Raised on his mother Paula Deen's exquisite foods, Bobby Deen shares his healthy take on Southern cuisine. Plus, founder of New India Church of God, Ranjit Abraham discusses how Christianity is spreading in his nation.
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Lee: THE GUSTAN WANS
GOVERNMENT WANTS TO CREATE
JOBS, RIGHT?
SO WHY IS IT TRYING TO SHUT
THIS PLACE DOWN?
A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE
BEEN HERE FOR 25, 30 YEARS,
ARE GOING TO HAVE TO START
OVER.
Lee: YOU WON'T BELIEVE
HOW FAR THE FEDS WILL GO.
IN SOME CASES, THEY WERE
SIMPLY MAKING THINGS UP.
Lee: PLUS...LIKE
MOTHER, LIKE SON.
PAULA DEAN'S YOUNGEST SON,
BOBBY, COMES TO OUR KITCHEN
WITH A COUPLE OF TWEAKS TO
HIS MAMA'S RECIPE, ON
TODAY'S "700 CLUB."
Pat: WELCOME, LADIES
AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS
EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."
A FEW YEARS AGO, I WROTE A
SCIENCE FICTION NOVEL CALLED
THE END OF THE AGES, BASED
ON BIBLICAL TRUTH, BUT IT
WAS NEVERTHELESS THERE.
AND ONE OF THE SCENARIOS, IF
I CAN USE THAT TERM, I HAD
THE PRESIDENT COMMITTING
SUICIDE ON TELEVISION
BECAUSE HE CUT THE FUNDING
FOR ASTEROID RESEARCH.
GUESS WHAT?
THEY'RE DOING IT IN
WASHINGTON, AND NASA SAID
YOU'VE TAKEN AWAY OUR
MONEY.
AND IF YOU WANT TO KEEP
ASTEROIDS FROM HITTING YOU,
WE RECOMMEND YOU PRAY.
HEY, HOW ABOUT THAT?
IT SOUNDS LIKE SCIENCE
FICTION OR A HOLLYWOOD
MOVIE, BUT IT IS ALL TOO
REAL.
THE THREAT OF A MASSIVE
ASTEROID SLAMMING INTO THE
EARTH.
TERRY?
Terry: IF ONE OF THESE
SPACE ROCKS DID HIT, IT
WOULD CAUSE ENORMOUS DAMAGE,
AND COULD KILL MILLIONS.
NASA SCIENTISTS ARE TELLING
CONGRESS THEY NEED MORE
MONEY TO FIND THESE DEADLY
THREATS FROM SPACE BEFORE
THEY STRIKE, AND EPHRAIM
GRAHAM HAS THE STORY.
Reporter: SCIENTISTS
SHARED A GRIM REALITY WITH
LAWMAKERS IN THIS WEEK'S
ASTEROID HEARINGS ON CAPITOL
HILL.
THERE IS ALMOST NO WAY TO
STOP ASTEROIDS AND DEBRIS
FROM HURTLING TOWARDS
EARTH.
THE CHIEF WAS ASKED WHAT HIS
AGENCY COULD DO IF A LARGE
ASTEROID WAS HEADED FOR
EARTH WEEKS BEFORE IMPACT.
THE ANSWER TO HIM WAS: "IF
IT IS COMING IN THREE WEEKS,
PRAY."
SCIENTISTS SAY THE ONLY WAY
TO PROTECT EARTH IS TO HAVE
DECADES OF ADVANCED WARNING
OF AN OBJECT HEADING OUR
WAY.
20, 30, 40 YEARS OF
NOTICE, IT IS ACTUALLY EASY
TO DETECT AN ASTEROID.
Reporter: SCIENTISTS
SAID WITHOUT A PROGRAM TO
DETECT THEM, WE COULD NEVER
DETECT THEM IN TIME TO
PREVENT MASS CASUALTIES.
IF IT HAPPENED IN NEW
YORK CITY, WE WOULD HAVE
SEVEN MILLION CASUALTIES.
Reporter: IN 2005,
CONGRESS TOLD NASA TO FIND
90% OF THESE SPACE OBJECTS.
NAS IS SAYS BECAUSE OF
BUDGET CUTS, THEY WON'T BE
ABLE TO GET THAT DONE UNTIL
2070.
IT IS MEAFTED THERE
ESTIMATED THERE MAY BE
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS THAT
REMAIN UNKNOWN.
SCIENTISTS SAY THAT WHILE
THE ODDS OF AN ASTEROID
STRIKE CAUSING MASS
CASUALTIES AND DESTRUCTION
ARE VERY SMALL, THE
CONSEQUENCES ARE LARGE, SO
LARGE THAT THE RISK MUST BE
TAKEN SERIOUSLY.
I JUST, AGAIN, WANT TO
POINT OUT THERE IS IS A 30%
CHANCE THAT THERE IS A FIVE
MEGA TON OR SO IMPACT THAT
IS GOING TO HAPPEN AT A
RANDOM LOCATION ON THIS
PLANET THIS CENTURY.
SO THIS IS NOT
HYPOTHETICAL.
Reporter: EPHRAIM
GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.
Pat: WHEN YOU READ THE
NEW TESTAMENT, AND YOU SEE
THE PROPHECIES THAT JESUS
CHRIST OUTLIP OUTLINE,
THERE IS NOTHING ELSE THAT
WILL FULFILL IT BESIDES AN
ASTEROID.
THE SUN WON'T GIVE ITS
LIGHT, THE MOON WON'T SHINE,
AND MEN'S HEARTS WILL FEAR.
THERE IS NOTHING WILL DO IT,
AND IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH.
THE ONE I HAD IN THE BOOK
WAS 6/10ths OF A MILE.
Terry: AND YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT MUCH LARGER.
Pat: OH, YES.
THOSE THINGS, THEY CALL THEM
EXTINCTERS BECAUSE IT WIPES
OUT ALL LIFE IN THE AREA.
MINE HAD A LIMITED RANGE.
I HAD A BRIEF MOMENT WITH
STEVEN SPIELBERG, WHO WAS
ALSO DOING ONE.
AND I SAID WOULD YOU LIKE TO
DO A LITTLE RESEARCH.
HERE IS WHAT IS GOING TO
HAPPEN.
I GAVE HIM A COPY OF MY
BOOK, AND HE HAD ANOTHER ONE
CALLED ARMAGEDDON.
DO YOU REMEMBER THAT ONE?
THEY HAD A MOVIE.
Terry: I DO.
Pat: HE READ MY BOOK.
AND HE HAD HIS SPLASHDOWN
OFF OF VIRGINIA BEACH, AND I
HAD MY SPLASHDOWN OFF OF
CALIFORNIA COAST.
I THOUGHT, WE SHOULD HAVE IT
IN CALIFORNIA.
AND HE HAD HIS IN VIRGINIA
BEACH.
Terry: THERE IS
SELF-PROTECTION IN
EVERYBODY'S.
Pat: PEOPLE WERE
FLEEING UP TO THE
MOUNTAINS.
AND WE LAUGH THE IT, BUT,
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS
REAL.
THEY THINK THAT'S WHAT WIPED
OUT THE DINOSAURS.
IT WAS A HIT PROBABLY SOME
PLACE AROUND THE YUCATAN
PENINSULA.
THERE IS A GREAT BIG HOLE IN
THE OCEAN DOWN THERE WHERE
ONE OF THEM PROBABLY HIT.
IT DOESN'T TAKE MUCH, BUT A
FAIRLY GOOD SIZE.
THE ONE THAT FLEW OVER
SIBERIA AND EXPLODED WOULD
HAVE BEEN ENOUGH TO WIPE OUT
LONDON.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT GASLY.
BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE SO
HUGE AND SO HOT, AND THEY
EXPLODE SO LOUDLY, AND IT IS
THE FORCE OF MANY, MANY,
MANY HYDROGEN NUCLEAR
BOMBS.
WE DON'T WANT TO SCARE
ANYBODY, BUT READ THE
BIBLE.
READ WAS JESUS HAD TO SAY
ABOUT THE LAST DAYS, AND
THAT WILL FULFILL IT.
AND ALSO IF IT IS AVAILABLE,
BUT YOU OUGHT TO READ IT.
Terry: I THINK THEY CAN
FIND IT.
Pat: I WOULD LIKE TO
BRING IT BACK AGAIN BECAUSE
IT IS VERY TIMELY.
WHILE NASA IS CONCERNED
ABOUT ASTEROIDS, ISRAELIS
HAVE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT
PALESTINIAN ROCKET ATTACKS.
LEE WEBB HAS MORE ON THAT
FROM THE CBN NEWS ROOM.
HERE IS LEE.
Lee: PALESTINIAN
TERRORISTS LAUNCHED ROCKET
ATTACKS INTO
SOUTHERN ISRAEL
TODAY BEFORE PRESIDENT
OBAMA'S MEETING WITH
PALESTINIAN LEADERS.
THE PRESIDENT WANTS TO TALK
ABOUT A PEACE DEAL, AND HE
SPENT MUCH OF THE DAY WITH
ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.
CHRIS MITCHELL HAS THE STORY
FROM JERUSALEM.
Reporter: DAY TWO OF
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S VISIT.
HE STARTED AS THE ISRAEL
MUSEUM, LOOKING AT THE
ANCIENT DEAD SEA SCROLLS.
AS FAR AS ISRAEL IS
CONCERNED, THINGS SEEM TO BE
GOING WELL.
ONE COMMENTATOR REMARKED, IF
THIS IS THE WAY WE GREET
OBAMA, WHAT IS LEFT FOR THE
MESSIAH.
ANY PREVIOUS ANIMOSITY
BETWEEN OBAMA AND NETANYAHU
APPEAR TO BE GONE.
I THINK THE ISRAELI
PEOPLE ARE VERY HAPPY THAT
PRESIDENT OBAMA IS GETTING
OFF TO A NEW SECOND START
WITH PRIME MINISTER
NETANYAHU, AND I THINK THAT
IS VERY IMPORTANT.
I THINK IT IS A MORE
REALISTIC APPRAISAL OF THE
MIDDLE EAST.
Reporter: BEHIND THE
PHOTO OPS, GOODWILL, AND THE
MASSIVE SECURITY, ARE THE
MAJOR ISSUES FACING THESE
TWO NATIONS, THE CIVIL WAR
IN SYRIA, NO NEGOTIATIONS
BETWEEN ISRAEL AND THE
PALESTINIAN, AND THE MOST
SERIOUS ISSUE OF ALL, THE
THREAT OF A NUCLEAR IRAN.
NETANYAHU AND OBAMA MET FOR
FIVE HOURS ON WEDNESDAY.
President Obama: ALL
OPTIONS ARE ON THE TABLE.
WE WILL DO WHAT IS NES
NECESSARY TO PREVENT IRAN
FROM GETTING THE WORLD'S
WORST WEAPONS.
ISRAEL REMAINS FULLY
COMMITTED TO PEACE AND TO
THE SOLUTION OF TWO STATES
FOR TWO PEOPLES.
WE EXTEND OUR HAND IN PEACE
AND FRIENDSHIP TO THE
PALESTINIAN PEOPLE.
Reporter: PRESIDENT
OBAMA HAS BEEN SAYING ALL OF
THE THE RIGHT THINGS.
I HOPE IT IS MORE THAN
JUST TRYING TO CURRIE FAVOR
WITH THE ISRAELI
POPULATION.
I HOPE IT IS A REALIZATION
THAT ISRAEL HAS LEGITIMATE
NEEDS BE, AND THE UNITED
STATES HAS TO BE MORE
COGNIZANT OF THEM WHEN
MAKING THEIR OWN SECURITY
INTERESTS.
Reporter: BUT ISRAEL
SAYS THE GROWING U.S.-ISRAEL
TIES AS A BAD SIGN FOR
THEM.
EARLY THURSDAY, PALESTINIANS
LAUNCHED ROCKETS AT THE GAZA
STRIP JUST BEFORE THE
PRESIDENT'S TRIP TO
RAMALLAH.
THEY SAY OBAMA'S VISIT SENDS
A MESSAGE TO THE REGIMES IN
THE MIDDLE EAST.
ISRAEL IS THE ONLY ANCHOR
WESTERN WORLD HAS.
JORDAN IS DESTABILIZING,
TURKEY IS A MESS.
HE REALIZES THERE IS ONLY
ONE PLACE HE CAN RELY ON FOR
GOOD NEWS AND FORWARD
PROGRESS.
THAT'S ISRAEL.
THAT'S A PRAGMATIC DECISION
BY AN IDEOLOGICAL MAN, AND I
THINK THAT'S A GOOD MOVE.
Reporter: CHRIS
MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,
JERUSALEM.
Lee: PAT, YOUR REACTION
SO FAR TO THE PRESIDENT'S
VISIT?
Pat: WELL, I THINK IT
IS OPTICS, LEE.
I THINK THE PRESIDENT KNOWS
HIS CONSTITUENCY IN THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY COMPRISES
VERY WELL-KNOWN JEWISH
PEOPLE, JEWISH PRODUCERS AND
SO FAR, AND THIS STATEMENT
ABOUT GOING BACK TO THE '67
BORDERS AND THAT SORT OF
THING HAVE SET THEM ON
EDGE.
I THINK HE UNDERSTANDS IF HE
IS GOING TO HAVE ANY
SUCCESS, HE HAS GOT TO GET
PEOPLE, LIKE CHUCK SHUME
SCHUMER, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE
SENATE, ON HIS TEAM.
THIS IS A BIG PIECE OF
OFFENSE MORE FOR HIS OWN
DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
BUT I HOPE SOMETHING GOOD
COMES OUT OF IT.
IT IS AMAZING.
HE AND NETANYAHU WERE AT
EACH OTHER'S THROATS, AND
NOW THEY'RE HAVING A KISSY
FIT OVER JERUSALEM.
IT IS AMAZING HOW MUCH LOVE
AND HEART FLUTTERING IS
GOING ON.
IT WILL REMAIN TO BE SEEN
WHAT HE ACTUALLY DOES.
ELLIOT ABRAMS WAS A
BRILLIANT ANALYST, AND HE
WORKED FOR REAGAN AND BUSH,
IN HIGH POLICY IN THE STATE
DEPARTMENT.
HE SAID, LOOK, PEACE BETWEEN
THE ISRAELIS AND THE
PALESTINIANS IS NOT THE
NUMBER ONE ISSUE AMONG THE
ARAB NATIONS.
THEY'VE GOT OTHER ITEMS THAT
THEY HAVE TO BE CONCERNED
ABOUT.
I THINK RIGHT NOW THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING IS THE CLASH
BETWEEN SUNNIS AND SHIAS,
AND THE SECOND THAT A SHIIA
BUREAUCRACY IS ABOUT TO GET
A NUCLEAR WEAPON.
I THINK THAT IS THE BIG
DEAL, MORE THAN WHETHER OR
NOT THE PALESTINIANS AND THE
ISRAELIS MAKE PEACE.
Lee: OFFICIALS IN
CYPRUS ARE WORKING ON A NEW
BAILOUT STRATEGY.
THAT PLAN COULD INCLUDE A
LOAN FROM RUSSIA IN EXCHANGE
FOR NATURAL GAS LEASES.
RUSSIANS HAVE A MASSIVE
AMOUNT OF MONEY IN CYPRUS.
A VOTE ON THE PLAN COULD
COME AS EARLY AS TODAY.
BUT CYPRUS IS ON BORROWED
TIME.
THE EUROPEAN CENTRAL BANK IS
KEEPING CYPRIOT BANKS ALIVE
BY LETTING THEM USE
EMERGENCY FUNDS.
BUT THE E.C. B. SAYS CYPRUS
HAS TO COME UP WITH A
BAILOUT PLAN SOON OR IT WILL
CUT OFF THOSE FUNDS.
THE BANKS WILL BE CLOSED FOR
THE REST OF THIS WEEK WHILE
OFFICIALS WORK ON A PLAN FOR
THAT LOAN.
FOUR DEMOCRATIC SENATORS ARE
ASKING PRESIDENT OBAMA TO
HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL
PROTECTION AGENCY CUT BACK
ON SOME OF ITS REGULATIONS.
THE RULES SET TOUGH NEW
STANDARDS FOR POWER PLANTS
THAT USE COAL.
THE SENATORS ARE FROM COAL
STATES.
JOE MANSION IS ONE OF THEM.
HE WRITES, "NOT ONLY WOULD
THIS RULE HAVE A DEVASTATING
EFFECT ON OUR COAL
PRODUCTION, BUT IT WILL
JEOPARDIZE THE RELIABILITY
AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR
COAL SUPPLIES."
Pat: LEE AND LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, THE E.P.A., THE
ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION
AGENCY, IS OUT OF CONTROL.
IT HAS BEEN RUN BY
DOCTRINEAR LEFTISTS WHO DO
NOT REGARD THE MANDATES OF
CONGRESS AS ANYTHING
SPECIAL.
THEY MAKE THE RULES
REGARDLESS OF WHAT CONGRESS
HAS GIVEN THEM.
THAT IS A PROBLEM.
THEY'RE OUT OF CONTROL.
SO WHEN ONE LEFT WINGER
RESIGNS, THEY'RE GOING TO
PUT ANOTHER ONE IN HER PLACE
THAT WILL BE JUST AS BAD.
AND THEY HAVE A BATTLE
AGAINST AMERICAN INDUSTRY,
BUT ESPECIALLY FOSSEL
FUELS.
AND THE TRUTH IS WE CAN'T
OPERATE OUR POWER PLANTS
WITHOUT FOSSEL FUELS.
WE HAVE TO HAVE THEM.
THERE IS NO WAY THAT
WINDMILLS AND WHATEVER
ELSE -- BIOMASS AND THESE
OTHER THINGS ARE GOING TO
FILL THE GAP.
IT HAS GOT TO BE COAL AND IT
HAS GOT TO BE OIL.
FORTUNATELY, NATURAL GAS IS
COMING ALONG, BUT IT IS NOT
THERE YET.
AND, SURE, CLEAN COAL IS
IMPORTANT, BUT THEY HAVE A
RULE THAT IF A NEW POWER
PLANT COMES ON LINE, THEY
HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A NEW
SOURCE REVIEW, WHICH MEANS
THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
BUILDING THAT PLANT HAVE GOT
TO GO BACK TO SQUARE ONE,
EVEN IF THEY PUT A SCRUBBER
IN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEY HAVE TO GO BACK AND DO
A NEW SOURCE REVIEW, AND IT
WILL COST MILLIONS AND
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, AND
INVOLVE THE UTILITY AND ALL
KINDS OF RED TAPE.
AND IT IS JUST A NIGHTMARE.
SO SOMETHING HAS GOT TO BE
DONE TO GET THAT AGENCY OUT
OF THE BUSINESS OF
DOMINATING OUR INDUSTRY.
BUT THEY WANT TO ESSENTIALLY
SHUT DOWN -- THAT'S THEIR
GOAL: THEY WANT US TO HAVE A
MORE PASTURAL AND RURAL KIND
OF BUSINESS.
AND IF A COUPLE OF MILLION
PEOPLE DIE FROM STARVATION,
THAT'S TOUGH LUCK.
LEE?
Lee: NO TOURS AT THE
WHITE HOUSE ANY TIME SOON.
REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE
TRIED TO GET THEM STARTED
AGAIN, BUT DEMOCRATS VOTED
DOWN A MEASURE THAT WAS PART
OF AN OVERALL GOVERNMENT
SPENDING PLAN.
MANY CONSERVATIVES HAVE
POINTED TO OTHER AREAS, PAT,
WHERE WASTEFUL SPENDING
COULD BE CUT WITHOUT ANY
REAL HARM TO THE PUBLIC.
Pat: I JUST CAN'T
BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
ARE JUST A BUNCH OF FOOLS.
THIS IS SUCH A GIMMICK, AND
WHAT THESE DEMOCRATS ARE
TRYING TO DO IS THEY SAY WE
WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO MAKE
ANY ALTERATION TO THE
SEQUESTER.
WE WON'T LET YOU SLIDE SOME
MONEY OVER OUT OF ONE POCKET
INTO ANOTHER TO TAKE CARE OF
DEFENSE, TO TAKE CARE OF THE
PARKS SERVICE, TO TAKE CARE
OF IMMIGRATION, TO TAKE CARE
OF NECESSARY HEALTH CARE.
OR IN THE CASE OF THE FEW
THOUSAND DOLLARS, TO LET
TOURISTS COME THROUGH THE
WHITE HOUSE.
THEY WON'T ALLOW IT.
THE DEMOCRATS SAY, NO, WE'RE
NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT.
WHY?
BECAUSE THEY WANT THE PAIN
TO BE INTENSE.
THEY WANT EVERYBODY TO
SUFFER, AND THEN THEY HOPE
TO BE ABLE TO BLAME IT ON
THE REPUBLICANS.
WHY DON'T WE WORK FOR THE
GOOD OF AMERICA?
LEE.
Lee: PAT, SEVERAL
STATES HAVE ISSUED WARNINGS
TO INVESTORS ABOUT A COMPANY
CALLED "PROFITABLE
SUNRISE."
IT PROMISES INVESTORS
RISK-FREE RETURNS OF UP TO
2.7% A DAY ON THEIR MONEY.
CHRISTIANMONEY.COM WARNS
THAT THE COMPANY TARGETS
PEOPLE BY USING GIMMICKS
LIKE BIBLE VERSES AND IMAGES
OF JESUS.
WHAT MANY OF THE SCHEMES
DO IS ACTUALLY PAY THE
CURRENT INVESTORS BY
BRINGING IN NEW INVESTORS.
PII KNOW THIS IS A CLICHE,
BUT IF IT SOUNDS TO BE TRUE,
IT PROBABLY IS.
IF BANKS ARE PAYING 1%, AND
SOMEONE IS TELLING YOU CAN
EARN 2% IN ONE DAY, AND HIS
PERSON DOESN'T HAVE A
PHYSICAL OFFICE LOCATION, IS
NOT PROVIDING YOU WITH A
PERSPECTUS, THESE ARE ALL
OBVIOUS TIPOFFS.
Lee: PARIS AND A
NON-FRAUD INVESTIGATION
GROUP SAY EVEN PASTORS HAVE
FALLEN PREY TO THIS SCHEME.
THEY HAVE COLLECTED MORE
THAN $100 MILLION FROM
INVESTORS.
FOR MORE ON THIS, YOU CAN GO
TO OUR WEBSITE AT
CBNNEWS.COM.
PAT?
Pat: THANKS, LEE.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, BE
AWARE OF THESE SCAMSTERS.
ESPECIALLY THOSE IN
RELIGIOUS GARB QUOTING THE
BIBLE.
THEY'RE ALL OVER THE PLACE.
THERE WAS AN OUTFIT KNOWN AS
GREATER DIAMOND THAT HAS
BEEN INVESTIGATED.
AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO
THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER,
AND THE GOVERNMENT FINALLY
STEPS IN AGAINST SOME OF
THESE ORGANIZATIONS, BUT
THIS SUNRIS SUNRISE
THING -- THEY JUST CAN'T
CHANGE THE LAWS OF
ECONOMICS.
THEY CAN'T DO IT.
I HAD A FRIEND OF MINE WHO
TOLD ME, LISTEN, THEY'VE GOT
THIS SYSTEM WHERE THEY'RE
ABLE TO GET THE INFORMATION
IN THEIR HUGE COMPUTERS
ABOUT A HALF A SECOND BEFORE
THE WEST COAST AND,
THEREFORE, THEY CAN TRADE
QUICKLY ON LEVERAGE OR
ARBITRAGE OR WHATEVER TERM
YOU WANT TO GIVE IT.
AND THEY'RE MAKING ALL OF
THIS MONEY.
AND YOU REALLY NEED TOVITY
TO INVEST IN THIS.
IT IS SO GOOD.
I DIDN'T HAVE TIME.
I GUESS BEING LAZY IS A GOOD
THING.
I DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO
INVESTIGATE IT, AND THERE
WASN'T ANYWAY I WAS GOING TO
DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND LO AND BEHOLD, SOME VERY
FINE PEOPLE GOT HOOKED ON
THAT DEAL.
IT WAS ALL FRAUD.
LISTEN, IT JUST DOESN'T
HAPPEN.
THERE WAS -- LONG-TERM
CAPITAL WAS A BIG ONE.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE
THESE GENIUSES THAT CAME OUT
OF HARVARD AND M.I.T., AND
THEY WERE ABLE TO HAVE THESE
GIANT COMPUTERS TO DO ALL
THESE THINGS.
IT BLEW UP.
IT ALWAYS DOES, TERRY.
Terry: IF IT IS TOO
GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT IS TOO
GOOD TO BE TRUE.
Pat: LISTEN TO IT.
IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T
MAKE MONEY IF YOU PAY
ATTENTION.
THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO
MAKE MONEY, BUT NOT THIS
CRAZY STUFF.
IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
Terry: COMING UP LATER,
GET A TASTE OF HEALTHY
SOUTHERN COOKING, COURTESY
OF PAULA DEAN'S GOVERNMENT.
FIRST, YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHY
THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO PUT
THIS SMALL OYSTER FARM OUT
OF BUSINESS, AND THEY'RE
LYING ABOUT IT.
YOU'LL SEE WHY AND HOW THIS
FARM IS FIGHTING BACK.
THAT'S NEXT.
Pat: WE LIVE IN AN AREA
THAT IS NOTED FOR ITS
SEAFOOD.
THESE TASTY THINGS KNOWN AS
OYSTERS, LYNNE HAVEN
OYSTERS, AND PEOPLE LIKE
OYSTER STEW AND SCALLOPED
OYSTERS AND OYSTERS ON A
HALF SHELL.
AND ON AND ON.
BUT IN CALIFORNIA, THEY ALSO
HAVE OYSTERS.
AND ONE COMPANY, AS I
UNDERSTAND, IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR ABOUT 40% OF ALL OF THE
OYSTERS CONSUMED IN THE
GREAT STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
HOWEVER, THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT SAYS WE WANT TO
USE THIS FOR A PARK, A
NATIONAL PARK.
AND THEREFORE WE'RE GOING TO
SHUT THIS BUSINESS DOWN.
40% OF CALIFORNIA'S
OYSTERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY IN
CALIFORNIA IS MAKING A FUSS
ABOUT IT.
THEY'RE USED TO LIBERALS
TAKING OVER, AND MAYBE THEY
WON'T STAND UP.
BUT IF THEIR OYSTERS GET
TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM, WOW!
LET'S WATCH.
Reporter: NORTH OF SAN
FRANCISCO, INSIDE POINT
RAY'S NATIONAL SEAPORT SITS
DRAKE ESTARO.
A HOME FOR DRAKE'S BAY
OYSTER FARM FOR MANY YEARS.
MANY SEE IT AS GREEN
SUSTAINABLE AGRICULTURE.
THE ADVOCATES SAY THAT
CONGRESS HAS WANTED TO MAKE
IT A FULL WILDERNESS FOR 40
YEARS.
ALL THAT STOOD IN THE WAY IS
THIS COMMERCIAL OYSTER
BUSINESS.
NOW ITS LEASE HAS RUN OUT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
CAN'T TAKE PLACE IN THE
WILDERNESS IS A COMMERCIAL
ENTERPRISE.
WE DON'T HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR A MARINE
WILDERNESS IN THE U.S.
Reporter: AMY MYERS
STARTED TO PUSH IN CONGRESS
BACK IN THE 1970s.
IT IS THE IDEA OF GOING
SOME PLACE WHERE THE HAND OF
MAN IS NOT FELT.
Reporter: CBS NEWS
VISITED THE BAY.
KEVIN WAS THERE WORRYING IF
HIS 30 WORKERS' JOBS WOULD
ALSO SOON DISAPPEAR.
A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE WHO
HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 25, 30
YEARS, ARE GOING TO HAVE TO
START OVER.
Reporter: HE BOUGHT THE
FARM IN 2004, BELIEVING THAT
THE LEASE WOULD BE RENEWED
IN 2012.
ONLY TO BE TOLD LATER BY THE
GOVERNMENT --
OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE FOT
GOING TO RENEW IN 2012.
Reporter: AND THE
NATIONAL SERVICE SAID IT HAD
RESEARCH THAT DRAKE'S BAY
WAS DOING DAMAGE.
NEIL BISE CALLS THAT
INACCURATE.
ARE WE DOING THIS TO THE
ENVIRONMENT?
I ACTUALLY BELIEVED HIM.
Reporter: THE ONLY
PROBLEM WITH
THIS RESEARCH,
WELL, IT JUST WASN'T TRUE.
Reporter: NATIONAL
ACADEMY OF SCIENCES MEMBER,
CORY GOODMAN, EXPRESSED
SHOCK AT WHAT HE FOUND.
THE PUBLIC PARKS SERVICE
SAYS THIS, BUT WHEN YOU
LOOKED AT THE DATA IT WOULD
BE COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE.
IN SOME CASES, THEY WERE
SIMPLY MAKING THINGS UP.
OUR GOVERNMENT SHOULD
BEHAVE BETTER THAN THIS.
Reporter: THAT ABUSE OF
SCIENCE WAS ONE OF THE MAIN
REASONS THIS LAWYER JUMPED
TO THE DEFENSE.
THERE WOULD BE CLAIMS
MADE ABOUT HARM TO SEALS,
HARM FROM BOAT NOISE.
Reporter: AND NONE OF
IT WAS PROVED BY ACTUAL
RESEARCH.
YOU CAN'T JUST MAKE UP
CLAIMS.
THE PARK SERVICE HAS BEEN
LIKE HAVING BLINDERS.
THEY HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTEING
DETERMINED WE'RE GOING TO
GET RID OF THIS OYSTER
FARM.
Reporter: WELL, IT SAYS
THE OYSTER FARM DOES DO BAD
THINGS.
THEY'RE TAKING THEIR
MOTOR BOATS INTO SENSITIVE
AREAS, CONDUCTING ILLEGAL
DEVELOPMENT.
Reporter: AND OTHERS
SAY THE OYSTER FARM DOES
MUCH MORE GOOD THAN HARM.
FRENS, IT IS SURROUNDED BY
HISTORICAL CATTLE FARM.
LONI AND MANY EXPERTS SAY
OYSTERS CAN ACTUALLY CONSUME
THE WASTE.
CUSTOMER CINDY FRENCH
WONDERS WHY THE OYSTERS HAVE
TO GO WHILE THE COWS STAY.
THEY'RE DOING A LOT MORE
DAMAGE THAN THE OYSTERS
ARE.
Reporter: OYSTER
FANATICS SHOWED UP ALL OVER
THIS DAY, EXPECTING TO ENJOY
THEIR LAST SERVING OF WHAT
SOME SAY ARE THE TASTIEST
OYSTERS IN THE WORLD.
FRENCH DROVE TWO HOURS.
THIS IS ALL THERE IS.
Reporter: A FEDERAL
APPEALS COURT HAD JUST
DELAYED THE CLOSURE UNTIL
MAY.
SO INSTEAD A BAD GOOD-BYE,
THEY GOT TO GRADUATE LONI
AND HIS SECOND REPRIEVE, AND
IT SEEMS THAT THE GOVERNMENT
SEEMS SET ON NOTHING LESS
THAN THE 80-YEAR-OLD FARM'S
DESTRUCTION.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
TRYING TO IMPOSE AN
ARTIFICIAL WILLEDNESS
WILDERNESS IN THE MIDDLE OF
THIS.
WHEN THERE IS AN EFFORT
BY PRIVATE INDUSTRY TO TAKE
THAT AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC,
FROM ALL OF THE TAXPAYERS,
THAT'S SIMPLY A BREAK OF A
PROMISE.
AND THAT CAN HAPPEN
ELSEWHERE.
PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS
PRESSING THE EDGES OF THIS.
Reporter: LONI SAYS HE
HAS BORROWED SO MUCH MONEY
TO IMPROVE THE PLACE, IF HE
LOSES IT, IT WILL BANKRUPT
HIS FAMILY AND OTHERS.
THERE IS A CHANCE THAT MY
PARENTS WILL LOSE THEIR HOME
AND MY BROTHER WILL LOSE HIS
HOME.
Reporter: NOT TO
MENTION WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO
HIS 30 WORKERS, MANY LIVING
IN NEARBY HOMES.
Reporter: THIS IS A
BEAUTIFUL AREA, AND MANY
WANT TO PRESERVE IT, BUT FOR
THAT TO BE TRUE, MUST ALL
THESE PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOBS
AND THIS BE CLEARED OUT OF
THE AREA?
Pat: WOW!
WHEN DONNA ODDELLE WAS
SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR,
HE HAD A PRODUCTIVE MEETING
WITH ME.
AND HE SAYS, YOU HAVE TO
UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO WORSHIP THE
WILDERNESS.
THEY WORSHIP NATURE.
AND THEY THINK THAT ANY
ASSAULT TO THE WILDERNESS IS
LIKE AN ASSAULT ON GOD.
AND THESE ARE RELIGIOUS
FANATICS OF THE HIGHEST
ORDER.
HE DIDN'T SAY THAT, BUT I'M
SAYING THAT.
AND FANATACISM IS
EXTRAORDINARY.
I'LL NEVER FORGET THE TIME I
WAS ON A RANCH IN -- WHERE
IN THE WORLD WAS IT --
WYOMING, I THINK.
AND WE WENT OUT ON A TRAIL
RIDE, AND WE CAME TO A
SIGN.
WE WERE GOING THROUGH SCRUB
PINE, AND A BUNCH OF SHALE
ROCK, AND IT WAS KIND OF
GROSS LOOKING, AND SUDDENLY
WE CAME TO A SIGN THAT SAID
YOU ARE NEW ENTERING THE
WILDERNESS.
I EXPECTED HERE IS SOMETHING
UNUSUAL.
AND WHAT WAS IT?
SCRUB PINE AND MORE SHALE
ROCK.
IT DIDN'T LOOK ONE BIT
DIFFERENT FROM THE REST OF
IT.
Terry: AS YOU LOOK AT
THE PICTURES THAT WERE TAKEN
FROM THAT STORY, IT LOOKS
LIKE BEAUTIFUL WILDERNESS
NOW.
IT IS PRETTY PRISTINE.
IT IS NOT RUINED BY THIS --
Pat: AND THAT'S ONE OF
THE REASONS YOU SHOULDN'T
EAT THE THINGS, MAYBE, AND
THEY'RE CONSIDERING THE
WASTE OF THE CATTLE AND
PIGS.
IT CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF
SPAWNING OF FLORA YOU DON'T
WANT.
NEVERTHELESS, FOLKS, WE
CAN'T BE IN THE THRAWL TO
ENVIRONMENTAL CRAZIES.
WE'VE GOT TOO MANY OF THEM.
AND THEY'RE SO PERSUASIVE
AND SO ARTICULATE AND SO
BOCIFEROUS.
YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THAT IN
CALIFORNIA, TRIPLE.
Terry: CHECK YOUR
FACTS.
WELL, IF YOU'RE THE TYPE WHO
DROOLS OVER PAULA DEAN'S
SOUTHERN COOKING, BUT YOU'RE
WORRIED HER FOOD WILL CLOG
YOUR ARTERIES, STAY TUNED
FOR THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS.
HER SON, BOBBY, HAS TRIMMED
THE FAT AND CUT THE CALORIES
BUT KEPT THE TASTE.
AND HE'S GOING TO SHOW US
HOW WE CAN DO IT, TOO.
Terry: LIKE MANY FINE
GEORGIANS, BOBBY DEAN IS
FOND OF THAT OLD SAYING,
"EAT LIKE A CHAMP."
AND HE DID.
BUT EVEN CHAMPS NEED TO KNOW
WHEN TO DIAL IT BACK A BIT,
SO BOBBY WENT TO HIS OWN
KITCHEN AND RESOLVED TO FIND
A WAY TO MAKE THIS MOTHER'S
FOOD GOOD FOR YOU.
Reporter: BOBBY DEAN IS
THE SON OF PAULA DEAN.
HE WORKED FOR HIS MOM WHEN
HE WAS A TEENAGER,
DELIVERING LUNCHES.
EVENTUALLY, HE HELPED BUILD
THE BRANDS THAT MADE HER A
HOUSEHOLD NAME.
BOBBY AND HIS BROTHER,
JAMIE, WERE RAISED ON THEIR
MOTHER'S SOUTHERN COOKING.
BUT THEY CAN'T EAT HER RICH
FOOD EVERY DAY.
AS A YOUNG MAN, BOBBY FOUND
HIMSELF 25 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT
AND UNWILLING TO GIVE UP ANY
OF HIS FAVORITE FOODS.
IN HIS COOKBOOK, HE SHARES
THE WAY HE LEARNED TO SLIM
DOWN HIS MOM'S RECIPES
WITHOUT LOSING ONE OUNCE OF
FLAVOR.
Terry: HE IS HERE WITH
US NOW.
BOBBY, GREAT TO HAVE YOU
BACK WITH US.
GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.
Terry: I LOVE THE TITLE
"FROM MAMA'S TABLE TO
MINE."
AND SOME OF THE SUBSTITUTES
FOR 350 CALORIES OR YES.
WHAT ARE SOME OF THE CHOICES
YOU CAN CAN MAKE?
IT IS EASY TO GO WITH A
LOW SODIUM OR LOW IN SUGAR.
IT IS PRETTY CLEAR.
BUT I DID SOME DIGGING
AROUND.
MY MOTHER -- WHEN I WAS A
YOUNG PERSON, I FEEL SO
FORTUNATE SHE TAUGHT ME HOW
TO COOK AND CLEAN UP AFTER
MYSELF.
SHE SAID, BOBBY, WHENEVER
YOU DO SOMETHING, GO EXACTLY
BY THE RECIPE THE FIRST
TIME.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, DO
WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO
AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN.
SO IT WAS A NATURAL
CONDITION FOR ME TO DO
THIS.
IT WAS A LABOR OF LOVE.
I ENJOYED DOING IT AND I
LEARNED ALL KINDS OF
THINGS.
AND I'VE GOT SOMETHING I
WANT TO SHOW YOU TODAY.
THIS IS A VERY SOUTHERN
DISH.
THIS IS COUNTRY-FRIED STEAK
AND GRAVY.
PROBABLY EVERYBODY'S MAMA
DID IT AT HOME.
MINE CERTAINLY DID.
THIS IS HOT.
WE'LL START WITH THE GRAVY.
AND I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO
HELP ME SO WE DON'T BURN
IT.
THAT IS A LOW SODIUM BEEF
BROTH.
WE HAVE A FAT-FREE HALF AND
HALF, WHICH ALMOST DIDN'T
SOUND RIGHT, BUT IT'S TRUE.
WE'LL GET THAT GOING, AND
WE'LL START AND MAKE SURE IT
DOESN'T BURN IN ANY WAY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A
LITTLE FLURRY, WHICH I'VE
HAD HAD PEOPLE TELL ME
THEY'VE NEVER HEARD THAT
WORD.
Terry: I HAVE NOT.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A OUR
THICKENING AGENT.
AND THIS IS CALLED A FLURRY,
WHEN YOU DO IT.
WE'LL ADD THOSE TWO THINGS
TOGETHER, AND WE'LL STIR IT
UNTIL THE CORNSTARCH SORT OF
DISSOLVES.
I'VE CERTAINLY NOT TURNED MY
BACK ON MY HERITAGE OR MY
MOTHER'S FOODS OR COMFORT
FOODS.
I THINK I'VE LEARNED BALANCE
AND MODERATION.
I'VE SORT OF TAKEN SUNDAY
FOOD AND TURNED IT INTO
MONDAY FOOD, IS WHAT I'M
DOING.
THE FLURRY GOES IN AND THAT
WILL THICKEN UP OUR GRAVY.
THIS IS A REALLY SIMPLE,
SIMPLE DISH YOU CAN CAN DO
AT HOME.
THE CRITERIA I WANTED THESE
RECIPES TO FIT IN FOR THIS
BOOK, OBVIOUSLY 350 CALORIES
OR LESS.
AND I WANTED THEM TO BE
SIMPLE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO MUDDY THE
WATERS BY MAKING THE RECIPES
MORE DIFFICULT.
AND I'VE GOT BEAUTIFUL
COOKBOOKS AT HOME THAT ARE
BASICALLY PAPER WEIGHTS, AND
I WANTED THEM TO BE
AFFORDABLE.
ESPECIALLY IN THIS DAY AND
AGE WHERE PEOPLE ARE
COUNTING THEIR PENNIES.
YOU'LL START OUT.
MAKE SURE IT DON'T BURN.
I'LL TURN IT DOWN TO MAKE
DOUBLE SURE IT DOESN'T
BURN.
AND WE'LL GET TO THE OTHER
PART OF THE RECIPE, WHICH IS
THE CUBE STEAK.
THIS IS CUBE STEAK.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE CUBE STEAK
AT HOME, OR IF FOR SOME
REASON YOU CAN'T GET YOUR
HANDS ON IT, YOU CAN USE A
TOP OR BOTTOM ROUND AND
POUND IT OUT WITH YOUR OWN
MEAT MALLET.
THIS IS HOUSE SEASONING --
THAT'S WHAT WE CALL
IT.
MY MAMA AND M
Y BROTHER
AND I
ALL KEEP THIS ON OUR KITCHEN
COUNTERS.
IT IS SALT, PEPPER, AND
GARLIC POWDER.
IT IS A GREAT SEASONING FOR
FISH, FOWL, ANYTHING YOU
WANT TO DO.
YOU'VE GOT AN EGG MIXTURE,
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE 1%
MILK AND EGG AND A FEW
DASHES OF HOT SAUCE.
STANDARD STUFF.
OVER HERE WE HAVE
UNSWEETENED CORNFLAKES.
THIS IS CLEVER AS WELL.
YOU CAN GO TO YOUR BREAKFAST
AISLE AND FIND
UNSWEETENED -- THAT'S THE
IMPORTANT PART, UNSWEETENED
CONSTITUENT AND POUND THEM
OUT.
Terry: I THOUGHT IT WAS
CORN MEAL.
IT LOOKS LIKE IT.
WE'LL RUN OUR FLECK STEAKS
THROUGH THE FLOUR, AND INTO
THE EGG WHITES, AND I THINK
YOU SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING
HERE.
THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THIS AND MY MAMA'S, AND LOTS
OF FOLK'S MAMA'S RECIPES IS
WE'RE GOING TO BAKE IT
INSTEAD OF FRY IT.
Terry: MAKING SURE IT
IS COVERED.
YES, MA'AM.
AND WE'LL POP THEM INTO THE
OVEN, AND I THINK THROUGH
THE MAGIC OF TELEVISION,
WE'LL HAVE ONE WE CAN TAKE A
LOOK AT.
THIS IS REALLY SIMPLE.
NOTHING IS EXPENSIVE.
WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING HERE
THAT IS A MAJOR VILLAIN IN A
RECIPE.
THIS IS A VERY NATURALLY LOW
IN FAT RECIPE SO FAR.
BANG, BANG, I'M GOING TO POP
THESE INTO THE OVEN.
IF YOU'LL WATCH OUR GRAVY.
Terry: I'M STILL
STIRRING.
THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.
I'LL POP THESE INTO THE
OVEN, AND I'LL COME BACK
WITH SOMETHING FOR YOU.
IF YOU NEED TO YOU, CAN TURN
THAT OFF, IF IT'S READY.
Terry: HOW THICK DO YOU
WANT IT?
WELL, IT WAS LOOKING
PRETTY CLOSE WHEN I PEEKED
OVER YOUR SHOULDER.
THAT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL TO ME.
WE CAN TURN IT OFF.
I THINK WE CAN TURN IT OFF.
NOW, LOOK AT THAT.
THAT'S REALLY, REALLY
SIMPLE, AND THAT'S HOT.
SO PLEASE BE CAREFUL.
DON'T TOUCH IT.
WE CAN MAKE A LITTLE BEAUTY
HERE AS WE CALL IT IN THE
RESTAURANT BUSINESS.
HOW ABOUT THAT?
A COUPLE OF PIECES OF
COUNTRY-FRIED STEAK.
WE'VE GOT A LADLE, AND WHY
DON'T YOU LADLE SOME OF THE
PEPPER GRAVY OVER IT.
LET'S SEE IF IT IS PRETTY
ENOUGH TO TAKE A PICTURE
OF.
OOH, OAK A LOOK AT THAT
THERE.
THAT'S A DISH --
Terry: CAN I TASTE IT?
RIGHT AFTER MY OWN
HEART.
THAT IS SOMETHING YOU CAN
FEEL GOOD ABOUT FEEDING YOUR
FAMILY ON A REGULAR BASIS.
IT IS NOT FRIED.
IT IS HEART-HEALTHY.
AND IT IS A SIMPLE AND
AFFORDABLE DISH.
WERE YOU ABOUT TO TELL ME
SOMETHING?
Terry: I'M LOOKING AT
ALL OF THIS, AND WE'RE
RUNNING SHORT ON TIME, BUT I
WANT YOU TO TELL US QUICKLY
WHAT YOU'VE GOT IN THERE?
CRABCAKES, AND WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT MODERATION.
THESE ARE MINI CRABCAKES,
THE PROBLEM IS YOU CAN EAT
MANY MORE OF THEM.
AND A CASSEROLE.
MACARONI AND CHEESE.
Terry: THIS IS
SOUTHERN.
MACARONI AND CHEESE AND RED
VELVET CASE.
AND LOOK AT HOW BEAUTIFUL.
THIS IS 350 CALORIES?
PER SERVING.
THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE TO
REMEMBER.
AND I THINK PEOPLE MAY HAVE
LOST SIGHT OF WHAT A SERVING
SIZE IS.
Terry: THERE IS SO MUCH
IN THERE.
I LOVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE
WHAT I'M COOKING, AND THE
PICTURES IN HERE, FABULOUS.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET
GREAT MEAL IDEAS, GET
BOBBY'S BOOK, CALLED "FROM
MAMA'S TABLE TO MINE."
WE KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO
ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.
I HAVE ALREADY EARMARKED
MINE.
THANK YOU.
Terry: DON SAYS, "GOD
CALLS SOME FOOD UNCLEAN.
SHOULD WE EAT IT ANYWAY?"
WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION
AND MORE AND IT'S COMING UP
Reporter: WELCOME TO
WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN NEWS
BREAK.
THE SOUTHERN BAPTIST
CONVENTION IS EXPANDING
NORTH.
SINCE 2002, SOUTHERN
BAPTISTS HAVE SPENT MORE
THAN $5 MILLION PLANTING
CHURCHES AROUND THE REGION.
ANOTHER $800,000 HAS BEEN
COMMITTED FOR THIS YEAR.
THE NEW ENGLAND REGION HAS
BEEN SKEPTICAL OF THE
SOUTH.
STILL OVER THE LAST 11
YEARS, MORE THAN 100 NEW
CHURCHES HAVE BEEN PLANTED.
SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IS LIKELY
TO BECOME LEGAL SOON IN NEW
ZEALAND.
LAWMAKERS RECENTLY PASSED A
BILL THAT ALLOWS GAY
MARRIAGE IN THE SECOND OF
THREE VOTES THAT HAS TO BE
TAKEN BEFORE A BILL BECOMES
LAW.
THE THIRD VOTE IS LIKELY TO
BE LITTLE MORE THAN A
FORMALITY.
WELL, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE
LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY
GOING TO OUR WEBSITE,
CBNNEWS.COM.
PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Terry: WE WANT TO TAKE
SOME TIME TO ANSWER SOME OF
THE E-MAIL QUESTIONS THAT
YOU'VE SENT IN.
THE FIRST ONE IS FROM DON
WHO SAYS, "GOD CALLS SOME
FOOD UNCLEAN.
SHOULD WE EAT IT ANYWAY?"
Pat: IF YOU REMEMBER
WHEN PETER HAD A REVELATION
BEFORE HE WENT TO THE HOUSE
OF CORNELIUS.
THE LORD SAID, DON'T CALL
WHAT I'VE CLEANSED UNCLEAN.
SO I THINK THE LORD HIMSELF
PRONOUNCED ALL FOODS CLEAN.
SO ALL OF THOSE DIETARY
THINGS ARE IN THE OLD
TESTAMENT.
BUT THERE ARE SOME PRACTICAL
SOLUTIONS.
PORK -- THE PIG DOESN'T HAVE
THE SECOND STOMACH THAT A
COW HAS, AND THE DANGER OF
TRICHINOSIS IS VERY STRONG
WITH PIGS OUT IN THE WILD.
FOWLS, THEY FEED ON GARBAGE,
AND THAT WHICH DOESN'T HAVE
FINS AND SCALE.
ALL OF THIS SEE FOOD, PEOPLE
CAN GET DEATHLY ILL FROM
EATING CRAB MEAT BECAUSE
THEY HAVE INGESTED SO MUCH
BAD STUFF.
AND RAW FISH, PEOPLE ARE
GETTING TERRIBLY SICK FROM
EATING CERTAIN THANK THINGS
THEY SHOULDN'T EAT.
SO IT IS A PRACTICAL
SUGGESTION.
Terry: SARAH SAYS, "I
UNDERSTAND FROM THE WORD
THAT WHEN WE GO TO HEAVEN,
WE WILL RECEIVE A GLORIFIED
NEW BODY.
WHEN JESUS APPEARED TO
THOMAS, HE STILL HAD HIS
SCARRED HANDS.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?"
Pat: HE TOLD MARY I
HAVEN'T YET DESCENDED TO MY
FATHER.
AS YOU CONTEMPLATE THAT, I
BELIEVE THAT HE COULD APPEAR
ANY WAY HE WANTED TO.
A SPIRIT CAN TRANSFORM
ITSELF INTO VARIOUS TYPES OF
THINGS BECAUSE A SPIRIT IS A
TYPE OF ENERGY.
BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO
ALL OF THIS --
Terry: I THINK OF THAT
ALMOST AS A -- TROPHY IS THE
WRONG WORD, BUT THE
SUFFERING AND THE REDEMPTIVE
WORK THAT WAS DONE, NOT
SOMETHING THAT WAS A WOUND
AFTER THE FACT.
Pat: SOMEBODY SAYS WE
HAVE A WOUNDED SAVIOR, BUT
HE HADN'T ASCENDED TO HEAVEN
YET.
Terry: LIDIA SAYS, "I'M
CONSTANTLY BEING ATTACKED
AND BEING ACCUSED OF BEING A
FAKE CHRISTIAN WHEN I'M
NOT IN AGREEMENT WITH A
CERTAIN BEHAVIOR, I'M TOLD,
WOW, WHAT CHRISTIAN YOU
ARE.
HOW CAN I DEFEND MYSELF?"
Pat: THIS NONSENSE OF
WHAT A CHRISTIAN SHOULD BE
OR NOT.
IT IS AMAZING HOW
NON-CHRISTIANS SET THE BAR
OF WHAT CHRISTIANS ARE
SUPPOSED TO DO.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MEEK
AND MILD AND TAKE ALL OF THE
ABUSE THAT IS HEAPED UPON
YOU.
AND IF YOU ANSWER BACK, IT'S
NOT CHRISTIAN.
LET ME TELL YOU THIS THING,
THOUGH, DON'T FIGHT WITH
THEM.
DON'T TRY TO DEFEND
YOURSELF.
IT ISN'T WORTH IT.
LET THE LORD DEFEND YOU.
IF ALL YOU DO IS SAY, I LOVE
YOU.
ONE DAY YOU WILL SEE IT.
IN THE MEANTIME, GOD BLESS
YOU.
Terry: "MY HUSBAND AND
I ARE NEW CHRISTIANS.
WE HAVE MANY NON-CHRISTIANS
AND FAMILY.
JAMES 4: 4 SAYS, DO YOU NOT
KNOW THAT FRIENDSHIP IS AN
ENEMY WITH THE WORLD.
DOES THIS MEAN WE SHOULD CUT
TIES WITH ALL FRIENDS AND
FAMILY WHO ARE NOT
CHRISTIANS?"
Pat: JUST THE
OPPOSITE.
PAUL SAID IF I DIDN'T
ASSOCIATE WITH LIARS AND
IMMORAL PEOPLE, I WOULD HAVE
TO GO OUT OF THE WORLD.
WHAT JAMES IS TALKING ABOUT
IS EMBRACING THE PHILOSOPHY
OF THE WORLD AND MAKING IT
YOUR OWN.
THE LIF LIFESTYLE, THE WAY
OF THINKING, THE
PHILOSOPHICAL
RESUPPOSTIONS.
FRIENDSHIP WITH THE WORLD --
I HAVE EMBRACED THEIR WAY OF
LOOKING AT THINGS -- THEN
YOU'RE AN ENEMY OF GOD.
JESUS WENT OUT AND HE WAS
CRITICIZED FOR SITTING DOWN
AND EATING WITH HARLETS AND
WINE BIBBERS AND SINNERS --
Terry: AND TAX
COLLECTORS.
Pat: TAX COLLECTORS.
THAT'S RIGHT.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REACH
THEM IF YOU DON'T GO OUT AND
TALK TO PEOPLE.
WELL, UP NEXT, WE'LL MEET A
PASTOR, ONE WHO USED TO BE
HOMELESS AND DESTITUDE, AND
HE NOW PREACHES IN FRONT OF
NEARLY A MILLION BELIEVERS.
Pat: INDIA, A SUB
CONTINENT, IT IS HOME TO
MORE ONE BILLION PEOPLE.
ONLY 2% ARE SUPPOSED TO BE
CHRISTIAN.
THAT IS STARTING TO CHANGE.
AS REVIVAL IS BREAKING OUT
ACROSS THAT NATION.
AND ONE PASTOR IS AT THE
CENTER OF IT ALL.
Reporter: PASTOR
R.ABRAHAM WALKED AWAY FROM
HIS CAREER AS A CHEMIST IN
INDIA NEARLY 40 YEARS AGO TO
ANSWER GOD'S CALL TO THE
MINISTRY.
MONTHS LATER, THE
21-YEAR-OLD WAS BROKE,
HOMELESS, AND HUNGRY.
I THOUGHT ANYONE WHO HAS
GOT ANY COMMON SENSE SHOULD
NEVER BECOME A PASTOR.
Reporter: AFTER TWO
YEARS OF PRAYER AND
PATIENCE, PASTOR ABRAHAM
JOINED FORCES WITH OTHER
MINISTER TO START NEW INDIA
CHURCH OF GOD.
THE ORGANIZATION REACHES
ACROSS THAT COUNTRY THROUGH
MORE THAN 3,000 CHURCHES, 16
BIBLE COLLEGES, 14
ORPHANAGES, AND SIX
SCHOOLS.
Pat: WOULD YOU PLEASE
WELCOME PASTOR ABRAHAM.
SO GLAD TO HAVE YOU WITH
US.
THANK YOU.
Pat: WELCOME.
[APPLAUSE]
Pat: GOD SPOKE TO YOU
WHEN YOU WERE A YOUNG MAN.
WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?
I WAS JUST 21 YEARS OLD.
I WAS WORKING FOR A
PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY.
AND WHILE I WAS PRAYING ONE
DAY, THE LORD SPOKE TO ME.
IT WAS ALMOST LIKE AN
AUDIBLE VOICE.
HE SAID, THIS IS NOT YOUR
JOB.
I WANT TO DESIGN YOUR JOB.
GO AND PREACH THE GOSPEL.
THE NATION OF INDIA NEEDS
YOU.
Pat: DID YOU KNOW WHAT
THAT MEANT?
NO.
NO IDEA.
I CRIED AND I TRIED MY LEVEL
BEST TO GET OUT OF IT.
BECAUSE I KNEW THAT THE
PASTORS AND THE PEOPLE
WORKING THE MINISTRY WERE SO
MISERABLEL MISERABLY POOR,
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO BE ONE
OF THEM.
Pat: WE LOVE THE INDIAN
PEOPLE.
BUT INDIA WAS IN THE GRIP OF
MUSLIMS AND --
300 MILLION GODS.
Pat: 300 MILLION GODS.
HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH IT?
WHAT IS HAPPENING TO INDIA
NOW?
INDIA IS ALWAYS IN THE
GRIP OF IDOL WORSHIP.
AND WE ARE HAVING SO MUCH
TROUBLE BECAUSE OF THE
DEMONIC ACTIVITIES.
WHEREVER YOU GO, YOU'RE
SEEING DEMONIC
DEMONSTRATION.
Pat: WHAT DO YOU SEE,
FOR EXAMPLE?
LIKE PEOPLE -- DEMONS
MANIFESTING FROM THE
PEOPLE.
Pat: YEAH?
YOU WILL KNOW.
Pat: THEY SCREAM AND
JERK --
OH, YEAH.
AND THEY TEAR THEIR CLOTHES
AND THEY COME AFTER YOU.
IF YOU'RE NOT STANDING IN
GOD'S ANOINTING, YOU BETTER
WATCH OUT OR IT WILL HAPPEN
LIKE IN THE BIBLE, THEY'RE
RUNNING WITH NO CLOTHES ON.
THAT COULD HAPPEN IF YOU'RE
NOT COVERED WITH THE BLOOD.
Pat: SOMEHOW THE PEOPLE
WANT GOD.
THEY'RE A VERY RELIGIOUS
PEOPLE.
YOU HAVE AN INCREDIBLE
MINISTRY?
THEY DON'T KNOW.
THEY DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER.
ALL THESE GODS OF ANY SHAPE
AND FORM, THAT'S ALL THEY
KNOW.
BUT THEY'RE NOT GETTING
ANYWHERE.
WE'RE BRINGING THE MESSAGE
OF HOPE, AND HE LOVES YOU.
AND THEY CANNOT TAKE IT.
THEY THINK THE GODS ARE
THERE TO BEAT THEM UP AND
KEEP THEM POOR.
SO WHEN YOU BRING A MESSAGE
OF HOPE, THEY RESPOND.
Pat: A TERRIBLE FEAR
ISN'T IT, FEAR OF DEATH,
FEAR OF DEMONS, FEAR OF
EVERYTHING.
THAT IS PERVASIVE.
AND ALSO THE CURRENT
SYSTEM, WHICH IS SO MUCH
CONNECTED WITH THE IDOL
WORSHIP, WHICH IS DESTROYING
PEOPLE.
IF YOU'RE FROM A LOW CAST,
WHAT YOU CALL THE
UNTOUCHABLE, YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT ALMOST MORE THAN
100 MILLION PEOPLE.
Pat: WERE YOU IN A
CAST?
DID YOU HAVE ONE?
I'M FROM SOUTH INDIA.
SO WE ARE FROM THE HIGHEST
CLASS.
THE CHRISTIANS -- THEY CLAIM
TO BE FROM THE BROMAN.
Pat: YOU DIDN'T HAVE
THE UNTOUCHABLES.
GOD CALLS YOU, AND YOU GIVE
UP YOUR WORK IN A FARM
PHARMACEUTICAL, AND THEN YOU
START STARVING?
YES, BECAUSE, AS I SAID,
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY IDEA.
I RESIGNED MY JOB, PICKED UP
A SHOULDER BAG, AND MY
BIBLE, AND I WAS ON THE
ROAD.
AFTER SOME WEEKS, I SPENT
ALL OF MY MONEY.
AND HERE I WAS, I WAS NOT A
PREACHER, AND SO NOBODY
INVITED ME TO PREACH.
I DIDN'T KNOW ANYBODY, AND I
WAS IN A STRANGE PLACE.
SUDDENLY I WAS GOING WITHOUT
FOOD AND NO PLACE TO STAY.
I USED TO WORK ABOUT 15,
20 MILES EVERY DAY.
Pat: DID YOU THINK GOD
HAD FORSAKEN YOU?
I THOUGHT GOD DID A
MISTAKE.
I DIDN'T THINK HE FORSAKED
ME.
WE HAVE THESE BIBLICAL
NAMES, AND THOUSANDS OF
ABRAHAMS, JACOBS, AND
JOHNS.
I THOUGHT HE MUST HAVE
CALLED ME THINKING I WAS
SOME OTHER ABRAHAM.
Pat: I SEE.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A
SON.
THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
Pat: WELL, WHAT FINALLY
TURNED THINGS AROUND?
WELL, I THOUGHT WE CAN'T
WAIT ANY LONGER.
AFTER SEVERAL MONTHS, I
JOINED WITH MY
BROTHER-IN-LAW.
SO GOD GAVE ME THE VISION,
EVANGELIZE THE NATION OF
INDIA.
IF HE ASKED ME EARLIER, DO
YOU HAVE A VISION?
NO.
NOW THERE IS 1.2 BILLION
PEOPLE.
SO WE WENT INTO THE STREET,
AND STARTING TO HAVE STREET
MEETINGS ON THE SIDE OF THE
ROAD.
SO 100 TO 200 PEOPLE WOULD
COME AND WE PRAYED FOR THE
SICK.
AND RIGHT ON THE LORD'S
SIDE, THAT'S WHERE
MIRACULOUS THINGS HAPPENED,
LIKE BLIND EYES OPENED, THE
LAME WALKED.
AND DEMONS SCREAMING AND
COMING OUT OF THEIR LIVES.
Pat: YOU SAW IT RIGHT
THERE ON THE STREET?
RIGHT ON THE STREET.
NOT IN AN ORGANIZED
STADIUM.
SO PEOPLE CAME AND GAVE
THEIR HEARTS TO THE LORD,
AND WE BAPTIZED THEM.
AND SO THAT'S HOW WE STARTED
THE CHURCH.
Pat: AND NOW YOU HAVE
HOW MANY?
3,500 DHURCHES.
500 CHURCHES.
Pat: IN HOW MANY
YEARS?
SINCE '76.
SO ABOUT 39 YEARS.
Pat: WHAT DO YOU SEE
FOR INDIA?
I BELIEVE THAT INDIA IS
ON THE SHOULDER OF A GREAT
REVIVAL.
I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU
JUST IN ONE OF MY LITTLE
CHURCHES, REVIVAL HAS BROKEN
OUT ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO.
AT CHURCH, WE CAN ONLY FEED
40 PEOPLE ON THE FLOOR.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE, MAYBE
SMALLER THAN THE AREA WE'RE
SITTING.
ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, ABOUT
30 PEOPLE WALKED IN ON A
SUNDAY, THAT IS ALMOST
DOUBLING THE CHURCH.
THEY SAID WE CAME HERE
BECAUSE WE FELT WE WANTED
PRAYER.
SO THEY CAME AND THEY PRAYED
AND GOD HEALED THEM.
AND THEN IT BECAME, THE NEXT
WEEK, 80, 150, TWO MONTHS
DOWN THE ROAD, 500.
SO THE WHOLE AREA WAS ALL
PEOPLE SITTING UNDER THE
TREE EVERYWHERE.
AND GOD WAS DOING AMAZING
THINGS, THE BORN BLIND AND
LAME, HEALED INSTANTLY.
AND NOW WE HAVE 3,000 PEOPLE
EVERY DAY.
Pat: THAT TINY PLACE?
IN THAT TINY PLACE.
TWO PEOPLE WERE RAISED FROM
THE DEAD.
AND PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM
ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT
STATES.
Pat: THERE IS NOTHING
THOSE THREE MILLION GODS CAN
CAN DO.
DO.
AND AN INTERESTING THING,
THE MILITANTS CAME AND TRIED
TO STOP US.
BUT THE PASTORS DON'T KNOW
ANYTHING.
AND THEY SAID STOP THIS
THING.
AND THEY SAID, WE'RE NOT
DOING ANYTHING HERE.
WE'RE PRAYING AND ASKING GOD
TO BLESS US.
DO YOU WANT GOD'S BLESSING?
AND THEY LIFTED THEIR HANDS,
AND THE GUYS WERE ON THE
FLOOR, AND THEY GOT UP AND
RAN FOR THEIR LIFE.
THEY SAID WE'LL NEVER COME
BACK HERE.
Pat: YOU MUST THINK
THAT INDIA IS GOING TO COME
TO THE LORD.
I BELIEVE SO.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS A
LITTLE TASTE OF IT.
AND THE LORD SPOKE TO ME AS
I WAS THERE WITH THEM, IN
THIS TINY LITTLE PLACE.
THE LORD SAID TO ME, I WANT
TO DIVIDE THREE ACRES OF
LAND.
AND PUT UP JUST 10 GROVES TO
ENABLE 10,000 PEOPLE TO COME
AND WORSHIP EVERY DAY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'M PRAYING
FOR.
Pat: PRAISE GOD.
ALL TOGETHER, THOUGH, THE
CONGREGATIONS, HOW MANY
HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS -- HOW
MANY PEOPLE DO YOU HAVE?
WE'VE GOT HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ALL OVER
THE COUNTRY.
Pat: WELL, GOD BLESS
YOU.
I'M THRILLED TO SEE YOU.
AND MAY THE LORD BLESS YOU
AND YOUR MINISTRY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Pat: LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, GOD IS WORKING
AROUND THE WORLD.
TERRY!
Terry: EXCITING.
HERE IS ANOTHER EXCITING
THING.
IT IS OFFICIALLY SPRINGTIME
HERE.
BUT THE END OF WINTER ISN'T
THE ONLY REASON WHY WE'RE
CELEBRATING THIS WEEK.
HERE IS GORDON TO TELL YOU
MORE.
Gordon: WHEN WE ASKED
MY DAD HOW COULD WE HONOR
HIM ON HIS 80th BIRTHDAY,
HE SAID, I WANT TO BUILD A
CHAPEL ON THE CAMPUS OF CBN
AND REGENT UNIVERSITY THAT
WOULD BE A TRIBUTE TO GOD'S
FAITHFULNESS.
THIS IS WHAT IS ON MY DADS
HEART.
Pat: A CHAPEL.
THIS WILL ENABLE US TO SEND
THOUSANDS OF SERVANTS OF THE
LORD TO SERVE HIM IN THIS
COUNTRY, IN AFRICA, SOUTH
AMERICA, AND ASIA, AND ALL
OVER THE WORLD.
Terry: WELL, TOMORROW,
YOUNG MAN, YOUR 80th
BIRTHDAY WISH COMES TRUE.
IT HAS TAKEN US A LITTLE BIT
OF TIME TO GET THAT DONE FOR
YOU.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE
DEDICATING THE NEW REGENT
UNIVERSITY CHAPEL ON MARCH
22nd, WHICH ALSO HAPPENS
TO BE PAT'S BIRTHDAY.
Pat: I DON'T KNOW AT
WHAT POINT.
83 HAS BECOME THE NEW 40.
Terry: I'M HOPING SO.
IT IS THE LOW-FAT CAKE.
Pat: BOBBY COOKED THAT
FOR US.
IT IS THE REPLICA OF THE
CHAPEL.
FATHER, THANK YOU FOR THIS
TIME.
THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE
DOING.
AND WE PRAISE YOU FOR THE
YEARS THAT YOU HAVE BLESSED
ME AND ALL OF OUR DEAR
FRIENDS AND PARTNERS.
IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.
SEE YOU TOMORROW.
BYE-BYE.