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700 Club Interactive: Fighting to be a Free Man - March 6, 2014

Grandson of Charles Manson and MMA fighter Jason Freeman shares how he overcame his fear of failure. Read Transcript


MEET AND UNWILLING MEMBER

OF THE MAN SOSON FAMILY.

I KNEW CHARLIE

MANSON, SR. WAS MY

GRANDFATHER, AND IT WAS TO

BE KEPT QUIET, UNDER A RUG.

HOW HE ESCAPED THE SHADOW

OF A SERIAL KILLER AND

BECAME A FREE MAN ON TODAY'S

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

Gordon: ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," WE USE

TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY FOR EACH

OTHER AND EXPLORE TOPICS

THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

Terry: HI, EVERYBODY,

WELCOME TO OUR PROGRAM.

IN 1971, CHARLES MANSON WAS

FOUND GUILTY OF FIRST-DEGREE

MURDER.

HE SPENT THE LAST 40 PLUS

YEARS IN PRISON AS ONE OF

AMERICA'S MOST NOTORIOUS

SERIAL KILLERS.

BUT EVEN BEHIND BARS,

CHARLES MANSON ROAMS FREE,

HAUNTING THE MEMORIES OF HIS

GRANDSON, JASON.

IN THE RING, JASON

FREEMAN KNEW HE HAD TO BE

FOCUSED AND FEARLESS.

THE ONLY THING THAT COULD

BEAT ME WAS THE OTHER GUY,

AND IT WASN'T GOING TO

HAPPEN.

Reporter: LIKE MOST

FIGHTERS IN THE MIXED

MARTIAL ARTS WORLD, JASON

HAD A NICKNAME.

HIS WAS CHARLIE MANSON THE

THIRD, A NAME HE INHERITED

FROM HIS FATHER.

I KNEW THAT CHARLIE

MANSON, SR. WAS MY

GRANDFATHER.

IT WAS TO BE KEPT QUIET,

UNDER A RUG.

Reporter: HIS PARENTS

NEVER MARRIED.

JASON LIVED WITH HIS MOTHER

AND STEPFATHER, WHO RAISED

HIM.

HIS BIOLOGICAL FATHER KEPT

HIS DISTANCE.

AS THE SON OF A NOTORIOUS

KILLER, HE WAS FIGHTING HIS

OWN BATTLES WITH DEPRESSION

AND DRUG ADDICTION.

EARLIEST MEMORIES WERE

MAINLY PHONE CONVERSATIONS

AND PICTURES THAT HE SENT

AND CHRISTMAS GIFTS.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE JUST

REALIZED THAT I WAS FINE, I

WAS TAKEN CARE OF, THAT HE

DIDN'T THINK HE NEEDED TO BE

THERE.

ONE NIGHT JASON'S FATHER

CHECKED OUT ON HIM FOR

GOOD.

HE KILLED HIMSELF WHEN JASON

WAS A FRESHMAN IN HIGH

SCHOOL.

DESPITE THEIR SPLINTERED

RELATIONSHIP, JASON TOOK HIS

FATHER'S DEATH VERY HARD.

I BLAME MY FATHER'S

SUICIDE ON MY GRANDFATHER.

Reporter: JASON POURED

THOSE EMOTIONS INTO HIGH

SCHOOL FOOTBALL AND

WRESTLING.

I KNEW THAT MY ANGER

NEEDED TO BE DIRECTED IN A

POSITIVE MANNER.

Reporter: STILL,

JASON'S TIES TO THE MANSON

FAMILY NAME HAUNTED HIM, AND

HE SWORE TO BREAK THE CYCLE

OF VIOLENCE AND DRUGS.

BUT HIS HAIR-TRIGGER TEMPER

WAS WORKING AGAINST HIM.

PEOPLE KNEW I WOULD

FIGHT.

WHEN I WAS PROVOKED, I KNEW

I COULD HURT SOMEBODY, AND I

DIDN'T WANT TO HURT NOBODY.

Reporter: AS AN ADULT,

HE FOUND ANOTHER WAY TO

DISTRIBUTE HIS ANGER,

THROUGH MIXED MARTIAL ARTS.

BUT TO MAKE MONEY, HE

STARTED SELLING DRUGS, AND

SOON STARTED USING THEM,

TOO.

JASON FELT THE CONSEQUENCES

OF HIS ACTIONS.

WHEN YOU'RE ON DRUGS, IT

MAKES YOUR FAMILY NOT WANT

TO BE AROUND YOU OR NOT LIKE

YOU.

YOU DON'T FIT IN.

YOU GET MIXED UP IN WHATEVER

DRUG IT IS TO HIDE YOURSELF

FROM REALITY.

YOU'RE IN A BOX AND YOU DONT

KNOW HO DON'T KNOW HOW TO

GET OUT.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

JASON WAS ARRESTED AND

CONVICTED FOR DRUG

TRAFFICKING.

HIS WORST FEAR HAD COME

TRUE.

I JUST -- I DON'T WANT TO

FAIL.

I SEE IT ALL AROUND ME, ALL

MY LIFE.

Reporter: HE ASKED GOD

FOR HELP.

I LAID IN BED, PROBABLY

FOR HOURS, JUST CRYING AND

JUST ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS

AND HELP.

HELP TO UNDERSTAND.

GIVE ME SOME WISDOM TO

REALIZE THE PATH I'M ON

ISN'T THE RIGHT PATH.

Reporter: HE FOUND

HIMSELF A BIBLE BUT WASN'T

SURE WHERE TO BEGIN.

HE MET SOMEONE WHO HELPED.

THERE WAS A ORDAINED

MINISTER IN THERE FOR

RELAPSING BACK FROM CRACK

COCAINE.

I STARTED ASKING QUESTIONS,

AND I SAID, I DON'T KNOW

WHERE TO START IN THIS LONG

BOOK, IN THIS BIBLE.

AND HE SAID, WELL, JUST READ

JOHN.

EVERYBODY STARTS WITH JOHN.

HE PRAYED OVER ME.

I ACCEPTED JESUS IN MY

HEART.

AT THAT POINT I WANTED TO

WALK A DIFFERENT PATH.

Reporter: HE TOOK THE

FIRST STEP.

I WENT STRAIGHT TO THE

BIBLE AND I READ EVERY DAY.

I STAYED FOCUSED ON MYSELF.

AND I STAYED FOCUSED ON

UNDERSTANDING WHY I'M IN

HERE.

Reporter: JASON SERVED

HIS TIME.

HE ALSO MET AND MARRIED

AUDREY.

HE SAYS ON HIS JOURNEY OF

FAITH, SHE HELPED HIM EVERY

STEP OF THE WAY.

I DIDN'T KNOW FOR THE

LONGEST TIME WHICH WAY WAS

UP OR DOWN.

AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY WHEN

I MET MY WIFE, AUDREY, IT

HAS BEEN A ROUGH ROAD, BUT

SHE MADE ME WHO I AM TODAY.

Reporter: IN 2011, HE

DECIDED TO STEP OUT OF THE

RING FOR GOOD.

JASON REMEMBERS HIS

CONVERSATION WITH GOD ON THE

NIGHT OF HIS LAST FIGHT.

I WAS ASKING HIM WHY AM I

OUT HERE?

AND HE SAID, I BUILT A STAGE

UP UNDERNEATH OF YOU TO

SPEAK OFF OF AND REACH

OTHERS.

Reporter: NOW HE TALKS

TO KIDS ABOUT HOW TO AVOID

THE MISTAKES HE MADE.

HE SAYS WITH GOD'S HELP, HE

HAS BEEN OFF THE DRUGS AND

HIS ANGER IS IN CHECK.

HE AND AUDREY ARE RAISING

THREE BOYS.

AND WORKING ON LEAVING A

LEGACY FOUNDED ON FAITH IN

GOD.

I'VE GOT MY WHOLE

FAMILY.

I LOVE IT.

Reporter: THE KID WITH

THE NOTORIOUS FAMILY TIES

HAS FOUND HIS PURPOSE

THROUGH HIS FAITH IN JESUS

CHRIST.

ONCE PEOPLE GET TO KNOW

ME FOR ME AND NOT THE NAME,

I CARRY MY OWN WEIGHT, YOU

KNOW.

I FEEL GOD MOVES THROUGH ME,

LIKE HE MOVES THROUGH A LOT

OF PEOPLE.

AND IF THAT NAME SOMEHOW

ATTRACTS ATTENTION OVER TO

MY CORNER, THEN I'VE GOT

SOMETHING POSITIVE TO SPEAK

ABOUT.

TERRY, I THINK JASON'S

STORY IS VERY POWERFUL.

THE FACT HE LITERALLY CHOSE

A PROFESSION IN WHICH HE IS

CAGED IN.

IT IS CERTAINLY SYMBOLIC OF

HIS EMOTIONS IN WHICH HE WAS

CAGED BY WHAT HIS FAMILY

LEGACY WAS.

AND HE WINDS UP IN A CAGE

FOR A PROFESSION.

Terry: YEAH.

UNBELIEVABLE.

BUT WHAT I LOVE ABOUT HIM

AND WHAT GIVES SUCH HOPE IN

HIS STORY IS THAT SOMETHING

ROSE UP IN HIM.

IN HIS DESPERATION, WHEN HE

CAME TO THE END OF HIMSELF,

AND HE CRIED OUT TO THE

LORD, SOMETHING ROSE UP IN

HIM THAT SAID, I WILL NOT BE

DEFINED, NOT JUST BY MY

GRANDFATHER OR MY FATHER,

BUOR BY LIFE, BUT I WANT TO

BE DEFINED BY THE ONE WHO

SAVED ME.

THERE IS A SPECIAL

TENDERNESS IN JASON AND HE

HAS THREE CHILDREN.

TERRY, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN

MY 3-YEAR-OLD TIME WAS

GETTING READY FOR HALLOWEEN

FOR ABOUT A MONTH BEFORE.

AND HE PICKED OUT THIS BUZZ

LIGHT-YEAR COSTUME.

AND HE COULDN'T WAIT TO WEAR

THAT COSTUME.

WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED

ON THE DAY HE WAS SUPPOSED

TO WEAR IT?

NO INTEREST.

HE FREAKED OUT.

IT WAS TIME TO GET READY AND

PUT THE COSTUME ON --

Terry: WHY?

I GUESS BECAUSE HE WAS A

3-YEAR-OLD, AND HE DIDN'T

GET ENOUGH SLEEP.

SLEEP.

AND I SAID, ANDY, IT IS TIME

TO PUT ON THE BUZZ

LIGHT-YEAR COSTUME.

AND HE SCREAMED AND KICKED.

I TRIED TO FORCE IT, AND

THAT RARELY WORKS.

I HAD AN IDEA.

I PUT HIM ON MY SHOULDER AND

TOOK HIM UPSTAIRS AND I HAD

A STRATEGY.

I TOOK HIM UP TO MY BATHROOM

AND GOT HIM INTO THE BUZZ

LIGHT-YEAR COSTUME, AND

TURNED HIM AROUND IN FRONT

OF THE MIRROR, AND HIS

COUNTENANCE CHANGED.

THE TEARS STOPPED, THE

YELLING STOPPED.

AND HE SAID, "DADDY, WOW,

LOOK AT ME."

I WANTED HIM TO SEE HIMSELF

THE WAY I SAW HIM.

AND I THOUGHT, ONCE HE SEES

HIMSELF THE WAY I SEE HIM,

THEY'LL BE A CHANGE.

Terry: HE'LL CHOOSE.

HE'LL CHOOSE.

AND THAT LED ME TO EPHESIANS

2: 10: "FOR WE ARE GOD'S

MASTERPIECE.

HE HAS CREATED US ANEW IN

CHRIST JESUS SO WE CAN DO

THE GOOD THINGS HE PLANNED

FOR US LONG AGO."

WE CAN'T LET OUR FAMILY

HISTORY OR LEGACY OR THE

SHAME DEFINE WHO WE ARE.

GOD SAYS, IN THE HOLY WORD

OF GOD, IT SAYS WE ARE HIS

MASTERPIECE.

AND PART OF THIS

UNDERSTANDING MEANS WE HAVE

TO KNOW WHO GOD IS.

THIS GOD THAT WE HEAR SO

MUCH ABOUT, AND THE LOVE OF

JESUS.

VERSE 8 SAYS: "THE LORD IS

COMPASSIONATE AND GRACIOUS,

SLOW TO ANGER, ABOUNDING IN

LOVE."

JASON SAID AT ONE POINT IN

HIS STORY, HE DIDN'T KNOW

WHERE TO GO.

HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO

READ.

WHAT IS THE FIRST STEP?

THE FIRST STEP IS

UNDERSTANDING THAT GOD IS

GRACIOUS AND COMPASSIONATE

AND SLOW TO BECOME ANGRY,

AND ABOUNDING IN LOVE.

HOW DO WE KNOW THIS?

WE DO KNOW THAT JESUS WAS

OFTEN CRITICIZED FOR HANGING

OUT WITH SINNERS.

HE EARNED THIS REPUTATION,

THE REPUTATION OF SPENDING

TIME WITH THE PEOPLE WHO

WERE REJECTED AND THAT NO

ONE ELSE THOUGHT WAS GOOD

ENOUGH.

AND HE WAS CRITICIZED FOR

IT.

IN FACT, WE READ IN MARK 2:

"WHEN THE TEACHERS OF THE

LAW, WHO WERE PHARISEES, SAW

HIM EATING WITH THE SINNERS

AND TAX COLLECTORS, THEY

ASKED HIS DISCIPLES, WHY

DOES HE EAT WITH TAX

COLLECTORS AND

SINGER-SONGWRITER.

SINNERS.

JESUS SAID TO THEM, IT IS

NOT THE HEALTHY WHO NEED A

DOCTOR, BUT THE SICK.

I HAVE NOT COME TO CALL THE

RIGHTEOUS, BUT SINNERS."

TERRY, I THINK WE NEED TO

GET TO A POINT WHERE WE

REALIZE WE DON'T HAVE TO FIX

OURSELVES UP BEFORE WE

APPROACH JESUS.

WE GO TO JESUS AND THEN HE

MAKES US CLEAN AND HE MAKES

US A NEW CREATION.

Terry: AND HE TAKES THE

SHAME AND THE REMORSE AND

THE PAIN OF IT ALL.

AND MAKES SOMETHING GOOD OUT

OF IT.

EVEN IN HIS STORY, WHEN HE

TALKS ABOUT THE GUY IN

PRISON, THE PASTOR WHO WAS

IN THERE BECAUSE HE MADE A

MISTAKE IN HIS LIFE.

AND YET HERE GOD HAS HIM IN

THIS PLACE, USING HIM IN THE

MIDST OF WHERE HE WAS BEING

DISCIPLINED.

AND PEOPLE WOULD WATCH

JASON IN THE RING AND THINK,

HERE IS A VICIOUS, MEAN

GRANDSON OF CHARLES MANSON,

BUT WE DON'T KNOW THE PAIN

THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE DEEP

DOWN.

AND I THINK JASON'S STORY

REMINDS US OF THAT.

Terry: ISN'T THAT

TRUE.

COMING UP, A TEENAGER WHO

WON'T LET HER BROKEN PAST

AFFECT HER FUTURE.

FIND OUT WHY AFTER THIS.

Terry: GROWING UP AS AN

ORPHAN IN THE UKRAINE, CLARA

THOUGHT SHE HAD NO FUTURE.

BUT NOW SHE HAS A NEW MOM

AND SO MUCH MORE, THANKS FOR

"ORPHANS' PROMISE."

Reporter: 18 YEARS OLD

CLARA IS HAPPY AND

SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE WHO

CARE ABOUT HER.

WHEN SHE WAS LITTLE, SHE

NEVER THOUGHT HER LIFE COULD

BE LIKE THIS.

THAT'S BECAUSE CLARA GREW UP

AN ORPHAN.

NOBODY LOVED US IN THE

ORPHANAGE.

THEY ONLY LOVED THE MONEY

THEY MADE.

Reporter: CLARA'S MOM

ABANDONED HER AT THE

ORPHANAGE WHEN SHE WAS

BORN.

OTHER KIDS MOCKED AND BEAT

HER UP BECAUSE SHE WAS AN

ORPHAN.

ALL I WANTED WAS TO GROW

UP SO NO ONE WOULD BEAT ME.

Reporter: AS SHE GOT

OLDER, CLARA WONDERED HOW

SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE ON

HER OWN.

NO ONE HAD TAUGHT HER SIMPLE

THINGS, LIKE HOW TO COOK,

HANDLE MONEY, OR GET A JOB.

THEN "ORPHANS' PROMISE" SET

UP A TRAINING CENTER IN HER

TOWN.

THERE SHE LEARNED BASIC LIFE

SKILLS, TOOK COMPUTER

COURSES, AND HEARD ABOUT

GOD.

THEY TOLD ME THAT GOD

LOVED ME AND WAS ALWAYS

BESIDE ME.

I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING LIKE

THAT BEFORE.

Reporter: ONE DAY A NEW

TEACHER, NAMED NATASHA, CAME

TO WORK FOR "ORPHANS' PROMISE."

WE BRIEFLY BECAME VERY

CLOSE, AND THEN CLARA

STARTED CALLING ME MOM.

IT SURPRISED ME AT FIRST.

AND THEN I THOUGHT, I CAN DO

THIS.

I ASKED CLARA IF SHE WANTED

TO BE MY DAUGHTER.

Reporter: NATASHA

ADOPTED CLARA.

BECAUSE OF MY MOM'S LOVE

AND SUPPORT, I HAVE GOD IN

MY HEART.

AND I KNOW SHE AND GOD WILL

NEVER ABANDON ME.

Reporter: TODAY CLARA

AND NATASHA LIVE IN A SIMPLE

HOUSE, RENTED BY "ORPHANS' PROMISE."

IT IS A PLACE WHERE OTHER

ORPHANS CAN COME FOR BIBLE

STUDIES, HOME-COOKED MEALS

OR JUST TO HANG OUT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I PRAY THE LORD WILL BLESS

YOU.

YOU CHANGED OUR LIVES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD

HAVE HAPPENED TO ME WITHOUT

"ORPHANS' PROMISE." THANK

YOU.

Terry: CLARA IS SUCH A

BEAUTIFUL GIRL.

I'VE KNOWN HER FOR A NUMBER

OF YEARS NOW.

WHEN I FIRST MET HER, SHE

WAS SO SHY AND SO SURE THAT

NO ONE REALLY WANTED TO KNOW

HER OR SPEND TIME WITH HER.

SHE HAD TROUBLE JUST LIFTING

HER HEAD TO LOOK YOU IN THE

FACE WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING

TO HER.

TODAY CLARA HAS GRADUATED

FROM BEAUTY SCHOOL.

SHE IS A FULL-FLEDGE

HAIRSTYLIST.

SHE IS GOING WITH US INTO

THE GYPSY CAMPS, AND

TEACHING YOUNG GIRLS HOW TO

CUT HAIR.

SHE HAS HER OWN CAREER.

SHE IS FLOURISHING AND DOING

BEAUTIFULLY, AND SHE HAS

BECOME A GORGEOUS YOUNG

WOMAN, ALL BECAUSE PEOPLE

LIKE YOU CARED ENOUGH TO

ALLOW US TO GO INTO THE

MIDDLE OF HER WORLD AND MAKE

A DIFFERENCE IN HER LIFE, TO

TELL HER THAT NOT ONLY DO WE

CARE ABOUT HER, BUT SHE HAD

A HEAVENLY FATHER WHO WASN'T

EVER GOING TO LEAVE HER.

THAT SHE WASN'T GOING TO BE

FORSAKEN, AND THAT SHE HAD

VALUE AND PURPOSE.

WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR

HELPING US DO THAT.

THAT'S JUST A PART OF WHAT

CBN'S "ORPHANS' PROMISE" IS

DOING IN THE LIVES OF

CHILDREN AROUND THE WORLD.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE A

PART OF THAT, YOU CAN JOIN

US BY GIVING.

YOU CAN DO THAT BY CALLING

1-888-777-1999.

THAT'S A TOLL-FREE LINE.

OR YOU CAN GO TO cbn.com

AND DESIGNATE YOUR GIFT

THERE.

BUT THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR HELPING US

MAKE THAT KIND OF A

DIFFERENCE.

ANDREW?

COMING UP, WE'VE GOT THE

PHENOMENAL STORY OF BILLY

HALL.

IT IS AN AMAZING STORY ABOUT

HOW THE POWER OF GOD CAN

TOUCH SOMEONE'S LIFE.

HE WAS AN INMATE WHO WAS

SENTENCED TO FULSOM PRISON

NINE TIMES.

I'M THINKING, ONE DAY

YOU'RE GOING TO DIE IN HIS

CELL.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST KILL

YOURSELF.

WHY WAIT, YOU'RE GOING TO

DIE ANYWAY.

HEAR HOW THIS PRISONER IS

NOW A FREE MAN, NEXT.

Terry: WHEN THE JUDGE

SENTENCED BILLY HALL TO

PRISON, HE THREW THE BOOK AT

HIM.

HE TOLD BILLY, WE NEVER WANT

TO SEE YOU ON THE STREETS

AGAIN.

BILLY WAS SENT TO FOLSOM

STATE PRISON AND NEVER

EXPECTED TO WALK OUTSIDE ITS

WALLS AGAIN.

BUT ONE NIGHT, INSIDE A CELL

ON BLOCK 4A, BILLY BECAME A

FREE MAN.

I WAS DEAD.

I WAS DEAD.

I WAS FINISHED.

MY LIFE WAS AT AN END.

AND THERE WASN'T HOPE FOR

ME.

Reporter: BILLY HALL

SURVIVED THREE TOURS OF DUTY

IN VIETNAM, BUT HIS DARKEST

MOMENTS WERE YET TO COME,

ALONE, BEHIND BARS IN FOLSOM

PRISON.

I WAS JUST A DEAD MAN

WALKING.

I WAS JUST A GUY WAITING TO

DIE.

Reporter: HIS TROUBLE

STARTED SHORTLY AFTER HE

LEFT THE MARINES.

BILLY COULDN'T FIND WORK TO

SUPPORT HIS YOUNG FAMILY.

I HAD TO BE THE

ALL-AMERICAN DAD, THE

PERFECT DAD, BECAUSE I'M A

MARINE.

I WAS SO DESPERATE, YOU

KNOW, I WOULD RUN OUT OF

MONEY -- WE DIDN'T HAVE THE

MONEY ANYMORE, NO CAR.

IT WAS JUST A REAL DIFFICULT

TIME FOR OUR FAMILY.

Reporter: IN

DESPERATION, HE STARTED

PLANNING AND COMMITTING

ARMED ROBBERIES.

I JUSTIFIED IT BY SAYING

THIS IS A MISSION.

THIS IS MY IN-TELL, THIS IS

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND

THIS IS HOW WE'RE GOING TO

DO IT.

AND HOLDING PEOPLE HOSTAGE,

TYING THEM UP, TAKING THEM

IN A BACK ROOM AND THEN

GOING INTO THE SAFE AND

GETTING THE MONEY OUT OF THE

SAFE, AND IF OTHER PEOPLE

HAD TO BE DEPRIVED OF WHAT

THEY HAD, THAT JUST WAS THE

END THAT JUSTIFIED THE

MEANS.

Reporter: BILLY GOT

AWAY WITH SEVERAL ARMED

ROBBERIES, BUT SECRETLY HE

HOPED HE WOULD GET CAUGHT.

I WOULD FEEL LIKE THIS

RUN-AWAY FREIGHT TRAIN, NO

BRAKES.

AND I'M SPEEDING DOWN THIS

TRACK.

AND I CAN'T QUIT.

WHEN I'M DOING ONE ROBBERY,

I'M THINKING ABOUT THE

FUTURE ROBBERIES.

I'M PLANNING OTHERS, AND I

CAN'T STOP THIS.

MY MIND IS CONSTANTLY

GOING.

I CAN'T SLEEP AT NIGHT.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

BILLY WAS CAUGHT AND

ARRESTED.

DUE TO THE NUMBER OF

ROBBERIES AND VIOLENT NATURE

OF HIS CRIMES, HE WAS

SENTENCED TO NINE

CONSECUTIVE FIVE TO LIFE

TERMS.

THE REALITY OF LIFE BEHIND

BARS SANK IN AS HE ENTERED

FOLSOM PRISON.

THAT OPPRESSION, THAT

SENSE OF CONTROL, THAT LACK

OF IDENTITY, YOU DON'T HAVE

A NAME ANYMORE.

YOU'RE A NUMBER.

B63964, THAT WAS MY NAME.

AND YOU'RE A PROPERTY OF THE

STATE.

AND I'M THINKING, ONE DAY

I'M GOING TO DIE IN THIS

CELL.

IF I DIE AN OLD MAN, I DIE

ALONE, ALONE, NOBODY IS

THERE.

THAT WAS THE EMPTIEST TIME

OF MY LIFE.

Reporter: HIS FRIENDS

AND FAMILY ABANDONED HIM.

ALONE WITH HIS THOUGHTS,

BILLY COULD ONLY THINK OF

ONE WAY OUT.

WHY DON'T YOU JUST KILL

YOURSELF?

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?

YOU'RE GOING TO DIE ANY

WAY?

WHY WAIT?

WHY NOT DO IT RIGHT NOW?

AND TO KILL OURSELVES THERE,

WE WOULD GRAB THE BARS AND

BEAT OUR HEADS INTO THE BARS

UNTIL BLOOD JUST HEM RAGED,

ANHEMORRHAGED, AND WE COULD

JUST DIE.

I WAS GETTING READY TO BEAT

MY HEAD INTO THE BARS, AND

THERE WAS ANOTHER VOICE THAT

CAME, AND THAT VOICE WAS, I

LOVE YOU, BILLY.

I REMEMBER THOSE WORDS SO

CLEARLY.

I LOVE YOU, BILLY.

HEI DIDN'T LOVE MYSELF.

PEOPLE DIDN'T LOVE ME.

MY LETTERS THAT I WROTE WERE

RETURNED TO SENDER.

THEY WOULDN'T EVEN OPEN MY

LETTERS.

NOBODY LOVED ME.

GOD, IF YOU'RE FOR REAL, DO

SOMETHING IN MY LIFE.

BECAUSE I'M AFRAID TO DIE.

I WANT PEACE.

JUST GIVE ME PEACE.

I WENT TO SLEEP THAT NIGHT,

AND WHEN I WOKE UP IN THE

MORNING, MAN, I STILL HAD

NINE LIFE SENTENCES.

I WAS STILL IN FOLSOM

PRISON.

I WAS STILL WALKING FIVE

STEPS ONE WAY AND SEVEN

STEPS THE OTHER WAY.

AND YET IT WAS BRAND NEW

INSIDE OF ME.

SOMETHING HAPPENED INSIDE OF

ME.

AND I DISCOVERED THAT IT WAS

GOD COMING INTO ME.

IT WASN'T THE GOD THAT I

KNEW FROM EXPERIENCE OF

OTHER PEOPLE.

NOW I KNOW YOU, LORD.

I KNOW YOU, GOD.

YOU'RE FOR REAL.

YOU'RE HERE IN ME.

HE'S HERE.

HE'S NEW.

HE'S REAL, AND HE'S FRESH.

AND I'M FREE.

I'M FREE.

HE CHANGED ME FROM THE

INSIDE, NOT THE OUTSIDE.

Reporter: TWO YEARS

INTO HIS SENTENCE, HE WAS

CALLED TO THE WARDEN'S

OFFICE.

I WENT TO THE OFFICE AND

SAT DOWN.

AND HE SAYS, B63964, WE'RE

SENDING YOU HOME IN SIX

MONTHS.

AND I COULDN'T EVEN TALK.

MY MOUTH WAS JUST MOVING,

BUT TEARS WERE COMING DOWN

MY FACE.

I WAS STUNNED.

I HADN'T EVEN REACHED THE

FIRST MINIMUM, FIVE YEARS.

WHAT THE WARDEN DID WAS HE

TOOK THAT PAROLE DATE AND HE

SENT IT TO THE GOVERNOR OF

CALIFORNIA AND ASKED THE

GOVERNOR TO APPROVE IT

BECAUSE THE PAROLE BOARD

WOULDN'T APPROVE IT.

THE GATE OPENED, AND I FELT

MYSELF STEPPING OUT OF A

GRAVE INTO LIFE.

AND IT REALLY DOES SMELL

DIFFERENT, THE AIR OUTSIDE

THOSE PRISON WALLS.

Reporter: TO THIS DAY,

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHY THE

WARDEN SECURED HIS RELEASE,

BUT HE BELIEVES IT WAS A

MIRACLE.

ALL OF THE THINGS THE

DEVIL USED AGAINST ME, GOD

USES AGAINST HIM.

HE PUTS HIS HOLY GHOST SPIN

ON ALL OF THAT SHAME AND

REGRET, AND BRINGS A

MINISTRY OUT OF IT.

Reporter: BILLY HAS

SPENT MUCH OF HIS NEW LIFE

AS A MISSIONARY IN ETHIOPIA,

THANKFUL THAT GOD HEARD HIS

PRAYERS BEHIND THE WALLS OF

FOLSOM PRISON.

AND IT HAS BEEN ONE

MIRACLE AFTER ANOTHER

MIRACLE, TAKING ME DOWN THIS

PATH AND FOLLOWING HIM INTO

THE UNKNOWN.

WALKING WITH THE GOD OF

MIRACLES EVERY DAY, HOLDING

HIS HAND.

WALKING UNDER HIS SMILE.

IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER.

Terry: THOUGH YOUR

MOTHER AND FATHER FORSAKE

YOU, THE LORD WILL TAKE YOU

UP.

WHAT A STORY BILLY HAS TO

TELL.

WHAT A STORY OF NOT JUST

REDEMPTION, BUT RESTORATION

AND THEN PURPOSE AND MEANING

AND FULFILLMENT.

IT IS AMAZING.

THIS IS "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," AND WE'VE

RECEIVED YOUR PRAYER

REQUESTS.

WE'D LIKE TO SHARE SOME OF

THEM WITH YOU AS WE ALL PRAY

FOR EACH OTHER.

MELISSA SAYS, "PLEASE PRAY

THAT GOD WOULD FREE ME FROM

JEALOUSY.

MY HUSBAND AND I CANNOT HAVE

CHILDREN, AND I HURT SO MUCH

OVER THIS.

IT REALLY GETS HARD TO BE

AROUND OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE

CHILDREN, AND MY JEALOUSY

SEEMS UNCONTROLLABLE."

ANDREW, YOU'VE GOT ONE AS

WELL.

PATTY SAYS, "I'M A

LONG-TIME DRUG ADDICT, BUT

RECENTLY I WAS RELEASED FROM

REHAB AND I'M TRYING TO STAY

CLEAN.

I HAVE SOME BRAIN DAMAGE

THAT AFFECTS MY COORDINATION

THAT DOCTORS SAY HAS TO DO

WITH THE ABUSE.

WOULD YOU PRAY THAT GOD WILL

TOUCH MY BRAIN AND HEAL

ME."

ALIA ELYSE SAYS, "I HAVE

THREE SISTERS, AND WE WERE

ALL DEEPLY AFFECTED BY OUR

PARENTS' INCARCERATION.

I GOT SAVED, BUT MY FAMILY

NEEDS TO BE SAVED.

THERE IS LOTS OF DIVORCE AND

POVERTY IN MY FAMILY LINE.

PLEASE PRAY THAT GOD WILL

HEAL ALL MY FAMILY AND WE

CAN BEGIN IS NOW LEGACY."

JESS IS JOINING US ON THE

COMPUTER, AND YOU'RE IN OUR

CHATROOM, AND WOULD YOU PRAY

FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

WRITTEN IN AND ASKED?

ABSOLUTELY.

I LOOK TO THE LORD IN PRAYER

AND I BELIEVE HE IS GOING TO

BRING HEALING INTO BODIES

TODAY.

HEAVENLY FATHER, WE JUST

THANK YOU FOR THE NEW

BEGINNING, FOR THE NEW

START.

LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR

FREEDOM FOR MELISSA, FREEDOM

FOR PATTY, AND FREEDOM FOR

ELISE'S FAMILY.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU HEAL

MELISSA HEART, HEAL HER

BODY.

KINGDOM OF GOD, WILL OF GOD

BE DONE.

GOD, WE ASK YOU TO FREE HER

FROM THAT JEALOUSY.

LET HER KNOW YOUR LOVE, THAT

YOU ARE NOT A RESPECTER OF

PERSONS, AND THAT IF IT

MATTERS TO HER, IT MATTERS

TO YOU.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU

TOUCH HER BODY, AND THAT YOU

WOULD BRING HEALING.

FATHER, YOU WOULD BRING HER

THE DESIRES OF HER HEART.

LORD, WE ASK FOR A CREATIVE

MIRACLE FOR PATTY.

LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU HEAL

HER BRAIN.

WE ASK THAT YOUR POWER TOUCH

HER RIGHT NOW, LORD.

WE THANK YOU FOR COMPLETE

FREEDOM IN JESUS' NAME, FROM

ALL ADDICTION.

AND FOR ELISE'S FAMILY, GOD,

WE AGREE WITH HEAVEN'S PLAN

FOR THEIR LIFE.

WE THANK YOU THAT YOUR WORD

SAYS YOU KNOW THE PLANS THAT

YOU HAVE FOR US, PLANS TO

PROSPER US, TO BLESS US, TO

GIVE US A HOPE AND A FUTURE,

AND WE DECLARE THAT OVER ALL

OF THESE IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN.

Terry: THANK YOU SO

MUCH, JESS.

THERE IS A PATTERN THAT RUNS

THROUGH EVERYTHING WE TALKED

ABOUT, EVEN WITH ELISE,

ABOUT A FAMILY WITH HISTORY,

WHERE PEOPLE SAY, I'M

DRAWING A LINE IN THE SAND

WITH YOU TODAY, GOD, AND I

WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED AS

YOURS.

I WANT TO LIVE WITH YOU,

WALK WITH YOU, AND IT

HAPPENS.

GOD IS REAL.

AND WE'RE LEARNING THAT

THE BIBLE IS TRUE, THAT GOD

WILL NEVER LEAVE US NOR

FORSAKE US.

Terry: THAT'S THE

MESSAGE WE HOPE YOU WILL

TAKE AWAY FROM OUR SHOW

TODAY.

I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY OF

YOU OUT THERE THAT HAVE

THINGS IN YOUR LIVES YOU

WOULD LIKE PRAYER FOR YOU.

YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL OUR

NUMBER, 1-888-777-1999.

IT IS THERE ON YOUR SCREEN.

MOST OF ALL WE HOPE YOU WILL

TAKE AWAY THE MESSAGE THAT

HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO ALL OF

US TODAY: "WE HAVE HEARD THE

WORD OF GOD SPOKEN, AND WE

HAVE SEEN LIVES CHANGED BY

HIS AMAZING LOVE AND

TRANSFORMATION.

AND HE IS NO RESPECTER OF

PERSON.

WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR THOSE

YOU HAVE SEEN ON THIS

PROGRAM, HE'LL DO FOR YOU.

GOD BLESS YOU.

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