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The 700 Club - Oct. 1, 2013

Former 700 Club co-host talks Ben Kinchlow is in the studio to share about his new book, "Black Yellow Dogs." Plus, Take a look back at the history of CBN on our 52nd birthday. Read Transcript


HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO US.

Pat: WE'VE PROBABLY

SEEN MORE PEOPLE COME TO THE

LORD THROUGH CBN THAN ANY

OTHER ORGANIZATION IN THE

WORLD.

Wendy: WE CELEBRATE 52

YEARS ON THE AIR.

Pat: HIS PLAN IS FOR

WORLD EVANGELIZATION, AND HE

HAS LET ME BE PART OF IT.

Wendy: PLUS A VISIT

FROM AN OLD FRIEND, ON

TODAY'S "THE 700 CLUB."

*

[APPLAUSE]

Pat: WELL, IT WAS

OCTOBER 1st, 1961, WHEN

THIS FLETCHLING TV STATION

WENT ON THE AIR, OUR FIRST

TV BROADCAST, AND TODAY WE

CELEBRATE 52 YEARS.

Terry: HAPPY BIRTHDAY

TO YOU.

Pat: TO CBN.

WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A LONG

TIME.

Terry: THAT'S RIGHT.

Pat: AND WE'RE STILL

GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME

MORE.

AND WE'VE ALSO GOT A FORMER

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES LOCKED IN A

BATTLE WITH PRESIDENT BILL

CLINTON WHO KNOWS FIRSTHAND

BY GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS.

NEWT GINGRICH WILL BE WITH

US SHORTLY.

Terry: AND WE'LL BE

SHOWING YOU HIGHLIGHTS FROM

FIVE DECADES OF TELEVISION,

PLUS LONG TIME COHOST AND

FRIEND BEN KITCHLING IS

JOINING US.

Pat: FIRST IN THE NEWS,

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

SHUTDOWN HAS BEGUN.

WE'RE ALL STILL HERE AND THE

WE'RE ALL STILL ALIVE, AND

THE COUNTRY STILL STANDS.

THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ALLIES

ACCUSE THE REPUBLICANS OF

EXTORTION AND BLACKMAIL, BUT

THE CONSERVATIVES SAY THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THEM TO

FIGHT THIS BATTLE.

CHARLENE ISRAEL HAS THE

STORY.

Reporter: MIDNIGHT CAME

AND WENT, AND STILL BITTERLY

DIVIDED LAWMAKERS REFUSE TO

BUDGE.

THE HOUSE HAS MADE ITS

DECISION VERY CLEARLY.

Reporter: ONLY HOURS

BEFORE THE DEADLINE, THE

SENATE REJECTED YET ANOTHER

HOUSE MEASURE TO KEEP THE

GOVERNMENT OPEN.

THIS TIME BY DELAYING

ENFORCEMENT OF THE

INDIVIDUAL MANDATE, THE

REQUIREMENT IN OBAMACARE

THAT ENFORCES THE UNINSURED

TO BUY INSURANCE OR PAY A

FINE.

THE PLAN WOULD ALSO HAVE

STRIPPED LAWMAKERS OF THEIR

EXEMPTION TO OBAMACARE.

AMERICANS DON'T WANT

OBAMACARE, AND THEY DON'T

BELIEVE THAT THE PRESIDENT

AND THE STAFF AND THE

CABINET NEED TO BE EXEMPTED

FROM OBAMACARE.

Reporter: WHAT WILL

THIS PARTIAL GOVERNMENT

SHUTDOWN LOOK LIKE?

FOR NOW, 800,000 GOVERNMENT

EMPLOYEES WILL BE

FURLOUGHED, BUT AIR TRAFFIC

CONTROLLERS, BORDER PATROL

AGENTS, AND MOST FOOD

INSPECTORS WILL CONTINUE TO

WORK.

THE HOUSE AND SENATE ALSO

AGREED ON A BILL TO KEEP THE

MILITARY FUNDED.

NOW THE QUESTION IS: HOW

LONG WILL THE STANDOFF

LAST?

HOW REPUBLICANS ARE PUSHING

FOR A MEETING WITH SENATE

NEGOTIATORS TO WORK OUT A

DEAL.

I'VE BEEN HOPEFUL THAT

THE SENATE WILL EXCEPT OUR

OFFER TO GIVE A CONFERENCE

AND DISCUSS THIS SO WE CAN

RESOLVE THIS FOR THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE.

Reporter: BUT SENATE

MAJORITY LEADER HARRY REID

SAYS HE'LL ONLY AGREE TO

MEET IF REPUBLICANS AGREE TO

STOP TRYING TO CHANGE

OBAMACARE.

WE WILL NOT GO TO

CONFERENCE WITH A GUN TO OUR

HEAD.

Reporter: CBN NEWS

CHIEF PLIGHT CU POLITICAL

CORRESPONDENT DAVID BRODY

SAYS THE REPUBLICANS HOPE

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL SEE

THAT IT IS NECESSARY.

ALL OF A SUDDEN, PEOPLE

WILL SAY, WAIT A MINUTE,

MAYBE IT WASN'T SUCH A BAD

IDEA THAT THE GOVERNMENT

SHUT DOWN FOR A FEW DAYS OR

WEEK BECAUSE THE OBAMACARE

IS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE.

THAT'S WHAT THE REPUBLICANS

ARE HOPING FOR.

Reporter: CHARLENE

ISRAEL, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WELL, I WORRY

ABOUT A GOVERNMENT, A

PRESIDENT WHO DEMONIZES THE

OPPOSITION, WHO HASN'T BEEN

ANYWHERE NEAR THE

NEGOTIATIONS, A SENATE THAT

REFUSES TO DISCUSS

COMPROMISE, TO EVEN TALK

ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE

PEOPLE'S HOUSE -- THE

PEOPLE'S HOUSE, THAT

REPRESENTS THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE, IN THE TERMS OF OUR

FOUNDING FATHERS, THEY

REFUSE TO NEGOTIATE.

THIS IS SOMETHING TERRIBLE.

COMING UP, WE'RE GOING TO

HAVE AN INTERVIEW WITH

FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER NEWT

GINGRICH, WHO WAS IN

CONGRESS DURING THE LAST

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

BEFORE WE BRING HIM ON,

LET'S GO TO JOHN JESSUP WITH

SOME MORE OF TODAY'S

HEADLINES.

HERE IS JOHN.

Reporter: PAT, A KEY

PIECE OF THE PRESIDENT'S

HEALTH CARE LAW ROLLS OUT

TODAY, DESPITE THE

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

ONLINE INSURANCE EXCHANGES

ARE AVAILABLE FOR MILLIONS

OF AMERICANS TO SHOP FOR

MEDICAL COVERAGE.

THE COST FOR SUBSCRIBERS

WILL VARY FROM STATE TO

STATE.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BUY OR

ARE DELAYING YOUR DECISION,

YOU WILL HAVE SIX MONTHS TO

PURCHASE A PLAN.

AFTER THAT, YOU'LL FACE A

FINE FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

THE EARLIEST GOVERNMENT WILL

TAKE EFFECT IS

JANUARY 1st.

THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN

PROMOTING HIS HEALTH CARE

PLAN IN RECENT DAYS, BUT THE

ASSOCIATED PRESS IS WARNING

BUYERS BEWARE.

IN ONE STATEMENT, HE SAID

COVERAGE WOULD PROBABLY COST

LESS THAN YOUR CELL PHONE

BILL, BUT HE WAS CITING THE

PREMIUM FOR THE CHEAPEST

PLAN.

AND CONSUMERS WHO CHOOSE IT

WILL PAY AS MUCH AS 40% OF

THEIR MEDICAL BILLS OUT OF

POCKET.

AND THE PRESIDENT ALSO

FAMOUSLY SAID THOSE WHO LIKE

THEIR HEALTH CARE PLANS

WON'T BE AFFECTED, BUT

NOTHING IN THE LAW

GUARANTEES THAT HEALTH CARE

PLANS WILL STAY THE SAME.

SOME COMPANIES HAVE ALREADY

CUT BACK COVERAGE TO AVOID

PENALTIES UNDER THE LAW.

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS

WARNING THE UNITED NATIONS

AND PRESIDENT OBAMA TO NOT

TRUST IRAN.

HE SAYS IRAN'S NEW CHARM

MASKS A DANGEROUS AGENDA.

Reporter: NETANYAHU'S

SPEECH AT THE U.N. WILL BE

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ON

THE WORLD'S STAGE.

HE FACES, I WOULD SAY,

PROBABLY THE BIGGEST

DIPLOMATIC CHALLENGE THAT I

CAN REMEMBER, CERTAINLY IN

THE LAST DECADE OR SO.

Reporter: FORMER

ISRAELI AMBASSADOR TO THE

U.S., DANNY IOLAN TELLS CBN

NEWS NETANYAHU FACES A

SKEPTICAL U.N. AFTER IRAN

LAUNCHED ITS CHARM

OFFENSIVE, DESIGNED TO

CONVINCE THE WEST THAT IRAN

DOES NOT WANT TO BUILD A

NUCLEAR BOMB.

THE CHALLENGE IS NOT FROM

THE SWEET TALK, THE CHARM

OFFENSIVE OF THE IRANIANS,

IS THE RESPONSE OF THE

INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, HOW

EASILY THEY HAVE BEEN

EMBRACING THE IRANIANS

WITHOUT CALLING THEM INTO

CHECK.

SO THIS IS THE MAIN

CHALLENGE.

IS TO TELL THE WORLD THE

TRUTH, TO SET THE RECORD

STRAIGHT, AND TO KEEP THE

PRESSURE ON IRAN.

Reporter: BEFORE HIS

U.N. SPEECH, NETANYAHU MET

WITH U.S. PRESIDENT OBAMA.

HIS MAIN TOPIC, IRAN.

OBAMA SAYS HE IS WILLING TO

TALK WITH THE ISLAMIC

REPUBLIC.

President Obama:

BECAUSE OF THE EXTRAORDINARY

SANCTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN

ABE TABLE TO PUT IN PLACE

OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS,

THE IRANIANS ARE NOW

PREPARED, IT APPEARS, TO

NEGOTIATE.

WE HAVE TO TEST DIPLOMACY.

Reporter: NETANYAHU

SAYS HE WANTS TO SEE ACTION,

NOT JUST TALK.

IT IS ISRAEL'S FIRM

BELIEF THAT IF IRAN

CONTINUES TO ADVANCE ITS

NUCLEAR PROGRAM DURING

NEGOTIATIONS, THE SANCTIONS

SHOULD BE STRENTHENED.

Reporter: NETANYAHU MET

WITH PRESIDENT OBAMA AND

FACES A U.N. GENERAL

ASSEMBLY, MANY ISRAELIS

REMAIN SKEPTICAL ABOUT

IRAN'S INTENTIONS, AND THE

DECISION BY THE WHITE HOUSE

TO NEGOTIATE AN END TO IRAN

NOOSE NUCLEAR PROGRAM.

IN THE MEANTIME, MOMENTUM

FOR DIPLOMACY IS BUILDING.

JOHN KERRY NOW SAYS HE FEELS

A DEAL WITH IRAN ABOUT ITS

NUCLEAR PROGRAM COULD BE

FINISHED WITHIN THREE TO SIX

MONTHS.

CHRIS MITCHELL, CBN NEWS,

JERUSALEM.

Reporter: A FEDERAL

JUDGE IS ORDERING ERIC

HOLDER TO TURN OVER

DOCUMENTS CONCERNING "OPTION

FAST AND FURIOUS."

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS

REFUSED TO COMPLY WITH HOUSE

SUBPOENAS.

THEY ARE SEEKING RESPONSE

ABOUT THE CONTROVERSIAL

OPERATION TARGETING GUN

TROLL AT THE MEXICAN

BORDER.

THE HOUSE HAS VOTED TO HOLD

HOLDER IN CONTEMPT FOR NOT

TURNING THEM OVER, AND ON

MONDAY A JUDGE REJECTED

HOLDER'S ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE

DOCUMENTS PRIVATE.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS

SUING NORTH CAROLINA OVER

THE STATE'S NEW VOTING LAW.

IT IS THE LATEST EFFORT BY

THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO

FIGHT BACK AGAINST A SUPREME

COURT RULING THAT STRUCK

DOWN PARTS OF THE VOTING

RIGHTS ACT.

THE NORTH CAROLINA LAW CUTS

EARLY VOTING BY A WEEK, AND

SAME-DAY VOTER REGISTRATION

AND INCLUDES A PHOTO I.D.

DEPARTMENT.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

CLAIMS IT THREATENS THE

VOTING RIGHTS OF MINORITIES

BY MAKING IT HARDER TO

VOTE.

AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

FILED SUIT AGAINST TEXAS

OVER THE NEW VOTER I.D.

LAW.

PAT, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT SETS

THE STAGE FOR WHAT COULD BE

A LONG, DRAWNOUT LEGAL

BATTLE.

Pat: IT SEEMS LIKE THE

JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO

IGNORE COURT ORDER, AND THEY

ARE JUST A LAW UNTO

THEMSELVES.

I DON'T HAVE MUCH CONFIDENCE

IN THE CURRENT

ATTORNEY-GENERAL.

YES, IT WILL SET UP A

LENGTHY PROCESS, BUT IF WE

IGNORE THE CONSTITUTIONAL

MANDATES, OF COURSE, WE'LL

HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEM.

AND WE'VE BEEN HAVING THAT

WITH OUR PRESIDENT.

TERRY?

Terry: WHEN WE COME

BACK, FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER

NEWT GINGRICH JOINS US, SO

STAY WITH US.

BACK IN A MOMENT.

*

Pat: WELL, AT MIDNIGHT

THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHUT

DOWN, OR AT LEAST THAT'S

WHAT THEY SAY, AND WE HAVE

MAN WHO WAS INTIMATELY

INVOLVED IN A PREVIOUS

ACTIVITY BETWEEN CONGRESS

AND THE PRESIDENT, FORMER

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND

REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL

CANDIDATE NEWT GINGRICH.

HE IS JOINING US NOW FROM

WASHINGTON.

MR. SPEAKER, NEWT, GOOD

FRIEND, GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

IT IS GOOD TO BE WITH

YOU.

THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING,

VERY DIFFERENT TIME.

WE HAVE JUST LAUNCHED A

CROSS VARIANCE, AND A

AMAZING NUMBER OF THE SHOWS

ARE ON THIS QUESTION OF THE

SHUTDOWN AND OBAMACARE, AND

WHAT DOES IT MEAN.

I GUESS I COME AT IT FROM A

SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT ANGLE

THAN MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE I

WAS THERE IN '95/'96,

NEGOTIATING WITH BILL

CLINTON.

SO I PROBABLY HAVE A

DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE THAN A

LOT OF PEOPLE.

Pat: YOU AND CLINTON

WERE LOCKED IN NEGOTIATIONS,

AND HE WAS INTIMATELY

INVOLVED.

IT LOOKS LIKE THIS TIME THE

PRESIDENT HAS HANDSOFF, HE

DIDN'T MEET WITH THE PEOPLE,

AND DOESN'T HAVE ANY

ACTIVITY, EXCEPT TO SAY I'M

NOT GOING TO TALK AND THEN

HE DEMONIZES THE

OPPOSITION.

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?

WE'VE HAD 17 SHUTDOWNS

OVER RECENT HISTORY, JUST AS

PART OF THE LEGISLATIVE

PRESIDENTIAL NEGOTIATING

PROCESS.

TIP O'NEILL HAD 12 SHUTDOWNS

DURING THIS SPEAKERSHIP, AND

I'VE HAD TWO.

BUT THIS PARTICULAR

PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT OBAMA,

IS THE MOST ALOOF, THE MOST

CYNICAL, AND THE MOST

DISTANT OF ANY PRESIDENT IN

MY LIFETIME.

HE SPEAKS WITH PUTIN, AHEAD

OF RUSSIA, BUT HE DOESN'T

TALK WITH THE SPEAKER OF THE

HOUSE.

HE TALKS WITH THE IRAN

IRANIAN PRESIDENT, BUT HE

DOESN'T TALK TO THE AMERICAN

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.

I THINK IT IS A VERY STRANGE

PATTERN OF TRYING TO SOMEHOW

PRETEND THAT HE IS ABOVE THE

CONSTITUTION, THAT HE IS A

PRESIDENT WHO DOESN'T NEED

THE CONGRESS.

AND, OF COURSE, THAT'S THE

EXACT OPPOSITE OF HOW THE

FOUNDING FATHERS DESIGNED

THE UNITED STATES

GOVERNMENT.

Pat: TALK ABOUT THAT.

YOU WERE SPEAKER OF THE

HOUSE.

TALK ABOUT WHAT THE

CONSTITUTION HAS TO SAY

ABOUT THE POWERS OF THE

PEOPLE'S HOUSE, THE HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES.

WELL, THE SONG GOES BACK,

AND IT WILL BE 800 YEARS IN

2015.

IT ALL GOES BACK TO THE

BARONS AND KING JOHN SING

THE MAGNA CARTER, BEFORE THE

BARONS SAY WE'RE NOT GOING

TO GIVE YOU MONEY UNLESS YOU

AGREE TO BE UNDER THE LAW.

AND ALL OF OUR RIGHTS, IN

MANY WAYS, COME UNDER THAT

EXPERIENCE AND HOW IT

EVOLVED IN ENGLISH HISTORY

IN THE EVOLVING 600 OR 700

YEARS.

THAT'S WHAT THE FOUNDING

FATHERS WERE LOOKING BACK TO

WHEN THEY WROTE OUR

CONSTITUTION.

THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

HAS 435 PEOPLE ELECTED BY

POPULATION AROUND THE

COUNTRY.

THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE HAS TO

ORIGINATE ALL MONEY BILLS.

IF THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE DOES

NOT SEND THE MONEY TO THE

PRESIDENT, HE CAN'T SPEND

IT.

THIS IS THE CORE THING WHICH

PROTECTS US FROM

DICTATORSHIP AND WHICH

FORCES PRESIDENTS TO

RECOGNIZE THE ELECTED

REPRESENTATIVES OF THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE.

IT IS AT THE ABSOLUTE HEART

OF HOW THE CONSTITUTIONAL

SYSTEM WORKS.

EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE YOU

GET INTO A STRUGGLE SO

DIFFICULT OR AN ISSUE SO

CONTENTIOUS, YOU CAN'T REACH

AN AGREEMENT.

WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE

GOVERNMENT STOPS FOR A

LITTLE WHITE.

WHILE.

THIS HAS HAPPENED 17 TIMES

BEFORE IT, AND WE'VE ALWAYS

SURVIVED IT.

AND PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED AT

HOW MANY DEPARTMENTS OF THE

GOVERNMENT THAT WE DON'T

NEED, THAT PEOPLE DON'T

NOTICE WHEN THEY'RE DOWN.

THE BIG PROBLEM IS PRESIDENT

OBAMA REFUSES TO BEHAVE LIKE

AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT.

HE REFUSES TO DEAL WITH THE

CONGRESS AS HIS EQUAL, WHICH

IS IN THE CONSTITUTION.

ARTICLE TWO IS THE

EXECUTIVE.

AND ARTICLE THREE ARE THE

JUDGES.

SO THE FOUNDING FATHERS

DELIBERATELY PUT THE

LEGISLATURE FIRST, AND THIS

PRESIDENT PUTS HIMSELF ABOVE

THE CONSTITUTION, AND THAT'S

VERY DANGEROUS FOR OUR

FREEDOM.

Pat: WHAT ABOUT HARRY

REID.

HE ACTS LIKE THE SENATE IS

SUPPOSED TO CONTROL THINGS

AND THE HOUSE SHOULD BE THE

LAP DOG OF THE SENATE.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT SHOULD

WORK, SHOULD IT?

FIRST OF ALL, HE THINKS

THE SENATE SHOULD BE THE LAP

DOG OF HARRY REID.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A SENATE

LEADER AS ARROGANT.

HE KNOWS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF HE

ALLOWED THE TAX ON MEDICAL

DEVICES, WHICH IS A TAX ON

OUR HEALTH CARE, A TAX ON

JOBS, AND A TAX INNOVATION,

IF HE ALLOWED IT TO COME UP

FOR APPEAL, IT WOULD PASS BY

A HUGE MARGIN.

HE KNOWS IF HE LET THE

PIPELINE COME UP, IT WOULD

PASS BY A HUGE MARGIN.

SO HE IS USING HIS POWER TO

BLOCK A NUMBER OF ISSUES.

YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIKE SENATOR

MANSIONER, A CONSERVATIVE

DEMOCRAT FROM WEST VIRGINIA

WHO SAID OPENLY THAT

OBAMACARE IS A DISASTER.

HARRY REID CAN'T GIVE HIM A

FAIR VOTE BECAUSE IT WOULD

BE ERODING THE OBAMACARE

BEFORE IT EVEN GETS OFF

GROUND.

HE IS THE ANVILLE, AND THE

PRESIDENT IS THE HAMMER, AND

THE GOAL IS TO CATCH THE

REPUBLICANS BETWEEN THE TWO

OF THEM.

YOU CAN'T RUN THE UNITED

STATES WITH THAT KIND OF AN

ATTITUDE, AND REID IS GOING

TO HAVE TO CHANGE HIS

ATTITUDE OR THIS IS GOING TO

BE A BIG MESS.

Pat: THE BIG MESS WILL

COME UP IN THIS BUSINESS OF

RAISING THE DEBT CEILING.

HOW IS THAT GOING TO COME

OUT?

THAT IS PART OF WHY I

WROTE AN OP-ED YESTERDAY AT

CNN.COM.

AND I SAID THAT THE

REPUBLICANS ABSOLUTELY HAVE

TO HOLD OUT ON THIS BECAUSE

OBAMA HAS GOT TO LEARN HE

HAS TO NEGOTIATE.

FOR THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO

CAVE AFTER THIS MUCH EFFORT

WOULD BE A TERRIBLE LISTEN

FOR THE COUNTRY TO TEACH

THIS PRESIDENT THAT HE IS

ABOVE THE LAW, HE CAN MAKE

DEMANDS, AND HE DOESN'T HAVE

TO NEGOTIATE, HE IS NOT PART

OF THE PROCESS.

IT WOULD ALSO SET A STAGE

FOR OBAMA AND REID TO HAVE

THE REPUBLICANS CAVE ON THE

DEBT CEILING.

IF WE ACTUALLY DID REACH THE

DEBT CEILING AND DID

REPUDIATE OUR DEBT, THE

EFFECTS WOULD BE

HORRENDOUS.

I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK

AT THIS FIRST FIGHT, WHICH

IS VERY IMPORTANT TO SET THE

STAGE FOR NEGOTIATION ON THE

DEBT CEILING.

WITHOUT THAT, YOU HAVE A

SURRENDER TO OBAMA AND HE

GETS TO RUN AMERICA BY

HIMSELF WITHOUT ANY

RESTRAINT, OR YOU HAVE A

REAL CRISIS ON THE DEBT

CEILING.

ONE OF THOSE TWO THINGS

WOULD COME DOWN THE ROAD.

Pat: WHEN YOU WERE IN

CHARGE OF THE HOUSE AND YOU

WERE NEGOTIATING WITH BILL

CLINTON, WHO BLINKED FIRST?

DID YOU GUYS CAVE AND TAKE

THE BLAME THAN THING?

THERE IS A NEW ARTICLE

THAT CAME OUT TODAY FROM

GALLOP THAT WH REINFORCES

SOMETHING, THERE IS NO

EVIDENCE IN POLLING DATA

THAT THE SHUTDOWN HURT THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THE FACT IS THE FIRST

RE-ELECTED HOUSE REPUBLICAN

MAJORITY SINCE 1928 CAME

AFTER THE SHUTDOWN IN 1936.

IT IS HARDLY PUNISHMENT, IF

YOU WILL.

BUT IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK

AT HOW THAT WORKED OUT.

THE BIG DIFFERENCE WAS THAT

BILL CLINTON AND I WERE ABLE

TO COMPAR COMPARTMENTALIZE

WHAT WE WERE DOING.

WE COULD FIGHT IN THE

MORNING AND NEGOTIATE IN THE

AFTERNOON.

WE TALKED ALMOST EVERY DAY.

WE TOOK SUNDAYS OFF, BUT WE

TALKED ALMOST EVERY DAY

DURING THE TWO SHUTDOWNS.

YOU LEARN THINGS OVER TIME

AND CONVERSATION.

YOU GET TO FEEL THE OTHER

PERSON'S CONCERNS, YOU TELL

EACH OTHER STORIES.

YOU GET SOME COMMUNICATION

THAT DOESN'T OCCUR IN THE

FIRST HOUR.

WE MET FOR 35 DAYS IN

NEGOTIATING, AND THE RESULT

WAS WELFARE REFORM, THE

FIRST TAX CUT IN 17 YEARS,

AND THE ONLY FOUR BALANCED

BUDGETS IN THE ROW THAT

WE'VE HAD IN YOUR LIFETIME.

IT WAS OUR ABILITY BETWEEN

PRESIDENT CLINTON AND THE

HOUSE REPUBLICANS TO WORK

TOGETHER AND SORT THIS OUT,

EVEN WHILE WE WERE

FIGHTING.

WE WERE ABLE TO TALK.

I SENSE NO CONVERSATION

BETWEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA AND

THE CONGRESSIONAL

REPUBLICANS.

AND I THINK THAT IS JUST AN

ENORMOUS MISTAKE.

AND, FRANKLY, A TRAGEDY FOR

THE COUNTRY.

Pat: DO YOU WANT TO

PROGNOSTICATE?

WHERE IS THIS GOING TO TAKE

US?

I DON'T KNOW THAT I KNOW

ENOUGH TO PROGNOSTICATE, AS

YOU PUT IT.

I BELIEVE THAT IT IS

ACTUALLY HEALTHY FOR THE

COUNTRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT

PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS TO

OPERATE WITHIN THE LAW, THAT

HE IS NOT ABOVE THE LAW.

I BELIEVE IF YOU LOOK AT THE

EROSION OF HIS SUPPORT AND

THE EROSION OF HIS APPROVAL,

THIS PETULANT SAYING OF

SAYING I WILL NOT NEGOTIATE,

IS ACTUALLY EDUCATING THE

COUNTRY ABOUT THIS GUY'S

PERSONALITY.

I BELIEVE PEOPLE, OVER TIME,

WILL LOOK BACK AND SAY THIS

WAS A VERY IMPORTANT MOMENT,

AND THAT THE REPUBLICANS

SLOWLY, GRADUALLY LEARNED A

NUMBER OF THINGS ABOUT HOW

TO GOVERN WHEN FACED WITH A

HOSTILE PRESIDENT.

I THINK IT COULD BE A VERY

CREATIVE PERIOD IN THE NEXT

TWO OR THREE WEEKS.

Pat: ARE YOU GOING TO

TRY IT AGAIN?

I DON'T KNOW.

WE STILL HAVE A PRETTY LARGE

DEBT.

THERE IS A GREAT NEW BOOK

COMING OUT CALLED "YANKEE

DOODLE DANDY."

AND I HAVE A BOOK COMING OUT

IN NOVEMBER CALLED "BREAK

OUT," AND HOW AMERICA COULD

GO BACK TO BEING THE MOST

DYNAMIC COUNTRY IN THE

WORLD.

I'M MANAGING TO STAY PRETTY

BUSY WITHOUT RUNNING FOR

PRESIDENT.

BUT I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT

THAT IN 2015.

Pat: WE'LL LET YOU AN

ANNOUNCE RIGHT HERE ON THIS

PLATFORM.

I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU.

NEWT GINGRICH, FORMER

SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE AND

VERY GOOD FRIEND.

THANK YOU, PAT.

Terry: COMING UP, A

LOOK BACK AT 52 YEARS OF

BROADCASTING.

STAY TUNED AS WE CELEBRATE

CBN'S ANNIVERSARY WITH A

VERY SPECIAL GUEST.

Terry: THE YEAR WAS

1961.

AT 3:00 IN THE AFTERNOON ON

OCTOBER 1st, PAT ROBERTSON

MADE HIS FIRST APPEARANCE

EVER ON TELEVISION.

HE WAS PRAYING IN FRONT OF A

CARDBOARD CROSS, THE SIGNAL

WAS IN BLACK AND WHITE.

THE PICTURE HALTING AND A

LITTLE SHAKY.

THERE WAS ONLY ONE CAMERA IN

THE RAM-SHACKLED STUDIO, AND

THE EQUIPMENT BROKE DOWN

TWICE THAT AFTERNOON.

BUT FROM THAT INITIAL

BROADCAST IN PORTSMITH,

VIRGINIA, THE GOSPEL HAS

GONE TO THE UTTER MOST PARTS

OF THE EARTH.

Reporter: WHEN YOU TURN

ON "THE 700 CLUB," YOU'RE

WATCHING A PROGRAM THAT HAS

BEEN ON THE AIR CONTINUOUSLY

SINCE 1966.

CBN'S FLAGSHIP SHOW AND ONE

OF THE LONGEST RUNNING DAILY

PROGRAMS IN TELEVISION

HISTORY.

Pat: I'VE PROBABLY SEEN

MORE PEOPLE COME TO THE LORD

THROUGH CBN THAN ANY OTHER

ORGANIZATION IN THE WORD.

BUT IT WASN'T ME.

IT WAS GOD.

Reporter: IT WAS AN

UNBELIEVABLE LEAP OF FAITH

FOR A MAN WHO DIDN'T OWN A

TV SET, TO JUMP INTO

TELECOMMUNICATIONS IN 1961.

Pat: I DIDN'T HAVE ANY

MONEY, BUT A LOT OF FAITH, I

SUPPOSE.

SO I GOT AN APPOINTMENT WITH

DAVID SARNOFF, WHO WAS THEN

CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD OF

RCA, AND TOLD HIM WE NEEDED

SOME HELP AND WE WANTED TO

BUY SOME EQUIPMENT FROM

HIM.

HE LOOKED AT ME AND HE SAID,

YOU DON'T SOUND LIKE MUCH OF

A BUYER TO ME.

Reporter: UNDAUNTED BY

SKEPTICISM, PAT BOUGHT THE

EQUIPMENT HE NEEDED FROM

RCA, TO GET THE TRANSMITTER

AND CAMERA WORKING.

52 YEARS AGO, HE SWITCHED ON

THE TRANSMITTER, FRAMED UP

THE CAMERA, AND WENT ON THE

AIR WITH HIS BIBLE IN HAND.

THE INAUGURAL BROADCAST OF

THE CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING

NETWORK MADE IT TO THE END

OF THE BLOCK, AND FROM THERE

IT NEVER STOPPED.

OVER THE DECADES, MILLIONS

ON EVERY CONTINENT HAVE

RESPONDED TO CHRIST AS PAT

SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO VIEWERS.

Pat: LORD, JESUS --

THAT'S RIGHT, PRAY WITH ME.

LORD JESUS, YOU KNOW WHAT

I'VE BEEN THROUGH.

Reporter: TODAY CBN

PROGRAMMING IS SEEN IN MORE

THAN 100 NATIONS AROUND THE

WORLD.

COUNTRIES ONCE COMPLETELY

CLOSED TO THE GOSPEL ARE NOW

NEW FRONTIERS.

WHAT BEGAN IN TIDEWATER,

VIRGINIA, I SPANNING IS

SPANNING THE GLOBE.

Pat: I WANTED TO BE

PART OF GOD'S PLAN.

AND HIS PLAN IS FOR WORLD

EVANGELIZATION, AND HE HAS

LET ME BE PART OF IT.

Reporter: IN 1978, PAT

WAS READING OUT OF THE

SCRIPTURES IN ISAIAH.

Pat: IS IT NOT TO SHARE

YOUR FOOD WITH THE HUNGRY,

AND PROVIDE THE POOR

WANDERER WITH SHELTER AND

WHEN YOU SEE THE NAKED, TO

CLOTHE HIM.

Reporter: WITH THAT

BIBLICAL MANDATE, PAT

STARTED "OPERATION

BLESSING."

EARLY ON, PRESIDENTS LIKE

RONALD REAGAN TOOK NOTICE.

"OPERATION BLESSING" HAS

GIVEN MORE THAN $285 MILLION

TO HUNDREDS OF CHURCHES, AND

THIS MONEY IS MATCHED BY THE

LOCAL CHURCHES, AND THE

RESULT HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.

Reporter: NOW A FLEET

OF TRUCKS ACROSS THE NATION

ARE PROVIDING HUN HUNGER

RELIEF, AND WATER WELLS ARE

DUG ON MANY CONTINENTS.

IF DISASTER STRIKES, LIKE

HURRICANE KATRINA AND SANDY,

"OPERATION BLESSING" IS

THERE WITH EMERGENCY

RELIEF.

Pat:

"OPERATION BLESSING" IS

HELPING THE POOR AND THE

NEEDY.

WE DISTRIBUTE ABOUT

100 MILLION POUNDS OF FOOD

AND SUPPLIES TO THE INNER

CITIES OF AMERICA EVERY

YEAR.

Reporter: REGENT

UNIVERSITY BEGAN WITH 77

GRADUATE STUDENTS IN 1978.

TODAY, OVER 5,000 SCHOLARS

ARE TRAINING IN THE MAJOR

DISCIPLINES.

THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW

AND JUSTICE WAS ESTABLISHED

SO THAT WHEN THE RIGHTS OF

RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE

VIOLATED, THEY HAVE A STRONG

ADVOCATE IN THE COURTS.

THE AMERICAN CENTER NOR

LAW AND JUSTICE IS

STRAIGHTFORWARD.

WE DEFEND LIBERTY AND

FREEDOM.

AND IT IS SOMETHING YOU DO

WITH EXCELLENCE.

WHAT WE DO IS DEFEND THE

RIGHTS OF RELIGIOUS PEOPLE

TO ENGAGE IN FREE SPEECH AND

TO SHARE THEIR FAITH IN THE

UNITED STATES AND AROUND THE

WORLD.

Reporter: DEE DEE

ROBERTSON STANDS IN

AMAZEMENT OF IT ALL.

I HAVE SEEN MORE THAN I

EVER DREAMED I WOULD SEE.

I HAVE DONE MORE THAN I EVER

DREAMED I WOULD DO.

AND IT HAS JUST BEEN A VERY

EXCITING LIFE.

AND WORKING FOR THE LORD IS

AN EXCITING THING TO DO.

FOLLOWING HIS LEADING AND

DOING THE THINGS THAT HE

WANTS YOU TO DO.

Pat: I THINK PERHAPS

MORE THAN ANYTHING, THOUGH,

ARE THE NUMBERS OF PEOPLE

WHO HAVE COME TO THE LORD.

WHAT I'M DOING NOW IS OF

GREAT IMPORTANCE, WHICH IS

PREACHING THE GOSPEL.

Terry: AND THAT HAS

BECOME JUST AN EXPANDED

REALITY FROM THE INITIAL

DREAM.

Pat: TERRY, IT BOGGLES

THE IMAGINATION.

WE HAVE HAD, LIKE,

93 MILLION PRAYER REQUESTS.

500 TO 600 MILLION PEOPLE

HAVE ACCEPTED THE LORD.

Terry: AND SO MUCH OF

THIS HAPPENED OVER THE YEARS

BECAUSE OF THE LORD.

PEOPLE HAVE CAUGHT THE

VISION THAT GOD GAVE TO YOU

AND SUPPORTED IT.

WE CAME THROUGH A WONDERFUL

WEEK OF TELETHON, AND YOU

ALL GAVE SO GENEROUSLY, AND

WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

BECAUSE IT IS THE PARTNERS

COMING ALONGSIDE OF THE

VISION GOD GAVE YOU THAT

MADE IT POSSIBLE.

Pat: IT STARTED WITH

"THE 700 CLUB," I ASKED FOR

700 PEOPLE TO GIVE $10 A

MONTH.

AND I ONLY GOT 333.

SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN THE

333 CLUB.

BUT WHEN GOD MOVED IN A

GREAT, SPECIAL WAY IN 1965,

IT WAS HIS WAY OF DOING IT,

HIS WAY OF DOING

TELEVISION.

AND WE SAW REVIVAL, AND

WE'VE SEEN IT SPREAD

THROUGHOUT THE WORLD, AND IT

IS VERY EXCITING.

YOU'RE RIGHT, THE PEOPLE

JUST LAST WEEK WHO HAVE

PLEDGED, WE THANK GOD FOR

EACH ONE OF YOU.

AND I HOPE THAT YOU HAD A

CHANCE TO SEE THIS?

Terry: I CERTAINLY

DID.

AND IN ADDITION TO

SALVATION, TEACHING IS THE

OTHER THING YOU'VE DONE.

Pat: I'M LOVE TO TEACH

THE WORD.

I MET WITH SCOTT ROSS UP ON

THE MOUNTAIN OF VIRGINIA,

AND WE HAD A COUPLE OF DAYS

TO TALK ABOUT ISSUES ON

PEOPLE'S HEARTS.

AND THIS IS A D.V.D. CALLED

"HOW SHALL WE NOW LIVE?"

PEOPLE WHO HAVE WATCHED IT

SEEM TO THINK A LOT OF IT.

Terry: WELL, THE

QUESTIONS THAT ARE ANSWERED

IN THERE, ARE QUESTIONS THAT

EVERY ONE OF US HAVE AT

LEAST CONTEMPLATED IN OUR

HEARTS, IF NOT ASKED GOD

HIMSELF OR SOMEONE ELSE

AUDIBLY, AND YOU CLEARLY

ANSWER FROM THE WORD OF GOD,

CLEARLY HOW WE SHOULD LIVE

IN THE DAY WE LIVE IN.

Pat: IT'S IMPORTANT.

YOU JOIN "THE 700 CLUB," AND

THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION.

52 YEARS OF BROADCASTING.

THIS IS THE START OF THE

53rd YEAR.

THAT'S A LONG TIME.

Terry: IT IS A VERY

LONG TIME.

I LOVE WATCHING THOSE PIECES

BECAUSE WHEN YOU SEE WHAT

GOD HAS DONE OVER THAT TIME,

IT KIND OF TAKES YOUR BREATH

AWAY.

SPEAKING OF THAT, A LOT OF

PEOPLE HAVE COME THROUGH

HERE IN THE PROCESS, BUT

NONE MORE LOVED THAN THE MAN

WHO CAME TO CO-HOST "THE 700

CLUB" IN 1975 AND THEN

STAYED FOR THE NEXT TWO

DECADES.

ONCE AGAIN, BEN KINCHLO WILL

TAKE HIS SEAT BESIDE PAT

WHEN WE COME BACK.

Pat: WELCOME BACK TO

THIS SPECIAL ANNIVERSARY

PROGRAM.

TODAY CBN IS CELEBRATING 52

YEARS OF TELEVISION

BROADCASTING.

AND FOR NEARLY TWO DECADES

OF THAT TIME THERE WAS A MAN

WHO CAME TO US.

HE WAS FROM CALENE, TEXAS,

AND HE WAS RUNNING A DRUG

REHAB PROGRAM DOWN THERE,

AND HAND TO MOUTH, AND HE

SAT WITH US, AND THE NEXT

THING YOU KNOW, HE WAS THE

ALTERNATE HOST OF THIS

PROGRAM, AND THEN COHOST,

AND HE WAS HERE AS A DEAR

FRIEND FOR DECADES.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: BEN KINCHLOW

IS KNOWN AROUND THE WORLD AS

A LONG-TIME COHOST OF "THE

700 CLUB."

FOR 17 YEARS HE CAPTIVATED

AUDIENCES WITH HIS

CONTAGIOUS LAUGHTER AND

CHARMING PERSONALITY.

I'M AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Reporter: HE FIRST

APPEARED ON "THE 700 CLUB"

IN 1971, WHEN HE WAS THE

DIRECTOR OF A DRUG AND

REHABILITATION CENTER.

HE LATER JOINED CBN AS THE

DIRECTOR OF COUNSELLING, AND

IN 1975, HE JOINED PAT AS

COHOST OF "THE 700 CLUB."

AFTER LEAVING CBN IN 1996,

BEN BEGAN HIS OWN MINISTRY,

SERVING AS A HUMANITARIAN,

MINISTER, AND POLITICAL

AWARENESS ACTIVIST.

Pat: WELL, WE HAD A

COHOSTESS NAMED SODERMAN,

AND SHE SAID, IT IS THE

BLONDE, THE BLACK, AND THE

BAPTIST.

BEN KINCHLOW.

AS LONG AS I'M NOT THE

BAPTIST.

Pat: HEY, YOU'RE

LOOKING GOOD, BROTHER.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME.

YOU'VE STILL GOT THIS THING

HERE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS

BIBLE HAS BEEN HERE FOR,

WHAT, 40 YEARS?

THIS THING IS STILL HERE.

IT HASN'T CHANGED A BIT.

AND YOU HAVEN'T CHANGED A

BIT.

Pat: AND YOU LOOK

GOOD.

THANKS TO THE MAKEUP TEAM

BACK THERE.

THEY CAN MAKE ME LOOK GOOD.

Pat: I REMEMBER YOU

WERE IN CALENE, TEXAS, AND

YOU WERE ON A PIG FARM WITH

A BUNCH OF DRUG ADDICTS.

YES -- IT WASN'T A PIG

FARM.

IT WAS KLED CHRISTIAN FARMS,

CALLED CHRISTIAN FARMS, AND

I GOT A CALL FROM A CLUB I

NEVER HEARD ABOUT, CALLED

"THE 700 CLUB."

AND HERE WAS THIS GUY NAMED

DR. PAT ROBERTSON.

AND THE GUY TALKED TO ME

LIKE HE WAS REALLY

INTERESTED IN WHAT I HAD TO

SAY.

Pat: YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO

BE.

I KNOW, BUT YOU REALLY

DID THAT.

AND I THOUGHT, WOW.

SO A FEW MONTHS LATER, ABOUT

60 DAYS LATER THEY CALLED ME

UP, A LADY NAMED RUTH

ECKHARD CALLED ME AND SHE

SAID, WOULD YOU COME AND

HELP PAT ROBERTSON DO "THE

700 CLUB."

IT WAS YOU, AND A GUY NAMED

HENRY HARRISON, AND THERE

WAS A THIRD GUY OVER IN THE

PHONE BANK.

SO ONCE OR TWICE AND THE

TWO-HOUR SHOW YOU WOULD SAY

LET'S GO OVER TO OUR

PHONES.

AND I WOULD DO THAT.

THEY CALLED ME TO PORTLAND,

VIRGINIA.

THAT WAS A BIG STUDIO.

LIGHTS, CAMERA, ACTION, LIVE

AUDIENCE, AND I'M OVER HERE

SHAKING HANDS WITH THE

COUNSELLORS, GOING WHAT'S

HAPPENING.

AND THE FLOOR DIRECTOR WAS

SAYING, MR. KINCHLOW, WE'VE

GOT ABOUT FIVE MINUTES,

WOULD YOU TAKE YOUR PLACE.

SO I SAT DOWN IN THE GUEST

CHAIR AND I WAS WAVING TO

THE AUDIENCE.

AND HE FINALLY SAID,

MR. KIN-LOWCHLOW, WE'VE GOT

TWO MINUTES TO AIR, WOULD

YOU TAKE YOUR PLACE.

I THOUGHT, THIS WOULD BE A

GOOD TIME TO ASK WHERE IS MY

PLACE.

AND I ASKED HIM, WHERE DO

YOU WANT ME TO SIT.

AND HE SAID, YOU MEAN THEY

DIDN'T TELL YOU?

PAT AND HENRY ARE IN ISRAEL,

AND YOU'RE THE HOST OF "THE

700 CLUB."

Pat: YOU DIDN'T KNOW?

I DIDN'T KNOW

(laughing).

Pat: I'LL NEVER FORGET,

YOU WERE HOSTING.

AND YOU HAD THE LADY WHO WAS

THE WIFE OF A PROMINENT

DALLAS REAL ESTATE GUY, AND

SHE HAD A ROCK ON HER FINGER

ABOUT SEVEN AND A HALF

CARATS, AND YOU WERE

INTERVIEWING HER, AND SHE

SAID, WE DIDN'T HAVE -- IT

WAS SUCH A SUFFERING TIME

AND WE WERE SHORT OF

SERVANTS.

AND YOU LOOKED AT HER AND

SAID, WELL, TELL ME ABOUT

IT.

I'LL NEVER FORGET THAT.

TELL ME ABOUT HAVING A

SHORTAGE OF SERVANTS.

WE HAD A LOT OF FUN, DIDN'T

WE?

PAT, ONE OF THE THINGS

PEOPLE FORGET, AND THEY

THROW THE WORD "PIONEER"

AROUND, BUT WHAT PEOPLE

DON'T REALIZE, WHEN YOU

STARTED THIS THING, YOU

MAYBE GET A SUNDAY MORNING

PROGRAM ON SOME TELEVISION

STATEMENTS, THAT MIGHT BE

RUNNING ORAL ROBERTS OR

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT THEN YOU STARTED IN THIS

LITTLE RUN-DOWN STATION IN

PORTSMITH, VIRGINIA, AND A

ONE-HOUR PROGRAM WHEN IT

WOULD AIR.

AND NOW PEOPLE DON'T THINK

ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT THE

FACT THAT THERE IS 24-HOUR

DAYS, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK

CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.

SO YOU CAN TUNE IT IN ON THE

INTERNET, YOU CAN FIND IT

ANYWHERE.

BUT BACK IN THE DAY, THE

WORD "PIONEER" REALLY HAD A

MEANING.

YOU WERE THE FIRST GUY THAT

HAD THE GUMPTION TO DO

SOMETHING NOBODY HAD GONE

BEFORE.

LIKE STAR TREK, WHERE NO MAN

HAS GONE BEFORE.

Pat: AT WARP SPEED, OUT

OF THE ENTERPRISE.

AND NOW, ALL OVER THE

WORLD, PAT, PEOPLE ARE

COMING TO KNOW THE REALITY

OF JESUS CHRIST.

Pat: THAT'S RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, PAT, ONE OF THE

THINGS I THINK WE FORGET IS

THAT WESTERN CIVILIZATION

AND ALL OF THE BENEFITS AND

PRIVILEGES OF WESTERN

CIVILIZATION ARE FOUNDED ON

THE JUDEO PRINCIPLES FOUND

IN THE BIBLE.

AND WHAT "THE 700 CLUB" DOES

ON A REGULAR BASIS IS ART

ARTICULATES THESE PRINCIPLES

AND SAYS, THIS IS HOW WE

SHALL LIVE.

AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME

A COPY OF THIS.

Pat: "HOW SHALL WE NOW

LIVE?"

WHAT ARE YOU DOING NOW?

YOU'VE GOT THIS POLITICS

THINGS, "YELLOW DOG DONKIES?"

THERE IS A COPY.

WHAT IS IT?

IT IS ABOUT THE

PARTICIPATION IN THE

POLITICAL EXISTENCE OF

AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY HAVE

BECOME WHAT ARE REFERRED TO

AS THE YELLOW DOG

DEMOCRATS.

THE YELLOW DOG DEMOCRAT

MEANS THAT YOU VOTE FOR A

DEMOCRAT, REGARDLESS OF THE

CANDIDATE, REGARDLESS OF THE

ISSUE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY

DIFFERENCE WHO HE IS OR WHAT

HE IS TALKING ABOUT, AND HE

IS A DEMOCRAT, YOU VOTE FOR

HIM.

THAT'S WHAT

AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN

DOING.

BUT THEY NEED TO BE VOTING

ACCORDING TO PRINCIPLE, NOT

PARTIES.

I WROTE THIS BOOK TO SAY,

LET'S EXAMINE THE HISTORICAL

FACTS AND VOTE ACCORDING TO

PRINCIPLE.

Pat: YOU'RE TALKING

ABOUT THE NEW PLANTATION.

EXACTLY, MAN.

LET ME JUST TELL YOU -- YOU

REMEMBER BACK IN THOSE

DAYS -- IF YOU LOOK AT THE

HISTORY, BACK IN THE DAY,

THERE WERE TWO TYPES OF

SLAVES.

THERE WAS THE HOUSE SLAVE

AND THE FIELD SLAVE.

THE HOUSE SLAVE WAS THE GUY

WHO LIVED IN THE MASTER'S

HOUSE, HE ATE MASTER'S

LEFTOVERS, AND HE WORE SOME

OF MASTER'S CLOTHES

SOMETIMES.

THE FIELD SLAVE WORKED OUT

OF THE FIELDS AND HE GOT

TREATED LIKE A DOG.

HE WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR AN

OPPORTUNITY TO ESCAPE.

SO SOMETIMES HE WOULD COME

IN AND TALK TO THE HOUSE

SLAVE AND SAY, LET'S RUN

AWAY.

AND THE HOUSE SLAVE WOULD

SAY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN RUN

AWAY.

MASTER GOOD.

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND

ANYONE TO TAKE CARE OF US

LIKE THIS?

TODAY, THE DEMOCRATS ARE

STILL PRACTICING PLANTATION

POLITICS.

WHEN YOU TALK TO PEOPLE

ABOUT BREAKING AWAY FROM THE

LIBERAL PARTY AND BREAKING

AWAY FROM THE DEMOCRATS AND

SAY, GO LOOK OUT FOR

YOURSELF, THEY PULL OUT THIS

THING, PAT.

LET ME JUST SHOW YOU.

THIS IS A LIST OF SOME OF

THE BENEFITS THAT ARE

AVAILABLE TO YOU --

Pat: GOOD GRIEF!

-- IF YOU ARE A SINGLE

FAMILY OR A PREGNANT

MOTHER.

THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE

BENEFITS.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LET'S

GET AWAY FROM HERE AND GO

TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF,

THEY'LL SAY, ARE YOU CRAZY?

WHERE ARE WE GOING TO FIND

SOMEBODY WHO WILL TAKE CARE

OF US LIKE THIS.

Pat: THAT WHOLE

LIST --

THAT WHOLE LIST.

AND SO NOW ALL YOU HAVE TO

DO IS GO DOWN AND FILE FOR

ONE OF THESE BENEFITS, AND

YOU JUST GOT A LIST OF

THEM.

EVERY SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS --

WHAT GETS REWARDED GETS

DONE.

YOU WANT SOMETHING TO DO

SOMETHING, REWARD THEM.

SO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE, THE

REASON THAT 70 SOME ODD

PERCENT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN

BABIES ARE BORN OUT OF

WEDLOCK IS BECAUSE THEY

REWARD MOTHERS FOR HAVING

CHILDREN OUT OF WEDLOCK.

Pat: A BIG, BIG

REWARD.

$90 A MONTH -- WHATEVER THEY

PAY.

IT IS BIG MONEY.

IT COMES OUT, PAT, WHEN

YOU TAKE ALL OF THE BENEFITS

ADDED TOGETHER, YOU ACTUALLY

MAKE MORE ON WELFARE

BENEFITS THAN YOU CAN IF YOU

WERE WORKING A JOB

REGULARLY.

Pat: WHAT ARE YOU GOING

TO DO?

THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT

THEY'RE DOING.

Pat: THEY'RE NOT

STUPID.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY,

HEY, SEND ME MY CHECK,

BABY.

Pat: YOU'RE ROWING

UPSTREAM ON THIS ONE.

YES.

BUT I'M TRYING TO SAY THAT

ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO

UNDERSTAND IS GOD GAVE US

SOMETHING CALLED HUMAN

SOVEREIGNTY.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE

OUR OWN DECISIONS, AND GOD

HOLDS US RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR

DECISIONS.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO,

MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON

PRINCIPLE.

GOD'S PRINCIPLES, NOT BASED

ON THE PROMISE OF SOME

EARTHLY REWARD.

Pat: THAT IS GETTING A

RECEPTIVE EAR IN A NUMBER OF

PLACES.

YOU MUST BE MUCH IN DEMAND

AS A SPEAKER.

I GET A CHANCE TO SPEAK

TO SOME FOLKS AND MEET SOME

OF THE FOLKS WHO'S NAMES YOU

WOULD RECOGNIZE IF I

MENTIONED THEM.

Pat: WHAT YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT, BEN, IS

LEADING TO THIS IMPASSE THAT

THEY'VE GOT IN WASHINGTON.

BECAUSE THE FOLKS WHO ARE

GIVING THE PLANTATION

BENEFITS DON'T WANT TO GIVE

THEM UP.

AND THE ONES WHO SAY WE'VE

GOT TO HAVE FISCAL SANITY OR

WE'RE GOING TO RUIN THE

WHOLE GAME FOR EVERYBODY,

THEY'RE FIGHTING UPSTREAM

LIKE YOU ARE.

BUT IF YOU DON'T KNOW

WHAT THE TRUTH IS, PAT, THEN

YOU'LL ACT ON WHAT YOU THINK

IS THE TRUTH.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE

FOUNDING FATHERS PUT IN A

FREE PRESS WAS SO PEOPLE GET

THE FACTS, NOT OPINION.

AND THAT'S THE JOB OF THE

PRESS, TO TELL PEOPLE WHAT'S

REALLY GOING ON.

UNFORTUNATELY, THAT HAS

FALLEN BY THE WAYSIDE.

Pat: THEY WON'T DO IT.

BEN, IT IS GREAT TO SEE

YOU.

YOU'RE LOOKING WELL.

YOU'RE CHARGED UP AND HAVE A

NEW VISION OF WHERE THE LORD

IS GOING TO TAKE YOU.

LAST TIME I WAS ON "THE

700 CLUB," I SAID SOMETHING

RUDE AND STUPID, AND I DID

IT IN THE PUBLIC.

SO I HAD TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU

AND TO THE AUDIENCE.

SO PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

Pat: BROTHER, IT'S

GREAT TO SEE YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU.

MY PRIVILEGE.

THANK YOU.

Pat: WE HAD SOME GREAT

TIMES.

YES, WE DID.

Pat: BEN'S BOOK IS

CALLED "BLACK YELLOW DOGS"

AVAILABLE WHERE BOOKS ARE

SOLD.

AND WE HAVE A WEB EXCLUSIVE

INTERVIEW WITH BEN, SO WATCH

FOR THAT.

AND YOU CAN LOG ON cbn.com

AND CLICK ON A THING CALLED

"IN THE GREEN ROOM."

WITH WHO GRANDSON, CAN

YOU BELIEVE THAT

(laughing)?

Pat: THE APPLE DOESN'T

FALL FAR FROM THE TREE.

TERRY, IT IS ANNIVERSARY

TIME.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Terry: IT IS SO GREAT

TO HAVE BEN BACK.

STILL AHEAD, WE'RE GOING TO

"BRING IT ON."

ANABEL SAYS, "I KEEP HEARING

THAT JUST BELIEVING IN JESUS

AND ACCEPTING HIM AS SAVIOR

IS ENOUGH TO GET US INTO

HEAVEN.

DOES OUR BEHAVIOR ON EARTH

NOT MATTER AS LONG AS WE

BELIEVE JESUS DIED FOR US?"

YOU HAVE TO STAY TUNED FOR

THE ANSWER TO THAT, AND IT'S

COMING UP.

WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700

CLUB."

A CENTRAL PART OF PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE LAW

TAKES EFFECT TODAY, BUT THAT

IS ISN'T GOOD NEWS TO SOME

IN THE MEDICAL FIELD.

THOUSANDS OF CHRISTIAN

DOCTORS ACROSS THE NATION

ARE CONSIDERING QUITTING

MEDICINE OR WORKING

OVERSEAS.

THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF

THE CHRISTIAN MEDICAL

ASSOCIATION SAYS THEY'RE

CONCERNED ABOUT OBAMACARE

AND FEAR THEY COULD BE

FORCED TO FACILITATE

ABORTIONS OR PRESCRIBE DRUGS

THAT VALLE VIOLATE THEIR

CONVICTIONS.

MANY HAVE AVOIDED HIRING AND

TAKING ON NEW PATIENTS DUE

TO UNCERTAINTY OVER

OBAMACARE.

IRAN HAS DENIED A PARDON TO

ANOTHER IMPRISONED PASTOR.

CBN NEWS HAS KEPT YOU

UPDATED ON DEVELOPMENTS WITH

PASTOR SAEED ABEDINI OVER

THE LAST YEAR.

BUT HE IS JUST ONE OF MANY

CHRISTIANS JAILED IN IRAN

FOR THEIR FAITH.

ACCORDING TO PRESENT TRUTH

MINISTRY, THE PASTOR BENAN

IRANA ASKED A JUDGE TO

PEARE PARDON, BUT THE JUDGE

REFUSED.

HE HAS ALREADY SERVED MORE

THAN TWO YEARS.

THE JUDGE SAID THE ONLY WAY

IRANI WOULD BE RELEASED

EARLY IS IF HE REPENTS AND

RETURNS TO ISLAM.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry:

WELL, PAT

MENTIONED EARLIER THAT ONE

OF THE THINGS HE LOVES TO DO

IS TEACH, AND THAT'S WHY WE

LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU.

WHAT SPIRITUAL QUESTIONS DO

YOU HAVE YOU WOULD LIKE TO

HAVE ANSWERED.

WE'RE GOING TO "BRING IT ON"

FOR A FEW MINUTES HERE.

PAT, THIS IS ANABEL, WHO

SAYS, "I KEEP HEARING THAT

JUST BELIEVING IN JESUS AND

ACCEPTING HIM AS OUR SAVIOR

IS ENOUGH TO GET US TO

HEAVEN.

DOES OUR BEHAVIOR ON EARTH

NOT MATTER, AS LONG AS WE

BELIEVE IN JESUS.

I'M TROUBLED WITH THIS.

I LOVE JESUS, AND TRY TO

LIVE MY LIFE AS JESUS

WOULD.

BUT WILL SOMEONE WHO

BELIEVES IN JESUS AND IS

STILL SINNING WHERE THEY DIE

ALSO GO TO HEAVEN?"

Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS

THIS, AND MARK IT DOWN

CAREFULLY.

IF WE ARE DEAD TO SIN, HOW

CAN WE LIVE ANY LONGER

THEREIN IF ANYBODY IS IN

CHRIST, HE IS A NEW

CREATION.

OLD THINGS ARE PASSED AWAY.

BEHOLD, ALL HAS BECOME NEW.

THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE

CONCEPT OF BEING BORN AGAIN

IS.

IT ISN'T JUST GO FOR IT.

DO YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS?

YEAH, I BELIEVE IN JESUS.

NO.

NO.

NO.

YOUR LIFE IS TRANSFORMED.

YOU DIED OF SIN, AND YOU ARE

MADE ALIVE TO GOD.

AND YOU THEREFORE LIVE FOR

HIM FROM THEN ON.

IF YOU SIN, OF COURSE, AND

WE ALL SIN, HE IS FAITHFUL

AND JUST TO FORGIVE US OUR

SINS AND TO CLEANSE US FROM

ALL UNRIGHTEOUSNESS.

BUT YOU CANNOT SAY YOU

BELONG TO GOD AND THEN YOU

LIVE FOR THE DEVIL.

I THINK PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

MISTAUGHT TERRIBLY.

AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP

WITH TERRIBLE SURPRISES.

IF YOU REALLY, REALLY LOVE

SOMEBODY, YOU LIVE FOR

THEM.

YOU LIVE FOR THEM.

AND THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS,

AN EXCHANGED LIFE, WHERE WE

HAVE BEEN BORN AGAIN.

AND THE OLD MAN DIES, AND

THE NEW MAN, MADE IN THE

IMAGE OF GOD, COMES ALIVE.

THAT'S WHAT SAYS YOU.

Terry: THIS IS A VIEWER

WHO SAYS, "RECENTLY MY

CHURCH BAUD A BUILDING

BOUGHT A BUILDING THAT HAD

BEEN FOR SALE NEXT TO THE

CHURCH.

THE MEMBERSHIP WAS NOT

CONSULTED AND IT WAS

ANNOUNCED AFTER IT WAS

DONE.

SHOULDN'T THE CHURCH

MEMBERSHIP HAVE HAD A CHANCE

TO DISCUSS THIS PURCHASE?"

Pat: I DON'T KNOW THE

ARTICLES AND BYLAWS OF YOUR

CHURCH.

IT MAY BE THAT THE DECISIONS

LIKE THIS ARE IN THE HANDS

OF THE BISHOP OR IN THE

HANDS OF THE EXECUTIVE

COMMITTEE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

ARTICLES SAY.

YOU DON'T NECESSARILY ASK

THE CHURCH MEMBERSHIP TO

VOTE ON EVERYTHING UNLESS

THAT IS THE WAY IT IS.

IF IT IS A BAPTIST CHURCH,

EVERYBODY HAS GOT A VOTE.

IF IT IS A METHODIST CHURCH,

MAYBE THE BISHOP HAS GOT TO

DECIDE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOURS

SAYS.

YES, IN CERTAIN INSTANCES,

BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE

GOVERNORING ARTICLES OF YOUR

DENOMINATION.

Terry: THIS IS JACKSON

WHO SAYS, "I GO TO CHURCH

AND MY PASTOR PREACHES FROM

THE BIBLE, BUT WE'RE NEVER

TOLD TO OPEN OUR BIBLE TO

FOLLOW ALONG.

ONE TIME I FOLLOWED ALONG,

AND HE WAS TWISTING THE

WORDS IN THE SCRIPTURES.

SHOULD I JUST FOLLOW WHAT

THE PASTOR SAYS, OR SHOULD I

DO MY OWN RESEARCH ON THE

SCRIPTURES TO PROVE MY FAITH

AND GET THE TRUTH?"

Pat: GET THE TRUTH.

PAUL SAID, I'M NOT LIKE ONE

WHO TWISTS THE WORD

DECEITFULLY.

IT IS JUST TERRIBLE THAT

SOMEBODY WOULD, INDEED,

TWIST THE WORD FOR THEIR OWN

SATISFACTION.

BUT THE WORD IS CLEAR.

THERE WAS MANY YEARS,

THOUGH, IT WAS CONSIDERED A

SIN TO PUT THE BIBLE IN

PEOPLE'S HANZ.

HANDS.

IN THE MIDDLE AGES, THE

CATHOLIC CHURCH HAD

DOMINANCE, AND THEY DIDN'T

ALLOW TRANSLATION IN THE

VERNACULAR.

AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO

BEGAN TRANSLATING THE BIBLE

WERE BURNED AT THE STAKE.

Terry: THAT'S HOW THEY

CONTROLLED IT, BY NOT

LETTING --

Pat: ABSOLUTELY.

BUT NOW WE BELIEVE IN THE

PRIESTHOOD OF ALL

BELIEVERS.

EVERYBODY IS A PRIEST BEFORE

GOD.

YOU NEED TO FIND OUT FOR

YOURSELF.

IF YOUR PASTOR IS REALLY

TWISTING THE WORD, CALL HIM

ON IT OR GO TO ANOTHER

CHURCH.

Terry: THIS IS ALECSA

WHO SAYS, "I'M CURRENTLY

LOOKING FOR WORK, AND WE

HAVE A SWEEPSTAKES/SLOTS

PLACE DOWN THE ROAD THAT IS

HIRING.

I FEEL TORN BETWEEN NEEDING

WORK AND WORKING FOR A PLACE

THAT DRAWS PEOPLE IN FOR THE

PURPOSE OF GAMBLING.

WOULD IT BE SINFULLY FOUR

FOR ME TO WORK IN A PLACE

LIKE THIS?"

Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS

WHATEVER IS NOT OF FAITH IS

SIN.

AND YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T

BELIEVE IT IS THE RIGHT

THING.

ASK FOR GOD TO OPEN A JOB

FOR YOU.

I'M A GREAT BELIEVER IN

THESE TELEMARKETING THINGS.

YOU CAN GET WORK FROM HOME.

IT IS STRICTLY A GAMBLING

THING.

IT IS SWEEPSTAKES AND

SLOTS -- THAT'S GAMBLING.

NO.

Terry: THIS IS A VIEWER

WHO SAYS, "I'VE BEEN

ADDICTED TO A NASAL

DECONGESTIVE FOR SIX YEARS.

I PRAYED FOR RELIEF.

THIS ADDICTION IS AS STRONG

AT SMOKING.

PLEASE DON'T TELL ME JUST TO

QUIT BECAUSE I'VE TRIED

THAT.

THE REBOUND MEDICATION FOR

THIS IS VERY STRONG.

WHY WON'T GOD DELIVER ME?"

Pat: I WANT TO SAY IT

AGAIN, IT TAKES 21 DAYS TO

CHANGE A HABIT.

THAT MEANS THINK OF

SOMETHING ELSE YOU CAN DO.

THESE NASAL DECONGESTIVES,

SOME SOLD OVER THE COUNTER

ARE VERY ADDICTIVE.

THE OLD ONES WEREN'T, BUT

NOW THE ONES THEY HAVE OUT

ARE ADDICTIVE.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE

REBOUND.

YOU'VE GOT TO SAY, DAY I'M

NOT GOING TO SNORT.

CHEW GUM, DO SOMETHING.

WHEN YOU GET A CRAVING.

AND THE NEXT DAY AND THE

NEXT DAY.

21 DAYS AND YOU'LL KICK THAT

HABIT.

BEFORE LONG, YOU'LL HATE

IT.

THAT THING WILL EAT YOUR

NOSE AND THE LINING OF YOUR

SINUSES.

IT IS HORRIBLE.

SO STOP IT.

AND YOU SAY, DON'T TELL ME

TO STOP.

YES, I'M TELLING YOU TO

STOP, BUT DAILY.

TODAY I WILL NOT SNIFF THE

DECONGESTIVE.

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE NEXT

DAY.

ONE DAY AT A TIME.

ONE DAY AT A TIME.

ONE DAY AT A TIME.

UNTIL 21 DAYS ARE OVER,

AND

YOU WILL HAVE KICKED THE

HABIT.

Terry: THANKS FOR YOUR

QUESTIONS.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE

HAVE.

WE WANT YOU TO STAY WITH US,

BECAUSE UP NEXT, WE'RE GOING

TO WRAP UP OUR ANNIVERSARY

CELEBRATION.

STAY TUNED.

WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

Terry: IT'S BEAUTIFUL,

ISN'T IT?

Pat: 52 YEARS.

WE'RE GETTING YOUNGER, BEN.

TV IS GETTING BETTER AND

WE'RE GETTING OLDER.

WHAT'S UP WITH THAT?

Pat: I DON'T KNOW.

I'M GOING TO CUT YOU A PIECE

OF CAKE.

I HATE TO CUT THIS.

MAKE IT IS SMALL PIECE --

NOT THAT SMALL!

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: YOU'VE GOTTEN

PRETTY GOOD AT THAT OVER THE

YEARS, MY FRIEND.

Pat: FOLKS, IT'S BEEN

WONDERFUL.

I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU.

THINK OF ALL OF THESE

YEARS.

I THINK OF THAT FIRST

SUNDAY, AND THE ENGINEER

DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING

TO MAKE IT.

SO HE DIDN'T HAVE EVERYTHING

READY.

SO WE WERE SET TO GO AT

12:00, AND WE COULDN'T GET

ON THE AIR UNTIL 3:00.

AND HE SAID, I DIDN'T THINK

WE WERE GOING TO GO ON.

IT ISN'T YOUR YO JOB TO

DECIDE.

IT HAS BEEN A GREAT RIDE.

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM THE PSALMS: "THIS

WAS THE LORD'S DOING.

IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR

EYES."

GOD BLESS YOU.

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.

[APPLAUSE]

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