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700 Club Interactive : One Nation Under God - June 12, 2014

Americans may be divided along political lines, but there is one thing we all agree on – that something must be done. Find out how we can save America – together! Plus – we’ll debunk several myths about American history! Read Transcript


Gordon: ONE NATION IN

DI INDIVISIBLE.

IT HAS GOT TO BE DONE,

BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO

START IT.

Gordon: ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

ON "700 CLUB INTERACTIVE,"

WE USE TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY

FOR EACH OTHER AND EXPLORE

TOPICS THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

WELL, WELCOME TO "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

TODAY WE'RE ON A ROAD TRIP,

BROADCASTING FROM

WASHINGTON, D.C.

WE'RE AMONG THE MILLIONS OF

TOURISTS WHO VISIT OUR

NATION'S CAPITAL EVERY

YEAR.

PEOPLE COME HERE AND SEE

MUSEUMS, MONUMENTS, AND

MEMORIALS, AND THEY'RE ALSO

SEEING A CITY DIVIDED.

WE'RE AS POLAR OPPOSITE

AS YOU CAN GET.

YEAH.

WE'RE KIND OF LIKE THE

JAMES CARVEL/MARILEE MATLIN

OF THE WORLD.

IT SEEMS LIKE ALL OF THE

NETWORKS ARE IN THE BACK

POCKET OF THE MAN IN THE BIG

HOUSE RIGHT NOW, SO --

YOU'VE GOT TO WORK

TOGETHER.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S

GOOD, YOU KNOW.

BOY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE

TO START.

THAT'S THE THING, IT'S GOT

TO BE DONE, BUT I DON'T KNOW

HOW TO START IT.

OUR PHILOSOPHIES MAY BE

DIFFERENT, BUT THE IMPORTANT

THING IS THAT YOU CARE ABOUT

THIS COUNTRY.

YOU CAN HAVE CIVIL

DISCUSSION.

IF I COULD FIX THEM -- I

SOMETIMES WONDER IF THEY'RE

FIXABLE.

IT'S BAD, YOU KNOW?

I THINK WE NEED A

UNIFYING PURPOSE, AND THAT'S

JUST NOT THERE RIGHT NOW.

Gordon: WE DO HAVE

ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS,

AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

STATE OF AMERICA, IS THERE

HOPE?

I LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT

WE'VE BEEN THROUGH SOME BAD

TIMES BEFORE.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS LOOK

BACK AT THE REVOLUTIONARY

WAR, LOOK AT THE WAR OF

1812, LOOK BACK AT THE CIVIL

WAR, WHERE WE WERE FIGHTING

OURSELVES, BROTHER AGAINST

BROTHER.

HOW DO YOU CHANGE A CITY?

HOW DO YOU CHANGE A NATION?

HOW DO YOU CHANGE A

NEIGHBORHOOD?

HOW DO YOU CHANGE YOUR OWN

FAMILY?

APOSTLE PAUL GIVES US SOME

WONDERFUL GUIDANCE, IN

TIMOTHY 2: "THEREFORE I

EXORT, FIRST OF ALL, THAT

PRAYERS, INTERCESSION, AND

GIVING OF THANKS BE MADE FOR

ALL MEN, FOR KINGS, AND ALL

WHO ARE IN AUTHORITY."

I'LL COME BACK TO THE END OF

THAT VERSE IN A MOMENT.

BUT LET'S JUST FOCUS ON

THAT.

FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS THE

FIRST PRINCIPLE, THAT YOU

PRAY FOR ALL PEOPLE

EVERYWHERE.

SO OFTEN WE SAY, WELL, HOW

DO YOU START?

WELL, YOU START WITH

PRAYER.

AND THEN YOU SAY, HOW DO I

PRAYER FOR THEM?

I DON'T AGREE WITH THEM.

THAT BECOMES A FUNDAMENTAL.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO CHANGE

THEM, WHAT'S GOING TO CHANGE

THEM?

IS YOUR ARGUMENT GOING TO

CHANGE THEM?

IS YOUR DEMONSTRATION GOING

TO CHANGE THEM?

AND THE ANSWER IS NO.

THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES

THE HUMAN HEART IS THE

SPIRIT OF GOD.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR

CHANGE, AND YOU'RE LOOKING

FOR CHANGE IN THE NATION, IN

YOUR CITY, IN POLITICS, IF

YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A

CHANGE.

YOU START WITH PRAYER.

AND YOU DON'T PRAY CURSES ON

PEOPLE.

I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT.

THE SCRIPTURE HERE IS VERY

SPECIFIC.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE

THANKSGIVING, IT'S SUPPOSED

TO BE INTERCESSION.

WHEN MOSES INTERCEDED FOR

THE NATION OF ISRAEL, HE

SAID PUT YOUR JUDGMENT ON

ME; DON'T JUDGE THEM.

SO IF THAT'S OUR ATTITUDE IN

PRAYER FOR OUR LEADERS, FOR

ALL IN AUTHORITY, FOR ALL

PEOPLE EVERYWHERE, IT

CHANGES US AS WELL.

WE'RE NOT JUST ASKING GOD TO

CHANGE THEM.

WE'RE ASKING GOD TO CHANGE

US THROUGH THE PROCESS OF

PRAYER.

AND WHEN WE DO THAT AND HAVE

THAT HUMILITY TO SAY, GOD, I

DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER BUT

YOU DO, AND HELP ME FIND IT,

THEN REAL CHANGE STARTS.

NOW, WHAT'S THE PURPOSE OF

THIS PRAYER?

THAT'S THE SECOND PART OF

THIS.

THAT WE MAY LEAD A QUIET AND

PEACEABLE LIFE, IN ALL

GODLINESS AND REVERENCE.

SOMETIMES YOU GET SO

AGITATED WITH WHAT YOU SEE

ON THE NEWS.

PAUL SAID, THIS IS WHY WE

PRAY FOR ALL PEOPLE, WHY WE

PRAY FOR OUR LEADERS, THAT

WE WOULD HAVE A GODLY AND

PEACEABLE LIFE.

AND IN THAT PEACE -- ONE OF

THE PARTICIPANTS IN THAT

SAYS WHAT'S OUR UNIFYING

PURPOSE?

WELL, HERE IS THE UNIFYING

PURPOSE FOR ALL CHRISTIANS,

AND IT'S THE OF COURSE NEXT

VERSE, VERSE 3: "FOR THIS IS

GOOD AND ACCEPTABLE IN THE

SIGHT OF GOD, OUR SAVIOR,

WHO DESIRES ALL MEN TO BE

SAVED AND TO COME TO THE

KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH."

THE TRUTH SHEA HERE IS A

PERSON.

JESUS SAID, I AM THE WAY,

THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT.

NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER

BUT BY ME.

AND WHEN WE PRAY AND PRAY

SPECIFICALLY FOR SALVATION,

THAT JESUS WOULD REVEAL

HIMSELF, THAT THEY WOULD

COME TO THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE

TRUTH AND NOT SOME

INTELLECTUAL KNOWLEDGE, BUT

EXPERIENCEAL KNOWLEDGE OF

THE TRUTH -- WHEN WE PRAY

THAT AND WE PRAY THAT

EARNESTLY, GOD WILL ANSWER

AND GOD WILL BE ABLE TO HEAL

OUR LAND.

HE HAS SEEN US THROUGH LOTS

OF WARS.

HE HAS SEEN US THROUGH LOTS

OF POLITICAL UPHEAVAL, AND

HE'LL SEE US THROUGH AGAIN.

THIS WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST

TIME THAT PRAYER HAS SAVED

AMERICA, OR SAVED

WASHINGTON, D.C.

WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU A

PART OF AMERICAN HISTORY

THAT YOU MAY NOT HAVE

LEARNED IN SCHOOL.

UP NEXT.

Gordon: 200 YEARS AGO,

BRITISH TROOPS MARCHED ON

WASHINGTON, D.C. AND SET

FIRE TO BOTH THE CAPITAL

CAPITOL BUILDING AND THE

WHITE HOUSE.

AS A HISTORIAN TOLD SCOTT

ROSS, WHAT HAPPENED NEXT

SAVED THE CITY AND OUR

NATION.

Reporter: DURING THE

WAR OF 1812, BRITISH ADMIRAL

GEORGE COCBURN MARCHED HIS

TROOPS INTO WASHINGTON,

D.C., AS JAMES MADISON AND

CITIZENS LEFT THE CITY.

BUT LITTLE DID THE BRITISH

KNOW THE PRAYERS OF AMERICA

WOULD PROOF STRONGER THAN

ANY ARMY.

COCHRANE GOES INTO OUR

WHITE HOUSE AND SITS DOWN

AND HAS DINNER AND THEN HE

TORCHES THE PLACE.

AND THEN HE GOES TO OUR U.S.

CAPITAL, AND HAS ALL OF HIS

SOLDIERS SIT IN OUR

CONGRESSMEN'S SEATS, AND HE

SAYS, WHO VOTES TO BURN THE

CAPITOL, AND THEY ALL SAY

YEA.

AND THEN THE WINDS BEGIN TO

PICK UP, AND TORNADOES

TOUCHDOWN, AND PICKED UP

BRITISH CANNONS AND KNOCKED

THEM AWAY.

AND IT SLAPS HORSE AND RIDER

TO THE GROUND.

AND THE ADMIRAL, GEORGE

COCKBURN, SAYS, IS THIS THE

KIND OF WEATHER YOU HAVE IN

THIS COUNTRY?

AND SHE SAID, NO, THIS IS

THE SPECIAL INTERCESSION OF

PROVIDENCE TO DRIVE ENEMIES

FROM OUR CITY.

THEY'RE DRIVEN OUT AND THE

RAINS COME AND EXTINGUISH

THE FIRES.

MORE BRITISH SOLDIERS WERE

KILLED BY THIS STROKE OF

NATURE THAN BY ALL OF THE

ARMS THE AMERICANS COULD

MUSTER IN THE FEEBLE DEFENSE

OF THEIR CAPITAL.

Reporter: AND YOU

ATTRIBUTE THAT TO THE HAND

OF GOD?

THE FOUNDING FATHERS

DID.

AND IT WAS SHORTLY

THEREAFTER THAT JAMES MADS

MADISON HAD A DAY OF FASTING

AND PRAYER.

Reporter: TWO WEEKS

AFTER THE WAR OF 1812 HAD

OFFICIALLY ENDED, THE NEWS

HAD NOT YET REACHED NEW

ORLEANS.

12,000 BRITISH SOLDIERS HAD

THEIR SITES ON ANDREW

JACKSON AND HIS TROOPS.

SO THE BRITISH ATTACK,

AND ABOUT 2,000 BRITISH DIED

IN THE ATTACK.

ONLY EIGHT AMERICANS --

Reporter: WHAT WAS

THAT?

HOW MANY?

2,000 BRITISH DIED, THE

BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS, AND

ONLY EIGHT AMERICANS.

AND ANDREW JACKSON WAS THE

GENERAL, AND H EXCLAIMS HOW

EVERY BALL AND ROCKET HAD A

MISSION, AND HE GOES, THIS

IS PROVIDENCE, GOD

INTERVENED.

AND HE WRITES LETTERS TO THE

SECRETARY OF WAR, AND HE

TALKS ABOUT HOW THE HAND OF

PROVIDENCE HAS BEEN SO

OBVIOUS IN THIS BATTLE, TO

GIVE US THIS VICTORY.

Gordon: HOW THE HAND OF

PROVIDENCE, BOTH IN THE

FOUNDING OF AMERICA AND IN

THE PRESERVATION OF OUR

LIBERTY, NOT JUST IN THE

REVOLUTIONARY WAR, BUT, AS

YOU JUST SAW, IN THE WAR OF

1812.

WE WANT TO TELL YOU THE REAL

STORY BEHIND THE FOUNDING OF

OUR NATION.

AND, PLUS, HEAR WHY WHAT YOU

HAVE BEEN TAUGHT ABOUT

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND

STATE, WELL, IT MAY BE

WRONG.

THAT'S UP NEXT.

Gordon: WE'VE BEEN

SHOWING YOU HOW GOD HAS

INTERVENED IN THE HISTORY OF

AMERICA, AND HOW THE

FOUNDING FATHERS VIEWED

PROVIDENCE AS ONE OF THE

GUIDING PRINCIPLES BEHIND

THE FORMATION OF THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA.

WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TALK

ABOUT THE PRINCIPLE THAT YOU

MAY HAVE ALSO HEARD ABOUT,

ABOUT THE SEPARATION OF

CHURCH AND STATE.

AND HOW WHAT OUR MODERN

CONCEPT IS, AND HOW

DIFFERENT THAT IS FROM WHAT

THE FOUNDING FATHERS HAD.

JOINING US WITH MORE IS

JORDAN SEKULOW FROM THE

AMERICAN CENTER FOR LAW AND

JUSTICE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

Gordon: A LOT OF PEOPLE

QUOTE THE SEPARATION OF

CHURCH AND STATE AS SOME

KIND OF TIME-HONORED

PRINCIPLE THAT WE NEED TO

KEEP RELIGION OUT OF ANY

GOVERNMENT EXPRESSION.

RIGHT.

THAT WE SOMEHOW ERADICATE

OUR JUDEO CHRISTIAN

HERITAGE.

Gordon: RIGHT, THAT

SOMEHOW IT IS IMPROPER, THAT

IT IS AGAINST THE

CONSTITUTION TO HAVE

RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION IN

GOVERNMENT.

UNFORTUNATELY, MOST

PEOPLE DON'T READ THE

CONSTITUTION, AND YOU WOULD

FIND THERE IS NO SEPARATION

OF CHURCH AND STATE.

AND TO DETERMINE WHEN THINGS

GO TOO FAR.

THE IDEA THAT OUR FOUNDING

FATHERS DIDN'T WANT AN

ESTABLISHED FOUNDING CHURCH,

THEY WANTED SOMETHING

DIFFERENT FROM THE BRITISH

CHURCH.

THEY WERE SITTING BACK AND

SAYING, OKAY, WE UNDERSTAND

RELIGION'S IMPORTANT GOAL,

AND WE DON'T WANT THE

GOVERNMENT TO BE TIED TO

THAT.

SO IN A SENSE, WE ARE

EMPOWERING RELIGION EVEN

MORE.

NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO

HAVE PRAYER.

THEY WERE PRINTING BIBLES.

THIS WAS IMPORTANT NOT JUST

FOR LEGISLATURES, BUT FOR

OUR MILITARY.

THEY HAD NATIONAL DAYS OF

PRAYER.

AND IT WAS IN THE '50s,

'60s, AND '70s BEFORE

THINGS STARTED TO CHANGE.

THEY PRAYED.

ABSOLUTELY.

Gordon: WHAT IS IT THEY

WERE AFRAID OF?

WHY WAS AN ESTABLISHMENT OF

A RELIGIOUS CHURCH, AND

OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE POINTING

AT THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND.

WHY IS THAT BAD IN THEIR

VIEW?

I THINK FOR THEM, THAT

WAS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THE

CHRISTIAN MESSAGE WAS

ABOUT.

I THINK IT GOES BACK TO

CHRISTIANITY AND THE FAITH

THEY KNEW AND GROWED UP WITH

AND SHARED.

AND THEY CAME FROM DIFFERENT

FAITH BACKGROUNDS.

BUT THIS IDEA THAT THE

GOVERNMENT'S POWER -- IT'S

POWERFUL ENOUGH.

THEIR WHOLE POINT OF THE

CONSTITUTION WAS REINING IN

THE GOVERNMENT.

TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE ARE

IN POWER.

IF YOU GIVE THE GOVERNMENT

OF THE CHURCH AS WELL,

THEY'RE CONTROLLING THE

MESSAGE IN THE PULPIT, OR

THEY'RE CONTROLLING WHETHER

THE CHURCH IS SUPPORTING THE

GOVERNMENT, AND IT PUTS

EVERYBODY IN THE POSITION OF

IS IT REALLY FAITH OR IS IT

ANOTHER GOVERNMENT DUTY.

AND ALSO THE FACT THAT IT

TAKES AWAY FROM THE REAL

CHOICE ABOUT DO YOU WANT TO

BE RELIGIOUS, AND WHAT KIND

OF CHURCH DO YOU WANT TO GO

TO, AND WHAT KIND OF MESSAGE

DO YOU WANT TO HEAR?

Gordon: IN THE CURRENT

COURT RULINGS, HAVE WE GONE

SO FAR ON THE ESTABLISHMENT

CLAUSE THAT WE'RE NOW INTO

PREHIBTINPROHIBITING THE

FREE EXERCISE?

AND HAVE WE REPLACED AN

ESTABLISHED CHURCH WITH AN

ESTABLISHED JUDICIAL FIAT

THAT SAYS WHEN AND WHERE YOU

CAN HAVE RELIGIOUS

EXPRESSION?

THAT'S A GREAT WAY TO SAY

IT.

THE IDEA WE NOW HAVE TO GO

TO COURT TO DETERMINE HOW

RELIGIOUS WE CAN BE.

SO THE MOST RECENT CASE, THE

PRAYER CASE AT THE COURT

ABOUT CITY COUNCIL PRAYERS,

5-4, SO VERY CLOSE.

YOU'RE ONE JUSTICE AWAY FROM

THIS BEING THE OTHER WAY AND

SAYING YOU CAN'T HAVE

PRAYER.

AND HERE THEY SAID -- IT WAS

A 1980s CASE THAT SAID IT

IS OKAY FOR CHAPLAINS TO

EMPLOYED BY STATE

LEGISLATURES, AND IT IS OKAY

IF THEY COME FROM ONE

SPECIFIC FAITH GROUP, BUT

THERE WERE LIMITATIONS

THERE.

AND THEY SAID THEY WEREN'T

PROSSELTIZE.

DOES THAT MEAN YOU CAN PRAY

IN JESUS' NAME?

THE COURT SAID IN THIS

CASE -- IT'S A GREAT

REAFFIRMATION THAT YOU CAN.

THAT WE CAN STILL PRAY IN

JESUS' NAME.

THAT YOU CAN HAVE PEOPLE WHO

GET UP AND DO THE PRAYER AT

A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, JUST

LIKE THEY DO AT CONGRESS OR

OTHER GOVERNMENTAL BODIES.

BUT THERE IS STILL A FINE

LINE.

JUSTICE KENNEDY REPEATED IT,

THAT YOU CAN'T BE

INSENSITIVE AND YOU CAN'T

PROSELTIZE.

Gordon: MY MIND BOGGLES

WITH THAT KIND OF

DISTINCTION BECAUSE HOW DO

YOU KNOW IF IT IS

INSENSITIVE?

JUST BY SAYING, "I'M PRAYING

IN JESUS' NAME," HOW IN THE

WORLD COULD THAT BE IN

INSENSITIVE?

IT'S YOUR BELIEF, IT'S YOUR

FREEDOM OF CONSCIENCE.

AND HOW DO YOU KNOW IF IT IS

PROSELYTIZING?

IT IS AN INTERESTING

BALANCE.

THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE

DON'T JUST WANT

NON-SECTARIAN PRAYER.

THE IDEA THIS IS GOVERNMENT

MANDATED, AND THIS IS HOW

YOU PRAY, IS WRONG.

THAT WOULD BE THE GOVERNMENT

ESTABLISH A RELIGION, WHICH

THE CONSTITUTION PROHIBITS,

THE BILL OF RIGHTS

PROHIBITS.

BUT SO YOU CAN PRAY IN

JESUS' NAME, BUT IT IS MORE

ABOUT MAKING IT

UNCOMFORTABLE FOR OTHERS TO

BE THERE WHO MAY NOT SHARE

THE FAITH.

THAT MAY SEEM VERY PRACTICAL

ON PAPER, BUT 10 YEARS FROM

NOW, THAT CAN BE INTERPRETED

IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY.

Gordon: YOU CAN EVEN

TURN KENNEDY'S OPINION

AROUND ITSELF, IF YOU PRAY

TO A NAMELESS GOD, AS A

CHRISTIAN, I WOULD FIND THAT

OFFENSIVE.

THAT'S RIGHT.

Gordon: AND ISN'T THAT

PROSELYTIZING A PARTICULAR

VIEW OF GOVERNMENTAL

RELIGION, AND PERMITTED

GOVERNMENTAL RELIGION, THAT

UNLESS YOU CONVERT TO MY

VIEW, THE GOD MUST BE, LIKE

THE GREEKS, THE UNKNOWN

GOD.

RIGHT.

Gordon: AND UNLESS YOU

ADOPT THAT VIEW, YOU HAVE NO

PLACE IN THE PUBLIC SQUARE.

SO THAT, IN AND OF ITSELF,

IS PROSELYTIZING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

IN GREECE, NEW YORK, MOST OF

THE PRAYERS WERE CHRISTIAN

BECAUSE IT IS A CHRISTIAN

COMMUNITY.

BUT THE IDEA IS OTHER PEOPLE

COULD VOLUNTEER AND THEY

DID.

THERE WERE OTHER BIZARRE

RELIGIOUS FAITHS, AND THEY

COULD SIGN UP AND DO WHAT

THEY WANT TO DO.

WE CAN DEAL WITH IT ALL.

IT IS NOT GOING TO UPSET

US.

IT IS WHAT WE'RE NOW FACING,

AND THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE

IT IS THIS NEW ANGRY,

RADICAL ATHEIST.

AND THAT'S WHO BROUGHT THIS

SUIT IN GREECE VERSUS

GALLOWAY.

BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ONLY IN

THIS IDEA SHOULD THE

GOVERNMENT STAY OUT OF

RELIGION, THEY ALSO HAVE A

REAL DISTASTE FOR RELIGIOUS

PEOPLE.

THEY THINK THERE IS

SOMETHING WRONG WITH US FOR

HAVING FAITH.

SO IT IS A TWO-FOLD ATTACK,

AND THEY'RE WILLING TO FIGHT

THESE BATTLES.

AGAIN, I REMIND PEOPLE WE'RE

WINNING THEM, STILL, BUT

WE'RE HAVING TO GO TO COURT

TO ASK THE JUDGES OR

JUSTICES, CAN WE DO THIS?

IS THIS OKAY IN AMERICA?

A PRAYER BEFORE A CITY

COUNCIL MEETING.

AND SECOND, WE'RE ONE VOTE

AWAY FROM THIS GOING

COMPLETELY THE OTHER WAY.

AND THEY'RE SAYING YOU CAN'T

HAVE PRAYERS IN THIS

SETTING.

IN FACT, GORDON, WHAT IS

EVEN MORE TROUBLING TO ME IS

THAT THE ENTIRE CASE IS

REALLY BUILT ON HISTORY.

THAT IF WE -- THAT SOMEHOW

THE HISTORY PRECEDES THE

CONSTITUTION -- I THINK THAT

IS RIGHT, YOU LOOK BACK AND

SAY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS

WERE DOING THIS, SO HOW CAN

WE POSSIBLY SAY THERE IS AN

ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE.

BUT I THINK IT SHOULD GO

FURTHER AS WELL.

BECAUSE YOU COULD EASILY SEE

A COURT IN THE FUTURE SAY,

WELL, SOMETIMES HISTORY

WASN'T RIGHT.

WE WANT THE FOUNDING TO BE

MORE SOLID THAN THAT.

SO PEOPLE HAVE TO KEEP

FIGHTING.

THERE HAS TO BE MORE TOWNS

LIKE GREECE, NEW YORK, WHO

WHEN THEY GET THESE LETTERS

FROM THE ATHEIST GROUPS, IF

YOU'RE GOING TO SUE, WE'RE

GOING TO FIGHT BACK.

Gordon: FRANKLY, THE

LAWYER IN ME SAYS THIS IS A

COMPLETE WASTE OF JUDICIAL

RESOURCE.

THAT THE MERE FACT THAT THIS

ISN'T A MOTION TO DISMISS

GRANTED AT THE TIME IT IS

FILED, THAT IT IS JUST SO

ABSURD TO CLAIM THAT SOMEHOW

A PRAYER VIOLATES THE

ESTABLISHMENT CLAUSE.

YEP.

Gordon: IT IS SO

AGAINST THE HISTORY OF WHAT

WAS GOING ON AT THE TIME.

NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT

ESTABLISHING A PARTICULAR

RELIGION IN AMERICA.

WE WANT FOR THOSE WHO ARE

CHRISTIANS, OR OF ANY FAITH,

TO BE ABLE TO PRAY IN THE

PUBLIC SQUARE AS PART OF

THEIR FUNCTIONS IN OFFICE.

AND THEY HAVE THE FREE

EXPRESSION OF THAT.

WHY ISN'T THIS JUST

COMPLETELY DISMISSED AND

LITERALLY LAUGHED OUT OF

COURT?

SOME OF THE CASES ARE,

AND THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

HOW THESE ATHEISTS HAVE HAD

SOME SUCCESS, AND IT IS

SPECIFICALLY THEM.

THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE

GROUPS WE FOUGHT WITH IN THE

PAST.

IT IS JUST A THREAT.

THEY THREATEN A TOWN.

THE TOWN GOES, I DON'T WANT

TO GO THROUGH A LAWSUIT,

EVEN IF WE WIN, I WOULD

RATHER JUST REMOVE OUR

POLICY.

WE'LL TAKE DOWN OUR 10

COMMANDMENTS, WE'LL TAKE

DOWN A STATUE.

THAT KIND OF THINGMENT SO

THING.

AND SO THEY JUST BACK DOWN.

SOMETIMES THAT IS

UNDERSTANDABLE.

THEY TARGET SMALLER TOWNS

AND COMMUNITIES.

WHEN THEY TARGET BIG CITIES,

THEY GO DOWN IN FLAMES

BECAUSE THE BIG CITIES FIGHT

BACK.

THEY'RE VERY CAREFUL.

THEY'RE GOING AFTER A CROSS

ABOUT 20 MILES FROM HERE.

IT WAS A WORL WORLD WAR I

MEMORIAL, AND IT HAS BEEN

THERE SINCE THE 1930s.

THE IDEA IS NOTHING IS

OFF-LIMITS.

AND THEY'RE GOING AFTER

TOWNS AND COMMUNITIES THAT

ARE HURTING.

WE HAVE TO BE READY TO FIGHT

BACK.

THERE ARE JUDGES WHO DO

DISMISS THESE, BUT THEY FIND

ALLIES AS WELL.

THEY HAVE GOTTEN THINGS LIKE

THE NATIONAL DAY OF PRAYER

TO THE DISTRICT COURT

LEVEL.

AND YOU, AGAIN, KEEP

FIGHTING.

Gordon: SO THEY ARE

FORUM SHOPPING?

LET'S GO FIND A FEDERAL

JUDGE AND FIND A CASE IN HIS

JURISDICTION --

YEAH, AND A TOWN ATTORNEY

AND A COMMUNITY THAT IS

GOING TO HAVE A TOUGHER TIME

FIGHTING BACK.

BUT FOR ALL OF THOSE

COMMUNITIES OUT THERE, AND

SCHOOLS, AND PEOPLE

WATCHING, THERE ARE WAYS TO

FIGHT BACK.

THAT'S WHY GROUPS LIKE US

EXIST.

BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO

HIRE A LAW FIRM.

WE FIGHT FOR YOU.

AND SOMETIMES WE CAN RESOLVE

IT, IN MOST CASES, WITHOUT

GOING TO COURT.

I SEE SOMETIMES WHAT THESE

ATHEISTS GROUPS SEND TO

PEOPLE, IT IS LIKE HALF OF

THE SUPREME COURT DECISION.

IT LOOKS LONG, AND IT LIKES

FANCY AND HAS ALL OF THIS

EXPLANATION, BUT THE TRUTH

IS MOST OF IT IS OPINION,

AND NOT LAW.

Gordon: IF PEOPLE WANT

TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU,

HOW DO THEY DO IT?

ACLJ.ORG.

Gordon: CHRISTIANITY

HAS PLAYED A KEY ROLE IN

AMERICA HISTORY, AND AS PAUL

STRAND REPORTS A MASSIVE

REVIVAL IN THE 1900s LEFT

A MARK ON THE BIRTH OF THE

NATION.

Reporter: THEY WERE

PROFOUNDLY INFLUENCED BY THE

NEW WORLD'S FIRST REVIVAL,

"THE GREAT AWAKENING."

IT HIT FROM THE 1 1720s

TO THE '60s.

HE WATCHED RADICAL REVIVAL

TAKE OVER HIS HOME DOWN IN

MASSACHUSETTS.

THE WAY SH HE DESCRIBES

IS LIKE ONE DAY GOD INVADED

THE TOWN OF NORTHAMPTON.

THE TOWN SEEMED TO BE FULL

OF THE PRESENCE OF GOD.

Reporter: THE BARS

EMPTIED OUT AND CHRISTIAN

HOMES WERE FILLED WITH

PEOPLE ANXIOUS TO BE SAVED

AND NO GOD.

HE SAID, IF YOU COME

ACROSS SOMEONE WHO SEEMS

SPIRITUALLY INDIFFERENT, IT

WOULD BE SPOKEN OF AS A

STRANGE THING.

Reporter: THEN GEORGE

WIDFIELD BROUGHT HIS FIERY

MESSAGES.

HE PREACHED TO MULTITUDE

OUTDOORS.

CROWDS FROM 10,000 TO AS

MUCH AS 30,000 SHOWED UP.

ENTIRE TOWNS REPENTING

AND TURNING TO GOD.

Reporter: AND FRANKLIN

WROTE OF THE REVIVAL'S

IMPACT.

FROM BEING INDIFFERENT

ABOUT RELIGION, IT SEEMED AS

IF ALL THE WORLD WERE

GROWING RELIGIOUS SO THAT

ONE COULD NOT WALK THROUGH

THE TOWN IN AN EVENING

WITHOUT HEARING PSALMS SUNG

IN DIFFERENT FAMILIES OF

EVERY STREET.

Reporter: WIDFIELD

LIFTED UP A SPECIAL PRAYER

FOR THE COLONIES, THAT WOULD

MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN

THEIR REVOLUTION AND FUTURE

TOGETHER.

THEY WOULD NOT LIVE AS 13

SCATTERED COLONIES, BUT AS

ONE NATION UNDER GOD.

Reporter: AND THE GREAT

AWAKENING BECAME THE FIRST

NATIONAL EVENT THE SCATTERED

COLONIES EXPERIENCED AS

ONE.

IT UNIFIED THEM UNLIKE ANY

TIME BEFORE, JUST IN TIME TO

FACE THE MIGHTY BRITISH

EMPIRE IN WAR.

AND IT SHAPED THE FOUNDING

FATHERS CORE VISION FOR

AMERICA, THAT GOD SETS MEN

FREE, IT IS THEIR NATURAL

RIGHT TO HAVE LIBERTY, AND

EACH IS MADE TO RULE WITH

CHRIST.

IT IS IN THE DECLARATION OF

INDEPENDENCE, U.S.

CONSTITUTION, AND BILL OF

RIGHTS.

HE FOUND EXAMPLE AFTER

EXAMPLE OF HOW DEEPLY THIS

AWAKENING INFLUENCED THEM

AND THEIR CHRISTIAN VALUES.

TAKE THOMAS JEFFERSON, FOR

INSTANCE.

HE SIGNED ALL

PRESIDENTIAL DOCUMENTS "IN

THE YEAR OF OUR LORD

CHRIST."

Reporter: HE SENT

CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES TO

ONE TRIBE, AND GAVE THEM

FUNDS TO BUILD A CHURCH.

AND HE HELD SUNDAY SERVICES,

HELD IN THE HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES.

A QUAKER NAMED ISAAC POTS

POTTS SAW GEORGE

WASHINGTON'S FAITH DURING

THAT ONE COLD WINTER.

HE SAID I TIED MY HORSE

TO A SAPLING, AND I WENT

INTO THE WOODS.

AND TO MY ASTONISHMENT, I

SAW GEORGE WASHINGTON ON HIS

KNEES.

Reporter: THE ANTI-WAR

QUAKER POTTS LATER WROTE --

SUCH A PRAYER NEVER HEARD

FROM THE LIPS OF MAN.

WE NEVER THOUGHT A MAN COULD

BE A SOLDIER AND A

CHRISTIAN, BUT IF THERE IS

ONE IN THE WORLD, IT IS

WASHINGTON.

Reporter: AT THE

CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION IN

1767, THEY FOUGHT SO MUCH

THE CONVENTION ALMOST BROKE

UP.

BUT THEN BEN FRANKLIN STOOD

AND BEGAN TO SPEAK.

HE SAID, THE LONGER I

LIVE, THE MORE I SEE THAT

GOD GOVERNS IN THE AFFAIRS

OF MAN.

IF A SPARROW CANNOT FALL TO

THE GROUND WITHOUT HIS

NOTICE, IS IT PROBABLE THAT

AN EMPIRE CAN RISE WITHOUT

HIS AID?

Reporter: AFTER THAT,

AN ATMOSPHERE OF PEACE AND

RECONCILIATION CAME UPON THE

FOUNDERS.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO

PROCEED AND TO FINISH THEIR

JOB OF HAMMERING OUT THE

AMERICAN CONSTITUTION AND

BILL OF RIGHTS, AND IN A

CONTEXT OF PRAYER.

Reporter: 60 YEARS

AFTER IT BEGAN, THE GREAT

AWAKENING STILL INFLUENCED

THE FOUNDS FATHERS AND

CONTINUES TO BENEFIT OUR

COUNTRY TODAY.

PAUL STRAND, CBN NEWS.

Gordon: I LOVE

FRANKLIN'S QUESTION: CAN A

NATION RISE WITHOUT THE

BLESSING OF GOD, WITHOUT

PRAYER?

NOW CAN A NATION SURVIVE

WITHOUT THAT SAME BLESSING?

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM PSALM 33:

"BLESSED IS THE NATION WHO'S

GOD IS THE LORD."

GOD BLESS YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

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