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700 Club Interactive: Ordinary to Extraordinary - April 14, 2014

Author and pastor of Catch the Fire ministry Duncan Smith shares how we all can be one with God. Read Transcript


HE'S BEEN CALLED A REBEL,

BUT THIS MAN HAS A CAUSE.

I THINK, HONESTLY,

GORDON, THE SECRET IS

JESUS.

Gordon: A LOT OF PEOPLE

HEAR THAT AND IMMEDIATELY

SHUT DOWN.

I KNOW.

I KNOW.

Gordon: WHY DUNCAN

SMITH SAYS YOU CAN LIVE AN

EXTRAORDINARY LIFE ON

TODAY'S "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

ON "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE,"

WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY

FOR EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE

TOPICS THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

WELL, WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN YOU'RE

LIFE GETS BORING.

YOU TRY TO FIND A NEW

HOBBY?

DO YOU TRY TO FIND A NEW

JOB?

DO YOU PACK UP AND TRY TO

START A NEW LIFE IN A NEW

CITY?

THE FACT IS BOREDOM IS BEING

CALLED THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL,

AND MANY OF US ARE LOOKING

FOR WAYS TO BREAK OUT OF THE

RUT.

TAKE A LOOK.

EVERYTHING IS FINE.

IT'S OKAY.

MY LIFE IS ORDINARY.

BUT IT IS DOABLE.

I GET BY.

I'M SURVIVING.

BUT IT'S STALE.

SOMETIMES SOMETHING IN ME

WONDERS, AM I FOCUSING ON

THE RIGHT THINGS.

CAN I MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

IS THERE MORE?

Gordon: WELL, TO ANSWER

THAT QUESTION AND MORE,

WE'RE JOINED BY MY DEAR

FRIEND, DUNCAN SMITH.

IT IS GREAT TO HAVE YOU

HERE.

YOU HAVE A NEW BOOK OUT,

"CONSUMED BY LOVE."

MY WIFE LOVES THIS,

KATHRYN.

THEY IS REALLY INTO IT.

REALLY, GORDON?

Gordon: IT'S

INCREDIBLE.

YOU ARE ANYTHING BUT LIVING

AN ORDINARY LIFE.

AND YOU'RE DEFINITELY NOT

STUCK IN A RUT.

WHAT'S THE SECRET FOR YOUR

LIFE OF ADVENTURE.

I THINK, HONESTLY,

GORDON, THE SECRET IS

JESUS.

Gordon: A LOT OF PEOPLE

HEAR THAT AND JUST

IMMEDIATELY SHUT DOWN.

I KNOW.

I KNOW THEY WOULD.

Gordon: AND THEY GO,

NAH.

I KNOW.

BUT I TRIED EVERYTHING.

I GREW UP KNOWING, YOU KNOW,

RIGHT AND WRONG FROM A

CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE.

Gordon: YOU GREW UP IN

A MISSIONARY AREA.

YEAH.

I WAS BORN IN NIGERIA AND

GREW UP THERE.

Gordon: WHICH HAD TO BE

EXCITING.

IT WAS INCREDIBLY

EXCITING.

I LOVED GROWING UP IN

AFRICA.

I LOVED ALL OF THE

ADVENTURES THAT WERE

AFFORDED FOR US, YOU KNOW.

WE LIVED IN SOME INCREDIBLE

PLACES.

Gordon: AND YOUR FLUENT

IN HOWSA.

I'M FLUID IN HOWSA, AND I

CAN STILL SPEAK IT.

[SPEAKING A

FOREIGN LANGUAGE]

BUT I REALLY REBELLED

AGAINST EVERYTHING MY

PARENTS HAD BROUGHT ME UP

IN.

Gordon: WHY?

BECAUSE I FOUND CHURCHES

SMELLED MUSTY, AND TO BE

HONEST, A LOT OF THE

CHRISTIANS, ESPECIALLY THE

MISSIONARIES, SMELLED EVEN

MORE MUSTY.

Gordon: HERE YOU ARE IN

THE MISSION FIELD.

AND YOU'RE GOING TO TRIPLE

AREAS OF NIGERIA.

THAT'S TRUE.

Gordon: TALK ABOUT

CROSS-CULTURAL EXCITING.

THAT'S IT.

IT SHOULD BE.

AND BACK IN THE DAY, IT

PERHAPS WAS.

BUT FOR ME, AS A YOUNG

15-YEAR-OLD, 16-YEAR-OLD, I

WANTED EXCITEMENT IN MY

LIFE.

AND I COULDN'T SEE

EXCITEMENT IN THE CHURCH.

IT JUST LOOKED LIKE A VERY

BORING, YOU KNOW,

EXPERIENCE.

AND, OF COURSE, IT IS

BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THE

PERSON OF JESUS.

I KNEW AND UNDERSTOOD

CHRISTIANITY, PER SE, AND

WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE, WE

MISSIONARY PARENTS AND MY

PARENTS WANTING ME TO READ

MY BIBLE AND PRAY AND HAVE

MY QUIET TIME, AND ALL OF

THAT.

Gordon: THEY MUST HAVE

HAD SOME KIND OF SEAL.

ZEAL.

YOU DON'T GO TO THE MISSION

FIELD WITHOUT IT.

OH, NO, MY PARENTS HAD

THE ZEAL.

BUT ME, AS A YOUNG MAN,

DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT

ZEAL.

MY PARENTS SENT ME TO

BOARDING SCHOOL IN ENGLAND.

Gordon: I BET YOU

DIDN'T LIKE THAT?

I DIDN'T LIKE THAT.

AND I DIDN'T LIKE BEING AWAY

FROM MOM AND DAD.

AND I GUESS I REBELLED

AGAINST THEM FOR THAT.

JUST REJECTING THEM FOR

SENDING ME TO BOARDING

SCHOOL AND JUST -- YOU KNOW,

I WAS USING THAT AS AN

EXCUSE TO BLAME THEM FOR THE

THINGS THAT I DIDN'T LIKE

ABOUT MY LIFE.

BUT IT GAVE ME THE PERFECT

EXCUSE TO JUSTIFY MY BAD

BEHAVIOR.

Gordon: I IMAGINE THE

CHRISTIANITY YOU WERE

EXPOSED TO AT BOARDING

SCHOOL WAS RULES AND

REGULATIONS?

VERY MUCH RULES AND

REGULATIONS.

IT WAS HIGH CHURCH, AND

BELLS AND SMELLS AND ALL OF

THAT, AND CHOIR BOYS AND SO

ON.

I WOULD JUST SIT THERE BORED

OUT OF MY BRAINS.

BUT I DISCOVERED THAT THE

KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, AND JESUS

IS ANYTHING BUT BORING.

THAT FORM OF CHRISTIANITY

MIGHT HAVE BEEN BORING IN MY

LANDS, BUT ONCE I --

Gordon: YOU LET THAT

WORD JUST SORT OF SLIDE ON

BY.

CHURCHIANITY IS WHAT

CHILDREN HAVE GROWN UP.

IT IS NOT AN AUTHENTIC -- IT

IS A FORM AND A RITUAL ON

SUNDAY MORNING.

WHEN YOU PROPERLY PERFORM

THE RITUAL, THEN YOU'VE DONE

YOUR PART.

THAT'S RIGHT.

Gordon: BUT IT LACKS

MEANING IN YOUR DAY TO DAY

LIFE.

YES.

BECAUSE JESUS IS A PERSON.

I THINK IT IS KATHRYN.

THE HOLY SPIRIT IS MORE REAL

THAN ANY HUMAN BEING.

AND SO YOU'RI WAS CAUGHT UP

THINKING THAT CHRISTIANITY

WAS ABOUT GOING TO CHURCH.

BELIEVING IN JESUS SO YOU

COULD GET TO HEAVEN.

SORT OF LIKE HAVING YOUR

FIRE INSURANCE IN YOUR

POCKET SO YOU DIDN'T GO TO

HELL AT THE END OF YOUR

LIFE.

YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS, AND

YOU GO ABOUT YOUR LIFE AND

YOU GO TO CHURCH ON SUNDAYS

TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

I DISCOVERED TRUE

CHRISTIANITY, NOT

CHURCHIANITY, WHERE CHURCH

IS THE CENTER, BUT TRUE

CHRISTIANITY, WHERE JESUS IS

THE CENTER, IS THE MOST

EXTRAORDINARILY EXCITING

LIFE.

Gordon: WELL, IN YOUR

BOOK, "CONSUMED BY LOVE,"

YOU GO FURTHER THAN JUST

SAYING PUT JESUS AT THE

CENTER.

YEAH.

Gordon: YOU TALK ABOUT

ONENESS WITH HIM.

CORRECT.

Gordon: THAT WE

LITERALLY CAN BECOME ONE

WITH HIM.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

WHAT I MEAN BY THAT,

GORDON, IS THAT AT THE

CROSS, JESUS TOOK ALL -- HIS

MISSION WAS TO SO FULLY

BECOME ONE WITH US IN OUR

FALLEN STATE OF HUMANITY,

WHERE WE HAD BECOME ONE WITH

SIN, HE CAME TO RESCUE US BY

BECOMING ONE WITH US.

TAKING UPON HIMSELF ALL OF

OUR SIN AT THE CROSS.

AT THE CROSS IT WAS LIKE HE

WAS A GIGANTIC VACUUM

CLEANER, AND HIS PERFECT

LIFE WAS GIVEN.

HIS PERFECT LIFE DREW IN ALL

OF THE SIN OF EVERY HUMAN

BEING.

HE IS THE FIRST AND ONLY

PERFECT LIFE THAT HAS EVER

DIED AND PAID THE PENALTY OF

SIN, AS A PERFECT LIFE.

NOT AS A SIN-FILLED LIFE,

BUT A PERFECT LIFE.

AND ALL OF THE SIN OF THE

WORLD CAME INTO HIM AT THAT

MOMENT.

ALL OF YOUR SIN, ALL OF MY

SIN, ALL OF THE SIN OF THE

WHOLE WORLD.

EVERY SIN THAT HAS BEEN

COMMITTED FROM ADAM TO THE

LAST BABY THAT IS BORN,

JESUS SUCKED IT INTO

HIMSELF, LIKE A GIGANTIC

VACUUM CLEANER OF SIN.

I LOVE 2 CORINTHIANS: "HE

MADE HIM, WHO KNEW NO SIN,

THAT WE MIGHT BECOME THE

RIGHTEOUSNESS OF HIM."

BECAUSE JESUS CAN'T SEPARATE

THE SIN FROM THE SINNER,

PAUL SAYS WE ALL DIED WITH

HIM.

THAT WE WERE CRUCIFIED WITH

HIM.

BECAUSE AS HE TOOK OUR SIN

INTO HIMSELF, HE TOOK US

INTO HIMSELF AND LITERALLY

SWALLOWED US, FIGURATIVELY

SPEAKING, IN HIS DEATH,

BECAME ONE WITH US AND TOOK

US TO DEATH.

IN FACT, THAT WAS SO

POWERFUL AND SUCH A REALITY

THAT I BELIEVE THAT WHEN

JESUS SAID IT IS FINISHED,

IN THAT MOMENT, IT WAS

IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE FATHER TO

RAISE JESUS FROM THE DEAD

WITHOUT RAISING US FROM THE

DEAD WITH HIM.

WITHOUT RAISING ME AND YOU

AND ALL OF US SINNERS.

Gordon: IT DIDN'T STOP

AT THE CROSS.

NO, IT DIDN'T STOP AT THE

CROSS.

Gordon: IT IS A FINISH

OF THAT AGE, BUT THEN THERE

IS THE DAWN OF THE NEW AGE.

OF THE NEW AGE.

Gordon: AGAIN, IN YOUR

BOOK, YOU GET INTO FIERY

ONES, WHICH IS AN OLD

TESTAMENT WORD, THE SERAFIN

THAT SURROUNDED THE ARC OF

THE COVENANT.

I BELIEVE THE TRINITY

THEMSELVES, THE FATHER, THE

SON, AND THE HOLY SPIRIT,

THEY THEMSELVES ARE THE

FIERY ONES.

IF YOU LOOK AT EACH OF THE

FAMOUS PASSAGES WHERE I CAN,

IN REVELATION 1, WHERE JESUS

IS DESCRIBED IN HIS

GLORIFIED STATE, HE IS

DESCRIBED IN FIERY TERMS.

AND WHERE IN DANIEL 7, WHERE

THE FATHER SAYS THE ANCIENT

OF DAYS IS ON HIS THRONE,

AND WHEN S YOU SEE HOW THE

FATHER IS DESCRIBED IN THE

ANCIENT OF DAYS ON THAT

THRONE, HE IS DESCRIBED IN

INCREDIBLY FIERY TERMS.

AND THEN YOU HAVE EZEKIEL 8:

2, WHERE EZEKIEL ENCOUNTERS

THIS INCREDIBLY FIERY BEING,

WHO COMES UP TO HIM AS A MAN

OF FIRE.

AND IN HEBREW, IT IS A FIERY

FIGURE OR A MAN OF FIRE.

AND HE COMES UP AND HE

DESCRIBES HIM FROM HIS WAIST

UPWARDS.

HE IS LIKE POLISHED LIQUID

METAL, ALMOST, LIQUID BRONZE

OR AMBER.

AND FROM HIS LEGS, HIS WAIST

DOWNWARDS, IS FIRE.

AND THEN HE STRETCHES OUT

HIS HAND, WHICH IS FIRE, AND

PICKS EZEKIEL UP BY THE LOT

OF HIS HEAD.

AND YOU WOULD THINK IN THE

PRESENCE OF FIRE, THE FIRST

THING WOULD EVAPORATE IS

HAIR.

AND HE STRETCHES OUT THIS

FIERY BEING AND PICKS HIM

UP.

NOT ONLY DID HIS HAIR NOT

MELT AND FRAZZLE, BUT SUCH

STRENGTH IS IMPARTED INTO

HIS HAIR FOLLICLES, HE IS

ABLE TO LIFT THIS MAN UP

FROM HEAVEN TO EVERYONE BY

EARTH BY A LOCK OF HIS

HAIR.

THAT IS ONE OF THE ONLY AND

CLEAREST REVELATIONS AND

DEPICTIONS OF THE FORM THAT

THE HOLY SPIRIT HIMSELF

HAS.

HE IS NOT JUST WIND.

HE IS NOT JUST OIL.

HE IS NOT JUST WATER.

HE HAS FORM AND HE IS A VERY

FIERY BEING.

Gordon: AND THAT'S WHY

HE IS CALLED THE SPIRIT OF

FIRE.

EXACTLY.

AND WHAT GETS US EXCITED

ABOUT THAT AND MAKES US

FIERY ONES IN CHRIST, I HAVE

REALIZED THE REASON WHY GOD

IS REVEALED IN THESE FIERY

TERMS AND REVELATIONS, IS

BECAUSE -- AND IN REVELATION

4, THE FATHER IS DESCRIBED

AS BEING JASPER AND

CORNEALIAN, WHICH ARE TWO

PRECIOUS STONES THAT ARE

RED, LIKE A RUBY.

HE IS RED.

THAT JUST SHOCKED ME WHEN I

REALIZED THAT THE FATHER IN

HIS GLORY IS LIKE RED FIRE.

AND I REALIZED BECAUSE IT IS

BECAUSE OF SOLOMON 8: 5,

WHERE IT SAYS THAT LOVE IS

AN EVERLASTING FLAME OF YA.

AND SO THE FACT THAT HE IS

FIERY -- IN HEBREWS 10: 28,

IT TALKS ABOUT FOR OUR GOD

IS A CONSUMING FIRE.

AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT

THAT AND YOU PUT IT ALL

TOGETHER, YOU REALIZE THAT

THE FATHER WHO HAS ALWAYS

LOVED HIS ETERNAL SON, AND

THE FATHER WHO HAS ALWAYS

LOVED HIS BELOVED SON, AND

THE LOVE THAT HAS ALWAYS

FLOWN BETWEEN THE BELOVED

AND THE LOVER IS NONE OTHER

THAN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

THIS TRINITY HAS MADE

HIMSELF ONE WITH US THROUGH

HIS SON, ON THE CROSS.

SO THAT WE COULD BE IN THE

INTERNAL FIERY ONE HIMSELF

FOREVER.

AND THAT IS JUST AWESOME.

Gordon: ALL RIGHT.

DUNCAN AND I WILL BE

ANSWERING SOME OF YOUR

QUESTIONS AFTER THIS.

AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE

PRAYING FOR YOU.

FIRST, WE'RE GOING TO MEET A

MAN WHO WALKED ACROSS THE

GRAND CANYON ON A TWO-INCH

HIGH WIRE.

I THINK GOD HAS GIVEN ME

A VERY UNIQUE TALENT, AND I

CAN USE IT TO BRING GLORY TO

HIS NAME.

Gordon: DARE-DEVIL NIK

WALLENDA SHARES HIS STORY,

AFTER THIS.

Gordon: WELL, EARLIER

DUNCAN TALKED WITH US ABOUT

LIVING AN EXTRAORDINARY

LIFE.

MIC WALLACEBURG KNOWNIK

WALLENDA KNOWS ALL ABOUT

THAT.

LAST JUNE HIS TIGHT WALK

ACROSS THE GRAND CANYON MADE

THE EMMYS.

ALL OF HIS FEATS ARE

AMAZING, BUT WHY DOES HE DO

IT?

TAKE A LOOK.

MY GREAT GRANDFATHER SAID

LIFE IS ON THE WIRE, AND

EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST

WAITING.

Reporter: NIK

WALLENDA'S LIFE IS ALWAYS

ABOUT KEEPING BALANCE.

NIK FACES UNIQUE CHALLENGES

AS A NORMAL GUY WITH A NOT

SO NORMAL JOB.

IT IS HARD TO RELATE TO

PEOPLE WHO WALK ON A CABLE

IN THE AIR.

Reporter: NIK'S FAMILY

HAS BEEN PERFORMING

PROFESSIONALLY FOR OVER 200

YEARS.

HIS GREAT GRANDFATHER

BROUGHT HIGH-WIRE INTO

AMERICA IN THE 1900s.

HE WALKED OVER ALMOST

EVERY CANYON IN THE UNITED

STATES.

HE CREATED THE LEGACY, AND I

LIVE IN THE SHADOWS OF HIM.

I WOULDN'T BE WHERE I AM IF

HE DIDN'T PAVE THAT ROAD AND

PASS ON THAT MANTRA THAT I

LIVE BY, WHICH IS NEVER GIVE

UP.

Reporter: HE DIDN'T

ALWAYS PLAN TO FOLLOW IN HIS

FAMILY'S FOOTSTEPS.

AS I WAS GROWING UP, MY

PARENTS WERE REALLY

STRUGGLING TO MAKE ENDS

MEET, AND I SAW THAT.

MY PARENTS SAID, GO TO

SCHOOL, STUDY, GO TO

COLLEGE, AND GO A DIFFERENT

DIRECTION.

AND THEY REALLY FOCUSED ON

THAT.

AND I GOT ACCEPTED TO GO TO

SOUTHEASTERN BIBLE COLLEGE

IN LAKELAND, COLLEGE.

AND EVENTUALLY GOING OFF TO

BECOME A PEDIATRICIAN.

BUT I STRUGGLED BECAUSE I

HAD SUCH A PASSION FOR

PERFORMING.

Reporter: AND THEN

NIK'S FAMILY WAS ASKED TO

POR PERFORM A SEVEN-PERSON

PYRAMID.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO

BE MY FINAL GOOD-BYE, AND WE

COULD REGRAIN THIS LEGACY

AND SHOW OUR FAMILY COULD

STILL DO THIS STUFF.

Reporter: THE

PERFORMANCE WITH SUCCESSFUL,

AND THE EXTENSIVE MEDIA

COVERAGE GOT HIM ATTENTION.

I THOUGHT I AM GOING TO

CARRY THIS ON, AND I'M GOING

TO DO BIG EVENTS THAT THE

WHOLE WORLD KNOWS ABOUT.

Reporter: NIK WENT ON

TO SET EIGHT WORLD RECORDS,

BUT IT WASN'T ALWAYS EASY.

THERE WERE ALWAYS

STRUGGLES.

BUT I'VE BEEN EXTREMELY

BLESSED.

I'VE HAD AMAZING

OPPORTUNITIES.

NIAGARA FALLS WAS ONE OF THE

MOST MEMORABLE.

AND GOING BACK TO PUERTO

RICO WHERE MY GREAT

GRANDFATHER LOST HIS LIFE

AND RECREATE THAT LIFE.

Reporter: HE WAS RAISED

IN A CHRISTIAN HOME, AND

FAITH WAS ALWAYS A PART OF

HIS LIFE.

THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT

GOD HAS LAID THIS DESIRES IN

MY HEART.

GOD HAS GIVEN ME A VERY

UNIQUE TALENT, AND I CAN USE

THAT TO BRING GLORY TO HIS

NAME.

THERE WAS A HEADLINE IN THE

PAPER NOT TOO LONG AGO, THE

TIM TEBOW OF THE TIGHT ROPE,

WHICH IS REALLY COOL.

HE USED THAT PLATFORM OF

PLAYING FOOTBALL AND HE WAS

ABLE TO TOUCH A LOT OF

PEOPLE'S LIVES.

I HAVE AN AMAZING PLATFORM

AS WELL.

Reporter: NIK TRAINS

HARD FOR EACH PERFORMANCE,

AND HE DOESN'T CONSIDER HIS

FEATS AS DEATH-DEFYING.

I DON'T SEE WHAT I'M

DOING ANY MORE DANGEROUS

THAN BEING A POLICE

OFFICER.

I DON'T THINK GOD IS HOLDING

ME AS I WALK ACROSS, BUT HE

HAS GIVEN ME A UNIQUE

TALENT.

AND I'VE ALSO TRAINED MY

WHOLE LIFE FOR THIS.

I TRAINED ON THE WINDS AND I

KNOW I'VE WALKED A WIRE IN

TRAINING IN 90 MILES PER

HOUR WINDS, AND THAT DIDN'T

BLOW ME OFF.

WE HAVE A RESCUE CREW THAT

CAN GRAB ME WITHIN 60

SECONDS AND PULL ME TO

SAFETY.

Reporter: IN FACT, NIK

SAYS HIS BIGGEST CONCERN

DURING HIS WALK ACROSS

NIAGARA FALLS WAS THE TETHER

HE WAS MADE TO WEAR.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT I

WAS VERY UNACCUSTOMED WITH

AND VERY UNCOMFORTABLE.

THE TETHER CAN ACTUALLY

CAUSE YOU TO TRIP UP.

IT CAN TANGLE AROUND YOUR

NECK.

MY GREAT GRANDFATHER HAD A

BROTHER WHO FELL INTO THE

NET AND BOUNCED OUT AND HE

WAS KILLED.

AND WHAT HE PASSED ON TO THE

GENERATIONS WAS IF YOU HAVE

A NET OR A TETHER, YOU KNOW

YOU CAN USE THAT AND YOU

BECOME RELAXED.

Reporter: HE AND HIS

WIFE BOTH COME FROM A LONG

LINE OF PERFORMERS AND HAVE

THREE CHILDREN TOGETHER.

IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO ME

THAT EVERY TIME BEFORE I DO

ANY OF THESE BIG EVENTS, I

GET IN A CIRCLE AND PRAY

WITH MY FAMILY.

AND I ALWAYS SAY, LET GOD

GET THE GLORY OUT OF

WHATEVER I'M DOING.

THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO

ME, THAT THEY DON'T PRAISE

NIK WALLENDA, BUT THEY

PRAISE GOD.

FOR ME, MYSELF, IT IS HARD

TO DENY THERE IS A GOD WHEN

YOU SEE THE GRAND CANYON.

THAT'S MY ART.

AND THAT'S WHY I LIKE TO

SHOW THESE AMAZING PLACES

OFF AROUND THE WORLD.

I WOULD WALK ACROSS NIAGARA

FALLS AND THE GRAND CANYON

IF NO ONE WAS THERE.

IT IS IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE

ARE INSPIRED BY WHAT I DO.

THEY SEE IT AS AN

INSPIRATION THAT THEIR

DREAMS ARE POSSIBLE, TOO.

Reporter: IT ALL MAY

SEEM A BIT NERVE-RACKING,

BUT NIK SAYS HIS MOST

PEACEFUL MOMENTS ARE ON THAT

WIRE.

PEOPLE THINK WHEN I'M ON

THE WIRE, HOW CAN IT BE

PEACEFUL?

WELL, WHEN I PRAISING GOD,

IT IS MY PEACE TIME.

THE WIRE IS MY PRAYER

CLOSET.

Reporter: NIK HAS

WRITTEN A BOOK ABOUT HIS

EXPERIENCES ENTITLED

"BALANCE."

AND HE SAYS IT IS OFTEN

DIFFICULT IN LIFE TO KEEP

THAT BALANCE, BUT IT HELPS

TO FOCUS ON WHAT IS

IMPORTANT.

I WAS WALKING ACROSS

NIAGARA FALLS, AND THERE WAS

RAGING WATERS TO MY LEFT,

AND BELOW ME WATERS, BUT

INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON ALL

OF THE PROBLEMS I HAD AROUND

ME, I FOCUSED ON THE OTHER

END.

JUST VERY, VERY SIMILAR TO

OUR WALK WITH CHRIST.

IT IS NOT ALWAYS ROSY.

IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY.

LIFE ISN'T ALWAYS A DREAM.

BUT WITH GOD, ALL THINGS ARE

POSSIBLE AND THERE IS THAT

LIGHT AT THE END OF THE

TUNNEL.

Gordon: NIK IS NOT DONE

YET.

HE ALSO PLANS TO WALK ACROSS

SKYSCRAPERS IN CHICAGO THIS

FALL.

THIS IS "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," AND WE'VE GOT

SOME VIEWER QUESTIONS.

TIMOTHY WRITES IN, "I WAS

TOLD TO GET A GOOD

EDUCATION, GET A SOLID JOB,

BE A CHRISTIAN, AND DO THE

RIGHT THING.

I'VE DONE ALL THAT.

BUT DOING THE RIGHT THING IS

NO LONGER JOYFUL TO ME AND

I'M BORED WITH LIFE.

I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA ON HOW

TO BEGIN A NEW, EXCITING

LIFE, AND GET OUT OF MY

RUT."

DUNCAN, ANY SUGGESTIONS

THERE?

WELL, I MEAN, THERE ARE

ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT WE

COULD THINK OF TO TRY TO FIX

THAT.

LIKE MAYBE GO ON A MISSIONS

TRIP OR DO SOMETHING

EXCITING LIKE THAT.

BUT I THINK THERE HAS GOT TO

BE SOMETHING MORE

FUNDAMENTAL EVERY DAY, EVERY

MOMENT, EVERY SECOND,

SOMETHING THAT KEEPS US

EXCITED CONSTANTLY.

AND I THINK IT IS TRULY THAT

REALIZATION THAT BY THE HOLY

SPIRIT, ONE WITH CHRIST, IN

THE COMFORT OF THE FATHER'S

LOVE, TIMOTHY, YOU CAN DO

THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE YOUR

HEAVENLY FATHER DOING, JUST

LIKE JESUS DID.

AND WHAT KIND OF THINGS DID

JESUS DO AS HE -- WITH HIS

SPIRITUAL LIFE?

I DIDN'T THINK HE SAW THE

FATHER IN SOME KIND OF TV

MOVIE SCREEN.

HE KNEW THROUGH THE HOLY

SPIRIT, JUST LIKE YOU CAN,

TIMOTHY.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK AS

HE -- AS JESUS BEGAN TO LIVE

OUT OF THAT REVELATION OF

WHAT THE FATHER WAS DOING,

HE BEGAN TO SEE BLIND PEOPLE

DIFFERENTLY.

INSTEAD OF SEEING THEM AS

BLIND, HE SAW THEM AS AN

OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEALED.

Gordon: THIS HAPPENED

THAT THE GLORY OF THE LORD

WOULD BE REVEALED.

EXACTLY.

WHEN I WAS A POLICE OFFICER,

WORKING AMONGST CRIMINALS,

GOD GAVE ME AN EXCITING LIFE

BY SIMPLY INVITING HIM INTO

THE EVERY DAY WORK LIFE AND

ASKING HIM WHERE THE CRIME

WAS GOING ON.

[LAUGHTER]

Gordon: SO IT STARTS

INWARDLY FIRST.

IT STARTS INWARDLY, OUT

OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH

CHRIST.

Gordon: INSTEAD OF

TRYING TO FILL YOUR LIFE

WITH BUSYNESS, FILL YOUR

LIFE WITH JESUS.

WE'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

REBECCA SAYS, "I'VE WORKED

IN THE CORPORATE OFFICES,

AND I'VE RUN SEVERAL

BUSINESSES, BUT FEEL I HAVE

NOT FOUND MY TRUE CALLING

HERE ON EARTH.

I'M AFRAID TO LEAVE A JOB

THAT PAYS WELL FOR THE

UNKNOWN.

I THINK A LOT ABOUT LIVING

OVERSEAS, AND SERVING CHRIST

IN CAMBODIA.

IT SEEMS THAT THE TUG IN MY

HEART FOR THE PEOPLE OF

CAMBODIA IS FROM THE LORD,

BUT I'M NOT CONVINCED.

HOW CAN I KNOW IF THIS IS

GOD?"

WELL, I THINK THAT IS

JUST SO EXCITING, I REALLY

DO.

I THINK THAT IS JUST SO

EXCITING.

AND I HAVE A FRIEND, YOU

KNOW, WHO WORKS WITH ME, WHO

IS NOW THE EXECUTIVE

DIRECTOR OF "CATCH THE FIRE

U.S.," AND HE JUST LEFT THE

PRACTICE OF LAW, AND A VERY,

VERY WELL-PAYING, MULTIPLE,

SIX-FIGURE SALARY JOB TO

COME AND WORK WITH US DOING

MISSIONS ALL OVER THE

WORLD.

AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT THERE

COMES A DAY -- JESUS SAID,

YOU KNOW, IF YOU GAIN THE

WHOLE WORLD BUT LOSE YOUR

OWN LIFE, THAT'S

MEANINGLESS.

RATHER LOSE YOUR LIFE AND

GAIN THE WORLD AND THE NEXT

LIFE, YOU KNOW?

THE ANSWER IS GO TO

CAMBODIA.

GO CHECK IT OUT.

IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN TO

CAMBODIA BEFORE, THEN

PROBABLY NOT THE BEST THING,

ALTHOUGH THERE ARE SOME

RADICALS THAT WOULD JUST

TOTALLY GIVE IT UP AND GO TO

CAMBODIA COLD.

BUT GO TO CAMBODIA, GO CHECK

IT OUT, GO SEE HOW THE LORD

USES YOU.

FIND OUT SOME MINISTRIES

THAT ARE INVOLVED IN

CAMBODIA.

I'M SURE CBN MIGHT EVEN BE

ONE OF THEM.

SEE WHAT GOD WILL BE WITH

YOU IN CAMBODIA --

Gordon: TEST IT AND

SEE.

YEAH.

Gordon: HERE IS A

THOUGHT FOR YOU: MOST PEOPLE

DON'T THINK ABOUT BEING

MISSIONARIES TO CAMBODIA.

SO IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT

THAT, THAT'S NOT AN IDEA

COMING FROM THE WORLD.

SO IF IT'S NOT COMING FROM

THE WORLD, GUESS WHERE IT IS

COMING FROM?

SO THEN GO TEST IT.

AND SAY, OKAY, GOD, IF YOU

WANT TO USE ME IN CAMBODIA,

SHOW ME.

AND GO AND SEE WHAT

HAPPENS.

BECAUSE THERE IS AN AMAZING

THING THAT HAPPENS.

WHEN GOD IS WITH YOU AND HE

HAS CALLED YOU TO IT, HE

ANOINTS YOU FOR THAT TASK.

AND YOU GET AN INCREDIBLE

ANOINTING.

YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE SAVED,

TRANSFORMED.

SO TEST IT AND SEE.

YOU DID -- TELL US QUICKLY

ABOUT THE FIRST MIRACLE THAT

YOU EVER EXPERIENCED.

WELL, GORDON, I WAS ON A

MISSION JUST LIKE THE LADY

WAS SAYING ABOUT CAMBODIA.

AND I WAS IN GHANA.

AND WE HAD SET UP A LARGE,

OUTDOOR KIND OF RINE

REINHARD BONNKE CRUSADE, AND

WE HAD 30,000 PEOPLE AT THE

EVENT.

I WAS THE ASSOCIATE

EVANGELIST, AND SO MY JOB

WAS TO CHECK OUT THE PEOPLE

WHO WERE CLAIMING THEY

RECEIVED A MIRACLE WHY THE

EVANGELIST WAS PREACHING.

AND THIS LADY CAME FORWARD

OUT OF THE CROWD WITH HER

SON.

SHE WAS KIND OF HOLDING HIM

WITH HIS LIFELESS LEGS.

AND SHE WAS SCREAMING LOUDLY

HE HAD BEEN HEALED.

I LOOKED AT HIM, AND HE

DIDN'T LOOK ANYTHING LIKE

HEALED TO ME.

HE LOOKED TOTALLY PARALYZED,

AND HIS LEGS WERE LIFELESS

AND FLOPPY.

HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT

NINE YEARS OLD.

TALKING TO THE INTERPRETER

HAD FOUND OUT HIS OLDER

SISTER HAD DROPPED HIM

BEFORE HE COULD WALK, WHEN

HE WAS A TINY INFANT, AND HE

WAS PARL LIVED EVERY SINCE

WITH A BROKEN SPINE.

AND HIS LEGS HAD BEEN

LIFELESS.

AND SHE SAID, NO, NO, NO.

HE STARTED TWITCHING HIS

LEGS.

I REALIZED IN THAT MOMENT,

MAYBE THERE IS SOMETHING

HAPPENING THERE.

SO I SAID TO THIS LITTLE

BOY, IN JESUS' NAME, I

COMMAND YOU TO START

WALKING.

AND THE INTERPRETER SAID

THAT, AND I SAID, COME,

COME.

AND SO THE MOM WAS STILL

HOLDING HIM, BUT HE STARTED

MOVING HIS LEGS LIKE THIS,

AND THEN LIKE THIS.

AND I SAID TO THE MOM, JUST

PUSH HIM.

AND SHE PUSHED HIM FORWARD,

AND HE TOTTERED FOR A MOMENT

AND HE TOOK ONE STEP, AND

SUDDENLY WAS LIKE THIS

INVISIBLE BOLT OF POWER

LITERALLY LANDED ON THIS

BOY.

IT WAS LIKE HIS LEGS JUST

SHOT INTO STRENGTH, AND HE

JUST STARTED WALKING

NORMALLY AND CHASING ME, AS

I'M WALKING BACKWARDS, LIKE

THIS.

AND FINALLY I TURNED AROUND

AND HAD TO RUN BECAUSE HE

WAS CATCHING ME.

AFTER THAT, WE WERE RUNNING

UP AND DOWN AT THE BACK OF

THE STAGE.

WE TOOK HIM UP ON THE

PLATFORM, AND HE STARTED

CHASING THE EVANGELIST ALL

AROUND.

AND THE WHOLE MUSLIM CITY

THERE, PEOPLE OF OTHER

FAITH, THEY SCREAMED AND

WENT BALLISTIC.

Gordon: BECAUSE THEY

KNEW.

THEY KNEW.

THE BOYS LEGS, LITERALLY IN

FRONT OF OUR EYES, GREW TO

BEING A NORMAL-SIZED,

HEALTHY BOY'S LEGS.

AND I'VE NEVER BEEN THE SAME

SINCE.

Gordon: THAT CAN HAPPEN

TO YOU IF YOU JUST BELIEVE.

THESE SIGNS SHALL FOLLOW

THEM THAT BELIEVE.

THEY SHALL LAY HANDS ON THE

SICK AND THEY SHALL

RECOVER.

YOU CAN HAVE THESE

EXPERIENCES IF YOU JUST LET

THEM.

WELL, THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE

HAVE FOR THIS PROGRAM.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO FIND OUT

MORE ABOUT DUNCAN'S BOOK, GO

TO YOUR LOCAL BOOKSTORE OR

TO CBN.COM.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM: "IMITATE GOD IN

EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR YOU

ARE HIS DEAR CHILDREN."

GOD BLESS YOU.

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