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From Jesus to Bieber, NY Pastor Makes Church Trendy

Every Sunday thousands flock to Hillsong Church in NYC, but it's not your typical, traditional church. It is complete with strobe lights and an unconventional leader -- Carl Lentz. Read Transcript


LORD, HERE I AM, USE ME.

I KNOW YOU'RE NOT LOOKING

FOR PERFECT PEOPLE.

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AVAILABLE

ONES.

Reporter: EVERY SUNDAY,

THOUSANDS FLOCK TO HILL SUNG

CHURCH IN NEW YORK CITY.

BUT THIS CHURCH IS IN NO WAY

COMPLETE WITH STROBE LIGHTS,

AND CONCERT-LIKE WORSHIP,

AND AN UNCONVENTIONAL LEADER

IN PASTOR CARL LENTZ.

HE LOOKS MORE LIKE A ROCK

STAR THAN A MAN OF THE

CLOTHE.

DONNING LEATHER JACKETS AND

JEANS INSTEAD OF CHURCH AND

TIE.

OUR CHURCH IS AWESOME.

I ALWAYS SAY IT IS EXTREMELY

IMPERFECT, AN EVERYBODY

FITS IN.

Reporter: HILL SUNG IN

LOCATED INSIDE A NIGHTCLUB,

AND ATTRACTS EVERY DAY NEW

YORKERS, MUSICIANS, NBA

PLAYERS, AND YOUNG

CELEBRITIESMENT.

> CELEBRITIES.

OUR CHURCH IS ABOUT

TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO

EXPERIENCE GOD AS FAST AS

POSSIBLE.

THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES

PEOPLE'S LIVES IS THE POWER

OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

Reporter: JUSTIN

BIEBER, WHO HAS BEEN MAKING

HEADLINES LATELY NOT FOR HIS

MUSIC BUT FOR HIS RUN-INS

WITH THE LAW, VISITED THE

CHURCH LAST YEAR.

HE EVEN TWEETED ABOUT THE

SERVICE SAYING, "LOVE TO MY

GUY, CARL LENTZ IN N.Y.C..

LOVE YOU, MAN, BROKE DOWN

TODAY."

I LOVE JUSTIN, HE IS A

GOOD KID, TRYING TO FIGURE

THIS OUT.

HIS BEHAVIOR -- YOU KNOW, HE

IS FIGURING IT OUT.

WHAT SHOULD WE DO?

PEOPLE WHO ARE, LIKE, IS HE

EVEN A CHRISTIAN?

WITH JUSTIN, I TELL PEOPLE

GRACE DOES NOT -- GRACE AND

ACCEPTANCE DOES NOT MEAN

APPROVAL.

I CAN ACCEPT YOU AS A HUMAN

BEING AND NOT APPROVE OF

YOUR ACTIONS.

THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN

LOVED.

WE LOVE BECAUSE WE WERE

FIRST LOVED.

WITH JUSTIN, IT IS NOT MY

JOB TO BE HIS POLICE

OFFICER.

IT IS MY JOB TO BE A FRIEND

TO HIM.

Reporter: LENTZ

CO-FOUNDED THE MEGA CHURCH

TWO YEARS AGO AS AN

EXTENSION OF THE CHURCH IN

SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA.

BUT LENTZ, WHO HAS NEARLY

70,000 FOLLOWERS ON TWITTER

AND 51,000 ON INSTAGRAM, HE

IS QUICK TO POINT OUT HIS

CHURCH IS OPEN TO PEOPLE OF

ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

THERE HAPPENS TO BE

PEOPLE WHO ARE FAMOUS, AND

WE SHOULD BE REACHING THEM.

AND THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE

WHO ARE NOT FAMOUS, AND WE

SHOULD BE REACHING TO THEM.

WHEN IT COMES TO

CELEBRITIES, I SAY THEY ARE

PEOPLE, THE LAST TIME I

CHECKED.

Reporter: IN AN

APPEARANCE ON KATIE COURIC,

LENTZ WAS ASKED IF HE HAD A

MORAL IMPERATIVE TO SPEAK

PUBLICLY ABOUT CONTROVERSIAL

ISSUES, TO WHICH HE

ANSWERED, NO, BECAUSE WE TRY

TO BE LIKE JESUS.

HE TOLD CBN NEWS HE DOESN'T

WANT TO MAKE BLANKET

STATEMENTS ABOUT MORALITY,

PREFERRING, INSTEAD, TO HAVE

CONVERSATIONS TO BUILD

BRIDGES.

HOMOSEXUALITY IS

SOMETHING RIGHT NOW THAT

PEOPLE ARE REALLY, REALLY

LOOKING AT.

I WOULD RATHER TALK TO THESE

PEOPLE ON MY OWN AND WALK

EIGHIT OUT, THAN TO MAKE A

BIG, BOLD STATEMENT WHERE

SOMEBODY IS ALREADY

OSTRACIZED.

I HATE IT WHEN SOMEBODY HAS

A PRECONCEIVED NOTION OF

WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY, AND

SO I RESPECTFULLY DECLINE.

Reporter: HE HAS

CRITICS, WHICH HE SAYS HELPS

MAKE HIM BETTER.

I DON'T HAVE IT ALL

TOGETHER.

I'M TRYING TO HANDLE3(P&C @&Cú

CRITICISM BETTER.

I OFTEN WANT TO BE

UNDERSTOOD, WHICH IS A

PROBLEM IF YOU'RE A

CHRISTIAN.

I'M GOING TO TAKE IT ON

BOARD AND DO MY BEST TO WALK

WITH THE HUMBLY AND SAY -- I

NEVER WRITE CRITICISM OFF.

MOST PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE

AUS SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW US.

Reporter: MANY ASK IF

CARL LENTZ IS THE NEXT BIG

THING IN CHRISTIANITY, TO

THAT, HE SIMPLY SAYS --

I KNOW ME.

I DON'T THINK SO.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED

ANOTHER BIG THING.

I THINK WE HAD A BIG THING,

WHICH IS THE CROSS ON

CALVARY.

I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY BIG

THING NEEDED.

I THINK I'M A SMALL THING

USED BY A BIG GOD.

WE'LL LET PEOPLE SAY WHAT

THEY WANT TO SAY.

BECAUSE IF YOU START LIVING

OFF THE PRAISES OF PEOPLE,

YOU'LL DIE FROM THE

CRITICISM AS WELL.

WE LIVE RIGHT IN THE

MIDDLE.

Reporter: CHARLENE

ALEN, CBN NEWS.

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