Businessman and author Mark Weimer shares his desire to unite Christians into online praying communities. Plus, Eric finds Jesus to be the true savior after his journey through false religions.
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THERE IS ONE GOD, BUT HE
HAS MANY NAMES.
Lee: LOOKING FOR
ANSWERS.
I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT
PEACE.
Lee: SEARCHING FOR
TRUTH.
LET ME BELIEVE WHAT I
WANT TO BELIEVE, AND YOU
BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU WANT TO
BELIEVE.
Lee: ONE HINDU'S QUEST
FOR GOD ON TODAY'S "700
CLUB."
HE IS NOT THE WAY, BUT HE
IS THE ONLY WAY TO THE
FATHER.
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[APPLAUSE]
Pat: WELL, WELCOME TO
"THE 700 CLUB."
IF YOU DON'T GET YOUR TAXES
IN ON TIME, THE I.R.S. COMES
AFTER YOU, THEY FINE YOU,
AND YOU'VE GOT PENALTIES
YOU'VE GOT TO PAY.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THEM?
THEY DON'T SEEM TO WANT TO
ANSWER THEIR QUESTIONS.
AND WERE THEY TARGETING TEA
PARTY GROUPS?
, AND WHAT'S THE STORY?
WELL, AFTER ALL OF THESE
MONTHS, WE STILL DON'T KNOW
BECAUSE THEY ARE
STONEWALLING.
Terry: BUT THERE IS ONE
THING WE HAVE LEARNED: THE
SCANDAL WENT ALL OF THE WAY
TO I.R.S. HEADQUARTERS IN
WASHINGTON.
JENNIFER WISHON HAS THE
STORY.
Reporter: IN THE
BEGINNING, THE WHITE HOUSE
INSISTED THE I.R.S. SCANDAL
WAS CONFINED TO A ROGUE
OPERATION IN THE AGENCY'S
CINCINNATI OFFICE, BUT NOW
IT IS CLEAR THE SCANDAL WAS
ROOTED IN THE NATION'S
CAPITAL.
WE ARE FOLLOWING THE
FACTS.
THEY UNDENIABLY NOW LEAD TO
WASHINGTON.
Reporter: DURING A
RECENT HEARING, THE HOUSE
WATCHDOG COMMITTEE UNCOVERED
A CONNECTION WEAN THE TAX
EXEMPT STATUS FOR TEA PARTY
GROUPS, AND THE COUNCIL,
WHICH WAS ONE OF TWO I.R.S.
EMPLOYEES A APPOINTED BY
THE PRESIDENT.
CARL ROWE, WHO RETIRED, SAYS
HE WAS RECOMMENDED TO SEND
HIS APPLICATIONS FOR THE TEA
PARTY GROUPS TO THE OFFICE
OF THE COUNCIL.
WE KNOW WHEN YOU PUT THIS
MUCH DISCRETIONARY POWER IN
THE HANDS OF A FEW, IT MAY
BE ABUSED.
Reporter: SOON AFTER IT
BROKE, PRESIDENT OBAMA
APPOINTED PRESIDENT
SECRETARY JACK LOU TO
INVESTIGATE.
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF
ANY POLITICAL DECISION
DECISION-MAKER INVOLVED IN
ANY OF THOSE DECISIONS.
Reporter: BUT WHEN
PRESSED BY THE FOX NEWS ON
SUNDAY, HE WOULDN'T ASK
ANYBODY WAS INVOLVED IN
TARGETING TEA PARTY GROUPS
QUESTIONS.
HE TELLS CBN NEWS POLITICAL
TARGETING BY THE I.R.S. IS
NOTHING NEW, AND SAYS THE
AGENCY HAS BECOME LITTLE
MORE THAN A POLITICAL ARM OF
THE PARTY IN CHARGE OF THE
WHITE HOUSE.
THESE ARE AMERICAN
CITIZENS BEING TARGETED.
THEY ARE NOT PHONY PEOPLE.
THIS IS NOT AN AFTER
ASTROTURF TYPE OF SCANDAL.
IT IS A SCANDAL THAT HAS
ACTUALLY ROOTS AND SHOWS THE
INHERENT PROBLEMS AT THE
I.R.S.
Reporter: AND THE
INVESTIGATION OF THIS
SCANDAL IS FAR FROM OVER.
JENNIFER WISHON, CBN NEWS,
WASHINGTON.
Pat: WELL, JAY SECULO
IS HEAD OF THE AMERICAN
CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE,
AND HE IS WITH US FROM OUR
STUDIOS IN NASHVILLE.
JAY, WHO ARE YOU SUING?
YOU'RE SUING THE I.R.S. ON
BEHALF OF WHOM?
41 DIFFERENT GROUPS,
PAT.
THEY INCLUDE TEA PARTY
GROUPS.
AND THEY INCLUDE JUST SOME
CONSERVATIVE ORGANIZATIONS
AND AN EDUCATIONAL GROUP
CAUGHT UP IN THE DRAGNET,
AND A PRO-LIFE
ORGANIZATION.
WHAT STARTED AS THE TEA
PARTY, WHEN THEY DEVELOPED
WHAT IS CALL THE BOLO LIST,
THE BE ON THE LOOKOUT LIST,
YOU WERE PUT IN THIS
DRAGNET.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE 41
PLAINTIFFS.
THE GOVERNMENT OFFERED A
QUICK RESOLUTION TO SOME OF
OUR CASES.
THEY SAID IF OUR CLIENTS
WOULD FORGO 9% OF THEIR
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF
FREE SPEECH, IN OTHER WORDS,
YOU'RE ALLOWED TO ENGAGE AND
49% OF POLITICAL ACTIVITY,
AND IF YOU GO TO 40%, WE'LL
GIVE YOU AN EXPEDITED
REVIEW.
LET ME SHOW YOU THE RESPONSE
THAT YOUR AMERICAN CENTER
FOR LAW AND JUSTICE GAVE THE
I.R.S. IN RESPONSE TO THEIR
QUICK REVIEW.
THIS WAS THE LETTER AND
DOCUMENTS WE SENT TO THE
I.R.S., SAYING WE'RE NOT
GOING TO TAKE YOUR EXPEDITED
REVIEW.
THESE APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN
PENDING FOR THREE YEARS, AND
WE WANT THEM APPROVED.
AND WE NOW KNOW THAT
EVERYTHING IS POINTING TO
THE OFFICE OF CHIEF COUNCIL,
WHICH IS AN OFFICE I WORKED
IN -- IT WAS MY FIRST JOB
OUT OF LAW SCHOOL, I WAS A
TRIAL LAWYER FOR THE CHIEF
COUNCIL'S OFFICE INVOLVED.
THAT'S A POLITICAL APPOINTEE
OF THE PRESIDENT.
THIS IS CERTAINLY MOVING UP
THE LADDER RAPIDLY,
ACTUALLY.
Pat: THIS LOIS LEARNER,
SHE WAS WITH THE FEDERAL
ELECTION COMMISSION, AND SHE
WENT AFTER MY CAMPAIGN
MERCILESSLY.
I THINK SHE HATES
EVANGELICALS -- I DON'T KNOW
PERSONALLY, BUT IS SHE GOING
TO GET AWAY WITH
STONEWALLING THE WAY SHE HAS
DONE?
IN YOUR PARTICULAR CASE,
THEY WERE ASKING OLIVER
NORTH ABOUT WHAT TYPE OF
PRAYERS HE ENGAGED IN WHEN
HE WAS MEETING WITH YOU.
THAT PRAYER LANGUAGE STILL
COMES UP IN QUESTIONS THAT
ARE ASKED OF PRO-LIFE
ORGANIZATIONS.
IN ONE OF THE LETTERS THAT
WENT TO ONE OF THE PRO-LIFE
GROUPS WE'RE REPRESENTING,
THEY WERE TOLD THAT THE
INFORMATION THEY ARE RELYING
ON, THAT LIFE IS SACRED, WAS
NOT SUPPORTED BY SCIENCE.
AND THEY WANTED INFORMATION
ABOUT PRAYER VIGILS AND
THINGS LIKE THIS.
SHE TOOK THE FIFTH
AMENDMENT.
SHE TOOK IN A RATHER BIZARRE
WAY -- I'M NOT SURE IF SHE
WAIVED IT OR NOT.
NOW THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE IN
WASHINGTON POINTING MUCH
HIGHER UP THE LADDER, INTO
THE OFFICE OF THE CHIEF
COUNCIL, THE PRESIDENT'S AP
APPOINTEE, YOU GIVE LOIS
LEARNER A IMMUNITY AND LET
HER TALK.
I THINK YOU'LL FIND THAT IT
WAS BEING DIRECTED BY THE
OFFICE OF THE CHIEF
COUNCIL.
WE KNOW THEY TOOK CONTROL OF
THE CHIEF CASES.
EVERYBODY THOUGHT CARTER
HALL WAS THE MAIN CUL
CULPRIT, BUT HE MADE CLEAR
IN HIS TESTIMONY THAT HE WAS
FOLLOWING ORDERS FROM THE
CHIEF COUNCIL'S OFFICE.
Pat: ARE YOU SAYING IT
BYPASSED LOIS LEARNER AND
WENT RIGHT TO THE WHITE
HOUSE?
OH, I THINK SHE HAS HAD A
LOT TO DO WITH IT.
REMEMBER WHEN SHE WAS IN
CHARGE OF THE F.C.C., THEY
WERE TELLING A CANDIDATE IF
YOU DIDN'T RUN FOR OFFICE
AGAIN, THEY WOULDN'T PUT A
FINE AGAINST HIS CAMPAIGN.
SO THEY'VE HAD THESE KIND OF
STATEMENTS BEFORE, AND FROM
HERSELF.
BUT WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT
THE I.R.S. CHIEF COUNCIL
OFFICE WAS ASKED TO TAKE
THESE CASES OVER, OR TOOK
THESE CASES OVER.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO ASK THE
I.R.S. CHIEF COUNCIL,
WILLIAM WILKEN, WHAT WAS
YOUR INVOLVEMENT, WHEN DID
YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS?
WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP?
AND JACK LEW, THE SECRETARY,
WAS ASKED TO MAKE AN
INVESTIGATION, AND HOLD
THOSE RESPONSIBLE LIABLE FOR
THEIR ACTIONS.
HE HAS NOT ASK AND WILL NOT
ASK THE I.R.S. COUNCIL WHAT
HE KNEW AND WHEN HE KNEW
IT.
AND THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS.
AND THAT IS WHAT WE GOT ON
THE SUNDAY TALK SHOWS WITH
CHRIS WALLACE.
AND PEOPLE SHOULD SAY NOW
YOU NEED TO GO BEFORE
CONGRESS AND TESTIFY UNDER
OATH.
Pat: CAN YOU GET THIS
CHIEF COUNCIL ON THE STAND,
UNDER OATH?
WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE THE
AUTHORITY UNDER THE FEDERAL
RULES OF CIVIL PROCEDURE TO
CERTAINLY DEPOSE THE HEAD OF
THE OFFICE OF CHIEF COUNCIL
NOW THAT WE KNOW THE CHIEF
COUNCIL'S OFFICE WAS
INVOLVED.
SO, YES, WE WILL DEPOSE
HIM.
WE WILL DEPOSE HIS
DEPUTIES.
IT IS AN OFFICE OF 1600
LAWYERS, BUT WHAT IS A
LITTLE UNTRUE ABOUT SOME OF
THAT STATEMENT, THERE IS NOT
JUST 1600 LAWYERS, BUT THERE
ARE LEVELS OF REVIEW.
BUT WE KNOW SOMEWHAT HIGH UP
TOOK THESE CASES OVER, AND
TOOK THEM OUT OF CAREER
LAWYERS WHO HAD BEEN WITH
THE I.R.S. FOR 48 YEARS, OR
AT THAT POINT, 46 YEARS.
WHAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT,
AND WE WILL ASK THE CHIEF
COUNCIL THIS UNDER OATH,
WHAT WAS HIS INVOLVEMENT,
AND WHEN HE WAS AWARE OF IT,
AND WHY HE ALLOWED IT TO GO
ON IF HE WAS AWARE.
BECAUSE THE SECOND ROUND OF
QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF
THE CHIEF COUNCIL'S OFFICE
WAS THE MOST TROUBLING AND
DAMAGING.
THERE WAS A MEETING WITH THE
I.R.S., INCLUDING CHIEF
COUNCIL, AND TWO DAYS LATER,
HE WAS AT THE WHITE HOUSE,
AND A FEW DAYS AFTER THAT,
WE GET THE NEW LETTERS.
SO MAYBE IT IS JUST
COINCIDENTAL TIMING.
BUT IN WASHINGTON, WE DON'T
INTEND TO BELIEVE IN
COINCIDENCE TOO MUCH.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THIS ALL
THE WAY UP IN DISCOVERY
AGAINST THE I.R.S., AND
WE'LL SEE WHERE IT GOES.
THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF
EXPLAINING TO DO AT THIS
POINT.
AND I THINK CONGRESS NEEDS
TO PUSH AGGRESSIVELY TO GET
MORE TESTIMONY FROM NOT JUST
THE AGENTS, BUT FROM THE
HIGHER-UPS AT THE I.R.S.
Pat: WHO CAME UP WITH
THE CINCINNATI GAMBET?
WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?
I THINK LOIS LEARNER AND
HER TEAM, IN CONJUNCTION
WITH THE WHITE HOUSE,
THOUGHT THIS IS THE WAY THEY
COULD GET AWAY WITH THE
INSPECTOR GENERAL'S REPORT,
BY BLAMING IT ON TWO
LOW-LEVEL AGENTS.
BUT I KNEW RIGHT AWAY THEY
DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
DO WHAT THEY DID WITH THESE
PARTICULAR CASES, BY LUMPING
THEM TOGETHER.
SO I THINK LOIS LEARNER, IN
CONJUNCTION WITH THE WHITE
HOUSE DEPUTY CHIEF
CHIEF-OF-STAFF, AND WE KNOW
THERE WERE CONVERSATIONS
BETWEEN THE WHITE HOUSE
CHIEF-OF-STAFF AND ANOTHER.
WHY DID JAY CARNEY SAY IT
WAS TWO LOW-LEVEL
BUREAUCRATS.
WHICH JACK LEW REPEATED THIS
WEEKEND, WHICH WE KNOW WAS
NOT TRUE.
LOIS LEARNER WAS A
HIGH-LEVEL GOVERNMENT
EMPLOYEE.
HOLLY CRAFT WAS A HIGH LEVEL
EMPLOYEE.
THE OFFICE OF CHIEF COUNCIL,
THESE AREN'T LOW-LEVEL
BUREAUCRATS.
THESE ARE SENIOR LAWYERS,
AND ONE WAS THE COUNSEL TO
JEREMIAH WRIGHT FOR WHAT
THEY WERE DEEMING
INAPPROPRIATE POLITICAL
ACTIVITY.
THE LAWYER FOR JEREMIAH
WRIGHT IS WILLIAM WILKENS,
AND LOIS LEARNER WAS
PARTNERS WITH THE WHITE
HOUSE COUNCIL.
Pat: WHO IS GOING TO
HOLD THESE PEOPLE
ACCOUNTABLE.
SO YOU FIND ALL OF THIS, SO
WHAT?
THREE THINGS: ONE, THE
CONGRESS IS INVESTIGATING.
AND THE OVERSIGHT THERE IS
CRITICAL.
NUMBER TWO, THIS IS A
FEDERAL LAWSUIT.
WE'RE NOT JUST ASKING FOR AN
IINJUNCTION FOR THINGS TO
STOP, AND THE EXEMPTIONS TO
BE GRANTED, BUT WE'RE ASKING
FOR DAMAGES.
AND THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T GET
AWAY WITH JUST VIOLATING
CIVIL RIGHTS.
IT WAS THE ATTORNEY-GENERAL
OF THE UNITED STATES, ERIC
HOLDER, WHO SAID THIS MAY BE
CRIMINAL ACTIVITY INVOLVED
AT THE I.R.S.
WE HAVE NOT HAD ONE CLIENT
CONTACTED BY THE I.R.S. AS
OF THE TIME I'M ON THE
BROADCAST WITH YOU TODAY.
NOT ONE HAS BEEN CONTACTED
BY THE F.B.I. INVESTIGATING
THIS.
SO THE I.R.S. IS IN A
FREEFALL.
AND THEY'RE NOT RESPONDING
TO ANYTHING, THE INTERNAL
PROCESS RIGHT NOW.
THESE GROUPS SHOULD BE
GRANTED EXEMPTION
IMMEDIATELY.
BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE
DAMAGES TO PAY.
AND THIS IS SERIOUS FEDERAL
INVESTIGATION.
THERE IS A LOT GOING ON.
THE GOVERNMENT ASKED FOR AN
EXTENSION OF TIME IN WHICH
TO RESPOND BECAUSE THEY'RE
TRYING TO SORT OUT WHO IS
GOING TO REPRESENT WHO
BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY
DEFENDANTS IN THIS CASE.
Pat: WE'RE GOING TO
PRAY FOR YOU.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING
TO LET YOU GO UNSCATHED.
IF YOU HURT THEM AND THEY
DON'T RESPOND -- I REMEMBER
THAT GREAT STATEMENT MY
FATHER USED TO SAY, IOT
QUOTING FROM THE OLD DAYS OF
ROME, "YOU DON'T STRIKE THE
KING UNLESS YOU KILL HIM."
YOU'VE STRUCK THE KING.
BUT IN THIS CASE, THE
KINGS ADMITTED LIABILITY.
THEY SAID WHAT WE DID WAS
WRONG.
THAT WILL REALLY HELP THE
CASE.
Pat: POWER TO YOU,
BUDDY.
JAY SECULO, LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN, A DEAR FRIEND,
AND GENERAL COUNSEL FOR THE
AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND
JUSTICE.
ISN'T IT SHOCKING?
Terry: IT IS SHOCKING,
THE DEPTHS OF THIS ONE.
Pat: PRAY FOR JAY ON
THIS.
THE GOVERNMENT HAS MADE
ANOTHER BREAKTHROUGH IN THE
FIGHT AGAINST CHILD
MOLESTATION AND
PROSTITUTION, SEX
TRAFFICKING.
THIS IS A GOOD STORY, NOT A
BAD STORY.
YOU HEARD ABOUT IT
YESTERDAY, AND NOW THIS IS
AN EXPANDED EDITION TO GIVE
YOU MORE
DETAILS.
Lee: THE F.B.I. SAYS
AUTHORITIES RESCUED DOZENS
OF YOUNG PEOPLE, ALMOST ALL
OF THEM GIRLS FROM 13 TO 17
YEARS OLD.
MANY OF THEM HAD RUN AWAY
FROM HOME AND QUICKLY FALLEN
INTO PROSTITUTION.
DALE HERD HAS THE STORY.
IN HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA,
THIS 15-YEAR-OLD PROSTITUTE
PICKED UP BY POLICE SAID SHE
WAS SCARED AND ASKED IF SHE
COULD CALL HER MOTHER.
THIS 13-YEAR-OLD SAYS SHE
RAN AWAY FROM A GROUP HOME.
PATRICK MIMS, WHO IS WITH AN
ADVOCACY GROUP THAT HELPS
GIRLS WHO BECOME
PROSTITUTES.
FOSTER HOMES AND GROUP
HOMES, AND THEY'RE LEAVING
THESE PLACES AS FAST AS
THEY'RE SENT TO THEM.
Reporter: IN A MASSIVE
THREE-DAY F.B.I. SWEEP OVER
THE WEEKEND, FEDERAL
AUTHORITIES RESCUED 105
CHILDREN FROM FORCED
PROSTITUTION ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
ONE OF THE MOST PREVALENT
AND VIOLENT CRIMES IN THIS
COUNTRY.
Lee: AND THE F.B.I.
ARRESTED 150 PIMPS IN 76
AMERICAN CITIES.
THE LARGEST NUMBERS OF
CHILDREN WERE RESCUED IN
DETROIT, MILWAUKEE, DENVER,
NEW ORLEANS, AND SAN
FRANCISCO.
TRAFFICKERS ARE PREYING
ON THOSE WITH LOW
SELF-ESTEEM AND MINIMAL
SOCIAL SUPPORT.
Reporter: FEDERAL
OFFICIALS SAID MANY OF THE
CHILDREN WERE SOLD INTO
PROSTITUTION ONLINE, AT
TRUCK STOPS OR ON CITY
STREETS.
THEY'RE OFTEN HOMELESS OR IN
FOSTER CARE.
WHEN THESE CHILDREN ARE
RECOVERED FROM THE CONTROL
OF THEIR PIMPS, TYPICALLY
THEIR ONLY POSSESSIONS ARE
THE CLOTHES THEY ARE
WEARING.
Lee: THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT ESTIMATES NEARLY
450,000 CHILDREN RUN AWAY
FROM HOME EACH YEAR, AND
ONE-THIRD OF TEENS LIVING ON
THE STREET WILL BE LURED
TOWARDS PROSTITUTION WITHIN
48 HOURS OF LEAVING HOME.
AND SOME ARE RECRUITED RIGHT
OUT OF FOSTER CARE
FACILITIES.
DALE HERD, CBN NEWS.
Lee: A BILLIONAIRE
SAUDI PRINCE SAYS THE
AMERICAN SHALE OIL
REVOLUTION COULD BECOME A
THREAT TO THE SAUDI
AUTHORITY.
PRINCE AL-WALID SAYS THE
U.S. OIL BOMB WILL TAKE
BUSINESS AWAY FROM SAUDI
ARABIA AND OTHER OPEC
COUNTRIES.
THE PRINCE GAVE HIS WARNING
IN A LETTER TO THE SAUDI OIL
MINISTRY.
BUT HE IS ASSURED THAT THE
SAUDI ECONOMY DEPENDS
HEAVILY ON ITS OIL SALES, SO
DO OTHER EASTERN COUNTRIES.
ALL OF THEM COULD BE HURT BY
THE SHALE FROM THE U.S. AND
OTHER COUNTRIES AS WELL.
PAT, WHAT ABOUT THAT?
Pat: I UNDERSTAND ABOUT
92% OF ALL OF THEIR INCOME
OF THE SAUDIS COMES FROM
OIL.
SOME OF THOSE BIG FIELDS ARE
STARTING TO DIMINISH,
DEPLETE.
THAT GREAT GOWAR FIELD THAT
WE'VE HEARD ABOUT IS
STARTING TO DEPLETE.
I THINK THE SHALE OIL IS
JUST SHOCKING THEM BECAUSE
NO LONGER WILL OPEC BE
RULING THE ROOST IN TERMS OF
OIL PRICING.
THIS MEANS THAT THE SAUDIS
CAN'T BE THE BIG PLAYER ANY
LONGER.
SO WHAT THE RUSSIANS, THE
UNITED STATES AND OTHERS,
THEY'RE LOSING THEIR
DOMINANCE.
BUT PRINCE al-AWID IS A
BIG VISITOR IN CITICORP AND
OTHERS.
HIS NET WORTH IS NORTH OF
$20 BILLION.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW
MUCH IT IS NOW BECAUSE
THINGS GO UP AND DOWN.
BUT HE HAS BEEN A VERY, VERY
SHREWD INVESTOR.
HE LIVES OUT IN A TENT IN
THE DESERT AND PLAYS LIKE AN
OLD ARAB, BUT HE IS A VERY
SOPHISTICATED INVESTOR.
SO WHAT HE SAYS, YOU OUGHT
TO TAKE SERIOUSLY.
TERRY?
Terry: UP NEXT, A
FORMER FELON FACES THE HARSH
REALITY OF LIFE ON THE
OUTSIDE.
I HAVE A CHILD, I HAVE A
WIFE, YOU'VE GOT TO PROVIDE
FOR THE HOUSEHOLD.
HOW CAN YOU HANDLE THESE
RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN PEOPLE
ARE AFRAID OF YOU BECAUSE
YOU'RE A CONVICTED FELON.
THEY'VE BEEN TOLD NOT TO
HIRE CONVICTED FELONS.
Terry: SEE HOW THIS
EX-ITEMS CONVICTED FELON
GETS A FRESH START.
Pat: WE'VE BEEN
TALKING, ON THIS PROGRAM,
ABOUT A SHOCKING ABUSE OF
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAME
INTO PLAY ABOUT 20 YEARS
AGO, WHEN THERE WAS A BIG
ANTI-CRIME THRUST.
AND LET'S GET TOUGH ON
CRIMINALS, AND LET'S LOCK
THEM UP.
AND PEOPLE RAN FOR OFFICE ON
THAT PLATFORM.
LET'S LOCK UP THE CRIMINALS
AND DO AWAY WITH PAROLE.
WELL, WE JAMMED OUR
PRISONERS, AND WE'VE
CRIMINALIZED THE POSSESSION
OF AN OUNCE OR SO OF
MARIJUANA, AND NOW WE HAVE
MORE PEOPLE INCARCERATED IN
AMERICA THAN THEY DO IN
CHINA OR THE SOVIET UNION.
OUR PER CAPITA NUMBER OF
INCARCERATIONS IS SIMPLY
SHOCKING, AND THE COST IS
ENORMOUS.
SO YOU LOCK SOMEBODY UP FOR
A COUPLE OF YEARS BECAUSE HE
HAD AN OUNCE OF GRASS IN HIS
POSSESSION, NOW WHAT DOES HE
DO?
HE IS MARKED AS A CRIMINAL.
HE IS MARKED AS A FELON.
SO WHAT HAPPENS?
EVERY YEAR, MORE THAN
700,000 PEOPLE ARE RELEASED
FROM VARIOUS STATE AND
FEDERAL PRISONS.
WELL, IS THAT THE END OF THE
LINE?
OH, NO.
THAT ISN'T THE END.
THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING OF
THEIR TROUBLES.
LIFE ON THE OUTSIDE IF TOUGH
FOR MANY OF THESE PEOPLE
BECAUSE EMPLOYERS ARE
RELUCTANT TO HIRE EX-CONS.
BUT CHARLENE ISRAEL FOUND
ONE MAN WHO IS HELPING SOME
OF THEM GET A NEW START IN
LIFE.
Reporter: SEAN COLLINS
HARRIS ONCE DREAMED OF
TRAVELLING THE WORLD AS A
MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER.
IN COLLEGE, THAT ALL CHANGED
WHEN HE GOT CAUGHT UP WITH
THE WRONG CROWD AND STARTED
SELLING DRUGS.
I WANTED TO MAKE MONEY,
AND I WANTED TO MAKE QUICK
MONEY.
Reporter: THAT DESIRE
EVENTUALLY LANDED HIM BEHIND
BARS.
I WA I WAS SENTENCED TO
FIVE YEARS IN THE STATE
PENITENTIARY WITH POSSESSION
OF FIVE POUNDS OF MARIJUANA
WITH A FIREARM.
YOU'VE GOT TO PUT FOOD ON
THE TABLE AND PROVIDE FOR
THE HOUSEHOLD.
HOW ARE YOU GOING TO HANDLE
THESE RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN
PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF YOU
BECAUSE YOU'RE A CONVICTED
FELON.
Reporter: DR. TOX ITO
SEES IT FAR TOO ALL.
DR. ITO NOTICED A TREND
AMONG PRISONERS RE-ENTERING
SOCIETY.
AS IT GOT CLOSE TO THEIR
RELEASE, THEY BECAME
APPREHENSIVE.
THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK
TO THE SAME OLD
NEIGHBORHOODS.
WHEN YOU GET SO MANY
DOORS CLOSED IN YOUR FACE,
WHAT IS LEFT TO DO?
WHAT CAN YOU DO?
I HAVE A CHILD, AND IV A
WIFE.
SO IT IS EITHER ONE OF TWO
THINGS: GO BACK TO WHAT I
KNEW HOW TO DO, BECAUSE,
TRUST ME, THAT SAME OLD GANG
WAS THERE.
Reporter: FOR THAT
REASON, DR. ITO CREATED
"LEADERSHIP CALL," AN
ORGANIZATION HELPING TO
REMOVE BARRIERS FOR
EX-OFFENDERS ACROSS
VIRGINIA.
MOST OF THESE MEN HAVE
BEEN GIVEN A BAD RAP.
THEY ALREADY PAID THEIR DUES
WHEN THEY WENT TO PRISON.
Reporter: IT HELPS
PEOPLE TEAR DOWN NEGATIVE
MIND SERTS.
> MINDSETS.
WE WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT
GOD HAS DEPOSITED INTO EACH
INDIVIDUAL AND HELP THEM TAP
INTO THAT.
Reporter: DR. ITO USES
THIS EXPERIENCE AS A
CONSULTANT AND DEFENSE
CONTRACTOR TO GET THE BALL
ROLLING.
I'M A FREE MARKET
CAPITALIST.
IF THERE IS ONE THING THAT
WORKS WELL, IT IS A FREE
MARKET.
WE HAVE ABOUT AN 85% RATE OF
SUCCESS.
Reporter: SEAN BECAME A
CHRISTIAN WHILE IN PRISON,
AND THEN WENT ON TO BE ONE
OF THE PROGRAM'S SUCCESS
STORIES.
I BORROWED A LOAN FROM MY
GRANDFATHER, AND
BORROWED A
PRESSURE WASHER, AND NOW I
OWN THREE PRESSURE WASHERS,
AND NOW I OWN SEVEN LAWN
MOWERS AND TRAILERS AND
EQUIPMENT AND RUN MY OWN
LAWN CARE BUSINESS.
I HAVE SUBCONTRACTORS UNDER
ME THAT DO ROOFING AND ALL
TYPES OF HANDYMAN SERVICES.
Reporter: 29-YEAR-OLD
GANG MEMBER MIKE TAYLOR
FACED AN EIGHT YEAR PRISON
SENTENCE FOR ROBBERY.
BEFORE GIVING HIS LIFE TO
CHRIST, HE FELT HE HAD A
DEATH WISH.
IF I HAD GOT SHOT AND
DIED RIGHT THEN, I WOULDN'T
HAVE CARED.
Reporter: NOW HE CARES
ABOUT THE PLANS FOR HIS NEW
T-SHIRT BUSINESS AND
NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION,
THANKS TO THE PROGRAM'S
BIBLICAL PRINCIPLES AND
DISCIPLESHIP.
THAT WILL HELP HIM DO GOOD
IN THE COMMUNITIES WHERE HE
ONCE DID SO MUCH BAD.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE
MONEY.
I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT
MAKING A DIFFERENCE WHEN I
LEAVE HERE.
I JUST WANT TO LEAVE A GREAT
LEGACY THAT IS GOING TO LAST
FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS.
Reporter: DR. ITO SAYS
WHEN INMATES COMPLETE THEIR
12-MONTH PARTS PAIGHTS IN
PARTICIPATION IN LEADERSHIP,
THE OUTCOME IS RENEWED
LIVES.
THE ONLY THING WE DON'T
RECYCLE IS HUMAN CAPITAL.
THINK ABOUT IT, WE'RE
CREATED IN GOD'S IMAGE, BUT
WE DUMP IT AND TRASH IT.
SO IN A WAY I'M IN THE
RECYCLING BUSINESS, BUT IT
IS AWESOME TO SEE WHEN THEY
GET IT AND RUN WITH THE
VISION.
I'M GIVING GOD THE GLORY
FOR EVERYTHING HE HAS GIVEN
ME.
I WAITING TO SEE WHAT HE IS
GOING TO DO NEXT.
Reporter: CHARLENE
ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.
Pat: THAT'S A WONDERFUL
PROGRAM.
WE CONGRATULATE THEM FOR
WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND LET'S
HOPE THEY'RE VERY
SUCCESSFUL.
Terry: COMING UP, A
DEVOUT HINDU EXPANDS HIS
SPIRITUAL SEARCH.
I WAS INVOLVED IN AF AS
ASTROLOGY, AND I WOULD READ
PEOPLE'S PALMS AND TELL THEM
WHAT THEIR LINES MEANT.
Terry: WATCH WHAT
HAPPENS THE NIGHT SOMEONE
READS HIS?
THAT'S COMING UP.
Pat: WHAT DO HINDUS
BELIEVE?
WELL, THEY BELIEVE IN A LOT
OF THINGS, SUCH AS KARMA.
BUT THEY ALSO HAVE A
PANTHEON, 300 MILLION
DEITIES.
300MILLION.
I WAS SHOCKED WHEN I HEARD
THE NUMBER, BUT THAT THE IS
IS WHAT IT IS.
THERE WAS A DEVOUT HINDU AND
HE THOUGHT ASTROLOGY, PALM
READING -- ALL WERE A WAY TO
GET CLOSER TO GOD.
AND THEN ONE NIGHT, THIS
HINDU, NAMED ERIC, HAD A
SUPER NATURAL EXPERIENCE,
NOT ONE OF THE 300 MILLION,
BUT THE ONE TRUE GOD.
WATCH THIS.
*
*
MY VIEWPOINT WAS THERE IS
ONE GOD, BUT HE HAS MANY
NAMES AND MANY FORMS.
TO ME, JESUS WAS A GOD.
BUDDHA WAS A GOD.
CHRISTIAN WACRESHCRISH
KRISHNA WAS A GOD.
Reporter: HE GREW UP
BELIEVING THERE ARE MANY
PATHS TO GOD.
BORN INTO A CONSERVATIVE
FAMILY IN INDIA, HE WAS
DEEPLY COMMITTED TO HIS
FAITH.
I WOULD OFFER THE FLOWERS
FOR THE HINDU GODS IN THE
SHRINES, AND PRAY EVERY DAY,
AND HAVE A GREAT RESPECT FOR
THE HINDU GURUS.
Reporter: WHEN ERIC WAS
A TEENAGER, HIS FAMILY MOVED
TO THE U.S.
SHE WENT TO A CHRISTIAN
SCHOOL WHERE HE LEARNED
ABOUT JESUS.
HE ALSO STARTED GOING TO
CHURCH.
I DID NOT HAVE A PROBLEM
GOING TO CHRISTIAN CHURCH
BECAUSE I BELIEVED THAT
JESUS WAS A WAY, A GOD.
I REMEMBER GOING TO THAT
CHURCH AND FEELING THE
PRESENCE OF GOD.
I REMEMBER ONE DAY THE
PASTOR CAME TO ME AND HE
ASKED ME TO PRAY THE PRAYER
OF SALVATION, AND I DID.
BUT I DID NOT UNDERSTAND
WHAT I WAS PRAYING.
BUT ONE THING THAT REALLY
STOOD OUT IN THAT CHURCH WAS
THE PEACE THAT I REALLY
FELT.
AND I WAS LOOKING FOR THAT
PEACE.
Reporter: ERIC'S
OPENNESS TO CHRISTIANITY
SOURED WHEN A CHURCH MEMBER
CONFRONTED HIM ABOUT HOLDING
ON TO HIS HINDU FAITH.
I LEFT THAT CHURCH HURT,
OFFENDED, AND ANGRY.
AND THAT ALSO MADE ME ANGRY
TOWARDS CHRISTIANS.
AND I SAID TO MYSELF, WHY
ARE THESE CHRISTIANS TRYING
TO CONVERT THE HINDUS.
LEAVE THE HINDUS ALONE.
SO LET ME BELIEVE WHAT I
WANT TO BELIEVE, AND YOU
BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU WANT TO
BELIEVE.
Reporter: SO ERIC SET
OUT TO PROVE THAT ALL
RELIGIONS ARE BASICALLY THE
SAME.
I CAME TO THE POINT WHERE
I THOUGHT I HAD THE
ANSWERS.
SO MY ENCOUNTER WITH
CHRISTIANS WAS I WOULD GET
INTO DEBATE, TRYING TO
CONVINCE THEM THAT, NO,
HINDU IS THE RIGHT WAY.
YES, I DO BELIEVE IN JESUS
CHRIST, BUT TO ME HE IS ONE
OF THE GODS.
HE IS NOT THE ONLY GOD.
Reporter: ERIC EXPANDED
HIS SEARCH FOR ANSWERS
THROUGH OTHER PRACTICES.
I WAS INVOLVED IN
ASTROLOGY, PALMISTRY, NUM
NUMEROLOGY.
I DID NOT SEE THERE ANYTHING
WRONG WITH THAT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY VERY, VERY
EXCITING AND FUN.
I WOULD READ PEOPLE'S PALMS,
AND I WOULD TELL THEM WHAT
THEIR LINES MEANT.
Reporter: THEN ONE
NIGHT ERIC HAD AN EXPERIENCE
HE WOULD NEVER FORGET.
I HEARD THE VOICE OF
GOD.
TURN ON THE TELEVISION.
AND AS I DID, THERE WAS PAT
ON "THE 700 CLUB."
AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE
SINFULNESS OF OCCULT.
FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME, THE
LIGHT CAME ON.
MY EYES SUPER NATURALLY
OPENED.
I GOT A REVELATION FROM GOD
THAT EVENING, HEARING HIM,
YES, ASTROLOGY, PALMISTRY,
NUMEROLOGY, THEY ARE SINFUL
AND DEMONIC.
I GOT ON MY KNEE AND I BEGAN
TO PRAY THIS PRAYER OF
REPENTANCE, AND I SAID,
JESUS, FORGIVE ME FOR DOING
ALL OF THESE THINGS.
I'M SINCERELY SORRY.
I SINCERELY PRAYED THAT
PRAYER OF SALVATION AND
REPENTANCE, AND I MEANT IT
FROM MY HEART.
Reporter: THEN ERIC
FINALLY EXPERIENCED WHAT HE
HAD BEEN LOOKING FOR ALL OF
HIS LIFE.
I FELT THE PRESENCE OF
GOD, THE GLORY OF GOD, OF
JESUS CHRIST, ACTUALLY, COME
ALL OVER ME AND FILL ME AND
SUBMERGE ME.
I FELT LIKE THAT STRONGHOLD
OF OCCULT WAS BROKEN, AND
GOD DELIVERED ME INSTANTLY.
I TOOK ALL OF MY BOOKS THAT
HAD TO DO WITH THE OCCULT
AND THREW THEM IN THE
DUMPSTER.
THE IMAGES OF THE HINDU GODS
THAT WERE ON MY WALL, I
SUDDENLY HAD NO DESIRE TO
PRAY TO THEM.
Reporter: ERIC WENT TO
ANOTHER CHURCH.
THIS TIME WAS DIFFERENT.
THEY ALLOWED GOD TO DO
THE WORK IN MEMEN ME.
AND THEY SHOWED ME LOVE.
AND THAT LOVE THAT I FELT IN
THE CHURCH, DREW ME O G TO
GO BACK THERE AGAIN WEEK
AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK, THE
LOVE AND THE POWER OF GOD.
THE MORE I HEARD THE WORD OF
GOD, SOMETHING BEGAN TO
CHANGE IN MY SUPER
NATURALLY.
GOD BEGAN TO REVEAL TO ME
THAT JESUS IS NOT A GOD; HE
IS THE GOD.
HE IS NOT A WAY; HE IS THE
ONLY WAY TO THE FATHER.
Reporter: ERIC'S QUEST
WAS FINALLY OVER.
EVEN WHEN I WAS DOING
DEEP YOGA, EVEN IN THOSE
STATES, I NEVER EXPERIENCED
GOD, LIKE I DID WITH JESUS.
ONE THING ABOUT OUR LORD
JESUS CHRIST, I HAVE THAT
REAL PEACE AND CONTENTMENT.
I ALWAYS HAVE THE PRESENCE
OF GOD BECAUSE THE BIBLE
SAYS THAT GOD LOVES ME.
AND AS A HINDU, I NEVER HAD
ALL OF THOSE THINGS.
Reporter: ERIC WENT ON
TO BECOME AN ORDAINED
MINISTER.
HE ENCOURAGES OTHERS WHO ARE
LOOKING FOR ANSWERS TO LOOK
TO JESUS.
IF YOU WANT THE TRUE
SUPER NATURAL POWER OF GOD,
AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE THE
TRUE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, COME
TO JESUS, AND PUT YOUR TRUST
TO HIM, AND JESUS CHRIST
WILL REVEAL TO YOU WHAT HE
HAS REVEALED TO ME.
BECAUSE GOD IS NO RESPECTER
OF PEOPLE.
THE ANSWER IS NOT IN THE
HINDU GURUS.
IT IS NOT IN THE STARS.
IT IS NOT IN THE PSYCHICS.
THE ANSWER IS IN JESUS.
Pat: WHAT A STORY.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, GOD
ALMIGHTY, THE CREATOR OF
HEAVEN AND EARTH, MADE THIS
WORLD, AND HE FORMED PEOPLE,
MAN, WOMEN, TO LIVE ON THIS
EARTH.
AND HE GAVE US A HUNGER FOR
HIMSELF.
BUT THE BIBLE TELLS US IN
ADDITION TO THE CREATOR GOD,
THERE WAS ALSO AN ENEMY,
WHO'S CALLED SATAN,
DEABOLOS, OR WHATEVER NAME
HE WANTS TO BE GIVEN, AND HE
WAS THERE TO DESTROY PEOPLE
MADE IN THE IMAGE OF GOD.
AND HE IS VERY DECEPTIVE,
AND VERY POWERFUL, AND THERE
ARE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO
ARE DECEIVED BY HIM, AND WHO
WORSHIP HIM, AND WHO WORSHIP
MANIFESTATIONS OF CREATURES
THAT HE HAS PLACED ON
EARTH.
BUT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD.
JESUS SAID THERE IS ONLY ONE
WAY.
THE BIBLE SAYS -- WELL, HE
SAID, I AM THE WAY, THE
TRUTH, AND THE LIGHT.
NOBODY COMES TO THE FATHER
BUT BY ME.
HE IS THE GREAT GOD.
HE IS THE CREATOR.
AND THESE OTHER THINGS COME
FROM DEMONIC SPIRITS.
THEY COME FROM SATAN, THE
ENEMY.
THE ONE WHO WANTS TO KILL
AND TO DESTROY AND TO
DECEIVE.
THAT'S WHO YOUR ENEMY IS.
AND THE ONE WHO LOVES YOU IS
THE ONE WHO CREATED YOU.
GOD ALMIGHTY.
HE IS THE SO WONDERFUL.
HE IS SO POWERFUL.
AND HE SAYS TO YOU TODAY,
CHILD, I LOVE YOU.
CHILD, I LOVE YOU.
I WILL FORGIVE YOU.
DON'T BE DECEIVED.
DON'T BE DESTROYED.
DON'T LET SATAN TWIST YOUR
MIND AND TAKE YOU FROM ME.
BUT COME BACK TO ME BECAUSE
I LOVE YOU.
I'M GOING TO PRAY RIGHT NOW,
AND IF YOU WANT TO, COME TO
THE FATHER.
I WANT YOU TO PRAY THIS
PRAYER WITH ME, WHEREVER YOU
ARE.
JUST BOW YOUR HEAD RIGHT NOW
AND PRAY.
JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT, PRAY
WITH ME RIGHT NOW.
LORD JESUS, I COME TO YOU.
I'VE SOUGHT MANY WAYS.
I'VE DABBLED IN THE OCCULT.
I'VE SINNED, GOD.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME.
LET ME KNOW YOU.
I OPEN MY HEART TO YOU, AND
I SAY COME IN.
LIVE IN ME.
LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME.
AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON, I
WILL SERVE YOU AND I WILL
GIVE MY LIFE TO YOU.
THANK YOU, LORD.
THANK YOU, JESUS.
THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR
HEARING MY PRAYER.
THANK YOU.
AMEN.
AND AMEN.
IF YOU PRAYED THAT PRAYER
JUST NOW, I WANT YOU TO GIVE
US A CALL.
TELL SOMEBODY WHAT YOU'VE
DONE.
BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING,
BEGIN TO LIVE FOR THE LORD.
LIVE YOUR LIFE FOR HIM.
HE IS GOD ALMIGHTY.
I'LL BE GLAD TO SEND YOU
LITERATURE AND THINGS THAT
WILL HELP YOU.
BUT CALL IN RIGHT NOW, AND
SAY I JUST PRAYED WITH PAT.
I HAVE COME TO THE FATHER
THROUGH JESUS CHRIST, HIS
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"THE 700 CLUB."
Terry: STILL AHEAD,
WE'LL READ YOUR MAIL, YOUR
E-MAIL, THAT IS.
MARY WANTS TO KNOW, "IS IT A
SIN TO HAVE INTERCOURSE ON
SUNDAY IF YOU'RE MARRIED?
I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS TO
KEEP SUNDAY HOLY."
PAT IS GOING TO ANSWER
MARY'S QUESTION AND MORE.
THAT'S ALL COMING UP.
Reporter: WELCOME BACK
TO WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN
NEWS BREAK.
THE BEST-SELLING BOOK,
"HEAVEN IS FOR REAL," IS
GOING TO BECOME A MOVIE.
ACTOR GREG KINNEAR WILL STAR
AS PASTOR TODD BURPO, WHO'S
SON, COLTON, ALMOST DIED
DURING AN EMERGENCY
OPERATION WHEN HE WAS ONLY
FOUR YEARS OLD.
COLTON SAID AT THE TIME, HE
SAW HEAVEN.
JESUS CAME TO ME AND
SAID, COLTON, YOU NEED TO GO
BACK.
EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T WANT TO
GO BACK, HE SAID HE WAS
ANSWERING MY DAD'S PRAYER.
Reporter: THE BOOK
DESCRIBES COLTON'S
EXPERIENCES IN HEAVEN.
IT WILL DEBUT AROUND EASTER
NEXT YEAR.
ANOTHER CHRISTIAN COMPANY
HAS LOST ITS BATTLE TO OPT
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CONTROL MANDATE.
AN APPEALS COURT SAYS THE
MENNONITE OWNED WOOD
SPECIALTY CORPORATION DID
NOT QUALIFY FOR A RELIGIOUS
EXEMPTION.
IT SAYS IT HAS NO FORMAL
TIES TO A RELIGIOUS GROUP.
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Terry: THE LATEST ONE
IS OUT, AND WE'RE EXCITED
ABOUT THIS NEW "SUPERBOOK"
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OF JERICHO.
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WHEN YOU JOIN THE
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TO SIX WEEKS, YOU'RE ACCOUNT
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THAT IS JUST OUT, AND THAT
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I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO WANT
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GRANDCHILDREN.
THEY ARE AMAZING.
THE QUALITY, INCREDIBLE.
SO CALL THE NUMBER ON YOUR
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Pat: RAHAB WAS A
PROSTITUTE.
SHE HID THE SPIES, AND
ACTUALLY BECAME PART OF THE
PRODGINY OF THE LINEAGE OF
JESUS CHRIST.
SO SHE IS VERY IMPORTANT,
BUT A PROSTITUTE.
INTERESTING HOW GOD USES
THOSE --
Terry: A FASCINATING
STORY.
AND A GREAT WAY TO SHARE THE
WORD WITH YOUR CHILDREN IN
AN EXCITING FASHION.
Pat: QUESTIONS!
Terry: IT IS "BRING IT
ON" TIME.
THIS IS MARY -- I DON'T KNOW
WHERE SHE HEARD THIS, BUT
SHE SAYS, "IS IT A SIN TO
HAVE INTERCOURSE ON SUNDAY
IF YOU'RE MARRIED.
I KNOW THE BIBLE SAYS TO
KEEP SUNDAY HOLY."
Pat: THAT DEPENDS ON
YOUR VIEW OF INTERCOURSE.
IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE A HOLY
ACT.
I DON'T THINK IT IS A SIN IF
YOU'RE MARRIED, TO MAKE LOVE
TO YOUR WIFE OR YOUR
HUSBAND, WHETHER IT IS
SUNDAY OR OTHERWISE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY
ACCEPT -- THE BASIC THING
ABOUT THE SABBATH IS
SUPPOSED TO BE A DAY OF
REST --
Terry: AND A DAY OF
FOCUSING ON THE LORD.
Pat: I DON'T KNOW WHAT
YOU FOCUS ON WHEN YOU'RE
HAVING INTERCOURSE IN YOUR
RELATIONSHIP --
Terry: A GOD-ORDAINED
INSTITUTION.
Pat: THANK YOU, TERRY.
IT IS.
Terry: IT IS.
Pat: IT IS MADE BY GOD,
AND THEREFORE IT IS A HOLY
ACT.
WHAT IS NEXT?
Terry: JOHN SAYS, "MY
DAUGHTER, JENNIFER, IS
GETTING READY TO HAVE A
LITTLE ONE SOON.
SHE ASKED ME WHEN SHOULD SHE
HAVE HER BABY BAPTIZED.
WHAT SHOULD I TELL HER?"
Pat: IT DEPENDS ON WHAT
CHURCH YOU BELONG TO.
IF YOU'RE OF THE CATHOLIC
PERSUASION, YOU BELIEVE THAT
THE CHILD IS BORN WITH
ORIGINAL SIN, AND THEREFORE
BAPTISM IS AN ACT WHICH
CLEANSES THE CHILD.
AND IF THE CHILD DIES BEFORE
BAPTISM --
Terry: YEAH.
Pat: -- IT IS SUBJECT
TO REAL SERIOUS PROBLEMS.
THE PROTESTANTS BELIEVE IT
IS A BAPTISM THAT TAKES
PLACE AS A BELIEVER, AND
THEREFORE YOU HAVE TO BE
ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU
ARE DOING.
IT DEPENDS ON WHICH
COMMUNION YOU BELONG TO.
THERE ARE OTHERS WHO HAVE A
CHILD DEDICATED, WHETHER IT
IS METHODIST, OR WHATEVER,
AND THEY SPRINKLE THEM AND
THERE IS AN ACT OF
DEDICATION.
Terry: IN CATHOLICISM,
THEY HAVE CA CADECISM, AND
THEN YOU'RE ALLOWED TO SPEAK
FOR YOURSELF.
Pat: WHEN?
WELL, WHICH CHURCH DO YOU
BELONG TO?
IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE
DEDICATION OF INFANTS, THERE
IS NOTHING WRONG WITH
DEDICATING AN INFANT TO THE
LORD.
IT IS AT ANY TIME AFTER
BIRTH.
SO IT IS UP TO YOU.
Terry: THE INTENTION OF
THE HEART IS IN THAT
PROCESS, TOO.
THIS IS MARIA WHO SAYS, "HOW
CAN I FACE MEAN PEOPLE IN
THEIR CRITICISM ABOUT ME?"
Pat: I THINK YOU OUGHT
TO REFER THEM TO THE LORD.
I THINK YOU OUGHT TO REALIZE
WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT YOU.
AND I THINK YOU NEED TO
SATURATE YOURSELF IN THE
WORD.
AND THE BIBLE SAYS YOU'RE
PRECIOUS.
I'M PARAPHRASING NOW, BUT
THERE IS NOBODY ELSE IN ALL
OF THE WORLD, JESUS CHRIST
WOULD STILL HAVE DIED FOR
YOU.
IF HE WOULD HAVE DIED FOR
YOU, THEN YOU'RE PRECIOUS.
AND WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT
MAKE WHAT PEOPLE SAY.
YOU JUST HAVE TO IGNORE
THESE THINGS.
I TALKED TO SOMEBODY
YESTERDAY, WHO IS IN PUBLIC
OFFICE, AND WHO HAD BAD
THINGS WRITTEN.
AND I SAID, LISTEN, I WANT
YOU TO REMEMBER SOMETHING.
THEY WRAP FISH AND
YESTERDAY'S NEWSPAPERS.
AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T
REMEMBER WHAT WAS SAID IN
THE PAPER A DAY AFTER IT WAS
WRITTEN.
SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
LOOK AT WHAT GOD SAYS.
AND GOD SAYS YOU'RE
PRECIOUS.
SO THAT'S HOW YOU HANDLE
PEOPLE WHO ARE -- JUST
IGNORE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING
MEAN THINGS.
I KNOW THAT IS EASY ENOUGH
TO SAY, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU
HAVE TO DO.
YOU SHUT YOUR EARS TO THAT
AND OPEN YOUR EYES AND EARS
TO WHAT GOD SAYS ABOUT YOU.
Terry: THIS IS A VIEWER
WHO SAYS, "MY HOUSE IS
HAUNTED.
THERE IS MOANING COMING FROM
THE WALLS, LIGHTS TURN ON
AND OFF, AND THE TV CHANGES
CHANNELS ON ITS OWN, THE
BEDS MOVE, MIRRORS BREAK,
AND THERE IS SOMETIMES A
CREEPY FOG.
THE GHOSTS LOOK LIKE PEOPLE,
BUT HAVE DARK BLUE LIGHT
AROUND THEIR FEET AND
HANDS.
WHAT DO I DO?"
Pat: IF IT WAS ME, I'D
BURN THE HOUSE DOWN AND MOVE
ON.
ASSUMING YOU CAN'T AFFORD
THAT THAT -- I DON'T
BELIEVE IN GHOSTS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THE BIBLE
SUPPORTS THE CONCEPT OF
PEOPLE COMING BACK TO HAUNT
HOUSES.
THEY'RE WALKING THE HALLS
BECAUSE THEY WERE MURDERED
AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOREST
AND SOLACE.
BUT I DO BELIEVE IN DEMONS.
THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THERE
ARE DEMONS.
THERE ARE FALLEN ANGELS.
AND THERE ARE DEMONIC
FORCES.
YOU NEED TO GET PEOPLE TO
COME AND DO AN EXORCISM OVER
THAT PROPERTY AND COMMAND
THOSE DEMONS TO LEAVE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU DO.
YOU TAKE AUTHORITY IN THE
NAME OF JESUS.
IF YOU CAN'T DO THAT, MOVE.
Terry: THIS IS BROOK,
SHE NEEDS SOME WISE COUNSEL,
PAT.
"MY HUSBAND OF EIGHT YEARS
WALKED OUT ON ME TO BE WITH
HIS GIRLFRIEND AND REFUSES
TO DIVORCE ME.
AFTER A WHILE, I STARTED TO
DATE AGAIN AND GOT
PREGNANT.
HE STILL REFUSES TO DIVORCE
ME, BUT NOW THAT I'M GETTING
BACK RIGHT WITH GOD, WHERE
DOES THAT LEAVE MY SON.
MY SON NEEDS HIS FATHER AND
DESERVES TO HAVE A FULL
FAMILY."
Pat: JESUS GAVE AS A
REASON FOR DIVORCE SEXUAL
IMMORTALITY AND ADULTERY.
YOUR HUSBAND IS CLEARLY
COMMITTING ADULTERY.
AND HE WON'T GIVE YOU A
DIVORCE?
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU
A DIVORCE IN TODAY'S LEGAL
SYSTEM.
YOU CAN ASK FOR YOUR OWN
DIVORCE.
YOU DON'T EVEN NEED
GROUNDS.
IT IS WHAT THEY CALL
NO-FAULT DIVORCE.
SO IF YOU WANT A SEPARATION,
AND YOU CAN BACK UP -- IT
MAY BE BECAUSE HE WON'T DO
ANYTHING FINANCIALLY FOR
YOU, BUT HE IS NOT DOING
ANYTHING NOW.
BUT YOU DEFINITELY NEED TO
SEVER THE TIES WITH THE OLD
RELATIONSHIP.
YOUR HUSBAND SOUNDS LIKE AN
AWFUL PERSON, BUT THERE ARE
MANY MEN WE CAN CLASSIFY
THAT WAY AND IT'S A SHAME.
NEVERTHELESS, YOU NEED TO
GET OUT.
SO GET A LAWYER AND GET A
PROPER DIVORCE.
AND THEN IF THIS IS THE NEW
MAN, YOU CAN MARRY HIM.
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN
HAVING SEX WITH HIM BEFORE
YOU WERE MARRIED.
YOU MADE A MISTAKE.
BUT YOU SAY I WANT TO GET
BACK TO GOD.
SO GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU.
GOD WANTS TO MAKE EVERYTHING
RIGHT.
BUT YOU'VE GOT TO GO BACK
AND GET THE LEGAL STEPS.
GET DIVORCED.
GET REMARRIED, AND THEN GET
ON WITH YOUR LIFE.
Terry: AND LIVE WITH
THE LORD.
Pat: AND LIVE WITH THE
LORD AND GOD WILL FORGIVE
AND GOD WILL BLESS YOU.
Terry: THAT'S ALL THE
TIME WE HAVE FOR TODAY, BUT
WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR
QUESTIONS.
COMING UP, WE WANT YOU TO
MEET THE SILICON BUSINESSMAN
WHO IS USING SOCIAL MEDIA TO
BRING MILLIONS OF PEOPLE
TOGETHER TO PRAY FOR EACH
OTHER AND AMERICA.
FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN BE A
PART OF IT WHEN WE COME
BACK.
Terry: SOCIAL MEDIA
SOMETIMES GETS A BAD RAP,
BUT YOU'RE BOW T ABOUT TO
SEE HOW IT ONE MAN TO
MOBILIZED MILLIONS OF
PEOPLE.
Reporter: PRESIDENT
OBAMA USED SOCIAL MEDIA TO
GENERATE MOMENTUM AND
SUPPORT.
BUSINESSMAN MARK RY RYMAN
THOUGHT HE COULD DO THE SAME
THING.
LAST YEAR HE BECAME PARTNERS
WITH ONLINE PRAYER GROUPS
AND STARTED
newlifeAmerica.com HE IS
BRINGING MILLIONS TOGETHER
TO PRAY FOR EACH OTHER AND
OUR COUNTRY.
Terry: POLICE WELCOME
TO "THE 700
CLUB," MARK
RYMAN.
IT IS GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
THANK YOU, TERRY.
IT IS GOOD TO BE HERE.
Terry: YOU WERE A
SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN.
WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO GO IN
THIS DIRECTION?
TERRY, OUR COUNTRY NEEDS
GOD.
IN SILICON VALLEY WE NOW HOW
TO ORGANIZE PEOPLE.
WE THOUGHT, CAN WE GET
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE PRAYING
FOR AMERICA.
Terry: WHAT A GREAT
IDEA.
IT IS CALLED
NEWLIFEAMERICA.COM?
YES.
AND YOU CAN GO TO
Facebook.
WE HAVE A COMMUNITY OF ABOUT
A MILLION PEOPLE THERE RIGHT
NOW.
AND THEY'RE CONNECTED TO
96 MILLION PEOPLE ONLINE.
SO WE'VE GOT A GOOD SEGMENT
OF THE COUNTRY THAT ARE
CHRISTIANS, THAT CAN BE
REACHED TO PRAY FOR
AMERICA.
Terry: YOU, I'M SURE,
HAD RESPONSE FROM PEOPLE IN
THE TIME YOU'VE BEEN DOING
IT.
HOW ARE PEOPLE RESPONDING TO
PARTICIPATING IN THIS AND
EVEN FINDING OUT ABOUT IT?
PEOPLE FIND OUT IN A
VARIETY OF WAYS, MOSTLY
THROUGH FRIENDS.
THEY PARTICIPATE BY COMING
ON TO PRAY.
WE HAVE HUNDREDS OF
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EACH
WEEK WHO PRAY FOR EACH
OTHER, PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY,
AND SUPREME COURT
DECISIONS.
RICH, POOR, BLACK, WHITE,
OLD, YOUNG, PEOPLE ALL
PRAYING FOR AMERICA.
Terry: HOW DOES THAT
WORK?
DO YOU GIVE
SOME
FORM AND
DIRECTION TO?
DO PEOPLE JUST COME IN AND
DO IT INDEPENDENTLY?
YOU GO TO Facebook, NEW
LIFE AMERICA, AND EVERY DAY
YOU'LL GET MESSAGES
ENCOURAGING YOU TO PRAY.
WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEONE COMING
ON PRAYING FOR INDIVIDUAL
NEEDS, LIKE CANCER.
OR FOR THE HOBBY LOBBY COURT
DECISION.
AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE CAN
COME AND GET TOGETHER AND
PRAY IN A UNITED WAY FOR OUR
COUNTRY.
Terry: THIS IS SO
EXCITING.
I AM SOMETIMES FRUSTRATED
WITH SOCIAL
MEDIA BECAUSE I
THINK THERE IS SO MUCH THAT
IS NEGATIVE ABOUT IT,
ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A
PARENT AND YOU'RE TRYING TO
RAISE YOUR KIDS IN A WORLD
THAT IS FILLED WITH ALL
KINDS OF TEMPTATION AND
THINGS.
BUT IT REALLY CAN BE USED IN
A VERY POWERFUL WAY.
WHAT WAS YOUR GOAL WHEN YOU
STARTED THIS?
WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO
ACCOMPLISH WITH THIS?
GOD GAVE US THE FORMULA,
SO TO IS SPEAK, IN THE
BIBLE, IF WE PRAY AND HUMBLE
OURSELVES AND TURN FROM OUR
WICKED WAYS, HE WILL HEAR
AND FORGIVE.
WE SAID, HOW CAN YOU GET
80 MILLION AMERICANS AND
CHRISTIANS PRAYER TOGETHER.
WE NEED TO PRAY FOR OUR
SINS, AND PRAY THAT GOD WILL
BRING HEALING TO AMERICA.
Terry: WHO IS BEHIND
ALL OF THIS?
HOW MANY ARE IN A LEADERSHIP
CAPACITY?
THERE IS A SMALL TEAM OF
PEOPLE WHO DO THIS, MOSTLY
YOUNG PEOPLE, CENTERED OUT
OF SILICON VALLEY IN
CALIFORNIA.
WE HAVE JOINED TOGETHER
NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER,
NATIONAL PRAYER COMMITTEE --
EVERYONE IS GETTING TOGETHER
TO JOIN ONLINE TO PRAY.
Terry: THAT IS SO
EXCITING.
I THINK OF THE PSALM WHERE
IT SAYS HOW GOOD AND
WONDERFUL IT IS WHEN
BRETHREN COME TOGETHER IN
COMMUNITY.
BECAUSE GOD SAYS HE WILL
COMMAND A BLESSING.
AND OUR COUNTRY NEEDS A
BLESSING.
ABSOLUTELY.
OUR COUNTRY WAS GREAT AND
CAN BE GREAT AGAIN.
Terry: HOW CAN I
VIEWERS PARTICIPATE?
YOU CAN GO TO
Facebook.
Facebook.COM/NEW LIFE
AMERICA.
WHEN YOU GO THERE, START
GETTING INVOLVED AND PRAY
FOR AMERICA.
Terry: PRAY FOR
AMERICA, AS WELL AS THE
INDIVIDUAL NEEDS ON THERE.
WHAT A WONDERFUL IDEA.
THANK YOU.
THANK YOU.
Terry: IF YOU WOULD
LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON
MARK RYEMER, ALL YOU HAVE TO
DO IS LOG ON TO OUR WEBSITE
AT CBN.COM.
MARK, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
PAYER THANK YOU, TERRY.
Pat: I'M SO GLAD
Facebook IS BEING USED
REDEMPTIVELY.
IT OFTEN ISN'T.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF YOUR
HUSBAND DIED, AND WITHOUT
YOUR KNOWING, HE IS SPENDING
90 MINUTES IN HEAVEN.
WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU?
YOU'RE THE WIFE.
EVA PFIZER IS GOING TO GIVE
US HER DESCRIPTION OF THE
SHOCK SHE WENT THROUGH WHEN
HER HUSBAND WAS IN HEAVEN
WITHOUT HER KNOWING WHERE HE
HAD GONE.
SHE THOUGHT HE WAS DEAD.
HERE IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAID,
1 PETER: "CAST ALL OF YOUR
CARE UPON HIM, FOR HE CARES
FOR YOU."
THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE
FOR THIS PROGRAM.
THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US.
REMEMBER, IF YOU HAVE A
PRAYER NEED, YOU WANT SOME
COUNSELLING, THE TELEPHONE
NUMBER IS THERE.
IT IS A TOLL-FREE NUMBER, 24
HOURS A DAY SOMEBODY IS
THERE WHO LOVES YOU.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING
YOU AGAIN TOMORROW AT THIS
SAME TIME.
BYE-BYE.