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The 700 Club - June 4, 2014

Unresolved wounds from Kasey’s past lead to destructive behaviors in her marriage. Plus, best-selling author Josh McDowell shares his story of a tragic childhood that laid the foundation for his latest book and DVD, 'Undaunted.' Read Transcript


UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL

WITH GOVERNOR MIKE PENTS.

I PRAY OFTEN.

PLUS A WIFE AND MOM LEADS

A DOUBLE LIFE.

AT NIGHT, I WOULD BE A

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

PERSON.

UNTIL SHE GETS BUSTED.

I WAS SO DISGUSTED WITH

MYSELF.

I POPPED A BOTTLE OF ZAN

ZANEX.

AND I GOT UP THE COURAGE

AND TOLD MY MOTHER, AND SHE

WOULDN'T BELIEVE ME.

PLUS, JOSH MCDOWELL TELLS

THE SECRET HE HID FOR 50

YEARS.

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

FOLKS.

WE'VE GOT A GREAT PROGRAM

TODAY.

DO YOU GET UPSET ABOUT THE

RELEASE OF THIS PRISONER?

DOES THAT RING YOUR BELL AT

ALL?

Wendy: I'D LIKE TO HAVE

A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.

DID HE REALLY DESERT HIS

PEOPLE?

BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE

SAYING HE WAS A BAD GUY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A

LITTLE MORE INFO.

Pat: ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT GENERAL

DEMOCRACY SAYS.

LET'S NOT CONVICT SOMEBODY

UNTIL -- HE IS INNOCENT

UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY, BUT

THERE IS AN AWFUL LOT OF

STOP COMING OUT.

AMERICANS AND DEMANDING

ANSWERS, AND LAWMAKERS ARE

FUMING.

THEY WANT TO KNOW WHY OBAMA

SURRENDERED TOP TALIBAN

LEADERS TO RESCUE ONE

QUESTIONABLE P.O.W. LEADER.

Wendy: THE WHITE HOUSE

HAS CALLED BOWE BERGDAHL A

HERO, BUT HIS FELLOW

SOLDIERS ARE CALLING HIM A

DESERTER.

GEORGE THOMAS HAS THE

LATEST.

George: A NEW VIDEO

RELEASED BY THE TALIBAN

SHOWS A CLEAN-SHAVEN

BERGDAHL SITTING IN A PICKUP

TRUCK.

MOMENTS LATER A BLACKHAWK

HELICOPTER LANDS, AND HE IS

HANDED OVER.

THE EXCHANGE IS MADE AS

DOZENS OF FIGHTERS ARE ARMED

WATCH BY A HILLSIDE.

BERGDAHL'S RELEASE HAS

SPARKED A HUGE CONTROVERSY

WITH HIS FORMER SOLDIERS,

ACCUSING HIM OF DESERTING

AND PUTTING AMERICAN LIVES

AT RISK.

I FEEL LIKE HE DESERTED

US.

HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING

WHEN HE DESERTED US.

IT WAS PREMEDITATED.

IT WAS THOUGHT OUT.

George: FELLOW SOLDIERS

SAID THE 24-YEAR-OLD STARTED

COMPLAINING ABOUT AMERICA'S

ROLE IN AFGHANISTAN, AND

MONTHS INTO HIS DEPLOYMENT,

HE DISAPPEARED FROM HIS

BASE, LEADING HIS BODY ARMY,

HELMET, AND WEAPON BEHIND.

THE U.S. LAUNCHED A MASSIVE

SEARCH, WHICH AMOUNTED TO

DEATHS OF FELLOW SOLDIERS.

PEOPLE CALLING HIM THIS

GREAT SOLDIER, IT IS A SPIT

IN THE FACE TO THEç SOLDIERS

WHO DIED AS Aç DIRECT RESULT

TO HIM LEAVING.

George: THE ARMY SAYS

THEY WILL REVIEW HIS CASE TO

SEE IF ANY MISCONDUCT

OCCURRED.

REPUBLICANS WANT TO HOLD

HEARINGS ON WHETHER THE

PRESIDENT BROKE THE LAW BY

NOT CONSULTING CONGRESS ON

THE DEAL TO SWAP A U.S.

PROPOSITION NE PRISONER FOR

FIVE SENIOR TALIBAN

LEADERS.

IT IS ILL-FOUNDED, IT IS

A MISTAKE, AND IT IS PUTTING

THE LIVES OF AMERICAN

SERVICEMEN AND WOMEN AT

RISK.

George: THE PRESIDENT

APPARENTLY TOLD THE SENATE'S

TOP DEMOCRAT, HARRY REID,

THAT THE EXCHANGE WAS

EMINENT.

IT MUST HAVE BEEN EITHER THE

DAY BEFORE OR THE DAY OF.

I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE,

REID TOLD POLITICAL.

BUT STILL SOME DEMOCRATS ARE

UPSET ABOUT HOW IT ALL WENT

DOWN.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE WE

SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONSULTED.

George: BERGDAHL WAS

HELD BY THE TALIBAN FOR FIVE

YEARS.

HE IS NOW IN A MILITARY

HOSPITAL IN GERMANY, AND IS

EXPECTED TO RETURN TO THE

UNITED STATES LATER THIS

WEEK.

GEORGE THOMAS, CBN NEWS.

Pat: FOLKS, THE DEAL

WAS THAT THE VETERANS

ADMINISTRATION SCANDAL WAS

JUST RISING, AND OBAMA WAS

FIGHTING TO PROVE THAT HE

DID SOMETHING.

AND HIS POLL NUMBERS WERE

PLUMMETTING BECAUSE THE

VETERANS WERE GETTING A

LOUSY DEAL.

AND THE HOSPITALS WERE

INEFFICIENT, AND THE ENTIRE

MESS WAS COMING DON O DOWN

ON HIS HEAD.

HOW DOES HE GET OUT OF IT?

HE GETS ONE SOLDIER, AND HE

SAYS, LOOK, I'M FOR

SOLDIERS.

HERE IS THIS STAFF SERGEANT,

AND I'VE GOT HIM FREE.

SO I MADE A LITTLE SWAP FOR

HIM WITHOUT ASKING CONGRESS,

BUT I JUST WANTED TO DO THAT

BECAUSE I'M PRESIDENT, AND

THIS IS THE WAY I LOOK AT

IT.

SO I CONFERRED WITH MYSELF,

AND I SAID I WAS DOING OKAY,

SO MY JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND

MY STAFF AND THE WHITE HOUSE

TOLD ME I COULD GO AHEAD AND

DO IT.

SO I DIDN'T HAVE TO CONSULT

CONGRESS, DEMOCRAT OR

REPUBLICAN, BUT,

NEVERTHELESS, I'M GOING TO

HAVE A ROSE GARDEN CEREMONY,

AND I'M GOING TO SEND SUSAN

RICE TO THE SUNDAY MORNING

SHOWS.

AND SO SHE IS COMING OUT AND

SAYING THIS MAN SERVED

HONORABLY AND WITH

DISTINCTION AND ALL OF THIS

STUFF, AND IT TURNS OUT HE

IS A DESERTER.

SO THEY'VE GOT EGG ALL OVER

THEMSELVES, BUT IT WAS A

POLITICAL MOVE.

EVERYTHING HE DOES IS

POLITICAL.

UGH!

DOESN'T IT MAKE YOU SICK.

Wendy: HOW DO YOU

REALLY FEEL?

Pat: YOU KNOW I'M SO

LEVEL-HEADED ABOUT IT ALL.

A NEW REPORT SHOWS MORE

WIDESPREAD FAILURE IN

AMERICA'S VETERANS'

HOSPITALS.

AND NOW THE REPUBLICANS HAVE

A PLAN TO GIVE VETERANS

HEALTH CARE FREEDOM.

JOHN JESSUP HAS MORE.

HERE IS MORE.

Reporter: PAT,

REPUBLICANS PROPOSED A BILL

TO GUARANTEE VETERANS WILL

GET THE MEDICAL CARE THEY

NEED.

THE BILL, DRAFTED BY FOUR

G.O.P. SENATORS WOULD ALLOW

VETERANS TO SEE A PRIVATE

DOCTOR IF THEY'RE FORCED TO

WAIT TOO LONG FOR AN

APPOINTMENT AT THE V.A.

MEANWHILE, THE FEDERAL

INVESTIGATION INTO THE V.A.

STAND HAS EXPOSED MORE

ABUSE.

IN ADDITION TO THE SCANDAL

SURROUNDING THE PHOENIX

HOSPITAL, INVESTIGATORS

UNCOVERED SECRET WAITING

LISTS IN SIX OTHER STATES,

INCLUDING KANSAS, MISSOURI,

AND ILLINOIS.

OVER 100 VETERANS THERE

WAITED FOR APPOINTMENTS FOR

MORE THAN 90 DAYS.

A MAJOR HOSPITAL IN

TENNESSEE HAS LAID OFF MORE

THAN A THOUSAND WORKERS

BECAUSE OF OBAMACARE.

VANDAVANDERBILT HOSPITAL

TOOK THAT STEP AFTER A HALF

MILLION DROP AFTER THE NEW

LAW.

AND NOW THEY'RE EXPECTING A

$250 MILLION DECLINE OVER

THE NEXT TWO YEARS.

SO NOW THE HOSPITAL IS

TAKING OTHER DRASTIC STEPS,

DECREASING PAY AND BENEFITS

TO PRESERVE 2,000 OTHER

POSITIONS.

WELL, EXTREME WEATHER

BATTERED STATES ACROSS THE

MIDWEST ON TUESDAY.

TORRENTIAL RAINS, HIGH

WINDS, AND SEVERAL TORNADOES

WERE REPORTED IN IOWA AND

NEBRASKA.

85 MILES PER HOUR WINDS

UPROOTED TREES, TORE UP

ROOFS AND KNOCKED OVER

TRACTOR-TRAILERS.

IN OMAHA, NEARLY FOUR INCHES

OF RAIN TRIGGERED

EVACUATIONS.

HAIL SMASHED THROUGH CAR

WINDSHIELDS.

THE SEVERE WEATHER ARRIVED

DURING AN UNUSUALLY QUIET

SPRING WITH FAR FEWER

TORNADOES MARKED THAN IN

PREVIOUS YEARS.

PRESIDENT OBAMA HELD A

MEETING WITH THE NEW

PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE.

PETRO POROSHENKO WAS ELECTED

JUST 10 DAYS AGO.

THE UKRAINIAN MILITARY IS

STEPPING UP ITS OFFENSIVE.

TROOPS BROKE THROUGH THE

REBEL-HELD CITIES.

THE OFFICIALS ARE WARNING

RESIDENTS IN THE CITY AND

THE SURROUNDING AREAS TO

STAY AT HOME WHILE THEY

FIGHT THE INSURGENTS.

THAT WARNING COMES AS A

CHRISTIAN ORPHANAGE WAS

ATTACKED BY PRO-RUSSIAN

INSURGENTS.

THE CENTER IS PARTIALLY

SUPPORTED BY CBN NEWS'

"ORPHANS' PROMISE." NO

CHILDREN WERE HURT IN THE

ATTACK.

BUT "ORPHANS' PROMISE" HAS

MOVED ALL OF THE KIDS TO A

SAFE PLACE IN WESTERN

UKRAINE.

IN NIGERIA, 10 TOP MILITARY

OFFICERS WERE FOUND GUILTY

OF HELPING BOKO HARAM BY

PROVIDING THEM WITH WEAPONS

AND INFORMATION.

THE INFORMATION CAME MONTHS

AFTER POLITICIANS AND

SOLDIERS ACCUSED SOME SENIOR

OFFICERS OF AIDING THE

GROUP.

SECRET INFORMATION PROVIDED

BY THE OFFICERS HELPED

INSURGENTS AMBUSH MILITARY

CONVOYS AND ATTACK ARMY

BARRACKS.

AND SOME REPORTS SAY SOME

SOLDIERS FAULT WIT SOLDIERS

FOUGHT WITH INSURGENTS

DURING THE ATTACKS AND THEN

RETURNED TO ARMY CAMPS.

IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN A

MONTH AND THE 200 GIRLS ARE

STILL BEING HELD AGAINST

BOKO HARAM.

GARY LANE HAS THE STORY OF

ONE NIGERIAN SCHOOL GIRL WHO

OVERCAME A MURDEROUS ASSAULT

ON HER FAMILY.

Reporter: DEBRA PETERS

PLAYED WITH SOME OF THE 276

SCHOOL GIRLS KIDNAPPED BY

THE BOKO HARAM TERROR

GROUP.

SHE SAYS HER MOTHER ONCE

ATTENDED THE SAME SCHOOL

WHERE THE GIRLS WERE

KIDNAPPED.

DEBRA HAS EXPERIENCED HER

OWN HORRORS BY THE BOKO

HARAM.

ONE NIGHT JUST BEFORE

CHRISTMAS, SHE WATCHED AS

THREE GUNMAN ENTERED HER

HOUSE AND KILLED HER FATHER

BECAUSE HE REFUSED TO

DENOUNCE JESUS CHRIST.

AND THEY ALSO KILLED HER

BROTHER.

WHEN HE FOUGHT, HE

STARTED MOVING, AND SO THEY

GO AHEAD AND SHOOT HIM

AGAIN.

ONCE AGAIN IN HIS MOUTH, AND

HE FALL DOWN AND DIED.

SO I WAS -- I WAS IN SHOCK.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS

HAPPENING.

Reporter: DEBRA'S

MOTHER, A FORMER MUSLIM, WAS

AWAY FROM HOME AT THE TIME.

SHORTLY AFTER AMERICAN

CHILDREN OF 9/11 VICTIMS

INVITED DEBRA TO ATTEND A

CAMP IN THE U.S.

WHILE SHE SURVIVED A TERROR

ATTACK, SHE COULD NOT MAKE

IT THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF

THE STATE DEPARTMENT.

IT TWICE DENIED HER

REQUEST.

THE REASON SHE WAS DENIED

A VISA WAS BECAUSE THEY SAID

TO HER -- YOU CAN'T MAKE

THIS STUFF UP -- THEY SAID

TO HER, YOU DON'T HAVE

FAMILY TIES.

THEY ESSENTIALLY

RETRAUMATIZED A GIRL WHO'S

FAMILY WAS EXTERMINATED BY

TERRORISTS.

Reporter: SHE MADE IT

CLEAR WHY BOKO HARAM

TARGETED HER FAMILY.

IN IRAN, THEY SAY ANY

MUSLIM WHO DOESN'T RETURN IS

DEAD.

THEY DID ALL OF THIS BECAUSE

OF HER.

Reporter: YOU THINK IF

YOUR MOTHER HAD BEEN HOME,

THEY WOULD HAVE KILLED HER

AS WELL?

YES.

BECAUSE THEY WERE TARGETED

EVEN NOW.

THEY ARE LOOKING FOR HER.

IF THEY SEE HER, THEY WILL

KILL HER.

Reporter: WHY DID THEY

KILL YOUR FATHER?

BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, HE

IS A PASTOR.

AND THE SECOND ONE, HE

MARRIED MY MOTHER -- WHEN HE

MARRIED MY MOTHER, HE TURNED

MY MOTHER TO A CHRISTIAN.

SO THEY WERE ANGRY WITH

HIM.

Reporter: HAD YOUR

FATHER LED OTHER MUSLIMS TO

CHRISTIANITY?

YEAH.

Reporter: AGEPE

SUGGESTS WORLD LEADERS TAKE

A MORE AGGRESSIVE RESPONSE

TO STOP BOKO HARAM.

LET'S SNUFF THEM OUT

NOW.

THEY NOW KNOW WHAT WILL GET

OUR ATTENTION, AND THEY'RE

GOING TO KEEP, YOU KNOW,

PUTTING IT IN OUR FACES.

Reporter: AS FOR DEBRA,

SHE FINALLY RECEIVED A

STUDENT VISA, AND NOW

ATTENDS SCHOOL IN THE U.S.

SO WHAT DOES SHE WANT PEOPLE

TO LEARN FROM HER STORY?

THEY WILL UNDERSTAND AND

THEY WILL KNOW MORE, AND

MORE OF WHAT GOD SAYS.

AND THEY WILL, LIKE,

UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO

STAND STRONG.

Reporter: A 15-YEAR-OLD

NIGERIAN STUDENT STANDING

STRONG IN VICTORY OVER

ISLAMIC TERRORISM, AND

PRAYING THAT HER CHRISTIAN

FRIENDS WILL SOON BE

REUNITED WITH THEIR

FAMILIES.

GARY LANE, CBN NEWS.

Reporter: YOU CAN FIND

MORE OF GARY'S EXCLUSIVE

REPORTING ON HIS BLOG, THE

GLOBAL LANE, INCLUDING HIS

LATEST REPORT ON A CHINESE

CRACKDOWN ON CHRISTIANS.

JUST GO TO OUR WEBSITE,

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT, THAT'S ONE BRAVE YOUNG

GIRL.

Pat: WELL, SHE SURE

IS.

AND THE REST OF THEM ARE,

TOO.

I'LL TELL YOU, WHAT NEEDS TO

BE DONE, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS,

THIS GROUP NEEDS TO BE

ELIMINATED.

WE HAVE MILITARY FORCE.

I THINK IF WE HAD A COMPANY

OF NAVY SEALS, OR MAYBE A

COUPLE OF PLATOONS THAT MAY

MAKE UP A COMPANY, BUT A

COMPANY SIZE, WITH FULL

WEAPONERY, AND PUT THEM

WHERE THOSE PEOPLE ARE.

WE HAVE DRONE INTELLIGENCE

AND SATELLITE INTELLIGENCE,

AND WE CAN FIND OUT WHERE

THEY ARE.

IF WE WANT TO ASK THE

NIGERIANS TO GIVE US SOME

HONEST TROOPS TO BACK US UP,

THAT'S FINE.

BUT GO IN THERE WITH FULL

GUNS BLAZING WITH NO MERCY.

THEY'RE VICIOUS KILLERS.

AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO KILL

AND RAPE AND ROB UNTIL

SOMEBODY DOES SOMETHING TO

THEM.

WE NEED TO DO THAT.

WE CAN DO THAT.

AND IF PRESIDENT OBAMA WANTS

TO BE MACHO MAN, HE CAN BE

MACHO MAN WITH A GOOD

CONTINGENT OF SOME OF OUR

WELL-ARMED PEOPLE, FROM

SEALS, DELTA FORCE, OR

WHATEVER.

BUT FULLY ARMED AND WITH ALL

KINDS OF SUPPORT MATERIAL,

ESPECIALLY AIR POWER.

WE CAN DO IT.

WE NEED TO.

WENDY?

Wendy: ALL RIGHT.

WELL, UP NEXT, THE MAN WHO

WENT FROM THE CORN FIELD TO

CONGRESS TO THE GOVERNOR'S

MANSION.

THERE IS NO ROCKET

SCIENCE TO IT.

WE'RE JUST PUTTING IN THE

PRACTICE, THOSE COMMON SENSE

PRINCIPLES, LIVING WITHIN

OUR MEANS, LETTING PEOPLE

KEEP MORE OF WHAT THEY

EARN.

Wendy: WILL HIS NEXT

STOP BE THE WHITE HOUSE?

THAT'S THE QUESTION, COMING

UP.

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Pat: SOMETHING IS

HAPPENING IN THE HEARTLAND

OF AMERICA.

OKLAHOMA, KANSAS, INDIANA --

THERE IS A MOVING TOWARDS

VERY CONSERVATIVE

PRO-BUSINESS PRINCIPLES, AND

THE STATES ARE BOOMING.

THEIR ECONOMY IS BOOMING.

THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS

GOING DOWN.

AND JOBS ARE BEING

PROVIDED.

IT'S A VERY REFRESHING

THING.

AND THE NEW GOVERNOR IN

INDIANA, A GUY NAMED MIKE

PENCE, A FORMER CONGRESSMAN,

A TERRIFIC GUY, AND HE HAS

FOUGHT TO MAKE HIS STATE

BUSINESS-FRIENDLY.

HE HAS BATTLED WASHINGTON

OVER MEDICARE AND

OBAMACARE.

AND SOME ARE SAYING GOVERNOR

MIKE PENCE MIGHT EVEN BE

PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.

WE'LL HAVE TO SEE ABOUT

THAT.

BUT OUR DAVID BRODY WENT OUT

TO THE HEARTLAND IN INDIANA

FOR A CLOSER LOOK.

David: WHEN YOU MEET

MIKE PENCE, HE IS ALL

AMERICAN HEARTLAND, FROM A

CORN FIELD TO CONGRESS AND

NOW GOVERNOR.

I DON'T EVER REMEMBER,

EVEN IMAGINING, THAT THIS

GRANDSON OF AN IRISH

IMMIGRANT WOULD EVER HAVE

THE CHANCE TO LEAD MY STATE

AS GOVERNOR.

David: AND HE IS

MAKING THE MOST OF THE

OPPORTUNITY WITH AN APPROVAL

RATING OVER 60% AND ONE OF

THE TOP ECONOMIES IN THE

NATION.

INDIANA IS OPEN FOR TECH

BUSINESS ONCE AGAIN.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR

LEADERSHIP AND YOUR

BUSINESS.

David: THE NUMBERS

SHOW A CONSERVATIVE

BLUEPRINT FOR SUCCESS.

SEVEN STRAIGHT MONTHS OF JOB

GROWTH WITH UNEMPLOYMENT

UNDER 6%, LEADING THE NATION

IN NEW MANUFACTURING JOBS.

PLUS THROW IN TAX CUTS AND A

BUDGET SURPLUS FOR GOOD

MEASURE.

THERE IS NO ROCKET

SCIENCE TO IT.

WE'RE JUST PUTTING IN TO

PRACTICE THOSE COMMON SENSE

PRINCIPLES, LIVING WITHIN

OUR MEANS, LETTING PEOPLE

KEEP MORE OF WHAT THEY

EARN.

David: SOME G.O.P. BIG

WIGS ARE COURTING PENCE, AND

THE GOVERNOR IS LISTENING.

THEY SEE HIM AS AN IDEAL

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE,

PRO-LIFE CHRISTIAN, STRONG

ON SOCIAL ISSUES, A HAWK ON

DEFENSE, AND ECONOMICALLY

CONSERVATIVE.

GOVERNOR MIKE PENCE AND

THE FIRST LADY OF INDIANA

HEADED OVERSEAS TODAY ON A

FOREIGN TRADE MISSION.

David: HE IS TAKING

HIS PLATFORM TO THE

INTERNATIONAL STAGE, AND HE

IS GOING TO SPEAK AT

NATIONAL G.O.P. FUNCTIONS,

STOKING PRESIDENTIAL

INTEREST EVEN FURTHER.

EVERY TIME WE SPEAK, I

ALWAYS HAVE TO ASK YOU --

YOU KNOW I'M GOING TO ASK

YOU ABOUT A PRESIDENTIAL

RACE.

WE DID THIS LAST TIME.

JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO,

CONGRESSMAN PENCE AND I

DISCUSSED A 2012

PRESIDENTIAL RUN RIGHT THERE

IN HIS D.C. OFFICE.

THIS IS THE PART OF THE

INTERVIEW WHERE I ASK YOU

THE OBLIGATORY 2012

QUESTION, AND THIS IS THE

PART WHERE YOU SAY, YOU

KNOW, IT IS AN HONOR TO BE

CONSIDERED.

SO LET'S JUST GO THROUGH THE

FORMALITIES THERE.

HERE WE ARE AGAIN, TWO YEARS

LATER, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT

A MORE UNIQUE WAY TO POP THE

QUESTION.

FORGET ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK,

WHEN KAREN AND THE FAMILY

HEAR THESE -- THEY READ THE

NEWSPAPER, THEY HAVE GOOGLE,

DON'T THEY?

WHAT DO THEY THINK?

FORGET ABOUT YOU.

I CAN TELL YOU, ANY TIME

THAT I MENTION FOR THE

HIGHEST OFFICE IN THE LAND

IT'S A HUMBLING AND

ENCOURAGING THING FOR ME AND

FOR MY FAMILY.

BUT OUR FOCUS IS ON IND

IND.

INDIANA.

David: HE IS ALSO

KEENLY AWARE THAT THE BEST

SOLUTIONS NEED TO COME FROM

OUTSIDE THE BELTWAY.

I THINK WHAT CURE THIS

NATION WILL COME MORE FROM

OUR BELTWAYS THAN OUR

NATION'S CAPITAL.

THERE ARE JUST THINGS STATES

WILL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO DO

BETTER.

David: AND PENCE HAS

HIS HANDS FULL DOING THAT.

OBAMACARE NEEDS TO BE

REPEALED LOCK, STOCK, AND

BARREL.

David: HE SAYS HE

WON'T TAKE FEDERAL MONEY TO

EXPAND MEDICARE HERE UNLESS

IT IS DOWN THE INDIANA WAY.

IF WE COULD, IN EFFECT,

END TRADITIONAL MEDICAID IN

INDIANA FOR VIRTUALLY ALL OF

OUR CITIZENS AND REPLACE IT

WITH THE KIND OF

CONSUMER-DRIVEN HEALTH CARE

AND TRYING WITH THE HELP

INDIANA PLAN, WE WOULD BE

OPEN TO THAT.

David: SOME PEOPLE

CRITICIZE PENCE FOR EVEN

CONSIDERING TAKING THE

FEDERAL MONEY.

IT SAYS "THERE IS NOTHING

ALL THAT CONSERVATIVE ABOUT

THE STATE'S SPECIFIC PLANS

TO CAPTURE FEDERAL DOLLARS

EARMARKED FOR MEDICAID

EXPANSION."

BUT THE INDIANA PLAN IS

POPULAR WITH HOOSIERS

BECAUSE IT SETS UP PERSONAL

SAVINGS ACCOUNTS.

IN A WORD, INDIANA HAS

PROVEN IN THE LAST SIX YEARS

THAT CONSUMER-DRIVEN HEALTH

CARE WORKS.

David: THE OTHER BIG

ISSUE, EDUCATION, AND COMMON

CORE.

PENCE PICKED UP PRAISE FOR

MAKING INDIANA THE FIRST

STATE TO OPT OUT OF THE

CONTROVERSIAL NATIONAL

CURRICULUM, BUT CRITICS

COMPLAIN THAT HIS NEW

STANDARDS LOOK A LOT LIKE

COMMON CORE.

MICHELLE MACKEN SAYS PENCE'S

ATTEMPTS TO REPACKAGE THE

COMMON CORE STANDARDS IS

FOOLING NO ONE.

WHATEVER DIFFERENCES

PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE, ON THE

STANDARDS WE PRODUCED, THESE

WERE WRITTEN BY AHORA

HOOSIERS FOR HOOSIERS.

David: ONE ITEM NOT UP

FOR DEBATE, HIS FAITH.

JUST ABOUT EACH AND EVERY

DAY, I LIKE TO START OUT MY

DAY WITH A LITTLE BIT OF

TIME IN THE BOOK, A LITTLE

BIT OF TIME IN PRAYER.

AND THAT HAS BECOME EVEN

MORE IMPORTANT TO ME AS I'VE

SHOULDERED THE

RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS

OFFICE.

David: PENCE GAVE HIS

LIFE TO JESUS AS A COLLEGE

FRESHMAN, AND HE IS MINDFUL

OF 1 KINGS 3: "GIVE YOUR

SERVANT THEREFORE AN

UNDERSTANDING MIND TO GOVERN

YOUR PEOPLE, THAT I MAY

DISCERN BETWEEN GOOD AND

EVIL, FOR WHO IS ABLE TO

GOVERN THIS, YOUR GREAT

PEOPLE."

I PRAY FOR A

DISTINGUISHING HEART, TO

DISTINGUISH BETWEEN RIGHT

AND WRONG.

David: AND IN INDIANA,

IT IS GOVERNOR PENCE FOR

SUCH A TIME AS THIS.

DAVID BRODY, CBN NEWS, IN

INDIANAPOLIS, INDIANA.

Pat: I DON'T KNOW IF

DAVID IS GOING TO SIGN UP

FOR HER CAMPAIGN

COMMITTEE --

Wendy: HE HAS A VALIANT

EFFORT TO POP THAT

QUESTION.

Pat: BUT YOU'VE GOT

THESE GOVERNORS, LIKE JOHN

KASICH IN OHIO.

YOU HAVE A TREMENDOUS

GOVERNOR IN WISCONSIN.

AND YOU'VE GOT A TREMENDOUS

GOVERNOR IN KANSAS.

AND NOW YOU HAVE A

TREMENDOUS GOVERNOR IN

INDIANA.

THAT WHOLE CORE HAS A GREAT

RESURGENCE.

AND WE ARE THRILLED TO SEE

MEN OF THAT CALIBER TAKING

LEADERSHIP.

THEY COME UP WITH THE

INNOVATIONS THAT WASHINGTON

ONLY DREAMS ABOUT.

Wendy: IT IS GOING TO

MAKE IT HARDER TO DECIDE WHO

SHOULD BE PRESIDENT.

Pat: IT IS, BUT HE IS

AN EXTREMELY BRILLIANT

PERSON.

Wendy: COMING UP, HE IS

A FAMOUS AUTHOR WHO WAS A

VICTIM OF ABUSE.

I CAN'T PUT INTO WORDS AS

A 9-YEAR-OLD HOW THAT DOES.

Wendy: JOSH MCDOWELL

REVEALS THE SECRET HE KEPT

HIDDEN FOR 50 YEARS, AFTER

THIS.

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Wendy: FOR MORE THAN 50

YEARS, JOSH MCDOWELL HAS

BEEN A LEADING DEFENDER OF

THE CHRISTIAN FAITH, AND YET

DURING MOST OF THAT TIME,

JOSH HAJOSH HARBORED A

TERRIBLE SECRET, ONE HE

REVEALED TO OUR SCOTT ROSS.

Reporter: WHEN JOSH

MCDOWELL SPEAKS, YOUNG

PEOPLE LISTEN.

10MILLION OF THEM IN 115

COUNTRIES OVER HIS CAREER.

HE IS WELL-KNOWN FOR WRITING

EVIDENCE THAT DEMANDS A

VERDICT.

IRONICALLY, JOSH TRIED HIS

BEST TO DISAPPROVE

CHRISTIANITY AS A COLLEGE

STUDENT.

WHEN HIS RESEARCH LED HIM TO

THE TRUTH OF GOD'S

EXISTENCE, AND MORE OVER HIS

LOVE, JOSH COMMITTED HIS

LIFE TO SHARING THAT TRUTH

WITH PASSION.

HE IS HAPPILY MARRIED TO

DOTTIE, AND THEY HAVE KNOWN

A RICH FAMILY WITH FOUR

CHILDREN.

HIS OWN YOUTH WAS QUITE A

DIFFERENT STORY.

LET'S BACKTRACK A LITTLE.

THAT WAS NOT YOUR

BACKGROUND.

NO.

MY DAD WAS AN ALCOHOLIC AND

I WAS SEVERELY SEXUALLY

ABUSED.

Reporter: WITH YOUR DAD

BEING AN ALCOHOLIC, HOW DID

THAT AFFECT YOUR VIEW OF

LIFE OR FATHERHOOD.

WELL, WHEN YOU HAVE AN

ALCOHOLIC FATHER, I ALWAYS

FELT IT WAS MY FAULT.

AND THAT I WASN'T WORTH

HAVING A RELATIONSHIP WITH.

THAT'S HOW A LOT OF THAT

COMES OUT.

SO IT AFFECTS YOUR

SELF-IMAGE.

THAT YOU'RE NOT VALUABLE AS

A SON BECAUSE HE NEVER ONCE

SAID, I LOVE YOU OR KISSED

ME OR TOOK ME ANYWHERE TO BE

ALONE.

ANY TIME HE TOOK ME

SOMEWHERE IT WAS TO UNLOAD

THE TRUCK OR SOMETHING LIKE

THAT.

THERE WAS ALWAYS A REASON

FOR IT.

Reporter: WHERE WAS

YOUR MOTHER DURING ALL OF

THIS?

MY MOM WAS SICK QUITE A

BIT.

SHE COULDN'T HANDLE A LOT OF

IT.

I WOULD SEE MY MOTHER OUT IN

THE BARNS AND LYING IN THE

MUD BECAUSE MY FATHER HAD

BEAT HER TO A BLOODY PULP.

AND I WOULD BE KICKING ON

HIM AND BEATING ON HIM, AND

SAYING WHEN I'M STRONG

ENOUGH, I'LL KILL YOU.

Reporter: JOSH'S FATHER

WAS JUST ONE SOURCE OF

PAIN.

WHEN I WAS 6 YEARS OLD,

MY PARENTS HIRED A MAN BY

THE NAME OF WAYNE BAILEY TO

WORK ON THE FARM AS A COOK

AND A HOUSEKEEPER.

AND FROM THAT DAY ON,

WHENEVER MY MOTHER WOULD GO

DOWNTOWN SHOPPING OR MY

FOLKS WOULD GO AWAY FOR THE

WEEKEND, MY MOTHER WOULD

MARCH ME INTO WAYNE BAILEY'S

PLACE AND SAY YOU DO

EVERYTHING HE TELLS YOU TO

DO.

SO WHAT DO YOU DO AT SIX

YEARS OLD?

YOU DO WHAT WAYNE BAILEY

TELLS YOU.

AT 9 YEARS OLD, I GOT UP THE

COURAGE AND TOLD MY MOTHER

AND SHE WOULDN'T BELIEVE

ME.

I CAN'T PUT INTO WORDS HOW

YOU FEEL AT NINE YEARS OLD,

WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

YOU FEEL ISOLATED.

I DON'T THINK I EVER

EXPERIENCED SO MUCH FEAR IN

MY LIFE.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ALL

ALONE.

BECAUSE HERE IS A MAN DOING

THESE THINGS TO YOU AND

THOSE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO

PROTECT YOU DON'T HELP.

Reporter: THE ABUSE

STOPPED WHEN HE WAS BIG

ENOUGH TO PUSH THE MAN

AWAY.

HE MADE IT THROUGH HIGH

SCHOOL, BUT HAD ANOTHER

HEARTBREAK AROUND THE

CORNER.

I HEARD MY MOTHER CRYING,

AND I RAN INTO THE HOUSE.

AND SHE SAT UP IN BED, AND I

SAID WHAT'S WRONG?

AND SHE SAID, YOUR FATHER

HAS BROKEN MY HEART.

AND SHE REACHED OUT AND PUT

HER ARMS AROUND ME, AND SHE

SAID, I'VE LOST THE WILL TO

LIVE, SON.

ALL I WANT TO DO IS LIVE

UNTIL YOU GRADUATE, AND THEN

I JUST WANT TO DIE.

AND TWO MONTHS LATER I

GRADUATED, AND THE NEXT

FRIDAY, THE 13th, SHE UP

AND DIED.

Reporter: WHERE DID THE

ENCOUNTER WITH GOD COME

FROM?

IT CAME OUT OF BITTERNESS

AND RESENTMENT.

I MET SOME STUDENTS AND

PROFESSORS WHO'S LIVES WERE

REALLY DIFFERENT.

Reporter: SO SHE MADE

FRIENDS WITH ONE GIRL AND

ASKED HER WHY THEY'RE SO

LOVING TO PEOPLE.

AND SHE SAID ONE WORD: JESUS

CHRIST.

I BLU I BLEW UP.

I SAID I'M SICK AND TIRED OF

THAT TRASH, CHRISTIANS AND

BIBLE ANDç CHURCH.ç

AND SHE SAID, I DIDN'T TELL

YOU THE CHRISTIANS AND BIBLE

AND CHURCH.

I TOLD YOU THE PERSON OF

JESUS CHRIST.

AND I APOLOGIZED TO HER

BECAUSE MY MOTHER DIDN'T

RAISE ME TO BE RUDE.

AND SHE CHALLENGED ME

INTELLECTUALLY.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS THE SON

OF GOD.

I REALLY BELIEVED THAT

CHRISTIANS HAD TWO BRAINS,

ONE WAS LOST AND THE OTHER

WAS OUTLOOKING FOR IT.

I REALLY THOUGHT CHRISTIANS

WERE IDIOTS.

Reporter: SO HE

TRAVELLED THROUGHOUT EUROPE,

HOPING TO GATHER EVIDENCE OF

THAT CHRISTIANITY WASN'T

TRUE, BUT WHAT HE FOUND WAS

THE OPPOSITE.

IT LED TO A PROCESS OF

RETURNING TO THE UNIVERSITY

WHERE I COULDN'T CHEAP.

I LEANED BACK IN MY CHAIR,

CUPPED MY HANDS BEHIND MY

HEAD, AND I SAID, IT'S

TRUE.

IT'S TRUE.

IT'S TRUE.

SO DECEMBER 19th, AT 8:30

AT NIGHT, I BECAME A

CHRISTIAN.

Reporter: MCDOWELL

WASTED NO TIME TELLING

OTHERS WHAT HE DISCOVERED.

AFTER FIVE DECADES OF

TALKING TW TO AND WITH

YOUNG ADULTS, HE IS AN

EXPERT ON YOUTH CULTURE.

EVERYWHERE I GO, I TALK

ABOUT MY WIFE.

I'M ONE OF THE LUCKIEST MEN

IN THE WORLD TO BE MARRIED

TO DOTTIE.

BECAUSE IT IS NOT ALL OF MY

DEGREES OR BOOKS, BUT I'M

KNOWN AS A MAN WHO SPENDS

TIME WITH HIS WIFE AND LOVES

HIS CHILDREN.

Reporter: JOSH'S LATEST

BOOK AND D.V.D. BRING TO

LIFE THE WHOLE, PAINFUL

TRUTH OF HIS CHILDHOOD.

"UNDAUNTED" IS A STUNNING

STORY OF FORGIVENESS AND

TRANSFORMATION.

Reporter: IF SOMEBODY

IS GOING TO WRITE YOUR

OBITUARY ONE DAY, WHAT DO

YOU WANT IT TO SAY?

HE WAS KNOWN FOR LOVING

HIS WIFE AND SPENDING TIME

WITH HIS CHILDREN.

Reporter: NOT WRITING

BOOKS, DOING TV OR VIDEOS,

NO?

NO.

AND IF THERE IS ONE PHRASE,

GOD BECAME MAN, AND HE IS

JESUS, AND HE IS PASSIONATE

ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH

YOU.

Wendy: WOW, POWERFUL.

JOSH, MCDOWELL, I HAVE TO

TELL YOU YOUR BOOK, "MORE

THAN A CARPENTER," HELPED

LEAD ME TO CHRIST MORE THAN

20 YEARS AGO.

IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT MORE

ABOUT JOSH MCDOWELL'S LIFE,

THE BOOK IS CALLED

"UNDAUNTED," AND WE'VE GOT

THE D.V.D. AND THE BOOK.

AND THEY'RE AVAILABLE

NATIONWIDE.

PAT, THAT WAS RIVETING.

Pat: IT IS SO MOVING

BECAUSE IT CAME FROM HIS

HEART.

YOU CAN SEE HE WAS RELIVING

THAT PAIN.

WHAT A HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE

TO COME THROUGH, AND YET TO

COME OUT SO GENTLE AND KIND

AND LOVING AND A WONDERFUL

FATHER AND HUSBAND.

Wendy: SOME OF THE TIME

WHEN YOU SEE THESE PEOPLE

WHO HAVE INCREDIBLE

MINISTRIES AND BOOKS, THERE

IS A VERY PAINFUL PAST.

Pat: THAT WAS HIS

CASE.

Wendy: WELL, STILL

AHEAD, WE'VE GOT YOUR

E-MAIL.

ONE VIEWER WRITES, "WHEN WE

SAY THE SALVATION PRAYER, IS

SALVATION INSTANT?

AND CAN SALVATION BE LOST?"

WE'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION

AND MUCH MORE WHEN WE "BRING

IT ON," AFTER THIS.

WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700

CLUB."

25 YEARS AGO TODAY CHINESE

TROOPS CRACKED DOWN ON

PRO-DEDEMOCRACY PROTESTORS

IN TIANANMEN SQUARE.

IT LEFT HUNDREDS DEAD AND

PLUNGED THE COUNTRY INTO

CHAOS.

EVERY JUNE 4th THE

COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT

TIGHTENS SECURITY, BUT ON

THIS 25th ANNIVERSARY, IT

IS EVEN TOUGHER.

ONE CHINA EXPERT SAYS THE

TIANANMEN CRACKDOWN HELPED

THE CHURCH'S GROWTH IN

CHINA.

A PROFESSOR SAYS THE

MASSACRE CAUSED MANY CHINESE

ELITES TO LOSE FAITH IN

COMMUNISM AND BEGIN

CHRISTIANITY.

A TEA PARTY CHALLENGER COULD

UNSEAT A SIX-TERM SENATE

REPUBLICAN.

CHRIS McDANIEL HAS

VIRTUALLY TIED SENATOR THAD

COCHRANE IN THE MISSISSIPPI

PRIMARY.

NOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT A

POSSIBLE RUNOFF VOTE ON

JUNE 24th.

AND REPUBLICANS BELIEVE THEY

MADE OTHER GAINS IN

TUESDAY'S PRIMARIES THAT

COULD PUT THEM ON TRACK TO

REGAIN CONTROL OF THE

SENATE.

YOU CAN ALWAYS GET THE

LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND WENDY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

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Wendy: WELL, PAT, AS

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MANY

WONDERFUL VIEWERS OF "THE

700 CLUB."

AND THEY OFTEN WRITE TO TELL

US WHAT THEY LIKE ABOUT THE

SHOW.

KAREN WRITES, "FIRST OF ALL,

I WOULD LIKE TO SAY I WATCH

YOUR PROGRAM MOST NIGHTS AND

I'M ENCOURAGED AND UP LIFTED

BY WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL

THAT YOU'RE DOING TO MAKE

THIS TELEVISED PROGRAM

POSSIBLE, AND ALL YOU'RE

DOING IN OTHER COUNTRIES AND

THE FOR THE ORPHANS."

AND JOANNE SAYS, "THANK YOU

SO MUCH FOR BEING THERE WHEN

PEOPLE NEED SOMEONE TO PRAY

WITH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE

TIMES YOU PRAYED FOR ME.

RECENTLY I WAS ACCUSED OF

DOING SOMETHING AT WORK,

WHICH I DID NOT DO.

AS A RESULT, I HAD TO GO TO

WORK IN A DIFFERENT

DEPARTMENT THAN I NORMALLY

WORK IN AND MY HOURS WERE

CUT.

OF COURSE I PRAYED, BUT ONE

DAY THE LORD TOLD ME TO CALL

YOUR PRAYER LINE.

A WONDERFUL PERSON PRAYED

WITH ME.

GOD GAVE ME COMPLETE FAVOR,

AND I'M BACK IN MY

DEPARTMENT, DOING MY OLD

JOB, AND MY ACCUSER IS

GONE."

A VIEW WRITES, "WHEN YOU'RE

TRULY SORE TO GOD AND REPENT

BY SAYING THE SALVATION

PRAYER, IS SALVATION

INSTANT?

IS IT PERMANENT?

IF NOT, CAN IT BE LOST?"

Pat: YOU'VE ASKED A LOT

OF QUESTIONS THAT THE THEE

THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING

FOR GENERATIONS.

IF WE GIVE OURSELVES TO THE

LORD, AND THE SPIRIT OF GOD

COMES WITHIN US, AND THE

SPIRIT COMES IN US, WE'RE

CHILDREN THE GOD.

JOHN SAYS, IF YOU WALK IN

THE LIGHT, THE FELLOWSHIP OF

BROTHER BINDS US FROM ALL

SIN.

THE WHOLE THING IS YOU HAVE

GIVEN YOURSELF TO THE LORD,

AND NOW YOU'RE WALKING WITH

HIM.

WHEN YOU GIVE YOURSELF TO

JESUS, IT IS A TRANSACTION

WHERE THE HOLY SPIRIT COMES

IN.

IT ISN'T SOME CREED.

IT ISN'T SOME ATTENDANCE IN

SOME CHURCH.

IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT COMING

IN YOU.

AND AS MANY ARE LED BY THE

HOLY SPIRIT, THEY'RE THE

SONS OF GOD.

SO THERE IS A RELATIONSHIP.

AND YOU WALK IN THE SPIRIT,

WALK IN THE WORD ACCORDING

TO HIS TEACHING.

THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL

ABOUT.

AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO

WORRY ABOUT, AM I GOING

TO -- I DON'T SPEND A LOT OF

TIME THINKING ABOUT AM I

SAVED?

I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO GO

TO HEAVEN.

AND WE THINK ABOUT HEAVEN.

AND PAUL SAYS, I'VE DONE

EVERYTHING THAT I MIGHT

ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF

THE DEAD.

IS GOD GOING TO KICK ME OUT

OF HEAVEN?

WE'RE ADOPTED INTO THE

FAMILY OF GOD.

YOU CAN'T IMAGINE AN ADOPTED

CHILD, AND YOU SAY TO HIM,

IF YOU DON'T EAT YOUR PEAS

FOR DINNER, I'M GOING TO

KICK YOU OUT OF THE FAMILY.

GOD LOVES YOU.

IT'S A WALK.

Wendy: NICHOLAS WRITES,

"I'M 20, AND I NEVER HAVE

HAD TROUBLE SLEEPING UNTIL

NOW.

LATELY I'VE BEEN WIDE AWAKE

AT NIGHT, AND I PRAY TO GET

TIRED, BUT IT DOESN'T HELP.

WHY WON'T GOD MAKE ME SLEEP

IF HE IS ABLE TO DO THAT?"

Pat: GODç DOESN'T MAKEç

PEOPLE SLEEP.

IT MAY BE YOUR TROUBLED.

YOU'VE GOT SOMETHING GOINGñ

ON IN YOUR BUSINESS OR LIFEñ

THAT IS EXCITING, AND THERE

IS A CHALLENGE AHEAD OF YOU,

OR THERE IS SOMETHING YOU

FEEL GUILTY ABOUT.

SO YOU NEED TO GET SOME

REST.

I'M A GREAT FAN OF

MELATONIN.

IT IS A TREMENDOUS THING.

IT IS A HORMONE, BUT IT IS

NATURAL AND IT DOESN'T HURT

YOU.

ONE MILLIGRAM, TWO

MILLIGRAMS.

IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL DOPE

PEY AND SLEEPY THE NEXT

DAY, YOU'VE TAKEN TOO MUCH.

SOME OF THE PROFESSORS WHO

TEACH ON LONGEVITY INDICATE

THAT MELATONIN IS REALLY

GOOD FOR YOU.

Wendy: AND NICHOLAS, HE

IS PRAYING TO GET TIRED.

I KNOW IF I HAVE A GOOD

WORKOUT DURING THE DAY, THAT

HELPS ME SLEEP BETTER AT

NIGHT.

Pat: IT SOMETIMES DOES

AND SOMETIMES DOESN'T.

Wendy: THAT'S TRUE.

IT DEPENDS ON WHAT TIME.

Pat: BEFORE YOU GO TO

BED, DON'T SPEND A LOT OF

TIME WATCHING EXCITING

TELEVISION, AND DON'T BE

THINKING ABOUT BUSINESS

DEALS, OR DON'T BE

WORRYING.

BUT MELATONIN.

Wendy: ALL RIGHT.

Pat: AN HOUR OR SO

BEFORE YOU GO TO BED.

Wendy: ANOTHER VIEWER

WRITES, "WHO WROTE THE BOOK

OF JAMES?

DID JESUS HAVE A DEPIPE AND

DISCIPLE BY THAT NAME?"

Pat: YOU FIND IT, IS

JAMES THE BROTHER OF THE

LORD?

MARTIN LUTHER IDENTIFIES

JAMES AS THE BROTHER OF THE

LORD.

Wendy: ABRAHAM WRITES,

"I WAS JUST WONDERING IF GOD

HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR?"

Pat: WELL, HE WOULDN'T

HAVE US DOING TELEVISION IF

HE DIDN'T HAVE A SENSE OF

HUMOR.

OF COURSE HE HAS A SENSE OF

HUMOR.

LAUGHTER COMES FROM THE

LORD.

THERE IS JOY IN THE

MORNING.

YOU READ, WHERE WERE YOU

WHEN I CREATED THE EARTH AND

THE MORNING STARS SANG FOR

JOY?

YOU SEE THAT, THE MORNING

STARS -- IN ALL OF THE

UNIVERSE THERE IS THE SONG

OF JOY.

GOD IS A GOD OF JOY.

OF COURSE HE IS.

HE IS NOT A GOD OF GLOOM AND

DOOM.

HE IS A GOD OF JOY.

AT LEAST I THINK SO.

Wendy: I BELIEVE YOU.

KEITH WRITES, "I AM A

74-YEAR-OLD SPIRIT-FILLED

SEMINARY GRADUATE AND BIBLE

TEACHER.

I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL

CALLED OUT HEALINGS FOR

LOWER BACK TROUBLE AND

DIABETIC LEG PAINS ON "THE

700 CLUB."

IN ALL CASES I CLAIMED THE

HEALINGS AND FELT THE POWER

OF GOD.

BUT THE HEALINGS LASTED

THREE OR FOUR DAYS AND THEN

FIZZLED OUT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY I

CAN'T STAY HEALED."

Pat: OF COURSE, YOU

DON'T BELIEVE YOU'RE

ENTITLED TO IT.

PETER WAS WALKING ON THE

WATER, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN

HE BEGAN TO LOOK AT THE

WAVES.

HE THOUGHT, I'M A FISHERMAN,

AND I'M OUT HERE WALKING ON

WATER.

THE MINUTE HE BEGAN TO THINK

THAT, HE BEGAN TO SANK.

KEEP YOUR EYES ON JESUS.

THANK HIM AND PRAISE HIM,

AND DON'T LET DOUBT COME

INTO YOUR MIND.

THE DEVIL WILL DO EVERYTHING

TO TAKE YOUR FAITH AWAY AND

HE WILL PUT DOUBT IN YOUR

MIND.

JUST LIKE PETER, A GREAT

APOSTLE, AND HE STARTS TO

SINK BECAUSE HIS MIND GOT

OFF OF JESUS AND ON TO THE

WAVES.

GET YOUR MIND OFF THE

WAVES.

STOP LOOKING AT YOUR

SYMPTOMS.

MY HAND SHOULD REALLY NOT

FEEL THIS GOOD.

PRAISE GOD, MY HAND IS

FIXED, AND IT'S DONE.

Wendy: BELIEVE WHAT YOU

RECEIVED AND ASKED FOR IN

PRAYER.

Pat: AND DON'T LET GO.

LEO BEETLE IS A COMPUTER

WHIZ.

BUT LEO WASN'T AS SMART WHEN

IT CAME TO MANAGING MONEY.

HIS FAMILY WAS DEEP IN DEBT

UNTIL THEY FOUND A WAY TO

GET OUT OF DEBT.

Reporter: LEO AND RINA

BEETLE DIDN'T WORRY MUCH

ABOUT FINANCES.

HE MADE A GOOD LIVING AS A

NETWORK SYSTEMS ENGINEER FOR

AN OIL COMPANY.

THEN LEO STARTED HIS OWN

COMPUTER BUSINESS AND THE

TROUBLE STARTED.

WE WENT INTO THIS

BUSINESS, NO CAPITAL.

NO REAL BUSINESS PLAN.

NO REAL COSTUMERS.

Reporter: THE FIRST TWO

YEARS, LEO STRUGGLED TO

BUILD HIS CLIENT BASE.

BY THIS TIME, THE COUPLE HAD

FIVE BOYS.

THEY USED CREDIT CARDS TO

PAY FOR THEIR PERSONAL AND

BUSINESS NEEDS.

SOON THEY WERE $60,00,000

IN DEBT.

WE WERE ALWAYS TRYING TO

BORROW FROM PETER TO PAY

PAUL.

WE WERE PAYING MINIMUM

PAYMENTS, AND IT JUST KEPT

RUNNING A TAB.

Reporter: EVENTUALLY

THE COUPLE FELL BEHIND ON

BILLS AND COULDN'T PAY THEIR

MORTGAGE.

THEY FILED CHAPTER 7

BANKRUPTCY AND LOST THEIR

HOME.

I WENT THROUGH EVERY ROOM

AND I SAT ON THAT PACKED

BOX.

AND I SAID GOOD-BYE.

AND I THANKED GOD FOR THE

TIMES THAT WE HAD HAD

THERE.

Reporter: THE FAMILY

MOVED INTO AN APARTMENT AND

HAD TO USE FOOD STAMPS AND

SHOPç ATç SECOND-HAND STORES

FOR THEIR KIDS.

JOHN, THEIR OLDEST SON,

REMEMBERS WHEN THEY WENT

THROUGH A THRIFT STORE TO

BUY HIM SHOES.

50 CENTS WE PAID FOR THIS

PAIR OF SHOES.

THE SOLE WASN'T EVEN THERE.

Reporter: ONE DAY THE

COUPLE WAS WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB," AND MADE A DONATION.

LATER CBN SENT THEM A

TEACHING ON FINANCES.

THE BEETLES LEARNED HOW TO

LIVE ON A BUDGET AND

CONSISTENTLY TITHED.

GOD SAYS TEST ME, IF I

WON'T OPEN THE WINDOWS OF

HEAVEN.

Reporter: IN A FEW

MONTHS, LEO RECEIVED A

MESSAGE FROM A FRIEND ABOUT

A POSITION THAT PAID

$90,000.

IT IS LIKE THE PRODIGAL

SON RETURNING.

THAT'S WHAT IT FELT LIKE.

Reporter: RINA ALSO GOT

A FULL-TIME JOB WITH A LOCAL

NEWSPAPER.

AND THEN A YEAR LATER, THEY

WERE SELECTED TO PARTICIPATE

IN THE TV REALITY SHOW,

"MEET MR. MOM."

THEY WON $25,000.

THEY KNEW IT WASN'T LUCK.

HE WILL GET MONEY TO YOU,

YOU KNOW, IN THE STRANGEST

WAY SOMETIMES.

Reporter: THEY BUILT UP

THEIR SAVINGS AND STAYED OUT

OF DEBT.

AND THEY ALSO TAUGHT THEIR

SONS THE IMPORTANCE OF

LIVING ON A BUDGET AND

TITHING.

I'VE GIVEN BACK TO THE

HOUSE OF GOD.

Reporter: THE FAMILY

SAYS BEING OBBEET AND

OBEDIENT AND TRUSTING GOD

LEADS TO FINANCIAL

BLESSINGS.

GOD WAS THERE IN

EVERYTHING.

SO WE WERE ABLE TO COME OUT

A SUCCESS.

JUST GIVE.

JUST BE OBEDIENT.

OBEY THE FATHER, AND YOU

WILL REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

Pat: A COUPLE OF THINGS

IN THAT STORY THAT YOU NEED

TO BE AWARE OF.

FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU'RE

CAPABLE OF HANDLING YOUR

MONEY PROPERLY, GOD WILL

GIVE YOU MORE OF IT.

I THINK THE TROUBLE WITH

THEM AT FIRST WAS THEY

DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THEY WERE

DOING.

I TALKED TO A JEWISH RABBI,

A DEAR FRIEND HE WAS HERE ON

THE SHOW, AND I SAID THE

HEBREW WORD IS MONEY, AND

WE'VE GOT THAT WORD IN

ENGLISH, MONEY, AND IT HAS

TO DO WITH CURRENCY, AND HE

SAID, IT ALSO HAD TO DO WITH

WISDOM.

THE CONCEPT OF THAT WORD IS

WISDOM.

AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE

WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING ARE

THE ONES WHO HAVE THE

MONEY.

YOU HAVE TO LEARN HOW TO

HANDLE IT.

ONCE YOU SAY, I'VE LEARNED

HOW TO HANDLE IT, I'M A GOOD

STEWART, AND GOD WILL START

PUTTING IT IN YOUR HAND.

AND THE OTHER THING IS GIVE,

AND IT WILL BE GIVEN UNTO

YOU.

SO HE STOPPED THE LEAKAGE ON

THE ONE HAND AND OPENED THE

WINDOWS OF HEAVEN, ON THE

OTHER HAND, AND LOOK WHAT

HAPPENED.

WE HAVE SOMETHING WE WANT TO

GIVE YOU, AND IT'S CALLED

"LIVING ON GOD'S BLESSING."

I DID A FEAST AT THE

TABERNACLES, AND I COULD

HARDLY STAND UP.

THERE WAS SUCH AN ANOINTING

IN THAT ROOM.

GORDON HAS A TEACHING IN

HERE, BOTH OF US, AND SO YOU

CAN HAVE "LIVING UNDER GOD'S

BLESSING," A C.D. AND

D.V.D.

THIS IS A D.V.D.

Wendy: YES.

Pat: YOU SEE THE

PICTURE.

Wendy: YOU SEE THE

PICTURE.

Pat: THE C.D. YOU CAN

LISTEN TO.

THIS IS A D.V.D.

AND WE'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU

WHEN YOU JOIN "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

IT IS JUST 65 CENTS A DAY.

PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL

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1-800-759-0700.

AND THERE IS MORE.

AND HERE IS WENDY.

Wendy: ALL RIGHTY.

THANKS.

UP NEXT, SHE PROMISED TO

SAVE HERSELF FOR MARRIAGE,

AND THEN SHE WAS RAPED.

I HAD KEPT MY PROMISE,

BUT GOD HAD NOT KEPT HIS.

AND HE HAD FAILED ME.

AND SO I JUST DECIDED THAT

IF THAT IS WHAT HE WAS GOING

TO DO TO ME, WATCH WHAT I

WAS ABOUT TO DO TO HIM.

Wendy: SEE WHERE THAT

THREAT LED THIS WOMAN, WHEN

WE COME BACK.

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Pat: WELCOME BACK.

A LITTLE PROGRAM NOTE.

WE'VE GOT A TREAT FOR YOU

TOMORROW.

I HOPE IT IS A TREAT.

I'VE GOT THAT GREAT BIG

HORSE YOU FOLLOW DOING SOME

RATHER BEAUTIFUL TRISAGE

MOVES.

IT WILL BE ON THE SHOW

TOMORROW.

SO IF YOU LIKE WATCHING ME

DO STUFF, IT WILL BE THERE.

IF YOU LIKE WATCHING A

HORSE, IT WILL BE THERE.

TUNE IN TOMORROW.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS THAT

ONE.

THE GRAND PRIX TRISAGE.

BY DAY, TRACY VAN NORMAN

PLAYED THE ROLE OF A LOVING

WIFE AND MOTHER.

BUT AT NIGHT SHE MORVED

MORPHED INTO A STRANGER.

CASEY LIVED A DOUBLE LIFE

FOR YEARS UNTIL HER SECRET

IDENTITY WAS BUSTED BY HER

OWN HUSBAND.

WHEN CASEY VAN NORMAN WAS

13, HER PARENTS DIVORCED.

AS A CHILD, NOT HAVING MY

FATHER PRESENT, JUST THAT

QUESTION OF WHY WAS I NOT

ENOUGH, YOU KNOW?

SO 13, 14, 15, I REALLY

WRESTLED WITH THIS FEELING

OF INSECURITY AND ONE

WORTHINESS.

Reporter: THOSE

FEELINGS WOULD ONLY GET

WORSE.

TRACY BECAME A CHRISTIAN,

AND AT 15 SHE MADE A PROMISE

TO GOD TO SAVE HERSELF FOR

MARRIAGE.

A FEW MONTHS LATER, SHE WAS

RAPED BY AN OLDER MAN.

WHAT I REALLY FELT IN

THAT MOMENT WAS THAT I HAD

KEPT MY PROMISE, BUT GOD HAD

NOT KEPT HIS.

AND HE HAD FAILED ME.

AND SO I JUST DECIDED THAT

IF THAT'S WHAT HE WAS GOING

TO DO TO ME, THEN WATCH WHAT

I WAS ABOUT TO DO TO HIM.

Reporter: SOON CASEY

WAS TAKING DRUGS AND HAVING

SEX.

SHE ALSO STARTED CUTTING AND

BECAME BULEMIC.

I USED EVERY BAND-AID YOU

COULD THINK ABOUT, SEX,

ALCOHOL, DRUGS, POPULARITY.

Reporter: AFTER YEARS

OF STRUGGLING, CASEY

RECOMMITTED HER LIFE TO

CHRIST.

SHE MET AND MARRIED JUSTIN

AND HAD TWO CHILDREN.

BUT SHE HADN'T LEARNED TO

ACCEPT GOD'S GIFT OF LOVE.

I WANTED TO WORK FOR

HIM.

I WANTED TO EARN THAT LOVE.

AS LONG AS I COULD STAY BUSY

IN THE THINGS OF GOD,

EVERYBODY WOULD THINK I WAS

OF GOD.

Reporter: AS MUCH AS

SHE TRIED, SHE COULDN'T GET

RID OF THE FEELINGS OF

INSECURITY AND UNWORTHINESS,

AND SOON RETURNED TO OLD

HABITS.

DURING THE DAY I WOULD

LIVE WHAT LOOKED TO BE THIS

VERY RIGHTEOUS, MORAL LIFE,

AND AT NIGHT I WOULD BE A

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

PERSON.

CUTTING MY ARMS JUST TO

EXPERIENCE ONE MOMENT OF

POWER.

STICKING MY FINGER DOWN MY

THROAT.

Reporter: JUSTIN ADMITS

SHE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS

HAPPENING TO HIS WIFE.

I WAS BUSY PROVIDING FOR

OUR FAMILY, TRYING TO EARN A

GOOD LIVING.

WE WERE TEACHING SUNDAY

SCHOOL AND DOING THINGS AT

THE CHURCH.

I BASICALLY STOPPED BEING

ROM MAS ROMANTIC WITH

CASEY.

Reporter: BUT A FELLOW

CHURCH MEMBER WAS READY TO

GIVE CASEY ALL OF THE

ATTENTION SHE WANTED.

ANOTHER MAN BEGAN TO

PURSUE ME.

BEGAN TO NOTICE THINGS THAT

JUSTIN DIDN'T SEEM TO

NOTICE, AND I RESPONDED.

Reporter: IT WAS THE

BEGINNING OF A

THREE-YEAR-LONG AFFAIR.

EVENTUALLY JUSTIN DISCOVERED

IT.

WHILE IT WAS HARD, JUSTIN

FORGAVE HIS WIFE.

IN THAT MOMENT, IT ALL

BEGAN VERY CLEAR TO ME THAT

I WAS AS MUCH AT FAULT IN

LETTING THE BOUNDARIES AND

GUARD DOWN THAT WE SHOULD

HAVE HAD WITH OUR MARRIAGE

BUT DIDN'T.

Reporter: BUT CASEY WAS

OVERCOME WITH GUILT.

I WAS SO DISGUSTED WITH

MYSELF.

I REALLY BELIEVED THAT MY

FAMILY AND MY HUSBAND WOULD

BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT ME.

I POPPED A BOTTLE OF XANAX

AND A WHOLE THING OF ALCOHOL

AND PRAYED TO END IT.

Reporter: AT THAT

MOMENT, A CLOSE FRIEND

HAPPENED TO BE OUT RUNNING

ERRANDS.

HE PUT IT ON MY FRIEND'S

HEART TO URGENTLY GET TO

CASEY'S HOUSE.

THE HOUSE WAS NOT LOCKED.

I WAS THERE, AND I WAS

PASSED OUT.

I KNOW IF I STAYED IN THAT

WAY FOR ANY AMOUNT LONGER,

MY HEART WOULD HAVE

STOPPED.

GOD USED HER AS A VESSEL TO

SAVE MY LIFE.

Reporter: AS SHE

RECOVERED PHYSICALLY AND

EMOTIONALLY, JUSTIN WAS

THERE BY HER SIDE.

CASEY SAID HIS RESPONSE

HELPED HER TO FINALLY

UNDERSTAND GOD'S LOVE.

I HAD BEEN A CHRISTIAN

ALL THAT TIME, AND I DIDN'T

FULLY GRASP GRACE.

AND FOR HIM TO LOOK AT ME

AND SAY, CASEY, I DON'T KNOW

HOW TO NOT LOVE YOU.

THIS WAS THE SPIRIT OF GOD

IN HIM OFFERING ME

FORGIVENESS AND GRACE SO

THAT I WOULD EXPERIENCE

GRACE.

AND NOW I GET TO GO AND TELL

EVERYONE THIS STORY, THAT

GOD IS SAYING THESE WORDS TO

YOU, WHICH IS, I DON'T KNOW

HOW TO NOT LOVE YOU.

Reporter: CASEY SAYS

SHE STOPPED CUTTING AND WAS

ALSO FREE FROM HER STRUGGLE

WITH BULEMIA.

SHE ANDç JUSTIN THEN BEGANç

RESTORING THEIR MARRIAGE.

WE BEGAN TO WEED OUT

CERTAIN RELATIONSHIPS, PLACE

HIGHER BOUNDARIES IN OUR

MARRIAGE, AND THEN

COMMUNICATE.

WE SHARE OUR HEARTS WITH

ONE ANOTHER LIKE WE NEVER

HAVE BEFORE.

INTIMACY IS WAY STRONGER NOW

THAN IT EVER WAS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT A

MARRIAGE, IT IS THE ONE

THING ON PLANET EARTH THAT

GOD HAS GIVEN US TO LOOK AT

AND SAY, THIS IS HOW I LOVE

MY CHURCH.

Reporter: CASEY AND

JUSTIN NOW WORK AT A RANCH

IN TEXAS THAT HOUSES WOMEN

WHO HAVE BEEN SAVED FROM SEX

TRAFFICKING.

AND CASEY IS A PUBLISHED

AUTHOR AND A FEATURED

SPEAKER AT WOMEN'S

CONFERENCES.

SHE SHARES HER STORY SO THAT

OTHERS MIGHT EXPERIENCE THE

GIFT OF GOD'S LOVE.

HE IS IN CONTROL OF EVERY

MOMENT.

HE IS THE AUTHOR OF OUR

LIVES.

WHEN YOU BEGIN TO EXPERIENCE

HIM ON THAT LEVEL,

EVERYTHING CHANGES.

IT IS SO EMPOWERING.

IT SETS US FREE TO TRULY

LIVE.

Pat: WHAT A HUSBAND.

BUT THE HUSBAND REPRESENTED

JESUS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW NOT TO LOVE

YOU.

ISN'T THAT SOMETHING?

GOD DOESN'T KNOW HOW NOT TO

LOVE US.

AS FAR AS THE EAST IS FROM

THE WEST, THAT'S HOW FAR

HE'LL TAKE OUR SINS FROM

US.

ROMANS 8: 28: "GOD WORKS

EVERYTHING FOR GOOD TO THOSE

WHO LOVES HIM."

GOD'S LOVE HAVE NEVER

STOPPED.

YOU HAVE NOT SINNED AWAY

YOUR CHANCE OF SALVATION.

GOD LOVES YOU.

PRAYEPRAY WITH ME RIGHT NOW

THESE WORDS, JESUS -- SAY

IT, JESUS.

JESUS, I TAKE YOUR LOVE AND

I THANK YOU THAT YOU LOVE

ME.

AND I RECEIVE THAT LOVE

NOW.

COME IN, TAKE OVER MY LIFE,

FROM THIS MOMENT ON I WILL

WALK IN THE GRACE OF THE

LORD.

THANK YOU, LORD.

THANK YOU.

AMEN.

IF YOU PRAYED THAT SIMPLE

PRAYER, PLEASE CALL US.

WE'RE GOING OFF THE AIR IN

JUST A SECOND, BUT THE

TELEPHONES WILL BE THERE.

1-800-759-0700.

JUST SAY, LOOK, I PRAYED,

AND TALK TO SOMEBODY ON THE

PHONES.

WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO LOVE YOU,

AND YOU NEED TO CALL.

I WANT TO THANK EACH ONE OF

YOU FOR JOINING US ON

TODAY'S BROADCAST.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH OUR POWER

MINUTE FROM PROVERBS: "HE

WHO HEEDS THE WORD WISELY

WILL FIND GOOD.

AND WHOEVER TRUSTS IN THE

LORD, HAPPY IS HE."

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

TOMORROW YOU'RE GOING TO

MEET THE ATLANTA BOY WHO WAS

KIDNAPPED FROM HIS FRONT

LAWN.

AND THERE IS A SONG THAT SET

HIM FREE.

AND WE'VE ALSO GOT A

WONDERFUL LITTLE PIECE WITH

ME AND A GREAT BIG,

BEAUTIFUL HORSE.

I THINK IF YOU LIKE ANIMALS,

YOU'LL LIKE WHAT GOD CAN DO

IN PEOPLE'S LIVES.

THAT WILL BE ON THE SHOW

TOMORROW.

YOU DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

FOR WENDY AND ALL OF US,

THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON.

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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