THIS FIRST ONE SAYS, "IS IT

WRONG TO HAVE SEX WITH MY

PARTNER WITH WHOM I'VE BEEN

LIVING TOGETHER FOR FOUR

YEARS.

PEOPLE SAY WE ARE COMMON

LAW, AND WE BOTH BELIEVE IN

GOD, AND I WAS BAPTIZED

RECENTLY."

Pat: WELL, GRAZELLE,

GOOD FOR YOU.

OUR ATTITUDES OF SEX ARE

BIZARRE TODAY.

THE BIBLE CALLS WHAT YOU'RE

DOING IS FORNICATION BECAUSE

YOU'RE NOT MARRIED.

AND SEX OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE

IS IMMORTALITY AND

FORNICATION.

NOW, AS I'VE SAID A NUMBER

OF TIMES, AND I'VE PROBABLY

SHOCKED PEOPLE, BUT I DO

BELIEVE IFAND YOUR

SIGNIFICANT OTHER WOULD

COMMIT YOURSELF TO A LIFE

TOGETHER, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO

BE SOLIDIFIED BY A JUSTICE

OF THE PEACE OR A PASTOR.

BUT TO GET THE BENEFITS OF

THE GOVERNMENT AND ALL OF

THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG

WITH IT, YOU WANT TO GET A

MARRIAGE LICENSE AND GET

MARRIED.

WHAT IS KEEPING YOU?

YOU'VE BEEN LIVING TOGETHER

FOR FOUR YEARS NOW, WHY

CAN'T YOU GET MARRIED?

WHAT IS HOLDING YOU BACK?

YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY LIVING

TOGETHER, SO YOU'RE HAVING

SEX TOGETHER, AND YOU'RE

LIVING LIKE MARRIED PEOPLE

ACT, BUT YOUR NOT MARRIED.

WHICH MEANS ONE OF YOU IS

NOT WILLING Tz TAKE ON THE

RESPONSIBILITIES OF A

MARRIAGE.

MARRIAGE IS A PRETTY GOOD

IDEA.

I'M COMING UP ON 60 YEARS.

Terry: AND I'M COMING

UP ON 33.

Pat: I HAVE 14

GRANDCHILDREN.

I HAVE -- I WAS GOING TO SAY

FOUR AND A HALF -- THE THING

ABOUT BE FRUITFUL AND

MULTIPLY WE HAVE TAKEN TO

HEART IN OUR FAMILY.

I'M LOOKING ON GOING ON

FIVE, FIVE AND A HALF

GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.

AND THEY'RE SO SWEET AND SO

PRECIOUS.

SO, DARLING, GET MARRIED.

STOP FOOLING AROUND.

AND BUILD A FAMILY AND BUILD

A LIFE TOGETHER.

Terry: THIS IS CAROL

WHO SAYS, "MY NIECE JUST

GRADUATED FROM A CATHOLIC

UNIVERSITY AND HAS NOW COME

HOW SHOULD I, AS A

CHRISTIAN, RESPOND TO THE

SITUATION WHEN I MEET HER

PARTNER AT FAMILY FUNCTIONS

AND AT HOLIDAYS?"

Pat: THE LAST THING YOU

WANT TO BE A JUDGEMENTAL.

YOU WANT TO BE LOVING AND

WARM AND LET THEM KNOW THAT

YOU LOVE THEM.

BUT YOU CANNOT ACCEPT THAT.

YOU CANNOT BE AN ENABLER.

IF THEY'RE LIVING TOGETHER

AS A HOMOSEXUAL AND YOU'RE A

CHRISTIAN, YOU CANNOT SAY I

EXCEPT THIS LIFESTYLE.

RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN

INCREDIBLE BARAGE OF

ACTIVITY, FORCING PEOPLE TO

ACCEPT THE HOMOSEXUAL

LIFESTYLE.

WELL, DO WE ACCEPT

ADULTERY?

DO WE ACCEPT FORNICATION?

IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE

GOING TO BE FORCED TO DO?

THE ANSWER IS, NO, I DON'T

THINK WE OUGHT TO BE

ACCEPTING OF IT.

BUT YOU NEED TO ALWAYS HAVE

LOVE.

THERE ARE SOME HOMOSEXUALS

WHO HAVE AN ENORMOUS

CAPACITY FOR ARTISTIC

EXPRESSION.

YOU FIND A LOT OF THIS IN

THE HOMOSEXUAL COMMUNITY.

AND VERY TALENTED PEOPLE.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO

HAVE LOVE.

I'M A GREAT ADVOCA

LOVE.

SO WE'RE NOT JUDGEMENTAL.

JUDGE NOT THAT YOU BE NOT

JUDGED.

SO WE'RE ACCEPTING.

AND WE'RE BLESSED.

BUT WHEN IT IS ALL SAID AND

DONE, WE CANNOT SAY WE'RE

GOING TO PUT THE CHRISTIAN

CHURCH OVER SOMETHING THAT

GOD HIMSELF CALLS A SIN.

Terry: THIS IS CARLIN

WHO SAYS, "MORE THAN 40

YEARS AGO I BECAME A BORN

AGAIN CHRISTIAN AND RECEIVED

THE GIFT OF SPEAKING IN

TONGUES.

I WAS PLAYING WITH A QUIJA

BOARD AND WEIRD THINGS

HAPPENED.

I NEVER PICKED IT UP AGAIN,

BUT I THINK SOMETHING

ATTACHED TO ME.

RECENTLY I WAS WATCHING A

NEWS REPORT ON THE MIDDLE

EAST, AND I NOTICED THAT MY

PRAYERS SOUND LIKE THAT.

I'M AFRAID I MIGHT NOT BE

PRAYING TO OUR LO$9ñ

I DO NOT HAVE THE GIFT OF

SPEAKING IN TONGUES, SO I

WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR

SUGGESTIONS."

Pat: I THINK YOU SHOULD

FIND A PASTOR THAT IS

KNOWLEDGE IABLABLE OF

WORKING IN THE HOLY SPIRIT.

YOU OUGHT TO SHARE THESE

THINGS WITH THAT PASTOR AND

SEE WHAT THE DEAL IS.

I THINK DEALING WITH OUIJA

BOARDS -- ANY TIME YOU

SUBMIT YOURSELF TO THE

OCCULT, YOU'RE KA ASKING

THE OCCULT TO TAKE OVER.

YOU THINK SOMEHOW GOD

ALLOWED SOME DEMON TO TAKE

YOU OVER -- I FIND THAT HARD

TO BELIEVE.

YOU NEED SOMEONE TO COUNSEL

YOU ON THAT.

Terry: BILL SAYS, "PAT,t BEEN A CHRISTIAN FORTKR

YEARS, BUT I'M OFTEN

TORMENTED BY FEAR AND

ANXIETY.

I KNOW THAT GOD SAYS PERFECT

LOVE CASTS OUT FEAR.

HOW DO I ASSIMILATE THAT TO

BE MORE REAL IN MY LIFE?"

Pat: ONCE UPON A TIME I

WAS IN AN AIRPLANE, AND THE

AIRPLANE STARTED GOING DOWN

IN THE CARRIBEAN.

AND I HAD TO MAKE A

CONSCIOUS DECISION THAT,

LORD, I'M READY(TN DIE.

IF THIS THING GOES DOWN, I'M

READY.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN PEACE

CAME INTO MY HEART.

YOU HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME

AND CONSCIOUSLY THINK ABOUT

IT.

SO WHAT IF I DIE?

IS THAT THE WORST THAT IS

GOING TO HAPPEN?

WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO

ME WHEN I DIE?

I LOVE JESUS.

WHEN I DIE, I'M GOING TO BE

WITH HIM.

I'LL BE IN PARADISE FOR ALL

ETERNITY.

SO WHAT HAVE I GOT TO BE

AGRAID OF?

AND YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH

THAT.

THAT'S THE ULTIMATE.

IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THE

DEATH QUESTION, THEN YOU CAN

DEAL WITH THESE OTHERS

BETTER THAN THAT.

BUT PERFECT LOVE CASTS OUT

FEAR.