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700 Club Interactive: The Truth Will See You Free - Sept. 18, 2013

No family is perfect, but not every family has a secret. Hear how one woman found freedom after years of lies. Read Transcript


IS IT EVER OKAY TO LIE?

I'LL TELL IT JUST LIKE IT

IS.

FOR REAL?

FOR REAL.

AWESOME.

Reporter: HOW OLD ARE

YOU?

SERIOUSLY?

WE'LL FIND OUT WITH

COMEDIAN MICHAEL, JR. ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

Gordon: ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," WE USE

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THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

WELCOME TO "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," I'M ANDREW

KNOX.

ASK ALMOST ANYONE IF IT IS

OKAY TO LIE, AND MORE THAN

LIKELY THEY'LL SAY NO.

HOWEVER, IF YOU PRESS A

LITTLE HARDER, MANY WILL SAY

THERE ARE TIMES THAT LYING

IS JUSTIFIED.

RECENTLY COMEDIAN

MICHAEL, JR. WANTED TO KNOW

IF STRETCHING THE TRUTH IS

ACCEPTABLE, SO HE HIT THE

VIRGINIA BEACH BOARDWALK TO

FIND OUT.

MICHAEL, JR. HERE, I'M

EXCITED TO BE DOING A STREET

INTERVIEW.

ARE YOU GUYS RELATED?

MY MOM.

Reporter: THAT'S YOUR

MOM?

IS THAT WHAT SHE TOLD YOU.

Reporter: IS THAT YOUR

BABY?

SHE'S MY BABY.

Reporter: YOU MAY WANT

TO DO A D.N.A. TEST.

YOU MAY NOT BE THE MOTHER.

WHEN DO YOU THINK IT IS OKAY

TO LIE?

ANY TIME YOU THINK YOU

CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.

Reporter: I'M NOT GOING

TO JUDGE YOU.

OKAY.

Reporter: WHAT DO YOU

THINK ABOUT LYING?

LYING IS SOMETHING I'VE

GOT TO GET OVER.

BUT IT COMES IN HANDY WHEN

YOU NEED IT.

Reporter: SO WHEN IS IT

OKAY TO LIE?

I THINK IT IS NEVER OKAY

TO LIE.

I'LL TELL IT JUST LIKE IT

IS.

Reporter: FOR REAL?

FOR REAL.

Reporter: AWESOME.

HOW OLD ARE YOU?

YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU

HOW OLD I AM?

SERIOUSLY?

Reporter: I WAS JUST

TRYING TO SEE THE LIKE IT

IS.

I DON'T.

YOU NEVER ASK A WOMAN HOW

OLD THEY ARE.

HOW OLD IS YOUR DAUGHTER.

IF YOU LIE ONCE, YOU HAVE

TO LIE MANY TIMES.

Reporter: HOW DO YOU

KNOW THAT?

BECAUSE IF YOU LIE, HAVE

YOU TO HIDE ALL THAT.

Reporter: HOW DO YOU

KNOW THAT, THOUGH?

BECAUSE I USED TO LIE

BEFORE.

Reporter: YEAH.

YOU WANT TO GO HEAD AND

CONFESS SOMETHING RIGHT

NOW?

NO, THANK YOU.

I HAVEN'T LIED IN A LONG

TIME.

Reporter: UH-OH, THERE

IS ONE.

SO WHEN IS IT OKAY TO LIE TO

SOMEONE?

TECHNICALLY, NEVER,

BECAUSE IT IS DISHONEST AND

DISRESPECTFUL TO THE PERSON

WHO IS BEING LIED TO.

I DON'T THINK IT IS GOOD

TO LIE AT ALL, BUT IN SOME

CASES --

Reporter: OH, THE BUT.

BUT IN SOME CASES -- IT

IS CONSIDERED LYING WHEN YOU

DON'T TELL EVERYTHING, ALL

OF THE INFORMATION THAT YOU

MAY KNOW.

IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY IS

IN DANGER, SAY SOMEBODY IS

COMING TO YOU AND ASKING

ABOUT SOMEBODY YOU KNOW, TO

TELL THEM WHERE THE PERSON

WAS, AND YOU KNEW THAT WAS A

DANGER THERE, YOU WOULD NOT

GIVE THAT INFORMATION OUT.

Reporter: WHEN WAS THE

LAST TIME YOU TOLD A LIE?

I DON'T LIE.

Reporter: MOM, YOU

CAN'T BE ALL OVER HER WHEN I

ASK THE QUESTIONS.

I DON'T LIKE TO LIE.

I TELL THE TRUTH ALL OF THE

TIME.

I'M NOT A LIAR.

Reporter: WHAT'S A

WHITE LIE?

WHEN YOU'RE TRYING NOT TO

HURT SOMEBODY'S FEELINGS.

IF THEY GOT A BAD PERM AND

YOU TELL THEM IT'S OKAY, IT

LOOKS ALL RIGHT.

[LAUGHTER]

Reporter: YOU'RE LIKE,

IT'S OKAY COMPARED TO LAST

WEEK.

WHAT'S A WHITE LIE?

A SMALL, LITTLE LIE.

IF YOU ASKED ME IF I'VE BEEN

TO THE BEACH TODAY, AND I

SAY NO.

IT IS A LITTLE LIE.

TO ME THERE IS NO SUCH

THING AS A WHITE LIE.

A LIE IS A LIE.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING, A

LIE IS A LIE.

Reporter: A LIE IS A

LIE.

THERE ARE CERTAIN DEGREES

OF LYING.

Reporter: DEGREES OF

LYING, COOL.

WHAT UNIVERSITY TO YOU GO TO

TO GET THOSE DEGREES?

UNIVERSITY OF

CONNECTICUT.

Reporter: WHAT IS A

WHITE LIE?

A LIE THAT DOESN'T REALLY

HURT ANYBODY.

THERE IS NO WHITE LIES OR

BLACK LIES.

THERE IS LIE LYING FOR ME.

Reporter: LET YOUR YES

BE YES AND YOUR NO BE NO.

I LIKE THAT.

WHO IS YOUR FAVORITE

COMEDIAN?

UM, MICHAEL, JR.

Reporter: YES.

SAY IT WITHOUT A QUESTION

MARK, THOUGH.

LYING AIN'T COOL.

ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT

MEETING ME?

SURE.

Reporter: THANK YOU SO

MUCH.

ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY.

MICHAEL, JR. IS ONE OF

THE FUNNIEST GUYS WALKING

THE PLANET, AND WE

APPRECIATE THE LEVITY HE

BRINGS TO THE SITUATION.

MARGUERITE AND DEMEET

DIMITRIA, A LOT OF PEOPLE

WILL SAY LYING IS OKAY.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I THINK LYING IS A LIE,

BUT SOMETIMES WE DO THAT IF

WE DON'T HURT SOMEBODY.

LIKE IF YOU'RE WIFE SAYS,

HOW DO I LOOK IN THIS DRESS,

AND IT MIGHT NOT BE GOOD,

WOULD YOU TELL HER?

THAT'S A TOUGH CALL,

ESPECIALLY FOR A HUSBAND.

THAT'S A BIG ONE.

MARGUERITE?

I THINK IT IS THE WAY YOU

TELL THEM THE TRUTH.

YOU CAN TEAR SOMEBODY DOWN,

OR YOU CAN BUILD THEM UP AND

BUILD THE RELATIONSHIP.

I THINK IT IS HOW YOU SHARE

THE TRUTH.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO SHARE

THE TRUTH.

THAT IS A GREAT POINT,

TELLING THE TRUTH IN AN

EFFECTIVE WAY.

AND THE WORST PART ABOUT

LYING IS TRYING TO REMEMBER

WHAT IT WAS YOU LIED ABOUT

AND WHAT YOU SAID.

AND SO SHOW THE TRUTH IN

LOVE.

AND SOME TIMES LIES CAN

LEAD TO DEEP-SEATED FAMILY

ISSUES.

UP NEXT, WE HAVE A STORY

LIKE THAT.

A FATHER'S SECRETS KEEPS HIS

FAMILY IN THE DARK.

HOW ONE DAUGHTER'S DISCOVERY

BRINGS HIS TRUTH TO LIGHT.

AFTER THIS.

CRIERCH

Andrew: THE WOMAN IN OUR

NEXT STORY KNOWS ALL TOO

MUCH ABOUT LYING.

SHE GREW UP IDOLIZING HER

FATHER, AND ONE DAY SHE

WANTED TO BE JUST LIKE HIM.

UNTIL THE DAY IDA LEARNED

THAT HER FATHER WAS LEADING

A DOUBLE LIFE.

WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT

ABOUT MY DAD, HOW HE WAS

LYING TO US, ALL THOSE

YEARS, I WAS CRUSHED.

Andrew: STRETSECRETS AND

LIES WERE ALWAYS A PART OF

IDA JOHNSON'S LIFE.

EVERYTHING LOOKED LIKE WE

WERE A NORMAL, HAPPY FAMILY

ON THE OUTSIDE, HIDING THE

FACT THAT THERE WAS JUST A

LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SADNESS

AND ARGUING AND CONFLICT.

I DID A LOT OF MANIPULATION

TO MY FAMILY AND MY PARENTS

AND FRIENDS THAT I DIDN'T

WANT THEM TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT

THE OTHER SIDE OF ME WAS

REALLY LIKE.

I WOULD HAVE A BOYFRIEND AND

THEN ONCE THAT RELATIONSHIP

ENDED, I WOULD HAVE ANOTHER

BOYFRIEND, AND IT JUST

SEEMED LIKE I WAS ALWAYS IN

A RELATIONSHIP WITH

SOMEBODY.

I WAS ALWAYS SEEKING MORE,

SEEKING MORE, SEEKING MORE.

WHILE I WAS IN COLLEGE, I

GOT MARRIED.

I WAS 21 YEARS OLD.

AND I DIDN'T FINISH MY

COLLEGE DEGREE.

THAT LASTED FOR ABOUT TWO

YEARS OR SO.

BUT IT GOT KIND OF BORING.

AND SO I MET A MAN WHO

HAPPENED TO BE MARRIED.

IT BROKE UP MY MARRIAGE, IT

BROKE UP HIS MARRIAGE, BUT

THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE WE'RE IN

LOVE.

AND WE GOT MARRIED A FEW

YEARS LATER, AND WE HAD A

CHILD TOGETHER.

I HAD MY MARRIED LIFE, I

HAVE MY HOME, I HAVE MY

BABY, AND NOW WHAT?

WHERE WAS THE EXCITEMENT

THAT STARTED OFF WHEN I WAS

FIRST HAVING AN AFFAIR WITH

THIS GUY.

I WANTED THAT EXCITEMENT

AGAIN.

SO I WENT AND HAD ANOTHER

AFFAIR.

WHICH BROKE UP MY SECOND

MARRIAGE.

Reporter: THAT AFFAIR

DIDN'T LAST EITHER, AND

NEITHER DID THE ONE AFTER

THAT.

IDA WAS RAISING TWO KIDS AS

A SINGLE MOM, AND SHE FELT

ALONE.

ON THIS MERRY-GO-ROUND OF

RELATIONSHIP AFTER

RELATIONSHIP THAT IS NOT

WORKING, BREAKING UP OTHER

PEOPLE'S RELATIONSHIPS, AND

I LOOKED BACK AND SAID,

OKAY, THIS IS NOT WORKING.

I NEEDED PROFESSIONAL HELP.

Reporter: IDA STARTED

SEEING A THERAPIST.

AFTER DIGGING INTO HER

CHILDHOOD, SHE STARTED

REMEMBERING ODD BEHAVIOR

FROM HER FATHER.

AND AFTER NEARLY 30 YEARS,

SHE CONNECTED THE DOTS TO

HIS DARKEST SECRET.

MY DAD HAS ANOTHER

DAUGHTER FROM THIS OTHER

RELATIONSHIP, AND HE HAS

BEEN RAISING THIS OTHER

DAUGHTER, WHO IS FIVE YEARS

YOUNGER THAN ME, AND I NEVER

KNEW ABOUT IT.

AND MY MOM NEVER KNEW ABOUT

IT.

AND MY BROTHERS NEVER KNEW

ABOUT IT.

WE GOT TOGETHER AS A FAMILY,

AND WE CONFRONTED MY DAD ON

IT.

HE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME

ADMITTING IT, BUT, YEAH, HE

ADMITTED THAT, YES, HE HAS

ANOTHER FAMILY.

I WAS CRUSHED BECAUSE I

THOUGHT THE WORLD OF HIM,

AND HE DID NO WRONG IN MY

EYES.

AND I THOUGHT, HOW COULD HE

HAVE BEEN LYING TO ME ALL

THESE YEARS?

HAVING MY DAD RAISE ME IN

LYING AND DECEITFULNESS AND

STUFF, ALL OF THAT CONNECTED

ME INTO WHY I CHOSE LYING

AND DECEPTION AND

MANIPULATION.

BEING MANIPULATED AS A

CHILE CHILD, I CARRIED THAT

INTO MY ADULT LIFE.

Reporter: SEEKING MORE

HELP THAN A THERAPIST COULD

OFFER, IDA VISITED A LOCAL

CHURCH.

I WALKED IN, AND

IMMEDIATELY I FELT SO

WELCOMED AND SO LOVED AND SO

ACCEPTED.

AND I'M A SINGLE MOM WITH

TWO DAUGHTERS, WITH THE PAST

THAT I HAVE, AND THAT DAY I

HEARD THE MESSAGE, AND IT'S

A MESSAGE OF HOPE.

AND IT'S A MESSAGE ABOUT

JESUS CHRIST.

AND THAT I COULD BE A NEW

PERSON IN CHRIST, IN JESUS

CHRIST.

THAT HE COULD WASH ME SO

CLEAN THAT I WOULD BE PURE

AS THE SNOW.

AND SO THAT DAY I ACCEPTED

JESUS CHRIST AS MY LORD AND

SAVIOR.

AND I GOT TO START A BRAND

NEW LIFE.

AND IT WAS LIKE THE BEST DAY

OF MY LIFE BECAUSE I CAME

OUT OF THERE TRULY

TRANSFORMED.

I FINALLY GOT OFF THAT

MERRY-GO-ROUND.

IT WASN'T EASY, YOU KNOW.

THERE WAS STILL LITTLE

HABITS AND THINGS I HAD TO

BREAK OFF.

BUT I GAINED A WHOLE NEW WAY

OF SEEING THINGS, AND I KNEW

IF I WAS GOING TO BE A TRUE

FOLLOWER OF HIM, THAT I

NEEDED TO FORGIVE MY DAD FOR

HIS SINS, TOO, AND

ESPECIALLY FOR ALL OF THE

LYING AND DECEITFULNESS THAT

HE RAISED US IN.

I WENT TO HIM AND TOLD HIM

SO.

I TOLD HIM, I'M A NEW

PERSON, I'VE GIVEN MY LIFE

OVER TO JESUS, AND BECAUSE

OF THAT, I CAN FORGIVE YOU

FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE

DONE, AND WE CAN START NEW.

THE THING ABOUT IT IS MY DAD

CONTINUED TO LIVE IN THE WAY

THAT HE WAS GOING TO LIVE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S

OKAY.

BECAUSE I LOVE MY DAD, AND I

FORGIVE HIM EVERY SINGLE DAY

THAT HE LIVES IN SIN BECAUSE

JESUS CHRIST FORGIVES ME

EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT I LIVE

IN SIN.

EVERY SINGLE DAY JESUS

CHRIST FORGIVES US.

SO, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY IS A

NEW DAY IN JESUS.

Andrew: DO YOU HEAR WHAT

IDA SAID THERE?

I WAS ALWAYS SEEKING MORE.

AND THEN SHE SAID, WHAT

HAPPENED TO THE EXCITEMENT

OF THIS AFFAIR?

WHAT HAPPENED TO THE

EXCITEMENT AND THE THRILL OF

MY SIN?

IT'S GONE.

SIN HAS PLEASURE FOR A

SEASON.

SOMETIMES A VERY SHORT

SEASON.

BUT ULTIMATELY IT LEAVES US

EMPTY.

AND IDA TURNED AROUND ONE

DAY AND SAID EVERYTHING I

USED TO ENJOY DOING AND GOT

SATISFACTION AND PLEASURE

OUT OF IS GONE.

THE THRILL IS NO LONGER

THERE.

WHERE IS THE AWARD?

THE APOSTLE PAUL TALKED

ABOUT THIS IN ROMANS.

ROMANS 6: "WHEN YOU WERE

SLAVES TO SIN, YOU WERE FREE

FROM THE CONTROL OF

RIGHTEOUSNESS.

WHAT BENEFIT DID YOU REAP AT

THAT TIME FROM THE THINGS

YOU ARE NOW ASHAMED OF?

THOSE THINGS RESULT IN

DEATH."

HE CALLS US SLAVES TO SIN.

IS THERE SOMETHING IN YOUR

LIFE THAT YOU FEEL YOUR A

SLAVE TO?

IT COULD BE ALCOHOL OR

PORNOGRAPHY OR DRUG

ADDICTION, OR MAYBE YOU'RE

HAVING AFFAIRS AS WELL.

BUT YOU'RE A SLAVE TO IT.

IT IS CONTROLLING YOU.

THE APOSTLE PAUL NOTED IT

LEAVES US EMPTY.

AND HE ADDS, WHAT BENEFIT IS

IT GIVING TO US?

WHAT ARE WE REALLY GETTING

OUT OF THIS?

NOTHING.

IT LEAVES US EMPTY.

IDA TALKED ABOUT ISAIAH,

ISAIAH 1: 18: "THOUGH YOUR

SINS ARE LIKE SCARLET, THEY

SHALL BE AS WHITE AS SNOW.

THOUGH THEY ARE AS RED AS

CRIMSON, THEY SHOULD BE LIKE

WOOL."

AND THAT HAPPENS WHEN WE

ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS OUR

SAVIOR.

IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT THE

FIRST SNOW OF THE YEAR IS

ESPECIALLY BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE

THE GROUND IS COVERED WITH

THIS BEAUTIFUL WHITE, FRESH

SNOW, AND IT COVERS THE

DECAY OF THE LAND.

IT COVERS DECAYING LEAVES

AND DYING GRASS.

AND THAT FRESH SNOW COVERS

THE DEATH.

BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS

CHRIST DOES MORE THAN

COVER.

IT REMOVES THE STAIN OF OUR

SIN.

AND IT STARTS WITH ACCEPTING

JESUS AS YOUR SAVIOR

SAVIOR.

I ENCOURAGE YOU IF YOU'RE

STRUGGLING IN SIN, IF YOU'VE

COME TO A POINT WHERE YOU

SAY ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

IT IS TIME TO MOVE ON.

I'M NOT BENEFITING FROM

THIS.

I'M LOSING MY FAMILY.

I'M LOSING MY HAPPINESS.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PRAY WITH

ME AND SEEK JESUS CHRIST AS

YOUR SAVIOR AND START A

RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS.

AND WATCH HIM FILL YOUR LIFE

WITH SATISFACTION AND WITH

WHOLENESS, AND WITH A LOVE

THAT IS REALLY HARD TO

COMPREHEND UNLESS YOU'VE

EXPERIENCED FOR YOURSELF.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO PRAY WITH

ME NOW.

DEAR, JESUS, I'M BURDENED

WITH SIN, I'M A SLAVE TO

SIN.

I'M NOT PERFECT, NOR WILL I

EVER BE.

BUT, FATHER, I ASK YOU TO

HELP ME TODAY, TO RID MYSELF

OF WHAT'S WEIGHING ME DOWN

AND WHAT'S CONTROLLING ME.

HEAVENLY FATHER, I DESIRE TO

FOLLOW YOU, AND THE SIN I'M

STRUGGLING WITH THAT I'M A

SLAVE TO, I LAY IT AT THE

CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST.

AND, JESUS, I ASK YOU NOW TO

FILL ME WITH YOUR HOLY

SPIRIT, LEAD ME, AND GUIDE

ME, AND HELP ME, LORD, TO

STAY AWAY FROM WHAT IS

BURDENING ME.

AND I ASK YOU TO FILL MY

LIFE WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT OF

GOD.

AND I ACCEPT YOU AS MY

SAVIOR, JESUS, TODAY, HERE

AND NOW.

WE PRAY THIS IN JESUS'

NAME.

AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, WE

WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM

YOU.

WE WOULD LOVE YOU TO SHARE

IT WITH US.

OUR PRAYER STAFF IS WAITING

FOR YOUR CALL.

GIVE US A CALL.

IT IS A TOLL-FREE NUMBER,

1-888-777-1999.

LET'S SOMEONE KNOW YOU JUST

PRAYED, AND WE'VE GOT SOME

MATERIAL WE CAN SEND YOU AS

WELL.

WE WANT TO REJOICE WITH

YOU.

UP NEXT, A WOMAN WITH

INCURABLE PAIN THAT GOT A

BIG SURPRISE.

MY FINGERS, THEY WEREN'T

POPPING, BUT THEY STARTED

PULSATING AND THEY WERE

MOVING AND SPASMING.

MY HAIR WAS DOING THIS, AND

I WAS NOT DOING IT.

AND I WAS, LIKE, OH!

AND I STARTED JUST WEEPING.

Andrew: HER TEARS WERE

TEARS OF JOY, AND YOU'LL SEE

WHY LATER ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

Andrew: IN INDONESIA,

CBN BROADCASTS A PROGRAM

CALLED SALUCCI, AND THAT

MEANS SOLUTIONS IN ENGLISH.

AND IT HELPED A MUSLIM WOMAN

SOLVE ONE OF THE BIGGEST

PROBLEMS OF HER LIFE.

Reporter: THIS

32-YEAR-OLD GREW UP IN

INDONESIA AS A DEVOUT

MUSLIM, BUT SHE NEVER FORGOT

HER FIRST REAL ENCOUNTER

WITH THE POWER OF JESUS

CHRIST.

THAT CAME WHEN HER MUSLIM

PARENTS TOOK HER AND HER

BROTHER TO A CHRISTIAN

MEETING TO PRAY FOR

HEALING.

RIKRIK'S YOUNGER BROTHER WAS

DEAF SINCE BIRTH.

THE MAN SAID, THOSE WHO

ARE SICK, PUT YOUR HANDS ON

THE SICK PLACE.

MY BROTHER WAS DEAF AND

MUTE.

MY MOTHER PUT HER HANDS ON

MY BROTHER'S EARS, AND MY

FATHER PUT HIS HANDS ON MY

BROTHER'S MOUTH.

AFTER THE PRAYER, MY BROTHER

TURNED TO MY PARENTS AND

SAID, MOTHER, FATHER,

SISTER.

HE WAS HEALED.

Reporter: IN SPITE OF

THE MIRACLE, SHE AND HER

FAMILY CONTINUED IN THEIR

MUSLIM FAITH.

BUT FOR THE NEXT 30 YEARS OF

HER LIFE, SHE WRESTLED

INSIDE WITH WHAT SHE HAD

WITNESSED.

SHE WONDERED IF BEING A MORE

DEVOUT MUSLIM WOULD HELP.

IN HER SEARCH, SHE CAME

VISI ACROSS A CHRISTIAN

TELEVISION PROGRAM PRODUCED

BY CBN.

ONE NIGHT, WHEN I CAME

HOME FROM WORK, I FOUND

"SALUCCI".

I HAD THIS DESIRE TO CALL

CBN TO TALK TO SOMEONE ABOUT

THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.

Reporter: SHE SAYS

CBN'S "SALUCCI" GAVE HER

HOPE AND SHE WATCHED IT

REGULARLY.

SHE WAS SURE SHE WOULD NEVER

CALL FOR PRAYER, BUT SHE

SAVED THE NUMBER IN HER

PHONE JUST IN CASE.

I WAS HESITANT TO CALL

"SALUCCI", BUT I WAS PRAYING

TO GOD.

I WONDERED IF THIS WAS A WAY

OUT OF MY PROBLEMS, BY

CALLING "SALUCCI".

Reporter: SHE FINALLY

DID CALL, AND A CBN PRAYER

COUNSELLOR PRAYED WITH HER

AND ENCOURAGED HER TO BECOME

A CHRISTIAN.

WE THEN HELPED HER FIND A

LOCAL CHURCH.

I FEEL LIKE I HAVE

TOTALLY CHANGED.

EVEN MY FRIENDS TOLD ME THAT

I HAVE CHANGED.

Reporter: SHE STILL

PRAYED FOR HER LITTLE

BROTHER AND HER PARENTS, WHO

ARE MUSLIM, AND SHE

ENCOURAGED THEM TO WATCH

CBN'S "SALUCCI" WHENEVER SHE

CAN.

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK

YOU TO CBN, THAT THEY CAN

AIR THIS PROGRAM IN

INDONESIA.

BECAUSE OF CBN NEARBY MR,

INDONESIA, I AM A NEW PERSON

TODAY.

Andrew: I LOVE HOW SHE

SAID SHE DIDN'T THINK SHE

WOULD EVER CALL, BUT SHE

WROTE THE NUMBER DOWN JUST

IN CASE.

IF YOU'RE A CBN PARTNER,

YOU'RE MAKING IT POSSIBLE

FOR PEOPLE, WHEN THEY

FINALLY COME TO THE

CONCLUSION THEY WANT TO KNOW

JESUS AS THEIR SAVIOR,

WHEREVER THEY LIVE, THEY CAN

CALL CBN.

IT IS ONLY $20 A MONTH, 65

CENTS A DAY.

AND YOU CAN HELP REBUILD

LIVES.

GIVE US A CALL,

1-888-777-1999.

OR GO TO CBN.COM.

WHEN CAROLINE GONZALES

STARTED TO HAVE PAIN IN HER

RIGHT HAND, SHE SAW A DOCTOR

WHO GAVE HER SOME SHOCKING

NEWS.

IN A FEW YEARS SHE COULD END

UP IN A WHEELCHAIR FOR

LIFE.

BUT INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING

THAT DIAGNOSIS, SHE FOUND A

CURE FOR HER DISEASE.

Reporter: A CRIPPLING

DISEASE DISFIGURED HER RIGHT

HAND.

CAROLINE GONZALES NEVER SAW

IT COMING.

IT STARTED WITH JUST

REGULAR TYPING.

IT STARTED WITH I WAS TOLD I

HAD MAYBE TENDONITIS, CARPAL

TUNNEL.

AND EVEN HEARING THAT, I

FELT, I'M HEALTHY.

WHY SHOULD THIS BE HAPPENING

TO ME?

I'M, LIKE, CARPAL TUNNEL,

WORST-CASE SCENARIO AND I'M

FINE.

I HAD THE SURGERY AND THAT'S

WHEN MY HAND SWELLED UP AND

THE SIGNS STARTED

HAPPENING.

Reporter: HER SYMPTOMS

ONLY GOT WORSE.

EXTREME PAIN, THE PAIN

THAT NEVER WENT AWAY.

THE KNUCKLES WERE BIGGER.

THEY WERE VERY RED, AND IT

WAS COLD.

Reporter: DOCTORS

DIAGNOSED HER WITH REFLEX

SYMPATHETIC DYSTROPHY.

IT IS A NERVE DISORDER THAT

OFTEN DEVELOPS AFTER AN

INJURY, CAUSING CHRONIC PAIN

AND SWELLING, AND THERE IS

NO CURE.

AND THEN THEY TOLD ME IT

IS GOING TO SPREAD.

AND SOMEONE WITH THE SAME

CONDITION IS IN A WHEELCHAIR

IN FIVE YEARS.

I SAID, I'M NOT RECEIVING

THIS.

I'M NOT RECEIVING THIS FOR

ME.

I'M NOT RECEIVING THIS FOR

ME.

I JUST WOULD CRY OUT TO THE

LORD.

I KEPT CRYING OUT, YOU'VE

HEALED ME.

YOU'VE HEALED ME.

AND MY BODY IS LYING TO ME.

BECAUSE OF GOD, I HAD HOPE,

BUT THE REALITY OF IT WAS --

IT WAS LIKE CREEPING UP ON

ME.

I WAS DEPRESSED.

I WAS SAD.

I CRIED A LOT, ALONE.

Reporter: THE

DEBILITATING CONDITION

PREVENTED CAROLINE FOR

CARING FOR HER FAMILY.

I COULDN'T WORK.

THE PAIN -- I WAS ON SO MUCH

MEDICATION.

A BAG FULL OF MEDICATION.

I COULDN'T CLEAN THE HOUSE.

THE SIMPLEST THINGS, GETTING

DRESSED, MAKING FOOD,

WASHING DISHES, I COULDN'T

DO IT.

Reporter: FOR SAFETY

REASONS, CAROLINE HAD TO

GIVE UP HER LOVE FOR RIDING

HORSES.

THE WAY HER HAND WAS

DETERIORATING, AND THE

DISEASE WAS PROGRESSING, IT

WAS REALLY HARD TO WATCH HER

SUFFER WITH THAT.

WE WERE PRAYING AND

BELIEVING THAT SHE WAS GOING

TO GET HEALED.

IT WAS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF

MY MIND, LIKE SOMETHING THAT

I KNEW WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE DIDN'T KNOW WHEN IT WAS

GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT WE KNEW

IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

Reporter: CAROLINE'S

SISTER INVITED HER TO A

REVIVAL IN FLORIDA.

THEY WERE RISING THEIR

HANDS AND PRAISING.

AND WE FELT THE PRESENCE.

IT WAS THE PRESENCE OF GOD.

IT WAS JUST THE MOST

BEAUTIFUL FEELING ANYONE

COULD EVER FEEL.

I FELT LIKE WE WERE IN THE

THRONE ROOM OF THE LORD.

I WAS JUST WORSHIPPING.

MY FINGERS, THEY WEREN'T

POPPING, BUT THEY

STARTED, LIKE, PULSATING AND

THEY WERE MOVING AND

SPASMING.

LIKE MY HAND WAS DOING THIS,

AND I WAS NOT DOING IT.

AND I WAS, LIKE, OH!

GOD WAS TAKING MY HAND AND

HE WAS UNDOING, REDOING,

CHANGING, STRAIGHTENING, AND

THE PAIN IN MY HAND, FOR THE

FIRST TIME, RIGHT THEN,

RIGHT THERE, I COULD CLOSE

AND OPEN MY HAND ALL THE

WAY, LIKE I CAN THAT ONE.

I WAS IN AWE.

I WAS, LIKE, SO EXCITED.

I WAS, LIKE, AS IF A KID

GOING TO DISNEYLAND OR A

CANDY STORE.

I'M, LIKE, OH, MY GOSH.

I'M WALKING AROUND GOING,

OH, MY GOSH.

LOOK, LOOK, LOOK!

I CAN CONTINUE TO DO THIS,

USE MY HAND.

PRAISE GOD.

AND IT IS HEALED

COMPLETELY.

WHEN SHE CAME BACK FROM

FLORIDA, SHE WAS SO FULL OF

GOD.

YOU COULD TELL SHE WAS

TOUCHED.

SHE WAS LITERALLY ALMOST

GLOWING.

SHE WAS, LIKE, OKAY, THIS IS

IT.

IT HAPPENED.

IT ACTUALLY WAS DONE.

IT WAS REALLY EXCITING.

I WAS VERY, VERY HAPPY FOR

HER, AND FOR US, FOR OUR

FAMILY.

Reporter: CAROLINE'S

LIFE IS BACK TO NORMAL IN AN

EXTRAORDINARY WAY.

I CAN TYPE.

I CAN TALK ON THE PHONE WITH

MY RIGHT HAND.

I CAN DO DISHES.

I CAN DO LAUNDRY.

I CAN RIDE.

Reporter: SHE IS EVEN

BACK ON THE LOCAL RODEO

CIRCUIT.

DOING THE THINGS THAT SHE

COULDN'T DO THAT SHE CAN DO

NOW.

WE'RE VERY, VERY THANKFUL.

IT IS A MIRACLE.

HE FIXES THINGS THAT

HUMANLY CAN'T BE FIXED.

HIS WORD SAYS THAT WE'RE

SUPPOSED TO BE WHOLE.

NOTHING BROKEN, WHOLE.

HEALED.

THAT'S WHY HE WENT ON THE

CROSS.

HE IS THE HEALER.

HE IS THE REDEEMER.

AND WE HAVE TO JUST KEEP

FAITH, NO MATTER WHAT IT

LOOKS LIKE.

NO MATTER HOW HARD IT IS,

HOW LONG IT IS, WE JUST HAVE

TO BELIEVE, BELIEVE, BELIEVE

THAT HE WILL DO IT AND IS

DOING IT, AND ACTUALLY HAS

ALREADY DONE IT.

WE JUST NEED TO GRAB ON TO

IT AND RUN.

[LAUGHTER]

Andrew: CAROLINE HAS IT

RIGHT.

SHE SAYS NO MATTER WHAT IT

LOOKS LIKE.

WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE

TRUTH ON THIS SHOW.

AND THE TRUTH IS GOD DOESN'T

LOVE US LESS IF WE'RE SICK

OR LOVE US LESS IF WE

HAVEN'T BEEN HEALED.

JESUS CHRIST DESIRES TO

HEAL.

YOU LOOK AT A STORY LIKE

CAROLINE'S, AND SHE

BELIEVED.

IF HER STORY HAS INSPIRED

YOU, LIKE IT HAS INSPIRED

ME, LET'S PRAY NOW THAT

JESUS WILL DO A MIGHTY WORK

IN YOUR LIFE.

WHATEVER YOUR NEED IS, I

ENCOURAGE YOU TO PRAY WITH

ME NOW.

JESUS, I BRING BEFORE YOU MY

NEED, IT MAY BE FINANCIAL,

IT MAYBE BE A PHYSICAL

HEALING.

IT MAY BE THE SALVATION OF A

FAMILY MEMBER.

JESUS, YOU KNOW THE NEEDS OF

THE AUDIENCE.

AND IT'S IN THE POWER OF

JESUS' NAME AND THE POWER OF

THE CROSS OF JESUS CHRIST

THAT RIGHT NOW WE PLEAD WITH

YOU, HOLY SPIRIT, TO

INTERCEDE IN YOUR LIVES AND

BRING ABOUT THE PHYSICAL

HEALING WE DESIRE, THE

FINANCIAL HEALING, THE

HEALING IN RELATIONSHIPS,

FREEDOM FROM ADDICTION.

JESUS, YOU ARE POWERFUL, AND

THE CIRCUMSTANCES I AM IN DO

NOT REVEAL HOW MUCH YOU LOVE

OR DON'T LOVE ME.

YOU LOVE US AS MUCH TODAY AS

YOU DID YESTERDAY.

JESUS, WE ASK FOR ANSWERS,

THAT YOU BRING ABOUT THE

DESIRES OF THE HEART OF THE

AUDIENCE WITH REGARD TO

HEALING, AND WE WILL GIVE

YOU THE PRAISE, AND THE

HONOR AND GLORY.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR

YOUR LOVE FOR US IN JESUS'

PRECIOUS NAME.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

BEFORE WE SAY GOOD-BYE, WE

WENT TO GO TO MARGUERITE AT

THE CHATROOM.

THIS IS FROM CHELSEA, "MY

MOM AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN

CLOSE.

SHE DID NOT HAVE THE BEST

CHILDHOOD, BUT SHE IS

COUNSELLING NOW AND SHE

WANTS TO TALK ABOUT OUR

ISSUES.

I DON'T SEE THE POINT.

IS IT IMPORTANT TO BE

INNOCEN HONEST OR JUST LET

THINGS BE?"

Andrew: YOU SAY YOU AND

YOUR MOM ARE NOT CLOSE, AND

MAYBE IT IS TIME YOU HAVE

THESE CONVERSATIONS.

A LOT HAS BEEN REVEALED TO

HER, AND SHE WANTS TO SHARE

WITH YOU.

I THINK IT IS TIME TO SIT

DOWN WITH MOM AND LET HER

TALK ABOUT WHAT HE SHE WANTS

TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM PROVERBS 12: 19:

"TRUTHFUL WORDS STAND THE

TEST OF TIME.

LIES ARE

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