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700 Club Interactive: Holocaust Survivors - April 28, 2014

Join us as we honor survivors of the Holocaust. Hear how they suffered, and see how they survived. Read Transcript


WE HEARD A LOT OF GERMANS

YELLING.

Gordon: A HOLOCAUST

SURVIVOR REMEMBERS THE DEATH

CAMPS.

IF THERE WAS EVER A HELL

ON EARTH, THIS MUST BE IT.

Gordon: AND WHY SHE

FOUGHT TO STAY ALIVE.

I SURVIVED.

Gordon: ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

ON "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE,"

WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY

FOR EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE

TOPICS THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

WELL, WELCOME TO "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

TODAY IS HOLOCAUST

REMEMBRANCE DAY.

AND DURING WORLD WAR II,

MORE THAN SIX MILLION JEWS

WERE MASSACRED IN THE NAZI

PRISON CAMPS.

ONLY A FEW ESCAPED WITH

THEIR LIVES.

Terry: EVA CORE WAS ONE

OF THEM, AND FOR YEARS SHE

WAS HAUNTED BY THE

EXPERIENCE.

Reporter: EVA MOSES AND

HER TWIN SISTER GREW UP IN A

SMALL VILLAGE IN ROMANIA IN

THE 1940s.

THEIRS WAS THE ONLY JEWISH

FAMILY IN THE REGION.

MY FATHER SAID THAT AS

LONG AS YOU SAID YOUR

PRAYERS, DID YOUR GOOD DEEDS

THAT GOD WANTED TO DO, AND

WE LIVED SO FAR AWAY FROM A

BIG CITY, THAT SOMEHOW WE

WOULD ESCAPE THE NAZIS.

THEY WON'T COME HERE.

THEY WON'T COME FOR SIX

JEWS.

Reporter: BUT THEY DID

COME.

AT THE AGE OF 10, EVA WAS

LOADED ON TO A CROWDED

CATTLE CAR WITH HER FAMILY

AND RELOCATED TO AUSCHWITZ.

THE CAR DOORS OPENED, AND

WE HEARD A LOT OF GERMANS

YELLING ORDERS.

MY MOTHER WAS HOLDING ON TO

MIRIAM AND ME.

AND MY FATHER WAS STANDING

RIGHT BY US WITH MY TWO

OLDER SISTERS.

EVERYTHING SEEMED TO BE DARK

GREY, AND TALL, BARBED

WIRES.

I SAID TO MYSELF, IF THERE

WAS EVER A HELL ON EARTH,

THIS MUST BE IT.

MY FATHER AND MY TWO OLDER

SISTERS DISAPPEARED IN THE

CROWD.

AND 30 MINUTES AFTER WE

STEPPED DOWN, MIRIAM AND I

NO LONGER HAD A FAMILY.

WE WERE ALL ALONE.

THERE WAS NOWHERE TO TURN

FOR HELP.

Reporter: EVA'S

EXPERIENCE HER FIRST NIGHT

IN AUSCHWITZ PREPARED HER

FOR WHAT SHE WOULD FACE IN

HER IN PRISONMENT.

THERE WERE THE SCATTERED,

NAKED CORPSES OF THREE

CHILDREN.

THEIR BODIES SHRIVELED, AND

THIS IS WHEN I REALIZED, AT

AGE 10, THAT THAT COULD

HAPPEN TO MIRIAM AND ME,

ALSO, UNLESS I DID SOMETHING

TO PREVENT IT.

WHY DIDN'T THEY DO

SOMETHING TO STAY ALIVE?

I WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN

TO MIRIAM AND ME.

THE ONLY THING I COULD THINK

OF WAS THAT I WAS GOING TO

MAKE A SILENT PLEDGE.

TO DO EVERYTHING WITHIN MY

POWER, THAT MIRIAM AND I

SHALL NOT END UP ON THAT

FILTHY FLOOR.

Reporter: EVA'S SPIRIT

WOULD BE TESTED OVER AND

OVER AGAIN THROUGHOUT HER

CAPTIVITY, BY DR. JOSEPH

MANGILA, THE NOTORIOUS ANGEL

OF DEATH OF AUSCHWITZ.

WE KNEW, FROM WITHIN THE

FIRST WEEK, PROBABLY, THAT

HE MURDERED OUR FAMILY.

AND WE ALSO KNEW WE WERE

ALIVE ONLY BECAUSE HE WANTED

US ALIVE, AND AS LONG AS HE

WANTED US ALIVE.

Reporter: MANGALA

PERFORMED HORRIFIC

EXPERIMENTS ON HIS VICTIMS',

STUDYING DRUGS ON TWINS,

USING ONE WITH THE DRUG.

THE DOCTOR INJECTED US

THREE TIMES A WEEK WITH ALL

KINDS OF GERMS AND

CHEMICALS.

AFTER ONE OF THOSE

INJECTIONS, I BECAME

UNBELIEVABLY SICK.

SO NEXT MORNING DR. MANGALA

CAME IN WITH FOUR OTHER

DOCTORS, AND HE SAID, SHE

HAS ONLY TWO WEEKS TO LIVE.

I REFUSED TO ACCEPT HIS

VERDICT.

Reporter: FOR THE NEXT

TWO WEEKS, EVA WAS IN AND

OUT OF CONSCIOUSNESS, OFTEN

WAKING UP ON THE FLOOR,

CRAWLING TOWARDS A WATER

FAUCET, NEVER MAKING IT, BUT

SOMEHOW SHE CONTINUED TO

SURVIVE.

I ACTUALLY MADE A PLEDGE

THAT I REFUSE TO DIE.

AND I WILL DO ANYTHING IN MY

POWER TO PROVE THAT MANGALA

WRONG, TO SURVIVE AND TO BE

REUNITED WITH MY SISTER.

WOULD I HAVE DIED, SHE WOULD

HAVE BEEN RUSHED TO MANGALA

AND KILLED.

BUT I SPOILED THE

EXPERIMENT.

I SURVIVED.

Reporter: AFTER NINE

MONTHS OF EXPERIMENTS IN

CAPTIVITY, EVA AND HER

SISTER WERE LIBERATED FROM

THE HORRORS OF AUSCHWITZ BY

RUSSIAN TROOPS.

THOUGH FREE, EVA WAS HELD

CAPTIVE BY A DIFFERENT KIND

OF PRISON, ONE OF BITTERNESS

AND UNFORGIVENESS.

IF ANYBODY ASKED ME IF I

WAS ANGRY WITH GOD, I WAS

ANGRY WITH EVERYTHING, GOD,

THE WORLD, AND EVERYBODY.

Reporter: SHE REMAINED

IN HER INVISIBLE CELL UNTIL

THE 50th ANNIVERSARY OF

THE LIBERATION OF

AUSCHWITZ.

WHILE VISITING THE CAMP

WHERE SO MANY HORRIBLE

EVENTS SHAPED HER LIFE, EVA

MADE ANOTHER KIND OF PLEDGE:

SHE FORGAVE.

AS I WAS STANDING BY THE

RUINS OF THE GAS CHAMBER, I

REMEMBERED ALL OF THE PEOPLE

I WAS FORGIVING.

I WAS FORGIVING THE NAZIS.

I WAS FORGIVING MANGALA.

I WAS FORGIVING THE PEOPLE

WHO DID THE EXPERIMENTS.

AND I WAS FORGIVING

EVERYBODY BECAUSE THE FACT

THAT I HAD THE POWER TO

FORGIVE GAVE ME AN EMOTIONAL

FREEDOM THAT WAS SO

EXHILARATING, SO BENEFICIAL

TO ME, THAT I DID NOT HAVE

TO DEAL WITH WHO DID WHAT TO

ME AND WHY.

IMMEDIATELY I FELT THAT ALL

OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS

CARRYING ON MY SHOULDERS,

THEY'RE LIFTED FROM ME AND I

WAS FREE.

AND I WAS NO LONGER A

PRISONER OF MY TRAGIC PAST.

Reporter: TODAY EVA

RUNS HER OWN HOLOCAUST

MUSEUM IN TERAHAUTE, IN

MEMORY OF HER SISTER,

MIRIAM, WHO DIED OF CANCER

IN THE '90s.

SHE ALSO SHARES HER

EXPERIENCES FROM HER TIME AT

AUSCHWITZ AND THE LESSONS

SHE LEARNED ON HER PATH TO

FORGIVENESS.

GOD HAS THE POWER TO

FORGIVE, AND FORGIVE US, AND

FORGIVE OTHER PEOPLE.

Reporter: HER MESSAGE

NOW IS SIMPLE: FORGIVE EVEN

YOUR WORST ENEMIES.

I HAVE PERSONALLY

EXPERIENCED THE ACT OF

FORGIVENESS THAT GAVE ME MY

EMOTIONAL FREEDOM.

NO HUMAN BEING CAN BE FREE,

EMOTIONALLY FREE AND

MENTALLY FREE, WITHOUT

FORGIVING PEOPLE WHO HAVE

WRONGED THEM.

Gordon: IT'S AN

INCREDIBLE INSIGHT.

AND AN INCREDIBLE INSIGHT TO

THE VERY BASIC NATURE OF

HUMAN EXPERIENCE.

THAT EVEN IN THE WORST --

JUST IMAGINE WHAT SHE WENT

THROUGH, THE HORROR OF WHAT

SHE LIVED THROUGH.

AND AT THE END OF THAT, TO

SAY THE EMOTIONAL RELEASE,

THE BENEFIT TO ME, THE POWER

THAT CAME TO ME TO BE ABLE

TO FORGIVE, THAT IS

INCREDIBLE.

WHAT ABOUT YOU?

WHAT ARE YOU HOLDING ON TO?

SO OFTEN WHEN WE'RE RIGHT

AND THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE

HORRIBLY WRONG, WE WANT TO

HOLD ON TO THAT JUDGMENT.

WE WANT TO HOLD ON TO OUR

QUEST FOR VENGEANCE.

BUT WHEN WE DO THAT, IT'S

LIKE US DRINKING POISON,

EXPECTING THE OTHER PERSON

TO DIE.

ALL WE DO IS POISON OUR

FUTURE, POISON OUR PRESENT.

AND WE PUT OURSELVES INTO A

CAGE OF BITTERNESS AND

RESENTMENT AND ANGER.

AND WHERE DO YOU GO WITH

THAT?

SHE FOUND A GREAT SECRET.

AND IT'S ONE OF THE MOST

INCREDIBLE SECRETS.

IT IS WRITTEN ABOUT

THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO, THAT

WHEN WE FORGIVE, WE SET

OURSELVES FREE.

AND WE SET OURSELVES FREE

EMOTIONALLY, SPIRITUALLY,

MENTALLY, PHYSICALLY.

MODERN MEDICINE IS STARTING

TO SHOW US THAT A LOT OF THE

DISEASES THAT WE HOLD IN OUR

BODY ARE AUL ALL BASED ON

OUR RESENTMENT, OUR HURTS,

THE THINGS WE'RE HOLDING ON

TO, THE THINGS THAT MAKE US

TENSE AND STRESSED.

BUT WHEN WE LET THEM GO,

THAT'S WHEN TRUE PEACE

COMES.

THE SHALOM THAT THE TORAH

PROMISES COMES TO US WHEN WE

TAKE ON THAT SAME NATURE

THAT GOD HAS.

GOD FORGIVES, AND WE CAN

FORGIVE, TOO.

EVEN OUR WORST ENEMY, EVEN

THE PERSON THAT SO HORRIBLY

DAMAGED US, WHEN WE FORGIVE

WE ACTUALLY SET OURSELVES

FREE.

IF YOU WANT HELP WITH

THIS -- ANDç I KNOW IT'S

DIFFICULT.

I KNOW FROM MY OWN LIFE, AND

I SOMETIMES HAVE TO GO BACK

AND FORGIVE AGAIN.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU THINK OF

THAT PERSON AND YOUç STILL

GET A CHECK IN YOUR SPIRIT,

WELL, YOU MAY NEED TO

FORGIVE AGAIN.

AND SOMETIMES WHAT'S BEEN

DONE TO YOU IS SO HORRIBLE,

YOU HAVEN'T TOLD ANYONE.

BUT YOU CAN DO THAT WITH

US.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE YOUR

NAME.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO

ANYTHING LIKE THAT, ANYTHING

IDENTIFYING.

BUT IF YOU JUST WANT TO LET

SOMEBODY KNOW, I NEED TO

FORGIVE THEM, BUT I NEED TO

SAY WHAT HAPPENED TO ME.

AND THEN I NEED TO PRAY.

AND ASK GOD TO INTERVENE.

SO THAT TOGETHER WE CAN

FORGIVE.

FORGIVE THE PERSON WHO DID

THIS TO ME.

IF YOU WANT THAT, WE'RE HERE

FOR YOU.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PICK

UP THE PHONE AND CALL US.

THE NUMBER IS ON THE

SCREEN.

1-888-777-1999.

TERRY?

Terry: STILL AHEAD, A

HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR TELLS HER

INCREDIBLE STORY OF HIDING

FROM THE NAZIS IN A

BASEMENT.

WE HAD NO VENTILATION, NO

WINDOWS, AND NO DOORS.

WE WERE IN TOTAL DARKNESS.

WE WERE AFRAID TO EVEN LIGHT

A MATCH OR TO WHISPER A

WORD.

Terry: SEE HOW YOU CAN

HELP THIS WOMAN AND OTHERS

LIKE HER.

THAT'S NEXT.

Gordon: NEARLY A

QUARTER OF A MILLION

HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS LIVE IN

ISRAEL TODAY, AND MOST OF

THEM ARE FROM THE FORMER

SOVIET UNION, AND HALF OF

THOSE LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY

LINE.

HERE IS HOW CBN ISRAEL IS

BRINGING HELP TO THESE

SURVIVORS.

LUCY CALIKA WAS 18 YEARS OLD

WHEN THE NAZIS INVADED THE

SOVIET UNION.

THE WAR BEGAN IN 1941,

JUST AFTER I FINISHED HIGH

SCHOOL.

WE CELEBRATED MY GRADUATION

WITH GOWNS, AND WE LAUGHED

AND SANG.

AND LATER WE WALKED ALONG

THE SEA SHORE.

WE HAD NO IDEA THAT TOMORROW

WE WILL HEAR AN ANNOUNCEMENT

THAT THE WAR HAD STARTED.

AND THE BOMBINGS BEGAN.

ON OCTOBER 17, WE SAW

COLUMNS OF JEWS BEING LED BY

GERMANS WITH MACHINE GUNS.

WE ASKED THEM, WHERE ARE

THEY TAKING YOU?

THEY ANSWERED US, THEY DON'T

KNOW.

Gordon: THAT DAY 80% OF

THE JEWS IN ODESSA WERE

MURDERED BY THE NAZIS.

LUCY AND HER FAMILY ESCAPED

THE MASSACRE, ONLY TO FACE A

NEW ROUND OF ARRESTS.

THERE WAS AN ORDER THAT

ALL JEWISH PEOPLE MUST LEAVE

THEIR HOUSES, WITH ALL OF

THEIR POSSESSIONS.

AND WE WERE TOLD THAT ANYONE

THAT DID NOT LEAVE IN TWO

DAYS WOULD BE EXECUTED.

MY SISTER SAID, WHY SHOULD

WE GO TO A GHETTO.

WE CAN HIDE IN THE

BASEMENT.

NO ONE KNEW THAT WE HAD THE

SHELTER, SO NO ONE COULD

FIND US.

WE HAD NO VENTILATION.

NO WINDOWS, AND NO DOORS.

WE LIVED IN HORRIBLE

CONDITIONS.

THE FLOORS WERE ALWAYS WET,

AND THERE WAS MOLD ON THE

WALLS.

WE WERE IN TOTAL DARKNESS.

WE WERE AFRAID TO EVEN LIGHT

A MATCH OR TO WHISPER A

WORD.

Gordon: AT NIGHT,

NEIGHBORS BROUGHT THEM FOOD

IN A BUCKET, LOWERED THROUGH

A HOLE IN THE FLOOR.

WE ATE JUST ONCE A DAY, A

DISH MADE OUT OF COOKED CORN

MEAL.

SOMETIMES WE ADDED MORE

WATER AND CALLED IT A SOUP.

WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD

ONLY BE THERE FOR TWO

WEEKS.

AND THAT THE PROTESTANTS

WOULD COME LIBERATE US.

WE ENDED UP LIVING IN THAT

BASEMENT FOR TWO YEARS AND

THREE MONTHS.

Gordon: THOSE TWO YEARS

AFFECTED LUCY'S HEALTH FOR

THE REST OF HER LIFE.

AFTER I CAME OUT OF THE

BASEMENT, I WAS VERY ILL.

WHEN I GOT AN X-RAY, I FOUND

OUT THAT I HAD OSTEOPOROSIS

AND TWO OTHER BONE

DISEASES.

FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE, I

HAVE HAD PAIN ALL OVER MY

BODY.

TO THIS DAY I CANNOT MOVE MY

HAND FREELY.

SOMETIMES IT HURTS WHEN I

EVEN JUST MOVE MY FINGER A

LITTLE BIT.

Gordon: WHEN THE SOVIET

UNION COLLAPSED IN 1991,

LUCY MOVED TO ISRAEL, HOPING

FOR A BETTER LIFE.

I WAS 69 YEARS OLD WHEN

WE CAME TO ISRAEL.

MY HUSBAND WAS A DISABLED

VETERAN OF WORLD WAR II, AND

HE WAS VERY ILL.

Gordon: LIFE IN ISRAEL

WAS ANYTHING BUT EASY.

LUCY'S HUSBAND RECEIVED A

SMALL VETERAN'S PENSION, AND

WHEN HE DIED, SHE HAD VERY

LITTLE MONEY TO LIVE ON.

MUCH OF LOS LUCY'S HEALTH

CARE IS COVERED BY THE

ISRAELI GOVERNMENT, BUT THE

ONE THING SHE NEEDED MOST

WAS NOT.

LUCY'S WALKER IS WORN OUT

AND TOO HEAVY FOR HER TO

PUSH.

SO WE GOT HER A NEW ONE

THAT'S EASIER TO HANDLE.

THE BEST THING IS THAT IT

IS SO STEADY.

THE WHEELS ARE LOSE ON MY

OLD ONE AND IT IS SHAKY, AND

IT MAKES A LOT OF NOISE.

AND NOW I HAVE A SEAT TO

TAKE A BREAK WHEN MY BACK

HURTS.

Gordon: WE ALSO NOTICED

THAT LUCY'S AIR CONDITIONER

WAS BROKEN.

SO WE INSTALLED A BRAND NEW

ONE, TO GIVE HER SOME RELIEF

FROM THE DESERT HEAT.

I COULDN'T IMAGINE THAT

ANYONE WOULD GIVE ME A

BEAUTIFUL THING LIKE THIS.

I AM THANKFUL THAT THERE ARE

PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN THIS

WORLD.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Gordon: AND THANK YOU.

IF YOU'RE A MEMBER OF "THE

700 CLUB," THERE ARE PEOPLE

SAYING THAT THEY ARE

THANKFUL FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU

IN THE WORLD TODAY, WHERE WE

CAN REACH OUT WITH HANDS OF

LOVE AND COMPASSION TO

PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN

THROUGH INCREDIBLE

HARDSHIP.

AND BE A BLESSING TO THEM.

IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT, ALL

YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL US.

1-888-777-1999.

THERE ARE OVER 100,000

HOLOCAUST SURVIVORS LIVING

IN ISRAEL TODAY WHO ARE

LIVING BELOW THE POVERTY

LINE.

AND WE WANT TO HELP THEM.

AND THE ONES FROM THE FORMER

SOVIET UNION, THERE ARE NO

REPARATIONS FOR THEM, BUT IF

YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF IT,

YOU CAN WRITE US, CBN

ISRAEL, CBN CENTER, VIRGINIA

BEACH, VIRGINIA, 23463, OR

YOU CAN LOG ON TO cbn.com,

AND THERE IS A PLACE ON THE

GIVING PAGE, WHERE IF YOU

WANT TO DESIGNATE YOUR

DONATION TO CBN ISRAEL, YOU

CAN DO IT THERE.

OR YOU CAN JUST JOIN "THE

700 CLUB."

HOW MUCH IS THAT?

IT'S JUST $20 A MONTH, 65

CENTS A DAY.

EITHER WAY, DO IT NOW.

1-888-777-1999.

TERRY?

Terry: PRETTY

INCREDIBLE STORIES.

UP NEXT, A MAN FORCED TO

FIGHT FOR THE NAZIS.

THE DIFFICULT THING WAS

THEN I HAD TO FIND THE

DOCUMENTS.

I COULD HAVE SAID I DON'T

FIND IT, AND THAT WOULD HAVE

BEEN THE END OF IT.

Terry: THIS SOLDIER

SHARES HIS BATTLE, RIGHT

AFTER THIS.

Terry: ON APRIL 30th,

1945, ADOLPH HITLER

COMMITTED SUICIDE, AND

GERMANY SURRENDERED A YEAR

LATER.

IT MARKED THE END OF A DARK

PEOPLE FOR THE GERMAN

PEOPLE.

FOR HILLMAR, IT MARKED THE

BEGINNING OF QUESTION.

Reporter: HILMAR

REMEMBERS THE DAY HIS

INNOCENT CHILDHOOD CHANGED

FOREVER.

WHEN THE NAZIS CAME, I

WAS SEVEN YEARS OLD, AND I

STILL REMEMBER THAT MY

FATHER WAS ASKED TO JOIN THE

NAZI PARTY, THE NATIONAL

SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY, AND

HE REFUSED AND HE LOST HIS

JOB.

THERE WAS NEVER, IN MY OWN

THINKING OR IN MY PARENTS'

THINK, ANY IDENTIFICATION

WITH THE NAZIS AND WITH

HITLER.

Reporter: HITLER'S

POISON PROPAGANDA TARGETED

CHILDREN, TOO.

HITLER IMMEDIATELY

ELIMINATED ALL OF THE YOUTH

GROUPS, AND HE PASSED A LAW

THAT SAID THAT EVERY BOY OR

GIRL THAT IS 10 YEARS, HAS

TO GO INTO THE HITLER

YOUTH.

IT WAS A LAW AND MY PARENTS

HAD NO CHOICE.

Reporter: HITLER WAS

SETTING THE STAGE FOR THE

COLD-BLOODED MURDER OF THE

JEWS.

IN 1938, 1939, BEGAN THE

COLLECTION OF THE JEWS INTO

WORKING CONCENTRATION CAMPS,

WHICH WERE EXPLAINED TO US

AS WORKING CAMPS.

100% OF THE MEDIA WAS ALL

CONTROLLED BY THE NAZIS.

AND WHAT THEY GAVE US FOR

THE YOUTH TO LEARN.

Reporter: THE FIRST

MAJOR CONFLICT OF WORLD WAS

WORLD WAR II TOOK PLACE IN

1939.

IN 1943, HILMAR WAS DRAFTED

INTO THE GERMAN ARMY.

WHEN I WAS 18, THEY

TRANSFORMED ME INTO THE

PARTY.

AND THEORETICALLY, I WAS

PART OF THE NAZI PARTY.

THEY CALLED ME AND I HAD TO

SIGNED THE DOCUMENT, AND I

COULD HAVE SAID, I DON'T

SIGN IT, AND THAT WOULD HAVE

BEEN THE END OF ME.

Reporter: BUT HIS

PATRIOTISM OVERSHADOWED HIS

DISLIKE OF THE NAZIS.

I THOUGHT, MY DESTINY IS

HERE, AND I'M A PART OF IT,

AND WE HAVE TO WIN THE WAR.

MY TIME IN THE REAL WAR WAS

A YEAR, WHEN MOST OF THE

GERMAN ARMY WAS MOSTING

RETREATING.

IT NEVER OCCURRED TO ME THAT

WE WOULD LOSE THE WAR.

THE SOVIET COMMANDER WAS THE

HIGH COMMANDER, AND THEY

MADE AGREEMENTS THAT WE

DELIVER OUR ARMS AND WE CAN

GO HOME.

Reporter: BUT AS THEY

TRAVELLED HOME UNARMED,

THROUGH THE VILLAGES OF

SOVIET-CONTROLLED

YUGOSLAVIA, THEY WERE

TAKEN.

WE WERE MARCHED INTO A

PRISON CAMP.

YOU DIDN'T GET VERY MUCH TO

EAT.

WE GOT TWO THINGS, BEAN

SOUP, THAT WAS WATER AND

FIVE OR SIX BEANS, AND

CORNBREAD, WHICH WAS ROTTEN

INSIDE.

Reporter: AS THE

HARSHNESS OF PRISON LIFE

SUNK IN, HILMAR AND HIS

FELLOW SOLDIERS WERE FACED

WITH A DECISION: RUN AWAY OR

DIE THERE.ç

I CAN COME TO THE

CONCLUSION I WILL NOT

SURVIVE AS A PRISONER OF

WAR, SO I BETTER, VIS-A-VIS,

GET HOME OURSELVES.

WE DECIDED TO@MAñ AND

THAT'S WHAT WE DID.

THE PLAN WAS TO GO TO OUR

HOME AREA.

Reporter: BUT THE PLAN

ALL BUT CAME TO AN END WHEN

THE SOLDIER WHO CARRIED THE

MAP WAS CAPTURED.

ALL OF A SUDDEN I HEAR

THE SHOOTING, AND SO OUR

FRONT MAN HAD BEEN RUNNING

INTO A PATROL.

AND I COULDN'T HEAR ANYBODY

UNTIL WE RUN INTO THE

DARKNESS.

AND THERE BEGAN THE FIRST

WHAT I WOULD, AFTERWARDS,

CALL A MIRACLE THAT WE FOUND

EACH OTHER IN THE DARKNESS.

AND WE HAD NO MORE MAP, AND

WE DECIDED THAT WE WOULD GO

AFTER THE NORTH STAR.

Reporter: FOR FIVE

WEEKS, HILMAR AND ANOTHER

GERMAN SOLDIER NAVIGATED

THROUGHOUT YUGOSLAVIA,

SLEEPING DURING THE DAY AND

MOVING AT NIGHT.

FINALLY THEY MADE IT TO THE

HUNGARIAN BORDER, AND FROM

THERE TRAVELLED TO GERMANY.

THEY WERE FREE.

I NEVER HAD THE FEELING I

WOULD BE KILLED.

AND I SAID TO MYSELF, WAS IT

GOD WHO HAS TAKEN ME OUT

THERE.

Reporter: HILMAR TRIED

TO PIECE HIS LIFE BACK

TOGETHER.

HE FOUND OUT HIS DAD HAD

DIED IN A SOVIET

CONCENTRATION CAMP.

HE REUNITEED WITH HIS MOTHER

AND FAMILY, BUT GERMANY WAS

IN THE HANDS OF FOREIGN

TROOPS.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I

SHOULD DO.

I HAD NO PROFESSION.

I COULDN'T GET MY FOOT ON

THE GROUND.

Reporter: ONE DAY A

STRANGER MADE AN INTERESTING

PROPOSITION TO HIM.

THEY SAID, WHY DON'T YOU

TRY TO LISTEN TO GOD.

I SAID, WE HAVE NO TIM, HE

HAS NO TIME TO LISTEN TO

WHAT I SAY.

SO FINALLY I LET MYSELF BE

CONVINCED I SHOULD TRY IT.

Reporter: THE ENCOUNTER

CHANGED HIS LIFE.

IT WAS AS IF SOMEBODY

TOOK THE CURTAIN AWAY FROM

ME.

GOD LOOKED AT ME.

AND I LOOKED AT GOD'S EYES,

WHO I AM.

AND I WENT DOWN ON MY KNEES

AND I GAVE MY LIFE TO GOD.

I THANKED JESUS AND ASKED

JESUS TO WASH ME.

AND MY LIFE CHANGED

COMPLETELY.

Reporter: HILMAR ALSO

ASKED GOD TO FORGIVE THE

SINS OF HIS HOMELAND.

AND MY REPENTANCE TOWARDS

GORGOD AS I MAKE MYSELF

RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SINS OF

GERMANY.

THE MASSACRES IN WHICH I HAD

NOT PARTICIPATED, THE

ASSASSINATION OF THE JEWS,

THE WAR.

IT WAS MY UNCHRISTIAN LIFE

WHICH MADE ME A TOOL OF THE

NAZIS.

Reporter: HILMAR

RECALLS HIS LIFE FROM GERMAN

SHOULDER TO A CHRISTIAN IN

HIS BOOK.

TODAY HILMAR AND HIS WIFE,

DINA, LIVE A LIFE CENTERED

ON GOD'S WORD.

I START MY DAY READING

THE BIBLE, LISTENING TO GOD,

PRAYING.

WE CAME FROM DIFFERENT

CULTURES, DIFFERENT

COUNTRIES, DIFFERENT

LANGUAGES, DIFFERENT

CUSTOMS, BUT WHEN WE

MARRIED, WE PUT TOGETHER OUR

BELIEF IN JESUS AND GOD IN

THE MIDDLE.

THE CENTER OF MY LIFE IS

NOT MYSELF BUT GOD.

AND I SERVE GOD.

AND FOR ME GOD'S SERVICE IS

DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

I ALSO LEARNED THAT ANY REAL

PROGRESS CAN ONLY COME OUT

OF COMMITTED PEOPLE WHO

LISTEN TO GOD.

Terry: I LOVE WHEN

HILMAR SAID WHEN HE WAS

REALLY BEING SO CANDID AND

HONEST AND SELF-EVALUATING,

IT WAS MY UNCHRISTIAN LIFE

THAT MADE ME A TOOL.

YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DON'T KNOW

WHO WE ARE, WHEN WE DON'T

KNOW WHO GOD IS, WHEN WE'RE

JUST OUT THERE IN THE WORLD,

WE ARE SITTING TARGETS TO

BECOME TOOLS OF THE ENEMY OF

GOD TO BE USED AND MISUSED

TO HURT OTHERS, TO BE

OPERATING OUT OF OUR OWN

WOUNDEDNESS.

GOD HAS SO MUCH MORE THAN

THAT FOR US.

WE ARE CREATED IN HIS IMAGE

AND LIKENESS.

AND WHEN WE WALK WITH HIM,

WHEN WE ALLOW HIM TO BE

EVERYTHING THAT HE IS AND

WANTS TO BE TO US, IT

RADICALLY CHANGES OUR LIFE,

AS IT DID HIS, AND IT CAN

YOURS, TOO.

IF YOU'RE FEELING LOST TODAY

AND JUST SORT OF THE PAIN OF

LIFE, THE STUFF THAT

HAPPENS, AND YOU CAN'T GET A

LEG UP, CALL THE NUMBER ON

YOUR SCREEN AND ASK SOMEONE

TO PRAY WITH YOU.

THE PERSON ON THE OTHER END

OF THAT LINE HAS ALREADY

COMMITTED THEIR LIVES TO

JESUS CHRIST.

LET THEM PRAY WITH YOU.

GORDON?

Gordon: WE LEAVE YOU

WITH THIS WORD FROM THE

TORAH: "I CALL HEAVEN AND

EARTH TO WITNESS AGAINST YOU

TODAY, THAT I HAVE SET

BEFORE YOU LIFE AND DEATH,

BLESSING AND CURSE.

THEREFORE, CHOOSE LIFE, THAT

YOU AND YOUR OFFSPRING MAY

LIVE."

GOD BLESS YOU.

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