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The 700 Club - Nov. 5, 2013

Ultimate Fighter Justin Wren struggled with low self esteem even after achieving his dream of becoming a professional fighter. Plus, Brett Fuller shares his experience of being the chaplain for the Washington Redskins. Read Transcript


THEY WERE BIG, THEY WERE

STRONG.

Wendy: INSIDE THE

OPTAGONE.

THIS IS HOW I WILL LEARN

TO STICK UP FOR MYSELF AND

TO FIGHT BACK.

Wendy: THE U.F.C. STAR

THEY CALLED THE VIKING.

NOBODY IN THIS WORLD KNEW

HOW WORTHLESS I FELT.

Wendy: HOW THIS

ULTIMATE FIGHTER MET HIS

MATCH.

HE STARTED SPEAKING MY

LANGUAGE.

BRO, YOU CAN'T WIN THIS

FIGHT ALONE.

Wendy: ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB."

[APPLAUSE]

Pat: WELCOME TO THIS

EDITION OF "THE 700 CLUB."

TODAY IS ELECTION DAY IN

SEVERAL STATES.

IT IS A REFERENDUM IN

VIRGINIA ON THE OBAMACARE

HEALTH PROGRAM.

IT LOOKS LIKE THE HEALTH

CARE FIASCO IS HAVING A

HEAVY TOLL ON THE RATEINGS

OF THE PRESIDENT.

A GROWING NUMBER OF PEOPLE

ARE ANGRY AND LOSING THEIR

HEALTH INSURANCE.

Terry: UNDERSTANDABLY.

ABOUT 3.5 MILLION PEOPLE

HAVE GOTTEN CANCELLATION

NOTICES.

NOW THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS

ARE TRYING TO REPAIR THE

DAMAGE FROM OBAMACARE.

Reporter: WITH GROWING

CRITICISM OF PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S PROMISE IF YOU LIKE

YOUR PLAN YOU CAN KEEP IT,

NOW LAWMAKERS FROM BOTH

PARTIES ARE STEPPING IN TO

SEE THAT THE PRESIDENT'S

PROMISE IS KEPT.

TWO MEASURES ARE IN THE

WORKS THAT

WOULD

ALLOW

CONSUMERS TO KEEP THEIR

COVERAGE IF THEY LIKE IT.

AND OBAMACARE HAS BECOME A

KEY ISSUE IN THE VIRGINIA

GOVERNOR'S CASE.

REPUBLICAN KEN CUCCINEL

CUCCINELLIP.

IT IS A GREAT DRIVING

FORCE.

Reporter: BOTH THE

PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT

ARE FIGHTING HARD FOR CUCCE

EELLI'S SIDE.

THE OTHER SIDE WILL

GENERATE EVERY KEY PARTY

SYMPATHIZER IN THIS STATE.

THEY WILL SHOW UP.

SO IT IS ALL UP TO YOU.

Reporter: BUT THE

PRESIDENT HIMSELF IS NOT

POPULAR AT THE MOMENT.

THE OBAMACARE CONTROVERSY IS

CREATING POLITICAL FALLOUT

FOR THE PRESIDENT AND THE

DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

THE APPROVAL RATING HAS

TAKEN A HIT.

ACCORDING TO THE LATEST

GALLOP SURVEY, THE PRESIDENT

HAS A 53% DISAPPROVAL

RATING.

40% APPROVE.

AND BACK IN WASHINGTON, SOME

CRITICS ARE STEPPING UP

THEIR ATTACKS ON THE

PRESIDENT.

A FORMER SPEECH WRITER FOR

THE SECOND PRESIDENT BUSH

WROTE IN THE "WASHINGTON

POST": "THE PRESIDENT SAID

IF YOU LIKE YOUR HEALTH CARE

PLAN, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO

KEEP YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN,

PERIOD.

THIS WAS A PREMEDITATED

DECEPTION.

THIS WAS A LINE IN THE

PRESIDENTIAL SPEECH THAT WAS

CAREFULLY REVIEWED BY THE

ENTIRE WHITE HOUSE SENIOR

STAFF."

OBAMA'S ADVISOR TOLD THE

"WALL STREET JOURNAL" THAT

THEY KNEW THESE 16 WORDS

WERE UNTRUE, BUT OBAMA KEPT

SAYING THEM OVER AND OVER

AGAIN.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, OBAMA

DIDN'T MISSPEAK, HE LIED.

EPHRAIM GRAHAM, CBN NEWS.

Pat: IT IS A TERRIBLE

THING WHEN YOU DON'T TRUST

THE LEADERSHIP, AND I THINK

THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

WHEN A PRESIDENT LOSES

TRUST, HE IS GONE.

HIS WORD DOESN'T AMOUNT TO

ANYTHING.

WE HAVE A MAN WHO

DELIBERATELY LIED TO GET HIS

PROGRAM THROUGH.

HE WAS SO COMMITTED TO THIS

SOCIALIST AGENDA, HE WAS

GOING TO TELL ANYTHING, SAY

ANYTHING, TRUE OR FALSE, IN

ORDER TO GET IT PASSED.

SO THAT'S WHAT IS

HAPPENING.

WE'VE GOT A VERY FASCINATING

STORY COMING UP.

TERRY, LET ME ASK YOU, WOULD

YOU GO INTO A STRIP CLUB TO

DEAL WITH THE DANCERS AND BE

NICE TO THEM, OR WOULD YOU

STAY OUT?

Terry: H'MMM, I'D HAVE

TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

I WOULD HAVE TO HEAR FROM

THE LORD ON THAT ONE.

Pat: WE HAVE A PASTOR'S

WIFE WHO HEARD FROM THE

LORD.

IT IS A FASCINATING STORY

THAT IS COMING UP ON THIS

PROGRAM LATER ON, SO YOU

DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

THE PRESIDENT HAS ALSO TAKEN

ACTION ON GLOBAL WARMING.

BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE

NECESSARY, EITHER.

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY

FROM THE CBN NEWS ROOM.

HERE IS JOHN.

Reporter: PAT, THE

RECENT PAUSE IN GLOBAL

WARMING COULD LAST FOR

ANOTHER COUPLE OF DECADES,

AND EVEN LONGER.

THE WORLD'S AVERAGE SURFACE

TEMPERATURE HAS NOT GONE UP

SINCE THE LATE 1990s.

THE LONDON DAILY MAIL

REPORTS NEW RESEARCH SHOWS

NATURAL CYCLES HAVE PLAYED A

MAJOR ROLE IN RISING AND

FALLING TEMPERATURES, AND

COULD EXPLAIN BY RISING

TEMPERATURES FROM MAN MADE

GLOBAL WARMING ARE WRONG.

IT IS DESIGNED TO HAVE

FEDERAL AGENCIES, ALONG WITH

STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS,

WORK TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO

RESPOND TO DRASTIC WEATHER

CAUSED BY GLOBAL WARMING.

AN AMERICAN PASTOR

IMPRISONED IN IRAN IS SAID

TO BE FACING

LIFE-THREATENING CONDITIONS

AFTER A RECENT PRISON

TRANSFER.

SAEED ABEDINI HAS BEEN MOVED

TO A PRISON KNOWN TO BE EVEN

MORE DANGEROUS THAN EVAN

PRISON, WHERE SAEED WAS

PREVIOUSLY JAILED.

PASTOR SAEED IS IN AWARD

WITH MEN CONVICTED OF THINGS

LIKE RAPE AND MURDER.

FAMILY MEMBERS TRIED TO

VISIT HIM MONDAY, BUT WERE

TURNED AWAY.

FOR MORE, LOG ON TO OUR

WEBSITE, CBNNEWS.COM.

MINNESOTA IS A LEADING

FIGHTER AGAINST HUMAN

TRAFFICKING AND IT COULD

SOON INFLUENCE OTHER STATES

ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AT A BREAKFAST FUNDRAISER, A

DEMOCRAT SENATOR ANNOUNCED

PLANS TO INTRODUCE

LEGISLATION TO THE U.S.

SENATE.

THEY SAY ST. PAUL IS SETTING

AN EXAMPLE AND DECREASING

THE DEMAND BY ARRESTING MORE

THAN 200 MEN THIS YEAR FOR

EXCHANGING SEX FOR MONEY.

THE STATE ALSO PARTNERS WITH

ORGANIZATIONS THAT HELP AND

IDENTIFY WOMEN AND CHILDREN

AS VICTIMS, NOT CRIMINALS.

THE AUDIENCE AT THIS

BREAKFAST SHEARED FROM ONE

OF THOSE VICTIMS.

I'M 42 TODAY, AND I

STARTED AT 16.

AND I JUST RECENTLY GOT OUT

OF THE LIFE FOUR MONTHS

AGO.

( applause ).

I THOUGHT THIS WAS WHAT I

WAS GOING TO BE DOING FOR

THE REST OF MY LIFE, UNTIL I

WAS IN MY CASKET, BURIED.

Reporter: MINNESOTA

HOTELS ARE ALSO PART OF THE

FIGHT.

THEY MAKE ROUTINE PHONE

CALLS TO POLICE TO REPORT

ANY STRANGE ACTIVITY.

PAT, AS YOU STATED IN THE

PAST, THIS IS A BLIGHT ON

HUMANITY.

Pat: IT IS A SHOCKING

THING, THE TRAFFICKING IN

WOMEN.

IF THERE IS ANYTHING

APPROPRIATE FOR THE DEATH

PENALTY, THEN IT IS THESE

PEOPLE WHO ARE ENGAGED IN

TREATING WOMEN AS OBJECTS

AND ANIMALS.

THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT

MINNESOTA, THEY HAVE THESE

VERY BEAUTIFUL,

BLONDE-HEADED, NORDIC GIRLS,

AND THEY WERE HIGHLY

PRIZED.

AND SO YEARS AGO WE DID A

THING ON TRAFFICKING, AND IT

WAS TRAFFICKED FROM

MINNESOTA INTO CHICAGO, AND

THESE PIMPS WOULD PICK THEM

UP --

Terry: I REMEMBER

THAT.

Pat: YOU REMEMBER

THAT?

THE WHOLE IDEA OF A BLONDE,

SWEDISH, NORWEGIAN-TYPE WAS

VERY HIGHLY SOUGHT.

AS I RECALL, ONE OF THE

LEADING PRO FOOTBALL PLAYERS

WAS INVOLVED IN SOME OF THAT

STUFF.

IT WAS QUITE A -- WE HAD A

MEMBER OF THE VICE SQUAD

FROM MINNESOTA TALKING ABOUT

SOME OF THESE THINGS, AND IT

WAS SHOCKING.

SO I CONGRATULATE THE

SENATOR ON THIS ACTION.

AND I HOPE OTHERS WILL DO

THE SAME THING.

WE'VE GOT TO STOP IT.

IT IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE

CANNOT ALLOW.

IN A SOCIETY SUCH AS OURS.

WE MUST GO ON THE WAR PATH,

I SHOULD SAY, AGAINST HUMAN

TRAFFICKING.

WHETHER IT IS IN THE UNITED

STATES, INDIA, OR CHINA, OR

WHEREVER IT IS AROUND THE

WORL.

WE'VE GOT TO SEE IT

STOPPED.

JOHN?

Reporter: CHAOS ERUPTED

MONDAY IN THE COURTROOM OF

EGYPT'S FIRST ELECTED

PRESIDENT.

MOHAMMED MORSI FACES CHARGES

OF MURDER AND INSIGHTING

VIOLENCE.

GEORGE THOMAS BRINGS US THIS

REPORT FROM EGYPT.

George: IT IS HARD TO

IMAGINE MORE THAN TWO AND A

HALF YEARS AGO IN THIS

FAMOUS SPOT, THE FAMOUS

TAHRIR SQUARE BECAME THE

EPICENTER FOR TENS OF

THOUSANDS OF EYPTIANS, WHO

WERE CHANTING, CALLING FOR

FREEDOM.

CALLING FOR THE REMOVAL OF

HOSNI MUBARAK.

THIS WEEK, ANOTHER TURN

EVENTS IN THIS NATION, THE

TRIAL OF MOHAMMED MORSI AND

14 TOP LIEUTENANTS IN THE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.

EYPTIANS SAW MORSI FOR THE

FIRST TIME SINCE HIS REMOVAL

FOUR MONTHS AGO.

HE STRUCK A DEFIANT TONE THE

MOMENT HE ENTERED THE

COURTROOM.

"I AM THE LEGITIMATE

PRESIDENT OF THE PUBLIC.

I AM HERE AGAINST MY WILL."

HE EVEN REFUSED TO WEAR A

PRISON UNIFORM.

INSTEAD, WORE A DARK SUIT.

HE IS THE HEAD OF THIS

COURT.

HE REFUSES TO WEAR THE

DEFENDANT'S CLOTHES BECAUSE

HE IS NOT A DEFENDANT.

George: MORSI AND 14

OTHER MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

MEMBERS COULD FACE THE DEATH

PENALTY IF CONVICTED.

THE TRIAL SPARKED PROTEST

ACROSS THE CITY.

THIS IS A SHOW TRIAL.

WE ARE TELLING THE JUDGES OF

EGYPT NOT TO TAKE PART IN

THIS TRIAL.

George: MORSI WAS

EGYPT'S FIRST

DEMOCRATICALLY-ELECTED

PRESIDENT.

BUT AFTER JUST ONE YEAR IN

OFFICE, EYPTIANS AR HAVE

HAD ENOUGH OF HIM.

THEIR POWERFUL ARMY REMOVED

HIM FROM OFFICE.

THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

FAILED TO COME UP WITH ANY

GOOD PUBLI POLITICAL OR

ECONOMIC SOLUTIONS.

INSTEAD, THEY TRIED TO TURN

EVERYBODY ISLAMIC.

George: AUTHORITIES

HAVE THROWN THOUSANDS OF

BROTHERHOOD MEMBERS IN

JAIL.

HUNDREDS OF PRO-MORSI

SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN

KILLED.

NOW THERE IS CONCERN THAT

EGYPT IS TURNING INTO A

MILITARY DICTATORSHIP.

THE POLITICAL DIRECTION

OF OUR COUNTRY IS TURNING

MORE MILITARY.

AS LONG AS THE ARMY IS

RULING EGYPT, THE CURRENT

PRESIDENT DOES NOT REPRESENT

US.

George: MEANWHILE, SOME

20,000 SECURITY FORCES ARE

ON THE STREETS TO PREVENT

ANY POTENTIAL UNREST.

GEORGE THOMAS, CBN NEWS.

Reporter: BACK HERE AT

HOME, THE SENATE IS MOVING

AHEAD WITH A GAY RIGHTS

BILL, BUT THE MEASURE

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT HAS ANY

FUTURE IN THE

HOUSE.

THE BILL IS CALLED ENDA.

IT WILL BAN DISCRIMINATION

AT WORK BASED ON SEXUAL

ORIENTATION OR GENDER

IDENTITY.

54 DEMOCRATS AND 7

REPUBLICANS CLEARED THE BILL

ON MONDAY.

BUT HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN

BOEHNER OPPOSES IT, MAKING

IT UNLIKELY THE HOUSE WILL

TAKE IT UP.

BOEHNER SAYS IT WILL CREATE

FRIVOLOUS

LAWSUITS.

THE BILL WOULD GRANT SPECIAL

STATUS TO GAY, LESBIAN, AND

TRANSGENDER PEOPLE.

RESEARCHERS FROM HARVARD AND

FRANCE FOUND THAT PEOPLE WHO

FOLLOWED THE MEDITERRANEAN

DIET HAD A BETTER CHANCE OF

LIVING PAST 70 WITHOUT

PHYSICAL OR MENTAL ISSUES.

THEY STUDIED 10,000 PEOPLE

OVER 15 YEARS.

THEY STAYED HEALTHY AND

DIDN'T HAVE DISEASES LIKE

CANCER, STROKE, HEART

DISEASE, AND DIABETES.

IT CONSISTS OF VEGETABLES,

WHOLE GRAINS, BEANS, NUTS,

AND OLIVE OIL.

PAT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU,

BUT ALL OF THIS TALK ABOUT

FOOD IS MAKING ME HUNGRY.

Pat: I HAD A LITTLE

CEREAL THIS MORNING.

Terry: YOU'RE GOOD TO

GO.

Pat: AND ANTI-

ANTI-OXIDANT BERRIES.

DO YOU DO THIS MEDITERRANEAN

STUFF?

Terry: IT IS HEALTHY

LIVING IN GENERAL.

IT IS NOT REAL STRINGENT,

BUT I THINK A LOT OF US TRY

TO DO IT.

Pat: YOU SEE ONE OF THE

DIET COMPANIES PUSHING THAT,

BUT THAT'S WHAT IT AMOUNTS

TO.

IT'S WHITE FLOUR, SUGAR,

SWEETS OF ALL KINDS, AND

PROCESSED FOOD, AND THEN

TRANS-FATS.

AND THEN YOU GO DOWN THE

LIST, AND A LOT OF RED MEAT

IS A PROBLEM, TOO.

SO IT'S NOT TOO STRENUOUS.

AND I REALLY LIKE NUTS.

Terry: I KNOW YOU DO.

Pat: I LIKE OATMEAL.

Terry: YOU'RE KIND OF A

LIGHT EATER.

YOU DON'T REALLY EAT LARGE

MEALS.

Pat: THE LORD HAS TOOK

MY APPETITE AWAY, AND AS A

RESULT I LOST ABOUT 35,

40 POUNDS.

SO IT IS REAL EASY.

Terry: SPEAKING OF THE

LORD, HERE ARE SOME WORDS

YOU WOULD NEVER EXPECT TO

HEAR FROM GOD: GO TO A STRIP

CLUB.

ONE WOMAN HEEDED THAT CALL,

AND THAT'S NEXT.

*

Pat: THERE WAS ONCE A

PROPHET, AND HIS NAME WAS

JONAH, AND GOD SAID TO HIM,

GO TO NINEVEH AND PREACH.

AND JONAH, NO WAY.

I'M NOT ABOUT TO GO TO THAT

WICKED CITY.

I'M GOING TO GO TO

TARSHISH.

AND SO HE GOT ON A SHIP, AND

THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, THE

SHIP CRASHED AND THEY THREW

HIM OVER BOARD, AND FISH GOT

HIM AND SPIT HIM OUT.

YOU KNOW THAT'S THE STORY OF

JONAH AND THE WHALE.

IN ANY EVENT, WHAT WOULD

HAPPEN IF GOD SAID GO TO

SOME STRANGE PLACE.

ONE DAY ERIN STEVENS FELT

GOD SPEAKING TO HER, AND

SAID GO SOMEWHERE SHE HAD

NEVER GONE BEFORE.

AND REACH OUT TO PEOPLE SHE

HAD NEVER MET.

AS PAUL STRAND REPORTS, IT

WAS A TRULY LIFE-CHANGING

EXPERIENCE.

Reporter: LAST YEAR

ERIN STEVENS, A TENNESSEE

PASTOR'S WIFE, HEARD A

SURPRISE FROM GOD AT THE END

OF A 21-DAY FAST.

I FELT IN MY SPIRIT GOD

SAY, GO FEED THE STRIP

STRIPPERS.

I KNEW IT WAS FROM HIM,

BECAUSE WHY WOULD I THINK

THAT?

I HAD NEVER BEEN TO A STRIP

CLUB.

Reporter: BUT SHE WROTE

IN DOWN IN HER JOURNAL AND

PICKED UP THE PHONE.

I CALLED THE GENERAL

MANAGER OF THE LARGEST STRIP

CLUB AND SAY, I WOULD LIKE

TO FEED YOUR GIRLS.

I'M NOT GOING TO PREACH.

Reporter: NASHVILLE IS

KNOWN AS THE COUNTRY MUSIC

MECCA, BUT STILL THERE IS A

DARK SIDE THAT HAS STRIP

CLUBS.

THEY WERE JUST OPEN

ARMS.

CAN YOU COME NEXT THURSDAY.

WE'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU.

Reporter: A FEW MONTHS

IN, SHE AND HER

HOME-SCHOOLED SONS BEGAN

MAKING GOODIE BAGS FOR THE

GIRLS, BUT NO PREACHING.

WE JUST TALKED TO THE

GIRLS ABOUT THEIR LIVES.

Reporter: SHE WAS

DETERMINED TO FEED THE

GIRLS, NOT SEEING MUCH

FRUIT, UNTIL ONE YOUNG GIRL

WHO LIVED HERE, IN ANTIOCH,

TENNESSEE, MADE ALL OF THE

EFFORT SEEM WORTHWHILE.

THAT WAS KATHRYN.

SHE IS GOING TO PREACH TO

ME OR HAND ME ONE OF THOSE

TRACKS THAT SAYS HELL AND

DAMNATION, AND THIS IS HOW

TO GO TO HEAVEN.

AND HERE IS A BIBLE.

GO PRAY.

SOMETHING.

AND SHE DIDN'T.

Reporter: BUT ONE

SPECIFIC VISIT REALLY ROCKED

KATHRYN'S WORLD.

ONE DAY SHE BROUGHT MARY

KAY PRACTICES.

AND SHE HAD TEARS IN HER

EYES.

SHE SAID WHAT YOU'VE GIVEN

ME YOU'LL NEVER KNOW.

I'VE BEEN A LIFE-LONG USER

OF MARY KAY, AND I CAN'T

AFFORD IT ANYMORE.

AND THIS WAS

EXTRAORDINARY.

WHY ARE YOU GIVING US STUFF

AND YOU'RE NOT PREACHING.

AND I LOOKED AT HER AND I

SAID BECAUSE YOUR VALUABLE

TO GOD AND YOU'RE VALUABLE

TO ME.

Reporter: KATHRYN NEVER

WANTED TO STRIP.

FOR THE MOST PART, THE

COSTUMERS IN THERE MADE ME

WANT TO CRAWL IN A SHELL AND

HIDE.

I WAS DRINKING A LOT IN

ORDER TO DO IT.

GOD LOVES YOU AS YOU ARE,

WHERE YOU ARE, AND NO MATTER

WHAT YOU'VE DONE, WHO YOU'VE

DONE IT WITH, AND HOW MANY

TIMES YOU'VE DONE IT, HE

STILL SEES YOU AS COMPLETELY

100% FORGIVABLE.

Reporter: AND KATHRYN

BEGAN TO BELIEVE WHAT ERIN

TOLD HER ABOUT HER CHURCH.

THERE ARE OTHER DANCERS

THERE, AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE

DONE PORN.

AND SHE SAID, YOU WON'T EVEN

STAND OUT.

Reporter: KATHRYN

FINALLY WENT, AND THAT

SUNDAY THE BAPTIST CHURCH

BAPTIZED AN ECLECTIC GROUP.

WITH TATTOOS, AND EVERY

RACE, THEY'RE SAYING, I'M

GOING TO BRING JESUS BACK

INTO MY LIFE.

I'M GOING TO LIVE MY LIFE

FOR JESUS.

AND I SAID, WHY CAN'T I?

Reporter: SHE

IMMEDIATELY TURNED AWAY FROM

STRIPPING.

QUITTING THE CLUB WAS MY

FIRST STEP, AND I TOOK IT

THAT DAY.

AND SHE SAID, ERIN, I

WALKED AWAY.

SHE ACCEPTED CHRIST AS HER

LORD AND SAVIOR.

Reporter: ERIN

INTRODUCED HER TO A JOB

RECRUITER RIGHT AWAY.

A RECRUITER IN OUR CHURCH

HAS FOUND HER A JOB.

SHE IS GOING TO GRADUATE IN

JANUARY WITH A DEGREE IN

CRIMINAL JUSTICE.

SHE WANTS TO BE A COP.

Reporter: AND NOW

KATHRYN JOINS ON THOSE

VISITS TO THE STRIP CLUB.

AND THE STRIPPERS STARTED

LISTENING RIGHT AWAY.

I THINK IT WAS THE GLOW

OF HAPPINESS AND GETTING RID

OF DEPRESSION AND

ALCOHOLISM, AND INVITING

JESUS TO CONTROL MY LIFE

INSTEAD OF ME.

Reporter: ERIN HAS

FACED SOME CRITICISM FOR

HANGING OUT WITH AND MAKING

FRIENDS WITH THESE

STRIPPERS, BUT TODD POINTS

TO JESUS.

HE WAS CRITICIZED FOR

HANGING OUT WITH SINNERS AND

HAVING MEALS WITH THEM.

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GOING

TO LISTEN TO US UNTIL THEY

KNOW HOW MUCH WE LOVE THEM.

JESUS SAID WE'D BE KNOWN

AS FOLLOWERS BY HOW WE

LOVE.

THE ABORTIONIST, THE

STRIPPER, THE PORNOGRAPHER,

THE ADDICT, THEY'RE NOT OUR

ENEMY.

THEY'RE OUR MISSION FIELD.

Reporter: JUST AS JESUS

IS KNOWN AS THE FRIEND OF

SINNERS, ERIN STEV STEVENS,

THE HOME-SCHOOLING MOM, IS

HEADING INTO THE DARKEST

PARTS OF DOWNTOWN NASHVILLE

AND BECOMING KNOWN AS THE

FRIEND OF STRIPPERS.

PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS,

REPORTING FROM MT. JULIA,

TENNESSEE.

Pat: THAT'S WHAT JESUS

DID.

THEY SAID HE IS A FRIEND OF

DRUNKARDS AND SINNERS --

Terry: US.

Pat: YES.

AND HE SAID, WHO DID THE SON

OF MAN COME TO SAVE?

HE SAID, I CAME TO SEEK THE

LOST, NOT THE RIGHT THE

RIGHTEOUS.

BUT ANYBODY WHO THINKS

THEY'RE RIGHTEOUS IS A

SINNER.

PEOPLE WANT LOVE, AND YOU

THINK THOSE DIRTY, FALLEN

WOMEN, WHO NEEDS THIS, BUT

THEY'RE SEEKING LOVE.

MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN

TRAPPED IN THAT KIND OF

THING, AND THEY DON'T KNOW

WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT.

AND IT IS AN ENDLESS CYCLE

OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND

SEX.

Terry: ONCE YOU'RE IN

IT, IT IS HARD TO GET OUT.

Pat: BUT GOD BLESS

HER.

I DIDN'T THINK OF

NASHVILLE'S MUSIC CITY OF

HAVING THAT DARK SIDE.

Terry: THERE ARE MANY

CITIZENS LIKE THAT.

WELL, COMING UP, TALK ABOUT

PICKING ON THE WRONG GUY.

AN ULTIMATE FIGHTER SHARES

HOW HE WAS BULLIED AS A

CHILD.

I REMEMBER EVERY PART OF

ME FEELING LIKE IT WAS

BROKEN AND CRUSHED.

I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE

SOMEONE DIFFERENT AT THAT

AGE.

Terry: FIND OUT WHAT

HAPPENED WHEN HE STARTED TO

FIGHT BACK.

THAT'S NEXT.

*

Pat: WHEN I WAS A KID,

I FOUGHT THE HEAVY WEIGHT IN

THE GOLDEN GLOVES, AND I

THOUGHT BOXING WASN'T TOO

BAD.

IT GETS YOUR HEAD KNOCKED IN

OCCASIONALLY, BUT IT WAS

ACCORDING TO RULES, AND

THREE ROUNDS AND YOU'RE

OUT.

BUT THERE IS SOMETHING NOW

CALLED THE ULTIMATE FIGHTING

CHAMPIONSHIP AND THAT

OCTAGON THAT IS ABSOLUTELY

BRUTAL, AND I DON'T LIKE

IT.

BUT MANY MILLIONS THINK IT

IS A GREAT SPORT, IF YOU

DON'T MIND GETTING YOUR FACE

SMASHED IN EVERY TIME YOU

STEP IN THE RING.

HE HAS DISHED OUT HIS SHARE

OF BEATINGS INSIDE THAT

CAGED WALL.

HE SPENT HIS LIFE TRYING TO

PROVE THAT HE WAS THE

TOUGHEST OF THE TOUGH.

UNTIL ONE DAY JUSTIN LEARNED

THAT YOU CAN'T WIN UNTIL YOU

SURRENDER.

Reporter: JUSTIN WAS

LOOKING AT JOSH, AND HE IS

REINING DOWN THE LEATHER

HARD.

PEOPLE CALLED HIM THE

VIKING.

PROFESSIONAL FIGHTER JUSTIN

REND, ONE OF THE ULTIMATE

FIGHTERS IN THE ULTIMATE

FIGHTING CHAMPIONSHIP.

AND JUSTIN WAS A LEADING

CONTESTANT IN THE 2009

SEASON OF THE REALITY SHOW

"THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER."

BUT THE MAN WHO HAD BECOME A

FIERCE WARRIOR WAS NOTHING

LIKE THE AWKWARD AND SHY

TEENAGER HE ONCE WAS.

CLASSMATES MADE FUN OF

JUSTIN AND HARASSED HIM.

AT TIMES IT GOT PHYSICAL.

I JUST REMEMBER EVERY

PART OF ME FEELING LIKE IT

WAS BROKEN AND CRUSHED.

THAT I WASN'T GOOD ENOUGH.

THAT I WAS WORTHLESS.

I ALWAYS WANTED TO BE

SOMEONE DIFFERENT AT THAT

AGE.

Reporter: HE WAS AFRAID

TO STAND UP TO THE BULLIES

UNTIL HE DISCOVERED THE TV

SHOW, "THE ULTIMATE

FIGHTER."

THEY WERE BIG, THEY WERE

STRONG.

THEY WERE OLYMPIC WRESTLERS

AND OLYMPIC BOXERS.

AT THAT NOMINATE MOMENT, I

FOUND THIS IS HOW I WILL

LEARN HOW TO STAND UP FOR

MYSELF AND FIGHT BACK.

Reporter: IN HIGH

SCHOOL, HE JOINED THE

WRESTLING TEAM, AND HE GREW

BIGGER AND STRONGER AND WON

A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP.

THE BULLYING HAD STOPPED, BU

IT DIDN'T IMPROVE HIS

SELF-ESTEEM.

INSTEAD, HE FELT WORSE AND

WAS DIAGNOSED WITH

DEPRESSION.

JUSTIN STARTED DRINKING AND

SMOKING MARIJUANA TO BATTLE

THE SADNESS.

I JUST ALWAYS REMEMBER

FIGHTING DEPRESSION.

FIGHTING SADNESS AND ANGER

ALL AT THE SAME TIME, LIKE

THESE TWO WARRING EMOTIONS

OF ME BEING ANGRY BECAUSE

I'M SAD, AND BEING SAD

BECAUSE I'M ANGRY.

WHATEVER THIS WHOLE IN MY

HEART WAS, IT HAD TO BE

FULFILLED.

Reporter: AFTER HIGH

SCHOOL, JUSTIN ACHIEVED HIS

DREAM OF BECOMING AN

ULTIMATE FIGHTER WHEN HE

EARNED A SPOT WITH THE

U.F.C.

HE QUICKLY BECAME A FAN

FAVORITE, BUT JUSTIN NEVER

CONQUERED HIS BATTLE WITH

DEPRESSION.

THE DRINKING GOT HEAVIER,

AND THE DRUGS GOT STRONGER.

IT DIDN'T MATTER HOW MANY

PEOPLE SCREAMED MY NAME OR

CAME TO WATCH ME FIGHT OR

ASKED FOR MY AUTOGRAGH OR

TOOK MY PICTURES, I FELT ALL

ALONE.

I DID SUCH A GOOD JOB OF

HIDING MY DEPRESSION, THAT

ABSOLUTELY NOBODY KNEW.

FROM REPORTERS SAYING HE WAS

THE NEXT BIG THING, TO MY

PARENTS BEING SO PROUD OF

ME.

NOBODY IN THIS WORLD KNEW

HOW WORTHLESS I FELT.

Reporter: BUT JUSTIN

WAS LOSING HIS ABILITY TO

HIDE HIS ADDICTION.

HE STARTED SKIPPING TRAINING

CAMP.

AND HIS EXTREME DRUG USE

CAUSED HIM TO BLACK OUT FOR

DAYS.

ONE DAY HE WOKE UP FROM A

STUPER AND CHECKED HIS

VOICEMAIL.

HIS BEST FRIEND HAD LEFT HIM

A MESSAGE.

HE SAID, I CAN'T BELIEVE

YOU MISSED MY WEDDING.

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU MISSED

BEING MY BEST MAN.

AND I REMEMBER FEELING

NAUSEOUS.

I REMEMBER JUST THINKING, I

AM SUCH A SCREW-UP, THAT I

LOVE THIS GUY AND I HURT HIM

DEEPLY.

Reporter: THEN DAYS

LATER, HE WAS KICKED OFF THE

ULTIMATE FIGHTER FOR

SKIPPING PRACTICE AND

SUSPICION OF DRUG USE.

WHEN HE MOM FOUND OUT, SHE

WENT TO HIS HOUSE AND SHE

DISCOVERED LARGE AMOUNT OF

DRUGS AND JUSTIN LIVING IN

FILTTH.

MY DRUG ADDICTION WAS NO

LONGER ABLE TO BE HIDDEN,

AND MY DEPRESSION WAS NO

LONGER ABLE TO BE HIDDEN.

I ABSOLUTELY NEEDED AND HAD

TO HAVE A CHANGE.

Reporter: HIS MOM

CALLED AN OLD FRIEND OF

JUSTIN'S THAT SHE KNEW HAD

BECOME A PASTOR.

PASTOR JEFF INVITED JUSTIN

TO A CHRISTIAN RETREAT.

JEFF USED THESE WORDS,

I'M TELLING YOU, REAL PEOPLE

WITH REAL PROBLEMS REALLY

NEED REAL ANSWERS FROM A

REALLY REAL GOD.

HE SAID, I PROMISE YOU, HE

IS REAL.

Reporter: JEFF

CONVINCED JUSTIN TO COME,

AND EVEN PAID FOR HIS FLIGHT

TO TEXAS.

I WAS SURROUNDED BY MEN

THAT ABSOLUTELY LOVED GOD,

WHICH FREAKED ME OUT BECAUSE

I NEVER MET PEOPLE THAT I

ACTUALLY FELT REALLY DID

LOVE GOD.

JEFF STARTED SPEAKING MY

LANGUAGE.

BRO, YOU CAN'T WIN THIS

FIGHT ALONE.

HE IS THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER.

JESUS WENT ON THE CROSS.

HE DIED FOR YOUR SINS.

BUT, BRO, THAT'S NOT IT.

THAT'S NOT WHERE THE STORY

ENDS.

HE WAS BURIED IN THE GRAVE,

AND THREE DAYS LATER HE

AROSE.

HE DEFEATED IT ALL FOR YOU.

AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS

SUBMIT.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAP

OUT.

AND TO ME THAT WAS CRAZY,

BECAUSE TAPPING OUT MEANS

GIVING UP, IT MEANS

SURROUNDING.

YOU'RE TELLING ME I'M GOING

TO WIN -- YOU'RE TELLING ME

I'M GOING TO WIN WHENEVER I

SURRENDER, WHENEVER I WAVE

THE WHITE FLAG, WHEN I GIVE

UP.

HE SAID, BRO, I PROMISE

YOU, THIS IS THE ONE TIME

WHEN YOU GIVE EVERYTHING UP

AND YOU GIVE YOUR LIFE OVER,

AND YOU SAY, I CAN'T DO THIS

WITHOUT YOU, GOD, I HAVE TO

HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU, JESUS, AND I PROMISE

YOU YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVEN

THE GREATEST VICTORY YOU

HAVE EVER WON.

Reporter: JUSTIN PRAYED

TO ACCEPT JESUS AS HIS

SAVIOR.

I JUST REMEMBER GIVING MY

LIFE TO CHRIST.

PRAYING, AND SAYING, GOD, I

CANNOT DO THIS WITHOUT YOU.

I AM JACKED UP AND I CAN'T

SAVE MYSELF, AND I NEED

YOU.

AND MY HEART WAS FINALLY AT

REST.

AND I FINALLY HAD NOT A

HAPPINESS THAT WAS

TEMPORARY, BUT A JOY THAT I

KNEW WAS THERE TO STAY.

THAT WORTHLESSNESS WAS TAKEN

AWAY, AND THE WORTH AND THE

VALUE IN WHO GOD IS AND WHO

JESUS IS AND WHO HE MADE ME

TO BE WAS INSTANTLY PUT

THERE.

AND JESUS SET ME FREE

SPIRITUALLY, SET ME FREE

EMOTIONAL, AND SET ME FREE

PHYSICALLY FROM THOSE

DRUGS.

IT WAS ALL GOD.

Reporter: JUSTIN MIGHT

REJOIN THE U.F.C. IN THE

FUTURE, BUT FOR NOW HE IS IN

FULL-TIME

MINISTRY

WITH

HIS

FIANCEE.

IN FACT, THEY PUT THEIR

WEDDING ON HOLD FOR A YEAR

WHILE JUSTIN LEADS A MISSION

TRIP TO THE CONGO.

HE SAYS HIS LIFE IS

FULFILLED ALL BECAUSE OF

JESUS CHRIST.

I TAPPED OUT, AND I

SUBMITTED MY LIFE TO CHRIST,

AND HONESTLY, I WAS GIVEN

THE GREATEST VICTORY I HAD

EVER WON.

Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS

JESUS BECAME OBEDIENT, AND

HE LEARNED BY THE THINGS

THAT HE SUFFERED.

HE BECAME OBEDIENT TO THE

DEATH ON THE CROSS.

HE HAD ALL THE POWER.

JESUS CHRIST HAD ALL POWER.

HE SAID, LISTEN, I CAN CALL

A THOUSAND ANGELS.

I CAN CALL LEGIONS OF

ANGELS, ENOUGH TO BEAT UP

THE WHOLE ARMY OF ROME.

I DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS.

I HAVE MORE POWER THAN ALL

OF THEM COMBINED.

I AM GOD.

AND YET HE BECAME OBEDIENT

TO THE DEATH ON THE CROSS.

HE BECAME A SERVANT.

HE HUMBLED HIMSELF, BECAME A

MAN, WAS BEATEN, CURSED,

SPIT UPON, REVIALED, LAUGHED

AT, AND ULTIMATELY DIED.

WHY DID HE DO IT?

BECAUSE HE SAW YOU.

HE SAW ME.

HE KNEW -- HE KNEW THAT YOU

AND I NEEDED A SAVIOR.

AND WE WEREN'T GOING TO

SUBMIT OURSELVES TO SOME

HIGH AND MIGHTY LORD WHO

DIDN'T COME DOWN NOW WHERE

WE WERE, BUT WE WOULD SUBMIT

OURSELVES TO A SUFFERING

SERVANT, WHO WASHED PEOPLE'S

FEET AND WHO HUMBLED

HIMSELF.

AND RIGHT NOW THE SUFFERING

SERVANT IS STANDING AT THE

DOOR OF YOUR HEART, AND HE

IS KNOCKING.

HE IS SAYING, LISTEN, I DIED

FOR YOU.

I GAVE MY HEART FOR YOU.

WOULD YOU LET ME COME IN?

AND LIVE MY LIFE IN YOU.

AND IF YOU SAY YES, HE WILL

SAY, I'M GOING TO COME AND

I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU A

BRAND NEW PERSON.

I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU JOY

YOU'VE NEVER KNOWN.

I'M GOING TO TAKE AWAY THE

SADNESS AND THE GRIEF AND

THE SELF-LOATHING AND ALL OF

THE OTHER STUFF THAT GOES

ON.

AND I'M GOING TO MAKE YOU A

NEW CREATURE.

IF YOU WANT THAT, PRAY WITH

ME RIGHT NOW.

PRAY THESE WORDS.

BOW YOUR HEAD.

SAY THESE WORDS WITH ME, BUT

MEAN THEM IN YOUR HEART.

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT --

JESUS, YOU KNOW THE TURMOIL

THAT HAS GONE THROUGH MY

MIND.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN

THROUGH.

AND YOU KNOW HOW I HATE TO

SURRENDER.

BUT, LORD, BECAUSE OF YOU, I

SURRENDER MYSELF.

I GIVE IN, LORD, TO YOU.

AND I SUBMIT MYSELF TO YOUR

CONTROL.

AND FROM THIS MOMENT ON, I

AM YOURS.

TAKE ME, LORD.

I GIVE MYSELF TO YOU.

THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD, FOR HEARING

MY PRAYER.

THANK YOU, IN JESUS' NAME.

IF YOU PRAYED THAT PRAYER

WITH ME, I WANT TO GIVE YOU

SOMETHING TO START YOU OUT.

YOU SAY, I'VE PRAYED, AND

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

IT IS A SIMPLE PRAYER WITH

SOMEBODY ON TELEVISION, AND

WHAT DOES IT MEAN?

WELL, I WAS IN OUR AUDIO

BOOTH A FEW YEARS AGO, AND I

DID 70 MINUTES OF A VERY,

VERY IMPORTANT TEACHING.

ABOUT THE EXCHANGED LIFE,

AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE BORN

AGAIN.

WHAT IT MEANS TO BE BAPTIZED

IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

IT'S ALL HERE.

AND I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU FREE

IF YOU CALL AND SAY, I

PRAYED WITH PAT AND I GAVE

MY HEART TO THE LORD.

NO FINANCES, NOTHING.

IF YOU DON'T WANT TO GIVE US

YOUR NAME, THAT'S FINE.

JUST CALL AND TELL ONE OF

THESE PEOPLE ON THE PHONE, I

JUST PRAYED.

I JUST SURRENDERED, AND I

JUST RECEIVED JESUS.

THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN WILL BE

REJOICING WITH YOU.

IT IS A TOLL-FREE NUMBER.

NO MONEY, NO FINANCES, NO

COST.

1-800-759-0700.

HERE IS TERRY.

Terry: WELL, COMING UP,

HE IS A PASTOR WHO'S CHURCH

FEATURES 85,000 SCREAMING

FANS EVERY SUNDAY.

MEET WASHINGTON REDSKINS'

CHAPLAIN BRETT FULLER WHEN

WE RETURN.

WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700

CLUB."

THE UNITED NATIONS IS

WARNING THERE IS A RISK OF

GENOCIDE IN THE CENTRAL

AFRICAN REPUBLIC.

THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN IN

TURMOIL SINCE ISLAMIST

MILITANTS OUSTED THE

PRESIDENT IN MARCH.

ISLAMISTS ARE IN SIGHTING

VIOLENCE IN THE TOWNS WHERE

CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS USED

TO LIVE IN BUSINES PEACE

AND DO BUSINESS TOGETHER.

HUMAN RIGHTS GROUPS HAVE

ACCUSED REBELS OF WIDESPREAD

LOOTING, KILLINGS, RAPES AND

RECRUITMENT OF CHILD

SOLDIERS.

A NEW JERSEY COUPLE IS SUING

GOVERNOR CHRIS CHRISTIE FOR

SIGNING A BILL THAT BANS GAY

CONVERSION THERAPY.

THE COUPLE CLAIMS THE BAN

VIOLATES THEIR FREEDOM OF

SPEECH BECAUSE IT PREVENTS

THEM FROM SEEKING TREATMENT

FOR THEIR TEENAGED SON.

HE SUFFERS FROM UNWANTED

GENDER CONFUSION, AND HAS

EVEN CONTEMPLATED SUICIDE.

THE BILL BANS THERAPISTS WHO

WANT TO HELP TEENAGERS WHO

WANT

TO OVERCOME SEXUAL

TENDENCIES.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: WELL, BRENT

FULLER IS NOT YOUR TYPICAL

PASTOR.

FOR STARTERS, MANY OF HIS

CONGREGANTS ARE WORKING ON

SUNDAY.

HE IS THE CHAPLAIN TO ONE OF

THE MOST POPULAR TEAMS IN

THE NFL, AND RECENTLY HE SAT

DOWN WITH OUR SPORTS

REPORTER, SEAN BROWN, TO

TALK ABOUT HIS TWO PASSIONS,

FAITH AND FOOTBALL.

Reporter: THE

WASHINGTON REDSKINS ARE ONE

OF THE MOST VALUABLE NFL

TEAMS IN PROFESSIONAL

FOOTBALL.

BRETT FULLER SERVES AS THE

CHAPLAIN FOR THE TEAM.

ACCORDING TO PASTOR BRETT,

THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THE

JOB THAN JUST PRAYING

BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER

GAMES.

MY RESPONSIBILITY IS THE

TO BE A CHAPLAIN TO THE

ENTIRE ORGANIZATION, NOT

JUST THE BALLPLAYERS.

ALTHOUGH THE BALLPLAYERS ARE

MY TARGET, THERE ARE 350 OR

MORE EMPLOYEES WHO WORK IN

THE ORGANIZATION.

I WILL WANDER THE HALLS OVER

IN THE FRONT OFFICE, AS WELL

AS THE FOOTBALL SIDE, TO SEE

HOW PEOPLE ARE DOING AND

PRAY FOR THEM.

Reporter: ONE OF THOSE

PEOPLE WAS DEFENSIVE END KED

RICK OLSON.

THE PASTOR DID A GREAT

JOB OF LEADING ME AND NOT

PACIFYING ME.

TELLING ME WHAT THE WORD IS,

AND ALLOWING ME TO READ IT.

AND EVER SINCE THEN I'VE

JUST BEEN, YOU KNOW, FULL

OUT.

Reporter: WHILE PASTOR

BRETT OFFICIALLY BECAME THE

TEAM CHAPLAIN AROUND THE

2001 SEASON, HE HAS BEEN

MINISTERS TO PLAYERS AND

COACHES SINCE HE FIRST MOVED

INTO THE AREA IN THE

1980s.

IT STARTED WHEN HE ASKED

REDSKINS' HALL-OF-FAMER

DERYL GREEN TO SPEAK.

I REALIZED THERE WERE A

FEW HOLES IN HIS TESTIMONY,

AND I SAID, MR. GREEN, DO

YOU MIND IF WE GET TOGETHER

AND DO SOME STUDYING BECAUSE

MAYBE I CAN HELP YOU.

I SHOWED UP AS HIS DOOR ON

TUESDAY AT 6 A.M.

I SAID, I'M ONLY GOING TO

TAKE 30 MINUTES.

IF YOU DON'T WANT ME BACK, I

WON'T.

AFTER THE 30 MINUTES, HE

SAID, CAN YOU COME BACK ON

THURSDAY.

THAT BEGAN AN OUTREACH TO

THE WASHINGTON REDSKINS.

Reporter: SINCE THAT

TIME, THE PASTOR HAS BECOME

A BEACON OF LIGHT IN A

SOMETIMES DARK BUSINESS.

THE NFL IS A "NOT FOR

LONG LEAGUE."

AND I'M NOT THE THE FIRST TO

COIN THAT PHRASE.

YOU COULD BE HERE FOR A CUP

OF COFFEE AND THEN BE GONE.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE

LITERALLY HIRED AND FIRED

EVERY WEEK.

YOU HAVE TO MEET THESE FOLKS

AND SAY I'M PRAYING FOR

YOU.

ANYTHING I CAN DO, LET ME

KNOW.

Reporter: HE SAYS WHILE

PRAYING FOR FRIENDS AND

PLAYERS ARE IMPORTANT, THE

CHAPEL SERMONS HE HAS IS A

SUCCESS.

AND BY THAT, HE IS NOT JUST

TALKING ABOUT THE GAME.

THEY HEAR PRINCIPLES FOR

SUCCESS, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE

A GREAT DAD, AND HOW TO BE

AN EXCELLENT EMPLOYER, WHICH

GOD HAS CALLED YOU.

TO YOU FAITHFUL TO GOD WITH

YOUR TALENTS.

TO SEE GOD BE GLORIFIED

THROUGH WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

Reporter: THE REDSKINS

HAVE HAD A ROUGH SEASON, BUT

PASTOR BRETT IS THERE DURING

THE HIGHS AND LOWS OF NFL

FOOTBALL.

MY JOB AS CHAPLAIN IS TO

SERVE THAT COMMUNITY AS BEST

I KNOW HOW, THROUGH THE

GOSPEL.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE

WHO ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.

MY JOB IS NOT TO ALWAYS TRY

TO TAKE THE GOSPEL AND BEAT

THEM OVER THE HEAD, BUT TO

SERVE THEM WHERE THEY ARE,

AND SERVE THEM SO THEY WILL

INQUIRE ABOUT WHO MY GOD

IS.

Terry: WE LOVE TO BRING

YOU INTERESTING INTERVIEWS

WITH SOME OF THE TOP

ATHLETES IN THE COUNTRY.

AND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE

YOU SEE HOW GOD IS

MINISTERING TO THEM.

YOU CAN WATCH MORE

TESTIMONIES FROM SOME OF

THESE TOP ATHLETES.

JUST GO TO CBNSPORTS.COM.

KEVIN WRITES, "WILL THERE BE

SIN IN HEAVEN.

THE ANSWER IS NO, RIGHT?

IF THE ANSWER IS NO, HOW DID

THE ANGELS WORK DURING THE

REBELLION?"

WE'RE GOING TO LET PAT

ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND

MORE AFTER THIS BREAK.

Terry: I DON'T KNOW

ABOUT YOU, BUT TWO ME IT IS

AMAZING THAT THANKSGIVING

REALLY IS JUST AROUND THE

CORNER.

IF YOU'RE A "700 CLUB"

PARTNER, WE WANT YOU TO KEEP

WATCHING YOUR MAILBOX.

WE'RE GOING TO BE SENDING

YOU A SPECIAL PACKAGE,

CALLED, "THE KEYS TO A

JOYFUL THANKSGIVING."

YOU'LL FIND A RECIPE FOR

GORDON'S TURKEY POT PIE.

AND A BEAUTIFUL CENTER PIECE

WITH A WONDERFUL SCRIPTURE

ON IT.

"FOR

THE LORD IS GOOD, AND HIS

UNFAILING FAITHFULNESS TO

EACH GENERATION."

AND EVERY YEAR THE ROBERTSON

FAMILY GIVES TO A NEEDY

FAMILY THE AMOUNT THEY SPEND

ON THEIR THANKSGIVING MEAL.

WE DELIVER 100,000 MEALS AND

FOOD AND SUPPLIES TO ONE

MILLION FALT FAMILIES HERE

IN AMERICA.

IF YOU'RE NOT A CBN PARTNER,

YOU CAN STILL GIVE.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

US TOLL-FREE AT

1-800-759-0700 OR YOU CAN

WRITE TO US.

AND WE THANK YOU IN ADVANCE

FOR CARRYING ABOUT OTHERS.

Pat: I BELIEVE THEY'RE

ALREADY SELLING CHRISTMAS AT

WAL-MART.

Terry: LET US JUST HAVE

THANKSGIVING FIRST.

Pat: WE COULDN'T EVEN

HAVE HALLOWEEN AND THEY HAVE

CHRISTMAS.

Terry: THAT'S THE

TRUTH.

WE HAVE SOME E-MAIL

QUESTIONS.

LET ME START WITH KEVIN'S

QUESTION.

HE SAYS, "WILL THERE BE SIN

IN HEAVEN?

WELL, THE ANSWER IS NO.

IF THAT ANSWER IS NO, HOW

DID SATAN AND HIS ANGELS SIN

DURING THE REBELLION?"

Pat: THE FIRST SIN WAS

PRIDE, WHERE SATAN BEGAN TO

LOOK AT HIS OWN BEAUTY AND

HIS OWN WISDOM, AND HE SAYS,

I AM SMART.

I AM BEAUTIFUL.

I CAN RUN HEAVEN BETTER THAN

GOD.

AND THAT IS THE FIRST SIN.

IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT

SIN.

AND IT IS THE SIN THAT WE

ALL HAVE.

I IMAGINE THE ONE WHO ASKED

THAT QUESTION HAS A LITTLE

BIT OF IT, TOO, BECAUSE IT

IS PRIDE.

WE THINK WE'RE SO SMART AND

WE THINK WE CAN DO A BETTER

JOB OF OUR LIFE THAN GOD.

I AM THE MASTER OF MY SOUL,

I AM THE CAPTAIN OF MY

FAITH.

YOU KNOW, AND I CAN DO A

BETTER JOB THAN GOD.

THAT'S WHERE SIN CAME FROM.

WHERE DID IT START?

IT STARTS IN THE HEART OF

PEOPLE.

AND IT IS ARROGANCE AND

PRIDE.

WILL THERE BE ANY SIN?

SOONER OR LATER SATAN AND

HIS ANGELS WILL BE REMOVED

FROM HEAVEN.

AND THERE WILL BE NONE OF

THAT WHEN THE FINAL TIME

COMES.

BUT RIGHT NOW, YES, THERE IS

SIN.

BUT SIN IN HEAVEN, WELL,

THAT'S WHERE IT STARTED.

BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO REMAIN

THERE FOREVER.

IT IS GOING TO BE DEALT

WITH.

AND THERE WILL BE NO SORROW,

NO SIN, NO SUFFERING, NO

PAIN, NO TEARS.

IT WILL ALL BE BEAUTIFUL.

ALL RIGHT.

Terry: BASED ON THAT

FIRST QUESTION, I THINK THIS

SECOND QUESTION, ALL FROM A

KEVIN, MIGHT BE HIM AS

WELL.

"I HEARD THAT GOD SENT SATAN

TO EARTH AFTER THE GREAT

BATTLE IN HEAVEN.

WHY DIDN'T GOD SEND HIM

STRAIGHT TO HELL.

WOULDN'T THAT HAVE MADE

THINGS EASIER?"

Pat: IT REALLY WOULD.

I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF

EVERY CRIMINAL WOULD BE SENT

TO HELL.

WHY DON'T WE JUST SHOOT THE

SUCKER.

THATHAT'S WHAT YOU'RE

SAYING.

LET'S WIPE THEM ALL OUT.

GOD DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

BECAUSE IF HE DID, WE WOULD

BE SCARED, AND WE WOULD

SERVE HIM FOR FEAR.

GOD WANTS US TO SERVE HIM

OUT OF LOVE.

HE IS LETTING EVIL HAVE ITS

OWN COURSE.

HIS ANSWER WAS A LITTLE BABY

IN BETHLEHEM AND A CROSS ON

CALVARY, AND PEOPLE COMING

TO HIM VOLUNTARILY WHO COME

TO HIM AND LIVE FOR HIM, NOT

BECAUSE THEY'RE SCARED OF

HIM, BUT BECAUSE THEY LOVE

HIM.

THAT'S WHY GOD DIDN'T GET

RID OF EVERYBODY.

AND THAT'S WHY IN A

GOVERNMENT OF LAWS, WE CAN'T

DO IT EITHER.

Terry: TERESA SAYS,

"WHY DOES GOD LOVE US SO

MUCH?"

Pat: GOD IS LOVE.

HE IS NOT LOVING, BUT HE IS

LOVE ITSELF.

WHY DOES HE LOVE US THIS

MUCH?

BECAUSE HIS WHOLE NATURE IS

FILLED WITH LOVE.

SO THIS IS MERELY A

REFLECTION OF WHO HE IS AND

WHAT HE IS.

AND THE THING IS YOU AND I

KNOW WE'RE NOT WORTHY OF

THAT LOVE.

WE'RE NOT DESERVING OF IT.

WHAT WE'RE DESERVING OF IS

HELL.

AND GOD LOVES US.

SEE WHAT MANNER OF LOVE THIS

FATHER HAS SHOWN TO US, AND

WE WILL BE CALLED THE

CHILDREN OF GOD.

IT IS A MYSTERY, BUT

RECOGNIZE HE IS LOVE.

Terry: JONATHAN

SAYS, "I HATE TO BE ONE OF

THOSE FOX HOLE CHRISTIANS

WHO ONLY RELIES ON MY FAITH

IN TIMES OF NEED.

I JUST FEEL AS IF I STRAY

UNLESS THERE IS SOME SORT OF

CRISIS.

OBVIOUSLY, I DON'T WANT TO

LIVE MY LIFE FROM CRISIS TO

CRISIS, SO WHAT CAN I DO TO

MAKE SURE THAT MY FAITH IS

STRONG ALL THE TIME?"

Pat: WHEN YOU EAT A

GOOD MEAL, THANK GOD FOR

IT.

WHEN YOU TURN ON WATER AND

IT IS HOT AND COLD AND YOU

HAVE PLENTY OF IT AND IT IS

FRESH AND CLEAN, THANK GOD

FOR IT.

WHEN YOU HAVE THE FREEDOM TO

GO WHERE YOU WILL, YOU THANK

GOD FOR IT.

IF YOU HAVE A WIFE, THANK

GOD FOR HER.

A HUSBAND, THANK GOD FOR

HIM.

YOUR CHILDREN, THANK GOD FOR

THEM.

EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND,

ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL.

Terry: STEVEN SAYS,

"CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE

DOCTRINE OF THE ELECT?

IT IS CONFUSING TO ME AND

SEEMS TO THROW OTHER VERSES,

LIKE JOHN 16, OUT THE

WINDOW."

Pat: IF YOU PUSH THESE

THINGS TOO FAR, YOU GET

EXTREME CALVINISM.

YOU GET ALL OF THAT STUFF

LIKE SUPER LAPARIAN, AND ALL

OF THAT STUFF.

GOD HAS A TENSION BETWEEN

MAN'S FREE WILL AND HIS FORE

KNOWLEDGE.

IF YOU GO ONE SIDE OR THE

OTHER, YOU GET UNBALANCED.

THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID, "WORK

OUT YOUR SALVE VATION WITH

FEAR AND TREMBLING."

OKAY.

FOR IT IS GOD THAT IS IN

YOU, AND THE WILL TO DO OF

HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

SO THE HOLY SPIRIT AND GOD

IS WORKING WHILE YOU'RE

SPIRIT IS WORKING, AND

YOU'RE MOVING TOGETHER.

AND WE DON'T HAVE THE

ANSWERS TO THE MYSTERY.

WHEN YOU GET TO HABR,

HEAVEN, YOU'LL FIND OUT THE

ULTIMATE ANSWER HOW FREE

WILL AND FREE DESTINATION,

HOW THE ELECTION CAN GO

ALONG WITH JOHN 3: 16.

THEY'RE BOTH PART OF THE

TRUTH, DON'T NEGLECT EITHER

PART OF IT.

Terry: THIS IS A VIEWER

HAD SAYS, "IF YOU WERE A

BETTING MAN, WHAT WOULD YOU

SAY THE ODDS ARE OF THE END

TIMES HAPPENING SOMETIME IN

THE NEXT 50 YEARS.

BETTER OR WORSE THAN

50/50?"

Pat: MY DEAR, I USED TO

BE ONE OF THOSE EXTREME

BETTING MEN.

Terry: WELL, THEN,

WE'LL LISTEN CLOSELY.

Pat: I WOULDN'T GIVE

ODDS ON THAT BECAUSE I DON'T

KNOW.

BUT IT DOES SEEM -- IT DOES

SEEM THAT THE THINGS ARE

SHAPING UP.

THE REGATHERING OF THE JEWS

IN ISRAEL.

THE NATIONS COMING AGAINST

ISRAEL.

THE FOMAT IN THE EARTH.

THE VOLCANOS, AND THE

POTENTIAL OF AN ASTEROID

STRIKE -- ALL OF THESE

THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

Terry: EVEN

TECHNOLOGY.

Pat: WE HAVE THE

TECHNOLOGY TO DESTROY

OURSELVES, AND WE DIDN'T

HAVE THAT BEFORE.

AND PEOPLE RUNNING TO AND

FRO AND KNOWLEDGE INCREASES,

AND ALL OF THIS.

IT IS ALL POINTING DOWN TO A

COMING.

SO I THINK -- I'M NOT GOING

TO PUT ODDS ON ANYTHING LIKE

THAT, BUT I WOULD SAY IT IS

MUCH NEARER THAN WE FIRST

BELIEVED.

Terry: THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR

QUESTIONS, EVERYBODY.

WE LOVE HEARING FROM YOU.

Pat: WINTER -- WINTER

IS COMING, AND FOR RAYMOND

BYRD, THAT SHOULD HAVE MEANT

MONEY IN THE BANK.

WHEN HIS COMPANY FAILED, HE

AND HIS WIFE HAD A HARD TIME

PAYING THE BILLS, SO THEY

GOT SOME ADVICE FROM A

FAMILY FRIEND.

CAR WASHING IN MINNESOTA

IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR

INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE NICE

VEHICLES, OF COURSE, AND

WANT TO KEEP THEM IN GOOD

CONDITION.

Reporter: STOCKBROKER

RAYMOND BYRD WAS COUNTING ON

THE POPULARITY OF CAR

WASHING WHEN HE BOUGHT A CAR

WASHING COMPANY IN MINNESOTA

AS AN INVESTMENT.

HIS HOPES FOR LARGE PROFITS

NEVER MATERIALIZED.

AS HIS REVENUES DROPPED,

RAYMOND'S STRESS SOARED.

3 A.M. WAKEUPS WERE

COMMON.

I COULDN'T PAY CERTAIN

BILLS.

Reporter: THE BYRDS

SOON HAD TENS OF THOUSANDS

OF DOLLARS IN DEBT, AND THE

CREDITORS WERE CALLING.

I WAS PRAYING, LORD, WILL

YOU HELP ME FIND NEW

CAPITAL.

WILL YOU HELP ME FIND NEW

PARTNERS.

AND IT WASN'T BEING

ANSWERED.

THIS WIFE, SUSANNE, WAS A

FLIGHT ATTENDANT, BUT HER

SALARY ALONE DIDN'T PAY THE

BILLS.

SO THEY CONSIDERED STOPPING

THEIR TITHES.

MY GIRLFRIEND SAID TO ME,

ARE YOU TITHING?

AND I SAID, GAIL, WE CANNOT

AFFORD TO TITHE.

Reporter: GAIL SHOWED

SUSANNE SCRIPTURES ABOUT HOW

GIVING IS IMPORTANT.

SO THE BYRDS CHANGED THEIR

MIND AND CONTINUED TO

TITHE.

A PASSAGE IN THE BIBLE

CONFIRMED THEY WERE DOING

THE RIGHT THING.

"DO NOT BE CONCERNED

ABOUT TOMORROW FOR TODAY HAS

ENOUGH TROUBLES OF ITS

OWN."

IT LODGED IN MY HEART, IF

YOU ARE MY LORD, AND YOU'RE

THE LORD OF THE UNIVERSE, I

TRUST YOU WITH EVERYTHING I

HAVE.

Reporter: AND THAT

MEANT TRUSTING GOD WHEN HE

SOLD THE CAR WASH COMPANY.

HE USED HIS STOCKBROKER

BACKGROUND TO START A

FINANCIAL PLANNING

BUSINESS.

HIS GOAL WAS TO PAY OFF HIS

DEBT AS SOON AS HE BUILT HIS

CLIENTELE.

HE DID IT MORE QUICKLY THAN

HE EVER THOUGHT POSSIBLE.

NOT KNOWING WHERE I WOULD

PAY IT, TO SUDDENLY HAVING

$43,000 THAT WAS OWED PAID

UOFF IN FIVE WEEKS.

IT WAS ONLY FROM THE LORD.

I DO NOT TAKE ANY CREDIT FOR

HAVING THE ABILITY TO EXPAND

MY BUSINESS THAT QUICKLY.

Reporter: THE BYRDS

FEEL GOD SAW THEM THROUGH

THEIR FINANCIAL STORM

BECAUSE THEY WERE FAITHFUL

TO TITHE, EVEN WHEN THEY

THOUGHT THEY COULDN'T.

NOW THEY ARE ALSO CBN

PARTNERS, AND GOD CONTINUES

TO BLESS THEIR BUSINESS.

IF YOU TRUST IN THE LORD,

HE WILL SEE YOU THROUGH.

HE WILL PROVIDE FOR YOU.

HE DID FOR ME.

HE DID FOR US.

Pat: TRUST IN THE LORD

WITH ALL YOUR HEART, LEAN

NOT UNTO YOUR OWN

UNDERSTANDING.

ALWAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM AND

HE WILL DIRECT YOUR PATHS.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED HERE.

THE LORD DIRECTED HIM AND

BLESSED HIM, AND HE'LL BLESS

YOU IF YOU TRUST HIM.

TRUST HIM.

THAT'S WHAT GOD IS LOOKING

FOR, PEOPLE WHO WILL TRUST

HIM.

Terry: RELATIONSHIP,

RELATIONSHIP, RELATIONSHIP.

Pat: THAT'S RIGHT.

TRUST, TRUST, TRUST.

OKAY, SOME OF YOU WANT TO

PARTICIPATE AND HELP CBN DO

WHAT IT DOES, AND WE WOULD

LOVE YOUR HELP, AND WE THANK

GOD FOR YOU THAT WE CAN BE

ON THE AIR AND HELP YOU.

AND WE HAVE SOMETHING --

PEOPLE SEEM TO LIKE IT.

I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE WHY.

ANYHOW, IT IS CALLED "HOW

SHALL WE NOW LIVE?"

Terry: WELL, THIS IS

ANN, WHO LIVES IN INDIANA.

SHE SAID, "HOW SHALL WE NOW

LIVE IS A VERY GOOD D.V.D.

I WAS SURPRISED AT THE

ANSWERS.

SO FEW SEEM TO KNOW JESUS.

I WILL PASS IT AROUND TO MY

FAMILY."

Pat: SCOTT ON THE

STREET TALKED TO PEOPLE AND

WE HAVE THE IPSO SURVEYS,

AND I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT

INTERESTING.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

WITH US TODAY.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.

TOMORROW, WE'RE GOING TO BE

TALKING WITH MEGA CHURCH

PASTOR MATTHEW BARNETT, THE

SON OF TOMMY BARNETT.

AND TODAY WE LEAVE YOU WITH

THESE WORDS FROM JAMES:

"HUMBLE YOURSELF IN THE

SIGHT OF THE LORD, AND HE

WILL LIFT YOU UP."

HUGHUMILITY, THE GREATEST

VIRTUE.

SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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