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The 700 Club - July 11, 2013

A lust for excitement drove Suzanne into a career traveling the world as a flight attendant, but she got more than she bargained for. Plus, Michael's crack addiction took his life into the gutter, literally. Read Transcript


THE PRESIDENT OF EXITOUS

INTERNATIONAL EXPLAINS WHY

HE CLOSED ITS DOORS.

WE ARE GOING OUT OF

BUSINESS SO THE CHURCH CAN

DO ITS JOB.

Lee: PLUS A FLIGHT

ATTENDANT'S MILE-HIGH

LIFESTYLE.

I HAD LOTS OF BOYFRIENDS,

AND I MADE SURE THEY WERE

NOT IN THE SAME PART OF THE

WORLD.

Lee: PLUS, ONE KID

BECOMES HIS WORST NIGHTMARE,

HIS OWN DAD.

I CAUGHT MYSELF DOING THE

SAME THING MY DAD DID.

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, TO

THIS EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB."

I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO

WELCOME MY DEAR CO-HOSTESS

BACK FROM THE FOUR CORNERS

OF THE EARTH.

Terry: WAS GONE FOR A

WHILE.

I'M GLAD TO GET BACK.

NORMAL IS GOOD.

Pat: YOU LOOK LOVELY.

I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMETHING:

YOU WERE WITH THE GYPSIES,

AND WE HAVE ROMANTIC VIEWS

OF GYPSIES WITH VIOLINS AND

DANCING AND FORTUNE

TELLING.

WHAT DID YOU FIND?

YOU WERE WITH GYPSIES,

WHERE, IN THE UKRAINE?

IN THE WESTERN PART OF

THE UKRAINE.

AND THERE ARE GYPSY

COMMUNITIES IN ROMANIA AND

HUNGARIA.

Terry: THEY REALLY

DON'T GO BY GYPSIES

ANYMORE.

SOME PEOPLE CALL THEM

TRAVELLERS.

IN FACT, THEIR FLAG HAS A

WHEEL ON IT.

THEY GAVE US THEIR FLAG

WHILE WE WERE THERE.

Pat: WHAT DID YOU

FIND?

Terry: THE ROMA PEOPLE

HAVE BEEN A DISPLACED PEOPLE

FOR A LONG TIME.

THEY COME OUT OF THE NORTH

OF INDIA MANY, MANY YEARS

AGO, AND THEY REALLY HAVE

NEVER HAD A PLACE OF THEIR

OWN TO BELONG.

BUT BECAUSE THEY'VE

TRAVELLED A LOT AND NOT BEEN

ACCEPTED BY PEOPLE, THERE IS

A LOT OF ILLITERACY, AND A

TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF

POVERTY.

IT IS THE KIND OF DEPTH OF

THAT THING THAT GOES ON FROM

GENERATION TO GENERATION.

Pat: WELL, GAMBLING,

THIEVES, STEALING, PROS

SUBSTITUTION, AND AL --

PROSTITUTION -- DO THEY DO

ALL OF THAT OR IS IT JUST

MYTH?

Terry: THERE IS

PROBABLY SOME OF THAT, BUT

SOME OF THAT IS MYTH.

THE PEOPLE WE SEE ARE IN

DESPERATE SITUATIONS.

YOU CAN IMAGINE IN A

COMMUNITY WHEN THERE IS

POVERTY, THERE IS SPECIFIC

NEEDS.

WHAT HAPPENS IN A COMMUNITY

WHEN THERE IS NO RUNNING

WATER.

AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE

IS NO SCHOOL.

EVEN THE PARENT DON'T READ

AND WRITE.

WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO

GO IN THERE, OPEN SCHOOLS,

TEACH THE KIDS TO READ AND

WRITE.

AND THEN THE PARENTS ASK CAN

WE TEACH THEM TO READ AND

WRITE.

AND THERE WAS NO WATER, AND

WE BROUGHT WATER IN.

Pat: DID YOU DIG A

WELL?

Terry: WE ACTUALLY PUT

IN A BATH HOUSE AND TOILET

FASS.

Pat: REALLY?

SO THEY COULD GET CLEAN?

Terry: SO THEY CAN GET

CLEAN.

AND THE KIDS LOVE IT.

WE HAVE IT SCHEDULED ON

AMERICAN DAYS OF THE WEEK.

VERY EXCITING.

AND BIG AGRICULTURAL

PRODUCTS.

SO THEY'RE LEARNING HOW TO

GROW THEIR OWN FOOD AND

BECOME SELF-SUSTAINING.

Pat: REALLY?

THAT'S SO EXCITING.

WE NEED TO GET SOME VIDEOS.

Terry: LET ME SAY THIS

TO YOU: THEY DO DANCE.

THEY'VE GOT A LIFE AND A VIM

AND VIGOR, AND IN THE

CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY WITHIN

THE ROMA CULTURE, PEOPLE ARE

ON FIRE FOR THE LORD AND

REALLY LOVE GOD, IN THE

MIDST OF THEIR NEED.

Pat: PLAY THE VIOLIN?

Terry: SOME DO.

WE HAVE A WORSHIP BAND THAT

WE WORSHIPPED WITH ON SUNDAY

THAT WAS QUITE ASTONISHING.

Pat: ANYHOW, ERIE OF

TERRY OF THE GYPSIES.

IT TURNS OUT WE SWITCH FROM

THE GYPSIES TO BIG BROTHER.

HE REALLY IS WATCHING YOU.

WE'VE LEARNED HOW WIDESPREAD

THE GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE

PROGRAMS ARE, AND THEY'RE

DOING IT WITH THE APPROVAL

OF A SECRET COURT.

Terry: THAT HAS PRIVACY

ADVOCATES OUTRAGED, AND SOME

ARE ASKING THE SUPREME COURT

TO STEP IN.

JENNIFER WISHON HAS THE

STORY FROM WASHINGTON.

Reporter: THE WAYS WE

CAN BE TRACKED THROUGH

TECHNOLOGY ADVANCE

CONSTANTLY.

IT IS HARD FOR YOU TO

KNOW ALL OF THE PLACES WHERE

INFORMATION IS BEING

GENERATED ABOUT YOU.

Reporter: BUT PRIVACY

ADVOCATES SAY IT SHOULDN'T

HAVE TAKEN AN INFORMATION

LEAK FOR AMERICANS TO LEARN

JUST HOW WIDESPREAD

GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE IS,

AND THE LEGAL JUSTIFICATION

IT USE TO CARRY OUT THAT

SURVEILLANCE.

LIKE IT WHEN IT ASKED MAJOR

PHONE SERVICE PROVIDERS,

LIKE HORIZON, TO TURN OVER

ITS CLIENTS' PHONE RECORDS,

ALL IN THE NAME OF NATIONAL

SECURITY.

THEY REVEAL WHO WE TALK

TO AND WHEN WE TALK TO THEM

AND WHO WE TALK TO THE

MOST.

Reporter: THE

ELECTRONIC PRIVACY

INFORMATION CENTER THIS WEEK

FILED AN EMERGENCY PETITION

WITH THE SUPREME COURT.

THE GROUP IS ASKING JUSTICES

TO DISSOLVE AN ORDER BY THE

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE

SURVEILLANCE BOARD WHICH

ALLOWS THE N.S.A. TO COLLECT

THE RECORDS OF MILLIONS OF

PHONE CALLS MADE EVERY DAY

BY AMERICANS RIGHT HERE IN

THE U.S.

AND THEY'RE COLLECTING

THIS INFORMATION, AS YOU

SAID, ABOUT PEOPLE WHO MAY

HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG OR

NOT BE IMPLICATED IN A

NATIONAL SECURITY

INVESTIGATION AT ALL.

Reporter: HERE IS THE

ISSUE: THE FOREIGN

INTELLIGENCE SURVEILLANCE

ACT, NINE AS FISA, ALLOWS

THE GOVERNMENT TO COLLECT

BUSINESS RECORDS.

IN THIS CASE, VERIZON.

BUT THE LAW SAYS THE RECORDS

MUST BE RELEVANT TO A

NATIONAL SECURITY

INVESTIGATION.

THE PROBLEM IS IN

INTERPRETING THAT LAW.

A SECRET FISA COURT IS IN

CHARGE OF APPROVING WHAT

RECORDS THE GOVERNMENT CAN

COLLECT.

AND THAT COURT IS REPORTEDLY

DEFINING THE WORD "RELEVANT"

VERY BROADLY.

SO MUCH SO THAT THE

GOVERNMENT CAN GAIN ACCESS

TO VIRTUALLY ANY ELECTRONIC

INFORMATION.

THE SPECIFIC FILES

REQUESTED HAVE TO BE

RELEVANT TO A SPECIFIC

INVESTIGATION.

WHEREAS WHAT IS HAPPENING

RIGHT NOW, FULL COLLECTION

OF ALL RECORDS OF AMERICANS

UNDER THE THEORY THAT AT

SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE

THEY MAY BECOME RELEVANT TO

SOME INVESTIGATION.

Reporter: THE SHEAR

OVERCOLLECTION OF

INFORMATION ON AMERICANS

RIGHT THERE IS TROUBLING

BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO SEE

HOW THAT COMPLIES WITH

EXISTING LAW AND

CONSTITUTIONAL

RESTRICTIONS.

AND THEN ONCE THE GOVERNMENT

HAS THAT INFORMATION IN ITS

DATA BASIS, THERE ARE VERY

FEW LIMITS, NOT ENOUGH

LIMITS, ON HOW THE

GOVERNMENT CAN USE THAT

INFORMATION.

Reporter: POTENTIAL

ABUSE THAT SOME FEAR WILL

EVENTUALLY LEAD TO A STATE

OF CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE.

IF THE INTERPRETATION OF

RELEVANCE UNDER THIS LAW IS

GOING TO BE SOME

INTERPRETATION THAT WE'VE

NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN A

CRIMINAL COURT OR CIVIL

COURT, THEN THE PUBLIC HAS A

RIGHT TO KNOW.

Reporter: THE N.S.A.

COLLECTS INFORMATION IN THE

NAME OF NATIONAL SECURITY,

BUT FRANKLIN SAYS SECURITY

AND PRIVACY DON'T HAVE TO BE

IN CONFLICT.

IN FACT, IF WE MAKE SURE

THAT TO HAVE APPROPRIATE

STANDARDS AND REQUIRE THE

GOVERNMENT TO ESTABLISH AN

APPROPRIATE PREDICATE, A

CONNECTION TO TERRORISM WHEN

THEY'RE ELECTIN COLLECTING

INFORMATION, HAD IS ACTUALLY

GOING TO MAKE THEIR PROGRAMS

MORE EFFICIENT, AND IT WILL

PROTECT PRIVACY BY LIMITING

THE INTRUSION ON THE RIGHTS

OF INNOCENT AMERICANS.

Reporter: FOR NOW, THE

GOVERNMENT, THE COURTS, AND

THE AMERICANS HAVE TO FIGURE

OUT HOW MUCH SURVEILLANCE IS

ACCEPTABLE AND NECESSARY IN

THE NAME OF SECURITY.

JENNIFER WISJENNIFER

WISHON, CBN NEWS,

WASHINGTON.

Pat: THANKS, JENNIFER.

I APPRECIATE OUR NEWS

DEPARTMENT FOR BRINGING THAT

VERY GOOD REPORT.

BUT THIS FISA COURT IS A

JOKE.

EVERYTHING IS RELEVANT.

ALL OF THE INFORMATION YOU

COLLECT IS RELEVANT TO

SOMETHING, SOME TIME, SOME

WHERE, OBVIOUSLY.

YOU KNOW, THE FLIGHT OF THE

MODERN BUTTERFLY IS RELEVANT

TO THE TEMPERATURE IN NEW

YORK SOONER OR LATER.

Terry: WOULDN'T YOU

THINK THAT THAT KIND OF

MASSIVE COLLECTION OF

INFORMATION WOULD MAKE

GETTING TO THE BAD GUYS

HARDER AND LESS EFFECTIVE?

Pat: OF COURSE.

BUT PLI POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS REFUSES TO

IDENTIFY THE REAL PEOPLE WHO

ARE OUR ENEMIES.

THEY WILL NOT IDENTIFY

RADICAL MUSLIMS AS THE ONES

WHO ARE THE ONES GOING TO

BLOW US UP.

AND THEY REFUSE TO IDENTIFY

THEM.

THEY WON'T NAME IT.

AND CONSEQUENTLY, WE BECOME

ALL SUSPECTS.

YOU KNOW, THAT NIGERIAN

BOMBER, HIS FATHER NOTIFIED

THE C.I.A.

HE SAID MY SON IS DOING

CRAZY THINGS.

WATCH HIM.

YOU LET HIM GO, AND HE WINDS

UP ON A PLANE IN DETROIT,

GETTING READY TO BLOW UP HIS

UNDERWEAR.

THE SAME THING WITH THESE

TSARNAEV BROTHERS.

THE RUSSIANS CAME TO US AND

SAID THESE PEOPLE ARE

DANGEROUS, AND WE DID

NOTHING ABOUT IT.

YET WE HAVE TO SURVEIL

EVERYBODY, AND HAVE LITTLE

OLD LADIES TAKING THEIR

SHOES OFF IN THE AIRPORT.

IT IS CRAZY WHAT WE'RE

DOING.

THE REASON IS POLITICAL

CORRECTNESS REFUSES TO

IDENTIFY THE ENEMY.

WE WON'T DO IT.

WE DO NOT HAVE A WAR ON

TERROR.

THE MUSLIMS ARE NOT

RADICAL.

WE DO NOT HAVE ENEMIES.

THAT MAJOR HUSSEIN WHO

SHOUTED ALLAH AKBAR AND

STARTED SHOOTING PEOPLE --

HE WASN'T A MUSLIM; HE IS

JUST A MISGUIDED SOLDIER.

YEAH, SURE.

HE WAS TAUGHT RADICAL

TEACHINGS, AND YET WE LET

HIM GET THROUGH THE

PSYCHOLOGICAL PROGRAM IN THE

MILITARY AND BECOME A

MAJOR.

UNBELIEVABLE.

BUT WHEN ARE WE GOING TO

WAKE UP.

THINK OF THIS MASSIVE THING

AND THE EXPENSES ARE

UNGODLY.

BUT IT MEANS EVERYTHING THAT

IS BEING SAID BY YOU ON THE

TELEPHONE OR IN YOUR E-MAILS

OR IN ANY TEXT YOU DO OR

YOUR CONVERSATION, IT IS ALL

GOING INTO BIG BROTHER'S

DATA BASE.

WHEW!

THAT IS SCARY.

LET'S STOP IT.

LET'S SCREAM.

LET'S DO SOMETHING, BUT THIS

IS DANGEROUS.

AND SO THAT SNOWDEN, IN MY

OPINION, BECOMES A HERO, NOT

A CRIMINAL.

WELL, TO LOOK AT SOME PEOPLE

WHO DEFINITELY ARE SHOWING

THEIR COLORS, AND THAT'S THE

GROUP CALLED THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD.

MOHAMMED IS OUR LEADER,

JIHAD IS THE WAY -- THEY'RE

NOT GOING TO GIVE UP THE

POWER IN EGYPT EASILY.

AND WENDY GRIFFITH HAS THAT

STORY FROM THE CBN NEWS

ROOM.

Wendy: THAT'S RIGHT,

PAT, EGYPT'S LEADERS ARE

TRYING TO COME UP WITH A

POLITICAL PLAN FOR THE

FUTURE, AND THE FINAL

DECISION WILL BE VERY

IMPORTANT FOR CHRISTIANS

THERE.

CHRIS MITCHELL HAS OUR STORY

FROM CAIRO.

Reporter: EGYPT'S NEW

PRESIDENT SET OUT A TIME

TABLE FOR HIS POLITICAL

ROADMAP.

AT THE SAME TIME, MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD MEMBERS WERE

CONTINUING THEIR CALL FOR

THE REINSTATEMENT OF

MOHAMMED MORSI IN ANOTHER

PART OF THE CITY.

GOD WILLING, WE ARE

PROTESTING IN ALL SQUARES

FOR THE RETURN OF MORSI.

Reporter: WHILE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD SUPPORTERS

PROTESTED, THEY'RE REFUSING

TO JOIN THE NEW POLITICAL

PROCESS.

THIS IS THE HEART AND

SOUL OF EGYPT IN THE MIDDLE

EAST FOR GENERATIONS TO

COME.

Reporter: MICHAEL MUHIR

SAYS EGYPT'S FUTURE IS BEING

DETERMINED NOW.

HE SAYS THE QUESTION IS IF

EGYPT'S NEW CONSTITUTION

WILL BE BASED ON POLITICAL

ISLAM THAT DRIVES GROUPS

LIKE THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.

WOULD POLITICAL ISLAM BE

THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND

THIS WHOLE HUNDRED YEARS TO

COME, OR IS IT GOING TO BE

MODERATION, CIVIL LIBERTY,

DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS,

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, AND THIS

YOU CANNOT GET WITH A

CONSTITUTION THAT IS BASED

ON A RELIGION.

Reporter: MUHIR SAYS

THE OUTCOME OF THE

CONSTITUTION WILL HAVE A

HUGE IMPACT ON THE MILLIONS

OF CHRISTIANS IN EGYPT.

FOR THE LOPPIN LONG-TERM

AND FOR THE FUTURE, IF WE

HAVE THE CONSTITUTIONS THAT

WE WANT TO HAVE, THAT

RESPECTS CIVIL LIBERTY AND

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM, I THINK

THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BE

MUCH BETTER FOR CHRISTIANS.

Reporter: THAT HOPE FOR

A BETTER FUTURE AND GREATER

FREEDOM IS WHY CHRISTIANS

TOOK TO THE STREETS DURING

WHAT MANY PEOPLE ARE CALLING

EGYPT'S SECOND REVOLUTION.

CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

CAIRO, EGYPT.

Wendy: THANKS, CHRIS.

AND THAT CHAOS IN EGYPT IS

ONE REASON WHY THE PRICE OF

OIL IS RISING.

WITH CONCERNS ABOUT OIL

SUPPLIES MAKING IT THROUGH

THE SUEZ CANAL, WHICH IS, OF

COURSE, CONTROLLED BY EGYPT,

OIL ROSE TO $107, AND THAT

MEANS HIGHER PRICES ARE

COMING TO THE GAS PUMP.

A HUMAN TRAFFICKING RING IN

FLORIDA IS BRANDING WOMEN

AND GIRLS WHO ARE USED FOR

PROSTITUTION.

A MAJOR BUST BEGAN BACK IN

MAY.

IT NETTED 92 ARRESTS, AMONG

THEM, A 15-YEAR-OLD GIRL.

OFFICIALS LEARNED SHE WAS

PART OF A TRAFFICKING RING

THAT WAS BRINGING WOMEN INTO

COUNTIES THROUGHOUT FLORIDA

TO SELL THEIR BODIES.

THE POLK COUNTY SHERIFF SAID

HE WAS OUTRAGED WHEN HE SAW

MARKINGS ON THE GIRL THAT

SHOWED THE SHE WAS BEING

TREATED LIKE A SLAVE.

IN THE YEAR 2013, WE ARE

TATTOOING, BRANDING

CHILDREN, AND PEOPLE ARE

USING THEM AS CONSUMABLE

MERCHANDISE, AND THEN THEY

SIMPLY THROW THEM AWAY.

Wendy: THE FLORIDA

ATTORNEY-GENERAL IS

INVESTIGATING.

I CERTAINLY HOPE SO, PAT.

Pat: WENDY, I AM JUST

IN SENSED AT WHAT IS BEING

DONE.

WE'VE GOT TO HAVE LAWS THAT

EXONERATE THESE GIRLS.

THE GIRLS ARE NOT

CRIMINALS.

THEY ARE NOT BREAKING ANY

LAW.

THEY ARE FORCED TO DO THESE

THINGS.

YET THERE IS A DRAGNET OUT

THAT WILL ARREST THE GIRLS

OFF THE STREETS, BOOK THEM

FOR SOME OFFENSE, AND THEN

TURN THEM LOOSE.

THAT'S NOT THE ANSWER.

THE ANSWER IS MAJOR, MAJOR

RESOURCES AGAINST HUMAN

TRAFFICKING.

WE'RE WORKING WITH THE

AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND

JUSTICE ON THIS ISSUE.

THE REGENT UNIVERSITY HAS A

WHOLE PROGRAM ON HUMAN

TRAFFICKING.

"OPERATION BLESSING" IS

WORKING ON IT.

AND I KNOW TERRY IS WORKING

WITH SOME OF THESE GIRLS

THAT ARE --

Terry: WELL, WE'RE

ACTUALLY ALL WORKING

TOGETHER ON CAMPUS HERE IN

AN EFFORT CALLED "SET FREE

NOW."

AND JOINING WITH OTHER

ORGANIZATIONS AROUND THE

COUNTRY.

IT IS A BIG ISSUE.

IT IS GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF

PEOPLE, BUT WE NEED TO ACT

NOW BEFORE IT GETS TOO BIG

AND TOO DEEP TO MAKE AN

IMPACT.

Pat: HAVE YOU RUN INTO

SOME OF THE GIRLS YOU'VE HAD

A CHANCE TO MINISTER TO?

Terry: IN OTHER

COUNTRIES, YEAH.

BUT WHAT IS REALLY SHOCKING

IS IT IS HAPPENING HERE IN

AMERICA, LIKE THE STORY IN

FLORIDA.

THIS IS DOMESTIC

TRAFFICKING.

Pat: THE GIRLS OF

RUN-AWAYS, AND THE COPS SAY

THEY'RE RUN-AWAYS -- WELL,

THEY'RE NOT RUN-AWAYS.

THEY HAVE BEEN CAPTURED.

I REMEMBER INTERVIEWING SOME

TIME AGO A MAN WHO WAS IN

THE VICE SQUAD IN CHICAGO.

AND THESE GIRLS WERE BEING

BROUGHT IN FROM MINNESOTA.

BLONDE-HEADED GIRLS, AND

THEY WERE PICKED UP BY PIMPS

WHEN THEY GOT OFF THE BUS IN

CHICAGO.

THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW,

THEY WERE TORTURED AND

BEATEN AND PUT ON THE

STREETS.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS

HORRIBLE.

AND YET A MILLION MEN AND

WOMEN ARE TRAFFICKED AROUND

THE WORLD.

A MILLION PEOPLE SUFFERING,

AND WE'VE GOT TO DO

SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

YOU READ THE 58 CHAPTER OF

ISAIAH, AND IT IS DELIVER

THOSE WHO ARE IN BONDAGE.

THAT IS OUR MANDATE.

WE MUST FULFILL OUR

MANDATE.

WENDY HAS MORE IN THE NEWS.

Reporter: HOUSE

REPUBLICANS HAVE DECIDED TO

EMBRACE A SMALLER STEP BY

STEP APPROACH TO IMMIGRATION

REFORM.

THEY WON'T PASS THE

COMPREHENSIVE PLAN BY THE

SENATE, BUT HOUSE REPUBLICAN

LEADERS SAY THE WHITE HOUSE

CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO SECURE

THE BORDER.

HOUSE G.O.P. MEMBERS HAVE

THEIR OWN IDEAS FOR

IMMIGRATION REFORM, BUT NO

CLEAR TIMETABLE FOR THEM.

HAVING FAT AROUND YOUR WAIST

COULD BE MORE DANGEROUS THAN

JUST BEING GENERALLY

OVERWEIGHT.

RESEARCHERS SAY THAT HAVING

A POT BELLY INCREASES THE

RISK OF HEART DISEASE AND

CANCER.

THAT'S BECAUSE WEIGHT AROUND

THE WAIST IS AN INDICATOR OF

FAT AROUND THE ORGANS.

IT PRODUCES CHEMICALS THAT

RAISE THE RISK OF DISEASE.

YOU HAVE TO REALLY

ADDRESS THOSE RISK FACTORS

THAT ARE THERE FOR HEART

DISEASE AND CANCER.

AGAIN, YOUR DIETARY INTAKE,

YOUR EXERCISE AND YOUR

WAIT.

ALL OF THOSE IMPORTANT

FACTORS ARE REALLY CRITICAL

IN HOW YOUR OVERALL HEALTH

IS.

Wendy: THE STUDY WAS

PUBLISHED ONLINE IN THE

AMERICAN JOURNAL OF

CARDIOLOGY.

APPARENTLY IT IS OKAY TO BE

PLACELY PLUMP, BUT NOT HAVE

A POT BELLY.

Pat: WELL, YOU DON'T

HAVE THAT DANGER.

BUT I DON'T KNOW -- WE'VE

HAD STUDIES ABOUT THIS, BUT

THE TROUBLE IS THIS FAT

RESTS ON TOP OF THE

MUSCLES.

SO YOU CAN DO ALL OF THESE

CRUNCHES AND ALL OF THESE

SQUATS AND ALL OF THESE

EXERCISES, AND YOUR MUSCLES

GET STRONGER, BUT THAT LAYER

OF FAT HANGS ON TOP OF IT.

SO WHAT DO WE DO TO GET RID

OF THE FAT?

THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF

MEDICINE AND PROGRAMS TO

TAKE THAT FAT OFF.

Terry: AND ENERGY --

NOT ARGUE, BUT FAT-BURNING

FOODS AS WELL.

WE TELL IT ALL HERE.

WE HAVE GOOD MEDICAL

REPORTERS THAT ARE ON TOP OF

IT.

Pat: I'M A GREAT FAN OF

GREEN TEA EXTRACT.

TRIPLE STRENGTH GREEN TEA

EXTRACT.

I GUESS IT BURNS FAT

EVERYWHERE, BUT YOU LOSE A

LOT OF STUFF.

GREEN TEA, TRIPLE STRENGTH,

EXTRACT.

LITTLE PILLS.

THREE OF THEM A DAY.

Terry: WELL, COMING UP,

THE REAL REASON WHY THE

NATION'S FLAGSHIP MINISTRY

TO HOMOSEXUALS SHUT ITS

DOORS.

I WISH WE HAD BEEN MORE

HONEST.

I WISH WE HAVE SHARED THE

DEPTH AND THE COMPLEXITY OF

OUR STORIES.

AND I THINK WE'VE TRIED FAR

TOO OFTEN TO MINIMIZE THAT

DISCUSSION.

AND IT HAS HURT PEOPLE IN

THE PROCESS.

Terry: HEAR FROM THE

FORMER PRESIDENT OF EXODUS

INTERNATIONAL.

THAT'S NEXT.

Pat: FOLKS, I'VE ASKED

OUR NEWS DEPARTMENT TO

PLEASE GIVE ME SOME

EXPLANATION TO THIS NEXT

STORY, AND I'M COMING UP

SHORT.

SO I'M GOING TO SHOW IT TO

YOU, AND LET YOU MAKE WHAT

YOU WILL OF IT.

BUT TO THE SURPRISE OF MANY,

EXODUS INTERNATIONAL

RECENTLY ANNOUNCED IT WAS

CLOSING DOWN.

FOR YEARS IT HAS BEEN THE

FLAGSHIP MINISTRY FOR PEOPLE

WHO WANTED TO LEAVE

HOMOSEXUALITY.

HEATHER CELLS SAT DOWN WITH

EXODUS PRESIDENT, ALAN

CHAMBERS, TO FIND OUT WHAT

HAPPENED, AND WHAT IF

ANYTHING IS NEXT.

Reporter: AFTER 37

YEARS IN MINISTRY TO THOSE

STRUGGLING WITH SAME-SEX

ATTRACTION, THE CLOSING OF

EXODUS CAUGHT MANY

OFF-GUARD.

THE PRESIDENT, ALAN

CHAMBERS, SAYS THE TIME WAS

RIGHT.

PART OF OUR DECISION WAS

WE'RE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS

SO THE CHURCH CAN DO ITS

JOB.

Reporter: AND SAYS

CHAMBERS, AFTER DECADES OF

TAKING THE HEAT ON THE GAY

ISSUE, EXODUS REMOVING

ITSELF AS A TARGET MADE

SENSE.

IT IS TOO MUCH FOR ANY

ONE PERSON OR ANY ONE

ORGANIZATION TO BEAR, TO BE

THE ENTITY THAT OWNS, REALLY

THE

RELIGIOUS OR CHRISTIAN

RESPONSE TO THIS ISSUE.

Reporter: CRITICS LIKE

PETER SPRAGG OF THE FAMILY

RESEARCH COUNCIL ALSO

BELIEVES SHUTTING DOWN WAS A

GOOD IDEA, BUT FOR A

DIFFERENT REASON.

HE SAYS EXODUS HAD

BEWILDERED MANY.

IT HAD REACHED A POINT OF

GENERATING A CERTAIN AMOUNT

OF CONFUSION BETWEEN THE

CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY AND THE

EX-GAY MOVEMENT.

NOW WE'RE ABLE TO FOCUS ON

THE CONTINUING MOVEMENT OF

THE EX-GAY MOVEMENT THAT

CHANGE IS POSSIBLE.

Reporter: CHAMBERS

AGREES WITH THE APOLOGY TO

THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN HURT BY

EXODUS.

CHAMBERS ISSUED A PUBLIC

STATEMENT AND WENT ON THE

OPRAH WINFREY NETWORK TO SAY

HE IS SORRY.

NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS

WOULD I POTENTIALLY HURT

ANOTHER PERSON.

YET HERE I SIT, HURTING

MILLIONS, BY FAILING TO

ACKNOWLEDGE THE PAIN THAT

PEOPLE EXPERIENCED.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY IN

THE EX-GAY MOVEMENT HAS

ANYTHING TO APOLOGIZE FOR.

THE OVERALL MOVEMENT OF THE

EX-GAY MOVEMENT IS "CHANGE

IS POSSIBLE."

THAT'S A VERY MODEST

STATEMENT.

Reporter: BUT CHAMBERS

SAYS HE FEELS COMPELLED TO

APOLOGIZE.

HE SAYS HE STILL HOLDS TO A

BIBLICAL WORLD VIEW THAT GOD

CREATED SEX FOR MEN AND

WOMEN IN THE BONDS OF

MARRIAGE, BUT FOR MANY, HE

SAYS, SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WILL

ALWAYS BE A STRUGGLE.

IT IS FOR HIM, HE SAYS, EVEN

AFTER 16 YEARS OF MARRIAGE.

WHAT HE REGRETS, THAT EXODUS

MANY TO BELIEVE THEY COULD

SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE THEIR

DESIRES.

I WISH WE HAD BEEN A

WHOLE LOT MORE HONEST.

I WISH WE HAD SHARED THE

DEPTH AND COMPLEXITY OF OUR

STORIES.

I FOLLOW CHRIST IN THE MIDST

OF THE REALITY I LIVE IN.

I HAVE AN AMAZING MARRIAGE.

EVEN IN THE REALITY OF

TEMPTATIONS AND STRUGGLES

AND ATTRACTIONS THAT ARE

STILL THERE.

AND I THINK WE'VE TRIED FAR

TOO OFTEN TO MINIMIZE THAT

DISCUSSION.

AND IT HAS HURT PEOPLE IN

THE PROCESS.

Reporter: PSYCHOLOGIST

MARK YARHOUSE'S 2007 STUDY

ON CHANGE AND ORIENTATION IS

ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY

REGARDED TO DATE.

WHILE IT SUPPORTS THE

POSSIBILITY, IT ALSO

UNDERSCORES CHAMBER'S

MESSAGE,

THAT

NOT

ALL WHO

WANT TO CHANGE ARE ABLE.

IT IS ALWAYS DIFFICULT TO

TALK ABOUT CHANGE.

BECAUSE THE AVERAGE PERSON

JUST HEARING THAT WILL

THINK, IS IT POSSIBLE TO

CHANGE?

AND THEY'LL THINK IN THEIR

MIND A SHIFT FROM COMPLETELY

GAY TO COMPLETELY STRAIGHT.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS

PARTICULARLY LIKELY.

THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR DATA

SHOWED.

Reporter: THE CHURCH'S

CHALLENGE, SAYS YARHOUSE, IS

TO NOT ONLY MINISTER THOSE

WHO WANT TO CHANGE THEIR

SAME-SEX ATTRACTION, BUT TO

WALK WITH THOSE WHO WALK

WITH THE LIFE-LONG

STRUGGLE.

WHAT COULD BE THE BENEFIT

OF THE CHURCH SAYING LET'S

HELP SOMEONE WALK WITH GOD

AND CULTIVATE THEIR

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, AND

MAYBE THEY WILL CHANGE IN

TIME.

Reporter: THE LEADERS

HOPE THAT THE SO-CALLED

DEATH OF THIS ORGANIZATION

RESULTS IN THE BIRTH OF A

NEW MOVEMENT THAT STARTS A

FRESH CONVERSATION ABOUT

FAITH AND SEXUALITY.

IT IS A BRAND NEW

ORGANIZATION WITH NO SUPPORT

AT THIS POINT.

NO FUNDING.

NO NOTHING.

AND YET I'M MORE EXCITED

THAN I AM ANYTHING.

Reporter: IN THE

MEANTIME, A NEW UMBRELLA

GROUP, "RESTORED HOPE

NETWORK," IS SEEKING TO

SERVE THE ORIGINAL MISSION

OF EXODUS, BY FOCUSING ON

CHANGE FOR THOSE WHO WANT

IT.

FOR MANY IN THE CHURCH, IT

IS A TIME TO RECOVER AFTER A

TUMULTIUS SUPREME, BETWEEN

THE BOY SCOUT CLOSINGS, AND

THE SAME-SEX LAWS.

BUT FOR CHAMBERS AND OTHERS,

IT IS THE PERFECT TIME TO

START OVER AND ENGAGE A

COUNTRY THAT IS PERHAPS MORE

DIVIDED THEN EVER.

REPORTING IN ORLANDO,

HEATHER CELLS, CBN NEWS.

Pat: I AM VERY PLEASED

THAT WE HAVE MANY, MANY,

MANY HOMOSEXUALS WATCHING

THIS PROGRAM.

AND MANY ARE LOOKING FOR

LOVE AND ACCEPTANCE AND

HELP.

AND I'M GLAD TO REPORT THAT

WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF THESE

PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING, YES,

WE WANT TO FOLLOW JESUS.

WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE

LIFESTYLE WE'RE IN, AND WE

WANT TO HAVE A BETTER WAY.

SO I THINK IT IS WONDERFUL

THAT THAT IS HAPPENING.

AND I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW,

WE'RE NOT ANTI-GAY OR ANTI-

ANTI ANYTHING.

THE BIBLE MAKES IT CLEAR,

THE APOSTLE PAUL, IN THE

SECOND CHAPTER OF ROMANS, IT

IS VERY EXPLICIT THAT THE

WORLD WOULD NOT SEE GOD,

THEY WOULD NOT ACCEPT GOD,

AND THEY BECAME WISE IN

THEIR OWN IMAGINATIONS, AND

THEIR FOOLISH HEARTS WERE

DARKENED.

AND THEN THEY BEGAN TO

EXCHANGE -- MEN BURNED IN

PASSION FOR OTHER MEN, AND

WOMEN EXCHANGED THE NATURAL

USE WITH MEN FOR SEX WITH

WOMEN, AND THIS WHOLE THING

CAME ABOUT WHEN THEY FIRST

FORSOOK GOD.

SO HOMOSEXUALITY WAS NOTHING

NEW.

IT WAS GOING ON IN FIRST

CENTURY ROAM.

ROME, BUT IT WAS BECAUSE

THEY HAD FORSAKEN GOD.

WHEN PEOPLE REUNITE WITH THE

LORD, THE LORD WILL GET

THEIR PRIORITIES THE WAY IT

IS SUPPOSED TO BE.

Terry: AND I THINK ONE

OF THE THINGS THAT CHAMBERS

WAS SAYING IS THAT MAYBE THE

CHALLENGE AND THE JOURNEY OF

THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO SEEM

TOO SIMPLE BECAUSE YOU WORK

THROUGH IT IN YOUR

RELATIONSHIP WITH THE LORD.

Pat: YOU WORK THROUGH

IT WHEN YOU MEET THE LORD.

IT CAN BE INSTANT -- THERE

ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE INTO

THIS HOMOSEXUAL THING

BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ABUSED

BY A PARENT, ABUSED BY A

COACH, ABUSED BY A FRIEND,

AND THEY'RE LITTLE BOYS OR

GIRLS AND THEY DON'T KNOW

ANY BETTER, AND THEN THEY

SOMEHOW THINK, I MUST BE

GAY.

WELL, THEY AREN'T.

AND THEY NEED TO COME OUT OF

THAT.

THERE ARE OTHERS THAT MAYBE

THEY HAVE SOME CHROMOSOMAL

DAMAGE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY

SAY.

AND THEY SAY YOU CAN'T COME

OUT OF THIS UNDER ANY

CIRCUMSTANCES.

IN ANY EVENT, THIS EXODUS --

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE

IS SAYING.

HE IS SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO

LET THE CHURCH DO WHAT

THEY'RE DOING?

THE CHURCH AIN'T DOING IT.

I'M SURE SOME OTHER

ORGANIZATION WILL RISE UP TO

HELP PEOPLE WHO WANT OUT.

Terry: WELL, STILL

AHEAD, A FAMILY MAN WHO LOST

EVERYTHING, INCLUDING HIS

HOME.

MY ADDICTION TOOK ME TO

THE STREETS.

BUT I HAD A BOTTLE IN ONE

HAND AND A CRACK PIPE IN THE

OTHER.

Terry: SEE HOW HE GOT

HIS LIFE BACK.

THAT'S NEXT.

Pat: THE ASSAULT ON OUR

KIDS IS UNBELIEVABLE.

AND ONE OF THE GREAT

ASSAULTS THAT TOOK PLACE

MAYBE 20 YEARS OR MORE AGO

WAS SOMETHING CALLED CRACK

COCAINE.

IT WAS A WATERED DOWN

VERSION OF COCAINE, BUT

BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS

FORMULATED, IT WAS EVEN MORE

POWERFUL AND MORE DEADLY

THAN COKE ITSELF.

THERE WAS A GUY NAMED

MICHAEL DUNLAP, AND HIS

FIRST LOVE WAS CRACK

COCAINE.

IT STOLE HIS HOME.

IT STOLE HIS FAMILY.

AND FOR 10 YEARS HE LIVED ON

THE STREETS.

AND THEN MICHAEL SAID, I'M

GOING TO COME FREE AND HE

MADE A CHOICE THAT SET HIM

FREE.

Reporter: MICHAEL

DUNLAP GREW UP IN FEAR OF

HIS FATHER.

MY FATHER WAS AN ANGRY,

ANGRY MAN.

HE TOOK IT OUT ON ME AS A

CHILD.

HE SINGLED ME OUT FROM MY

OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

HE ALWAYS TOLD ME THAT I

NEVER WAS GOING TO BE

ANYBODY IN LIFE.

AND I CARRIED IT IN MY

HEART.

I HATED MY FATHER.

I HATED THE WORLD.

AND I HATED GOD AT THE SAME

TIME.

BECAUSE IF THERE IS A GOD,

WHY DON'T YOU COME DOWN AND

HELP ME?

WHY DID YOU PUT ME HERE?

I DIDN'T CHOOSE TO BE HERE.

WHY DON'T YOU GET ME AWAY

FROM THIS MAN?

Reporter: IN HIS TEENS,

HE COVERED UP HIS PAIN BY

USING DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO

FEEL THE PAIN OF FACING MY

FATHER.

I STARTED SMOKING MARIJUANA

WHEN I WAS 11 YEARS OLD.

AND MARIJUANA LED ME TO

COCAINE.

I WENT FROM POWDER COCAINE

TO CRACK COCAINE.

Reporter: HE MARRIED IN

HIS 20s AND HAD A

DAUGHTER, BUT IT WAS CRACK

THAT RAN HIS LIFE.

MY ADDICTION TOOK US FROM

HOTEL TO HOTEL.

WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE

COULDN'T PAY THE BILLS.

WE GOT KICKED OUT OF OUR

APARTMENT.

I DIDN'T CARE ABOUT HER OR

OUR DAUGHTER.

MY ADDICTION TOOK ME TO THE

STREETS, LIVING UNDER

BRIDGES.

Reporter: REHAB CENTERS

WOULD GET HIM CLEAN LONG

ENOUGH TO RECLAIM HIS

FAMILY, BUT CRACK ALWAYS

CALLED HIM BACK TO THE

STREETS.

IT WAS LIKE A REVOLVING

DOOR, IN AND OUT.

I GO IN, STAY 30 DAYS, 60

DAYS, MAYBE 90 DAYS, AND

THEN I WOULD RETURN RIGHT

BACK TO THE STREETS, DOING

THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER

AGAIN.

ONCE I WOULD GET BACK OUT, I

WOULD MESS UP AGAIN.

SHE LEAVES AND I GO TO THE

TREATMENT CENTER.

AND THEN SHE WOULD COME BACK

AGAIN.

UNTIL SHE GOT SICK AND TIRED

OF ME DOING THE SAME THING

OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

SHE LEFT AND WAS GOING TO

STAY GONE.

Reporter: FOR OVER 10

YEARS, MICHAEL WAS HOMELESS

AND LIVED A LIFE OF CRIME.

HE WOULD DO ANYTHING TO GET

HIS NEXT FIX.

ANYTHING TO SUPPORT MY

HABIT.

DRUGS TROUBLE THE WAY THAT I

FELT AT THAT MOMENT.

I DIDN'T WANT TO FEEL HOW I

ABUSED MY WIFE, HOW I ABUSED

MY DAUGHTER.

I CAUGHT MYSELF MANY TIMES

DOING THE SAME THING TO MY

FAMILY THAT MY DAD HAD DONE

TO ME.

Reporter: WHILE LIVING

UNDER A BRIDGE IN THE

ATLANTA AREA, MICHAEL

REALIZED HIS ADDICTION TO

DRUGS HAD RUINED HIS LIFE.

HE WAS FINALLY READY TO BE

FREE FROM HIS CRACK

ADDICTION.

IT WASN'T UNTIL I DECIDED

THAT THIS WAS TOO BIG FOR

ME.

BUT I HAD A BOTTLE IN ONE

HAND AND A CRACK PIPE IN THE

OTHER.

THAT'S WHEN I ASKED GOD,

SINCERELY, TO FORGIVE ME AND

SAVE MY LIFE.

GOD, I'M TIRED OF LIVING THE

WAY I'M LIVING.

I'M TIRED OF ABUSING

MYSELF.

I CAN'T DEFEAT THESE DRUGS.

I NEED JESUS.

I NEED YOU TO COME INTO MY

LIFE.

ANYTHING TOO HARD FOR MAN IS

JUST RIGHT FOR YOU.

I DECIDED I WANTED TO GIVE

MY LIFE TO GOD.

Reporter: MICHAEL WAS

INSTANTLY SET FREE FROM HIS

CRACK ADDICTION.

TODAY I'M HAPPY TO SAY I

DON'T HAVE TO LIVE LIKE

THIS.

I'M FREE.

SATAN HAD 13 YEARS OF MY

LIFE, AND HE AIN'T GETTING

NO MORE.

YOU HAD 13 YEARS, AND THAT'S

ALL YOU'RE GOING TO GET.

YOU AIN'T GONNA GET NO

MORE.

BECAUSE TODAY I CHOOSE NOT

TO GET HIGH.

HE WIPED IT CLEAN, LIKE YOU

SAID.

I KNOW WHAT MY GOD DID FOR

ME.

HE TOLD ME TO RELEASE IT.

I GAVE IT TO HIM, AND ONCE I

DID THAT, HE SAID, NOW YOU

FREE.

THAT'S A PART OF MY LIFE

LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED.

HE TOOK IT.

I ASKED GOD FOR

FORGIVENESS.

GOD FORGAVE ALL OF THE BAD

THINGS THAT I DID IN MY

LIFE.

BUT IF I WANTED GOD TO

FORGIVE ME, I HAD TO FORGIVE

MY FATHER.

TODAY ME AND MY FATHER HAVE

A REAL STRONG RELATIONSHIP.

Reporter: HE HAS BEEN

REUNITED WITH HIS FAMILY AND

HAS A SUCCESSFUL CONTRACTING

BUSINESS.

HE OFTEN GOES BACK TO THE

STREETS AND SHARES THE GOOD

NEWS OF GOD'S LOVE WITH

THOSE WHO ARE IMPRISONED BY

ADDICTION.

GOD CARRIED ME.

I MIGHT NOT HAVE SEEN HIS

FOOTSTEPS, BUT I FELT HIM.

I FELT HIM CARRY ME THROUGH

ALL THE HARD TIMES I HAD IN

MY CHILDHOOD AND ADULT

LIFE.

AND I WORSHIP HIM TODAY.

AND I PRAISE HIM TODAY.

THAT HE IS IN MY LIFE.

Pat: YOU KNOW

SOMETHING, FOLKS?

IN CASE YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT,

I'M A SINNER.

AND SO ARE YOU.

THERE ISN'T ONE OF US THAT

IS NOT A SINNER.

NOW, I MIGHT NOT USE CRACK

OR ANY KIND OF DRUGS -- I

DON'T -- NEVER HAVE.

BUT THOSE THAT HAD, THEY'RE

SINNERS, JUST LIKE I'M A

SINNER AND JUST LIKE YOU'RE

A SINNER.

AND WE'VE BROKEN GOD'S

LAWS.

AND THE NICE THING IS, THE

WONDERFUL THING IS, IS THAT

GOD ALMIGHTY, THE ONE WHO

MADE US, HAS LOOKED DOWN

FROM HEAVEN, REACHED DOWN

FOR US, AND SAID, MY CHILD,

I WILL FORGIVE YOU.

I WILL CLEANSE YOU, AND I

WILL MAKE YOU PART OF MY

FAMILY.

AND YOU CAN LIVE WITH ME

FOREVER.

AND I'M GOING TO LET YOU BE

PART OF HEAVEN.

P IAND IT IS SO GREAT, EYE

HASN'T SEEN IT, EAR HASN'T

HEARD IT, NEITHER HAS IT

ENTERED INTO THE HEART OF

MAN WHAT I HAVE PREPARED FOR

YOU.

IT IS GOING TO BE SO

GLORIOUS.

FOLKS, I DON'T DESERVE IT,

AND YOU DON'T DESERVE IT.

NONE OF US DO.

THERE IS NOT ONE OF US WHO

DOES RIGHTEOUSNESS, NO, NOT

ONE.

THERE WAS ONLY ONE WHO WAS

GOOD.

THERE WAS ONLY ONE GUY WHO

CAME TO JESUS AND SAID YOU

ARE PERFECT, AND HE SAID I'M

NOT PERFECT.

ONLY GOD IS PERFECT.

JESUS CHRIST WILL LOVE YOU

AND FORGIVE YOU AND HE'LL

CLEAN YOU UP AND MAKE YOU

PART OF HIS FAMILY.

AND THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

IT'S SO WONDERFUL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE THE

WAY YOU'RE LIVING.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO FROM

PLACE TO PLACE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE LIVING

UNDER A BRIDGE OR A TRESSEL

OR OUT IN THE SLUM SOME

PLACE.

YOU CAN BE A CHILD OF GOD.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY,

FATHER, I WANT TO COME

HOME.

I WANT TO COME HOME.

I WANT TO BE PART OF MY

FATHER'S HOUSE.

AND HE'LL RUN TO YOU AND

THROW HIS ARMS AROUND YOU

BECAUSE HE LOVES YOU.

I DON'T DESERVE THIS.

BUT HE HAS GIVEN IT TO ME.

THAT'S WHAT GRACE IS.

IT IS UNMERITED FAVOR.

AND GOD REACHES OUT TO YOU

TODAY, AND HE SAYS, CHILD,

WILL YOU LISTEN TO ME.

I LOVE YOU.

AND I'VE GOT SOMETHING

WONDERFUL FOR YOU.

IF YOU WOULD JUST LET ME

GIVE IT TO YOU.

SO WOULD YOU TAKE A FREE

GIFT?

THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE.

IF YOU WILL, I WANT YOU TO

PRAY WITH ME.

DO IT NOW.

DON'T GO ANYWHERE.

JUST BOW YOUR HEAD RIGHT

THIS SECOND.

PRAY THESE WORDS AND MEAN

THIM I THEM IN YOUR HEART.

DO IT.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT.

JESUS, I KNOW YOU DIED FOR

ME.

I KNOW YOU ROSE AGAIN.

I KNOW YOU'RE COMING BACK

AGAIN.

AND, LORD, I CONFESS TO YOU

THAT I'M A SINNER.

I DON'T DESERVE YOUR LOVE.

I DON'T DESERVE YOUR

KINDNESS.

BUT, LORD, I SAY NOW I

RECEIVE YOU AS SAVIOR AND I

TAKE THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU

WANT TO GIVE ME.

I RECEIVE THEM WITH THANKS

AND PRAISE.

COME NOW INTO MY HEART, LIVE

IN ME, AND SET ME FREE FROM

THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE

ENSLAVED ME.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR

FREEDOM.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR LOVE.

THANK YOU.

FATHER, FOR THOSE WHO PRAYED

WITH ME JUST THEN, MAY THE

POWER OF THE LORD COME UPON

THEM.

MAY THEY BE SET FREE FROM

DRUGS, FROM ALCOHOL, FROM

FEAR, FROM ALL OF THE THINGS

THAT WOULD COME AGAINST THEM

IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN.

I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU.

SOME TIME AGO I WENT INTO

OUR VERY NICE AUDIO BOOTH,

AND I SAT BEFORE A

MICROPHONE, AND I SHARED

ABOUT 73 MINUTES OF VERY

INTENSE TEACHING ABOUT WHAT

HAPPENED TO YOU JUST THEN,

WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE AN

EXCHANGED LIFE.

WHAT ABOUT THE SECOND COMING

OF THE LORD?

WHAT ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS

THAT YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT?

WE'LL SEND YOU THIS FREE.

IT IS CALLED "A NEW DAY."

JUST SAY, I PRAYED WITH PAT

AND I GAVE MY HEART TO THE

LORD.

1-800-759-0700.

CALL IN.

WE'VE GOT COUNSELLORS ON THE

PHONE.

THEY LOVE YOU.

JUST SAY, I JUST PRAYED.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE GOOD

NEWS.

AND WOULD YOU PLEASE SEND ME

THIS LITTLE BOOKLET CALLED

"A NEW DAY."

THE PHONES ARE AVAILABLE.

IF FOR ANY REASON THEY'RE

BUSY, PLEASE CALL BACK.

WE'LL BE HERE ALL DAY LONG.

TERRY?

Terry: STILL TO COME,

WE'RE GOING TO ASK PAT A FEW

QUESTIONS FROM OUR IN BOX.

PAULA SAYS, "THE BIBLE SAYS

A WOMAN SHOULD NOT WEAR A

MAN'S DIAMOND.

DOES THIS MEAN THAT WOMEN IN

THE MILITARY AND SPORTS ARE

DISOBEYING GOD'S WORD?"

STAY TUNED FOR ANOTHER

VERSION OF "BRING IT ON"

WHEN WE RETURN.

WELCOME BACK TO

WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN NEWS

BREAK.

THE ARMY MAJOR ON TRIAL FOR

THE MASSACRE AT FORT HOOD

SAYS HE SUPPORTS THE TALIBAN

AND ISLAMIC SHARÍA LAW.

HE IS ACCUSED OF KILLING 13

PEOPLE AND WOUNDING NEARLY

THREE DOZEN AT THE TEXAS

ARMY BASE IN 2009.

HE REPORTEDLY SHOUTED ALLAH

AKBAR BEFORE OPENING FIRE ON

A CROWD OF SOLDIERS.

HE IS SERVING AS HIS OWN

ATTORNEY.

HE QUESTIONED SEVERAL

POTENTIAL JURORS ON

WEDNESDAY ABOUT THEIR

ABILITY TO PUT ASIDE ANY

PREJUDICE CONCERNING HIS

ISLAMIST VIEWS.

OFFICIALS IN WEST VIRGINIA'S

WYOMING COUNTY SAY THEY

WON'T REMOVE A 10

COMMANDMENTS ON THE LAWN.

THE GROUP SAYS GOVERNMENT

PROPERTY IS BEING USED TO

ADVOCATE ONE RELIGION OVER

ANOTHER, BUT THE COUNTY

PROSECUTOR SAYS IT ISN'T.

HE SAYS THE MONUMENT

PROMOTES LAWS BASED ON SOME

OF THE COMMANDMENTS.

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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: "BRING IT ON" IS

THE SEGMENT WE DEVOTE TO

YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

PAT, THIS FIRST ONE IS FROM

ALLANA, WHO SAYS,

DEUTERONOMY 22: 5 SAYS A

WOMAN SHOULD NOT WEAR A

MAN'S GARMENT.

WHAT DOES THIS SCRIPTURE

REALLY MEAN?

DOES IT APPLY TO THIS

GENERATION?

AND IF IT DOES, ARE WOMEN IN

THE MILITARY AND SPORTS

DISOBEYING?"

Pat: I THINK JESUS SAYS

I FULFILL THE LAW.

YOU LOVE THE LORD, YOUR GOD,

WITH ALL OF YOUR HEART,

SOUL, AND MIND AND

STRENGTH.

AND THE OTHER IS LOVE YOUR

NEIGHBORS AS YOURSELF.

I THINK THE DIETARY LAWS ARE

FINISHED BECAUSE JESUS SAID

HE FULFILLED THEM.

AND I THINK THESE LAWS

CONCERNING DRESS -- I THINK

THEY PERTAIN PERHAPS TO

ANOTHER GENERATION.

THERE ARE PEOPLE, FOR

EXAMPLE, WHO ARE A LITTLE

STRANGE, AND THEY DO HAVE

FETTISHES AND THEY DO DRESS

UP IN WOMEN'S UNDERWEAR AND

THAT KIND OF STUFF.

MAYBE THAT IS WHAT THE BIBLE

IS TALKING ABOUT.

BUT I THINK UNIFORM AND

SPORTS ATTIRE --

Terry: ARE APPROPRIATE

TO THE EVENT?

Pat: I DON'T THINK

THOSE LAWS APPLY TO US.

Terry: MARLENA

SAYS, "MY MOM IS DYING FROM

A LUNG DISEASE.

SHE WATCHED YOUR SHOW THE

OTHER MORNING.

AND WHEN I ARRIVED, SHE SAID

YOU SAID THE BIBLE SAYS

CREMATION IS WRONG.

HERE IS THE PROBLEM: MY MOM

DOESN'T HAVE ANY MONEY, AND

NEITHER DO I.

IT BREAKS MY HEART TO KNOW

SHE WOULD RATHER BE BURIED,

AND YET IT WOULD COST

THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WE

DON'T HAVE.

NOW MY MOM BELIEVES IT IS

WOULD BE WRONG AS A

CHRISTIAN TO BE CREMATED.

I LOVE MY MOM A LOT, BUT

WOULDN'T IT ALSO BE WRONG TO

GO INTO DEBT FOR MAJOR YEARS

TO GIVE HER A BURIAL.

WHAT DO I TELL HER?"

Pat: THERE ARE ALL

KINDS OF BURIALS.

SOME YOU CAN GET ON THE

CHEAP SIDE.

I WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I

SAID BEFORE.

IN THE OLD TESTAMENT,

ESPECIALLY, TO BURN

SOMEBODY'S BONES WAS AN

INSULT.

THEY WOULD DIG UP THE BONES

AND BURN THEM.

IT WAS THE ULTIMATE INSULT.

AND YOU TALK ABOUT JOSEPH

FOR EXAMPLE, AND HE WAS IN

EGYPT, BUT HE GAVE

DIRECTIONS CONCERNING HIS

BONES.

TAKE MY BONES OUT OF HERE

AND CARRY THEM UP TO CAN

CANAAN AND CARRY BURY THEM

THERE.

ABRAHAM WENT TO GREAT LENGTH

TO A GET A BURIAL GROUND FOR

HIS WIFE.

I DIDN'T SAY IT WAS WRONG,

BUT IT IS CONTRARY TO WHAT

THE BIBLE SAYS.

Terry: DOESN'T THE

INTENTION OF IT CHANGE YOUR

OPINION ON THAT?

Pat: NOT AT ALL.

I THINK IT IS AN INSULT.

I THINK THE IDEA OF

PRESERVING A BODY.

I'M SURE THAT SOMEWHERE

ALONG THE WAY YOU CAN FIND A

MORTICIAN WHO WOULD GIVE YOU

A DISCOUNT BURIAL.

IF YOU CAN'T SCRAPE UP A

COUPLE THOUSAND BUCKS, THERE

IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH

YOU.

BUT YOUR MOTHER DESERVES

IT.

I'M NOT SAYING IT IS QUOTE A

"A SIN," BUT I'M JUST SAYING

IT IS AN INSULT FOR A PERSON

TO BE BURNED.

THAT'S THE BIBLICAL

INTERPRETATION OF IT.

Terry: CLAUDIA SAYS, "I

HEAR A LOT OF CRITICISM

ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA.

MANY IS MEAN AND

EXAGGERATED.

AS CHRISTIANS, DON'T WE HAVE

TO ABIDE BY ROMANS 13 AND

PRAY FOR OUR PRESIDENT.

AND SHOULDN'T WE ALSO PRAY

FOR OUR AUTHORITIES SO THEY

HAVE GOD'S HELP WHEN THEY

MAKE DECISIONS THAT AFFECT

US.

AREN'T ALL IN AUTHORITY

BECAUSE GOD PUT THEM

THERE?"

Pat: I HATE TO SAY

YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT YOU ARE

RIGHT.

Terry: WHY DO YOU HATE

TO SAY THAT?

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

Pat: WELL, YOU SEE

SOME OF THESE PEOPLE IN

AUTHORITY, AND YOU SAY, DEAR

LORD, IS IT THAT YOU

POSSIBLY PUT THEM THERE.

BUT THE BIBLE SAYS ALL

AUTHORITY IS FROM GOD, THE

KING AND SO FORTH.

THOSE SCRIPTURES WERE

WRITTEN UNDER EVIL PEOPLE.

SOME OF THOSE EMPERORS WERE

JUST DEPRAVED.

AND YET WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE

LAW-ABIDING.

AND YES, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO

PRAY FOR THOSE IN AUTHORITY

OVER US.

AND WE ASK THAT GOD WOULD

GIVE THEM WISDOM THAT THEY

MAKE WISE DECISIONS.

SO BY ALL MEANS, PRAY FOR

OUR PRESIDENT.

AND RECOGNIZE HE IS GOING

OUT OF OFFICE.

AND IN A FREE SOCIETY --

JESUS HAD RENDERED TO CAESAR

WHAT IS CAESAR, AND TO GOD,

WHAT IS GOD.

THE PEOPLE ARE CAESAR.

WE HAVE A CHOICE OF CHOOSING

OUR LEADERS.

AND WE NEED TO HAVE WISE

LEADERS.

SO THE NEXT TIME AROUND,

WE'RE GOING TO BE CHOOSING

CONGRESS, FIRST OF ALL, AND

THE HOUSE AND THEN THE

SENATE, AND THEN PRESIDENT.

AND WE DESPERATELY,

DESPERATELY NEED GODLY

LEADERS.

SO WHAT YOU SAY IS

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

BUT I KNOW IF YOU DISAGREE

AS THOROUGHLY AS I DO WITH

SOME OF THE POLICIES, HAVE

YOU TO GAG WHEN YOU SAY

THAT.

LORD, BLESS HIM.

WE NEED TO SAY, GOD, BLESS

OUR LEADERS.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IN

WHAT YOU SAY.

TERRY?

Terry: WE THANK YOU FOR

YOUR QUESTIONS AS WELL.

WE ALWAYS LOVE HEARING FROM

YOU AND KNOWING WHAT IT IS

YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE

ABOUT.

IF YOU'VE EVER FLOWN IN A

PLANE, YOU KNOW IT IS THE

JOB OF A FLIGHT ATTENDANT TO

PASS OUT DRINKS, POINT OUT

THE EXITS, AND OTHER

SECURITY MEASURES.

A GENERATION AGO,

STEWARDESSES HAD ANOTHER

JOB: TO LOOK PRETTY.

IT WAS A JOB MANY YOUNG MEN

AND WOMEN WANTED, AND ONLY A

FEW LUCKY ONES, LIKE SUZANNE

BYRD, WERE ACTUALLY ABLE TO

GET.

IN THE '60s AND '70s,

WAS A JOB FULL OF GLAMOUR

AND TRAVEL.

YOU HAD TO BE THE PERFECT

WEIGHT, THE PERFECT HEIGHT,

AND FULL OF CHARISMA.

AND SUZANNE WAS BORN TO BE

AN AIRLINE STEWARDESS.

I APPLIED AT NORTHWEST

AIRLINES.

THE GENTLEMAN SAID WE WILL

HIRE YOU.

I HAD TO RESIST JUMPING

ACROSS THE DESK TO GIVE HIM

A GREAT BIG HUG AND KISS.

Reporter: DESPITE HER

POSITION AND CHARM, NO ONE

WOULD HAVE GUESSED FOR YEARS

SUZANNE EXPERIMENTED WITH

DRUGS AND STRUGGLED WITH

CRIPPLING INSECURITIES.

SUZANNE ENJOYED A HAPPY

CHILDHOOD AND A LOVING

FOOM.

LOVING FAMILY.

AND AT SEVEN YEARS OLD, SHE

BECAME A BEAUTY QUEEN.

SHE EXCELLED IN SCHOOL, AND

SHE LONGED FOR THE APPROVAL

OF OTHERS.

I WOULD HAVE TO GET UP IN

FRONT OF AUDIENCES OF 500

PEOPLE.

I WAS IN COMMERCIALS, AND I

MET SOME MOVIE STARS, AND IT

WAS JUST A VERY FUN TIME FOR

ME.

BUT I TRIED TO FIND MY

SECURITY IN THE WRONG

THINGS.

Reporter: IN HER TEENS,

SUZANNE WANTED TO BE POPULAR

WITH BOYS HER AGE, BUT THEY

BARELY NOTICED HER.

IT SHATTERED HER CONFIDENCE,

AND HER GRADES SUFFERED,

TOO.

EDUCATION AT THAT TIME

WAS NOT IMPORTANT.

BOYS WERE MORE IMPORTANT.

Reporter: WHEN SHE

TURNED 21, SUZANNE WAS

NATURALLY DRAWN TO A CAREER

AS A STEWARDESS.

AND THE ATTENTION THAT CAME

WITH IT.

I WAS ON TOP OF THE

WORLD.

I HAD LOTS OF BOYFRIENDS,

AND I MADE SURE THEY WERE

NOT ALL IN THE SAME STATE OR

PART OF THE WORLD.

I HAD ONE IN GREECE, ONE IN

ITALY, ONE IN WASHINGTON

STATE, WASHINGTON, D.C.,

SWEDEN, MANY PLACES IN THE

UNITED STATES.

I FELT GOOD ABOUT THAT

BECAUSE THEY LIKED ME.

I DIDN'T REALIZE MANY OF

THEM POSSIBLY JUST WERE

TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ME.

Reporter: SUZANNE

SEARCHED FOR LOVE AND

AFFIRMATION IN EVERY TIME

ZONE.

WHEN YOU ARE AN INSECURE

PERSON, YOU DO WHAT EVERYONE

ELSE WANTS YOU TO DO.

PEOPLE WOULD SAY TO ME, OH,

SUZANNE, YOU'RE SO FUNNY

WHEN YOU'RE DRUNK, SO I

WOULD GET DRUNK.

IT WAS ACCEPTED TO DO DRUGS,

SO I SMOKED MARIJUANA, DID

SOME ME MESCALIN.

Reporter: SUZANNE

PARTIED ALL THROUGH HER

20s, WHILE HER FRIENDS

MARRIED AND STARTED FAMILIES

OF THEIR OWN.

IN HER EARLY 30s, SUZANNE

DECIDED SHE WAS READY TO

SETTLE DOWN.

SHE MET AND MARRIED RAYMOND,

AND SHE FELT LIKE SHE HAD IT

ALL.

BUT THREE YEARS INTO THEIR

MARRIAGE, RAYMOND STARTED

TRAVELLING EXTENSIVELY FOR

WORK, AND SUZANNE WAS HOME

ALONE MANY NIGHTS.

MY IMAGINATION WENT

WILD.

I WAS PETRIFIED TO STAY AT

HOME.

I BECAME VERY FRIGHTENED,

VERY ANXIOUS, AND THEN I

BECAME VERY DEPRESSED.

IT WENT INTO SEVERE

DEPRESSION.

AND I'M THINKING, HOW COULD

THIS BE?

I'M VERY HAPPY PERSON.

I HAVE A WONDERFUL HUSBAND,

A BEAUTIFUL HOME, A FABULOUS

CAREER -- I HAD EVERYTHING.

SO I THOUGHT.

Reporter: AS SUZANNE

STRUGGLED WITH DEPRESSION,

HER BEST FRIEND TOLD HER

ABOUT GOD.

SHE HAD JUST BECOME A

CHRISTIAN, AND SHE WAS

EXCITED.

SHE SAID, SUZANNE, HAVE YOU

EVER, EVER PUT YOUR FAITH

AND TRUST IN JESUS AS YOUR

SAVIOR?

TO WHICH I ROLLED MY EYES.

I WASN'T VERY NICE TO HER AT

ALL.

FAST FORWARD SIX MONTHS

LATER, AND I WAS IN HER HOME

AGAIN.

AND I SAID, GAIL, I'M LOSING

MY MIND.

I CANNOT FUNCTION ANYMORE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING

ON.

AND SHE SAID, SUZANNE, NOW

DO YOU WANT TO PLACE YOUR

FAITH AND TRUST IN JESUS?

WELL, AT THAT TIME, ALL I

WANTED WAS PEACE OF MIND.

I JUST WANTED TO BE NORMAL

AGAIN.

I SAID YES.

SO WE PRAYED A VERY SIMPLE

PRAYER, AND IT WAS, JESUS,

HELP SUZANNE.

TAKE THIS ANXIETY AWAY FROM

HER.

COME INTO HER LIFE.

IT WAS A VERY, VERY SIMPLE

PRAYER.

AND WHEN I PRAYED THAT

PRAYER, THERE WAS RELIEF.

THERE WAS HOPE.

Reporter: SUZANNE

STARTED GOING TO BIBLE

STUDIES WITH HER FRIEND GAIL

ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AS SHE DID, THE ANXIETY AND

DEPRESSION BEGAN TO FADE

AWAY.

I STARTED TO STUDY THE

BIBLE, AND I LEARNED MORE

AND MORE AND MORE ABOUT

JESUS, AND WHAT HE DID FOR

ME, HOW HE DIED ON THE CROSS

FOR ME, HOW HE SUFFERED FOR

ME.

I BROUGHT JESUS FROM MY HEAD

TO MY HEART.

AND HE WAS MY MASTER.

HE WAS MY SAVIOR.

HE WAS EVERYTHING TO ME.

BECAUSE I CONCENTRATEED ON

HIM, I DIDN'T CONCENTRATE ON

MY DEPRESSION, MY ANXIETY,

MY FEAR.

YOU CAN'T CONCENTRATE ON

BOTH OF THEM.

Reporter: IMMEDIATELY

RAYMOND BEGAN TO SEE A

CHANGE IN HIS WIFE'S MENTAL

STATE, AND THREE YEARS

LATER, HE ACCEPTED JESUS

CHRIST AS HIS SAVIOR.

TODAY SUZANNE IS RETIRED

FROM HER JOB AS A FLIGHT

ATTENDANT AFTER 40 YEARS.

SHE IS ALSO A FULL-TIME

CHRISTIAN SPEAKER, SHARING

THAT JESUS IS NOW ALL OF THE

SECURITY THAT SHE NEEDS.

I LIVED MY OWN LIFE.

I DID NOT LIVE FOR JESUS.

I LIVED FOR SUZANNE.

AND I ALSO LIVED FOR

EVERYBODY ELSE.

AFTER I PUT MY FAITH AND

TRUST IN JESUS, I STARTED

LIVING FOR HIM, AND HIM

ALONE.

I WANT TO TELL AS MANY

PEOPLE AS I CAN TELL ABOUT

JESUS CHRIST.

Terry: SELF-WORTH,

VALUE, KNOWING THAT WE

MATTER.

EVERY ONE OF US WANTS AND

NEEDS THAT.

AND UNTIL WE COME TO

UNDERSTAND THAT IT ALL COMES

FROM THE ONE WHO CREATED US,

WE DO LOOK EVERYWHERE.

WE ALLOW OTHER PEOPLE TO

INFLUENCE US.

WE MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE

UNWISE, SOMETIMES EVEN

COSTLY.

AND THROUGH IT ALL, THROUGH

IT ALL GOD WAITS.

THE BIBLE SAYS, JESUS SAYS,

I STAND AT THE DOOR AND

KNOCK.

IF ANYONE OPENS THE DOOR, I

WILL COME IN AND HAVE

FELLOWSHIP WITH HIM, AND HE

WITH ME.

THAT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU

TODAY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW

JESUS THE WAY SUZANNE DOES,

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR

MEANING AND PURPOSE, AND IF

YOU WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND

WHO YOU ARE, CALL THE NUMBER

THAT IS ON YOUR SCREEN.

ASK THE PERSON WHO ANSWERS

TO PRAY WITH YOU, SOMEBODY

WHO HAS ALREADY PRAYED THAT

PRAYER AND DISCOVERED A

WHOLE NEW LIFE IN A PERSONAL

RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS

CHRIST.

ALL WHO COME ARE RECEIVED.

THAT'S YOU AS WELL.

PAT?

Pat: THANKS SO MUCH,

TERRY.

FOLKS, THAT'S ALL OF THE

TIME WE HAVE FOR TODAY'S

PROGRAM.

TOMORROW WE HAVE A STORY

ABOUT A NEWS ANCHOR WHO WENT

A-WOL BEFORE AIR TIME.

TODAYWE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM

PHILLIPIANS: "MY GOD WILL

MEET ALL YOUR NEEDS

ACCORDING TO HIS RICHES AND

GLORY IN CHRIST JESUS."

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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