Lee: THE PRAYER THAT
WENT VIRAL.
NOBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT
THAT.
Lee: AND TURNED ONE DOC
INTO A HERO.
DR. BEN CARSON TELLS US WHY
HE WENT OFF-SCRIPT AND
SHARES HIS PRESCRIPTION FOR
OBAMACARE.
PLUS, A SHOCKING EXPOSE INTO
AMERICA'S TOP UNIVERSITIES,
WHERE THE PROFESSORS ARE
PORN STARS, AND YOU WON'T
BELIEVE WHAT IS IN THE
LESSON PLAN.
AUTHOR NATHAN HARDEN DISHES
THE DIRT IN HIS BOOK "SEX
AND GOD AT YALE," ON TODAY'S
"THE 700 CLUB."
*
[APPLAUSE]
Pat: WELCOME TO THIS
EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."
FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 1300
YEARS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
HAS ELECTED A NON-EUROPEAN
AS POPE.
AND HE IS FROM
LATIN-AMERICA.
AND HE'S -- WELL, WE'LL SEE
HOW IT WORKS OUT, BUT FROM
ALL INDICATIONS, HE IS A
HUMBLE, WONDERFUL MAN.
AND WE HAVE SOME TESTIMONY
FROM SOMEBODY WHO KNEW HIM
VERY WELL IN BUENOS AIRES.
Terry: THAT IS PRETTY
EXCITING.
CARDINAL JORGE BERGOGLIO
FROM ARGENTINA IS NOW POPE
FRANCIS.
Reporter: THE ELECTION
OF POPE FRANCIS I IS A
SERIES OF FIRST.
THE FIRST MODERN EUROPEAN
POPE, THE FIRST FROM THE JES
JESUIT POPE.
CBN SPOKE TO LOUIS PALAL,
WHO MET THE POPE SEVERAL
TIMES.
THE MOST SURPRISING THING
TO ME IS HE IS A GREAT
FRIEND OF THE EVANGELICALS.
HE IS A FRIEND.
I WAS SO IMPRESSED THAT HE
REALLY DOES KNOW JESUS
CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR.
I SAY IT CAREFULLY BECAUSE
THE WAY HE PRAYED IS A
PRAYER OF A CHILD OF GOD
SPEAKING TO HIS HEAVENLY
FATHER.
Lee: ON THE SECOND DAY
OF HIS CONCLAVE, HIS
ELECTION HAD PEOPLE WAITING
AND WATCHING.
WE'RE HERE AT ST. PETER'S
SQUARE, AND THE SMOKE WENT
OUT FROM THE SISTINE CHAPEL,
AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY WHITE.
THE CROWD IS ESTATIC.
Reporter: YOU CAN HEAR
THE BELLS OF ST. PETER'S
RINGING, AND CONFIRMED THAT
THE SMOKE WAS WHITE.
SOMETIMES THERE IS A
QUESTION MARK.
THERE IS A NEW POPE.
WE HAVE A POPE.
ABOUT AN HOUR LATER, THE
WORLD MET POPE FRANCIS.
THOUSANDS HAVE FLOCKED TO
THE SQUARE ITSELF.
AND THOUSANDS MORE CAME WHEN
THE WHITE SMOKE CAME OUT OF
THE SISTINE CHAPEL.
AND NOW HE IS MAKING HIS
FIRST ADDRESS TO THE WORLD.
Reporter: ONE OF HIS
FIRST ACTS AS POPE WAS A
PRAYER REQUEST, THAT THE
PEOPLE WOULD PRAY A SILENT
PRAYER FOR HIM.
MANY LATINOS IN THE CROWD
SAID GET READY FOR A
LATIN-AMERICAN POPE.
AS I HEARD POPE FRANCIS
GIVING HIS FINAL BLESSING
AND HIS FINAL GOOD-BYE, YOU
COULD SENSE THE SOUTH
AMERICAN FLAVOR, THAT IS
VERY UNIQUE.
YOU CAN'T SAY WHAT YOU
FEEL.
THIS IS LIKE PEOPLE FROM
YOUR BLOOD, PEOPLE -- HE
UNDERSTANDS.
YOU CAN TRUST ME.
THIS GENTLEMAN IS GOING TO
DO SO WELL.
THE POPE WE HAVE TODAY IS A
SIGNAL OF WHAT WE ARE GOING
TO EXPERIENCE IN THESE
DAYS.
A FRIEND OF THE PEOPLE.
Lee: NOW POPE FRANCIS
FACES THE DAUNTING TASK OF
LEAVING THE CATHOLIC
CHURCH.
MANY CATHOLICS ARE
REDISCOVERING THE GREAT
COMMISSION.
THE CRITICAL ASPECT OF
THAT IS THIS MANDATE WE HAVE
TO SHARE THE GOSPEL, NOT
JUST LIVE THE GOSPEL.
AND EVANGELICALS DO THAT A
LOT BETTER THAN CATHOLICS
DO.
AND SO THAT OAT'S A HUGE
PART OF IT.
KNOWING YOUR FAITH, LIVING
YOUR FAITH, AND SHARING IT.
BECAUSE IF YOU BELIEVE IT IS
TRUE, WHY WOULDN'T YOU SHARE
IT.
Reporter: AND MANY HOPE
POPE FRANCIS WILL HELP
SPREAD THE GOOD NEWS OF
JESUS TO THE WORLD.
ST. PETER'S SQUARE, VATICAN
CITY.
Pat: HE STARTS OUT WITH
AN ENORMOUS SENSE OF
GOODWILL.
WE SHARE IN THE BLESSING AND
THE GOODWILL.
THE STRONG STANCE THAT THE
CATHOLIC CHURCH TAKES IN
RELATION TO MORALITY AND
TRADITIONAL VALUES, AND I
THINK THAT THIS POPE IS
GOING TO BE LOVED.
BUT THEY KEEP PUTTING IN
OLDER GUYS.
HE IS 76, AND HE IS NOT
GOING TO LIVE A LONG TIME.
YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD
FIND SOMEBODY IN THEIR
50s, THAT HAS 20 OR 25
YEARS, BUT THEY DON'T.
Terry: WELL, YOU CAN DO
A LOT IF YOU'RE
CONDITIONED.
Pat: THE POWER OF ALL
OF THAT MACHINERY BEHIND
YOU, YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH A
GREAT DEAL.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE TO YOU A
MAN WHO WENT FROM BEING ONE
OF THE MOST FAMOUS SURGEONS
IN THE COUNTRY TO ONE OF THE
HOTTEST NAMES IN POLITICS.
JUST ONE SPEECH DID IT.
AND NOW HE IS A FEATURED
SPEAKER AT THE CONSERVATIVE
POLITICAL ACTION CONFERENCE
IN WASHINGTON, WHICH STARTS
TODAY.
JENNIFER WISHON TELLS US
DR. BEN CARSON IS SAYING --
WELL, WHAT HE IS GOING TO BE
SAYING TO POLITICAL LEADERS
AND TO AMERICA.
Reporter: HE'S KNOWN
AROUND THE WORLD FOR HIS
GROUNDBREAKING WORK AS A
NEUROSURGEON, BUT HE HAS
BOTTOM A SOUGHT-AFTER
SPEAKER FOR CONSERVATIVES
AFTER HIS HEADLINE GRABBING
SPEECH AT THE NATIONAL
PRAYER BREAKFAST.
THAT'S WHERE HE DECLARED
JESUS CHRIST AS HIS ROLE
MODEL, AND APPLIED BIBLICAL
SCRIPTURES TO HEALTH CARE
AND TAXES.
ALL WHILE SITTING INCHES
FROM THE COMMANDER IN
CHIEF.
WHEN A PERSON IS BORN,
GIVE HIM A BIRTH CERT
CERTIFCATE, AND A SAVINGS
ACCOUNT.
AND WHEN YOU DIE, YOU CAN
CAN PASS IT ON TO YOUR
FAMILY MEMBERS, SO WHEN
YOU'RE 85 YEARS OLD AND
YOU'VE GOT SIX DISEASES,
YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO SPEND
UP EVERYTHING.
YOU'RE HAPPY TO PASS IT ON.
Reporter: CARSON SAYS
HE THINKS ABOUT PROBLEMS
FACING THE U.S. ALL OF THE
TIME, AND BELIEVES POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS IS RESTRAINING
THE AMERICAN GUARANTEE OF
FREE EXPRESSION AND SPEECH.
IT PUTS A MUZZLE ON THEM,
AND AT THE SAME TIME KEEPS
PEOPLE FROM DISCUSSING
IMPORTANT ISSUES WHILE THE
FABRIC OF THIS SOCIETY IS
BEING CHANGED.
Reporter: CARSON SAYS
IT IS A SHAME MORE DOCTORS
AREN'T INVOLVED IN
GOVERNMENT, LEAVING MANY
WONDERING IF THE FAMOUS
SURGEON HAS FUTURE PLANS FOR
POLITICAL OFFICE.
JENNIFER WISHON, CBN NEWS.
Pat: WELL, BEN CARSON
IS A DEAR FRIEND.
HE HAS BEEN A BOARD MEMBER
OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES AT
REGENT YMP UNIVERSITY FOR A
NUMBER OF YEARS.
HE HOLDS OVER 50 HONORARY
DEGREES.
HE IS A VERY HUMBLE MAN, AND
A DEAR GUY, AND HE LOVES
JESUS.
BEN CARSON, THANKS FOR BEING
WITH US.
ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Pat: DID YOU THINK YOU
WERE GOING TO GET INTO THIS
KIND OF A SITUATION?
THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOUR
HIGHLIGHTING THE C-PACK
CONFERENCE.
WHAT WAS IT?
THE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT
AT THE PRAYER BREAKFAST ARE
THE SAME THINGS I'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT FOR 20 YEARS.
AND FOR 20 YEARS, PEOPLE
HAVE BEEN TELLING ME I
SHOULD GO INTO POLITICS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T
FELT THAT PARTICULAR CALLING
FROM GOD YET.
HE WORKS IN LOTS OF
DIFFERENT WAYS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANT
THING, I THINK, IS TO OPEN
PEOPLE'S EYES AND HELP THEM
TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS
THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA.
THIS IS NOT SOME
EUROPEAN-STYLE COUNTRY.
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE
FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM
OF EXPRESSION, IS ONE OF THE
PILLARS OF OUR SOCIETY.
THIS IS A PLACE WHERE WE'RE
ALL SUPPOSED TO BE EQUAL
UNDER THE LAW.
THIS IS NOT A PLACE WHERE WE
DIVIDE OURSELVES UP IN TERMS
OF OUR SOCIAL ECONOMIC
STATUS OR IN TERMS OF OUR
RACE OR IN TERMS OF OUR
AGE.
WE NEED TO HAVE COMMON
GOALS.
WE HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON
THAN WE HAVE APART.
AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS
ALLOWED CERTAIN POLITICIANS
TO DIVIDE US UP FOR THEIR
OWN POLITICAL ADVANTAGE.
Pat: SPEAKING OF
POLITICIANS, YOU HAD THE
NUMBER ONE POLITICIAN IN THE
NATION SITTING NEXT TO YOU
AT THAT SPEECH.
SOME PEOPLE THINK YOU
INSULTED HIM, AND SOME THINK
YOU WERE JUST TELLING THE
TRUTH AND YOU DID IT IN
LOVE.
IF YOU'RE NOT GUILTY OF
ANY OF THE ACCUSATIONS, THEN
IT SHOULDN'T BE INSULTING TO
YOU.
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: YOU DON'T THINK HE
IS GUILTY, OR YOU'RE NOT
SAYING.
WHAT WAS THE BASIS OF WHAT
YOU WERE SAYING, THOUGH?
YOU WERE ADDRESSING THE --
YOU TALKED ABOUT GOD'S
SYSTEM OF FINANCE.
YEAH.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE POINT
THAT WAS MAKING THERE IS
THAT IF GOD THINKS
PROPORTIONALITY IS FAIR, WHO
ARE WE TO SAY THAT IT
ISN'T?
HE HAS A VERY, VERY
EXCELLENT SYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, WITH TITHING.
YOU MAKE $10 BILLION, YOU
PUT A BILLION IN THE POT.
YOU MAKE $10, YOU PUT ONE IN
THE POT.
THE GUY WHO PUT A BILLION
INPUT A BILLION TIMES MORE
THAN THE GUY WHO PUT ONE IN,
AND YET HE DOESN'T GET ANY
SPECIAL ADVANTAGES.
THAT'S AN INCREDIBLY FAIR
SYSTEM.
AND THE OTHER THING IS
EVERYBODY HAS SKIN IN THE
GAME.
IF EVERYBODY HAS SKIN IN THE
GAME, IT MAKES THE
GOVERNMENT NECESSARILY
RESPONSIBLE BECAUSE THEY
CAN'T WILLY-NILLY RAISE
TAXES.
BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A
RESPONSIBILITY.
SO NOW YOU'VE GOT TO BE VERY
CAREFUL AND YOU'VE GOT TO
REALLY JUSTIFY WHAT YOU'RE
DOING.
MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T
REALLY CARE ABOUT SOMETHING
BAD THAT IS HAPPENING TO
SOMEBODY ELSE, AS LONG AS IT
IS NOT AFFECTING THEM.
THEREFORE YOU PUT EVERYBODY
IN THE GAME.
Pat: WHAT ABOUT HEALTH
CARE?
YOU, OF COURSE, BECAME
FAMOUS WHEN YOU SEPARATED
CONJOINED TWINS.
WHAT ABOUT THIS OBAMACARE?
WELL, YOU KNOW,
OBAMACARE, OR, YOU KNOW,
WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL
IT, HAS NOT REALLY HAD THE
DESIRED EFFECT.
IT IS COSTING A LOT MORE
THAN WAS ANTICIPATED.
IT IS FORCING A LOT OF
EMPLOYERS, PARTICULARLY
SMALL BUSINESSES, TO ALTER
THEIR HIRING PRACTICES, TO
BRING ON PEOPLE AS PART-TIME
WORKERS SO THAT THEY DON'T
HAVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH
THIS VERY EXPENSIVE
ENDEAVOR.
NONE OF THAT IS USEFUL,
PARTICULAR WHEN WE HAVE
OTHER POSSIBILITIES.
FOR INSTANCE, HEALTH SAVINGS
ACCOUNTS.
WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH MONEY
IN THE SYSTEM TO PAY FOR THE
HEALTH SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO
SAY PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO
CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE, THEY
DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO
CONTRIBUTE TO THOSE.
IF WE USE THE SAME MONEY
WE'RE ALREADY USING AND PUT
THEM INTO PEOPLE'S
INDIVIDUAL HEALTH SAVINGS
ACCOUNTS.
BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE
CONTROL OVER THAT ACCOUNT.
WHICH MEANS THEY'RE GOING TO
START SHOPPING FOR THE BEST
BARGAINS.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO
THE EMERGENCY ROOM WHERE IT
COSTS FIVE TIMES MORE TO GET
SOMETHING TAKEN CARE OF.
THEY'RE GOING TO GO TO THE
CLINIC.
NOT ONLY ARE THEY GOING TO
GET THEIR PROBLEM SOLVED,
BUT THEY'RE GOING TO SAY,
LET'S GET YOUR CHRONIC
ISSUES UNDER CONTROL SO
YOU'RE NOT BACK HERE IN
THREE WEEKS WITH THE SAME
PROBLEM.
WHY DON'T WE TALK ABOUT
SOLVING PROBLEMS RATHER THAN
SETTING OURSELVES UP IN
OPPOSITION.
EVERYTHING IS A CHALLENGE.
YOU SAY SOMETHING, YOU'RE
ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT.
HOW COME WE CAN'T SIT DOWN
AND HAVE A DECENT
CONVERSATION ABOUT HOW TO
SOLVE PROBLEMS?
Pat: YOU'RE A YOUNG
GUY.
WHAT IS THIS RETIREMENT
BUSINESS?
IS THERE A LIMIT AT WHICH
YOU CAN DO THIS COMPLEX
NEUROSURGERY?
WELL, YOU KNOW, PILOTS
ARE FORCED TO RETIRE WHILE
THEY STILL ARE RELATIVELY
YOUNG AND HEALTHY.
AND YOU HAVE TO STOP AND ASK
YOURSELF WHY IS THAT?
THEY DON'T WAIT UNTIL THEY
START CRASHING AIRPLANES.
AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER
IS, AS YOU GET OLDER, YOUR
VISION DECREASES, YOUR
AGILITY DECREASES, YOUR
STAMINA DECREASES.
ALL OF THESE THINGS HAPPEN,
AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS
THAT AS A SURGEON,
PARTICULARLY DOING A LOT OF
DELICATE THINGS, YOU NEED TO
KNOW WHEN TO STOP.
AND YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE
YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT
YOU CAN DO.
I HAVE PLENTY OF OTHER
THINGS TO DO.
I MAY HAVE TO GO BACK TO
WORK TO GET A BREAK.
[LAUGHTER]
Pat: AS MUCH AS I WOULD
LOVE TO SEE YOU IN A
LEADERSHIP ROLE, I HOPE AND
PRAY THE LORD DOESN'T LEAD
YOU INTO POLITICS.
YOU'RE TOO VALUABLE.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I HOPE HE DOESN'T LEAD ME
THERE, EITHER.
BUT I HOPE HE DOES USE ME TO
HELP STIMULATE THE
DISCUSSION, AND HELP PEOPLE
TO RECOGNIZE THAT WE, THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE, ARE NOT
EACH OTHER'S ENEMIES, NO
MATTER HOW PEOPLE TRY TO
CARVE US UP.
WE HAVE MUCH MORE IN COMMON
THAN WE HAVE APART, AND WE
NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO
SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS, STOP
DEMONIZING EACH OTHER AND
GET TO WORK.
Pat: YOU'RE A GREAT
VOICE OF REASON.
THANK YOU.
DR. BEN CARSON, A DEAR
FRIEND, HEAD OF PEDIATRIC
NEUROSURGERY.
Terry: I HOPE HE
CONTINUES TO BE A VOICE FOR
THE SOCIETY.
Pat: YOU KNOW HE IS
GOING TO BE.
Terry: HE HAS GOT A LOT
TO SAY.
COMING UP NEXT, VIEWER
DISCRETION IS ADVISED.
STAY TUNED FOR AN APPALLING
REPORT ON SEX WEEK AT YALE.
AND A WARNING THAT THIS
COULD BE COMING TO YOUR
CHILD'S UNIVERSITY.
Pat: LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, I, YOUR HUMBLE
HOST ON THIS PROGRAM, I'M A
GRADUATE OF THE YALE LAW
SCHOOL.
MY SON, GORDON, IS A YALE
UNDERGRADUATE SCHOOL
GRADUATE.
A NUMBER OF PRESIDENTS OF
THE UNITED STATES HAVE BEEN
GRADUATES OF YALE, A NUMBER
OF SUPREME COURT JUSTICES --
WHEN I WAS IN YALE, THERE
WAS A GUY NAMED WILLIAM
DOUGLAS WHO WENT TO THE
SUPREME COURT.
CLARENCE THOMAS WAS A YALEY,
AS WAS ILLITO, A GREAT GUY.
THIS IS A SCHOOL THAT TRAINS
LEADERS, LEADERS.
THEY HAVE A SOCIETY CALLED
SKULL AND BONES, ONE OF
THOSE SECRET SOCIETIES,
WHICH -- WELL, WHICH
SHEPHERDS THE SONS OF THE
RICH AND FAMOUS AND PREPARES
THEM TO LEAD THE WORLD.
AND EVERY YEAR THOUSANDS OF
HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS APPLY
TO AMERICA'S TOP UNIVERSITY,
NOT JUST YALE, BUT HARVARD
AND M.I.T. AND THESE OTHERS,
AND THEY'RE HOPING TO GET A
WORLD CLASS EDUCATION.
BUT IS YALE REALLY DOING
IT?
IS THAT EDUCATION WHAT IT
USED TO BE?
IT NOW COMES WITH SOME
SHOCKING EXTRAS.
LEE WEBB EXPLAINS WHAT WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT.
Lee: FOR A GLIMPSE INTO
AMERICA'S FUTURE, LOOK NO
FURTHER THAN ITS COLLEGE
CAMPUSES.
AMERICAN HIGHER EDUCATION IS
IN MORAL AND ACADEMIC
DECLINE.
SO SAYS NATHAN HARDEN, A
2009 YALE GRADUATE WHO HAS
WRITTEN "SEX AND GOD AT
YALE, PORN, POLITICAL
CORRECTNESS, AND A GOOD
EDUCATION GONE BAD."
HE SAYS YALE'S HIGHLY
PUBLICIZED SEX WEEK IS ONE
EXAMPLE OF THE MORAL CRISIS
AFFECTING AMERICAN HIGHER
EDUCATION.
DURING SEX WEEK, PORN STARS
AND C.E.O.s ARE INVITED ON
CAMPUS FOR SEMINARS AND
PRODUCT DEMONSTRATIONS, ALL
SANCTIONED BY THE
UNIVERSITY.
OTHER UNIVERSITIES HAVE
FOLLOWED SUIT AND OFFERED
THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF SEX
WEEK.
HARDEN SAYS THIS UNDERSCORES
THE LOSS OF PURPOSE THAT
PERPERMEATES EDUCATION
TODAY.
HE POINTS OUT IT HAS LEFT US
WITH UNIVERSITIES THAT SEEM
TO NO LONGER KNOW WHAT IS
AND ISN'T WORTH TEACHING IN
THEIR CLASSROOMS.
Pat: BILL BUCKLEY WROTE
A BOOK CALLED "GOD, MAN, AND
YALE," AND HE WAS IN THE
CLASS OF '50s, WHICH WAS
MY CLASS IN COLLEGE.
AND HE WAS A BRILLIANT
EXPOSETER OF TRADITIONAL
VALUES, BUT WHAT HE HAD TO
SAY IS TAME COMPARED TO WHAT
IS IN THIS BOOK CALLED "SEX
AND GOD AT YALE," WRITTEN BY
A GENTLEMAN NAMED NATHAN
HARDEN, WHO ALSO IS A YALE
GRADUATE.
NATHAN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU
HERE.
GOOD TO BE HERE, PAT.
Pat: THIS IS AN
INCREDIBLE SHOCK.
IT SHOULD HAVE A BROWN
WRAPPER AROUND IT.
IT IS A SHOCKER.
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I ARRIVED
AT YALE AND FOUND THERE WERE
A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON
THAT I CERTAINLY HAD NO
EXPECTATIONS OF PRIOR TO
ARRIVING THERE.
I THINK LIKE A LOT OF
PEOPLE, I THOUGHT OF YALE AS
AN ELITE INSTITUTION WITH A
LOT OF HIGH-MINDED,
INTELLECTUAL IDEALS, AND TO
SOME EXTENT, THAT IS TRUE,
BUT THERE IS ALSO A RADICAL
MORAL AGENDA THERE.
AND I FOUND THIS MOST
DISTURBINGLY IN THE
SO-CALLED SEX WEEK AT YALE,
WHICH IS A SPECIAL SERIES OF
EVENTS THAT ARE DONE EVERY
YEAR NOW ON SEX-RELATED
THEMES.
Pat: THAT'S SPONSORED
BY THE UNIVERSITY?
WELL, OFFICIALLY IT'S RUN
AND ORGANIZED BY STUDENTS.
BUT THE ADMINISTRATION
APPROVES THE USE OF YALE
CLASSROOMS ON AN EVENT BY
EVENT BASIS.
SO A LOT OF THE SPONSORSHIP,
UNFORTUNATELY, HAS COME FROM
THE SEX INDUSTRY, WHETHER IT
BE PORN COMPANIES, SEX TOY
MANUFACTURERS, AND SO FORTH,
HAVE BEEN FUNDING THESE.
AND BASICALLY TURNING THE
CLASSROOM AT YALE INTO A
MARKETING FORM FOR
PORNOGRAPHY.
SO I SAW, FOR EXAMPLE, LIVE
DEMONSTRATIONS OF A TOPLESS
PORN STAR, DEMONSTRATING HER
PSEUDO MASOCHISTIC
TECHNIQUES IN THE
CLASSROOM.
Pat: THIS IS A
CLASSROOM AT YALE, THE
HALLOWED HALLS OF IVY.
THESE WERE CLASSROOMS
WHERE I STUDIED SHAKESPEARE,
DONTE --
Pat: HOW MANY STUDENTS
WERE IN THESE CLASSES?
HUNDREDS.
AND THERE WERE SOME THINGS
THAT WERE SO GRAPHIC I CAN'T
REALLY TALK ABOUT THEM ON
TELEVISION.
BUT NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT
INVOLVED EVERYTHING FROM
GRAPHIC DEMONSTRATIONS OF
ORAL SEX TO ACTUAL SCREENING
OF HARD-CORE, VIOLENT
PORNOGRAPHY IN THE
CLASSROOM.
AND THIS IS AT A UNIVERSITY
THAT CLAIMS THEY ARE FOR
WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
BUT I SAW WOMEN OPENLY
DEMEANED AND OBJECTIFIED
THROUGH THIS VIOLENT PORN.
I WAS OUTRAGED BY IT.
Pat: YOU'VE GOT A PORN
STAR UP IN FRONT OF A CLASS
OF A COUPLE HUNDRED
STUDENTS.
300, 400 -- HOW MANY?
IN ONE CASE, THERE WAS
MORE THAN A THOUSAND.
Pat: A THOUSAND
STUDENTS.
AND SHE IS TALKING ABOUT
PSEUDO MASOCHISM?
THAT'S RIGHT.
AND THAT INVOLVES VIOLENCE
IN A SEXUAL CONTEXT.
TO ME, WHAT WAS SHOCKING WAS
NOT SO MUCH THE MORAL
QUESTION, BUT THE FACT OF
WHERE IT WAS BEING DONE.
ANYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN
A YALE CLASSROOM, WHETHER
THE UNIVERSITY AND
ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO
ADMIT IT OR NOT, IT IS GIVEN
SORT OF A STAMP OF
APPROVAL.
THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW THE KU
KLUX KLAN TO COME IN THERE
AND DO A WHITE SUPREMACIST
DEMONSTRATIONS.
THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW WOMEN TO
BE OPENLY DEMEANED, BUT
THAT'S, IN FACT, WHAT
HAPPENED.
Pat: I WAS IN A DEBATE
WITH A GUY NAMED RUSS MYERS,
AND I THINK HE MAY HAVE BEEN
THE MAN WHO DIRECTED "DEEP
THROAT," BUT HE WAS INTO
PORNOGRAPHY.
AND IT WAS THE BIRTHPLACE OF
PHI BETA KAPPA, TO WHICH I
HAPPEN TO BE A MEMBER.
AND THE WOMEN WERE HOSTILE
TO ME.
I WAS TRYING TO SAY, LOOK,
LADIES, THESE PEOPLE ARE
DOING BAD THINGS TO YOU AND
DEMEANING YOU.
RIGHT.
Pat: AND "DEEP THROAT"
THE GIRL WHO WAS A STAR IN
THAT, HER HUSBAND BEAT HER.
AND SHE GOT PAID A COUPLE
HUNDRED DOLLARS A WEEK TO DO
THAT STUFF.
BUT THESE GIRLS WERE ALL IN
FAVOR OF THE PORN GUY.
IS THIS THE WAY IT WAS AT
YALE?
IN FACT -- UNFORTUNATELY,
THERE IS A LOT OF DEBATE
ABOUT THE ROLE OF
PORNOGRAPHY.
I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHERE
YOU STAND ON THAT ISSUE, IT
IS CLEAR THAT AT A PLACE
LIKE YALE, WHERE MANY OF THE
STUDENTS FEEL DEMEANED BY
THIS MATERIAL, IT SIMPLY HAS
NO PLACE.
THEY DO THIS IN THE NAME OF
ACADEMIC FREEDOM.
BUT THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN ACADEMIC FREEDOM AND
HAVING NO ACADEMIC STANDARDS
WHATSOEVER.
AND THAT'S WHAT I FOUND.
BUT IT GOES BEYOND THE
SEXUAL THINGS.
I WRITE IN THE BOOK ONE CASE
WHERE THE GIRL WAS GIVEN
APPROVAL TO DO THIS ART
PROJECT, WHICH SHE SAID
CONSISTED OF THE BLOOD AND
TISSUE FROM SELF-INDUCED
ABORTIONS, AND IT WAS GIVEN
THE STAMP OF AP PRIEWL.
APPROVAL.
THIS IS PERMEATING THE
UNIVERSITIES.
Pat: YALE HAD
TREMENDOUS SUPERIOR
SPIRITUAL RERIVALS, AND THE
FOUNDATION OF YALE WAS
SPIRITUAL.
THE LEADERS -- YOU LOOK AT
SOME OF THE FOUNDING
DOCUMENTS OF YALE, AND IT
HAD TO DO WITH GLORIFYING
JESUS AND THE BIBLE.
YOU POINT OUT IN YOUR BOOK
THAT THIS EXTREME ER
EROTICISM, OR WHATEVER YOU
CALL IT, WAS TO SHOW PEOPLE
THEY HAD GOTTEN EXTREMELY
AWAY FROM THEIR CHRISTIAN
ROOTS?
IN A SENSE, I DON'T THINK
YALE KNOWS WHAT IT STANDS
FOR ANYMORE, EXCEPT FOR
MAYBE ITS OWN SENSE OF
ELITEISM.
WHETHER YOU WANT TO LOOK AT
THE RADICAL SEXUAL AGENDAS,
THE SORT OF LOSS OF ACADEMIC
STANDARDS IN THE ART
DEPARTMENT, OR ANOTHER
EXAMPLE I TACK ABOUT I TALK
ABOUT IN THE BOOK THEY
ADMITTED A FORMER DIPLOMAT
AT LARGE FOR THE TALIBAN.
I ENDED UP TAKING MY FINAL
EXAMPLE FOR INTERNATIONAL
RELATIONS SEATED NEXT TO A
MAN WHO WAS A SWORN ENEMY OF
THE UNITED STATES, LITERALLY
WHILE OUR SOLDIERS WERE
DYING IN THE MOUNTAINS OF
AFGHANISTAN.
Pat: HE WAS A STUDENT
OR A PROFESSOR?
HE WAS A STUDENT.
THEY ADMITTED HIM TO BE A
STUDENT.
HE MADE A BOAST TO THE "NEW
YORK TIMES," AND HE SAID I
COULD BE AT GUANTANAMO, BUT
INSTEAD I'M AT YALE.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING
LIKE THAT, WHAT YOU FIND IS
A UNIVERSITY THAT HAS BEEN
SO CO-OPTED BY RELATIVE
MORALISM, THAT NO LONGER HAS
A SENSE THERE IS ANY
STANDARD AS TO WHICH WHAT
GOES ON IN ITS CLASSROOMS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS THE
BROWN, DUKE, UNIVERSITY OF
ILLINOIS, UNIVERSITY OF
TENNESSEE, AND PARENTS NEED
TO PREPARE THEIR KIDS FOR
THE MORAL BATTLEGROUND
THEY'RE GOING TO FACE IN
COLLEGE.
Pat: WHY WOULD ANYBODY
SEND THEIR KIDS TO ONE OF
THESE COLLEGES.
WHAT IS TO BE GAINED?
I WAS IN A FORUM UP THERE IN
A DEBATE WITH SOME OF THE
LAW PROFESSORS, AND THEY
DIDN'T KNOW SQUAT ABOUT
AMERICAN HISTORY.
I WAS JUST SHOCKED -- WELL,
I WASN'T SHOCKED, BUT I
NAILED THEM BECAUSE THEY
WERE SAYING THINGS THAT
WEREN'T TRUE.
RIGHT.
THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK IN SOME SENSE WE AS
CHRISTIANS NEED TO STAND UP
AND LET THE TRUTH BE HEARD.
WHETHER IT IS STUDENTS WHO
ARE AT YALE OR SOME OTHER
COLLEGE.
WE NEED TO SUPPOSE THE LIES
THAT ARE BEING TOLD IN THESE
CLASSROOMS, AND THESE SORT
OF ELEMENTS.
OTHERWISE WITHOUT THE TRUTH
BEING TOLD, IT GOES ON IN
SECRET.
Pat: WHAT IS THEIR
ENROLLMENT NOW, ABOUT
18 BILLION?
IT'S HUGE.
I THINK ABOUT 20 BILLION.
Pat: AND THESE PEOPLE
HAVE GIVEN HUGE AMOUNTS OF
MONEY.
WHAT IS IT WITH THE WALL
STREET TYPES THEY AREN'T
AWARE OF WHAT IS BEING
TAUGHT, OR DO THEY CARE?
I THINK SOME OF THEM DO.
IN FACT, I HAVE HEARD
WHISPERS IN BACK CHANNELS
THAT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF
OUTRAGE EXPRESSED FROM
VARIOUS A ALUMNI AFTER THE
BOOK CAME OUT.
AND THEY SAID, THIS ISN'T
WHAT WE WERE SENDING MONEY
TO YALE FOR, SO A PORN STAR
COULD STRIP DOWN.
OR WE WEREN'T PAYING TO
EDUCATE THE TALIBAN.
I BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN
SOME ACCOUNTABILITY, AND I
HOPE THAT CONTINUES AS
PEOPLE READ ABOUT THE BOOK
AND FIND OUT WHAT'S REALLY
GOING ON.
Pat: ARE THEY JUST
GIVING MONEY BECAUSE -- I
GET SOLICITED BY YALE.
SURE.
Pat: HELP US GET 100%
OF OUR CLASS, BLAH, BLAH,
BLAH.
YOU KNOW THE PITCH.
RIGHT.
Pat: BUT THESE PEOPLE
GIVE JUST BECAUSE IT IS PEER
PRESSURE, AND THEIR EYES
AREN'T OPEN.
WHY WOULD ANYBODY SEND A
LITTLE GIRL TO YALE TO THINK
SHE MIGHT GET SUBJECTED TO
PSEUDO MASOCHISM.
THE SEXUAL PERMISSIVENESS IS
PERVASIVE, ISN'T IT?
STUDENTS COME IN AT A
VERY CRITICAL STAGE OF LIFE,
WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO
FIGURE OUT WHO THEY ARE.
AND WHEN THEY'RE TOLD, HEY,
THIS IS WHAT IS NORMAL, THIS
SORT OF VIOLENT SEXUAL
ACTIVITY, OR THIS HYPER
LEVEL OF PROMISCUITY, IF
YOU'RE NOT GETTING WITH THE
PROGRAM, THEN THERE IS
SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU.
I THINK THAT IS THE FALSE
MESSAGE.
IT'S TRYING TO FORCE
EVERYONE INTO A CERTAIN
LIBERAL SEXUAL CULTURE, AND
NOT MAKING A PLACE FOR
SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO
LIVE IN A COUNTERCULTURAL
WAY.
Pat: HAVE YOU FOLLOWED
THROUGH ON THESE AND SEEN
THE SHIP WRECK IN THE LIVES
OF PEOPLE ENGAGED IN THIS
CULTURE?
I HAVE.
I KNOW LOTS OF STUDENTS WHO
COME IN WITH A CERTAIN SET
OF BELIEFS.
FOUR YEARS LATER, THEY GO
OUT WITH A VERY DIFFERENT
SET OF BELIEFS.
AND I HEAR FROM PARENTS ALL
THE TIME, AND THEY SAID, WE
SENT OUT KIDS OFF TO
SCHOOL -- THEY E-MAIL ME --
AND WE LOST THEM.
AND NOW THEIR LIVES ARE A
WRECK.
SO COLLEGE IS A GREAT THING
AND MANY RESPECTS, AND IT
REPRESENTS THE AMERICAN
DREAM.
AND PARENTS FEEL LIKE IT
MEANS THAT THEY'VE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL WHEN THEIR KIDS
GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.
IT IS A GREAT MILE MARKER,
AND THAT'S ALL GREAT, BUT WE
ALSO NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE
TREMENDOUS MORAL PRESSURE
THAT YOUNG PEOPLE FACE, AND
THAT THERE IS REALLY A WAR
BEING WAGED ON THE MIND BY
THE FACULTY AND
ADMINISTRATION AT A LOT OF
OUR UNIVERSITIES, NOT JUST
YALE.
AND IF YOU DON'T PREPARE
YOUR STUDENT -- YOU DON'T
PREPARE YOUR KIDS TO BE
STRONG AND FACE THAT, THEIR
LIFE CAN BE WRECKED BY IT.
Pat: NATHAN, THANK YOU
SO MUCH.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, "SEX,
GOD, AND YALE."
NATHAN HARDEN, AN
INTERESTING COMMENTATOR.
I MADE A LITTLE PITCH FOR
THE SCHOOL THAT I HAVE
CALLED REGENT UNIVERSITY.
THERE ARE 6,000 STUDENTS.
IT, BY THE WAY, TOOK THE
PLACE OF YALE IN THE COURT
COMPETITION.
YALE WAS NUMBER ONE IN THE
COUNTRY, AND NOW IT IS
REGENT.
SO YOU NEVER KNOW.
A LITTLE SCHOOL IN VIRGINIA
CAN CA TAKE ON THE GIANTS.
BUT PEOPLE ARE GETTING
DISGUSTED WITH WHAT THEY'RE
HEARING.
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
YOU'RE CHILD IS STUDYING,
WHAT THEY'RE LEARNING, WHAT
THEY'RE BEING TAUGHT, AND
WHAT INFLUENCES ARE BEING
PUT ON THEM.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING BOOK,
"SEX AND GOD AT YALE."
NATHAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR BEING HERE.
THANK YOU.
Terry: UP NEXT, A MAN'S
FIRST EXPOSURE TO PORN
HAPPENED AT THE AGE OF
EIGHT.
SEEK OF HAVOC IT WREAKED ON
HIS LIFE AND HIS MARRIAGE,
WHEN WE COME BACK.
*
Terry: WHEN CHRIS BEAL
CONFESSED HIS DARKEST
SECRETS TO HIS WIFE, CINDY
HE REVEALED ALL THREE AT
ONCE, THAT HE WAS A PORN
ADDICT, THAT HE HAD AN
AFFAIR, AND THAT HIS
MISTRESS WAS NOW CARRYING
HIS BABY.
IT HAS BEEN 32 YEARS, AND
I CAN STILL TELL YOU EXACTLY
WHAT I LOOKED AT, 32 YEARS
LATER.
Reporter: CHRIS BEAL
WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD WHEN HE
SAW HIS FIRST PORN
MAGAZINE.
IT WAS THE CRAZIEST
THING.
THERE WAS A KID IN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD WHO'S BROTHER
WORKED AT A GAS STATION, AND
BROUGHT OLD ISSUES HOME.
Reporter: AS A
TEENAGER, CHRIS STARTED
BUYING HIS OWN MAGAZINES.
IT WASN'T UNTIL THE
INTERNET CAME OUT IN LATE
COLLEGE THAT IT WAS JUST GAS
ON A FIRE.
BECAUSE NOW YOU DON'T HAVE
TO GO ANYWHERE.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH
THE HUMILIATION OF BUYING
SOMETHING AT A STORE.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT JUST
WENT FROM KIND OF A CONSTANT
STRUGGLE TO AN ALL-OUT
ADDICTION.
Reporter: CHRIS MET
CINDY WHILE BOTH WERE
ATTENDING COLLEGE IN TEXAS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL
IT LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT
BECAUSE WE HAD SEEN EACH
OTHER BEFORE, BUT WE KNEW.
THE FIRST TIME SPENDING TIME
TOGETHER, WE JUST KNEW.
I KNEW HE WAS IT.
Reporter: CHRIS AND
CINDY MARRIED, BUT CHRIS'
ADDICTION GOT WORSE.
IT FINALLY GOT TO THE
POINT WHERE I WAS LOOKING AT
PORNOGRAPHY EVERY DAY.
CINDY DIDN'T FULLY KNOW.
SHE KIND OF KNEW THIS WAS AN
EVER ONCE IN A WHILE
STRUGGLE, BUT SHE DIDN'T
KNOW THE FULL EXTENT.
Reporter: CHRIS WAS THE
MINISTER OF MUSIC AT HIS
CHURCH, AND HE SPENT A LOT
OF TIME ALONE IN HIS
OFFICE.
MOST OF THE TIME HE WOULD
VIEW IT, IT WAS AT WORK.
SO I DIDN'T SEE IT AND KNOW
IT WAS GETTING BAD.
AND THEN IT WENT FROM
LOOKING AT IMAGES TO
CHATTING WITH PEOPLE.
AND THEN THE UNTHINKABLE: I
KNOWINGLY, FULLY KNOWING
WHAT I'M DOING, I MET ONE OF
THEM.
I CAN NEVER SAY I KEPT MY
VOW.
I BROKE MY PROMISE.
AND I WAS JUST IN THIS WORLD
OF DARKNESS.
AND I HATED MYSELF.
AND THEN I GOT UP ON STAGE
TO LEAD WORSHIP ON SUNDAY
MORNING, AND I WAS JUST THE
BIGGEST POSER, THE BIGGEST
HYPOCRITE.
Reporter: CHRIS'
PASTOR, CRAIG, ENCOURAGED
HIM TO BE A MAN OF INTEGRITY
WHO HAS NO SECRETS.
I RESONATE WITH
EVERYTHING HE IS SAYING, YET
I'M NOT THAT GUY.
I'M THE ANTITHESIS OF THAT
GUY.
AND I TRIED.
I TRIED TO MANAGE IT.
I WAS ABLE TO DO DEAL WITH
IT FOR SIX WEEKS.
AND I JUST COULDN'T HANDLE
IT ANYMORE.
IT WAS AS THOUGH THE HOLY
SPIRIT HAD PUT ME IN A
CORNER AND SAID, WE ARE
GOING TO DEAL WITH THIS
ISSUE.
HE CONFESSED EVERYTHING
TO ME.
I'VE BEEN UNFAITHFUL TO YOU
MANY TIMES, MANY DIFFERENT
WOMEN, MANY DIFFERENT PLACES
OVER THE COURSE OF ABOUT
TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEAR
PERIOD.
AND I'M JUST LISTENING.
YOU'RE KIDDING.
THIS HUGE WEIGHT IS NOW
GONE BECAUSE FOR THE FIRST
TIME SINCE I WAS EIGHT YEARS
OLD, I AM A MAN WITH NO
SECRETS.
ON THE OTHER SIDE, I'VE
TAKEN THIS BURDEN -- AND
IT'S NOT LIKE IT JUST
RANDOMLY WENT AWAY, BUT I
PLACED THE BURDEN ON MY
WIFE.
AND IF THAT'S NOT ENOUGH,
THE FINAL PART, HE SAID ONE
OF THE WOMEN IS PREGNANT AND
I'M PRETTY SURE THAT I'M THE
FATHER.
I FOUND IT TO BE THE WORST
DAY OF MY LIFE.
THE NEXT MORNING I REALIZED,
WELL, SO IS THAT ONE, AND
THE NEXT ONE.
SO IT WAS JUST A BUNCH OF
WORST DAYS OF MY LIFE ALL IN
A ROW.
AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT
I CAN DO TO MAKE IT BETTER.
AND SO FOR THE FIRST WEEK WE
JUST SAT SILENT FOR HOURS
AND DAYS AND CRIED AND
TALKED.
AND SHE ASKED QUESTIONS, AND
I ANSWERED QUESTIONS.
Reporter: CHRIS ASKED
FOR CINDY'S FORGIVENESS.
CINDY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
OR WHERE TO GO.
CHRIS TOLD THE STAFF AT HIS
CHURCH WHAT HE HAD DONE, AND
HE LOST HIS JOB, BUT HIS
PASTOR DIDN'T LOSE FAITH IN
CHRIS.
HE WAS GOING TO LEAD OUR
CHURCH THROUGH THE TRUTH.
AND THAT PETRIFIED ME.
PETRIFIED ME.
I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED THE
BODY OF CHRIST LIKE I DID
THAT DAY.
IT WASN'T THE THINGS THAT
THEY SAID.
IT WAS JUST THERE WAS
GENUINE LOVE.
THEY LOVED US.
I HAD SO BETRAYED THEM, AND
THEY LOVED US.
AND THAT WAS THE FIRST
MOMENT THAT I KNEW GOD WAS
UP TO SOMETHING GREAT.
Reporter: BUT CINDY
STILL NEEDED TIME TO THINK
AND PRAYER.
PRAY.
SHE LEFT TO SEE HER MOTHER.
WHEN I GOT THERE, MY
MOTHER SAID I MADE AN
APPOINTMENT FOR YOU TO SEE
OUR PASTOR.
I WAS, LIKE, REALLY?
I'VE GOT TO SEE ANOTHER MAN
WHO WILL TELL ME TO STAY
WITH MY WIFE.
AND HE SAID, WHAT YOU'VE
BEEN THROUGH IS VERY
DIFFICULT.
NOBODY WOULD BLAME YOU IF
YOU LEFT, BUT -- OH, THERE'S
A BUT THERE -- YOU'RE NOT
REQUIRED TO BE A PART OF HIS
REDEMPTIVE LIFE.
I THOUGHT, I TRUST YOU,
LORD, BUT ONCE A CHEATER,
ALWAYS A CHEATER.
I'M GOING TO BE A DOOR MAT
IF I STAY.
AND GOD WAS, LIKE, DO YOU
TRUST ME?
DO YOU TRUST ME?
DO YOU TRUST ME?
FINALLY I SAID, YEAH, YOU'VE
NEVER LEFT ME DOWN.
I DO TRUST YOU.
THAT MOMENT, HIS PEACE JUST
WASHED OVER ME.
AND I'LL JUST NEVER FORGET
HAVING THIS RENEWED SENSE OF
I THINK WE CAN CAN D DO
THIS.
AND BEFORE SHE EVEN SAID,
I'M COMMITTED TO THIS
MARRIAGE, I COULD SEE THAT
GOD HAD PUT THAT IN HER
HEART, AND THAT WAS A GREAT
DAY.
Reporter: CHRIS AND
CINDY STARTED OVER.
CINDY FORGAVE HIM
COMPLETELY, AND THEIR TRUST
IN EACH OTHER STARTED TO
GROW AGAIN.
THEY HAD TWO SONS OF THEIR
OWN.
CHRIS' THIRD SON LIVES WITH
HIS MOTHER.
AFTER A COUPLE OF YEARS,
CINDY WOULD JUST CRY BECAUSE
SHE LOVED HIM LIKE HER OWN
SON.
AND TODAY HE IS NOT A
REMINDER OF MY SIN.
HE IS A REMINDER OF THE
REDEMPTION OF GOD.
HE IS ONE OF THE GREATEST
JOYS IN THIS WHOLE TERRIBLE
STORY.
I MEAN, HE IS THE SCRIPTURE
THAT SAYS GOD WILL CAUSE ALL
THINGS TO WORK TOGETHER FOR
GOOD PERSONIFIED, IT'S THAT
LITTLE BOY.
Reporter: CHRIS AND
CINDY WILL TELL YOU THAT
THEIR MARRIAGE ISN'T
PERFECT.
IT IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
I BELIEVE THAT GOD IS IN
THE BUSINESS OF PERFORMING
MIRACLES TODAY.
HE IS STILL IN THE BUSINESS
OF DOING THOSE MIRACLES.
AND MY MARRIAGE IS JUST
THAT, A MIRACLE.
THERE IS NO HOPE FOR
FREEDOM, THERE IS NO HOPE
FOR RESTORATION UNTIL YOU
CAN JUST WADE IN THE WATERS
OF TRUTH, WHICH IS YOU'RE
ENOUGH, AND HE LOVES YOU
MORE THAN ANYTHING.
AND THEN IN THE MIDST OF
THAT LOVE, HAVE THE COURAGE
AND THE TRUST TO TRUST IN A
GOOD GOD, TO DO WHATEVER IT
TAKES TO BE FREE.
TO CONFESS IT, TO BRING IT
INTO THE LIGHT, AND THEN
SPEND THE REST OF YOUR
LIFE -- THE REST OF YOUR
LIFE -- JUST LOVING AND
EARNING THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE ONE OF THE GREAT STORIES
OF GOD.
Terry: YOU KNOW, SHAME,
OR ON THE OTHER SIDE,
UNFORGIVENESS, ARE TERRIBLE
BARRIERS THAT KEEP US FROM
KNOWING THE FULLNESS OF LIFE
THAT JESUS SAYS HE CAME TO
GIVE US.
IS SO EASY TO GET CAUGHT UP
IN THINGS THAT PULL US AWAY
FROM GOD, THAT MAKE US LESS
THAN WE WERE CREATED TO BE,
THAT CAN EVEN RUIN
RELATIONSHIPS AND RUIN OUR
OWN LIVES.
ADDICTIONS, ESPECIALLY.
THEY HAVE A POWER OVER US
THAT WE ALLOW TO HAPPEN,
BUT, STILL, ONCE WE'RE
CAUGHT IN THAT, IT'S VERY
DIFFICULT TO GET OUT OF IT.
WE'VE SAID BEFORE ON THIS
SHOW THAT SIN WILL DO MORE
TO YOUR LIFE THAN YOU EVER
THOUGHT IT WOULD DO.
IT WILL KEEP YOU LONGER THAN
YOU EVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD
STAY.
IT WILL COST YOU MORE THAN
YOU EVER THOUGHT IT WOULD
COST YOU.
BUT JESUS -- JESUS IS CALLED
THE REDEEMERS BECAUSE HE
CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVES
FREE.
CAN I SAY THAT IS ALL OF
US?
MAYBE PORNOGRAPHY IS NOT
YOUR ADDICTION.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A
THOUSAND THINGS THAT CAN
GRAB OUR HEARTS, EVEN THE
SIN OF DISCONTENT, NEVER
HAVING GOD BE ENOUGH.
ALWAYS NEEDING AND WANTING
MORE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE BOUND BY
MANY, MANY THINGS, AND YET
THE INVITATION IS THERE FOR
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, COME
UNTO ME IF YOU'RE WEARY AND
HEAVY LADEN.
MY BURDEN IS LIGHT.
JESUS SAID HE WANTED YOU TO
HAVE LIFE AND HAVE IT
ABUNDANTLY.
ARE YOU LIVING THAT?
IF YOU'RE NOT, YOU HAVE TO
EXAMINE WHY NOT?
WHAT HAVE I REPLACED YOU
WITH IN MY LIFE?
I LOOK AT CINDY, AND I MARV
EL AT THE SPIRIT OF GOD TO
COME INTO THAT KIND OF
WOUNDING AND UNFAIR
TREATMENT, AND SAY, I INVITE
YOU TO BE PART OF AN ETERNAL
WORK HERE.
WILL YOU COME WITH ME ON
THIS?
ON BOTH SIDES, FOR CHRIS AND
CINDY, IT MEANT SETTING
ASIDE THEIR AGENDAS, WHAT
THEY WANTED, WHAT THEY WERE
HOLDING ON TO, AND WHAT THEY
COULD HAVE HELD ONTO IN
CINDY'S SITUATION, AND AS
THAT PASTOR SAID TO HER, NO
ONE WOULD HAVE FAULTED HER
FOR IT.
BUT GOD SAYS TO EVERY ONE OF
US, I HAVE A PLAN THAT IS
BIGGER THAN YOU.
A PLAN THAT IS BIGGER THAN
WHAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.
IT IS BIGGER THAN WHAT YOU
CAN SEE.
THE QUESTION IS: WILL YOU
COME WITH ME?
YOU SEE, WE CAN'T BE IN
CHARGE AND ASK GOD TO COME
WITH US.
HE IS SAYING, I'M GOD; I'VE
GOT THE PLAN.
BUT MY ARMS ARE OPEN, AND MY
PLANS FOR YOU ARE FOR A HOPE
AND A FUTURE.
THEY'RE FILLED WITH
SWEETNESS AND GOODNESS AND
LOVE.
COME TO JESUS TODAY FOR A
NEW BEGINNING.
LET HIM REDEEM WHAT HAS BEEN
LOST IN YOUR LIFE.
GOD IS NO RESPECTER OF
PERSONS.
IT CAN HAPPEN FOR YOU, TOO.
YOU KNOW THE VERY DREAD THAT
CHRIS FACED, WHEN HE FACED
THAT CONGREGATION, WAS THE
VERY SHAME THAT WAS HOLDING
HIM.
COME FREE.
DON'T LET THAT JUNK KEEP YOU
FROM BEING ALL THAT GOD
CREATED YOU TO BE.
JUST ASK HIM.
CONFESS YOUR SIN.
JESUS, I HAVE BLOWN IT.
I AM A TERRIBLE SINNER, AND
CONFESS THE THINGS YOU NEED
FORGIVENESS FOR.
ASK HIM TO COME INTO YOUR
LIFE.
TELL HIM YOU WANT TO LIVE
FOR HIM.
LEARN TO BE LIKE HIM.
THINK LIKE HIM.
SEE THINGS THE WAY HE SEES
THINGS.
THAT YOU WANT THE POWER OF
HIS SPIRIT ALIVE IN YOU, AND
THANK HIM FOR THE GIFT OF
ETERNAL LIFE.
IT IS A RELATIONSHIP.
IT'S NOT A RELIGION.
IT IS A RELATIONSHIP.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO
PRAY SPECIFICALLY WITH YOU
TODAY ABOUT THE NEED IN YOUR
LIFE, YOU CAN CALL THAT
TOLL-FREE NUMBER,
1-800-759-0700.
JUST SAY, I'D LIKE TO PRAY.
WILL YOU PRAY WITH ME.
THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO
ANSWER THAT PHONE IS
SOMEBODY WHO HAS ALREADY
PRAYED THE SAME PRAYER
YOU'RE CONSIDERING PRAYING
RIGHT NOW.
DON'T WAIT A DAY LONGER.
GOD HAS WAITED ALL THIS TIME
FOR YOU.
WE WANT TO GIVE YOU, ALSO,
WHEN YOU PRAY THAT PRAYER, A
PACKET CALLED "A NEW DAY."
HOW DO YOU GROW IN YOUR
RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?
IF YOU'RE STRUGGLING FOR
WITH FORGIVENESS, WE'VE GOT
A GREAT BROCHURE FOR YOU,
TOO.
DO CALL SOMEONE RIGHT NOW.
PAT?
Pat: STILL AHEAD, WE'VE
GOT YOUR E-MAIL.
MICHELLE SAYS, "WHEN YOU'RE
SPOUSE TELLS YOU THAT HE
ISN'T IN LOVE WITH YOU
ANYMORE, IS THERE ANY HOPE
TO CHANGE HIS MIND AND FIND
LOVE AGAIN?"
WELL, WE'LL GIVE A SHOUT AT
MICHELLE'S QUESTION AND MORE
WHEN WE "BRING IT ON" AFTER
THIS BREAK.
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TO WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN
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PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NAMED
MELISSA ROGERS AS THE NEW
DIRECTOR OF THE WHITE HOUSE
OFFICE OF FAITH-BASED AND
NEIGHBORHOOD PARTNERSHIPS.
SHE SERVED AS AN ATTORNEY
FOR THE BAPTIST JOINT
COMMITTEE FOR RELIGIOUS
LIBERTY.
IN HER NEW ROLE, SHE'LL
FOCUS ON POLICY GOALS THAT
INCLUDE REDUCING IN INTENDED
PREGNANCIES, PROMOTING
POSSIBLE FATHERHOOD AND
IMPROVING INTERFACE
DIALOGUE.
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU HAS
FINALLY HAMMERED TOGETHER A
COALITION GOVERNMENT, SIX
WEEKS AFTER WINNING
RE-ELECTION.
HIS TWO MAIN COALITION
PARTNERS ARE POLITICAL
NEWCOMERS.
HE FORMED THE GOVERNMENT
JUST IN TIME FOR PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S VISIT.
HE IS HOPING THE PRESIDENT
WILL GET A BETTER
UNDERSTANDING OF THE
CHALLENGES THEIR COUNTRY
FACES.
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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Terry: WE WANT TO TAKE
SOME TIME TO ANSWER SOME OF
THE E-MAIL QUESTIONS YOU
SENT IN.
PAT, THIS FIRST ONE IS FROM
MICHELLE, WHO SAYS, "WHEN
YOUR SPOUSE TELLS YOU HE
ISN'T IN LOVE WITH YOU
ANYMORE, IS THERE ANY HOPE
TO CHANGE HIS MIND AND FIND
LOVE AGAIN.
WE'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 25
YEARS.
I STILL LOVE HIM SO VERY
MUCH."
Pat: THIS WHOLE CONCEPT
OF RO ROMANTIC LOVE DOESN'T
APPEAR THAT MUCH IN THE
BIBLE.
MARRIAGE IS DIFFERENT THAN
WHAT WE HEAR IN HOLLYWOOD.
WE GO THROUGH CHANGES.
MEN GO THROUGH CHANGES.
YOU'VE BEEN MARRIED FOR 25
YEARS.
LET'S ASSUME YOU GOT MARRIED
WHEN YOU WERE 25.
NOW YOUR HUSBAND IS 50,
RIGHT?
SO HE'S GOING THROUGH ALL
KINDS OF HORMONAL CHANGES.
MEN HAVE A MALE MENOPAUSE,
JUST LIKE WOMEN, EXCEPT THEY
DON'T GET HOTFLASHES.
SO ALL OF A SUDDEN HIS WHOLE
LIFE IS TURNED UP SIDE
DOWN.
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHO HE IS,
WHERE HE IS GOING.
HE THINKS HE HAS HIT A
WALL.
HE HAS CLIMBED EVERY
MOUNTAIN HE CAN CLIMB, AND
HE DOESN'T SEE ANYTHING IN
THE FUTURE.
AND HE IS REFLECTING SOME OF
THAT ON YOU.
ALL I CAN SAY IS HANG IN
THERE.
IT MAY BE THAT HE IS GOING
TO GO LOOK FOR SOME
20-YEAR-OLD CHORUS GIRL AND
SAY SHE IS THE ANSWER TO MY
PROBLEM.
BUT SHE'S NOT.
AND NONE OF THEM ARE.
SO IF YOU WILL CONTINUE TO
TELL HIM YOU LOVE HIM, AND
CONTINUE TO SHOW LOVE AND
OPENNESS AND FRIENDSHIP AND
UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S GOING
THROUGH, MAYBE, MAYBE,
MAYBE -- YOU SAY CAN GOD
BRING US BACK TOGETHER?
I THINK AFTER 25 YEARS, YOU
SHARED SOME PRETTY
SIGNIFICANT THINGS.
YOU DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
CHILDREN, BUT IF YOU'VE
RAISED CHILDREN TOGETHER,
YOU'VE HAD SORROW TOGETHER,
YOU'VE HAD DISEASE AND
SICKNESS TOGETHER, YOU'VE
HAD TRIPS TOGETHER, YOU'VE
HAD FINANCIAL CRISES
TOGETHER -- YOU'VE BUILT UP
A WEB OF RELATIONSHIPS THAT
YOU JUST DON'T WANT TO BLOW
UP, AND I DON'T THINK HE
DOES, EITHER.
SO ASK GOD TO SPEAK TO HIM.
IN THE MEANTIME, LET HIM
KNOW THAT YOU UNDERSTAND,
THAT YOU'RE WITH HIM, AND
SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
YOU SAID IS THERE ANY WAY?
BUT THIS ROMANTIC LOVE
STUFF, I'M NOT IN LOVE WITH
YOU ANYMORE, THAT DOESN'T
CUT IT IN THE BIBLE.
Terry: ANN SAYS, "DO
YOU THINK SOCIETY WOULD HAVE
A STRONGER MARRIAGE RATE IF
WE LEARNED AT CHILDREN HOW
TO BE GOOD HUSBANDS AND
WIVES?"
Pat:
I GREW UP IN A
FAMILY WHERE DIVORCE WAS
UNDREAMED OF.
MY WIFE GREW UP IN A FAMILY
WHERE DIVORCE WAS UNDREAMED
OF.
MY CHILDREN HAVE GROWN UP IN
A FAMILY WHERE DIVORCE WAS
UNDREAMED OF.
AS A RESULT, THEY SEE YOU.
BOYS WILL MODEL AFTER THEIR
FATHERS.
GIRLS WILL MODEL AFTER THEIR
MOTHERS.
THE RELATIONSHIP, WHAT A
FATHER DOES WITH A MOTHER,
WILL BE THE TEMPLATE OF HOW
A YOUNG MAN WANTS TO TREAT
HIS SPOUSE BECAUSE HE HAS
SEEN IT.
SOME ARE SO GROSS, AND THEY
SAY I DON'T WANT TO EVER DO
WHAT MY FATHER DID AND THEY
GO ACTING IN THE OTHER
DIRECTION.
BUT IF THERE IS LOVE AND
HARMONY, THEY SAY HOW DID
DADDY DO IT, HOW DID MOTHER
DO IT?
TEACH ME.
IT IS PART OF THE CULTURE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU ASKED.
I THINK IF WE MODEL
SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGES, OUR
CHILDREN WILL COPY US, DON'T
YOU THINK?
Terry: SURE.
THIS IS FROM A VIEWER WHO
SAYS, "MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE
BEEN MARRIED FOR 13 YEARS,
BUT HE DIVORCED ME TWO YEARS
AGO.
OUR MARRIAGE DID NOT END
BECAUSE OF ADULTERY, SO
WOULD IT BE A SIN IF I
PRAYED FOR ANOTHER
HUSBAND?"
Pat: THE APOSTLE PAUL
SAID, LOOK, IF YOU'VE GOT AN
UNBELIEVING SPOUSE AND
THEY'RE PLEASED TO STAY WITH
YOU, HANG AROUND.
BUT IN THE UNBELIEVER WANTS
TO LEAVE, THEN LET THEM
DEPART.
THE BROTHER OR SISTER IS NOT
BOUND IN THAT CASE.
SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOUR
HUSBAND, BUT IF, INDEED, HE
IS AN UNBELIEVER, AND HE HAS
LEFT YOU, REGARDLESS OF THE
CAUSE, HE HAS LEFT YOU, THEN
ACCORDING TO WHAT'S CALLED
THE PAULINE PRIVILEGE, YOU
ARE NOT BOUND TO THAT
RELATIONSHIP.
SO YOU SAY IS IT RIGHT TO
START PRAYING FOR ANOTHER?
YOU LOVE BEING MARRIED.
YOU WANT A LIFE PARTNER.
AND IF YOU ASK GOD FOR
ANOTHER, THAT'S CHRISTIAN.
AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG
WITH THAT.
Terry: THANK YOU FOR
YOUR QUESTIONS, EVERYBODY.
WE LOVE HEARING FROM YOU.
WE WANT TO MOVE TO ANOTHER
AREA RIGHT NOW.
THE WORKING MOM IN OUR NEXT
STORY HAD A HIGH-RISK JOB
BUT WITH VERY LOW PAY.
BUT NOW THE SHE HAS A VERY
SAFE WORKPLACE.
AND NOW SHE IS MAKING IN ONE
WEEK WHAT IT USED TO TAKE A
WHOLE MONTH TO MAKE, THANKS
TO "OPERATION BLESSING."
Reporter: FOR THE PAST
TWO YEARS, 30 YEARS YOLINDA
IS WORKING.
SHE MAKES JEWELRY.
ON A GOOD DAY, SHE MAKE
ABOUT $7.
BUT EARNING ENOUGH MONEY IS
NOT HER ONLY CONCERN.
I WAS AFRAID BECAUSE IT
WAS NOT SAFE FOR ME TO SELL
MY JEWELRY ON THE SIDEWALK
WITH NO ONE ELSE AROUND.
I HAVE BEEN ROBBED TWO
DIFFERENT TIMES.
I WAS SO SCARED WHEN THAT
MAN STOLE MY MAMA'S THINGS.
YOLINDA IS A SINGLE MOTHER.
SHE HAS BEEN TRYING TO FIND
A MORE STABLE ENVIRONMENT
FOR THE GIRLS TO GROW UP IN,
BUT MOST OF THE TIME, SHE
HAS TO BRING THE YOUNGEST
ALONG WITH HER SINCE HER
OLDER DAUGHTERS ARE IN
SCHOOL.
I WOULD WALK AROUND ALL
OF THE MARKETS, TRYING TO
FIND A GOOD PLACE TO SELL,
WHEN MY DAUGHTER WAS TIRED
AND HUNGRY.
Reporter: SO "OPERATION
BLESSING" TURNED HER DREAM
INTO A REALITY.
WE PROVIDED HER WITH MONEY
TO EXPAND HER BUSINESS, AND
ARRANGED FOR HER TO HAVE A
STALL IN THE MARKETPLACE FOR
SIX MONTHS, RENT-FREE.
THANKS TO "OPERATION
BLESSING," MY INCOME HAS
REALLY GROWN.
I CAN NOW EARN IN ONE WEEK
WHAT IT TOOK ME A WHOLE
MONTH TO EARN BEFORE.
Reporter: YOLINDA NOW
HAS A SAFE PLACE TO WORK AND
CAN PROVIDE A BETTER LIFE
FOR HER CHILDREN, AND THAT'S
GIVING THEM ALL A LOT OF
HOPE.
NOW I CAN SHARE MORE TIME
WITH MY DAUGHTERS.
WE CAN GO TO THE CITY PARK
AND I CAN BUY THE THINGS
THEY NEED.
THANK YOU, "OPERATION
BLESSING," FOR HELPING MY
MOMMY.
Terry: A SINGLE MOM, A
HARD WORKER, TRYING TO MAKE
A WAY FOR HER AND HER
CHILDREN.
YOU STEPPED INTO THE MIDDLE
OF HER NEED AND YOU PROVIDED
EVERYTHING SHE NEEDED TO
HAVE DIGNITY, HOPE, AND A
FUTURE.
"700 CLUB" MEMBERS, YOU'RE
DOING THAT ALL AROUND THE
WORLD EVERY DAY.
FOR THOSE YOU WHO HAVE NOT
GONE TO THE PHONE AND CALLED
YET, THIS IS THE TIME.
1-800-759-0700.
JUST SAY, I WANT TO JOIN
"THE 700 CLUB," 65 CENTS A
DAY, $20 A MONTH, MAKES YOU
A "THE 700 CLUB" MEMBER.
IF YOU DO IT USING PLEDGE
EXPRESS, THAT MEANS YOUR
BANK DOES ALL OF THE WORK.
IT SAVES YOU LOTS OF HASSLE,
BUT IT ALSO SAVES US SOME
COSTS THAT WE CAN PUT
DIRECTLY INTO THE LIVES INTO
PEOPLE LIKE YOLINDA.
AND OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK
YOU IS TO SEND YOU "POWER
FOR LIFE TEACHINGS."
WE THINK THEY'LL TOUCH YOUR
LIFE AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
CALL NOW.
YOU CAN BE A WORLD CHANGER
AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
Pat: AND TOMORROW THE
OAK RIDGE BOYS ARE HERE WITH
US.
THEY'RE CELEBRATING SOME
KIND OF AN ANNIVERSARY.
Terry: RUBY, I THINK,
RUBY ANNIVERSARY.
Pat: OKAY.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM LUKE: "FORGIVE
AND YOU WILL BE FORGIVEN."
THAT WORKS WITH MARRIAGES
AND IT WORKS IN ALL OUR
LIVES.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US.
AND WE'LL BE TALKING TO YOU
TOMORROW.
BYE-BYE.
