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The 700 Club - March 21, 2013

Raised on his mother Paula Deen's exquisite foods, Bobby Deen shares his healthy take on Southern cuisine. Plus, founder of New India Church of God, Ranjit Abraham discusses how Christianity is spreading in his nation. Read Transcript


Lee: THE GUSTAN WANS

GOVERNMENT WANTS TO CREATE

JOBS, RIGHT?

SO WHY IS IT TRYING TO SHUT

THIS PLACE DOWN?

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE

BEEN HERE FOR 25, 30 YEARS,

ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START

OVER.

Lee: YOU WON'T BELIEVE

HOW FAR THE FEDS WILL GO.

IN SOME CASES, THEY WERE

SIMPLY MAKING THINGS UP.

Lee: PLUS...LIKE

MOTHER, LIKE SON.

PAULA DEAN'S YOUNGEST SON,

BOBBY, COMES TO OUR KITCHEN

WITH A COUPLE OF TWEAKS TO

HIS MAMA'S RECIPE, ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

Pat: WELCOME, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

A FEW YEARS AGO, I WROTE A

SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL CALLED

THE END OF THE AGES, BASED

ON BIBLICAL TRUTH, BUT IT

WAS NEVERTHELESS THERE.

AND ONE OF THE SCENARIOS, IF

I CAN USE THAT TERM, I HAD

THE PRESIDENT COMMITTING

SUICIDE ON TELEVISION

BECAUSE HE CUT THE FUNDING

FOR ASTEROID RESEARCH.

GUESS WHAT?

THEY'RE DOING IT IN

WASHINGTON, AND NASA SAID

YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY OUR

MONEY.

AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP

ASTEROIDS FROM HITTING YOU,

WE RECOMMEND YOU PRAY.

HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT?

IT SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE

FICTION OR A HOLLYWOOD

MOVIE, BUT IT IS ALL TOO

REAL.

THE THREAT OF A MASSIVE

ASTEROID SLAMMING INTO THE

EARTH.

TERRY?

Terry: IF ONE OF THESE

SPACE ROCKS DID HIT, IT

WOULD CAUSE ENORMOUS DAMAGE,

AND COULD KILL MILLIONS.

NASA SCIENTISTS ARE TELLING

CONGRESS THEY NEED MORE

MONEY TO FIND THESE DEADLY

THREATS FROM SPACE BEFORE

THEY STRIKE, AND EPHRAIM

GRAHAM HAS THE STORY.

Reporter: SCIENTISTS

SHARED A GRIM REALITY WITH

LAWMAKERS IN THIS WEEK'S

ASTEROID HEARINGS ON CAPITOL

HILL.

THERE IS ALMOST NO WAY TO

STOP ASTEROIDS AND DEBRIS

FROM HURTLING TOWARDS

EARTH.

THE CHIEF WAS ASKED WHAT HIS

AGENCY COULD DO IF A LARGE

ASTEROID WAS HEADED FOR

EARTH WEEKS BEFORE IMPACT.

THE ANSWER TO HIM WAS: "IF

IT IS COMING IN THREE WEEKS,

PRAY."

SCIENTISTS SAY THE ONLY WAY

TO PROTECT EARTH IS TO HAVE

DECADES OF ADVANCED WARNING

OF AN OBJECT HEADING OUR

WAY.

20, 30, 40 YEARS OF

NOTICE, IT IS ACTUALLY EASY

TO DETECT AN ASTEROID.

Reporter: SCIENTISTS

SAID WITHOUT A PROGRAM TO

DETECT THEM, WE COULD NEVER

DETECT THEM IN TIME TO

PREVENT MASS CASUALTIES.

IF IT HAPPENED IN NEW

YORK CITY, WE WOULD HAVE

SEVEN MILLION CASUALTIES.

Reporter: IN 2005,

CONGRESS TOLD NASA TO FIND

90% OF THESE SPACE OBJECTS.

NAS IS SAYS BECAUSE OF

BUDGET CUTS, THEY WON'T BE

ABLE TO GET THAT DONE UNTIL

2070.

IT IS MEAFTED THERE

ESTIMATED THERE MAY BE

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS THAT

REMAIN UNKNOWN.

SCIENTISTS SAY THAT WHILE

THE ODDS OF AN ASTEROID

STRIKE CAUSING MASS

CASUALTIES AND DESTRUCTION

ARE VERY SMALL, THE

CONSEQUENCES ARE LARGE, SO

LARGE THAT THE RISK MUST BE

TAKEN SERIOUSLY.

I JUST, AGAIN, WANT TO

POINT OUT THERE IS IS A 30%

CHANCE THAT THERE IS A FIVE

MEGA TON OR SO IMPACT THAT

IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT A

RANDOM LOCATION ON THIS

PLANET THIS CENTURY.

SO THIS IS NOT

HYPOTHETICAL.

Reporter: EPHRAIM

GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WHEN YOU READ THE

NEW TESTAMENT, AND YOU SEE

THE PROPHECIES THAT JESUS

CHRIST OUTLIP OUTLINE,

THERE IS NOTHING ELSE THAT

WILL FULFILL IT BESIDES AN

ASTEROID.

THE SUN WON'T GIVE ITS

LIGHT, THE MOON WON'T SHINE,

AND MEN'S HEARTS WILL FEAR.

THERE IS NOTHING WILL DO IT,

AND IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH.

THE ONE I HAD IN THE BOOK

WAS 6/10ths OF A MILE.

Terry: AND YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT MUCH LARGER.

Pat: OH, YES.

THOSE THINGS, THEY CALL THEM

EXTINCTERS BECAUSE IT WIPES

OUT ALL LIFE IN THE AREA.

MINE HAD A LIMITED RANGE.

I HAD A BRIEF MOMENT WITH

STEVEN SPIELBERG, WHO WAS

ALSO DOING ONE.

AND I SAID WOULD YOU LIKE TO

DO A LITTLE RESEARCH.

HERE IS WHAT IS GOING TO

HAPPEN.

I GAVE HIM A COPY OF MY

BOOK, AND HE HAD ANOTHER ONE

CALLED ARMAGEDDON.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE?

THEY HAD A MOVIE.

Terry: I DO.

Pat: HE READ MY BOOK.

AND HE HAD HIS SPLASHDOWN

OFF OF VIRGINIA BEACH, AND I

HAD MY SPLASHDOWN OFF OF

CALIFORNIA COAST.

I THOUGHT, WE SHOULD HAVE IT

IN CALIFORNIA.

AND HE HAD HIS IN VIRGINIA

BEACH.

Terry: THERE IS

SELF-PROTECTION IN

EVERYBODY'S.

Pat: PEOPLE WERE

FLEEING UP TO THE

MOUNTAINS.

AND WE LAUGH THE IT, BUT,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS

REAL.

THEY THINK THAT'S WHAT WIPED

OUT THE DINOSAURS.

IT WAS A HIT PROBABLY SOME

PLACE AROUND THE YUCATAN

PENINSULA.

THERE IS A GREAT BIG HOLE IN

THE OCEAN DOWN THERE WHERE

ONE OF THEM PROBABLY HIT.

IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH, BUT A

FAIRLY GOOD SIZE.

THE ONE THAT FLEW OVER

SIBERIA AND EXPLODED WOULD

HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TO WIPE OUT

LONDON.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GASLY.

BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE SO

HUGE AND SO HOT, AND THEY

EXPLODE SO LOUDLY, AND IT IS

THE FORCE OF MANY, MANY,

MANY HYDROGEN NUCLEAR

BOMBS.

WE DON'T WANT TO SCARE

ANYBODY, BUT READ THE

BIBLE.

READ WAS JESUS HAD TO SAY

ABOUT THE LAST DAYS, AND

THAT WILL FULFILL IT.

AND ALSO IF IT IS AVAILABLE,

BUT YOU OUGHT TO READ IT.

Terry: I THINK THEY CAN

FIND IT.

Pat: I WOULD LIKE TO

BRING IT BACK AGAIN BECAUSE

IT IS VERY TIMELY.

WHILE NASA IS CONCERNED

ABOUT ASTEROIDS, ISRAELIS

HAVE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT

PALESTINIAN ROCKET ATTACKS.

LEE WEBB HAS MORE ON THAT

FROM THE CBN NEWS ROOM.

HERE IS LEE.

Lee: PALESTINIAN

TERRORISTS LAUNCHED ROCKET

ATTACKS INTO

SOUTHERN ISRAEL

TODAY BEFORE PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S MEETING WITH

PALESTINIAN LEADERS.

THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO TALK

ABOUT A PEACE DEAL, AND HE

SPENT MUCH OF THE DAY WITH

ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.

CHRIS MITCHELL HAS THE STORY

FROM JERUSALEM.

Reporter: DAY TWO OF

PRESIDENT OBAMA'S VISIT.

HE STARTED AS THE ISRAEL

MUSEUM, LOOKING AT THE

ANCIENT DEAD SEA SCROLLS.

AS FAR AS ISRAEL IS

CONCERNED, THINGS SEEM TO BE

GOING WELL.

ONE COMMENTATOR REMARKED, IF

THIS IS THE WAY WE GREET

OBAMA, WHAT IS LEFT FOR THE

MESSIAH.

ANY PREVIOUS ANIMOSITY

BETWEEN OBAMA AND NETANYAHU

APPEAR TO BE GONE.

I THINK THE ISRAELI

PEOPLE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT

PRESIDENT OBAMA IS GETTING

OFF TO A NEW SECOND START

WITH PRIME MINISTER

NETANYAHU, AND I THINK THAT

IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I THINK IT IS A MORE

REALISTIC APPRAISAL OF THE

MIDDLE EAST.

Reporter: BEHIND THE

PHOTO OPS, GOODWILL, AND THE

MASSIVE SECURITY, ARE THE

MAJOR ISSUES FACING THESE

TWO NATIONS, THE CIVIL WAR

IN SYRIA, NO NEGOTIATIONS

BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE

PALESTINIAN, AND THE MOST

SERIOUS ISSUE OF ALL, THE

THREAT OF A NUCLEAR IRAN.

NETANYAHU AND OBAMA MET FOR

FIVE HOURS ON WEDNESDAY.

President Obama: ALL

OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.

WE WILL DO WHAT IS NES

NECESSARY TO PREVENT IRAN

FROM GETTING THE WORLD'S

WORST WEAPONS.

ISRAEL REMAINS FULLY

COMMITTED TO PEACE AND TO

THE SOLUTION OF TWO STATES

FOR TWO PEOPLES.

WE EXTEND OUR HAND IN PEACE

AND FRIENDSHIP TO THE

PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.

Reporter: PRESIDENT

OBAMA HAS BEEN SAYING ALL OF

THE THE RIGHT THINGS.

I HOPE IT IS MORE THAN

JUST TRYING TO CURRIE FAVOR

WITH THE ISRAELI

POPULATION.

I HOPE IT IS A REALIZATION

THAT ISRAEL HAS LEGITIMATE

NEEDS BE, AND THE UNITED

STATES HAS TO BE MORE

COGNIZANT OF THEM WHEN

MAKING THEIR OWN SECURITY

INTERESTS.

Reporter: BUT ISRAEL

SAYS THE GROWING U.S.-ISRAEL

TIES AS A BAD SIGN FOR

THEM.

EARLY THURSDAY, PALESTINIANS

LAUNCHED ROCKETS AT THE GAZA

STRIP JUST BEFORE THE

PRESIDENT'S TRIP TO

RAMALLAH.

THEY SAY OBAMA'S VISIT SENDS

A MESSAGE TO THE REGIMES IN

THE MIDDLE EAST.

ISRAEL IS THE ONLY ANCHOR

WESTERN WORLD HAS.

JORDAN IS DESTABILIZING,

TURKEY IS A MESS.

HE REALIZES THERE IS ONLY

ONE PLACE HE CAN RELY ON FOR

GOOD NEWS AND FORWARD

PROGRESS.

THAT'S ISRAEL.

THAT'S A PRAGMATIC DECISION

BY AN IDEOLOGICAL MAN, AND I

THINK THAT'S A GOOD MOVE.

Reporter: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

Lee: PAT, YOUR REACTION

SO FAR TO THE PRESIDENT'S

VISIT?

Pat: WELL, I THINK IT

IS OPTICS, LEE.

I THINK THE PRESIDENT KNOWS

HIS CONSTITUENCY IN THE

DEMOCRATIC PARTY COMPRISES

VERY WELL-KNOWN JEWISH

PEOPLE, JEWISH PRODUCERS AND

SO FAR, AND THIS STATEMENT

ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE '67

BORDERS AND THAT SORT OF

THING HAVE SET THEM ON

EDGE.

I THINK HE UNDERSTANDS IF HE

IS GOING TO HAVE ANY

SUCCESS, HE HAS GOT TO GET

PEOPLE, LIKE CHUCK SHUME

SCHUMER, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE

SENATE, ON HIS TEAM.

THIS IS A BIG PIECE OF

OFFENSE MORE FOR HIS OWN

DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

BUT I HOPE SOMETHING GOOD

COMES OUT OF IT.

IT IS AMAZING.

HE AND NETANYAHU WERE AT

EACH OTHER'S THROATS, AND

NOW THEY'RE HAVING A KISSY

FIT OVER JERUSALEM.

IT IS AMAZING HOW MUCH LOVE

AND HEART FLUTTERING IS

GOING ON.

IT WILL REMAIN TO BE SEEN

WHAT HE ACTUALLY DOES.

ELLIOT ABRAMS WAS A

BRILLIANT ANALYST, AND HE

WORKED FOR REAGAN AND BUSH,

IN HIGH POLICY IN THE STATE

DEPARTMENT.

HE SAID, LOOK, PEACE BETWEEN

THE ISRAELIS AND THE

PALESTINIANS IS NOT THE

NUMBER ONE ISSUE AMONG THE

ARAB NATIONS.

THEY'VE GOT OTHER ITEMS THAT

THEY HAVE TO BE CONCERNED

ABOUT.

I THINK RIGHT NOW THE MOST

IMPORTANT THING IS THE CLASH

BETWEEN SUNNIS AND SHIAS,

AND THE SECOND THAT A SHIIA

BUREAUCRACY IS ABOUT TO GET

A NUCLEAR WEAPON.

I THINK THAT IS THE BIG

DEAL, MORE THAN WHETHER OR

NOT THE PALESTINIANS AND THE

ISRAELIS MAKE PEACE.

Lee: OFFICIALS IN

CYPRUS ARE WORKING ON A NEW

BAILOUT STRATEGY.

THAT PLAN COULD INCLUDE A

LOAN FROM RUSSIA IN EXCHANGE

FOR NATURAL GAS LEASES.

RUSSIANS HAVE A MASSIVE

AMOUNT OF MONEY IN CYPRUS.

A VOTE ON THE PLAN COULD

COME AS EARLY AS TODAY.

BUT CYPRUS IS ON BORROWED

TIME.

THE EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK IS

KEEPING CYPRIOT BANKS ALIVE

BY LETTING THEM USE

EMERGENCY FUNDS.

BUT THE E.C. B. SAYS CYPRUS

HAS TO COME UP WITH A

BAILOUT PLAN SOON OR IT WILL

CUT OFF THOSE FUNDS.

THE BANKS WILL BE CLOSED FOR

THE REST OF THIS WEEK WHILE

OFFICIALS WORK ON A PLAN FOR

THAT LOAN.

FOUR DEMOCRATIC SENATORS ARE

ASKING PRESIDENT OBAMA TO

HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL

PROTECTION AGENCY CUT BACK

ON SOME OF ITS REGULATIONS.

THE RULES SET TOUGH NEW

STANDARDS FOR POWER PLANTS

THAT USE COAL.

THE SENATORS ARE FROM COAL

STATES.

JOE MANSION IS ONE OF THEM.

HE WRITES, "NOT ONLY WOULD

THIS RULE HAVE A DEVASTATING

EFFECT ON OUR COAL

PRODUCTION, BUT IT WILL

JEOPARDIZE THE RELIABILITY

AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR

COAL SUPPLIES."

Pat: LEE AND LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, THE E.P.A., THE

ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION

AGENCY, IS OUT OF CONTROL.

IT HAS BEEN RUN BY

DOCTRINEAR LEFTISTS WHO DO

NOT REGARD THE MANDATES OF

CONGRESS AS ANYTHING

SPECIAL.

THEY MAKE THE RULES

REGARDLESS OF WHAT CONGRESS

HAS GIVEN THEM.

THAT IS A PROBLEM.

THEY'RE OUT OF CONTROL.

SO WHEN ONE LEFT WINGER

RESIGNS, THEY'RE GOING TO

PUT ANOTHER ONE IN HER PLACE

THAT WILL BE JUST AS BAD.

AND THEY HAVE A BATTLE

AGAINST AMERICAN INDUSTRY,

BUT ESPECIALLY FOSSEL

FUELS.

AND THE TRUTH IS WE CAN'T

OPERATE OUR POWER PLANTS

WITHOUT FOSSEL FUELS.

WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM.

THERE IS NO WAY THAT

WINDMILLS AND WHATEVER

ELSE -- BIOMASS AND THESE

OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO

FILL THE GAP.

IT HAS GOT TO BE COAL AND IT

HAS GOT TO BE OIL.

FORTUNATELY, NATURAL GAS IS

COMING ALONG, BUT IT IS NOT

THERE YET.

AND, SURE, CLEAN COAL IS

IMPORTANT, BUT THEY HAVE A

RULE THAT IF A NEW POWER

PLANT COMES ON LINE, THEY

HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A NEW

SOURCE REVIEW, WHICH MEANS

THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

BUILDING THAT PLANT HAVE GOT

TO GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE,

EVEN IF THEY PUT A SCRUBBER

IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO

A NEW SOURCE REVIEW, AND IT

WILL COST MILLIONS AND

MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND

INVOLVE THE UTILITY AND ALL

KINDS OF RED TAPE.

AND IT IS JUST A NIGHTMARE.

SO SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE

DONE TO GET THAT AGENCY OUT

OF THE BUSINESS OF

DOMINATING OUR INDUSTRY.

BUT THEY WANT TO ESSENTIALLY

SHUT DOWN -- THAT'S THEIR

GOAL: THEY WANT US TO HAVE A

MORE PASTURAL AND RURAL KIND

OF BUSINESS.

AND IF A COUPLE OF MILLION

PEOPLE DIE FROM STARVATION,

THAT'S TOUGH LUCK.

LEE?

Lee: NO TOURS AT THE

WHITE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON.

REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE

TRIED TO GET THEM STARTED

AGAIN, BUT DEMOCRATS VOTED

DOWN A MEASURE THAT WAS PART

OF AN OVERALL GOVERNMENT

SPENDING PLAN.

MANY CONSERVATIVES HAVE

POINTED TO OTHER AREAS, PAT,

WHERE WASTEFUL SPENDING

COULD BE CUT WITHOUT ANY

REAL HARM TO THE PUBLIC.

Pat: I JUST CAN'T

BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

ARE JUST A BUNCH OF FOOLS.

THIS IS SUCH A GIMMICK, AND

WHAT THESE DEMOCRATS ARE

TRYING TO DO IS THEY SAY WE

WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO MAKE

ANY ALTERATION TO THE

SEQUESTER.

WE WON'T LET YOU SLIDE SOME

MONEY OVER OUT OF ONE POCKET

INTO ANOTHER TO TAKE CARE OF

DEFENSE, TO TAKE CARE OF THE

PARKS SERVICE, TO TAKE CARE

OF IMMIGRATION, TO TAKE CARE

OF NECESSARY HEALTH CARE.

OR IN THE CASE OF THE FEW

THOUSAND DOLLARS, TO LET

TOURISTS COME THROUGH THE

WHITE HOUSE.

THEY WON'T ALLOW IT.

THE DEMOCRATS SAY, NO, WE'RE

NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT.

WHY?

BECAUSE THEY WANT THE PAIN

TO BE INTENSE.

THEY WANT EVERYBODY TO

SUFFER, AND THEN THEY HOPE

TO BE ABLE TO BLAME IT ON

THE REPUBLICANS.

WHY DON'T WE WORK FOR THE

GOOD OF AMERICA?

LEE.

Lee: PAT, SEVERAL

STATES HAVE ISSUED WARNINGS

TO INVESTORS ABOUT A COMPANY

CALLED "PROFITABLE

SUNRISE."

IT PROMISES INVESTORS

RISK-FREE RETURNS OF UP TO

2.7% A DAY ON THEIR MONEY.

CHRISTIANMONEY.COM WARNS

THAT THE COMPANY TARGETS

PEOPLE BY USING GIMMICKS

LIKE BIBLE VERSES AND IMAGES

OF JESUS.

WHAT MANY OF THE SCHEMES

DO IS ACTUALLY PAY THE

CURRENT INVESTORS BY

BRINGING IN NEW INVESTORS.

PII KNOW THIS IS A CLICHE,

BUT IF IT SOUNDS TO BE TRUE,

IT PROBABLY IS.

IF BANKS ARE PAYING 1%, AND

SOMEONE IS TELLING YOU CAN

EARN 2% IN ONE DAY, AND HIS

PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A

PHYSICAL OFFICE LOCATION, IS

NOT PROVIDING YOU WITH A

PERSPECTUS, THESE ARE ALL

OBVIOUS TIPOFFS.

Lee: PARIS AND A

NON-FRAUD INVESTIGATION

GROUP SAY EVEN PASTORS HAVE

FALLEN PREY TO THIS SCHEME.

THEY HAVE COLLECTED MORE

THAN $100 MILLION FROM

INVESTORS.

FOR MORE ON THIS, YOU CAN GO

TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT?

Pat: THANKS, LEE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BE

AWARE OF THESE SCAMSTERS.

ESPECIALLY THOSE IN

RELIGIOUS GARB QUOTING THE

BIBLE.

THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THERE WAS AN OUTFIT KNOWN AS

GREATER DIAMOND THAT HAS

BEEN INVESTIGATED.

AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO

THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER,

AND THE GOVERNMENT FINALLY

STEPS IN AGAINST SOME OF

THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT

THIS SUNRIS SUNRISE

THING -- THEY JUST CAN'T

CHANGE THE LAWS OF

ECONOMICS.

THEY CAN'T DO IT.

I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE WHO

TOLD ME, LISTEN, THEY'VE GOT

THIS SYSTEM WHERE THEY'RE

ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION

IN THEIR HUGE COMPUTERS

ABOUT A HALF A SECOND BEFORE

THE WEST COAST AND,

THEREFORE, THEY CAN TRADE

QUICKLY ON LEVERAGE OR

ARBITRAGE OR WHATEVER TERM

YOU WANT TO GIVE IT.

AND THEY'RE MAKING ALL OF

THIS MONEY.

AND YOU REALLY NEED TOVITY

TO INVEST IN THIS.

IT IS SO GOOD.

I DIDN'T HAVE TIME.

I GUESS BEING LAZY IS A GOOD

THING.

I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO

INVESTIGATE IT, AND THERE

WASN'T ANYWAY I WAS GOING TO

DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

AND LO AND BEHOLD, SOME VERY

FINE PEOPLE GOT HOOKED ON

THAT DEAL.

IT WAS ALL FRAUD.

LISTEN, IT JUST DOESN'T

HAPPEN.

THERE WAS -- LONG-TERM

CAPITAL WAS A BIG ONE.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE

THESE GENIUSES THAT CAME OUT

OF HARVARD AND M.I.T., AND

THEY WERE ABLE TO HAVE THESE

GIANT COMPUTERS TO DO ALL

THESE THINGS.

IT BLEW UP.

IT ALWAYS DOES, TERRY.

Terry: IF IT IS TOO

GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT IS TOO

GOOD TO BE TRUE.

Pat: LISTEN TO IT.

IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T

MAKE MONEY IF YOU PAY

ATTENTION.

THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO

MAKE MONEY, BUT NOT THIS

CRAZY STUFF.

IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

Terry: COMING UP LATER,

GET A TASTE OF HEALTHY

SOUTHERN COOKING, COURTESY

OF PAULA DEAN'S GOVERNMENT.

FIRST, YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHY

THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO PUT

THIS SMALL OYSTER FARM OUT

OF BUSINESS, AND THEY'RE

LYING ABOUT IT.

YOU'LL SEE WHY AND HOW THIS

FARM IS FIGHTING BACK.

THAT'S NEXT.

Pat: WE LIVE IN AN AREA

THAT IS NOTED FOR ITS

SEAFOOD.

THESE TASTY THINGS KNOWN AS

OYSTERS, LYNNE HAVEN

OYSTERS, AND PEOPLE LIKE

OYSTER STEW AND SCALLOPED

OYSTERS AND OYSTERS ON A

HALF SHELL.

AND ON AND ON.

BUT IN CALIFORNIA, THEY ALSO

HAVE OYSTERS.

AND ONE COMPANY, AS I

UNDERSTAND, IS RESPONSIBLE

FOR ABOUT 40% OF ALL OF THE

OYSTERS CONSUMED IN THE

GREAT STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

HOWEVER, THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT SAYS WE WANT TO

USE THIS FOR A PARK, A

NATIONAL PARK.

AND THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO

SHUT THIS BUSINESS DOWN.

40% OF CALIFORNIA'S

OYSTERS.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN

CALIFORNIA IS MAKING A FUSS

ABOUT IT.

THEY'RE USED TO LIBERALS

TAKING OVER, AND MAYBE THEY

WON'T STAND UP.

BUT IF THEIR OYSTERS GET

TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM, WOW!

LET'S WATCH.

Reporter: NORTH OF SAN

FRANCISCO, INSIDE POINT

RAY'S NATIONAL SEAPORT SITS

DRAKE ESTARO.

A HOME FOR DRAKE'S BAY

OYSTER FARM FOR MANY YEARS.

MANY SEE IT AS GREEN

SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE.

THE ADVOCATES SAY THAT

CONGRESS HAS WANTED TO MAKE

IT A FULL WILDERNESS FOR 40

YEARS.

ALL THAT STOOD IN THE WAY IS

THIS COMMERCIAL OYSTER

BUSINESS.

NOW ITS LEASE HAS RUN OUT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

CAN'T TAKE PLACE IN THE

WILDERNESS IS A COMMERCIAL

ENTERPRISE.

WE DON'T HAVE AN

OPPORTUNITY FOR A MARINE

WILDERNESS IN THE U.S.

Reporter: AMY MYERS

STARTED TO PUSH IN CONGRESS

BACK IN THE 1970s.

IT IS THE IDEA OF GOING

SOME PLACE WHERE THE HAND OF

MAN IS NOT FELT.

Reporter: CBS NEWS

VISITED THE BAY.

KEVIN WAS THERE WORRYING IF

HIS 30 WORKERS' JOBS WOULD

ALSO SOON DISAPPEAR.

A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO

HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 25, 30

YEARS, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO

START OVER.

Reporter: HE BOUGHT THE

FARM IN 2004, BELIEVING THAT

THE LEASE WOULD BE RENEWED

IN 2012.

ONLY TO BE TOLD LATER BY THE

GOVERNMENT --

OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE FOT

GOING TO RENEW IN 2012.

Reporter: AND THE

NATIONAL SERVICE SAID IT HAD

RESEARCH THAT DRAKE'S BAY

WAS DOING DAMAGE.

NEIL BISE CALLS THAT

INACCURATE.

ARE WE DOING THIS TO THE

ENVIRONMENT?

I ACTUALLY BELIEVED HIM.

Reporter: THE ONLY

PROBLEM WITH

THIS RESEARCH,

WELL, IT JUST WASN'T TRUE.

Reporter: NATIONAL

ACADEMY OF SCIENCES MEMBER,

CORY GOODMAN, EXPRESSED

SHOCK AT WHAT HE FOUND.

THE PUBLIC PARKS SERVICE

SAYS THIS, BUT WHEN YOU

LOOKED AT THE DATA IT WOULD

BE COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE.

IN SOME CASES, THEY WERE

SIMPLY MAKING THINGS UP.

OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD

BEHAVE BETTER THAN THIS.

Reporter: THAT ABUSE OF

SCIENCE WAS ONE OF THE MAIN

REASONS THIS LAWYER JUMPED

TO THE DEFENSE.

THERE WOULD BE CLAIMS

MADE ABOUT HARM TO SEALS,

HARM FROM BOAT NOISE.

Reporter: AND NONE OF

IT WAS PROVED BY ACTUAL

RESEARCH.

YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE UP

CLAIMS.

THE PARK SERVICE HAS BEEN

LIKE HAVING BLINDERS.

THEY HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTEING

DETERMINED WE'RE GOING TO

GET RID OF THIS OYSTER

FARM.

Reporter: WELL, IT SAYS

THE OYSTER FARM DOES DO BAD

THINGS.

THEY'RE TAKING THEIR

MOTOR BOATS INTO SENSITIVE

AREAS, CONDUCTING ILLEGAL

DEVELOPMENT.

Reporter: AND OTHERS

SAY THE OYSTER FARM DOES

MUCH MORE GOOD THAN HARM.

FRENS, IT IS SURROUNDED BY

HISTORICAL CATTLE FARM.

LONI AND MANY EXPERTS SAY

OYSTERS CAN ACTUALLY CONSUME

THE WASTE.

CUSTOMER CINDY FRENCH

WONDERS WHY THE OYSTERS HAVE

TO GO WHILE THE COWS STAY.

THEY'RE DOING A LOT MORE

DAMAGE THAN THE OYSTERS

ARE.

Reporter: OYSTER

FANATICS SHOWED UP ALL OVER

THIS DAY, EXPECTING TO ENJOY

THEIR LAST SERVING OF WHAT

SOME SAY ARE THE TASTIEST

OYSTERS IN THE WORLD.

FRENCH DROVE TWO HOURS.

THIS IS ALL THERE IS.

Reporter: A FEDERAL

APPEALS COURT HAD JUST

DELAYED THE CLOSURE UNTIL

MAY.

SO INSTEAD A BAD GOOD-BYE,

THEY GOT TO GRADUATE LONI

AND HIS SECOND REPRIEVE, AND

IT SEEMS THAT THE GOVERNMENT

SEEMS SET ON NOTHING LESS

THAN THE 80-YEAR-OLD FARM'S

DESTRUCTION.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS

TRYING TO IMPOSE AN

ARTIFICIAL WILLEDNESS

WILDERNESS IN THE MIDDLE OF

THIS.

WHEN THERE IS AN EFFORT

BY PRIVATE INDUSTRY TO TAKE

THAT AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC,

FROM ALL OF THE TAXPAYERS,

THAT'S SIMPLY A BREAK OF A

PROMISE.

AND THAT CAN HAPPEN

ELSEWHERE.

PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS

PRESSING THE EDGES OF THIS.

Reporter: LONI SAYS HE

HAS BORROWED SO MUCH MONEY

TO IMPROVE THE PLACE, IF HE

LOSES IT, IT WILL BANKRUPT

HIS FAMILY AND OTHERS.

THERE IS A CHANCE THAT MY

PARENTS WILL LOSE THEIR HOME

AND MY BROTHER WILL LOSE HIS

HOME.

Reporter: NOT TO

MENTION WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO

HIS 30 WORKERS, MANY LIVING

IN NEARBY HOMES.

Reporter: THIS IS A

BEAUTIFUL AREA, AND MANY

WANT TO PRESERVE IT, BUT FOR

THAT TO BE TRUE, MUST ALL

THESE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOBS

AND THIS BE CLEARED OUT OF

THE AREA?

Pat: WOW!

WHEN DONNA ODDELLE WAS

SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR,

HE HAD A PRODUCTIVE MEETING

WITH ME.

AND HE SAYS, YOU HAVE TO

UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE

PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP THE

WILDERNESS.

THEY WORSHIP NATURE.

AND THEY THINK THAT ANY

ASSAULT TO THE WILDERNESS IS

LIKE AN ASSAULT ON GOD.

AND THESE ARE RELIGIOUS

FANATICS OF THE HIGHEST

ORDER.

HE DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT I'M

SAYING THAT.

AND FANATACISM IS

EXTRAORDINARY.

I'LL NEVER FORGET THE TIME I

WAS ON A RANCH IN -- WHERE

IN THE WORLD WAS IT --

WYOMING, I THINK.

AND WE WENT OUT ON A TRAIL

RIDE, AND WE CAME TO A

SIGN.

WE WERE GOING THROUGH SCRUB

PINE, AND A BUNCH OF SHALE

ROCK, AND IT WAS KIND OF

GROSS LOOKING, AND SUDDENLY

WE CAME TO A SIGN THAT SAID

YOU ARE NEW ENTERING THE

WILDERNESS.

I EXPECTED HERE IS SOMETHING

UNUSUAL.

AND WHAT WAS IT?

SCRUB PINE AND MORE SHALE

ROCK.

IT DIDN'T LOOK ONE BIT

DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF

IT.

Terry: AS YOU LOOK AT

THE PICTURES THAT WERE TAKEN

FROM THAT STORY, IT LOOKS

LIKE BEAUTIFUL WILDERNESS

NOW.

IT IS PRETTY PRISTINE.

IT IS NOT RUINED BY THIS --

Pat: AND THAT'S ONE OF

THE REASONS YOU SHOULDN'T

EAT THE THINGS, MAYBE, AND

THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE

WASTE OF THE CATTLE AND

PIGS.

IT CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF

SPAWNING OF FLORA YOU DON'T

WANT.

NEVERTHELESS, FOLKS, WE

CAN'T BE IN THE THRAWL TO

ENVIRONMENTAL CRAZIES.

WE'VE GOT TOO MANY OF THEM.

AND THEY'RE SO PERSUASIVE

AND SO ARTICULATE AND SO

BOCIFEROUS.

YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THAT IN

CALIFORNIA, TRIPLE.

Terry: CHECK YOUR

FACTS.

WELL, IF YOU'RE THE TYPE WHO

DROOLS OVER PAULA DEAN'S

SOUTHERN COOKING, BUT YOU'RE

WORRIED HER FOOD WILL CLOG

YOUR ARTERIES, STAY TUNED

FOR THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS.

HER SON, BOBBY, HAS TRIMMED

THE FAT AND CUT THE CALORIES

BUT KEPT THE TASTE.

AND HE'S GOING TO SHOW US

HOW WE CAN DO IT, TOO.

Terry: LIKE MANY FINE

GEORGIANS, BOBBY DEAN IS

FOND OF THAT OLD SAYING,

"EAT LIKE A CHAMP."

AND HE DID.

BUT EVEN CHAMPS NEED TO KNOW

WHEN TO DIAL IT BACK A BIT,

SO BOBBY WENT TO HIS OWN

KITCHEN AND RESOLVED TO FIND

A WAY TO MAKE THIS MOTHER'S

FOOD GOOD FOR YOU.

Reporter: BOBBY DEAN IS

THE SON OF PAULA DEAN.

HE WORKED FOR HIS MOM WHEN

HE WAS A TEENAGER,

DELIVERING LUNCHES.

EVENTUALLY, HE HELPED BUILD

THE BRANDS THAT MADE HER A

HOUSEHOLD NAME.

BOBBY AND HIS BROTHER,

JAMIE, WERE RAISED ON THEIR

MOTHER'S SOUTHERN COOKING.

BUT THEY CAN'T EAT HER RICH

FOOD EVERY DAY.

AS A YOUNG MAN, BOBBY FOUND

HIMSELF 25 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT

AND UNWILLING TO GIVE UP ANY

OF HIS FAVORITE FOODS.

IN HIS COOKBOOK, HE SHARES

THE WAY HE LEARNED TO SLIM

DOWN HIS MOM'S RECIPES

WITHOUT LOSING ONE OUNCE OF

FLAVOR.

Terry: HE IS HERE WITH

US NOW.

BOBBY, GREAT TO HAVE YOU

BACK WITH US.

GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.

Terry: I LOVE THE TITLE

"FROM MAMA'S TABLE TO

MINE."

AND SOME OF THE SUBSTITUTES

FOR 350 CALORIES OR YES.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHOICES

YOU CAN CAN MAKE?

IT IS EASY TO GO WITH A

LOW SODIUM OR LOW IN SUGAR.

IT IS PRETTY CLEAR.

BUT I DID SOME DIGGING

AROUND.

MY MOTHER -- WHEN I WAS A

YOUNG PERSON, I FEEL SO

FORTUNATE SHE TAUGHT ME HOW

TO COOK AND CLEAN UP AFTER

MYSELF.

SHE SAID, BOBBY, WHENEVER

YOU DO SOMETHING, GO EXACTLY

BY THE RECIPE THE FIRST

TIME.

AND THEN AFTER THAT, DO

WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO

AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN.

SO IT WAS A NATURAL

CONDITION FOR ME TO DO

THIS.

IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE.

I ENJOYED DOING IT AND I

LEARNED ALL KINDS OF

THINGS.

AND I'VE GOT SOMETHING I

WANT TO SHOW YOU TODAY.

THIS IS A VERY SOUTHERN

DISH.

THIS IS COUNTRY-FRIED STEAK

AND GRAVY.

PROBABLY EVERYBODY'S MAMA

DID IT AT HOME.

MINE CERTAINLY DID.

THIS IS HOT.

WE'LL START WITH THE GRAVY.

AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO

HELP ME SO WE DON'T BURN

IT.

THAT IS A LOW SODIUM BEEF

BROTH.

WE HAVE A FAT-FREE HALF AND

HALF, WHICH ALMOST DIDN'T

SOUND RIGHT, BUT IT'S TRUE.

WE'LL GET THAT GOING, AND

WE'LL START AND MAKE SURE IT

DOESN'T BURN IN ANY WAY.

AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A

LITTLE FLURRY, WHICH I'VE

HAD HAD PEOPLE TELL ME

THEY'VE NEVER HEARD THAT

WORD.

Terry: I HAVE NOT.

THIS IS GOING TO BE A OUR

THICKENING AGENT.

AND THIS IS CALLED A FLURRY,

WHEN YOU DO IT.

WE'LL ADD THOSE TWO THINGS

TOGETHER, AND WE'LL STIR IT

UNTIL THE CORNSTARCH SORT OF

DISSOLVES.

I'VE CERTAINLY NOT TURNED MY

BACK ON MY HERITAGE OR MY

MOTHER'S FOODS OR COMFORT

FOODS.

I THINK I'VE LEARNED BALANCE

AND MODERATION.

I'VE SORT OF TAKEN SUNDAY

FOOD AND TURNED IT INTO

MONDAY FOOD, IS WHAT I'M

DOING.

THE FLURRY GOES IN AND THAT

WILL THICKEN UP OUR GRAVY.

THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLE,

SIMPLE DISH YOU CAN CAN DO

AT HOME.

THE CRITERIA I WANTED THESE

RECIPES TO FIT IN FOR THIS

BOOK, OBVIOUSLY 350 CALORIES

OR LESS.

AND I WANTED THEM TO BE

SIMPLE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO MUDDY THE

WATERS BY MAKING THE RECIPES

MORE DIFFICULT.

AND I'VE GOT BEAUTIFUL

COOKBOOKS AT HOME THAT ARE

BASICALLY PAPER WEIGHTS, AND

I WANTED THEM TO BE

AFFORDABLE.

ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND

AGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE

COUNTING THEIR PENNIES.

YOU'LL START OUT.

MAKE SURE IT DON'T BURN.

I'LL TURN IT DOWN TO MAKE

DOUBLE SURE IT DOESN'T

BURN.

AND WE'LL GET TO THE OTHER

PART OF THE RECIPE, WHICH IS

THE CUBE STEAK.

THIS IS CUBE STEAK.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE CUBE STEAK

AT HOME, OR IF FOR SOME

REASON YOU CAN'T GET YOUR

HANDS ON IT, YOU CAN USE A

TOP OR BOTTOM ROUND AND

POUND IT OUT WITH YOUR OWN

MEAT MALLET.

THIS IS HOUSE SEASONING --

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL

IT.

MY MAMA AND M

Y BROTHER

AND I

ALL KEEP THIS ON OUR KITCHEN

COUNTERS.

IT IS SALT, PEPPER, AND

GARLIC POWDER.

IT IS A GREAT SEASONING FOR

FISH, FOWL, ANYTHING YOU

WANT TO DO.

YOU'VE GOT AN EGG MIXTURE,

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE 1%

MILK AND EGG AND A FEW

DASHES OF HOT SAUCE.

STANDARD STUFF.

OVER HERE WE HAVE

UNSWEETENED CORNFLAKES.

THIS IS CLEVER AS WELL.

YOU CAN GO TO YOUR BREAKFAST

AISLE AND FIND

UNSWEETENED -- THAT'S THE

IMPORTANT PART, UNSWEETENED

CONSTITUENT AND POUND THEM

OUT.

Terry: I THOUGHT IT WAS

CORN MEAL.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT.

WE'LL RUN OUR FLECK STEAKS

THROUGH THE FLOUR, AND INTO

THE EGG WHITES, AND I THINK

YOU SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING

HERE.

THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

THIS AND MY MAMA'S, AND LOTS

OF FOLK'S MAMA'S RECIPES IS

WE'RE GOING TO BAKE IT

INSTEAD OF FRY IT.

Terry: MAKING SURE IT

IS COVERED.

YES, MA'AM.

AND WE'LL POP THEM INTO THE

OVEN, AND I THINK THROUGH

THE MAGIC OF TELEVISION,

WE'LL HAVE ONE WE CAN TAKE A

LOOK AT.

THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE.

NOTHING IS EXPENSIVE.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE

THAT IS A MAJOR VILLAIN IN A

RECIPE.

THIS IS A VERY NATURALLY LOW

IN FAT RECIPE SO FAR.

BANG, BANG, I'M GOING TO POP

THESE INTO THE OVEN.

IF YOU'LL WATCH OUR GRAVY.

Terry: I'M STILL

STIRRING.

THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.

I'LL POP THESE INTO THE

OVEN, AND I'LL COME BACK

WITH SOMETHING FOR YOU.

IF YOU NEED TO YOU, CAN TURN

THAT OFF, IF IT'S READY.

Terry: HOW THICK DO YOU

WANT IT?

WELL, IT WAS LOOKING

PRETTY CLOSE WHEN I PEEKED

OVER YOUR SHOULDER.

THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL TO ME.

WE CAN TURN IT OFF.

I THINK WE CAN TURN IT OFF.

NOW, LOOK AT THAT.

THAT'S REALLY, REALLY

SIMPLE, AND THAT'S HOT.

SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL.

DON'T TOUCH IT.

WE CAN MAKE A LITTLE BEAUTY

HERE AS WE CALL IT IN THE

RESTAURANT BUSINESS.

HOW ABOUT THAT?

A COUPLE OF PIECES OF

COUNTRY-FRIED STEAK.

WE'VE GOT A LADLE, AND WHY

DON'T YOU LADLE SOME OF THE

PEPPER GRAVY OVER IT.

LET'S SEE IF IT IS PRETTY

ENOUGH TO TAKE A PICTURE

OF.

OOH, OAK A LOOK AT THAT

THERE.

THAT'S A DISH --

Terry: CAN I TASTE IT?

RIGHT AFTER MY OWN

HEART.

THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN

FEEL GOOD ABOUT FEEDING YOUR

FAMILY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

IT IS NOT FRIED.

IT IS HEART-HEALTHY.

AND IT IS A SIMPLE AND

AFFORDABLE DISH.

WERE YOU ABOUT TO TELL ME

SOMETHING?

Terry: I'M LOOKING AT

ALL OF THIS, AND WE'RE

RUNNING SHORT ON TIME, BUT I

WANT YOU TO TELL US QUICKLY

WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN THERE?

CRABCAKES, AND WE WERE

TALKING ABOUT MODERATION.

THESE ARE MINI CRABCAKES,

THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN EAT

MANY MORE OF THEM.

AND A CASSEROLE.

MACARONI AND CHEESE.

Terry: THIS IS

SOUTHERN.

MACARONI AND CHEESE AND RED

VELVET CASE.

AND LOOK AT HOW BEAUTIFUL.

THIS IS 350 CALORIES?

PER SERVING.

THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO

REMEMBER.

AND I THINK PEOPLE MAY HAVE

LOST SIGHT OF WHAT A SERVING

SIZE IS.

Terry: THERE IS SO MUCH

IN THERE.

I LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE

WHAT I'M COOKING, AND THE

PICTURES IN HERE, FABULOUS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET

GREAT MEAL IDEAS, GET

BOBBY'S BOOK, CALLED "FROM

MAMA'S TABLE TO MINE."

WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO

ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.

I HAVE ALREADY EARMARKED

MINE.

THANK YOU.

Terry: DON SAYS, "GOD

CALLS SOME FOOD UNCLEAN.

SHOULD WE EAT IT ANYWAY?"

WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION

AND MORE AND IT'S COMING UP

Reporter: WELCOME TO

WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN NEWS

BREAK.

THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST

CONVENTION IS EXPANDING

NORTH.

SINCE 2002, SOUTHERN

BAPTISTS HAVE SPENT MORE

THAN $5 MILLION PLANTING

CHURCHES AROUND THE REGION.

ANOTHER $800,000 HAS BEEN

COMMITTED FOR THIS YEAR.

THE NEW ENGLAND REGION HAS

BEEN SKEPTICAL OF THE

SOUTH.

STILL OVER THE LAST 11

YEARS, MORE THAN 100 NEW

CHURCHES HAVE BEEN PLANTED.

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS LIKELY

TO BECOME LEGAL SOON IN NEW

ZEALAND.

LAWMAKERS RECENTLY PASSED A

BILL THAT ALLOWS GAY

MARRIAGE IN THE SECOND OF

THREE VOTES THAT HAS TO BE

TAKEN BEFORE A BILL BECOMES

LAW.

THE THIRD VOTE IS LIKELY TO

BE LITTLE MORE THAN A

FORMALITY.

WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE,

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: WE WANT TO TAKE

SOME TIME TO ANSWER SOME OF

THE E-MAIL QUESTIONS THAT

YOU'VE SENT IN.

THE FIRST ONE IS FROM DON

WHO SAYS, "GOD CALLS SOME

FOOD UNCLEAN.

SHOULD WE EAT IT ANYWAY?"

Pat: IF YOU REMEMBER

WHEN PETER HAD A REVELATION

BEFORE HE WENT TO THE HOUSE

OF CORNELIUS.

THE LORD SAID, DON'T CALL

WHAT I'VE CLEANSED UNCLEAN.

SO I THINK THE LORD HIMSELF

PRONOUNCED ALL FOODS CLEAN.

SO ALL OF THOSE DIETARY

THINGS ARE IN THE OLD

TESTAMENT.

BUT THERE ARE SOME PRACTICAL

SOLUTIONS.

PORK -- THE PIG DOESN'T HAVE

THE SECOND STOMACH THAT A

COW HAS, AND THE DANGER OF

TRICHINOSIS IS VERY STRONG

WITH PIGS OUT IN THE WILD.

FOWLS, THEY FEED ON GARBAGE,

AND THAT WHICH DOESN'T HAVE

FINS AND SCALE.

ALL OF THIS SEE FOOD, PEOPLE

CAN GET DEATHLY ILL FROM

EATING CRAB MEAT BECAUSE

THEY HAVE INGESTED SO MUCH

BAD STUFF.

AND RAW FISH, PEOPLE ARE

GETTING TERRIBLY SICK FROM

EATING CERTAIN THANK THINGS

THEY SHOULDN'T EAT.

SO IT IS A PRACTICAL

SUGGESTION.

Terry: SARAH SAYS, "I

UNDERSTAND FROM THE WORD

THAT WHEN WE GO TO HEAVEN,

WE WILL RECEIVE A GLORIFIED

NEW BODY.

WHEN JESUS APPEARED TO

THOMAS, HE STILL HAD HIS

SCARRED HANDS.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?"

Pat: HE TOLD MARY I

HAVEN'T YET DESCENDED TO MY

FATHER.

AS YOU CONTEMPLATE THAT, I

BELIEVE THAT HE COULD APPEAR

ANY WAY HE WANTED TO.

A SPIRIT CAN TRANSFORM

ITSELF INTO VARIOUS TYPES OF

THINGS BECAUSE A SPIRIT IS A

TYPE OF ENERGY.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO

ALL OF THIS --

Terry: I THINK OF THAT

ALMOST AS A -- TROPHY IS THE

WRONG WORD, BUT THE

SUFFERING AND THE REDEMPTIVE

WORK THAT WAS DONE, NOT

SOMETHING THAT WAS A WOUND

AFTER THE FACT.

Pat: SOMEBODY SAYS WE

HAVE A WOUNDED SAVIOR, BUT

HE HADN'T ASCENDED TO HEAVEN

YET.

Terry: LIDIA SAYS, "I'M

CONSTANTLY BEING ATTACKED

AND BEING ACCUSED OF BEING A

FAKE CHRISTIAN WHEN I'M

NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH A

CERTAIN BEHAVIOR, I'M TOLD,

WOW, WHAT CHRISTIAN YOU

ARE.

HOW CAN I DEFEND MYSELF?"

Pat: THIS NONSENSE OF

WHAT A CHRISTIAN SHOULD BE

OR NOT.

IT IS AMAZING HOW

NON-CHRISTIANS SET THE BAR

OF WHAT CHRISTIANS ARE

SUPPOSED TO DO.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MEEK

AND MILD AND TAKE ALL OF THE

ABUSE THAT IS HEAPED UPON

YOU.

AND IF YOU ANSWER BACK, IT'S

NOT CHRISTIAN.

LET ME TELL YOU THIS THING,

THOUGH, DON'T FIGHT WITH

THEM.

DON'T TRY TO DEFEND

YOURSELF.

IT ISN'T WORTH IT.

LET THE LORD DEFEND YOU.

IF ALL YOU DO IS SAY, I LOVE

YOU.

ONE DAY YOU WILL SEE IT.

IN THE MEANTIME, GOD BLESS

YOU.

Terry: "MY HUSBAND AND

I ARE NEW CHRISTIANS.

WE HAVE MANY NON-CHRISTIANS

AND FAMILY.

JAMES 4: 4 SAYS, DO YOU NOT

KNOW THAT FRIENDSHIP IS AN

ENEMY WITH THE WORLD.

DOES THIS MEAN WE SHOULD CUT

TIES WITH ALL FRIENDS AND

FAMILY WHO ARE NOT

CHRISTIANS?"

Pat: JUST THE

OPPOSITE.

PAUL SAID IF I DIDN'T

ASSOCIATE WITH LIARS AND

IMMORAL PEOPLE, I WOULD HAVE

TO GO OUT OF THE WORLD.

WHAT JAMES IS TALKING ABOUT

IS EMBRACING THE PHILOSOPHY

OF THE WORLD AND MAKING IT

YOUR OWN.

THE LIF LIFESTYLE, THE WAY

OF THINKING, THE

PHILOSOPHICAL

RESUPPOSTIONS.

FRIENDSHIP WITH THE WORLD --

I HAVE EMBRACED THEIR WAY OF

LOOKING AT THINGS -- THEN

YOU'RE AN ENEMY OF GOD.

JESUS WENT OUT AND HE WAS

CRITICIZED FOR SITTING DOWN

AND EATING WITH HARLETS AND

WINE BIBBERS AND SINNERS --

Terry: AND TAX

COLLECTORS.

Pat: TAX COLLECTORS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REACH

THEM IF YOU DON'T GO OUT AND

TALK TO PEOPLE.

WELL, UP NEXT, WE'LL MEET A

PASTOR, ONE WHO USED TO BE

HOMELESS AND DESTITUDE, AND

HE NOW PREACHES IN FRONT OF

NEARLY A MILLION BELIEVERS.

Pat: INDIA, A SUB

CONTINENT, IT IS HOME TO

MORE ONE BILLION PEOPLE.

ONLY 2% ARE SUPPOSED TO BE

CHRISTIAN.

THAT IS STARTING TO CHANGE.

AS REVIVAL IS BREAKING OUT

ACROSS THAT NATION.

AND ONE PASTOR IS AT THE

CENTER OF IT ALL.

Reporter: PASTOR

R.ABRAHAM WALKED AWAY FROM

HIS CAREER AS A CHEMIST IN

INDIA NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO TO

ANSWER GOD'S CALL TO THE

MINISTRY.

MONTHS LATER, THE

21-YEAR-OLD WAS BROKE,

HOMELESS, AND HUNGRY.

I THOUGHT ANYONE WHO HAS

GOT ANY COMMON SENSE SHOULD

NEVER BECOME A PASTOR.

Reporter: AFTER TWO

YEARS OF PRAYER AND

PATIENCE, PASTOR ABRAHAM

JOINED FORCES WITH OTHER

MINISTER TO START NEW INDIA

CHURCH OF GOD.

THE ORGANIZATION REACHES

ACROSS THAT COUNTRY THROUGH

MORE THAN 3,000 CHURCHES, 16

BIBLE COLLEGES, 14

ORPHANAGES, AND SIX

SCHOOLS.

Pat: WOULD YOU PLEASE

WELCOME PASTOR ABRAHAM.

SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH

US.

THANK YOU.

Pat: WELCOME.

[APPLAUSE]

Pat: GOD SPOKE TO YOU

WHEN YOU WERE A YOUNG MAN.

WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?

I WAS JUST 21 YEARS OLD.

I WAS WORKING FOR A

PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY.

AND WHILE I WAS PRAYING ONE

DAY, THE LORD SPOKE TO ME.

IT WAS ALMOST LIKE AN

AUDIBLE VOICE.

HE SAID, THIS IS NOT YOUR

JOB.

I WANT TO DESIGN YOUR JOB.

GO AND PREACH THE GOSPEL.

THE NATION OF INDIA NEEDS

YOU.

Pat: DID YOU KNOW WHAT

THAT MEANT?

NO.

NO IDEA.

I CRIED AND I TRIED MY LEVEL

BEST TO GET OUT OF IT.

BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THE

PASTORS AND THE PEOPLE

WORKING THE MINISTRY WERE SO

MISERABLEL MISERABLY POOR,

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BE ONE

OF THEM.

Pat: WE LOVE THE INDIAN

PEOPLE.

BUT INDIA WAS IN THE GRIP OF

MUSLIMS AND --

300 MILLION GODS.

Pat: 300 MILLION GODS.

HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH IT?

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO INDIA

NOW?

INDIA IS ALWAYS IN THE

GRIP OF IDOL WORSHIP.

AND WE ARE HAVING SO MUCH

TROUBLE BECAUSE OF THE

DEMONIC ACTIVITIES.

WHEREVER YOU GO, YOU'RE

SEEING DEMONIC

DEMONSTRATION.

Pat: WHAT DO YOU SEE,

FOR EXAMPLE?

LIKE PEOPLE -- DEMONS

MANIFESTING FROM THE

PEOPLE.

Pat: YEAH?

YOU WILL KNOW.

Pat: THEY SCREAM AND

JERK --

OH, YEAH.

AND THEY TEAR THEIR CLOTHES

AND THEY COME AFTER YOU.

IF YOU'RE NOT STANDING IN

GOD'S ANOINTING, YOU BETTER

WATCH OUT OR IT WILL HAPPEN

LIKE IN THE BIBLE, THEY'RE

RUNNING WITH NO CLOTHES ON.

THAT COULD HAPPEN IF YOU'RE

NOT COVERED WITH THE BLOOD.

Pat: SOMEHOW THE PEOPLE

WANT GOD.

THEY'RE A VERY RELIGIOUS

PEOPLE.

YOU HAVE AN INCREDIBLE

MINISTRY?

THEY DON'T KNOW.

THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER.

ALL THESE GODS OF ANY SHAPE

AND FORM, THAT'S ALL THEY

KNOW.

BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING

ANYWHERE.

WE'RE BRINGING THE MESSAGE

OF HOPE, AND HE LOVES YOU.

AND THEY CANNOT TAKE IT.

THEY THINK THE GODS ARE

THERE TO BEAT THEM UP AND

KEEP THEM POOR.

SO WHEN YOU BRING A MESSAGE

OF HOPE, THEY RESPOND.

Pat: A TERRIBLE FEAR

ISN'T IT, FEAR OF DEATH,

FEAR OF DEMONS, FEAR OF

EVERYTHING.

THAT IS PERVASIVE.

AND ALSO THE CURRENT

SYSTEM, WHICH IS SO MUCH

CONNECTED WITH THE IDOL

WORSHIP, WHICH IS DESTROYING

PEOPLE.

IF YOU'RE FROM A LOW CAST,

WHAT YOU CALL THE

UNTOUCHABLE, YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT ALMOST MORE THAN

100 MILLION PEOPLE.

Pat: WERE YOU IN A

CAST?

DID YOU HAVE ONE?

I'M FROM SOUTH INDIA.

SO WE ARE FROM THE HIGHEST

CLASS.

THE CHRISTIANS -- THEY CLAIM

TO BE FROM THE BROMAN.

Pat: YOU DIDN'T HAVE

THE UNTOUCHABLES.

GOD CALLS YOU, AND YOU GIVE

UP YOUR WORK IN A FARM

PHARMACEUTICAL, AND THEN YOU

START STARVING?

YES, BECAUSE, AS I SAID,

I DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA.

I RESIGNED MY JOB, PICKED UP

A SHOULDER BAG, AND MY

BIBLE, AND I WAS ON THE

ROAD.

AFTER SOME WEEKS, I SPENT

ALL OF MY MONEY.

AND HERE I WAS, I WAS NOT A

PREACHER, AND SO NOBODY

INVITED ME TO PREACH.

I DIDN'T KNOW ANYBODY, AND I

WAS IN A STRANGE PLACE.

SUDDENLY I WAS GOING WITHOUT

FOOD AND NO PLACE TO STAY.

I USED TO WORK ABOUT 15,

20 MILES EVERY DAY.

Pat: DID YOU THINK GOD

HAD FORSAKEN YOU?

I THOUGHT GOD DID A

MISTAKE.

I DIDN'T THINK HE FORSAKED

ME.

WE HAVE THESE BIBLICAL

NAMES, AND THOUSANDS OF

ABRAHAMS, JACOBS, AND

JOHNS.

I THOUGHT HE MUST HAVE

CALLED ME THINKING I WAS

SOME OTHER ABRAHAM.

Pat: I SEE.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A

SON.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

Pat: WELL, WHAT FINALLY

TURNED THINGS AROUND?

WELL, I THOUGHT WE CAN'T

WAIT ANY LONGER.

AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS, I

JOINED WITH MY

BROTHER-IN-LAW.

SO GOD GAVE ME THE VISION,

EVANGELIZE THE NATION OF

INDIA.

IF HE ASKED ME EARLIER, DO

YOU HAVE A VISION?

NO.

NOW THERE IS 1.2 BILLION

PEOPLE.

SO WE WENT INTO THE STREET,

AND STARTING TO HAVE STREET

MEETINGS ON THE SIDE OF THE

ROAD.

SO 100 TO 200 PEOPLE WOULD

COME AND WE PRAYED FOR THE

SICK.

AND RIGHT ON THE LORD'S

SIDE, THAT'S WHERE

MIRACULOUS THINGS HAPPENED,

LIKE BLIND EYES OPENED, THE

LAME WALKED.

AND DEMONS SCREAMING AND

COMING OUT OF THEIR LIVES.

Pat: YOU SAW IT RIGHT

THERE ON THE STREET?

RIGHT ON THE STREET.

NOT IN AN ORGANIZED

STADIUM.

SO PEOPLE CAME AND GAVE

THEIR HEARTS TO THE LORD,

AND WE BAPTIZED THEM.

AND SO THAT'S HOW WE STARTED

THE CHURCH.

Pat: AND NOW YOU HAVE

HOW MANY?

3,500 DHURCHES.

500 CHURCHES.

Pat: IN HOW MANY

YEARS?

SINCE '76.

SO ABOUT 39 YEARS.

Pat: WHAT DO YOU SEE

FOR INDIA?

I BELIEVE THAT INDIA IS

ON THE SHOULDER OF A GREAT

REVIVAL.

I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU

JUST IN ONE OF MY LITTLE

CHURCHES, REVIVAL HAS BROKEN

OUT ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.

AT CHURCH, WE CAN ONLY FEED

40 PEOPLE ON THE FLOOR.

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, MAYBE

SMALLER THAN THE AREA WE'RE

SITTING.

ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, ABOUT

30 PEOPLE WALKED IN ON A

SUNDAY, THAT IS ALMOST

DOUBLING THE CHURCH.

THEY SAID WE CAME HERE

BECAUSE WE FELT WE WANTED

PRAYER.

SO THEY CAME AND THEY PRAYED

AND GOD HEALED THEM.

AND THEN IT BECAME, THE NEXT

WEEK, 80, 150, TWO MONTHS

DOWN THE ROAD, 500.

SO THE WHOLE AREA WAS ALL

PEOPLE SITTING UNDER THE

TREE EVERYWHERE.

AND GOD WAS DOING AMAZING

THINGS, THE BORN BLIND AND

LAME, HEALED INSTANTLY.

AND NOW WE HAVE 3,000 PEOPLE

EVERY DAY.

Pat: THAT TINY PLACE?

IN THAT TINY PLACE.

TWO PEOPLE WERE RAISED FROM

THE DEAD.

AND PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM

ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT

STATES.

Pat: THERE IS NOTHING

THOSE THREE MILLION GODS CAN

CAN DO.

DO.

AND AN INTERESTING THING,

THE MILITANTS CAME AND TRIED

TO STOP US.

BUT THE PASTORS DON'T KNOW

ANYTHING.

AND THEY SAID STOP THIS

THING.

AND THEY SAID, WE'RE NOT

DOING ANYTHING HERE.

WE'RE PRAYING AND ASKING GOD

TO BLESS US.

DO YOU WANT GOD'S BLESSING?

AND THEY LIFTED THEIR HANDS,

AND THE GUYS WERE ON THE

FLOOR, AND THEY GOT UP AND

RAN FOR THEIR LIFE.

THEY SAID WE'LL NEVER COME

BACK HERE.

Pat: YOU MUST THINK

THAT INDIA IS GOING TO COME

TO THE LORD.

I BELIEVE SO.

WHAT IS HAPPENING IS A

LITTLE TASTE OF IT.

AND THE LORD SPOKE TO ME AS

I WAS THERE WITH THEM, IN

THIS TINY LITTLE PLACE.

THE LORD SAID TO ME, I WANT

TO DIVIDE THREE ACRES OF

LAND.

AND PUT UP JUST 10 GROVES TO

ENABLE 10,000 PEOPLE TO COME

AND WORSHIP EVERY DAY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M PRAYING

FOR.

Pat: PRAISE GOD.

ALL TOGETHER, THOUGH, THE

CONGREGATIONS, HOW MANY

HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS -- HOW

MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE?

WE'VE GOT HUNDREDS OF

THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER

THE COUNTRY.

Pat: WELL, GOD BLESS

YOU.

I'M THRILLED TO SEE YOU.

AND MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU

AND YOUR MINISTRY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Pat: LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, GOD IS WORKING

AROUND THE WORLD.

TERRY!

Terry: EXCITING.

HERE IS ANOTHER EXCITING

THING.

IT IS OFFICIALLY SPRINGTIME

HERE.

BUT THE END OF WINTER ISN'T

THE ONLY REASON WHY WE'RE

CELEBRATING THIS WEEK.

HERE IS GORDON TO TELL YOU

MORE.

Gordon: WHEN WE ASKED

MY DAD HOW COULD WE HONOR

HIM ON HIS 80th BIRTHDAY,

HE SAID, I WANT TO BUILD A

CHAPEL ON THE CAMPUS OF CBN

AND REGENT UNIVERSITY THAT

WOULD BE A TRIBUTE TO GOD'S

FAITHFULNESS.

THIS IS WHAT IS ON MY DADS

HEART.

Pat: A CHAPEL.

THIS WILL ENABLE US TO SEND

THOUSANDS OF SERVANTS OF THE

LORD TO SERVE HIM IN THIS

COUNTRY, IN AFRICA, SOUTH

AMERICA, AND ASIA, AND ALL

OVER THE WORLD.

Terry: WELL, TOMORROW,

YOUNG MAN, YOUR 80th

BIRTHDAY WISH COMES TRUE.

IT HAS TAKEN US A LITTLE BIT

OF TIME TO GET THAT DONE FOR

YOU.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE

DEDICATING THE NEW REGENT

UNIVERSITY CHAPEL ON MARCH

22nd, WHICH ALSO HAPPENS

TO BE PAT'S BIRTHDAY.

Pat: I DON'T KNOW AT

WHAT POINT.

83 HAS BECOME THE NEW 40.

Terry: I'M HOPING SO.

IT IS THE LOW-FAT CAKE.

Pat: BOBBY COOKED THAT

FOR US.

IT IS THE REPLICA OF THE

CHAPEL.

FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS

TIME.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE

DOING.

AND WE PRAISE YOU FOR THE

YEARS THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED

ME AND ALL OF OUR DEAR

FRIENDS AND PARTNERS.

IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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