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The 700 Club - June 11, 2013

Christian musician Bebo Norman shares reasons why he is transitioning our of the music business. Plus, Amy uses her story of triumph over addiction to inspire others to victory in Jesus. Read Transcript


THE AWARDWINNING SINGER

JOINS US ONE LAST TIME

BEFORE CALLING IT A CAREER.

PLUS, AN ADDICT FIGHTS TO

HER LIFE.

I WAS INSTANTLY ADDICTED

TO THE NEEDLE.

Wendy: BUT THE BATTLE

WASN'T HERS ALONE.

WHEN YOU HAVE A CHILD WHO

HAS THIS KIND OF PROBLEM,

YOU HAVE TO GO TO WARFARE

FOR THEM.

Wendy: HOW THEY WON THE

DAY ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING

IS DON'T EVER, EVER GIVE UP,

NO MATTER HOW DARK IT GETS.

*

[APPLAUSE]

Pat: WELCOME TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

IT LOOKS LIKE THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE LIKE TO GET SPIED

ON.

IT'S AMAZING.

BUT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE

NOW THINK, MY, SURVEILLANCE,

SATELLITES, TAPPING YOUR

TELEPHONES, THAT'S ALL

GOOD.

I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT.

I THINK IT'S BAD.

WELL, THE REPORTER WHO

EXPOSED THE SECRET

GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE

PROGRAM SAYS HE HAS MORE

REVELATIONS AHEAD.

Terry: MEANWHILE, THE

MAN WHO LEAKED THAT

INFORMATION HAS GONE INTO

HIDING.

HERE IS REPORTER EPHRAIM

GRAHAM.

Reporter: EDWARD

SNOWDEN IS ON THE RUN

TODAY.

HE IS THE TARGET OF AN

INTERNATIONAL MANHUNT BY

FEDERAL AGENTS, AFTER

REVEALING TOP SECRET

INFORMATION ABOUT THE

N.S.A.'s MASSIVE DATA

COLLECTION PROGRAM.

SNOWDEN REPORTEDLY HAS MORE

DOCUMENTS THAT WILL PRODUCE

DOZENS MORE STORIES IN THE

WEEKS AND MONTHS AHEAD.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT

MORE SIGNIFICANT REVELATIONS

THAT HAVE NOT YET BEEN

HEARD.

Reporter: MEANWHILE,

U.S. LAWMAKERS ARE

CONDEMNING SNOWDEN'S LEAK,

AND SOME ARE CALLING FOR

CRIMINAL CHARGES.

HE IS A TRADER.

TRAITOR.

THESE ARE IMPORTANT PROGRAMS

TO HELP KEEP AMERICANS SAFE,

AND GIVE US TOOLS TO FIGHT

THE TERRORISTS' THREATS WE

FACE.

Reporter: AND MEMBERS

OF CONGRESS ARE ALSO

CRITICIZING THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION FOR FAILING

TO PROTECT PRIVACY RIGHTS IN

ITS PE PURSUIT OF

TERRORISTS.

ADAM SHIFT SAYS, "THERE IS

VERY LITTLE TRUST IN THE

GOVERNMENT, AND THAT'S FOR

GOOD REASON.

WE'RE OUR OWN WORST ENEMY."

OFFICIALS IN GERMANY AND THE

EUROPEAN UNION ISSUE

COMPLAINTS OVER PROGRAMS

THAT TARGET MESSAGES

TRANSMITTED THROUGH U.S.

PROVIDERS.

> ACCORDING TO A NEW POLL,

THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS

SUPPORT THE N.S.A.

TRACKING.

OVER ALL, 56% OF AMERICANS

SAY IT IS ACCEPTABLE FOR THE

GOVERNMENT TO INVESTIGATE

POSSIBLE TERRORIST THREATS,

EVEN IF THAT MEANS

COMPROMISING PERSONAL

PRIVACY.

41% SAY THE PRACTICE IS

UNACCEPTABLE.

EPHRAIM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

Pat: THAT LANDMARK

BOOK, 1984 -- I'VE MENTIONED

IT BEFORE, THAT WAS A

SHOCKER IN THOSE DAYS

BECAUSE THERE WAS A BIG

SOVIET THREAT OUT THERE.

BUT THEY HAD A BIG BROTHER,

AND I SEE IN SCIENCE FICTION

THE FUTURE WHERE THERE WOULD

BE A TRACKING DEVICE TO

EVERY ONE OF YOU, THAT YOU

WOULD ALL -- YOU, WE, ALL --

WOULD HAVE SOMETHING

IMPLANTED IN OUR BODIES THAT

WOULD TRACK WHEREVER WE

WERE.

WE WOULD GO OUT OF OUR HOME

AND WE WOULD HIT A BUTTON TO

SAY WE'RE LEAVING OUR

HOUSE.

WE WOULD WALK DOWN OUR

STREET, AND WE'D BE UNDER

SURVEILLANCE BY A SATELLITE

OR DRONE.

AND WE WOULD LOG AT OUR

OFFICE, AND NEVER WE GO

ANYWHERE WITHOUT BIG BROTHER

WATCHING US.

WE HAVE NEVER, IN THE PAST,

HAD THE TECHNOLOGICAL

CAPABILITY TO FULFILL

REVELATION.

NOW WE HAVE ADEQUATE

COMPUTER CAPACITY TO TRACK

EVERY HUMAN BEING ON THE

FACE OF THE GLOBE.

AND THAT, FOLKS, IS SCARY.

I DON'T CARE WHAT THE POLL

SHOWS, THAT IS SCARY.

WHILE SURVEILLANCE HAS

GRABBED THE HEADLINES, THE

SENATE IS TURNING ITS

ATTENTION TO ANOTHER HOT

POLITICAL TOPIC.

LEE WEBB HAS THAT STORY FROM

OUR CBN NEWS BUREAU IN

WASHINGTON, D.C.

Lee: THAT'S RIGHT,

PAT.

IMMIGRATION REFORM TAKES

CENTER STAGE THIS WEEK IN

THE SENATE.

REPUBLICAN MARCO RUBIO WILL

BE THE ONE TO WATCH AS HE

TRIES TO SELL THE IDEA TO

SKEPTICAL CONSERVATIVES.

DAVID BRODY SAT DOWN WITH

RUBIO TO TALK ABOUT WHY SO

MUCH RISE ON THE OUTCOME.

Reporter: IT MAY NOT BE

IMPOSSIBLE, BUT MARCO RUBIO

IS ON A MISSION AND PASSING

IMMIGRATION REFORM INVOLVES

CONVINCING TWO AUDIENCES,

SPANISH SPEAKERS --

[SPEAKING A

FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

Reporter: -- AND

INFLUENTIAL CONVERSATION,

LIKE THOSE WHO LISTEN TO

RUSH LIMBAUGH.

THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE

FOR YOU IS, WHY ARE WE DOING

THIS?

Reporter: RUBIO WALKS

THE WALK, AND HE GIVES THE

EFFORT A BIPARTISAN FEEL.

BUT HE IS NOT SATISFIED WITH

THE FINAL BILL.

RUBIO COULD WALK AWAY.

HIS JOB, BRING CONSERVATIVES

ON BOARD.

Reporter: HAS THIS BEEN

HARDER OF A IS SELL THAN YOU

ORIGINALLY THOUGHT?

THE ANSWER IS YES AND

NO.

Reporter: HE BELIEVES

THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNTRY

WOULD ACCEPT ILLEGAL

IMMIGRANTS, AS LONG AS THERE

ARE PENALTIES THAT GO ALONG

WITH IT.

ITH THE BIGGEST CHANGE

HAS NOT BEEN IN THE PULPIT,

BUT IN THE PEWS.

THE FOLKS ATTENDING CHURCH

WHO FIVE YEARS AGO FELT

DIFFERENT, AND NOW THEY'RE

WORSHIPPING NEXT TO AN

HISPANIC FAMILY.

I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE ARE

IN THIS DEBATE, CAN WE DO

ENOUGH ABOUT BORDER

SECURITY, SO PEOPLE WILL

SUPPORT DOING SOMETHING

ABOUT THE 11 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT I'M WORKING ON

TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.

GON.

WE'VE GONE TO OUR

COLLEAGUES, AND THEY'RE

SAYING, QUITE FRANKLY, WE

DON'T TRUST THE

ADMINISTRATION.

WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE'RE GOING

TO SECURE THE BORDER BEFORE,

AND THAT NEVER HAPPENS.

FOR ME, IF WE START

WEAKENING THE GUEST WORKER

PROGRAM -- I'M NOT

INTERESTED IN THAT HORSE

TRADING.

Reporter: A NUMBER OF

TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVES

ACCUSE RUBIO FROM PUSHING

BACK POLICY FROM THE

STREETS.

WE PUT HIM IN OFFICE, AND

THIS IS NOT WHAT HE PROMISED

US.

SENATOR MARCO RUBIO IS

MAKING THE SAME PROMISES,

LIKE REAL BORDER SECURITY --

PROMISE BROKEN.

I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY

RADIO LISTENERS, THEY THINK

IT IS TIME TO STOP DIVIDING

THE POLITICAL PARTIES.

Reporter: AND RUBIO IS

CONSIDERED BY MANY TO BE A

G.O.P. FRONT-RUNNER FOR

PRESIDENT IN 2016.

HIS SUPPORT FOR IMMIGRATION

REFORM, HOWEVER, MIGHT HURT

HIS STANDING WITH

CONSERVATIVES IN THE

PRIMARIES.

THE DAY I START MAKING

DECISIONS AROUND HERE WITH

THE MIND TOWARDS WHAT OTHER

OFFICE I WANT TO RUN FOR,

I'LL NO LONGER BE VERY

EFFECTIVE.

WHATEVER IS GOING TO HAPPEN

ON THIS ISSUE AND WHATEVER

IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO ME,

GOD HAS ALREADY PLANNED TO

ME.

MY JOB IS TO JUST BE

OBEDIENT.

LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, I

STRUGGLE WITH THAT BECAUSE

THE HUMAN SIDE WANTS US TO

THINK ABOUT THE HERE AND

NOW.

IF YOU TRY TO APPROACH EVERY

ISSUE WITH THAT VIEWPOINT,

IT WILL GIVE YOU A CALMING

VIEWPOINT.

Lee: PAT, I BELIEVE IF

CONSERVATIVES HAD THE

ASSURANCE THAT THE

ADMINISTRATION, THAT THE

GOVERNMENT WAS WILLING TO

SECURE THE BORDERS, AND

SECURE THE BORDER WELL, THEY

MIGHT GO ALONG WITH THIS.

Pat: I THINK YOU'RE

RIGHT, ESPECIALLY THE

EVANGELICALS.

I HAVE A GREAT LOVE IN MY

HEART FOR HISPANIC PEOPLE.

I'VE WORKED SO MUCH IN

LATIN-AMERICA WITH SO MANY

PEOPLE.

WE REALIZE THAT THESE

PEOPLE, FRANKLY, SHARE OUR

PHILOSOPHY.

THEY BELIEVE IN GOD, THEY

BELIEVE IN PERSONAL

FREEDOM.

THEY BELIEVE IN ALL OF THE

THINGS WE HOLD DEAR.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN

STIGMATIZED AS BEING WET

WETBACKS AND VOSEROS AND ALL

OF THAT STUFF.

WE CAN'T HAVE THAT ANYMORE.

JUST FROM AN ECONOMIC

STANDPOINT, WE NEED FARM

LABOR TO HAUL IN OUR CROPS.

WE CAN'T GET THE CROPS IN

WITHOUT THE LABOR.

THE AMERICAN WORKER WON'T DO

THAT ANY LONGER.

WE NEED THESE PEOPLE COMING

IN.

AND WE ALSO NEED HIGH-TECH

SKILLS.

WE TRAIN PEOPLE FROM INDIA

AND CHINA AND OTHER PLACES

AROUND THE WORLD, AND THEY

LEAVE HERE WITH THESE

TREMENDOUS SKILLS.

INSTEAD OF WELCOMING THEM

AND SAYING, WE NEED YOU IN

OUR HIGH-TECH INDUSTRY.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE

WITH KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS TO

HELP US WITH THESE

TECHNOLOGICAL PROBLEMS.

INSTEAD OF THAT, WE

STIGMATIZE THEM.

IT IS A CONFUSED, BROKEN

POLICY.

AND RUBIO IS TRYING TO TAKE

A PRINCIPLE STAND.

LEE, AS YOU SAY, I BELIEVE

THAT THE EVANGELICALS,

PARTICULARLY, WHEN THEY

BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE LOVE

THAT WE HAVE IN OUR HEARTS

FOR THE HISPANIC ESPECIALLY,

LATINOS -- WHATEVER TERM YOU

WANT TO USE -- AND HOW CLOSE

WE ARE IN PHILOSOPHY TO

PEOPLE WHO ARE PRO-GOD,

PRO-FAMILY, PRO-CHURCH, ALL

OF THOSE OTHER THINGS, WE

WILL BEGIN TO SAY LET'S

CRAFT LEGISLATION THAT WILL

ACCOMMODATE THEM, BRING THEM

INTO THE FOLD, BRING THEM

OUT OF THE DARKNESS.

AND WHAT HAS BEEN SHOWN ALSO

IS THAT WHEN THESE PEOPLE

ARE LEGAL AND THEY START

WORKING AND PAYING TAXES,

THEY'RE NOT A DRAIN ON

SOCIETY.

THEY'RE A NET ADDITION

FINANCIALLY TO THE SOCIETY.

IT IS A PLUS FOR ALL OF US.

LEE?

Lee: PAT, THE SWEDISH

GOVERNMENT HAS DECIDED NOT

TO DEPORT A CHRISTIAN BACK

TO HIS HOME COUNTRY OF

IRAN.

RAZA JABARI FACED A POSSIBLE

PRISON SENTENCE AND TORTURE

IF HE WAS FORCED TO RETURN.

IT APPEARED THAT'S THE

SWEDISH GOVERNMENT WAS

PREPARED TO DO, DESPITE HIS

TESTIMONY.

BUT NOW IT IS ALLOWING HIM

TO BECOME A PERMANENT

RESIDENT.

HIS PASTOR SAYS CBN'S STORY

ABOUT JA JABARI'S STORY

CHANGED THE SWEDISH

GOVERNMENT'S DECISION.

THE JUDGE HAS DECIDEED TO

CHANGE HIS ORDER TO ALLOW

GIRLS OF ANY AGE TO BUY A

PRESCRIPTION FOR THE

MORNING-AFTER PILL.

NOW THE ADMINISTRATION SAYS

IT IS ENDING AN APPEAL AND

WILL ABIDE BY A JUDGE'S

ORDER TO MAKE PLAN "B"

AVAILABLE TO WOMEN AND

GIRLS.

OPPONENTS ARGUE THAT PARENTS

AND MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS

SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN MAJOR

MEDICAL DECISIONS INVOLVING

YOUNG GIRLS.

THE BOY SCOUTS NEW POLICY TO

ALLOW GAY MEMBERS IS ON THE

AGENDA OF THE SOUTHERN

BAPTIST CONVENTION ANNUAL

MEETING.

THE PRESIDENT OF THE

CONVENTION, FRANK PAIGE,

SAYS HE ENCOURAGES AN

EXITOUS TO THE BOY SCOUTS.

HE WOULD LIKE PEOPLE TO

CONSIDER THE ALTERNATIVE

PROGRAMS.

PAIGE ALSO TOLD CBN NEWS HE

IS DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT

THE CULTURE'S MINDSET TO

SCOUTING.

I BELIEVE THE DAY WILL

COME, SOON, WHERE WE WILL

SEE NOT ONLY ANTAGONISM, AND

NOT ONLY HESITANCY TO HELP,

OR TO EVEN ENCOURAGE

CHURCHES AND CHRISTIAN WORK,

BUT AN ACTIVE PERSECUTION

THERE OF.

WE'RE SEEING IT AROUND THE

WORLD.

I BELIEVE WE WILL SEE IT

HERE IN MY LIFETIME.

Lee: AND, PAT, THE

SOUTHERN BAPTIST ANNUAL

CONVENTION IS GOING ON TODAY

AND TOMORROW IN HOUSTON.

Pat: YOU KNOW, LEE, IT

IS A TERRIBLE SHAME WHEN

PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMOSEXUAL

AMOUNT TO MAXIMUM 2% OF THE

POPULATION.

THOSE WHO ARE LESBIANS,

ABOUT 1%.

IT IS A TINY MINORITY.

BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO RIP

APART THE FRAMEWORK OF

TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, TO RIP

APART AN ORGANIZATION THAT

HAS DONE SO MUCH GOOD FOR

YOUNG PEOPLE, THE BOY

SCOUTS, TO RIP APART SOME OF

THESE OTHER THINGS WE HAVE

COUNTED AS IMPORTANT IN OUR

SOCIETY.

ALL FOR ONE THING, THAT THE

WAY THEY DO SEX WILL BE BE

ACCEPTED IN THE MAINSTREAM

OF SOCIETY.

2% DECIDING WHAT THE REST OF

US DOES, AND THEY'RE WILLING

TO DESTROY IT.

AND HOLLYWOOD AND THE

SO-CALLED LIBERAL MEDIA HAS

JUMPED ON BOARD THAT THIS IS

THE NEW CIVIL RIGHTS.

WELL, I DON'T THINK SO.

IN ANY EVENT, IT BREAKS YOUR

HEART TO SEE THE BOY

SCOUTS -- BECAUSE MANY OF

THESE TROOPS ARE HOUSED IN

CHURCHES, AND THEY'VE BEEN

SPONSORED BY CHURCHES.

AND THEY HAVE FORGOTTEN

COUNTRY, AND THAT IS THERE

MOTTO, MORALLY STRAIGHT --

THESE ARE THE PLEDGES THEY

MAKE.

AND IT HAS BEEN A MARVELOUS

INSTITUTION.

AND TO SEE THAT TORN UP IN

ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE A FEW

KIDS THAT WANT TO DO SEX

WITH EACH OTHER, IT JUST

BOGGLES THE MIND.

LEE?

Lee: PAT, THE STANDARD

AND POOR'S CREDIT RATING

SERVICE HAS A BETTER OUTLOOK

FOR THE GOVERNMENT'S

FINANCES.

THE AGENCY HAS UPGRADED ITS

RATINGS FOR U.S. TREASURY

BONDS.

POINTING TO THE BETTER

ECONOMY AND LESS POLITICAL

FIGHTING OVER SPENDING.

INVESTORS HAVE BEEN BUYING

U.S. BONDS FOR YEARS, AND IT

HAS KEPT INTEREST RATES

LOW.

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE TIM

TEEBOW'S CARE IN THE

NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE

ISN'T OVER YET.

IT IS SAID HE WILL SIGNTHE

NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS.

AND IT WILL NOT GENERATE ANY

KIND OF QUARTERBACK

CONTROVERSY THERE.

AND TWO, PATRIOTS COACH,

BILL BELICHICK HAS HAD

SUCCESS IN SIGNING

HIGH-PROFILE PLAYERS THAT NO

OTHER TEAM SEEMS TO WANTS.

THE SO-CALLED EXPERTS SAYS

HE IS NOT NFL MATERIAL

BECAUSE IT TAKES HIM TOO

LONG TO THROW THE BALL, PLUS

HE HAS BEEN VERY PUBLIC

ABOUT HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH.

BUT NONE OF THAT SEEMS TO

BOTHER TIM TEBOW, BECAUSE HE

SAYS HE IS INTENT ON PLAYING

FOOTBALL AND GLORIFYING GOD

IN THE PROCESS.

Pat: I THINK THE

TREATMENT OF TIM TEBOW BY

THE NEW YORK JETS IS NOTHING

SHORT OF SHAMEFUL.

HIS QUARTERBACK WASN'T

LIVING UP, AND LOSING GAME,

AND TEBOW WAS TREMENDOUS.

HE COULD HAVE MADE A

TREMENDOUS FULLBACK IF

THAT'S WHAT THEY USED HIM

FOR.

BUT THEY JUST -- I DON'T

KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

RYAN, THE COACH, APPARENTLY

HAD A THING ABOUT TEBOW.

HE WASN'T GOING TO USE HIM

REGARDLESS.

REGARDLESS.

WELL, BILL BELICHICK, HE HAS

A LOT OF COURAGE.

HE'LL GET TEBOW MAKING AT

LEAST 10 TOUCHDOWNS BY NEXT

SEASON BY GIVING HIM THE

BALL.

Terry: HE HAS A LOT OF

EXPERIENCE TO BACK UP HIS

ABILITY TO DO THAT.

Pat: LOOK WHAT TEBOW

DID OUT IN DENVER.

HE ROUSED THE TEAM.

Terry: A GREAT

ATTITUDE?

Pat: A GREAT ATTITUDE.

AND MAN, HAS HE GOT

MUSCLES.

HE HAS BEEN WORKING OUT.

HE HAS THIS CHEST AND

MUSCLES.

ANYHOW, THE JETS OUGHT TO

GET THE GOAT OF THE YEAR

AWARD.

TERRY?

Terry: COMING UP, WE

TRAVEL TO A MOSQUE IN

DAGESTAN, WHERE ONE OF THE

BOSTON BOMBERS MADE REGULAR

VISITS AND MET TWO

TERRORISTS.

PLUS, CHRISTIANS RISK THEIR

LIVES TO TELL WHAT IS REALLY

GOING ON.

Pat: WELL, MANY OF US

HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THE

CAUCUS.

WE'VE HEARD OF CHECHNYA

BECAUSE THEY MADE SO MUCH

TROUBLE, BUT DAGESTAN, NORTH

CAUCASIAN -- WHOEVER HEARD

OF THAT.

RIGHT NOW THEY'RE IN THE

HEADLINES BECAUSE THOSE

BOSTON BOMBERS CAME FROM

DAGSTAN.

AND THE TWO BROTHERS

SUSPECTED OF CARRYING OUT

THE ATTACKS LIVED IN THIS

VIOLENT AREA OF RUSSIA

BEFORE THEY MOVED TO THE

UNITED STATES.

AS GEORGE THOMAS FOUND OUT,

RADICAL MUSLIMS ARE STILL

FIGHTING FOR CONTROL OF THAT

REGION.

Reporter: IN A SMALL

THREE BEDROOM HOUSE ON THE

OUTSKIRTS OF TOWN, RAMZA AND

HIS WIFE SPEND A FEW QUIET

MOMENTS READING THE BIBLE

AND PRAYING.

I'M NOT A POLITICAL

PERSON, NEVER HAVE BEEN,

NEVER WANT TO BE.

MY FOCUS IS ON LOVING

PEOPLE.

Reporter: SPEAKING ON

THE CONDITION WE HIDE HIS

IDENTITY, RAMZA IS AMONG A

HANDFUL OF PEOPLE SECRETING

SHARING THE GOSPEL IN ONE OF

RUSSIA'S MOST DANGEROUS

PLACES.

I'VE BEEN ARRESTED MANY

TIMES, AND CONSTANTLY

WATCHED, BUT I WILL NEVER

STOP PREACHING.

THIS IS MY HOME.

Reporter: HOME IS THE

NORTH CAUCUS' REGION.

FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES,

RADICAL MUSLIMS HAVE FOUGHT

RUSSIAN FORCES ALMOST DAILY

TO TAKE OVER THE REGION FOR

ISLAM.

THEIR GOAL, TO TURN FIVE

RUSSIAN REPUBLICS, INCLUDING

CHECHNYA AND DAGSTAN, TO ONE

HUGE AREA.

PEOPLE OF NORT CAUCUSES

PREVIOUSLY -- THEY EMBRACE

ISLAM.

George: THE TWO BOSTON

MARATHON BOMBERS LIVED THERE

BEFORE MOVING TWO THE U.S.

TAMERLAN TSARNAEV SPENT SIX

MONTHS HERE IN DAGSTAN.

CBN NEWS TRIED TO GET AN

ON-CAMERA INTERVIEW WITH THE

IMAM, AND HE REFUSED.

TATAMERLAN MET TWO OF THEM

BEFORE THE SHOOTING.

INVESTIGATORS HAVE YET TO

ESTABLISH IF HE RECEIVED ANY

TRAINING OR HAD ANY LINKS TO

THE OPERATES OPERATING IN

THE REGION.

RUSSIA FOUGHT TWO BRUTAL WAR

AGAINST THE CHECHNYAN

FIGHTERS.

THIS MAN WAS ONLY A YEAR OLD

WHEN THIS WAR STARTED.

WHEN I GREW OLDER, I

HEARD STORIES FROM MY

PARENTS OF HOW HORRIBLE IT

WAS BACK THEN.

Reporter: TENS OF

THOUSANDS WERE KILLED, AND

HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

CHECHYNANS MISPLACED.

I REMEMBER MY PARENTS AND

I CROSSING THE BORDER TO A

NEIGHBOURING PROVINCE ONCE

THE BOMBING STARTED.

Reporter: THE CAPITAL

CITY, CROSBY, WAS

DECIMATED.

THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HAS

BEEN POURING IN BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS, AND IN FACT TODAY

CHECHNYA RECEIVES THE MOST

MONEY OUT OF ALL 85

PROVINCES.

THE EVIDENCE IS EVERYWHERE.

REBUILT STREETS, WALLS ONCE

RIDDLED WITH BULLET HOLES

ARE GONE.

NEW APARTMENTS GOING UP.

SKYSCRAPERS RISING TO THE

SKIES.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE

COULD HAVE IMAGINED THE

CHANGES HAPPENING THIS

FAST.

Reporter: AND THE

KREMLIN IMPOSED A LEADER OF

CHECHNYA, WHO HAS RULED WITH

AN IRON FIST, CRACKING DOWN

SEVERELY ON RADICAL

ISLAMISTS IN THE PROVINCE.

HE HAS MANAGED TO KEEP

THEM UNDER CONTROL FOR NOW.

Reporter: BUT BENEATH

THE SURFACE, CHECHYNANS TWO

SCARED TO TALK ON CAMERA,

SPEAK OF A RISING ANGER

AGAINST THE RULING

AUTHORITIES.

JIHADISTS, WHO ONCE FOUGHT

ON THESE STREETS HAVE NOW

TAKEN THE FIGHT TO THE

NEIGHBORING PROVINCE OF

DAGESTAN.

THE BOMBERS IN RUSSIA ARE

CALLED BLACK WIDOWS BECAUSE

MANY ARE THE WIDOWS OF

ISLAMIC RADICALS KILLED BY

SECURITY FORCES.

MORE THAN A DOZEN BLACK

WIDOWS HAVE CARRIED OUT

SUICIDE MISSIONS SINCE

2000.

BACK IN 1999, A GROUP OF

RADICAL MUSLIMS ATTEMPTED TO

TURN DAGESTAN INTO AN

EMIRATE, THE RUSSIAN ARMY

STEPPED IN AND QUICKLY

STAMPED THAT OUT.

BUT SINCE THEN, THIS PLACE

HAS TODAY SOME 3,000 MOSQUES

AND GROWING.

SHASHA, ANOTHER SECRET

BELIEVER LIVED NEXT DOOR TO

A HOUSE THAT HAD A POLICE

RAID.

SASHA SAYS HE ACTIVELY

SHARES THE GOSPEL WITH

MUSLIMS IN THE NORTH

CAUCUSES, BUT IT ISN'T

EASY.

HE WAS TWICE BEATEN BY

MUSLIMS.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT GOD

WOULD PROTECT ME AS HIS

SON.

THEN I UNDERSTOOD IF WE HAVE

THE HONOR TO BELIEVE IN OUR

SAVIOR, WE HAVE THE HONOR TO

ENDURE THINGS HE WENT

THROUGH IN SOME WAYS.

WHEN WE ARE PERSECUTED AND

FEEL PHYSICAL PRESSURE IN

OUR LIVES, THEN WE START TO

UNDERSTAND AND FEEL HOW

CLOSE GOD IS TO US.

Reporter: THE PROVINCES

OF THE NORTH CAULK CUSSIONS

ARE ONE OF THE LEAST

EVANGELIZED PLACES ON

EARTH.

BUT FOR RAMZA, SASHA, AND

OTHER BELIEVERS WHO WORK

QUIETLY IN THE SHADOWS, IT

IS A RISK WORTH TAKING TO

MAKE THE NAME OF CHRIST

KNOWN.

ONLY JESUS CAN CHANGE

LIVES AND BRING THE HOPE

THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING

FOR.

Reporter: GEORGE

THOMAS, CBN NEWS, MAHAJALA,

DAGESTAN.

Pat: IT IS A FABULOUS

REPORT.

SOMETHING YOU WON'T HEAR ON

ANY OTHER TELEVISION

NETWORK.

GEORGE THOMAS DOES FABULOUS

WORK AND SHOWS WHAT IS GOING

ON.

WHAT A TROUBLED AREA.

THEY WANT TO MAKE THAT INTO

A CALIPHATE, ALL OF THOSE

PROVINCES TOGETHER.

I KNOW PEOPLE THINK PUTEN

PUTIN IS A RUTHLESS LEADER,

BUT IN THE PROVINCE OF

CHECHNYA, HE HAD NO CHOICE.

HE DID WHAT HE HAD TO DO,

AND NOW THEY'RE REBUILDING

SOMETHING THAT LOOKS REAL

PRETTY.

THEY'RE NOT ALLOWING THE

SPREAD OF RADICAL ISLAM IF

THEY CAN HELP IT.

BUT THAT'S AN AREA THAT IS A

BREEDING GROUND FOR TERROR.

AND I'M GLAD WE COULD PUT A

SPOTLIGHT ON WHAT IS

HAPPENING.

LET'S GO TO WHAT IS NEXT,

AND TERRY HAS OUR NEXT

STORY.

Terry: HE HAS BEEN

CALLED THE ACCIDENTAL

MUSICIAN.

FIND OUT WHY WHEN SINGER

BEBOW NORMAN JOINS US LIVE.

PLUS HE WILL REVEAL WHY HE

IS RETIRING FROM HIS CAREER

AT THE PEAK OF HIS CAREER.

AND HE'LL PERFORM THE SONG

THAT SAYS IT ALL.

.

Terry: WELL, HIS

4-YEAR-OLD SISTER COULDN'T

SAY BIG BROTHER, SO SHE JUST

STARTED CALLING HIM BEBO,

AND THAT'S HOW JEFFREY

STEVEN NORMAN GOT HIS NAME.

WHO KNEW?

AND IT HAS STUCK.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK BACK AT

THE CAREER OF THIS STELLER

SINGER AND SONGWRITER.

Reporter: BEBO NORMAN

WAS 17 WHEN HE PICKED UP A

GUITAR AND STARTED WRITING

SONGS.

AFTER COLLEGE, HE CHOSE

MUSIC OVER MED SCHOOL, TO

TRY HIS HAND AS A PERFORMING

ARTIST.

IN 1996, BEBO WAS PLAYING IN

COFFEE HOUSES, AND SOLD

50,000 SELF-MADE COPIES OF

HIS C.D. OUT OF HIS CAR.

IN 1999, HIS DEBUT ALBUM

OUTSOLD THE BACKSTREET BOYS

ON THE INTERNET.

SINCE THEN, HE HAS WON THE

HEARTS OF THOUSANDS OF LOYAL

FANS.

* AND YOU COME ALIVE

Reporter: HIS NEW C.D.,

"LIGHTS OF DISTANT CITIES"

BEBO PUT 20 YEARS OF

EXPERIENCE AND PERSPECTIVE

INTO SONGS THAT TESTIFY TO

AN UNCHANGING GOD.

Terry: WELL, WELCOME

BACK TO "THE 700 CLUB" BEBO

NORMAN.

[APPLAUSE]

Terry: JUST RECEIVE IT,

RIGHT?

JUST RECEIVE IT.

YOU REMIND ME OF MY MOM.

BEBO IS CUTE WHEN YOU'RE

FOUR, BUT NOT QUITE AS CUTE

WHEN YOUR 40.

Terry: I LIKE IT.

YOU JUST TURNED 40, BUT

YOU'RE AT THE PEAK OF YOUR

MUSIC CAREER, YOU HAVE A NEW

C.D. OUT, AND YOU ARE

RETIRING.

THAT IS BIZARRE.

I AM.

IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS

WHERE I JUST -- WHEN I WAS

COMING OUT OF COLLEGE AND

STARTED PLAYING MUSIC, MY

PLAN WAS MEDICAL SCHOOL.

THAT WAS IT, THE SAFE ROUTE,

WHAT I WANTED TO DO.

BUT I FELT LIKE GOD REALLY,

IN A VERY PROFOUND WAY,

CALLED ME TO THE UNSAFE

ROUTE, AND THAT WAS MUSIC.

THAT YEAR EXPERIMENT TURNED

INTO ALMOST 20 YEARS.

AND NOW I'M IN THIS PLACE

WHERE THE REALITY IS THE

SAFE ROUTE IS TO KEEP

PLAYING MUSIC.

AND I FEEL LIKE GOD IS

CALLING ME INTO SOME UNSAFE

TERRITORY.

I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT IT

IS YET.

Terry: YOU DON'T HAVE A

PLAN?

NO.

AND MY WIFE IS LIKE, YOU

DON'T HAVE A PLAN.

BUT SHE HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.

BUT I FEEL MORE CALLED AWAY

TO LAY MUSIC DOWN THAN I

FEEL CALLED TOWARD SOMETHING

SPECIFIC YET.

THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS I

LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING

INTO.

Terry: IS MEDICAL

SCHOOL STILL A DREAM, OR

NO?

ACTUALLY -- NO, IT IS NOT

A DREAM.

I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION

WITH A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS

A DOCTOR, AND HE IS, LIKE,

MAN SO MANY OF MY PEOPLE WHO

WERE IN MEDICAL SCHOOL WITH

ME WERE 35, 40-YEAR-OLD MEN,

BUT A LOT OF WHY I WANT TO

BE HOME IS TO BE HOME AND BE

WITH MY FAMILY.

FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS I'VE

BEEN GONE SO MUCH.

MY YOUNG BOYS --

Terry: I UNDERSTAND

THAT.

HOW OLD ARE YOUR SONS?

I HAVE A 6-YEAR-OLD AND A

3-YEAR-OLD.

AND THEY'RE JUST STARTING TO

PLAY SPORTS IN THEIR SCHOOL

AND ALL OF THAT.

THERE ARE SO MANY TIMING

THINGS ABOUT HOW ALL OF THIS

HAPPENED, AND IT IS

CONFIRMATION AFTER

CONFIRMATION -- IT'S JUST

WHERE I'M SUPPOSED TO BE.

Terry: PEOPLE DON'T

REALIZE SOMETIMES THE PRICE

YOU PAY TO BE A SINGER,

SONGWRITER, A MUSICIAN, BUT

IT IS LIFE ON THE ROAD.

IT IS.

Terry: YOU'RE NEW C.D.

IS CALLED "LIFE THE DISTANT

CITIES."

TELL ME ABOUT THAT.

WELL, IT'S THAT MOMENT

THAT YOU LOOK UP AND YOU SEE

SOMETHING THAT IS VERY CLEAR

AND VERY POIGNANT COMING OUT

OF A SEASON OF DARKNESS.

AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW THIS

MADE SENSE TO ME.

TO BE HONEST, EVEN PUTTING

IT INTO THE CONTEXT OF

RETIREMENT -- I DIDN'T WRITE

THIS RECORD THINKING I WAS

GOING TO RETIRE, BUT THERE

IS SO MUCH FORESHADOWING

WITH THAT.

YOU'RE IN A SEASON WHERE

YOU'RE NOT SURE, AND THEN

YOU GET YOUR FIRST GLIMPSE

AT DIRECTION.

AND THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT

HAPPENED, WHEN I REALIZED IT

WAS THIS QUICK FIRST GLIMPSE

AT DIRECTION TOWARDS LAYING

THIS MUSIC THING DOWN.

Terry: I HAVE SO MUCH

ADMIRATION FOR YOU, THAT

YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY LISTENING

CLOSELY TO WHAT GOD IS

SPEAKING TO YOUR HEART, AND

YOU'RE FALLING WHAT YOU

THINK HE IS SAYING.

YOU'RE GOING TO SING A SONG

FOR US TODAY THAT YOU SAID

REALLY SAYS IT ALL.

TELL ME ABOUT IT.

YEAH.

IT IS A SONG CALLED "SING OF

YOUR GLORY."

AGAIN, I DIDN'T WRITE THIS

THINKING I'M GOING TO

RETIRE, BUT IT SPEAKS VERY

POIGNANTLY TO WHEN I FIRST

STARTED OUT AND FELT THIS

CALL TOWARDS MUSIC, AND ALSO

STILL FELT THIS GREAT FEAR.

BUT I WAS GOING TO SING OF

GOD'S GLORY, I WAS GOING TO

SING OF GOD'S GLORY, AND IT

REPEATS ITSELF OVER AND

OVER.

AND THEN YOU SORT OF

TRANSITION INTO THIS PLACE

WHERE YOU REALIZE LIFE

CHANGES, AND DREAMS CHANGES

AND THE WORLD CHANGES.

THERE IS THIS NEW SEASON OF

GOING INTO A DIFFERENT

DIRECTION, BUT I'M CONVINCED

MY CALL IN LIFE, WHATEVER

I'M DOING, WHEREVER I'M

HEADING, TO SING THE GLORY

OF GOD.

THAT MIGHT BE WITH SONGS OR

WITH RELATIONSHIPS.

WHO KNOWS WHAT THE REST OF

LIFE LOOKS LIKE.

Terry: THE DECISION

YOU'RE MAKING IS A GREAT

INSPIRATION FOR ALL OF US TO

FOLLOW THE SPIRIT.

SOMETIMES GOD CAN'T GIVE YOU

THE NEW UNTIL YOU LET GO OF

THE OLD.

I FEEL THAT IS VERY TRUE

IN MY LIFE.

THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH

IT.

Terry: I'M GOING TO LET

YOU MOVE OVER TO THE SPOT SO

YOU CAN SING WITH US.

BEBO'S LATEST C.D. IS CALLED

"LIGHTS OF DISTANT CITIES."

IT IS AVAILABLE WHEREVER

MUSIC IS SOLD.

YOU WANT TO GET AHOLD OF

THIS.

RIGHT NOW HERE IS BEBO

NORMAN WITH "I SING OF YOUR

GLORY."

*

* JUST OUTSIDE MY WINDOW

* AND JUST OUTSIDE MY

HOUSE *

* I HEARD A VOICE CALL OUT

TO ME *

* AND I FOLLOW

* BUT JUST BELOW THE

SURFACE *

* AND JUST ABOVE THE

LIGHTS *

* I'M STILL AFRAID OF THE

TIME THAT I HAVE HERE *

* AND ALL MY HEART

* AND ALL MY SOUL

* ALL MY FAITH IN JESUS

* I FORESEE YOUR GLORY

NOW *

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW AND

FOREVER *

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW AND

FOREVER *

* WHEN THE SECRET WAS

SHATTERED IN THE FALLOUT *

* AND MY FEET CAN NO LONGER

CARRY *

* WHEN LOVE IS NOT APPEALING

*

* AND HOPE FEELS LOST

* THE GROUND BENEATH MY FEET

SUDDENLY SHIFTS *

* AND ALLx? MY HEART *

* AND ALL MY SOUL

* AND ALL MY FAITH

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY SNOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* AND FOREVER

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW AND

FOREVER *

* ALL MY SECRET TIES

* BIND MY FEELINGS

* HOLD TIGHT THE SECRET

TIES *

* THAT BIND MY WEARY SOUL

* OH, GOD OF LIFE

*

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW *

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* AND FOREVER

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW

*

* I SEE YOUR GLORY NOW AND

FOREVER *

* FOREVER

* FOREVER

[APPLAUSE]

Terry: STILL AHEAD...

MY ARM HAD ABSCESSED AND

HAD SWELLED UP THE SIZE OF A

GRAPEFRUIT.

Wendy: A DESPERATE DRUG

ADDICT.

BUT I WAS STILL INJECTING

IN THE OTHER ARM.

Wendy: ON A NEAR FATAL

BENDER.

I WAS AT THE LAST STAGE

BEFORE DEATH.

WEMPLET.

Wendy:

Wendy: AND THE PHONE

CALL THAT SAVED HER LIFE.

Lee: AND WELCOME BACK

TO WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN

NEWS BREAK.

A MULTI-DENOMINATIONAL GROUP

OF OHIO CHURCHES IS WORRIED

THAT THE PRESIDENT'S HEALTH

CARE LAW DOES NOT PROTECT

RELIGIOUS LIBERTY.

THE OHIO COUNCIL OF CHURCHES

IS CALLING FOR MORE TO BE

DONE TO BROADEN THE

RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION IN THE

PLAN'S CONTRACEPTION

MANDATE.

THE GROUP SAYS IT DOESN'T

OPPOSE MOST OF OBAMACARE.

BUT IT IS CONCERNED ABOUT

THE IMPACT OF RELIGIOUS

CHARITIES, HOSPITALS, AS

WELL AS UNIVERSITIES.

HUNDREDS OF TURKISH RIOT

POLICE MOVED IN ON

ANTI-GOVERNMENT PROTESTORS

IN ISTANBUL, TURKEY TODAY.

BLASTING THEM WITH RUBBER

BULLETS AND TEAR GAS.

THEY FORCED THEM OUT OF

TAKSIM SQUARE.

AND THEY BROKE UP OTHER

PROTESTS IN ANCHORA.

THEY ACCUSED PRIME MINISTER

ERDOGAN OF TRYING TO TURN

TURKEY INTO AN ISLAMIC

STATE.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

AFTER THIS.

Pat: WELL, WELCOME

BACK, AS WE CONTINUE THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

IF YOU SAW AMY LAMBERT TODAY

YOU WOULD NEVER GUESS THAT

AMY WAS ONCE HOLD UP IN A

CRACK MOTEL ON THE VIRGE OF

DYING.

AMY IS NOW A HEALTHY,

BEAUTIFUL YOUNG WOMAN,

THANKS TO THE TENACITY OF A

PRAYING MOTHER.

I REMEMBER WHEN I FOUND

OUT SHE WAS SHOOTING UP.

THAT WAS SUCH A DARK MOMENT

FOR ME.

I REMEMBER I WAS DRIVING

DOWN THE ROAD.

I REMEMBER WHERE I WAS.

AND THE LORD SPOKE TO ME

THROUGH A SONG THAT WAS

PLAYING ON THE RADIO.

AND HE SAID, YOU CAN TRUST

ME.

I STARTED USING DRUGS

WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD.

AND IT CAME THROUGH MY

PARENTS' DIVORCE.

I TURNED AWAY FROM THE LORD,

TURNED AWAY FROM CHURCH.

I WAS VERY DEFECTIVE.

I DEFEATED MY FAMILY, SAYING

THAT I WAS JUST GOING FOR A

NICE SLEEPOVER AT MY

GIRLFRIEND'S HOUSE.

BUT WE WOULD GO OVER THERE,

AND I WAS INTRODUCED TO HARD

DRUGS.

MARIJUANA, PAIN PILLS,

COCAINE.

SHE HID IT VERY, VERY

WELL BECAUSE I CHECKED UP ON

HER.

I CHECKED HER ROOM.

I DID ALL OF THE THINGS THAT

MOMS DO.

AFTER I GRADUATED FROM

HIGH SCHOOL, I BASICALLY

WENT OUT ON THE STREETS.

IT WAS A REALLY HARD TIME IN

MY LIFE, NOT KNOWING WHERE

AMY WAS AT AND WHAT WAS

GOING ON IN HER HEART.

MY MOTHER'S HEART WAS

CRYING.

I'LL NEVER FORGET BEING

AT A FRIEND'S HOUSE ONE

NIGHT, AND THE PEOPLE I WERE

WITH SAID IF YOU SHOOT IT

UP, YOU'LL FEEL IT A LOT

MORE.

AND I MADE A DECISION THAT

NIGHT TO INJECT.

AND I WAS INSTANTLY ADDICTED

TO THE NEEDLE.

MY DRUG OF CHOICE WAS

OXYCONTIN.

I CONTINUED MEETING DRUG

DEALERS, STARTED SELLING,

AND THROUGH THAT, MY

ADDICTION GOT TO THE LEVEL

WHERE I WAS INJECTING 20, 30

TIMES A DAY AND LIVED IN

CRACK HOUSES, HEROIN HOUSES,

OUT ON THE STREETS,

ABANDONED BUILDINGS.

AND IT JUST CONSUMED MY

LIFE.

YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A

CHILD THAT HAS THIS KIND OF

PROBLEM, YOU HAVE TO GO TO

WARFARE FOR THEM.

IT IS A BATTLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, AVE EVER DAY

IT WAS MY MISSION IN LIFE.

I WAS NOT GOING TO RECEIVE

NO FOR AN ANSWER.

I KNEW I WASN'T, AND I KNOW

THAT GOD IS ABLE, AND HE IS

A BIG GOD.

ONE NIGHT THE LORD WOKE

MY MOM UP, AND HE WOKE ME,

AND TOLD ME TO GO NOW.

IT WAS URGENT, GO KNOW.

HE SAYS NOW.

PRAY AS YOUR SEED, AND BREAK

THE POWER OF THIS ADDICTION

OVER HER LIFE.

AFTER THAT PRAYER, IT WAS

LIKE THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS ON

ME.

I WOULD BE OUT IN RANDOM

PLACES, AND GOD STARTED

SENDING STRANGERS UP TO ME,

AND TELLING ME THE SAME

THING OVER AND OVER.

GOD LOVES YOU.

HE HAS A FUTURE FOR YOU.

HE HAS A HOPE FOR YOU.

AND THE LORD REALLY USED

THAT TO SOFTEN MY HEART.

DURING THIS TIME PERIOD,

I WAS ALSO TALKING TO MY

BROTHER A LOT ON THE PHONE,

AND I WAS POURING MY HEART

OUT TO HIM, AND HE INVITED

ME TO GO TO CHURCH WITH

HIM.

I REMEMBER SITTING IN THAT

SERVICE AND MY HEART WAS

BEATING OUT OF MY CHEST.

BECAUSE AFTER THE SERVICE

WAS OVER, THIS LADY WALKED

UP TO ME, AND SHE SAID, THE

LORD TOLD ME THAT SERVICE

WAS FOR YOU.

SHE GAVE ME HER PHONE NUMBER

AND SAID IF YOU EVER NEED

ME, CALL ME.

BUT I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO

RESPOND.

I CONTINUED WITH MY

ADDICTION.

THE POINT IS NEVER, NEVER

GIVE UP.

NO MATTER HOW DARK IT GETS,

DO NOT GET UP.

I WAS LAYING IN THE BED, AND

I HEARD IT WAS A REALLY

DISTRESSED "MOM."

AND THERE WAS NO AMY, SO I

KNEW AMY WAS IN DISTRESS.

SO I BEGAN TO PRAY FOR HER.

THAT NIGHT I WAS IN A

CRACK HOTEL, AND I SHOT UP

70 TIMES.

I DRANK A BOTTLE OF LIQUOR.

AND AT ONE POINT I SHOT UP

AND COMPLETELY MISSED THE

VEIN IN MY ARM.

I RECEIVED A PHONE CALL

ABOUT 5:00 IN THE MORNING

FROM HER, SAYING, MOM, I'M

IN TROUBLE; COME AND GET

ME.

MY ARM HAD ABSCESSED AND

SWELLED UP THE SIZE OF A

GRAPEFRUIT.

I'LL NEVER FORGET, I WAS

WAITING FOR HER TO COME AND

PICK ME UP, AND I WAS IN

SUCH SEVERE PAIN BECAUSE OF

THE ABSCESS.

BUT I WAS STILL INJECTING IN

MY OTHER ARM BECAUSE I

PHYSICALLY NEEDED THAT TO

SURVIVE.

SO I HAD TO GO AND PICK

UP MY DAUGHTER AND TAKE HER

TO THE HOSPITAL.

THEY ALMOST HAD TO

AMPUTATE MY ARM BECAUSE OF

THE ABSCESS.

BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO SAVE

IT.

AND THEY PULLED MY FAMILY IN

A ROOM AND TOLD MY FAMILY

THAT OF THE STAGES OF DRUG

ADDICTION, I WAS AT THE LAST

STAGE BEFORE DEATH AND TO

PREPARE FOR MY FUNERAL.

I REMEMBER THAT LADY FROM

THE CHURCH.

I WANT YOU TO CALL HER

AND TELL HER THAT I'M READY

TO TALK TO SOMEBODY.

SO SHE CAME AND SHE BEGAN TO

PRAY.

GOD USED HER TO SPEAK THINGS

INTO MY LIFE THAT THERE IS

NO WAY SHE COULD HAVE KNOWN

ABOUT.

AND I BROKE.

I STARTED BALLING.

AND SHE SAID, AMY, ARE YOU

READY?

ARE YOU READY TO SURRENDER

YOUR LIFE TO CHRIST?

AND SHE SAID YES.

SO WE ALL WITNESSED IT.

THE WHOLE FAMILY WAS THERE.

I WAS CHANGED FROM THE

INSIDE OUT.

AND EVEN THOUGH THE PHYSICAL

ADDICTION WAS STILL THERE, I

CHANGED ON THE INSIDE.

AND SO IT WASN'T AN INS

INSTANTANEOUS DELIVERANCE

FOR ME.

I WENT TO A PROGRAM FOR A

YEAR.

THAT'S WHERE I REALLY WENT

THROUGH INTENSIVE

COUNSELLING AND WAS ABLE TO

OVERCOME THE ADDICTION.

MY PASSION IS FOR THE LOST.

HE HAS CALLED ME TO BE AN

EVANGELIST.

AND MY HEART IS FOR THOSE

THAT ARE JUST LIKE I USED TO

BE.

THERE IS NOTHING ELSE

THAT CAN BE SAID EXCEPT THAT

IT IS A MIRACLE.

BECAUSE IN REALITY, SHE

SHOULDN'T BE ALIVE.

WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT ME

NOW, THEY CANNOT IMAGINE

THAT I CAME FROM THAT

LIFESTYLE.

I TELL THEM, I HAVE THE

SCARS THAT STILL REMAIN, THE

SCARS OF MY ARM.

TO WALK UP TO PEOPLE AND SAY

TO THEM, YOU KNOW, I WAS

STRUNG OUT.

I WAS ADDICTED.

BUT THE LORD BROUGHT ME

OUT.

HE CAN DO THE SAME THING FOR

YOU.

THERE IS SUCH POWER IN

THAT.

Pat: YOU SEE GOD SAW

AMY AS SH SHE COULD BE.

HE SAW AMY AS SHE IS NOW.

HE DIDN'T SEE THE OTHER.

AND HE SEES YOU, BEAUTIFUL,

CLOTHED IN THE RADIANCE OF

CHRIST.

CLOTHED WITH FINE LINEN,

WHICH IS THE RIGHTEOUSNESS

OF THE SAINTS.

HE SEES YOU AS A CHILD OF

HIS, REJOICING IN THE

PALACES IN HEAVEN.

HE DOESN'T SEE YOU DIRTY,

DISHEVELLED, FULL OF

DISEASE, FULL OF HATRED AND

MISERY, FULL OF CONFUSION

AND FEAR.

HE DOESN'T SEE THAT.

WHAT HE SEES IS WHAT YOU CAN

BE.

AND THAT'S WHY HE SAYS, IF

YOU'LL COME TO ME, I'LL MAKE

YOU BEAUTIFUL.

LOOK AT AMY.

SHE'S GORGEOUS.

BEAUTIFUL!

YOU SEE, THAT KID COULDN'T

POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN AN

ADDICT.

SHE COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE

BEEN SHOOTING UP HEROIN OR

OXYCONTIN, OR WHATEVER IT

WAS SHE WAS DOING.

SHE COULDN'T HAVE POSSIBLY

BEEN DOING THAT.

WELL, SHE WAS.

SHE WAS A HARD-CORE, ABOUT

TO DIE ADDICT.

BUT GOD SAYS, I HAVE A PLAN

FOR YOU.

HE HAS A PLAN FOR YOU.

AND WHAT HE SAYS IS, WILL

YOU TURN YOUR LIFE OVER TO

ME AND LET ME MAKE YOU

BEAUTIFUL.

SO I WANT YOU TO PRAY WITH

ME.

JUST ASK HIM -- ASK AND YOU

SHALL RECEIVE.

SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND.

KNOCK AND IT SHALL BE

OPENED.

ASK NOW THESE WORDS: LORD

JESUS CHRIST -- THAT'S

RIGHT, PRAY OUT WITH ME,

SILENTLY, OUT LOUD, BUT

PRAY.

LORD JESUS CHRIST, YOU KNOW

WHAT I'M LIKE, BUT SOMEHOW

YOU SEE ME AS A CHILD OF

GOD.

AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW,

LORD, RIGHT NOW, I'M SORRY

FOR WHAT I'VE DONE TO YOU,

WHAT I'VE DONE TO OTHERS,

WHAT I'VE DONE TO MYSELF.

FORGIVE ME, LORD.

CLEANSE ME, SET ME FREE.

AND FILL ME WITH YOURSELF.

I THANK YOU, LORD, THAT

YOU'VE HEARD MY PRAYER, AND

I THANK YOU THAT YOU'VE COME

INTO MY HEART.

NOW, FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO

PRAYED WITH ME, MAY THE

ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

TOUCH THEM.

SET THEM FREE IN JESUS'

NAME.

AMEN.

WHOA!

THIS IS A WONDERFUL TIME FOR

YOU.

I WANT YOU TO GO TO YOUR

PHONES, AND I WANT YOU TO

TELL SOMEBODY.

THERE IS SOMEBODY ON THE

PHONE RIGHT NOW.

JUST SAY, I PRAYED WITH PAT

AND I'M FREE.

IF YOU WANT TO HAVE FURTHER

COUNSELLING, YOU CAN DO IT.

I WANT TO SEND YOU SOMETHING

CALLED "A NEW DAY."

IT HAS SOME VERY INTENSE

TEACHING IN HERE ABOUT WHAT

HAS HAPPENED AND WHAT YOU DO

NEXT.

I WANT TO GIVE THIS TO YOU

FREE.

THERE IS NO FINANCIAL

OBLIGATION.

AND IT IS A TOLL-FREE

NUMBER, 1-800-759-0700.

JUST SAY I PRAYED WITH THAT

GUY ON TV, I PRAYED WITH PAT

ROBERTSON, AND I GAVE MY

HEART TO THE LAW.

SOMEBODY IS HERE WHO LOVES

YOU.

YOU'RE FREE.

TALK ABOUT IT.

SPEAK FREEDOM.

SPEAK FREEDOM!

THE CHAINS ARE FALLING OFF.

YOU ARE FREE.

A CHILD OF GOD.

CALL THAT NUMBER RIGHT NOW.

SOMEBODY IS HERE WHO LOVES

YOU.

AND HERE IS TERRY.

Terry: WELL, UP NEXT,

TIME FOR YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

ROBERT WANTS TO KNOW HOW

SHOULD WE HANDLE PEOPLE FROM

CUTS COMING TO THE DOOR TO

WITNESS?

SHOULD WE LET THEM IN TO

SHOW THEM THEIR ERRORS OR

REFUSE THEIR ENTRY?

WE'LL BRING IT ON WITH

ROBERT'S QUESTION AND MORE

AFTER THIS.

*

Terry: WELL, IT'S

E-MAIL TIME, AND WE WANT TO

ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS

YOU'VE SENT IN.

PAT, THIS FIRST ONE COMES

FROM ROBERT WHO SAYS, "HOW

SHOULD WE HANDLE PEOPLE FROM

CULTS COMING TO THE DOOR TO

WITNESS.

SHOULD WE LET THEM IN TO

SHOW THEM THEIR DOCTRINEAL

ERRORS OR REFUSE THEIR

ENTRY?"

Pat: IT DEPENDS ON

YOU.

I CAN'T GIVE A BLANKET

ANSWER.

BECAUSE THEY MAY BE MORE

GIFTED THAN YOU AND SMARTER

THAN YOU, AND THEY MAY END

UP SWAYING YOU TO THEIR

SIDE.

I WOULDN'T LET THEM IN.

I HAVE DEALT WITH THESE

PEOPLE AND SHOWED THEM IN

THE BIBLE HOW THEY'RE WRONG

AND SO FORTH, BUT MOST OF

THEM ARE PRETTY FANATICAL.

IT DEPENDS ON THE

INDIVIDUAL.

YOU SAY SHOULD I?

I DON'T KNOW AND I DON'T

KNOW THE PEOPLE COMING TO

YOUR DOOR.

Terry: THE HOLY SPIRIT

USUALLY MEETS YOU IN THINGS

LIKE THAT.

Pat: EXACTLY.

BUT AS A BLANKET, I WOULD

SHUT THE DOOR.

BECAUSE THE AVERAGE PERSON

IS TRAINED IN THIS CULT

PHILOSOPHY AND YOU'RE NOT.

IT IS LIKE SAYING SHOULD I

GET IN THE RING WITH MIKE

TYSON OR SOMEBODY.

THE ANSWER IS NO.

HE'D KNOCK YOUR HEAD OFF.

Terry: EXACTLY.

THIS IS DANNY WHO SAYS,

"PAT, I RECENTLY DISCOVERED

THE OWNERS OF MY GYM ARE

AGNOSTIC.

WE WERE DISCUSSING

KINDERGARTEN FOR THEIR

CHILDREN WHEN THE MOTHER

SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT THEM TO

GO TO ANY

CHRISTIAN-AFFILIATED

SCHOOL.

THE PARENTS ARE ABOUT HALF

MY AGE AND VERY LIBERAL

MINDED.

I'M TORN BETWEEN LEAVING THE

GYM OR STAYING TO WITNESS,

WHICH I BELIEVE WOULD FALL

ON DEAF EARS.

WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

Pat: YOU ALL ARE ASKING

ME QUESTIONS THAT ONLY GOD

CAN SHOW YOU.

SHOULD YOU LEAVE THE GYM?

THE TRUTH IS THE APOSTLE

PAUL SAYS IF WE'RE NOT GOING

TO COMPANY WITH FORNICATORS

AND DRUNKARDS AND LIARS AND

CHEATS, WE WOULD HAVE TO

LEAVE THE WORLD.

YOU'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER

PEOPLE ALL THE TIME THAT

DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU

BELIEVE.

ARE THEY OUT PROSELYTIZING,

ARE THEY COMING AFTER YOU TO

TRY TO SWAY YOUR FAITH?

IS IT A PAIN IN THE NECK.

IF I'VE GOT A BIG STACK OF

WEIGHTS THAT I'M PUSHING, I

DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TELLING

ME ABOUT BEING AN AGNOSTIC.

I'M IN THE GYM TO WORK OUT.

IF HE IS LAYING THAT STUFF

ON YOU, FORGET IT.

GO TO SOME PLACE ELSE THAT

WOULD LEAVE YOU ALONE.

Terry: BUT ON THE OTHER

HAND, AND I KNOW YOU WOULD

AGREE WITH THIS, IF YOU HAVE

AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A

QUIET, GENTLE WITNESS TO

CHRIST, GO FOR IT.

Pat: YES.

GO FOR IT.

IT DEPENDS ON THE

CIRCUMSTANCES, THE PERSON,

WHAT IT IS.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO SIT

AROUND AND LISTEN TO THAT

STUFF IF THEY'RE PREACHING

THIS AGNOSTISM AT YOU.

Terry: I DON'T THINK

THEY ARE BECAUSE HE SOUNDED

SURPRISED WHEN THIS

CONVERSATION CAME UP.

I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU

ENCOURAGE US TO STAY BECAUSE

HOW WOULD PEOPLE KNOW THE

TRUTH IF WE ALL WALKED

AWAY --

Pat: YOU CAN'T.

YOU HAVE TO COMPANY WITH

PEOPLE IN THE WOR WORLD

WITH A DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE.

Terry: MICHELLE

SAYS, "IS IT THE CHURCH'S

RESPONSIBILITY TO OBSERVE

COMMUNION AND BAPTISM.

MY PASTOR AND HIS WIFE

PARTAKE OF COMMUNION IN

CHURCH, BUT NOT THE

CONGREGATION.

I THOUGHT I WAS LED HERE BY

THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND NOW I'M

NOT SURE.

PLEASE HELP."

Pat: I DON'T THINK THE

HOLY SPIRIT LED YOU.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CULT.

WE GET QUESTIONS THAT ARE SO

WEIRD.

YOU THINK, WHAT IS GOING ON

IN THESE CHURCHES.

THIS IS WEIRD.

OF COURSE YOU HAVE COMMUNION

IN THE CHURCH.

Terry: THE WHOLE

PURPOSE OF THAT IS THAT WE

DO IT --

Pat: TOGETHER.

Terry: THAT'S RIGHT.

Pat: WE MEET TOGETHER

TO SHARE THE LORD'S SUPPER.

THE ASSEMBLY OF YOURSELVES

TOGETHER.

AND YES, THE BAPTISM --

BEING A BAPTIST, WE HAVE A

BAPTISTRY IN THE CENTER PART

OF YOUR CHURCH.

GO SOME PLACE ELSE.

LIFE IS TOO SHORT.

Terry: THIS IS JOYCE

WHO SAYS, "HOW DO WE KNOW

WHICH OLD TESTAMENT PROMISES

AND LAWS ARE FOR CHRISTIANS

AND WHICH ARE SOLELY FOR THE

JEWS?"

Pat: JESUS MADE THIS

STATEMENT THAT SAID, UNTIL

ALL THINGS ARE FULFILLED,

NOT ONE JOT OR TIDDLE -- NOT

ANY OF THAT WILL BE REMOVED

FROM THE LAW UNTIL ALL THAT

IS FULFILLED.

AND SOME OF THESE THINGS

WERE FULFILLED.

THE DIETARY LAWS WERE

FULFILLED.

BUT THE MORAL LAW, THE LAW

ABOUT LOVING GOD AND

HONORING YOUR PARENTS AND

NOT STEALING AND KILLING AND

LYING AND SO FORTH -- THAT'S

ALL PART OF THE FUNDAMENTAL

LAW OF GOD FOR ALL PEOPLE.

SO HOW DO YOU KNOW?

IF IT DEALT WITH EATING

OYSTERS OR SOMETHING, I

THINK THE LORD MADE --

Terry: GAVE US

FREEDOM.

Pat: GAVE US FREEDOM IN

TERMS OF DIETARY

RESTRICTIONS.

THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL SHOW

YOU.

Terry: THIS IS KAYLA

WHO SAYS, "WHO CREATED

DISEASES?

WAS IT GOD OR WAS IT

SATAN?"

Pat: NEITHER ONE.

I THINK IT IS US.

IT IS THE WORLD WE LIVE IN,

SUBJECT TO DECAY.

THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED

ENTROPY.

THAT SOUNDS IMPORTANT.

BUT IT MEANS SOPHISTICATED

SYSTEMS, HIGHLY DEVELOPED

SYSTEMS, TEND TO RUN DOWN.

WE HAD A PERFECT WORLD, AND

THERE WAS NO DISEASE AND NO

SICKNESS, AS LONG AS WE WERE

IN THE PRESENCE OF GOD.

WE LEAVE THE PRESENCE OF

GOD, AND DISEASES START.

WHO CREATED THEM?

THEY'RE IN THE NATURE OF THE

UNIVERSE AS IT DECAYS.

TOMORROW, THE CREATOR OF THE

SOUTH BEACH DIET.

HE IS A NICE GUY.

ARTHUR AGATSTON IS GOING TO

TELL US ABOUT MYTHS AND

GLUTEN.

TA WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS: "THE BLOOD OF JESUS

CHRIST CLEANSES FROM ALL

SIN."

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