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The 700 Club - June 27, 2013

Naghmeh Abedini shares how the imprisonment of her husband in Iran is affecting her faith and family. Plus, Ben Revere of the Philadelphia Phillies shares what keeps him grounded as a professional athlete. Read Transcript


HE'S NOT THE BIGGEST GUY

ON THE TEAM, BUT THOSE GUYS

CAN'T DO THIS.

HE CAUGHT A DIVING PLAY

BY REVERE.

Lee: MEET BEN REVERE,

AND HERE ABOUT HIS UNLIKELY

PATH TO THE BIG LEAGUES.

MY PARENTS ARE, LIKE,

WHAT'S GOING ON.

I'M, LIKE, I HAVE NO IDEA.

Lee: AND THEN, NINE

MONTHS BEHIND BARS.

INSIDE IRAN'S MOST MOTORIUS

PRISON.

WE'LL SI SIT DOWN WITH

NAGHMEH ABEDINI ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB."

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[APPLAUSE]

Pat: WELCOME, LADIES

AND GENTLEMEN, TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

THE SUPREME COURT HAS

FINALLY DONE IT.

5-4, 5-4, IT ISN'T EXACTLY

OVERWHELMING, BUT FIVE

JUSTICES HAVE DECIDED THAT

THE CONGRESS ISN'T GOING TO

BE ABLE TO DEFINE THE

BENEFITS THAT COME ABOUT

FROM HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.

AND THE BATTLE OVER SAME-SEX

MARRIAGE IS FAR FROM OVER,

DESPITE THE SUPREME COURT'S

RULING IN TWO CASES.

LEADERS ON BOTH SIDES SAY

THE ISSUE IS STILL UP TO THE

STATES FOR NOW.

SOME CHRISTIAN LEADERS SAY

BELIEVERS COULD BECOME A

TARGET IN FUTURE LAWSUITS

OVER MARRIAGE.

PAUL STRAND HAS THE STORY

FROM WASHINGTON.

Reporter: THE

INDIVIDUALS AND GROUPS, AS

WELL AS THEIR LAWYERS WHO

FOUGHT AGAINST DOMA AND

PROPOSITION 8 SAY THE NEXT

STEP IS TO BATTLE NATIONWIDE

FOR@@ LEGALIZED SAME-SEX

MARRIAGE EVERYWHERE.

WE CANNOT FORGET OUR

BROTHERS AND SISTERS THAT

ARE IN STATES THAT STILL

DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THEM.

WE WILL NOT ALLOW IT.

WITHIN FIVE YEARS, WE

WILL BRING MARRIAGE EQUALITY

TO ALL 50 STATES.

Reporter: 40% OF THE

POPULATION OF THE UNITED

STATES IS COVERED BY

MARRIAGE EQUALITY.

THE LAWYERS BATTLING

PROPOSITION 8 SAY IT IS

EFFECTIVELY DEAD BECAUSE THE

JUSTICES RULED THOSE

DEFENDING IT HAD NO STANDING

TO DEFEND IT.

THEY SAID THE PROPONENTS

HAVE NO CONCRETE INJURY.

THEY CANNOT POINT TO

ANYTHING THAT HARMS THEM

BECAUSE THESE TWO LOVING

COUPLES, AND COUPLES LIKE

THEM THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA,

ARE NOW GOING TO BE ABLE TO

GET MARRIED.

Reporter: THOSE ON THE

OTHER SIDE WEREN'T

NECESSARILY ADMITTING DEFEAT

ON PROP 8.

THEY SAY AT MOST, THE HIGH

COURT HAS THROWN CALIFORNIA

AND GAY MARRIAGE INTO

SOMEWHAT OF A LEGAL LIMBO.

WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO

THE CONTINUED ENFORCEMENT OF

PROPOSITION 8 UNTIL THERE IS

A STATEWIDE ORDER SAYING

OTHERWISE.

Reporter: EVEN AS IT

WIPED DOMA OUT, THE COURT

DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY

STATES HAVE TO LEGALIZE GAY

MARRIAGE.

SUPPORTERS OF TRADITIONAL

MARRIAGE HAVE A BEEF WITH

WHAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS

DONE HERE.

THEY'RE SAYING HOW CAN FIVE

JUSTICES DECIDE THESE

CRUCIAL QUESTIONS ABOUT

MARRIAGE WHEN THE VOTERS AND

LEGISLATORS IN 38 STATES

HAVE DECIDED DIFFERENTLY.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS

WITH GAY MARRIAGE IS IN MOST

STATES WHERE IT HAS BECOME

LEGAL, CHRISTIANS WHO STAND

UP TOO CLEARLY FOR

TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE END UP

GETTING BASHED, SOMETIMES

SUED.

COULD THAT HAVE NOW HAPPEN

NATIONWIDE WITH DOMA'S

DEFEAT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE

WAY THAT THE JUSTICES

DENIGRATED IT.

NOW THAT THE MAJORITY

SAID MARRIAGE BY ONE MAN AND

WOMAN ARE DRIVEN BY EITHER

IGNORANCE OR HOSTILITY.

I FEAR WE'RE GOING TO SEE A

FLOOD OF LAWSUITS WHERE THAT

WILL BE THE LEAD FOR

PLAINTIFFS RIGHT OUT OF THE

GATE.

THE SCRIPT HAS ALREADY

BEEN WRITTEN: CHRISTIANS ARE

ANGRY, MEAN, BIGOTTED,

NARROW-MINDED, UGLY PEOPLE.

THAT'S THE STEREOTYPE.

I THINK WE HAVE TO DO WHAT

WE CAN TO DEFEAT THAT

STEREOTYPE.

Reporter: ALL SIDES ON

THIS ISSUE SAYS WHAT THE

COURT HAS DONE HERE IS

IMPORTANT, BUT IT CERTAINLY

DOES NOT DECIDE THE QUESTION

OF GAY MARRIAGE FOR ALL OF

AMERICA.

PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS,

REPORTING FROM THE SUPREME

COURT.

Pat: JAY SECULO, FOR

THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW

AND JUSTICE IS WITH US NOW.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ANTHONY

KENNEDY.

DOES HE HAVE SOME CLERKS

THAT HAPPEN TO BE GAYS?

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I THINK WHAT JUSTICE KENNEDY

DID, IF YOU LOOK AT A SERIES

OF CASES THAT HE'S BEEN

INVOLVED IN, HE HAS TAKEN

THE VIEW THAT SEXUAL

ORIENTATION IS A SPECIAL

CLASS.

SO THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH

HIS OPINIONS.

OF COURSE JUSTICE SCALIA

SHARPLY DISAGREED.

PAT, THERE IS ONE THING THAT

HAS TO BE ESTABLISHED HERE:

THE COURT DID NOT STRIKE

DOWN DOMA.

THEY STRUCK DONE ONE

PROVISION OF DOMA, WHICH WAS

THE FEDERAL BENEFIT

PROVISION, WHICH SAYS IF

THERE IS A SAME-SEX COUPLE

THAT GETS MARRIED IN A STATE

THAT ALLOWS IT, IS THAT THEY

GET STATE BENEFITS.

SO IN A SENSE, IT WAS

NARROW, BUT YOU HAVE TWO

DIFFERENT WORLD VIEWS

CLASHING IN THAT OPINION

BETWEEN WHAT JUSTICE SCALIA

WROTE, WHICH IS THE CONCERN

ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF

POWER AND THE ROLE OF THE

COURTS, AND JUSTICE KENNEDY,

WHICH IS MORE FOCUSED ON

WHAT HE WOULD CALL THE

STATUS OF THE INDIVIDUALS

THAT WERE INVOLVED HERE.

SO THAT WAS THE IMPACT OF

WHAT IS GOING ON WITH

JUSTICE KENNEDY'S OPINION.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE

BACKGROUND OF HIS CLERKS.

I'VE HAD A LOT OF CASES IN

FRONT OF JUSTICE KENNEDY,

AND MOST OF THE TIME HE

RULES IN OUR FAVOR, A VAST

MAJORITY OF THE TIME.

THIS TIME HE TOOK THE

POSITION THAT THIS WAS

BASICALLY A SPECIAL STATUS.

WHAT IS INTERESTING, PAT,

WHEN YOU TURN IT OVER TO

PROPOSITION 8, THERE THE

COURT PUNTED AND SAID THERE

WAS NO STANDING.

SOME ADVOCATES ARE SAYING

THAT THE COURT HAS

ESTABLISHED THE LEGAL

STANDARD, ALLOWING SAME-SEX

MARRIAGE ACROSS THE

COUNTRY.

I'M NOT SURE IT IS ALLOWING

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IN ALL OF

CALIFORNIA.

IT SENT IT BACK TO THE

DISTRICT COURT OPINIONS.

IT MAY BE THAT THE OTHER

DISTRICT COURTS IN

CALIFORNIA WOULD TAKE THE

SAME POSITION.

THIS IS NOT EVEN A COURT OF

APPEALS POSITION ANYMORE.

THE COURT SAVED FOR ANOTHER

DAY THE IDEA THERE WOULD BE

A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.

Pat: GOING INTO

CALIFORNIA, I UNDERSTAND THE

DISTRICT COURT JUDGE THERE

EITHER WAS AN ADVOCATE OR

HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY, OR WAS

A HOMOSEXUAL OR HAD A

WIFE -- SOME CONNECTION.

CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT,

OR DO YOU KNOW?

THERE WAS A CONTROVERSY

BECAUSE THE JUDGE'S SEXUAL

ORIENTATION UNFORTUNATELY

BECAME PART OF THE CASE.

AND THERE WERE SOME OTHER

RULINGS THERE THAT BECAME

QUESTIONABLE.

AND JUSTICE SCALIA IN A

FOOTNOTE TALKS ABOUT HOW THE

TRIAL COURT CREATED A CIRCUS

ENVIRONMENT DURING THE TRIAL

HERE.

BUT MAJORITY OF THE COURT

IN THE PROPOSITION 8 CASE,

WHICH INCLUDED THE CHIEF

JUSTICE OF THE UNITED

STATES, CHIEF JUSTICE

ROBERTS, AND JUSTICE SCALIA,

AS WELL AS LIBERAL MEMBERS

OF THE COURT SAID THERE WAS

NO STANDING TO BRING THE

CHALLENGE.

THE COURT IS CAUTIOUS ON

STANDING ISSUES, WHICH

GENERALLY IS HELPFUL TO OUR

SIDE.

HERE THEY FOUND THERE WAS NO

STANDING.

AND THERE WERE CONSERVATIVES

AND LIBERALS ON THAT SIDE,

TOO, WHO SAID THERE SHOULD

HAVE BEEN A HEARING ON THE

MERITS.

BUT THERE WAS NO DECISION ON

THE MERITS REGARDING A

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT

REGARDING THE DEFINITION OF

MARRIAGE.

COULD THAT COME AT A LATER

TIME?

IT DEPENDS ON WHO IS

STANDING AT THAT TIME.

Pat: SO THEY DID NOT

WANT TO DEFEND PROPOSITION

8, SO THEY PUNTED.

IS THAT THE IDEA?

THERE WAS AN ORGANIZATION

OF INDIVIDUALS?

AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE

STANDING.

AND IT WAS A CLOSED CASE, IF

AN INDIVIDUAL CAN DEFEND A

PROPROPOSITION.

AND THERE WAS ANOTHER LEGAL

ISSUE, WHICH JUSTICE SCALIA

TOUCHED ON, THAT THE JUSTICE

DEPARTMENT DIDN'T DEFEND IT,

SO THAT WAS AN ISSUE.

IN THE BIG CASE, WHICH WAS

PROPOSITION 8, THE COURT

TOOK THE TECHNICALITY, NOT

BECAUSE IT IS

INSIGNIFICANT -- STANDING IS

A BIG ISSUE, AND THE CHIEF

JUSTICE WROTE THAT AT LEAST

FIVE JUSTICES CONCURRED WITH

HIM, THAT THERE WAS NO

STANDING.

SO THE NINTH CIRCUIT

DECISION WAS NO LONGER VALID

AND IT GOES BACK TO THE

DISTRICT COURT.

Pat: LET ME ASK YOU

ABOUT THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE

COURT.

WE'VE GOT THE CONGRESS OF

THE UNITED STATES

OVERWHELMING PASSING THE

DEFENSE OF MARRIAGE ACT,

SIGNED INTO LAW, I MIGHT

ADD, BY PRESIDENT CLINTON.

YOU'VE GOT CALIFORNIA, PROP

8, WHICH IS OVERWHELMING

PASSED BY THE ENTIRE

POPULATION.

THE CITIZENS OF THE STATE.

AND BOTH OF THOSE ACTIONS BY

AN OVERWHELMING GROUP OF

CITIZENS WERE OVERTURNED IN

THE CASE OF THE SUPREME

COURT 5-4, AND IN THE CASE

OF CALIFORNIA, ONE SITTING

DISTRICT JUDGE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND THIS IS PART OF THE

DESCENT FROM JUSTICE SCALIA,

WHO FOCUSED ON THAT, THE

IDEA THAT THE COURT WOULD

HAVE THIS MUCH POWER AND

THIS MUCH SWAY.

THE IRONY OF CALIFORNIA IS

THEY PASSED PROPOSITION 8,

AND THEY ELECTED JERRY BROWN

TO BE THE GOVERNOR, WHO

INSTRUCTED THE

ATTORNEY-GENERAL NOT TO

DEFEND THE PROP

PROPOSITION.

SO IT IS A BIZARRE TWIST OF

ELECTORIAL FATE.

YOU POINT OUT AN IMPORTANT

PART -- LOOK, I'M NOT GOING

TO DISPARAGE ANY OF THE

JUSTICES OR THEIR CLERKS.

WE HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS

THE REACH OF THE COURTS AND

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE

COURTS IN THE BRANCH OF

GOVERNMENT.

THAT'S WHAT JUSTICE SCALIA

WAS GETTING TO IN THE PROP 8

CASE.

THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION

HERE.

WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE

COURT?

THEY DIDN'T DO A ROE VS.

WADE.

THEY DIDN'T

CONSTITUTIONALIZE A WRITE.

THEY'RE LETTING THE STATES

BE THE INCUBATORS OF THIS.

AND 38 STATES PROHIBITED

IT.

Pat: THE CASE ON DOMA,

HE SAID IT WAS MOTIVATED BY

ANAMOUS.

ISN'T THAT GOING TO

STIGMATIZE -- GO AHEAD.

THAT'S THE THING PEOPLE

ARE WORRIED ABOUT.

WE RECEIVED A LOT OF CALLS

FROM PASTORS WHO SAY DO I

HAVE TO ENGAGE IN OUR CHURCH

IN PERFORMING SAME-SEX

MARRIAGES, WHICH YOU DON'T.

THE FIRST AMENDMENT FREE

EXERCISE CLAUSE WAS NOT

TOUCHED BY THIS.

BUT THERE WAS THAT CONCERN.

WE SHOULD NOT OVERREACT TO

THIS DECISION.

I THINK THE REACTION NEEDS

TO BE MEASURED.

AND MEASURED MEANS, LOOK,

OTHER THAN THE FEDERAL

BENEFITS -- AND I'M NOT

SAYING THAT IS

INSIGNIFICANT, IT IS THE

STATUS QUO AS IT WAS

BEFORE.

38 STATES DO NOT ALLOW

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, AND 12

DO, AND THE DISTRICT OF

COLUMBIA.

AND SOME OF THE STATES HAVE

CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENTS

THAT PROHIBIT IT.

THIS WAS NOT A

CONSTITUTIONALIZED RIGHT

HERE AT THE END OF THE DAY.

SO I THINK WE'VE GOT TO

REALIZE WHAT WE'RE DEALING

WITH.

AND THE FIGHT CONTINUES ON

BOTH SIDES OF THIS.

NEITHER SIDE IS GOING AWAY.

THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU.

Pat: ONE LAST QUESTION:

THE ACLJ IS REPRESENTING A

NUMBER OF TEA PARTY AND

OTHER GROUPS WHO HAVE BEEN

SLOWED OR DENIED TAX EXEMPT

STATUS BY THE I.R.S.

HOW IS THAT CASE GOING?

PAT, TWO BIG

DEVELOPMENTS, ONE ABOUT 15

MINUTES AGO.

WE FILED AN AMENDED

COMPLAINT ADDING 41

PLAINTIFFS, INCLUDING GROUPS

THAT WERE NOT TEA PARTY

GROUPS, JUST CONSERVATIVE

ORGANIZATIONS, PRO-LIFE

ORGANIZATIONS, AND SOME

EDUCATIONAL GROUPS THAT GOT

CAUGHT UP IN THIS DRAGNET

WITH THE I.R.S.

THE I.R.S. HAS PUT FORWARD A

PLAN, WHAT THEY CALL A RAPID

RESPONSE PLAN, AN EXPEDITED

REVIEW, LIKE YOU GO THROUGH

THE 10 ITEM OR LESS LINE AT

THE GROCERY STORE.

YOU CAN GET THROUGH QUICKLY

IF YOU AGREE TO CERTAIN

THINGS.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM.

AND THIS MORNING, JUST 10

MINUTES AGO, THE TAXPAYER

ADVOCATE, WHICH IS PART OF

THE I.R.S., IS OFFERING

$1,000 PER PERSON, PER

ORGANIZATION, THAT WAS

DENIED OR DELAYED IN THEIR

STATUS, AS THE OPENING SALVO

IN TRYING TO SETTLE THIS.

I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE

AN AGGRESSIVE ATTEMPT BY THE

GOVERNMENT TO TRY TO SETTLE

IT.

I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO

SETTLE RIGHT AWAY.

PAT, THERE WILL BE A HEARING

TODAY WITH THE ACTING

COMMISSIONER, AND A VOTE TO

CALL LOIS LEARNER WHO TOOK

THE VOTE BACK TO THE HOUSE.

IT IS GOING WELL.

THERE WERE SOME PROGRESSIVE

GROUPS THAT WERE TARGETED.

AND THEY SAID WE WEREN'T

ASKED I INTRUSIVE

QUESTIONS.

IT JUST TOOK A LITTLE LONGER

THAN WE THOUGHT.

AND NOW THEY'RE OFFERING

$1,000 PER ORGANIZATION TO

SETTLE THE CASE.

THAT'S HOW THEY THINK.

Pat: THEY MAY HAVE

SPENT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS

AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN

LOST REVENUE, ETC.

SOME OF THESE

ORGANIZATIONS HAD -- THERE

WERE PRIVILEGES THAT WERE

$22,000 OR $32,000 A MONTH.

I CAN TELL THEM ABOUT THE

$1,000 OFFER HERE ON "THE

700 CLUB," NOT ACCEPTED.

Pat: YOU HEARD IT

HERE.

JAY, KEEP IT UP.

GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU.

Pat: IT LOOKS LIKE THE

TEXAS LEGISLATURE WILL GET

ANOTHER CHANCE TO PASS AN

IMPORTANT ABORTION BILL.

LEE WEBB HAS MORE.

Lee: GOVERNOR RICK

PERRY HAS CALLED ANOTHER

SPECIAL LEGISLATIVE SESSION

TO TRY AND PASS ABORTION

RESTRICTIONS IN THAT STATE.

DEMOCRATIC SENATOR WENDY

DAVIS, ALONG WITH A LOUD AND

ANGRY CROWD, BLOCKED

REPUBLICAN EFFORTS TO PASS A

BILL TUESDAY NIGHT.

POLITICAL OBSERVERS BELIEVE

REPUBLICANS WILL BE

SUCCESSFUL WHEN THE NEXT

SPECIAL SESSION BEGINS ON

MONDAY.

THEIR BILL WOULD BAN

ABORTIONS AFTER 20 WEEKS OF

PREGNANCY, AND ESTABLISH

TIGHTER CONTROLS ON CLINICS,

AS WELL AS DOCTORS.

IT COULD CLOSE NEARLY ALL

ABORTION CLINICS IN THE

LONE-STAR STATE.

PRESIDENT OBAMA IS IN

SENEGAL TODAY.

IT IS HIS FIRST STOP ON HIS

WEEK-LONG TOUR OF AFRICA.

THE TRIP AIMED AT OVERCOMING

DISAPPOINTMENT IN AFRICA

THAT AMERICA'S FIRST BLACK

PRESIDENT DID NOT GIVE MORE

ATTENTION TO THAT CONTINENT

DURING HIS FIRST TERM.

THE PRESIDENT WILL ALSO BE

VISITING SOUTH AFRICA AND

TANZANIA.

THE TRIP IS EXPECTED TO COST

UP TO $100 MILLION.

SOME CONGRESSIONAL

REPUBLICANS HAVE QUESTIONED

THAT EXPENSE AT A TIME OF

THE SEQUESTER.

MAJOR CHANGES ARE COMING TO

A SCHOOL VENDING MACHINE

NEAR YOU.

HIGH-CALORIE SPORTS DRINKS

AND CANDY BARS WILL BE

REMOVED FROM SCHOOLS ACROSS

THE COUNTRY AS EARLY AS NEXT

YEAR.

THEY WILL BE REPLACED WHY

DIET DRINKS, GRANOLA BARS,

AND OTHER HEALTHIER ITEMS.

THE CHANGE IS PART OF THE

CHILD NUTRITION LAW PASSED

BY CONGRESS IN 2010, IN AN

EFFORT TO BATTLE CHILDHOOD

OBESITY.

SCHOOL LUNCH MEN US MENUS

WILL ALSO CHANGE.

THE FOOD INDUSTRY IS ON

BOARD AND HAS BEEN WORKING

WITH CONGRESS TO IMPLEMENT

THESE CHANGES, PAT.

Pat: THANK YOU.

WENDY, DOES THAT MAKE YOU

HAPPY, THAT IN LUNCH

ROOMS -- YOU WOULDN'T EAT

THAT JUNK ROOM, WOULD YOU?

Wendy: I LOVED PIZZA

DAY, AND THAT WAS GREASY.

BUT KIDS ARE SO OVERWEIGHT,

SO I GUESS ANYTHING THAT CAN

BE DONE TO GET THE JUNK FOOD

OUT OF THE MACHINES, YOU

KNOW.

Pat: I'LL TELL YOU,

WHEN I WAS IN BUSINESS OR

LAW SCHOOL OR SOME PLACE, I

LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT.

I WORKED HARD AND I WAS DOWN

TO REALLY TRIM WEIGHT.

I WAS WORKING OUT AND I WAS

DOWN.

SO LATER ON I GOT A JOB AS

AN ASSISTANT PASTOR IN A

CHURCH.

AND THEY DIDN'T HAVE PIZZA

NIGHT, BUT THEY HAD --

Wendy: POT LUCK.

Pat: IT WAS NOT POT

LUCK, BUT IT WAS WEDNESDAY

NIGHT THEY FEED YOU.

AND WHAT DID THEY HAVE?

THEY HAD SLIMEY, OVERCOOKED

ROAST BEEF, LOTS OF GRAVY,

AND OVERCOOKED POTATOES,

MASHED POTATOES, AND WHITE

BREAD ROLLS AND APPLE PIE.

Wendy: IN THE SOUTH

THEY COOK THE LIFE OUT OF

THE VEGETABLES, YOU KNOW.

AND THEY'RE JUST KIND OF

SOGGY.

Pat: AND YOU'RE STARVED

BECAUSE NONE OF IT

SATISFIES, AND YOU WANT MORE

TO EAT.

BEFORE LONG, MY WIFE'S

WEIGHT WENT UP AND UP AND

UP.

AND THE KIDS, IF THEY'RE

HUNGRY, THEY GO GET A

TWINKIETWIN SNACK TWINKIES

OR A SUGARY COKE --

Wendy: THEY'RE PUTTING

DIET DRINKS IN THERE, WHICH

I DON'T THINK ARE ANY

BETTER --

Pat: THEY'RE WORSE.

WE'VE SETTLED THAT.

WENDY IS GOING TO BE THE

FOOD COMMISSIONER.

Wendy: I HOPE NOT.

UP NEXT, INTO TACTICS TO

SEIZE LAND IN ISRAEL.

THE ARABS HAVE REALIZED,

THEY CAN'T BEAT US WITH

TANKS, EVEN WITH SUICIDE

BOMBERS.

SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS

TAKING THE LAND, PIECE BY

PIECE.

THERE ARE NO TANKS IN THIS

WAR.

IT IS TRACTORS AND

BULLDOZERS.

Wendy: SEE HOW THE

ISRAELIS ARE FIGHTING BACK,

AFTER THIS.

Pat: HAVE YOU HEARD THE

CRY, LAND FOR PEACE?

THE ISRAELIS THAT HAVE A

TINY, TINY SLIVER OF THE

MIDDLE EAST HAVE GOT TO GIVE

UP MORE LAND.

THEY HAVE TO GIVE UP THE

WEST BANK, HAD HALF OF EAST

JERUSALEM, THEY HAVE TO GIVE

UP THE SINAI, AND THE MORE

THEY GIVE UP, THAT'S

SUPPOSED TO GIVE PEACE.

WELL, IS THAT AN ILLUSION?

SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN

KERRY IS TRYING TO START UP

THE SO-CALLED MIDDLE EAST

PEACE PROCESS AGAINST, AND

THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM:

PALESTINIANS STILL REFUSE TO

RECOGNIZE ISRAELI'S RIGHT TO

EXIST, AND THEY ALSO WANT

ALL OF THE LAND.

AS ERICK STAKELBECK TELLS

US, THE PALESTINIANS AND

THEIR SUPPORTERS ARE USING

CREATIVE NEW METHODS TO TAKE

THAT LAND AWAY.

Reporter: FOR MANY

AMERICANS, A STROLL THROUGH

THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IS A

GREAT WAY TO FIND PEACE AND

RELAXATION.

RESIDENTS OF THE ISRAELI

TOWN OF GUTZETION FEEL THE

SAME WAY.

BUT WHEN THEY BEGAN TO PLANT

TREES, THEY GOT A RUDE

AWAKENING FROM THEIR

NEIGHBORS.

THE WATER PIPES WERE CUT

BY THE ARABS.

AND THIS IS WHAT IS LEFT OF

THEM, COMPLETELY DRY AND

DEAD.

ROR

Reporter: NADIA'S GROUP

IS DEDICATED TO PRESERVING

ISRAEL LAND.

THIS HAS BECOME A

FLASH-POINT IN THAT

STRUGGLE.

THE ARABS HAVE A BIG

DIFFICULTY TO SEE THE JEWS

PLANTING ON THEIR BIBLICAL,

GOD-GIVEN HOMELAND, EVEN IN

AREAS WHERE THERE IS NO

DISPUTE AT ALL, LIKE HERE.

Reporter: FOR YEARS,

THE JEWISH RESIDENTS HERE

HAVE BEEN COMING HERE TO

NETZER AND THEY HAVE BEEN

PLANTING TREES.

THEY'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS

LAND BEAUTIFUL.

SOME OF THE LOCAL ARABS HAVE

BEEN COMING HERE, OFTENTIMES

BY COVER OF NIGHT, NOT ONLY

CHOPPING DOWN THE TREES, BUT

EVEN CUTTING THE IRRIGATION

LINES.

IT LIES SOUTH, IN AN AREA

KNOWN BIBLICALLY AS JUDEA,

BUT THE ARABS CALL IT THE

WEST BANK.

HE TOLD CBN NEWS THAT

ISRAELIS ARE SIMPLY

DEVELOPING THE SAME

SOVEREIGN LAND WHERE JEWS

WALKED THOUSANDS OF YEARS

AGO.

WE WANT TO KEEP THE

PIECES OF LAND TO EXTEND THE

COMMUNITIES, TO HAVE

AGRICULTURE, LIKE TREES AND

STUFF.

BUT THE ARABS WANT IT, TOO.

SO THEY ARE TRYING TO FIGHT

THROUGH THE LAND, AND

THEY'RE TRYING TO TAKE OUT

THE TREES.

Reporter: PERRY SAYS

THE RESIDENTS OFTEN FACE

VIOLENCE FROM LOCAL

PALESTINIANS.

IF THEY LIVE UNDER THE

PALESTINIAN GOVERNMENT,

LET'S SAY, AND THEY ARE

FEELING THEY HAVE TO FIGHT

OUT TO THE ROADS.

THEY'RE THROWING STONES,

FIREBOMBS.

Reporter: MATAR CALLS

DESTRUCTION OF

JEWISH-PLANTED TREES HERE

AGRICULTURAL JIHAD, FUNDED

IN PART, SHE SAYS, BY

ANTI-ISRAEL GROUPS AND THE

EUROPEAN UNION.

ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY

FUNDED SO WELL, THEY GO UP

WITH FANCY TRACTORS ALL OVER

AND STEAL OUR LAND.

Reporter: FURTHER

SOUTH, IN ISRAEL'S NEGATIVE

REGION, ANOTHER

CONTROVERSIAL ATTEMPT TO

SEIZE LAND IS UNDER WAY.

ONE ACTIVIST CALLS IT A

SILENT CONQUEST BY --

THE ARABS HAVE REALIZED

THEY CAN'T BEAT US WITH WAR,

WITH TANKS, MISSILES, EVEN

SUICIDE BOMBERS.

SO WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS

TAKING THE LAND PIECE BY

PIECE.

THERE ARE NO TANKS IN THIS

WAR.

IT IS TRACTORS AND

BULLDOZERS.

Reporter: ARI IS A

SPOKESMAN FOR AN

ORGANIZATION THAT WANTS TO

PRESERVE AND PROTECT

ISRAEL'S NATIONAL LANDS.

HE SAYS THE HISTORICALLY

NOMADIC ARABS ARE TAKING UP

RESIDENTS ILLEGALLY IN THE

REGION.

A LARGE REGION THAT MAKES UP

TWO-THIRDS OF THE ISRAEL

LAND.

ALTHOUGH THE U.N. TREATS

THEM AS NATIVES AND SUPPORTS

THEIR CLAIMS.

THERE ARE BEDAMEN ALL

OVER THE MIDDLE EAST.

Reporter: NOW BRIGGS

SAYS SOME 90,000 BEDAWIN

HAVE SET UP SHOP IN THE

AREA.

IMAGINE SUCH A SCENARIO

DEVELOPING IN THE DESERTS

OUTSIDE LOS ANGELES OR

PHOENIX, AND YOU GET THE

IDEA.

CRIME, POOR EDUCATION, AND

THE LACK OF WOMEN'S RIGHTS

ARE COMMON IN BEDAWIN'S

COMMUNITIES.

AND THE RAPID GROWTH IS

ANOTHER CHALLENGE FOR

ISRAEL.

THEY HAVE ON AVERAGE,

THREE TO FOUR WIVES.

ON AVERAGE, 20 TO 30 KIDS.

THE HIGHEST GROWTH RATE IN

THE WORLD, 5.6%.

IT MEANS THEY DOUBLE THEIR

POPULATION EVERY 15 YEARS.

Reporter: LIKE IN

NETZER, BRIGGS SAYS THE LAND

IS FUNDED BY ISRAEL'S

ENEMIES ABROAD.

THEY UNDERSTAND THE

IMPORTANCE OF TAKING OVER

THE LAND OF ISRAEL.

THEY COULDN'T DO IT WITH

TANKS OR MISSILES, BUT NOW

THEY'RE DOING IT WITH GOOD

MONEY COMING IN FROM QATAR

AND SAUDI ARABIA.

Reporter: HE WANTS THE

ISRAELI GOVERNMENT DO DO

MORE TO PROTECT THE NEGTIV.

MEANWHILE IN NETZER, LOCALS

PROMISE TO CONTINUE PLANTING

TREES, DESPITE THE

HOSTILITY.

HOPEFULLY THEY WILL STAY

AND GROW, AND THEY WILL BE

BENEFICIAL FOR ALL WHO LIVE

HERE.

Reporter: ERICK

STAKELBECK, CBN NEWS,

REPORTING FROM ISRAEL.

Pat: THANKS, ERICK.

I WAS JUST READING A BOOK

ABOUT THIS.

THERE NEVER HAS BEEN A

COUNTRY CALLED PALATINE.

IT REALLY WAS ISRAEL, BUT

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO IDENTIFY

THAT.

THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A

PALESTINIAN LAND.

THE AUTHOR OF THIS BOOK SAID

IF YOU'RE PALESTINIANS, WHO

WAS YOUR FIRST KING AND WHAT

LANGUAGE DID HE SPEAK?

THE ANSWER WAS, THERE WAS NO

PALESTINE, AND THERE WAS NO

KING.

AND THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A

PALESTINIAN LANGUAGE.

THE LAND, SINCE THE DAYS

OF -- WELL, CONQUEST, ABOUT

1300 A.D., I GUESS IT WAS,

OR 1300 B.C., I GUESS, ABOUT

THE TIME OF MOSES, THAT'S

WHEN THE ISRAELIS CAME IN

AND CONQUERED THE LAND, AND

IT HAS BEEN THEIRS EVER

SINCE.

BUT NOW THE UNITED NATIONS

WANTS TO TAKE IT AWAY.

THOSE OF US WHO LOVE ISRAEL

HAVE TO FIGHT IN THIS CAUSE

BECAUSE WHEN THEY HAVE A

TINY, TINY SLIVER OF THE

LAND, AND THE ARABS HAVE IT

ALL.

THEY HAVE HUGE TERRITORIES

OF LAND.

THEY COULD SETTLE THOSE

BEDAWINS AND THOSE DISPLACED

PEOPLE.

WENDY, THE U.N. IS STILL AN

OPERATION WITH DISPLACED

PERSONS.

THEY REFUSE TO SETTLE THEM.

THE SO-CALLED PALESTINIANS

THAT GOT MOVED OUT IN THAT

48 WAR -- THEY STILL HAVEN'T

SETTLED THEM.

THEY'RE STILL THERE.

Wendy: THE BIBLE IS

VERY CLEAR, THAT LAND

BELONGS TO ISRAEL.

ISN'T IT INTERESTING HOW

THEY'RE TAKING IT LITTLE BY

LITTLE, VERY SUBTLE.

Pat: I TALKED TO YASSER

ARAFAT, AND HE BASICALLY

SAID, LITTLE BY LITTLE WE'RE

GOING TO GET JERUSALEM.

AND EVERYBODY WAS, NO, NO,

THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET

JERUSALEM.

THEY ARE GOING TO GET

JERUSALEM UNLESS SOMEBODY

STANDS UP AND STOPS THEM.

I THINK THAT WILL BE THE

LAST POINT OF CONTROVERSY.

I THINK JERUSALEM WILL BE

THE PLACE WHERE THE LINE IS

DRAWN AND WHERE THE WAR

TAKES PLACE.

Wendy: I WANTED TO ASK

YOU, TOO, ABOUT WHAT

HAPPENED YESTERDAY.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID IT WAS

A SAD DAY FOR AMERICA WITH

THE SUPREME COURT

OVERTURNING DOMA.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAID,

LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ROME.

ARE WE HEADED IN THAT

DIRECTION?

Pat: WHAT IS IT,

55 MILLION ABORTED BABIES

SINCE ROE VS. WADE.

THE BIBLE TAKEN OUT OF THE

SCHOOL.

PRAYER TAKEN OUT OF THE

SCHOOL.

SECULARISM ON THE RISE.

AND NOW HOMOSEXUALITY, WHICH

WAS CALLED AN AB BOM MATION

ABOMINATION IN THE BIBLE,

AND A JUSTICE OF THE SUPREME

COURT SAYING ANYBODY WHO IS

AGAINST THIS LIFESTYLE IS

SOMEHOW BIGOTTED OR BIAS, OR

WHATEVER TERM HE USED.

THE DEFENDERS OF TRADITIONAL

LIFESTYLE AND BIBLICAL

VALUES ARE GOING TO BE

MARGINALIZED VERY QUICKLY --

THEY ARE ALREADY.

Wendy: THE DEBATE

CONTINUES.

Pat: IT'S GOING TO BE,

UNFORTUNATELY -- ON THIS

ONE, IT HAS BEEN CAST AS A

CIVIL RIGHTS STRUGGLE.

IT IS NO LONGER A MORAL

ISSUE.

ONCE YOU SAY CIVIL RIGHTS,

YOU LOOK BACK TO MARTIN

LUTHER KING AND OTHERS AND

SAY WE HAVE TO STAND FOR THE

OPPRESSED.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, YOUR

LIBERTIES ARE IN DANGER.

READ THE BIBLE ABOUT SODOM

AND G AND GOMORA.

Wendy: UP NEXT, MEET

THE WOMAN WHO'S HUSBAND MADE

HEADLINES WHEN HE WAS

SENTENCED TO EIGHT YEARS IN

IRAN'S NOTORIOUS EVAN

PRISON.

NAGHMEH ABEDINI JOINS US ON

THE LOCAL FIGHT TO SET HIM

FREE.

Wendy: LAST YEAR,

NAGHMEH ABEDINI SAID

GOOD-BYE TO HER HUSBAND,

SAEED, AS HE SET OFF ON A

TRIP.

SHE NEVER MATCHED THAT 12

MONTHS LATER SHE WOULD BE IN

THE MIDDLE OF A FIGHT FOR

HIS FREEDOM AND HIS LIFE.

NAGHMEH ABEDINI IS LIVING A

NIGHTMARE.

LAST JULY HER HUSBAND,

AMERICAN PASTOR SAEED

ABEDINI, WAS IN IRAN TO HELP

ESTABLISH AN ORPHANAGE WHEN

HE WAS ARRESTED BY IRANIAN

AUTHORITIES.

THEN IN JANUARY, HE WAS

SENTENCED TO EIGHT YEARS IN

IRAN'S INFAMOUS EVAN

PRISON.

HIS CRIME?

PREACHING THE GOSPEL.

SAEED HAS ENDURED PHYSICAL

AND PSYCHOLOGICAL ABUSE AND

HAS BEEN DENIED MEDICAL

TREATMENT.

NAGHMEH SAYS AT TIMES THE

STRAIN OVER THE PAST 12

MONTHS HAS SEEMED UNBEARABLE

FOR HER AND HER TWO YOUNG

CHILDREN.

I WAS ON THE EDGE OF

EXTREME DEPRESSION AND

ANXIETY AND WORRY.

AND I COULD SEE WHERE I WAS

ALMOST BEING BROKEN.

I WOULD HAVE HAD TO CHECK

MYSELF IN.

BUT THE LORD DIDN'T LET ME

BREAK.

Wendy: THE AMERICAN

CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE

HAS BEEN FIGHTING FOR

SAEED'S FREEDOM.

NAGHMEH BELIEVES THROUGH

PRAYER, IT WILL BE GOD, NOT

THE GOVERNMENT, WHO WILL

FREE HER HUSBAND.

AND PLEASE WELCOME TO "THE

700 CLUB," NAGHMEH ABEDINI.

IT'S GREAT TO HAVE YOU

HERE.

GOOD MORNING.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Wendy: ABSOLUTELY.

FIRST OF ALL, TELL US THE

LATEST ON YOUR HUSBAND?

HAS ANYBODY SEEN HIM, AND

HOW IS HE HOLDING UP?

HIS FAMILY GETS TO SEE

HIM EVERY WEEK.

AND THEY SAW HIM THIS WEEK

AND HE IS DOING OKAY.

HE HAS HAD SOME BEATINGS, SO

HE STILL HAS ISSUES WITH HIS

INTERNAL BLEEDING.

HE IS MUCH BETTER, BUT THERE

IS STILL PAIN.

WE'RE STILL HOPING TO GET

HIM TREATED FOR HIS PHYSICAL

PAIN.

Wendy: IS HE IN

SOLITARY CONFINEMENT?

NO.

HE WAS IN SOLITARY IN EARLY

MAY.

AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO

KEEP HIM THERE FOR 20 DAYS,

BUT THEY ENDED UP KEEPING

HIM FOR 10 DAYS, AND IT WAS

A WAY TO HAVE HIM REPENT AND

DENY CHRIST.

HE CAME OUT OF SOLITARY,

EVEN THOUGH HE WENT IN WITH

A LOT OF PAIN AND BLEEDING,

BUT HE CAME OUT MUCH

BETTER.

HE HAD AN ENCOUNTER WITH

GOD.

HE HAS HAD A FEW BEATINGS

AND NEEDS MEDICAL ATTENTION

STILL.

Wendy: IRAN HAS A NEW

PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT

ROHANI.

WILL THIS FAIR BETTER FOR

HIM?

THE SAME DAY HE WAS

SENTENCED, ABOVE ROHANI IS

THE SUPREME LEADER, HOMA

HOMAANA, AND HIS POLICY

TOWARDS CHRISTIANITY HAS

ALWAYS BEEN THE SAME, THAT

THEY SEE IT AS A THREAT TO

THEIR NATIONAL SECURITY.

I DON'T SEE MUCH OF A

CHANGE.

I HOPE THEY TRY TO BRING

MORE FREEDOM FOR THE

CHRISTIANS, AND REALLY

SAEED, BUT --

Wendy: BUT RIGHT NOW

YOU DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE

MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE?

I DON'T THINK IT WILL

MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.

Wendy: NAGHMEH, YOU

WERE BORN IN IRAN TO MUSLIM

PARENTS, AND HOW DID YOU

BECOME A CHRISTIAN?

GOD'S GRACE.

I WAS ALWAYS SPEAKING TO

HIM.

I GREW UP IN IRAN, AND THERE

WAS BOMBS AND WAR, AND THAT

MADE ME THINK ABOUT WHO IS

GOD?

WHERE IS HE?

I TRIED TO FIND HIM THROUGH

ISLAM.

AND AT THE YOUNG AGE, 8 OR

9, AND WHEN I CAME TO THE

STATES, MY BROTHER HAD A

VISION OF CHRIST.

AND HE SAID, I'M THE WAY,

THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE.

Wendy: AND YOU WERE

YOUNG, RIGHT?

YEAH.

WE WERE 8 OR 9.

AND JESUS SAID -- AND HE

FELT SUCH A STRONG LOVE.

WHEN HE SAW THAT VISION, HE

CAME TO ME AND HE TOLD ME,

AND HE WAS A CHANGED

PERSON.

Wendy: YOU GOT SAVED

BASED ON YOUR BROTHER'S

DREAM ABOUT JESUS?

WE'RE TWINS, SO WE'RE SO

CLOSE.

I JUST SAW HE WAS SO

SHAKEN.

SO I ACCEPTED CHRIST AT THAT

AGE.

Wendy: TALK ABOUT CHILD

-LIKE FAITH.

IT HAS BEEN AN AMAZING

JOURNEY.

MY PARENTS WERE VERY ANGRY.

THEY SECLUDED US FROM

FRIENDS.

WE COULDN'T GO TO CHURCH.

WE COULDN'T HAVE THE BIBLE

FOR MOST OF -- FROM 9 UNTIL

I WAS 18.

THEY THOUGHT, THEY'RE GOING

TO FORGET ABOUT THIS.

THEY'VE JUST BEEN

BRAINWASHED BY THE WEST.

I NEVER FORGOT ABOUT HIM,

AND HE HAS ALWAYS BEEN

DIRECTING ME AND GUIDING

ME.

EVEN WITHOUT A BIBLE OR ANY

FELLOWSHIP, HE HAS ALWAYS

BEEN THERE.

Wendy: HOW DID YOU MEET

SAEED?

SOON AFTER

SEPTEMBER 11TH, SO NOVEMBER

OF 2001, AND IN THE SUMMER

OF 2001, THE LORD PUT ON MY

HEART TO GO BACK TO IRAN.

I PURCHASED THE TICKETS FOR

OCTOBER OF 2001, AND IN

SEPTEMBER 11TH, WHEN THE

ATTACKS HAPPENED IN NEW

YORK, EVERYONE SAID, MAYBE

YOU SHOULDN'T GO BACK.

IT IS DANGEROUS IN THE

MIDDLE EAST, BUT I FELT THE

LORD TELLING ME TO GO BACK

TO SHARE THE GOSPEL WITH THE

MUSLIMS.

TO LOVE ON THEM AND SHARE

ABOUT CHRIST.

Wendy: AND WHEN YOU

FIRST SAW HIM, YOU'D BE

PRAYING FOR A MAN WHO WASN'T

ORDINARY.

YES, I'D BEEN PRAYING.

I SAID, LORD, I DON'T CARE

ABOUT MONEY OR STATUS.

I WANT SOMEONE WHO IS

PASSIONATE ABOUT YOU.

I WOULD HAVE NEVER

THOUGHT -- I'M SO BLESSED TO

HAVE SAEED AS M MY

HUSBAND.

WHEN I MET HIM, HE WAS JUST

A WORSHIPPER AND SUCH A

PRAYER WARRIOR.

I LOVED HIS PASSION FOR

CHRIST.

Wendy: NAGHMEH, EXACTLY

WHAT WAS HE DOING WHEN HE

WAS ARRESTED LAST SUMMER?

HE WAS WORKING ON AN

ORPHANAGE.

HE WAS WORKING WITH THE

GOVERNMENT -- WE STARTED ON

THE ORPHANAGE SINCE 2009.

AND THE KIDS AND I HAD GONE

BACK WITH HIM IN 2011 AND

STAYED WITH HIM FOR A FEW

MONTHS.

Wendy: HE WAS THERE

UNDER GOVERNMENT APPROVAL?

THEY HAD APPROVED IT.

HE WAS WORKING WITH THEM.

Wendy: YOU HAVE TWO

YOUNG CHILDREN.

HOW ARE THEY COPING?

I KNOW THEY MUST BE MISSING

THEIR DAD TERRIBLY.

IT HAS BEEN HARD.

RECENTLY I SHARED A VIDEO ON

MY Facebook THAT SHOWS

JACOB CRYING, SAYING, JESUS,

I LOVE YOU.

BRING DADDY HOME.

HE IS IN TEARS.

THEY SENT OUT BALLOONS AND

MESSAGES TO JESUS SAYING,

BRING HIM HOME.

CHILD-LIKE FAITH, THEY

PRAYED AND THEY WAKE UP --

SOMETIMES THEY WAKE UP AND

THEY HAD A DREAM AND THEY

LOOK AROUND, AND THEY SAY,

IS DADDY HOME YET?

AND I SAID, NO, WE'VE GIST

JUST GOT TO WAIT.

I TRY TO SPEAK TO THEM ABOUT

THE BIBLE AND PATIENCE.

Wendy: YOU BELIEVE HE

WILL COME HOME?

I DO.

I HAVE HAD TO SAY, I BELIEVE

GOD IS GOING TO DELIVER.

BUT EVEN IF HE DOESN'T, HE

IS STILL A GOOD GUIDE.

I HAD TO LAY IT AT THE

ALTER.

I LEARNED NOT TO CONTROL

SITUATIONS OR PUSH GOD FOR A

CERTAIN OUTCOME.

JUST TO LET GO AND SAY GOD,

YOU'RE A GOOD GOD.

YOU'VE BEEN SO GRACIOUS TO

US DURING THE TIME.

WHATEVER THE OUTCOME, I DO

HOPE HE IS GOING TO COME

HOME, BUT WHATEVER THE

OUTCOME, GOD IS STILL GOD.

Wendy: YOU'VE BEEN SO

STRONG FOR YOUR KIDS, BUT

YOU'RE STRONG IN GENERAL.

YOU'VE BEEN ON TELEVISION,

YOU'VE BEEN TO THE U.N.,

WORKING HARD TO EDUCATE

PEOPLE AND LET THEM KNOW

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO YOUR

HUSBAND.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT?

WHERE DO YOU GET THE

STRENGTH?

FROM CHRIST.

I WAS A CRUMBLING MESS.

AND I FOUND CONNECTION TO

THE VINE, AND THE BIBLE SAYS

WHEN WE FIND THAT

CONNECTION, THE FRUIT

COMES.

I HAVE TO SAY ONE OF THE

HIGHLIGHTS -- IT HAS BEEN A

YEAR SINCE I PHYSICALLY HELD

MY HUSBAND AND SAID

GOOD-BYE.

ON JUNE 22nd IN 2012, I

SAID A QUICK GOOD-BYE, AND

SEE YOU IN A FEW WEEKS.

BUT SPEAKING BEFORE THE

U.N., I GOT TO SHARE ABOUT

CHRIST.

I SAID, SAEED IS IN PRISON

BECAUSE HE BELIEVES THAT

JESUS CHRIST DIED FOR

HUMANS.

I GOT TO SAY THAT BEFORE 26

COUNTRIES.

AS THEY WERE SPEAKING, THEY

HAD EAR PIECES AND THEY WERE

BEING TRANSLATED IN THEIR

LANGUAGE.

AND THEY GOT TO HEAR.

I KNOW THE LORD HAS GIVEN ME

STRENGTH TO FIGHT FOR MY

HUSBAND, BUT ALSO HE HAS

GIVEN ME A PLATFORM TO SHARE

HIS GOSPEL.

THE U.N. MIGHT HAVE NEVER

HAD THIS STRAIGHTFORWARD

MESSAGE ABOUT THE GOSPEL.

AND THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT

PEACE AND BRINGING WORLD

PEACE.

AND I GOT TO SHARE THAT THIS

IS THE ONLY WAY.

AT THE VERY END, I GOT TO

SHARE THE MESSAGE, AND THIS

IS THE GOD OF PEACE YOU'RE

ALL LOOKING FOR.

IT HAS BEEN AMAZING, THE

PLATFORM THAT GOD HAS GIVEN

ME TO FIGHT FOR MY HUSBAND,

BUT ALSO TO SHARE THE

GOSPEL.

OUR WORLD IS GETTING DARKER

AND DARKER.

Wendy: YOU'RE SUCH AN

INSPIRATION, THAT YOU CAN

FOCUS ON THAT.

WE ADMIRE YOU SO MUCH.

AND OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH

YOU.

I NI KNOW MILLIONS AROUND

THE WORLD ARE PRAYING FOR

YOUR HUSBAND'S RELEASE,

WHICH WE PRAY COMES VERY

SOON.

THANK YOU.

Wendy: TO FIND OUT MORE

ABOUT PASTOR SAEED AND HOW

YOU CAN HELP IN THE FIGHT

FOR HIS RELEASE, LOG ON TO

OUR WEBSITE, CBN.COM.

PAT?

Pat: WHAT A WONDERFUL

TESTIMONY AND A BRAVE

WOMAN.

GOD IS GOING TO GET THAT MAN

OUT OF PRISON.

YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP ON

PRAYING, AND WE'RE NOT GOING

TO FORGET HIM.

YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SAEED

COME HOME STRONGER AND MORE

POWERFUL THAN EVER.

COMING UP, HE WAS ALWAYS THE

SMALLEST GUY ON THE TEAM.

AND HE NEVER EXPECTED TO

PLAY MAJOR LEAGUE BALL.

BEN REVERE SHARES THE SECRET

TO HIS UNLIKELY SUCCESS.

AND THEN, TYLER SAYS, "I'M

15 AND I'M SO ADDICTED TO

SEX.

HELP ME."

WELCOME BACK TO

WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN NEWS

BREAK.

DEFENSE SECRETARY CHUCK

HAGEL SAYS THE PENTAGON IS

WORKING TO EXTEND BENEFITS

TO THE SPOUSES OF GAY

MILITARY MEMBERS AS SOON AS

POSSIBLE.

THAT INCLUDES HEALTH CARE,

HOUSING, AND OTHER FEDERAL

BENEFITS.

SPOUSES OF GAY MILITARY

MEMBERS COULD ALSO BE

ALLOWED TO BE BURIED IN

ARLINGTON NATIONAL

CEMETERY.

THE PLAN IS SCHEDULED TO GO

INTO EFFECT ON

OCTOBER 1st.

THE PENTAGON ESTIMATES THERE

ARE 18,000 SAME-SEX COUPLES

IN THE U.S. MILITARY.

THE ONLY ABORTION CLINIC IN

NORTH DAKOTA HAS FILED A

FEDERAL LAWSUIT.

IT IS CHALLENGING A STATE

LAW THAT BANS ABORTIONS AS

EARLY AS SIX WEEKS INTO A

PREGNANCY.

THAT'S WHEN AN UNBORN BABY'S

HEARTBEAT CAN FIRST BE

DETECTED.

THE LAWSUIT IS ALSO

CHALLENGING ANOTHER STATE

LAW THAT FORBIDS ABORTIONS

BECAUSE OF A GENETIC DEFECT,

SUCH AS DOWN SYNDROME.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND WENDY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Pat: WELCOME BACK.

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB."

GLAD YOU'RE WITH US.

YOU KNOW, A HIGH SCHOOL

STUDENT PROBABLY HAS AS MUCH

CHANCE OF BEING HIT BY AN

ASTEROID AS BEING CALLED OUT

OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL INTO THE

BIG LEAGUES.

1% -- I THINK THAT IS

PROBABLY STRETCHING IT --

HOW MANY BASEBALL PLAYERS

ARE DRAFTED RIGHT OUT OF

HIGH SCHOOL INTO THE BIG

LEAGUES.

AS SEAN BROWN REPORTS, BEN

REVERE WAS ONE OF THESE WHO

GOT TOUCHED BY STARDOM, TO

HIS SURPRISE.

I DIDN'T THINK I WOULD

EVER BE PLAYING MAJOR LEAGUE

BASEBALL, EVER.

Reporter: WHEN BEN

REVERE WAS SELECTED IN THE

FIRST ROUND OF THE 2007 N.L.

B. DRAFTS, HE THOUGHT HE

MUST HAVE BEEN DREAMING.

BECAUSE NOT ONLY WAS HE

DRAFTED RIGHT OUT OF HIGH

SCHOOL, HE WASN'T WHAT MOST,

INCLUDING HIMSELF, MAJOR

LEAGUE MATERIAL.

I THOUGHT, OH, MY

GOODNESS.

I WAS THE SMALLEST GUY ON

EVERY TIME, EVERY TEAM.

ALL THE GUYS OF 6' 3,"

HITTING HOMERUNS.

I HIT HOMERUNS, BUT IT WAS

NOTHING CRAZY.

Reporter: IT IS PRETTY

UNDERSTANDABLE FOR BEN TO

COME TO THAT CONCLUSION,

WHEN CONSIDERING THAT THE

NUMBER OF PLAYERS DRAFTED

RIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL IS

SAID TO BE LESS THAN 1%.

SO AS A SENIOR, HE WAS JUST

TRYING TO MAKE IT TO

COLLEGE.

IF I COULD GET TO

COLLEGE, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO

JUST GO THERE AND GET A GOOD

JOB OR SOMETHING.

I WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THAT.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE

UNIVERSITY OF GEORGIA,

FLORIDA, FLORIDA STATE,

MIAMI -- ALL OF THESE TEAMS,

THEY WANT YOU TO PLAY CENTER

FIELD.

I WAS LIKE OKAY.

Reporter: DESPITE HIS

OWN MISGIVINGS, THE PROS SAW

HIS ABILITY WITH THE BATTLE

OF THE BALL AND HIS SPEED,

WHICH WOULD MAKE HIM A

THREAT ON BASE, AND GIVE HIM

THE ABILITY TO CHASE DOWN

BALLS.

SO THE PHONE STARTED TO

RING.

I'VE BEEN PLAYING WITH SO

MANY ATHLETIC KIDS IN

BASEBALL, GOING TO ALL OF

THESE TOURNAMENTS, PERFECT

GAMES, YOU KNOW THESE KIDS,

ON THE MAGAZINES, SOME ON

ESPN.

ALL OF A SUDDEN MY SENIOR

YEAR CAME AROUND, AND THEY

WERE, LIKE, WE'RE GOING TO

DRAFT YOU THE FIRST ROUND.

AND MY PARENTS WERE, LIKE,

WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND I WAS, LIKE, I HAVE NO

IDEA.

Reporter: WHEN HE WAS

SELEC SELECTED, NATURALLY

THERE WERE DOUBTERS.

HIS ARM IS NOT STRONG

ENOUGH.

HE DOESN'T HAVE THAT POWER.

THE MINNESOTA TWINS GAVE ME

A CHANCE TO SHOW WHAT I'VE

GOT.

Reporter: AFTER PROVING

HIMSELF IN FOUR SEASONS WITH

THE MINORS, BEN WAS CALLED

UP WITH THE TWINS.

NOW HE IS IN HIS THIRD YEAR

IN THE BIG LEAGUE.

HE SAYS IT IS NOT JUST HIS

TALENT THAT HAS GOTTEN HIM

TO THE BIG LEAGUES, BUT THE

LORD.

IT IS A HUMBLING THING.

IT HELPED ME GROW UP.

YOU SEE LITTLE KIDS THERE

WHO LOOK UP TO YOU.

THEY'RE, LIKE, MAN, YOU'RE

MY HERO.

I'M, LIKE, I SHOULDN'T BE

YOUR HERO.

JESUS SHOULD BE YOUR HERO.

I'M PLAYING THIS FOR HIM.

PLAYING THIS GAME, I NEVER

PLAYED FOR MYSELF.

I WAS GOING TO PLAY FOR THE

BIG MAN UPSTAIRS.

BECAUSE HE GAVE ME THE

CHANCE TO DO THIS.

Reporter: ANYONE WHO

HAS PLAYED WITH BEN WILL

TELL YOU THAT HIS BEST

QUALITY ISN'T HIS ABILITY TO

CATCH POP FLIES, BUT HIS

CHARISMATIC PERSONALITY THAT

IS ROOTED IN HIS FAITH IN

THE LORD.

TO THIS DAY, I'M

JUST, LIKE, THANK YOU.

I'M JUST, LIKE, THANK YOU.

REALLY?

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO GIVE THIS

TO ME.

I WOULD LOVE YOU NO MATTER

WHAT.

BUT YOU GAVE ME THIS CHANCE,

I'M NOT GOING TO REGRET IT.

BEING THREE YEARS IN THE BIG

LEAGUES AND STILL HERE, THIS

IS DEFINITELY A BLESSING.

Pat: BOY, THAT'S

MR. HUSTLE.

I MEAN TO TELL YOU, THERE

WAS A GUY FOR THE REDS WHO

WAS CALLED MR. HUSTLE OR

CAPTAIN HUSTLE, BUT THIS GUY

IS A HUSTLER.

HE IS FABULOUS.

Wendy: AMAZING.

Pat: WE'RE GOING TO

TRANSITION T FROM THIS TO

SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT

COME IN ON THE E-MAIL AND

OFF OF Facebook AND HITTER

AND YON.

Wendy: TYLER WANTS TO

KNOW, AND HE SAYS, "I'M 15

AND I'M SO ADDICTED TO SEX.

I HAVE PRAYED MULTIPLE

TIMES, BUT I'M STILL

ADDICTED.

WHAT DO I DO?"

Pat: THAT IS A TOUGHY.

I MENTIONED BEFORE ABOUT

WHAT JOHN MENTIONED, YOU'RE

STRONG AND YOU'VE OVERCOME

THE EVIL ONE.

YOU HAVE THE MAXIMUM

HORMONES, 15, 16, BUT YOU

DON'T HAVE MAXIMUM

OPPORTUNITY, SO WHAT DO YOU

DO?

IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATED.

YOU NEED TO HAVE THE LORD

TOUCH YOU IN A VERY SPECIAL

WAY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY

ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I DON'T

KNOW HOW BAD YOU ARE.

NUMBER ONE, YOU CAN'T WATCH

PORN AND KEEP THOSE THINGS

IN CHECK.

YOU CANNOT LOOK AT DIRTY

PICTURES IN MAGAZINES AND

SEXUAL ACTIVITY.

YOU CAN'T DO IT.

YOU CAN'T TALK DIRTY WITH

YOUR FRIENDS.

YOU CAN'T FOCUS ON THOSE

THINGS.

YOUR MIND HAS TO BE FOCUSED

ON THE LORD.

AND YOU NEED TO ABSORB THE

BIBLE AND ABSORB JESUS.

AND YOU GIVE THIS TO HIM.

SURRENDER THIS.

ONE DAY GOD WILL GIVE YOU A

WIFE, AND YOU'LL BE MARRIED,

AND YOU'LL HAVE A HAPPY

FAMILY.

AND YOU'LL HAVE ANOUT LE AN

OUTLET FOR THOSE SEXUAL

PASSIONS THAT ARE IN YOUR

BODY.

YOU NEED TO TURN IT OVER TO

THE LORD.

BUT AS LONG AS YOU KEEP

STIMULATING THIS STUFF, IT

WILL CONTINUE TO STAY WITH

YOU.

IT MAY BE A DEMONIC THING

THAT HAS FASTED ON YOU, THEN

YOU NEED TO HAVE SOMEBODY

PRAY FOR YOU AND YOUR

DELIVERANCE.

I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT

YOU, AND I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A

PROBLEM AND YOU'VE GOT A

TOUGH WAY TO GO.

YOU HAVE TO DETERMINE, I AM

NOT GOING TO YIELD TO THESE

TEMPTATIONS.

Wendy: PAT WANTS TO

KNOW, "ON A SHOW YOU

ANSWERED A WOMAN ABOUT WHERE

TO INVEST MONEY.

YOU SAID, E.T.S.

WHAT DOES THAT STAND FOR?

I LOOKED IT UP?"

Pat: IT IS E.T.F., "F"

FOR FUND, NOT "S" FOR

SUGAR.

Wendy: THAT'S WHY SHE

COULDN'T FIND IT.

Pat: E.T.F.s ARE LIKE

MUTUAL FUNDS BUT THEY DON'T

HAVE THE SAME CARRYING

COSTS.

THEY'RE A LOT CHEAPER.

MAINLY WHAT I WAS

RECOMMENDING WAS THESE

MASTER LIMITED PARTNERSHIPS

THAT HAVE A FAVORABLE TAX

STATUS AND THEY PAY PRETTY

GOOD DIVIDENDS, AND THEY'RE

PRETTY STABLE, REGARDLESS OF

WHAT IS GOING ON.

IT IS E.T.F., "F" AS IN

FRANK.

Wendy: CYNTHIA WANTS TO

KNOW, "MY HUSBAND'S AUNT IS

TRYING TO CONVINCE ME OF HER

SPIRITUAL BELIEFS.

HOWEVER, SHE STRONGLY

BELIEVES WE CAN CALL UPON

ANGELS AND CALL THEM BY

NAME.

I THINK ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS

TO BE CALLED ON FOR THINGS

WE NEED."

Pat: YOU'RE EXACTLY

RIGHT.

THE BIBLE DOESN'T SAY THAT

WE HAVE ANGELS.

I KNOW THAT MAY SHAKE

PEOPLE.

WE DON'T INDIVIDUAL HAVE A,

QUOTE,"GUARDIAN ANGEL."

I THINK THE IDEA OF TRYING

TO NAME ANGELS AND PRAY TO

ANGELS, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY

NO BIBLICAL.

WE'RE TO PRAY TO THE LORD

HIMSELF, THROUGH JESUS

CHRIST, IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

THERE IS NO ANGEL -- YES,

ANGELS ARE REAL, AND WE HAVE

BEEN PLACED A LITTLE LOWER

THAN THE ANGELS, AND YET

JESUS CHRIST REALIZED WE'RE

GOING TO BE CROWNED WITH

GLORY AND HONOR ONE DAY.

AND ONE DAY WE WILL JUDGE

THE ANGELS.

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS,

ONE DAY YOU WILL JUDGE THE

ANGELS.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT TO

PRAY TO ANGELS.

IF GOD SENDS AN ANGEL, GIVE

THE ANGEL THE HONOR THEY'RE

DUE, BUT DON'T WORSHIP THEM

AND DON'T PRAY TO THEM.

YOUR AUNT IS WRONG.

Wendy: WILLIAM WANTS TO

KNOW, "SHOULD I GIVE MONEY

TO A HOMELESS PERSON ON THE

STREET.

MY NON-CHRISTIAN FRIEND

THINKS I SHOULD GIVE MONEY

TO THE HOMELESS.

I THINK I SHOULD ONLY GIVE

FOOD.

MY NON-CHRISTIAN FRIEND SAYS

I'M JUDGING."

Pat: SHOULD YOU GIVE AN

SEX ADDICT PORNOGRAPHY?

YOU'RE NOT JUDGING.

YOU'RE BEING HELPING.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE

DISCERNMENT.

WE DON'T FORSAKE WISDOM.

I REMEMBER UP IN NEW YORK,

THESE GUYS WERE ALWAYS

WANTING TO GO TO NEW

JERSEY.

YOU'RE THERE IN MANHATTAN,

AND I'VE GOT TO GET MONEY TO

GO ACROSS ON THE FERRY TO

JERSEY.

THAT WAS THE PITCH.

I'VE GOT MY FAMILY OVER

THERE.

WILL YOU PLEASE HELP ME.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO

JERSEY.

THEY WANTED TO GET A DRINK.

ONE OF THEM CAME UP TO ME

AND HE SAID, LOOK -- I SAID,

YOU WANT SOME FOOD.

RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET IS

THE RESTAURANT, AND I'LL

TAKE YOU OVER THERE AND BUY

YOU LUNCH.

AND HE LOOKED AT ME LIKE I

WAS OUT OF MY MIND.

Wendy: HE WANTED THE

CASH.

Pat: I UNMASKED HIM.

DON'T WILLY-NILLY GIVE YOUR

MONEY TO A PANHANDLER WILL

WHO USE IT TO BUY DRINKS.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE A FOOD CART

AT A WAL-MART OR GO BUY SOME

CLOTHES.

> YOU'RE FRIEND IS WRONG

AND YOU'RE RIGHT ON THIS

ONE.

THAT'S ALL OF TIME WE'VE GOT

FOR THIS.

WHEN SANDY SULLIVAN STARTED

A HOME-BASED BUSINESS, SHE

STRUGGLED TO MAKE A PROFIT.

FOR FIVE YEARS SANDY BARELY

BROKE EVEN UNTIL SHE FOUND A

WAY TO TRIPLE HER INCOME.

WATCH THIS.

Reporter: SANDY

SULLIVAN'S HUSBAND IS A

SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN, BUT

SANDY WANTE WANT CAREER

WANTED IS A CAREER OF HER

HOME, AND SHE WANTED TO BE

HOME WITH HER CHILDREN.

SO SHE STARTED HER OWN

BUSINESS.

THEY OFFERED ME AN

OPPORTUNITY TO BE HOME AND

BE THERE FOR MY KIDS AND NOT

HAVE TO GO TO AN OFFICE

EVERY DAY.

Reporter: FOR FIVE

YEARS, SANDY'S BUSINESS WAS

JUST GETTING BY.

SO SHE ASKED GOD TO HELP

HER, AND STARTED STUDYING

THE BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES THAT

DEAL WITH FINANCES.

I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH

GOD.

I SAID PARTNER WITH ME, HELP

ME.

SHOW ME WHAT YOU WANT ME TO

DO.

I'M WILLING.

Reporter: THE VERY NEXT

DAY SANDY WAS WATCHING "THE

700 CLUB" AND SAW THE BUDGET

PERSON, SANDRA CO KOFFMAN.

SO SANDY ALSO DECIDED TO

START TITHING AND BECOME A

"700 CLUB" PARTNER.

ALL OF A SUDDEN I HAD

PEOPLE CALLING ME SAYING,

WOULD YOU CONSIDER WORKING

WITH ME AND LECTURE.

IT WAS WONDERFUL.

Reporter: SANDY

INCREASED HER GIVING TO

CBN.

IT GOT TO THE POINT EVERY

TIME I WROTE A CHECK TO "700

CLUB" AND LITERALLY PUT IT

IN THE MAILBOX, 30 SECONDS I

WOULD GET A PHONE CALL FROM

SOMEBODY, SAYING UNDERSTAND

YOI UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE A

COMPANY.

Reporter: AND SANDY'S

INCOME TRIPLED.

THE NEXT YEAR I EARNED

$173,000.

Reporter: SANDY SAYS

GOD ASKS FOR US TO TITHE

BECAUSE HE WANTS TO BLESS

US.

HE IS THERE FOR YOU.

IF YOU GIVE, HE'LL GIVE BACK

TO YOU, SHAKEN DOWN,

OVERFLOWING.

IT IS ABOUT THE PRINCIPLE,

NOT THE AMOUNT.

I KNOW IF THERE IS SOMETHING

HE IS DIRECTING, I'M EXCITED

TO BE A PART OF IT BECAUSE I

KNOW IT WILL BE SOMETHING

AMAZING.

Pat: I LOVE SOMEBODY

WHO GRABS HOLD OF THE

BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES AND

LET'S THEM WORK OUT IN THEIR

LIFE.

LIFE.

AND SANDY DID IT, AND GOD

BLESSED HER.

I DON'T SAY GIVE TO GET, BUT

I SAY FOLLOW GOD'S

PRINCIPLES, AND LET THE LORD

DO WHAT HE PROMISED.

THE TELEPHONE NUMBER IS

THERE.

CALL IN.

WE NEED TO COUNT ON YOU.

TOMORROW, MEET A 9-YEAR-OLD

WHO COMPETES IN TRIATHLONS,

TOWING HIS DISABLED BROTHER

ALONG WITH HIM.

TODAY WE LEAVE WITH 1

TIMOTHY: "GODLINESS IS

PROFITABLE FOR ALL THINGS."

FOR LEE, WENDY, AND ALL OF

US, THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON.

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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