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The 700 Club - Sept. 17, 2013

Former WWE wrestler Lex Luger explains the difficulty of separating stardom from reality in his personal life. Plus, Hootie & The Blowfish drummer Jim Sonefeld shares his story of victory over addiction. Read Transcript


FROM HOOTIE AND THE

BLOWFISH --

WE DRINK, PARTY, AND

DRIVE AROUND.

AND HIS METEORIC RISE TO

THE TOP.

300 FANS TO 3,000, TO

30,000.

THAT LITTLE ANGEL HOPPED ON

MY CHEST AND LOOKED DOWN AT

ME AND SAID, DAD, WHAT ARE

YOU DOING.

PLUS, THE MAN CALLED "THE

TOTAL PACKAGE."

HE IS THE HEAVY WEIGHT

CHAMPION OF THE WORLD.

WRESTLING LEGEND LEX

LUGAR JOINS US LIVE ON

TODAY'S "THE 700 CLUB."

*

[APPLAUSE]

Pat: WELCOME TO "THE

700 CLUB."

WHY DO CRAZY PEOPLE KILL

OTHER PEOPLE.

WHAT GOES ON IN THEIR

LIVES?

WELL, PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO

FIND OUT WHAT WAS BEHIND

THAT TERRIBLE SHOOTING IN

WASHINGTON THAT LEFT 13

DEAD.

IT LOOKS LIKE HE WAS

SPENDING A LOT OF TIME

WATCHING VIDEO GAMES.

Terry: WELL, A NEW

REPORT SAYS HE WAS HEARING

VOICES AND BEING TREATED FOR

MENTAL ILLNESS.

CHARLENE ISRAEL HAS THAT

STORY.

Reporter: A DEADLY

SHOOTING IN THE HEART OF THE

NATION'S CAPITAL.

WE HAVE THE SHOOTER ON

THE FOURTH FLOOR.

Reporter: THE F.B.I.

SAYS 34-YEAR-OLD AARON

ALEXIS WAS BEHIND THE

ATTACK.

HE IS IDENTIFIED AS A

CIVILIAN CONTRACTOR AND

MILITARY VETERAN.

AND HE HAD A VALID PASS AND

SECURITY CLEARANCE TO ENTER

THE YARD.

TODAY AUTHORITIES ARE

SEEKING THE PUBLIC'S HELP.

WE'RE LOOKING TO LEARN

EVERYTHING WE CAN ABOUT HIS

RECENT MOVEMENTS, HIS

CONTACTS, AND AS

ASSOCIATES.

Reporter: THE FATHER OF

THE SUSPECT ONCE DESCRIBED

HIS SON AS HAVING ANGER

MANAGEMENT PROBLEMS.

IT TURNS OUT ALEXIS HAD A

HISTORY OF DISTURBING

BEHAVIOR.

IN 2010, HE WAS ACCUSED OF

RECKLESSLY DISCHARGING A

FIREARM INTO A NEIGHBOR'S

APARTMENT.

AND IN 2004, HE CONFESSED TO

SHOOTING OUT THE TIRES OF

ANOTHER MAN'S CAR.

BUT ALEXIS WAS NOT A LONER,

AND FRIENDS WERE SHOCKED TO

HEAR HE WOULD GO ON A

SHOOTING RAMPAGE.

I CAN'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE

HE DID THAT.

HE IS NOT THAT KIND OF GUY

TO KILL PEOPLE.

Reporter: FORMER

ROOMMATES WHO LIVED WITH

ALEXIS EARLIER THIS YEAR IN

TEXAS SAY HE WAS A

PRACTICING BUDDHIST, BUT

THEY ALSO SAY HE WAS UPSET

WITH THE MILITARY SINCE

BEING DISCHARGED IN 2011.

HE WAS JUST UPSET WITH

THE GOVERNMENT ABOUT ALL OF

THAT.

HE FELT SLIGHTED BY HIS

GOVERNMENT.

Reporter: AND FRIENDS

ALSO SAY ALEXIS WAS DEEPLY

INTO VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES AND

COULD SPEND HOURS PLAYING

THEM.

MEANWHILE, THE DEADLY

SHOOTING HAS REIGNITED TALK

ABOUT GUN CONTROL.

ON CAPITOL HILL, SENATOR

DIANNE FEINSTEIN

SAID, QUOTE,"CONGRESS MUST

STOP SHIRKING ITS

RESPONSIBILITY AND RESUME

DEBATE ON GUN CONTROL."

BUT ONE TOLD CBN NEWS THAT

GUN CONTROL IS NOT THE ONLY

ANSWER.

THOSE THAT ARE HONORABLE

PEOPLE, LIKE MYSELF,

WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DEFEND

OURSELVES.

THAT IS A MISNOMER.

IT'S NOT A FACT-BASED

ARGUMENT.

Reporter: IT IS STILL

UNCLEAR HOW ALEXIS WAS ABLE

TO GET AN ASSAULT-STYLE

RIFLE INSIDE THE NAVY YARD.

SECURITY REQUIRES GUESTS TO

PASS THROUGH TURN STYLES

WATCHED BY SECURITY GUARDS

BEFORE ENTERING.

CHARLENE ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.

Pat: ONCE AGAIN, IT

SHOWS HOW WEAK OUR DEFENCES

ARE.

THESE ARE SOFT TARGETS.

IT'S IN A MILITARY

INSULATION WHERE SOME OF THE

KEY FIGURES IN THE UNITED

STATES NAVY WORK.

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GUARDED

MORE CAREFULLY.

THEY JUST LET THEIR GUARDS

DOWN.

I AGREE WITH MISS DUFF WHO

SAID GUNS ARE NOT THE

PROBLEM.

THE PROBLEM IS MENTAL

ILLNESS.

THIS MAN WAS MENTALLY ILL,

AND HE ALSO WAS ADDICTED TO

THESE VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES.

AND THOSE THINGS CAN BECOME

ADDICTIVE AND THEY CAN

BECOME LIFE-ALTERING.

AND THEY WATCH THAT, AND

SUDDENLY THAT BECOMES THEIR

REALITY.

AND THEN IF HE HAS A LITTLE

BIT OF ANGER, BU TH BUT THE

FACT HE DISCHARGED A WEAPON

A COUPLE OF TIMES EARLIER.

HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED

UP, AND THERE SHOULD HAVE

BEEN SOME ORDER OF RESTRAINT

ABOUT HIM OWNING WEAPONS.

HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE ALLOWED

FOR HIM TO GET INTO THAT

FACILITY.

THEY MISSED IT IN TERMS OF

SCREENING.

THERE WERE A WHOLE LOT OF

THINGS THAT WENT WRONG.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, 13 PEOPLE

NOW LIE DEAD BECAUSE OF IT.

TURNING OVERSEAS, THE UNITED

STATES IS STILL WORKING OUT

ITS RESPONSE TO THE CRISIS

IN SYRIA.

Reporter: PAT, SYRIA'S

MAIN OPPOSITION GROUP IS

DEMANDING A SWIFT

INTERNATIONAL RESPONSE AFTER

A NEW REPORT FROM THE UNITED

NATIONS SAID THERE IS CLEAR

AND CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT

CHEMICAL WEAPONS WERE USED

IN SYRIA.

BUT THE HIGHLY ANTICIPATED

REPORT DOESN'T SAY WHICH

SIDE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

ATTACK.

THE U.S. BELIEVES THE

EVIDENCE SHOWS IT WAS THE

ASSAD REGIME.

THE REPORT COMES AFTER THE

U.S. STRUCK A DEAL WITH

RUSSIA TO REMOVE SYRIA'S

CHEMICAL WEAPONS.

AND PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS

CLEARED THE WAY FOR SOME AID

TO ASSIST THE REBELS.

THE RAINS HAVE FINALLY

CEASED IN COLORADO.

GOOD NEWS AS OFFICIALS

CONTINUE TO SEARCH FOR THE

MISSING.

AUTHORITIES SAY AT LEAST

EIGHT PEOPLE WERE KILLED BY

THE DEADLY FLOODWATERS.

A WEEK OF TORRENTIAL

DOWNPOURS HAS ALSO LEFT

HUNDREDS UNACCOUNTED FOR.

AND RESCUE TEAMS ARE STILL

TRYING TO EVACUATE SOME OF

THE VICTIMS.

BUT OTHER EVACUEES ARE

RETURNING AND FINDING THEIR

HOUSES UTTERLY RUINEDMENT

RUINED.

ABOUT 19,000 HOMES HAVE BEEN

RUINED OR DESTROYED.

"OPERATION BLESSING" IS

THERE WORKING TO HELP THOSE

THERE, AND PROVIDING

PRESCRIPTIONS, DIAPERS, AND

BABY FORMULA.

IT IS SO GREAT TO HAVE

"OPERATION BLESSING" COME TO

BE PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE

RESOURCES AND WISDOM THAT

YOU ALL HAVE.

THIS IS OUR FIRST ROUND, AND

WE ARE SO THANKFUL FOR THE

WISDOM THAT COMES FROM

"OPERATION BLESSING" AND

ORGANIZATIONS LIKE YOURS

THAT WOULD BRING RELIEF.

Reporter: VOLUNTEERS

ARE ALSO OFFERING EMOTIONAL

AND SPIRITUAL REPORT THROUGH

PRAYER.

PAT?

Pat: JOHN, THE THING IS

PEOPLE WANT TO HELP, AND

WE'RE THERE.

THE NICE THING ABOUT

"OPERATION BLESSING," WE'RE

THERE.

WHEN THE CRISIS COMES, WE'RE

THERE.

WE HAVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE

TEAMS ALMOST AT THE MOMENT

SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS,

THEY SHOW UP.

IF YOU WANT TO PARTICIPATE

HELPING THOSE PEOPLE IN

COLORADO, DISASTER RELIEF

FUND, CBN CENTER, VIRGINIA

BEACH, VIRGINIA, 23643.

WE DON'T JUST COME IN AND

TAKE PICTURES AND LEAVE.

WE STAY AND STAY AND STAY.

WE'RE USUALLY ONE OF THE

FIRST IN AND ALMOST ALWAYS

THE LAST TO LEAVE BECAUSE WE

LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE.

THERE WAS A GOOD MAN IN THE

UNITED STATES SENATE WHO IS

NOW RETIRING, AND HE WILL BE

MISSED BY PEOPLE LIKE ME.

SO JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT

STORY.

Reporter: MONTANA

DEMOCRATIC SENATOR MAX

BUCKUS IS TRYING TO SIMPLIFY

THE TAX CODE.

POLITICAL AND BUSINESS

LEADERS AGREE THE CODE IS

COMPLICATED FOR INDIVIDUALS

AND TWO BURDENSOME FOR

BUSINESSES.

HE IS WORKING WITH HIS

REPUBLICAN COUNTER-PART IN

THE HOUSE, DAVE CAMP OF

MICHIGAN.

BUCKUS HAS TALKED ABOUT IT

WITH SEVERAL THOUSAND

POLITICIANS, BUSINESS

PEOPLE, AND ACADEMICS IN

ATTENDANCE.

BUSINESS LEADERS AGREE

REFORMING THE TAX CODE WOULD

HELP AMERICA BETTER COMPETE

IN THE GLOBAL COMMUNITY.

HEROIN ABUSE IS NOW ON THE

RISE.

LORI JOHNSON EXPLAINS HOW

HEROIN'S POPULARITY IS

DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE

INCREASE IN PRESCRIPTION

DRUG ABUSE.

Reporter: MILLIONS OF

AMERICAN ADULTS AND

TEENAGERS ARE ADDICTED TO

VICODIN AND OXYCONTIN.

SO MUCH SO THEY'LL DO

ANYTHING TO GET THEM, EVEN

KILL.

BUT FINDING THE DRUGS AND

PAYING FOR THEM IS HARDER

AND HARDER.

SOMETIMES JUST ONE PILL

SELLS FOR $80.

SO ADDICTS LIKE THIS WOMAN

OFTEN SWITCH TO THE

PAINKILLER'S COUSIN, HEROIN,

BECAUSE IT IS EASIER TO

FIND, CHEAPER, AND PACTS A

BIGGER PUNCH THAN

PAINKILLERS.

YOU HEAR ABOUT SOMETHING

THAT IS LIKE THAT, ONLY 100

TIMES STRONGER, I CAN

DEFINITELY SEE THE APPEAL.

Reporter: BUT THE

APPEAL FADES QUICKLY.

SOON IT TAKES MORE OF THE

DRUG TO GET THE SAME HIGH,

THAT FEELING THAT BECOMES

THE ONLY THING IN LIFE THAT

MATTERS.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

IT'S HORRIBLE.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO DO

IT ANYMORE, BUT YOU JUST

DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY

CHOICE.

Reporter: REHAB CENTERS

REPORT A RISE IN HEROIN

ABUSERS, ESPECIALLY ONES

FROM MIDDLE CLASS HOMES

BECAUSE HEROIN HAS BECOME

MORE AVAILABLE IN PLACES

YOU'D NEVER EXPECT.

IS CHEAPER FOR KIDS.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THAT'S THE

QUESTION YOU ASK: WHY DID

YOU START WITH HEAVIER DRUGS

THAN ALCOHOL?

AND MOST OF THEM TELL YOU IT

IS EASIER TO GET THAN

ALCOHOL.

Reporter: THERAPIST

LINDA MENTEL SAYS THERE IS

ONLY ONE WAY TO BREAK THE

BONDAGE OF HEROIN

ADDICTION.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT WILL

POWER.

YOU CANNOT WILL YOURSELF OFF

OF THIS TYPE OF BIOLOGICAL

PULL THAT IS IN THE BRAIN.

SO YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE

SOMETHING BIGGER THAN

YOURSELF.

AND THE TRANSENDANT POWER OF

GOD, THE RELATIONSHIP WITH

CHRIST WHO IS IN YOU, WHO

CAN HELP YOU AND WHO CAN

STRENGTHEN YOU TO ALL THINGS

IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.

Reporter: MENTEL SAYS

PEOPLE CAN DIE FROM A HEROIN

OVERDOSE THE VERY FIRST TIME

THEY USE IT.

SHE RECOMMENDS PARENTS TALK

TO THEIR KIDS ABOUT THE

DANGERS OF HEROIN, AND

INTERVENE IF THEY SEE

CHANGES IN THEIR CHILD'S

PERSONALITY, WEIGHT,

FRIENDS, OR SCHOOL WORK.

LORI JOHNSON, CBN NEWS.

A GROWING NUMBER OF

DRUG-RESISTANT SUPER BUGS

ARE AN URGENT THREAT TO THE

UNITED STATES.

TWO OF THE WORST THREATS

INCLUDE GONORRHEA THAT IS

RESISTANT TO ANTIBIOTICS,

AND A BUG THAT CAUSES

POTENTIALLY LIFE-THREATENING

DIARRHEA.

AND FUTURE DRUGS ALSO MAY

NOT BE EFFECTIVE.

THE RIGHT DIET, ALONG WITH

EXERCISE AND KEEPING STRESS

UNDER CONTROL, MIGHT HELP

REVERSE THE AGING PROCESS.

THE STUDY FROM THE

UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA AT

SAN FRANCISCO FOUND THAT A

PLANT-BASED DIET FOCUSED ON

VEGETABLES, ALONG WITH OTHER

CHANGES COULD ACTUALLY

AFFECT KILLAMERS, WHICH

AFFECT HOW CELLS AGE.

THE DOCTOR SAYS IT IS NOT

THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH, BUT

IT IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT

DIRECTION.

PAT, YOU'RE AN EXCELLENT

EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE WHO IS

STRONG AND HEALTHY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE

SECRET TO LIVING LONG?

Pat: IT IS CHOOSING

YOUR ANCESTORS WISELY.

THAT'S HOW IT STARTS.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: THANK YOU FOR

THAT TIDBIT.

Pat: YOU'VE GOT TO DO

THAT FIRST.

BUT I -- THESE KILOMERS,

THEY ARE A LINE OF CHROME

INTOAMS CHROMOSOMES THAT

JUST CHOP OFF AS YOU AGE.

THEY CHOP OFF THE ABILITY TO

RECREATE, AND THE CELLS GO

AWAY.

THAT'S WHY THIS RESVERATOL

IS SO HOT BECAUSE IT IS

SUPPOSED TO BOLSTER THE

KILOMERS, AND I THINK THE

WHOLE IDEA OF PLANT-BASED,

BEANS AND CORNS AND FRESH

VEGETABLES AND FRUITS -- YOU

KNOW, OUR DIET, TERRY, IS

AWFUL.

I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP.

LORI DID A STUDY AND WHEN

SHE TALKED TO PEOPLE THEY

SAID, NO, THAT IS NOT A

PROBLEM.

AND NOW THERE IS A NEW STUDY

OUT OF HARVARD THAT SAYS

THERE IS A DEFINITE LINK --

Terry: SURELY THERE IS

A PROBLEM.

Pat: THIS IS NOT JUST

LIKE ONE SUGAR GRAM VERSUS

ANOTHER SUGAR GRAHAM.

THESE THINGS HAVE FUNNY

EFFECTS ON PEOPLE.

THEY'VE GOT WHAT THEY CALL

THE METABOLIC SYNDROME.

AND IT CAUSES HIGH BLOOD

PRESSURE.

IT CAUSES INSULIN

RESISTANCE.

SO YOUR BODY CAN'T CONTROL

THE INSULIN, AND IT DEMANDS

MORE AND MORE INSULIN, AND

THE INSULIN IS FALLING INTO

YOUR BODY, AND THIS IS

CAUSING DIABETES.

YOU'VE GOT ALL OF THESE

TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCES OF

THIS STUFF.

AND MOST OF IT IS BASED BY

WHAT WE EAT.

SO, IN ANY EVENT, YES, JOHN,

I'M GOING TO LIVE TO BE

100.

YOU JUST MARK MY WORDS.

Terry: YOU HEARD IT

HERE.

COMING UP, WE'LL TALK WITH

THE WORLD CHAMPION WRESTLER

AND A PLATINUM ALBUM-SELLING

DRUMMER.

BUT FIRST A MYSTERY ON THE

HIGH SEAS.

HUNDREDS OF DOLPHINS ARE

WASHING ASHORE.

SO WHAT IS KILLING THESE

DOLPHINS?

WE'LL GRITY AFTER THIS.

-- WE'LL INVESTIGATE AFTER

THIS.

Pat: OH, WE'VE GOT

SOMETHING COMING.

I WAS WITH SCOTT ROSS, AND

HE IS A GREAT GUY TO BE

WITH.

HE IS A WONDERFUL

INTERVIEWER, AND SO HE

INTERVIEWED ME FOR A LONG

TIME UP IN THE MOUNTAINS OF

VIRGINIA, A GORGEOUS

SETTING.

Terry: YES.

AND YOU ANSWERED THOSE

QUESTIONS.

Pat: AND ON AND ON AND

ON.

I HOPE IT WAS ADEQUATE, BUT

IT IS GOING TO DEAL WITH A

LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT PEOPLE

WANT TO KNOW.

THAT'S GOING TO BE

AVAILABLE, WE'LL TELL YOU

AFTER A WEEK OR SO HOW YOU

CAN GET IT.

YOU KNOW, I LOVE DOLPHINS.

THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT A

DOLPHIN THAT IS SO

APPEALING.

THEY'RE ONE OF THE SMARTEST

OF GOD'S CREATURES, OUTSIDE

OF MAN HIMSELF.

THEY'RE SO FRIENDLY, AND

THERE ARE CONSTANT TALES OF

HOW THEY RESCUE PEOPLE IN

THE WATER.

THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DROWNING,

THE DOLPHINS COME AND PUSH

THEM ASHORE.

THESE WONDERFUL CREATURES

ARE NOW STARTING TO DIE,

ESPECIALLY ALONG THE

ATLANTIC COAST.

HUNDREDS OF THESE WONDERFUL

ANIMALS ARE WASHING ASHORE.

MARINE BIOLOGISTS ARE

SCRAMBLING TO KNOW.

I WORRY ABOUT THE DOLPHINS.

MARK MARTIN INVESTIGATES.

IT IS AN OMINOUS SIGHT.

THIS LARGE MALE BOTTOM-NOSED

DOLPHIN, WHILE OTHERS SWIM

BY, POTENTIAL VICTIMS AS AN

UNUSUAL MORTALITY EVENT IN

THE MID-ATLANTIC REGION.

SINCE EARLY JULY, STANDINGS

OF DOLPHINS HAVE JUMPED FROM

NEW YORK TO NORTH CAROLINA.

IN FACT, FOR THE MONTHS OF

JULY AND AUGUST, THESE

STRANDINGS WERE MORE THAN

NINE TIMES THE HISTORICAL

AVERAGE, REACHING A TOTAL OF

430 THROUGH

SEPTEMBER 2nd.

HE MIGHT HAVE SOME

LESIONS.

Reporter: WHEN THEY END

UP ON THE VIRGINIA SHORES,

THE AC.

AQUARIUM

STRANDING RESPONSE TEAM

RECOVERS THEM AND TAKE THEM

TO THEIR FACILITY.

THAT'S WHEN THE BIOLOGISTS

PERFORM A NECROPSY.

Reporter: ON AVERAGE,

IN JULY LAST YEAR, THEY

DISCOVERED SEVEN, AND JULY

OF THIS YEAR ALONE, THEY

DISCOVERED JUST SHY OF 50.

WE EXAMINED THE ENTIRE

ANIMAL, OUTSIDE AND INSIDE.

WE LOOK INSIDE FOR HUMAN

INTERACTIONS, AND WE LOOK

INSIDE TO SEE IF THERE ARE

ANY UNUSUAL PATHOLOGIES.

AND WE'VE BEEN SEEING

LESIONS AROUND THE MOUTH AND

INTERNALLY, AND AFFECTED

ORGANS.

WE'RE TAKING A TON OF

SAMPLES.

Reporter: AND THESE

SAMPLES ARE SHIPPED ALL OVER

THE COUNTRY?

YES.

Reporter: SUSAN IS THE

RESEARCH COORDINATOR FOR THE

VIRGINIA ENVIRONMENT AND

MARINE SCIENCE CENTER.

WE HAVE A LOT OF DOLPHINS

HERE.

AND WE THINK THAT'S THE

REASON WHY WE'VE HAD SO MANY

STRANDINGS.

IF THIS DISEASE IS AFFECTING

A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THE

POPULATION, IF YOU HAVE MORE

DOLPHINS, YOU WOULD EXPECT

TO SEE MORE.

Reporter: BUT WHAT IS

HAPPENING.

RESEARCH SAYS IT IS A BILLY

VIRUS, WHICH IS LIKE THE

MEASLES.

ONCE THE VIRUS GETS INTO

THEM, THE ANIMAL ARE VERY

SOCIAL.

ONE BREATHS OUT, ANOTHER

BREATHS IN.

WHEN THEY HAVE CONTACT WITH

EACH OTHER --

Reporter: AND IF HUMANS

COME INTO CONTACT WITH THE

DOLPHINS, DARKO SAYS THE

BILLY VIRUS CANNOT BE

TRANSFERRED BETWEEN ANIMALS

AND HUMANS.

BUT PEOPLE ARE NOT TOTALLY

IN THE CLEAR.

SHE EXPLAINS NOT ALL OF THE

DOLPHINS ARE DYING STRICTLY

FROM THE MORBILLY VIRUS.

IT WEAKENS THEIR IMMUNE

SYMPTOMS AND THEY GET

VIRUSES THAT CAN BE CATCHY

TO HUMANS.

WHAT THEY'RE DYING FOR OR

CATCHING IS IN THE WATER.

SO ANYBODY WITH A

COMPROMISED IMMUNE SYSTEM OR

AN OPEN WOUND SHOULD BE

CAREFUL WHEN THEY'RE

SWIMMING IN THE OCEAN.

Reporter: RIGHT NOW

THERE IS NO WAY TO PREVENT

THE SPREAD OF THE VIRUS

AMONG DOLPHINS.

THE LAST MAJOR DIE-OFF OF

THIS KIND HAPPENED IN THE

LATE '80s.

THAT EVENT IN 1987, '88,

DEPLETED THE BOTTLE-NOSED

POPULATION IN HALF.

THAT MAKES SCIENTISTS VERY

CONCERNED.

WE ALREADY SURPASSED THE

NUMBER OF DOLPHINS THAT DIED

IN THE 1987-'88 DIE-OFF THE

SO UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE

ANIMALS ARE AFFECTED BY THIS

IS VERY IMPORTANT.

THESE MAMMALS ARE

PROTECTED BECAUSE THEY'RE

EVERYONE'S ANIMALS.

THEY'RE A HIGHER SPECIES IN

THE OCEAN.

SO WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING

WRONG WITH THEM, IT IS

USUALLY AN INDICATION WE

NEED TO LOOK AT OUR OCEAN AS

A WHOLE.

Reporter: THE LAST

DIE-OFF LASTED 18 MONTHS.

SCIENTISTS FEAR THIS EVENT

COULD LAST THAT LONG AS

WELL.

MARK MARTIN, CBN NEWS,

VIRGINIA BEACH.

Pat: I'M JUST SAD ABOUT

THAT.

I REALLY LIKE DOLPHINS.

Terry: JUST WATCHING

THEM PLAY ALONGSIDE THE

BOATS.

Pat: TO HAVE SOMETHING

SO FRIENDLY AND THEY'RE SO

INTELLIGENCE.

THE LORD WILL -- WE'LL HAVE

TO PRAY FOR THE DOLPHINS.

Terry: TH A DRUMMER

TAKES A LONG LOOK BACK AT

HIS CAREER.

HOW MANY BANDS GET

THERE.

A LITTLE BAND TO A TOUR

BUS.

THAT'S A BIG THING TO PUT ON

GUYS WHO HAVE JUST COME OUT

OF PLAYING CLUBS.

Terry: HOOTIE AND THE

BLOWFISH'S JIM TELLAZON

TELLS US ABOUT THE PRICE OF

FAME.

THAT'S NEXT.

COMING UP LATER, THE LEX

EXPRESS.

LEX LUGAR IS THE HEAVY

WEIGHT CHAMPION OF THE

WORLD.

Reporter: PRO WRESTLING

SUPERSTAR LEX LUGAR TALKS

ABOUT THE TIME HE MET HIS

MATCH.

LATER ON TODAY'S "THE 700

CLUB."

Terry: IF THE

MID-'90s HAD AN ANTHEM,

HOOTIE AND THE BLOWFISH

WOULD PROVIDE THE

SOUNDTRACK.

THEIR ALBUM, "CRACKED REAR

VIEW" WAS RELEASED IN 1984,

AND QUICKLY BECOME ONE OF

THE BEST-SELLER OF ALL

TIME.

BUT AS THE DRUMMER TOLD JIM,

HOOTIE'S SUCCESS CAME WITH A

HUGE COST.

I WAS PRETTY MUCH BORN A

DRUMMER, AS MY MOM USED TO

TELL ME, I WAS BEATING ON

ANYTHING THAT WAS

AVAILABLE.

Reporter: NEITHER JIM

OR HIS MOTHER WOULD KNOW

THAT HIS KNACK FOR MUSIC

WOULD MAKE HIM AN

INTERNATIONAL MUSIC STAR.

THEY SOLD OVER 100 MILLION

ALBUMS AND REMAINS ONE OF

THE MOST BELOVED ROCK BANDS

IN THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

I RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH JIM

TO TALK ABOUT HIS FORMER

ADDICTION, HIS FAITH, AND

LIFE AFTER HOOTIE AND THE

BLOWFISH.

LET'S GO BACK TO THE

BEGINNING, AND YOUR FIRST

IMPRESSIONS AND FIRST VIEWS

OF GOD.

YOU GREW UP IN THE CATHOLIC

CHURCH.

UNFORTUNATELY, FOR ME, A LOT

OF WHAT I TOOK AWAY FROM

THAT EXPERIENCE, FOR

WHATEVER REASO, WAS A BIT

OF FEAR OF GOD.

THE FEAR I'M NOT A GOOD

KID.

Reporter: BUT JIM

LONGED FOR APPROVAL, AND

WHEN HE DIDN'T FIND IT IN

CHURCH, HE TURNED TO HIS

FRIENDS.

UNDER PRESSURE TO LOOK COOL,

HE STARTED DRINKING WHEN HE

WAS ONLY 14.

THAT FEELING WAS

SOMETHING I KEPT GOING BACK

FOR.

THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS

SLOWLY FALLING IN LOVE

WITH.

Reporter: SO YOU GO TO

COLLEGE, AND NOW FREEDOM.

HOW DID YOU HANDLE THAT?

YOU KNOW, I DRANK AND

DRUGGED IN COLLEGE BECAUSE

IT FELT GOOD.

A BIT OF BRAVADO, OF

CONFIDENCE.

Reporter: IT WAS THERE

AT THE UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH

CAROLINA, WHERE JIM BECAME A

PART OF HOOTIE AND THE

BLOWFISH.

THEY QUICKLY BECAME A CAMPUS

FAVORITE AND WERE KNOWN AS A

BAND WHO LIKED TO PARTY.

I NEVER FELT LIKE I WAS

OUT OF BOUNCE.

I FELT LIKE WE DRINK, WE

PARTY, WE DRIVE AROUND, WE

GET PAID, WE MEET PEOPLE,

AND IT IS FUN.

I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM WITH

THIS.

Reporter: AND THEN YOU

MAKE AN ALBUM, "CRACKED

REVIEW IERA," AND IT JUST

EXPLODES.

IT WAS A BIG DEAL.

NOT MANY BANDS GET THERE.

WE SAW LIFE HAPPENING VERY

FAST ON A GRANDER SCALE.

WE WENT FROMUIL 30 FANS TO

300 FANS TO 30,000.

IT IS A BIG THING TO PUT ON

GUYS WHO JUST CAME OUT OF

PLAYING CLUBS.

Reporter: SO HOW ABOUT

THE ALCOHOL?

WHEN DID IT REALLY START TO

GET OUT OF CONTROL FOR YOU?

ALTHOUGH I HAD BOUTS OF

OUT OF CONTROL DRINKING AND

DRUGS FROM HIGH SCHOOL

THROUGH COLLEGE, IT WAS HIT

AND MISS.

NOW YOU THROW A BUNCH OF

FANS, A BUNCH OF FREE

DRINKS, AND MONEY INTO THE

EQUATION, AND THERE WAS ONLY

ONE WAY I WAS GOING, WHICH

WAS MORE.

Reporter: BEFORE LONG,

HOOTIE AND THE BLOWFISH

BECAME ONE OF THE

TOP-SELLING BANDS IN THE

WORLD.

DURING THAT TIME, JIM SAYS

ANOTHER ADDICTION STARTED TO

TAKE HOLD.

I WAS ADDICTED TO THAT

SUCCESS IN MY CAREER, WHERE

I HAD PEOPLE SAYING YOU'RE

AWESOME.

YOU'RE OKAY.

THERE IS A ROLLERCOASTER IN

MUSIC, AND YOU'VE GOT TO BE

ABLE TO RIDE OUT THE LOW

POINTS.

WHEN WE WENT INTO A LOW

POINT, IT WAS TOUGH.

I DIDN'T HAVE THAT FEELING

ANYMORE.

I FELT LIKE I WAS CHASING

SOMETHING.

I FELT LIKE, WHERE DID THE

PEOPLE GOING?

WHY DIDN'T RADIO PLAY OUR

SONG.

Reporter: TO COPE, JIM

TURNED TO THE BOTTLE.

BUT NOW HE HAD MARRIED AND

STARTED A FAMILY.

WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT, THE DRINKING

AND THE TOURS, HOW DID YOU

MANAGE YOUR RELATIONSHIP

WITH YOUR WIFE AND YOUR

CHILDREN.

I BROUGHT MY ADDICTION

AND MY LIFESTYLE FROM THE

ROAD, WHICH WAS YEAH, LOVE

ME.

THANK YOU.

I CAN DO NO WRONG.

I CAN PARTY AS MUCH AS I

WANT.

I CAN DO ANYTHING AND IT'S

OKAY.

AND THEN YOU COME HOME TO A

HOUSEHOLD WHERE THERE IS A

BABY, OR TWO BABIES AND A

WIFE, AND THOSE DON'T MIX.

Reporter: WHAT HAPPENED

THAT YOU CAME TO A POINT

WHERE YOU'RE, LIKE, OKAY,

THIS CANNOT GO ON ANY

LONGER?

A MESSAGE FROM GOD THAT

NEEDED TO GET TO ME SO I

COULD WAKE UP CAME IN THE

FORM OF MY 4-YEAR-OLD

DAUGHTER.

AND, UM...WHEW!

I BUILT A STUDIO BEHIND MY

HOUSE SO I COULD MAKE MUSIC

AND ALSO DRINK AND DRUG AND

ESCAPE.

MY 4-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER CAME

OUT TO VISIT ME IN THE

STUDIO.

10:30 ON A SUNDAY MORNING

AND I WAS STILL ASLEEP.

PASSED OUT ON THE COUCH.

THAT LITTLE ANGEL HOPPED ON

MY CHEST AND LOOKED DOWN AT

ME AND JUST SAID, DAD, WHAT

ARE YOU DOING?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING OUT

HERE?

WHY AREN'T YOU IN THE

HOUSE?

AND I COULDN'T ANSWER HER.

I HAD NO ANSWER.

SHE HAD JUST ASKED ME THE

QUESTION THAT WAS SO

PROFOUND THAT IT WAS GOD

SPEAKING TO ME, SAYING,

WHO'S IN CONTROL OF YOUR

LIFE?

IT WAS THE BEGINNING FROM

THAT ADMISSION PROCESS OF I

HAVE WALKED AWAY FROM YOU,

GOD.

I HAVE IGNORED YOU.

I HAVE LIVED BY THE RULES OF

THIS EARTH, AND I'M AT THE

END OF THAT ROPE.

I NEED YOU.

Reporter: JIM KNEW IT

WAS TIME TO GET HELP.

SO HE JOINED A 12-STEP

PROGRAM AND EVENTUALLY

STOPPED DRINKING.

BUT THE YEARS OF ADDICTION

HAD ALREADY TAKEN ITS TOLL

ON HIS MARRIAGE AND HE AND

HIS WIFE DIVORCED.

AROUND THAT TIME, THE BAND

ALSO STOPPED TOURING.

JIM ADMITS IT WASN'T EASY,

BUT WITH CHRIST, HE WAS

READY TO REBUILD HIS LIFE ON

A NEWFOUND DAYS.

I WANTED TO KNOW MY NEW

PURPOSE.

I WANTED TO KNOW WHY I WAS

HERE BECAUSE IT WASN'T ANY

OF THE REASONS THAT I

THOUGHT I WAS HERE.

IT WASN'T HOOTIE AND THE

BLOWFISH.

IT WASN'T TO MAKE PEOPLE

DANCE IN THEIR SEATS TO

HOOTIE AND THE BLOWFISH

MUSIC.

WHAT HE HAD FOR ME WAS

SOMETHING SLIGHTLY

DIFFERENT.

HE WANTED ME TO STEP UP TO

THE MICROPHONE AND SING HIS

PRAISE.

Reporter: JIM IS NOW

REMARRIED AND HAS FIVE

BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN.

HE RECENTLY RELEASED A

CHRISTIAN ALBUM CALLED

"SOUND."

AND HE HAS ANOTHER PROJECT

IN THE WORKS.

I KNEW I WAS ON A PATH

FOR HIM AND THAT HE WAS

SPEAKING TO ME.

AND HERE IS WHAT HE WANTED

ME TO SAY, AND IT WAS A

STORY OF REDEMPTION, A STORY

OF BEING BROKEN, AND A STORY

THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK HE

WANTS US BROKEN TO SOME

DEGREE, AND THAT HE COULD

USE THIS BROKEN MAN TO

GLORIFY HIM.

Terry: FOR MOST OF US,

IT TAKES BEING BROKEN TO

UNDERSTAND JUST HOW MUCH WE

NEED A SAVIOR.

JIM'S STORY IS REALLY A

GRANDER PICTURE OF WHAT

HAPPENS TO ALL OF US, I

THINK.

THERE IS A SENSE OF

DISCONTENT, OF SOMETHING IN

US THAT SAYS THERE MUST BE

MORE.

AND SO WE GO OUTLOOKING FOR

MORE, AND WE LOOK FOR IT

GENERALLY SPEAKING, OR WE DO

IT ON OUR OWN, IN ALL OF THE

WRONG PLACES.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR APPROVAL.

WE'RE LOOKING FOR

ACCEPTANCE, AND EVEN THAT

HIGH HE SAID HE GOT FOR

PEOPLE SAYING HOW GREAT WE

ARE.

I GUESS WE ALL WANT THAT,

FOR PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE

WE'RE SOMEBODY, AND WHAT

WE'RE DOING MATTERS.

AND YET IN THE QUIET OF THE

NIGHT, BEHIND THE SCENES, WE

KNOW WHO WE ARE.

WE KNOW WHAT WE DO AND DON'T

HAVE AND KNOW WHAT WE HAVE

DONE.

AND THE SPIRIT OF

CONTENTMENT THAT WE'RE

LOOKING FOR NEVER COMES.

YOU KNOW?

TO HAVE ALL THAT JIM HAD --

MOST OF WHAT HE HAD IS WHAT

MANY PEOPLE WOULD STRIVE

FOR.

YOU KNOW, HE HAD FAME.

HE HAD FORTUNE.

HE HAD THE ADULATION OF

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF

FANS.

HE HAD THE SELF-SATISFACTION

OF DOING SOMETHING, BEING

ABLE TO PRODUCE SOMETHING

FROM HIS OWN ABILITIES AND

TALENTS THAT PLEASED MANY.

AND YET NO CONTENTMENT.

THERE IS A HALLOWNESS THAT

EXISTS INSIDE OF US UNTIL WE

COME TO THE ONE WHO CREATED

US TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP

WITH HIM.

IT'S SAID THAT THAT

HALLOWNESS IS THERE IN A

FORM THAT ONLY HE CAN FILL.

SO TODAY I WANT TO COME AND

SAY TO YOU EXACTLY WHAT

JIM'S 4-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER

SAID TO HIM.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING OUT

THERE?

WHAT ARE YOU DOING OUT THERE

TRYING TO FILL YOUR LIFE

WITH STUFF THAT IS

FLEETING?

IT DOESN'T EVEN LAST.

IT IS HALLOW.

IT'S SHALLOW.

THERE IS NO SATISFACTION IN

IT.

WHEN THERE IS AN ENTIRE

TABLE SET BEFORE YOU BY THE

ONE WHO CREATED YOU THAT

WILL SATISFY, A TABLE OF

GOOD THINGS, A TABLE OF

FORGIVENESS, REDEMPTION, NEW

BEGINNINGS, LOVE, PEACE,

THAT PEACE YOU'VE BEEN

SEARCHING FOR DEEP IN YOUR

HEART.

IT'S AVAILABLE TO YOU.

HOW DO YOU GET IT?

NOT BY BEING GOOD ENOUGH.

NOT BY MEASURING UP.

NOT BY HAVING TO MEET SOME

STANDARD OR SOME GREAT

EQUATION OF CHARACTER OR

GOODNESS.

WE'RE A MESS, YOU AND I.

AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED A

SAVIOR.

WE ARE SINNERS, AND GOD KNEW

THAT AND LOVED US ENOUGH TO

SEND HIS SON.

SO THAT WE COULD BE

REDEEMED.

WE COULD HAVE ETERNAL LIFE

WITH HIM.

BUT EVEN KNOW, IN THIS LIFE,

THE LIFE THAT HE HAS PUT US

IN TO WALK THROUGH, TO BE

REFINED IN, TO FIND A PATH

TO HIM, EVEN NOW, HE SAYS,

HE CAME THAT WE MIGHT HAVE

LIFE AND HAVE IT

ABUNDANTLY.

IF YOU'RE NOT EXPERIENCING

THAT, YOU'RE MISSING THE

BOAT.

TODAY YOU CAN CHANGE THAT.

GOD LOVES YOU.

HE HAS BEEN WAITING FOR YOU

ALL OF THIS TIME.

THE QUESTION IS: WILL YOU

COME?

WILL YOU COME TO THE PLACE

THAT JIM CAME TO WHERE HE

SAID, GOD, I'M AT THE END OF

MY ROPE.

I DON'T WANT THIS ANYMORE.

I WANT YOU.

YOU SEE, GOD IS A

GENTLEMAN.

HE IS NOT GOING TO FORCE HIS

WAY INTO YOUR LIFE.

BUT OH, HOW HE LOVES YOU AND

OH, HOW HE WILL COME IF YOU

ASK HIM.

SO SAY, I AM A SINNER IN

NEED OF A SAVIOR.

SAVE ME.

SAVE ME.

MEAN IT WITH ALL OF YOUR

HEART.

INVITE HIM INTO THE DEEPEST

PART OF YOUR LIFE.

BE HONEST ABOUT THE THINGS

THAT NEED DEALING WITH AND

CHANGING IN YOUR LIFE.

AND THEN ASK HIS HOLY SPIRIT

TO COME INTO YOU.

TO TOUCH YOU, TO EMPOWER

YOU, TO HELP YOU SEE WHAT

NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.

AND THEN BE FILLED WITH THE

LOVE OF GOD TODAY AND KNOW

YOU HAVE A NEW BEGINNING.

MAYBE YOU HAVE A NEED IN

YOUR LIFE THAT YOU WOULD

LIKE TO PRAY WITH SOMEONE

ABOUT.

THERE IS A TOLL-FREE NUMBER

THAT HAS JUST COME UP ON

YOUR SCREEN.

1-800-759-0700.

THERE IS A FRIEND ON THE

OTHER END OF THAT LINE.

NO JUDGMENT.

IT IS A PERSON JUST LIKE YOU

AND ME WHO CAME TO THE END

OF THEMSELVES, AND INVITED

CHRIST TO CHANGE THEIR

LIVES.

AND THEY'RE HERE TODAY

BECAUSE THEY'D LIKE TO PRAY

WITH YOU.

IF YOU'VE ALREADY PRAYED

THAT PRAYER, THEN WE HAVE A

PACKET FOR YOU.

IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."

IT TALKS ABOUT HOW DO YOU

GROW NOW?

HOW DO YOU WALK WITH GOD?

HOW DO YOU DEVELOP AN

ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH

HIM?

WHEN YOU CALL THE NUMBER,

ASK FOR THE "NEW DAY" PACKET

AND WE'LL GET IT OUT TO YOU

RIGHT AWAY.

PAT?

Pat: THANKS, TERRY.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I

DON'T KNOW IF YOU LIKE PRO

WRESTLING, BUT SOME YEARS

AGO I WENT TO A WRESTLING

MATCH.

I WAS JUST A KID AND THEY

TOOK ME TO PRO WRESTLING.

AND THERE WAS SOMEBODY

CALLED THE GREEK GOD, I

THINK IT WAS.

AND ANOTHER ONE CALLED "

"DROP KICK HARRY," AND THERE

WAS SOME WILD WOMAN BEHIND

ME SCREAMING, DROP KICK

HIM.

KICK HIM IN THE HEAD.

THESE FANS GET KIND OF

WILD.

WE'VE GOT ONE OF THE LEGENDS

OF THE WRESTLING RING, AND

HE WRESTLED HULK HOGAN, AND

HE WAS BY FAR THE GREATEST

ADVERSARY.

AND LEX LUGER IS GOING TO

TALK ABOUT HIS WRESTLING

WITH THE DEVELO DEVIL WHEN

WE RETURN.

CRIERCH

WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700

CLUB."

EGYPTIAN SECURITY FORCES

HAVE RETAKEN A TOWN THAT HAS

BEEN RULED BY RADICAL

ISLAMISTS SINCE JULY 3rd.

THE CITY OF DELGA IS HOME TO

MORE THAN 20,000

CHRISTIANS.

IN THE 11 WEEKS THE ISLAMIC

MILITANTS RULED THAT CITY,

THEY RANSACKED AND BURNED

CHURCHES AND FORCED

CHRISTIANS TO PAY THEM

PROTECTION MONEY.

AT LEAST TWO CHRISTIANS WHO

REFUSED TO PAY THE ISLAMIC

JIJA TAX WERE KILLED.

ONE OF THE CHURCHES THAT WAS

BURNED IS BELIEVED TO BE

MORE THAN 1600 YEARS OLD.

THE SECURITY FORCES ARRESTED

56 PEOPLE FOR ASSAULTS ON

POLICE FORCES, AS WELL AS

THE TAX ON GOVERNMENT AND

RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.

A CATHOLIC PRIEST IS BEING

TREATED AT A TANZANIAN

HOSPITAL, FOLLOWING AN ACID

ATTACK IN ZANZIBAR.

HE THE ATTACK OCCURRED IN A

CROWDED PART OF TOWN FRIDAY

AFTERNOON.

THIS IS THE FIFTH ACID

ATTACK IN ZANZIBAR IN

SEPTEMBER.

JUST LAST MONTH AN ASSAILANT

THREW ACID IN THE FACE OF

TWO YOUNG VOLUNTEERS.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST NEWS BY GOING TO OUR

WEBSITE AT CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Pat: WE READ FROM GREEK

MYTHOLOGY THAT TELLS A STORY

ABOUT A HUNTER NAMED

NARSISUS.

HE WAS INFATUATED WITH HIS

OWN BODY AND HE DIED BECAUSE

OF IT.

THOUSANDS OF YEARS AFTER

THAT STORY WAS TOLD.

NARSISUS WAS REBORN IN THE

FORM OF A PRO WRESTLER NAMED

LEX LUGER.

AND ODDLY ENOUGH, LEX NEARLY

SHARED THE SAME FATE AS

NARSISUS.

Reporter: WRESTLING

FANS KNOW HIM AS LEX LUGER,

THE TOTAL PACKAGE.

THIS WRESTLING SUPERSTAR

SPENT 15 YEARS IN THE RING

AND WON THE WORLD HEAVY

WEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP BELT

THREE TIMES.

HIS REAL NAME IS MARY FOLD.

LEX LUGER QUICKLY BECAME ONE

OF THE PREMIER NAMES AND PRO

WRESTLING.

WITH THAT RISE TO THE TOP

CAME A LIFESTYLE TO MATCH.

IT HAPPENED ALL SO FAST.

THERE WAS ALMOST LITERALLY A

PARTY EVERY NIGHT IF YOU

WANTED TO.

Reporter: LEX WAS ON

THE ROAD SOMETIMES 300 DAYS

A YEAR AND LED A DOUBLE

LIFE.

HE MANAGED KEEPING HIS PARTY

LIFE HIDDEN FROM HIS WIFE

AND CHILDREN, BE HAD TROUBLE

SEPARATING THE MAN FROM HIS

IMAGE.

IN HIS BOOK, "WRESTLING WITH

THE DEVIL," LEX SHARES HOW

HE DISCOVERED THE REAL

MEANING OF THE DEVIL.

Pat: THE TOTAL

PACKAGE.

LEX IS HERE WITH US NOW.

WELCOME TO "THE 700 CLUB."

THANK YOU, SIR.

IT IS AN HONOR TO MEET YOU,

AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME

ON THE SHOW.

Pat: YOU HAVE A GERMAN

NAME, AND LEX LUGER WAS THE

ONE IN BATMAN, BUT YOU USED

THE GERMAN PISTOL.

WE DID.

Pat: I READ YOUR BOOK.

THANK YOU.

Pat: YOU TALKED ABOUT

TRAINING WITH THIS JAPANESE

GUY, AND I WORK OUT, BUT

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE.

YOU SAID YOU DID 30 SETS OF

30 PUSHUPS A DAY, AFTER YOU

HAD RUN FIVE MILES TO GET

WARMED UP.

IS THAT TRUE?

YES.

IN THE FLORIDA HEAT AND

HUMIDITY.

WE DID WHAT YOU CALL A HINDU

SQUAT.

Pat: HOW DID YOU DO

THAT?

HE WANTED TO TEST YOU AND

SEE IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO

BE A PRO WRESTLER BECAUSE HE

ACTUALLY TOOK YOU IN THE

RING.

HE WAS A WONDERFUL GUY.

Pat: BUT HE ALMOST

KILLED YOU.

LITERALLY.

Pat: 30 PUSHUPS FOR THE

AVERAGE PERSON IS A HUGE

DEAL.

DROP AND GIVE ME 10 OR 20 IS

THE OLD MARINE THING.

YOU DID 30 AND THEN YOU HAD

TO DO IS 20 MORE TIMES.

IT IS I DO 30, YOU DO 30,

AND I DO 30, AND YOU DO 30.

IT WAS BACK-TO-BACK.

SO IT WAS A CUMULATIVE

EFFECT.

Pat: YOU HAD THE BEST

BODY IN ALL OF WRESTLING --

I DON'T KNOW.

IT WAS SUBJECTIVE.

BUT IT WAS MY CALLING CARD,

YES, SIR.

Pat: YOU'RE SO FIT AND

BUFF.

BUT THE WHOLE THING IS A

THEATRICAL SHOW.

HOW CAN YOU GET TO BE

CHAMPION IF IT IS A SHOW.

YOU ARE THE CHAMPION, BUT

HOW DID YOU GET THIS WAY?

THERE ARE PEOPLE MUCH

SMARTER THAN I THAT

DETERMINE IT, BASED ON CROWD

REACTION, THE RATINGS.

DO THE SHOWS GO UP OR DOWN

WHEN YOU WALK OUT THERE.

THE FANS REALLY DO PICK THE

STARS.

Pat: BUT IT DOESN'T

HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH

BEATING PEOPLE?

A CHAMPIONSHIP, USUALLY THE

TEAM WINS --

WRESTLING IS SCRIPTED.

IT IS ENTERTAINMENT, YES,

SIR.

Pat: SOMEBODY WOULD BE

COMING AT YOU AND HE WOULD

BE GLARING, AND IT WAS ALL

AN ACT?

HOPEFULLY, YES.

SOMETIMES WE WOULD GET MAD

AT EACH OTHER AND THINGS

WENT WRONG.

BUT FOR THE MOST TIME WE

WORKED IN THE SPIRIT OF

COOPERATION.

Pat: ARE YOU ALL

FRIENDS?

YOU GUYS SCREAM AND YELL AT

EACH OTHER, BUT IT WAS ALL

PUT UP.

YOU DIDN'YOU HAD TO BE

NASTY TO EACH OTHER?

YES, ON CAMERA.

IT IS A LOT OF FUN.

I MEAN, IT IS A FORM OF

ENTERTAINMENT.

WE ARE MOSTLY ALL FRIENDS

OUTSIDE OF THE RING.

THE WRESTLING PART OF MY

LIFE WAS WONDERFUL.

I HAD 15 YEARS AND TRAVELLED

ALL OVER THE WORLD.

MET INCREDIBLE PEOPLE AND

SAW INCREDIBLE THINGS.

WRESTLING FANS ARE GREAT,

AND THE EVENTS ARE FUN.

IT'S A LOT OF FUNS.

Pat: DON'T THESE FANS

KNOW IT IS THEATRICAL?

MOST OF THEM DO.

I HAD A LITTLE OLD LADY IN

SOUTH CAROLINA, AND SHE

ALWAYS TRIED TO HIT ME WITH

HER CANE.

FOR SOME IT WAS REAL.

Pat: ALL OF THAT STUFF

WITH CHAIRS AND THEY BEAT

WITH CHAIRS AND THROW PEOPLE

OUT OF THE RING.

THAT'S REAL.

WE GET INJURED ALL OF THE

TIME.

IT IS DEFINITELY NOT A DESK

JOB.

YOU CAN'T PRETEND TO GO

THROUGH A TABLE TO A CEMENT

FLOOR.

WE LAND AND GET HURT ALL OF

THE TIME.

WE TRY TO PROTECT EACH

OTHER, BUT WE GET INJURED

ALL OF THE TIME.

Pat: SOMEHOW ALONG THE

WAY, SOMEBODY GOT KILLED AND

YOU DID TIME.

WHAT HAPPENED?

I WAS LIVING THE DOUBLE

LIFE, WHICH WE DID IN THE

LEAD-IN.

I WAS MAKING A LOT OF BAD

CHOICES.

WE REAP WHAT WE SOW, AND

EVENTUALLY OUR SINS WILL

COME FIND US.

IT ALL CAME RUNNING DOWN ON

ME.

I HAD A MISTRESS, AND I WAS

LEADING A DOUBLE LIFE.

HER NAME WAS MISS ELIZABETH

AND SHE DIED OF A DRUG

OVERDOSE.

Pat: BUT THEY THOUGHT

YOU KILLED HER?

THEY DID.

BASED ON MY LIFESTYLE AT THE

TIME, THEY LOOKED INTO IT.

THAT WASN'T THE CASE, BUT AT

FIRST IT HAD EVERYTHING

EVERYBODY THOUGHT.

INDIRECTLY, I DID HAVE A

ROLE.

I WAS LEADING A LIFESTYLE,

MAKING SO MANY BAD DECISIONS

WITH DRUGS AND ALCOHOL.

DID I MAKE HER TAKE DRUGS

AND ALCOHOL?

NO.

BUT WE HAVE AN INFLUENCE FOR

THOSE AROUND US.

SO I DO HAVE SOME

RESPONSIBILITY.

Pat: YOU WENT TO PRISON

AND THEN THEY PUT YOU ON

PAROLE, AND THEN THEY GOT

YOU FOR PAROLE VIOLATION.

WHAT DID YOU DO?

I JUST WASN'T LISTENING.

I THOUGHT I DIDN'T HAVE

ACCOUN ACCOUNTABILITY TO

ANYONE AT THAT POINT IN MY

LIFE.

I HAD A SENSE OF ENTITLEMENT

SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO PLAY BY

THE RULES.

IT WAS THE POINT FINALLY

WHERE ONE LAST TIME I WAS IN

JAIL, AND I MET A JAIL

CHAPLAIN THAT CHANGED MY

LIFE FOREVER.

Pat: YOU WERE SO

PRETTY, THOUGH.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT

PRETTY, BUT DEFINITELY HAD

THE LOOK THAT WRESTLING

LIKED.

Pat: AND YOU HAD FANS

STANDING 10 DEEP WAITING TO

GET YOUR AUTOGRAGH.

WRESTLING IS VERY

POPULAR.

IT IS HARD TO HANDLE.

WHEN YOU'RE LOST AND NOT

STAND O STANDING ON THE

ROCK, THAT COULD BE VERY

DIFFICULT TO HANDLE.

THE FIRST TIME I READ

ECCLESIASTES, ABOUT CHASING

FAME, I CRIED.

I THOUGHT, THAT WAS MY WHOLE

LIFE FOR 47 YEARS.

Pat: SO A GUY COMES,

AND YOU HAD AN INJURY, AND

YOU'RE STILL SUFFERING FROM

ONE.

AND THEY THOUGHT YOU WERE

GOING TO BE A PARAPLEGIC FOR

LIFE.

YES, SIR.

Pat: WHAT HAPPENED?

IT WAS A RESULT OF MY

WRESTLING AND FOOTBALL

ACCUMULATIVELY OVER THE

YEARS.

AND I INJURED MY SPINAL

CORD, C-5/C-6, AND THEY

THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO BE

PARALYZED.

MY HEAD TURNED, AND I CUT

THE SPINAL BLOOD TO MY NECK

AREA.

AND I WOKE UP THE NEXT

MORNING AND I WAS PARALYZED

FROM THE NECK DOWN.

THANKFULLY, THE WAY THE

STORY GOES, I HAD BEEN SAVED

FOR A YEAR AND A HALF, AND

GOD COMFORTED ME IN THAT

ROOM BECAUSE I WAS THERE AND

I WAS PANICKED AND I

COULDN'T BREATHE.

GOD RELAXED ME AND COMFORTED

ME.

EVEN THAT JOURNEY, THE WIND

COMES AND IT RAINS ON US

ALL, BUT NOW YOU HAVE GOD IN

YOUR LIFE TO LEAD YOU

THROUGH IT AND WALK YOU

THROUGH IT.

Pat: AND HE TOUCHES

YOU?

HE DID.

AND IN THAT ROOM, AND MY

RECOVERY -- I WAS GIVEN A 0

TO 5% CHANCE OF ANY

MOVEMENT, AND NOW I LIVE ON

MY OWN.

I DRIVE MY OWN CAR.

I CAN WALK FOR SHORT

DIFFERENCES.

I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THE

SUPER NATURAL RECOVERY GOD

HAS GIVEN ME SO FAR.

Pat: YOU WERE THE WILD

MAN, AND YOU TOUR UP ROOMS,

AND SOMEHOW IN PRISON, A GUY

NAMED STEPHEN LEAVES A

BOOK.

HE ACTUALLY LEFT A

BIBLE.

I TRIED READING IT AND IT

DIDN'T MAKE ANY SENSE TO ME

AT THE TIME.

WHEN I GOT OUT OF JAIL, HE

PURSUED ME.

I WAS LIVING IN ATLANTA,

GEORGIA, AND HE HUNTED ME

DOWN AND SAID HE WANTED ME

TO TRAIN HIM.

AND I STARTED TRAINING HIM.

AND I STARTED HANGING OUT

WITH A PASTOR AND A JAIL

CHAPLAIN, AND HE JUST BECAME

MY FRIEND.

WE KNOW IT NOW AS RELATIONAL

TESTIMONY.

AND I STARTED ASKING ABOUT

GOD AND RELIGION.

AND EVENTUALLY I SAW A TRACK

IN HIS CAR, "GOD IS THE

SIMPLE PATH OF SALVATION."

AND APRIL 23rd OF '06, AND

MY LIFE HAS CHANGED.

Pat: IT IS GREAT TO

HAVE YOU WITH US.

THANK YOU.

Pat: THIS BOOK IS QUITE

A STORY, "WRESTLING WITH THE

DEVIL."

THE PRETTIEST BOY IN ALL OF

PRO WRESTLING.

I WAS 8 OR 9 YEARS OLD AND

THEY TOOK ME TO A PRO MATCH,

AND IT WAS THE GREEK ADONIS

VERSUS DROP-KICK HARRY.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD

OF THEM --

I HAVE.

THAT WERE LEGENDS.

Pat: AND THIS WOMAN

BEHIND ME WAS SAYING, KICK

HIM IN THE HEAD.

PLEASE, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO

BE A SWEET LITTLE LADY.

THEY ARE SOME OF THE BEST

FANS ON THE PLANET.

THEY'RE GREAT.

Pat: I HOPE YOU FOLLOW

YOUR LATEST ROUND, WHICH IS

YOUR FIGHT WITH THE DEVIL.

LEX LUGER, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, THE TRUTH FROM

BEHIND-THE-SCENES ABOUT

PROFESSIONAL WRESTLING.

TERRY.

Terry: FOR MORE WITH

THE TOTAL PACKAGE, GO TO

cbn.com FOR MORE OF THE

INTERVIEW.

CLICK ON "IN THE GREEN ROOM"

LINK.

AND STILL TO COME, WE HAVE

YOUR QUESTIONS FROM OUR IN

BOX.

ERIC SAYS, ACTS 16 TELLS US

NOT TO EAT MEAT THAT HAS

BEEN STRANGLED.

AREN'T THE CHICKENS ALSO

KILLED IN THIS MANNER?"

DON'T GO AWAY.

CRIERCH

Terry: WELCOME BACK TO

"THE 700 CLUB."

WE HAVE SOME TIME TO ANSWER

YOUR E-MAILS, SO LET'S GO

INTO THE "BRING IT ON"

SEGMENT TOGETHER.

THIS IS FROM ERIC, PAT, WHO

SAYS, "ACTS 16 TELLS US NOT

TO EAT MEAT THAT HAS BEEN

STRANGLED.

AREN'T THE CHICKENS KILLED

IN THIS MANNER?"

Pat: ACTS 15 DOESN'T

TELL US WOULD YO ABOUT A

CHURCH.

WHAT THEY DID WAS SEND A

LETTER TO THIS GROUP OF

GENTILE BELIEVERS, AND SAID

I DONT WANI DON'T WANT YOU

TO EAT BLOOD, WHICH IS

IMPORTANT, AND THINGS

STRANGLED, WHICH IS KIND OF

LIKE A DEAD BODY OUT THERE.

WE'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE

DIETARY LAWS.

JESUS SAID EVERYTHING IS

CLEAN.

YOU LOOK AT PETER, GOING TO

THE HOUSE OF CORNELIUS, AND

THERE WAS A SHEET THAT SAID,

DON'T CALL WHAT I HAVE

CLEANSED UNCLEAN.

JESUS SAID, LOOK, WHAT COMES

INTO YOUR MOUTH DOESN'T

AFFECT YOU AT ALL.

BUT WHAT DEFILES A MAN IS

WHAT COMES OUT OF HIS

HEART.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT STRANGLED

CHICKENS.

I MEAN, WE'RE NOT UNDER THE

DIETARY LAWS ANYMORE.

Terry: OKAY, THIS IS

MARK WHO SAYS, "MY PASTOR

FEELS THAT HEALINGS,

MIRACLES, AND SPEAKING IN

TONGUES

ENDED WITH THE

APOSTLES.

IS THERE ANY POINT IN

SCRIPTURE WHERE THIS IS

MENTIONED?

THE BIBLE SAYS THE HOLY

SPIRIT GIVES GIFTS TO PEOPLE

IN THIS AREA."

Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS IN

HEBREWS 13: 8, "JESUS CHRIST

IS THE SAME YESTERDAY,

TODAY, AND FOREVER."

HIS POWER DIDN'T STOP.

AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEHOW

THERE WAS ALL THESE MIRACLES

FOR 100 YEARS, AND SUDDENLY

GOD SAYS, OKAY, THAT'S THE

END OF IT, BOOM, IT'S ALL

GONE -- NOT TRUE.

PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HAVING

MIRACLES, THEY'VE SEEN

VISIONS, THEY HAVE HAD

PEOPLE RAISED FROM THE DEAD,

AND IT HAS GONE ON

THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE HISTORY

OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH.

SO THESE PASTORS THAT SAY

THAT DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY

ARE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE WE

SEE IT HERE.

WE'VE HAD -- I WANT TO GET

THE RIGHT NUMBER --

93 MILLION PRAYER REQUESTS.

AND OF THOSE, WE HAVE

SEVERAL MILLION PEOPLE WHO

SAID WE'VE BEEN HEALED.

WE'VE HAD DELIVERANCE, WE'VE

HAD FINANCIAL MIRACLES.

GOD IS THE SAME YESTERDAY,

TODAY, AND FOREVER.

HE DIDN'T STOP AFTER 100

YEARS.

ALL RIGHT.

Terry: OKAY, THIS IS

LORI WHO SAYS, "MY HUSBAND

OF TWO YEARS LIES

CONSTANTLY.

IN THOSE TWO YEARS, HE HAS

HAD 20 JOBS AND HAS BEEN

ADDICTED TO PORNOGRAPHY.

HE WON'T ADMIT ANY OF THIS

WHEN I TRY TO TALK TO HIM

ABOUT THESE THINGS.

HIS OWN FAMILY SAYS HE HAS

ALWAYS BEEN THIS WAY, BUT

CHOSE NOT TO TELL ME WHEN WE

GOT MARRIED.

WE ARE FINANCIALLY RUINED.

I HAVE TWO BOYS FROM A

PREVIOUS MARRIAGE, AND I

WORRY ABOUT THEM.

I LOVE MY HUSBAND AND I TOOK

A LOW-PAYING JOB TO SUPPORT

HIM, BUT WHAT ELSE CAN I

DO?"

Pat: IN THE LAW, THERE

IS SOMETHING CALLED FRAUD IN

THE INDUCEMENT.

AND IF THERE IS FRAUD IN THE

INDUCEMENT TO ENTER INTO A

CONTRACT, THAT CONTRACT

REALLY ISN'T BINDING.

I THINK YOU'VE BEEN

DEFRAUDED.

I THINK THIS GUY HID FROM

YOU THE KIND OF PERSON HE

IS.

HE IS ADDICTED TO

PORNOGRAPHY, WHICH IN MY

OPINION IS A TYPE OF

ADULTERY.

HE IS DOING TERRIBLE

THINGS.

IT IS NOT GOOD FOR YOUR

CHILDREN.

YOUR CHILDREN ARE IN AN

UNSAFE CONDITION.

I THINK -- I KNOW I'M

SOUNDING LIKE A PHILADELPHIA

LAWYER, BUT I THINK YOU CAN

SAY THIS MARRIAGE IS NULL

AND VOID.

EVEN THOUGH IT HAS BEEN

CONSUMMATED, I THINK IT IS

NULL AND VOID.

IT IS YOUR SECOND MARRIAGE,

ANYHOW, AFTER ALL.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED

ON THE FIRST MARRIAGE.

SO MAYBE YOU WEREN'T FREE TO

GET MARRIED THE SECOND

TIME.

I DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE

CIRCUMSTANCES.

IT SEEMS LIKE TO ME YOU

COULD HAVE A VERY GOOD CASE

BEFORE THE LORD TO SAY,

LORD, I CAN'T STAND THIS

ANYMORE.

Terry: SHE SAYS HE

LOVES HER HUSBAND --

Pat: I'M SO GLAD YOU

LOVE HIM, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT

YOUR CHILDREN IN THAT SORT

OF ENVIRONMENT.

Terry: YOU'RE GOING TO

RAISE ANOTHER GENERATION OF

ISSUES.

Pat: AND HE'LL TEACH

THEM TO LIE AND BE TERRIBLE

PEOPLE.

THAT'S ALL OUR TIME.

Terry: YOU'RE RIGHT.

Pat: I WISH WE HAD MORE

QUESTIONS, BUT I HAVEN'T GOT

TIME FOR THEM.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

WITH US ON "THE 700 CLUB."

TOMORROW, AN NBA STAR'S

CAREER IS DERAILED BY A

CRIPPLING SEX ADDICTION.

MY, WHAT KIND OF OF A SHOW

HAVE WE GOT HERE.

WE WILL SEE WHAT GOT HIS

BACK ON THE COURT.

THAT'S NOT THE LEGAL COURT,

BUT THE BASKETBALL COURT.

THESE WORDS FROM

PHILLIPIANS: "I PRESS

TOWARDS THE GOAL FOR THE

PRIZE OF THE UPWARD CALL OF

GOD IN CHRIST JESUS."

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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