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Brave German Woman: Why Heidi Mund Rebuked Islam

Heidi Mund, an atheist-turned-Christian, has gained global notoriety for standing up to Islam's creeping influence in her homeland, Germany. Now she's revealing why. Read Transcript


PAT: IN CASE YOU MISSED IT,

NEWS IS ISLAM IS ON THE MARCH

ACROSS EUROPE GAINING MORE POWER

AND INFLUENCE.

IN GERMANY, ONE CHRISTIAN WOMAN

HAS TAKEN A VERY PUBLIC STAND.

THAT WENT VIRAL ON YOUTUBE.

REPORTER: SHE BECAME KNOWN ON

THE INTERNET AS THE BRAVE GERMAN

WOMAN.

LAST YEAR WHEN THE IMAM TALKED

TO THE CHURCH.

SHE STOOD UP AND SAID JESUS

CHRIST, NOT ALLAH IS LORD OF

GERMANY.

SHE REPEATED THE WORDS OF MARTIN

LUTHER IN 1521 WHEN HE WAS

DEFENDING HIS BELIEF IN

SCRIPTURE, ALONE.

THE YOUTUBE VIDEO AND STORY

ABOUT HER BY CBN NEWS HAVE BOTH

GONE VIRAL ON THE INTERNET.

BY PUBLICALLY ATTACKING THE LIE

OF ISLAM, SHE HAS PLACED HER

LIFE AT RISK BECAUSE SHE IS A

BURDEN FOR THE SPIRITUAL REBIRTH

OF GERMANY.

PAT: JOINING US NOW ON OUR

SET IS THE BRAVE GERMAN WOMAN,

HEIDI MUND.

WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO MAKE THIS

STAND?

BECAUSE I HAVE TO DO IT, I AM

A CHRISTIAN AND HAVE TO STAND

UP.

PAT: YES.

WHAT IS HAPPENING IN GERMANY, IS

ISLAM ENCROACHING?

IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD BE.

REALLY.

IT BECAME FAST INTO LAST YEAR.

PAT: YOU WENT INTO A CHURCH.

THAT WAS WHAT WAS HAPPENING, AN

INTERFAITH SERVICE WITH AN IMAM

LEADING THE SERVICE.

HE DIDN'T LEAD IT.

THEY INVITED HIM TO BE A PART OF

THE CONCERT.

A REAL ISLAM IMAM WHICH MEANS HE

IS A TEACHER OF ISLAM.

PAT: YOU USE THOSE GREAT

WORDS OF MARTIN LUTHER, I CAN'T

BE PERSUADED, DID YOU SAY THOSE

WORDS SPECIFICALLY?

I SAID THEM.

I READ THEM SOME MINUTES BEFORE.

THEY CAME TO MY MIND.

I KNOW IT WASN'T BY ACCIDENT.

PAT: WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD FROM

YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS?

YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF PUBLICITY?

IT WAS STRANGE.

OUT OF THE WORLD, I GOT E-MAILS

AND ENCOURAGEMENTS.

ALSO FROM MY FELLOW BELIEVERS IN

GERMANY.

PAT: HOW STRONG IS THE CHURCH

IN GERMANY?

[LAUGHTER] DIFFICULT

QUESTION.

OUT OF MY POINT OF VIEW, THE

CHURCH IS WEAK.

WE ARE DOING SOME THINGS,

ESPECIALLY ON THE SEVENTH OF

MAY, WE ARE DOING INTERNATIONAL

JESUS MARCH THROUGH FRANKFORT IT

WILL BE THE SEVENTH TIME.

COME WITH US ON THE 17TH OF MAY

TO SHOW JESUS IS STRONG IN THE

STREETS OF FRANKFORT, GOD CALLS

ME TO HAVE A PRECHRISTIAN

UNIVERSITY IN GERMANY.

I AM STILL LOOKING FOR PARTNERS

TO TRAIN STRONG CHRISTIAN

LEADERS IN GERMANY.

ALSO A LICK OF CHRISTIAN

TEACHERS.

AND, PAT [LAUGHTER] --

PAT: YES.

WE WILL START A NEW PROGRAM,

A RADIO PROGRAM TO SPREAD THE

GOSPEL BECAUSE THE PEOPLE IN

GERMANY NEED THE WORD OF GOD.

THEY NEED IT.

WE NEED A SPIRITUAL REBIRTH OF

GERMANY.

PAT: THIS WAS THE HOME OF

MARTIN LUTHER.

THIS WAS THE HOME OF ONE OF THE

GREAT THEOLOGICAL UNIVERSITIES

IN THE WORLD.

YOU HAD A TRADITION THAT GOES

WAY BACK.

WHAT HAPPENED?

DID HITLER OBLITERATE THAT?

WHERE DID THE FAITH GO?

I THINK SEVERAL, SEVERAL

POINTS CAME TOGETHER.

EXCUSE ME, I THINK ALSO

INCLUDING THE AMERICANS, THEY

HAVE TO SORRY, FORGIVE ME, WE

DON'T HAVE AN IDENTITY, THE

GERMANS, WE HAVE A LACK OF

IDENTITY.

WE ARE NOT PROUD OF OUR FLAG AND

THANKFUL FOR OUR LAND, OUR

LANGUAGE.

THIS IS A REAL LACK, BECAUSE

WHEN WE DON'T LOVE OUR COUNTRY,

WE WILL NOT PROTECT IT.

WE HAVE TO PROTECT IT AT THE

MOMENT.

THE CHRISTIANS HAVE TO STAND UP.

ALSO THE OTHERS HAVE TO

RECOGNIZE WHAT HAPPENS, IF WE

DON'T REALIZE IT AND RECOGNIZE

IT IN THE MOMENT, WE WILL LOSE

IT.

PAT: FORMER PRIME MINISTER

SCHROEDER WAS A BUDDY OF THE

RUSSIANS.

LOOKS LIKE PUTIN IS USING GAS TO

MANIPULATE EUROPE.

ANY THOUGHTS OF WHAT IS GOING ON

IN UKRAINE?

I GREW UP IN EAST GERMANY.

I DON'T TRUST HIM.

I ALSO DON'T TRUST THE EUROPEAN

UNION.

THEY PLAY A GAME.

WE ARE IN THE MIDST OF THEM.

WHEN WE SEE THE EUROPEAN

COUNTRIES, WE SEE EVERYWHERE THE

SAME.

PEOPLE FROM THE LEFT CORNER,

THEY WANT TO TAKE OVER INCLUDING

ISLAM.

THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

I HAD JUST BEFORE I CAME TO

THESE MINUTES, I HAD A SONG ON

MY HARD.

AN ARMY IS RISING UP TO BREAK

EVERY CHAIN.

THIS IS THE MAIN THIN.

WE ARE CHRISTIANS, WE HAVE TO

STAND UP FOR THE RIGHTS, FOR

TRUTH, FOR THE WORD OF GOD FOR

JESUS CHRIST.

THIS IS THE ANSWER.

YOU KNOW, PAT, THAT WE ARE THE

LIGHT.

WE ARE THE SALT OF THIS EARTH.

PAT: YOU ARE A VERY BRAVE

WOMAN.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

I THINK THE WHOLE CHRISTIAN

WORLD APPLAUDS YOU.

WE, OUR PRAYERS ARE WITH YOU,

GOD BLESS YOU.

THANK YOU, PAT.

PAT: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

ONE COURAGEOUS PERSON, MARTIN

LUTHER HUNG UP THESIS AND SAID

HERE I STAND.

THIS LADY HEIDI IS STANDING.

STAND WITH HER, TERRY?

TERRY: UP NEXT, AMERICA'S

PHARMACIST, SUZY COHEN IS HERE

TO HELP THE HEADACHES GO AWAY

WITHOUT A PRESCRIPTION.

SUZY JOINS US WHEN WE COME BACK.

PAT: MIGRAINES, THAT IS WHAT

SUZY COHEN CALLS TRIGGERS THAT

SET OFF MIND BLOWING HEADACHES.

HOW TO AVOID THE TRIGGERS

WITHOUT MEDICINE.

TAKE A LOOK.

BEST SELLING AUTHOR AND

PHARMACIST SUZY COHEN HAS SEEN

HEADACHES OF EVERY KIND UP

CLOSE.

HER HUSBAND SAM, SUFFERED SO

MUCH, HE HAD TO RETIRE AS A

CHIROPRACT

CHIROPRACTOR.

IT HAS TAKEN HER A DECADE TO

ALLEVIATE HEADACHES IN HER BOOK.

PAT: SHE IS MY FAVORITE

PHARMACIST AND WRITTEN "HEADACHE

FREE."

I LOVE THE LAST ONE ABOUT ALL

THE TERRIBLE THINGS, THE THIEVES

OR THE THEFTS.

DRUG MOUNGERS.

IT AFFECTS MILLIONS.

MOST UNDERSTAND THE HEADACHE IS

SOMETHING YOU TAKE PAIN RELIEVER

FOR.

VERY DIFFICULT TO TREAT.

THE MEDICATIONS WE USE FOR THEM

DON'T HELP THE UNDERLYING CAUSE

WHICH WE ARE NOW LEARNING HAS TO

DO WITH MOTORS OR BATTERIES DEEP

INSIDE THE CELL.

IT IS NOT ABOUT THE BLOOD

VESSELS.

PAT: WHAT IS A MIGRAINE?

YOUR TECHNICAL DEFINITION?

YOUR MIGRAINE HAS A

NEUROLOGICAL COMPONENT.

IT HAS AN EFFECT IT CAN MAKE YOU

SENSITIVE TO SMELLS AND SOUNDS,

SOME PEOPLE SEE A HALO OR

FLASHING LIGHT.

SOME PEOPLE THROW UP.

IT CAN GO ON FOR DAYS.

HOURS FOR THE BIG PART BUT WILL

HAVE THE RESIDUAL PAIN.

PAT: YOU WOULD TAKE AN ADVIL

OR EXTRA STRENGTH EXCEDRIN,

THOSE THINGS HAVE A REVERSE

EFFECT.

IN SOME PEOPLE.

JUST RELIEVING THE PAIN

TEMPORARILY DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.

I ALWAYS ADVISE PEOPLE TO FIND

THE UNDERLYING CAUSE, FIND YOUR

MIGRAINEADE.

PAT: WHAT ARE SOME OF THEM?

DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE.

FOR SOME PEOPLE IT COULD BE GUM.

MOST GUM CONTAINS ARTIFICIAL

SWEETENERS, AND COLORS.

PAT: ASPARTAME CAN DEFINITELY

DO IT.

I AM AN ENEMY IN EVERY KIND.

ME, TOO.

PERFUME, 76% OF MIGRAINE

SUFFERERS WILL REACT TO PERFUME

WITHIN A HALF AN HOUR.

IT IS A NIGHTMARE IF YOU ARE A

MIGRAINE SUFFERER.

DRIED FRUIT.

IT CONTAINS SULFITE.

PAT: THAT IS TERRIBLE.

HERE IS A NICE SANDWICH.

DOUBLE TROUBLE ON THE

SANDWICH, DELI MEAT CAN CONTAIN

NITRITES.

BREAD HAS GLUTEN.

GLUTEN HAS POTENT NEUROLOGICAL

EFFECTS ON THE BODY.

PAT: NITRATES, HOT DOGS, THEY

ALL CAUSE?

IN SOME INDIVIDUALS.

JUST ELIMINATING THESE FROM YOUR

DIET, LAST IS SALAD DRESSING AND

BARBECUE SAUCE.

VINEGAR IS A MIGRAINEADE BECAUSE

IT RAISES HISTAMINE LEVELS.

WE ASSOCIATE IT WITH RUNY NOSE.

PAT: I THOUGHT VINEGAR WAS

GOOD FOR YOU.

NOT IF YOU ARE A MIGRAINE

SUFFERER.

PAT: THESE ARE THE GOOD

THINGS TO MY LEFT.

I LOVE SIMPLE.

SO A GLASS OF WATER.

IT IS SO SIMPLE, CHEAP.

PURE FILTERED WATER.

DEHYDRATION IS A KNOWN

MIGRAINEADE.

YOUR BLOOD VOLUME DROPS, THAT

REDUCES FLOW OF OXYGEN.

PAT: HOW MUCH WATER SHOULD

YOU DRINK?

SEVERAL FULL GLASSES, PURE

AND FILTERED.

PAT: I FILTER WATER.

WE DO, TOO.

PAT: WHY IS THAT, BY THE WAY?

PULLING OUT THE HEAVY METALS

AND TOXINS.

I AM NOT A BIG PROPONENT OF

FLUORIDE.

IT CAN ATTACK YOUR THYROID.

FROM YOUR TOOTH PASTE OR TAP

WATER.

LOW THYROID CAN CAUSE MIGRAINES.

50% OF MIGRAINE SUFFERERS ARE

DEFICIENT IN MAGNESIUM.

WHEN YOU SUPPLEMENT YOU RELAX

TENSE MUSCLES, FEED AND PROTECT

THE CELLS AND REDUCES YOUR

INCIDENCE OF NOT JUST PAIN.

[LAUGHTER].

PAT: LET'S MAKE THAT CLEAR.

HOW MUCH MAGNESIUM?

I WOULD 400-600 MILLION GRAMS

OF A DAILY DOSE.

I KNOW OUR VIEWERS ARE THINKING

MAGNESIUM CAUSES DIARRHEA.

THIS HAS MAGNESIUM MALLGINANT.

PAT: WHAT ARE THE OTHER

THINGS?

NEXT SUPPLEMENT IS

RIBOFLAVIN, VITAMIN B2.

IT IS A NATURAL DYE.

PAT: SHORTAGE OF B2, IT CAN

CAUSE CRACKS IN THE MOUTH.

YOU ARE SO SMART YOU KNOW

THAT.

[LAUGHTER].

THEY DON'T KNOW IT CAN HAPPEN

BY FEEDING AND NURTURING THE

MOTORS, BATTERIES THAT PRODUCE

ATP.

RIBOFLAVIN CAN REDUCE FREQUENCY

OF MIGRAINES, IT CAN REDUCE THE

FREQUENCY AND STUDIES HAVE SHOWN

THAT.

NEXT SUPPLEMENT IS COURSETON,

RELATED TO VITAMIN C.

IT IS A NATURAL ANT HISTAMINE.

PAT: I TAKE THE RIBOFLAVIN

COMPLEX.

IF YOU HAVE MIGRAINES, TAKE A

LITTLE MORE.

PAT: I DON'T HAVE HEADACHES

AT ALL.

LUCKY YOU.

THEY ARE DEVASTATING.

WHEN MY HUSBAND HAD IT, IT

CHANGED OUR LIVES.

PAT: IN YOUR BOOK, YOUR

HUSBAND WAS SUFFERING, HE HAD TO

STOP HIS PRACTICE, TURNED OUT HE

HAD LIME DISEASE.

FOR HIM HIS HEADACHES WERE

TIED TO A TICK BITE.

UNTIL WE TREATED HIS INFECTION,

THE HEADACHES WOULDN'T STOP.

WE TRIED EVERYTHING,

PAINKILLERS, EVERYTHING OUTSIDE

THE BOX TREATMENT, ACUPUNCTURE,

EVERYTHING.

NOTHING REALLY CLEARED IT UNTIL

WE ADDRESSED THE INFECTION WHICH

IS AN UNDERLYING CAUSE.

LIME DISEASE IS RATHER EPIDEMIC.

IT IS HARD TO DIAGNOSE.

PAT: IT IS UNBELIEVABLE.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A YARD SPRAYED.

DEER COME IN.

THEY HAVE TICKS.

WE SO LOVINGLY SPRAY OUR

PETS?

THEY'LL JUMP OFF THE PET AND

WHERE DO THEY GO?

US.

[LAUGHTER].

IT IS VERY COMMON.

THEN LAST ON MY LIST IS A FIBER

SCRIPT.

A SUPPLEMENT I FORMULATED.

I MADE THAT.

IT PROTECTS THYROID GLAND FROM

GLUTEN AND DAIRY.

WHEN YOU OPTIMIZE YOUR THYROID

LEVELS, MIGRAINES WILL

DISSIPATE.

PAT: WHAT ABOUT GLUTEN

SENSITIVITY IS A BIG DEAL IN

MAKING PEOPLE FAT, SICK?

IT CAN.

GLUTEN CAN EFFECT PEOPLE WHETHER

THEY HAVE CELIAC OR NOT.

IT IS SOME WHAT ADDICTIVE.

IT IS JUST GLUE.

I OFTEN SUGGEST FOR PEOPLE TO GO

GLUTEN FREE, AND COMPLETELY

GRAIN AND DAIRY FREE.

THEIR LIFE CAN CHANGE.

PAT: WHAT ELSE IS LEFT?

PAPER.

PAPER AND WATER.

[LAUGHTER].

HONESTLY, CLEAN GRASS FED MEAT

AND NUTS AND SEEDS.

IT IS AN ADDITIVE.

WE HAVE TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY

LIKE MSG.

PAT: I STOPPED EATING AT

OLIVE GARDEN, BECAUSE I AM SURE

THEY PUT MSG IN THE FOOD, YOU

FEEL DIZZY AND SLEEPY.

I WOULD AVOID THE BREAD AND

THE SAUCE, YUMMY DELICIOUS.

I DON'T EAT THE PASTA.

PAT: DON'T THEY PUT MSG IN

THE FOOD?

YOU'LL FIND IT IN CHINESE

FOOD UNLESS THEY DON'T INCLUDE

IT.

MSG IS ANOTHER MIGRAINEADE.

WHAT OUR VIEWERS CAN DO IS ONE

HAVE HOPE, IF SAM COULD DO IT

AFTER YEARS OF SUFFERING.

HE HAS LIVED HEADACHE FREE FOR

SEVEN YEARS.

HE ONLY GETS ONE WHEN I NAG HIM.

[LAUGHTER].

PAT: A NAGGING WIFE IS ONE OF

THOSE MICRO TRIGGERS.

I AM A MIGRAINEADE.

PAT: WE SHOWED SOUP AND

PROGRESSIVE, WE PUT THE LABELS

ON MSG.

ALL THE SUDDEN THEY BEGAN

ADVERTISING.

PEOPLE PROBABLY AVOIDED THEIR

SOUP.

DISCOVERING YOUR MIGRAINEADE IS

HUGE.

PAT: WHAT ABOUT THIS GLUTEN

STUFF?

MOST BREADS HAVE GLUTEN.

VERY, VERY HARD TO FIND GLUTEN

FREE BREAD IN RESTAURANT OUT

BACK AND CABARABS HAVE SOME.

I PUT THEM IN MY PURSE.

PAT: DO THE MANUFACTURERS

UNDERSTAND WHAT ELSE DOES THIS

CAUSE?

NOT JUST HEADACHES?

IT CAN CAUSE ALL KINDS OF

NEUROLOGICAL DISTURBS --

DISTURBANCES, UNNORMAL GATE.

STUMBLING INTO THINGS.

PROBIOTICS WILL NOT OFFSET THE

GLUTEN.

GO OFF THE GLUTEN AND DAIRY,

TAKE PROBIOTICS AND ENZYMES.

PAT: YOU ARE TALKING CHEESE,

MILK?

WANT ME TO LEAVE NOW?

SO SORRY.

PAT: SWISS IS GOING TO RISE

UP AGAINST YOU.

SINUS HEADACHES, GO DAIRY

FREE.

PAT: IT IS MORE SCIENTIFIC

THAN THE OTHER BOOK.

YOU HAVE HAD A LOT OF SCIENCE.

THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT

UP.

IT IS A COMPLEX BOOK.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND A LOT

OF BOOKS ON AMAZON THAT ADDRESS

HEADACHES.

THEY HAVE TO COME TO MY WEBSITE.

SUZY COHEN.COM.

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO FIND A LOT

OF BOOKS ON HEADACHES.

THEY ARE HARD TO TACKLE, THE --

THEY AREN'T ALWAYS TO DO WITH A

CHANGE IN BRAIN CHEMISTRY, NOT

ALWAYS TO DO WITH A CHANGE OF

BLOOD VESSELS AROUND THE HEAD.

IT GOES MUCH DEEPER INTO THE

MITOCHONDRIA, THOSE ARE SICK AND

DYING BECAUSE OF MIGRAINEADE.

WHEN YOU CLEAR IT UP, BATTERIES

OF THE CELL WILL GET HEALTHY.

PAT: MITOCHONDRIA WILL BE

RESET BECAUSE OF THIS?

YES.

PAT: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT

IS AN INTERESTING BOOK.

IF YOU HAVE THESE PROBLEMS,

LYING ON THE SOFA WITH A COLD

COMPRESS.

THEY ARE SOLD OUT ON AMAZON.

I SOLD OUT.

LEAVE ME A NICE REVIEW.

THIS GOES AGAINST THE MEDICAL

SYSTEM.

THEY WANT TO PRESCRIBE ADDICTIVE

ANALGESICS.

I AM SAYING THAT IS NOT THE

ANSWER.

PAT: YOU ARE TERRIFIC.

SUZY COHEN, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN.

SO POPULAR AND SOLD OUT ON

AMAZON.

I AM SURE AMAZON IS GOING TO

RESTOCK BECAUSE THEY LIKE THE

MAKE THE MONEY.

THAT IS TRUE.

THEY TAKE A BIG CHUNK.

PAT: ALL RIGHT.

TERRY?

TERRY: YOUR E-MAIL

QUESTIONS, PAULA SAYS MY HUSBAND

WALKED OUT ON ME AND OUR TWO

CHILDREN 13 YEARS AGO.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING AND TRUSTING

GOD TO BRING THE RIGHT MAN INTO

OUR LIVES, ANY ADVISE FOR A

LONELY AND DISCOURAGED LADY?

WHAT PAT HAS TO SAY NEXT.

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TERRY: THIS IS PAULA, MY

HUSBAND WALKED OUT ON ME AND OUR

TWO CHILDREN 13 YEARS AGO.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING AND TRUSTING

GOD TO BRING THE RIGHT MAN INTO

OUR LIVES.

AFTER ALL THIS TIME, I AM

WORRIED I MISSED GOD AND OUR

BEST YEARS ARE BEHIND ME, ANY

WORDS FOR A LONELY AND

DISCOURAGED LADY?

PAT: THE BEST YEARS AREN'T

BEHIND YOU.

IF YOU WANT A FISH, GO WHERE THE

FISH ARE.

TERRY: VERY BIBLICAL.

GO TO THE SAHARAN DESERT, YOU

WON'T GET A FISH.

THERE ARE CHURCH GROUPS AND

OTHER PLACES, ORGANIZED MIXES

WHERE PEOPLE SHARE YOUR POINT OF

VIEW AND FAITH.

GOD HAS SOMEBODY FOR YOU.

TERRY: THIS IS NATE, IN THE

BIBLICAL ACCOUNT, THEY SOLD THE

PROPERTY, THEY KEPT MONEY FOR

THEMSELVES.

PETER SAYS THEY LIEED TO THE

HOLY SPIRIT, BOTH DIED.

LATER WHEN SIMON SAW THE SPIRIT

WAS GIVEN AT THE LAYING ON OF

THE APOSTLES' HANDS.

HE DIDN'T DIE.

SIMON WASN'T A DISCIPLE.

AT THE INCEPTION OF THE CHURCH,

THAT IS THE BEGINNING OF THE

CHURCH.

IMPURITY COME INTO THE BEGINNING

WILL SPREAD LIKE A CANCER.

LATER ON WHEN THE CHURCH IS

FORMED AND OPERATING AND RUN

INTO A FORTUNE TELLER.

THAT IS A DIFFERENT MATTER.

THE HARSHNESS CAME SO THE EARLY

CHRISTIANS KNOW YOU CANNOT LIE

TO THE HOLY SPIRIT.

YOU CANNOT USE DECEPTION IN THE

VERY BEGINNING OF THIS CHURCH,

IT CAN'T HAVE THAT EVIL SPIRIT.

IT SEEMED HARSH.

HE DROPPED DEAD.

PETER USED THE STATEMENT, FEET

OF THOSE WHO CARRIED YOUR

HUSBAND OUT ARE AT THE DOOR

WAITING FOR YOUR, BANG.

THEY HAD A CHANCE.

TERRY: THEY LIED, SIMON WAS

READY TO PAY FOR IT IF HE COULD

GET IT.

PAT: THAT'S RIGHT.

TERRY: THERE WAS A DECEPTION

TO GOD.

AMANDA SAYS I WAS WONDERING IF

THE -- IN THE MIDDLE EAST HAVE

ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT IS

GOING ON?

PAT: IT IS BIBLICAL, IT IS IN

REVOLUTION.

ISRAEL HAS A TIME CLOCK.

CHAOS IN THE MIDDLE EAST WOULD

BE AGAINST ISRAEL FULFILLING

PROPHESY AND NOT NECESSARILY

EVERY WORD IN REVELATION, BUT IN

TERMS OF PROPHESIES LIKE

ZECHARIAH AND OTHERS.

THERE IS NO DOUBT THE NATIONS OF

THE EARTH ARE JOINING AGAINST

ISRAEL AND BIBLICAL WHAT IS

HAPPENING IS SETTING UP GOD'S

PLAN AND PURPOSES.

TERRY: I KNOW DOCTORS ARE

PART OF GOD'S HEALING MIRACLES,

I HAVE BEEN TRUSTING GOD FOR

HEALING IN MY HIP.

I AM 69 YEARS OLD.

I NEED A CREATIVE MIRACLE.

I HAVE HAD SEVERAL DREAMS ABOUT

BEING ABLE TO WALK.

THE PAIN INTERFERES WITH MY

FAITH.

DO YOU HAVE INSIGHT?

PAT: YOU KNOW, YOU SAID GOD

USES DOCTORS, HE DOES.

I HAD A DETERIORATING KNEE, SO

BAD I COULD HARDLY WALK.

I HAD BEEN JOGGING A LONG TIME

AND HIP JOINTS ARE A SAME THING,

IT IS A JOINT.

YOU ARE ASKING FOR A CREATIVE

MIRACLE.

YOU ARE ASKING GOD TO REFORM

THAT.

I WENT TO A MAN IN CHICAGO

RICHARD BURGER.

HE IS ABSOLUTELY THE FINEST KNEE

AND HIP MAN IN THE COUNTRY, I

THINK.

HE IS INCREDIBLE.

WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING.

VERY SKILLED.

HE COULD GIVE YOU A NEW HIP

JOINT IN A MATTER OF AN HOUR OR

SO.

FOR ME, I WAS WALKING UP STAIRS

WITH MY NEW KNEE.

TERRY: THEY GET YOU RIGHT

UP.

PAT: USED TO TAKE FIVE OR SIX

MONTHS, I WAS RIDING A HORSE

SEVEN DAYS AFTER SURGERY.

TERRY: WOW.

PAT: THEY CAN DO THAT.

WHY SUFFER?

YOU HAVE A LOT OF LIFE AHEAD OF

YOU.

THAT IS ONE.

OTHERS WHO DO THIS KIND OF WORK.

HE PROBABLY IS AS GOOD AS THEY

COME.

RICHARD BURGER.

HE IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET

PATIENTS HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO

DO WITH.

HE IS A WONDERFUL MAN AND

EXTREMELY SKILLED.

TERRY: THAT IS ALL THE TIME

WE HAVE FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.

ASHLEY CLEVELAND HAS PERFORMED

WITH JOE COCKER, AND STEVE

WINDWOOD.

FOR MANY YEARS, ASHLEY FELT LIKE

THE BLACK SHEEP OF HER FAMILY.

THREE TIME GRAMMY AWARD

WINNER, ASHLEY CLEVELAND, HER

LATEST PROJECT ISN'T SET TO

MUSIC, HER BOOK "LITTLE BLACK

SHEEP"

WHEN SHE WAS IN KINDERGARTEN,

HER PARENTS DIVORCED.

WHEN MY FATHER LEFT, THEIR

LAST ALTERCATION WAS OVER

SOMETHING I HAD DONE JUST

MISCHIEF.

WHEN HE LEFT, HE NEVER CAME

BACK.

ASHLEY'S VIEW OF GOD BROUGHT

HER NO COMFORT.

HE WAS FAIRLY DISTANT AND

EXTREMELY PERFORMANCE ORIENTED.

IN HER TEENS, ASHLEY TRIED TO

BURY HER INSECURITIES WITH

REBELLION.

I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BEING

GOOD, I CAN BE EXCELLENT AT

BEING BAD.

EVENTUALLY, ALCOHOL STARTED

TO APPEAL TO ASHLEY.

I DO NOT REMEMBER MY FIRST

DRINK.

I CLEARLY REMEMBER THE FEELING.

SO MUCH OF THE FEARFULNESS AND

AWKWARDNESS ABOUT THE WAY I WAS

BOTH OUTWARDLY AND INWARDLY

DISAPPEARED.

BY HER MID 20S, ASHLEY WAS A

FULL-FLEDGED ALCOHOL AND DRUG

USER.

I WOULD GO FOR A WHILE,

MANAGE IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND

EVENTUALLY, INEVITABLY I WOULD

GO WAY TOO FAR AND DOMINOS WOULD

FALL IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND

THE CYCLE WOULD BEGIN AGAIN.

HER LIFE STYLE CAME TO A

HALT.

WHEN SHE WAS 24 YEARS OLD, SHE

DISCOVERED SHE WAS PREGNANT.

I DECIDED TO COBBLE TOGETHER

SOME SORT OF A SOBRIETY.

I STILL HAD HORRIBLE -- I KNEW I

COULD DO DAMAGE TO THE FETUS.

ALL THE FEARS I HAD ABOUT WHAT

GOD MIGHT THINK OF ME AND HOW HE

MIGHT REACT TO ME WERE VERY

PRESENT FOR ME.

NINE MONTHS LATER, ASHLEY

DELIVERED A PERFECTLY HEALTHY

BABY GIRL.

THERE ARE MOMENTS I

ENCOUNTERED WITH GOD SO PALABLE

AND DEEP THAT THE MOLECULES

CHANGE.

IT WAS LIKE THE SPIRIT OF THE

LORD INHABITED THAT ROOM AND

PULLED BACK THIS INVISIBLE

CURTAIN AND SAID TO ME, I AM NOT

WHO YOU THINK I AM.

AND I THOUGHT, BOY, NO KIDDING.

BUT IN THAT MOMENT, I KNEW ONE

THING, THAT ONE THING CHANGED

EVERYTHING.

I KNEW HE LOVED ME.

THAT WAS REALLY THE BEGINNING OF

FAITH.

LITTLE BY LITTLE SHE

COMFORTED HER ADDICTION WITH THE

HELP OF PROGRAMS AND HER NEW

FAITH.

GOD GAVE HER THE ONE INGREDIENT

TO KEEP HER MOVING FORWARD.

FIRST THING THAT HAPPENED

THAT IS THE FOUNDATION OF

EVERYTHING WAS THE WILLINGNESS

THAT I ASKED FOR.

GOD GAVE ME.

IT WASN'T JUST A WILLINGNESS TO

GIVE HIM THE DRINK, IT WAS THE

WILLINGNESS TO NOT BE IN CHARGE

OF MY OWN LIFE.

NOT ONCE DID I LIVE THAT INITIAL

FEELING THAT I HAD IN THE

HOSPITAL THAT THERE WAS A GOD

THAT HE KNEW MY NAME AND LOVED

ME.

TODAY ASHLEY HAS BEEN SOBER

OVER 15 YEARS.

SHE IS MARRIED TO GUITARIST

KENNY BERG AND HAD THREE

CHILDREN.

I WOULD SAY COME TO JESUS.

IF YOU COME TO CHRIST, REALLY,

YOU CAN'T COME AND NOT BE

CHANGED.

TERRY: ASHLEY IS TALKING

ABOUT SURRENDER IN HER LIFE.

LETTING GO OF HAVING TO CONTROL

HER LIFE AND CIRCUMSTANCES.

SHE IS ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE

LOVE OF A FATHER BEYOND ANYTHING

YOU COULD ASK FOR OR IMAGINE.

NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE IN LIFE,

NO MATTER WHAT YOU SURRENDERED

YOURSELF TO OR WHAT HAS WOUNDED

YOUR HEART, THERE IS ALWAYS

HOPE.

JESUS LOVES YOU BEYOND WHAT YOU

CAN ASK OR IMAGINE.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRAY WITH

SOMEONE, THERE IS A NUMBER TO

CALL, 1-800-759-0700.

CALL TODAY.

SAY I WOULD LIKE TO PRAY THE

SAME PRAYER ASHLEY PRAYED.

ASK FOR THIS BROCHURE CALLED

"FREE IN DEED."

THIS TALKS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN BE

SET FREE.

CALL NOW.

PAT?

PAT: MARVELOUS.

MARVELOUS.

WELL, WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S

POWER MINUTE FROM PSALM 145: HE

WILL FULFILL THE DESIRE OF THOSE

WHO FEAR HIM.

HE ALSO WILL HEAR THEIR CRY AND

SAVE THEM.

THE LORD PRESERVES ALL WHO LOVE

HIM.

WHAT A GREAT PROMISE.

TOMORROW SCOTT ROSS TAKES YOU

BEHIND THE SCENES OF "AMERICAN

IDOL" WITH HARRY CONICK

JR. DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT ONE,

BYE-BYE.

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