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The 700 Club - April 8, 2013

Paul's interest in pornography took root early and soon led to a sex addiction that consumed his life. Plus, author Debbie Macomber talks about achieving her goal of becoming an author while struggling with dyslexia. Read Transcript


170 MILLION BOOKS IN PRINT.

FROM AN AUTHOR WHO COULDN'T READ

UNTIL THE FIFTH GRADE.

DEBBIE MACOMBER TALKS ABOUT HER

TRIUMPH OVER DYSLEXIA AND LATEST

CHANNEL HALLMARK MOVIE.

PLUS...

I KEPT A NAME OF ALL THE

LITTLE GIRLS I HAD SEX WITH.

IN HOT PURSUIT OF SEX UNTIL

SOMETHING STOPS IN COLD.

SOMETHING IN HERE SAYING NO.

YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING THIS WOMAN.

PAT: WELCOME LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN TO THIS EDITION OF

"700 CLUB." DELIGHTED TO HAVE

YOU WITH US.

A BUNCH OF LUNATICS IN NORTH

KOREA IS MAKING NOISES, CLOSING

DOWN A VERY NICE PLANT BETWEEN

THEM AND SOUTH KOREA.

FINALLY AFTER ALL THE BELLICOSE

TALKS, CHINA HAS DECIDED TO

WEIGH IN AND SAYING

DESTABILIZING THE NEIGHBORHOOD

ISN'T COOL.

TERRY: THAT IS EXACTLY

RIGHT.

ANOTHER GROUP SPEAKING OUT IS

THE PERSECUTED CHRISTIANS OF

INCOME.

GARY LANE HAS THE STORY.

REPORTER: TWO MAJOR MILITARY

POWERS ARE HOPING TO LIMIT THE

CONFLICT.

CHINA'S NEW PRESIDENT SAID NO

COUNTRY IN ASIA SHOULD BE ABLE

TO THROW THE WHOLE WORLD INTO

CHAOS FOR SELFISH GAIN.

SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM SAYS

UNLIKE IN THE PAST, THIS TIME

SOUTH KOREA WOULD REACT WITH A

PROPORTIONAL RESPONSE.

IF THERE WERE A SOUTH KOREAN

NAVAL VESSEL SUNK THIS YEAR BY

NORTH KOREA, I THINK THE NEW

PRESIDENT OF SOUTH KOREA WOULD

BE COMPELLED TO ACT AND

INCOMEIANS ARE OVERPLAYING THEIR

HAN HANDS

REPORTER: BILL RICHARDSON

SAID THE GOAL HAS TO BE GETTING

NORTH KOREA BACK TO THE

NEGOTIATING TABLE ON NUCLEAR

PROLIFERATION ON

DENUCLEARIZATION

REPORTER: TINY CHRISTIAN

COMMUNITY PERHAPS AS FEW AS

100,000 IN A NATION OF 25

MILLION ARE REQUESTING PRAYER.

THEY ARE POSSIBLY THE MOST

PERSECUTED.

FORCED TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AS

SECRET BELIEVERS, IF DISCOVERED

SENT TO LABOR CAMPS OR KILLED.

THEY HAVE TO PRAY FOR PEACE

IN THEIR REGION AND LORD COME TO

THE HEART OF KIM JONG UN AND

GIVE WISDOM TO THE OFFICIALS IN

SOUTH KOREA AND ANY IMPORTANT

DECISIONS THEY HAVE TO MAKE.

GARY LANE, CBN NEWS.

PAT: I WAS READING TODAY THAT

THE AUNT OF THIS YOUNG MAN SEEMS

TO BE THE REAL POWER BEHIND THE

THRONE.

SHE IS LITTLE LADY, DOMINATING

THE SITUATION.

WHOEVER IS DOING IT, AND YOU

WONDER WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO

ESTABLISH BECAUSE IF THEY ENGAGE

IN MILITARY ACTIVITACTIVITY, THE

NATIONS OF THE EARTH WILL GOING

TO SLAP THEM DOWN.

IT IS LONG, LONG OVERDUE.

HERE IN AMERICA, WE ARE SADDENED

AT THE NEWS OF RICK WARREN'S

CHILD, SON WHO COMMITTED

SUICIDE.

CHRISTIANS ARE MOURNING WITH HIM

OVER THIS

TRAGIC

LOSS.

LEE WEBB HAS THE STORY.

REPORTER: THAT'S RIGHT,

PAT.

RICK WARREN AND FAMILY ASKING

FOR PRAYERS FOLLOWING THE DEATH

OF HIS SON.

CHRISTIANS HAVE BEEN SENDING

MESSAGES OF LOVE AND SUPPORT.

CHARLENE ISRAEL HAS THE STORY.

REPORTER: PASTOR RICK WARREN

AND KAY GIVE THINGS FOR THE

SUPPORT FOLLOWING THE SUICIDE OF

27-YEAR-OLD SON.

WARREN TWEETED TO HIS ONE

MILLION FOLLOWERS, "KAY AND I

ARE OVERWELLED BY LOVE AND

PRAYERS, YOU ARE ENCOURAGING OUR

BROKEN HEART."

MATTHEW TOOK HIS LIFE IN THEIR

HOME.

THE AUTHOR OF THE BEST SELLING

"THE PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE" SAID

HIS SON ENDED HIS LIFE AFTER A

LIFE LONG BATTLE WITH MENTAL

ILLNESS.

CHURCH MEMBERS REMEMBERED

MATTHEW AS A KIND AND GENTLE

SOUL.

HE WAS A TALENTED CREATIVE

SON.

REPORTER: STILL HIS SON

FOUGHT A LONELY BATTLE WITH

DEPRESSION.

ONLY THOSE CLOSE KNEW HE

SUFFERED.

SPITE OF AMERICA'S BEST DOCTORS,

MEDS AND PRAYERS FOR HEALING,

THE TORTURE OF MENTAL ILLNESS

NEVER SUBSIDED SIDE WARREN.

HE MARVELLED AT HIS SON'S

COURAGE DESPITE HIS PAIN.

I'LL NEVER FORGET HOW MANY YEARS

AGO, MATTHEW SAID DAD, I KNOW I

AM GOING TO HEAVEN.

WHY CAN'T I JUST DIE AND END

THIS PAIN?

MILLIONS OF AMERICANS FACE A

SIMILAR FIGHT.

CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL

ESTIMATED AROUND 3.4% OF

AMERICANS SUFFER FROM

DEPRESSION.

ROUGHLY 40,000 PEOPLE COMMIT

SUICIDE EVERY YEAR IN THE UNITED

STATES.

PASTOR WARREN IS ASKING FOR

PRAYERS AND SUPPORT FOR HIS

FAMILY.

A ROLE REVERSAL FOR A MAN THAT

LED PEOPLE THROUGH HARD TIMES.

AT TIMES LIKE THESE THERE ARE NO

WORDS, THERE IS THE WORD.

THERE IS NO MANUAL, BUT THERE IS

EMMANUEL.

GOD IS WITH US.

I KNOW THE LORD WILL BE THERE

FOR ALL OF THE WARREN FAMILY AND

SADDLEBACK CHURCH AS THEY GRIEVE

TOGETHER.

LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT DAY WHEN

GOD WILL RESTORE ALL THINGS.

CHARLENE ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.

REPORTER: FORMER BRITISH

PRIME MINISTER MARGARET THATCHER

DIED AT AGE 87.

SHE WAS THE YOUNGEST WOMAN TO BE

ELECTED TO PARLIAMENT AT 34 AND

BRITAIN'S FIRST FEMALE PRIME

MINISTER.

SHE AND RONALD REAGAN ALLIED TO

BRING AN END TO THE COLD WAR IN

1980S.

SHE WAS OUSTED IN THE 90 AFTER A

POLITICAL STRUGGLE IN HER PARTY.

PAT?

PAT: SHE WAS THE MOST ADMIRED

LEADER, IT WAS ALWAYS MARGARET

THATCHER.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SITTING

NEXT TO HER AT A SMALL DINNER IN

LONDON SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN

SHE HAD BEEN RETIRED AS PRIME

MINISTER.

SHE IS AN EXTRAORDINARY WOMAN.

SHE WAS VERY, VERY FORCEFUL AND

ARROGANT.

I REMEMBER ASKING HER, WHAT

WOULD YOU SUGGEST DOING IN

RUSSIA?

THEY HAVE A REAL PROBLEM.

SHE SAID I WOULD SENT BRITISH

JUDGES AND TEACH THEM ENGLISH

LAW.

[LAUGHTER] YES, MAGGIE, THAT WAS

IT.

ANYHOW, OUR PRAYERS GO OUT TO

THOSE THAT GRIEVE OVER HER

PASSING.

SHE HAS BEEN SUFFERING FROM

DEMENTIA FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

SHE I AM SURE PASSED ON QUIETLY

BUT LEFT A GREAT LEGACY FOR

PEOPLE TO

FOLLOW, LEE?

REPORTER: FIVE CHRISTIANS

DEAD AFTER WEEKEND FIGHTING IN

EGYPT.

A MOB THREW FIRE BOMBS SUNDAY.

ONE BELIEVER TDIED IN THE ATTACK.

THEY GATHERED OUTSIDE ST. MARKS

COPTIC ORTHODOX CATHEDRAL AFTER

THE FUNERAL.

THEY ARGUE THAT THE GOVERNMENT

ISN'T DOING ENOUGH TO PROTECT

THEM.

ISRAELIS PAUSE TO REMEMBER THE

HOLOCAUST, TWO MINUTES, ISRAELIS

REFLICKED.

ISRAELIS PRESIDENT PEREZ SAID

THE THREAT OF THE HOLOCAUST

AGAINST ONE NATION IS AGAINST

ALL NATIONS.

NETANYAHU MADE REFERENCE TO IRAN

WHEN HE SAID THE THREATS TO JEWS

REMAIN.

[ FOREIGN SPEAKING ]

MURDER IS HATRED AGAINST THE

JEWS THAT HAS ACCOMPANIED THE

HISTORY OF OUR PEOPLE HAS NOT

DISAPPEARED.

REPORTER: LESS THAN 200,000

HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS IN ISRAEL,

THAT IS WHY SOME

WORRY THE

MEMORY COULD FADE.

WHITE HOUSE IS MAKING THE CASE

FOR PRESIDENT OBAMA'S BUDGET.

THAT PLAN CALLING FOR MORE NEW

TAXES.

REPUBLICANS WILL NOT GO ALONG

WITH ANOTHER NEW TAX HIKE

AFTER

THE ONE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE

YEAR.

NEW SPENDING FOR EDUCATION AND

PUBLIC WORKS PROJECTS.

SOME DEMOCRATS DO NOT LIKE THE

CUTS THE SOCIAL SECURITY AND

OTHER BENEFIT PROGRAMS, PAT?

PAT: DOESN'T RECEIVE THE

PRESIDENT CAN GARNER SUPPORT IN

HIS OWN PARTY FOR ANYTHING.

LEE, THE THING THAT WORRIES ME

IS ALWAYS CLASS WARFARE.

THERE WAS A PROPOSAL THAT HAS

BEEN BRUTED BY THE WHITE HOUSE

TO BEGIN TO TAX IRA'S, TO INVADE

THE RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS OF

SENIORS.

THOUGHT WOULD BE THAT NOBODY

NEEDED MORE THAN $200,000 A YEAR

IN INCOME IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO

LIVE AND THOSE ACCOUNTS WOULD BE

REDUCED TO THAT AMOUNT.

THIS IS SOCIALISM IN ITS WORST

FORM.

YET, THIS IS THE MINDSET.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING

THAT WILL RAISE REVENUE.

WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT SOMETHING

THAT WILL TRULY BALANCE THE

BUDGET AND BRING ABOUT FISCAL

STABILITY.

WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT IS

SO-CALLED TAX FAIRNESS WHICH

MEANS PUNISHING THOSE THAT ARE

ACHIEVERS IN ORDER TO GIVE IT TO

THOSE THAT ARE NOT SO FORTUNATE.

THAT ISN'T WHAT THE GOVERNMENT

IS INTENDED TO DO.

LEE?

REPORTER: PAT, AN INGREDIENT

IN ENERGY DRINKS AND RED MEAT

MAY INCREASE THE RISK OF HEART

DISEASE.

IT IS CALLED KARENATINE.

I THINK IT IS THE CAUSE FOR

CONCERN.

OUR DATA SUGGESTS THIS IS A RISK

FACTOR FOR ACCELERATED HEART

DISEASE.

KARENATINE IS A

POPULAR

INGREDIENT BECAUSE IT MAY HELP

CONVERT FAT INTO ENERGY.

INTERESTING, PAT.

PAT: IF THESE RESEARCHERS

HAVE THEIR WAY, WE WON'T HAVE

ANYTHING.

TERRY: IT USED TO BE ON THE

LIST OF GOOD STUFF?

PAT: IT IS ONE OF THE FINEST

THINGS FOR YOUR MEMORY.

IT IS A TYPE OF KARENATINE.

IT IS LATIN FOR MEAT.

IT IS DERIVATIVE OF MEAT.

I MUST SAY TERRY, YOUR OLD

VEGETARIAN FRIEND.

I HAD WALNUTS AND OATMEAL.

I AM NOT SURE THE CLEVELAND

CLINICAL WILL PASS THAT FOR

LONG.

IT IS GETTING SO YOU CAN'T EAT

ANYTHING

TERRY: TAX TIME IS JUST A

WEEK AWAY.

HAVE NO FEAR, MEET THE GUY THAT

KNOWS MORE ABOUT THE IRS, FIVE

TIPS RIGHT AFTER THIS.

PAT: IT IS LIKE THE VAMPIRE

MOVIE, THE EVIL FORCES ARE

COMING AFTER YOU.

THE 15TH OF APRIL IS DOOMSDAY.

WE HAVE A BOOK CALLED "IRS

PROBLEM SOLVER"

WRITTEN BY DANIEL POA WHERE

BOOKS ARE SOLD.

IF YOU HAVEN'T FILED TAXES LEFT,

YOU ONLY HAVE A WEEK LEFT!

MORE THAN 25 MILLION TAX PAYORS

COULD FACE IRS AUDITS ASSESSMENT

OR WORSE.

WHAT IF YOU KNEW A FEW STEPS TO

GET RID OF THOSE FEARS.

TAX EXPERT DAN POA IS HERE.

REPORTER: AS AMERICANS

SCRAMBLE TO FILE BEFORE THE

DEADLINE, MILLIONS WILL PAY

UNTOLD BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO

THE GOVERNMENT.

SURPRISINGLY, MONEY THAT MANY

MAY NOT OWE.

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT LOOKS TO

THE INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE AS

A FIRST LINE OF ATTACK IN

BALANCING THE BUDGET.

WITH THE FORMS AND DEDUCTIONS IT

CAN BE OVERWHELMING FOR THE

AVERAGE AMERICAN TO FILE WITHOUT

AN ACCOUNTING DEGREE.

SOME DEDUCTIONS OPTIONS CAN SAVE

YOU MONEY AND ATTRACT UNWANTED

ATTENTION.

FIVE SIMPLE THINGS TO DO BEFORE

APRIL 15TH.

RELEVANT STEP THAT IS COULD SAVE

YOU TIME, MONEY AND A WHOLE LOT

OF PEACE OF MIND.

PAT: MAN WHO KNOWS MORE THAN

THE COMMISSIONER OF THE IRS,

DAN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

GOOD TO BE HERE, PAT.

PAT: WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE KNOW?

COUPLE OF THINGS, MOST

CHRISTIANS ARE TITHING AS THEY

SHOULD BE.

YOU ARE MAKING CHARITABLE

CONTRIBUTIONS THREE AND A HALF

TIMES OF THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

YOU ARE ATTRACTING ATTENTION.

AUDIT-PROOF THAT TAX RETURN.

PROVIDE INFORMATION WITH THE

RETURN THAT ANSWERS ANY

QUESTIONS RAISED IN THE RETURN,

THAT WAY YOU AVOID A FACE TO

FACE AUDIT.

PAT: SEND IT IN WITH THE

RETURN?

USE A DISCLOSURE STATEMENT,

8275 AND THAT ALLOWS YOU TO

PROVIDE INFORMATION WITH THE TAX

RETURN THAT ANSWERS QUESTIONS

RAISED IN THE RETURN AND THAT

WAY YOU INSULATE YOURSELF FROM A

FACE TO FACE AUDIT.

PAT: IF ONE OF THOSE FACELESS

CHECKERS IS CHECKING AND THIS

GUY IS COOL AND LETS YOU GO

THROUGH?

ABSOLUTELY, RIGHT, PLUS OR

MINUS 130 MILLION INDIVIDUAL TAX

RETURNS.

ABOUT 25% OF THE RETURNS CLAIM

TAX DEDUCTIONS.

THE IRS CAN'T LOOK AT ALL OF

THEM.

THEY HAVE TO NARROW DOWN RETURNS

IN OTHER WORDS WHICH ONES CAN WE

MAKE MORE MONEY OF IN THE AUDIT

PROCESS.

IF YOU INFORM THE IRS THEY HAVE

TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GUY.

PAT: WHAT ELSE IN ADDITION TO

CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS?

WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT PROVING

THOSE DEDUCTIONS.

THERE ARE DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED

AND IF YOU MAKE A CONTRIBUTION

OF MORE THAN $250 TO ANY ONE

CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION ON A

ONE-TIME CONTRIBUTION, YOU HAVE

TO HAVE AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT BACK

FROM THE ORGANIZATION.

IT IS REFERRED TO AS A

CONTEMPORARY ACKNOWLEDGMENT.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE

ACKNOWLEDGMENT BEFORE YOU FILE

YOUR TAX RETURN.

PAT: SAY YOU RECEIVE IT

AFTER?

YOU LOSE THE DEDUCTION?

I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE THAT HAVE

GONE BACK A YEAR LATER TO GET

THEIR PAPERWORK IN ORDER.

THE IRS WILL DISALLOW THE

DEDUCTION.

THEY CERTAINLY CAN DO IT.

PAT: ALL THE CHARITIES IF YOU

GIVE $500, THEY NEED TO GIVE YOU

A LETTER, WE THANK YOU, YOU HAVE

GIVEN THE MONEY AND DIDN'T GET

ANYTHING BACK.

IF YOU DID, YOU CAN'T CLAIM A

DEDUCTION EQUAL TO WHAT YOU HAVE

GOTTEN BACK.

PAT: WHAT ABOUT TRAVEL?

IT IS AMOR FIS FOR TRAVELING

BACK AND FORTH, HOW DO YOU PROVE

IT?

THAT IS INTANGIBLE ITEM.

YOU ARE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO

GET A RECEIPT FOR.

OBVIOUSLY IF YOU BUY A PLANE

TICKET OR GET A RECEIPT.

ONLY ONE WAY AND THAT IS WITH

YOUR OWN DETAILED EXPLANATION.

I REFER TO IT AS AN AFFIDAVIT.

IT PROVIDES THE INTANGIBLE

INFORMATION.

PAT: YOU DO AN AFFIDAVIT

ITSELF.

I WENT TO CROCKI KUS BECAUSE I

WANTED TO SELL GRAPEFRUIT.

YOU GO TO A TRADE SHOW IN LAS

VEGAS.

YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE

BUSINESS PURPOSE OF THE TRIP

WAS.

WHY YOU WENT THERE, WHAT THE

NATURE OF YOUR BUSINESS WAS, HOW

THAT TRIP HELPED YOUR BUSINESS

EITHER THROUGH MARKETING OR

THROUGH MAKING CONTACTS WITH

POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS YOU HAVE TO

BE SPECIFIC.

PAT: INCLUDE THAT WITH YOUR

TAXES?

USING THE STRATEGIES I TALK

ABOUT IN THE BOOK, YOU ARE GOING

TO PROVIDE THAT WITH THE RETURN

AND INSULATES THE RETURN.

PAT: I AM A GREAT FAN IN

AUTOMATIC EXTENSION.

IT GETS YOU MORE TIME 4868.

YOU DON'T NEED A REASON, PAT.

IF YOU CAN'T GET IT DONE --

I DON'T HAVE A REASON.

BUT THE THING IS, GET AN

EXTENSION IN TIME TO FILE THE

RETURN.

IT GETS YOU TO OCTOBER 15TH.

THAT IS NOT EXTENSION OF TIME TO

PAY THE TAX.

TAX IS STILL DUE BY APRIL 15TH.

IF YOU ARE A PERSON THAT CAN'T

PAY BY APRIL 15TH.

THERE ARE MILLIONS THAT CAN'T

PAY THEIR TAXES BECAUSE OF THE

FINANCIAL CRISIS, FINANCIAL

CRISIS, LOST JOB, NATURAL

DISASTERS IN THE LAST YEAR, ALL

KINDS OF REASONS WHY PEOPLE ARE

BEHIND FINANCIAL.

THAT FILING EXTENSION 4868 IS

NOT GOING TO HELP YOU.

SECRET THE IRS DOESN'T TALK

ABOUT, THAT IS FORM 1127.

IT IS CALLED APPLICATION FOR

EXTENSION OF TIME TO PAY THE

TAXES.

IF YOU FILE THAT FORM BY APRIL

15TH, YOU CAN GET SIX ADDITIONAL

MONTHS TO PAY THE TAXES WITHOUT

PENALTIES.

PAT: DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A

REASON?

YES, AND YOU HAVE TO

DEMONSTRATE IN THE FORM.

YOU HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU

DID THE THINGS THAT A REASONABLE

PERSON WOULD DO.

BUT DUE TO CIRCUMSTANCES BEYOND

YOUR CONTROL, YOU COULDN'T PAY

ON TIME.

PAT: DAN, ONE OTHER THING YOU

POINT OUT, THE OPPORTUNITY TO

PUT MONEY IN IRA TAX DEDUCTIBLE

BY THE 15TH.

THAT IS THE ONLY THING YOU

CAN DO NOW TO SAVE MONEY FOR

2012 TAXES.

IF YOU MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO A

NEW OR EXISTING IRA BY APRIL

15TH, YOU CAN DESIGNATE TO APPLY

TO THE PRIOR YEAR AND GET A TAX

DEDUCTION FOR 2012.

PAT: OPEN A NEW IRA BEFORE

THE 15TH AND FUND IT OUT OF

2012.

HOW MUCH DO YOU GET NOW?

YOU CAN GET MAXIMUM OF $5,000

IF YOU ARE 50 YEARS OF AGE OR

MORE, THERE IS A CATCH UP

DEDUCTION WHICH IS EXTRA

THOUSAND.

IF YOU ARE 50 OR MORE YEARS OF

AGE, YOU GET $6,000 DEDUCTION.

PAT: AND YOUR SPOUSE GETS

ANOTHER ONE?

IF SHE HAS EARNED INCOME.

PAT: THAT IS A HUGE DEAL.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

PAT: ANYBODY THAT CAN DO IT?

WHAT IS THE CUT OFF?

[LAUGHTER] YOU HAVE TO HAVE

THE CHART IN FRONT OF YOU TO

ANSWER THE QUESTION.

[LAUGHTER].

THERE IS A GRADUATED SCALE AND

JUST DEPENDS ON FILING STATUS

AND AGE AND IF YOU ARE COVERED

BY ANOTHER RETIREMENT POLICY AT

WORK.

ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

IRS PUBLICATION 17-17 AND A

CHAPTER.

PAT: IT IS COMPLICATED.

THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST

PROBLEMS, EVERY YEAR THE

NATIONAL TAX ADVOCATE PRODUCES A

REPORT, NO. 1 ON THE LIST EVERY

SINGLE YEAR, PAT, COMPLEXITY OF

THE TAX CODE.

PAT: I USED TO DO MY TAXES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

IT IS IN THE HANDS OF AN

ACCOUNTING FIRM.

AS I SAID 130 MILLION

INDIVIDUAL TAX RETURNS FILED

EVERY YEAR.

ABOUT 60-65% ARE PREPARED BY A

COMPUTER OR TAX PRO.

FEWER AND FEWER PEOPLE ARE GOING

IT ALONE.

ON THE OTHER HAND, IRS ASSESSES

MORE AND MORE PENALTIES EVERY

YEAR.

LAST YEAR ALONE, HIGHEST YEAR I

HAVE SEEN IN THE 30 PLUS YEARS I

HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO

THIS ISSUE.

MORE THAN 37 MILLION PENALTIES

WERE ASSESSED BY THE IRS AGAINST

INDIVIDUALS AND BUSINESSES.

ONLY 130 MILLION TAX RETURNED

FILED.

ONE OUT OF EVERY FOUR PEOPLE

GETTING HIT WITH A PENALTY.

IRS DOESN'T TELL YOU EVERY

PENALTY CAN BE CANCELLED IF YOU

CAN SHOW YOU HAD REASONABLE

CAUSE FOR WHAT YOU DID THAT YOU

DIDN'T TRY TO CHEAT ON YOUR

TAXES.

PAT: IT IS COMPLICATED.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT IS

WHY EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO

SOMETHING.

DAN HAS WRITTEN A BOOK.

BEST WAY TO GET IT SO TO GO

TO CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT: "IRS PROBLEM SOLVER."

MAN, YOU NEED THAT.

DAN IS THE ONE THAT KNOWS MORE

THAN THE COMMISSIONER!

[LAUGHTER].

DAN THANKS SO MUCH.

GOD BLESS YOU.

TERRY?

TERRY: UP NEXT, A MAN THAT

HAD MORE THAN 100 ONE-NIGHT

STANDS AND KEPT A RECORD TO

PROVE IT.

NEW SOME GUYS HAD TROPHIES.

I KEPT A BOOK WITH THE NAME OF

ALL THE GIRLS I HAD SEX WITH.

TERRY: SEE WHAT FINALLY

STOPPED THIS KAS NOVA IN THE

ACT.

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PAT: THERE ARE STRANGE THINGS

IN THE NEWS.

TODAY I WAS READING A STORY

ABOUT A YOUNG MAN 19 YEARS OLD

WHO CLAIMED HE WAS RAPED BY FOUR

HEAVY SET WOMEN IN TORONTO.

THEY PICKED HIM UP ON A CAR,

DROVE HIM SOME PLACE AND QUOTE

RAPED HIM.

YOU SAY A 19-YEAR-OLD MAN RAPED

BY FOUR WOMEN?

WELL, IT IS STRANGE.

THE GUEST WE HAVE GOT IS AS

STRANGE AS YOU GET.

HE WAS KEEPING SCORE, HE HAS A

BOOK ON HOW MANY WOMEN HE HAD

SEX WITH.

IT CAME TO OVER 100.

PAUL SUBCHECK WAS PROUD OF WHAT

HE HAD DONE.

HIS SPECIALTY, YOU SEE WERE ONE

NIGHT STANDS.

ONE NIGHT HE WAS STOPPED RIGHT

IN THE ACT.

SOME GUYS HAD TROPHIES ON

THEIR WALLS OF PLAYING A SPORT

OF DOING SOMETHING.

MY TROPHY, I KEPT A BOOK WITH A

NAME OF ALL THE GIRLS I HAD SEX

WITH.

THAT WAS MY TROPHY.

REPORTER: PAUL'S TWISTED VIEW

OF WOMEN AND RELATIONSHIPS BEGAN

IN HIS CHILDHOOD.

FRIEND OF MINE HAD A MAGAZINE

OF NAKED PICTURES AND OTHER

STUFF.

THAT CAPTIVATED US.

SHORTLY THERE AFTER I CAN

REMEMBER WANTING TO SEE IT

FIRSTHAND.

I FOUND A LITTLE GIRLFRIEND.

WE WENT INTO A WOOD SHED AND

EXPOSED OURSELVES TO EACH OTHER

REPORTER: HE DELVED MORE INTO

PORN AND HAD SEX.

AFTER HIGH SCHOOL HE JOINED THE

NAVY.

I CAN REMEMBER BEING ON MY

FIRST SHIP.

NO WOMEN AND LOTS OF

PORNOGRAPHY.

WHEN YOU GO TO PORTS WITH

FRIENDS, ALWAYS WHERE IS THE

NEXT GIRL I CAN FIND?

WHAT IS THE NEXT THING I CAN DO

WITH THEM.

REPORTER: WHEN PAUL GOT OUT

OF THE NAVY, HE STARTED GOING TO

CHURCH ON SUNDAYS.

COME MONDAY MORNING, HE WENT

BACK TO HIS WOMANIZING WAYS.

THEN HE MET BARBARA WHO WAS A

SINGLE MOM.

SHE WAS A PROFESSIONAL.

VERY ATTRACTIVE.

VERY BEAUTIFUL.

I WAS LIKE WOW, I WANT TO HAVE

THAT.

HE WAS VERY NICE AND CARING.

I ENDED UP HAVING HIM AROUND

MORE THAN I EXPECTED

REPORTER: THEY MOVED IN

TOGETHER AND GOT ENGAGED.

ONE NIGHT PAUL WAS WATCHING

TELEVISION AND CAME ACROSS "THE

700 CLUB."

HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU

COULD GET TO KNOW GOD AT A

PERSONAL LEVEL AND A

RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS SON,

JESUS.

HE PUT OUT THE GOSPEL AND ASKED

IF WE WANTED TO PRAY.

ABSOLUTELY.

I PRAYED WITH PAT ON TV.

I WAS LIKE GREAT, I DID A GOOD

THING.

I WENT TO BED.

THE NEXT DAY, THERE WAS A LIGHT

AIRY FEELING SOMETHING HAPPENED.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND.

I ALREADY THOUGHT I WAS A

CHRISTIAN.

SOMETHING WAS DIFFERENT.

I CAN REMEMBER GOING TO WORK.

FIRST THING I REMEMBER NOTICING,

I DIDN'T CURSE ANYMORE.

I BOUGHT A BIBLE.

FOR SOME REASON I WANTED TO BUY

ONE.

I DEVOURED IT.

REPORTER: HE DISCOVERED THEIR

LIVE-IN RELATIONSHIP WAS WRONG.

I THOUGHT HE JUST DIDN'T WANT

TO BE WITH ME ANYMORE.

IT WASN'T CONVICTION, HE

STILL STRUGGLED WITH HIS DESIRE

FOR OTHER WOMEN.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST FEARS I

HAD, WAS, IF YOU DO, THIS IS THE

LAST WOMAN YOU CAN EVER HAVE SEX

WITH.

FROM CATHOLICISM, ONCE YOU ARE

MARRIED, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO

JUST BE WITH YOUR WIFE.

THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY.

THAT DROVE ME AWAY FROM HER.

I DIDN'T WANT TO FULLY COMMIT TO

A MARRIAGE WITH HER.

REPORTER: PAUL TOOK A JOB IN

OHIO.

HE FORGOT ABOUT GOD AND HIS

FIANCE AND STARTED LOOKING FOR

SEX.

SOMETHING CHANGED.

THERE WAS A YOUNG LADY THERE

THAT HAD TAKEN AN INTEREST IN.

WE WENT BACK TO HER PLACE.

I HAD EVERY INTENTION ON HAVING

SEX WITH THIS WOMAN.

I COULDN'T DO IT.

I LAID THERE, SHE WAS NAKED NEXT

TO ME.

I COULD MOVE BUT COULDN'T MOVE

TOWARDS HER.

THERE WAS SOMETHING HINDERING HE

FROM MAKING A PHYSICAL ADVANCE

ON THIS WOMAN.

IT WASN'T PHYSICAL.

I COULD STILL MOVE AROUND.

THERE WAS SOMETHING IN HERE,

SOMETHING IN HERE THAT WAS

SAYING NO.

YOU ARE NOT TOUCHING THIS WOMAN.

I THINK IT WAS THE HOLY SPIRIT.

WHEN I TRUSTED CHRIST, I HAD NO

IDEA.

I GOT BACK MY STUFF AND GOT IN

MY CAR AND STARTED DRIVING BACK

TO MY APARTMENT.

AND OF COURSE MY THOUGHTS

IMMEDIATELY GO TOWARDS BARBARA,

MY FIANCE.

HOW COULD I LEAVE HER?

I TOLD HER I WOULD MARRY HER.

HERE I AM OVER HERE.

I BEGAN TO CRY OUT TO GOD LORD,

I AM SORRY.

PLEASE, I WANT TO MAKE THIS

RIGHT.

PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

I WAS READY TO TELL HIM I

WANTED TO BREAK THE ENGAGEMENT.

HE STARTED TELLING ME THINGS

GOING ON WITH HIM AS FAR AS THE

STRUGGLES HE WAS HAVING.

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW HE WAS HAVING

THE STRUGGLES.

I DIDN'T KNOW THE REASON HE WAS

WITH DRAWING.

I KNEW HE WAS.

I HAD NEVER HEARD HIM THAT

REMORSEFUL, MAYBE ONCE HE

STARTED EXPLAINING EVERYTHING TO

ME.

I FELT LIKE MAYBE WE NEEDED TO

MOVE FORWARD

REPORTER: PAUL AND BARBARA

MARRIED OVER THE YEARS THEIR

FAMILY HAS GROWN.

GOD HAS CHANGED ME, HE HAS

CHANGED PAUL.

IT IS LIKE WE ARE DIFFERENT THAN

WE EVER THOUGHT WE WOULD BE BACK

THEN BUT MUCH BETTER.

HE HAS BECOME A WHOLE DIFFERENT

PERSON THAN HE WAS THEN.

I DIDN'T WAKE UP AND SAY I

NEED TO TURN OVER A NEW LEAF.

I TRUSTED CHRIST AS MY SAVIOR.

HE CAME IN AND GAVE ME NEW

DESIRES.

HE DID IT IN SUCH A WAY THAT I

AM VERY THANKFUL FOR.

PAT: WHAT DO YOU WANT IN

LIFE?

WHAT DO YOU WANT?

PAUL HAD AN OBSESSION.

I HAVE SAID ON THIS PROGRAM MANY

TIMES.

I'LL SAY IT AGAIN.

IMAGES INSTILLED IN A YOUNG

BOY'S BRAIN WILL HAVE AN IMPACT

ALL THROUGH THEIR LIVES.

AND PAUL HAD IT.

THAT IS WHAT PORN WILL DO.

IT IS JUST CORROSIVE.

HE COULDN'T GET RID OF IT.

THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF THAT

OBSESSION IS THROUGH JESUS

CHRIST.

AND JESUS CHRIST HAS A WAY OF

HAPPINESS.

YOU SEE, GOD MADE US AS SEXUAL

BEINGS, WHY?

TO BRING FOR GODLY OFFSPRING,

CHILDREN.

TO HAVE STABLE FAMILIES SO

TOGETHER WE MIGHT WORSHIP GOD.

THERE IS NO HIGHER JOY IN LIFE

THAN BEING ABLE TO WORSHIP THE

CREATOR OF THE ONE THAT MADE

YOU.

ANYTHING OTHER THEN THAT IS A

PROVERSION OF WHAT GOD INTENDED

FOR YOU.

HE INTENDED FOR YOU TO BE IN A

FAMILY.

HELP INTENDED FOR YOU TO HAVE

LOVE AND BRING FORTH GODLY

OFFSPRING AND BRING THEM UP IN

THE ADMONITION OF THE LORD.

THAT IS WHAT WILL MAKE YOU

HAPPY.

ANYTHING SHORT OF THAT WILL NOT

MAKE YOU HAPPY.

IT MAY FULFILL A MOMENTARY LUST

OR URGE.

IT WON'T MAKE YOU HAPPY.

IF YOU WANT TRUE HAPPINESS AND

TRUE JOY, I WANT YOU RIGHT NOW

TO PRAY WITH ME.

I WANT YOU TO BOW YOUR HEADS.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

RIGHT NOW, BOW YOUR HEAD IN YOUR

HOME AND HOTEL ROOM, WHEREVER

YOU HAPPEN TO BE.

BOW YOUR HEAD AND PRAY THIS

PRAYER, THESE WORDS AND MEAN

THEM.

SAY THEM WITH ME.

SAY THEM SILENTLY OR OUT LOUD.

JESUS, THAT'S RIGHT, JESUS, YOU

KNOW ME, LORD.

AND I KNOW YOU MADE ME FOR

YOURSELF.

I AM SORRY, LORD, I HAVE GIVEN

MY LIFE OVER TO THE URGES OF MY

FLESH.

I HAVE GIVEN MY LIFE OVER TO

THAT WHICH DOES NOT PLEASE YOU.

NOW LORD AT THIS MOMENT, I ASK

YOU TO FORGIVE ME.

I TURN AWAY FROM THE LUSTS OF

THE FLESH AND I TURN TO THE LIFE

OF THE SPIRIT.

AND I ASK YOU, LORD, COME INTO

MY HEART FILL ME WITH YOURSELF

AND SATISFY IN ME ALL THE

DEEPEST DESIRES OF MY HEART.

THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU HEARD

MY PRAYER AND THANK YOU, LORD

THAT YOU HAVE COME INTO MY

HEART.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, I WANT TO

PRAY FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.

FATHER, TOUCH THOSE WHO PRAYED

AND MAY THE ANOINTING OF THE

HOLY SPIRIT SET THEM FREE FROM

THIS MOMENT ON IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, I WANT TO

GIVE YOU A LITTLE BOOK I HAVE

HERE.

IT IS CALLED "A NEW DAY."

YOU SAY WHAT DO I DO NEXT?

THIS TELLS YOU.

JUST START IT OUT.

THERE IS A CD IN HERE.

COMPACT DISK.

IT HAS A LITTLE BOOKLET.

I'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU FREE.

I WANT YOU TO LIVE FOR THE LORD.

THE LORD'S SPIRIT IS UPON YOU

AND LOVES YOU SETS YOU FREE.

REJOICE IN THE LORD'S LIBERTY.

YOU ARE FREE AS A CHILD OF GOD.

YOU ARE NO LONGER A SLAVE.

YOU ARE FREE.

GIVE ME A CALL, GIVE US A CALL,

EIG

1-800-759-0700.

PLEASE CALL, SAY I PRAYED WITH

PAT, I GAVE MY HEART TO THE

LORD.

FROM THIS MOMENT ON, I AM FREE.

TOLL-FREE NUMBER CLU1-800-759-0700.

TERRY: STILL AHEAD, SHE HAS

WRITTEN SEVEN BEST SELLERS,

DEBBIE MACOMBER JOINS US LATER

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

REPORTER: WELCOME BACK TO

"700 CLUB." U.S. ATTORNEY

GENERAL ERIC HOLDER IS BEING

CALLED AMERICA'S TOP

FACILITATORS OF PORNOGRAPHY.

THE GROUP HAS CREATED DIRTY

DOZEN LIST OF THE TOP PORN

PROBLEM MAKERS.

ATTORNEY HOLDER HAS TAKEN

ACTIONS THAT ALLOWED PORN

INDUSTRY TO THRIVE.

GOOGLES APP STORE.

THE GOAL IS TO BRING AWARENESS

TO THE HARM CAUSED BY AMERICA'S

PORN PANDEMIC.

IT HAS LED TO VIOLENCE,

INCREASED CHILD PORNOGRAPHY AND

SEX TRAFFICKING.

A FIRE DESTROYED A CAMP IN

WESTERN THAILAND.

MORE THAN 2,000 PEOPLE LEFT

HOMELESS BY THE BLAZE.

MANY ARE CHRISTIAN REFUGEES FROM

BURMA.

CBN OFFERED CLOTHES, SHOES AND

COOKING SUPPLIES.

A CHURCH WAS DESTROYED IN THE

FIRE.

CBN IS PLANNING TO PROVIDE TENTS

FOR WORSHIPPERS UNTIL THEY CAN

REBUILD.

GOD HAS INSPIRED HOPE.

YOU CAN FIND OUT MORE BY LOGGING

ON TO CBN.COM/INTERNATIONAL.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK AFTER

THIS.

TERRY: DEBBIE MACOMBER WAS A

STAY AT HOME MOM WITH FOUR

CHILDREN WHEN SHE WROTE HER

FIRST NOVEL.

FOR FIVE YEARS SHE FACED

REJECTION AFTER REJECTION.

SHE NEVER GAVE UP.

NOW SHE HAS MORE THAN 170

MILLION BOOKS IN PRINT.

DEBBIE MACOMBER STRUGGLED

WITH DYSLEXIA AND DIDN'T LEARN

TO READ UNTIL SHE WAS IN FIFTH

GRADE.

STILL SHE NEVER GAVE UP HER

DREAM OF BECOMING A WRITER.

TODAY SHE IS FAMOUS FOR BLOSSOM

STREET BOOK STEER SERIES LATEST

IS CALLED "STARTING NOW."

FANS WILL SEE ONE OF DEBBIE'S

BOOKS COME TO LIFE JUNE FIRST

"CEDAR COVE."

STARRING ANDY MCDOWELL.

THIS WILL KICK OFF A 13 WEEK TV

SERIES AIRING THIS SUMMER.

TERRY: PLEASE WELCOME TO

"THE 700 CLUB" DEBBIE MACOMBER.

THANK YOU

TERRY: YOU WERE DIAGNOSED

WITH DYSLEXIA?

YES, I WAS.

TERRY: YOU HAD CHILDREN OF

YOUR OWN BY THE TIME YOU

REALIZED YOU HAD IT?

I DID.

I THOUGHT I WAS DUMB.

THE THIRD GRADE TEACHER TOLD MY

MOTHER SHE IS NEVER GOING TO DO

WELL.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE A WORD.

THEY SAID I HAD WORD BLINDNESS.

I STRUGGLED ALL THROUGH SCHOOL

AND WAS ONLY WHEN MY OWN

CHILDREN WERE DIAGNOSED THAT I

WAS.

TERRY: HOW DID YOU KEEP THE

DREAM ALIVE WHEN READING HAD TO

BE A CHALLENGE.

HOW DID YOU LOVE WRITING?

I LOVED TELLING STORIES.

THE ONLY WAY I CAN THINK TO

DESCRIBE IT, TERRY, WHEN I WAS A

KID, I WOULD DREAM ABOUT WRITING

BOOKS.

I WOULD THROB WITH JOY.

THERE WAS THAT PASSION GOD

PLANTED IN MY HEART FROM A YOUNG

AGE.

WHEN YOU HAVE THAT KIND OF

BACKGROUND, YOU STRUGGLE ALL

THROUGH SCHOOL, I NEVER TOLD

ANYONE, I KNEW THEY WOULD SAY

YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

YOU ARE A CREATIVE SPELLER, YOU

DON'T GET GOOD GRADES IN

ENGLISH.

IT WAS A HIDDEN DREAM.

YOU FACED REJECTION AFTER

REJECTION.

HOW DID YOU KEEP YOUR HOPE UP?

YOU KNOW, GOD GAVE ME THE

STRENGTH.

I SAID LORD Z YOU GAVE IT TO ME,

YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE IT

THROUGH TO FRUITION.

HE DID!

TERRY: YOU TALK ABOUT GOD

SEEING IT THROUGH FRUITION FOR

YOU.

YOU DIDN'T ALWAYS HAVE A CLOSE

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD, IN

'72 IT STARTED FOR YOU.

IT DID.

A NEIGHBOR LADY INVITED ME TO A

BIBLE STUDY.

THE TEACHING LEADER OUT OF ALL

THE WOMEN CAME UP TO ME AND

INTRODUCED HERSELF SHE SAID MY

NAME IS.

AND IT WAS MY MAIDEN NAME.

IT WAS AS IF GOD WAS SAYING THIS

IS HOME, THIS IS FAMILY.

TERRY: IT IS SAFE.

HOW DOES YOUR FAITH INFLUENCE

YOUR WRITING?

YOU CANNOT SEPARATE A

CHRISTIAN FROM THE AUTHOR.

YOU KNOW.

I DON'T WRITE NECESSARILY

CHRISTIAN BOOKS, BUT I WRITE

FROM A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE.

MY CHARACTERS AREN'T PERFECT.

THEY MAY DO THE WRONG THING, BUT

THEY SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

TERRY: HOW DO YOU COME UP

WITH A CONCEPT FOR WHAT YOU DO.

WE ARE GOING TO TALK IN A

MINUTE, YOU HAVE A BRAND NEW

BOOK.

EVEN AS THIS IS OUT, ARE YOU

ALREADY WORKING ON THE NEXT ONE?

YES.

I AM A STORY TELLER.

I HAD TO DECIDE WHICH STORIES TO

DEVELOP.

THE STORY, THE PREMISE HAS TO BE

PROVOCATIVE.

IT HAS TO BE RELEVANT TO THEIR

LIVES.

IT HAS TO BE REALISTIC.

TERRY: HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE

YOU TO WRITE A BOOK?

IT TAKES AS LONG AS IT TAKES.

ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

THREE MONTHS TO DO THE WRITING.

ALWAYS THE PREP WORK BEFORE AND

AFTER.

TERRY: WE JUST SAW SA PROMO

IN THAT INTRODUCTORY PIECE, YOU

HAVE A BIG EVENT COMING UP WITH

CEDAR COVE SERIES.

THERE IS A VERSE IN SCRIPTURE

EPHESIANS GOD DOES ABOVE BEYOND

AND ASK ANYTHING WE SPEAK.

I NEVER DREAMED I WOULD HAVE A

TV SERIES BASED ON MY STORIES.

STARTING IN THE SUMMER, JULY

20TH.

THEY CHANGED THE DATE TWICE.

[LAUGHTER].

TERRY: ANDY MCDOWELL IS

GOING TO BE IN THIS.

WONDERFUL ACTRESS.

HOW INVOLVED ARE YOU?

ONCE THEY BUY THE DO, DO THEY

KEEP YOU THERE?

I AM AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER, I

GET TO READ AND APPROVE ALL OF

THE SCRIPTS.

I HAVE DONE A COUPLE OF SITE

VISITS.

HALLMARK PEOPLE ARE AMAZING TO

WORK WITH.

I FEEL VERY BLESSED.

TERRY: YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK

OUT, YOU WANT TO GET A HOLD OF

THIS, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT

AREN'T, THIS IS CALLED "STARTING

NOW."

WHEN YOU WRITE A BOOK, HOW MUCH

IS BASED ON YOUR LIFE?

YOU CAN'T ESCAPE, THE AUTHOR

IS VERY MUCH PRESENT.

I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING

PROVOCATIVE AND RELEVANT.

IN THIS STORY, IT IS ABOUT

SECOND CHANCES.

WE SERVE A GOD OF SECOND, THIRD,

FOURTH CHANCES.

GOD SENDS THEM WHAT THEY NEED,

NOT WHAT THEY WANT.

[LAUGHTER].

THERE IS THE MESSAGE THERE,

ISN'T IT?

TERRY: THIS IS A LADY WHO IS

A KNITTER.

YOU HAVE TWO LOVES, YOU USE YOUR

KNITTING.

KNITTERS BY NATURE ARE

GENEROUS PEOPLE.

IT IS AN AMAZING DEPARTMENT OF

WORLD VISION.

WE ARE KNITTING FOR KIDS ALL

OVER THE WORLD.

TERRY: WHAT A GREAT IDEA.

DEBBIE'S LATEST BOOK IS CALLED

"STARTING NOW."

AVAILABLE WHERE BOOKS ARE SOLD,

IT WILL BE ON EVERY GREAT LIST.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.

NICE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

WHAT AN INSPIRATION.

THANK YOU, TERRY.

TERRY: WHEN WE COME BACK, WE

ARE GOING TO BRING IT ON, BREE

ASKS, HOW DO I WITNESS TO MY

BROTHER WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN

GOD, THE BIBLE, OR JESUS AT ALL?

WHERE DO I START?

SIT TIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE

A AN ANSWER COMING RIGHT UP.

B@@B

TERRY: MANY OF YOU SENT IN

E-MAIL QUESTIONS, WE WANT TO

ANSWER SOME OF THOSE.

THIS FIRST ONE, PAT, FROM MARIE.

HOW DO I BEGIN TO WITNESS TO MY

BROTHER THAT DOESN'T BELIEVE IN

JESUS.

PAT: YOUR LIFE IS THE

TESTIMONY.

YOU HAVE SOMETHING BETTER.

MAY TAKE A TRAGEDY BEFORE HE

BEGINS THERE IS SOMETHING MORE.

PRAY FOR HIM.

DON'T BE TRYING TO PUSH RELIGION

AND PUSH JESUS AND PUSH THE

BIBLE ALL THE TIME.

JUST PRAISE THE LORD, LIVE --

WHEN HARD TIMES COME TO YOU, YOU

HAVE AN OVERCOMING SPIRIT.

HE'LL SAY THERE IS SOMETHING YOU

HAVE.

YOUR LIFE WILL BE THE WITNESS,

NOT WHAT YOU SAY.

TERRY: SUSAN SAYS I HAVE A

QUESTION ABOUT THE SECOND

COMING, WILL I BE IN HEAVEN

WITHOUT HIM?

I WAS EXCITED I WOULD BE WITH

THE LORD, HE IS COMING BACK TO

THE EARTH, WILL I HAVE TO GO

BACK TO EARTH, TOO OR REMAIN IN

THE SPIRITUAL FORM AFTER WE DIE,

THIS IS CONFUSING.

PAT: YOUR QUESTION IS

CONFUSING TO SAY THE LEAST.

[LAUGHTER].

HERE IS WHAT WE UNDERSTAND.

THE BODIES WE HAVE IN A SENSE

SLEEP IN THE GROUND UNTIL THE

LORD'S RETURN.

HE SAID TO THE THIEF ON THE

CROSS, THIS DAY YOU'LL BE WITH

ME IN PARADISE.

SO THE SPIRIT WOULD BE WITH THE

LORD IN PARADISE AS I UNDERSTAND

IT.

BUT THERE IS A TIME THAT IS

CALLED RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD.

THOSE WHO SLEEP, THOSE OF US

ALIVE WILL NOT GO BEHIND THOSE

THAT SLEEP.

THEY'LL ALL BE RESURRECTED

TOGETHER.

WE WILL MEET THE LORD IN THE

AIR.

HE'LL BE COMING BACK AND

RESURRECTION WILL BE THERE TO

MEET HIM FOREVER BE WITH THE

LORD.

SO DON'T WORRY, WHEREVER HE IS,

THAT IS WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO

BE.

TERRY: YES.

THIS IS DEEGO SAYS I WAS PUT

WITH SOMEONE THAT IS NOT A

CHRISTIAN.

I SPOKE WITH MY MANAGER TO SEE

IF I CAN MOVE TO ANOTHER GROUP.

I WAS TOLD THE PERSONNEL WOULD

MAKE NO CHANGES.

EVERY TIME I TRY TO MAKE THIS

MAN SEE THE LIGHT, WHAT SHOULD I

DO?

PAT: DON'T CAST YOUR PEARLS

BEFORE SWINE.

IF YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF PIGS AND

YOU HAVE PRICELESS PEARLS AND

THROW THE PEARLS OUT TO THE

PIGS, THEY ARE LOOKING FOR CHEST

NUTS OR SOME OTHER KIND OF NUT

AND GET A PEARL AND CHEW ON IT

AND DOESN'T TASTE GOOD THEY WANT

TO STICK YOU WITH YOUR TUSKS,

DON'T TAKE PRECIOUS THINGS AND

PASS THEM OUT TO A SCOFFER.

LIVE YOUR LIFE.

DON'T FORCE IT.

BE NATURAL.

YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY LET ME

TELL YOU ABOUT JESUS.

HE LAUGHS.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT GOD DID AND

HE LAUGHS.

FORGET IT.

DON'T CAST YOUR PEARLS BEFORE

SWINE.

HE'LL TURN AND REND YOU.

LISTEN TO THE LORD.

TERRY: IT IS LIKE WHAT YOU

SAID ABOUT THE BROTHER, LIVE IT

OUT.

PAT: LIVE YOUR LIFE BEFORE

HIM.

LET IT GO.

TERRY: THIS IS A VIEWER THAT

SAYS I WAS TALKING TO THE FRIEND

ABOUT TITHES SHE ASKED ME WHERE

IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY YOU

HAVE TO GIVE 10%.

I CAN'T FIND IT IN THE BIBLE,

PLEASE HELP.

PAT: WE GET QUESTIONS WHERE

IN THE BIBLE.

LET ME RECOMMEND YOU GET

CONCORDANCE.

YOU CAN LOOK THEM UP YOURSELF.

SYSTEM OF TITHING, TO GIVE A

TENTH.

YOU FIND IT IN GENESIS, YOU FIND

IT IN LEVITICUS, NUMBERS,

DEUTERONOMY.

YOU FIND IT IN OTHER PARTS OF

THE OLD TESTAMENT.

A SYSTEM INVOLVED IN CARING FOR

THE RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT IN

ISRAEL INVOLVED GIVING 10%.

TITHES OVER AND ABOVE THAT.

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT

SOMETHING, MALACHI THIRD

CHAPTER, GOD SAYS YOU HAVE

ROBBED ME WITH TITHES AND

OFFERINGS BRING THEM INTO THE

STOREHOUSE, PROVE ME IF I WON'T

POUR YOU OUT SUCH A BLESSING YOU

CAN'T CONTAIN IT.

AS CHRISTIANS, ARE WE OBLIGATED

TO TITHE?

NO.

WE BELONG TO JESUS.

THAT MEANS EVERYTHING WE HAVE IS

HIS!

HE MAY WANT 90% AND YOU KEEP 10.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT THE LORD

TELLS YOU TO DO.

YOU ARE HIS, YOUR PROPERTY IS

HIS.

THAT IS THE CONCEPT.

IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT THE

SYSTEM OF TITHING, GO CAREFULLY

INTO THE OLD TESTAMENT AND READ

THOSE VARIOUS BOOKS I TOLD YOU

ABOUT.

APPARENTLY THAT IS THE TIME.

TERRY: ALL THE TIME WE HAVE

GOT.

PAT: THANKS FOR THOSE

QUESTIONS.

TOMORROW, FINAL FOUR COVERAGE

YOU WON'T SEE ANYWHERE ELSE!

MICHIGAN?

TERRY: I THINK MAYBE SO.

PAT: AND LOUISVILLE.

TERRY: I AM GOING BEYOND.

PAT: TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM JESUS: I COME

THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE LIFE AND

HAVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY, SEE YOU

TOMORROW, BYE-BYE!

[APPLAUSE]

REPORTER: TOMORROW, WELCOME

TO THE DEAD ZONE.

A PLACE WITH NO SCHOOLS ARE

HOSPITALS, DECAYING BUILDINGS

AND RAMPED CRIME, ALL INSIDE A

MAJOR AMERICAN CITY.

PLUS A SIDE OF TV ANCHOR DARRIAN

ALEXANDER, AWARD WINNING

JOURNALIST SHOWS OFF HER CHEF

SKILLS AND FINAL FOUR COVERAGE

YOU WON'T SEE ANYWHERE ELSE ON

TOMORROW'S "700 CLUB."

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