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The Brody File: Immigration Frustration - May 9, 2013

This week on The Brody File we are joined by Senator Lindsey Graham who discussed the importance of evangelicals in the immigration debate on Capitol Hill. Also, Caitlin Burke reports on the upcoming decision that the Boy Scouts will have to ... ... Read Transcript


David: THIS WEEK ON

"THE BRODY FILE," LOTS OF

IMMIGRATION FRUSTRATION ON

CAPITOL HILL.

IS IT AMNESTY OR NOT?

WE'RE GOING TO TALK

ONE-ON-ONE WITH A GANG

MEMBER, SENATOR LINDSAY

GRAHAM.

YOU'LL HAVE AMNESTY

FOREVER UNLESS YOU COME UP

WITH A SOLUTION TO THIS

PROBLEM.

David: ALSO, D-DAY IS

APPROACHING FOR THE BOY

SCOUTS.

WILL THEY ALLOW GAY SCOUT

MASTERS OR NOT?

KATELYN BURKE HAS THAT STORY

FOR US.

WE HAVE RELATIVES.

WE HAVE SISTERS, BROTHERS,

COUSINS, AUNTS, WHATEVER,

THAT ARE IN THAT LIFESTYLE.

DO WE STOP LOVING THEM?

NO.

WE DON'T STOP LOVING THEM.

David: PLUS LIBERAL

ALERT, LIBERAL ALERT.

"WASHINGTON POST" COLUMNIST

DANA MILLBANK IS IN STUDIO.

IT WAS AWESOME TO BE OUT

THERE FIGHTING FOR THAT

AGENDA.

WHATEVER THAT AGENDA IS.

I THINK THE PEOPLE ON THE

LEFT WOULD LIKE SOME MORE

FIGHT ON US.

David: PLUS CHRIS

CHRISTIE TURNS INTO

SPEEDERMAN.

WE HAVE THE VIDEO TO PROVE

IT.

ON "THE BRODY FILE," NEXT.

*

David: AND WELCOME

BACK, EVERYBODY, TO ANOTHER

AWARD-WINNING EPISODE OF

"THE BRODY FILE."

WE'RE PROUD TO BE THE

WINNERS OF NINE EMMY

AWARDS.

DAVID, WE'RE NOT AN

AWARD-WINNING SHOW.

David: OH, I'M SORRY,

FOLKS.

MY BAD.

I ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING

THAT WAS NOT TRUE.

HEY, LOOK, DON'T FAULT ME.

I'M JUST DOING WHAT THE

STATE DEPARTMENT IS DOING ON

BENGHAZI.

I MISLED A LITTLE.

HEY, WHATEVER.

I PULLED A BENGHAZI, SUE

ME.

NOW ON TO OUR TOP STORY.

WE CALL IT THE CAPITOL HILL

VERSION OF IMMIGRATION

FRUSTRATION.

WELL, FOLKS, THE IMMIGRATION

DEBATE IS OFFICIALLY UNDER

WAY NOW ON CAPITOL HILL, AND

RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT MORE

QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.

FOR EXAMPLE, CAN THE SENATE

GET 70 VOTES OR MORE TO SHOW

STRENGTH SO THAT THE BILL

WOULD ACTUALLY THEN BE ABLE

TO PASS THE HOUSE?

WILL THE HOUSE EVEN PASS THE

BILL?

AND BOO WOULD IT LOO WOULD

IT LOOK LIKE?

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE

BURNING QUESTIONS: WHAT IS

THE SECRET HANDSHAKE BETWEEN

THE SENATE'S INFAMOUS GANG

OF EIGHT?

AND JOINING US FROM CAPITOL

HILL, SENATOR LINDSAY

GRAHAM, ONE OF THE GANG OF

EIGHT.

SENATOR, HOW MANY GANGS ARE

UP THERE?

IT SEEMS LIKE A DANGEROUS

PLACE UP THERE.

HERE IS THE GOOD NEWS.

WE'RE PRETTY INCOMPETENT.

WE COULDN'T HURT OURSELVES

OR ANYBODY ELSE IF WE

TRIED.

I'M GLAD TO BE IN THE GROUP

OF EIGHT, GANG OF EIGHT.

David: OF ALL OF THE

STRAIGHT SHOOTERS, AND THERE

AREN'T MANY ON CAPITOL HILL,

YOU ARE ONE OF THEM.

THANKS.

David: LET'S GET DOWN

TO THE NITTY-GRITTY AND GET

INSIDE THE NUMBERS.

HOW CAN YOU TELL IF THIS

THING IS GOING TO GET 70

VOTES OR MORE.

THIS SEEMS TO BE THE MAGIC

NUMBER TO GET AT LEAST

THROUGH THE HOUSE?

I THINK SO.

WELL, THE QUALITY OF THE

PRODUCT.

FROM A REPUBLICAN POINT OF

VIEW, AFTER 2012, WHEN YOU

GET 27% OF THE HISPANIC VOTE

AND YOU ASK PEOPLE WHAT'S

THE PROBLEM, IT IS THE

RHETORIC AROUND

IMMIGRATION.

FROM 2006 UP UNTIL THE 2012

ELECTION, THE WAY WE TALKED

ABOUT THE ILLEGAL

IMMIGRATION PROBLEM, WHICH

IS PREDOMINANTLY FROM THE

HISPANIC, IT DOES NOT HELP

THEM.

IT IS HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO

LISTEN TO YOUR ECONOMIC

ARGUMENT, YOUR NATIONAL

SECURITY ARGUMENT, IF THEY

THINK YOU'RE GOING TO DEPORT

THEIR GRANDMOTHER.

WE'VE GOT TO GET OVER THAT.

David: THIS GAY RIGHTS

AMENDMENT, IS THAT A DEAL

KILLER?

THE EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY

AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WILL

NOT SUPPORT A BILL THAT

TURNS THE EFFORTS TO REFORM

IMMIGRATION INTO A SAME-SEX

MARRIAGE DEBATE.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO -- THE

MARKET WILL NOT BEAR THAT.

WE'LL HAVE THAT DEBATE APART

FROM IMMIGRATION.

NOW, I TOLD MY DEMOCRATIC

COLLEAGUES THAT THE

EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY THAT

HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL, WE'LL

LOSE THEM AND THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH, AND ME, IF WE START

TURNING THE IMMIGRATION

DEBATE, WHICH IS HARD

ENOUGH, INTO A DEBATE ON

SAME-SEX BENEFITS.

THAT WON'T WORK.

David: LET ME ASK YOU

REAL QUICK ABOUT THE

EVANGELICAL COMMUNITY.

WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN?

IT SEEMS IF THERE HAS NOT

BEEN A ROAD TO DAMASCUS

MOMENT, OVER TIME

EVANGELICALS ARE STARTING TO

GET ON BOARD.

WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR SENSE

ABOUT HOW CRUCIAL THEY ARE

TO ALL OF THIS?

I THINK EVANGELICAL

CHURCHES, CONSERVATIVE

POLITICIANS, REALIZE WE'VE

GOT A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO

CONNECT WITH THE HISPANIC

POPULATION.

THEY'RE PEOPLE OF FAITH,

THEY'RE PRO-LIFE, THEY'RE

VERY ENTREPRENEURIAL, AND

VERY PATRIOTIC.

THIS IMMIGRATION DEBATE HAS

HURT US, AND WE NEED TO GET

IT RESOLVED AND BEHIND US.

THE EVANGELICAL SUPPORT IN

SOUTH CAROLINA OF HAVING A

RATIONAL, PRACTICAL

SOLUTION, HAS CHANGED

EVERYTHING FOR ME AT HOME.

David: I WOULD THINK

IF THE BROADER EVANGELICAL

COMMUNITY WAS NOT ON BOARD

WITH THIS, THERE WOULD BE BE

ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS?

ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN I HAVE PASTORS READ

PASSAGES FROM THE BIBLE ON

HOW TO TREAT STRANGERS --

WE'RE NOT GOING TO CODDLE

PEOPLE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE

PRACTICAL.

I DON'T THINK

SELF-DEPORTATION WORKS.

IF ANYTHING, THE EVANGELICAL

PEOPLE BELIEVE IN FAMILIES,

RIGHT?

WOULD YOU SIT ON THE SIDE

LINE AND WATCH YOUR

GRANDMOTHER WALK BACK TO

MEXICO IN AN EFFORT TO

SELF-DEPORT 11 MILLION

PEOPLE.

THEY HAVE CHILDREN AND

GRANDCHILDREN WHO ARE

AMERICAN CITIZENS.

THAT IS NOT A PRACTICAL

SOLUTION BECAUSE FAMILIES

DON'T WORK THAT WAY.

HERE IS WHAT WOULD WORK: A

PRACTICAL SOLUTION OF

GETTING PEOPLE INTO THE

COUNTRY ON OUR TERMS, NOT

THEIRS.

LEARNING OUR LANGUAGE,

PAYING A FINE, AND GETTING

INTO THE BACK OF THE LINE.

SO THE EVANGELICAL SUPPORT

THAT HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL TO

ME HAS ONE COMMON THREAD TO

IT: THEY WANT TO BE

PRACTICAL AND THEY RECOGNIZE

THESE PEOPLE ARE HUMAN

BEINGS.

David: LET ME QUOTE

SHAKESPEARE: "AMNESTY OR NO

AM NESAMNESTY, THAT IS THE

QUESTION," A SHAKESPEARE MAY

HAVE SAID, OR COULD HAVE

SAID.

AM MEST TE AMNESTY IS

WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

SINCE 2006, THERE HAS BEEN

NO EFFORT TO FIX

IMMIGRATION, AND AMNESTY

EXISTS IN THE CURRENT

SYSTEM.

11MILLION PEOPLE ARE NOT

GOING TO BE DEPORTED THROUGH

SELF-DEPORTATION.

David: WELL,

IMMIGRATION IS GRABBING THE

BULK OF THE HEADLINES, LET

US NOT FORGET ABOUT ANOTHER

BIG STORY ON THE HORIZON:

WILL THE BOY SCOUTS OF

AMERICA BE PRESSURED INTO

ALLOWING GAY SCOUT MEMBERS

TO BE PART OF THEIR

ORGANIZATION?

GUESS WHAT, FOLKS, THE

DECISION IS COMING SOON, AND

BRODY FILE KATELYN BURKE IS

ON THE STORY AND JOINS US

WITH MORE.

THE BOY SCOUTS ARE IN A

TOUGH SPOT HERE?

THAT'S RIGHT, DAVID.

THERE ARE VERY FEW

NON-RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS

LEFT THAT HAVE AVOIDED

CASING TO THE PRESSURE TO BE

POLITICALLY CORRECT.

NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE BOY

SCOUTS OF AMERICA COULD BE

THE NEXT TO FALL.

THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA

ARE KNOWN FOR THEIR

COMMITMENT TO GOD, COUNTRY,

AND MORALITY.

BUT PRESSURE FROM GAY RIGHTS

ACTIVISTS HAD THE

ORGANIZATION'S LEADERSHIP

CONSIDERING A NEW POLICY.

IF IT IS APPROVED, IT WOULD

ALLOW OPENLY GAY TROOP

MEMBERS TO JOIN.

MANY WORRY THAT WILL

COMPROMISE SCOUTING AS IT

WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISION

THE.

WE JOINED BOY SCOUTS

BECAUSE WE LIKE THE

LEADERSHIP MODEL, WE LIKE

WHAT THEY TEACH.

AND I THINK IF YOU INTRODUCE

THIS WHOLE HOMOSEXUAL IDEA,

IT BECOMES THE FOCUS.

IT BECOMES THE FEAR.

IT BECOMES THE OBVERSE

SITUATION.

AND IT TAKES AWAY FROM WHAT

THE BOYS ARE THERE FOR.

70% OF THE TROOPS ARE

CHARTERED BY FAITH-BASED

ORGANIZATIONS.

AND NOW MANY OF THOSE

ORGANIZATIONS ARE

THREATENING TO PULL THEIR

SUPPORT IF THE BAN ON GAY

SCOUT MEMBERS IS LIFTED.

JESUS WAS ABLE TO SPEAK

UNABASHED TRUTH INTO THE

LIVES OF PEOPLE.

TRUTH SOMETIMES THEY WEREN'T

PREPARED TO HEAR, SOMETIMES

TRUTH THEY DIDN'T EVEN

KNOW.

BUT HE WOULD DO SO WITH A

HEART OF LOVE AND RESPECT

FOR THEIR VALUE.

THE CHURCH IS CALLED TO

BE ENGAGED WITH ITS CULTURE,

TO ENGAGED WITH THE LIVES OF

EVERYBODY, AND THAT MEANS IN

WAYS THAT WE HAVE UNDERSTOOD

IN THE PAST AND WAYS THAT WE

HAVE YET TO UNDERSTAND HOW

THEY'RE GOING TO PLAY OUT.

WE HAVE RELATIVES,

SISTERS, BROTHERS, COUSINS,

AUNTS, WHATEVER, THAT ARE IN

THAT LIFESTYLE.

DO WE STOP LOVING THEM?

NO.

WE DON'T STOP LOVING THEM.

BUT WE HAVE TO TELL THEM THE

TRUTH.

A RECENT BOY SCOUTS OF

AMERICA SURVEY SHOWS THAT A

MAJORITY OF MEMBERS SUPPORT

KEEPING THE CURRENT POLICY.

AND IN 2000, THE SUPREME

COURT RULED THAT THE

ORGANIZATION WAS WITHIN ITS

LEGAL RIGHTS TO BAN OPENLY

GAY PEOPLE FROM

PARTICIPATING.

STILL, THE BOY SCOUTS' BAN

HAS GROWN INCREASINGLY

CONTROVERSIAL.

NOW IT IS UP TO 1400 VOTING

MEMBERS OF ITS NATIONAL

COUNCIL TO DECIDE.

AND, DAVID, THE VOTE ON THE

NEW POLICY ALLOWING GAY

SCOUT MEMBERS IS SCHEDULED

FOR MAY 23rd.

David: ALREADY,

KATELYN, WE'LL CHECK BACK

FOR A FOLLOWUP IN A FEW

WEEKS.

THIS GOT "THE BRODY FILE"

THINKING, AND WHEN THAT

HAPPENS, IT USUALLY LEADS TO

A BRODY FILE COMMENTARY.

LOOK, LET ME STATE THIS UP

FRONT, I'VE GOT TWO SONS WHO

ARE BOTH EAGLE SCOUTS.

SO AS A DAD WHO HAS BEEN ON

PLENTY CAMPOUTS, TRUST ME, I

KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT

THE BOY SCOUTS.

HERE IS THE DIRTY LITTLE

SECRET NOBODY WANTS TO TALK

ABOUT.

THE REASON IT IS CALLED

HOMOSEXUALITY IS BECAUSE

MEN, NEWS FLASH, ARE

ATTRACTED TO OTHER MEN.

NOT EMOTIONALLY ATTRACTED AS

MUCH AS PHYSICALLY

ATTRACTED.

AH, DANGER, WILL ROBINSON.

DANGER.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE ON AN

OVERNIGHT CAMPOUT, THAT IS

GOING TO MAKE SOME

HETEROSEXUAL FOLKS FEEL A

BIT UNCOMFORTABLE.

SORRY, I KNOW SOME PEOPLE

ARE GOING TO SAY WHAT I JUST

SAID IS HOMOPHOBIC, BUT IT

IS NOT.

IT IS JUST THE PLAIN TRUTH.

IT SEEMS ALL OF THE TALK IS

HOW THE BOY SCOUTS NEED TO

BE INCLUSIVE OF GAY SCOUTS.

WHAT ABOUT BEING SENSITIVE

TO THE FACT THAT

HETEROSEXUAL SCOUTS VERY

WELL MAY FEEL

UNCOMFORTABLE.

NOBODY EVER TALKS ABOUT

THAT.

LOOK, THE REALITY IS THE BOY

SCOUTS ARE A PRIVATE

ORGANIZATION.

THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY

WANT.

NOW, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT

TAXPAYER-FUNDED MONEY HERE,

EITHER.

REMEMBER, 70% OF THE BOY

SCOUT GROUPS ARE EITHER

CHARTERED THROUGH

FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS OR

CHURCHES.

I MEAN, COME ON, EVERYBODY,

GIVE THE BOY SCOUTS A

BREAK.

ISN'T WINNING ON THE GAY

MARRIAGE ISSUE IN SOME

STATES ENOUGH FOR HOMOSEXUAL

ACTIVISTS?

APPARENTLY NOT.

ALL RIGHT, WHEN WE COME

BACK, STOP THE PRESSES.

ARE THEY ACTUALLY READING

THE BIBLE ON CAPITOL HILL.

SOMEONE GIVE ME A SEDATIVE.

WE HAVE THE STORY, NEXT.

*

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE,"

EVERYBODY.

WELL, FOR YOU LOYAL BRODY

FILE VIEWERS, YOU KNOW THAT

NORMALLY THIS SEGMENT IS

RESERVED FOR JENNY AND THE

"B" BLOCK.

BUT, NO JENNY THIS WEEK AT

ALL.

AS OUR PRODUCER DECLARED TO

ME IN AN E-MAIL THIS WEEK,

QUOTE,"EVEN JENNY NEEDS TO

TAKE A BREAK FROM THE

BLOCK."

WE UNDERSTAND SHE IS

SPENDING THIS WEEK DOING

ZUMBA CLASSES -- ACTUALLY,

WE HAVE NO CLUE WHERE JENNY

IS, BUT SHE WILL BE BACK

NEXT WEEK.

THE "B" BLOCK HAS TO GO ON.

TIME FOR THIS WEEK'S

EVANGELICAL APP.

*

David: WE BEGIN THIS

WEEK WITH A RARE SIGHTING --

NO, NOT BIGFOOT.

HOW ABOUT BIBLE READING ON

CAPITOL HILL.

THAT'S RIGHT, THE 24th

ANNUAL U.S. CAPITAL

BIBLE-READING MARATHON TOOK

PLACE RECENTLY.

90 CONTINUOUS HOURS OF BIBLE

READING, FROM GENESIS TO

REVELATION.

AND IT IS A U.S.

GOVERNMENT-SANCTIONED

EVENT.

NOW, I KNOW, I KNOW, THE

ATHEISTS ARE CHECKING INTO

REHAB AS WE SPEAK.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

BUT MARK BATISTA WAS THERE

TO CAPTURE THE ACTION.

O LORD, OPEN NI LIP MY

LIPS, AND MY MOUTH SHALL

SHOW FORTH YOUR PRAISES.

WE START ON THE SUNDAY

PRIOR TO THE NATIONAL DAY OF

PRAYER.

AND FOR 90 CONSECUTIVE HOURS

WE READ THROUGH THE ENTIRE

BIBLE.

IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE

WORD OF GOD IS IMPORTANT.

IT IS THE FOUNDATION OF OUR

BELIEFS, AND IT IS THE

FOUNDATION OF ALL OF THE

LAWS THAT THIS COUNTRY HOLDS

SO DEAR.

THERE IS NONE WHO DOES

GOOD, NO, NOT ONE.

I THINK IT IS PRETTY

AWESOME.

I'M A SPIRITUAL PERSON.

I THINK IT IS AMAZING

THEY'RE OUT HERE AND WILLING

TO DO THIS.

HEAR MY PRAYER, O GOD,

GIVE IT TO THE WORDS OF MY

MOUTH.

I HAVE A DAUGHTER WHO IS

ALMOST FOUR, AND SO EICH

BEE I'VE BEEN REALLY

THINKING ABOUT RETURNING TO

CHURCH.

I GREW UP CHRISTIAN.

SO I'M THINKING OF RETURNING

TO CHURCH FOR HER.

I DEFINITELY WHAT PICK UP

AND BIBLE AND START TO READ

IT AGAIN.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO READ IT

PUBLICLY AND EMOTIONALLY.

THE RAIN IS COMING DOWN, AND

OUR GLASSES ARE FOGS UP,

FOGGED UP, BUT WE KEEP

READING.

David: ALL RIGHT,

LET'S MOVE ON TO A FEW OTHER

FAITH-BASED STORIES.

WE'RE GETTING REPORTS OUT OF

BOSTON THAT SOME CLERGY

MEMBERS WERE NOT ALLOWED

ACCESS TO THE MARATHON

BOMBING SCENE WHEN THEY

FIRST RESPONDED.

THEY WERE TURNED AWAY BY

AUTHORITY.

THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO SET UP

THEIR AID AND PRAYER

STATIONS AWAY FROM THE

SCENE.

OY-GEVALT.

AND HOW ABOUT THIS: THE

PENTAGON SAYS SOLDIERS CAN

ACTUALLY BE PROSECUTED FOR

SHARING THEIR FAITH.

WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING

TO?

MORE ON THIS IN A FUTURE

BRODY FILE SHOW.

AND ONE MORE FAITH STORY,

THIS ONE SPORTS RELATED.

NOW THAT BORN TI AGAIN TIM

TEBOW WAS CUT, SOME ARE

PETITIONING THE WHITE HOUSE

TO CONVINCE THE JAGUAR'S

GENERAL MANAGER TO SIGN

TEBOW.

THE WHITE HOUSE'S PLATFORM

CALLED "WE THE PEOPLE" SAY

YOU HAVE TO COLLECT 1,000

SIGNATURES BEFORE THE WHITE

HOUSE WILL RESPOND TO YOUR

REQUEST.

SO THEY NEED 100,000 BY

MAY 30th, AND SO FAR THEY

HAVE THE GRAND TOTAL OF

329.

ALL RIGHT, WHEN WE COME

BACK, TAKING THE PRESIDENT

TO TASK BY AN UNLIKELY

CRITIC.

A CONVERSATION WITH DAVID

MILBECK FROM THE "WASHINGTON

POST." THAT IS NEXT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, "THE

BRODY FILE" IS AN EQUAL

OPPORTUNITY INTERVIEWER.

WE SIT DOWN WITH BOTH

CONSERVATIVES, AND, YES,

LIBERALS.

ON THE LIBERAL SIDE, WE'VE

INTERVIEWED BARACK OBAMA

FOUR TIMES, BY THE WAY.

HILLARY CLINTON, WE'VE

BROKEN BREAD, OR AT LEAST

INTERVIEWED HER.

HARRY REID, AND EVEN AL

FRANKEN.

THIS WEEK WE ARE JOINED IN

STUDIO BY DANA MILBECK, FROM

THE "WASHINGTON POST." HE

COMES FROM THE LIBERAL

PERSPECTIVE, BUT HE IS FUNNY

IN HIS WRITINGS, AND IT

MAKES FOR A GREAT,

INFORMATIVE, AND

ENTERTAINING READ.

RECENTLY HE WROTE A COLUMN

WROTE, "A PRESIDENTIAL

BY-STANDER," WHERE HE TAKES

THE PRESIDENT TO TASK OVER

HOW THE SECOND TERM IS

PROCEEDING.

"100 DAYS INTO HIS SECOND

TERM, OBAMA HAS ALREADY LOST

CONTROL OF THE AGENDA, IF HE

EVER HAD CONTROL IN THE

FIRST PLACE."

MORE NOW FROM DANA MILBECK.

TALK TO ME A LITTLE ABOUT

WHAT YOU MEANT BY THAT AS IT

RELATES TO PRESIDENT OBAMA

AND HIS SECOND TERM?

HERE WE HAVE A PRESIDENT

JUST ELECTED TO HIS SECOND

TERM.

HE SHOULD BE AT A REALLY

STRONG POINT, AND ALREADY HE

CALLED THAT NEWS CONFERENCE,

AND WE WEREN'T EXACTLY WHY.

BUT IT IS AS IF HE AC

ACQUIESCES AND SAYING, I

CAN'T GET ANYTHING THROUGH

ON CAPITOL HILL.

IT IS UP TO THEM.

I CAN'T MAKE THEM DO THE

RIGHT THING.

David: IT SEEMS LIKE

THIS IS WHO HE IS, THIS IS

HIS PERSONALITY?

HE IS NOT GOING TO BE THE

GUY WHO WILL STAND UP AND DO

THE JIMMY STEWART THING IN

"MR. SMITH GOES TO

WASHINGTON."

LOOK AT HEALTH CARE, HE

KEPT ON THAT FOR A LONG

TIME, SOME WOULD SAY ON THE

DETRIMENT OF THE ECONOMY AND

OTHER THINGS.

WHEN HE WANTS TO PUT THE

FIGHT INTO SOMETHING, HE CAN

DO IT.

HE DID IT INTERMITTENTLY ON

GUN CONTROL.

IF HE KEPT THE PRESSURE ON

EARLY ON, HE COULD HAVE

GOTTEN A BETTER RESULT.

PRESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP MAY

NOT BE AS POWERFUL A TOOL AS

IT ONCE WAS, BECAUSE THERE

ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON

CAPITOL HILL WITH AN

INCENTIVE TO DEFY HIM.

BUT IT IS STILL THE

STRONGEST THING WE'VE GOT,

REGARDLESS OF WHAT PARTY IS

IN POWER.

THE BEST TOOL WE HAVE TO GET

ANYTHING IS PRESIDENTIAL

LEADERSHIP.

David: AT THE END OF

THE ARTICLE, YOU REFER TO IT

AS A MORBID PRESIDENCY,

SOMEWHAT OF A DEMISE OF THAT

SECOND TERM.

WHERE IS HE ON THIS LEGACY

SEARCH, IF YOU WILL?

I KNOW THAT WILL BE DEFINED

LATER ON, BUT WHAT IS YOR

SENSE?

I THINK -- IT IS STILL

VERY EARLY, BUT I THINK IF

HE LEAVES OFFICE A FEW YEARS

FROM NOW AND THE ECONOMY IS

BOOMING, AND SOMEHOW HE HAS

MANAGED TO PUT TOGETHER A

BUDGET DEAL, WELL, HE COULD

BE A CELEBRATED FIGURE MUCH

THE WAY BILL CLINTON IS

TODAY.

David: DO YOU THINK

THERE IS A DISAPPOINTMENT TO

A CERTAIN TODAY IN LIBERAL

CAMPS?

I THINK THERE IS A HUGE

DISAPPOINTMENT, THAT THEY'RE

SEEING THIS RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE DISAPPOINTED THEY

DIDN'T GET MORE ON GUN

CONTROL.

THEY SEE IMMIGRATION MAYBE

NOT WORKING OUT.

THE BUDGET THE PRESIDENT PUT

FORWARD, I THINK, IT WAS A

FAIRLY REASONABLE DOCUMENT

BECAUSE HE MADE SOME

SACRIFICE ON THE ENTITLEMENT

PLANS.

THE LIBERALS ARE ABSOLUTELY

UP IN ARMS ABOUT THAT,

SAYING HE IS SURRENDERING

BEFORE THEIR NEGOTIATIONS.

SO HE DOES GET SOME CREDIT

FOR DEFYING HIS OWN BASE ON

THE BUDGET.

HE IS NOT GETTING MUCH

CREDIT FROM THE REPUBLICANS

FOR THAT, BUT HE IS AS LEAST

TAKING A STEP IN THAT

DIRECTION.

David: YOUR ARTICLES

ARE FASCINATING BECAUSE

THEY'RE FACT-BASED,

NEWS-BASED, YET THERE IS

THAT HUMOR AS WELL.

YOU SEEM TO KIND OF ROLL IT

ALL INTO ONE.

WHAT IS YOUR PHILOSOPHY?

I LIKE TO COVER

WASHINGTON AS IF I'M A

FOREIGN CORRESPONDENT AND

THIS IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF

THE COUNTRY, THEY THINK THIS

IS A FOREIGN COUNTRY, WHERE

NOTHING MAKES SENSE, AND

NOTHING WORKS QUITE RIGHT.

LIKE WE'RE SOME THIRD WORLD

CIVILIZATION HERE.

I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN THAT

TO PEOPLE, AND IT IS FUNNY.

IT IS TRAGIC IN MANY WAYS

THAT THINGS ARE SO BROKEN

HERE AND WE CAN'T SEEM TO DO

ANY GOOD.

BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO SIT

THERE AND MOAN ABOUT HOW

AWFUL THE SITUATION IS,

FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE GOING

TO BE VERY DEPRESSED.

AND, SECOND, YOU'RE NOT

GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING

TO READ BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST

GOING TO BECOME PYIAS AND

PREACHY.

SO I LIKE TO HAVE FUN WITH

THE SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS

HERE IN WASHINGTON.

David: THAT'S DANA

MILBECK HERE ON "THE BRODY

FILE."

ONE THING CONSERVATIVES AND

LIBERALS CAN PRETTY MUCH

AGREE ON IS THAT THE

PRESIDENT IS A GOOD FATHER.

HE IS A GOOD DAD.

AND NOW WE HAVE PROOF.

HE CLEARLY IS NOT A BIG FAN

OF KIDS GETTING TATTOOS

BECAUSE HE WAS ASKED

RECENTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN

IF HIS DAUGHTER'S WANTED

ONE?

WHAT WE SAID TO THE GIRLS

IS IF YOU DECIDE YOU EVER

DECIDE YOU'RE GOING TO GET A

TATTOO, MOMMY AND ME WILL

GET THE EXACT SAME TATTOO,

IN THE SAME PLACE, AND WE'LL

GO ON YouTube AND SHOW

IT OFF AS A FAMILY TATTOO.

OUR THINKING IS THAT MIGHT

DISSUADE THEM FROM THINKING

THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO

REBEL.

David: GOOD FOR YOU,

PRESIDENT OBAMA.

FROM ONE PARENT TO THE

OTHER, I SALUTE YOU AND "THE

BRODY FILE" SLIEWTSZ YOU

SALUTES YOU AND WE

WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

David: AND WELCOME

BACK TO "THE BRODY FILE."

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT "THE

BRODY FILE" IS THE SON OF AN

EXTERMINATOR.

MY FATHER WAS A PEST CONTROL

OPERATOR AND HE WAS GOOD.

SO WITH A NOD TO MY LATE

FATHER, HE WOULD HAVE LOVED

THIS WEEK'S OY-VEY MOMENT OF

THE WEEK.

*

NEW JERSEY GORN CHRIS

CHRISTIE IS IN TROUBLE

AGAIN, AND, NO, IT IS NOT

WITH CONSERVATIVES.

HE'S GOT ENOUGH ISSUES WITH

THEM, TRUST ME.

HE IS IN TROUBLE WITH THE

PETA PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE FOR

THE ETHICAL TREATMENT OF

ANIMALS.

THEY ARE ANGRY ABOUT CHRIS'

ENCOUNTER WITH A SPIDER

DURING A PHOTO OP WITH

SCHOOL KIDS IN THE

GOVERNOR'S OFFICE.

HAVE A LOOK.

[LAUGHTER]

IT'S ALL PART OF BEING

GOVERNOR.

David: LOOK,

CHRISTIE'S SPIDERMAN MOVE

GOT THE ATTENTION OF PETA.

THE ANIMAL RIGHTS GROUP SAID

THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED WITH

CHRISTIE FOR SQUISHING THE

SPIDER.

THEY UNDERSTAND SPIDERS

COULD SEEM SCARY, BUT IT CAN

PREVENT PEOPLE LIKE CHRISTIE

FROM PONDERING THE WORTH OF

A SPIDER.

WE ALL LOVE GOD'S CREATURES,

BUT FOLKS AT PETA, TO USE AN

'80s STATEMENT, "TAKE A

CHILL PILL."

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