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700 Club Interactive: Love Conquers All - Nov.20, 2013

See what happened when one couple dissevered that ministry could not save their marriage. Read Transcript


Gordon: A MATCH MADE IN

HEAVEN.

WE ARE LIVING A DREAM.

Gordon: BECOMES A

MARRIAGE OF CONVENIENCE.

WE DRIFTED TO THIS PLACE

WHERE WE WERE REALLY GOOD

MINISTRY PARTNERS, BUT NOT

VERY GOOD MARRIAGE

PARTNERS.

I CAME HOME FROM CHURCH ON A

SUNDAY AFTERNOON IN OCTOBER,

AND I SAID, I'M DONE WITH

YOU.

Gordon: WHY THEY'RE

MORE IN LOVE NOW THAN EVER

BEFORE ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

ON "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE,"

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FOR EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE

TOPICS THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

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WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A FAIRY

TALE.

A COUNTRY BOY MEETS A CITY

GIRL.

THEY FALL IN LOVE, THEY GET

MARRIED.

FOR JUSTIN AND TRISH DAVIS,

THIS WAS THEIR STORY UNTIL A

WANDERING EYE NEARLY TORE

THEIR HAPPILY EVER AFTER

APART.

I HAD GROWN TO SUCH A

DARK PLACE THAT I ALMOST

DIDN'T WANT TO GO BACK TO

BEING A MOM.

OUR MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP

REALLY BEGAN TO FADE AT A

VERY FURIOUS PACE.

TRISH AND I MET IN 1993, IN

CHRISTIAN COLLEGE.

WE WERE QUITE THE

OPPOSITES.

I GREW UP IN THE INNER CITY,

SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO.

JUSTIN GREW UP IN MORE OF A

FARM COMMUNITY.

WE STARTED DATING IN

JANUARY OF 1994, AND GOT

ENGAGED IN JULY OF 1994.

AND THEN WE GET ENGAGED,

WE FIND OUT, I'M NOT

EXPECTING THE FLU, BUT I'M

EXPECTING OUR FIRST SON,

MICAH.

WE HAD OUR CONFLICTS AND

CHALLENGES, BUT WE FELT LIKE

GOD BROUGHT US TOGETHER.

TRISH AND I STARTED IN

MINISTRY TOGETHER.

OUR GIFTS COMPLEMENTED EACH

OTHER SO WELL.

I THINK WE PRIORITIZED

MINISTRY AS MUCH AS WE DID

OUR MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP,

AS MUCH AS WE DID EVEN OUR

OWN PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP

WITH GOD.

AND SO WHEN YOU DO THAT,

YOUR MOTIVES AREN'T BAD.

I THINK IT IS JUST A SUBTLE

SHIFT THAT HAPPENS OVER THE

COURSE OF TIME.

AND SO FOR THAT FIRST 10

YEARS WE DRIFTED TO THIS

PLACE WHERE WE WERE REALLY

GOOD MINISTRY PARTNERS, BUT

NOT VERY GOOD MARRIAGE

PARTNERS.

IN 2002, GOD LED US TO

PLANT A CHURCH.

THAT WAS THE MEGA DREAM.

IF WE GOT TO PLANT THIS

CHURCH AND IT WAS

SUCCESSFUL, WE THOUGHT IT

WOULD HEAL OTHER PARTS OF

OUR MARRIAGE.

IT FELT LIKE WE FINALLY

HAD A VISION, A COMMON

VISION, TO RALLY AROUND

TOGETHER.

WE WERE BOTH ON THE SAME

PAGE.

PEOPLE STARTED COMING AND

FINDING CHRIST, AND GOD WAS

REALLY SHOWING UP IN A

REALLY POWERFUL WAY.

WE'RE LIVING THE DREAM.

BUT THROUGH THAT, ALL OF

THOSE ISSUES THAT JUSTIN AND

I HAD IN OUR MARRIAGE AND

OUR MINISTRY PRIOR TO THAT

STARTED TO CREEP ITS WAY

UP.

MY NEED FOR TRISH AS A

PART OF THAT VISION BECAME

LESS AND LESS.

I CONVINCED MYSELF I

COULD BE A LITTLE BITTER

TOWARDS JUSTIN, NOT

RECOGNIZING THAT BITTERNESS

WILL ALWAYS LEND ITSELF TO

RESENTMENT.

AND THAT NEXT YEAR, I BECAME

A REALLY RESENTFUL PERSON.

I COULD TELL TRISH AND I

WERE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE.

MINISTRY AND MARRIAGE WAS A

REAL STRUGGLE.

SO IN JULY OF 2005 WE WENT

ON A CRUISE FOR OUR 10-YEAR

ANNIVERSARY.

HE SEEMED TO BE CLOSING

HIMSELF OFF IN GENERAL.

MY RESPONSE WAS, LIKE,

WHATEVER.

I APPROACHED ONE OF OUR

STAFF MEMBERS AND I HAD

FEELINGS FOR HER.

THAT CONVERSATION OPENED THE

DOOR TO WHAT REALLY BECAME

AN INAPPROPRIATE VERBAL

RELATIONSHIP THAT THEN LED

TO A BRIEF PHYSICAL

RELATIONSHIP.

I WAS AT THE POINT WHERE I

WAS GOING TO LEAVE MY WIFE

AND KIDS FOR THIS

RELATIONSHIP.

THAT'S HOW FAST AND FURIOUS

IT HAD DETERIORATED.

I CAME HOME FROM CHURCH ON A

SUNDAY AFTERNOON IN OCTOBER,

AND I SAID, I'M DONE.

AND SHE SAID, YOU'RE DONE

WITH WHAT?

AND I SAID, I'M DONE WITH

YOU.

I DON'T WANT TO BE MARRIED

ANYMORE.

I'M HAVING AN AFFAIR, AND I

WANT OUT.

IT WASN'T A CONFESSION OF

REMORSE.

IT WASN'T A CONFESSION OF

REPENTANCE.

IT WAS SIMPLY A CONFESSION

OF RESIGNATION.

WITH THOSE WORDS, I LOST

EVERYTHING.

I PACKED UP EVERYTHING

JUSTIN OWNED, AND I

REMEMBERED FOLDING HIS

CLOTHES AND SMELLING THEM

AND PUTTING THEM IN A BOX.

IT WAS WORSE THAN DEATH

BECAUSE HE WASN'T DEAD.

HE WAS ALIVE AND WELL.

HE JUST DIDN'T WANT M TO BE

WITH ME.

A FRIEND WAS LET ME

STAYING AT HIS PLACE.

AND EVERYTHING I OWNED WAS

STACKED UP AGAINST A WALL.

I REMEMBER FALLING TO THE

GROUND WITH THIS FEELING OF,

OH, MY GOSH, WHAT HAVE I

DONE?

I HAD A DESIRE AT THAT POINT

TO REALLY FIGHT FOR MY

MARRIAGE AND FIGHT FOR MY

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

AFTER NOT TALKING WITH

HIM FOR 10 DAYS, I SAID I'M

WILLING TO GO TO

COUNSELLING.

BUT I WASN'T PROMISING

ANYTHING.

AND GOD REALLY BEGAN TO

KIND OF REVEAL SOME OF THE

HURT AND PAIN AND WOUNDS

THAT WE HAD INFLICTED ON

EACH OTHER.

BUT THERE WAS STILL SOME

HIDDENNESS AND SOME TRUTH

THAT I WASN'T WILLING TO

SHARE AT THAT POINT.

I JUST KNEW THERE WAS

MORE.

I HAD GIVEN HIM TWO MONTHS

OF COMING TO COUNSELLING,

AND THAT FRIDAY I WENT HOME

AND EVEN TOLD GOD, I'M JUST

DONE.

I JUST REALIZED, I'M NOT

EVEN TELLING IT'S TRUTH TO

MYSELF.

AND SO I CALLED A FRIEND OF

MINE, WENT OVER TO HIS

HOUSE, AND I CONFESSED THAT

I HAD A PORNOGRAPHY

ADDICTION FOR 10 YEARS.

THAT I HAD BEEN SEXUALLY

ABUSED.

AND I SAID, I KNOW THAT

HEALING DOESN'T COME RIGHT

NOW, IN THIS MOMENT, BUT I

KNOW IT STARTS IN THIS

MOMENT.

HE SAID, I'M GOING TO PRAY

THAT GOD WILL GIVE YOU AN

OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THIS

WITH TRISH.

AND I THOUGHT, ARE YOU

CRAZY?

I WAS HAVING MULTIPLE

MOMENTS A DAY CRYING OUT,

LOCKING MYSELF IN A

BATHROOM, AND SCREAMING OUT

TO GOD.

THESE WORDS KEPT ON COMING

TO MY HEART AND MIND, ONE

MORE TIME.

ONE MORE TIME.

I SAID, OKAY, GOD, ONE MORE

TIME.

I CAME TO PICK UP THE

BOYS FOR SCHOOL ON MONDAY,

AND TRISH INVITED ME INTO

THE HOUSE.

AND SHE SAID IF YOU HAVE ANY

HOPE AT ALL OF RESTORING OUR

MARRIAGE, I WANT TO KNOW

EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.

I STARTED CRYING, AND I SAID

AS FAR AS THAT RELATIONSHIP

IS CONCERNED, I TOLD YOU

EVERYTHING.

BUT I HAVE A LOT MORE TO

TELL YOU.

THIS ISN'T ABOUT ME TRYING

TO WIN YOU BACK.

THIS IS ABOUT ME HAVING A

RIGHT RELATIONSHIP WITH

GOD.

JUSTIN FINALLY ALLOWED ME

TO KNOW ALL OF HIM.

AND I LOVED HIM.

AND I WANTED HEALING FOR

HIM.

AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, NOW WE

CAN BEGIN AGAIN.

NOW WE CAN START OVER

BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT HIDING

ANYMORE.

I HAVE EXPERIENCED GRACE,

AND I'VE EXPERIENCED

FORGIVENESS IN A WAY THAT I

NEVER HUMANLY THOUGHT IT WAS

POSSIBLE.

PEOPLE ASK ME, HOW DID

YOU FORGIVE?

I REALIZED, I HAD A

FORGIVENESS ISSUE LONG

BEFORE THE AFFAIR.

I WAS HOLDING JUSTIN HOSTAGE

TO SO MANY OTHER THINGS.

THE AFFAIR WAS JUST, LIKE,

THE THING THAT SENT IT

OVERBOARD.

OUT OF AN OVERFLOW OF

GRACE, YOU LOVE.

GOD DOESN'T ASK HIM TO LOVE

HIM OUT OF OBLIGATION.

TO LOVE HIM OUT OF RESPONSE

TO THE GRACE HE HAS GIVEN

US.

AND THINK THE SAME THING IS

TRUE IN OUR MARRIAGE

RELATIONSHIP.

TO LOVE HER OUT OF THE

OVERFLOW OF THE GRACE AND

THE LOVE AND THE FORGIVENESS

SHE HAS EXTENDED TO ME AT A

TIME WHEN I DIDN'T DESERVE

IT.

I FEEL LIKE IT IS A DEEPER

LOVE THAN WE'VE EVER HAD

BEFORE.

Gordon: MAYBE YOUR

MARRIAGE IS GOING THROUGH

WHAT JUSTIN AND TRISH'S WENT

THROUGH.

AND THEN IT'S JUST AN

ACCUMULATION OF THINGS.

AFFAIRS DON'T JUST START IN

SOME KIND OF VACUUM.

THERE ARE THINGS GOING ON.

IN JUSTIN'S LIFE, THAT THING

WAS PORNOGRAPHY.

A 10-YEAR ADDICTION TO IT.

IN TRISH'S LIFE, IT WAS

UNFORGIVENESS.

IT WAS LEADING TO

BITTERNESS.

IT WAS LEADING TO

RESENTMENT.

IT WAS THE THING THAT THE

BIBLE CALLS THE THING THAT

DEFILES MANY BECAUSE WE ALL

HOLD ON TO THINGS.

WE ALL HAVE THAT BITTERNESS

THAT WE ARE RIGHT.

WE WERE WRONGED.

AND I'M JUSTIFIED IN HOLDING

ON.

FOR JUSTIN, WHAT DID IT

TAKE?

IT TOOK HIM GETTING HONEST.

AND NOT WITH TRISH, BUT WITH

HIMSELF.

SO HE COULD FINALLY HAVE A

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD THAT

WAS FREE FROM THESE THINGS.

GOD CALLS US TO LIVE RIGHTS

RIGHTEOUSLY.

HE DOESN'T CALL US TO LIVE

PART-TIME CHRISTIAN LIVES.

HE CALLS US TO LIVE

RIGHTEOUSLY.

AND WHEN WE DO THAT, AND

WHEN THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH

HIM IS PERFECT, THEN ALL OF

THOSE WONDERFUL THINGS START

TO HAPPEN.

THEN THE GRACE HE HAS GIVEN

US, THE LOVE HE HAS GIVEN

US, THE RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE

WITH HIM, STARTS SPILLING

OUT INTO ALL OUR OTHER

RELATIONSHIPS.

POOFOR TRISHA, WHAT DID IT

TAKE ON HER PART?

LETTING GO.

FORGIVING.

SETTING JUSTIN FREE.

NO LONGER HOLDING HIM IN A

PRISON OF JUDGMENT, BUT

SETTING HIM FREE.

SO THAT THINGS WILL COME

THAT WON'T TRIGGER HER

ANYMORE BECAUSE SHE HAS

FORGIVEN, AND ALL OF THAT IS

FREE.

ALL OF THIS SHOWS US THE

RELATIONSHIP THAT GOD WANTS

TO HAVE WITH US.

AND HERE IT IS IN 1 PETER 5:

"IN HIS KINDNESS" --

UNDERSTAND IT IS FROM HIS

KINDNESS -- "GOD HAS CALLED

YOU TO HIS ETERNAL GLORY BY

MEANS OF CHRIST JESUS."

THERE IS A LOT OF THEOLOGY

THERE, BUT WE NEED TO

UNDERSTAND IT IS THE

GOODNESS OF GOD THAT LEADS

TO REPENTANCE, THAT LEADS TO

THAT TURN, THAT CHANGE OF

MIND, THAT CHANGE OF HEART.

IF YOU'RE SITTING THERE

THINKING GOD'S ANGRY AT YOU,

CHANGE YOUR THINKING.

FOR GOD SO LOVED THE

WORLD -- YOU, IN THE MIDDLE

OF SIN.

THIS IS LOVE, THAT WHILE WE

WERE YET SINNERS, CHRIST

DIED FOR US.

SO IF YOU'RE A SINNER, GOD

LOVES YOU AND HE WANTS TO

TURN YOU AROUND.

AND YOU CAN BELIEVE IT.

IN HIS KINDNESS, IN HIS

LOVE, HE HAS DONE ALL OF

THESE THINGS.

NOW, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN

TO US WHILE WE'RE LIVING.

JESUS PROMISES US WE'RE

GOING TO HAVE PERSECUTION.

HE PROMISES US IN THIS WORLD

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE

TROUBLE.

AND HERE IS WHAT PETER SAID:

"AFTER YOU HAVE SUFFERED A

LITTLE WHILE, HE WILL

RESTORE SUPPORT AND

STRENGTHEN YOU, AND HE WILL

PLACE YOU ON A FIRM

FOUNDATION."

THAT "RESTORE" WORD IN GREEK

LITERALLY MEANS PUT BACK

TOGETHER AGAIN.

IT IS A PERFECTION THAT HE

IS LOOKING FOR.

WHAT HE ORIGINALLY INTENDED

FOR YOU AND I, FOR ALL

PEOPLE, EVERYWHERE, FOR ALL

TIME.

WHAT HE INTENDED WAS FOR US

TO LIVE IN A GARDEN, FOR US

TO HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH

HIM, WHERE HE WOULD COME

DOWN IN THE COOL OF THE

EVENING AND TALK WITH US.

HE IS ABLE TO RESTORE THAT,

TO MAKE THAT PUT TOGETHER,

BACK AGAIN, SO THAT WE'RE

PERFECT, PERFECT BEFORE

HIM.

AND HE IS WILLING TO DO IT.

AND HE IS WILLING TO DO IT

FOR YOUR MARRIAGE IF YOU

JUST TRUST HIM.

WHAT'S THE FIRST STEP?

HAVING YOUR RELATIONSHIP

WITH HIM RESTORED, AND

REALIZING YOU'RE CALLED TO

BE WITH HIM, THAT ETERNAL

GLORY.

HE HAS DONE THAT IN HIS

KINDNESS.

AND THEN IF YOU ALLOW THAT

TO WORK, AND BE HONEST WITH

YOURSELF AND HONEST WITH

HIM, AND TURN FROM ANYTHING

YOU'RE DOING WRONG, TURN

FROM IT, AND PURSUE HIM,

THEN ALL THESE OTHER THINGS

WILL BE ADDED UNTO YOU.

JUSTIN AND TRISH SAID, WE

NOW HAVE A BETTER

RELATIONSHIP.

WE'RE ON THAT FIRM

FOUNDATION.

THAT CAN HAPPEN TO YOU.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO START

THAT TODAY, WE'RE HERE FOR

YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

US.

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AND IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE

IN YOUR MARRIAGE, WE'VE GOT

A FREE PAMPHLET FOR YOU.

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MARRIAGE."

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

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WE CAN E-MAIL IT TO YOU

RIGHT TODAY.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE E-MAIL,

THAT'S FINE.

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WELL, STILL AHEAD, A

WORKOHOLIC HAS FOUND A WAY

TO CUT BACK HIS HOURS AND

EARN MORE MONEY.

GET HIS SECRET, UP NEXT.

Gordon: MIKE DYSON

LIVED TO WORK.

HE SPENT MORE TIME AT THE

OFFICE THAN HE DID AT HOME.

AND HIS JOB WAS SLOWLY

KILLING HIM.

SO HE DECIDED TO PUT HIS

LOVE FOR HIS FAMILY ABOVE

THEIR FINANCIAL SITUATION.

TAKE A LOOK.

MIKE DYSON WORKED 90 TO

100 HOURS EACH WEEK AS A

MANAGER FOR A AUTO PARTS

COMPANY.

I WORKED ALL OF THOSE

HOURS, IN ESSENCE, LIKE A

SLAVE.

I WOULD GET AS MANY AS 300

TO 500 E-MAILS A DAY.

YOU FEEL LIKE A SINKING

SHIP.

YOU JUST CAN'T EVER REALLY

CATCH UP.

Reporter: MIKE KNEW

STRESS AND THE LONG HOURS

WERE TAKING THEIR TOLL ON

HIS HEALTH AND HIS

RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS WIFE,

BECKY.

GOING TO THE MOVIES OR

DATE NIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE

THAT WERE PRETTY WELL

NON-EXISTENT FOR THE MOST

PART.

IT WAS JUST KIND OF WORK,

WORK, WORK.

Reporter: MIKE DECIDED

TO QUIT HIS JOB AND LOOK FOR

A NEW ONE.

HE TOOK ONE WITH LESS

STRESS, BUT ALSO LESS

MONEY.

MY WIFE AND I WERE

WATCHING "700 CLUB."

AND MY WIFE SAID, WE SHOULD

SOW INTO THAT MINISTRY.

WE WERE LIVING PAYCHECK TO

PAYCHECK, BUT WE CALLED IN

AND MADE THAT $20 PLEDGE AND

COMMITMENT.

Reporter: THAT SAME

YEAR, GOD TOLD THEM TO BUY

INTO A FITNESS CENTER.

WE REALLY SOUGHT GOD.

WE FASTED AND SEEKED WHAT

GOD WANTED US TO DO.

WE FELT IT WAS THE THING FOR

US TO DO.

Reporter: THE BUSINESS

TOOK OFF, AND EXCEEDED ALL

EXPECTATIONS IN THE FIRST

SIX MONTHS.

ARE WE BLESSED?

WE ARE.

BUT WE WHOLEHEARTEDLY

BELIEVE AND KNOW IT IS ABOUT

POURING THE BLESSINGS

THROUGH US TO OTHER PEOPLE

AND OTHER MINISTRIES, LIKE

CBN AND "700 CLUB."

Reporter: TODAY THEY

OWN TWO FITNESS FRANCHISES

AND ARE CONSIDERING A

THIRD.

WHEN WE STARTED TITHING

TO CBN, THAT ATMOSPHERE

CHANGED IN OUR LIVES.

TO SEE WHERE WE ARE NOW,

ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT.

I HAVEN'T WORKED IN THE

CORPORATE WORLD OR FOR

SOMEBODY ELSE NOW FOR OVER

TWO YEARS.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE WHERE

WE'RE AT TODAY.

GOD WAS TEACHING US

SOMETHING.

WE STEPPED INTO THAT LAW OF

RESIPROCITY.

AND I THINK I WAS TEACHING

AGAIN -- AGAIN, IT GOES BACK

TO THE TRUST LEVEL, AND THAT

HE IS A TRUSTWORTHY GOD.

HE IS TRUSTWORTHY.

Gordon: IT DOES GO BACK

TO TRUST.

IF YOU'RE IN FINANCIAL

DIFFICULT, DO YOU TRUST GOD

WITH YOUR FINANCES?

AND ARE YOU SHOWING THAT

THROUGH YOUR TITHES AND

OFFERINGS?

THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.

TRUST ME.

TEST ME NOW IN THIS AND SEE

IF I WILL NOT OPEN THE

WINDOWS OF HEAVEN AND POUR

OUT A BLESSING THAT YOU

CANNOT CONTAIN.

HERE IS MIKE, HE IS WORKING

90 TO 100 HOURS A WEEK.

WELL, IT CERTAINLY -- YOU

SAY, HE'S HARD-WORKING.

HE IS TRYING TO MAKE IT FOR

HIS FAMILY.

HE IS TRYING TO EARN IT.

BUT BECAUSE HE IS NOT

TRUSTING GOD, NONE OF THE

BENEFITS ARE COMING.

AND IT'S LIKE HE HAS HOLES

IN HIS POCKETS.

NOTHING EVER SEEMS TO

CHANGE.

BUT AS SOON AS HE TRUSTED

GOD WITH HIS FINANCES, AS

SOON AS HE TOOK THAT STEP OF

FAITH, AND IT IS A STEP OF

FAITH TO SAY, GOD, I TRUST

YOU.

I TRUST YOU WITH REAL

THINGS, LIKE MY MONEY.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT

MY FUTURE, AND YOU'RE GOING

TO BE FAITHFUL TO ME.

AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, THAT'S

WHEN THE WINDOWS OF HEAVEN

OPEN.

THAT'S WHEN THE BLESSINGS

COME.

AND IT'S NOT A ONE-TIME

THING.

IT IS THAT CONTINUAL I'M

GOING TO TRUST GOD.

I'M GOING TO HONOR HIS

WORD.

I'M GOING TO PUT MY MONEY

WHERE MY FAITH IS.

AND THAT'S WHEN THE

BLESSINGS COME.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT,

JOIN WITH US.

JUST CALL US.

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AND WHEN YOU GIVE TO CBN,

YOU'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE

AROUND THE WORLD.

YOU'RE HELPING PREACH THE

GOSPEL TO PEOPLE THAT HAVE

NEVER HEARD IT BEFORE.

WE HAVE 18, NOW, PRODUCTION

CENTERS, LOCATED

STRATEGICALLY AROUND THE

WORLD, WHERE WE TRAIN LOCAL

CHRISTIANS HOW TO DO

CHRISTIAN TELEVISION.

NOT IN ENGLISH, BUT IN THEIR

OWN LANGUAGE.

SHOWING TESTIMONIES OF WHAT

JESUS IS DOING IN THEIR

NATION.

NOT SOME FAR AWAY PLACE OR

FAR AWAY TIME.

AND IT IS ALL MADE POSSIBLE

BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU

GIVE.

AND A PORTION OF EVERY GIFT

GOES INTO THE WORK OF CBN

INTERNATIONAL TO DO JUST

THAT, TO PREACH THE GOSPEL

AROUND THE WORLD.

ANOTHER PORTION GOES INTO

THE WORK OF "OPERATION

BLESSING" TO HELP PEOPLE,

AND TO DRILL WATER WELLS, TO

HELP ORPHANS, TO PROVIDE

MEDICAL CARE, PROVIDE

MEDICAL MISSIONS.

ALL OF IT MADE POSSIBLE

BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU CARE

ENOUGH TO GIVE.

SO IT DOES MATTER.

YOU DO MATTER.

AND YOUR GIFTS MATTER.

SO DO IT NOW, CALL US NOW.

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WELL, STILL AHEAD, A SMALL

LUMP GROWS INTO STAGE FOUR

CANCER.

HE SAID TO ME,

MR. FORNIER, I DON'T KNOW IF

YOU KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE DAYS

TO LIVE.

I WAS THINKING, WHAT IS THIS

GOING TO BE LIKE?

BECAUSE I REALIZED I WAS

DYING.

Gordon: THE TREATMENT

THAT BECAME A MIRACLE, WHEN

WE COME BACK.

Gordon: WHEN CANCER

SPREAD THROUGHOUT JOE'S

BODY, DOCTORS THOUGHT THE

END WAS NEAR.

JOE DID, TOO.

BUT NOT HIS WIFE.

BECAUSE SHE WAS HOLDING ON

TO A PROMISE.

Reporter: JOE FORNIER

HAD ALWAYS BEEN AN ACTIVE,

HEALTHY MAN.

I WAS ALWAYS SO HEALTHY.

ANY TIME I HAD ANYTHING

PHYSICALLY WRONG WITH ME, I

PRETTY MUCH IGNORED IT

BECAUSE I THOUGHT I'M GOING

TO JUST TOUGH THROUGH THIS.

Reporter: IN 2002 WHILE

VACATIONING WITH HIS WIFE,

TERRY, JOE NOTICED A LUMP

UNDER HIS ARM.

I THOUGHT, WELL, I'VE HAD

OTHER LUMPS AND CYSTS ON MY

BODY.

IT IS PROBABLY NOTHING.

AND I THOUGHT, WELL, JUST

IGNORE IT AT FIRST.

AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

HE WAS REALLY TIRED.

AND HE TOLD ME ABOUT THIS,

BUT I JUST THOUGHT, OKAY,

YOU JUST NEED TO GO TO THE

DOCTOR.

Reporter: BY THE TIME

THEY CAME HOME, THE LUMP HAD

GROWN.

JOE VISITED THEIR FAMILY

DOCTOR.

HE SAID, WHATEVER IT IS,

IT'S NOT CANCER.

AND HE SAID THAT AT TWO

DIFFERENT APPOINTMENTS.

AND SO THAT KIND OF REALLY

PUT ME AT EASE.

HE THOUGHT IT WAS A CYST.

AND HE THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS

AN INFECTION OR SOMETHING,

SO HE GAVE ME ANTIBIOTICS

AND TRIED DIFFERENT THINGS

TO TRY TO CALM IT DOWN OR

MAKE IT GO AWAY.

Reporter: THE LUMP KEPT

GROWING.

AND HIS DOCTOR FINALLY SENT

JOE FOR A SONOGRAM.

AND THE TECH SAID, THIS

IS NOT A CYST.

THESE ARE LYMPH NODES.

AT THAT TIME, IT WAS

PROBABLY GETTING CLOSE TO

GOLF BALL SIZE.

EVENTUALLY I WENT IN TO GET

THE BIOPSY, AND THE SURGEON

SAID THAT THE CANCER WAS TWO

BASEBALL SIZES BY THE TIME

HE TOOK ONE OF THEM AWAY FOR

THE BIOPSY.

Reporter: JOE HAD STAGE

FOUR METASTATIC MELANOMA.

THE AGGRESSIVE CANCER WAS

SPREADING THROUGHOUT HIS

BODY.

ONCE THEY TOOK EVERYTHING

OUT FROM UNDERNEATH MY ARM,

IT SPREAD TO MY STOMACH.

SO THEY HAD TO TAKE A THIRD

OF MY STOMACH OUT.

AND THEY TOOK SOME LYMPH

NODES OUT.

Reporter: DOCTORS SENT

JOE TO PITTSBURGH WHERE HE

RECEIVED HIGH DOSES OF

INTERLUKIN 2.

A VERY POTENT FORM OF

CHEMOTHERAPY.

IT IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM

BOOSTER, AND IT WAS BRUTAL.

IT TURNED OUT THAT DIDN'T

WORK.

IT ONLY GREW EVEN MORE.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

THE CANCER INVADED HIS

KIDNEYS, LUNGS, AND

PANCREAS.

THE DOCTORS TOLD JOE IT WAS

ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE

HE WOULD LOSE HIS BATTLE.

HE SAID TO ME,

MR. FORNIER, I DON'T KNOW IF

YOU KNOW, BUT YOU HAVE DAYS

TO LIVE.

THERE WERE TIMES WHEN LATE

AT NIGHT I'D BE LAYING IN

THE HOSPITAL, AND I WOULD BE

THINKING IN THE DARK, KIND

OF A DARK-KNIGHTED SOUL,

WHAT IS THIS GOING TO BE

LIKE?

BECAUSE I REALIZED I WAS

DYING.

Reporter: BUT TERRY

BELIEVED THAT GOD WOULD HEAL

JOE.

I WAS REALLY FEARFUL, AND

I THINK THAT'S WHEN GOD GAVE

ME A PROMISE.

ABIDE IN ME AND WHATEVER YOU

WISH, YOU WILL GET IT.

THAT'S WHEN I THOUGHT THE

LORD WAS TELLING ME HE WAS

GOING TO BE OKAY.

Reporter: THEY MET AN

ONCOLOGIST, WHO TOLD THEM

ABOUT AN EXPERIMENTAL

TREATMENT.

IT WAS A LONG SHOT AT BEST,

BUT THEY WERE OUT OF

OPTIONS.

IT WAS A HIGHLY TOXIC

REGIMEN, AND I WAS CONCERNED

ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO

TOLERATE IT.

HE WAS QUITE ILL AT THE

TIME.

VERY WEAK, HAD LOST A LOT OF

WEIGHT.

I CERTAINLY WAS ANXIOUS TO

GET HIM STARTED ON THERAPY,

BUT ALSO FACED IT WITH SOME

TREPIDATION BECAUSE

TREATMENTS ARE VERY, VERY

DIFFICULT TO TOLERATE.

Reporter: DESPITE THE

DANGERS, JOE AGREED TO THE

TREATMENTS.

MEANWHILE, THEIR CHURCH

PRAYED, BELIEVING THAT GOD

WOULD HAVE THE FINAL WORD.

WHY DOES EVERYONE SAY

"THY WILL BE DONE" AND NOT

THE REST OF THAT VERSE.

"AS IT IS IN HEAVEN."

SO I STARTED THINKING, IS

MELANOMA IN HEAVEN?

OR SICKNESS IN HEAVEN?

I STARTED TO ASK FOR HEAVEN

TO COME TO EARTH.

AND I THINK WE STARTED

GETTING BOLDER.

AFTER THE FIRST ROUND, I

COULD FEEL -- I HAD TWO

MASSES, ONE ABOVE AND ONE

BELOW MY COLLARBONE.

I COULD FEEL THOSE SHRINK

AND GO AWAY.

AFTER THE SECOND ROUND, THEY

SAID, YOU'VE HAD SIGNIFICANT

SHRINKAGE ON THE INSIDE.

AND THEN, AFTER THE THIRD

ROUND OF THE CHEMO, IT WAS

TOTALLY GONE.

I HAD A P.E.T. SCAN AND THEY

SAID, THERE IS NO CANCER.

YOU ARE CANCER-FREE.

HE TOLD ME WHAT HAPPENED TO

ME DOESN'T HAPPEN.

HE HAS NEVER SEEN IT

HAPPEN.

THAT'S THE MOMENT I KNEW,

AND THE MOMENT I WANTED THE

NURSES AND THE DOCTORS TO

SAY THIS IS A MIRACLE, AND

THAT THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED

BEFORE.

I FOUND THAT PATIENTS WHO

HAVE GREAT FAITH TEND TO DO

BETTER THAN THOSE WHO

DON'T.

WE CAN'T ALWAYS PREDETERMINE

WHO WILL RESPOND WELL AND

WHO WON'T.

THAT IS SOMETHING BEYOND OUR

CONTROL.

AND ULTIMATELY, GOD IS THE

ULTIMATE HEALER, AND WE PUT

OUR TRUST IN HIS HANDS.

Reporter: FOR EIGHT

YEARS JOE HAS BEEN

CANCER-FREE.

HE IS BACK TO ENJOYING LIFE,

KNOWING THAT EACH DAY IS A

GIFT FROM GOD.

THIS CANCER WAS WAY

BIGGER THAN ME, BUT I FOUND

THAT WITH GOD ON MY SIDE,

THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING.

IT IS A GAME CHANGER, HAVING

HIM.

HE SHOWED ME HOW WEAK I WAS

APART FROM HIM, BUT HOW

STRONG I CAN BE IN HIM.

FOREME, FOR ME, I THINK

CANCER WAS ONE OF THOSE

CALLS ON OUR MARRIAGE, THAT

I TOOK ALL OF MY EXPECTATION

OFF OF JOE, AND PUT ALL OF

MY EXPECTATION ON CHRIST.

THERE IS NOTHING

IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD.

IF HE CHOOSES TO HEAL, HE

CAN DO IT IN A FLASH.

I THINK THAT HAS HELPED ME

TO TRUST HIM, TRUST HIS

GOODNESS, TRUST HIS POWER

AND HIS ABILITY.

Gordon: YOU CAN TRUST

HIM.

I LOVE TERRY'S PRAYER.

IT'S THE LORD'S PRAYER.

AND SHE IS SAYING, "THY WILL

BE DONE."

AND SO OFTEN WE STOP THERE

AND SAY, MAYBE IT IS GOD'S

WILL THAT I HAVE THIS

SICKNESS OR ILLNESS.

THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

START THINKING ABOUT

HEAVEN.

IS ANYBODY SICK IN HEAVEN?

WELL, THAT'S WHERE GOD'S

WILL IS PERFECTLY BEING

DONE.

SO "THY WILL BE DONE ON

EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN."

WE ARE COMMANDED TO BRING

THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN TO

EARTH.

SO LET'S DO THAT RIGHT NOW

AND PRAY FOR YOU.

LORD, IN JESUS' NAME WE ASK

NOW THAT YOUR WILL WOULD BE

DONE IN THESE BODIES THAT

NEED HEALING.

WE PRAY HEAVEN INTO THEM,

THAT YOUR PRESENCE WOULD

OVERWHELM THEM.

AND THAT IT WOULD BE DONE IN

THEIR BODIES NOW.

HEAL THEM NOW.

FOR WE ASK IT IN JESUS'

NAME.

AMEN.

IF YOU NEED SOMEONE TO PRAY

WITH YOU, WE BELIEVE IN

PREVAILING PRAYER, SO CALL

US.

1-888-777-1999.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM COLOSSIANS: "AND

THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF

CLOTHING YOU MUST WEAR IS

LOVE.

LOVE IS WHAT BINDS US ALL

TOGETHER IN PERFECT

HARMONY."

GOD BLESS YOU.

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