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Secret Six: Spies Who Saved the American Revolution

A fascinating tale of American heroism has been shrouded in secrecy for more than 200 years. It's the true story of a spy ring that helped turn the tide of the Revolutionary War. Read Transcript


PAT: I REGRET I HAVE ONLY ONE

LIFE TO GIVE FOR MY COUNTRY.

THAT WAS THE STATEMENT OF

AMERICA'S MOST FAMOUS SPY.

THERE ARE OTHERS, UNHIDDEN

HEROS.

WE HAVE A BOOK ABOUT THE SECRET

SPY RING THAT MAY HAVE HELPED

TURN THE WAR AT A CRUCIAL TIME

IN OUR FIGHT FOR INDEPENDENCE.

THAT STORY IS TOLD ON A BOOK NOW

NO. 6 ON AMAZON "SECRET SIX"

BY BRIAN KILMEADE AND ASSOCIATE

DON YEAGER.

BRIAN IS HERE WITH US RIGHT

AFTER WE HAVE THIS.

WHEN GEORGIA'S CONTINENTAL

ARMY LOST IN BROOKLYN HEIGHTS IN

1776 AND WENT ON TO LOSE

MANHATTAN, IT LOOKED LIKE THE

REVOLUTIONARY WAR WAS DEFEATED.

WASHINGTON'S ARMY MADE A COME

BACK AND VICTORIOUS.

IT WASN'T BECAUSE OF THE

MILITARY MIGHT BUT A LITTLE

KNOWN GROUP OF FIVE MEN AND ONE

WOMAN KNOWN AS CULL PEPPER SPY

RING.

FOX AND FRIENDS HISTORY BUFF

BRIAN KILMEADE UNCOVERS THIS IN

HIS BOOK "THE SECRET SIX."

PAT: BRIAN IS HERE WITH US,

GOOD TO SEE YOU

THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON, I

APPRECIATE IT.

PAT: IT READS LIKE AN

ADVENTURE STORY, SECRET SIX.

THE CULL PEPPER RINGS.

CULL PEPPER COUNT, THEY

SHORTEN IT, ORIGINAL GUY SAMUEL

CULLPER.

ALL OF THEM WOULD HAVE SUE

BRANDO NAMES AND WORK THREE AND

A HALF YEARS.

WASHINGTON ONLY MET THREE OF

THEM.

THEY HAD THEIR TRUST AND THEY

TRUSTED WASHINGTON.

WE HAVE THEIR LETTERS AND KNOW

WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED.

PAT: KEY GUY, A MAYOR TALENT.

WASN'T HE DRIVING THE SHOW?

PAT, THIS GUY BELONGS IN YOUR

FOUNDER'S HOTEL.

MAJOR MATAL, HE WAS BY

WASHINGTON'S SIDE.

YOU ARE NOT LEADING A THIRD

PERSON TO INTERPRET WHO

WASHINGTON WAS.

HE WROTE IT DOWN, 77-PAGE

BIOGRAPHY.

HE CAME FROM LONG ISLAND AND

WENT THERE.

WASHINGTON SAID FIND PEOPLE WE

CAN TRUST.

HE FOUND A FARMER, ABRAHAM

WINHAUL, A BAR OWNER, TAVERN

OWNER AND LATER A DRY GOODS

OWNER NAMED ROBERT TOWNSHEND.

HE WAS TOP SECRET UNTIL 1930S.

AS YOU PIECE IT ALTOGETHER, I

COULDN'T BELIEVE THERE WASN'T

UNWOUND BEFORE.

PAT: ARE YOU GOING TO GIVE

HIM SOMETHING, A MONUMENT IN

WASHINGTON?

WE REALLY SHOULD.

I TOOK A PICTURE OF ROBERT

TOWNSHEND'S GRAVE.

HE IS IN THE BACK OF A GRAVE.

FAMILY GRAVE, NON DESCRIPT.

NO ONE VISITS THE ORIGINAL

HEADSTONE.

HE BELONGS WITH MORE POMP AND

CIRCUMSTANCE.

PAT: A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BAD

MOUTHED WASHINGTON, HE WAS

RUNNING ALL THE TIME.

HE LOST BATTLES, LOST MANHATTAN.

THE THING HUNG BY A THREAD, THE

WHOLE AMERICAN EXPERIMENT COULD

HAVE BEEN SNUFFED OUT IN A

COUPLE OF BAD BATTLES.

ONE BIG BATTLE DIDN'T GO

WELL.

WASHINGTON SAID WE CAN OUTLAST

THESE GUYS, THEY CAN'T LAST HERE

FOR LONG.

THEY THREW IN TROOPS, 90,000.

WASHINGTON HUNG AT THE TOP AT

9,000.

HE OUT SPIED THEM.

FIRST QUOTE WASHINGTON DIDN'T

OUT FIGHT US, HE OUT SPIED US.

YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHEN TO FIGHT

AND WHEN TO GET OUT.

IF YOU SIT THERE AND SAY WE

FIGHT AS MEN, NO YOU LOSE.

BATTLE OF BROOKLYN, ESCAPING TO

MANHATTAN.

A FOG APPEARED TO GET OUT TO

FIGHT ANOTHER DAY.

DAY HE LEAVES MANHATTAN, HE GETS

PERMISSION FROM CONGRESS IN

PHILADELPHIA, 9/11, LITTLE DO WE

KNOW WHAT IT WOULD MEAN 100S OF

YEARS LATER.

PAT: UNBELIEVABLE.

YOU HAVE A AN INTERESTING STORY

ABOUT THE HESIONS, ANOTHER SPY

TO SET THAT UP.

HONEYMAN WORKED WITH

WASHINGTON IN FRENCH-INDIAN WAR.

WHEN THIS BROKE OUT, HE DECIDES,

I'LL WORK FOR THE BRITISH.

HE IS A BUTCHER AND HELPING OUT.

HE HAPPENS TO GET CAPTURED BY

WASHINGTON.

THEN HE GOES TO PRISON AND

MAGICALLY GETS OUT.

HE IS SO RELIEVED, HE SAYS GUYS,

KEEP EATING, KEEP DRINKING.

I WAS JUST WITH THE AMERICANS

THEY ARE A MESS.

THEY ARE GOING TO FALL APART.

THEY WERE COMING OVER TO TAKE

OVER THE WHOLE CAMP AND DOUBLE

AGENT.

WASHINGTON BEGAN HIS MAGICAL SPY

ACTIVITY.

PAT: HEGSS WERE DRUNK ON

CHRISTMAS EVE.

THEY WERE HAVING A BIG PARTY.

BETWEEN HALF DRUNK AND HALF

HUNGOVER.

THAT IS THE WORST OF ALL.

THAT IS WHAT I HEAR.

PAT: TRUST ME, IT IS TRUE.

A LOT OF THE HESIONS WEREN'T

BAD.

PAT: DID THE CULL PER RING, I

ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE, HE WASN'T

PART OF THIS RING?

IT TOOK A YEAR FOR WASHINGTON

AND HE WAS DEVASTATED BY HAIL'S

DEATH, SCHOOLTEACHER, YALE GRAD,

CAUGHT IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, HUNG

AT 66TH AND 3RD.

IN MANHATTAN, THERE IS A LITTLE

PLAQUE.

I AM GOING TO TAKE A YEAR, I AM

NOT GOING TO DO A GUY BUT A

RING.

THEY ARE GOING TO HAVE A WAY TO

COMMUNICATE, IF THEY ARE CAUGHT,

THEY WON'T BE CAUGHT.

HE USED INVISIBLE INK, INKRIPGS.

I ASKED -- WE TREAT OUR AGENTS

BEFORE WE SEND THEM ON A

MISSION.

PAT, MY MESSAGE IS THIS, A

BARTENDER, A FARMER, A DRY GOODS

OWNER, A SOCIALITE AND PRINTER.

THEY DID GREAT THINGS FOR AN

EXTRAORDINARY CAUSE.

WE KNOW WASHINGTON IS GREAT.

WE KNOW ABOUT THESE OTHER GUYS,

ALL THOSE EXTRAORDINARY PEOPLE

DID GREAT THINGS.

PAT: WHAT ABOUT BENEDICT

ARNOLD.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM?

BIG MYSTERY WAS A WOMAN.

TOWNSHEND, 714.

SHE WAS 355.

WE BELIEVE SHE GOT CLOSE TO

MAJOR ANDRE.

WORKING TOGETHER TO TURN OVER

WEST POINT.

WOULD HAVE DESTROYED US WE WOULD

HAVE LOST HUDSON AND THE WAR.

WE BELIEVE SHE GOT WORD OUT,

THERE IS A MAJOR OFFICER ABOUT

TO TURN SIDES TO A LOYALIST.

HE BROUGHT IT TO HIS GRAVE WHAT

TOOK PLACE.

TALMAGE WAS ABLE TO EYE BALL

HIM.

THIS IS NO AVERAGE EVERYDAY

BRITISH CITIZEN.

THIS IS A GUY THAT IS ABOUT TO

LINK UP WITH ARNOLD.

THEY FOUND IN HIS SOCK, ARNOLD

ESCAPES.

THEY STOPPED WEST POINT FROM

GOING TO THE BRITISH.

PAT: WHAT GOT HIM OFF, HE WAS

SUPPOSED TO BE A HIGHLY REGARDED

OFFICER?

I THINK HE FELT AS THOUGH HE

WAS GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE

STICK FOR NOT GETTING PAID FOR

GREAT EXPEDITION IN CANADA.

WALKING WITH A LIMP AND WOUNDED,

WASN'T PAID FOR.

I HAVE A SENSE THE WINNERS ARE

GOING TO BE THE BRITISH AND I AM

GOING TO GET THE CLAIM.

HE PICKED WRONG AGAIN.

HE ABANDONED HIS FAMILY AND LEFT

THEM AT WEST POINT TO ESCAPE ON

HIS OWN.

THAT REVEALS HIS CHARACTER.

PAT: HE WAS CAUGHT AND

HANGED.

WASHINGTON SAID WE'LL GIVE

YOU ANDRE, YOU GIVE US ARNOLD.

THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T DO THAT.

HE SAID CAN I GET SHOT IN THE

FIRING SQUAD.

THEY SAID NO YOU ARE HANGED.

MAJOR TALMAGE WRITES ABOUT THAT.

TALK ABOUT CLOSING THE CIRCLE.

I GET CHILLS LOOKING AT IT.

I AM JUST AN AMERICAN THAT

WANTED TO TELL THIS STORY.

PAT: IT IS A FUN STORY.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE GUYS WHEN

IT WAS ALL FINISHED?

THEY BLENDED BACK INTO THE

POPULATION?

AUSTIN KEPT THE BAR.

ROBERT TOWNSHEND NEVER GOT HIS

ACT TOGETHER.

MY OPINION PTSD.

AND 355 DIED, WE BELIEVE BEFORE

THE WAR ENDED.

WHEN ARNOLD GOT BACK INTO THE

CITY, SHE WAS KILLED BY THE

PAPER BACK WE THINK WE COULD BE

CLOSE TO HER NAME.

I HOOKED UP WITH THE TOWNSHEND

FAMILY.

THEY GO WE ARE GOING TO GET TO

THE BOTTOM.

EVERY IS INTO IT.

PAT: IT IS A MYSTERY STORY,

NO. 6 MOVING UP TO ONE.

BRIAN, IT IS A GREAT SUCCESS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I LOOK

FORWARD TO MOST, LET'S GO TO

"THE 700 CLUB" AS SOON AS IT

CAME OUT.

I AM SO JEALOUS OF THESE

FACILITIES.

GORGEOUS.

YOU COULD LAND A PLANE IN THIS

THING.

YOU CAN MOVE FOX AND FRIENDS

DOWN HERE.

WE COME ONCE, WE ARE NOT

LEAVING.

PAT: GEORGE WASHINGTON SECRET

SIX AVAILABLE WHEREVER BOOKS ARE

SOLD.

YOU MAKE THIS HOSTING THING

LOOK TOO EASY.

PAT: I AM IN IT 52 YEARS.

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