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The 700 Club - Feb 12, 2014

Faith and prayer sustained Erik and his family after he suffered serious injuries from a shark attack. Plus, severe physical abuse left Nathi deaf, but CBN was able to provide the necessary hearing aids to restore her hearing after 30 years ... ... Read Transcript


I WAS AN INSULIN

DEPENDENT, FIVE INJECTIONS A

DAY PERSON.

HOW THIS WOMAN AND OTHERS

ARE REVERSING DIABETES WITH

THEIR DIETS ALONE.

I HAVE NEVER FELT SO

GOOD.

PLUS...

I NEVER SAW IT COMING.

A SHARK ATTACK IN SHALLOW

WATERS.

YOU COULD HEAR THE

RIPPING SOUND OF YOUR FLESH

BEING RIPPED.

HOW THIS MAN BEAT THE

ODDS THROUGH THE POWER OF

PRAYER.

*

Pat: HEY, WELCOME.

WE'VE GOT A GREAT SHOW FOR

YOU.

WENDY IS HERE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

Wendy: IT IS GREAT TO

SEE YOU.

HOW YOU DOING?

Pat: I AM FINE.

IS THAT FOR VALENTINE'S DAY

IN ADVANCE?

Wendy: ABSOLUTELY.

IT IS TWO DAYS AWAY.

IT IS VALENTINE'S WEEK AND

YOU HAVE A ROMANTIC DATE SET

UP?

Pat: I DO, INDEED.

IT IS EXPENSIVE.

VALENTINE'S DAY IS A CHANCE

FOR THESE RESTAURANTEURS TO

MAKE A LITTLE PROFIT.

Wendy: WE HAVE A

CHAPTER IN MY BOOK CALLED

"YOU ARE WORTH THE PRICE OF

DINNER AND DESSERT," SO DEE

DEE, ORDER DESSERT.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: IT IS THE

POLITICAL SCANDAL YOU ARE

HEARING ABOUT IN THE NEWS,

THE I.R.S. TARGETING OF TEA

PARTY GROUPS, AND THAT

SCANDAL IS FAR FROM OVER.

Wendy: NOW SOME CRITICS

SAY THE I.R.S. IS GOING TO

TRY TO DO THE SAME THING

AGAIN IN THIS YEAR'S

ELECTIONS.

PAUL STRAND BRINGS US THE

STORY FROM WASHINGTON.

Reporter: QUIETLY OVER

THANKSGIVING THE I.R.S.

ANNOUNCED NEW RULES THAT

CRITICS SAY WOULD ALLOW THE

AGENCY TO CONTINUE ITS TOUGH

TARGETING OF TEA PARTY AND

OTHER CONSERVATIVE GROUPS.

THIS LAWYER REPRESENTED SOME

OF THESE GROUPS WHEN THE

I.R.S. HELD UP THEIR

TAX-EXEMPT STATUS FOR

YEARS.

AND SUBJECTED ALL OF

THESE GROUPS TO EXTREME

SCRUTINY, BURDENSOME

QUESTIONS.

ONE OF MY CLIENTS RECEIVED

102 QUESTIONS FROM THE

I.R.S.

Reporter: BUT MITCHELL

SAYS WHAT THE I.R.S. WAS

DOING QUIETLY FROM 2009 TO

'13 IT IS NOW DOING OPENLY

TO THE KIND OF 501 C-4

GROUPS.

NOW WHAT THE I.R.S. IS

DOING -- IT HASN'T STOPPED.

IN FACT, NOW THE I.R.S., IN

PLAIN SIGHT, IS TRYING TO

MAKE PERMANENT ALL OF THE

AWFUL THINGS THEY WERE DOING

TO TEA PARTY GROUPS, AND NOW

EXTEND THAT TO EVERY 501 C-4

ORGANIZATION IN AMERICA AND

MAKE IT PERMANENT.

IT IS REALLY QUITE

DREADFUL.

THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE

TRYING TO SHUT UP.

Reporter: TEA PARTY

LEADERS AND JAY SECULO FOR

THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW

AND JUSTICE JUST TESTIFIED

ABOUT THIS BEFORE CONGRESS.

SECULO IS SUING THE I.R.S.

HE SAYS NO TOP OFFICIALS ARE

INVOLVED IN SPECIFICALLY

INVOLVING CONSERVATIVE

GROUPS.

THIS WAS TARGETED

DISCRIMINATION COMING FROM

THE INTERNAL REVENUE

SERVICE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS

NOW IS THAT OUR VIEW IS THAT

THAT DETERMINATION CAME FROM

THE HIGHEST RANKS OF THE

INTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE.

Reporter: PAUL STRAND,

CBN NEWS, THE I.R.S.

Pat: WELL, THE LEADING

ATTORNEY IN THIS CASE IS JAY

SECULO, FROM THE AMERICAN

CENTER FOR LAW AND JUSTICE,

AND HE IS WITH US NOW FROM

NASHVILLE.

JAY, THE PRESIDENT SAID

THERE WASN'T ANY EVIDENCE

WHAT'S OVE WHATSOEVER OF

ANY WRONG-DOING.

IS HE LYING?

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

PAT, HOW WOULD YOU PRESIDENT

EVEN KNOW?

THE F.B.I. REQUESTED LATE IN

DECEMBER TO INTERVIEW THREE

OF OUR CLIENTS.

WE SENT A LETTER, EVEN SOME

CORRESPONDENCE AS OF

YESTERDAY, ASKING FOR SOME

ASSURANCES, ONE OF WHICH IS

THE PRESIDENT SAID THERE IS

NO SMIDGEON OF ONGOING

CORRUPTION, THEN WHY DO YOU

NEED TO TALK TO OUR CLIENTS

ABOUT A SO-CALLED CRIMINAL

INVESTIGATION OF THE

I.R.S.?

AND WE WANT TO KNOW IF THAT

INVESTIGATION IS REAL.

SO WE'RE WAITING FROM A

RESPONSE FROM THE DEPARTMENT

OF JUSTICE.

I PROBABLY WILL GET IT THIS

AFTERNOON.

IN REALITY, PAT, THE

PRESIDENT PRE-JUDGED IT

BECAUSE HE HAS TO.

THIS IS A SCANDAL THAT HAS

REACHED THE HIGHEST LEVELS

OF THE INTERNAL REVENUE

SERVICE.

YOU AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING

TOGETHER A LONG TIME.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CASES

WHERE YOU KEEP PLOWING AWAY,

AND SLOWLY BUT SURELY

INFORMATION COMES OUT.

THE SMOKING GUN LAST WEEK

WAS AN INTERVIEW THAT WAS

RELEASED BY THE HOUSE WAYS

AND MEANS COMMITTEE, WHICH

INVOLVED BOTH TESTIMONY FROM

STEVEN MILLER, THE THEN

ACTING COMMISSIONER OF

INTERNAL REVENUE, WHO SAID,

BY THE WAY, THEY INITIATED

THIS PLAN OF ASSAULT, IF YOU

WILL, AGAINST THESE

CONSERVATIVE GROUPS AT THE

BEHEST OF SENATOR CARL

LEVIN.

AND HE PREVIOUSLY TESTIFIED

HE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING

ABOUT THE TARGETING.

SO UNDER OATH HE CHANGED

THAT TESTIMONY.

WISE MOVE ON HIS PART.

THEN YOU HAVE AN E-MAIL THAT

IS RELEASED.

THAT E-MAIL FROM FIVE DEPUTY

CHIEF COUNCILS OF THE

I.R.S.

THERE IS THE CHIEF COUNCIL

AND THE FIVE DEPUTIES.

THESE DEPUTIES ARE ON THIS

E-MAIL.

GUESS WHO IT IS TO?

LOIS LEARNER.

SHE TOOK THE FIFTH AMENDMENT

WHICH SHE WAS CALLED TO

TESTIFY.

THE PRESIDENT MAY WANT TO

SAY THERE IS NOT A SMIDGEON

OF EVIDENCE, BUT THE HEAD OF

THE TAX EXEMPT TOOK THE

FIFTH AMENDMENT.

SO THE PRESIDENT IS

INCORRECT AS A MATTER OF

LAW.

Pat: CAN THEY GRANT HER

IMMUNITY IN THE CONGRESS AND

THEN FORCE HER TO TESTIFY?

YES.

AND YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT

THAT.

I THINK THEY NEED TO DO

THAT.

THEY SHOULD HAVE GIVEN HER

SOME FORM OF IMMUNITY BASED

ON THE INFORMATION SHE WOULD

GIVE.

BECAUSE WE NOW KNOW EVEN

THOUGH THEY IS A HIGH

RANKING INDIVIDUAL, IT

STARTED MUCH HIGHER THAN

HER.

WE NEED TO GET TO WHO WAS

THE AGENCY LEAD THAT WAS

RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS.

PAT, WE'RE GETTING AWFUL

CLOSE FOR THIS.

IT IS GETTING CLOSE WHERE

CONGRESS HAS DONE JUST ABOUT

EVERYTHING THEY CAN DO.

AND SENATOR TED CRUZ AND

ANOTHERS HAVE SAID IT IS

PROBABLY TIME FOR A SPECIAL

COUNCIL TO LOOK INTO THIS.

I DON'T THINK THE I.R.S. IS

ABLE TO SELF-CORRECT.

AND I DON'T THINK THE F.B.I.

IS REALLY ABLE TO DO A

THOROUGH INVESTIGATION FOR

WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE.

Pat: OBAMA HAS CHOSEN

SOMEBODY TO REPRESENT THE

PUBLIC IN THIS MATTER AND

INVESTIGATE, BUT HE HAPPENS

TO BE ONE OF HIS MAJOR

CONTRIBUTORS.

CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THAT.

HER NAME IS BARBARA

BOSSERMAN, AND SHE IS THE

JUSTICE LAWYER.

WITHOUT MEANING ANY

DISRESPECT TO HER AT ALL,

I'M SURE SHE IS A VERY

CAPABLE LAWYER, BUT IT

WREAKS OF IMPROPRIETY.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ABOVE

REPROACH OR ANY TYPE OF

BIAS.

FRANKLY, THIS SHOULD HAVE

BEEN HANDLED BY SOMEONE WITH

THE PUBLIC CORRUPTION UNIT

THAT DOESN'T HAVE THIS

HISTORY.

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS

WE DON'T ASK WHAT POLITICAL

POSITIONS OUR CLIENTS OR

LAWYERS HAVE.

BUT SHE HAD THE OBLIGATION

TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M

PROBABLY NOT THE BEST ONE TO

DO THIS.

I'M A MAXIMUM DONOR TO THE

OBAMA CAMPAIGN.

Pat: JAY, IS THIS IN

ENDEMIC IN THIS

ADMINISTRATION, THAT ALL THE

WAY ALONG THEY SEEM TO BE

IGNORING THE CONSTITUTION.

THEY BYPASS CONGRESS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING

ON?

I THINK THEY'RE CONFUSING

A MONARCHY WITH A

CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.

THE REALITY IS, WHAT THE

PRESIDENT DID WITH THE

MANDATE TWO DAYS AGO, NOW

EXTENDING THE EMPLOYER

VERSION OF THE MANDATE FROM

50 TO 99 PEOPLE -- THEY'RE

ONLY DO THAT BECAUSE THEY

KNOW THE LAW FALLS ON ITSELF

IF THEY DON'T DO IT.

SO WHEN THEY -- THE

PRESIDENT GOES AHEAD AND

DOES IT HIMSELF.

ALL THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IS

PROP UP A LAW THAT IS

FAILING.

IT IS CONTINUING TO FAIL.

AND I THINK THE REALITY IS

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE

WISING UP TO IT.

THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE IS

GOING TO LEGISLATE BY PEN

AND PHONE.

WE HAVE SET UP A UNIT IN THE

ACLJ THAT IS GOING TO

MONITOR EVERY REGULATION.

THERE IS AN ATTEMPT BY THE

I.R.S. TO CODIFY ITS BAD

BEHAVIOR, THAT WOULD

REGULATIONS IN PLACE THAT

WOULD ELIMINATE THE FREE

SPEECH OF 501 C-4s.

THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING

THAT RIGHT NOW.

Pat: HOW DO YOU STOP

THIS ILLEGAL ACTIVITY?

BY WHAT YOU AND I ARE

DOING RIGHT NOW.

THIS IS LITIGATION IN THE

COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.

IT IS FINE TO FILE SUIT

AGAINST THE I.R.S.

WE'VE DONE THAT.

THERE IS A LOT OF

ORGANIZATIONS FILING

COMMENTS AGAINST THE

I.R.S.'S PROPOSED REGULATION

CHANGE.

I'LL TELL YOU HOW BAD THIS

REGULATION CHANGE IS.

NOT ONLY DOES IT

SIGNIFICANTLY CURTAIL THE

FIRST AMENDMENT, BUT, PAT,

THEY WERE OFFERING A

SETTLEMENT BACK AT THE END

OF THE YEAR IF THE 501

C-4s WOULD JUST AGREE TO

40%, THEY WOULD

AUTOMATICALLY BE GRANTED

EXEMPTION.

BUT THEY KNEW THEY WERE

GOING TO CHANGE THE RULE ON

WHAT CONSTITUTES ALLOWED

ACTIVITY.

SO THEY WERE BASICALLY

TRYING TO DO A LEFT HOOK AND

KNOCK THESE GROUPS OUT.

THEY KNEW THEY WERE CHANGING

THE RULES.

SO THEY'RE NOT DEALING

EVEN-HANDED HERE, AND I

THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET TO

THE BALLOT BOX THIS COMING

MID-TERM ELECTIONS AND MAKE

A STAND.

IF THE SENATE GOES INTO A

DIFFERENT DIRECTION, THINGS

CHANGE DRASTICALLY.

Pat: JAY, WE APPRECIATE

WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

BRING US UP TO DATE ON THESE

MATTERS BECAUSE THEY'RE SO,

SO VERY IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU KNOW WE WILL, PAT.

Pat: JAY SECULO WITH

THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW

AND JUSTICE FIGHTING FOR

YOU.

DOWN IN OUR PART OF THE

COUNTRY, IT IS COLD, AND UP

NORTH IT IS GOING TO GET

COLDER.

LAKE SUPERIOR FROZEN OVER

TOTALLY.

UP TO TWO FEET OF ICE IN

SOME AREAS.

AND DULUTH, MINNESOTA,

HAVING BELOW 0° TEMPERATURES

FOR OVER 30 DAYS.

IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

Wendy: SOMEBODY ON

Facebook LAST NIGHT TOLD

ME IT WAS -29° IN IOWA LAST

NIGHT.

I SAID, ARE YOU IN THE NORTH

POLE?

AND HE SAID, I THINK IT IS

WARMER AT THE NORTH POLE.

Pat: I HAVE BEEN IN -60

WINDCHILLS, AND SO I KNOW

WHAT IT IS LIKE TO GET

COLD.

AND I'VE BEEN IN DULUTH WHEN

IT WAS 20 BELOW ZERO, AND IT

IS TOUGH.

IT IS COLDER THAN EVER, AND

THE ICE IS COMING ON.

IN ANY EVENT, LET'S GO TO

OUR NEXT STORY.

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY

FROM WASHINGTON.

Reporter: PAT, SPEAKING

OF WEATHER, 16 STATES, FROM

THE DEEP SOUTH TO THE

MID-ATLANTIC ARE BRACING FOR

THE EPIC STORM.

HEATHER CELLS HAS THIS

REPORT ON THE COLD AND

DANGEROUS WINTER WEATHER.

Reporter: 100 MILLION

AMERICANS ARE PREPARING YET

AGAIN FOR EXTREME WEATHER.

FORECASTERS SAY SNOW AND ICE

COULD CRIPPLE CITIES AND

ENDANGER LIVES.

IN TEXAS, FOUR PEOPLE HAVE

ALREADY DIED IN TRAFFIC

ACCIDENTS ON ICY ROADS.

THIS LATEST STORM IS JUST

ANOTHER PIECE OF SEVERE

WEATHER IN WHAT HAS BECOME A

RECORD-BREAKING WINTER IN

MANY COMMUNITIES IN THE

UPPER MIDWEST, LAKE SUPERIOR

IS ALMOST THE 90% FROZEN,

AND IT COULD FREEZE OVER FOR

THE FIRST TIME SINCE 1996.

IN MUCH OF THE SOUTH,

AUTHORITIES ARE WARNING

PEOPLE TO STAY HOME.

OUR GOAL IS TO BE

OVERPREPARED AND HOPEFULLY

BE OFF-WHELMED BY THE

STORM.

Reporter: ICE IS A BIG

CONCERN, ESPECIALLY IN THE

SOUTH, WHERE SO MANY TREES

AND LIMBS HANG OVER POWER

LINES.

THIS IS ONE OF MOTHER

NATURE'S WORST KINDS OF

STORMS THAT CAN BE INFLICTED

ON THE SOUTH, AND THAT IS

ICE.

IT IS OUR BIGGEST ENEMY.

Reporter: FORECASTERS

SAY ICE WILL COAT SIX STATES

IN A DANGEROUS GLAZE.

IN ATLANTA, COMMUTERS STAYED

OFF THE ROADS ON MONDAY,

HOPING TO AVOID THE

DISASTEROUS TRAFFIC JAM OF

TWO WEEKS AGO.

AND MANY ARE GETTING READY.

WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE

GAS IN CASE YOU LOSE POWER.

YOU CAN FIRE UP THE

GENERATOR.

WE'VE GOT BREAD AND

CEREAL AND CRACKERS AND

SOUP, THINGS YOU CAN MAKE

PRETTY EASILY.

Reporter: CITIES UP AND

DOWN THE I-95 CORRIDOR ARE

ALSO PREPARING FOR SNOW.

AS MUCH AS A FOOT IS

EXPECTED IN SOME AREAS.

HEATHER CELLS, CBN NEWS.

Reporter: HERE IN

WASHINGTON, HOUSE

REPUBLICANS HAVE PASSED A

NEW DEBT CEILING TO LET THE

GOVERNMENT BORROW MORE MONEY

FOR 13 MONTHS.

CONSERVATIVES ARE UNHAPPY

WITH REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP

FOR NOT GETTING ANY

CONCESSIONS FROM THE

DEMOCRATS.

MEANWHILE, THE HEAD OF THE

FEDERAL RESERVE BOARD, JANET

YELLEN TOLD CONGRESS THE

ECONOMY IS GETTING BETTER,

BUT THE FED NEEDS TO HELP IT

ALONG BY KEEPING INTEREST

RATES LOW.

STOTIOSTOCKS RALLIED

IMMEDIATELY AFTER YELLEN'S

COMMENTS.

Pat: I CAN'T BELIEVE

THE STOCK MARKET, BUT IT IS

UP ALMOST 200 POINTS.

WE SHOULDN'T CRITICIZE

BOEHNER BECAUSE HE IS

PLAYING IT VERY SMART ON

THIS ONE.

Wendy: THE GOOD NEWS IS

THE MARKET WENT UP

YESTERDAY.

AND SO THERE IS SOME SILVER

LINING HERE.

Pat: IN TERMS OF THE

DEBT, IN 1917, THEY HAD A

RULE THAT EVERY TIME THERE

WAS A DEBT ISSUE, CONGRESS

HAD TO APPROVE IT.

EVERY TIME THEY -- OF COURSE

THEY'VE GONE TO THE POINT

WHERE THE FEDS ARE PUTTING

BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF

DOLLARS OF NOTES AND BONDS

AND SO FORTH, AND THAT'S

OKAY.

BUT THEY'VE RUN THE DEBT TO

AN INSUPPORTABLE AMOUNT.

THE PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING,

HOW COME, BOEHNER, YOU DON'T

GO UP THERE AND FIGHT.

HE SAID, NO, NO, NO.

THE BIG FIGHT IS ON HEALTH

CARE.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HIM DOWN

ON HEALTH CARE, AND WE DON'T

WANT TO BE DISTRACTED BY

THIS DEBT CEILING.

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THAT

FIGHT ANYHOW, SO LET'S NOT

WASTE OUR FIRE ON IT.

DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE

WHITES OF THEIR EYES.

THE REPUBLICANS, IF THEY'RE

SMART, WILL GO ALL OUT ON

HEALTH CARE.

AND THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA

SAY WE DON'T LIKE THIS

HEALTH CARE LEGISLATION, AND

THE REPUBLICANS NEED TO MAKE

HAY OUT OF IT.

Wendy: IT SEEMS LIKE,

IN TERMS OF THE DEBT

CEILING, WHETHER YOU'RE A

REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRATIC

ADMINISTRATION, IT IS ALWAYS

THE SAME.

Pat: IT IS KIND OF

TOUGH, WENDY, IF THEY'VE

ALREADY SPENT THE MONEY.

AND SO OBAMA SAYS WE'VE GOT

TO PAY OUR BILLS.

WELL, YEAH, SURE.

YOU KEEP ON SPENDING AND

THEN YOU HAND US THE I.O.U.

BUT, NEVERTHELESS, IN TERMS

OF PUBLIC PERCEPTION, HE

GETS THE HIGH GROUND, AND

THEN YOU TAKE IT AWAY FROM

HIM, AND IT WAS VERY SMART

POLITICS.

JOHN?

Reporter: PAT, GET

THIS, CARS, TVs AND

COMPUTERS COULD HELP

CONTRIBUTE TO OBESITY.

A NEW STUDY OF POOR

COUNTRIES FINDS THAT PEOPLE

WHO OWN THOSE THINGS ARE

MORE LIKELY TO BE OVERWEIGHT

BECAUSE THEY'RE SITTING AND

EATING MORE AND DRIVING

INSTEAD OF WALKING OR

EXERCISING.

THE CITY, PUBLISHED IN THE

CANADIAN MEDICAL JOURNAL

WARNS AS MODERN DAY

CONVENIENCES SPREAD TO POOR

COUNTRIES, THEY COULD SEE

THE SAME LEVELS OF OBESITY

AND DIABETES AS IN DEVELOPED

NATIONS.

AND THAT STUDY ALSO REPORTED

A 400% INCREASE IN OBESITY

FOR PEOPLE WHO OWNED ALL OF

THOSE THINGS.

Pat: WELL, I OWN THOSE

THINGS, BUT I'LL TELL YOU,

I'M CUTTING DOWN.

THERE ARE WAYS TO KEEP

WEIGHT OFF.

AND YOU HAVE TO DO IT.

BECAUSE WENDY IS HERE.

AND SHE IS A HEALTH FITNESS

FREAK.

SHE WORKS OUT AND RUNS AND

HIKES.

Wendy: IT IS HARD IN

THIS COLD WEATHER TO GET

OUT.

BECAUSE I LOVE TO BE

OUTDOORS.

BUT I HAVE HIT THE GYM A FEW

TIMES THIS WEEK.

AND I TAKE THE STAIRS.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THREE --

WE'RE A BIG BUILDING HERE,

SO SOMETIMES I'LL JUST TAKE

A BREAK AND RUN THE STAIRS.

THERE ARE LITTLE THINGS YOU

CAN DO INSIDE.

Pat: HAVE YOU SEEN THAT

WONDERFUL AD OF THE KID WHO

IS SITTING ON THE SOFA AND

HE RINGS THE TELEPHONE, AND

THE OLD LADY GETS UP AND

ANSWERS IT AND SAYS, BRING

ME OTHER DRINK?

Wendy: NO.

AND SHE LOOKS AT HIM, LIKE,

PLEASE, GET UP.

Pat: THAT'S THE WAY IT

IS.

Wendy: WELL, COMING UP,

THERE IS A DIABETES EPIDEMIC

IN AMERICA, AND THE MAIN

CULPRIT, YUP, YOU GOT IT,

SUGAR.

SEE HOW THIS DEADLY DISEASE

CAN BE REVERSED SIMPLY BY

CHANGING YOUR DIET.

Pat: A DIAGNOSIS OF

DIABETES IS LIKE A SENTENCE

OF DEATH.

AND MORE THAN 26 MILLION

AMERICANS SUFFER FROM

DIABETES.

IT'S TYPE 1 AND TYPE 2.

THAT'S 10 TIMES THE NUMBER

OF JUST 50 YEARS AGO.

10 TIMES.

BUT DESPITE AMERICAN DIETS

FILLED WITH SUGAR AND

SOARING OBESITY RATES, OUR

LORI JOHNSON SAYS THERE IS

HOPE.

HOW SOME PEOPLE ARE

REVERSING DIABETES, GETTING

OFF THEIR MEDICATIONS, AND

IN THE PROCESS FEELING

GREAT.

HERE IS LORI.

Lori: LIKE MILLIONS OF

AMERICANS, JANET FELT

DIABETES RUINING HER LIFE.

THEN SHE CHANGED HER DIET.

I WILL TELL YOU, I HAVE

NEVER FELT SO GOOD.

I THINK HAVING MY BODY FREE

OF SUGAR AND CARBS AND

PROCESSED CHEMICALS HAS MADE

SUCH A DIFFERENCE.

Lori: IT'S A FAR CRY

FROM THE FEAR SHE FELT EIGHT

YEARS AGO WHEN DOCTORS FIRST

DIAGNOSED HER WITH

DIABETES.

SHE SAW WHAT IT DID TO HER

UNCLE.

HE ENDED UP ON FULL

DIALYSIS AND BLIND AND THEY

HAD -- HE ALSO HAD CORONARY

BYPASS SURGERY.

AND THEY HAD STARTED TALKING

ABOUT AMPUTATION.

BUT HE DIED.

Lori: DIABETES IS WHEN

THERE IS TOO MUCH SUGAR IN

THE BLOOD.

THE STANDARD TREATMENT IS

LARGELY MEDICATION.

JANET'S FIRST DOCTOR PUT HER

ON MEDICATION THAT LED TO

WEIGHT GAIN AND DEPRESSION.

AND THIS KIND OF MADE ME

SLUGGISH.

IT MADE ME DIZZY.

IT MADE ME LETHARGIC.

Lori: DAILY LIFE BECAME

A SERIES OF FINGER STICKS,

CONSTANTLY MONITORING HER

BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS.

BELIEVING THERE HAD TO BE A

BETTER WAY, SHE CHANGED

DOCTORS.

I CAME HOME AND GOOGLED,

AND DR. WESTMAN'S NAME KEPT

COMING UP.

AND I WAS FORTUNATE ENOUGH

TO GET INTO SEE HIM.

Lori: THAT APPOINTMENT

SENT HER TO THE NATIONALLY

RECOGNIZED DUKE LIFESTYLE

MEDICINE CLINIC AND DR. ERIC

WESTMAN, WHO HELPED REVERSE

JANET'S DIABETES THROUGH HIS

DIET-ONLY APPROACH.

DIABETES AND OBESITY IS

COMPLICATED.

BUT MOST EXPERTS AGREE IT IS

THE FOODS AND BEVERAGES THAT

PEOPLE EAT THAT IS THE MAJOR

CAUSE FOR DIABETES AND

OBESITY IN THE U.S.

SO THAT SHOULD BE THE MAJOR

FOCUS OF TREATMENT.

Lori: INSTEAD OF

TREATING THE SUGAR IN HIS

PATIENT'S BLOOD WITH

WESTMAN, HE SIMPLY

ELIMINATES THEIR SUGAR

INTAKE.

THE PROGRAM IS

TREMENDOUSLY SUCCESSFUL IF

YOU DO IT.

Lori: SUSAN DID IT AND

WENT FROM SPENDING $400 A

MONTH ON DIABETES DRUGS DOWN

TO ZERO.

I WAS AN INSULIN

DEPENDENT, FIVE INJECTIONS A

DAY PERSON.

THE THIRD DAY OF MY DIET, MY

BLOOD SUGAR DROPPED TO 150.

AND I ASKED DR. WESTMAN,

WHAT SHOULD I DO ABOUT MY

INSULIN?

I DIDN'T WANT TO GO OVER.

HE SAID, GET OFF OF IT.

Lori: THAT WAS THREE

MONTHS AGO.

NOW SHE IS 20 POUNDS

LIGHTER, WITH GREATER ENERGY

THAN BEFORE.

DR. WESTMAN ADMITS IT IS NOT

EASY FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GIVE

UP SUGAR.

THERE IS A FEED FORWARD,

A DRIVE THAT COMES FROM

EATING SUGAR, AND EATING

SUGAR MAKES YOU WANT TO EAT

MORE SUGAR.

Lori: SO HIS PATIENTS

USE ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS TO

MANAGE THEIR WITHDRAWAL

SYMPTOMS.

AFTER A WHILE, YOU DON'T

CRAVE THOSE THINGS.

Lori: IN ADDITION TO

SUGAR, DR. WESTMAN'S DIET

ALSO LIMITS STARCHES, LIKE

BREAD, PASTA, AND RICE,

BECAUSE THEY ALSO RAISE YOUR

BLOOD SUGAR.

SURPRISINGLY, THE DIET

ALLOWS PATIENTS TO EAT FATS,

THE UNSATURATED KIND, LIKE

OLIVE OIL AND AVOCADOS, AND

SATURATED FATS, LIKE COCONUT

OIL AND BUTTER.

ALTHOUGH THIS DIET MAY SOUND

REVOLUTIONARY, IT IS

ACTUALLY A THROWBACK.

THIS IS AN OLD MEDICAL

TEXTBOOK BEFORE THE YEAR

1900, BEFORE INSULIN WAS

DISCOVERED, ADVISING

PHYSICIANS TO PUT THEIR

DIABETIC PATIENTS ON A LOW

CARBOHYDRATE, LOW-FAT DIET.

HE TELLS HIS PATIENTS NOT TO

WORRY ABOUT EATING SATURATED

FAT BECAUSE THE LATEST

SCIENCE REVEALS IT DOES NOT

CAUSE HEART DISEASE.

WE'RE IN A PHASE OF

EDUCATION, TRYING TO GET THE

WORD OUT HOW THE CHOLESTEROL

AND THE BLOOD AND THE

ARTERIES DO NOT GET

ADVERSELY AFFECTED BY A

HIGH-FAT DIET.

Lori: SO TO AVOID

DIABETES OR REVERSE IT, PUT

THE BRAKES ON SUGAR AND

STARCH.

IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY, BUT

WELL-WORTH THE EFFORT.

Pat: LORI JOHNSON IS

HERE WITH ME.

YOU MISSED THAT LITTLE DEMO

THE OTHER DAY ABOUT HOW MUCH

SUGAR WE EAT.

I WAS DUMPING SUGAR INTO A

POT.

Lori: I SAW IT.

Pat: YOU SAW IT?

Lori: SURE I SAW IT.

EVERYBODY WAS TALKING ABOUT

IT.

YOU KNOW HOW MUCH SUGAR THE

AVERAGE PERSON EATS A DAY?

A THIRD OF A POUND.

Pat: WHERE DO THEY GET

IT?

Lori: THE SUGARY

BEVERAGES, AND HIGH FRUCTOSE

CORN SYRUP, AND IT'S ADDED

TO EVERYTHING, BREAD, PASTA

SAUCE, YOGURT AND RICE

CAKES.

Pat: IN YOGURT?

Lori: NOT ALL OF IT.

BUT IF YOU SEE HIGH FRUCTOSE

CORN SYRUP OR SUGAR, RUN FOR

THE HILLS.

Pat: THIS DIABETES

THING IS LIKE A SENTENCE OF

DEATH.

PEOPLE ARE CHOPPING THEIR

FINGERS AND TOES OFF AND

THEIR KIDNEYS SHUT DOWN.

IT IS A HORRIBLE THING.

Lori: IT IS A HORRIBLE

THING.

AND SO MANY PEOPLE DON'T

KNOW THEY HAVE IT.

ABOUT SEVEN MILLION PEOPLE

DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE IT, AND

ABOUT 80 MILLION PEOPLE ARE

PRE-DIABETIC RIGHT NOW.

IT MEANS YOUR FIXING TO GET

IT, AS WE USED TO SAY IN

ARKANSAS.

IT MEANS YOUR BLOOD SUGAR IS

ELEVATED, HIGHER THAN

NORMAL, BUT YOU'RE NOT IN

THE DIABETIC RANGE YET.

BY DIABETES IS A PROGRESSIVE

DISEASE, SO IT GETS WORSE

UNLESS YOU TREAT IT.

Pat: WHEN THERE IS ONE

THAT YOU'RE KIND OF BORN

WITH IT.

AND IT IS TYPE 2 THAT MOST

PEOPLE ARE GETTING.

Lori: RIGHT.

TYPE 1 DIABETES IS ONLY

ABOUT 5%.

SO THIS STORY WAS ABOUT TYPE

2 DIABETES, WHICH IS BROUGHT

ON BY YOUR BEHAVIOR, BY BAD

CHOICES.

Pat: THE DEAL IS, I

UNDERSTAND YOUR ADRENAL

GLANDS, YOU'RE PUSHING THE

ALL OF THE TIME, AND THE

INSULIN COMES OUT AND YOUR

BODY IS NO LONGER ACCEPTING

INSULIN AS IT SHOULD.

Lori: RIGHT.

IT BREAKS DOWN YOUR BODY'S

DELIVERY OF INSULIN.

Pat: WE'RE FORCING THAT

ALL OF THE TIME.

Lori: IT IS LIKE

DRIVING THE CAR WITH THE

PEDAL TO THE METAL ALL OF

THE TIME, AND IT BREAKS

DOWN.

Pat: YOU DRINK TWO OR

THREE COKES --

Lori: RIGHT.

ONE COKE A DAY, OR ONE CAN

OF COKE A DAY, RAISES YOUR

CHANCE OF GETTING TYPE 2

DIABETES BY 22%.

Pat: COME ON.

Lori: YEAH.

RIGHT NOW ABOUT 10% OF THE

POPULATION HAS IT.

IN 1956 ONLY 2% HAD IT.

IF IT KEEPS GOING ON, A

THIRD OF THE POPULATION WILL

HAVE TYPE 2 DIABETES BY THE

YEAR 2050.

Pat: IF SOME GREAT

PLAINTIFFS' LAWYERS ARE

WATCHING THIS PROGRAM, AND

THEY BEGIN TO SUE COCA-COLA

FOR GIVING PEOPLE DIABETES.

HOW DO YOU STOP IT?

COKE IS LIKE THE AMERICAN

WAY.

Lori: RIGHT, AND A LOT

OF PEOPLE ARE ADDICTED TO

IT.

BUT JUST LIKE ANY OTHER

SUBSTANCE ABUSE, ANY OTHER

ADDICTION, LIKE ADDICTION TO

NICOTINE OR ALCOHOL OR

ILLEGAL DRUGS, OR EVEN LEGAL

DRUGS, YOU CAN BREAK THAT

ADDICTION.

AND SO MANY PEOPLE -- I'VE

TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE

WHO SAY DON'T TALK TO ME

ABOUT CUTTING OUT

CARBOHYDRATES.

I LOVE MY BREAD AND PASTA

TOO MUCH.

I COULD NEVER GIVE THEM UP.

THOSE ARE THE WORDS OF AN

ADDICT.

THE REASON WE DID THIS STORY

TO GIVE HOPE TO PEOPLE WHO

ARE ADDICTS, SUGAR ADDICTS.

YOU NEED IT TO SURVIVE.

YOU CAN BREAK THAT IF YOU GO

ON A PROGRAM AND IF YOU LOOK

AT OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE

BEEN ADDICTED TO SUGAR

BEFORE AND BROKE OUT OF THAT

BONDAGE.

BECAUSE, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT IS

BONDAGE.

Pat: THIS HIGH FRUCTOSE

CORN SYRUP CORN SYRUP,

AGAIN, I, AGAIN, IT IS A

MONEY THING.

THEY'VE GOT THE SENATORS

PUSHING FOR A DEAL.

IT IS A CURSE THAT IS --

HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP IS

IN EVERYTHING.

Lori: IT IS.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL

LIKE THEY CAN'T GIVE IT UP.

AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE

THAT ARE DIABETIC.

BUT THEY CAN GIVE IT UP.

AND THERE IS HOPE THAT THEY

CAN REVERSE THEIR DIABETES

AND GET OFF THEIR DRUGS.

AND A WORD TO THE PEOPLE --

THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO

HAVE DIABETES WHO ARE

UNDIAGNOSED.

AND THAT IS A VERY SERIOUS

PLACE TO BE.

Pat: THIS IS LIKE THE

ATKINS DIET.

IT DOESN'T AFFECT THE

ARTERIES AND SO FORTH IF

YOU'RE GOING TO EAT STEAK

AND FAT AND BACON.

Lori: NO, BUT THERE ARE

GOOD FATS AND BAD FATS.

THE OMEGA 6 FATS ARE NOT

VERY GOOD.

THEY CAUSE INFLAMMATION, THE

VEGETABLE OIL, THE CORN OIL,

THE SOYBEAN OIL.

BUT THE UNSATURATED FATS

LIKE THE AVOCADOS, THE NUTS,

THE OLIVE OIL, THOSE ARE

GOOD.

AND ACCORDING TO THIS DIET,

THE SATURATED FATS, LIKE

COCONUT OIL -- YOU'RE LIKE

AGAIN, AGAIN, ME AND THE

COCONUT OIL -- AND THE

BUTTER AND SOME OF THE

SATURATED FATS --

Pat: NOT MARGARINE?

Lori: NO.

MARGARINE IS A TRANS-FAT.

THE WAY TO RECOGNIZE

TRANS-FATS IS TO LOOK ON THE

LABEL -- THERE YOU GO,

HYDROGENATED.

Pat: HAVING TO SHOOT

YOURSELF WITH INSULIN FOUR

OR FIVE TIMES A DAY AND YOU

MONITOR WHAT YOU EAT AND

WATCH YOUR TOES GET CUT

OFF -- THAT'S NOT FUN.

WHY DO YOU WANT TO DIE?

I'M A FAN OF OATMEAL IN ITS

PURE FORM.

Lori: SURE.

IT HAS A SLOW RELEASE AND

HAS A LOT OF FIBER IN IT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE

DIABETES DON'T REALIZE IT

CAN BE REVERSED.

Pat: STEVIA IS A GOOD

SWEETENER AND IT DOESN'T

HAVE ANY OF THE SIDE

EFFECTS.

SOME OF THE CHEMICALS -- I

USED TO BE A BIG FAN OF

SWEET AND LOW, BUT THAT WILL

MAKE YOU FAT, TOO.

Lori: RIGHT, BECAUSE IT

CREATES THAT CRAVING FOR

SWEET.

YOU WILL WANT SOMETHING WITH

THE REAL STUFF LATER.

DR. WESTMAN ADVISES PEOPLE

TO USE THE FAKE SWEETENERS

HAS A WITHDRAWAL.

IT GIVES YOU THAT TASTE OF

SWEETS, BUT EVENTUALLY YOU

WANT TO GET AWAY FROM ALL OF

IT.

THESE PEOPLE ARE SUGAR

ADDICTS FOR MANY YEARS AND

THEY'VE REVERSED THEIR

DIABETES AND REVERSED THEIR

CRAVINGS FOR SWEETS, WHICH

IS SUCH A HOPEFULLY MESSAGE

TO THE MILLIONS OF AMERICANS

WHO REALLY ARE ADDICTED TO

SUGAR.

Pat: I HAD A FRIEND WHO

IS A VERY PROMINENT

BUSINESSMAN, WEALTHY,

WELL-TO-DO, AND HE GOT

DIABETES.

AND I SAW THAT HE USED TO

RUN THREE MILES A DAY AND

ALL OF THIS STUFF, AND I SAW

HIM DETERIORATE THE LAST

TIME I WAS WITH HIM.

HE WAS IN A WHEELCHAIR.

AND HE DIED, BUT IT WAS THE

DIABETES THAT KILLED HIM.

AND IT JUST BREAKS YOUR

HEART.

Lori: PEOPLE WITH

DIABETES HAVE A LIFE

EXPECTANCY THAT IS FIVE TO

10 YEARS SHORTER THAN

AVERAGE PEOPLE.

Pat: LORI, I APPRECIATE

WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS

SUGAR.

WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH

SUGAR?

YOU'LL SEE THE CONGRESS

PASSING LAWS THAT BOOST THE

SUGAR PRODUCTION AND

PROHIBIT FOREIGN SUGAR FROM

COMING IN SO OUR SUGAR IS

MORE EXPENSIVE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE

SUGAR PRODUCERS ARE MAKING A

FORTUNE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER

IT'S CANE SUGAR OR SUGAR

FROM OTHER SOURCES.

SUGAR IS SUGAR, RIGHT?

Lori: THAT'S RIGHT.

AND CORN, TOO.

THEY MAKE THE HIGH FRUCTOSE

CORN SYRUP --

Pat: THEY'RE THE ONES

AND THE FARM STATE SENATORS

ARE PUSHING THAT STUFF, AND

EVERYBODY THINKS IT IS

GREAT.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT IS

BIG MONEY, BIG BUCKS, AND

IT'S COMING OUT OF YOUR

HIDE.

KEEP THAT IN MIND.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT A

SCANDAL, THAT IS A SCANDAL.

LORI, KEEP IT UP.

YOU'RE DOING WONDERFUL.

SHE IS KEEPING YOU ALIVE.

WENDY?

Wendy: GREAT

INTERVIEW.

THANKS, PAT AND LORI.

COMING UP LATER, WE'RE GOING

TO "BRING IT ON" WITH YOUR

E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

IF YOU ARE ASKED, WHAT DOES

IT MEAN WHEN SOMEONE ASKS,

YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE YOU'RE

RIGHT WITH GOD BEFORE IT IS

TOO LATE.

AND HOW DO YOU KNOW IF

YOU'RE RIGHT WITH GOD.

AND LATER, A FAMILY

SNORKLING TRIP TURNS

TERRIFYING WHEN A SHARK

ATTACKS.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THIS,

SO STAY TUNED.

Wendy: WELL, IT IS TIME

FOR YOUR E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

AND A VIEWER WRITES IN,

"WHAT DOES IT MEAN WHEN

SOMEONE SAYS, YOU SHOULD

MAKE SURE YOU'RE RIGHT WITH

GOD BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

WHY WOULD SOMEONE SAY THAT,

AND HOW DO YOU KNOW IF

YOU'RE RIGHT WITH GOD?"

PAT?

Pat: WHAT THEY'RE

SAYING IS, ARE YOU

COMMITTING SIN?

ARE YOU DOING THINGS YOU

KNOW ARE WRONG.

SEXUAL SINS, DRUNKENNESS,

DRUG ADDICTION, STEALING,

AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

GET RIGHT WITH GOD.

THAT'S WHAT IT MEANS.

MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CONFESSED

YOUR SIN AND HE HAS FORGIVEN

YOU OF YOUR SIN, AND THEN

YOU'RE BEGINNING TO LIVE THE

LIFE YOU KNOW HE WANTS YOU

TO LIVE AND OBEY HIS

COMMANDMENTS.

BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN THE

BIBLE THAT SAYS GET RIGHT,

THOSE EXACT WORDS.

Wendy: TERRY

WRITES, "IF THE GREAT FLOOD

KILLED EVERYONE IN THE WORLD

EXCEPT NOAH AND HIS FAMILY,

WHERE DID ALL OF THE RACES

COME FROM?"

Pat: HE HAD THREE SONS,

JIM, HAM AND JAFF.

KUSH WAS APPARENTLY A BLACK

MAN.

THEY THINK THE RACES FROM

AFRICA CAME FROM HAM.

BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE LONG, IF

SOMEBODY IS LIVING IN A

TROPICAL CLIMATE AND HE IS

EXPOSED TO THE SUN, HIS

PIGMENTATION AGAINST TO

CHANGE FROM ONE GENERATION

TO ANOTHER.

THESE ARE HUNDREDS OF

YEARS.

NOAH WAS 500 YEARS OLD.

IT WAS 100 YEARS AFTER HE

BUILT THE ARK.

AND THEN HE HAD SONS AND

DAUGHTERS AFTER THAT.

Wendy: AND HE HAD MORE

THAN ONE WIFE.

Pat: LOTS OF WIFE.

THEY ONLY LIST ONE WIFE IN

THE ARK.

Wendy: THAT'S PROBABLY

A GOOD THING.

IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN A

DIFFERENT STORY IF HE HAD

MORE THAN ONE WIFE IN THE

ARK.

WILLIAM WRITES, "I HAVE

HEARD PEOPLE CITE 5: 26, AND

IT SAYS YOU WILL NOT COME

OUT."

Pat: THEY ARE TALKING

ABOUT LAWSUITS.

IF SOMEBODY TAKES YOU TO

COURT, SETTLE WITH HIM ON

THE WAY THERE.

YOU WON'T GET OUT UNTIL YOU

HAVE PAID THE LAST CENT.

IF YOU'VE GOT A LAWSUIT, THE

BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS

SETTLE IT.

MOST GOOD LAWYERS WILL SAY,

LET'S MAKE A SETTLEMENT.

LET'S NOT MAKE IT TO A JURY

BECAUSE JURIES DO FUNNY

THINGS.

WHAT ELSE?

Wendy: RICH WRITES,

"THE BIBLE CLEARLY SAYS THOU

SHALT NOT KILL.

YET THE SAME GOD COMMANDS

THE ISRAELITES TO SMITE.

WHY WOULD GOD TELL PEOPLE TO

KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

IS GOD IN DANGER OF HIS OWN

JUDGMENT?"

Pat: YOU SAY THEY'RE

INNOCENT, BUT HOW DO YOU

KNOW THEY'RE INNOCENT.

THOSE PEOPLE WERE COMMITTING

INCENSE AND THEIR LIST OF

ACTIVITIES IS HORRENDOUS.

GOD SAID, DON'T DO WHAT

THOSE PEOPLE DID, AND HE

GOES DOWN THE LIST.

THEY WERE HAVING SEX WITH

THEIR DAUGHTERS.

THEY WERE HAVING SEX WITH

THEIR SONS.

AND HAVING SEX WITH

ANIMALS.

IT GOES DOWN THE LIST OF ALL

OF THESE HORRIBLE THINGS.

AND THERE COMES A TIME THAT

GOD SAYS, LOOK, THE MOST

MERCIFUL THING, THE MOST

MERCIFUL THING IS TO GET RID

A THOUSAND OF THEM BEFORE WE

HAVE 100,000 DOING THE SAME

THING AND I'LL HAVE TO GET

RID OF THEM.

BUT GOD TELLS US NOT TO

MURDER.

THAT'S WHAT "THOU SHALT NOT

COMMIT MURDER."

IT DOES NOT SAY YOU SHALT

NOT HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY.

THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT

MURDER.

MURDER IS NOT WAR.

PEOPLE GO TO WAR, AND

UNFORTUNATELY THEY KILL EACH

OTHER, BUT THAT ISN'T THE

SAME THING.

Wendy: CHRIS WRITES, "I

HAVE HEARD PEOPLE SAY WE ARE

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

TRIBULATION RIGHT NOW.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

HOW CAN WE KNOW WHEN THE

TRIBULATION BEGINS?"

Pat: WELL, I DON'T KNOW

HOW WE KNOW FOR SURE.

BUT WHATEVER IT IS, IT WILL

BE WORSE THAN NOW.

I THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY

TAUGHT THIS THING IN CHINA

SOME YEARS AGO THAT IF YOU

WERE A CHRISTIAN, YOU WERE

GOING TO BE RAPTURED AND

SPARED FROM ANY

TRIBULATION.

SO HERE THESE CHRISTIANS AND

MAO COMES IN AND THEY BEGIN

KILLING AND MASSACRING THE

CHRISTIANS.

AND SO THE CHRISTIANS SAID,

WELL, GOD MUST HAVE FORSAKEN

ME, SO THEY FELL AWAY FROM

THEIR FAITH BECAUSE OF FALSE

TEACHING.

I DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T

KNOW, NONE OF US KNOW ABOUT

WHEN A, QUOTE,"TRIBULATION"

IS.

BUT JESUS TALKS ABOUT A TIME

THAT IS SO BAD, THAT IF IT

WEREN'T FOR THE END OF THIS,

THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY HUMAN

BEING ALIVE ON THE FACE OF

THE EARTH.

THAT'S WHAT HE TEACHES.

YOU READ IT VERY CAREFULLY.

UNLESS THOSE DAYS WERE

SHORTENED, THERE WILL BE NO

FLESH ALIVE.

SO WE HAVEN'T COME TO A TIME

LIKE THIS.

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN PERIODIC

TRIBULATIONS OF PEOPLE WHO

WERE CHRISTIANS, WHO HAVE

SUFFERED, AND THE QUESTION

IS -- GOD IS STILL ON THE

THRONE.

HE STILL LOVES YOU, AND YOU

HAVE TO BE FAITHFUL IN THE

MIDST OF IT.

THESE ARE THEY THAT HAVE

COME OUT OF THE GREAT

TRIBULATION.

THAT'S IN REVELATION.

THEY HAVE ENDURED AND

THEY'RE NOW IN HEAVEN.

BUT IN TERMS OF WHAT DATE

AND WHEN AND WHAT, I DON'T

KNOW AND I DON'T THINK ANY

OF US DO.

Wendy: THINK ABOUT THE

POOR CHRISTIANS IN NORTH

KOREA AND WHAT THEY'VE GONE

THROUGH, BEING BURNED AND

THE HORRIBLE TORTURE.

I'M SURE THEY FEEL LIKE

THEY'RE IN IT.

DIANE WRITES, "I AM A NEW

CHRISTIAN, AND THERE IS

SOMETHING THAT CONFUSES ME.

MOST CHRISTIANS SAY IT IS

IMPOSSIBLE TO BE PERFECT AND

SINLESS, YET GOD COMMANDS US

IN THE BIBLE TO BE PERFECT,

JUST AS HE IS.

PLEASE EXPLAIN THIS TO ME."

Pat: I THINK THE WORD

IN GREEK IS TIVIOTUS.

GOD IS SAYING BE COMPLETE.

IN YOUR LIFE, BE COMPLETE.

BE FINISHED.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE LIKE

GOD.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE

SINLESS AND PERFECT, BUT HE

IS THE EXAMPLE.

GOD NEVER SINS.

AND HE IS COMPLETE IN

HIMSELF.

AND HE WANTS US, AS HUMAN

BEINGS, TO BE COMPLETE IN

HIM.

THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY YOU

AND I CAN GET TO BE PERFECT,

AND THAT IS IN JESUS

CHRIST.

JESUS CHRIST WAS PERFECT, IS

PERFECT.

AND IN HIM WE ARE PERFECT.

BUT IN OURSELVES, WE ARE

ALWAYS MOVING TOWARDS

COMPLETION.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT GOD

WANTS US TO DO, IS TO BE

MORE AND MORE LIKE HIM.

THAT WE MIGHT GROW INTO THE

STATUE OF CHRIST.

I THINK IT IS CONFUSING, AND

APPRECIATE YOUR QUESTION.

WENDY?

Wendy: SILENT.

AND THAT IS ALL OF OUR

E-MAILS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO ALL OF

YOUR QUESTIONS.

STILL AHEAD, A SNORKELOR IN

A BATTLE WITH JAWS.

I FELT A TREMENDOUS BLAST

TO MY CALF.

IT WAS LIKE AN ELECTRICAL

CHARGE, ALMOST, TO MY LEG.

WHEN I LOOKED BACK, I SAW

THE SHARK SORT OF SHAKE AS

IT WAS PULLING A PIECE OF MY

LEG OFF.

Wendy: OH, GOSH.

WATCH HOW THIS MAN'S FAMILY

RESPONDS WITH PRAYER, NOT

PANIC, AS THEY HELP IN THE

FIGHT FOR HIS LIFE.

WELCOME BACK TO

WASHINGTON FOR THIS CBN

NEWSBREAK.

ARVELLA SCHULER HAS DIED AT

THE AGE OF 84.

HER DAUGHTER, CAROL, SAYS HE

UNEXPECTANTLY PASSED AWAY

PEACEFULLY TUESDAY.

SHE IS SURVIVED BY HER

HUSBAND, WHO LAUNCHED THEIR

MINISTRY IN AN ORANGE COUNTY

THEATRE IN 1955.

TOGETHER THEY FOUNDED THE

CRYSTAL CATHEDRAL AND THE

WEEKLY "HOUR OF POWER"

BROADCAST WHICH SHE PRODUCED

AND DIRECTED.

PROSECUTORS SAY TWO TEENAGED

BOYS WERE MAKING A DEAL WITH

A DEVIL WHEN THEY SEXUALLY

ASSAULTED AND KILLED A

15-YEAR-OLD HOUSTON GIRL.

HARRIS COUNTY PROSECUTOR

JOHN JORDAN SAYS SIGNS OF

THE OCCULT WERE FOUND IN THE

APARTMENT, AND AN UP SIDE

DOWN CRUCIFIX WAS CARVED

INTO THE GIRL'S STOMACH.

EACH BOY IS CHARGED WITH

CAPITAL MURDER.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

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PAT AND WENDY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

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Pat: YOU KNOW, AL CAPP

HAD A GUY IN THE COMIC

STRIP, AND HE HAD THIS BLACK

CLOUD OVER HIM.

AND EVERYWHERE HE WENT,

SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO

HIM.

ERIC IS JUST LIKE THAT.

HE HAS BEEN STRUCK BY

LIGHTNING, BITTEN BY A

RATTLE SNAKE.

THE U.K. DAILY MAIL CALLED

HIM, QUOTE,"THE WORLD'S

UNLUCKIEST MAN."

AND THEN HE GOT INTO THE

WATER ON A VACATION, HE WENT

SNORKLING, AND HE WAS

ATTACKED BY A SHARK.

THE WATER IS MY LIFE.

I'M ALWAYS ON THE WATER, AT

LEAST 50% OF MY LIFE.

I KNEW SOMETHING WAS

WRONG BECAUSE I THOUGHT I

HAD HEARD HIM SAY SHARK.

WE WERE IN THE BAHAMAS ON

VACATION, AND WE WENT OUT

SNORKLING IN THE MORNING.

AND WE WENT TO A LITTLE COVE

THAT WAS ABOUT FIVE FEET

DEEP.

EVERYBODY WAS SORT OF

DOING THEIR OWN THING.

AND I DECIDED TO GO INTO THE

WATER WITH MY SPEAR.

I SPEARED A GRUPER AND WAS

HEADING BACK TO THE BOAT,

BUT I HAD GOTTEN OVER THE

SAND BAR AND I WAS IN REALLY

SHALLOW WATER.

SO I THOUGHT I'M HOME FREE

AND I NEVER SAW IT COMING.

THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, I

FELT THIS TREMENDOUS BLAST

TO MY CALF.

IT WAS LIKE AN ELECTRICAL

CHARGE, ALMOST, TO MY LEG.

YOU COULD LITERALLY HEAR THE

RIPPING SOUND UNDER WATER OF

YOUR FLESH BEING RIPPED.

WHEN I LOOKED BACK, I SAW

THE SHARK SORT OF SHAKE AS

IT WAS PULLING A PIECE OF MY

LEG OFF AND SWIMMING AWAY.

I REMEMBER INITIALLY

SCREAMING.

I COULDN'T TELL IF HE HAD

A LEG OR DIDN'T.

I COULD JUST SEE RED AND

BLOOD AND HIM PULLING ON

ROCKS.

I FELT LIKE THE SWITCH

TURNED OFF AND GOD JUST GAVE

ME A TREMENDOUS CLARITY.

AFTER I HAD TIED THE

TOURNIQUET ABOUT MY KNEE, I

JUST THREW THE SPEAR IN THE

FISH, IN HOPES THAT HE

WOULDN'T COME BACK AT ME.

THERE WAS A 10 TO 12-FOOT

RADIUS OF SOLID CRIMSON

AROUND ME.

I WAS JUST IN A POOL,

LITERALLY, OF BLOOD.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MY

FATHER-IN-LAW STOOD BETWEEN

ME AND THE SHARK WHILE I GOT

INTO THE BOAT.

I SLUNG MY LEG UP ON THE

BAIT WELL AND TIED ANOTHER

TOURNIQUET ON.

AND MY MOTHER-IN-LAW STARTED

WRAPPING MY LEG WITH

TOWELS.

I DIDN'T THINK HE WAS

GOING TO LIVE.

AND MY BODY KIND OF WENT

INTO SHOCK.

I COULDN'T BREATHE AND I

COULDN'T MOVE.

I JUST WENT AND SORT OF PUT

MY HEAD ON HIS CHEST AND

KEPT TELLING HIM, YOU'RE

GOING TO BE OKAY, HONEY.

THE LORD IS WITH YOU.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE

OKAY.

I WANTED THE GIRLS TO NOT

SEE ANYTHING, AS MUCH AS I

COULD PROTECT THEM FROM

SEEING HIM.

I HAD GONE TO THE THREE

YOUNGER GIRLS ON THE BOAT

AND SAID, I WANT YOU GUYS TO

LOOK OUT AT THE WATER, AND I

NEED YOU TO JUST START

PRAYING.

I TOLD HIM, GOD IS ALREADY

HOLDING ON TO DADDY, AND HE

WILL KEEP HOLDING HIM, BUT

YOU HAVE TO PRAY.

KAYLA WENT AND GRABBED

ERIC'S PHONE, SO SHE HAD ALL

OF HIS CONTACTS, AND SHE

CALLED SOME OF HIS CLOSEST

FRIENDS RIGHT AWAY.

AND SAID, MY DAD HAS BEEN

ATTACKED BY A SHARK.

AND SHE SAID, I NEED PEOPLE

TO PRAY.

AND SO THEN PRAYER CHAINS

STARTED GOING OUT.

MY DAUGHTER HAD CALLED

OUT ON THE RADIO AND WE WERE

PICKED UP BY ANOTHER BOAT

THAT WAS CLOSE BY THAT HAD A

NEONATAL TRAUMA DOCTOR

ABOARD.

SHE WAS SAYING, ERIC, YOU

LOST A LOT OF BLOOD.

I NEED YOU TO BE STILL.

HE WAS ARCHG HI ARCHING HIS

BACK.

I REMEMBER THINKING, THIS

IS HOW I'M GOING TO DIE.

I STARTED PRAISING GOD.

HE STARTED SAYING, THANK

YOU, GOD, AND THEN IT GOD

LOUDER.

AND SO HE WAS SAYING, THANK

YOU, LORD, THANK YOU, LORD.

AND THEN HE JUST KIND OF

WENT SILENT.

AND I FELT A LITTLE SCARED

AND UNSURE OF WHAT WAS

HAPPENING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I

STARTED DOING THAT.

HE JUST GAVE ME A TOTAL

PEACE RIGHT THEN.

IT WAS INCREDIBLE.

AND IN THE TRAUMA CENTER IN

THE BAHAMAS, I REMEMBER

BEING IN THE ROOM AND AT

TIMES BEING IN EXTREME

PAIN.

I REMEMBER BITS AND PIECES

OF THE DOCTOR AND THE JET

FLYING IN FROM TRINITY AIR

AND PICKING ME UP AND FLYING

ME INTO MIAMI.

SOME OF THAT BEGAN TO GET A

LITTLE FOGGY BECAUSE THEY

HAD GIVEN ME SOME PERCOCET.

I WAS TOLD BY THE DOCTOR

ON THE JET THAT HE FELT HIS

FOOT AND POSSIBLY LEG WAS

COMPROMISED AT THAT POINT.

THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO

TAKE HIM BACK IN SURGERY IN

MIAMI, AND CAME OUT AND SAID

A LOT OF OTHER TRAUMAS HAD

HAPPENED AND THEY COULDN'T

GET HIM BACK, BUT THAT HE

WAS GOING TO KEEP THE LEG.

SO I KNEW IF THEY PUSHED HIM

BACK, THAT HE WAS GOING TO

BE ALL RIGHT.

BUT I WAS DEFINITELY

CONFIDENT AT THAT POINT IN

TIME I WAS GOING TO LIVE.

BECAUSE IF THEY PUT YOU ON

HOLD, YOU'RE NOT SHOWING

SIGNS OF EMINENT DEATH IN

THE NEAR FUTURE.

I HAD SOME GREAT SURGEONS

THAT TOOK CARE OF ME.

THEY WERE SAYING SIX MONTHS

BEFORE I WOULD BE RUNNING

AND BACK TO SORT OF NORMAL

AGAIN, MINIMUM.

AND I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN

THE POWER OF PRAYER.

AND WHAT PRAYER CAN DO.

MAYBE 65 OR 70 DAYS FROM THE

TIME I WAS BITTEN, AND I CAN

RUN, AND I CAN JUMP ON ONE

FOOT.

I'M 100% BACK TO FEELING

GOOD.

GOD TAUGHT US SO MUCH

ABOUT HIM BEING FAITHFUL

THROUGH EVERY STEP OF THE

SHARK ATTACK.

AND EVERY PROVISION THAT HE

HAD IN PLACE.

YOU MAY EXPERIENCE SOME

TRIALS, BUT CHRISTIAN LIFE

IS NOT A WALK THROUGH

DAISIES AND LILIES WITH

SKITTLES FALLING FROM THE

SKY AND EVERYTHING IS

RAINBOWS.

THE SCRIPTURE THAT CAME TO

ME WAS THAT ALL THINGS WORK

TOGETHER FOR GOOD TO THOSE

WHO LOVE GOD AND WHO ARE

CALLED ACCORDING TO HIS

PURPOSES, AND HE IS WHO HE

SAYS HE IS, THAT THE LORD IS

GOD, AND THAT HE IS

SOVEREIGN, AND HE IS IN

CHARGE AND HE IS IN CONTROL,

AND HE DO HAVE YOU AND CAN

TAKE CARE OF YOU.

I'VE LEARNED THAT GOD IS

FAITHFUL REGARDLESS OF THE

OUTCOME.

AND I'VE LEARNED TO TRUST

HIM.

BEING SCARED, IT MAKES ME

NOT WANT TO TAKE ANYTHING

FOR GRANTED.

IT MAKES ME THANKFUL FOR THE

GIFT THAT THE LORD HAS GIVEN

ME IN HIM.

Pat: THE LORD IS GOD

AND HE IS SOVEREIGN.

I LOVE IT.

I LOVE IT.

WHAT A MIRACLE.

ALL RIGHT, YOU WANT SOME --

HERE IS SOME MORE.

THIS IS CASEY, WHO LIVES IN

KAYCEE, WYOMING, AND HAD A

SON WHO WAS BORN WITH

DIGESTIVE ISSUES.

OVER 75% OF HIS STOMACH WAS

COVERED BY A MASS.

WELL, THE FAMILY BEGAN AN

EXTENSIVE PRAYER.

AND THE DOCTOR ENTERED THE

ROOM TO DELIVER THE M.R.I.

RESULTS AND SAID, I DON'T

UNDERSTAND IT.

THEY DON'T SHOW ANYTHING

HERE AT ALL.

THE NEXT DAY THE BABY WAS --

WELL, HE WAS FEEDING AND

EVERYTHING WAS JUST GREAT.

Wendy: I'VE GOT ONE

HERE, GORDON OF BUNN, NORTH

CAROLINA, DEVELOPED TERRIBLE

ANXIETY ABOUT THE FUTURE AND

AN ABNORMAL DREAD OF DEATH.

FEAR TOOK OVER EVERY AREA OF

HIS LIFE.

HE CRIED OUT TO GOD FOR

DELIVERANCE, AND YET THE

FEAR REMAINED.

AND ONE DAY HE WAS WATCHING

"THE 700 CLUB," AND HE HEARD

GORDON GIVE A WORD OF

KNOWLEDGE.

THERE IS A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT

OF FEAR, AND WE CAST OUT

FEAR IN JESUS' NAME.

HIS FEAR WAS GONE, AND

GORDON HAS BEEN FREE FROM

THE SPIRIT OF FEAR SINCE

THAT DAY.

Pat: THE SPIRIT OF FEAR

IS REAL.

IT REALLY IS A DEMONIC

PRESENCE.

YOU DON'T FEEL ANYTHING IS

RIGHT, AND EVERYTHING IS

GOING WRONG FOR YOU.

AND THE LORD JUST TOOK THAT

AWAY.

WE'RE GOING TO JOIN HANDS

AND WE'RE GOING TO PRAY IN

THESE FEW MOMENTS LEFT IN

THIS PROGRAM.

FATHER, THERE ARE PEOPLE IN

THIS AUDIENCE WHO ARE

SUFFERING.

THEY MAY NOT HAVE HAD SHARK

BITES, BUT THEY'VE HAD

INJURIES, THEY'VE HAD

TRAUMA, THEY'VE HAD FEAR AND

CONFUSION, AND THEY'RE

CRYING OUT TO YOU RIGHT NOW

FOR THE ANSWER.

AND WE PRAY WITH THEM, LORD,

IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

THERE IS SOMEBODY THAT HAS

TWISTED INTESTINES, AND

THERE MAY BE A DANGER OF

GANGRENE.

RIGHT NOW PUT YOUR HAND ON

YOUR STOMACH AREA.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS,

TOUCH!

Wendy: THERE ARE PEOPLE

CRYING OUT.

THEY SAW THE DIABETES

STORY.

THEY SAY, I WANT TO GET OFF

SUGAR, I FEEL HELPLESS TO

GET OFF SUGAR.

THE LORD IS GIVING YOU

STRENGTH TO OBEY AND DO WHAT

YOU KNOW YOU NEED TO DO SO

YOU CAN LIVE.

Pat: SOMEBODY, YOUR

WHOLE SHOULDERS, YOUR CHEST

AREA, HAS HAD SOME TERRIBLE

TRAUMA.

SOMETHING HAS HIT YOU OR

YOU'VE FALLEN AND HIT

SOMETHING.

AND THIS THING IS IN GREAT

PAIN RIGHT NOW.

IN THE NAME OF JESUS, WE

COME AGAINST THAT TRAUMA AND

WE SPEAK WORDS OF FAITH.

YOU WILL BE HEALED IN JESUS'

NAME.

THANK YOU, LORD.

AMEN.

AND AMEN.

THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.

WE LEAVE YOU NOW WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE, TAKEN

FROM THE BOOK OF ISAIAH:

"THOSE WHO WAIT ON THE LORD

SHALL RENEW THEIR STRENGTH.

THEY SHALL MOUNT UP WITH

WINGS LIKE EAGLES.

THEY SHALL RUN AND NOT BE

WEARY, AND THEY SHALL WALK

AND NOT FAINT."

FOR WENDY AND ALL OF US,

THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON, AND

WE WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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