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The 700 Club - March 13, 2014

Award-winning former NFL coach Tony Dungy and his wife Lauren discuss the challenges of marriage on the backdrop of life in the NFL. Plus, Tony & Rosa's marriage faced many challenges including drug addiction, porn addiction and infidelity. Read Transcript


COMING UP...NFL COACH

TONY DUNGY SHARES HIS GAME

PLAN FOR A SUCCESSFUL

MARRIAGE.

MARRIAGE IS TOUGH, BUT IT

IS DOABLE.

ç HEç AND HIS WIFE OPEN UP

ABOUT THEIR TRIALS.

WHAT HE KNEW BUT HE

WASN'T SHARING WITH ME.

A LITTLE MISUNDERSTANDING

CAN CREATE A LOT OF

PROBLEMS.

OVER 30 YEARS OF

MARRIAGE.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT

SPECIAL.

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,ç TO

TIAT EDITION OF "THE 700

CLUB."

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS

A SENSE OF HUMOR?

I JUST ASK YOU THAT.

WELL, I THINK HE DOES.

LET ME TELL YOU WHAT

HAPPENED.

IN THE UNITED STATES

CAPITAL, HARRY REID, BARBARA

BOXER AND THE DEMOCRATS HAD

AN ALL-NIGHT MARATHON

ADVANCING GLOBAL WARMING.

AND THEY SAID WE HAD TO BE

IN Aç!VEAR OF GLOBAL

WARMING.

AND SO GOD SAYS, HARRY AND

BARBARA, YOU'VE GOT IT ALL

WRONG.

AND HE DROPPED THE

TEMPERATURE 40°, AND SENT SO

MUCH WIND THAT IT KNOCKED

OUT THE LIGHTS IN THE

CAPITAL DOME FOR THE FIRST

TIME IN YEARS.

IT IS STILL COLD.

AND NOW CHICAGO, WE'RE

HEARING, IS THE COLDEST

MAYBE ON RECORD.

AND ONCE AGAIN THEY'RE IN

THE DEEP FREEZE.

AND THE LORD IS SAYING,&,5"UájjPáS, IT ISN'Tç GOING TO

HAPPEN THAT WAY.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S --

ISN'T IT FUN?

GOD HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR.

Terry: DID THEY GET

IT?

Pat: NO, THEY DIDN'T

GET IT.

NO, THEY DIDN'T GET IT!

THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

ANYHOW, IT'S COLD OUT

THERE.

WELL, WE DON'T KNOW QUITE

WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT

AIRPLANE.

PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO

FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO

THAT AIRLINER INç MALAYSIA.

AIRPLANE, AND YET IT WENT

OFF THE RADAR.

WE UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T GET

RADAR ACROSS GREAT STRETCHES

OF OCEAN.

I USED TO FLY, AND I THOUGHT

THOSE TRANSPONDERS WOULD

PICK UP ANYWHERE.

IF THEY CAN PICK UP YOUR CAR

DRIVING ALONG SOME PLACE,

THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO

PICK UP AN AIRPLANE.

Terry:çç I READ SOMEWHERE

THAT THE PILOT CAN ACTUALLY

TURN THAT RADAR OFF.

Pat: WELL, YOU CAN.

BUT NO PILOT IN HIS RIGHT

MIND WOULD TURN OFF A

RADAR.

Terry: UNLESS HE WAS

PRESSURED TO.

Pat: YES.

AND YOU TAKE OFF, AND YOU

SET THE THING, AND THAT'S

YOUR TRANSPONDER, AND YOU'RE

SQUASR'G, BEEP,ç BEEP,

BEEP.

AND THEY PICK YOU UP

IMMEDIATELY.

BUT THEY CAN PICK UP

AIRPLANES FROM SATELLITES.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.

ANYHOW, SOME SAY THE PLANE

MAY HAVE STAYED IN THE AIR

FOR AN EXTRA FOUR HOURS, BUT

THE GOVERNMENT OF MALAYSIA

SAYS THAT'S NOT TRUE.

Terry: INVESTIGATORS

THOUGHT THAT SATELLITE

PHOTOS MIGHT HAVE SPOTTED

SOME DEBRIS FROM THE PLANE,

AND THAT TURNED UP NOTHING

AS WELL.

HEATHER CELLS HAS THEç

STORY.

NOW BELIEVE THAT THE MISSING

MALAYSIAN PLANE MAY HAVE

FLOWN FOR FIVE HOURS, FOUR

MORE THAN THEY FIRST

THOUGHT.

THE "WALL STREET JOURNAL"

REPORTS THAT THE CLUE IS

BASED ON DATA AUTOMATICALLY

TRANSMITTED FROM THE BOEING

ENGINE.

AND THIS RAISES ALL KINDS OF

QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO AND WHY

SOMEONE ON BOARD MAY HAVE

DIVERTED THE PLANE.

AND IT ALSO EXPANDS THE4&-SEARCH AREAç AGAIN.

IF THE PLANE FLEW FOR FOUR

MORE HOURS AFTER LAST MAKING

CONTACT, THAT IS AN EXTRA

2200 NAUTICAL MILES.

BUT MAI MALAYSIA'S ACTING

DEFENSE MINISTER DENIES THAT

IT SHOWS AN EXTRA FOUR HOURS

OF FLIGHT.

THOSE REPORTS ARE

INACCURATE.

THE LAST TRANSMISSIONç

INDICATES THATç EVERYTHING

WAS NORMAL.

Reporter: AUTHORITIES

HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR SIX

DAYS NOW WITH NOTHING TO

SHOW.

TODAY PLANES CHECK OUT AN

AREA WHERE CHINESE SATELLITE

IMAGES SHOW POSSIBLE DEBRIS,

BUT THEY FOUND NOTHING

MALAYSIAN AUTHORITIES ARE

FACING TOUGH QUESTIONS WITH

THE HANDLING OF THEIR

INVESTIGATION.

AT TIMES THEY HAVE ISSUED

CONFLICTING AND CONFUSING

STATEMENTS.

FOR FAMILIES OF THE MISSINGA&Cú

PASSENGERS, THEç WAIT IS

EXCRUCIATING.

IT JUST DISAPPEARED OFF

THE FACE OF THE EARTH.

AND IF WE COULD JUST FIND

SOME WRECKAGE OR SOMETHING

WOULD BE A HELP, PROBABLY.

BUT THERE IS NOTHING.

Reporter: AMERICAN

EXPERTS FROM THE NATIONAL

TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD

AND THE FEDERAL AVIATION

ADMINISTRATION HAVE NOW

JOINED THE INVESTIGATION

AFTER BEING SHUTç OUTç FOR

DAYS.

SO FAR AUTHORITIES HAVE NOT

RULED OUT ANY POSSIBLE

CAUSE.

THAT INCLUDES MECHANICAL

FAILURE, PILOT ERROR,

SABOTAGE, AND TERRORISM.

HEATHER CELLS, CBN NEWS.

Pat: WHICH IS TO SAY WE

DON'T HAVE A CLUE.

AND IT'S JUST A SHAME FOR

THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING.

THE SURVIVING FAMILIES,

THEY'RE INçç ANGUISH ON THIS

THING.

BUT IT IS STRANGE.

WELL, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE,

IT'S GOTTEN COLD.

HERE AT HOME -- IT'S FUNNY,

AGAIN, JUST A DAY AFTER THE

SENATE HELD AN ALL-NIGHT

TALK ON GLOBAL WARMING.

THEY SAID THIS PROVES GLOBAL

WARMING, IT GOT REALLY

COLD.

THEY HAVE ANOTHER SNOWSTORM

THAT HIT MUCH OF THE

COUNTRY.

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY

FROM WASHINGTON.

Reporter: PAT, THEçç

SNOWSTORM HAS BROUGHT HAVOC

ACROSS THE MIDWEST AND

NORTHEAST.

IN OHIO, PILEUP PILEUPS

INVOLVING AT LEAST 50 CARS

KILLED THREE PEOPLE AND

SERIOUSLY INJURED ONE STATE

TROOPER.

HE ACTUALLY GOT PINNED

BETWEEN THE VEHICLES.

Reporter: THE PILEUPS

ON BOTH SIDES OF THEç OHIOç

TURNPIKE CAUSED HOURS OF

DELAYS.

MEANWHILE, TENS OF THOUSANDS

OF HOMES IN ILLINOIS AND

INDIANA LOST POWER.

CHICAGO GOT ABOUT SIX INCHES

OF SNOW, MAKING IT THE THIRD

SNOWIEST WINTER A WEEK

BEFORE SPRING.

SOME PLACES COULD SEE THEIR

HEAVIEST SNOWFALLS THIS

SEASON BEFORE IT DISSIPATES

OVER CANADA.

AND SOME OF THE MAJOR

LANDMARKS HERE INç

WASHINGTMnXb(P(ITOL

HILL, WENT DARK YESTERDAY

AFTER STRONG WINDS

TEMPORARILY KNOCKED OUT

POWER THROUGHOUT THE

REGION.

AND SPEAKING OF BLACKOUTS,

THE UNITED STATES COULD

SUFFER A NATIONWIDE BLACKOUT

IF JUST NINE POWER SUB

STATIONS WERE SABOTAGED ON A

HOT SUMMER DAY.

THAT BLACKOUT COULD LAST

WEEKS, IF NOT MONTHS.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO A

FEDERAL STUDY REPORTED BY

THE WALL STREET.

IT WILL BE TAKEç IS TJr

SEPARATE POWER SYSTEMS TO

KNOCK OUT THE ENTIRE

NETWORK, ACCORDING TO THE

PEOPLE FAM RA FAMILIAR WITH

THE STUDY.

ON MONDAY, WE'LL HAVE A

SPECIAL REPORT ON WHAT COULD

HAPPEN IF TERRORISTS ATTACK

THE AMERICAN POWER GRID.

PAT?

Pat: JOHN, I PICKED UP

ON THIS A FEW WEEKS AGO, AND

I ASKED OUR NEWS DEPARTMENT

TO GET AN INDEPTH STUDY.

AGAIN, HERE ALLç YOUç NEED IS

A 330 OR A .22 RIFLE, AND

THEY COULD KNOCK OUT A WHOLE

POWER STATION.

NOTHING BUT A CHAIN LINK

FENCE SEPARATES THEM FROM

THE PUBLIC.

THE POWER THAT IT WOULD TAKE

TO KNOCK A FEW OF THEM THAT

WOULD KNOCK USç NO TIU STONE

AGE.

WATCH ON MONDAY.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS "THE

700 CLUB" ON THAT INDEPTH

REPORT OF THE FRAGILITY OF

THE POWER GRID.

JOHN?

Reporter: THE

REPUBLICAN-LED HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES HAS PASSED A

BILL THAT WOULD MAKE IT

EASIER FOR CONGRESS TO SUE A

PRESIDENT FOR NOT ENFORCING

FEDERAL LAWS.

CONSERVATIVES AND SOME

LIBERALS HAVE CRITICIZED

PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR SIMPLY

PICKING AND CHOOSING WHICHçç

LAWS HE DECIDES TO SUPPORT.

UNDER THE BILL, THE HOUSE OR

SENATE WOULD HAVE A PASS FOR

ANY PRESIDENT WHO FAILED OUT

A CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY TO

ENFORCE THE LAW.

WHEN PRESIDENT OBAMA WAS AN

ILLINOIS SENATOR, HE WARNED

ABOUT THE GROWING POWER OF

THE PRESIDENCY AND NOW

REPUBLICANS SAY HE IS

ABUSING THAT POWER HIMSELF.

PAT?

Pat: I'M JUST REALLY

APPALLED AT THE ABUSESç OF

THAT MAN.

WHAT DOES HE THINK?

WE DON'T HAVE A DICTATOR.

WE DON'T HAVE AN EMPEROR

HERE IN AMERICA.

WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT OF

BALANCES, CHECKS AND

BALANCES.

THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.

THE PEOPLE'S SENATE.

AND CONGRESS OF THE UNITED

STATES.

AND THEN WE A CHIEF

EXECUTIVE FAITHFUL SWORN TO

UPç HOLD

UPHOLD THE

CONSTITUTION AND THE LAWS OF

THE LAND.

AND THEN WE HAVE A COURT

THAT SOMEHOW ACTS A REFEREE

ALONG THE WAY.

BUT THE POWER IS IN CROWS.

CONGRESS.

BUT YOU WOULD NEVER KNOW IT

WATCHING THIS PRESIDENT.

HE DOES WHAT HE FEELS ISçç

EXPEDIENT.

AND THAT IS DANGEROUS.

AMERICAN PASTOR SAEED

ABEDINI IS BEING DENIED

MEDICAL HELP.

THE AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW

AND JUSTICE REPORTS THAT

OVER A WEEK AGO HE WAS MOVED

FROM HIS JAIL CELL TO A

PRIVATE HOSPITAL FOR

TREATMENT, BUT NOW THAT

TREATMENT HAS STOPPED.

PASTOR SAEED WAS SHACKLED

AND REFUSED MEDICAL CARE,

AND HOSPITAL DOCTORS SAID HE

MUST LEAVE ANDç RETUSí TO

PRISON.

FOR MORE ON THIS STORY AND

HOW YOU CAN JOIN THOSE

CALLING FOR PASTOR SAEED'S

RELEASE, VISIT OUR WEBSITE,

CBNNEWS.COM.

TERRORISTS BACKED BY IRAN

KEPT UP THEIR ROCKET ATTACKS

AGAINST ISRAELI CITIES AFTER

A BARAGE ON SOUTHERN ISRAEL

WEDNESDAY NIGHT FROM GAZA.

BENJAMIN NETANYAHU SAID

ISRAEL WON'Tç TOLERATEç

TERROR.

IF THERE IS NO CALM IN

THE SOUTH, THERE WILL BE NO

CALM.

I CALL UPON THE RESIDENTS OF

THE SOUTH TO FOLLOW THE

INSTRUCTIONS.

Reporter: ISLAMIC JIHAD

FIRED MORE THAN 60 ROCKETS

INSIDE ISRAEL.

FORTUNATELY, NO ONE WAS

HURT.

DAVID CAMERON SAYS HIS

COUNTRY STANDS WITH ISRAEL

ON SECURITY MATTERS.

LET ME BE ABSOLUTELY("TiT(jç ABOUT THESE ATTACKS

FROMGAZA, WE CONDEMN THEM

COMPLETELY.

THEY'RE A REMINDER, AGAIN,

OF THE IMPORTANCE OF

OBTAINING AND SECURING

ISRAEL'S FUTURE AND THE

SECURITY THREATS THAT YOU

FACE.

AND YOU HAVE BRITAIN'S

SUPPORT IN FACING THOSE

SECURITY THEFTS.

Reporter: CAMERON WENT

TO ISRAEL TO PROMOTE THE

ISRAELI-PALESTINIAN PEACE

TALKS SPONSORED BY THE

UNITED STATES.ç

NETANYAHUç SAID THERE CAN

ONLY BE GENUINE PEACE IF

IRANIAN-BACKED TERRORISTS

CAN'T FIRE ROCKETS.

I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE IN THE

NEXT SEGMENT.

Pat: I HAVE AN

EXTRAORDINARY AUTHOR.

WE'RE GOING TO TALK MORE

ABOUT IT WITH CAROLINE

GLICK.

Terry: THERE IS A NEW

PLAN SHE IS GOING TO TALK

ABOUT FOR PEACE IN THE

MIDDLE EAST.

SHE IS A JOURNALISTSç ANDç AN

AUTHOR.

CAROLINE GLICK BLOWS THE

TWO-PLAN STATE OUT OF THE

WATER WITH HER ONE-PLAN

SOLUTION.

SHE'LL TELL US WHY AFTER

THIS.

çççççççç

*

Pat: ROCKETS FROM GAZA

INTO SOUTHERN ISRAEL.

A GREAT SHIPMENT OF

LONG-RANGE MISSILES

INTERCEPTED BY THE ISRAELIS

FROM APPARENTLY SYRIAN

ORIGINS, THROUGH IRAN, INTO

GAZA.ç

THEY DIDN'T$P)Q IT.

BUT TWO OF THE THREE ISRAELI

JEWS SAY WE DON'T TRUST

SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN

KERRY WHEN IT COMES TO THEIR

COUNTRY'S SECURITY IN THE

MIDDLE EAST.

BUT THAT WON'T STOP THE

UNITED STATES FROM PUSHING

ISRAEL FOR A PEACE DEAL,

EVEN IF HISTORY SHOWS THOSE

DEALS DON'T WORK.

OUR REPORTER, JOHN WAGGI,

HAS THAT STORY.

Reporter: SINCE THEç

FAMOUS 1=yf HANDSHAKE ON THE

WHITE HOUSE LAWN, U.S.

DIPLOMATS HAVE PUSHED HARD

FOR A TWO-STATE SOLUTION TO

SOLVE THE CONFLICT BETWEEN

ISRAEL AND THE

PALESTINIANS.

A PALESTINIAN STATE THAT

WILL LIVE SIDE BY SIDE IN

PEACE WITH ISRAEL.

President Obama: WITHIN

THE DEMOGRAPHICS WEST OF THE

JORDAN RIVER, THE ONLY WAY

FOR ISRAEL TO ENDURE AND

THRIVE AS A JEWISH AND

DEMOCRATIC STATE ISç T@RNUGH

THE REALIZATION OF AN

INDEPENDENT AND VIABLE

PALESTINE.

Reporter: BUT MORE THAN

TWO DECADES OF TALKS AND

ISRAEL OFFERS OF TERRITORY

HAVE PRODUCED A PALESTINIAN

UPRISING, SUICIDE BOMBINGS,

AND ROCKET ATTACKS.

WHEN ISRAEL CONCEDES LAND,

THE RESULT IS MORE

VIOLENCE.

DO PALESTINIANS WANT TO LIVE

SIDE BY SIDE WITH A JEWISH

STATE, OR DO THEY WANT TO

SEE ISRAEL GO AWAY?

CRITICS0Se THEç PEACE

PROCESS HAS FAILED.

IN A NEW BOOK "THE ISRAELI

SOLUTION," THE AUTHOR

SUGGESTS ISRAELIS,

AMERICANS, AND PALESTINIANS

WOULD ALL BE BETTER OFF IF

THEY APPLIED THE BIBLICAL

CONCEPTS TO THE WEST BANK.

Pat: CAROLINE GLICK

JOINS US NOW.

SHEúHHSç WRITTEN A BOOK

CALLED "THE ISRAELI

SOLUTION."

CAROLINE, I THINK THIS IS

THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE AND

ARTICULATE DEFENSE OF WHAT

THE ISRAELI POSITION IS THAT

I'VE EVER SEEN.

I CONGRATULATE YOU ON THIS

BOOK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON

YOUR PROGRAM.

Pat: LISTEN.

OKAY.

WHAT IS THIS -- THERE IS

SORT OF A MYOPIA THAT HAS

COMEç UPON AMERIQA AND THE

WEST.

YOU HAVE GONE INTO YOUR BOOK

AND SHOWED THE FEELING OF

THE SO-CALLED PALESTINIANS,

MAHMOUD ABBAS AND OTHERS.

DO THEY REALLY WANT A

STATE?

OR DO THEY REALLY JUST WANT

TO DESTROY ISRAEL?

WHAT IS THEIR PLAN?

I THINK WHAT YOU SEE WHEN

YOU LOOK THROUGH THE HISTORY

OF THE PALESTINIAN NATIONAL

MOVEMENT, BACK TO THE

1920s, WHEN IT WAS FIRST

INVENTED BY ITSç INITIALç

LEADER, WHO BECAME A NAZI,

THAT THE NATIONAL MOVEMENT

WAS NEVER INWARD-LOOKING.

IT WAS NEVER ABOUT BUILDING

UP A NATION.

IT WAS ALWAYS OUTWARD

LOOKING AND ELIMINATING THE

JEWISH NATION.

THAT WAS THE CASE FROM THE

OUTSET, AND, UNFORTUNATELY,

IT IS STILL TODAY.

THAT'S WHY MAHMOUD ABBAS

REFUSES TO RECOGNIZEç

ISRAEL'Sç RIGHT TO EXIST.

Pat: YOU HAVE IN YOUR

BOOK SOMETHING THAT I WASN'T

AWARE OF.

THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

IS ACTUALLY SPENDING LARGE

AMOUNTS OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO

TRAIN ARMIES OF THE

PALESTINIANS, WHO IN TURN

WILL BE FIGHTING ISRAEL?

IS THAT CORRECT?

THERE IS ONE OF THE MAJOR

PROGRAMS THAT THE UNITED

STATES HAS UNDERTAKEN IN

RECENT YEARS HAS BEEN TO

BUILD UPç Aç PALESTINIAN

MILITARY FORCE.

IT STARTED WITH INDIVIDUAL

BATTALIONS, AND SO FAR

THEY'VE TRAINED OVER EIGHT

BATTALIONS IN JORDAN.

AND THEY'RE NOW WORKING TO

TURN IT INTO A

SELF-SUSTAINING MILITARY

ORGANIZATION.

AND THE U.S. MILITARY

COMMANDERS THEMSELVES, WHO

HAVE BEEN TRAINING THESE

PALESTINIANS HAVE

ACKNOWLEDGED THATç THEç

PALESTINIANS THEMSELVES WILL

LIKELY TURN THEIR GUNS ON

ISRAEL IF THEY DON'T FEEL

THEIR DEMANDS OF ISRAEL ARE

SATISFIED.

Pat: THE AMERICAN

TAXPAYERS HAVE NO IDEA OF

THAT.

I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF THAT

BEFORE.

IT CERTAINLY HASN'T BEEN

MADE PUBLIC.

WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW

THESE THINGS ARE DISCUSSED.

THEY'RE PRESENTED TO THE

AMERICAN PUBLIC AS

COUNTER-TERRORIST FORCES

BECAUSE THEY'RE FORCES THAT

ARE LED BY THE P.L.O., AND

THEY'RE INç OPPOSITION TOç

HAMAS, WHICH OVERTHROUGH THE

P.L.O. IN GAZA.

BUT BOTH GAZA AND THE P.L.O.

HAS NOT HAD ANY TROUBLE OVER

THE YEARS IN COLLABORATING

IN JOINT ATTACKS AGAINST

ISRAEL.

AND MORE TO THE POINT, SINCE

THE INCEPTION OF THE

PALESTINIAN AUTHORITY, THE

WEST BANK OF THE JORDAN AND

GAZA, IN THE MID-'90s,

MOST OF THE MAJOR TERRORISTS

COMPAIGNS AGAINST ISRAEL

BY PALESTINIAN SECURITY

FORCES, LIKE THE ONES THAT

THE AMERICANS ARE TRAINING

NOW.

Pat: I'VE MET WITH

YASSER ARAFAT A COUPLE OF

TIMES.

MAHMOUD ABBAS DOESN'T HAVE

THE SAME CHARISMA AS ARAFAT,

BUT ARAFAT WAS A STONE-COLD

KILLER.

HE DIDN'T ACT THAT WAY.

HE WAS ALL SWEET AND TENDER

AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF,

AND Açç KISSY, KISSY BUDDY.

BUT HE WAS TRAINED AS AN

AGENT OF THE MUSLIM

BROTHERHOOD.

WHAT ABOUT THIS WHOLE IDEA

OF HAMAS?

THEY CONTROL GAZA.

WHO ARE THEY?

WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?

WELL, HAMAS IS A JIHADIST

ORGANIZATION.

IT IS AN ORGANIZATION OF THE

MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.ç

ITç CALLS FOR THE

ANNIHILATION OF NOT ONLY OF

THE JEWISH STATE, BUT OF THE

JEWISH PEOPLE WORLDWIDE.

IT BELIEVES THAT IT IS

REQUIRED TO DO SO NOT TO

ESTABLISH A PALESTINIAN

STATE, BUT TO ESTABLISH A

PALESTINIAN ENCLAVE OF AN

ISLAMIC CALIPHATE THAT THEY

HOPE AND THINK, LIKE

al-QAEDA WILL RULE THE

WORLD.

THAT'S WHAT HAMAS IS.

THE P.L.O.çç IS AN

ORGANIZATION THAT WAS

FORMED, OR FACTIONS OF IT --

YASSER ARAFAT'S FACTION WAS

FORMED IN THE LATE 1950s.

AND THERE IS AN UMBRELLA

ORGANIZATION OF PALESTINIAN

TERRORIST GROUPS.

THE LARGEST GROUPS IS FATAH,

WHICH ARAFAT FORMED, AND IT

REFUSES TO RECOGNIZE THAT

THE JEWS ARE A PEOPLE, THAT

THE JEWISH PEOPLE HAVE ANY

CONNECTION TO THE LAND OF

ISRAEL.

AND THEY ASCRIBEç TOç THE

MUSLIMS JEWISH HISTORY, AND

CLAIM THAT THE JEWS OF THE

BIBLE WERE ACTUALLY MUSLIMS,

AND THEREFORE THEY REJECT

ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO EXIST.

Pat: THERE NEVER HAS

BEEN A PALESTINIAN COUNTRY.

THESE PALESTINIANS, WHO ARE

THEY?

THE WHOLE TERM

"PALESTINIAN" OR

"PALESTINIAN ARAB" BECAME

COMMON USAGE IN 1974, AFTER

THE ARABç OILç EMBARGO,

FOLLOWING ISRAEL'S VICTORY

OVER THE EGYPTIANS AND THE

SYRIANS IN 1973.

THE SAUDIS BEGAN DICTATING

TERMS TO EUROPE FOR

RECEIVING A STEADY FLOW OF

OIL FROM THE PERSIAN GULF.

AND ONE OF THOSE MAIN

DEMANDS WAS THAT EUROPE

BEGIN TO ACCEPT AND

RECOGNIZE THE P.L.O. AND

OPPOSE ISRAEL DEPç

DIPLOMATICALLY.

AND OVER TIME, THIS TERM OF

ART, "PALESTINIAN," BECAME

MORE AND MORE ENTRENCHED.

BUT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT

WHEN ISRAEL WAS FORMED IN

1948, ISRAELI JEWS WERE

REFERRED TO AS PALESTINIAN

JEWS, AND THE ARABS WERE

REFERRED TO AS PALESTINIAN

ARABS.

THIS IS ALL A NEW TERM.

IT JUICE USED TO REFER TO

JEWS.

AND OBAMA AND CLINTON, WERE

THEY INTO SOME SORT OF A

DELUSION ACCORDING TO THIS.

WE PUSHED SO HARD TO GET

THIS TWO-STATE SOLUTION.

YES.

THIS ISN'T A DELUSION UNIQUE

TO THE UNITED STATES.

THE BRITISH HAD IT AS WELL

FROM 1920 TO 1948.

IT IS BASED UPON Aç DESIRE TOç

WISH AWAY THE REAL CAUSE OF

THE PROLONGED ARAB CONFLICT

WITH THE JEWS, WHICH IS THE

ARABS REFUSE TO RECOGNIZE

JEWISH RIGHTS.

INSTEAD OF CONTENDING WITH

THAT, WHICH REQUIRES

PATIENCE AND IT REQUIRES A

FOCUS ON THE FAULT LIES

SOLELY WITH THE ARABS, THE

JEWS HAVE AT EVERY POINT

BEEN WILLING TO MAKE AN

AGREEMENT WITH THEç ARABS,

AND SO

PARTITION AGREEMENT SO THEY

COULD LIVE IN PEACE, AND

ONLY THE ARABS REJECTED IT.

BUT THAT REQUIRES PATIENCE,

AND IT REQUIRES THE UNITED

STATES TO BE WILLING TO

RECOGNIZE THINGS FOR WHAT

THEY ARE.

ISRAEL IS THE STEADIEST

WESTERN ALLY.

THE ARABS AREçç FALLING APART

POLITICALLY.

BUT IT IS MUCH I'S SEAR TO

EASIER TO LIES WITH ISRAEL

AND IT WON'T APPEASE THE

P.L.O. AND ITS ALLIES.

IT CLAIMS THAT THE FAULT

LIES WITH THE AMERICAN ALLY,

AND ALL OF THE UNITED STATES

IS REQUIRED TO DO TO BRING

PEACE EVERLASTING TO THE

REGIONç ISç TO PRESSURE ISRAEL

TO GIVE UP ITS HEARTLAND OF

JUDEA AND SAMARIA, WITHOUT

WHICH IT CAN'T DEFEND ITSELF

TO PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS.

Pat: AFTER THE SIX-DAY

WAR ISRAEL TOOK OVER THAT

SO-CALLED WEST BANK

TERRITORY, THE BIBLE LAND OF

JUDEA AND SAMARIA.

AND NOW THE TWO-STATE

SOLUTION IS A LOT OF THAT

GOES BACK, AND HALF OF

JERUSALEM GOES IN ASç A

CAPITAL OF THIS NEW

PALESTINIAN STATE.

YOU'RE SAYING THE ISRAELI

SOLUTION IS THE ISRAELIS

OUGHT TO TAKE CHARGE OF THAT

LAND AND NOT ONLY MAKE IT

DEFACTO, BUT DEJURY, AND

GOVERNOR WITH ISRAELI LAW

AND THEY'LL BE BETTER OFF?

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

SINCE THE P.L.O. CAME IN

IN 1994,ç THEYç HAVE

UNDERMINED THE RULE OF LAW

IN THE AREAS THAT THEY RULE,

TRANSFORMED THEIR AREAS INTO

CLEPTO CRATIC TERROR E ON

CLAVES.

AND THEY HAVE IMPRISONED

JOURNALISTS AND ANYBODY WHO

SPEAKS OUT AGAINST THE

REGIME.

SO THEçç PALESTINIANS WENT TO

WHERE THEY HAD MORE RIGHTS

THAN IN ANY OTHER WORLD, TO

JUST A REGULAR PEOPLE IN THE

ARAB WORLD THAT HAVE NO

CIVIL RIGHTS.

WHAT I PROPOSE IS THAT FOR

THE BETTERMENT OF ALL,

ISRAEL SHOULD APPLY ITS LAWS

AND THROUGH THEM, THE

SOVEREIGNTY THROUGH THOSE

AREAS, AND STOP WITH THIS

TWO-STATE SOLUTION THAT HAS

FAILED CONTINUOUSLY FOR 90

YEARS.

AND GOç WITH WHATç WORKS.

THE ONLY THING THAT REALLY

WORKS IS ISRAEL.

ALL OF THE DEMOGRAPHIC DATA

THAT PEOPLE LIKE PRESIDENT

OBAMA CONTINUOUSLY THREATEN

ISRAEL WITH, DEMOGRAPHIC

COLLAPSE, HAS BEEN

FALSIFIED.

IF ISRAEL WERE TO DO THIS,

ISRAEL WOULD STILL RETAIN A

VERY LARGE AND GROWING

JEWISH MAJORITY OF THE

LAND.

AND THE PALESTINIAN COULD BE

AFFORDED FULL RIGHTS.

AND THAT WILL BE THAT.

Pat:ç CAROLINE, THISç IS

AN INTRIGUING SOLUTION.

DO YOU THINK ANYBODY IS

GOING TO BUY IT?

I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE

ALREADY BUYING IT.

IN ISRAEL, WE'VE LIVED

THROUGH THE PAST 20 YEARS.

AND WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE

TWO-STATE SOLUTION DOESN'T

BRING PEACE.

IT BRINGS A MASSACRE OF OUR

PEOPLE.

SO JUST IN THE PRESENT

CANNESSET SESSION, THEY

CALLED FORç AREETHAT

COMPRISE A MAJORITY OF THE

LAND.

PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT

THIS ALL OF THE TIME.

THIS IS ACTIVE POLICY GOING

ON IN ISRAEL TODAY.

ISRAELIS HAVE PASSED THE

RUBICON.

WE SAW WHAT IS HAPPENING

FROM GAZA.

AND ISRAELI CIVILIANS BEING

ATTACKED, AND ASSAULTED BY

MASSIVE MISSILE ATTACKS FROM

GAZA.

WE CAN'T LEAVE AND JUST PACK

UP OUR MARBLES AND GOç HOME,

ANDç WE CAN'T MAKE A PEACE

DEAL WITH THE PALESTINIANS

BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO?

HOW DO WE ENSURE OUR

FUTURE?

WE ENSURE OUR FUTURE BY

ENSURING OUR FUTURE?

THAT'S THE ISRAELI

SOLUTION.

I THINK IT IS AN IMPORTANT

ALTERNATIVE TO THE PATH OF

FAILURE WE'VE BEEN ON FOR SO

LONG.

Pat: CAROLINE, IT IS AN

INTRIGUING BOOK, AND I HOPE

YOU'LL GET A COPY TOç THE

UNITEDúS]ATES CONGRESS AND

ALL OF THOSE IN THE STATE

DEPARTMENT.

I'M GOING FROM HERE TO

CAPITOL HILL.

SO WE'LL SEE.

Pat: THE BOOK IS CALLED

"THE ISRAELI SOLUTION, AN

OPEN-STATE PLAN FOR PEACE IN

THE MIDDLE EAST."

YOU REALLY ALL TO GET A COPY

OF IT, IT IS VERY GOOD

HISTORY AND VERY WELL

WRITTEN.

Terry: WISELY WRITTEN.

Pat: IS THAT

ENLIGHTENING?

Terry: WELL, IT MAKESç

SENSE.ç

Pat: OF COURSE IT MAKES

SENSE.

BUT MOST OF US WHO ARE

PRO-ISRAELI, IT MAKES

SENSE.

Terry: UP NEXT, THEY

HAVE 31 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE

TOGETHER.

TONY DUNGY AND HIS WIFE,

LAUREN, TALK ABOUT THE

CHALLENGE OF COMMUNICATION.

YOU KNOW, THE LORD IS

TELLING ME THIS IS WHERE TO

GO.

HE KNEW, BUT HE WASN'T

SHARING THAT WITH ME.

TONY WAS COMMUNICATE WIG

EVERYBODY BUT ME.çç

Terry: SEE HOW THE

DUNGYS OVERCAME THIS

MISUNDERSTANDING TO BUILD

WHAT THEY CALL AN UNCOMMON

MARRIAGE.

çççççççç

Terry: HE PUT FAITH AND

FAMILY AHEAD OFçç FOOTBALL.

AND MADE SUPER BOWL

HISTORY.

LEGENDARY COACH TONY DUNGY

PRACTICED WHAT HE PREACHED

AT HOME FIRST, ALONG WITH

HIS LOVELY WIFE, LAUREN.

AND RECENTLY SEAN BROWN

TALKED WITH THE COUPLE ABOUT

THE GAME PLAN THAT HAS GIVEN

THEM A WINNING MARRIAGE.

Reporter: TONY AND

LAUREN DUNGY HAVE BEEN

MARRIED FOR THE PAST 31

YEARS.

THEY TALK ABOUT THEIRç

RELATIONSHIP Kn THEIR NEW

BOOK, "UNCOMMON MARRIAGE,"

AND SHARE WHAT THEY HAVE

LEARNED ABOUT LASTING LOVE,

AND HOW TO NEGOTIATE THE

OBSTACLES THAT LIFE CAN

BRING.

WHAT ARE SOME OF THE

THINGS YOU WANT READERS TO

GET FROM YOUR BOOK?

TO KNOW THAT MARRIAGE IS

TOUGH, BUT IT IS DOABLE.

IT IS A GREAT INSTITUTION.

WE NEED TO RAISE THAT

INSTITUTION BACK TO UP TO

WHERE IT WAS HELD YEARS

AGO.

I THINK WE HAVE TAKEN

MARRIAGE WAY TOO LIGHTLY INçC:

OUR COUNTRY.

IT IS IMPORTANT.

IT IS GOD'S PLAN.

AND WE'VE GOT TO DO IT GOD'S

WAY.

AND THAT MARRIAGE IS A

COMMITMENT, AND GOD INTENDED

IT TO BE LONG-LASTING.

AND WHEN WE ENCOUNTER

DIFFICULTIES OR CHALLENGES,

THAT WE WORK CLOSER

TOGETHER.

AND IT'S SO EASY TO SAY, YOU

KNOW, I'M GIVING UP AND I'M

THROWING IN THE TOWEL.

BUT GOD INTENDS FOR US TO

STAY TOGETHER0A

THROUGH THOSE CHALLENGES.

Reporter: THEY SAY THE

BASIC CHALLENGE IS LEARNING

HOW TO COMMUNICATE.

COMMUNICATION IS THE

KEY.

I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THAT

ENOUGH.

IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT

YOU'RE ON THE SAME PAGE AND

YOU'RE TALKING AND PRAYING

ABOUT EVERYTHING.

AND OFTENTIMES THAT LITTLE

MISUNDERSTANDING CAN CREATE

A LOT OF PROBLEMS.

WHEN YOU SAY4ú&"COMMUNICATE,"ç THAT CAN

SOMETIMES MEAN SOMETHING

DIFFERENT TO A HUSBAND THAN

TO A WIFE.

SO I'LL ASK YOU BOTH, WHAT

DOES IT MEAN TO

COMMUNICATE?

I THINK THERE ARE TWO

PARTS TO COMMUNICATING.

IT IS TALKING, BUT IT'S ALSO

LISTENING.

AND IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO

LISTEN AND HEAR THE OTHER

PERSON.

IF YOU'RE TOO BUSY TALKING

AND GETTING YOUR POINT

ACROSS ORhSAYING WHAT'Sç ON

YOUR MIND, THEN YOU'RE NOT

ABLE TO COMMUNICATE

AFFECTIVELY WITH THE OTHER

PERSON.

I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

AND THE NEXT STEP IS TAKING

IT AND A APPLYING IT.

IT IS ONE THING WE BOTH HEAR

EACH OTHER, BUT WHERE ARE WE

GOING TO GO FROM HERE?

THIS IS IMPORTANT, AND I

NEED TO ACT ON THIS.

Reporter: TONY WASç AN

ASá@áUP'T COACH IN KANSAS

CITY AND DECIDED TO TAKE A

JOB IN MINNESOTA.

THE PROBLEM WAS, HE DIDN'T

MAKE SURE HIS WIFE WAS FULLY

ON BOARD WITH THE MOVE.

ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS,

DENNY GREEN, GOT THE HEAD

COACHING JOB WITH THE

MINNESOTA VIKINGS AND SAID

COME UP AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT

THAT.

I KNEW IN MY HEART, THAT

COACH GREEN -- I'VE KNOWN

HIM AND PLAYED FOR HIM.

IT WAS GOING TO BE A GREAT

SITUATION.

HE WAS MAKING MEçç DEFENSIVE

COORDINATOR.

I KNEW, YOU KNOW.

THE LORD IS TELLING ME THIS

IS WHERE TO GO.

SO IN MAYBE ONE DAY, HEY,

I'M NOT GOING BACK TO WORK

WITH THE CHIEFS.

WE'RE GOING TO MINNESOTA.

WHAT HE KNEW, HE WASN'T

SHARING THAT WITH ME.

I SHARED IT WITH YOU, BUT

IT WAS FAST,.

HE DIDN'T SHARE IT AND

COMMUNICATE THE WAY HE

NEEDED TO.

Reporter: IT IS

INTERESTING BECAUSE FOR MEN,

FOR US, WE THINK --;HUt

REA&Y THINK WE'RE

COMMUNICATING.

I DID SAY THAT.

HE MADE A STATEMENT AND

THEN YOU'RE OUT THE DOOR.

THAT IS NOT COMMUNICATION.

Reporter: FOR YOU --

HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW DID

YOU FEEL IN THAT MOMENT?

I KNOW SOMETIMES FOR ME, I

DON'T GET IT.

I REALLY FELT WE CAN

NEVER PRAY ENOUGH.

AND I THINK WE NEEDED TO

PRAY MORE ABOUT IT AND JUST

HAVE THAT ASSURANCE AND kN)u

THATç THIS WAS WHERE THE LORD

WAS DIRECTING US AND WHERE

WE SHOULD GO.

AND I FELT THAT TONY WAS

COMMUNICATING WITH EVERYBODY

BUT ME.

IT WAS A GOOD LESSON,

THOUGH, AS WE LOOK BACK ON

IT, THAT WE REALLY NEEDED TO

COMMUNICATE BETTER WITH EACH

OTHER.

Reporter: WITH THE

LESSON LEARNED, MOVING

FORWARD, TONY AND LAUREN

MADE SURE THEY WERE ON THE

SAME PAGE.

AFTER FOUR YEARS WITHç THEç

VIKINGS, TONY BECAME THE

HEAD COACH FOR THE

BUCCANEERS.

SIX SEASONS AFTER THAT, HE

BECAME THE HEAD COACH FOR

THE INDIANAPOLIS COLTS.

IN 2007 HE BECAME THE FIRST

AFRICAN-AMERICAN HEAD COACH

TO WIN A SUPER BOWL.

THE DUNGYS SAY IN ADDITION

TO COMMUNICATING, THERE IS

ANOTHER ESSENTIAL KEY WITH

STRONG MARRIAGE: PRAYER.

IF YOU ASK US ONE KEY TO

HAVINGçç THAT UNCOMMON

MARRIAGE, I REALLY DO THINK

IT IS PRAYING TOGETHER,

PRAYING FOR YOUR SPOUSE ALL

THE TIME, BUT PRAYING

TOGETHER WITH YOUR SPOUSE.

THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT

SPECIAL.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT

WE'VE LEARNED THAT IS

IMPORTANT.

WE HAVE CARVED OUT THAT

TIME, AND FOR US IT WORKS.

FIRST THING IN THE MORNING,

BEFORE WE GET BUSY WITH THE

KIDS, BEFORE WE GET BUSY

WITH OUR DAILY ROUTINE, WE

GET UP AND WE TAKE TIMEç TOç

PRAY TOGETHER AND READ.

AND WE'VE HAD THAT

FELLOWSHIP WITH OUR HEAVENLY

FATHER.

Reporter: THE DUNGYS

HAVE CHRONICLED THREE

DECADES OF LIFE'S

EXPERIENCES TO HELP PEOPLE

UNDERSTAND THAT THROUGH GOD,

MARRIAGE CAN WORK, NO MATTER

WHAT OBSTACLES COME THEIR

WAY.

JESUS CHRIST IS THE

CENTER OF OUR LIFE, HE

DIRECTS EVERYTHING, ANDç

WE'REç LIVING TO SERVE HIM.

IF I'M SINGLE AND I'M

FOLLOWING CHRIST, HE IS

GIVING ME DIRECTION.

AND LAUREN IS FOLLOWING

CHRIST AND HE IS GIVING HER

DIRECTION.

AND NOW WE WANT TO COME

TOGETHER AS A COUPLE.

WELL, WE WOULD GO IN

DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS IF WE

DIDN'T HAVE CHRIST.

AND WITH CHRIST AS THE GUIDE

POST, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO

COME TOGETHER AND NOT GROW

APART.

Terry: A LOT OF WISDOM

FROM A COUPLEç WHO HASç

LEARNED ABOUT IT OVER THE

YEARS.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEARN

MORE ABOUT THE DUNGY'S

MARRIAGE, INCLUDING HOW THEY

COPED WITH THE SUICIDE OF

THEIR SON, JAMIE -- LIFE HAS

NOT ALWAYS BEEN EASY FOR

THEM.

YOU'LL WANT TO READ THIS

BOOK, AND ITS CALLED,

"UNCOMMON MARRIAGE."

THEY HAVE A LOT OF WISDOM

AND A LOT TO SAY.

TIME FOR E-MAIL.

THIS IS "BRING IT ON."

THE FIRST ONE IS FROM KAY,

AND SHEç SAYS,ç "MY GRANDSON

WAS SAVED AT 10 YEARS OF

AGE.

IN HIS LATE TEENS, HE

STARTED STEALING WITH HIS

FRIENDS.

HE WAS SHOT AND KILLED WHILE

TRESPASSING, BY SOMEONE WHO

THOUGHT HE WAS STEALING FROM

THEM.

MY QUESTION IS, CAN MY

GRANDSON STILL GO TO HEAVEN

BECAUSo HE WASç SAVED, BUT HE

WAS NOT DOING THE RIGHT

THING?"

Pat: KAY, I CAN'T

REALLY SAY.

I DO THINK THAT GOD KEEPS

THOSE WHO BELONG TO HIM.

BUT I CAN'T TELL YOU.

I CAN'T SAY HE IS IN

HEAVEN.

ONLY GOD KNOWS.

I DON'T HAVE ANY INSIGHT

INTO IT.

YOU CAN'T EVER PRESUME ON

THE LORD AND SAY, I KNOW I

MADE A DECISION WHEN I WAS

10 YEARS OLD, BUT WHEN I'M

25 I'Mç OUTç DOING DRUGS, CAT

TING AROUND AND BREAKING THE

LAW, AND THEREFORE I'M GOING

TO BE IN HEAVEN.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT.

YOU CANNOT PRESUME UPON THE

LORD.

Terry: THIS IS SUZANNE,

WHO'S QUESTION IS SOMEWHAT

IN LINE WITH THAT, SHE SAYS,

"ARE CHRISTIANS WHO SIN ABLE

TO REPENTçç AND HAVE

SALVATION.

AFTER READING HEBREWS ON

BELIEVERS WHO DELIBERATELY

SIN, I'M NOT SURE ANYMORE."

Pat: GOD BLESS YOU, BUT

YOU READ THE BIBLE BUT YOU

DON'T READ IT CORRECTLY.

THE WORD IS GREEK IS

"APOSTOSIZE," WHICH MEANS

YOU TURNç AWAY FRK GOD.

YOU SAY I DON'T BELIEVE IN

GOD, I DON'T BELIEVE IN

JESUS, I DON'T BELIEVE IN

ANY OF IT, AND THAT'S WHAT

IT MEANS.

SIN IS SOMETHING ELSE.

FALLING AWAY, I MISSED THE

MARK.

BUT WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS

THAT IF SOMEBODY APç

APOSTOSIZES AND TRAMPLES ON

THE BLOOD OF CHRIST, AND

DENIES IT ALL, THAT'S A

TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.

Terry: BRIAN SAYS, "MY

81-YEAR-OLD MOTHER AND I,

BETTY WATCH YOUR SHOW ALL OF

THE TIME.

TALK ABOUT WHAT SIN IS.

MOST MINISTERS GLOSS OVER

THIS FACT.

I SAY WHEN I'M TOLD I WAS

BORN A SINNERçç THAT I DESERVE

TO KNOW WHY YOU BAR BORN A

SINNER."

Pat: ORIGINAL SIN --

HUMANITY, BECAUSE OF WHAT

HAPPENED TO ADAM AND EVE

HAVE A TENDENCY TOWARDS

SIN.

ADAM AND EVE LIVED IN THE

PRESENCE OFç GODç ALMIGHTY.

AND THEY WERE IN MORAL

NEUTRAL.

THEY DIDN'T HAV HAVE A A

TENDENCY TOWARDS SIN, AND

THEIR NATURAL REACTION WAS

TO OBEY HIM.

BUT RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE OF

THE FLESH AND THE DEVIL, THE

PULL ON US IS TOWARDS SIN.

THEY USE THE TERM "ORIGINAL

SIN," AND WEç HAVE THAT

FEELING.

AND AS WE'RE BORN INTO THIS

WORLD, THERE IS A TENDENCY

TO GO AWAY FROM GOD.

THE BIBLE SAYS FOLLY IS

BOUND UP IN THE HEART OF A

CHILD.

WE GO STRAIGHT FROM THE WOMB

SPEAKING LIES.

THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT US

THAT IS SINFUL.

AND THEREFORE THAT SIN, WHEN

WE COME TO JESUS CHRIST,

THAT'S WHAT BEING BORN AGAINç

IS BORNç ABOUT.

WE'RE ACTUALLY REBORN AS A

NEW CREATURE IN CHRIST.

AND THAT TENDENCY NOW IS

TAKEN AWAY FROM US BECAUSE

GOD NOW GIVES US HIS HOLY

SPIRIT AND WE ARE MORE DRAWN

TOWARDS GOD THAN WE ARE

TOWARDS SIN.

THAT'S WHAT ORIGINAL SIN IS

ALL ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS

YOUR QUESTION, BUT I THINK

IT IS PART OF IT.

Terry: HAZEL SAYS, "I'M

17 AND PREGNANT, AND THEç

BABY'S FATHERç DOES NOT CARE

ABOUT ME AND THE BABY.

HE TOLD ME HE WANTED IT, BUT

WHEN HE FOUND OUT I WAS

PREGNANT, HE MOVED TO

ANOTHER COUNTRY.

I PRAYED A LOT FOR THIS

RELATIONSHIP AND NOW THIS

HAPPENED.

I FEEL SO BAD.

HOW CAN I BELIEVE IN FAMILY

AND LOVE?"

Pat: DARLING, YOU'RE 17

AND YOU'RE HAVING SEX OUT OF

MARRIAGE, HOW CAN YOU

BELIEVE IN FAMILY AND LOVE?

THAT'S NOT FAMILY AND THAT'S

NOTç LOVE.ç

THAT'S LUST AND YOU GOT

CAUGHT.

SO, OKAY, YOU HAD A BABY.

YOU CAN BELIEVE IN GOD.

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS GIVE

YOUR HEART TO THE LORD.

ASK HIS FORGIVENESS FOR WHAT

YOU'VE DONE, AND ASK HIM TO

GIVE YOU A NEW LIFE.

NOW, YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO

THIS GUY, AND IF GOD SENDS

YOU THE APPROPRIATE MAN,

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH

YOU GETTING MARRIED AND

BUILDING A FAMILY.

BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVED

AND ]U DIDN'T HAVE LOVE.

BUT YOU CAN HAVE FAMILY AND

YOU CAN HAVE LOVE IF YOU

SURRENDER TO THE LORD AND

ASK HIS FORGIVENESS.

HE WILL GRACIOUSLY FORGIVE

YOU, PUT HIS ARMS AROUND

YOU, AND GIVE YOU A BRAND

NEW LIFE BECAUSE HE LOVES

YOU.

Terry: THIS IS FROM

MISSY WHO SAYS, "I WAS

MARRIED TO A BELIEVER WHO

WAS KILLED IN A MOTORCYCLE

ACCIDENT IN 2007.

AFTER A FEW YEARS OF

DEPRESSION, DESPERATION, AND

LONEMYNESS, I METç A MAN WHO

IS NOT A BELIEVER, AND I

MARRIED HIM, THINKING I

WOULD LEAD HIM TO THE LORD.

THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED IN

THREE YEARS, AND I REALIZE

NOW THIS WAS A BIG MISTAKE.

AM I OBLIGATED TO STAY IN

THE MARRIAGE?

HOW RESPONSIBLE ARE WE TO

STAY TRUE TO A PROMISE WHILE

WE WERE EMOTIONALLY

DISTRAUGHT.

I DGN&T WANTç TO MAKE

MISTAKES.

I WANT TO STAY TRUE TO THE

LORD."

Pat: YOUR HONOR, WAS

DRUNK.

Terry: BUT AT LEAST AT

THIS STAGE SHE WANTS TO MAKE

THE RIGHT DECISION.

Pat: THE BIBLE SAYS IF

THERE IS AN UNBELIEVER, LET

THEM DEPART.

THE BROTHER OR SISTER IS NOT

BOUND IN THAT GáQ

BUTç IN THIS CASE, YOU WANT

TO LEAVE.

GOD SAYS HE HATES DIVORCE,

BUT I WOULD HESITATE TO SAY

THAT YOU'RE BOUND IN A

SITUATION LIKE THAT.

BUT YOU BETTER PRAY ON THAT

ONE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE AN

ANSWER FOR YOU.

Terry: WHAT SHE IS

DOING IS VERY TYPICAL.

LOTS OF US, AS WOMEN, HAVE

GOTTEN INTO RELATIONSHIPS IN

OUR LIVES WHERE WE SAY WHEN

I'M JUST THERE, IT WILL BE

DIFFERENT.ç

AND, YOUç KNOW, THE WISE

THING IS IF IT IS NOT

DIFFERENT NOW, IT IS NOT

GOING TO BE DIFFERENT

LATER.

Pat: OF COURSE.

THEY JUMP INTO MARRIAGE AND

THEY THROW THEMSELVES AWAY,

AND THEY FEEL CHEAPENED, AND

THEY'RE DEBASED --

Terry: I IT MEETS A

NEED AT THE MOMENT.

Pat: CAN YOU GET OUT OF

THAT?

IS IT PERMISSIBLE UNDER THE

BIBLE TO SAY IT ISç ALLç

OVER?

Terry: I DON'T THINK

SO.

Pat: YOU DON'T THINK

SO?

Terry: I DON'T THINK

SO.

UNLESS YOU HAVE BIBLICAL

GROUNDS, YOU'RE TO STAY, AND

BY YOUR BEHAVIOR PERHAPS WOO

THE PERSON.

Pat: I BELIEVE IN

CONSTRUCTIVE DESERTION.

THE BIBLE SAYS IF HE IS

PLEASED TO LIVE WITH YOU, GO

AHEAD AND LIVE WITH HIM.

BUT IF HE IS NOT PLEASED TO

LIVE WITH YOU, AND HEç WANTS

TOLEAVE, YOU'RE NOT BOUND.

BUT THIS IS A DIFFICULT

SITUATION --

Terry: WE ALMOST DON'T

HAVE ENOUGH DETAILS ON THE

RELATIONSHIP --

Pat: I REALLY DON'T, TO

KNOW WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE

IS.

IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR

OTHERS IN THIS AUDIENCE,

DON'T JUMP INTO SOME

MARRIAGE RELATIONSHIP ON THE

SPISPUR OF THE MOMENT.

I THOUGHTç Iç HEARD BELLS

RINGING OR I HEARD SOMETHING

IN MY HEART GOING OFF.

STAY OUT OF THAT.

MARRIAGE IS FOR KEEPS.

AND DON'T ENTER INTO

MARRIAGE --

Terry: KEEPS IS FOR A

LONG TIME.

Pat: IF YOU MADE A

MISTAKE, A GIRL GETS

PREGNANT, BETTER TO HAVE A

BABY, BRING UP THE BABY,

THEN TO ENTER INTO AN

ILL-ADVISED MARRIAGE AND

THEN BUST THAT UPçç AND GO

SOME PLACE ELSE.

YOU ARE BETTER TO STAY AS

YOU ARE.

SO JUST LET THE LORD LEAD

YOU.

WE'RE GETTING QUESTIONS, BY

THE WAY -- THOSE QUESTIONS

CAME IN YESTERDAY ON THE

INTERNET.

THEY CAME IN ON THE INTERNET

YESTERDAY, AND WE'RE

ANSWERING THEM TODAY.

AND WE GET THEM AS FAST AS

WE CAN.

Terry: INDEED.

Pat: WE'VE GOT A LOT OF

QUESTIONS, BUT WEç CAN'T TAKEç

BUT FIVE OR SIX OF THEM.

Terry: STILL AHEAD, A

GROOM WITH A SECRET DRUG

ADDICTION.

ON OUR WEDDING NIGHT, I

ENDED UP SMOKING AND I DID

DRUGS ON THE WEDDING NIGHT.

SHORTLY AFTER GETTING

MARRIED WAS THE FIRST TIME

HE PUSHED ME UP AGAINST A

WALL, AND I FELT LIKE, OH,

DID I MAKE A MISTAKE?

DID I MARRY THE RIGHT

PERSON?

Terry: THE ANSWERS TO

THOSE QUESTIONS ARE COMING

UP.

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AND WELCOME BACK TO "THE

700 CLUB."

A BIBLE VERSE AT THE AIR

FORCE ACADEMYçç HAS SET OFF A

DEBATE OVER THE CONSTITUTION

AND RELIGIOUS FREEDOM.

CADETS WERE PRESSURED TO

REMOVE A BIBLE VERSE WRITTEN

ON A BLACK BOARD.

A CADET WROTE GALATIANS 2

AND 20 OUTSIDE THE BOARD.

IT READS, "I HAVE BEEN

CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST,

THEREFORE I NO LONGER LIVE,

BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME.

I LIVE BY FAITH IN THE SON

OF GOD, WHO LOVES ME AND

GATe@!%5M

THE DIRECTOR OF THE

RELIGIOUS FREEDOM FOUNDATION

CLAIMS THAT AMOUNTED TO AN

ABUSE OF AUTHORITY.

THE CADETS LATER REMOVED

THAT VERSE.

CATHOLIC GROUPS IN OKLAHOMA

HAVE FILED A NEW

CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT TO

BLOCK PORTIONS OF

OBAMACARE'S ABORTION

MANDATE.

IT IS A GROUP OF NEARLY 200

CATHOLIC EMPLOYERS.

THEY WANT TO STOP THE

MANDATE THAT FORCES

EMPLOYERS TO PROVIDE HEALTH

INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR BIRTHç

CONTROLç AND

ABORTION-INDUCING DRUGS.

CATHOLIC LEADERS SAY THOSE

PRACTICE PRACTICES VIOLATE

CATHOLIC TEACHINGS.

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Terry: TONY AND ROSA

GOT OFF TO A ROUGH START.

THEIR MARRIAGE WENT FROM BAD

TO WORSE.

SO THEY DIVORCED.

THEN THEY REMARRIED.

FOR SEVERAL YEARS ROSA

THOUGHT THEIR RELATIONSHIP

WAS SOLID UNTIL SHE CAUGHT

Facebook.

I TOLD MYSELF, OKAY, I'M

GOING TO STOP THIS.

I'M GOING TO STOP SMOKING

AND CLEAN ALL THAT UP.

Reporter: WHEN TONY

MARTINEZ MARRIED ROSA, HE

THOUGHT HE COULD LEAVE HIS

CRYSTAL METH ADDICTION

BEHIND.

ON OUR WEDDING NIGHT, I

DID SOME DRUGS.

AND IT PROGRESSIVELY STARTED

TO GET WORSE.

Reporter: TONY WAS ABLE

TO KEEPç HISç DRUG ABUSE

PRIVATE FROM HIS WIFE, BUT

IT SENT HIM INTO FITS OF

RAGE.

SHORTLY AFTER GETTING

MARRIED WAS THE FIRST TIME

HE PUSHED ME UP AGAINST A

WALL.

AND I THOUGHT, DID I MAKE A

MISTAKE?

DID I MARRY THE RIGHT

PERSON?

Reporter: ROSA STILL

LOVED HER HUSBAND AND

TOLERATED HIS VOLATILE

BEHAVIOR.

I WAS GOING TO FIGHT FOR

OUR MILES PE MARRIAGE AND

TRY TO BE PATIENT WITH HIM.ç

Reportwr: THEN THEY HAD

A SON.

ROSA THOUGHT THINGS WOULD

GET BETTER, BUT SHE WAS

WRONG.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TYPE

OF MOOD HE WOULD BE WHEN HE

WOULD GET HOME FROM WORK.

Reporter: ROSA PLEADED

WITH HER HUSBAND TO GO TO

COUNSELLING, BUT HE FELT

LIKE HE LOST CONTROL OF HIS

LIFE.

AFTER I WOULD BLOW UP AT

MY FAMILY, I THOUGHT, WHY AM

I TREATING MY FAMILY THIS

WAY.

Reporter: AFTER ONEç OFç

HIS BLOWUPS, SHE CALLED THE

POLICE.

EVEN THOUGH SHE DIDN'T PRESS

CHARGES, TONY THOUGHT HE

SHOULD STAY AT HIS PARENTS'

HOUSE.

I CALLED MY WIFE AND TOLD

HER THE REASON I WAS HAVING

THE MOOD SWINGS BECAUSE OF

THE DRUGS.

THEN I UNDERSTOOD.

THE ANGER ISSUES WAS

STARTING TO MAKE MORE SENSE

TO ME.

Reporter: FINALLY TONY

ENROLLED INçç A CHRISTIAN DRUG

ADDICTION PROGRAM.

AND DURING THAT TIME, TONY

AND ROSA JOINED A CHURCH AND

ACCEPTED CHRIST TOGETHER.

WE WERE BOTH BAPTIZED

TOGETHER.

AND I REMEMBER WHEN THEY

ASKED US IN OUR BAPTISM,

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE FROM

BEFORE AND NOW, HAVING A

LIFE WITH CHRIST.

AND I SAID NOW OUR ARGUMENTS

ONLY LAST A FEW HOURS

INSTEAD OF A FEW DAYS.

AND HE WAS LAUGHING ABOUTç

THAT.

÷iWKg ALTHOUGH TONY

PROFESSED FAITH IN CHRIST,

TONY STILL STRUGGLED WITH

HIS ANGER.

EVENTUALLY THEY DIVORCED.

OVER TIME TONY DEALT WITH

HIS ANGER, AND THE TWO

REUNITED.

I DID ASK FOR FORGIVENESS

FROM HER AND THE WAY THAT I

TREATED HER, THE WAY I

TALKED ABOUT HER, THE WAY

THAT I WAS TO HER.

Reporter: OVER THEYáU

SEVERALç YEARS, THEIR

MARRIAGE FLOURISHED, SO WHEN

TONY RECEIVED A WORK

ASSIGNMENT IN HONG KONG,

ROSA HAD NO RESERVATIONS.

OUR MARRIAGE IS STRONG

NOW, AND IT WILL ONLY BE A

COUPLE OF YEARS, AND WE'LL

BE SEEING EACH OTHER

PERIODICALLY, AND WE CAN

MAKE IT.

Reporter: THEY SPOKE

OFTEN AND SAW EACH OTHER

EVERY THREE MONTHS.

HE WAS SENDING ME LOVE

NOTES AND E-MAILS, AND HE

WAS TELLING ME HOW HE MISSED

ME.

ABOUT;HPç YEAR AFTERWARDS,

THAT KIND OF STOPPED.

I HAD A WOMAN'S INTUITION,

THE HOLY SPIRIT SPEAKING TO

ME, TELLING ME SOMETHING IS

NOT RIGHT.

Reporter: ROSA'S FEARS

WERE CONFIRMED WHEN SHE

LOOKED THROUGH TONY'S

Facebook PAGE.

I SAW SOME MESSAGES

BETWEEN HIM AND THE OTHER

WOMAN.

SO IT WAS HEART-WRENCHING TO

ME TOç HAVE TOç EVEN TALK TO

HIM.

Reporter: SHE NEVER

SAID A WORD TO TONY ABOUT

WHAT SHE FOUND UNTIL SHE

WENT FOR A VISIT.

I STARTED READING TO HIM

THE E-MAIL I HAD SEEN BACK

HERE AT HOME.

HE SAID, I THINK YOU'VE SEEN

ENOUGH.

AND HE CLOSED DOWN THE

COMPUTER.

I WAS SO ENRAGED.

I TURNED AROUND AND I GAVE

HIM A GOOD SLAP IN THE

FACE.

Reporter: TONY THOUGHT

THEIR MARRIAGE WAS OVER.

BUT ON THE FLIGHT FROM HONG

KONG --

I THOUGHT SHEç WAS GOINGç

TO FIND A SEPARATE SEAT AND

SIT AWAY FROM ME.

BUT SHE SAT NEXT TO ME AND

PUT HER HEAD ON MY SHOULDER

AND SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE

ALL RIGHT.

DIVORCE DID CROSS MY

MIND.

BUT I KNEW SOMEHOW WE WERE

GOING TO WORK THINGS OUT

WITH GOD'S HELP.

AT THAT POINT I KNEW I

HAD TO DO WHATEVER IT TOOK,

FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, FOR

OUR RELATIONSHIP TO BE THE

BEST ITçBE.

Reporter: TONY

REDEDICATED HIS LIFE TO

CHRIST.

I'M TIRED.

I HAVE NO MORE SECRETS.

I'M NOT GOING TO LIVE THAT

LIFE ANYMORE.

I'M GOING TO LIVE MY LIFE

FOR GOD.

AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED.

I STARTED TO WORK MY

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD.

Reporter: OVER TIME

THEY CAME BACK TOGETHER, AND

TONY ALSO JOINED A MEN'S

ACCOUNTABILITY GROUP AT

CHURCH.

WITH HER SUPPORT AND HER

FORGIVENESS, IT GAVE ME Aç

RELIEF THAT I NEEDED AND THE

COURAGE AND THAT DESIRE TO

GO FIND OUT WHAT WAS WRONG.

WHY WAS I ACTING THIS WAY?

WHY WAS I BEHAVING THIS

WAY?

IT WAS A PROCESS THAT I

HAD TO GO THROU TO GET

THROUGH TO GET TO THAT

FORGIVENESS POINT.

BECAUSE IF I WOULD HAVE JUST

SAID IT WITH WORDS, I WOULD

HAVE STILL HAD THE HURT AND

ANGER INSIDE OF ME, AND THAT

WOULD HAVEç COME áDÑ A

DIFFERENT WAY.

WHEN I SAY I FORGIVE HIM AND

CHRIST IS BEHIND ME.

WE PRAY FOR EACH OTHER.

THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE

REALLY SHOWING HER, I

BELIEVE, THE DIFFERENCE IN

MYSELF, AND PUTTING HER AS

THE PRIORITY.

FIRST IS GOD, AND THEN IT'S

HER.

FOLLOW GOD'S WORD BECAUSE

HIS WORD IS HOPE.

HE PROMISES TO HELP US OUT,

TO WALK WITH US, ANDç NOTç TO

LEAVE US ALONE, AND TO GIVE

US WISDOM.

AND ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS ASK

FOR IT.

Terry: YOU KNOW,

MARRIAGE IS COMPLICATED.

WHEN WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT,

IT CAN BECOME VERY SOLID.

BUT MANY TIMES IT IS VERY

FRAGILE, AND WE NEED TO

NURTURE IT AND TAKE CARE OF

IT.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHEN

WE COMMIT OUR LIVES TO

SOMEONE ELSE, THAT WE ARE

SURRENDERING OURç RIGHTSç TO

OURSELVES, AND WE HAVE TO

BECOME ONE.

THAT'S A COMPLICATED THING.

BECAUSE WE ARE INHERENTLY

SELFISH.

SO IT MEANS MAKING DAILY

CHOICES TO DO IT RIGHT, TO

DO IT GOD'S WAY.

IT IS, AFTER ALL, GOD'S

CREATION.

A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A MAN

AND A WOMAN, HIS WAY OF

PUTTING US TOGETHER,

BRINGING US TOGETHER TO HELP

EACH OTHER, NOT TO HARM EACH

OTHER.

BUT IT MEANSç STAYING ON TOXç

OF THAT.

IT MEANS CARING FOR IT.

IT MEANS DOING ALL OF THE

THINGS THAT DEEPEN AND MAKE

A RELATIONSHIP HEALTHY.

WHEN WE DO IT GOD'S WAY, IT

WORKS.

NO ONE IS EXPECTED TO STAY

IN AN ABUSIVE SCENARIO,

PHYSICALLY OR EMOTIONALLY.

BUT SOMETIMES WE'RE IN

SCENARIOS WHERE WE JUST

DON'T WANT TO DO THE HARD

WORK IT TAKES TO BRING A

MARRIAGE TO THE PLACE IT

SHOULD BE.

I WANT TO GIVEç YOU SOMEç

SOUND ADVICE TODAY FROM

GOD'S WORD.

HERE AT CBN WE'VE PUT

TOGETHER A PACKET CALLED

"LOVE AND MARRIAGE."

SO MANY OF YOU WRITE IN

QUESTIONS AND YOU SAY, WHAT

DOES GOD THINK ABOUT THIS OR

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY

ABOUT THAT?

IT'S ALL IN HERE.

THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE FOR

YOU.

AND I WANT TO RECOMMEND TO

YOU THAT YOU GET AHOLD OF

TONY ANDç LAURENç DUNGY'S

BOOK.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF WISE

COUNSEL ON HOW DO YOU STAY

MARRIED AND STAY IN LOVE

WITH EACH OTHER.

DOING IT GOD'S WAY IS THE

KEY TO SUCCESS.

SO INVITING CHRIST INTO YOUR

LIFE FIRST IS THE KEY.

IF EACH OF YOU DO THAT, THEN

YOU START A NEW DAY IN YOUR

LIFE.

WE'VE GOT GREAT INFORMATION

HERE ON HOW DO YOU WALK WITH

THE LORD?

HOW DO YOU LIVE WITH HIM?

HOW DO YOU LET THE LOVE OFç

GND REIGN SUPREME IN YOUR

LIFE?

AND THEN IT SPILLS OVER INTO

THE LIFE OF THE ONE YOU

LOVE.

THE BOOK, OF COURSE, IS

AVAILABLE AROUND THE COUNTRY

WHEREVER BOOKS ARE SOLD.

PAT?

Pat: THANKS, TERRY.

FOLKS, WE LEAVE YOU WITH

TODAY'S POWER MINUTE FROM

ISAIAH: "NO WEAPON FORMED

AGAINST YOU SHALL PROSPER.

AND EVERY TONGUE WHICH RISES

AGAINST YOU IN JUDGMENT YOU

SHALL CONDEMN."

THIS IS THE HEART TAGE Oçç

HERITAGE OF THE SERVANTS OF

THE LORD.

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

WITH US.

"THE 700 CLUB" WILL BE ON AT

THE SAME TIME TOMORROW.

UNTIL THEN, THIS IS PAT

ROBERTSON.

SEE YOU THEN.

BYE-BYE.

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