Gordon: INSIDE THE

FASTEST SELLING BOOK SERIES

OF ALL TIME.

SOME PEOPLE CALL IT A

LOVE STORY.

Gordon: HOW IT IS

CHANGING RELATIONSHIPS.

WOMEN ARE NATURALLY

CURIOUS.

IT TAKES SEX TO A WHOLE

OTHER LEVEL.

Gordon: ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

ON "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE,"

WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY

FOR EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE

TOPICS THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

Gordon: WELCOME TO THIS

SHOW.

WINSTON CHURCHILL ONCE SAID,

WRITING IS AN ADVENTURE, AND

YET IT IS ONE OF THE MOST

DIFFICULT AD V ADVENTURE

THAT ANY AUTHOR WILL ENDURE

BECAUSE ONLY 3% OF BOOKS

WILL EVER PUBLISHED.

Kristi: GORDON, ONE

ASPIRING BRITISH AUTHOR WAS

NOT GOING TO TAKE NO FOR AN

ANSWER.

IN 2010, SHE SELF-PUBLISHED

HER NOVEL ON HER OWN

WEBSITE.

NOW TWO YEARS LATER, "50

SHADES OF GREY," HAS SOLD

OVER 50 MILLION COPIES

WORLDWIDE.

50 SHADES BECAME THE FASTEST

SELLING PAPERBACK BOOK EVER,

BEATING OUT J.ROWLING'S

"HARRY POTTER" SERIOUS.

AND IT SOLD SIX TIMES MORE

KINDLE eBOOKS THAN PRINT

COPIES.

IN THE U.K., MORE THAN

2.75 MILLION ELECTRONIC

COPIES HAVE BEEN

DOWNLOADED.

10 MOVIE STUDIOS SPARRED FOR

THE RIGHTS, WITH UNIVERSAL

STUDIOS PAYING $5 MILLION TO

TURN IT INTO A FEATURE

FILM.

MAKE NO MISTAKE, THIS BOOK

IS PORN AIMED AT WOMEN, AND

WOMEN ARE BUYING IT IN

RECORD NUMBERS.

THE RECORD-BREAKING SALES OF

50 SHADES OF GREY HAVE LEFT

THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY

PRETTY MUCH AT A LOSS FOR

WORDS.

EXCEPT FOR SHANNON

ETHRIDGE.

SHE IS THE AUTHOR OF

"EXPOSING THE DEEPER MEANING

BEHIND SEXUAL THOUGHTS."

SHE SAYS CHRISTIAN WOMEN

NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE ROOTS

OF SEXUAL FANTASY AND HOW TO

DEAL WITH THOSE THOUGHTS IN

AN HONEST AND HEALTHY WAY.

JOINING US NOW IS SHANNON

ETHRIDGE, AUTHOR OF "THE

FANTASY FALSIE."

THEM SO MUCH FOR BEING

HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

HAVING ME ON.

Kristi: WHY IS "50

SHADES OF GREY" SUCH A HIT

AMONG NOT JUST WOMEN, BUT

CHRISTIAN WOMEN AS WELL.

THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF

SERIES, THAT WOMEN ARE MORE

SEXUALLY LIBERATED THAN

BEFORE, AND COUPLES ARE

LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO

SPICE UP THEIR SEX LIVES.

AND SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING

THAT WOMEN ARE LOOKING FOR A

MAN TO DOMINATE THEM.

I'M NOT SURE I ASCRIBE TO

ANY OF THESE PHILOSOPHIES.

I THINK MORE THAN ANYTHING,

THERE IS SUCH A VOID OF

INFORMATION IN THE CHURCH,

AND IN THE HEALTHY WORLD

THAT HOPEFULLY MOST OF US

GROW UP IN, THAT ALL OF A

SUDDEN WITH IT BEING SO

MAINSTREAM, THEY'RE JUST

CURIOUS.

WOMEN ARE NATURALLY

CURIOUS.

BUT I DON'T NECESSARILY

THINK THIS IS A HEALTHY WAY

TO GET YOUR INFORMATION.

Kristi: I THINK THE

REASON IT IS SO DETRIMENTAL

IT TAKES SEX TO A WHOLE

OTHER LEVEL.

WE ALL REMEMBER THE

HARLEQUIN NOVELS WHERE THE

PRINCE COMES IN AND SWEEPS

HER OFF HER FEET, AND IT IS

LOVE.

AND NOW IT IS GOOD OLD

FASHIONE FASHIONED

FASHIONED MASOGNY, AND

HARD-CORE SEX.

I HAD TO READ IT IN ORDER

TO WRITE A RESPONSE TO IT.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME

PEOPLE CALL IT A LOVE STORY,

BUT I UNDERSTAND WHY A LOT

OF PEOPLE CALL IT A LUST

STORY.

IT SENDS A LOT OF MIXED

MESSAGES.

MY CONCERN IS FOR THE

YOUNGER GENERATION AND WOMEN

WHO ARE MORE

IMPRESSIONABLE.

THIS IS NOT A HEALTHY

EXAMPLE OF WHAT GOD INTENDED

FOR OUR SEX LIFE TO BE.

I'VE BEEN WRITING BOOKS

ABOUT HEALTHY SEXUALITY FOR

YEARS.

"THE SEXUALLY CONFIDENT

WIFE," BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD

OF A BOOK OUT THERE THAT

TALKS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT

SEXUAL FANTASIES.

AND BECAUSE THE FANTASY

WORLD IS SUCH A BIG THING, I

THOUGHT, WE'VE GOT TO

ADDRESS THIS TOPIC.

Kristi: LET'S BE REAL.

WHY IS IT DETRIMENTAL?

WHY ARE SOME OF THE THINGS

THESE WOMEN ARE READING

DETRIMENTAL TO THE WOMEN?

WHY?

I THINK THE MORE WE FOCUS

ON FANTASY, THE MORE LUSTER

OUR REALITY LOSES.

AND THAT'S A PROBLEM.

IT MAY SPICE UP YOUR

MARRIAGE BED FOR A LITTLE

WHILE WITH THE TITILLATION,

BUT THAT'S LIKE A SHOOTING

STAR.

IT WILL BE REALLY EXCITING

FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND THEN

IT WILL FADE TO NOTHING.

SO MANY OF THE HUSBANDS ARE

TELLING ME, MY WIFE IS

READING THIS TRILOGY, AND MY

WIFE HAS ALL OF THESE

EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT SHE

WANTS ME TO DO AND I FEEL

LIKE A PUPPET.

IT IS SORT OF WHAT WOMEN

WERE SAYING FOR YEARS, AND

THEY SAID, I FEEL LIKE MY

HUSBAND WANTS ME TO BE A

PORN STAR.

AND IT'S NOT HEALTHY.

Kristi: WHAT ABOUT

SPIRITUALLY?

WHY IS IT SPIRITUALLY

DETRIMENTAL TO OUR WALK WITH

CHRIST?

I THINK WHEN WE START

LOOKING TO ANOTHER PEOPLE

AND SEXUAL ACTIVITIES TO

GIVE US A SENSE OF

FULFILLMENT AND

SATISFACTION, WE'RE ALWAYS

GOING TO GO WRONG WHEN WE

START LOOKING TO HUMAN

BEINGS TO FULFILL US.

WE HAVE TO LOOK FOR THE

AUTHOR OF SEXUALITY TO TEACH

US HOW WE'RE GOING TO FIND

OUR SEXUAL FULFILLMENT.

AND THAT'S GOD.

GOD IS THE AUTHOR OF GOD.

OBVIOUSLY GOD CELEBRATES

SEX, BUT I CAN'T FATHOM HE

CELEBRATES THE SEX WE SEE IN

BOOKS LIKE "50 SHADES OF

GREY."

I DON'T THINK GOD WANTS US

TO EXPERIENCE PAIN ALONG

WITH OUR PLEASURE.

Kristi: HERE IS THE

QUESTION FOR YOU:

PORNOGRAPHY, I READ

SOMEWHERE THAT ONE OUT OF

THREE INDIVIDUALS ARE

ADDICTED TO PORN ARE WOMEN.

WHY IS PORN SO -- I DON'T

KNOW, SO REAL OR NOT REAL?

MEN AREN'T THE ONLY ONES

WHO ARE VISUALLY STIMULATED,

AND WOMEN ARE AS WELL.

AND THIS YOUNGER GENERATION,

WHO HAS GROWN UP WITH THE

INTERNET AND PORNOGRAPHY AT

THEIR FINGERTIPS, THEY ARE

CERTAINLY SHOWING US THEY'RE

VERY ADDICTED.

ONE OF MY COACHING CLIENTS

WAS A MOM WHO BROUGHT HER

12-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER TO ME

WHO SHE CAUGHT LOOKING AT

PORNOGRAPHY NUMEROUS TIMES

SINCE SHE WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS

OLD.

AS I DID SOME WORK WITH THIS

FAMILY, WHAT I LEARNED IS

THAT HER MOM -- HER FATHER

HAD BEEN KILLED IN A TRAGIC

BOATING ACCIDENT.

AND HER MOM HAD REALLY

EMOTIONALLY WITHDRAWN.

AND THE SCENARIOS THAT THIS

GIRL WAS SEEKING OUT IN

PORNOGRAPHIC SCENES ON THE

INTERNET -- THEY WEREN'T SEX

SCENES BETWEEN A MAN AND A

WOMAN.

THEY WERE JUST IMAGES OF

WOMEN EXPERIENCING PLEASURE

THEMSELVES.

WHAT WE FIGURED OUT IS THIS

WAS HER WAY OF MEDICATING

HER EMOTIONAL PAIN OF SEEING

HER MOTHER CARRY AROUND SO

MUCH PAIN, AND BEING SO

EMOTIONALLY WITHDRAWN.

ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO WALK

THROUGH SOME OF THAT WITH

HER MOM, AND HELP HER

UNDERSTAND SHE NEEDED TO GET

SOME HEALING FOR HER

HUSBAND'S DEATH, THEN HER

DAUGHTER AND HAD WERE ABLE

TO RECONNECT.

WHAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND

IS WE SEARCH FOR SEX, AND

WHAT WE'RE -- WE'RE SURFING

FOR SEX, BUT WHAT WE'RE

REALLY SEARCHING FOR IS GOD

AND A DEEPER EMOTIONAL

CONNECTION WITH ANOTHER

HUMAN BEING.

THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING

WE'RE GOING TO FIND ON

LINE.

THAT'S TO MEDICATE OUR

EMOTIONAL PAIN.

Kristi: I DIDN'T MEAN

TO INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I LOVE

THE FACT THAT YOU HIT THAT

POINT.

WE KNOW THAT MEN ARE MORE

VISUAL, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO

FANTASY AND THINGS OF THAT

SORT, WOMEN ARE SEARCHING TO

FULFILL THAT NEED IN THEIR

HEART, THE FANTASY OF IT.

ONE THING WE DIDN'T ADDRESS

IS FANTASY.

IS FANTASY RIGHT OR WRONG?

AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO

FANTASIZE?

CHRISTIANS HEAR THAT WORD

AND IT IS ALMOST MORE TABOO

THAN THE WORD SEX.

FANTASIES ARE A SERIES OF

THOUGHTS THAT MEET A

PSYCHOLOGICAL NEED.

IT IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL

CONSCIOUS, IF YOU THINK

FANTASY IS APPROPRIATE FOR

NOT.

IN THE COUPLES I

INTERVIEWED, FANTASY SERVES

A PURPOSE.

OLDER COUPLES FANTASIZE

ABOUT WHAT SEX USED TO BE

WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER

YOUNGER.

WE CAN USE FANTASY TO SPICE

UP OUR SEX LIFE TO IMAGINE

WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO FOR

ONE ANOTHER.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A REASON

WHY GOD WIRED OUR BRAINS IN

SUCH A WAY THAT WE

EXPERIENCE FANTASY.

IT IS A VERY NATURAL, AND

CAN BE A VERY HELPFUL PART

OF OUR SEXUALITY.

BUT, OF COURSE, IT CAN

BECOME VERY UNHEALTHY WHEN

WE TAKE IT IN A DIRECTION

THAT CROSSES THE LINE, AND

WHEN WE START LOOKING

OUTSIDE OF OUR MARRIAGE BED

FOR A SENSE OF FULFILLMENT.

Kristi: SHANNON, WE

ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE SOME

SORT OF RESOLUTION.

WHAT CAN WE DO TO ENCOURAGE

A YOUNG GIRL, A MOM OUT

THERE, WHO -- I DON'T WANT

TO SAY ADDICTED, BUT REALLY

DRAWN TO THE BOOK SERIES AND

REALLY DRAWN TO THESE BOOK

FANTASIES.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THAT

PERSON TO ENCOURAGE THEM?

WHAT I WANTED PEOPLE TO

GET FROM THE FANTASY FALOGY,

IS THAT SEXUAL FANTASIES IS

THE BRAIN'S WAY OF TRYING TO

HEAL ITSELF FROM PAST

EMOTIONAL TRAUMATIC.

IT IS NOT A ROADMAP TO

FUTURE SEXUAL FULFILLMENT.

IT IS NOT THAT WE HAVE TO

MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN

ORDER TO BE SEXUALLY

SATISFIED.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE HERO

AND THE HEROINE IN THIS

STORY, IN THE "50 SHADES"

THAT'S DEFINITELY THE POINT

SHE IS TRYING TO MAKE.

THE REASON HE WANTS TO BRING

PAIN ON HIS GIRLFRIEND, IS

BECAUSE HE WAS PAINED AS A

CHILD.

I JUST WANT TO WARN PEOPLE,

IF YOU ARE THINKING THAT

ACTING OUT CERTAINLY SEXUAL

FANTASIES ARE GOING TO BE

WHAT FULFILLS YOU, SO MANY

WOMEN AND MEN TOLD ME THEY

TRIED THAT, AND THEY WOUND

UP EXPERIENCING MORE PAIN

THAN THEY HAD BEFORE.

AND NOW IT IS CONFUSED WITH

A SENSE OF GUILT AND SHAME

AND DEGRADATION.

AND IT ULTIMATELY BROUGHT

MORE PAIN INTO THAT

RELATIONSHIP THAN THERE WAS

EVEN BEFORE.

Kristi: INCREDIBLE.

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS: WE

HAVE TO HAVE OUR HEART AND

MIND IN JESUS CHRIST.

EVERYTHING WE LAY OUR EYES

ON HAS TO BE HONORABLE TO

THE LORD AND PLEASING TO

HIM.

SHANNON, THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR BEING HERE WITH US.

SHANNON BOOK IS CALLED "THE

FANTASY FALOSY."

INCREDIBLE, GORDON.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

Gordon: INCREDIBLE.

YOU LOOK AT THE PHENOMENON,

AND I HAVEN'T READ THE

BOOKS, BUT I DID READ A

SUMMATION OF IT BEFORE THE

SHOW, AND YOU GE GO,

REALLY, 40 MILLION OF THAT

WAS SOLD.

AND I'M UNDERSTANDING WHY

THE AUTHOR COULDN'T FIND A

PUBLISHER.

IT WAS SO EDGY.

AND NOW CHRISTIAN GROUPS ARE

SAYING, HAVE YOU READ THIS?

AND I'M GOING, WHY?

WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO GO

INTO THIS?

JUST FROM THE SUMMATION, THE

FIRST DATE OF THIS COUPLE IS

IN THE HARDWARE STORE.

I'M GOING, HUH?

Kristi: YEAH.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I THINK THE ESSENCE OF IT,

GORDON, WHICH IS WHAT WE

TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE, AND

TOUCHED UPON IN THE

INTERVIEW, IT IS

DETRIMENTAL.

JUST LIKE PORNOGRAPHY IS

DETRIMENTAL TO THE MAN OR

WOMAN.

ESPECIALLY MEN.

THEY GET ADDICTED AND THE

IMAGES ARE CONSTANTLY

REPLAYING IN THEIR MIND AND

IT STARTS TO WOUND AND HURT

THEIR SOUL AND THEIR

RELATIONS AND THEIR SPIRIT.

I FEEL LIKE IT IS THE SAME

THING WHEN A WOMAN READS

THESE BOOKS.

BECAUSE NOT ONLY ARE THESE

IMAGES IN A WOMAN'S MIND, IT

AFFECTS THE WAY SHE RESPONDS

TO MALES --

Gordon: THE MAJORITY OF

READERS SEEM TO BE WOMEN, IF

THE STATS ARE RIGHT.

YOU WERE HIDDEN ON IT, YOU

CALLED IT OLD FASHION THE

MASOGONY.

WHY WOULD WOMEN WANT TO HAVE

A FANTASY OF MALE

DOMINATION?

WHAT IS THAT?

Kristi: I DON'T KNOW.

Gordon: IT DOESN'T

HAPPEN WITH YOU?

Kristi: NO.

I'VE GOT TO BE HONEST WITH

YOU, THE BOOK SERIES HAS

NEVER BEEN ENTICING TO ME.

WHY WOULD I WANT TO READ

THAT?

Gordon: WHY PUT THAT IN

YOUR MIND?

Kristi: THAT'S THE

ESSENCE OF IT, WHY PUT THAT

IN OUR MIND.

THE LORD TALKS ABOUT HOW WE

HAVE TO GUIDE OUR HEART AND

OUR MIND.

GOD WANTS US TO PRESERVE OUR

HEART AND MIND FOR A REASON,

SO THAT WE DON'T TAKE IN

THOSE TOXINS BECAUSE IT IS

DETRIMENTAL TO OUR SOUL AND

OUR SPIRIT.

YEAH.

Gordon: YEAH.

I'LL TELL YOU ANOTHER

TAKE-AWAY FROM THE

INTERVIEW, AND I REALLY WANT

TO IMPRESS THIS UPON PEOPLE,

IF YOU PUT THESE FANTASIES

INTO ACTION, YOU'LL FIND A

VERY DARK PLACE.

Kristi: THAT'S GOOD.

Gordon: SHE IS SAYING

SHE TALKED TO MEN AND WOMEN

WHO HAVE DONE IT AND HAVE

ACTED IT OUT, AND THEY CAME

TO A PLACE OF DEGRADATION.

SO KEEP YOURSELF FROM THAT.

YOU DON'T WANT THAT.

IT ACTUALLY MAGNIFIES THE

PAIN.

AND MAKES IT WORSE.

IF YOU REALLY WANT EMOTIONAL

HEALING IN YOUR LIFE, TURN

TO THE ONE SOURCE THAT CAN

GIVE IT TO YOU, AND THAT IS

YOUR MAKER, WHO LOVES YOU

UNCONDITIONALLY, AND WANTS

TO AFFIRM YOU, NOT JUST AS

HIS CHILD, BUT FOR WHAT YOU

CAN BECOME.

THAT HE WANTS TO MAKE YOU

PART OF HIS ROYAL HOUSEHOLD

AND WANTS TO GIVE YOU

DIGNITY.

WANTS TO GIVE YOU A

PURPOSE.

AND WILL NEVER SHAME YOU,

AND NEVER PUT YOU DOWN.

WANTS TO ENCOURAGE YOU AND

LIFT YOU UP, SEATTLE YOU

SEAT YOU WITH HIM IN HIGH

PLACES, IN HEAVENLY PLACES.

REALIZE THAT AND TURN TO

THAT.

THAT'S THE SOURCE.

COMING UP, A YOUNG GIRL IS

PUT UP FOR SALE BY HER

RELATIVES.

FIND OUT HOW SHE WAS RESCUED

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Gordon: IT SEEMS

UNIMAGINABLE THAT ANY WOMAN

WERE EVER WANT TO SELL A

CHILD, BUT FOR THOUSANDS OF

CHILDREN WORLDWIDE, THIS IS

THEIR REALITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE

YOU TO ANYA.

SHE WAS ABOUT TO BE ONE OF

THOSE STATISTICS, UNTIL

PEOPLE LIKE YOU MADE IT

RESPONSIBL POSSIBLE FOR HER

RESCUE.

THIS IS HER STORY.

MAMA USED TO CALL ME HER

LITTLE PRINCESS.

SHE SAID ONE DAY SHE WOULD

BUY ME A PRETTY DRESS, A

PRINCESS DRESS.

[YELLING]

ONE DAY THE POLICEMAN

CAME AND TOOK MY MOM AWAY.

THEY SAID SHE STOLE

SOMETHING.

I KNEW SHE DIDN'T MEAN TO.

NOW I HAVE TO LIVE WITH MY

AUNT.

SHE YELLS AT ME A LOT.

SOMETIMES I IMAGINE BEING

MAMA'S LITTLE PRINCESS.

I WISH I COULD BE A

BETTER LITTLE GIRL SO SHE

WOULD LOVE ME MORE.

THIS IS MY NEW HOME.

THE KIDS HERE ARE REALLY

NICE.

THAT HAD A PARTY, AND I WORE

MY BRAND NEW DRESS.

IT WAS LIKE A REAL BALL.

TODAY I FEEL LIKE A

PRINCESS.

Gordon: PALMS SAYS, HE

LOVES TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM

THE ASH HEAP AND SET THEM TO

A PRINCESS.

HERE FROM THE ASH HEAP TO A

PRINCESS, ALL BECAUSE PEOPLE

LIKE YOU CARED ENOUGH TO

GIVE.

IF THAT'S YOU, IF YOU WANT

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WE'RE IN MORE THAN 50

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KRISTI?

Kristi: THANK YOU,

GORDON.

STILL AHEAD, ONE TEENAGER

DOESN'T WANT TO GO TO CAMP.

WHY?

BECAUSE SHE SAYS THERE IS

NOT GOING TO BE ANY PORN.

H'MMM, FIND OUT WHAT CHANGED

HER UP NEXT.

Gordon: EVERY YEAR,

72 MILLION AMERICANS VIEW

PORN ON THE INTERNET.

AND WHILE MANY EXPECT THAT

MOST OF THESE ARE MEN,

NEARLY A THIRD ARE WOMEN,

LIKE THE ONE YOU'RE ABOUT TO

MEET.

I FELT TWO VERY DIFFERENT

FEELINGS AT THE SAME TIME.

ONE OF SHAME, AND THEN

MOLESTLY WIT IMMEDIATELY

WITH THAT, I FELT AN ODD

SENSE OF SATISFACTION, LIKE

THE FULFILLING IN ME THAT

WAS A VOID.

ONE DAY AFTER SCHOOL I FOUND

IN MY BROTHER'S BATHROOM A

PORNOGRAPHIC MAGAZINE.

IT WAS LIKE NOTHING I HAD

EVER SEEN BEFORE.

I WAS ALMOST SCARED.

LIKE, AM I TO LOOK AT THIS?

I WAS CURIOUS.

AND I OPENED THE MAGAZINE

UP, AND IN THAT ONE

PARTICULAR MOMENT, I WAS

KIND OF THRUSTED INTO SEX ED

IN A WAY THAT NO CHILD

SHOULD EVER BE INTRODUCED.

AND IT BEGAN AT ALMOST THE

AGE OF 10.

BUT I KNEW I NEEDED TO FIND

MORE OF THIS.

I BEGAN TO LOOK AROUND MY

HOUSE A LITTLE BIT, LIKE, IS

THERE ANYTHING HERE THAT

COULD GIVE ME THAT SAME KIND

OF HIGH, THAT SAME KIND OF

CHARGE THAT THAT MAGAZINE

DID.

I KNEW MY DAD HAD MOVIES HE

SAID I COULDN'T WATCH.

SO AFTER SCHOOL ONE DAY, I

BEGAN TO RAID HIS MOVIE

CABINET.

AND WOULD FAST FORWARD TO

THOSE MOVIES, TO ANY SEX

SCENE, ADULT SCENE, THAT I

COULD FIND.

BUT THAT WASN'T ENOUGH

EITHER.

AT ABOUT AGE 13, MY SCHOOL

HAD INTERNET, AND SO I WOULD

STAY AFTER SCHOOL.

I WOULD LOOK UP NAKED

PEOPLE, OR SEX, OR WHATEVER

WORDS I ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT

THE TERMS WERE FOR.

AND SOON AFTER THAT,

CYBER-SEX LED TO PHONE SEX.

WHEN I WAS 16, I BEGAN GOING

TO CHURCH WITH MY MOM.

AND I WAS GIVEN THE

OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO SUMMER

CAMP.

I WAS ACTUALLY TERRIFIED

ABOUT GOING TO CAMP.

IT MEANT FIVE DAYS WITHOUT

THOSE THINGS THAT I HAD BEEN

LIVING WITH AND LIVING FOR.

BUT SOMEHOW, SOME WAY, I

MADE THAT DECISION TO GO.

ONE NIGHT AT THE CAMP, THE

PASTOR SAID, YOU HAVE A

FATHER IN HEAVEN WHO LOVES

YOU, AND WHO LOVES YOU

UNCONDITIONALLY.

AND TO ME, THE IDEA OF

HAVING A FATHER WHO IS

ALWAYS AVAILABLE, ALWAYS

THERE FOR ME, A COMFORTER,

AND WHO LOVES ME

UNCONDITIONALLY, IS

SOMETHING I REALLY WANTED TO

SIGN UP FOR.

AND SO THAT NIGHT AT CAMP I

ACCEPTED CHRIST AS MY LORD

AND SAVIOR, BUT MY ADDICTION

DID NOT LEAVE ME.

WHEN I GOT HOME, EVEN THOUGH

I HAD MADE THAT DECISION TO

FOLLOW CHRIST, I WENT

IMMEDIATELY BACK INTO MY OLD

ROUTINE.

EVEN MORE SO.

AND THIS TIME WITH EVEN MORE

SHAME, AND NOW WITH A TON OF

CONVICTION THAT I HAD NEVER

FELT BEFORE.

BUT IT WOULD BE TWO YEARS

BEFORE I WOULD HIT ROCK

BOTTOM.

I, UM, WAS IN A HOTEL ROOM,

WAITING FOR A PERSON TO

ARRIVE, WHO I HAD ARRANGED

AN ANONYMOUS ENCOUNTER WITH

ON THE INTERNET.

IT'S FREEZING COLD.

I'M SHAKING, JUST THINKING,

HOW DID I GET HERE?

HOW DID I GET TO THIS POINT

THAT THINGS ARE SO

DETRIMENTAL, SO DESTRUCTIVE,

THAT I'M ALLOWING MYSELF TO

BE PUT AT RISK BY SOMEBODY I

DON'T EVEN KNOW IN ORDER TO

FULFILL THIS HIGH THAT I'M

AFTER?

AND IN THAT MOMENT GOD JUST

MET ME THERE.

I HEARD HIS VOICE AUDIBLY

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY

LIFE.

AND HE SAID TO ME, CRYSTAL,

I HAVE SO MUCH MORE FOR YOU

THAN THIS LIFE YOU'RE

LIVING.

TRUST ME AND GIVE THIS TO ME

RIGHT NOW.

AND IN THAT SAME MOMENT,

THERE WAS SOMEBODY AT THE

DOOR KNOCKING, AND I KNOW

WHO IT IS.

AND I KNOW THAT I HAVE A

CHOICE TO MAKE IN THAT

MOMENT.

EITHER TRUST GOD AND ALLOW

HIM TO TAKE THIS FROM ME OR

OPEN THE DOOR AND GIVE

MYSELF AWAY.

I MADE THE CHOICE TO TRUST

GOD AND JUST SURRENDER IN

THAT MOMENT, AND SAY, LORD,

IF YOU'RE REALLY HERE, THEN

TAKE THIS FROM ME.

GIVE ME A WAY OUT.

AND HE DID.

THE PERSON AT THE DOOR

LEFT.

AND SOON AFTER I DID AS

WELL.

I STILL DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO

COME CLEAN.

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO BREAK

FREE FROM THIS BY MYSELF.

SO I JUST PRAYED, GOD,

PLEASE BRING SOMEBODY INTO

MY LIFE WHO I CAN TELL THIS

TO, OR WHO WILL TELL ME

SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

BECAUSE AT THAT TIME, I FELT

LIKE I WAS THE ONLY ONE IN

THE WORLD, THE ONLY FEMALE

IN THE WORLD, THAT COULD

POSSIBLY BE STRUGGLING WITH

PORNOGRAPHY.

ONE WEEK LATER I WAS AT A

CONCERT, WHEN I CAME ACROSS

A WOMAN I HAD ONLY KNOWN AS

AN ACQUAINTANCE BEFORE

THIS.

WE SHARED OUR LIVES WITH ONE

ANOTHER.

SHE SAID TO ME, CRYSTAL, I

USED TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH

PORNOGRAPHY.

AND I WAS ABLE TO FIND

FREEDOM FROM THAT.

I FOUND VICTORY IN THAT.

AND YOU COULD PROBABLY SEE

MY FACE TURN EVERY WHITER

THAN IT ALREADY IS, AND I

SAID, ME, TOO.

AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON, I

WAS ENGAGED IN AN

ACCOUNTABLE RELATIONSHIP

WITH HER.

BUT NOT ONLY WITH HER, BUT

WITH GOD.

FULLY SURRENDERING, NOT JUST

THE BEHAVIORS I WAS INVOLVED

IN, BUT THE LONGINGS OF MY

HEART TO HIM.

AND I'M NOW SEVEN AND A HALF

YEARS SOBIBOR SOBER, AND

I'M THANKFUL EVERY DAY THAT

GOD MEETS YOU IN THE DARKEST

PLACES, IN THE HARDEST

PLACES, AND HE DOES PROVIDE

YOU A WAY OUT.

AND HE DOES PROVIDE YOU WITH

HELP AND HOPE.

Gordon: HE WILL DO THE

SAME THING FOR YOU.

IF YOU JUST TRUST HIM.

IF YOU JUST LET HIM.

NOW WHAT CRYSTAL WENT

THROUGH AND WHAT SHE IS

DESCRIBING, IT MAKES IT

SOUND LIKE PORNOGRAPHY IS A

DRUG.

AND WHAT SCIENTISTS ARE

TELLING US NOW IS THAT IT

IS.

THAT THE MERE ACT OF VIEWING

THE IMAGINARY LEASES A

COCAINE-LIKE HIGH IN YOUR

BRAIN.

AND YOU GET ADDICTED TO

THAT.

AND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT

HIGH.

AND THEN BECAUSE YOU'VE

SATURATED YOUR BRAIN WITH

THE IMAGES, YOU THEN HAVE TO

ACT IT OUT.

AND HERE IS CRYSTAL, ALL

ALONE IN A HOTEL ROOM, AND

SHE IS WAITING FOR THE

HIGH.

AND IN THAT GOD SPEAKS TO

HER AND SAYS, CRYSTAL, I

HAVE SO MUCH MORE FOR YOU.

IF YOU JUST LET ME.

IF YOU JUST LET ME.

THE FIRST THING IN

OVERCOMING ANY ADDICTION IS

TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS

A GOD WHO CAN RESTORE YOU.

WHO CAN LITERALLY REWIRE

YOUR BRAIN SO NO LONGER DO

YOU EVEN HAVE THE DESIRE FOR

IT.

SO PRAY THE SAME PRAYER

CRYSTAL PRAYED.

WHERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT

TEMPTATION, SHE SAID, JESUS,

IF YOU'RE THERE, COULD YOU

SAVE ME?

COULD YOU HEAL ME?

COULD YOU DELIVER ME FROM

THIS?

AND YOU'LL FIND THAT HE'LL

ANSWER THAT.

IT IS THAT PRAYER FROM THE

DEPTHS OF YOUR BEING.

WHERE YOU'RE NOT PLAYING

GAMES, YOU'RE NOT SAYING,

OKAY, I NEED TO BE

TEMPORARILY OUT OF TROUBLE

SO I CAN GO BACK TO MY

ADDICTION.

NO.

IT'S WHEN YOU REALLY MEAN IT

WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART.

IF YOU WANT SOMEONE TO PRAY

WITH YOU, WE'RE HERE FOR

YOU, AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOU

24 HOURS A DAY.

SO IF THERE IS ANY NEED IN

YOUR LIFE FOR PRAYER, CALL

US.

THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.

1-888-777-1999.

JUST SAY, I NEED PRAYER.

I NEED HELP.

I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF

TEMPTATION.

WILL YOU PRAY WITH ME?

AND WE'LL BE HERE FOR YOU.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM HEBREWS: "LET US

THEREFORE COME BOLDLY TO THE

THRONE OF GRACE THAT WE MAY

OBTAIN MERCY AND FIND GRACE

TO HELP IN TIME OF NEED."

GOD BLESS YOU.

David: THIS WEEK ON

"THE BRODY FILE," OH, BOY,

GET READY.

IT'S A CIVIL WAR BATTLE

WITHIN THE G.O.P., THE

CHUCKLEHEADS VERSUS THE

KNUCKLEHEADS.

THE TEA PARTY IS HOPPING MAD

WITH KARL ROVE.

WE HAVE THE DETAILS.

ALSO, ONE-ON-ONE, UP ON THE

HILL WITH ONE OF THE LEADERS

OF THE TEA PARTY, SENATOR

RAND PAUL.

IT IS DISENGINE WU DISIN

INGENUS OF THE POLITICIANS

TO CARE PEOPLE.

David: DANA BASH,

TALKING ABOUT HER JEWISH

UPBRINGING.

YOU GO TO SYNAGOGUE, AND

IF YOU GO TO JEWISH SUMMER

CAMP, WHICH I DID, YOU LEARN

ABOUT THIS FOUNDATION OF

JUDAISM, AND THAT IS MAKING

SURE YOUR KIDS LEARN.

David: PLUS, GERALD AS

THE U.S. SENATOR?

OY-GEVALT.

"THE BRODY FILE" IS NEXT.

*

David: AND WELCOME,

EVERYBODY, TO "THE BRODY

FILE."

LET ME SAY HERE AT THE TOP,

WE HAVE A FIGHT BREWING.

THIS IS WORSE THAN TOM AND

JERRY FIGHTING.

ACTUALLY, WORSE THAN NANCY

AND TONYA AS WELL.

AND IT IS WORSE THAN EVEN

JOAN COLLINS AND LINDA EVANS

IN DYNASTY.

*

*

David: LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, THAT FIGHT MIGHT

BE NASTY, BUT THAT IS

NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT IS

ABOUT TO TRANSPIRE BETWEEN

THE CHUCKLEHEADS AND THE

KNUCKLEHEADS.

SO HERE IS THE BACKDROP,

MANY G.O.P. ESTABLISHMENT

TYPES THINK THAT THE TEA

PARTY IS MESSING THINGS UP

FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THAT THE TEA PARTY IS MADE

UP OF STUBBORN, ULTRA

CONSERVATIVE CHUCKLEHEADS,

WHO NEED TO STOP MUCKING UP

SENATE RACES AND LEGISLATION

ON CAPITOL HILL.

HOWEVER, THE TEA PARTY

THINKS MANY IN THE G.O.P.

ESTABLISHMENT ARE A BUNCH OF

KNUCKLEHEADS WHO WANT TO

JUST WIN ELECTIONS WITH

WISHY-WASHY CONSERVATIVES.

AND NOW THIS, KARL ROVE AND

HIS ESTABLISHMENT BUDDIES

ARE SETTING UP A SUPER PACT

CALLED THE CONSERVATIVE

VICTORY PROJECT.

THE GOAL TO FUND THE MOST "

ELECTABLE" REPUBLICAN

CANDIDATES.

THEY THINK ROVE AND HIS

COLLEAGUES ARE TRYING TO

BULLY TEA PARTY

CONSERVATIVES OUT OF PRIMARY

RACES.

THE THEORY IS THAT ROVE AND

HIS NEW SUPER PACK WILL BACK

POSSIBLY MORE

MODERATE-LEANING REPUBLICANS

ALL IN AN ATTEMPT TO WIN

MORE SEATS ON THE HILL FOR

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

BUT AT WHAT COST?

WOULD THE G.O.P. NO LONGER

TRULY STAND FOR

CONSTITUTIONALLY

CONSERVATIVE PRINCIPLES?

THE WAR IS ON.

IF THIS GROUP IS GOING TO

BE PICKING AND CHOOSING OUR

CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES,

WOULD THEY HAVE PICKED DICK

LUGER IN HIS PRIMARY RACE

OVER THE CHOICE OF THE LOCAL

VOTERS.

YOU'RE SETTING THIS UP TO

CREATE BATTLES IN THE PARTY

I THINK ARE HIGHLY

UNNECESSARY AND NOT GOING TO

BE HELPFUL.

WE'RE BEING STABBED IN

THE BACK.

THE GROUP, LISTEN TO THE

NAME OF THE SIGNS ITSELF.

THE CONSERVATIVE VICTORY

PROJECT.

SO HERE IS A PROJECT FUNDED

BY CRONY CAPITALISTS, BY

CORPORATEISTS, WHO ARE NOT

CONSERVATIVE, FUNDING A

GROUP CALLED THE

CONSERVATIVE VICTORY

PROJECT.

THIS IS THE SORT OF THING

BARACK OBAMA DOES, AND

MARKISTS DO.

THEY GIVE A NAME TO

THEMSELVES, WHICH HAS

NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT

THEY'RE REALLY UP TO, IN

ORDER TO TRY AND CONTROL THE

PROPAGANDA, TO POSITION

THEMSELVES.

OH, YOU'RE AGAINST THE

CONSERVATIVE VICTORY

PROJECT, AND THEN YOU HAVE

TO SPEND 10 MINUTES

EXPLAINING OUÍ THEY'R WHY

THE CONSERVATIVES ARE, WHY

YOU ARE.

David: IF ROVE HAD HIS

WAY, THERE WOULDN'T BE THE

LIKE OF MARCO RUBIO, TIM

SCOTT, AND RAND PAUL ALL IN

THE SENATE TODAY.

STAY TUNED TO "THE BRODY

FILE."

WE PLAN TO BRING KARL ROVE

ON THE SET BEHIND ME, ALONG

WITH FOLKS FROM THE TEA

PARTLY.

ONE OF THE BIG TEA PARTY

MEMBERS UP ON THE HILL IS

THE JUST-MENTIONED RAND

PAUL.

WE WENT UP TO CAPITOL HILL

IN FULL STALKING MODE TO

SEEK SENATOR PAUL OUT.

AND GUESS WHAT?

WE FOUND HIM IN THE RUSSELL

ROTUNDA.

WE TALKED ABOUT HIS JUST

COMPLETED TRIP TO ISRAEL,

ALONG WITH ECONOMIC MATTERS

AND IMMIGRATION REFORM,

TOO.

WHAT WERE SOME OF YOUR

IMPRESSIONS WHEN YOU WERE

OVER THERE, SPECIFICALLY?

I WENT OVER THERE TO

LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR

PROBLEMS IN THE MIDDLE EAST,

SEE IF I COULD DISCOVER HOW

TO FIX THE MIDDLE EAST.

I DIDN'T COME BACK THINKING

THAT I KNOW MORE THAN

ANYBODY ELSE ABOUT THE

MIDDLE EAST OR THINKING I

HAVE THE GRAND SOLUTION.

BUT I CAME BACK THINKING

MAYBE IF WE DIVIDE THE LARGE

PROBLEM UP INTO SMALLER

SECTIONS WE CAN HAVE CHANGES

AND SOLUTIONS.

IF YOU DIDN'T RAISE THE DEBT

CEILING, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

IS YOU WOULD IMMEDIATELY

HAVE TO START BALANCING YOUR

BUDGET.

THE GOVERNMENT WON'T SHUT

DOWN, BUT IT MEANS THAT THE

30% OF YOUR BUDGET THAT IS

OVER BUDGET,