAT
MOMENT.
EITHER TRUST GOD AND ALLOW
HIM TO TAKE THIS FROM ME OR
OPEN THE DOOR AND GIVE
MYSELF AWAY.
I MADE THE CHOICE TO TRUST
GOD AND JUST SURRENDER IN
THAT MOMENT, AND SAY, LORD,
IF YOU'RE REALLY HERE, THEN
TAKE THIS FROM ME.
GIVE ME A WAY OUT.
AND HE DID.
THE PERSON AT THE DOOR
LEFT.
AND SOON AFTER I DID AS
WELL.
I STILL DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO
COME CLEAN.
I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO BREAK
FREE FROM THIS BY MYSELF.
SO I JUST PRAYED, GOD,
PLEASE BRING SOMEBODY INTO
MY LIFE WHO I CAN TELL THIS
TO, OR WHO WILL TELL ME
SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, I FELT
LIKE I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN
THE WORLD, THE ONLY FEMALE
IN THE WORLD, THAT COULD
POSSIBLY BE STRUGGLING WITH
PORNOGRAPHY.
ONE WEEK LATER I WAS AT A
CONCERT, WHEN I CAME ACROSS
A WOMAN I HAD ONLY KNOWN AS
AN ACQUAINTANCE BEFORE
THIS.
WE SHARED OUR LIVES WITH ONE
ANOTHER.
SHE SAID TO ME, CRYSTAL, I
USED TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
PORNOGRAPHY.
AND I WAS ABLE TO FIND
FREEDOM FROM THAT.
I FOUND VICTORY IN THAT.
AND YOU COULD PROBABLY SEE
MY FACE TURN EVERY WHITER
THAN IT ALREADY IS, AND I
SAID, ME, TOO.
AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON, I
WAS ENGAGED IN AN
ACCOUNTABLE RELATIONSHIP
WITH HER.
BUT NOT ONLY WITH HER, BUT
WITH GOD.
FULLY SURRENDERING, NOT JUST
THE BEHAVIORS I WAS INVOLVED
IN, BUT THE LONGINGS OF MY
HEART TO HIM.
AND I'M NOW SEVEN AND A HALF
YEARS SOBIBOR SOBER, AND
I'M THANKFUL EVERY DAY THAT
GOD MEETS YOU IN THE DARKEST
PLACES, IN THE HARDEST
PLACES, AND HE DOES PROVIDE
YOU A WAY OUT.
AND HE DOES PROVIDE YOU WITH
HELP AND HOPE.
Gordon: HE WILL DO THE
SAME THING FOR YOU.
IF YOU JUST TRUST HIM.
IF YOU JUST LET HIM.
NOW WHAT CRYSTAL WENT
THROUGH AND WHAT SHE IS
DESCRIBING, IT MAKES IT
SOUND LIKE PORNOGRAPHY IS A
DRUG.
AND WHAT SCIENTISTS ARE
TELLING US NOW IS THAT IT
IS.
THAT THE MERE ACT OF VIEWING
THE IMAGINARY LEASES A
COCAINE-LIKE HIGH IN YOUR
BRAIN.
AND YOU GET ADDICTED TO
THAT.
AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT
HIGH.
AND THEN BECAUSE YOU'VE
SATURATED YOUR BRAIN WITH
THE IMAGES, YOU THEN HAVE TO
ACT IT OUT.
AND HERE IS CRYSTAL, ALL
ALONE IN A HOTEL ROOM, AND
SHE IS WAITING FOR THE
HIGH.
AND IN THAT GOD SPEAKS TO
HER AND SAYS, CRYSTAL, I
HAVE SO MUCH MORE FOR YOU.
IF YOU JUST LET ME.
IF YOU JUST LET ME.
THE FIRST THING IN
OVERCOMING ANY ADDICTION IS
TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS
A GOD WHO CAN RESTORE YOU.
WHO CAN LITERALLY REWIRE
YOUR BRAIN SO NO LONGER DO
YOU EVEN HAVE THE DESIRE FOR
IT.
SO PRAY THE SAME PRAYER
CRYSTAL PRAYED.
WHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT
TEMPTATION, SHE SAID, JESUS,
IF YOU'RE THERE, COULD YOU
SAVE ME?
COULD YOU HEAL ME?
COULD YOU DELIVER ME FROM
THIS?
AND YOU'LL FIND THAT HE'LL
ANSWER THAT.
IT IS THAT PRAYER FROM THE
DEPTHS OF YOUR BEING.
WHERE YOU'RE NOT PLAYING
GAMES, YOU'RE NOT SAYING,
OKAY, I NEED TO BE
TEMPORARILY OUT OF TROUBLE
SO I CAN GO BACK TO MY
ADDICTION.
NO.
IT'S WHEN YOU REALLY MEAN IT
WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART.
IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO PRAY
WITH YOU, WE'RE HERE FOR
YOU, AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOU
24 HOURS A DAY.
SO IF THERE IS ANY NEED IN
YOUR LIFE FOR PRAYER, CALL
US.
THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.
1-888-777-1999.
JUST SAY, I NEED PRAYER.
I NEED HELP.
I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF
TEMPTATION.
WILL YOU PRAY WITH ME?
AND WE'LL BE HERE FOR YOU.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM HEBREWS: "LET US
THEREFORE COME BOLDLY TO THE
THRONE OF GRACE THAT WE MAY
OBTAIN MERCY AND FIND GRACE
TO HELP IN TIME OF NEED."
GOD BLESS YOU.
David: THIS WEEK ON
"THE BRODY FILE," OH, BOY,
GET READY.
IT'S A CIVIL WAR BATTLE
WITHIN THE G.O.P., THE
CHUCKLEHEADS VERSUS THE
KNUCKLEHEADS.
THE TEA PARTY IS HOPPING MAD
WITH KARL ROVE.
WE HAVE THE DETAILS.
ALSO, ONE-ON-ONE, UP ON THE
HILL WITH ONE OF THE LEADERS
OF THE TEA PARTY, SENATOR
RAND PAUL.
IT IS DISENGINE WU DISIN
INGENUS OF THE POLITICIANS
TO CARE PEOPLE.
David: DANA BASH,
TALKING ABOUT HER JEWISH
UPBRINGING.
YOU GO TO SYNAGOGUE, AND
IF YOU GO TO JEWISH SUMMER
CAMP, WHICH I DID, YOU LEARN
ABOUT THIS FOUNDATION OF
JUDAISM, AND THAT IS MAKING
SURE YOUR KIDS LEARN.
David: PLUS, GERALD AS
THE U.S. SENATOR?
OY-GEVALT.
"THE BRODY FILE" IS NEXT.
*
David: AND WELCOME,
EVERYBODY, TO "THE BRODY
FILE."
LET ME SAY HERE AT THE TOP,
WE HAVE A FIGHT BREWING.
THIS IS WORSE THAN TOM AND
JERRY FIGHTING.
ACTUALLY, WORSE THAN NANCY
AND TONYA AS WELL.
AND IT IS WORSE THAN EVEN
JOAN COLLINS AND LINDA EVANS
IN DYNASTY.
*
*
David: LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, THAT FIGHT MIGHT
BE NASTY, BUT THAT IS
NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT IS
ABOUT TO TRANSPIRE BETWEEN
THE CHUCKLEHEADS AND THE
KNUCKLEHEADS.
SO HERE IS THE BACKDROP,
MANY G.O.P. ESTABLISHMENT
TYPES THINK THAT THE TEA
PARTY IS MESSING THINGS UP
FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
THAT THE TEA PARTY IS MADE
UP OF STUBBORN, ULTRA
CONSERVATIVE CHUCKLEHEADS,
WHO NEED TO STOP MUCKING UP
SENATE RACES AND LEGISLATION
ON CAPITOL HILL.
HOWEVER, THE TEA PARTY
THINKS MANY IN THE G.O.P.
ESTABLISHMENT ARE A BUNCH OF
KNUCKLEHEADS WHO WANT TO
JUST WIN ELECTIONS WITH
WISHY-WASHY CONSERVATIVES.
AND NOW THIS, KARL ROVE AND
HIS ESTABLISHMENT BUDDIES
ARE SETTING UP A SUPER PACT
CALLED THE CONSERVATIVE
VICTORY PROJECT.
THE GOAL TO FUND THE MOST "
ELECTABLE" REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATES.
THEY THINK ROVE AND HIS
COLLEAGUES ARE TRYING TO
BULLY TEA PARTY
CONSERVATIVES OUT OF PRIMARY
RACES.
THE THEORY IS THAT ROVE AND
HIS NEW SUPER PACK WILL BACK
POSSIBLY MORE
MODERATE-LEANING REPUBLICANS
ALL IN AN ATTEMPT TO WIN
MORE SEATS ON THE HILL FOR
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
BUT AT WHAT COST?
WOULD THE G.O.P. NO LONGER
TRULY STAND FOR
CONSTITUTIONALLY
CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES?
THE WAR IS ON.
IF THIS GROUP IS GOING TO
BE PICKING AND CHOOSING OUR
CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES,
WOULD THEY HAVE PICKED DICK
LUGER IN HIS PRIMARY RACE
OVER THE CHOICE OF THE LOCAL
VOTERS.
YOU'RE SETTING THIS UP TO
CREATE BATTLES IN THE PARTY
I THINK ARE HIGHLY
UNNECESSARY AND NOT GOING TO
BE HELPFUL.
WE'RE BEING STABBED IN
THE BACK.
THE GROUP, LISTEN TO THE
NAME OF THE SIGNS ITSELF.
THE CONSERVATIVE VICTORY
PROJECT.
SO HERE IS A PROJECT FUNDED
BY CRONY CAPITALISTS, BY
CORPORATEISTS, WHO ARE NOT
CONSERVATIVE, FUNDING A
GROUP CALLED THE
CONSERVATIVE VICTORY
PROJECT.
THIS IS THE SORT OF THING
BARACK OBAMA DOES, AND
MARKISTS DO.
THEY GIVE A NAME TO
THEMSELVES, WHICH HAS
NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT
THEY'RE REALLY UP TO, IN
ORDER TO TRY AND CONTROL THE
PROPAGANDA, TO POSITION
THEMSELVES.
OH, YOU'RE AGAINST THE
CONSERVATIVE VICTORY
PROJECT, AND THEN YOU HAVE
TO SPEND 10 MINUTES
EXPLAINING OUÍ THEY'R WHY
THE CONSERVATIVES ARE, WHY
YOU ARE.
David: IF ROVE HAD HIS
WAY, THERE WOULDN'T BE THE
LIKE OF MARCO RUBIO, TIM
SCOTT, AND RAND PAUL ALL IN
THE SENATE TODAY.
STAY TUNED TO "THE BRODY
FILE."
WE PLAN TO BRING KARL ROVE
ON THE SET BEHIND ME, ALONG
WITH FOLKS FROM THE TEA
PARTLY.
ONE OF THE BIG TEA PARTY
MEMBERS UP ON THE HILL IS
THE JUST-MENTIONED RAND
PAUL.
WE WENT UP TO CAPITOL HILL
IN FULL STALKING MODE TO
SEEK SENATOR PAUL OUT.
AND GUESS WHAT?
WE FOUND HIM IN THE RUSSELL
ROTUNDA.
WE TALKED ABOUT HIS JUST
COMPLETED TRIP TO ISRAEL,
ALONG WITH ECONOMIC MATTERS
AND IMMIGRATION REFORM,
TOO.
WHAT WERE SOME OF YOUR
IMPRESSIONS WHEN YOU WERE
OVER THERE, SPECIFICALLY?
I WENT OVER THERE TO
LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR
PROBLEMS IN THE MIDDLE EAST,
SEE IF I COULD DISCOVER HOW
TO FIX THE MIDDLE EAST.
I DIDN'T COME BACK THINKING
THAT I KNOW MORE THAN
ANYBODY ELSE ABOUT THE
MIDDLE EAST OR THINKING I
HAVE THE GRAND SOLUTION.
BUT I CAME BACK THINKING
MAYBE IF WE DIVIDE THE LARGE
PROBLEM UP INTO SMALLER
SECTIONS WE CAN HAVE CHANGES
AND SOLUTIONS.
IF YOU DIDN'T RAISE THE DEBT
CEILING, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
IS YOU WOULD IMMEDIATELY
HAVE TO START BALANCING YOUR
BUDGET.
THE GOVERNMENT WON'T SHUT
DOWN, BUT IT MEANS THAT THE
30% OF YOUR BUDGET THAT IS
OVER BUDGET,
