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The 700 Club - March 27, 2013

Jim kept his substance abuse going in the face of death until a night on the frigid streets sobered him up. Plus, the latest video from The Skit Guys about the life of Christ. Read Transcript


Lee: HIS HEART WAS A

TICKING TIME BOMB, AND HE

WAS WILLING TO LIGHT THE

FUSE.

AND I SAT BACK, AND

WAITED FOR MY HEART TO

BURST.

Lee: HEAR WHAT SAVED

HIS LIFE.

I KNEW THAT EVERYTHING

WAS GOING TO BE OKAY.

Lee: ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

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[APPLAUSE]

Pat: WELCOME, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

HAPPY TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

IS THE SUPREME COURT GOING

TO EXERCISE RESTRAINT AND

ALLOW THE DEMOCRATIC

PROCESSES AROUND THE COUNTRY

TO TAKE HOLD?

WE HOPE SO.

BUT FOR THE SECOND DAY IN A

ROW, THE SUPREME COURT IS

TAKING AN HISTORIC CASE,

INVOLVING SAME-SEX MARRIAGE,

AND THESE CASES COULD HAVE A

PROFOUND IMPACT ON THE

FUTURE OF THE FAMILY IN

AMERICA.

Kristi: PAT, TODAY THE

COURT IS LOOKING AT A

FEDERAL LAW, THE DEFENSIVE

MARRIAGE ACT.

WE HAVE TWO REPORTS FROM CBN

NEWS, STARTING WITH EPHRAIM

GRAHAM.

Reporter: THE BIG

QUESTION BEFORE THE U.S.

SUPREME COURT TODAY IS NOT

WHETHER GAY MARRIAGE SHOULD

BE LEGAL.

IT IS WHETHER OR NOT THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD

RECOGNIZE THOSE UNIONS AND

GIVE BENEFITS TO SAME-SEX

COUPLES.

THERE ARE STILL, 1,138

RIGHTS WE DON'T HAVE RIGHTS

TO.

Reporter: THE DEFENSIVE

MARRIAGE ACT, DOMA,

BASICALLY SAYS THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT ONLY RECOGNIZES

MARRIAGES BETWEEN A MAN AND

A WOMAN.

THAT MEANS GAY MARRIED

COUPLES DON'T RECEIVE

BENEFITS.

WHEN EDDIE'S SPOUSE DIED IN

2009, SHE WAS FORCED TO PAY

A $360,000 ESTATE TAX, MONEY

SHE WOULDN'T HAVE OWED THE

I.R.S. IF HER PARTNER WAS

MALE.

BEFORE THE HIGH COURT CAN

WEIGH IN, JUSTICES MUST

DECIDE WHETHER THE GROUP OF

HOUSE REPUBLICANS LEADING

THE CHARGE HAS THE AUTHORITY

TO MAKE THE CASE.

DOMA SUPPORTERS ALSO ARGUE

THERE IS AN EVEN BIGGER

QUESTION TO CONSIDER.

IT WOULD LITERALLY

TRANSFORM THE CULTURE.

I THINK IT WOULD HURT

CHILDREN, BECAUSE CHILDREN

DO BEST WHEN THEY'RE RAISED

IN AN ENVIRONMENT WITH A MOM

AND A DAD.

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE AS A

POLICY MATTER WOULD SAY THAT

CHILDREN DON'T NEED MOMS OR

DADS.

Reporter: AND

SUPPORTERS URGE THE COURT TO

ALLOW DEMOCRACY TO PLAY OUT,

AND EVEN SOME PROTESTORS

THINK THAT IS WHAT WILL

HAPPEN IN THE END.

THERE IS A CHANCE THAT

DOMA WILL STILL BE THERE,

BUT I THINK OVER TIME THERE

WILL BE GAY MARRIAGE.

Reporter: TODAY'S

HEARING COMES AFTER THE

COURT HEARD THE FIRST GAY

MARRIAGE CASE ON TUESDAY.

CBN'S JOHN JESSUP WAS AT THE

COURT FOR THE CHALLENGE TO

CALIFORNIA'S PROPOSITION 8,

HERE IS HIS REPORT.

Reporter: TWO DAYS, TWO

HEARINGS, AND TWO POLAR

POINTS OF VIEW.

AND BOTH SIDES DELIVERED

STRONG SHOWINGS AT THE

COURT.

GAY, STRAIGHT, BLACK,

WHITE, MARRIAGE IS A CIVIL

RIGHT.

Reporter: THE JUSTICES

TOOK UP THE CHALLENGE TO

PROPOSITION 8, THAT DEFINES

MARRIAGE AS BETWEEN A MAN

AND A WOMAN, AND EFFECTIVELY

BANS GAY MARRIAGE.

AFTER 80 MINUTES OF ORAL

ARGUMENTS, EVEN QUESTIONING

WHETHER THE CASE SHOULD BE

JUDGED BY THIS COURT,

ATTORNEYS ON BOTH SIDES

SOUNDED CAUTIOUSLY

OPTMISTIC.

WE DON'T KNOW FOR HUIR

WHAT THE UNITED STATES

SUPREME COURT IS GOING TO

DO, BUT WE'RE VERY GRATIFIED

THEY LISTENED, THEY HEARD,

AND THEY ASKED HARD

QUESTIONS.

A VICTORY HERE FOR US

MEANS THIS ISSUE RETURNS TO

THE PEOPLE IN THEIR

LEGISLATURES, AND THEIR

STATES, WHERE THEY BELONG.

HEY, HEY, GO HOME.

Reporter: OPPONENTS OF

GAY MARRIAGE MET ON THE

NATIONAL MALL TO MARCH IN

SUPPORT OF TRADITIONAL

MARRIAGE.

IT IS IMPORTANT TO ME,

AND IT IS IMPORTANT FOR MY

CHILDREN, THAT THE

DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE

REMAINS BETWEEN ONE MAN AND

ONE WOMAN.

Reporter: OLD AND

YOUNG, THEY CARRIED SIGNS

AND WALKED HAND-IN-HAND TO

THE SUPREME COURT.

WHERE THEY CLASHED WITH

PROTESTORS RALLYING FOR

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

ONE WOMAN, ONE MAN.

NO HATE.

WE JUST DISAGREE.

Reporter: THIS MAN FROM

MARYLAND SAYS THE SCENERY

DIEWFD HI SCENE REDUCED HIM

TO TEARS.

Reporter: WHAT HAS

BROUGHT YOU TO TEARS.

I WANT TO PERSONALLY

REPENT FOR EVERYTHING I HAVE

DONE.

IF WE DO NOT REPENT OF OUR

SINS, WE WILL NOT RECOVER.

AMERICA WILL NOT RECOVER.

Reporter: SO FIRST

STREET BEFORE THE SUPERIOR

COURT, IS MUCH LIKE THE

DIVIDE IN THE COUNTRY.

YOU HAVE SUPPORTERS OF

TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, AND ON

THE OTHER, YOU HAVE THOSE IN

FAVOR OF SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

THOSE SUPPORTERS OF SAME-SEX

MARRIAGE RALLIED.

WITH PEOPLE LIKE THE FIRST

OPENLY GAY BISHOP.

HE TOLD CBN NEWS THAT THE

FIGHT IS REALLY ABOUT LOVE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY,

THE FIGHT IS ABOUT LOVE.

IF LOVE IS THERE, THEN GOD

IS THERE.

Reporter: THE PASTOR IS

ONE WHO PUSHED PROPOSITION 8

TO A VOTE.

HE SAID THE FIGHT IS ABOUT

EXPANDING A LIBERAL AGENDA.

THERE ISN'T THAT MUCH

INTEREST IN MARRIAGE OR

COMMITMENT AND MO MONOGAMY,

IT'S ABOUT A RIGHT.

THAT LOVE IS AS DESERVING

AND AS IMPORTANT AS A LOVE

FOR STRAIGHT PARENTS.

THERE IS A LOT OF LOVE IN

THE AIR HERE, AND I COULDN'T

BE MORE PROUD TO BE HERE

WITH MY DAD.

IT IS REALLY EXCITING.

Reporter: JOHN JESSUP,

CBN NEWS, THE SUPREME

COURT.

Pat: MARRIAGE, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN, HAS BEEN THE

FOUNDATION OF OUR SOCIETY.

A STABLE HOME, A HUSBAND, A

WIFE, AND CHILDREN.

AND THIS HAS BEEN THE

FOUNDATION OF OUR SOCIETY

SINCE THE FOUNDING OF OUR

GREAT REPUBLIC.

AND NOW IT IS UNDER ATTACK.

A FEW PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE

THEIR WAY OF DOING SEX

AFFIRMED BY EVERYBODY ELSE.

AND THEY SAY IT'S HOMOPHOBIA

TO BELIEVE THAT A MARRIAGE

BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN IS

SANCTIONED BY GOD.

GOD IS NOT A HOMOPHOBE.

GOD IS IN CHARGE OF THE

WORLD, AND THIS IS THE WAY

HE MADE IT.

WHY?

BECAUSE THIS IS THE WAY YOU

CAN HAVE CHILDREN.

TWO MEN DO NOT HAVE

CHILDREN.

TWO WOMEN DO NOT HAVE

CHILDREN.

THIS IS A MATTER BETWEEN A

MAN AND A WOMAN.

THAT'S THE WAY GOD MADE IT.

SOME MILITARY CHAPLAINS ARE

ALREADY WARNING IF THE

DEFENSIVE MARRIAGE ACT IS

STRUCK DOWN, IT COULD HURT

FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Reporter: A RULING

AGAINST DOMA COULD PUT

MILITARY CHAPLAINS AT

GREATER RISK FOR

DISCRIMINATION.

RON CRUZ HEADS THE CHAPLAIN

ALLIANCE FOR RELIGIOUS

LIBERTY.

HE SAYS IF DOMA IS STRUCK

DOWN.

CHAPLAINS WILL FIND THEIR

VOICES SILENCED AND THEIR

CAREERS DAMAGED.

IS THE BIBLE LOSING ITS

INFLUENCE IN AMERICA?

A NEW REPORT BY THE AMERICAN

BIBLE SOCIETY RAISES THAT

QUESTION.

IT'S ANNUAL "THE STATE OF

THE BIBLE REPORT" FINDS THAT

77% OF THOSE SURVEYED

BELIEVE VALUES AND MORALS IN

THE U.S. ARE DECLINING.

ONE-THIRD OF THEM SAY IT IS

BECAUSE WE DON'T READ THE

BIBLE ENOUGH.

THE SURVEY ALSO REVEALS A

GAP BETWEEN BELIEFS AND

ACTION.

FOR INSTANCE, 66% SAY THEY

BELIEVE THE BIBLE HAS

EVERYTHING A PERSON NEEDS TO

LIVE A MEANINGFUL LIFE.

BUT 58% SAY THEY DON'T WANT

THE WISDOM AND ADVICE THAT

THE BIBLE HAS TO OFFER.

57% SAY THEY READ THE

SCRIPTURES FEWER THAN FIVE

TIMES A YEAR.

I SPOKE WITH JEFF MORIN OF

THE AMERICAN BIBLE SOCIETY

ABOUT THE SURVEY, AND ASKED

HIM ABOUT THE REPORT'S

FINDING THAT AN INCREASING

NUMBER OF AMERICANS ARE

ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS THE

BIBLE.

OUR 2013 STUDY DOES SHOW

A NATION DIVIDED, AND THE

CRACKS ARE SHOWING.

WE LOOK AT THE POSITIVE

INFORMATION THAT IS

AVAILABLE ABOUT THE BIBLE,

BUT, ALSO, THERE ARE

CHALLENGES.

SO THERE ARE SIX MILLION

MORE, FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS

YEAR, SIX MILLION MORE OF

WHAT WE CALL BIBLE

ANTAGONISTS.

THEY ARE SAYING THEY'RE NOT

JUST NE NEUTRAL ON THE

BIBLE, DON'T READ THE BIBLE,

BUT ARE AGAINST READING THE

BIBLE.

Wendy: BUT HE POINTS

OUT THAT THE BIBLE IS STILL

THE NUMBER ONE SELLING BOOK

IN AMERICA.

ISN'T THAT INTERESTING THAT

PEOPLE ARE BECOMING MORE

ANTAGONISTIC TOWARDS THE

WORD OF GOD?

Pat: I WOULDN'T MAKE

TOO MUCH OF THAT.

THE BIG PROBLEM IS APATHY.

NOT REALLY ANTAGONISM.

I THINK IN THE YOUNGER

GENERATION, THERE IS A WHOLE

NEW MOVE TOWARDS

UNDERSTANDING THE BIBLE AND

ABIDING BY ITS PRINCIPLES.

THE WORD OF GOD STANDS.

THE WORD OF GOD STANDS.

SOMEBODY SAID IT IS LIKE A

LION.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DEFEND A

LION, JUST TURN HIM LOOSE.

I THINK THE SAME THING WITH

THE WORD OF GOD.

IT IS QUICK AND POWERFUL,

AND SHARPER THAN A TWO-EDGED

SWORD.

Wendy: THE GOVERNOR OF

FLORIDA WANTS MORE

INFORMATION ABOUT A

CLASSROOM LESSON INVOLVING

STOPPING ON A PAPER WITH THE

NAME JESUS ON IT.

HE HAS ASKED THE SYSTEM TO

LOOK INTO THE LESSON.

THE LESSON IS SUPPOSED TO

DEAL WITH THE POWER OF

CERTAIN WORDS, BUT ONE

STUDENT, RYAN, ROTELLA,

REFUSED.

HE WAS A STRONG MORMON, AND

SAID IT WOULD OFFEND HIS

RELIGIOUS BELIEF.

HE WAS SUSPENDED.

THE SCHOOL HAS APOLOGIZED

FOR THE ASSIGNMENT, AFTER

DEFENDING IT AT FIRST.

THE GOVERNOR SAYS THE LESSON

WAS OFFENSIVE AND

INTOLERANT.

THE PRICE OF OIL COULD FALL

IN THE NEXT DECADE.

AN ANALYST WITH CITIGROUP

SAYS ONE REASON IS BECAUSE

THE UNITED STATES IS GOING

TO START REDUCING MORE

NATURAL GAS.

HE ALSO SAYS CARS AND TRUCKS

ARE GETTING MORE

FUEL-EFFICIENT, SO THEY

WON'T NEED AS MUCH FUEL.

CITIGROUP ANALYST SAYS BOTH

OF THOSE FACTORS WILL CUT

DOWN ON THE DEMAND FOR OIL,

AND THAT COULD LEAD TO LOWER

PRICES.

AND THAT WOULD BE VERY NICE,

PAT.

Pat: WENDY, THE NICE

THING ABOUT THIS NATURAL GAS

IS THAT MANY BUSINESSES ARE

SWITCHING TO NATURAL GAS.

AND IT MEANS THAT OUR BASIC

INDUSTRIES, ESPECIALLY OUR

CHEMICAL INDUSTRY, IS GOING

TO BE TREMENDOUSLY

COMPETITIVE IN THE WORLD

MARKET BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE

THE ACCESS TO THE CHEAPEST

NATURAL GAS ON THE PLANET.

AND THIS SOMETHING THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS

DOBE.

DONE.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS WILL

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

PLEASE STAY OUT OF IT.

JUST KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF

THIS DEAL AND LET PRIVATE

ENTERPRISE DO ITS THING, AND

LOOK AT THE PROSPERITY THAT

IS COMING ABOUT.

I WAS READING AN ARTICLE A

FEW MINUTES AGO ABOUT THE

RESURGENCE OF RAILROADS.

AND GREAT, LONG TRAINS ARE

LINING UP IN NORTH DAKOTA,

AND BEING FILLED UP WITH

OIL, AND THEY'RE ON THEIR

WAY TO THE WEST COAST.

AND OTHER TRAIN TAKES THEIR

PLACE BECAUSE OF THE

TREMENDOUS OIL BOOM THAT IS

TAKING PLACE ON PRIVATE

LAND, BY PRIVATE ENTER

ENTERPRISE IN THIS FRACKING

REVOLUTION THAT WE'RE

SEEING.

CONGRATULATIONS.

LET'S NOT BURDEN THE

PETROLEUM INDUSTRY WITH

UNNECESSARY REGULATIONS.

LET THEM DO THEIR THING.

AND BLESS US ALL.

SOME FEDERAL PLANS TO

MONITOR PRIVATE E-MAILS IS

SPARKING ACTION AT THE STATE

LAW.

IN CALIFORNIA, ONE LAW MAKER

HAS INTRODUCED A BILL TO

HELP PROTECT ELECTRONIC

COMMUNICATIONS.

Reporter: IF LAW

ENFORCEMENT WANT TO READ

YOUR COMMUNICATIONS BY CARDS

AND LETTERS, THEY MUST GET A

WARRANTS.

ON THE COMPUTER, IT IS A

DIFFERENT STORY.

IF YOU'VE ALREADY OPENED

YOUR MAIL OR THE MESSAGE IN

THE IN BOX IS MORE THAN SIX

MONTHS OLD, FEDERAL AGENCIES

CAN LOOK AT THEM.

THE LAW IS VERY

CONFUSING, AND HAS PERMITTED

THE GOVERNMENT TO SEARCH

YOUR E-MAILS, HELD BY

PROVIDERS WITHOUT A

WARRANT.

Reporter: E-MAIL

PRIVACY GOT NATIONAL BILLING

WHEN DAVID PETRAEUS'

EXTRA-MARITAL AFFAIR WAS

DISCOVERED BY PERSONAL

E-MAILS.

STATE SENATOR MARK LENO

WANTS TO MAKE SURE

INVESTIGATORS HAVE TO GET A

SUBPOENA WHEN IT COMES TO

SEARCHING ELECTRONIC

COMMUNICATIONS.

ALL WE'RE SAYING IS YOU

NEED TO GO TO A COURT, MAKE

THE CASE THAT THERE IS A

REASONABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE

THAT SOME ILLEGAL ACTIVITY

IS ON GOING.

Reporter: LENO

SPONSORED A BILL LAST YEAR

THAT PASSED THE LEGISLATURE,

EVEN THOUGH IT WAS OPPOSED

BY TOP WIRELESS PROVIDERS,

SUCH AS VERIZON AND AT&T.

THEY SAID IT WOULD UNDULY

BURDEN WIRELESS PROVIDERS

AND EMPLOYEES WITH MULTIPLE

NUMBERS OF REQUESTS FROM

AUTHORITIES FOR

INFORMATION.

AND POLICE WERE ALSO OPPOSED

TO IT, SAYING IT WOULD SLOW

DOWN CRIMINAL

INVESTIGATIONS.

GOVERNOR JERRY BROWN VETOED

THE BILL.

NOW WITH HOME LAND SECURITY

SECRETARY JANET NAPOLITANO

SAYING THAT THE PERSONAL

GOVERNMENT WILL CRACK

PERSONAL E-MAILS, LENO IS

TRYING AGAIN FOR PROTECTION

AT THE STATE LEVEL.

JOHN WAGGI, CBN NEWS.

THANKS, JOHN.

A DIET RICH IN SOY COULD

HELP WOMEN FIGHTING LUNG

CANCER LIVE LONGER.

THEY STUDIED THE DIETS OF

NEARLY 75,000 CHINESE WOMEN

FOR A WHOLE DECADE.

IT FOUND THAT WOMEN WHO ATE

A HIGH SOY DIET BEFORE THEY

WERE DIAGNOSED WERE 20% MORE

LIKELY TO BE ALIVE THAN

THOSE WHO DIDN'T.

RESEARCHERS SAY ONLY 15% OF

WOMEN WHO DEVELOPED LUNG

CANCER ARE STILL ALIVE AFTER

THEIR DYINGNIZES.

A SIMILAR STUDY REPORTED

THAT WOMEN WHO ATE LOTS OF

SOY WERE LESS LIKELY TO

DEVELOP LUNG CANCER IN THE

FIRST PLACE.

I'VE HEARD GOOD THINGS AND

BAD THINGS ABOUT SOY.

I'M CONFUSED.

Pat: WENDY, YOU'RE

RIGHT.

I'M A FAN OF SOY, BUT THEY

FOUND MORE AND MORE ESTROGEN

IN IT, AND WOMEN WHO ARE

PRONE TO BREAST CANCER WOULD

FIND THAT SOY WOULD

ACCELERATE THE GROWTH OF

THOSE CANCEROUS CELLS.

SO THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON

SOY.

I'M A GREAT FAN OF SOY.

I THINK IT IS TERRIFIC.

BUT, NEVERTHELESS, THERE ARE

SOME DOWN SIDES, AND THAT'S

WHAT THE DOWNSIDE IS, FOR

WOMEN, THIS ESTROGEN THING.

AND FOR MEN, I DON'T THINK

MEN ARE ALL THAT KEEN ON

TAKING TOO MUCH ESTROGEN

INTO THEIR BODIES.

THEY WANT MUSCLE-BUILDING

TESTOSTERONE.

Wendy: THAT'S TRUE.

Kristi: WENDY LITERALLY

TOOK THE WORDS OUT OF MY

MOUTH BECAUSE THERE ARE SO

MANY PROS AND CONS.

ISN'T THAT THE CASE WITH ALL

OF THE RESEARCH.

UP NEXT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE

YOU TO THE SCENE OF A

TERRORIST ATTACK THAT IS ALL

TOO REAL, ONLY IT ISN'T.

SEE WHERE EMERGENCY WORKERS

TRAIN FOR DISASTERS WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Pat: THE NEWS IS FULL

OF THESE REPORTS, NATURAL

DISASTERS, MASSIVE TRAFFIC

ACCIDENTS, TERRORIST

ATTACKS.

WELL, WHEN DISASTER STRIKES,

FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE TO BE

ON THE SCENE QUICKLY.

AND THEY HAVE TO WORK AS A

TEAM.

THEY ALSO HAVE TO PRACTICE

WHAT TO DO SO THAT THEY CAN

BE PREPARED.

OUR CHUCK HOLTON TAKES US

UNDERGROUND TO SHOW HOW

THESE RESPONDERS TRAIN FOR

EMERGENCIES.

HERE IS CHUCK.

HELP!

Reporter: A TERRORIST

EVENT IN A CROWDED SUBWAY.

DEAD AND WOUNDED LITTER THE

STATION, WHILE RESCUERS RUSH

IN TO HELP.

FORTUNATELY, THIS IS ONLY AN

EXERCISE.

BUT FOR THE TRAINERS IN THIS

SCENARIO, IT DOESN'T FEEL

THAT WAY.

FIRST RESPONDERS FROM AROUND

THE NATION TRAVEL HERE, TO

THE MOUNTAINS OF WEST

VIRGINIA, TO GO

UNDERGROUND.

WE WILL TAKE UNITS FROM

THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY,

SUPPORT TEAMS, CIVILIAN

FIRST RESPONDERS, AND WE

WILL TAILER EXERCISES TO

WHAT THEIR COMMANDERS NEED.

WHETHER IT BE A DRUG

LABORATORY, A COLLAPSED

PARKING STRUCTURE, A MOCK

HOSTAGE RESCUE, TO ACTUAL

EXTRACTION FROM COLLAPSED

STRUCTURES OUTSIDE AS WELL.

Reporter: A TUNNEL THAT

WAS ONCE PART OF A STATE

TURNPIKE SERVES A NEW

PURPOSE: TAKING DISASTER

RESCUE TO A WHOLE NEW

LEVEL.

WE CAN HAVE SMOKE IN

HERE, AND THE ECHO IN THE

TUNNEL SHOWS THE REALISM.

YOU'LL HAVE JACK HAMMERS,

AND PEOPLE CRYING FOR HELP.

Reporter: TODAY'S

EXERCISE, A SIMULATED TERROR

ATTACK ON A SUBWAY TRAIN.

LOCAL WEST VIRGINIANS SERVE

AS VICTIMS, AND THE TRAINING

UNIT CAME ALL THE WAY FROM

PORTLAND, OREGON.

A RESPONSE LIKE THIS,

THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO, IS

VERY RARE.

THAT'S WHY WE TRAVEL FROM

PORTLAND TO DO IT.

WE TRAIN ROUTINELY, BUT YOU

DO NOT GET A TUNNEL AND A

RAIL CAR WHERE YOU CAN

CONTROL THE SMOKE AND THE

VICTIMS.

WE COME IN AND DO A SWEEP

OF THE SCENE AND DETERMINE

IF WE CAN WORK AROUND THEM.

WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING

TO GET THOSE FOLKS OUT OF

HARM'S WAY WHILE OUR D.O.T.

GUY RENDERS THEM OKAY.

Reporter: A MAJOR CAR

PILEUP INSIDE A TUNNEL LIKE

THIS WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE

DISASTER.

IT WOULD SEE ALL AGENCIES

CONVERGING ON THE SCENE.

IF THEY HAVE NEVER WORKED

TOGETHER BEFORE, THEY MIGHT

NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT AS

EFFECTIVELY.

THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT

ARE GOING TO SHOW UP, AFTER

THE FIRST RESPONDERS ARE

THERE, AND THESE ARE THE

PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO

SHOW UP AND BE THE HEAVY

LIFTERS.

THEY BRING THE HEAVY

EQUIPMENT AND THE PERSONNEL

THAT ARE NEEDED TO DO A VERY

LARGE EVENT.

Reporter: EMERGENCY

WORKERS COME FROM FAR AND

WIDE BECAUSE THIS LEVEL OF

REALISM ISN'T AVAILABLE

ANYWHERE ELSE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN

A LONG TIME WE HAVE ACTUALLY

HAD LIFE ACTORS.

I THINK THE LIVE ACTORS

PROVIDE A SENSE OF REALISM

AND EMERGENCY.

WE HOPE WE NEVER HAVE TO

USE THIS, BUT THE MORE

PREPARED WE ARE, THE BETTER

WE ARE IN CASE SOMETHING

HAPPENS.

Reporter: THE MILITARY

GETS TO USE THE TUNNEL AS

WELL.

HERE UNITED STATES MARINES

CONDUCT CHEMICAL AND

BIOLOGICAL TRAINING IN A

SIMULATED DRUG LAB.

SPECIAL OPERATIONS ALSO

COME FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY

TO TRAIN IN THIS SPECIALLY

CONSTRUCTED CAVE COMPLEX,

WHICH IS BUILT TO LOOK JUST

LIKE THE ONES IN

AFGHANISTAN.

IT DOESN'T GET MUCH MORE

REALISTIC THAN THIS.

IN THE MOUNTAINS OUTSIDE

CHARLESTON, WEST VIRGINIA,

I'M CHUCK HOLTON FOR CBN

NEWS.

Pat: CLUCK IS OUR GO

TO, BOOM-BOOM MAN.

Kristi: HE IS LIKE G.I.

JOE.

Pat: HE IS TERRIFIC.

Kristi: LATER WE'LL

BRING IT ON WITH YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

JOHN SAYS, WHAT IS THE

SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EGGS AND

BUNNIES DURING THE

CELEBRATION OF EASTER.

MY SON ASKED ME THE SAME

QUESTION THIS MORNING.

"IS IT WRONG IF I ALLOW MY

CHILDREN TO CELEBRATE WITH

EASTER EGGS AND BUNNIES AND

EASTER EGG HUNTS?"

WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE THAT

AND MORE.

BUT FIRST, MEET AN ALCOHOLIC

WHO WAS SO DRUNK THAT NOT

EVEN A REMAB CLINIC WOULD

TAKE HIM.

THE GUY SAYS, YOU CAN'T

COME IN HERE BECAUSE I HAVE

150 GUYS IN HERE TRYING TO

GET SOBER.

I CAN'T LET YOU IN.

Kristi: HEAR WHAT HE

SAYS, UP NEXT.

Pat: I WANT TO

INTRODUCE YOU TO JIM

CHRISTENSEN.

JIM LOVED A GOOD DRINK.

HE LOVED A GOOD ANYTHING,

ACTUALLY, FROM BEER TO CRACK

TO HUFFING GLUE.

FOR DECADES, JIM CHRISTENSEN

TOOK IN AS MUCH JUNK AS HIS

BODY COULD HANDLE, AND HE

WOULDN'T STOP.

UNTIL ONE DAY IN REHAB JIM

PUT DOWN THE BOTTLE AND

PICKED UP A BIBLE.

THREE, TWO, ONE!

Reporter: AS A YOUNG

BOY GROWING UP IN CHICAGO,

JIM CHRISTENSEN EXCELLED IN

SCHOOL AND SPORTS.

BUT WHEN HE GOT TO BE A

TEENAGER, HIS LIFE CHANGED.

HIS MOTHER, WHO HAD BEEN

ABUSED WHEN SHE WAS A

TEENAGER, TOOK HER ANGER OUT

ON HIM.

I WAS NEVER GOOD ENOUGH.

NONE OF US WERE.

SHE ALWAYS COMPARED US TO

OTHERS.

AND I'LL NEVER AMOUNT TO

ANYTHING, I WAS TOLD.

I'M NO GOOD.

Reporter: THE CONSTANT

CRITICISM TOOK ITS TOLL.

ONE DAY I'M BUILDING A

MODEL AND I STARTED TO SNIFF

THE GLUE THAT I USED TO

BUILD IT.

Reporter: JIM STARTED

DRINKING AND DOING DRUGS.

HE WAS KICKED OUT OF SCHOOL

AND JOINED THE ARMY AT 17.

TWO YEARS IN, HE WAS BUSTED

FOR DRUNK POSSESSION AND

DISHONORABLY DISCHARGED.

BACK IN CIVILIAN CLOTHES,

JIM MET AND EVENTUALLY

MARRIED MARTHA.

HE WAS FUNNY.

HE WAS OUTGOING.

HE WAS WITTY.

HE WAS EVERYTHING THAT I

WASN'T.

Reporter: MARTHA KNEW

JIM USED DRUGS OCCASIONALLY,

BUT SHE DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS

SNORTING COKE EVERY DAY.

MY NOSE WOULD START TO

BLEED.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I WOUND UP

GETTING INTRODUCED TO CRACK

COCAINE.

Reporter: A HEAVY CRACK

BINGE BROUGHT ON A HEART

ATTACK.

A DOCTOR TOLD JIM IF HE

SMOKED CRACK EVEN ONE MORE

TIME, HE COULD DIE.

I REALIZED THIS THING HAS

TAKEN EVERYTHING THAT I LOVE

FROM ME.

IT WAS MY NUMBER ONE

PRIORITY.

NOT MY CHILDREN, NOT MY

WIFE, NOT MY JOB.

Reporter: JIM CLEANED

UP HIS ACT FOR ABOUT A

MONTH.

THEN ONE DAY SOMEBODY PUT

IT IN FRONT OF ME, AND AS

INSANE AS IT MAY SOUND, I

DID IT.

AND I SAT BACK, SCARED TO

DEATH, WAITING FOR MY HEART

TO BURST.

Reporter: JIM KEPT

JUICING CRACK, AND AFTER 20

YEARS IN THE PIZZA BUSINESS,

HE LOST HIS JOB.

WITH NO INCOME, HE TOOK

MONEY FROM HIS WIFE TO BUY

DRUGS.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I

WANTED SO MUCH TO HATE HIM.

BUT I DIDN'T.

I STILL LOVED HIM.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

HIS FAMILY CONVINCED HIM TO

GO TO A SALVATION ARMY REHAB

CENTER.

HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER

DROPPED HIM OFF, BUT HE

DIDN'T WANT TO KEEP HIS END

OF THE BARGAIN.

MY DAUGHTER AND MY WIFE

WERE YELLING FROM THE CAR TO

GO IN.

AND HE JUST KEPT WALKING

DOWN THE STREET.

HE WAS LIKE A COLD STONE,

JUST WALKING DOWN THE

STREET, LIKE HE DIDN'T EVEN

KNOW US.

AND FINALLY I SAID TO HER,

HONEY, WE'VE JUST GOT TO LET

HIM GO.

HE'S GOT TO DO WHAT HE'S GOT

TO DO.

AND ALL WE CAN DO IS PRAY

THAT GOD WILL KEEP HIM

SAFE.

AND IF HE DOESN'T, IT'S NOT

OUR FAULT.

AND I WALKED AND FOUND A

TAVERN, AND THEY DROVE OFF.

AND I SPENT MY LAST COUPLE

DOLLARS, GOT A COUPLE OF

BEERS, AND I SAYS, WELL,

OKAY, I'M READY.

AND THAT'S WHEN I WALKED

DOWN, BACK TO THE

REHABILITATION CENTER.

AND THE GUY AT THE DESK

SAYS, YOU CAN'T COME IN

HERE.

AND I SAYS WHY?

AND HE SAYS, YOU SMELL LIKE

ALCOHOL.

I'VE GOT 150 GUYS IN HERE

TRYING TO GET SOBER.

I CAN'T LET YOU IN.

WELL, IT WAS THE IN MIDDLE

OF WINTER, THE LAST WEEK OF

FEBRUARY, AND IT WAS COLD.

I WALKED THE STREETS ALL

NIGHT LONG.

I HADN'T EATEN FOR ABOUT

THREE DAYS.

I WAS STARTING TO COME DOWN

FROM THE DRUGS.

SO NOW I'M COLD AND I'M

HUNGRY AND PENNILESS.

Reporter: JIM FELT

COMPLETELY ABANDONED, BUT

GOD WAS WITH HIM.

THERE WAS SOMETHING

WALKING WITH ME.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AN

ANGEL, BUT THEY KEPT ME

SAFE.

I WAS WALKING SOME PRETTY

HARSH STREETS.

THEY WERE, LIKE, JIM, TAKE A

LOOK.

THIS IS YOUR LIFE.

I DIDN'T LIKE IT.

Reporter: JIM SOBERED

UP AND WAS ALLOWED TO CHECK

INTO THE REHAB CENTER.

THERE HE HAD ANOTHER

ENCOUNTER WITH GOD.

I WAS AT THE LOWEST POINT

OF MY LIFE, AND THERE WAS A

BIBLE SITTING ON THE BUNK.

I PICKED IT UP, AND AT THAT

MOMENT, I WAS SPOKEN TO.

AND I REMEMBER REAL CLEAR

THE WORDS SPOKEN TO ME WAS,

"JIM, IF YOU SERVE ME, I

WILL RENEW YOUR LIFE."

AND I WENT, WOW!

AT THAT MOMENT I REALIZED

THAT I WAS JUST GIVEN A

PROMISE.

AND AT THAT MOMENT, I WAS

FILLED WITH THIS HOPE.

THE SHAME, THE GUILT -- IT

JUST LEFT ME.

AND I JUST KNEW -- I KNEW

THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING TO

BE OKAY.

Reporter: JIM GAVE HIS

LIFE TO CHRIST.

HE WAS IMMEDIATELY DELIVERED

FROM HIS CRACK ADDICTION.

BUT MARTHA COULDN'T BELIEVE

HE HAD CHANGED, SO SHE

WOULDN'T TAKE HIM BACK.

JIM MOVED IN WITH HIS SISTER

AND VOLUNTEERED AT HER

CHURCH.

I MADE A PROFESSION OF

FAITH AT THE EASTER SUNRISE

SERVICE.

TO STAY, I WANTED TO MAKE A

CONFESSION OF FAITH AMONGST

OTHER BELIEVERS.

Reporter: MEANWHILE,

MARTHA AND THEIR FIVE

CHILDREN HAD BEEN FORCED TO

MOVE INTO A ONE-BEDROOM

APARTMENT AFTER THE BANK

FORECLOSED ON THEIR HOME.

WHEN THE TWO YOUNGEST

WANTED TO GO OUT AND SEE

HIM, I FELT LIKE THEY

BETRAYED ME.

BECAUSE I WAS A GOOD

PARENT.

THEY WERE OUT THERE FOR

ALMOST A WEEK.

AND THEY CAME BACK AND THEY

WERE SO EXCITED.

AND I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT

THEY WERE SO EXCITED FROM

SEEING THEIR DAD AFTER

EVERYTHING HE PUT US

THROUGH.

AND THEY WERE SAYING HOW DAD

LISTENS TO CHRISTIAN MUSIC.

DAD GOES TO CHURCH.

DAD DOESN'T SWEAR ANYMORE.

Reporter: JIM MOVED

BACK IN WITH HIS FAMILY.

IN TIME, MARTHA FORGAVE

HIM.

WHEN HE WOULD DRIVE ME TO

WORK, WE STARTED TO PRAY

TOGETHER.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT

BROUGHT US CLOSER.

Reporter: JIM'S FORMER

BOSS GAVE HIM ANOTHER SHOT

IN THE PIZZA BUSINESS.

HE STARTED BACK AS A BUSBOY,

WORKED HIS WAY UP TO

MANAGER, AND EVENTUALLY

BOUGHT THE SHOP HE MANAGED.

IT IS MY DREAM COME

TRUE.

I'VE ALWAYS WANTED A PIZZA

PLACE OF MY OWN.

Reporter: TODAY THE

BUSINESS IS THRIVING, AND

THREE OF HIS CHILDREN WORK

AT THE SHOP WITH HIM.

HE IS ALSO BACK IN UNIFORM.

LAST YEAR, EASTER SUNDAY,

I WAS ENROLLED AS A SOLDIER

IN THE SALVATION ARMY.

AND IN ORDER TO DO THAT, TO

WEAR THE UNIFORM, YOU CAN'T

DRINK, YOU CAN'T SMOKE OR DO

DRUGS.

TO WEAR THAT UNIFORM TODAY,

FOR ME, IS A SIGN OF VICTORY

THAT GOD HAS GIVEN IN MY

LIFE.

JESUS SAID THAT HE'S THE

LIGHT, AND HE IS THE LIGHT

THAT WILL GET YOU OUT OF

YOUR DARKNESS.

IT IS A MIRACLE, WHAT HE

HAS DONE.

HE SAVED MY LIFE.

WE HAVE TO GIVE UP LORDSHIP

OF OUR OWN LIFE AND LET

JESUS BE LORD, AND TRUST

HIM.

AND HE'LL SHOW YOU WHAT

HE'LL DO, AND IT'S AMAZING.

Pat: WHAT A TESTIMONY.

TRUST HIM, AND HE'LL SHOW

YOU WHAT HE CAN DO.

LISTEN, JESUS CHRIST IS

ABLE.

THE WONDER OF GOD.

THE WONDER OF GOD.

IF YOU'LL SERVE ME, I'LL

BLESS YOU.

IF YOU'LL SERVE ME, I'LL

BLESS YOU.

I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO

THINGS THAT HURT YOU.

I'M NOT TRYING TO RESTRICT

YOUR FREEDOM.

I WANT TO HELP YOU FROM

BEING HURT.

I WANT TO KEEP YOU OUT OF

TROUBLE.

AND I WANT TO BRING YOU INTO

A PLACE OF BOUNTY AND

BLESSING AND FULFILLMENT AND

JOY.

JOY UNSPEAKABLE AND FULL OF

GLORY.

THAT'S WHAT GOD INTENDS FOR

YOU.

NOT CONDEMNATION.

NOT A WHIP.

NOT CHAINS AND SHACKLES.

BUT FREEDOM.

FREEDOM.

HE WANTS YOU TO BE FREE.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT

FREEDOM, ASK THE ONE WHO

DIED TO GIVE IT TO YOU.

HIS NAME IS JESUS.

AND WE WANT TO PRAY RIGHT

NOW.

AND IF YOU WILL PRAY WITH ME

AND YOU WILL SAY THESE WORDS

AND MEAN THEM IN YOUR HEART,

HE WILL HEAR, AND HE'LL

ANSWER.

DO YOU WANT TO BE FREE?

I KNOW YOU DO.

PRAY THESE WORDS.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, PRAY

WITH ME.

JESUS, I KNOW YOU DIED ON

THE CROSS FOR ME.

LORD, I'VE SINNED.

LORD, I'M UNWORTHY.

BUT, GOD, YOU SAID YOU LOVED

ME.

AND RIGHT NOW I COME TO YOU

WITH ALL MY PROBLEMS, AND I

SURRENDER EVERYTHING TO YOU

AT THIS MOMENT.

LORD, JESUS, I'M YOURS.

I ASK YOU TO COME NOW INTO

MY HEART.

LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME, AND I

WILL LIVE FOR YOU.

AND I WILL SERVE YOU ALL THE

DAYS OF MY LIFE.

NOW, IF YOU PRAYED THAT

PRAYER WITH ME, I'M GOING TO

SEND YOU SOMETHING, IF

YOU'LL GIVE ME A CALL.

I HAD.

I HAD THE JOY SOMETIME AGO

OF GOING INTO OUR STUDIO

ROOM AND MAKING A COMPACT

DISC OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN

YOU COME TO JESUS, WHEN

YOU'RE BORN AGAIN, WHEN YOU

HAVE AN EXCHANGED LIFE, WHEN

YOU'RE RESCUED FROM DEATH

AND BROUGHT INTO LIFE.

IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."

I'LL SEND IT TO YOU FREE IF

YOU'LL DO ME THE COURTESY

AND GIVE ME YOUR TELEPHONE

CALL.

IT IS CALLED "A NEW DAY."

IT'S FREE, ABSOLUTELY FREE.

CALL RIGHT NOW.

YOU JUST PRAYED WITH ME AND

YOU'RE FREE.

YOU FEEL SOMETHING WONDERFUL

GOING ON EN YOUR LIFE.

IT IS 1-800-

1-800-759-0700.

IT'S A TOLL-FREE NUMBER.

THIS WEEK CHRISTIANS MARK

WHAT IS CALLED HOLY WEEK,

EASTER SUNDAY, PALM SUNDAY,

AND SO FORTH.

EASTER IS THE DAY THAT WE

CELEBRATE, IS THE DAY WHEN

JESUS ROSE FROM THE GRAVE.

IN THIS VIDEO OF THE SKIT

GUYS, IT IS THE CONSUMMATE

EVENT IN THE LIFE OF THE ONE

WHO CHANGED THE WORLD.

* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD

* I HOLLER OUT FOR YOU

* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD

* YOU KNOW ME BY NAME

* MEET ME BY THE WATERS

* AND I WILL NEVER CHANGE

* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD

* YOU ARE ALL I NEED

* YOU BRING PERFECT PEACE

* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD

* YOU SAY IT'S TIME TO

* EVEN THOUGH I AM

SURROUNDED *

* YOU ARE A GOOD SHEPHERD

* YOU CALL ME YOUR OWN

* THE CUP WILL OVERFLOW

* YOU COULDN'T HAVE KNOWN

* YOU ARE MY GOOD

SHEPHERD *

* YOU SHOW ME LOVE

* MY CUP WILL OVERFLOW

* WITH YOUR GOODNESS

* WITH YOUR GOODNESS AND

LOVE *

*

Reporter: WELCOME BACK

TO "THE 700 CLUB."

THE GOVERNOR OF NORTH DAKOTA

HAS SIGNED LEGISLATION

EFFECTIVELY BANNING MOST

ABORTIONS IN THE STATE.

ONE MEASURE OUTLAWS THE

PROCEDURE IF A FEE FETAL

HEART BEAT CAN BE

DETICKETED.

ANOTHER MAKES NORTH DAKOTA

THE FIRST STATE TO BAN

ABORTIONS BASED ON GENITAL

EFFECTS.

THE MEASURES ARE SET TO TAKE

EFFECT AUGUST 1st, BUT THE

GOVERNOR ACKNOWLEDGES A

COURT BATTLE IS LIKELY.

PARENTS WILL BE ALLOWED TO

CHOOSE WHERE TO SEND THEIR

CHILDREN TO SCHOOL IN

INDIANA.

THE STATE SUPREME COURT HAS

UPHELD A SCHOOL VOUCHER LAW

THERE.

THE JUSTICES RULED THE LAW

DOES NOT VIOLATE A STATE

CONSTITUTIONAL BAN ON PUBLIC

FUNDS GOING TO RELIGIOUS

INSTITUTIONS.

THE COURT RULED INSTEAD THAT

THE VOUCHER LAW PRIMARILY

BENEFITS FAMILIES, NOT

SCHOOLS OR RELIGIOUS

GROUPS.

THE VOUCHERS ALLOW PARENTS

TO DECIDE HOW TO USE THEIR

TAX DOLLARS.

BEFORE THAT MONEY WOULD

AUTOMATICALLY BE GIVEN TO

THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS EVEN IF

THE CHILDREN ATTENDED

PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST BY GOING TO

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND KRISTI WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Kristi: WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN

WITH A QUESTION THAT I WANT

TO KNOW BECAUSE MY

9-YEAR-OLD SON ASKED ME THIS

VERY QUESTION THIS MORNING.

JOHN SAYS, "WHAT IS THE

SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EGGS AND

BUNNIES DURING THE

CELEBRATION OF EASTER.

ISN'T THE DAY ABOUT THE

RESURRECTION OF JESUS

CHRIST?

IS IT WRONG IF I ALLOW MY

CHILDREN TO CELEBRATE WITH

EASTER BASKETS, CHOCOLATE

BUNNIES AND EASTER EGG

HUNTS, AS LONG AS I TELL

THEM THE TRUE MEANING OF

EASTER?"

Pat: I DID A LITTLE BIT

OF RESEARCH TO MAKE SURE I

GOT IT RIGHT.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS NO

MENTION OF EASTER IN THE

BIBLE.

NONE.

THE WORD DOES NOT APPEAR IN

THE NEW TESTAMENT.

Kristi: OKAY.

Pat: IT IS IS TAKEN

FROM A GERMANIC GODDESS,

WESTRA, WHO WAS A SYMBOL OF

SPRING.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS GERMANIC GODDESS LIKED

RABBITS, FROM WHAT WE

GATHER.

THE TUTONIC PEOPLE HAD A

MYTH THAT RABBITS WERE

HERMAPHIDITES DID NOT NEED

TO HAVE SEX TO HAVE

BUNNIES.

Kristi: THAT'S WHAT

THEY BELIEVED?

Pat: THAT'S WHAT THEY

BELIEVED.

THE EGG, IN PAGAN MYTHOLOGY

IS THE SYMBOL OF SEX AND

REPRODUCTION.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF

THE ANCIENT CATHEDRALS --

NOT CATHEDRALS -- ANCIENT

TEMPLES.

THEY HAVE THE EGG SYMBOL.

THEY HAVE THE FALAX SYMBOL

AND THE EGG.

SO IT IS ALL PAGAN.

SO THIS BUSINESS ABOUT

BUNNIES HAVE TO DO WITH

HERMAPHADITE BUNNIES HAVING

ALL KINDS OF BABIE BABIES.

NOW, WE CHECKED WITH

DISCOVERY CHANNEL, AND

CHECKED WITH THE UNIVERSITY

OF FLOR FLORIDA MARLINS,

UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA.

IT IS TOTALLY, UTTERLY,

COMPLETELY PAGAN.

PAGAN FERTILITY SYMBOLS.

OKAY.

NOW, IS IT WRONG?

I MEAN, HEY, KIDS WANT

CANDIED EGGS --

Kristi: GOD BLESS

THEM.

Pat: GOD BLESS THEM.

BUT TELL THEM ABOUT JESUS.

DON'T ACT LIKE THIS HAS ANY

SPIRITUAL SIGNIFICANCE

WHATSOEVER.

IF YOU SAY, OKAY, WE'RE

GOING TO HAVE A HUNT FOR

CANDIED EGGS, GO OUT AND

HUNT FOR THEM.

THAT'S A GAME.

PLAY GAMES.

I DON'T SEE ANY SIN IN

THAT.

BUT IF YOU GET INTO THIS

STUFF, KEEP IN MIND WHERE IT

COMES FROM.

AND THE REALTIME WHEN JESUS

WAS CRUCIFIED WAS THE

PASSOVER.

AND SO THE CHURCH WENT

THROUGH A BIG DEAL OF TRYING

TO FIGURE OUT THE EXACT

TIME.

AND THE EASTERN CHURCH SPLIT

WITH THE WESTERN CHURCH.

SO IT IS TOO COMPLICATED TO

DISCUSS BECAUSE I DON'T

FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY

WERE DOING.

BUT, NEVERTHELESS, IT HAS TO

DO WITH THE VERNAL EQUINOX

AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE

TIME OF THE FULL MOON, WHICH

PASSOVER IS THE TIME OF THE

FULL MOON, AND IT'S A COUPLE

OF WEEKS AFTER THAT.

YOU'LL FIND EASTER AND THE

PASSOVER CO QUI PASSOVER

COINCIDING ROUGHLY ON THE

CALENDAR.

Kristi: I'M LISTENING

TO YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION,

AND I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

HOW I AM GOING TO TELL MY

SON.

Pat: TELL YOUR SON IT

IS A PAGAN SYMBOL FROM THE

OLD TRIBES AND IT HAS

NOTHING TO DO WITH JESUS.

Kristi: AND THE GREAT

THING ABOUT EASTER IS THE

DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF

JESUS.

SARA SAYS, "MY HUSBAND WANTS

TO LEAVE OUR CHURCH BECAUSE

THEY DON'T HAVE A CROSS

ANYWHERE.

HE WAS SAVED THERE, BAPTIZED

THERE, AND WE WERE MARRIED

THERE.

BUT THIS IS BOTHERING SO

MUCH TO THE POINT WHERE HE

HATES GOING TO CHURCH.

DOES A CHURCH HAVE TO HAVE A

CROSS DISPLAYED IN ORDER FOR

GOD TO HONOR THE CHURCH?"

Pat: ABSOLUTELY NOT.

YOUR HUSBAND HAS GOT A

PROBLEM.

HE IS FOCUSING ON

NON-ESSENTIALS.

JESUS CHRIST SAID THEY THAT

WORSHIP GOD WORSHIP IN

SPIRIT AND TRUTH FOR GOD IS

A SPIRIT.

WE AREN'T HUNG UP ON LITTLE

CROSSES OR ICONS OR SYMBOLS

OF THAT NATURE.

GOD IS A SPIRIT.

WE COME TO CHURCH AND WE

WORSHIP IN SPIRIT.

AND THE FACT THAT THERE IS

NO CROSS -- WHAT DOES THE

CROSS TELL YOU?

SO, I MEAN, IT JUST ISN'T

SOMETHING YOUR HUSBAND

SHOULD BE HUNG UP ON.

BECAUSE IF HE IS, HE IS

PUTTING HIS MIND ON

NON-ESSENTIALS.

Kristi: BECAUSE THE

CHURCH ISN'T A BUILDING.

IT IS A BODY OF PEOPLE.

Pat: THE CHURCH IS

WHERE PEOPLE COME TOGETHER

TO WORSHIP GOD IN SPIRIT AND

IN TRUTH.

Kristi: "COULD YOU

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT IS THE

SIGNIFICANCE OF 40 DAYS AND

40 NIGHTS IN THE BIBLE.

WE SEE IT REPEATED ALL OF

THE TIME.

FOR EXAMPLE, NOW NOAH AND

THE FLOOD, MT. SINAI, AND

JESUS AFTER THE RESURRECTION."

Pat: FOUR IS THE NUMBER

OF EARTH.

10 IS THE NUMBER OF

COMPLETION.

FOUR TIMES 10 IS A

GENERATION, A TIME OF

COMPLETION.

TEN 40s IS THE TIME THE

ISRAELIS STAYED.

THREE IS THE NUMBER OF THE

TRINITY, AND YOU'VE GOT

THREE PLUS FOUR IS SEVEN,

AND FIVE IS THE NUMBER OF

GRACE -- YOU CAN GET ALL OF

THESE NUMBERS.

THAT'S THE SYMBOL OF THE 40

DAYS, IT'S A GENERATION.

Kristi: GOOD DEAL.

JULIE SAYS, "THE BIBLE SAYS

NOT TO HAVE ANY GRAVEN

IMAGE?

WOULD OUR WEDDING RINGS AND

OTHER PIECES OF JEWELRY FALL

INTO THAT CATEGORY?"

Pat: THEY'RE NOT

IMAGES.

AN IMAGE IS A REPRESENTATION

OF A PERSON.

THERE REALLY WEREN'T

SUPPOSED TO BE ANY STATUES,

I GUESS EVEN PAINTINGS.

IF YOU WANT TO CARRY THIS TO

EXTREME, YOU TAKE ALL OF THE

STATUES OUT AND YOU TAKE ALL

OF THE PAINTINGS OUT.

I DON'T THINK THAT GOD

REALLY IS APPLYING THAT TO

US TODAY.

BUT IT IS SO EASY, YOU KNOW,

IN SOME OF THE CHURCHES, THE

BIG CHURCHES, WHERE THERE IS

A STATUE OF A SAINT, AND

PEOPLE HAVE RUBBED HIS FEET

ALMOST DOWN BECAUSE THEY

THINK THERE IS SOME MAGIC

THERE.

IT IS EASIER TO KNEEL BEFORE

THE STATUE OF THE VIRGIN,

AND YOU THINK YOU'RE PRAYING

TO HER.

OR YOUR STATUE OF JESUS, AND

YOU'RE PRAYING TO HIM.

AND GOD SAID BASICALLY THE

REASON HIS NAME IS "I AM" OR

"HE WHO CAUSES EVERYTHING TO

BE," AND HE DOESN'T WANT TO

BE TIED DOWN.

HE DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY TO

SAY WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE

BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW.

HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY.

HE IS THE GROUND OF BEING,

AND YOU CAN'T MAKE A STATUE

OUT OF BEING.

THAT'S WHY THE COMMANDMENT

IS THERE.

OUR GOD IS A SPIRIT.

AND THEY THAT WORSHIP MUST

WORSHIP IN SPIRIT AND IN

TRUTH.

Kristi: YOU GOT ME

REVVED UP A BIT TOWARDS THE

END.

I WAS ABOUT TO GET A

TAMBOURINE.

I THINK WE'RE DONE, PAT, BUT

ANY TIME YOU WANT TO ASK PAT

A QUESTION, IT IS SO EASY.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOG ON

TO CBN.COM.

I'M SURE THERE IS AN ICON

THERE THAT SAYS, "ASK PAT A

QUESTION."

WHEN A HINDU FARMER NEEDED

CLEAN WATER, HE DECIDED TO

DO SOMETHING RADICAL.

HE PRAYED TO THE CHRISTIAN

GOD FOR HELP.

HERE IS EXACTLY WHAT

HAPPENED NEXT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WHAT

HAPPENED NEXT AND HOW IT

CHANGED AN ENTIRE VILLAGE.

Reporter: RAISING

LIVESTOCK IN THE HILLS OF

NORTHWEST INDIA CAN BE A

VERY DIFFICULT JOB,

ESPECIALLY IF YOU DON'T HAVE

A CLOSE WATER SOURCE.

SOHAN HAD TO WALK TWO MILES

TO GET WATER FOR HIS FAMILY,

CATTLE, AND GOATS.

HE BEGGED HIS HINDDU GODS

FOR HELP, BUT NOTHING

CHANGED.

THEN A LOCAL PASTOR

ENCOURAGED HIM TO PRAY TO

JESUS.

IN MY HEART, I WOULD PRAY

TO JESUS EVERY MORNING,

NOONTIME, AND EVENING, FOR

WATER CLOSE TO MY HOME.

Reporter: IT WASN'T

LONG UNTIL SOHAN SAW HIS

PRAYERS ANSWERED.

CBN LIVING WATERSS TEAM CAME

TO HIS VILLAGE.

THIS WELL IS A BIG

BLESSING TO MY VILLAGE, IT

IS ALSO A BLESSING TO MY

CATTLE AND GOATS.

NOW I

CAN BATHE

THEM AND

GIVE THEM PLENTY OF

WATER TO

DRINK.

I AM SO HAPPY.

Reporter: SOHAN

AND

HILLS FAMILY GAVE THEIR

LIVES TO CHRIST, AND THEY

WEREN'T THE ONLY ONES.

168 OTHER VILLAGERS WERE

BAPTIZED BECAUSE THEY SAW

THE WELL AS A TANGIBLE SIGN

THAT GOD IS REAL

AND

HE

LOVES

THEM.

I BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST IS

THE ONE, TRUE GOD BECAUSE HE

GAVE ME WATER AFTER I PRAYED

FOR A WELL.

MY FAMILY DRINKS WATER FROM

IT AND THEY

ARE

HAPPY

AND AT

PIECE.

WHEN I DIE, I KNOW I WILL BE

IN HEAVEN WITH JESUS

CHRIST.

Kristi: WHAT A GREAT

STORY.

I'M WATCHING THAT STORY AND

I'M THINKING, THIS ONE MAN,

BECAUSE OF HIS FAITHFULNESS,

OTHER MEMBERS WERE BLESSED

BECAUSE OF HIM.

ISN'T THAT THE WAY IT IS?

WHEN WE HONOR THE LORD AND

OBEY, NOT ONLY DOES GOD

BLESS US, BUT SO MANY PEOPLE

ARE WATCHING AND THEY'RE

BLESSED IN TURN.

LISTEN, IF YOU BECOME A "700

CLUB" MEMBER, NOT ONLY WILL

YOU BE BLESSED, BUT YOU'LL

BLESS THE NATION.

WE NEED YOU.

CALL, 1-800-759-0700.

AND DON'T FORGET, "LIFE

BEYOND THE GRAVE, PART TWO"

IS OUR GIFT TO YOU WHEN YOU

BECOME A "700 CLUB"

PARTNER.

PAT?

Pat: THANK YOU.

PRAISE THE LORD.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT FOR TODAY'S PROGRAM.

TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

A SPECIAL TIME OF COMMUNION,

AND WE'RE GOING TO REMEMBER

WHAT IS CALLED MUNDY

THURSDAY.

TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM JESUS FROM

MATTHEW 17: "IF YOU HAVE

FAITH AS A MUSTARD SEED,

NOTHING WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE

FOR YOU."

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

WE INVITE YOU TO CALL WHEN

THE PROGRAM IS OFF THE AIR,

AND THE NUMBER IS

TOLL-FREE.

THANK GOD FOR EVERY ONE OF

YOU.

FOR WENDY AND KRISTI, THIS

IS PAT ROBERTSON.

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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