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The 700 Club - March 14, 2013

World-renowned neurosurgeon Ben Carson encourages Americans to stop demonizing one another along party lines. Plus, when Chris admitted his pornography addiction to his wife Cindy, she made the tough decision to stay. Read Transcript


Lee: THE PRAYER THAT

WENT VIRAL.

NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT

THAT.

Lee: AND TURNED ONE DOC

INTO A HERO.

DR. BEN CARSON TELLS US WHY

HE WENT OFF-SCRIPT AND

SHARES HIS PRESCRIPTION FOR

OBAMACARE.

PLUS, A SHOCKING EXPOSE INTO

AMERICA'S TOP UNIVERSITIES,

WHERE THE PROFESSORS ARE

PORN STARS, AND YOU WON'T

BELIEVE WHAT IS IN THE

LESSON PLAN.

AUTHOR NATHAN HARDEN DISHES

THE DIRT IN HIS BOOK "SEX

AND GOD AT YALE," ON TODAY'S

"THE 700 CLUB."

*

[APPLAUSE]

Pat: WELCOME TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 1300

YEARS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

HAS ELECTED A NON-EUROPEAN

AS POPE.

AND HE IS FROM

LATIN-AMERICA.

AND HE'S -- WELL, WE'LL SEE

HOW IT WORKS OUT, BUT FROM

ALL INDICATIONS, HE IS A

HUMBLE, WONDERFUL MAN.

AND WE HAVE SOME TESTIMONY

FROM SOMEBODY WHO KNEW HIM

VERY WELL IN BUENOS AIRES.

Terry: THAT IS PRETTY

EXCITING.

CARDINAL JORGE BERGOGLIO

FROM ARGENTINA IS NOW POPE

FRANCIS.

Reporter: THE ELECTION

OF POPE FRANCIS I IS A

SERIES OF FIRST.

THE FIRST MODERN EUROPEAN

POPE, THE FIRST FROM THE JES

JESUIT POPE.

CBN SPOKE TO LOUIS PALAL,

WHO MET THE POPE SEVERAL

TIMES.

THE MOST SURPRISING THING

TO ME IS HE IS A GREAT

FRIEND OF THE EVANGELICALS.

HE IS A FRIEND.

I WAS SO IMPRESSED THAT HE

REALLY DOES KNOW JESUS

CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR.

I SAY IT CAREFULLY BECAUSE

THE WAY HE PRAYED IS A

PRAYER OF A CHILD OF GOD

SPEAKING TO HIS HEAVENLY

FATHER.

Lee: ON THE SECOND DAY

OF HIS CONCLAVE, HIS

ELECTION HAD PEOPLE WAITING

AND WATCHING.

WE'RE HERE AT ST. PETER'S

SQUARE, AND THE SMOKE WENT

OUT FROM THE SISTINE CHAPEL,

AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY WHITE.

THE CROWD IS ESTATIC.

Reporter: YOU CAN HEAR

THE BELLS OF ST. PETER'S

RINGING, AND CONFIRMED THAT

THE SMOKE WAS WHITE.

SOMETIMES THERE IS A

QUESTION MARK.

THERE IS A NEW POPE.

WE HAVE A POPE.

ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, THE

WORLD MET POPE FRANCIS.

THOUSANDS HAVE FLOCKED TO

THE SQUARE ITSELF.

AND THOUSANDS MORE CAME WHEN

THE WHITE SMOKE CAME OUT OF

THE SISTINE CHAPEL.

AND NOW HE IS MAKING HIS

FIRST ADDRESS TO THE WORLD.

Reporter: ONE OF HIS

FIRST ACTS AS POPE WAS A

PRAYER REQUEST, THAT THE

PEOPLE WOULD PRAY A SILENT

PRAYER FOR HIM.

MANY LATINOS IN THE CROWD

SAID GET READY FOR A

LATIN-AMERICAN POPE.

AS I HEARD POPE FRANCIS

GIVING HIS FINAL BLESSING

AND HIS FINAL GOOD-BYE, YOU

COULD SENSE THE SOUTH

AMERICAN FLAVOR, THAT IS

VERY UNIQUE.

YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT YOU

FEEL.

THIS IS LIKE PEOPLE FROM

YOUR BLOOD, PEOPLE -- HE

UNDERSTANDS.

YOU CAN TRUST ME.

THIS GENTLEMAN IS GOING TO

DO SO WELL.

THE POPE WE HAVE TODAY IS A

SIGNAL OF WHAT WE ARE GOING

TO EXPERIENCE IN THESE

DAYS.

A FRIEND OF THE PEOPLE.

Lee: NOW POPE FRANCIS

FACES THE DAUNTING TASK OF

LEAVING THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH.

MANY CATHOLICS ARE

REDISCOVERING THE GREAT

COMMISSION.

THE CRITICAL ASPECT OF

THAT IS THIS MANDATE WE HAVE

TO SHARE THE GOSPEL, NOT

JUST LIVE THE GOSPEL.

AND EVANGELICALS DO THAT A

LOT BETTER THAN CATHOLICS

DO.

AND SO THAT OAT'S A HUGE

PART OF IT.

KNOWING YOUR FAITH, LIVING

YOUR FAITH, AND SHARING IT.

BECAUSE IF YOU BELIEVE IT IS

TRUE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU SHARE

IT.

Reporter: AND MANY HOPE

POPE FRANCIS WILL HELP

SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS OF

JESUS TO THE WORLD.

ST. PETER'S SQUARE, VATICAN

CITY.

Pat: HE STARTS OUT WITH

AN ENORMOUS SENSE OF

GOODWILL.

WE SHARE IN THE BLESSING AND

THE GOODWILL.

THE STRONG STANCE THAT THE

CATHOLIC CHURCH TAKES IN

RELATION TO MORALITY AND

TRADITIONAL VALUES, AND I

THINK THAT THIS POPE IS

GOING TO BE LOVED.

BUT THEY KEEP PUTTING IN

OLDER GUYS.

HE IS 76, AND HE IS NOT

GOING TO LIVE A LONG TIME.

YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD

FIND SOMEBODY IN THEIR

50s, THAT HAS 20 OR 25

YEARS, BUT THEY DON'T.

Terry: WELL, YOU CAN DO

A LOT IF YOU'RE

CONDITIONED.

Pat: THE POWER OF ALL

OF THAT MACHINERY BEHIND

YOU, YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH A

GREAT DEAL.

I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU A

MAN WHO WENT FROM BEING ONE

OF THE MOST FAMOUS SURGEONS

IN THE COUNTRY TO ONE OF THE

HOTTEST NAMES IN POLITICS.

JUST ONE SPEECH DID IT.

AND NOW HE IS A FEATURED

SPEAKER AT THE CONSERVATIVE

POLITICAL ACTION CONFERENCE

IN WASHINGTON, WHICH STARTS

TODAY.

JENNIFER WISHON TELLS US

DR. BEN CARSON IS SAYING --

WELL, WHAT HE IS GOING TO BE

SAYING TO POLITICAL LEADERS

AND TO AMERICA.

Reporter: HE'S KNOWN

AROUND THE WORLD FOR HIS

GROUNDBREAKING WORK AS A

NEUROSURGEON, BUT HE HAS

BOTTOM A SOUGHT-AFTER

SPEAKER FOR CONSERVATIVES

AFTER HIS HEADLINE GRABBING

SPEECH AT THE NATIONAL

PRAYER BREAKFAST.

THAT'S WHERE HE DECLARED

JESUS CHRIST AS HIS ROLE

MODEL, AND APPLIED BIBLICAL

SCRIPTURES TO HEALTH CARE

AND TAXES.

ALL WHILE SITTING INCHES

FROM THE COMMANDER IN

CHIEF.

WHEN A PERSON IS BORN,

GIVE HIM A BIRTH CERT

CERTIFCATE, AND A SAVINGS

ACCOUNT.

AND WHEN YOU DIE, YOU CAN

CAN PASS IT ON TO YOUR

FAMILY MEMBERS, SO WHEN

YOU'RE 85 YEARS OLD AND

YOU'VE GOT SIX DISEASES,

YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO SPEND

UP EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE HAPPY TO PASS IT ON.

Reporter: CARSON SAYS

HE THINKS ABOUT PROBLEMS

FACING THE U.S. ALL OF THE

TIME, AND BELIEVES POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS IS RESTRAINING

THE AMERICAN GUARANTEE OF

FREE EXPRESSION AND SPEECH.

IT PUTS A MUZZLE ON THEM,

AND AT THE SAME TIME KEEPS

PEOPLE FROM DISCUSSING

IMPORTANT ISSUES WHILE THE

FABRIC OF THIS SOCIETY IS

BEING CHANGED.

Reporter: CARSON SAYS

IT IS A SHAME MORE DOCTORS

AREN'T INVOLVED IN

GOVERNMENT, LEAVING MANY

WONDERING IF THE FAMOUS

SURGEON HAS FUTURE PLANS FOR

POLITICAL OFFICE.

JENNIFER WISHON, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WELL, BEN CARSON

IS A DEAR FRIEND.

HE HAS BEEN A BOARD MEMBER

OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT

REGENT YMP UNIVERSITY FOR A

NUMBER OF YEARS.

HE HOLDS OVER 50 HONORARY

DEGREES.

HE IS A VERY HUMBLE MAN, AND

A DEAR GUY, AND HE LOVES

JESUS.

BEN CARSON, THANKS FOR BEING

WITH US.

ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Pat: DID YOU THINK YOU

WERE GOING TO GET INTO THIS

KIND OF A SITUATION?

THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOUR

HIGHLIGHTING THE C-PACK

CONFERENCE.

WHAT WAS IT?

THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT

AT THE PRAYER BREAKFAST ARE

THE SAME THINGS I'VE BEEN

TALKING ABOUT FOR 20 YEARS.

AND FOR 20 YEARS, PEOPLE

HAVE BEEN TELLING ME I

SHOULD GO INTO POLITICS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T

FELT THAT PARTICULAR CALLING

FROM GOD YET.

HE WORKS IN LOTS OF

DIFFERENT WAYS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT

THING, I THINK, IS TO OPEN

PEOPLE'S EYES AND HELP THEM

TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS

THE UNITED STATES OF

AMERICA.

THIS IS NOT SOME

EUROPEAN-STYLE COUNTRY.

THIS IS A PLACE WHERE

FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM

OF EXPRESSION, IS ONE OF THE

PILLARS OF OUR SOCIETY.

THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE'RE

ALL SUPPOSED TO BE EQUAL

UNDER THE LAW.

THIS IS NOT A PLACE WHERE WE

DIVIDE OURSELVES UP IN TERMS

OF OUR SOCIAL ECONOMIC

STATUS OR IN TERMS OF OUR

RACE OR IN TERMS OF OUR

AGE.

WE NEED TO HAVE COMMON

GOALS.

WE HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON

THAN WE HAVE APART.

AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS

ALLOWED CERTAIN POLITICIANS

TO DIVIDE US UP FOR THEIR

OWN POLITICAL ADVANTAGE.

Pat: SPEAKING OF

POLITICIANS, YOU HAD THE

NUMBER ONE POLITICIAN IN THE

NATION SITTING NEXT TO YOU

AT THAT SPEECH.

SOME PEOPLE THINK YOU

INSULTED HIM, AND SOME THINK

YOU WERE JUST TELLING THE

TRUTH AND YOU DID IT IN

LOVE.

IF YOU'RE NOT GUILTY OF

ANY OF THE ACCUSATIONS, THEN

IT SHOULDN'T BE INSULTING TO

YOU.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: YOU DON'T THINK HE

IS GUILTY, OR YOU'RE NOT

SAYING.

WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF WHAT

YOU WERE SAYING, THOUGH?

YOU WERE ADDRESSING THE --

YOU TALKED ABOUT GOD'S

SYSTEM OF FINANCE.

YEAH.

BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE POINT

THAT WAS MAKING THERE IS

THAT IF GOD THINKS

PROPORTIONALITY IS FAIR, WHO

ARE WE TO SAY THAT IT

ISN'T?

HE HAS A VERY, VERY

EXCELLENT SYSTEM.

YOU KNOW, WITH TITHING.

YOU MAKE $10 BILLION, YOU

PUT A BILLION IN THE POT.

YOU MAKE $10, YOU PUT ONE IN

THE POT.

THE GUY WHO PUT A BILLION

INPUT A BILLION TIMES MORE

THAN THE GUY WHO PUT ONE IN,

AND YET HE DOESN'T GET ANY

SPECIAL ADVANTAGES.

THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY FAIR

SYSTEM.

AND THE OTHER THING IS

EVERYBODY HAS SKIN IN THE

GAME.

IF EVERYBODY HAS SKIN IN THE

GAME, IT MAKES THE

GOVERNMENT NECESSARILY

RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THEY

CAN'T WILLY-NILLY RAISE

TAXES.

BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A

RESPONSIBILITY.

SO NOW YOU'VE GOT TO BE VERY

CAREFUL AND YOU'VE GOT TO

REALLY JUSTIFY WHAT YOU'RE

DOING.

MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T

REALLY CARE ABOUT SOMETHING

BAD THAT IS HAPPENING TO

SOMEBODY ELSE, AS LONG AS IT

IS NOT AFFECTING THEM.

THEREFORE YOU PUT EVERYBODY

IN THE GAME.

Pat: WHAT ABOUT HEALTH

CARE?

YOU, OF COURSE, BECAME

FAMOUS WHEN YOU SEPARATED

CONJOINED TWINS.

WHAT ABOUT THIS OBAMACARE?

WELL, YOU KNOW,

OBAMACARE, OR, YOU KNOW,

WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL

IT, HAS NOT REALLY HAD THE

DESIRED EFFECT.

IT IS COSTING A LOT MORE

THAN WAS ANTICIPATED.

IT IS FORCING A LOT OF

EMPLOYERS, PARTICULARLY

SMALL BUSINESSES, TO ALTER

THEIR HIRING PRACTICES, TO

BRING ON PEOPLE AS PART-TIME

WORKERS SO THAT THEY DON'T

HAVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH

THIS VERY EXPENSIVE

ENDEAVOR.

NONE OF THAT IS USEFUL,

PARTICULAR WHEN WE HAVE

OTHER POSSIBILITIES.

FOR INSTANCE, HEALTH SAVINGS

ACCOUNTS.

WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY

IN THE SYSTEM TO PAY FOR THE

HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO

SAY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO

CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE, THEY

DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO

CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE.

IF WE USE THE SAME MONEY

WE'RE ALREADY USING AND PUT

THEM INTO PEOPLE'S

INDIVIDUAL HEALTH SAVINGS

ACCOUNTS.

BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE

CONTROL OVER THAT ACCOUNT.

WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO

START SHOPPING FOR THE BEST

BARGAINS.

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO

THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHERE IT

COSTS FIVE TIMES MORE TO GET

SOMETHING TAKEN CARE OF.

THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE

CLINIC.

NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TO

GET THEIR PROBLEM SOLVED,

BUT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY,

LET'S GET YOUR CHRONIC

ISSUES UNDER CONTROL SO

YOU'RE NOT BACK HERE IN

THREE WEEKS WITH THE SAME

PROBLEM.

WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT

SOLVING PROBLEMS RATHER THAN

SETTING OURSELVES UP IN

OPPOSITION.

EVERYTHING IS A CHALLENGE.

YOU SAY SOMETHING, YOU'RE

ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT.

HOW COME WE CAN'T SIT DOWN

AND HAVE A DECENT

CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO

SOLVE PROBLEMS?

Pat: YOU'RE A YOUNG

GUY.

WHAT IS THIS RETIREMENT

BUSINESS?

IS THERE A LIMIT AT WHICH

YOU CAN DO THIS COMPLEX

NEUROSURGERY?

WELL, YOU KNOW, PILOTS

ARE FORCED TO RETIRE WHILE

THEY STILL ARE RELATIVELY

YOUNG AND HEALTHY.

AND YOU HAVE TO STOP AND ASK

YOURSELF WHY IS THAT?

THEY DON'T WAIT UNTIL THEY

START CRASHING AIRPLANES.

AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER

IS, AS YOU GET OLDER, YOUR

VISION DECREASES, YOUR

AGILITY DECREASES, YOUR

STAMINA DECREASES.

ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN,

AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS

THAT AS A SURGEON,

PARTICULARLY DOING A LOT OF

DELICATE THINGS, YOU NEED TO

KNOW WHEN TO STOP.

AND YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE

YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT

YOU CAN DO.

I HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER

THINGS TO DO.

I MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO

WORK TO GET A BREAK.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: AS MUCH AS I WOULD

LOVE TO SEE YOU IN A

LEADERSHIP ROLE, I HOPE AND

PRAY THE LORD DOESN'T LEAD

YOU INTO POLITICS.

YOU'RE TOO VALUABLE.

I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I HOPE HE DOESN'T LEAD ME

THERE, EITHER.

BUT I HOPE HE DOES USE ME TO

HELP STIMULATE THE

DISCUSSION, AND HELP PEOPLE

TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE, THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE, ARE NOT

EACH OTHER'S ENEMIES, NO

MATTER HOW PEOPLE TRY TO

CARVE US UP.

WE HAVE MUCH MORE IN COMMON

THAN WE HAVE APART, AND WE

NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO

SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS, STOP

DEMONIZING EACH OTHER AND

GET TO WORK.

Pat: YOU'RE A GREAT

VOICE OF REASON.

THANK YOU.

DR. BEN CARSON, A DEAR

FRIEND, HEAD OF PEDIATRIC

NEUROSURGERY.

Terry: I HOPE HE

CONTINUES TO BE A VOICE FOR

THE SOCIETY.

Pat: YOU KNOW HE IS

GOING TO BE.

Terry: HE HAS GOT A LOT

TO SAY.

COMING UP NEXT, VIEWER

DISCRETION IS ADVISED.

STAY TUNED FOR AN APPALLING

REPORT ON SEX WEEK AT YALE.

AND A WARNING THAT THIS

COULD BE COMING TO YOUR

CHILD'S UNIVERSITY.

Pat: LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, I, YOUR HUMBLE

HOST ON THIS PROGRAM, I'M A

GRADUATE OF THE YALE LAW

SCHOOL.

MY SON, GORDON, IS A YALE

UNDERGRADUATE SCHOOL

GRADUATE.

A NUMBER OF PRESIDENTS OF

THE UNITED STATES HAVE BEEN

GRADUATES OF YALE, A NUMBER

OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES --

WHEN I WAS IN YALE, THERE

WAS A GUY NAMED WILLIAM

DOUGLAS WHO WENT TO THE

SUPREME COURT.

CLARENCE THOMAS WAS A YALEY,

AS WAS ILLITO, A GREAT GUY.

THIS IS A SCHOOL THAT TRAINS

LEADERS, LEADERS.

THEY HAVE A SOCIETY CALLED

SKULL AND BONES, ONE OF

THOSE SECRET SOCIETIES,

WHICH -- WELL, WHICH

SHEPHERDS THE SONS OF THE

RICH AND FAMOUS AND PREPARES

THEM TO LEAD THE WORLD.

AND EVERY YEAR THOUSANDS OF

HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS APPLY

TO AMERICA'S TOP UNIVERSITY,

NOT JUST YALE, BUT HARVARD

AND M.I.T. AND THESE OTHERS,

AND THEY'RE HOPING TO GET A

WORLD CLASS EDUCATION.

BUT IS YALE REALLY DOING

IT?

IS THAT EDUCATION WHAT IT

USED TO BE?

IT NOW COMES WITH SOME

SHOCKING EXTRAS.

LEE WEBB EXPLAINS WHAT WE'RE

TALKING ABOUT.

Lee: FOR A GLIMPSE INTO

AMERICA'S FUTURE, LOOK NO

FURTHER THAN ITS COLLEGE

CAMPUSES.

AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION IS

IN MORAL AND ACADEMIC

DECLINE.

SO SAYS NATHAN HARDEN, A

2009 YALE GRADUATE WHO HAS

WRITTEN "SEX AND GOD AT

YALE, PORN, POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS, AND A GOOD

EDUCATION GONE BAD."

HE SAYS YALE'S HIGHLY

PUBLICIZED SEX WEEK IS ONE

EXAMPLE OF THE MORAL CRISIS

AFFECTING AMERICAN HIGHER

EDUCATION.

DURING SEX WEEK, PORN STARS

AND C.E.O.s ARE INVITED ON

CAMPUS FOR SEMINARS AND

PRODUCT DEMONSTRATIONS, ALL

SANCTIONED BY THE

UNIVERSITY.

OTHER UNIVERSITIES HAVE

FOLLOWED SUIT AND OFFERED

THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF SEX

WEEK.

HARDEN SAYS THIS UNDERSCORES

THE LOSS OF PURPOSE THAT

PERPERMEATES EDUCATION

TODAY.

HE POINTS OUT IT HAS LEFT US

WITH UNIVERSITIES THAT SEEM

TO NO LONGER KNOW WHAT IS

AND ISN'T WORTH TEACHING IN

THEIR CLASSROOMS.

Pat: BILL BUCKLEY WROTE

A BOOK CALLED "GOD, MAN, AND

YALE," AND HE WAS IN THE

CLASS OF '50s, WHICH WAS

MY CLASS IN COLLEGE.

AND HE WAS A BRILLIANT

EXPOSETER OF TRADITIONAL

VALUES, BUT WHAT HE HAD TO

SAY IS TAME COMPARED TO WHAT

IS IN THIS BOOK CALLED "SEX

AND GOD AT YALE," WRITTEN BY

A GENTLEMAN NAMED NATHAN

HARDEN, WHO ALSO IS A YALE

GRADUATE.

NATHAN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU

HERE.

GOOD TO BE HERE, PAT.

Pat: THIS IS AN

INCREDIBLE SHOCK.

IT SHOULD HAVE A BROWN

WRAPPER AROUND IT.

IT IS A SHOCKER.

I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I ARRIVED

AT YALE AND FOUND THERE WERE

A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON

THAT I CERTAINLY HAD NO

EXPECTATIONS OF PRIOR TO

ARRIVING THERE.

I THINK LIKE A LOT OF

PEOPLE, I THOUGHT OF YALE AS

AN ELITE INSTITUTION WITH A

LOT OF HIGH-MINDED,

INTELLECTUAL IDEALS, AND TO

SOME EXTENT, THAT IS TRUE,

BUT THERE IS ALSO A RADICAL

MORAL AGENDA THERE.

AND I FOUND THIS MOST

DISTURBINGLY IN THE

SO-CALLED SEX WEEK AT YALE,

WHICH IS A SPECIAL SERIES OF

EVENTS THAT ARE DONE EVERY

YEAR NOW ON SEX-RELATED

THEMES.

Pat: THAT'S SPONSORED

BY THE UNIVERSITY?

WELL, OFFICIALLY IT'S RUN

AND ORGANIZED BY STUDENTS.

BUT THE ADMINISTRATION

APPROVES THE USE OF YALE

CLASSROOMS ON AN EVENT BY

EVENT BASIS.

SO A LOT OF THE SPONSORSHIP,

UNFORTUNATELY, HAS COME FROM

THE SEX INDUSTRY, WHETHER IT

BE PORN COMPANIES, SEX TOY

MANUFACTURERS, AND SO FORTH,

HAVE BEEN FUNDING THESE.

AND BASICALLY TURNING THE

CLASSROOM AT YALE INTO A

MARKETING FORM FOR

PORNOGRAPHY.

SO I SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIVE

DEMONSTRATIONS OF A TOPLESS

PORN STAR, DEMONSTRATING HER

PSEUDO MASOCHISTIC

TECHNIQUES IN THE

CLASSROOM.

Pat: THIS IS A

CLASSROOM AT YALE, THE

HALLOWED HALLS OF IVY.

THESE WERE CLASSROOMS

WHERE I STUDIED SHAKESPEARE,

DONTE --

Pat: HOW MANY STUDENTS

WERE IN THESE CLASSES?

HUNDREDS.

AND THERE WERE SOME THINGS

THAT WERE SO GRAPHIC I CAN'T

REALLY TALK ABOUT THEM ON

TELEVISION.

BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT

INVOLVED EVERYTHING FROM

GRAPHIC DEMONSTRATIONS OF

ORAL SEX TO ACTUAL SCREENING

OF HARD-CORE, VIOLENT

PORNOGRAPHY IN THE

CLASSROOM.

AND THIS IS AT A UNIVERSITY

THAT CLAIMS THEY ARE FOR

WOMEN'S RIGHTS.

BUT I SAW WOMEN OPENLY

DEMEANED AND OBJECTIFIED

THROUGH THIS VIOLENT PORN.

I WAS OUTRAGED BY IT.

Pat: YOU'VE GOT A PORN

STAR UP IN FRONT OF A CLASS

OF A COUPLE HUNDRED

STUDENTS.

300, 400 -- HOW MANY?

IN ONE CASE, THERE WAS

MORE THAN A THOUSAND.

Pat: A THOUSAND

STUDENTS.

AND SHE IS TALKING ABOUT

PSEUDO MASOCHISM?

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND THAT INVOLVES VIOLENCE

IN A SEXUAL CONTEXT.

TO ME, WHAT WAS SHOCKING WAS

NOT SO MUCH THE MORAL

QUESTION, BUT THE FACT OF

WHERE IT WAS BEING DONE.

ANYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN

A YALE CLASSROOM, WHETHER

THE UNIVERSITY AND

ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO

ADMIT IT OR NOT, IT IS GIVEN

SORT OF A STAMP OF

APPROVAL.

THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW THE KU

KLUX KLAN TO COME IN THERE

AND DO A WHITE SUPREMACIST

DEMONSTRATIONS.

THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW WOMEN TO

BE OPENLY DEMEANED, BUT

THAT'S, IN FACT, WHAT

HAPPENED.

Pat: I WAS IN A DEBATE

WITH A GUY NAMED RUSS MYERS,

AND I THINK HE MAY HAVE BEEN

THE MAN WHO DIRECTED "DEEP

THROAT," BUT HE WAS INTO

PORNOGRAPHY.

AND IT WAS THE BIRTHPLACE OF

PHI BETA KAPPA, TO WHICH I

HAPPEN TO BE A MEMBER.

AND THE WOMEN WERE HOSTILE

TO ME.

I WAS TRYING TO SAY, LOOK,

LADIES, THESE PEOPLE ARE

DOING BAD THINGS TO YOU AND

DEMEANING YOU.

RIGHT.

Pat: AND "DEEP THROAT"

THE GIRL WHO WAS A STAR IN

THAT, HER HUSBAND BEAT HER.

AND SHE GOT PAID A COUPLE

HUNDRED DOLLARS A WEEK TO DO

THAT STUFF.

BUT THESE GIRLS WERE ALL IN

FAVOR OF THE PORN GUY.

IS THIS THE WAY IT WAS AT

YALE?

IN FACT -- UNFORTUNATELY,

THERE IS A LOT OF DEBATE

ABOUT THE ROLE OF

PORNOGRAPHY.

I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHERE

YOU STAND ON THAT ISSUE, IT

IS CLEAR THAT AT A PLACE

LIKE YALE, WHERE MANY OF THE

STUDENTS FEEL DEMEANED BY

THIS MATERIAL, IT SIMPLY HAS

NO PLACE.

THEY DO THIS IN THE NAME OF

ACADEMIC FREEDOM.

BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE

BETWEEN ACADEMIC FREEDOM AND

HAVING NO ACADEMIC STANDARDS

WHATSOEVER.

AND THAT'S WHAT I FOUND.

BUT IT GOES BEYOND THE

SEXUAL THINGS.

I WRITE IN THE BOOK ONE CASE

WHERE THE GIRL WAS GIVEN

APPROVAL TO DO THIS ART

PROJECT, WHICH SHE SAID

CONSISTED OF THE BLOOD AND

TISSUE FROM SELF-INDUCED

ABORTIONS, AND IT WAS GIVEN

THE STAMP OF AP PRIEWL.

APPROVAL.

THIS IS PERMEATING THE

UNIVERSITIES.

Pat: YALE HAD

TREMENDOUS SUPERIOR

SPIRITUAL RERIVALS, AND THE

FOUNDATION OF YALE WAS

SPIRITUAL.

THE LEADERS -- YOU LOOK AT

SOME OF THE FOUNDING

DOCUMENTS OF YALE, AND IT

HAD TO DO WITH GLORIFYING

JESUS AND THE BIBLE.

YOU POINT OUT IN YOUR BOOK

THAT THIS EXTREME ER

EROTICISM, OR WHATEVER YOU

CALL IT, WAS TO SHOW PEOPLE

THEY HAD GOTTEN EXTREMELY

AWAY FROM THEIR CHRISTIAN

ROOTS?

IN A SENSE, I DON'T THINK

YALE KNOWS WHAT IT STANDS

FOR ANYMORE, EXCEPT FOR

MAYBE ITS OWN SENSE OF

ELITEISM.

WHETHER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT

THE RADICAL SEXUAL AGENDAS,

THE SORT OF LOSS OF ACADEMIC

STANDARDS IN THE ART

DEPARTMENT, OR ANOTHER

EXAMPLE I TACK ABOUT I TALK

ABOUT IN THE BOOK THEY

ADMITTED A FORMER DIPLOMAT

AT LARGE FOR THE TALIBAN.

I ENDED UP TAKING MY FINAL

EXAMPLE FOR INTERNATIONAL

RELATIONS SEATED NEXT TO A

MAN WHO WAS A SWORN ENEMY OF

THE UNITED STATES, LITERALLY

WHILE OUR SOLDIERS WERE

DYING IN THE MOUNTAINS OF

AFGHANISTAN.

Pat: HE WAS A STUDENT

OR A PROFESSOR?

HE WAS A STUDENT.

THEY ADMITTED HIM TO BE A

STUDENT.

HE MADE A BOAST TO THE "NEW

YORK TIMES," AND HE SAID I

COULD BE AT GUANTANAMO, BUT

INSTEAD I'M AT YALE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING

LIKE THAT, WHAT YOU FIND IS

A UNIVERSITY THAT HAS BEEN

SO CO-OPTED BY RELATIVE

MORALISM, THAT NO LONGER HAS

A SENSE THERE IS ANY

STANDARD AS TO WHICH WHAT

GOES ON IN ITS CLASSROOMS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE

BROWN, DUKE, UNIVERSITY OF

ILLINOIS, UNIVERSITY OF

TENNESSEE, AND PARENTS NEED

TO PREPARE THEIR KIDS FOR

THE MORAL BATTLEGROUND

THEY'RE GOING TO FACE IN

COLLEGE.

Pat: WHY WOULD ANYBODY

SEND THEIR KIDS TO ONE OF

THESE COLLEGES.

WHAT IS TO BE GAINED?

I WAS IN A FORUM UP THERE IN

A DEBATE WITH SOME OF THE

LAW PROFESSORS, AND THEY

DIDN'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT

AMERICAN HISTORY.

I WAS JUST SHOCKED -- WELL,

I WASN'T SHOCKED, BUT I

NAILED THEM BECAUSE THEY

WERE SAYING THINGS THAT

WEREN'T TRUE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I THINK IN SOME SENSE WE AS

CHRISTIANS NEED TO STAND UP

AND LET THE TRUTH BE HEARD.

WHETHER IT IS STUDENTS WHO

ARE AT YALE OR SOME OTHER

COLLEGE.

WE NEED TO SUPPOSE THE LIES

THAT ARE BEING TOLD IN THESE

CLASSROOMS, AND THESE SORT

OF ELEMENTS.

OTHERWISE WITHOUT THE TRUTH

BEING TOLD, IT GOES ON IN

SECRET.

Pat: WHAT IS THEIR

ENROLLMENT NOW, ABOUT

18 BILLION?

IT'S HUGE.

I THINK ABOUT 20 BILLION.

Pat: AND THESE PEOPLE

HAVE GIVEN HUGE AMOUNTS OF

MONEY.

WHAT IS IT WITH THE WALL

STREET TYPES THEY AREN'T

AWARE OF WHAT IS BEING

TAUGHT, OR DO THEY CARE?

I THINK SOME OF THEM DO.

IN FACT, I HAVE HEARD

WHISPERS IN BACK CHANNELS

THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF

OUTRAGE EXPRESSED FROM

VARIOUS A ALUMNI AFTER THE

BOOK CAME OUT.

AND THEY SAID, THIS ISN'T

WHAT WE WERE SENDING MONEY

TO YALE FOR, SO A PORN STAR

COULD STRIP DOWN.

OR WE WEREN'T PAYING TO

EDUCATE THE TALIBAN.

I BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN

SOME ACCOUNTABILITY, AND I

HOPE THAT CONTINUES AS

PEOPLE READ ABOUT THE BOOK

AND FIND OUT WHAT'S REALLY

GOING ON.

Pat: ARE THEY JUST

GIVING MONEY BECAUSE -- I

GET SOLICITED BY YALE.

SURE.

Pat: HELP US GET 100%

OF OUR CLASS, BLAH, BLAH,

BLAH.

YOU KNOW THE PITCH.

RIGHT.

Pat: BUT THESE PEOPLE

GIVE JUST BECAUSE IT IS PEER

PRESSURE, AND THEIR EYES

AREN'T OPEN.

WHY WOULD ANYBODY SEND A

LITTLE GIRL TO YALE TO THINK

SHE MIGHT GET SUBJECTED TO

PSEUDO MASOCHISM.

THE SEXUAL PERMISSIVENESS IS

PERVASIVE, ISN'T IT?

STUDENTS COME IN AT A

VERY CRITICAL STAGE OF LIFE,

WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO

FIGURE OUT WHO THEY ARE.

AND WHEN THEY'RE TOLD, HEY,

THIS IS WHAT IS NORMAL, THIS

SORT OF VIOLENT SEXUAL

ACTIVITY, OR THIS HYPER

LEVEL OF PROMISCUITY, IF

YOU'RE NOT GETTING WITH THE

PROGRAM, THEN THERE IS

SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU.

I THINK THAT IS THE FALSE

MESSAGE.

IT'S TRYING TO FORCE

EVERYONE INTO A CERTAIN

LIBERAL SEXUAL CULTURE, AND

NOT MAKING A PLACE FOR

SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO

LIVE IN A COUNTERCULTURAL

WAY.

Pat: HAVE YOU FOLLOWED

THROUGH ON THESE AND SEEN

THE SHIP WRECK IN THE LIVES

OF PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THIS

CULTURE?

I HAVE.

I KNOW LOTS OF STUDENTS WHO

COME IN WITH A CERTAIN SET

OF BELIEFS.

FOUR YEARS LATER, THEY GO

OUT WITH A VERY DIFFERENT

SET OF BELIEFS.

AND I HEAR FROM PARENTS ALL

THE TIME, AND THEY SAID, WE

SENT OUT KIDS OFF TO

SCHOOL -- THEY E-MAIL ME --

AND WE LOST THEM.

AND NOW THEIR LIVES ARE A

WRECK.

SO COLLEGE IS A GREAT THING

AND MANY RESPECTS, AND IT

REPRESENTS THE AMERICAN

DREAM.

AND PARENTS FEEL LIKE IT

MEANS THAT THEY'VE BEEN

SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEIR KIDS

GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.

IT IS A GREAT MILE MARKER,

AND THAT'S ALL GREAT, BUT WE

ALSO NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE

TREMENDOUS MORAL PRESSURE

THAT YOUNG PEOPLE FACE, AND

THAT THERE IS REALLY A WAR

BEING WAGED ON THE MIND BY

THE FACULTY AND

ADMINISTRATION AT A LOT OF

OUR UNIVERSITIES, NOT JUST

YALE.

AND IF YOU DON'T PREPARE

YOUR STUDENT -- YOU DON'T

PREPARE YOUR KIDS TO BE

STRONG AND FACE THAT, THEIR

LIFE CAN BE WRECKED BY IT.

Pat: NATHAN, THANK YOU

SO MUCH.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, "SEX,

GOD, AND YALE."

NATHAN HARDEN, AN

INTERESTING COMMENTATOR.

I MADE A LITTLE PITCH FOR

THE SCHOOL THAT I HAVE

CALLED REGENT UNIVERSITY.

THERE ARE 6,000 STUDENTS.

IT, BY THE WAY, TOOK THE

PLACE OF YALE IN THE COURT

COMPETITION.

YALE WAS NUMBER ONE IN THE

COUNTRY, AND NOW IT IS

REGENT.

SO YOU NEVER KNOW.

A LITTLE SCHOOL IN VIRGINIA

CAN CA TAKE ON THE GIANTS.

BUT PEOPLE ARE GETTING

DISGUSTED WITH WHAT THEY'RE

HEARING.

YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT

YOU'RE CHILD IS STUDYING,

WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING, WHAT

THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT, AND

WHAT INFLUENCES ARE BEING

PUT ON THEM.

THIS IS AN INTERESTING BOOK,

"SEX AND GOD AT YALE."

NATHAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH

FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU.

Terry: UP NEXT, A MAN'S

FIRST EXPOSURE TO PORN

HAPPENED AT THE AGE OF

EIGHT.

SEEK OF HAVOC IT WREAKED ON

HIS LIFE AND HIS MARRIAGE,

WHEN WE COME BACK.

*

Terry: WHEN CHRIS BEAL

CONFESSED HIS DARKEST

SECRETS TO HIS WIFE, CINDY

HE REVEALED ALL THREE AT

ONCE, THAT HE WAS A PORN

ADDICT, THAT HE HAD AN

AFFAIR, AND THAT HIS

MISTRESS WAS NOW CARRYING

HIS BABY.

IT HAS BEEN 32 YEARS, AND

I CAN STILL TELL YOU EXACTLY

WHAT I LOOKED AT, 32 YEARS

LATER.

Reporter: CHRIS BEAL

WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD WHEN HE

SAW HIS FIRST PORN

MAGAZINE.

IT WAS THE CRAZIEST

THING.

THERE WAS A KID IN THE

NEIGHBORHOOD WHO'S BROTHER

WORKED AT A GAS STATION, AND

BROUGHT OLD ISSUES HOME.

Reporter: AS A

TEENAGER, CHRIS STARTED

BUYING HIS OWN MAGAZINES.

IT WASN'T UNTIL THE

INTERNET CAME OUT IN LATE

COLLEGE THAT IT WAS JUST GAS

ON A FIRE.

BECAUSE NOW YOU DON'T HAVE

TO GO ANYWHERE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH

THE HUMILIATION OF BUYING

SOMETHING AT A STORE.

AND THAT'S WHERE IT JUST

WENT FROM KIND OF A CONSTANT

STRUGGLE TO AN ALL-OUT

ADDICTION.

Reporter: CHRIS MET

CINDY WHILE BOTH WERE

ATTENDING COLLEGE IN TEXAS.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL

IT LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT

BECAUSE WE HAD SEEN EACH

OTHER BEFORE, BUT WE KNEW.

THE FIRST TIME SPENDING TIME

TOGETHER, WE JUST KNEW.

I KNEW HE WAS IT.

Reporter: CHRIS AND

CINDY MARRIED, BUT CHRIS'

ADDICTION GOT WORSE.

IT FINALLY GOT TO THE

POINT WHERE I WAS LOOKING AT

PORNOGRAPHY EVERY DAY.

CINDY DIDN'T FULLY KNOW.

SHE KIND OF KNEW THIS WAS AN

EVER ONCE IN A WHILE

STRUGGLE, BUT SHE DIDN'T

KNOW THE FULL EXTENT.

Reporter: CHRIS WAS THE

MINISTER OF MUSIC AT HIS

CHURCH, AND HE SPENT A LOT

OF TIME ALONE IN HIS

OFFICE.

MOST OF THE TIME HE WOULD

VIEW IT, IT WAS AT WORK.

SO I DIDN'T SEE IT AND KNOW

IT WAS GETTING BAD.

AND THEN IT WENT FROM

LOOKING AT IMAGES TO

CHATTING WITH PEOPLE.

AND THEN THE UNTHINKABLE: I

KNOWINGLY, FULLY KNOWING

WHAT I'M DOING, I MET ONE OF

THEM.

I CAN NEVER SAY I KEPT MY

VOW.

I BROKE MY PROMISE.

AND I WAS JUST IN THIS WORLD

OF DARKNESS.

AND I HATED MYSELF.

AND THEN I GOT UP ON STAGE

TO LEAD WORSHIP ON SUNDAY

MORNING, AND I WAS JUST THE

BIGGEST POSER, THE BIGGEST

HYPOCRITE.

Reporter: CHRIS'

PASTOR, CRAIG, ENCOURAGED

HIM TO BE A MAN OF INTEGRITY

WHO HAS NO SECRETS.

I RESONATE WITH

EVERYTHING HE IS SAYING, YET

I'M NOT THAT GUY.

I'M THE ANTITHESIS OF THAT

GUY.

AND I TRIED.

I TRIED TO MANAGE IT.

I WAS ABLE TO DO DEAL WITH

IT FOR SIX WEEKS.

AND I JUST COULDN'T HANDLE

IT ANYMORE.

IT WAS AS THOUGH THE HOLY

SPIRIT HAD PUT ME IN A

CORNER AND SAID, WE ARE

GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS

ISSUE.

HE CONFESSED EVERYTHING

TO ME.

I'VE BEEN UNFAITHFUL TO YOU

MANY TIMES, MANY DIFFERENT

WOMEN, MANY DIFFERENT PLACES

OVER THE COURSE OF ABOUT

TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEAR

PERIOD.

AND I'M JUST LISTENING.

YOU'RE KIDDING.

THIS HUGE WEIGHT IS NOW

GONE BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST

TIME SINCE I WAS EIGHT YEARS

OLD, I AM A MAN WITH NO

SECRETS.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'VE

TAKEN THIS BURDEN -- AND

IT'S NOT LIKE IT JUST

RANDOMLY WENT AWAY, BUT I

PLACED THE BURDEN ON MY

WIFE.

AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH,

THE FINAL PART, HE SAID ONE

OF THE WOMEN IS PREGNANT AND

I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I'M THE

FATHER.

I FOUND IT TO BE THE WORST

DAY OF MY LIFE.

THE NEXT MORNING I REALIZED,

WELL, SO IS THAT ONE, AND

THE NEXT ONE.

SO IT WAS JUST A BUNCH OF

WORST DAYS OF MY LIFE ALL IN

A ROW.

AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT

I CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER.

AND SO FOR THE FIRST WEEK WE

JUST SAT SILENT FOR HOURS

AND DAYS AND CRIED AND

TALKED.

AND SHE ASKED QUESTIONS, AND

I ANSWERED QUESTIONS.

Reporter: CHRIS ASKED

FOR CINDY'S FORGIVENESS.

CINDY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO

OR WHERE TO GO.

CHRIS TOLD THE STAFF AT HIS

CHURCH WHAT HE HAD DONE, AND

HE LOST HIS JOB, BUT HIS

PASTOR DIDN'T LOSE FAITH IN

CHRIS.

HE WAS GOING TO LEAD OUR

CHURCH THROUGH THE TRUTH.

AND THAT PETRIFIED ME.

PETRIFIED ME.

I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THE

BODY OF CHRIST LIKE I DID

THAT DAY.

IT WASN'T THE THINGS THAT

THEY SAID.

IT WAS JUST THERE WAS

GENUINE LOVE.

THEY LOVED US.

I HAD SO BETRAYED THEM, AND

THEY LOVED US.

AND THAT WAS THE FIRST

MOMENT THAT I KNEW GOD WAS

UP TO SOMETHING GREAT.

Reporter: BUT CINDY

STILL NEEDED TIME TO THINK

AND PRAYER.

PRAY.

SHE LEFT TO SEE HER MOTHER.

WHEN I GOT THERE, MY

MOTHER SAID I MADE AN

APPOINTMENT FOR YOU TO SEE

OUR PASTOR.

I WAS, LIKE, REALLY?

I'VE GOT TO SEE ANOTHER MAN

WHO WILL TELL ME TO STAY

WITH MY WIFE.

AND HE SAID, WHAT YOU'VE

BEEN THROUGH IS VERY

DIFFICULT.

NOBODY WOULD BLAME YOU IF

YOU LEFT, BUT -- OH, THERE'S

A BUT THERE -- YOU'RE NOT

REQUIRED TO BE A PART OF HIS

REDEMPTIVE LIFE.

I THOUGHT, I TRUST YOU,

LORD, BUT ONCE A CHEATER,

ALWAYS A CHEATER.

I'M GOING TO BE A DOOR MAT

IF I STAY.

AND GOD WAS, LIKE, DO YOU

TRUST ME?

DO YOU TRUST ME?

DO YOU TRUST ME?

FINALLY I SAID, YEAH, YOU'VE

NEVER LEFT ME DOWN.

I DO TRUST YOU.

THAT MOMENT, HIS PEACE JUST

WASHED OVER ME.

AND I'LL JUST NEVER FORGET

HAVING THIS RENEWED SENSE OF

I THINK WE CAN CAN D DO

THIS.

AND BEFORE SHE EVEN SAID,

I'M COMMITTED TO THIS

MARRIAGE, I COULD SEE THAT

GOD HAD PUT THAT IN HER

HEART, AND THAT WAS A GREAT

DAY.

Reporter: CHRIS AND

CINDY STARTED OVER.

CINDY FORGAVE HIM

COMPLETELY, AND THEIR TRUST

IN EACH OTHER STARTED TO

GROW AGAIN.

THEY HAD TWO SONS OF THEIR

OWN.

CHRIS' THIRD SON LIVES WITH

HIS MOTHER.

AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS,

CINDY WOULD JUST CRY BECAUSE

SHE LOVED HIM LIKE HER OWN

SON.

AND TODAY HE IS NOT A

REMINDER OF MY SIN.

HE IS A REMINDER OF THE

REDEMPTION OF GOD.

HE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST

JOYS IN THIS WHOLE TERRIBLE

STORY.

I MEAN, HE IS THE SCRIPTURE

THAT SAYS GOD WILL CAUSE ALL

THINGS TO WORK TOGETHER FOR

GOOD PERSONIFIED, IT'S THAT

LITTLE BOY.

Reporter: CHRIS AND

CINDY WILL TELL YOU THAT

THEIR MARRIAGE ISN'T

PERFECT.

IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.

I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS IN

THE BUSINESS OF PERFORMING

MIRACLES TODAY.

HE IS STILL IN THE BUSINESS

OF DOING THOSE MIRACLES.

AND MY MARRIAGE IS JUST

THAT, A MIRACLE.

THERE IS NO HOPE FOR

FREEDOM, THERE IS NO HOPE

FOR RESTORATION UNTIL YOU

CAN JUST WADE IN THE WATERS

OF TRUTH, WHICH IS YOU'RE

ENOUGH, AND HE LOVES YOU

MORE THAN ANYTHING.

AND THEN IN THE MIDST OF

THAT LOVE, HAVE THE COURAGE

AND THE TRUST TO TRUST IN A

GOOD GOD, TO DO WHATEVER IT

TAKES TO BE FREE.

TO CONFESS IT, TO BRING IT

INTO THE LIGHT, AND THEN

SPEND THE REST OF YOUR

LIFE -- THE REST OF YOUR

LIFE -- JUST LOVING AND

EARNING THE OPPORTUNITY TO

BE ONE OF THE GREAT STORIES

OF GOD.

Terry: YOU KNOW, SHAME,

OR ON THE OTHER SIDE,

UNFORGIVENESS, ARE TERRIBLE

BARRIERS THAT KEEP US FROM

KNOWING THE FULLNESS OF LIFE

THAT JESUS SAYS HE CAME TO

GIVE US.

IS SO EASY TO GET CAUGHT UP

IN THINGS THAT PULL US AWAY

FROM GOD, THAT MAKE US LESS

THAN WE WERE CREATED TO BE,

THAT CAN EVEN RUIN

RELATIONSHIPS AND RUIN OUR

OWN LIVES.

ADDICTIONS, ESPECIALLY.

THEY HAVE A POWER OVER US

THAT WE ALLOW TO HAPPEN,

BUT, STILL, ONCE WE'RE

CAUGHT IN THAT, IT'S VERY

DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF IT.

WE'VE SAID BEFORE ON THIS

SHOW THAT SIN WILL DO MORE

TO YOUR LIFE THAN YOU EVER

THOUGHT IT WOULD DO.

IT WILL KEEP YOU LONGER THAN

YOU EVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD

STAY.

IT WILL COST YOU MORE THAN

YOU EVER THOUGHT IT WOULD

COST YOU.

BUT JESUS -- JESUS IS CALLED

THE REDEEMERS BECAUSE HE

CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVES

FREE.

CAN I SAY THAT IS ALL OF

US?

MAYBE PORNOGRAPHY IS NOT

YOUR ADDICTION.

YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A

THOUSAND THINGS THAT CAN

GRAB OUR HEARTS, EVEN THE

SIN OF DISCONTENT, NEVER

HAVING GOD BE ENOUGH.

ALWAYS NEEDING AND WANTING

MORE.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE BOUND BY

MANY, MANY THINGS, AND YET

THE INVITATION IS THERE FOR

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, COME

UNTO ME IF YOU'RE WEARY AND

HEAVY LADEN.

MY BURDEN IS LIGHT.

JESUS SAID HE WANTED YOU TO

HAVE LIFE AND HAVE IT

ABUNDANTLY.

ARE YOU LIVING THAT?

IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU HAVE TO

EXAMINE WHY NOT?

WHAT HAVE I REPLACED YOU

WITH IN MY LIFE?

I LOOK AT CINDY, AND I MARV

EL AT THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO

COME INTO THAT KIND OF

WOUNDING AND UNFAIR

TREATMENT, AND SAY, I INVITE

YOU TO BE PART OF AN ETERNAL

WORK HERE.

WILL YOU COME WITH ME ON

THIS?

ON BOTH SIDES, FOR CHRIS AND

CINDY, IT MEANT SETTING

ASIDE THEIR AGENDAS, WHAT

THEY WANTED, WHAT THEY WERE

HOLDING ON TO, AND WHAT THEY

COULD HAVE HELD ONTO IN

CINDY'S SITUATION, AND AS

THAT PASTOR SAID TO HER, NO

ONE WOULD HAVE FAULTED HER

FOR IT.

BUT GOD SAYS TO EVERY ONE OF

US, I HAVE A PLAN THAT IS

BIGGER THAN YOU.

A PLAN THAT IS BIGGER THAN

WHAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.

IT IS BIGGER THAN WHAT YOU

CAN SEE.

THE QUESTION IS: WILL YOU

COME WITH ME?

YOU SEE, WE CAN'T BE IN

CHARGE AND ASK GOD TO COME

WITH US.

HE IS SAYING, I'M GOD; I'VE

GOT THE PLAN.

BUT MY ARMS ARE OPEN, AND MY

PLANS FOR YOU ARE FOR A HOPE

AND A FUTURE.

THEY'RE FILLED WITH

SWEETNESS AND GOODNESS AND

LOVE.

COME TO JESUS TODAY FOR A

NEW BEGINNING.

LET HIM REDEEM WHAT HAS BEEN

LOST IN YOUR LIFE.

GOD IS NO RESPECTER OF

PERSONS.

IT CAN HAPPEN FOR YOU, TOO.

YOU KNOW THE VERY DREAD THAT

CHRIS FACED, WHEN HE FACED

THAT CONGREGATION, WAS THE

VERY SHAME THAT WAS HOLDING

HIM.

COME FREE.

DON'T LET THAT JUNK KEEP YOU

FROM BEING ALL THAT GOD

CREATED YOU TO BE.

JUST ASK HIM.

CONFESS YOUR SIN.

JESUS, I HAVE BLOWN IT.

I AM A TERRIBLE SINNER, AND

CONFESS THE THINGS YOU NEED

FORGIVENESS FOR.

ASK HIM TO COME INTO YOUR

LIFE.

TELL HIM YOU WANT TO LIVE

FOR HIM.

LEARN TO BE LIKE HIM.

THINK LIKE HIM.

SEE THINGS THE WAY HE SEES

THINGS.

THAT YOU WANT THE POWER OF

HIS SPIRIT ALIVE IN YOU, AND

THANK HIM FOR THE GIFT OF

ETERNAL LIFE.

IT IS A RELATIONSHIP.

IT'S NOT A RELIGION.

IT IS A RELATIONSHIP.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO

PRAY SPECIFICALLY WITH YOU

TODAY ABOUT THE NEED IN YOUR

LIFE, YOU CAN CALL THAT

TOLL-FREE NUMBER,

1-800-759-0700.

JUST SAY, I'D LIKE TO PRAY.

WILL YOU PRAY WITH ME.

THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO

ANSWER THAT PHONE IS

SOMEBODY WHO HAS ALREADY

PRAYED THE SAME PRAYER

YOU'RE CONSIDERING PRAYING

RIGHT NOW.

DON'T WAIT A DAY LONGER.

GOD HAS WAITED ALL THIS TIME

FOR YOU.

WE WANT TO GIVE YOU, ALSO,

WHEN YOU PRAY THAT PRAYER, A

PACKET CALLED "A NEW DAY."

HOW DO YOU GROW IN YOUR

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?

IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING FOR

WITH FORGIVENESS, WE'VE GOT

A GREAT BROCHURE FOR YOU,

TOO.

DO CALL SOMEONE RIGHT NOW.

PAT?

Pat: STILL AHEAD, WE'VE

GOT YOUR E-MAIL.

MICHELLE SAYS, "WHEN YOU'RE

SPOUSE TELLS YOU THAT HE

ISN'T IN LOVE WITH YOU

ANYMORE, IS THERE ANY HOPE

TO CHANGE HIS MIND AND FIND

LOVE AGAIN?"

WELL, WE'LL GIVE A SHOUT AT

MICHELLE'S QUESTION AND MORE

WHEN WE "BRING IT ON" AFTER

THIS BREAK.

Reporter: WELCOME BACK

TO WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN

NEWS BREAK.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NAMED

MELISSA ROGERS AS THE NEW

DIRECTOR OF THE WHITE HOUSE

OFFICE OF FAITH-BASED AND

NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIPS.

SHE SERVED AS AN ATTORNEY

FOR THE BAPTIST JOINT

COMMITTEE FOR RELIGIOUS

LIBERTY.

IN HER NEW ROLE, SHE'LL

FOCUS ON POLICY GOALS THAT

INCLUDE REDUCING IN INTENDED

PREGNANCIES, PROMOTING

POSSIBLE FATHERHOOD AND

IMPROVING INTERFACE

DIALOGUE.

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS

FINALLY HAMMERED TOGETHER A

COALITION GOVERNMENT, SIX

WEEKS AFTER WINNING

RE-ELECTION.

HIS TWO MAIN COALITION

PARTNERS ARE POLITICAL

NEWCOMERS.

HE FORMED THE GOVERNMENT

JUST IN TIME FOR PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S VISIT.

HE IS HOPING THE PRESIDENT

WILL GET A BETTER

UNDERSTANDING OF THE

CHALLENGES THEIR COUNTRY

FACES.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: WE WANT TO TAKE

SOME TIME TO ANSWER SOME OF

THE E-MAIL QUESTIONS YOU

SENT IN.

PAT, THIS FIRST ONE IS FROM

MICHELLE, WHO SAYS, "WHEN

YOUR SPOUSE TELLS YOU HE

ISN'T IN LOVE WITH YOU

ANYMORE, IS THERE ANY HOPE

TO CHANGE HIS MIND AND FIND

LOVE AGAIN.

WE'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 25

YEARS.

I STILL LOVE HIM SO VERY

MUCH."

Pat: THIS WHOLE CONCEPT

OF RO ROMANTIC LOVE DOESN'T

APPEAR THAT MUCH IN THE

BIBLE.

MARRIAGE IS DIFFERENT THAN

WHAT WE HEAR IN HOLLYWOOD.

WE GO THROUGH CHANGES.

MEN GO THROUGH CHANGES.

YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 25

YEARS.

LET'S ASSUME YOU GOT MARRIED

WHEN YOU WERE 25.

NOW YOUR HUSBAND IS 50,

RIGHT?

SO HE'S GOING THROUGH ALL

KINDS OF HORMONAL CHANGES.

MEN HAVE A MALE MENOPAUSE,

JUST LIKE WOMEN, EXCEPT THEY

DON'T GET HOTFLASHES.

SO ALL OF A SUDDEN HIS WHOLE

LIFE IS TURNED UP SIDE

DOWN.

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHO HE IS,

WHERE HE IS GOING.

HE THINKS HE HAS HIT A

WALL.

HE HAS CLIMBED EVERY

MOUNTAIN HE CAN CLIMB, AND

HE DOESN'T SEE ANYTHING IN

THE FUTURE.

AND HE IS REFLECTING SOME OF

THAT ON YOU.

ALL I CAN SAY IS HANG IN

THERE.

IT MAY BE THAT HE IS GOING

TO GO LOOK FOR SOME

20-YEAR-OLD CHORUS GIRL AND

SAY SHE IS THE ANSWER TO MY

PROBLEM.

BUT SHE'S NOT.

AND NONE OF THEM ARE.

SO IF YOU WILL CONTINUE TO

TELL HIM YOU LOVE HIM, AND

CONTINUE TO SHOW LOVE AND

OPENNESS AND FRIENDSHIP AND

UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S GOING

THROUGH, MAYBE, MAYBE,

MAYBE -- YOU SAY CAN GOD

BRING US BACK TOGETHER?

I THINK AFTER 25 YEARS, YOU

SHARED SOME PRETTY

SIGNIFICANT THINGS.

YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT

CHILDREN, BUT IF YOU'VE

RAISED CHILDREN TOGETHER,

YOU'VE HAD SORROW TOGETHER,

YOU'VE HAD DISEASE AND

SICKNESS TOGETHER, YOU'VE

HAD TRIPS TOGETHER, YOU'VE

HAD FINANCIAL CRISES

TOGETHER -- YOU'VE BUILT UP

A WEB OF RELATIONSHIPS THAT

YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO BLOW

UP, AND I DON'T THINK HE

DOES, EITHER.

SO ASK GOD TO SPEAK TO HIM.

IN THE MEANTIME, LET HIM

KNOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND,

THAT YOU'RE WITH HIM, AND

SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

YOU SAID IS THERE ANY WAY?

BUT THIS ROMANTIC LOVE

STUFF, I'M NOT IN LOVE WITH

YOU ANYMORE, THAT DOESN'T

CUT IT IN THE BIBLE.

Terry: ANN SAYS, "DO

YOU THINK SOCIETY WOULD HAVE

A STRONGER MARRIAGE RATE IF

WE LEARNED AT CHILDREN HOW

TO BE GOOD HUSBANDS AND

WIVES?"

Pat:

I GREW UP IN A

FAMILY WHERE DIVORCE WAS

UNDREAMED OF.

MY WIFE GREW UP IN A FAMILY

WHERE DIVORCE WAS UNDREAMED

OF.

MY CHILDREN HAVE GROWN UP IN

A FAMILY WHERE DIVORCE WAS

UNDREAMED OF.

AS A RESULT, THEY SEE YOU.

BOYS WILL MODEL AFTER THEIR

FATHERS.

GIRLS WILL MODEL AFTER THEIR

MOTHERS.

THE RELATIONSHIP, WHAT A

FATHER DOES WITH A MOTHER,

WILL BE THE TEMPLATE OF HOW

A YOUNG MAN WANTS TO TREAT

HIS SPOUSE BECAUSE HE HAS

SEEN IT.

SOME ARE SO GROSS, AND THEY

SAY I DON'T WANT TO EVER DO

WHAT MY FATHER DID AND THEY

GO ACTING IN THE OTHER

DIRECTION.

BUT IF THERE IS LOVE AND

HARMONY, THEY SAY HOW DID

DADDY DO IT, HOW DID MOTHER

DO IT?

TEACH ME.

IT IS PART OF THE CULTURE.

THAT'S WHAT YOU ASKED.

I THINK IF WE MODEL

SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGES, OUR

CHILDREN WILL COPY US, DON'T

YOU THINK?

Terry: SURE.

THIS IS FROM A VIEWER WHO

SAYS, "MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE

BEEN MARRIED FOR 13 YEARS,

BUT HE DIVORCED ME TWO YEARS

AGO.

OUR MARRIAGE DID NOT END

BECAUSE OF ADULTERY, SO

WOULD IT BE A SIN IF I

PRAYED FOR ANOTHER

HUSBAND?"

Pat: THE APOSTLE PAUL

SAID, LOOK, IF YOU'VE GOT AN

UNBELIEVING SPOUSE AND

THEY'RE PLEASED TO STAY WITH

YOU, HANG AROUND.

BUT IN THE UNBELIEVER WANTS

TO LEAVE, THEN LET THEM

DEPART.

THE BROTHER OR SISTER IS NOT

BOUND IN THAT CASE.

SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR

HUSBAND, BUT IF, INDEED, HE

IS AN UNBELIEVER, AND HE HAS

LEFT YOU, REGARDLESS OF THE

CAUSE, HE HAS LEFT YOU, THEN

ACCORDING TO WHAT'S CALLED

THE PAULINE PRIVILEGE, YOU

ARE NOT BOUND TO THAT

RELATIONSHIP.

SO YOU SAY IS IT RIGHT TO

START PRAYING FOR ANOTHER?

YOU LOVE BEING MARRIED.

YOU WANT A LIFE PARTNER.

AND IF YOU ASK GOD FOR

ANOTHER, THAT'S CHRISTIAN.

AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG

WITH THAT.

Terry: THANK YOU FOR

YOUR QUESTIONS, EVERYBODY.

WE LOVE HEARING FROM YOU.

WE WANT TO MOVE TO ANOTHER

AREA RIGHT NOW.

THE WORKING MOM IN OUR NEXT

STORY HAD A HIGH-RISK JOB

BUT WITH VERY LOW PAY.

BUT NOW THE SHE HAS A VERY

SAFE WORKPLACE.

AND NOW SHE IS MAKING IN ONE

WEEK WHAT IT USED TO TAKE A

WHOLE MONTH TO MAKE, THANKS

TO "OPERATION BLESSING."

Reporter: FOR THE PAST

TWO YEARS, 30 YEARS YOLINDA

IS WORKING.

SHE MAKES JEWELRY.

ON A GOOD DAY, SHE MAKE

ABOUT $7.

BUT EARNING ENOUGH MONEY IS

NOT HER ONLY CONCERN.

I WAS AFRAID BECAUSE IT

WAS NOT SAFE FOR ME TO SELL

MY JEWELRY ON THE SIDEWALK

WITH NO ONE ELSE AROUND.

I HAVE BEEN ROBBED TWO

DIFFERENT TIMES.

I WAS SO SCARED WHEN THAT

MAN STOLE MY MAMA'S THINGS.

YOLINDA IS A SINGLE MOTHER.

SHE HAS BEEN TRYING TO FIND

A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT

FOR THE GIRLS TO GROW UP IN,

BUT MOST OF THE TIME, SHE

HAS TO BRING THE YOUNGEST

ALONG WITH HER SINCE HER

OLDER DAUGHTERS ARE IN

SCHOOL.

I WOULD WALK AROUND ALL

OF THE MARKETS, TRYING TO

FIND A GOOD PLACE TO SELL,

WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS TIRED

AND HUNGRY.

Reporter: SO "OPERATION

BLESSING" TURNED HER DREAM

INTO A REALITY.

WE PROVIDED HER WITH MONEY

TO EXPAND HER BUSINESS, AND

ARRANGED FOR HER TO HAVE A

STALL IN THE MARKETPLACE FOR

SIX MONTHS, RENT-FREE.

THANKS TO "OPERATION

BLESSING," MY INCOME HAS

REALLY GROWN.

I CAN NOW EARN IN ONE WEEK

WHAT IT TOOK ME A WHOLE

MONTH TO EARN BEFORE.

Reporter: YOLINDA NOW

HAS A SAFE PLACE TO WORK AND

CAN PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE

FOR HER CHILDREN, AND THAT'S

GIVING THEM ALL A LOT OF

HOPE.

NOW I CAN SHARE MORE TIME

WITH MY DAUGHTERS.

WE CAN GO TO THE CITY PARK

AND I CAN BUY THE THINGS

THEY NEED.

THANK YOU, "OPERATION

BLESSING," FOR HELPING MY

MOMMY.

Terry: A SINGLE MOM, A

HARD WORKER, TRYING TO MAKE

A WAY FOR HER AND HER

CHILDREN.

YOU STEPPED INTO THE MIDDLE

OF HER NEED AND YOU PROVIDED

EVERYTHING SHE NEEDED TO

HAVE DIGNITY, HOPE, AND A

FUTURE.

"700 CLUB" MEMBERS, YOU'RE

DOING THAT ALL AROUND THE

WORLD EVERY DAY.

FOR THOSE YOU WHO HAVE NOT

GONE TO THE PHONE AND CALLED

YET, THIS IS THE TIME.

1-800-759-0700.

JUST SAY, I WANT TO JOIN

"THE 700 CLUB," 65 CENTS A

DAY, $20 A MONTH, MAKES YOU

A "THE 700 CLUB" MEMBER.

IF YOU DO IT USING PLEDGE

EXPRESS, THAT MEANS YOUR

BANK DOES ALL OF THE WORK.

IT SAVES YOU LOTS OF HASSLE,

BUT IT ALSO SAVES US SOME

COSTS THAT WE CAN PUT

DIRECTLY INTO THE LIVES INTO

PEOPLE LIKE YOLINDA.

AND OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK

YOU IS TO SEND YOU "POWER

FOR LIFE TEACHINGS."

WE THINK THEY'LL TOUCH YOUR

LIFE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

CALL NOW.

YOU CAN BE A WORLD CHANGER

AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

Pat: AND TOMORROW THE

OAK RIDGE BOYS ARE HERE WITH

US.

THEY'RE CELEBRATING SOME

KIND OF AN ANNIVERSARY.

Terry: RUBY, I THINK,

RUBY ANNIVERSARY.

Pat: OKAY.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM LUKE: "FORGIVE

AND YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN."

THAT WORKS WITH MARRIAGES

AND IT WORKS IN ALL OUR

LIVES.

THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING

WITH US.

AND WE'LL BE TALKING TO YOU

TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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