Christian struggled for a reason to go on in the years following his father's suicide. Plus, Tonya suffered with horrible foot pain for years until a prayer on The 700 Club changed it all.
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LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON.
HE WAS MY ROLE MODEL, THE
GUY I LOOKED UP TO.
Wendy: AND YOU'LL NEVER
BELIEVE WHAT THIS CHILD DID
TO SEE HIS DAD ONE MORE
TIME.
I NEVER FELT SO HAPPY IN
MY LIFE.
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Pat: WELL, THE STANDING
JOKE IN WASHINGTON IS I'M
FROM THE I.R.S. AND I'M HERE
TO HELP YOU.
WHILE WASHINGTON HAS BEEN
FOCUSED ON THE GOVERNMENT
SHUTDOWN AND OBAMACARE, SOME
PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO
FIND OUT WHAT THE I.R.S. WAS
DOING WHEN IT TARGETED TEA
PARTY GROUPS.
Terry: THE I.R.S.
SCANDAL HAS LED TO SOME
INVESTIGATIONS, BUT SO FAR
THERE IS STILL A GREAT DEAL
WE DON'T KNOW.
JOHN JESSUP HAS THE STORY
FROM WASHINGTON.
Reporter: WHEN THE
I.R.S. SCANDAL FIRST BROKE,
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS
CRIED FOUL.
President Obama: IF
YOU'VE GOT THE I.R.S.
OPERATING IN ANYTHING LESS
THAN A NEUTRAL AND
NON-PARTISAN WAY, THEN THAT
IS OUTRAGEOUS.
MY QUESTION ISN'T ABOUT
WHO IS GOING TO RESIGN.
MY QUESTION IS: WHO IS GOING
TO JAIL?
Reporter: BUT NOW,
MONTHS LATER, THE OUTCRY
SOUNDS MORE LIKE A WHIMPER.
ILLIANA JOHNSON HAS BEEN
TRACKING THE SCANDAL FOR THE
CONSERVATIVE WEBSITE AND
MAGAZINE "NATIONAL REVIEW."
SHE TELLS CBN NEWS FIVE
MONTHS AFTER THE I.R.S.
ADMITTED TARGETING
CONSERVATIVE GROUPS FOR
EXTRA SCRUTINY FOR TAX
EXEMPT STATUS, AND DESPITE
THE PRESIDENT'S PROMISES TO
FIND OUT WHAT REALLY
HAPPENED, IT DOESN'T SEEM
LIKE THERE IS AN INDEPTH
INVESTIGATION UNDER WAY TO
GET AT THE TRUTH.
I KNOW FROM A SOURCE IN
THE I.R.S. THAT PEOPLE IN
THE I.R.S. HAVE BEEN
INTERVIEWED BY THE F.B.I.
BUT I HEAR FROM TEA PARTY
GROUPS, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
CONTACTED.
LAWYERS FOR THE TEA PARTY
AND TEA PARTY GROUPS HAVE
YET TO HEAR.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME
KIND OF AN F.B.I.
INVESTIGATION, BUT PERHAPS
NOT AN INCREDIBLY DEEP OR
THOROUGH ONES.
Reporter: BUT LAWMAKERS
ON CAPITOL HILL ARE
INVESTIGATING, TOO, AND
THEY'VE ISSUED SUBPOENAS,
DEMANDING MORE INFORMATION
INTO WHAT THEY CALL THE
INAPPROPRIATE AND
DISAPPROPRIATE TREATMENT OF
TEA PARTY AND TEA PARTY
GROUPS.
I HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING
WRONG.
Reporter: AND THEY'VE
REPORTEDLY NEGOTIATING WITH
LAWYERS FOR LOIS LEARNER,
WHO HAS SINCE RESIGNED.
MEANWHILE, THE LEGAL BATTLES
ARE MOUNTING.
THE NATIONAL ORGANIZATION
FOR MARRIAGE IS SUING THE
I.R.S. FOR PUBLICLY
DISCLOSING PRIVATE,
PROTECTED INFORMATION ABOUT
ITS DONORS, AND THE AMERICAN
CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE,
REPRESENTING MORE THAN 40
CONSERVATIVE GROUPS IN 22
STATES HAS EXPANDED ITS
FEDERAL SUIT, CITING
EVIDENCE THAT TOP I.R.S.
WORKERS TARGETED
CONSERVATIVE ORGANIZATIONS
BASED ON THEIR POLITICAL
BELIEFS.
FOR JOHNSON, SHE BELIEVES
THE BIGGEST SCANDAL IS THE
REVELATION THAT MANY
OFFICIALS AND AGENCIES, WHO
AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE
INVOLVED IN POLITICS, CAN'T
REFRAIN FROM USING THEIR
INFLUENCE AGAINST POLITICAL
OPPONENTS OF THE PARTY IN
POWER.
DEMOCRATS HAVE TRIED TO
MAKE THIS ABOUT WAS THERE A
WHITE HOUSE CONNECTION OR
WASN'T THERE.
AND IF THERE WAS A WHITE
HOUSE CONNECTION, IT IS NOT
WORTH INVESTIGATING.
AND THAT'S REALLY NOT THE
SCANDAL.
THE SCANDAL IS ABOUT THE
INHERENT POLITIZATION OF THE
FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY.
Pat: JAY SECULO FROM
THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW
AND JUSTICE IS WITH US.
JAY, WHAT IS THE DEAL?
THE I.R.S. THINKS THEY CAN
STONE WALL THIS THING AND
SOONER OR LATER IT WILL GO
AWAY?
IS THAT THEIR GAME?
Reporter: PAT, LET ME
TELL YOU THIS.
I KNOW THERE IS NOT A LOT OF
IN NEWS ABOUT THE I.R.S.
CASE.
BUT THERE IS GOING TO BE
SOON.
IN ADDITION TO THE LAWSUIT
WE'VE EXPANDED
SIGNIFICANTLY, INCLUDING
NAMING THE NEW COMMISSIONERS
THAT WERE POINTED IN THE
LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, YOU'VE
GOT SCHULMAN WHO IS NOW A
DEFENDANT, WE'VE ADDED SARAH
HALL INGRAM TO THE LAWSUIT
BECAUSE THE INFORMATION
SHARES THAT TOOK PLACE
VIOLATES THE I.R.S.'S OWN
GUIDELINES.
WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS
THE CHIEF COUNSEL OF THE
INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE
BEING SWORN IN ABOUT WHAT HE
KNEW, AND WHAT THEY DID WHEN
THEY FOUND OUT THIS
TARGETING IS GOING ON.
AND WHAT WE ARE FINDING OUT
IN THIS AMENDED COMPLAINT --
WE LAID OUT THE FACTUAL
SCENARIO ABOUT THE
STATEMENTS MADE BY THE
PRESIDENT ABOUT THE TAX
EXEMPT GROUPS, AND THE
I.R.S. ACTION WITHIN DAYS.
MEETINGS THAT TOOK PLACE AT
THE WHITE HOUSE, AND CHANGES
IN POLICY AT THE I.R.S.
WITHIN DAYS.
WE'VE LAID THIS OUT.
LOOK, IN THIS CASE -- MY
FIRST JOB -- YOU REMEMBER
THIS OUT OF LAW SCHOOL FROM
A LONG TIME AGO -- ONE OF MY
FELLOW LAWYERS IN THAT
OFFICE IS ASSISTING US ON
THIS CASE, JULIAN FORTUNA,
AND WE'VE HAD OFFICES NEXT
TO EACH OTHER, AND WE'VE GOT
THE "A" TEAM OF LITIGATORS.
YOU'VE GOT LOIS LEARNER KIND
OF TAKING THE FIFTH
AMENDMENT.
THE E-MAILS SHOWING THAT THE
F.C.C. WAS GETTING NERVOUS
ILLEGALL INFORMATION
ILLEGALLY FROM THE I.R.S.
THE I.R.S. WAS SENDING
E-MAILS TO THEIR PERSONAL
E-MAIL ACCOUNTS.
AND YOU ASK WHERE DID THOSE
GO?
BUT THE F.B.I. HAS NOT
CONTACTED ONE OF OUR
CLIENTS.
THEY DID SAY IN A PLEADING
THEY FILED IN ONE OF OUR
CASES THERE IS AN ONGOING
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, BUT
NONE OF OUR CLIENTS HAVE
BEEN NOTIFIED.
Pat: SPEAKING OF ERIC
HOLDER, THERE WAS AN EXPOSÉ
THAT APPARENTLY HOLDER HAS
SAID IF YOU GIVE MONEY TO
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTLY OR
OBAMA, YOU WON'T BE
PROSECUTED.
IS THIS KIND OF STUFF GOING
ON?
Reporter: I HEARD ABOUT
THAT, TOO.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS A THE
REALITY OF WHAT GOES ON IN
THE PROSECUTORIAL OFFICES.
YOU CAN'T BUY YOUR WAY OUT
OF AN INDICTMENT.
ERIC HOLDER, I DISAGREE WITH
HIM ON POLICY ISSUES, BUT HE
IS NOT GOING TO DO SOMETHING
LIKE THAT.
LET ME SAY THIS, THOUGH: IT
WAS ERIC HOLDER THAT SAID
LET'S OPEN UP THE CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION WITH THE
I.R.S. AND NOTHING
HAPPENED.
I DON'T PUT MUCH TRUST IN
WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE IS DOING, BUT I
DON'T THINK ERIC HOLDER -- I
DIDN'T HEAR THE STATEMENT.
IF HE SAID IT, I'M SURE IT
WAS INGEST.
IN GEST.
WE HAD EDUCATIONAL
ORGANIZATIONS, PRO LIFE
ORGANIZATIONS, AND THE FACT
THAT THE I.R.S. IS GOING TO
BE COORDINATING THE
ENFORCEMENT OF OBAMACARE,
HAS TO ALSO RAISE THE
CONCERN LEVEL
SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND WITH THE UNBELIEVABLY
POOR ROLLOUT OF THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, WHICH
APPEARS TO BE NEITHER
AFFORDABLE OR GIVING MUCH
CARE TO ANYONE AT THIS
POINT -- WHEN YOU LOOK AT
ALL OF THAT AND THE MULTIPLE
CHALLENGES AGAINST THE
OBAMACARE LITIGATION THAT IS
GOING ON, ON MULTIPLE
FRONTS -- WE'VE GOT EIGHT
CASES THAT WE'VE WON'T,
INCLUDING AT THE COURTS OF
APPEAL LEVEL, AND A LOT ARE
ON THE WAY TO THE SUPREME
COURT -- THE REALITY IS,
PAT, OBAMACARE WITH THE
I.R.S. ENGAGEMENT, THAT IS
NOT A GOOD SITUATION FOR THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE.
Pat: TELL ME THE
POSTURE OF THE ACLJ ABOUT
THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT?
THERE ARE SOME OF PIEC OF
THESE PEOPLE YOU'RE GOING TO
DEFEND?
WHAT'S THE STORY?
WE HAVE ACTUALLY FILED
EIGHT FEDERAL LAWSUITS
THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY,
AROUND THE COUNTRY, CHARGING
AND CHALLENGING PORTIONS OF
THE MANDATES THAT ARE IN
PLACE.
IN THREE OF THEM, WE'VE
REACHED THE COURT OF APPEALS
LEVEL.
WE WON AT THREE COURT OF
APPEALS LEVEL.
I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT CASE
IS GOING TO THE SUPREME
COURT OF THE UNITED STATES.
SO THAT'S ONE MAJOR
CHALLENGE.
THERE IS ANOTHER CHALLENGE
TO THE STATE EXCHANGE
SITUATION WHERE THE CREDITS
WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE
PLACE.
YET THE I.R.S. CAME IN
SAYING TO EMPLOYERS, YOU
HAVE TO STILL MEET THESE
MINIMAL POLICY LIMITS, EVEN
THOUGH THERE WAS NO STATE
EXCHANGE SET UP, AND WE'RE
GOING TO PENALIZE YOU IF YOU
DON'T.
JUDGE FREEMAN IN WASHINGTON,
D.C. TWO DAYS AGO ALLOWED
THAT LITIGATION TO PROCEED.
SO THERE IS LITIGATION, PAT,
ON MULTIPLE FRONTS ON THIS.
AND THEN YOU TAKE OUT AND
JUST LOOK AT THE ROLLOUT,
WHERE THE GOVERNMENT WAS
INCAPABLE OF GETTING A
WEBSITE TO WORK.
WE LAUNCHED ONE AT THE ACLJ
THAT SAYS "I CAN'T ENROLL
.COM," AND WE BELIEVE MORE
PEOPLE HAVE SIGNED THAT ONE
THAN HAVE ACTUALLY SIGNED UP
FOR OBAMACARE.
Pat: JAY, WHAT IS THE
PRESS DOING WITH THE CASES
YOU'VE GOT?
THESE ARE PRETTY SERIOUS
THINGS.
THE MALFEASANCE OF THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION IS
LEGENDARY.
WHY DOESN'T THE PRESS BEGIN
TO PLAY ON IT?
CBN NEWS HAS DONE A
FANTASTIC JOB OF COVERAGE,
BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU LOOK
AT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, IT
BARELY GETS A MENTION.
EVEN WHEN THE LAWSUITS WERE
FILED AGAINST THE I.R.S. OR
WHEN THE MANDATE CASES WERE
MOVING FORWARD -- BARELY
GETS A MENTION.
THAT'S DUE IN LARGE PART OF
THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA.
THEY DON'T LIKE THE
NARRATIVE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T
LOOK GOOD FOR THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION.
THE PRESIDENT SAID WHAT THE
I.R.S. DID WAS WRONG AND HE
WAS GOING TO GET TO THE
BOTTOM OF IT.
AND FOUR WEEKS LATER THEY
WERE CALLING IN A SCANDAL,
AFTER LOIS LEARNER TOOK THE
FIFTH AMEND.
FIFTH AMENDMENT.
THE PRE PRESS HAS BASICALLY
BEEN A SHIELD FOR THE
PRESIDENT.
FOX NEWS IS REPORTING IT AND
CBN NEWS, BUT IT IS NOT
GETTING THE ATTENTION THAT
IT WOULD IF IT WAS A
REPUBLICAN.
Pat: IS LOIS LEARNER
GOING TO JAIL?
I KNOW SHE TOOK THE FIFTH,
BUT IT IS NOT EXCULPATORY
FOR ALL OF THE THINGS SHE
DID?
I THINK SHE IS GOING TO
GET SOME FORM OF IMMUNITY.
I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A
FACT, BUT I SUSPECT SHE IS
GOING TO GET SOME FORM OF
IMMUNITY, AND SHE IS GOING
TO, AS THEY SAY IN CRIMINAL
CASES, SING LIKE A BIRD.
AND THAT SHE WAS NOT THE
ULTIMATE AUTHORITY ON IT AND
IT WENT MUCH HIGHER.
AND THAT'S RIGHT, MUCH
HIGHER, RIGHT TO THE CHIEF
COUNSEL OF THE OFFICE OF THE
I.R.S.
THE COMMISSIONER OF THE
INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE AND
THE CHIEF COUNSEL -- WE HAVE
NOW SUED THEM BOTH.
SHE KIND OF TOOK THE FIFTH
AMENDMENT, THE WAY SHE TOOK
IT WAS A QUESTION.
I WON'T BE SURPRISED IF
THERE IS SOME KIND OF
IMMUNITY.
THIS IS THE AMENDED
LAWSUIT.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS
THICK.
THIS IS ALL OF THE FACTS
THAT WE'VE GOT THAT HAVE
COME OUT WITH THE
CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS AND
FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.
WE'RE IN COURT, AND WAITING
TO SEE WHAT THE GOVERNMENT
COMES BACK WITH THEIR
RESPONSE.
Pat: I APPRECIATE WHAT
YOU'RE DOING.
JAY SECULO WITH THE AMERICAN
CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE,
AND WE'RE FIGHTING FOR YOU.
IT IS THE PUBLIC SERVICE LAW
ORGANIZATION IN AMERICA.
AND WINNING LEGENDARY
CASES.
SO JAY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT
SOME OF THE OTHERS WE'VE GOT
GOING.
ESPECIALLY THE ONE ABOUT
PLANNED PARENTHOOD, WHICH IS
MONSTEROUS.
BUT IN ANY EVENT, IT IS TIME
SOMEBODY CALLED THESE
OUTFITS INTO ACCOUNT.
THIS IS POINTING TO -- AS HE
SAYS, IT IS NOT JUST THE
CHIEF COUNSELLOR AND THE
COMMISSIONER, HE IS POINTING
STRAIGHT TO THE WHITE HOUSE
ITSELF AND TO THE
PRESIDENT.
WELL, CONGRESS IS LOOKING
INTO THE FAILURE OF THE
OBAMACARE WEBSITE.
SO WHAT ELSE IS NEW?
JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY.
Reporter: PAT, THAT'S
RIGHT.
CONGRESS IS HEARING FROM THE
PRIMARY CONTRACTORS WHO
WORKED ON THE ONLINE
EXCHANGES FOR OBAMACARE.
AND THEY SAY THE
ADMINISTRATION SHARES
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE
SYSTEM'S PROBLEMS.
AN EXECUTIVE AT C.G.I., THE
MAIN SOFTWARE COMPANY THAT
WORKED ON THE WEBSITE, SAYS
THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND
HUMAN SERVICES IS THE
QUARTERBACK OF THE PROJECT.
AND THE HEARING COMES AS
PRESIDENT OBAMA'S SUPPORTERS
ARE STARTING TO WORRY ABOUT
THE POLITICAL FALLOUT.
CHILDREN IN FOSTER CARE CAN
END UP OF VICTIMS OF SEX
TRAFFICKING.
THAT WAS THE TESTIMONY FROM
A 24-YEAR-OLD COLLEGE
STUDENT AND SEX TRAFFICKING
SURVIVOR.
SHE WAS IN THE FOSTER CARE
SYSTEM UNTIL SHE WAS 18, AND
FOR SEVEN OF THOSE YEARS,
SHE WAS A CHILD SEXUALLY
TRAFFICKED ON THE STREETS,
THE INTERNET, AND FOSTER
CARE.
ORTEZ WALKERGRU SAYS SOME
TELL KIDS THEY DON'T CARE
ABOUT THEM, ONLY THE
PAYCHECK THEY GET.
MAKING THE KIDS FEEL LIKE
THEY'RE BEING USED FOR
MONEY.
SHE THINKS THE SYSTEM CAN BE
IMPROVED, AND IS URGING THE
GOVERNMENT TO PROTECT YOUNG
KIDS IN FOSTER CARE.
AND WHAT MAKES HER STORY SO
TRAGIC IS SHE IS ONLY ONE OF
MANY OTHER KIDS CAUGHT UP IN
SEX TRAFFICKING.
Pat: I'M JUST APPALLED
AT THIS WHOLE THING.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THE
THING IS, IF SOMEBODY SELLS
A KE KILO OF HEROIN, HE OR
SHE HAS TO GO OUT AND GET
ANOTHER KILO OF HEROIN.
THEY CAN'T SELL IT AGAIN.
BUT IF THEY'VE GOT SOME
CHILD IN KIDDIE PORN OR AS A
SEX SLAVE.
SHE CAN BE SOLD ONE TIME OR
TWO TIMES OR 10 TIMES A
NIGHT, AND BRING HER BACK
THE NEXT DAY AND DO IT ALL
OVER AGAIN.
AFTER SHE USED HER UP AND
SHE IS TIRED OR EXHAUSTED OR
DISEASED, THEY'LL THROW HER
OUT ON THE STREET AND GO GET
ANOTHER ONE.
IT IS HORRIBLE TO THINK OF
HUMAN BEINGS BEING TREATED
THIS WAY.
I WOULD HAVE NO MERCY -- NO
MERCY -- ON THESE WHO ARE
SEX TRAFFICKERS.
NO MERCY WHATSOEVER.
I THINK THEY'RE THE VIALEST
FORM OF HUMANITY, AND THEY
NEED TO BE DEALT WITH AS THE
MONSTERS AND PREDATORS THEY
ARE.
TERRY?
Terry: UP NEXT, THE
COLLATERAL DAMAGES OF A
CIVIL WAR.
WE'LL HEAD TO A PART OF
EGYPT WHERE THE CHILDREN
DON'T CARE WHO IS IN
CHARGE.
INSTEAD, THEY CARE ABOUT
WHERE THEY'RE GETTING THEIR
NEXT MEAL.
FIND OUT HOW THEY'RE BEING
HELPED.
THAT'S NEXT.
Pat: AS YOU KNOW FROM
PRESS REPORTS, THE MUSLIM
BROTHERHOOD WAS THE MOST
POWERFUL POLITICAL
ORGANIZATION IN EGYPT AT THE
FALL OF THE MUBARAK REGIME.
AND WHEN THEY TOOK POWER AND
ELECTED MOHAMMED MORSI AS
PRESIDENT, THEY LAUNCHED A
DICTATORSHIP WHICH WAS A
NANMA TO THE EGYPTIAN
PEOPLE.
WELL, THEY HAD A REVOLUTION,
AND THE ARMY TOOK OVER, AND
THE MORSI GOVERNMENT FELL.
AND IT NO LONGER DOMINATES
THE NEWS.
BUT THE TROUBLES THERE ARE
FAR FROM OVER.
THE ECONOMY OF EGYPT IS IN
SHAMBLES.
AND CHILDREN ARE AMONG THE
HARDEST HIT.
SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN
HELPING THEIR FAMILIES BY
GOING THROUGH THE GARBAGE.
BUT AS GARY LANE TELLS US,
CBN IS THERE IN EGYPT TO
HELP PEOPLE IMPROVE THEIR
LIVES.
Reporter: THE RECENT
WAVE OF VIOLENCE AND
DESTRUCTION ROLLING ACROSS
EGYPT HAS TAKEN A TOLL ON
YOUNGER GENERATIONS THERE.
SOME CHILDREN SUFFER
TRAUMA.
MANY OLDER KIDS WONDER IF
HOPE AND OPPORTUNITY WILL BE
RESTORED.
EGYPT'S CONSTITUTION
GUARANTEES ALL CHILDREN A
FREE EDUCATION.
BUT MANY HAVE TO DROP OUT OF
SCHOOL TO SUPPORT THEIR
FAMILIES.
EVEN IF THEY DO GET AN
EDUCATION, IT'S ALMOST
IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A JOB.
BECAUSE THE YOUTH
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE HERE IS
25%.
WHILE EGYPTIAN LAW REQUIRES
SCHOOL ATTENDANCE FOR KIDS
AGES 6 TO 14, MANY YOUNG
CHILDREN DON'T GO.
AND A THIRD OF GIRLS IN
UPPER EGYPT NEVER ATTEND
SCHOOL.
KIDS LIKE THESE TWO BOYS
HANG OUT ON THE STREETS,
TRYING TO HUSTLE A FEW
EGYPTIAN POUNDS EACH DAY.
THEY WORK FROM DAWN TO DUST,
SIFTING THROUGH GARBAGE,
SEARCHING FOR RECYCLABLES.
WHEN I GET UP IN THE
MORNING, I START COLLECTING
CAR TOTONS AND CANS.
Reporter: 90% OF THE
GARAGE COLLECTED COMES HERE
TO A PLACE CALLED GARBAGE
CITY.
IF THE CHILDREN ARE TO HAVE
A BRIGHTER FUTURE, THEY NEED
QUALITY HYGIENE AND A BETTER
EDUCATION.
MOST OF THE DAY THEY ARE
IN THE STREETS COLLECTING
PLASTIC BOTTLES AND CARTONS,
AND NO ONE IS LOOKING AFTER
THEM OR CARING FOR THEIR
NEEDS OR EDUCATION.
IT IS A BIG PROBLEM, BUT THE
MAIN ISSUE IS WITH THE
PARENTS.
THEY DO NOT SEE THE NEED TO
PROVIDE OR CARE FOR A CHILD
THEY HAVE BROUGHT INTO THIS
WORLD.
Reporter: HOTA IS AN
EGYPTIAN MOTHER WHO WORKS
WITH CBN TO HELP STREET
CHILDREN.
THESE CHILDREN HAVE NO
ONE TO LOOK AFTER THEM.
SO THEY COME TO OUR CENTER
AND WE GIVE THEM A SHOWER.
Reporter: WHILE THE
KIDS CLEAN UP, WORKERS WASH,
DRY, AND FOLD THEIR
CLOTHES.
AFTER THE SHOWER, THE KIDS
PUT ON CLEAN OUTFITS.
THEN IT IS TIME FOR
COLORING, A HOT MEAL, AND
LEARNING SOME BASICS.
I LIKE LEARNING,
ESPECIALLY WRITING AND
COLORING.
THIS IS WHAT I LIKE.
Reporter: AND BEFORE
THEY RETURN HOME FOR THE
NIGHT, BASHOY AND THE OTHER
KIDS ENJOY PLAYING SOME
GAMES.
THE CHILDREN ARE VERY
GRATEFUL THAT SOMEONE IS
TAKING CARE OF THEM AND
LOOKING AFTER THEIR NEEDS.
THE FAMILIES OF THESE
CHILDREN ARE ALSO VERY HAPPY
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO
PAY US OR GIVE US ANYTHING
IN RETURN.
Reporter: WHAT
MOTIVATES THE WOMEN AND
STAFF WHO GIVE CARE AND
EDUCATION TO THESE
CHILDREN?
GOD HAS BLESSED US SO WE
MAY GIVE TO OTHERS AND BLESS
THEM.
THESE CHILDREN NEED SUPPORT
AND UNDERSTANDING IF THEY
ARE TO BEAR FRUIT IN THE
FUTURE.
I HOPE AMERICANS WILL
CONTINUE TO ASSIST US IN
MEETING THEIR NEEDS.
COME AND GIVE US A HAND.
I'M VERY HAPPY HERE AND I
WANT TO KEEP ON COMING.
Reporter: SO IN THE
MIDST OF A VOLATILE
POLITICAL CRISIS, CBN AND
ITS PARTNERS ARE HELPING
EGYPTIAN CHILDREN RISE ABOVE
THE REFUGE, BRINGING THEM
VALUE AND THE PROMISE OF A
BETTER TOMORROW.
GARY LANE, CBN NEWS, CAIRO.
Pat: YOU LOOK AT THE
FACES OF THOSE CHILDREN, AND
YOU CAN SEE WHY JESUS CHRIST
SAID FOR THE LITTLE CHILDREN
TO COME UNDER ME, SUCH AS
THE KINGDOM OF GOD.
SWEET, INNOCENT LITTLE
CHILDREN.
THEIR ANGELS ALWAYS BEHOLD
THE FACE OF MY FATHER IN
HEAVEN, IS WHAT JESUS SAID.
AND YET HOW THEY'RE BEING
MISTREATED AROUND THE
WORLD.
BUT GOD LOVES THEM, AND WE
LOVE THEM.
SO IF YOU WANT TO DO
SOMETHING FOR THEM, FOR CBN,
FOR THE CHILDREN, REACHING
OUT TO THE CHILDREN WHO ARE
HURTING, JUST JOIN "THE 700
CLUB."
IT IS THAT EASY.
65 CENTS A DAY.
THIS IS PART OF WHAT WE DO,
TO REACH OUT IN EGYPT, TO
REACH OUT IN LATIN-AMERICA,
TO REACH OUT WHEREVER PEOPLE
ARE HURTING, AND TO HELP
LITTLE CHILDREN WHO ARE
BEING TRAFFICKED.
WHATEVER IS GOING ON, WE'RE
THERE TO TRY TO HELP.
IN YOUR NAME, WE'RE DOING
IT.
IT IS 1-800-759-0700.
JUST 65 CENTS A DAY, AND YOU
CAN BE A "700 CLUB" MEMBER.
AND WE NEED YOUR
PARTICIPATION.
WELL, TERRY, THERE IS MORE
EXCITING THINGS -- THERE ARE
MORE EXCITING THINGS TO TALK
ABOUT?
Terry: ALWAYS.
COMING UP, A RUNNER WITH A
PAINFUL PROBLEM.
I ACQUIRED WHAT WAS A
RUNNER'S FRACTURE IN MY
FOOT.
AND THE DOCTOR HAD SAID THAT
I HAD ACTUALLY BEEN RUNNING
ON A BROKEN FOOT FOR AT
LEAST TWO YEARS.
Terry: 10 MORE YEARS OF
PAIN FOLLOWED, UNTIL IT
DISAPPEARED IN AN INSTANT.
SEE HOW THAT HAPPENED WHEN
WE COME BACK.
Pat: FEET, SHOES, WE
SHOWED YOU YESTERDAY WHAT
ILL-FITTING SHOES WERE DOING
TO YOU AND HOW THEY WERE
CAUSING PAIN.
I WAS JUST TALKING TO
TERRY.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO THINK
THAT THERE ARE AREAS IN YOUR
FEET THAT REFLECT
DEEP-SEATED PROBLEMS
THROUGHOUT YOUR BODY.
AND THE PRESSURE POINTS IN
YOUR FEET CAN ACTUALLY
ALLEVIATE THINGS IN YOUR
SPLEEN AND KIDNEYS AND
HEART --
Terry: LIVER.
I HAD THAT HAPPEN A COUPLE
OF YEARS AGO, WHERE A WOMAN
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW SAID -- I
WAS DOING A LOT OF STANDING,
AND SHE SAID, CAN I COME
BACK STAGE AND RUB YOUR
FEET.
SHE CAME BACK AND STARTED
PUTTING THE PRESSURE POINTS
IN, AND SHE SAID, DO YOU
HAVE THIS AND DO YOU HAVE
THAT, AND SHE WAS RIGHT ON
THE MONEY.
Pat: WAS SHE REALLY?
Terry: YES, SHE WAS.
BUT IT WAS PAINFUL.
AND SHE WOULD JUST PUT THE
PRESSURE ON AND HOLD IT, AND
IT WAS AMAZING.
I THINK YOU CAN CAUSE SOME
CORRECTION FROM THAT.
Pat: WELL, I THINK WE
SHOULD.
ANYHOW, THERE WAS A RUNNER
WHO'S NAME WAS TANYA
KIMBERLY, AND SHE HAD A LOT
OF PROBLEMS, TOO.
WITH EVERY STEP, SHE FELT
PAIN ALL OVER FOR AN
INCREDIBLE 12 YEARS.
UNTIL ONE DAY SHE WATCHED A
TELEVISION PROGRAM, "THE 700
CLUB."
I ALWAYS ENJOYED RUNNING,
SINCE I WAS PROBABLY IN MY
20s.
I ACQUIRED WHAT WAS A
RUNNER'S FRACTURE IN MY
FOOT.
THE DOCTOR HAD SAID I
ACTUALLY HAD BEEN RUNNING ON
A BROKEN FOOT FOR AT LEAST
TWO YEARS.
UNFORTUNATELY, ONE OF THE
THINGS ALONG WITH THAT WAS
THAT I GOT ARTHRITIS IN THAT
SAME FOOT, IN MY RIGHT
FOOT.
AND THEN THEY SAID THAT IS
SOMETHING I WOULD ALWAYS
HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
AND I RECEIVED A CORTISONE
SHOT TO TRY TO, YOU KNOW,
DEADEN THE PAIN, BUT THAT
WAS ONLY A TEMPORARY FIX.
IN TOTAL, ABOUT 12 YEARS OF
PAIN, I MEAN, JUST
CONSISTENTLY.
NEVER ONE DAY WITHOUT THE
PAIN.
JUST ONE DAY, WATCHING "THE
700 CLUB," AND TERRY HAD A
WORD OF KNOWLEDGE.
SHE WAS PRAYING.
AND EVERY TIME I WOULD HEAR
THEM START TO PRAY, I WOULD
SIT DOWN.
AND THEY ALWAYS SAY, GRAB
THAT AREA OF YOUR BODY THAT
YOU NEED PRAYER FOR.
SO I DID.
I GRABBED MY FOOT, AND I PUT
ONE HAND OVER MY HEART.
AND SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, YOUR
TOES ARE HURTING, AND THE
LORD IS TAKING THAT FROM YOU
RIGHT NOW.
Terry: YOU HAVE A FOOT
PROBLEM.
IT IS SOMETHING WITH THE
BONES IN YOUR TOES.
GOD IS HEALING THAT FOR
YOU.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE
THAT PAIN ANYMORE.
Reporter: I JUST OPENED
MY EYES ALL OF A SUDDEN, AND
I LOOKED AT THE TV, AND I
SAID, THAT'S FOR ME.
AND I JUST STARTED THANKING
THE LORD FOR IT RIGHT AWAY.
I STOOD UP, AND BELIEVING
THAT I WAS HEALED, AND I
DIDN'T HAVE ANY PAIN.
SO I EVEN THOUGHT TO MYSELF
RIGHT AWAY, OH, IT'S MIND
OVER MATTER, MAYBE.
BUT I'M, LIKE, NO, I REALLY
DON'T HAVE ANY PAIN FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN 12 YEARS.
NOW I CAN ACTUALLY MOVE MY
TOE, WHICH IS SOMETHING
BRAND NEW.
I COULD NEVER DO THAT.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE MAIN
THING THAT BILL WAS ABLE TO
SEE EVIDENCE WHEN I, YOU
KNOW, TOLD HIM.
HE'S KIND OF, LIKE, REALLY?
SHE TOOK HER SHOE OFF AND
SHE WAS MOVING HER TOE
FREELY.
AND I DIDN'T SEE THIS
REDNESS AND SWOLLEN AND THE
VEINS JUST POP OUT ON TOP.
THAT WAS ALL GONE.
IT IS WONDERFUL TO BE
ABLE TO RUN.
I LIKE TO RUN A FEW TIMES A
WEEK.
ABOUT FIVE TO SEVEN MILES.
SO I REALLY AM VERY THANKFUL
THAT I CAN GET BACK INTO THE
LIFESTYLE OF DOING THAT.
I WAS JUST AMAZED.
WOW, THESE THINGS REALLY DO
HAPPEN.
GOD IS NOT JUST A BIG
GOD.
HE'S A LITTLE GOD, TOO.
YOU KNOW, HE CARES ABOUT THE
BIG STUFF, BUT HE LOVES US
ENOUGH TO CARE ABOUT THE
LITTLE STUFF.
THAT IS TRULY, TRULY
AMAZING.
Pat: TERRY, YOU DIDN'T
KNOW THAT WOMAN?
Terry: I STILL DON'T
KNOW HER, BUT I SURE AM
REJOICING WITH HER.
Pat: YOU DIDN'T KNOW
ANYTHING ABOUT HER FOOT OR
HER TOES OR ANYTHING.
BUT TO THINK OF THE PAIN
EVERY STEP.
YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT YOUR
FEET UNTIL THEY START
HURTING.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN
THEY OCCUPY THE BIGGEST PART
OF YOUR LIFE.
Terry: BUT HOW AMAZING
TO KNOW THAT GOD DOES, AS
SHE SAID, CARE ABOUT
EVERYTHING IMPACTING OUR
LIVES.
Pat: IF YOU'RE IN PAIN
AND YOU'RE A CHILD OF GOD,
HE FEELS YOUR PAIN.
WE DON'T HAVE A GOD WHO IS
NOT TOUCHED WITH THE FEELING
OF OUR INFIRMITIES.
THIS IS JEANNIE WHO LIVED IN
A PLACE CALLED WILDWOOD
FLORIDA, AND SHE HAD SHARP
PAINS IN HER STOMACH AFTER
EVERY MEAL.
THE DISCOMFORT LASTED FROM
10 MINUTES TO AN HOUR, AND
THE PROBLEM EXISTED FOR SIX
WHOLE YEARS.
EARLIER SHE WAS WATCHING
THIS PROGRAM AND SHE HEARD
TERRY GIVE A WORD, "YOU HAVE
SOME KIND OF NODULE THAT
INVADING YOUR STOMACH, AND
GOD IS HEALING THAT FOR YOU
AND YOU'LL BE SET FREE."
AND SH SHE SAID, THAT'S
ME.
AND THE NEXT TIME SHE ATE A
MEAL, SHE HAD NO AFTER
EFFECTS.
AND JEANNIE IN WILDWOOD,
FLORIDA, SAID I AM HEALED.
Terry: CAROLYN HAD
LIMITED MOVEMENT OF HER
NECK.
SHE HAD A PLATE INSERTED ON
THE VERTEBRAE OF HER NECK,
BUT IT DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO
TO ALLEVIATE HER SUFFERING.
ONE DAY WE WERE PRAYING TO
GOD, AND YOU SAID, PAT, YOU
SAID IT HURTS YOU SO MUCH.
CAROLYN PUT HER HAND ON HER
NECK AND CLAIMED THE
HEALING.
AND ONE DAY SHE WAS RIDING
IN THE CAR AND TURNED HER
HEAD AND REALIZED SHE DIDN'T
HAVE ANY PAIN.
AND NOW SHE IS TOTALLY FREE
FROM THE BONDAGE OF PAIN.
Pat: LOOK, GOOD LOVES
YOU, AND WE'RE GOING TO
PRAY.
AND HE SAYS, WHATEVER YOU
ASK THE FATHER IN MY NAME,
THAT WILL I DO, THAT THE
FATHER MAY BE GLORIFIED IN
THE SON.
NOW, WE'RE GOING TO ASK, AND
HE IS GOING TO ANSWER.
TERRY AND I WILL JOIN HANDS
TOGETHER, AND WE WILL PRAY
FOR YOU.
ALL WE ASK IS THAT YOU PRAY
WITH US.
AND AS WE JOIN HANDS
TOGETHER RIGHT HERE ON THE
SET, WE'RE GOING TO BELIEVE
FOR YOU.
FATHER, I PRAY WITH MY DEAR
SISTER IN CHRIST.
AND WE AGREE FOR THOSE IN
THIS AUDIENCE WHO ARE
SUFFERING.
THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO HAS AN
ARCH PROBLEM.
YOUR ARCH HAS -- I THINK
SOMETHING FELL ON YOUR ARCH
AND IT BROKE SOME BONES, AND
YOU'VE BEEN HAVING TERRIBLE
PAIN WALKING.
RIGHT NOW THE NAME ARTHUR
COMES TO MY MIND.
THE LORD HAS JUST TOUCHED
YOU.
YOU'LL FEEL A SHARP
ELECTRICITY GO THROUGH YOUR
FOOT.
AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON,
YOU'RE HEALED.
TERRY?
Terry: THERE IS SOMEONE
ELSE, YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF
A CONDITION WITH YOUR HAIR
FOLLICLES.
IT IS NOT WHAT'S COMMONLY
CALLED ALOPECIA.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT
GOD IS HEALING THAT
CONDITION FOR YOU.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.
AND ALL OF THE SYMPTOMS ARE
GOING TO BEGIN TO GO AWAY,
AND YOU'LL BE BACK TO
NORMAL.
Pat: IT SEEMS LIKE
THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT WITH A
WELDING TORCH OR A LASER OR
SOME KIND OF A LIGHT IN AN
INDUSTRIAL SETTING, BUT YOU
SCARRED YOUR EYES.
AND THEY'VE BEEN IN REAL BAD
TROUBLE.
RIGHT NOW GOD IS REACHING IN
AND HEALING THAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 20/20,
AND YOU'LL BE COMPLETELY
WHOLE.
PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR EYES
IN JESUS' NAME.
THANK YOU.
Terry: SOMEONE ELSE,
YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH YOUR
HEARING.
IT IS NOT GONE COMPLETELY,
BUT IT IS ALMOST LIKE YOU
HEAR IN A LONG TUNNEL.
GOD IS JUST OPENING THAT UP
FOR YOU.
YOUR HEARING IS GOING TO BE
COMPLETELY RESTORED.
Pat: SOMEBODY BY THE
NAME JEFF, I BELIEVE, IS
PRAYING FOR $50,000.
THE LORD SAID, I'VE HEARD
YOUR PRAYER.
I'LL SUPPLY THE FUNDS YOU
NEED.
WE PRAY NOW IN THE NAME OF
JESUS.
RECEIVE AN ANSWER.
AMEN.
Terry: AMEN.
Pat: PRAISE GOD.
I ASK YOU, IF YOU WISH FOR
FURTHER PRAYER, THOSE
TELEPHONES ARE AVAILABLE.
THEY'RE TOLL-FREE.
IT WON'T COST YOU A CENT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOUR
NAME OR ANYTHING.
CALL.
SOMEBODY IS ON THE PHONE WHO
LOVES YOU.
IF YOU WANT SOMEBODY TO PRAY
WITH YOU, JUST PICK UP THE
PHONE AND SAY, LISTEN, I'VE
GOT LUPUS OR THIS, THAT, AND
THE OTHER, AND I ASK YOU TO
PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER,
AND WE'LL BELIEVE GOD WITH
YOU.
BY THE WAY, WE GOT A CALL
THE OTHER DAY FROM T.B. N.
THAT PAUL CROUTCH HAD SOME
PROBLEM WHILE HE WAS
DRIVING.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, A
HEART ATTACK, AND WE'VE BEEN
PRAYING.
I ASK YOU TO PRAY FOR OUR
DEAR FRIEND, PAUL CROUTCH.
HIS STAFF HAS ASKED FOR
PRAYER A COUPLE OF DAYS
AGO.
I'LL ADD WE'RE PRAYING FOR
HIM, AND HE IS A DEAR
FRIEND.
ALL RIGHT.
STILL AHEAD, IT IS TIME TO
"BRING IT ON" WITH YOUR
E-MAIL QUESTIONS.
TAMMY SAYS: "ONE WOMAN I
WORK WITH IS POISONOUS.
MY MANAGER REALIZES THIS,
BUT SHE CHOSE TO BRUSH IT
OFF.
I'VE CONFRONTED HER, BUT I
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
NEXT."
I'LL DO MY BEST RIGHT AFTER
THIS.
STAY TUNED.
AND WELCOME BACK TO "THE
700 CLUB."
THREE U.S. SENATORS ARE
URGING THE STATE DEPARTMENT
TO RESPOND TO ATTACKS
AGAINST CHRISTIANS IN
EGYPT.
SINCE THE OUSTER OF MOHAMMED
MORSI, DOZENS OF COPTIC
CHURCHES HAVE BEEN BURNED,
AND THE COPTIC MINORITY IS
CONSTANTLY ATTACKED BY
MUSLIMS.
REPORTS THAT EGYPTIAN
AUTHORITIES ARE NOT DOING
ANYTHING TO PROTECT THEM ARE
ESPECIALLY TROUBLING.
THE SENATORS SAY THE ATTACKS
ON CHRISTIANS HAVE
ENDANGERED THEIR ABILITY TO
WORSHIP.
THEY WANT THE U.S. TO URGE
EGYPT'S GOVERNMENT TO
PROTECT COPTIC CHRISTIAN
CHURCHES, COMMUNITIES, AND
INDIVIDUALS.
STROKES ARE INCREASINGLY
AFFECTING YOUNGER PEOPLE,
ACCORDING TO A NEW STUDY OUT
OF LONDON.
THE NUMBER OF STROKES IN
PEOPLE AGES 20 TO 64 HAS
JUMPED BY A QUARTER.
THAT MEANS THE NUMBER OF
STROKES WORLDWIDE COULD
DOUBLE BY 2030.
RESEARCHERS SAY MOST STROKES
STILL HAPPEN TO THE ELDERLY,
BUT THERE IS A GROWING
NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE WITH
RISK FACTORS FOR STROKE,
WHICH INCLUDES OBESITY,
DIABETES AND HIGH BLOOD
PRESSURE.
REMEMBER YOU CAN ALWAYS GET
THE LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY
GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT
CBNNEWS.COM.
PAT AND? TERRY WILL BE BACK
WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"
RIGHT AFTER THIS.
Terry: WELL, IT IS TIME
TO "BRING IT ON" WITH YOUR
E-MAIL QUESTIONS.
PAT, THIS FIRST ONE COMES
FROM TAMMY, WHO SAYS, "I
WORK WITH A SMALL GROUP OF
WOMEN.
WE ALL WORK WELL TOGETHER,
WITH ONE EXCEPTION.
SHE IS POISON.
MY MANAGER REALIZES THIS,
BUT CHOOSES TO BRUSH IT
OFF.
I'VE CONFRONTED HER AND
PRAYED FOR HER, BUT I'M AT A
LOSS FOR WHAT TO DO NEXT."
Pat: WELL, YOU MIGHT
LOOK AT THE BIBLE AND SHOW
HER AT WHAT GOD SAID AT THE
TOWER OF BABEL.
IT SAYS THESE PEOPLE HAVE
ONE MIND AND SPEAK WITH ONE
VOICE, AND NOW NOTHING THEY
PROPOSE WILL BE IMPOSSIBLE.
IF YOU HAVE A DISRUPTIVE
INFLUENCE, YOU WILL NOT
ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING.
THE BIBLE SAYS VERY CLEARLY,
DRIVE OUT A SCOFFER AND
STRIFE WILL CEASE.
IT BREAKS THE COHESION.
INSTEAD OF WORKING TOGETHER,
ALL YOU'RE TRYING TO DO IS
DEFEND YOURSELF ABOUT THIS
SHARP--TONGUED WOMAN.
IF THE MANAGER DOESN'T SEE
THAT, HE IS HURTING
HERSELF.
MAYBE THE ANSWER IS TO SAY,
LOOK, YOU'RE GOING TO KILL
YOUR OWN CHANCE OF PROMOTION
BECAUSE THIS GROUP ISN'T
WORKING BECAUSE OF HER.
Terry: THIS IS
CHERISH -- A PRETTY NAME:
"I'M GOING THROUGH A NASTY
DIVORCE.
MY HUSBAND IS A NON-BELIEVER
AND IS LEAVING ME.
I KNOW IT SAYS IN 1
CORINTHIANS, IF A
NON-BELIEVE WANTS TO GO, WE
SHOULD LET THEM LEAVE.
AT WHAT POINT DOES THE
CHILDREN COME INTO PLAY?
IS IT WRONG IF I WANT FULL
CUSTODY.
I WANT TO PROTECT THEM FROM
HIS ABUSIVE ACTIONS AND
BEHAVIOUR."
Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS, IF
THE UNBELIEVER WANTS TO
DEPART, THE BROTHER OR
SISTER IS NOT BOUND.
LET HIM GO.
YOU WANT THE CHILDREN.
THE CHANCES ARE IF HE IS AS
ABUSIVE AS YOU SAY, HE
DOESN'T WANT THE CHILDREN.
BUT MOTHERS ALMOST ALWAYS
HAVE PRECEDENCE IN THE LEGAL
BATTLE WITH CHILDREN.
JUDGES WANT TO PUT CHILDREN
WITH THEIR MOTHERS BECAUSE
THEY'RE BETTER AT PARENTING
OF A YOUNG CHILD THAN THE
FATHERS ARE BECAUSE THE
FATHERS HAVE TO GO WORK,
ETC.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT A GOOD
CLAIM.
DO YOU WANT THE CHILDREN?
OF COURSE, GET THEM.
Terry: ONE THING THAT
IS A WORD OF WISDOM, I'VE
SEEN THAT WITH MY OWN
FRIENDS, DO NOT BAD MOUTH
THE OTHER PARENT, NO MATTER
HOW BAD THEY ARE, BECAUSE IT
IMPACTS CHILDREN.
Pat: THEY WANT TO LOVE
MOTHER AND DADDY.
THEY WANT TO HAVE A SENSE OF
HONORING THEIR FATHER.
AND THE IDEA THAT YOU'RE
SOMEHOW GETTING AN ADVANTAGE
WHEN YOU ARE CONSTANTLY
HARPING ABOUT YOUR EX -- IT
IS VERY GOOD ADVICE, TERRY.
Terry: THIS IS SOMEONE
NAMED TERRY --
Pat: NOT YOU?
Terry: NOT ME.
BUT I WILL LISTEN TO THE
ANSWER.
"HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO THE
RAPTURE?"
Pat: JESUS SAID, NOBODY
KNOWS, EVEN THE ANGELS DON'T
KNOW.
AND EVEN THE SON, WHEN HE
WAS HERE ON EARTH, DIDN'T
KNOW WHEN HE WAS GOING TO
COME BACK.
SO WHEN HE COMES BACK, HE'LL
COME BACK.
AND WHAT HE SAYS IS, OCCUPY
UNTIL I COME.
I THINK THE ANSWER FOR US
ALL OF US IS BLESS AT MANY
AS WE CAN, HELP AS MANY POOR
AS WE CAN, AND SERVE HIM
WHILE WE CAN.
AND HE SAYS, YOU KNOW, TO
THE STEWARD WHO -- HE SAYS
WHEN HE FINDS YOU SO DOING,
GIVING PORTIONS TO YOUR
FELLOW SERVANTS, THE ONE WHO
DOES THAT WILL BE BLESSED BY
THE LORD WHEN HE COMES
BACK.
SO DO WHAT YOU CAN TO HELP
YOUR FELLOWS IN THE LORD.
I WOULDN'T SPEND A LOT OF
TIME WORRYING ABOUT WHEN THE
RAPTURE IS GOING TO HAPPEN
BECAUSE NONE OF US KNOWS.
NOBODY CAN TELL YOU.
I DON'T CARE HOW MANY
PROPHECY CONFERENCES YOU GO
TO, THEY CAN'T TELL YOU.
Terry: ESTER WHO SAYS,
CTRL+ "I HEARD A STORY OF A
WOMAN WHO DIED AND WENT TO
HELL.
SHE TALKED TO SOME PEOPLE
WHO WENT TO HELL, AND THEY
SAID THEY WERE SENT TO HELL
BECAUSE OF HOW THEY WORE
THEIR JEWELRY" -- SOUNDS
LIKE I'M IN TROUBLE --
Pat: YOU'RE GOING TO
HELL, YOU JEZEBELLE.
Terry: NO MORE
TROUSERS.
Pat: THAT DIDN'T
HAPPEN.
DON'T BELIEVE IT.
Terry: THIS IS LAURA
WHO SAYS, "A QUESTION HAS
COME UP IN OUR BIBLE STUDY,
SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO WEIGH
IN.
SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THAT
THE EVENTS DEPICTED IN THE
BO BOOK OF JOB DID NOT
ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE.
INSTEAD, THEY WERE IN
ALAGORY.
WHAT DO YOU THINK?"
Pat: WELL, IT COULD BE
ALAGORY -- WHEN THEY COUNT
THE NUMBER OF DONKIES AND
GOATS YOU HAVE, IT DOESN'T
SOUND LIKE AN ALAGORY.
BUT IT COULD BE PARTIALLY
ALAGORICAL BECAUSE IT SPEAKS
TO PERMANENT TRUTHS ABOUT
GOD'S DEALING WITH MANKIND.
I THINK IN THAT CASE, IT IS
VERY GOOD.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHETHER
ALAGORICAL OR ACTUAL, IT
SPEAKS TO TRUTH.
AND THE TRUTH IS CLEARLY
BIBLICAL AND CLEARLY SPEAKS
TO US TODAY.
Terry: SO WHAT ARE WE
TO LEARN FROM IT, I GUESS?
Pat: I WOULDN'T SPEND A
LOT OF TIME WORRYING ABOUT
THE ALAGORICAL PART BECAUSE
THE TRUTH IS THERE.
IT HAD ENOUGH VORACITY THAT
I THINK IT HAPPENED.
WHO IS TO SAY?
2,000 PLUS 2500 YEARS, MAYBE
4500 YEARS AGO -- WHO
KNOWS.
AND NONE OF US CAN PROVE
IT.
SO I WOULDN'T WORRY ABOUT
IT.
Terry: THAT'S ALL OF
THE TIME WE HAVE FOR YOUR
QUESTIONS TODAY.
BUT WE THANK YOU FOR THEM.
WE DO LOVE TO HEAR FROM
YOU.
PAT?
Pat: MARY WOODS COULD
HAVE PANICKED WHEN SHE
BECAME THE SOUL SUPPORTER
FOR HERSELF AND TWO YOUNG
DAUGHTERS.
BUT MARY DIDN'T PANIC.
INSTEAD, SHE RELIED ON GOD
TO GET HER THROUGH.
TAKE A LOOK.
Reporter: MARY WOODS
LOVES BEING A MOM.
SHE IS WORKING HARD TO
PROVIDE THE BEST FOR THE
GIRLS.
AFTER HER HUSBAND DIED, SHE
FOUND HERSELF RAISING THEM
ALONE.
EVERY DAY I HAVE TO THANK
GOD FOR GIVING ME THE GRACE
AND THE STRENGTH TO GET UP
EVERY MORNING AND BE A MOM
FOR A 7-YEAR-OLD AND A
6-YEAR-OLD, BECAUSE THEY ARE
VERY ENERGETIC, BUT I LOVE
IT.
Reporter: SHE USED TO
STAY AT HOME WITH THE KIDS,
BUT WITH HER HUSBAND GONE,
SHE NEEDED A JOB.
HOW QUICK COULD I GET A
JOB BECAUSE RENT WAS GOING
TO BE DUE THE NEXT MONTH.
I DID NOT KNOW WHAT I WAS
GOING TO DO.
Reporter: SHE DIDN'T
HAVE TO WORRY VERY LONG.
HER FORMER BOSS OFFERED HER
A FULL-TIME JOB.
I SAID, NANCY, I BELIEVE
THIS IS THE LORD.
THANK YOU.
I SAT IN AWE OF HOW GOD
MOVED SO FAST.
Reporter: MARY
FAITHFULLY TITHES AND SHE
ENJOYS GIVING TO CBN.
THE LIVES THAT YOU TOUCH
THAT I SEE IS INCREDIBLE.
THAT'S WHY I'M BLESSED IN
GIVING TO CBN.
Reporter: SHE
ESPECIALLY APPRECIATES CBN'S
ANIMATED SERIES
"SUPERBOOK."
"SUPERBOOK" IS AWESOME
BECAUSE IT IS TEACHING THE
KIDS BIBLICAL VALUES AT
THEIR LEVEL OF
UNDERSTANDING.
Reporter: AND SHE ALSO
ENJOYS BEING PART OF
REACHING PEOPLE WHO
DESPERATELY NEED HELP.
SEEING CBN OUT REACH TO
FAMILIES IN NEED OF HOMES,
WATER, FOOD -- WHEREVER THE
NEED IS -- THAT IS WHAT IS
IMPORTANT.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE LORD
SAYS.
Reporter: MARY
ENCOURAGES EVERYONE TO
SUPPORT CBN.
GIVING FROM YOUR HEART
WITH WILLINGNESS AND
OBEDIENCE TO THE LORD, HE
CAN'T HELP BUT TO BLESS
YOU.
Pat: HE CAN'T BUT TO
BLESS YOU.
GOD LOVES A FAITHFUL,
GENEROUS GIVER.
THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE GOD IS A GIVER.
HE GIVES BECAUSE HE SO LOVED
THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS
ONLY BEGOTTEN SON.
GOD WANTS US, AS HIS
CHILDREN, TO GIVE TO THE
POOR AND NEEDY AND
HELPLESS.
WE'RE HIS HAND EXTENDED.
THOSE WHO JOIN "THE 700
CLUB," WE HAVE SOMETHING
CALLED "HOW SHALL WE NOW
LIVE?"
OUR PRODUCER GOT SCOTT ROSS
AND ME TOGETHER UP ON A
MOUNTAINTOP, AND I ANSWERED
A WHOLE BUNCH OF QUESTIONS.
AND WE TALKED TOGETHER ABOUT
SOME VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES
IN PEOPLE'S LIVE.
Terry: KATHRYN SAID, "I
REALLY ENJOYED "HOW SHALL WE
NOW LIVE," AND I'M LOOKING
FORWARD TO SHARING IT WITH
FAMILY AND FRIENDS."
Pat: WE'LL SEND ONE OF
THESE TO KATHRYN AND OTHERS,
AND SHE HAS ALREADY GOTTEN
ONE BECAUSE SHE IS A "700
CLUB" MEMBER.
Terry: STILL AHEAD, ONE
OF THE HAPPIEST DAYS IN THIS
BOY'S LIFE.
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IT IS THE
DAY SHE TRIED TO COMMIT
SUICIDE.
I KEPT TELLING MYSELF,
I'M GOING TO DIE TODAY.
I'M GOING TO DIE TODAY, AND
I'M HAPPY.
I LEFT THE HOUSE SURE THAT I
WAS GOING TO WALK AWAY AND
BLEED TO DEATH.
Terry: FIND OUT WHY HE
WANTED TO DIE, AND WHAT
SAVED HIS LIFE, AFTER THIS.
Terry: 28 STITCHES,
THAT'S HOW MANY IT TOOK TO
SHOW CHRISTIAN RAMOS BACK
TOGETHER AFTER HE SLASHED
HIS OWN LEFT ARM.
BUT CHRISTIAN NEVER WANTED
TO GET THE STITCHES.
HE WANTED TO BLEED TO
DEATH.
I GOT UP, I WENT TO THE
KITCHEN, AND I GRABBED THE
KNIFE.
I'M JUST SEEING BLOOD COMING
OUT OF MY ARM.
I NEVER FELT SO HAPPY IN MY
LIFE.
IT WAS LIKE CONFIRMATION
THAT THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
Reporter: CHRISTIAN
RAMOS BELIEVED HE HAD REASON
TO BE HAPPY ABOUT DEATH.
HE THOUGHT IT WOULD REUNITE
HIM WITH HIS BELOVED
FATHER.
HE WAS THE MAN I LOVED
GROWING UP.
HE WAS MY ROLE MODEL.
HE WAS THE GUY I LOOKED UP
TO.
Reporter: HE DIDN'T
REALIZE HIS FATHER BATTLED
DEPRESSION AND EVENTUALLY
TOOK HIS OWN LIFE.
CHRISTIAN WAS JUST NINE.
I REALIZED MY DAD WASN'T
GOING TO BE AROUND NO MORE.
I CRIED LIKE I NEVER CRIED
BEFORE.
BECAUSE I KNEW I WAS GOING
TO BE ALONE.
Reporter: AS HE GREW
OLDER, HE STRUGGLED WITH
THOUGHTS OF SUICIDE.
HE SAID HIS FATHER APPEARED
TO HIM IN DREAMS,
ENCOURAGING CHRISTIAN TO
KILL HIMSELF.
I HAD THIS DREAM SO MANY
TIMES.
AND EVERY TIME IT FELT LIKE
IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO
DO.
Reporter: ONE DAY,
CHRISTIAN DECIDED TO JOIN
HIS FATHER.
I KEPT TELLING MYSELF,
I'M GOING TO DIE TODAY.
I'M GOING TO DIE TODAY.
I'M HAPPY.
I'M GOING TO GO WITH MY
FATHER.
I LEFT THE HOUSE SURE I WAS
GOING TO WALK AWAY AND BLEED
TO DEATH.
Reporter: CHRISTIAN
COLLAPSED JUST OUTSIDE HIS
HOUSE.
A STRANGER FOUND HIM AND
RUSHED HIM TO THE HOSPITAL,
WHERE DOCTORS SAVED HIS
LIFE.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT
CHRISTIAN WANTED.
I WAS ANGRY THAT I DIDN'T
GET TO TAKE MY LIFE.
AND ANGRY AT EVERYBODY
BECAUSE I ENDED UP IN THIS
PLACE.
Reporter: CHRISTIAN
WENT THROUGH A PSYCHIATRIC
RECOVERY PROGRAM, WHERE HE
WAS ENCOURAGED TO WRITE TO
EXPRESS HIMSELF.
IN THE BEGINNING IT
STARTED OFF LIKE POETRY.
AND THEN I REALIZED I COULD
DO A RAP SONG.
AND I REMEMBER WRITING A
SONG ABOUT HOW LONELY I
FELT, HOW SAD I WAS.
Reporter: AFTER HIS
RELEASE, CHRISTIAN PURSUED A
CAREER AS A RAPPER.
HE OFTEN WROTE ABOUT HIS
DESIRE TO DIE.
A STRANGER HEARD HIS DARK
LYRICS, AND TEXTED
CHRISTIAN, ASKING HIM TO
TALK TO HIM A FEW MINUTES
ABOUT JESUS CHRIST.
CHRISTIAN WANTED NO PART OF
IT.
OUT OF EVERYBODY, I
DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO HIM.
LOOKING AT HIS FACE, I KNEW
HE WAS A PREACHER.
Reporter: ONE DAY HE
WENT FOR WHAT HE THOUGHT WAS
A CASUAL RIDE WITH A
FRIEND.
HE WAS STUNNED WHEN HIS
FRIEND STOPPED THE CAR AND
HE WAS ABOUT TO ROB A MAN,
AND EXPECTED CHRISTIAN TO
HELP.
I DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK
LIKE A PUNK, SO I DIDN'T
WALK AWAY.
I DID THE WRONG THING.
Reporter: HIS FRIEND
PULLED A GUN ON A MAN.
I KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING
WAS WRONG.
I KNEW THIS PERSON DIDN'T
DESERVE WHAT WE WERE DOING
TO HIM.
Reporter: CHRISTIAN WAS
CAUGHT AND WAS CONVICTED OF
ARMED ROBBERY.
I KNEW I LOST
EVERYTHING.
Reporter: INSTEAD OF
LETTING PRISON DESTROY HIS
LIFE, CHRISTIAN USED THE
TIME TO TURN HIS LIFE
AROUND.
THAT'S WHEN HE REMEMBERED
THE STRANGER WHO HAD TEXTED
HIM ABOUT JESUS.
THIS WAS THE PLACE WHERE
I KNEW, YOU KNOW, THAT IT
WAS THE BEGINNING FOR
SOMETHING GOOD, FOR
SOMETHING GREAT.
I WAS GOING TO BE A CHANGED
MAN.
I WANTED TO CHANGE.
THINGS WERE NOT GOING TO BE
THE SAME.
Reporter: CHRISTIAN
STARTED READING HIS BIBLE.
A PRISON GUARD SAW HIM AND
ASKED IF HE HAD ANY
QUESTIONS.
I ASKED HIM, I SAID, HOW
DO I KNOW I HAVE A
RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM?
HOW DO I KNOW GOD REALLY GOT
MY BACK AND HE LIVES IN ME?
Reporter: THE GUARD
EXPLAINS THAT CHRISTIAN
NEEDED TO ASK FOR
FORGIVENESS AND ACCEPT JESUS
CHRIST AS HIS SAVIOR.
ACCEPTING CHRIST WAS JUST
THE BEST FEELING IN THE
WORLD.
MY HEAVENLY FATHER WAS THERE
WITH ME, AFFECTING ME.
I KNEW THAT I WAS MEANT TO
DO GREAT THINGS.
AT THAT MOMENT, I JUST
KNEW.
IN HIS EYES, I WAS HIS
CHILD.
Reporter: CHRISTIAN
READ HIS BIBLE EVERY DAY.
SOON HE NO LONGER FELT THE
PAIN OF LOSING HIS DAD.
I WAS EASY FOR ME TO
FORGIVE MY FATHER THEN
BECAUSE I KNEW I HAD A
FATHER IN HEAVEN, WHO WAS MY
HEAVENLY FATHER, AND HE
LOVES ME.
HE LOVES ME.
Reporter: AFTER NEARLY
TWO YEARS, HE WAS RELEASED
FROM PRISON AND CONTINUES TO
GET CLOSER TO GOD.
CHRISTIAN MARRIED AMANDA,
AND THE RAMOSES ARE
EXPECTING THEIR SECOND
CHILD.
HE RELIES ON HIS HEAVENLY
FATHER TO BE THE TYPE OF DAD
HE DIDN'T HAVE.
NO MATTER WHAT, THE UPS
AND DOWNS, TO KNOW I HAVE A
GOD THAT IS ALWAYS THERE,
ALWAYS THERE FOR ME, IT'S
JUST AMAZING.
Terry: YOU KNOW,
CHRISTIAN IS NOT ANY
DIFFERENT THAN ANY OF US.
WE ALL WANT TO KNOW THAT
WE'RE LOVED, THAT WE HAVE
VALUE.
WE WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE
IS SOMEBODY WHO, AS HE SAID,
HAS OUR BACK AND IS GOING TO
BE THERE FOR US.
WHEN HIS DAD DIED, HE FELT
LIKE HE LOST ALL OF THAT.
YOU KNOW, LIFE IS FULL OF
CHOICES BECAUSE THERE ARE
MANY THINGS THAT CONFRONT
EACH OF US IN OUR LIVES.
NOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A MOMENT
LIKE THAT, A PLACE WHERE YOU
FEEL LOST, WHERE YOU FEEL
LIKE EVERYTHING HAS FALLEN
OUT OF YOUR HANDS AND YOU
CAN'T DO ANYTHING ANYMORE,
YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHO YOU
ARE OR WHAT LIFE IS ABOUT.
HE ALMOST MADE THE WRONG
CHOICE.
THERE WAS A CHRISTIAN PERSON
GOD SENT TO HIM WITH A
MESSAGE ABOUT HIS LOVE.
HE DIDN'T WANT TO HEAR THE
MESSAGE BECAUSE HE HAD MADE
A DIFFERENT CHOICE.
AND YET OUR RELENTLESS GOD,
WHO LOVES US MORE THAN WE
CAN KNOW OR CERTAINLY
UNDERSTAND, CAME AGAIN TO
HIM IN PRISON.
CAME THROUGH HIS WORD.
CAME THROUGH THE PRISON
GUARD.
GOD WILL SEND MANY MESSAGES
TO YOU AND ME SAYING, I'M
OVER HERE; CHOOSE ME.
SO TODAY I WANT TO SAY TO
YOU, SOME TOUGH STUFF HAS
HAPPENED IN LIFE TO YOU.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO
WITH THAT?
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN WALLOW IN
THAT, YOU CAN TAKE HOLD OF
THE BITTERNESS, THE ANGER,
THE PAIN OF THE LOSS, OR YOU
CAN COME HOME TO FATHER,
HEART OF GOD.
HE IS SO BIG.
YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, WHEN
YOU DON'T KNOW HIM, JUST HOW
ABLE HE IS TO LOVE YOUR HURT
AWAY, TO HEAL YOUR
BROKENNESS, TO GIVE YOU A
BRAND NEW BEGINNING.
IF YOU FOCUS ON THAT, YOU'LL
MISS HIM.
IF YOU FOCUS ON HIM, YOU'RE
GOING TO GET EVERYTHING
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO TODAY I WANT TO ASK YOU,
INVITE JESUS CHRIST INTO
YOUR HEART TO BE YOUR
SAVIOR.
SAVIOR FROM WHAT?
THE BIBLE SAYS WE'RE ALL
SINNERS.
EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US FALLS
SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD.
THAT'S WHY JESUS CAME.
IT'S WHY HE DIED, TO COVER
THE SIN THAT IS IN YOUR LIFE
AND IN MINE.
TO GIVE US THE KIND OF FRESH
START, THE POWER TO LIVE
LIFE DIFFERENTLY, AND EVEN
BEYOND THAT.
ETERNITY WITH HIM.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE DESERVE
IT.
IT IS BECAUSE HE IS SO
AMAZING IN HIS LOVE AND HIS
FORGIVENESS AND HIS GRACE.
HIS PLAN FOR YOU AND FOR
ME.
HE WANTS TO BE WITH US.
HE WANTS TO BE WITH YOU.
THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WHAT THE
ENEMY HAS MEANT FOR EVIL GOD
WILL USE FOR GOOD AND WORK
TO YOUR GOOD, IF YOU'LL GIVE
IT TO HIM.
TODAY JUST GET HONEST WITH
GOD.
TELL HIM WHAT YOUR PAIN IS.
TELL HIM WHAT YOUR ANGER IS
ABOUT.
TELL HIM WHAT YOUR
RESENTMENT AND BITTERNESS
IS.
AND THEN SAY, GOD, I'M
GIVING THIS ALL TO YOU.
I'M LIFTING IT UP TO YOU.
I WANT YOU TO INVADE MY
HEART AND MY LIFE.
I WANT TO BE WITH YOU.
I WANT TO BELONG TO YOU.
FATHER, I WANT YOU TO BE MY
DAD.
HE IS A FATHER TO THE
FATHERLESS.
THAT'S WHAT THE WORD OF GOD
SAYS.
AND YOU CAN HAVE THAT
TODAY.
GET REAL WITH GOD.
HE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE.
JUST INVITE HIM INTO YOUR
HEART.
CONFESS YOUR SINS AND ASK
HIM FOR A NEW BEGINNING.
HE SPECIALIZES IN THAT.
THE GOD OF A SECOND CHANCE,
A THIRD CHANCE, A FOURTH
CHANCE.
IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING
SPECIFIC IN YOUR LIFE THAT
YOU WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO
PRAY ABOUT WITH YOU TODAY,
WE HAVE PRAYER COUNSELLORS
STANDING BY.
THERE IS THE NUMBER,
1-800-759-0700.
CALL NOW.
THEY'D LOVE TO PRAY WITH YOU
TODAY.
PAT?
Pat: THANKS, TERRY.
WELL, THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE
HAVE FOR THIS PROGRAM.
TOMORROW HEAR HOW BEEN'S
BASEBALL'S BEST ARE GIVING
THEMSELVES AN EXTRA EDGE IN
THIS YEAR'S WORLD SERIES.
APPARENT MANY BOSTON HAD
THAT EDGE LAST NIGHT.
WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE
WORDS FROM PROVERBS:
"WHOEVER FEARS THE LORD HAS
A SECURE FORTRESS, AND FOR
THEIR CHILDREN IT WILL BE A
REFUGE."
WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S ALL OF
THE TIME WE'VE GOT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
WITH US.
REMEMBER, EVEN THOUGH THIS
PROGRAM MAY NOT BE ON THE
AIR, THE TELEPHONES ARE
AVAILABLE.
YOU CAN CALL FOR PRAYER OR
COUNSELLING,
1-800-759-0700.
UNTIL TOMORROW, THIS IS PAT
ROBERTSON.
GOD BLESS YOU.?