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700 Club Interactive: Jesus is __? - April 25, 2013

Who is Jesus? City Church pastor Judah Smith talks about the many definitions we give Jesus and who He really is. Read Transcript


Gordon: HE HAS MILLIONS

OF FANS ON Facebook, AND

HAS AUTHORED THE

BEST-SELLING BOOK OF ALL

TIME.

CAN WE LITERALLY BUILD A

CHURCH WHERE PEOPLE BELONG

BEFORE THEY BELIEVE.

YOU LOOK AT THE LIFE AND

MINISTRY OF JESUS, AND HE

SEEMED TO BE VERY

COMFORTABLE ABOUT VERY

BROKEN, HURTING PEOPLE.

Gordon: THE TRUTH

BEHIND HISTORY'S MOST

CONTROVERSIAL FIGURE, ON

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INTERACTIVE."

ON "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE,"

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WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

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*

Gordon: WELCOME TO THE

PROGRAM, AND THANKS FOR

JOINING US.

JUSTIN BIEBER IS ONE OF THE

BIGGEST CELEBRITIES IN THE

WORLD.

HE SOLD A LOT OF ALBUMS.

HE HAS GOT PAPARAZZI THAT

FOLLOW EVERY SINGLE MOVE.

THEY FIND OUT WHAT HE SIGNED

IN THE ANN FRANK BOOK, AND

HE IS WATCHED.

AND BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE

PRESSURE ON HIS SHOULDERS,

HE HAS REACHED OUT TO PASTOR

JUDITH SMITH FOR HELP.

LIKE BIEBER, SMITH

UNDERSTANDS THE POWER OF THE

MEDIA, AND HE IS USING IT TO

PUT A NAME EVEN MORE FAMOUS

THAN BIEBER'S BACK INTO THE

LIMELIGHT.

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JESUS IS MY STRENGTH.

JESUS IS MORE THAN

ENOUGH.

JESUS IS PEACE.

JESUS IS CREATIVE.

JESUS IS AN ARTIST.

JESUS IS OUT OF THIS

WORLD.

JESUS IS MY RESTORING.

JESUS IS...

Gordon: PLEASE WELCOME

THE CREATOR OF THIS

WONDERFUL CAMPAIGN, PASTOR

AND AUTHOR JUDA SMITH.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Gordon: HOW DID YOU

BECOME JUSTIN BIEBER'S

PASTOR?

WELL, IT WAS ACTUALLY

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, WHEN I

WAS YOUNG, SPEAKING IN

TORONTO, CANADA, AND JUSTIN

WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD AT THE

TIME, WITH HIS MOM AT THE

CONFERENCE.

AND LIKED WHAT I HAD TO SAY

AND BOUGHT A COUPLE OF THE

TAPES.

AND SHE WOULD PLAY THE TAPES

FOR JUSTIN WHEN HE WENT TO

SLEEP AT NIGHT.

AND SO ABOUT SEVERAL YEARS

AGO NOW, PATTY, HIS MOM,

CALLED ME AND I MET UP WITH

JUSTIN AT A CONCERT, AND HE

SAID, DO YOU REMEMBER

MEETING ME?

AND I SAID, NO, I DON'T.

AND HE SAID, YOU PUT ME TO

SLEEP AT NIGHT.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT EVERY

PREACHER WANTED TO HEAR, BUT

THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.

Gordon: DOES THAT MAKE

YOU A "BELIEBER"?

I GUESS SO.

Gordon: TELL US ABOUT

THE JESUS CAMPAIGN.

WHY DID YOU START IT?

WE STARTED IT IN SEATTLE,

WASHINGTON, AND STARTED IT

WITH THE PREMISES IF WE

COULD GET JESUS ON THE MINDS

OF SEATTLEITES, THAT WOULD

BE ONE OF THE ROADS TO

TRANSFORMATION AND KNOWING

JESUS IN A REAL WAY.

THAT WAS OUR WHOLE HEART AND

PASSION, AND IT HAS TAKEN

OFF QUITE A BIT.

Gordon: YOUR CAMPAIGN

HAS CAUSED A STIR EVEN IN

THE PORN INDUSTRY AND ON

ATHEISTS' WEBSITES.

HOW DO THEY FILL IN THE

BLANK ON JESUS IS?

WELL, IF YOU GO TO THE

SITE, IT IS PRETTY

INTERESTING HOW SOME OF THE

BLANKS ARE FILLED IN.

BUT WE WERE PRETTY BLOWN

AWAY THAT, YOU KNOW, SOME

VERY WELL-KNOWN PORN SITES,

IS WHAT I'M TOLD, AS WELL AS

SOME OF THE MOST FORMIDABLE

LEADING ATHEISTS' WEBSITES

THOUGHT IT WAS VERY

COMPELLING AND PROVOCATIVE,

THE WHOLE BLANK THERE.

AND SO THEY PUT LINKS TO OUR

WEBSITE WHERE THE BLANK IS

AVAILABLE FOR ANYONE AND

EVERYONE TO FILL IN KIND OF

THEIR FEELINGS.

WE'VE HAD TO, OBVIOUSLY,

EDIT A BIT OF CONTENT, BUT

WE TRIED TO LEAVE IT AS RAW

AS WE POSSIBLY COULD AND

CAN, AND AS A RESULT, OUR

WHOLE PASSION IS NOT JUST TO

ENGAGE BELIEVERS, BUT ALSO

TO ENGAGE-SEEKERS.

I THINK IT IS EXCITING THEY

HAVE TAKEN NOTICE.

Gordon: I THINK ONE OF

THE THINGS MAYBE THE CHURCH

HAS LOST SIGHT OF, ONE OF

THE PHRASES YOU CAN USE FOR

JESUS IS, JESUS IS A FRIEND

OF SINNERS, AND TRYING TO

REACH OUT TO THEM.

HAVE WE BECOME SCI KIND OF

LIKE THE PHARISEES, HOW THE

PHARISEES COULDN'T HANDLE

JESUS BEFRIENDLY ZIKIAS AND

THE TAX COLLECTORS, AND THEY

COULDN'T HANDLE HIM REACHING

OUT TO IMMORAL WOMEN.

HAVE WE BECOME THE SAME

WAY?

I CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF,

AND SADLY TO ANSWER THAT

YEAH, AND I HAVE DEFINITELY

STRUGGLED WITH THAT,

INSULATING MYSELF, JUST,

FRANKLY, UNCOMFORTABLE WITH

PEOPLE WHO DON'T CLAIM

CHRIST AS THEIR SAVIOR, AND

UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THEIR

ACTIONS.

AND YOU LOOK AT THE LIFE AND

MINISTRY OF JESUS, AND QUITE

THE OPPOSITE.

HE SEEMED TO BE VERY

COMFORTABLE AROUND BROKEN

PEOPLE.

NOT THAT HE CONDONED THEIR

ACTION, BUT HE LOVED THEM

AND HAD COMPASSION.

CERTAINLY THE JOURNEY OUR

CHURCH IS ON, CAN WE

LITERALLY BUILD A CHURCH

WHERE THEY CAN BELONG BEFORE

THEY BELIEVE, AND BELIEVE

BEFORE THEY BEHAVE.

BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE IF YOU

BELONG, YOU BELIEVE, AND

THEN YOU BEHAVE, AND NO

DOUBT YOUR BEHAVIOR WILL

CHANGE.

OFTENTIMES A LIFESTYLE DOES

NOT CHANGE BEFORE THERE IS A

SENSE OF WELCOMING AND LOVE

AND COMPASSION.

AND I THINK PERSONALLY --

AND I KNOW EVEN COLLECTIVELY

AS A COMMUNITY IN SEATTLE,

THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE

REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT AND

ENDEAVORING TO LIVE MORE AND

MORE EVERY DAY.

Gordon: I KNOW IN MY

OWN LIFE, I SOMETIMES WONDER

AM I LIVING IN SOME KIND OF

STRANGE CHRISTIAN BUBBLE.

I HAVE MY HOME LIFE, WHERE I

WANT TO PROTECT MY KIDS FROM

THE MEDIA AND THEN I GET

INTO THE BUBBLE OF MY CAR,

AND I DRIVE TO WORK AND I

WORK WITH A BUNCH OF

CHRISTIANS.

SO I JUST TEND TO STAY IN A

CHRISTIAN BUBBLE.

BUT JESUS DIDN'T DO THAT.

HE WENT OUT OF HIS WAY, AND

HE WOULD EVEN CROSS THE SEA

OF GALILEE TO GO FIND A

DEMONIAC, JUST FOR THAT ONE

MAN HE MADE THE JOURNEY SO

HE COULD REACH OUT AND TOUCH

HIM AND CHANGE HIM.

HOW WOULD YOU ENCOURAGE

CHRISTIANS TO AVOID THE

BUBBLE AND REALLY TRANSFORM

YOUR LIFE INTO ON A

DAY-TO-DAY BASIS YOU'RE

REACHING OUT?

IT IS A PROFOUND

QUESTION, AND ONE THAT I'M

CERTAINLY CONSIDERING EVERY

DAY.

I REALLY DO THINK IT STARTS

WITH THE PEOPLE IN YOUR

WORLD.

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS

SOMETIMES, LIKE YOU SAID,

THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN OUR

WORLD, AS WE SEE IT, ARE

JUST PEOPLE WHO THINK LIKE

US, ACT LIKE US, TALK LIKE

US.

BUT IT CAN BE A BARISTA, IT

COULD BE A CHECKER AT YOUR

FAVORITE GROCERY STORE.

THAT'S SOMEONE YOU SEE ON A

REGULAR OR SEMI-REGULAR

BASIS.

AND JUST GOING OUT OF YOUR

WAY, AND IT IS REALLY NOT

THAT DIFFICULT TO ENGAGE

THEM.

ASK THEIR NAME.

ASK THEIR INTERESTS.

HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY?

DEVELOP AT LEAST THE

BEGINNINGS OF A

RELATIONSHIP.

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL

LIKE WELL, PARTICULARLY

PASTORS AND LEADERS, AND

PEOPLE IN CHRISTIAN

ORGANIZATIONS FEEL LIKE, WHO

WILL I BIEN FRIEND,

BEFRIEND, AND WHO COULD I

EVEN KNOW?

WHERE, IN FACT, WE'RE IN

CONTACT WITH PEOPLE EVERY

DAY.

AND IT IS OPENING OUR EYES

AND GOING, WAIT A MINUTE,

THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY,

POSSIBLY A DEFINE

OPPORTUNITY HERE, WHETHER IT

IS AT STARBUCKS OR WAL-MART

OR WHEREVER.

GOD HAS PUT ME HERE AS A

MISSIONARY.

I DON'T HAVE TO GO TO A

FOREIGN COUNTRY TO BE A

MISSIONARY.

I'M A MISSIONARY RIGHT HERE

IN MY CURRENT CONTACTS.

AND I THINK THAT'S MAYBE

WHERE IT STARTS.

Gordon: HOW AMERICA HAS

BECOME A MISSION DESTINATION

FOR A LOT OF CHURCHES

OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES,

AND THEY'RE SENDING

MISSIONARIES.

SO I GUESS SENDING OURSELVES

WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.

IN YOUR BOOK YOU WRITE

"GRACE IS MESSY."

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

WELL, IT'S A -- GRACE IS A

JOURNEY.

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS THAT

IT'S PROCESS.

YOU LOOK AT JESUS' LIFE AND

MINISTRY.

AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK

MUCH FURTHER THAN THE 12

GUYS THAT HE CHOSE.

FOR INSTANCE, PETER, WHICH

IS ONE OF THE DISCIPLES WE

KNOW MOST ABOUT.

PETER WAS A BIT OF A WRECK.

PETER WAS A WORK IN

PROGRESS.

PETER HAD A LOT OF ISSUES.

ONE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ANGER.

ANOTHER ONE MIGHT BE

CUSSING, AND YET BECAUSE OF

GOD AND WHO HE IS, OR THE

ESSENCE OF GOD, THE ESSENCE

OF GOD IS GRACE, GRACE AND

TRUTH.

THERE WAS GOD IN THE PERSON

OF JESUS, WHO WAS WILLING TO

JOURNEY WITH PETER, AND NOT

CUT PETER OFF, NOT CUT PETER

OUT, BECAUSE OF HIS FAULTS

AND HIS WEAKNESSES, BUT

REALIZED THAT PETER WAS ON A

PROCESS AND A JOURNEY.

I THINK AS OUR COMMUNITIES

AND AS CHRISTIANS, IF WE'RE

REALLY COMMITTED TO THE

GOSPEL, THE GOOD NEWS OF

GRACE, WE HAVE TO RECOGNIZE

THAT PEOPLE ARE ON A JOURNEY

AND A PROCESS.

AND EVERYBODY IS AT A

DIFFERENT PLACE.

EVERYBODY IS AT A DIFFERENT

STAGE.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

I'VE BEEN CHALLENGED ON

PERSONALLY.

I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF

SPEAKING IN DIFFERENT

PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND EACH

PERSON IS AT A DIFFERENT

PLACE IN THEIR RELATIONSHIP

WITH GOD.

ONE MIGHT BE DEALING WITH

MAYBE NOT USING AS MANY

EXPLICIT WORDS, AND ANOTHER

MAY BE DEALING WITH GOING

FROM 30 MINUTES OR SO A DAY

WITH THE LORD, AND GROWING

THAT.

EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US ARE

ON A JOURNEY.

AND THAT'S WHY FLAT RULES

WILL FAIL US.

IF WE DON'T REALIZE IT IS

MORE THAN RULES.

THERE HAS TO BE GRACE, AND

MOST IMPORTANTLY, A REAL,

VITAL RELATIONSHIP WITH A

LIVING PERSON, WHO'S NAME IS

JESUS, WHO WILL HELP US AT

WHATEVER STAGE AND STEP

WE'RE ON IN OUR PROCESS WITH

HIM.

Gordon: JUDA, HOW DO

YOU FILL IN THE BLANK, JESUS

IS...FOR YOU?

LONG SUFFERING.

LONG SUFFERING.

HE HASN'T FAILED ME OR LEFT

ME YET, AND HE HAS HAD EVERY

REASON TO.

Gordon: THANK YOU FOR

BEING WITH US, AND THANKS

FOR TAKING THE TIME.

THANK YOU.

Gordon: FOR MORE

INFORMATION ON JUDA'S

CHURCH, GO TO

700clubinteractive.com, AND

HIS BOOK "JESUS IS," IS

AVAILABLE NATIONWIDE.

THEY'RE ADULTS NOW, BUT THEY

STILL REMEMBER HOW

"SUPERBOOK" MADE A

DIFFERENCE IN THEIR LIVES.

HERE THEIR STORIES RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Gordon: IN 1981, CBN

DEVELOPED "SUPERBOOK" TO

REACH YOUNG PEOPLE WITH THE

BIBLE.

AND MILLIONS OF CHILDREN

HAVE GROWN UP ON THIS

ANIMATED SERIES.

HERE IS HOW IT INFLUENCED

THE LIVES OF THREE OF THEM

27 YEARS LATER.

HEATHER BOYD, CALEB, AND WES

HAVE TWO THINGS IN COMMON:

FIRST AS KIDS, THEY LOVED

WATCHING CBN'S ANIMATED

TELEVISION SERIES,

"SUPERBOOK."

THE WHOLE SERIES, ALL OF

IT, AND I WOULD SIT AND

WATCH THREE OR FOUR TAPES AT

A TIME BECAUSE IT WAS SO

EXCITING.

AND I WOULD SAY, WHAT

HAPPENS NEXT?

WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I WOULD KEEP WATCHING

AND KEEP WATCHING AND KEEP

WATCHING UNTIL IT WAS TIME

TO GO TO BED.

I STILL HAVE THAT MEMORY

OF ME PULLING MY LITTLE

STOOL OVER, SITTING DOWN AND

JUST WAITING FOR "SUPERBOOK"

TO TAKE ME BACK AND REALLY

UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON

IN THE BIBLE.

AND I JUST REALLY THINK THAT

THAT LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR

ME.

YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY, MY

MOM WOULD TAKE ME TO SUNDAY

SCHOOL, AND THE SUNDAY

SCHOOL TEACHERS WERE AMAZED,

I ALREADY KNEW ALL OF THE

STORIES.

I ALREADY KNEW THE STORIES

OF MOSES AND GIDEON AND ALL

OF THOSE BIBLE PATRIARCHS,

AND IT IS BECAUSE OF

"SUPERBOOK."

Reporter: ALL THREE SAY

THEY BUILT THEIR FAITH ON

THE BIBLICAL FOUNDATION THEY

GOT FROM WATCHING

"SUPERBOOK," WHICH WAS

CREATED BY CBN IN THE

1980s TO TEACH CHILDREN

THE BIBLE IN A NEW AND FUN

WAY.

IT WAS A HUGE SUCCESS.

AND IN JUST A FEW YEARS,

"SUPERBOOK" BECAME AN

INTERNATIONAL PHENOMENON.

IT IS FANTASTIC

TELEVISION.

IT JUST GIVES KIDS THE SOLID

FOUNDATION, A GOOD

FOUNDATION WITH WHICH TO

LEARN THE BIBLE.

NOT JUST THAT, THEY'RE

GETTING OTHER SORT OF

LESSONS OUT OF THE PROCESS

AS WELL.

Reporter: AND NOW CBN

IS TRANSFORMING THE SERIES

FOR THE 21st CENTURY.

USING THE LATEST IN 3D

ANIMATION, THE CHARACTERS

COME ALIVE FOR TODAY'S MEDIA

SAVVY KIDS.

AND GUESS WHAT?

THE SECOND THING THAT CALEB,

HEATHER, AND WES HAVE IN

COMMON?

ALL THREE ARE NOW WORKING AT

CBN, HELPING TO BRING

"SUPERBOOK" TO A NEW

GENERATION.

IT IS HAS THE COOL

FACTOR.

IT IS AS COOL AS TOY STORE

OR THE MODERN ANIMATIONS

THAT ARE OUT RIGHT NOW.

WE DON'T WANT TO WATCH

ANYTHING THAT IS NOT UP TO

THE SAME PAR.

I'M JUST EXCITED, HOWEVER

SMALL OR BIG MY PART IS --

I'M JUST EXCITED TO BE

GIVING BACK TO IT WHEN IT

MEANT SO MUCH TO ME AS A

CHILD.

YOU HOPE THAT THE KIDS

WHO ARE TODDLERS NOW WILL

SAY, I REMEMBER

"SUPERBOOK."

IT WAS A GREAT FOUNDATION

FOR ME TO LEARN.

Gordon: "SUPERBOOK," WE

WANT 300 MILLION CHILDREN TO

WATCH THAT SERIES.

AND WE'RE LAUNCHING IT THIS

YEAR.

WE HAD OUR FIRST

INTERNATIONAL BROADCAST IN

MEXICO.

A MILLION PEOPLE WATCHED IT

THROUGHOUT MEXICO ON EASTER

WEEKEND.

AND YOU CAN BE A PART OF

IT.

AND WHEN YOU JOIN WITH US

AND BECOME A PART OF

SUPPORTING "SUPERBOOK," WE

WANT TO SEND YOU THE LATEST

EPISODES.

WE JUST LAUNCHED INTO SEASON

TWO WITH THE STORY OF

JONAH.

WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO

IS JOIN THE "SUPERBOOK"

D.V.D. CLUB.

THAT MEANS EVERY TIME A NEW

EPISODE COMES OUT, WE'LL

SEND IT RIGHT TO YOU.

NOT JUST ONE COPY, BUT WE'LL

SEND YOU THREE.

SO YOU CAN SHARE IT WITH

FRIENDS, WITH FAMILY, WITH

YOUR CHURCH.

WE WANT TO GET THE STORIES

OUT SO YOU CAN BE A PART OF

DISTRIBUTING IT.

AND WE'LL CHARGE YOUR CREDIT

CARD $25.

THAT'S THE DEAL.

SO JOIN WITH US, AND JOIN

THE "SUPERBOOK" D.V.D.

CLUB.

CALL US, 1-888-777-1999.

BE PART OF BRINGING THE

STORIES OF THE BIBLE TO A

WHOLE NEW GENERATION IN A

WAY THAT THEY'LL LOVE TO SEE

AND LOVE TO BE A PART OF.

SO DO IT NOW.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GET

CAUGHT UP IN THE EPISODES

THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN

RELEASED, SEASON ONE, ALL

YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO TO

cbn.com, AND THERE IS A

PLACE THERE WHERE YOU CAN

ORDER THE BACK EPISODES.

STILL AHEAD, A YOUNG MAN

WITH EXTRAORDINARY

ABILITIES.

ALL OF THEM NEARLY COST HIM

HIS LIFE, RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Gordon: WHEN JIMMY

MERRILL WAS A YOUNG BOY, HE

WAS HIT WITH A POWER UNLIKE

HE HAD EVER FELT BEFORE.

HE SPENT THE NEXT FEW YEARS

SEARCHING FOR THE SAME

POWER, AND THE YEARS AFTER

THAT HAUNTED BY A DIFFERENT

ONE.

Reporter: JIMMY MERRILL

GREW UP IN A TURBULENT HOME,

FILLED WITH DRUGS AND

STRANGERS.

BUT AFTER HIS MOTHER GOT FED

UP, SHE LEFT AND TOOK JIMMY

WITH HER.

IT WAS A WHOLE NEW

BEGINNING.

IT WAS A NEW FAMILY.

EVERYTHING WAS BRAND NEW.

SO THIS FIRST SUMMER THAT WE

MOVED IN, I WAS REALLY INTO

VIDEO GAMES, OLD MATTEL, AND

HAND-HELD GAMES.

OUR BATTERIES HAVE DIED, AND

SO I'M LOOKING FOR

BATTERIES, AND I FOUND THIS

LITTLE BOOKLET, AND IT SAID

SOMETHING ABOUT GOD ON THE

FRONT.

I JUST GRABBED IT.

AT THIS POINT I HAD NOT

REALLY GONE TO CHURCH AT

ALL, EXCEPT MAYBE BY THE

INVITATION OF A FRIEND OR

TWO.

IT WAS A SIMPLE BASIC GOSPEL

MESSAGE, AND IT GOT TO THE

END AND I SAID THE PRAYER

WHERE I ASKED JESUS TO BE MY

GOD.

AND AFTER I FINISHED SAYING

THAT PRAYER, I LEANED BACK

IN MY ROOM, AND I REMEMBER

HAVING THIS WARM, GLOWING,

TOASTY, MARSHMELLOW FEELING,

OH, I FEEL SO GOD.

AS I OPENED UP MY EYES, A

VISION OPENED UP BEFORE ME.

AND WHAT I SAW WAS THIS

GOLDEN CLOUD THAT I BELIEVED

TO BE THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

AND THE HOLY SPIRIT CAME

DOWN DIRECTLY INTO ME, AND I

BEGAN TO PRAY IN TONGUES.

IT WENT ON FOR A GOOD FIVE

OR 10 MINUTES, AND I HAD NO

CLUE WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

AND WHEN I FELT LIKE I WAS

DONE, I SAID, OKAY, AND I

STARTED PLAYING MY GAME

AGAIN.

I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT

IT AGAIN.

WHEN I'M STARTING TO GO

THROUGH MY TEENAGED YEARS,

NOT THINKING ABOUT THAT

EXPERIENCE, HAVING NO

RELATIONSHIP OR REAL CONCEPT

OF WHO GOD IS, I STARTED

DRINKING.

THROUGHOUT MY HIGH SCHOOL

YEARS, THERE WAS DRUG USE.

ALL KINDS OF UNSAVORY

THINGS.

THERE CAME A POINT WHERE I

STARTED HAVING A SPIRITUAL

HUNGER, AND I DIDN'T KNOW

WHAT TO DO.

SO I STARTED GETTING INTO

THE DARK ARTS.

WHEN I SAY "THE DARK ARTS,"

I WAS NOT COMPLETELY

ENTRENCHED, BUT I LOVED TO

READ THINGS ABOUT PSYCHICS.

I LOVED TO READ THINGS ABOUT

GHOSTS, ABOUT DIFFERENT

STRANGE ENCOUNTERS THAT

PEOPLE HAD.

AND I STARTED KIND OF

GETTING INTO PSYCHIC BOOKS

AND READING ABOUT THE

PSYCHIC GIFTINGS AND THIS

AND THAT.

THINKING IF SOMEBODY HAS

THIS KIND OF GIFT, IT HAS

GOT TO BE FROM GOD.

WHERE ELSE COULD IT COME

FROM?

LATE ONE NIGHT IN MY

BEDROOM, I TURN ON THE

RADIO, AND THERE IS A FAMOUS

BAY AREA PSYCHIC ON.

AND SHE WAS TONIGHT I'M

GOING TO TEACH YOU HOW TO

MEET YOUR GUARDIAN ANGEL.

AND I THINK, HOW COOL IS

THAT.

SHE LEADS YOU THROUGH THIS

BASIC EXERCISE, PUT ON SOME

MUSIC, YOU TAKE THREE DEEP

BREATHS, AND YOU CLEAR YOUR

MIND.

THAT WAS IT.

YOU COULD TELL WHEN

EVERYTHING WAS COMPLETELY

BLANK IN YOUR MIND, AND YOU

WOULD START TO FEEL A LITTLE

BIT OF LIGHT.

AND BEFORE YOU KNEW IT, I

BEGAN TO FEEL MY SPIRIT AND

MY SOUL JUST KIND OF COME

OUT OF MY BODY.

IT WENT STRAIGHT UP TO THE

CEILING IN MY BEDROOM, AND

KA-BOOM, IT'S LIKE I'M OUT

AND TRAVELLING.

IT IS WHAT PEOPLE CALL

ASTRAL PROJECTION.

MY SOUL, MY SPIRIT,

WHATEVER, I'M FLYING THROUGH

THE AIR.

I'M, LIKE, CRUISING, AND

I'M, LIKE, WHAT IN THE WORLD

IS GOING ON.

I FEEL WIND AND COLDNESS AND

IT IS COMPLETELY DARK.

BUT AS I LOOK DOWN, I COULD

SEE THE TOPS OF PEOPLE'S

HEADS, LIKE, WALKING.

I NOTICED THEY WERE NOT

PEOPLE.

THEY WERE, LIKE, MONSTERS OR

SOMETHING.

THEY WERE THE DEMONIC.

AND THEY WERE LOOKING UP AT

ME, AND I WAS LIKE WHOA!

AND I STARTED TO GET REALLY

SCARED, SO I DID WHAT THE

PSYCHIC SAID TO DO TO COME

BACK IN YOUR BODY.

AND I DID THAT, AND ALL OF A

SUDDEN BAM, I'M BACK IN MY

BED.

I'M, LIKE, WHOA, WHAT IN THE

HECK HAPPENED.

THAT WAS ODD.

I'M GOING TO GO TO SLEEP AND

FORGET ABOUT THAT.

EITHER PURPOSELY OR

IGNORANTLY, WHEN WE STEP OUT

OF GOD'S PROTECTION OR WE

START MESSING AROUND WITH

MEDIA, PSYCHICS, WHATEVER,

IT OPENS UP A DOOR, SO WHAT

HAPPENED FROM THAT DAY FOR

THE NEXT FEW YEARS,

THROUGHOUT MY HIGH SCHOOL

YEARS, I WOULD BE HAR RAISED

HAHARASSED BY DARK

SPIRITS.

I WOULD BE SLEEPING IN BED,

AND IT IS LIKE WHEN YOU KNOW

SOMEONE IS STARING AT YOU.

AND I WOULD WAKE UP, AND

EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT

NIGHTS THERE WOULD BE

DIFFERENT BEAMS EN MY ROOM,

AROUND MY BED.

SO WHEN NIGHT WOULD BE

LIKE AN INDIA CHIEF, AND HE

WOULD, LIKE, LOOK LIKE HE

WANTED TO SCRATCH ME, BUT HE

COULDN'T.

THERE WAS, LIKE, THIS COCOON

AROUND ME.

I WOULD SWING AND I WOULD

SWIPE, AND THEY WOULD

EVENTUALLY GO AWAY.

SOME WOULD LOOK LIKE OLD

LADIES.

SOME WOULD LOOK LIKE

WITCHES.

SOME WOULD HAVE A SERPENT

KIND OF LOOK TO THEM.

THIS WENT ON FOR MANY, MANY

YEARS.

MANY, MANY YEARS.

I'M ABOUT 18 AT THE TIME.

I BEGAN WORKING AT AN

INSURANCE COMPANY.

WE WERE ALLOWED TO LISTEN TO

MUSIC.

OUR WALKMEN.

AND WHEN MY WALKMAN WOULD

GET WORN DOWN BATTERY-WISE,

I COULD STILL PLAY THE

RADIO.

AND F.M. NEVER CAME IN, SO I

WOULD HAVE TO LISTEN TO A.M.

AND I'M, LIKE, WHOA,

METALLICA IS ON A.M. I'M

FREAKING OUT.

THEY PLAY 20 SECONDS OF A

SONG, AND THEN A PREACHER

COMES ON, AND HE STARTS

TALKING ABOUT THE MUSIC AND

THE BAND.

AND I'M, LIKE, WHAT, I'M

GOING TO KILL THIS GUY.

WHO IS HE?

HE DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING

ABOUT THIS.

DOT, DOT, DOT, I'M GOING TO

TUNE IN TOMORROW TO SEE WHAT

HE HAS TO SAY.

WHAT HAPPENED IS I START

TUNING IN EVERY DAY AND HE

IS PREACHING THE GOSPEL

EVERY DAY.

AND SO HE STARTS TALKING

ABOUT DELIVERANCE AND ABOUT

YOUR AUTHORITY IN CHRIST,

AND STANDING UP AGAINST DARK

SPIRITS.

KA-CHING, THE DOTS START

COMING TOGETHER.

I HAVE CHRIST IN ME, EVEN

THOUGH I'M NOT WALKING WITH

HIM AT ALL.

I'VE GOT DARK SPIRITS, AND

THEY'RE COMING IN AND

HAUNTING AND KEEPING ME UP

AT NIGHT.

AND WAIT A MINUTE, AWRNL,

AUTHORITY, DO I STILL HAVE

WHATEVER THIS AUTHORITY IS,

WHAT THIS GUY IS TALKING

ABOUT.

I REMEMBER GOING TO MY

APARTMENT AND PRAYING.

AND THE PRAYER THAT I PRAYED

WAS, GOD, I DON'T EVEN KNOW

WHAT KIND OF DOOR IT IS THAT

I OPENED.

I GO, BUT BY THE BLOOD OF

CHRIST I FEEL THAT DOOR

SHUT.

AND WHATEVER I DID THAT WAS

WRONG, FATHER, I CONFESS IT

TO YOU AS SIN.

AND LET ME TELL YOU, IT WAS,

LIKE, BAM.

IT STOPPED.

IT WAS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

Gordon: SOME OF YOU MAY

HAVE OPENED THAT SAME DOOR,

AND YOU CAN HAVE THE SAME

AUTHORITY THAT JIMMY USED.

JESUS GIVES IT TO US.

AND YOU LOOK IN LUKE, THE

10th CHAPTER, HE SAYS, "I

GIVE YOU AUTHORITY TO TREAD

ON SERPENTS AND SCORPIONS."

AND HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT

PHYSICAL SERPENTS AND

SCORPIONS -- HE IS USING AN

IMAGE.

IF YOU THINK YOU'VE OPENED A

DOOR INTO THE DARK SIDE,

INTO THE DEMONIC.

THEN YOU CAN HAVE THE

AUTHORITY THAT JESUS GIVES

YOU TO CLOSE THAT DOOR.

AND YOU HAVE AUTHORITY TO

BIND SO THAT THEY NO LONGER

HARASS YOU.

NOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT

I'VE MET THAT SAY, WELL, I

CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I'VE

ALREADY SOLD MY SOUL.

I MADE A BARGAIN.

WELL, I'VE GOT GOOD NEWS FOR

YOU.

JESUS MADE A BIGGER

BARGAIN.

AND HE PAID THE PRICE SO

THAT YOUR SOUL WOULD BE WITH

HIM FOR ALL ETERNITY.

REALIZE YOU ARE BOUGHT AND

PAID FOR.

AND WHATEVER BARGAIN YOU'VE

MADE, JESUS WILL GIVE YOU

THE AUTHORITY TO ANNUL IT.

SO DO WHAT JIMMY DID AND

PRAY THAT SAME PRAYER.

I BIND YOU NOW IN JESUS'

NAME.

IF THERE IS ANY DOOR I'VE

OPENED, I REPENT FROM IT.

I REALIZE IT'S SIN, AND I

SEAL THAT DOOR.

I TURN FROM IT.

I WILL NEVER OPEN IT AGAIN.

AND IT'S SEALED NOW IN

JESUS' NAME.

AND IF YOU PRAY THAT, GOD

WILL HEAR IT.

HE'LL ANSWER.

HE'LL STOP THOSE VOICES.

HE'LL STOP THE HAUNTING.

AND YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY

AS A BELIEVER, OVER ALL OF

THE POWER OF THE ENEMY.

THAT'S WHAT JESUS GIVES TO

YOU, AND HE GIVES IT TO YOU

FREE.

IF YOU NEED HELP WITH THIS,

IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO AGREE

WITH YOU IN PRAYER, WE'RE

HERE FOR YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL A

TOLL-FREE NUMBER.

1-888-777-1999.

JUST SAY, I NEED HELP.

I NEED SOMEBODY TO PRAY WITH

ME.

THIS IS WHAT IS GOING ON IN

MY LIFE.

AND I NEED SOMEONE TO AGREE

WITH ME AND STAND WITH ME IN

PRAYER.

IT'S OUR HONOR.

IT'S OUR PRIVILEGE TO PRAY

WITH YOU.

SO THE NUMBER IS TOLL-FREE.

AND IT'S AVAILABLE 24 HOURS

A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

USE IT.

WRITE IT DOWN.

CALL US.

1-888-777-1999.

THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE

FOR THIS PROGRAM.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM PSALM 62, AND IF

YOU'RE EVER AFFLICTED, USE

THIS ONE: "IN GOD IS MY

SALVATION AND MY GLORY, THE

ROCK OF MY STRENGTH AND MY

REFUGE IS IN MY GOD."

REALIZE SALVATION IS NOT

BASED ON WHAT YOU DO.

IT IS BASED ON WHAT GOD DID,

AND HE DID IT FOR YOU.

AND HE DID A PERFECT JOB.

GOD BLESS YOU.

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