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The 700 Club - August 5, 2014

Author and pastor Doug Fields shares strategies on how to be your wife's hero. Plus, childhood abuse haunted Kathy for years until a visit to church set her free. Read Transcript


I WAS SCARED ALL OF THE

TIME.

Wendy: A YOUNG AMISH

GIRL WAS STOPPED --

I WAS SCARED.

I WAS BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED

AS A CHILD.

I REALLY COMPLETELY ACCEPTED

IT.

Wendy: AND THEN, FOR

MEN ONLY.

MARITAL ADVICE THAT DOESN'T

MINCE WORDS.

SEE WHY WOMEN WON'T BE ABLE

TO RESIST IT.

Pat: WELL, HAVE WE GOT

A STORY FOR YOU TODAY, YOU

DON'T WANT TO MISS IT.

A GUY WHO HAS DONE EXTENSIVE

INTERVIEWS WITH MUSLIMS WHO

HAVE HAD VISIONS OF JESUS

CHRIST, AND YOU'RE GOING TO

BE HEARING ABOUT IT.

IT IS EARTH-SHATTERING.

AND WE ASK YOU, HAVE YOU

BEEN GETTING THE REAL STORY

ON THE WAR BETWEEN ISRAEL

AND HAMAS, OR HAVE YOU ONLY

BEEN SEEING WHAT HAMAS WANTS

YOU TO SEE.

WE HAVE AN INSIDE STORY ON

HOW HAMAS MANIPULATES THE

NEWS MEDIA.

Terry: ISRAEL IS

PULLING TROOPS OUT OF HAMAS

AS A CEASE-FIRE BEGINS, BUT

MANY SAY HAMAS IS WINNING

THE MEDIA WAR.

CHRIS MITCHELL HAS MORE.

Reporter: FOR MORE THAN

A MISS, ISRAEL HAS MADE

HEADLINES AND LED NEWSCASTS

AROUND THE WORLD.

ON ONE SIDE IT IS ISRAEL'S

MILITARY ACTIONS, LIKE AIR

STRIKES, ARTILLERY, AND

GROUND TROOPS.

ON THE OTHER SIDE, VIDEOS OF

PALESTINIANS SUFFERING,

WOUNDED, OR KILLED IN THOSE

MILITARY ACTIONS.

BUT WHAT IS MISSING?

George: IN GAZA, WE

HAVE NOT SEEN HAMAS

FIGHTERS.

THEY'RE NOT ROAMING THE

STREETS OF GAZA CITY.

WHERE ARE THEY?

THE IMPRESSION CREATED

YOU HAVE AN ISRAELI ARMY

FIGHTING AND YOU HAVE

PALESTINIANS ON THE OTHER

SIDE.

AND THAT IS ALREADY PLAYING

INTO HAMAS' MEDIA STRATEGY.

Reporter: HAMAS MEDIA

WATCHDOGS ALSO CRUSH WHAT

THEY CONSIDER NEGATIVE

REPORTS.

HAMAS EXPELLED THIS REPORTER

FROM THE GAZA STRIP FOR HIS

REPORTS ON TWITTER.

GEORGE THOMAS SPOKE WITH HIM

INSIDE GAZA.

George: HE CAME TO US,

TELLING US HE WAS HAULED IN

BY HAMAS MILITANTS AND

INTERROGATED AND THREATENED,

AND THEY GAVE HIM 24 HOURS

TO GET OUT OF THE STRIP.

Reporter: ITALIAN

JOURNALIST GABRIELLE POSTED

THIS ON TWITTER, ONLY AFTER

LEAVING HAMAS-CONTROLLED

GAZA.

OUT OF GAZA, A MISFIRED

ROCKET KILLED CHILDREN

YESTERDAY IN KHATI.

AND MILITANTS RUSHED AND

CLEARED DEBRIS.

HIS TWEET CORROBORATED THE

ACCOUNT THAT HAMAS ROCKETS,

NOT THE I.D.F., HIT THE

HOSPITAL ON JULY 28th.

THIS FILM-MAKER POSTED THIS

EXCHANGE ON Facebook: "HOW

COME WE NEVER SEE ON

TELEVISION CHANNEL CHANNELS

REPORTING FROM GAZA ANY HAMS

PEOPLE."

HE ANSWERED SIMPLY: WE DID

SEE HAMAS PEOPLE THERE

LAUNCHING ROCKETS, AND THEY

WERE CLOSE TO OUR HOTEL.

BUT IF EVER WE DARED POINT

OUR CAMERA ON THEM, THEY

WOULD SHOOT AT US AND KILL

US.

HE SAYS KEEPING THE WESTERN

WORLD IN THE DARK WORKS WITH

DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES.

THEY'RE USING THEIR

PEOPLE AT HUMAN SHIELDS.

AND THAT CREATES VERY

PAINFUL PICTURES ON

TELEVISION SCREENS THAT

IMMEDIATELY INSIGHTS THE

STREETS, AND IMMEDIATELY

TRANSLATES INTO DIPLOMATIC

PRESSURE IN THE SECURITY

COUNCIL AND THE HUMAN RIGHTS

GROUPS.

George: THERE WAS

EVIDENCE THAT HAMAS WAS

USING HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS,

CIVILIAN NEIGHBORHOODS,

MOSQUES, TO LAUNCH THEIR

ROCKETS, THERE WAS EVIDENCE

OF THAT, BUT THEY DID NOT

WANT THE REST OF THE WORLD

TO KNOW THAT.

Reporter: CHRIS

MITCHELL, CBN NEWS.

Pat: OUR REPORTERS TELL

IT LIKE IT IS.

IN OTHER NEWS, DID AN

EXPERIMENTAL DRUG HELP SAVE

THE LIVES OF THE TWO

AMERICANS INFECTED WITH

EBOLA?

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY.

John: PAT, THE SECOND

AMERICAN INFECTED WITH EBOLA

ARRIVES HOME TODAY.

BOTH DR. BRANTLY AND NANCY

WRITEBOL ARE REPORTEDLY

IMPROVING AFTER RECEIVING

THAT EXPERIMENTAL DRUG.

KATE DURK DURCAITLIN BURKE

HAS THE STORY.

Reporter: IT IS KNOWN

AT ZMAPP, AND IT SEEMS TO BE

WORKING.

BOTH RECEIVED THE DRUG

BEFORE LEAVING LIBERIA, AND

THE EFFECTS ARE NOTICEABLE.

SHE WAS EATING A LITTLE

BIT, AND ABLE TO TAKE IN

FLUID.

WE'RE CAUTIOUSLY OPTMISTIC.

Reporter: BRANTLY

BRANTLY IS ALSO GETTING

STRONGER.

HE WAS GIVEN ZMAPP AND BLOOD

FROM A PERSON WITH EBOLA.

ZMAPP IS PART OF AN ONGOING

RESEARCH PLAN BACKED BY THE

GOVERNMENT.

IT BOOSTS THE BODY'S IMMUNE

SYSTEM.

STILL, THERE IS NO KNOWN

CURE FOR THE VIRUS, AND

DOCTORS REMAIN HESITANT TO

CALL THE DRUG, OR ANY OTHER

TREATMENT, A SUCCESS SO

EARLY ON.

MEANWHILE, AN EBOLA OUTBREAK

CONTINUES TO RAVAGE THREE

AFRICAN COUNTRIES.

TODAY THE DEATH TOLL IS

HOVERING CLOSE TO 900.

DESPITE THE RISK, MISSIONARY

DOCTORS, LIKE DR. BRANTLY,

CONTINUE TO BE ON THE FRONT

LINES.

IF YOU LOOK BACK IN

HISTORY, TO 260 A.D., WHEN

THERE WAS AN EPIDEMIC IN

HISTORY, FIVE MILLION PEOPLE

DIED OF SMALLPOX.

AND THEY WROTE ABOUT PEOPLE

OUT IN THE STREETS,

SACRIFICING THEIR LIFE TO

TAKE CARE OF OTHERS.

Reporter: WITH C.D.C.

STAFF AT 20 U.S. AIRPORTS

AND BORDER CROSSINGS,

THEY'RE EVALUATING

PASSENGERS WITH POSSIBLE

SYMPTOMS.

NO PATIENTS HERE HAVE BEEN

REPORTED.

ONE PATIENT WAS TREATED IN A

NEW YORK HOSPITAL WITH

EBOLA-LIKE SYMPTOMS, BUT

INITIAL TESTS SHOW IT IS

UNLIKELY HE HAS THE VIRUS.

CAITLIN BURKE, CBN NEWS.

John: TO WATCH THE FULL

INTERVIEW WITH DR. DAVID

STERNS AND TO HEAR HIM TALK

ABOUT THE FAITH OF

DR. BRANTLY, YOU CAN GO TO

OUR WEBSITE, CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT?

Pat: ISIS, BACK TO THE

MIDDLE EAST, SEEMS TO BE

SHOWING EXTRAORDINARY

STETH.

STRENGTH.

THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THE

NORTH AREA AND ARE BATTLING

THE PESHMERGA.

IT SEEMS LIKE IN FIERCE

FIGHTING, THE KURDS HAVE WON

BACK THOSE AREAS.

ISIS ALSO TOOK CONTROL OF A

MAJOR DAM, THAT IN TURN,

CONTROLS THE BORDER FLOW,

ALL THE WAY DOWN INTO THE

TIGRIS VALLEY.

IT IS A VERY STRATEGIC

THING.

IT SEEMS, FROM WHAT I

GATHER, THAT THE KURDS ARE

GETTING IT BACK.

BUT WHAT IS OUR POSTURE

TOWARDS THE KURDS?

I HAVE BEEN MENTIONING THE

FACT WE HELPED THEM AGAINST

SADDAM HUSSEIN, AND THEY

HAVE SET UP AN O ONCLAVE

THERE THAT IS FREE, AND WHAT

ARE WE DOING TO HELP THEM?

IT SEEMS TO BE THE ANSWER IS

ZERO BECAUSE OUR PRESIDENT

IS TOO CONCERNED WITH

RAISING MONEY AT VARIOUS

FUNDRAISERS.

BUT WE OWE THE KURDS

SOMETHING, AND WE NEED TO DO

SOMETHING.

THERE WAS A GOOD EDITORIAL

IN THE WALL STREET "WALL

STREET JOURNAL," AND I'VE

BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS

THING, BUT WE NEED TO DO

SOMETHING.

AND THE GOVERNMENT IN

BAGHDAD HAS FINALLY AGREED

TO LET AIR POWER COME TO

HELP THE KURDS.

THIS ISIS IS GETTING

STRONGER AND STRONGER, AND

IF THEY GAIN ADDITIONAL

TERRITORY, AND IF THEY CAN

GET THE OIL FIELDS IN

KIRKUK, THEY'RE GOING TO BE

SO RICH AND SO POWERFUL, IT

WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO

DISLODGE THEM.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THAT

IS SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO

KEEP ABREAST OF.

WE'LL GIVE YOU A REPORT ON

IT TOMORROW AS WELL.

I JUST THINK YOU NEED TO

WATCH IT.

IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

AGAIN, OUR GOVERNMENT IS

DOING NOTHING, AND IT JUST

MAKES YOU SICK TO SEE THIS

WHOLE THING FALLING APART

BECAUSE FROM THE POLITICAL

THING AND THE PUBLIC

RELATIONS THING, OBAMA HAS

SAID, WELL, THE WAR IS OVER

AND WE'RE OUT, AND SO WE

CAN'T GET BACK IN BECAUSE

THAT WILL MEAN THAT MY

PREVIOUS PRESS BRIEFING

WASN'T ACCURATE.

WELL, A LOT OF THEM HAVEN'T

BEEN ACCURATE, BUT AT LEAST

LET'S CORRECT SOMETHING

NOW.

NOW IS THE TIME.

WE NEED TO AIR LIFT ALL

KINDS OF WEAPONS, IF NOTHING

ELSE, SMALL ARMS AND

AMMUNITION AND MORTERS AND

THAT KIND OF THING.

OVER TO THE PESHMERGA SO

THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO FIGHT

WITH.

THEY'RE WILLING TO FIGHT AND

TO TAKE GROUND AGAINST THIS

ISIS.

OTHERWISE, THERE IS GOING TO

BE THIS CALIPHATE THAT WILL

SOON RUN A LARGE PART OF

SYRIA, AND THEN THEY'LL BE

THREATENING JORDAN.

AND VERY POSSIBLY, THEY CAN

BEGIN TO THREATEN SAUDI

ARABIA AND KUWAIT AND THE

WHOLE MIDDLE EAST.

IT IS A VERY VOLATILE

SITUATION WE CANNOT ALLOW TO

STAND.

BUT ARE WE DOING ANYTHING AS

A NATION OR A GOVERNMENT?

NO.

BECAUSE WE HAVE THINKLESS

LEADERS.

IF YOU EVER PRAY FOR

ANYTHING, PRAY ON THIS ONE.

JOHN?

John: PAT, IT IS

POSSIBLE TERRORISTS COULD

PUT TOGETHER A DIRTY BOMB

FROM THE EBOLA VIRUS.

DR. PETER WALSH TOLD THE SUN

NEWSPAPER THE VIRUS IS

WELL-PROTECTED IN

LABORATORIES, BUT IF

TERRORISTS COULD CAPTURE IT

IN THE WILD IN WES WEST

AFRICA, IT COULD BE PUT IN A

BOOM AND DETONATED IN A

HEAVILY POPULATED AREA.

HE SAID IT COULD CAUSE A

LARGE NUMBER OF HORRIFIC

DEATHS, AND HE SAID IT IS A

THREAT THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN

VERY SERIOUSLY.

ON A LIGHTER NOTE, IF YOU

WANT TO GET AN IDEA OF WHAT

YOUR HORSES ARE THINKING,

JUST WATCH THEIR EARS.

THE LONDON DAILY REPORT

FOUND THAT HORSES CAN READ

FACES, JUST LIKE PEOPLE DO,

BUT THEY GET CRUCIAL

INFORMATION BY PAYING

ATTENTION TO EACH OTHER'S

EARS.

IF THE HORSE IS RELAXED, IT

FLOPS DOWN ITS EARS, BUT IF

IT IS ANGRY, IT PINS THEM

BACK.

THE EARS ARE SO IMPORTANT,

THAT IF COVERED UP, HORSES

COULD HAVE A HARD TIME

THINKING ABOUT WHAT THE

OTHER HORSE IS THINKING.

I GUESS WE HAVE TO RE-THINK

THE PHRASE, "FROM THE

HORSE'S MOUTH."

Terry: SO DO YOU READ

YOUR HORSE'S EARS?

Pat: VISIT OF COURSE

I DO.

WHEN THEY'RE ALERT, THEIR

EARS OF UP.

IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT

YOU'RE DOING, THEY PIN THEIR

EARS BACK.

Terry: THAT WOULD BE A

GOOD ONE TO KNOW.

Pat: OH, YEAH, THEY'LL

TALK TO YOU.

I'M A KINDERGARTEN LEARNER

OF E EQUIS, THE HORSE

LANGUAGE.

THEY TALK.

WHEN YOU REALLY GET THEM TO

RELAX, AND THEY GO

SH-SH-SH-SH-SH, AND YOU KNOW

YOU'RE GETTING TO THEM.

IF THEY'RE HURT AND YOU'RE

MASSAGING THEM, THEY SIGH,

AND YOU KNOW YOU'VE GOT IT

BETTER.

THEY'RE WONDERFUL

CREATURES.

Terry: COMING UP, THE

UNTOLD STORY FROM THE WORLD

OF ISLAM, HOW THOUSANDS OF

FORMER MUSLIMS ARE COMING TO

FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST.

Pat: WELL, IT'S THE

UNTOLD STORY THAT MOST

FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM DON'T

WANT YOU TO HEAR.

THOUSANDS OF MOHAMMED'S

DISCIPLES HAVE BECOME

FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CHRIST.

AND IT IS A TREND SPREADING

THROUGHOUT THE ISLAMIC

WORLD.

Reporter: FROM AFRICA

TO THE MIDDLE EAST TO ASIA,

49 ISLAMIC NATIONS ARE HOME

TO THE MAJORITY OF THE

WORLD'S 1.6 BILLION

MUSLIMS.

THAT'S NEARLY ONE QUARTER OF

THE WORLD'S POPULATION.

FOR MOST OF ITS 1400 YEAR

HISTORY, THE ISLAMIC WORLD

HAS BEEN CLOSED AND HOSTILE

TO THE GOSPEL.

BUT IN JUST THE LAST FEW

DECADES, THERE HAS BEEN A

DRAMATIC SHIFT.

THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS PUTTING

THEIR FAITH IN CHRIST.

RESEARCHER AND AUTHOR DAVID

GARRISON EXPLORES THE

PHENOMENON IN HIS BOOK, "A

WIND IN THE HOUSE OF ISLAM,

HOW GOD IS DRAWING MUSLIMS

AROUND THE WORLD TO FAITH IN

JESUS CHRIST."

GARRISON ASKED A THOUSAND

MUSLIM BACKGROUND BELIEVERS

ONE SIMPLE QUESTION: WHAT

DID GOD USE TO BRING YOU TO

FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST?

Pat: WELL, HERE IS THE

BOOK, AND IT'S CALLED "A

WIND IN THE HOUSE OF

ISLAM."

AND THE AUTHOR, DAVID

GARRISON, IS HERE WITH US.

DAVID, IT IS GOOD TO SEE

YOU.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU.

Pat: HOW FAR DID YOU

TRAVEL TO GET ALL OF THIS

RESEARCH?

I TRAVELLED MORE THAN A

QUARTER OF A MILLION MILES.

FROM WES WEST AFRICA TO

INDONESIA, AND I WAS ABLE TO

GATHER MORE THAN A THOUSAND

STORIES, WHO WERE PARTS OF

MOVEMENTS OF AT LEAST A

THOUSAND.

Pat: IN ORDER TO COUNT

THEM, THERE HAS TO BE AT

LEAST A THOUSAND CHURCHES?

THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

Pat: AND YOU PUT THE

QUESTION TO THEM, WHAT

BROUGHT YOU TO FAITH IN

JESUS?

THERE WAS ONE COMMON

THREAD THAT RAN THROUGH THE

STORIES, AND THAT WAS AN

ENCOUNTER WITH THE LIVING

LORD, WITH JESUS CHRIST.

THEY MET HEM AN HIM AND HE

BECAME REAL TO THEM.

Pat: WHAT DO YOU MEAN

HE MET HIM?

IN MUCH THE SAME WAY WE

DID.

IN SOME CASES IT WAS DREAMS

AND VISIONS, AND WE'VE HEARD

A LOT ABOUT THAT, WHEN JESUS

BROKE INTO THEIR DREAMS AND

VISIONS.

IN OTHER CASES, IT WAS AN

ANSWER TO A PRAYER, A TASTE

TO SEE STH TH THAT THE LORD

IS GOOD.

THEY'VE HEARD THE GOSPEL

THROUGH SOMETIMES A

BROADCAST OR A RADIO OR A

CHRISTIAN, AND THEY HAD TO

SEE FOR THEMSELVES.

AND SO THEY PRAYED.

AND THEY SAID, IF YOU'RE

REALLY THERE -- AND THEN

FILL IN THE BLANK, AND JESUS

SHOWED UP.

Pat: YOU HAD THE STORY

OF THE MOUNT OF THE TRANS

TRANSFIGURATION, AND THEY

SAY THIS REFLECTED THEIR OWN

EXPERIENCE?

IT BECAME SO COMMON FOR

US TO HEAR STORIES FROM

MUSLIMS WHO SAID, I SAW THIS

BEAM IN MY DREAM, AND HE WAS

AS LIGHT AT THE SUN.

AND HE HAD A BRIGHT GLOW,

AND I COULDN'T MAKE OUT WHO

IT WAS.

SO RATHER THAN TELL THEM IT

WAS JESUS, WHICH THEY MIGHT

REJECT OR ACCEPT, WE WOULD

HAND THEM A BIBLE, AND POINT

THEM TO MATTHEW 1 OR 2, AND

THEY WOULD READ IT AND SEE,

JESUS WAS TRANSFIGURED

BEFORE THEM.

AND THEY WOULD SAY, THIS IS

THE GUY IN MY DREAMS.

AND THEN THEY WERE ON THEIR

WAY TO DISCOVERING JESUS

THEMSELVES.

Pat: HAVE YOU EVER

FIGURED OUT WHY JESUS

DOESN'T DO THAT HERE IN

AMERICA VERY MUCH, TO THE

STANDARD PROTESTANT

CHRISTIAN.

I THINK SINCE SIGMUND

FRAUD, WE STOPPED LISTENING

TO OUR DREAMS IN THE U.S.

WE PASS IT OFF TO BAD PIZZA

WE HAD THE NIGHT BEFORE.

BUT IN THE MUSLIM WORLD,

SINCE THE 14th CENTURY,

THEY'VE BEEN HAVING THESE

DREAMS.

AND ONLY NOW ARE THEY

DISCOVERING THAT SOMEONE IS,

IN FACT, JESUS.

Pat: THERE ARE THE

SENETS OF ABRAHAM, BUT IS IT

THEIR DEDICATION?

THEY ARE SO DEDICATED TO

THEIR RELIGION?

WELL, THEY ARE, AND THERE

IS A LOT OF SOCIAL PRESSURE

IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE NOT GIVEN THEñ

LATITUDE TO BE AN UNBELIEVER

IN THE MUSLIM WORLD.

SO WE FOUND OFTENTIMES THERE

IS A VENEER OF DEDICATION,

BUT WHEN YOU PEEL IT BACK,

THERE IS A LOT OF UNREST.

ISLAM IS A VERY OPPRESSIVE

RELIGION BECAUSE THERE IS SO

MUCH STRICKTURE.

IF A MUSLIM DECIDES TO GO

ANOTHER WAY, THERE IS A

PENALTY FOR THAT, AND THAT

PENALTY FOR THAT, WHICH IS

DEATH.

AND THEY WANT A SENSE OF

FREEDOM, TO DECIDE FOR

MYSELF WHAT I WANT.

Pat: IF THEY HAVE A

DREAM AND THEY PROFESS

JESUS, THAT MEANS THEY'RE

OPEN GAME, THEY CAN BE

KILLED.

ARE THEY WILLING TO ENDURE

THAT POSSIBILITY?

PAT, I INTERVIEWED

LEADERS FROM ALL SECTORS OF

SOCIETY.

WOMEN AND MEN, AND IN ONE

PLACE I HAD 20 GATHERED WHO

WERE IMAMS AND SHEIKHS.

AND ONE OF THE FOLLOWERS

SAID HE WAS BAPTIZED, AND HE

IS TEACHING JESUS IN THE

MOSQUE, AND HE IS TRYING TO

STAY THERE AS LONG AS HE CAN

TO WIN AS MANY AS HE CAN.

AND THE LEADERS IN THE

MOSQUE SAID, YOU'RE TEACHING

CHRISTIANITY, AND YOU CAN'T

STAY HERE.

AND THEY THREW HIM OUT.

AND HE FILED A LAWSUIT TO BE

ABLE TO STAY IN THE MOSQUE.

HE SAID, I WANT TO STAY AS

LONG AS I CAN, UNTIL THEY

KILL ME, BECAUSE I WANT TO

LEAD AS MANY AS I CAN TO

JESUS CHRIST BEFORE THEY

KILL ME.

Pat: YOU WENT INTO

INDONESIA, AND WHAT DID YOU

FIND THERE?

THAT IS, QUOTE,"THE LARGEST

MUSLIM COUNTRY," BUT IT

REALLY IS?

THEY HAVE A CULTURE OF

BLENDING TOGETHER VARIOUS

RELIGIONS, AND YOU HAVE

BUDDHISM AND ISLAM.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE

ENCOUNTERING JESUS CHRIST.

A LOT OF CONVERSIONS TOOK

PLACE IN INDONESIA IN 1970

TO 1971.

FOLLOWING THE YEAR OF LIVING

DANGEROUSLY, IN 1965, WHEN

500,000 INDONESIANS WERE

MURDERED BY OTHER

INDONESIANS.

AND MANY SAID, IF THIS IS

ISLAM, MAYBE I'M A

CHRISTIAN.

2.8MILLION WERE BAPTIZED IN

THE YEARS THAT FOLLOWED.

Pat: YOU HAD IN YOUR

BOOK ABOUT SUCARNO AND

SUARTO, AND THERE WAS

VICIOUS FIGHTING.

THERE WAS, INDEED.

YOU REMEMBER THE COUP, AND

INDONESIA WAS IN ITS PATH.

AS A RESULT, THERE WAS A

VIOLENT REACTION AGAINST

COMMUNISM.

AND ANYONE WHO'S RELIGION

WAS AMBIGUOUS, THEY SAID

KILL THEM.

AND SO PEOPLE TOOK THIS AS

AN OPPORTUNITY, AND THEY

LITERALLY WENT DOOR TO DOOR

AND CUT THROATS AND CUT OFF

HEADS.

Pat: IS THERE ANY

COUNTRY THAT LOOKS LIKE IT

IS THE PRIME TARGET OF

CHRISTIANITY, THAT YOU FIND

RIGHT NOW?

WELL, THE AMAZING THING

ABOUT THIS, AND I LOOK BACK

OVER 14 CENTURIES OF MUSLIM

MOVEMENTS TO CHRIST TO SEE

IS THIS UNUSUAL TODAY?

WHAT I FOUND WAS 82

MOVEMENTS IN THE COURSE OF

14 CENTURIES.

69 OF THEM ARE HAPPENING

TODAY.

WHAT IS AMAZING IS THAT

WE'RE LIVING IN THE MIDST OF

THE GREATEST TURNING OF

MUSLIMS TO CHRIST.

AND IT IS LITERALLY SPREAD

FROM WEST AFRICA TO

INDONESIA.

OF COURSE, IRAN IS THE PLACE

WE HEAR ABOUT THAT PROBABLY

HAS THE LARGEST SINGLE

TURNING.

SO MANY MUSLIMS IN IRAN ARE

COMING TO JESUS CHRIST.

Pat: THEY CAN'T STAND

THE OPPRESSION.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WHEN WE SEE IN THE NEWS THE

VIOLENCE AND THE ATROCITIES

IN THE MUSLIM WORLD, WE NEED

TO REALIZE MUSLIMS ARE ALSO

EXPERIENCING THAT.

MORE SO THAN EVEN WE ARE,

AND IN MANY CASES, IT IS

DRAWING THEM TO FAITH IN

JESUS CHRIST.

THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A BETTER

WAY, A DIFFERENT WAY.

AND SO WHERE THERE IS

VIOLENCE, THERE IS

HOSTILITY, AND THERE IS ALSO

THE GRACE OF THE GOSPEL.

Pat: WILL THERE BE A

GREAT UPHEAVAL IN THE MUSLIM

WORLD, AN OVERTHROWING WHERE

YOU FIND CHRISTIANITY

EMERGING IN OTHER

COUNTRIES?

IT IS GOING TO BE TOUGH.

ISLAM IS THE WORLD'S ONLY

MAJOR RELIGION THAT WAS

TAILOR-MADE TO DEFEAT

CHRISTIANITY.

FOR ABOUT 13 CENTURIES, IT

DID A PRETTY GOOD JOB.

TENS OF MILLIONS OF

CHRISTIANS WERE TRANSLATED

INTO THE MUSLIM WORLD.

OUT OF 1.6 MUSLIMS, WE'RE

LOOKING AT A TINY BEGINNING

POINT.

BUT IF THIS PATTERN

CONTINUES, THIS COULD BE THE

BEGINNINGS OF SOMETHING

WONDERFUL.

Pat: WELL, WE HOPE

SEE.

AND THE BOOK IS CALLED "A

WIND IN THE HOUSE OF

ISLAM."

YOU OUGHT TO GET A COPY OF

IT.

IT IS VERY WELL-DONE AND

EXTRAORDINARILY DETAILED.

OUR BROTHER'S TREK ACROSS

THAT VAST LAND IS IN THIS.

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH

US.

THANK YOU, PAT.

GOD BLESS YOU.

Pat: TERRY?

Terry: UP NEXT, A

SURVIVOR OF SEXUAL ABUSES IS

PARALYZED WITH PANIC.

I WAS AFRAID SOMEBODY

WOULD ABUSE ME AGAIN.

I WAS AFRAID OF GETTING

KILLED.

I WAS AFRAID OF MEN.

I ALWAYS HAD THIS FEAR THAT

SOMEBODY WAS STALKING ME.

Terry: SEE HOW A

LIFETIME OF FEAR ENDED IN

JUST 20 MINUTES.

Terry: THE LIFE OF THE

AMISH IS KNOWN FOR ITS

SIMPLE TRANQUILITY, BUT NOT

FOR CATHY SMOKER.

AS A CHILD, SHE WAS STALKED

AND REPEATEDLY ABUSED IN THE

SANCTITY OF HER OWN FAMILY'S

FARM, AND THAT PARALYZED HER

AS A WOMAN.

Reporter: GROWING UP ON

HER FAMILY'S DAIRY FARM IN

PENNSYLVANIA'S AMISH

COUNTRY, CATHY LOVED PLAYING

OUTDOORS.

SHE SEEMED HAPPY, BUT SHE

WAS KEEPING A SECRET SHE

WOULD NOT DARE TELL

ANYBODY.

I WAS BEING SEXUALLY

ABUSED AS A CHILD.

MY ABUSER STALKED ME.

HE WAS ON THE FARM ALMOST

DAILY.

HE WAS A VERY CLOSE

NEIGHBOR.

Reporter: CATHY DOESN'T

REMEMBER WHEN THE ABUSE

STARTED, BUT SHE REMEMBERS

HOW IT MADE HER FEEL.

I WAS SCARED ALL OF THE

TIME, JUST TERRIFIED.

AND IT GOT TO THE POINT

WHERE I DIDN'T WANT TO GO

OUTSIDE ALONE BECAUSE IF HE

WAS OVER, HE WOULD FIND ME.

SO I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING OVER

MY SHOULDER.

ANXIETY AND FEAR AND A LOT

OF CONFUSION.

Reporter: CATHY TRIED

HIDING, BUT THE MAN ALWAYS

FOUND HER.

HE CONVINCED HER THAT WHAT

HE WAS DOING WAS OKAY.

I REALLY COMPLETELY

ACCEPTED IT.

AND I COMPLETELY BELIEVED IT

WAS THE TRUTH.

I WOULD LOOK AT OTHER KIDS,

AND I WOULD BE, LIKE, WELL

WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME BOAT.

Reporter: DEEP DOWN,

SHE KNEW IT WAS WRONG.

OUT OF FEAR, SHE TOLD NO

ONE, AND THE ABUSE LASTED

FOR YEARS.

IT DIDN'T STOP UNTIL SHE WAS

14, WHEN HER FAMILY MOVED

AWAY.

BY THEN HER SELF-WORTH WAS

SHATTERED.

AS A TEENAGER, I HAD AN

EXTREME AMOUNT OF ANGER AND

SELF-LOATHING.

I REALLY DID HAVE A LOT

GOING FOR MYSELF, BUT I

DIDN'T SEE IT, I COULDN'T

SEE IT.

I COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING GOOD

IN MYSELF.

Reporter: AND SHE WAS

ALSO OVERWHELMED WITH FEAR.

I WAS AFRAID SOMEBODY

WOULD ABUSE ME AGAIN.

I WAS AFRAID OF GETTING

KILLED.

I WAS AFRAID OF MEN.

NOT ALL, BUT SOME.

I ALWAYS HAD THIS FEAR THAT

SOMEBODY WAS STALKING ME.

Reporter: WHEN SHE WAS

18, SHE LEFT HOME AND MOVED

IN WITH A FRIEND.

DESPITE HER AMISH

BACKGROUND, SHE NEVER

ACCEPTED CHRIST.

ONE SUNDAY SHE WENT TO

CHURCH WITH HER ROOMMATE.

I JUST WANTED TO KNOW

SOMETHING GREATER THAN

MYSELF.

I DESPERATELY WANTED THAT.

BECAUSE MYSELF WASN'T DOING

VERY GOOD.

Reporter: SHE GAVE HER

LIFE TO CHRIST AND LEFT THE

AMISH WAY OF LIFE.

AS A BELIEVER, I

DISCOVERED THAT I NEED TO

REALLY SEEK GOD WITH ALL OF

MY HEART.

I GOT TO THE PLACE WHERE I

TRUST GOD.

Reporter: BUT SHE WAS

STILL DEALING WITH FEAR AND

STARTED HAVING PANIC

ATTACKS.

NOW 22, SHE MARRIED AN OLD

FRIEND NAMED BENJI.

SHE NEVER TOLD ANYONE ABOUT

THE ABUSE, BUT SHE FELT SHE

HAD FINALLY FOUND SOMEONE

SHE COULD TRUST.

I KNEW THAT HE WOULD CARE

AND HE WOULD TAKE ME

SERIOUSLY, AND HE WOULD

LISTEN.

Reporter: ONE NIGHT,

CATHY HAD ANOTHER PANIC

ATTACK.

I FELT ALL OF THIS

ANXIETY AND TERRIBLE FEAR.

I COULDN'T EVEN FUNCTION.

I WAS CRYING, AND BENJI WAS

HOLDING ME.

AND HE SAID, HONEY, HAVE YOU

EVER TALKED TO GOD IN A REAL

WAY ABOUT ALL OF THE HURT

AND THE PAIN, JUST LAID IT

OUT ON THE TABLE BEFORE GOD

AND SAID, GOD, JUST TAKE

THIS FROM ME?

AND I JUST OPENED UP TO GOD,

AND I SAID, JUST TAKE

EVERYTHING.

I LAID IT ALL OUT IN

DETAIL.

I EXPLAINED EVERYTHING THAT

WAS IN THERE THAT WAS

HURTING ME.

I COULD JUST FEEL HIS

PRESENCE SO STRONG, AND HE

JUST TOOK IT FROM ME.

AND I NEVER HAD A PANIC

ATTACK AGAIN AFTER THAT

NIGHT.

Reporter: CATHY WENT TO

A CHRISTIAN COUNSELLOR, AND

OVER TIME SHE WAS ABLE TO

SHED THE FEELINGS OF ANGER

AND SELF-HATRED.

GOD GAVE EVERYBODY A

CHOICE.

AND THE SAME AS HE GAVE MY

ABUSER THE CHOICE TO ABUSE

ME AND MANY OTHER KIDS, HE

ALSO GAVE ME A CHOICE AS TO

WHAT I'LL DO WITH IT.

I HAD A GOOD COUNSELLOR HELP

ME WORK THROUGH THINGS, AND

I HAD GOD.

I JUST HAD PEOPLE AROUND ME

THAT WERE VERY KEY IN

HELPING ME ON MY HEALING

JOURNEY.

Reporter: TODAY SHE AND

BENJI HAVE FOUR DAUGHTERS,

AND CATHY MENTORS YOUNG

WOMEN WHO ARE SURVIVORS OF

SEXUAL ABUSE.

SHE LOVES TO TELL THEM HOW

JESUS FREED HER FROM THE

PAIN OF HER PAST.

TO ME, JESUS IS THE

REASON I CAN ENJOY LIFE,

REALLY.

AND HE'S THE REASON I'M FREE

OF THE THINGS THAT WERE

HOLDING ME BACK.

I'M SO THANKFUL FOR THAT.

Terry: YOU KNOW, GOD

CREATED SUCH A BEAUTIFUL

WORLD, AND HE EXPECTED US TO

ENJOY IT.

AND LOTS OF THE TIMES THINGS

COME INTO OUR LIVES THAT

WOUND US OR THAT HURT US,

THAT FRIGHTEN US, AND THAT

LEAVE A MARK ON US, AND WE

REALLY CAN'T ENJOY LIFE

EVERY DAY.

WE'RE TRAPPED.

WE GET STUCK IN PLACES THAT

WE'RE MEANT TO BE FREE

FROM.

JESUS SAID HE CAME TO SET

THE CAPTIVE FREE, AND THAT'S

YOU AND ME.

AND HE ALSO DIED ON THE

CROSS TO FREE US FROM OUR

SIN.

NOT JUST US INDIVIDUALLY,

BUT THOSE AROUND US AS

WELL.

THE WHOLE WORLD.

IT'S FINISHED, HE SAID.

IT'S DONE.

AND SO FOR CATHY, SHE

FINALLY FOUND THAT FREEDOM

IN JESUS CHRIST.

I WANT TO SAY TO YOU TODAY,

AS YOU'RE LISTENING TO HER

STORY, ARE YOU NEEDING A

FRESH BEGINNING?

THAT'S WHY THEY CALL JESUS

THE REDEEMER.

HE DIED, AND HE CAPTIVELY

TOOK SINS.

AND THEN HE SET YOU AND I

FREE.

AND HE REDEEMED WHAT HAD

BEEN LOST.

SO HE GIVES YOU A FRESH

BEGINNING.

HOW DO YOU GET THAT?

CATHY'S HUSBAND WAS REALLY

WISE IN SAYING, HAVE YOU

EVER JUST LAID IT OUT BEFORE

JESUS?

HAVE YOU EVER JUST TALKED TO

HIM?

HE IS THE ONE WHO PAID THE

PRICE, AND YOU CAN TALK TO

HIM ABOUT EVERYTHING.

HE ALREADY KNOWS IT, BUT

SOMETHING HAPPENS WHEN WE

SPEAK IT OUT OF OUR BEINGS

BEFORE HIM.

WHEN WE SAY, GOD, TAKE

THIS.

THIS HAS DAMAGED ME.

OR, GOD, I'VE DONE THIS,

I'VE DONE THAT.

MAYBE THE SIN HAS BEEN

YOURS.

MAYBE THE ACT COMMITTED THAT

HAS GRABBED HOLD OF YOUR

SOUL HAS BEEN SOMETHING

YOU'VE DONE.

ASK FOR FORGIVENESS.

ASK FOR FORGIVENESS.

THE BIBLE SAYS WHEN GOD

FORGIVES US, HE FORGIVES OUR

SIN AS FAR AS THE EAST IS

FROM THE WEST, AND HE

REMEMBERS IT NO MORE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO CARRY THAT

WEIGHT OR THAT BURDEN AROUND

WITH YOU ANYMORE.

TODAY, RIGHT NOW, THIS

MOMENT, YOU CAN BE SET

FREE?

WILL YOU RECEIVE IT?

YOU SEE, IT'S THERE.

IT'S FOR EVERYONE.

IT'S ALWAYS AVAILABLE.

THE QUESTION IS: WHAT WILL

YOU DO WITH WHAT GOD IS

OFFERING TO YOU?

TODAY, DON'T LET JESUS JUST

BE SOMEONE YOU KNOW ABOUT IN

YOUR HEAD.

HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP

WITH HIM.

THE KIND WHERE YOU CAN GO

HEAD TO HEAD WITH HIM, LAY

IT ALL OUT BEFORE HIM, AND

KNOW THAT HE IS THERE AND HE

GETS IT.

YOU'RE NOT JUST DOING THIS

INTO THE AIR.

ONCE YOU INVITE HIM INTO

YOUR HEART, HE NEVER LEAVES

YOU.

JESUS SAID, I WILL NEVER

LEAVE YOU OR FORSAKE YOU.

BEGIN THE JOURNEY BY ASKING

YOU INTO YOUR HEART AND

LIFE, BUT GIVING HIM ALL

THAT YOU ARE AND EVERYTHING

THAT HAS BEEN A PART OF YOUR

LIFE.

PRAY WITH ME RIGHT NOW.

START THE ADVENTURE.

START THE JOURNEY.

START THE NEW BEGINNING.

START THE FREEDOM.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT COMES

FROM HIM.

PRAY WITH ME.

JESUS, I'M COMING TO YOU

TODAY, AND I AM SAYING I

NEED A FRESH START.

I WANT A NEW BEGINNING, GOD,

AND I KNOW I CAN'T DO THIS

ON MY OWN.

AND SO I'M ASKING YOU,

JESUS, TO FORGIVE MY SINS.

THEY ARE MANY.

YOU KNOW EACH AND EVERY ONE

OF THEM.

I CONFESS THEM TO YOU

TODAY.

I AM SICK AND TIRED OF BEING

SICK AND TIRED.

I'M SICK OF THE PERSON I'VE

BECOME AND THE WAY THAT I

LIVE.

I'M SICK OF THE THINGS THAT

CONTROL ME.

I'M LAYING IT ALL OUT BEFORE

YOU, ASKING YOU TO BE THE

LORD OF MY LIFE AND THE

SAVIOR OF MY SOUL, GOD.

WOULD YOU COME IN NOW AND

CLEANSE ME?

CLEANSE ME AND GIVE ME A NEW

BEGINNING.

I WANT THE KIND OF FRESH

START, GOD, THAT LET'S ME

MAKE A TURNAROUND, LIVE FOR

YOU.

CHANGE THE WAY I THINK,

CHANGE THE WAY I DO THINGS.

I WANT MY LIFE TO MATTER FOR

YOU.

SO HERE I AM, GOD.

RECEIVING YOU.

HOLY SPIRIT, COME INTO MY

HEART AND MY MIND AND MY

LIFE, AND TEACH ME YOUR

WAYS.

JESUS, I GIVE YOU ALL THAT I

AM AND ALL THAT I HAVE.

I RECEIVE THE FORGIVENESS

YOU GIVE ME, AND I OFFER

FORGIVENESS TO THOSE WHO

HAVE HURT AND WOUNDED ME.

SET ME FREE SO I CAN LIVE

FOR YOU.

SET ME FREE SO I CAN WALK IN

THE JOY OF KNOWING YOU.

I ASK THIS IN YOUR NAME,

JESUS.

AMEN.

IF YOU'VE JUST PRAYED THAT

PRAYER, THEN YOU'VE BEGUN A

GREAT ADVENTURE.

SO WHAT DO YOU DO NOW?

YOU'VE SAID THE PRAYER, AND

HOW DO YOU GROW?

WELL, PAT HAS PUT TOGETHER A

PACKET FOR YOU CALLED "A NEW

DAY."

HOW DO YOU GO FORWARD FROM

HERE?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE A

CHRISTIAN?

HO DO YOU CHANGHOW DO YOU

CHANGE THE WAY YOU THINK,

THE WAY YOU WALK?

IT'S RIGHT THERE.

THE NUMBER IS ON THE

SCREEN.

JUST CALL AND SAY, I PRAYED

WITH THE LADY OF TV, AND I

WOULD LIKE THE "NEW DAY"

PACKET, AND WE'LL GET IT OUT

TO YOU.

PAT?

Pat: STILL AHEAD, WE'LL

"BRING IT ON" WITH YOUR

E-MAIL QUESTIONS.

RON SAID, "DID JESUS SPEND

TIME IN HELL?"

WELL, I THINK I CAN GIVE HIM

AN ANSWER AFTER THIS.

WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700>]

CLUB."

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CALLING ON BRITAIN'S

GOVERNMENT TO OPEN ITS DOORS

TO CHRISTIANS FLEEING

PERSECUTION IN IRAQ.

THE LONDON GUARDIAN

NEWSPAPER REPORTS A GROWING,]

NUMBER OF BISHOPS ARE>é

SPEAKING OUT.

THEY SAY THE U.K. HAS A

MORAL OBLIGATION TO HELP THE

CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY BECAUSE

OF ITS ROLE IN THE 2003

INVASION.

AN ESTIMATED ONE MILLION

CHRISTIANS LIVED IN IRAQ

BEFORE THE INVASION, BUT

MOST HAVE FLED DUE TO

ATTACKS BY JIHADISTS.

IN JUNE, THE MILITANTS TOOK

OVER THE ANCIENT CHRISTIAN

CITY OF MOSUL, CAUSING TENS

OF THOUSANDS TO FREE.

FRANCE HAS ALREADY ANNOUNCED

IT WILL GIVE ASYLUM TO IRAQI

CHRISTIANS.

WHOEVER SAID PRAYING DOESN'T

PAY HASN'T EATEN AT MARY'S

GOURMET DINER IN NORTH

CAROLINA.

THE WINSTON, SALEM DINER

GIVES A 15% DISCOUNT TO

THOSE WHO SAY A BLESSING

BEFORE THEY DIG IN.

THE CHRISTIAN RADIO STATION

IN ORLANDO POSTED THIS

RECEIPT WITH A DISCOUNT, AND

IT GAINED WIDESPREAD

ATTENTION.

THIS PATRON TOLD H.L.N. SHE

AND HER COLLEAGUES PRAYED

BEFORE THEIR MEAL, AND THE

WAITRESS CAME OVER,

SURPRISING THEM, THAT YOU'RE

GETTING A 15% DISCOUNT JUST

FOR PRAYING.

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PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Pat: WELCOME BACK.

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB."

IT IS TIME FOR YOUR

QUESTIONS, BUT, TERRY,

BEFORE WE START, DID YOU

EVER WATCH A SHOW CALLED

"JEOPARDY?"

Terry: YES, I DO.

Pat: MY WIFE LIKES

"JEOPARDY."

LAST NIGHT WE WERE WATCHING

JEOPARDY, AND THEY HAD SOME

PUBLIC SCHOOL TEACHERS ON,

THREE OF THEM.

THEIR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE WAS

SO APPALLING, I COULDN'T

BELIEVE IT.

[LAUGHTER]

Terry: DO YOU THINK IT

IS NERVES?

Pat: NO, IT'S NOT

NERVOUS.

THE LAST ONE, THEY COULDN'T

IDENTIFY THE FACT THAT

HUGHES WAS INVOLVED WITH THE

SUPREME COURT.

THEY SAID, WHAT BUILDING WAS

HE INVOLVED IN, AND HE SPENT

SIX YEARS WORKING -- COULD

YOU BELIEVE IT?

NOT ONE OF THEM GOT IT.

AND SOME OF THE QUESTIONS

WERE -- I MEAN, FIFTH

GRADERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO

ANSWER.

THE PROBLEM IS -- AND I AM

HEAD OF A COLLEGE THAT HAS A

DOCTORATE IN EDUCATION, SO I

KNOW WHERE OF I SPEAK.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE'RE

TRAINING TEACHERS IN

TECHNIQUES OF TEACHING, BUT

WE'RE NOT TEACHING THEM

CONTENT.

WE SAW THAT COMMERCIAL FOR

K-12, I DON'T KNOW WHAT

THEY'RE DOING --

Terry: I DON'T,

EITHER.

BUT IT IS PUBLIC EDUCATION

ON LINE.

Pat: THREE OF THEM

MAKING A FOOL OF THEMSELVES

ON TV.

Terry: IF I WERE A

TEACHER, I DON'T KNOW IF I

WOULD GO ON TV.

Pat: SO I HAVE JUST

VENTED.

ASK ME A QUESTION.

Terry: THIS IS FROM

RON, PAT, WHO SAYS, "DID

JESUS SPEND TIME IN HELL?"

I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK

THAT QUESTION, AND NOT

NECESSARILY ON "BRING IT

ON."

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE

ASK IT PERSONALLY.

THERE IS A SCRIPTURE THAT

SAYS HE WENT TO --

Pat: AND PREACHED TO

THOSE IN PRISON.

Terry: YEAH, HE

PREACHED TO THOSE IN

PRISON.

Pat: I DON'T KNOW IF

THAT WAS FINAL HELL.

Terry: THIS IS A VIEWER

WHO SAYS, "DEAR, PAT, MY

HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN

ARGUING ABOUT THE 10

COMMANDMENTS, AND HE SAYS

THEY HAVE BEEN DONE AWAY

WITH, AND ONLY TWO ARE THE

LAW.

I BELIEVE THE LAW IS IN

EFFECT THE 10 COMMANDMENTS.

WHAT'S THE TRUTH ABOUT

THIS?"

Pat: AND A SENSE, YOU

BOTH ARE RIGHT.

BUT THE LORD SAID, ON THESE

HANG ALL OF THE LORD AND THE

PROPHETS.

AND IF YOU READ THE

COMMANDMENTS, THE FIRST PART

OF THEM HAS TO DO WITH YOUR

ALLEGIANCE TO GOD.

THE NEXT HAS TO DO WITH YOUR

RELATIONSHIP TO YOUR FELLOW

MAN.

YOU DON'T STEAL HIS WIFE.

YOU DON'T STEAL HIS

PROPERTY.

YOU DON'T LAUGH AT HIM IN

COURT AND SO FORTH.

AND HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE

PROTECTED AGAINST YOUR

ATTACKS.

AND SO THAT'S LOVING YOUR

NEIGHBOR, DOING TO HIM AS

YOU WOULD HAVE OTHERS DO

UNTO YOU.

Terry: SO IT WASN'T

NULLIFYING THE REST OF THEM;

IT WAS INCLUDING THEM ALL.

Pat: THE LORD SAID, AS

LONG AS HEAVEN AND EARTH

LASTS.

Terry: THIS IS LINDA

WHO SAYS, "MY PARENTS OF 89

AND 91 YEARS OLD.

MY FATHER SUFFERS FROM

DEMENTIA AND ALZHEIMER'S,

HOWEVER, MY THE MOTHER

REFUSES TO PUT HIM INTO A

NURSING FACILITY.

A MONTH AGO, SHE FELL AND

WOUND U UP IN THE HOSPITAL,

AND IS NOW IN REHAB.

SHE IS EXPECTING MY STEP

BROTHER TO CARE FOR HIM AND

TO HELP.

YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS TAKING

CARE OF HIM, I FELT WHAT WE

WERE DOING IS WRONG.

WE HAVE STRIPPED A MAN OF

DIGNITY.

FURTHERMORE, HE COULD FALL

AND HURT HIMSELF.

I CONFRONTED MY MOTHER ABOUT

THIS, BUT SHE INSISTS

OTHERWISE.

HERE IS MY PROBLEM: DO I

REFUSE TO HELP ANYMORE

BECAUSE I FEEL WHAT SHE IS

DOING IS WRONG?

OR DO I CONTINUE TO HELP MY

PARENTS.

I'M REALLY CONFLICTED ABOUT

THIS."

Pat: YOU'RE PHRASING

THE QUESTION WRONG.

YOUR FATHER HAS ALREADY BEEN

STRIPPED OF HIS DIGNITY.

HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT IS

GOING ON.

YOUR MOTHER IS FRAIL AND IS

IN DANGER OF DAMAGING

HERSELF OR YOUR FATHER.

YOU NEED TO GET A LEGAL

POINT OF CONSERVATORSHIP,

AND YOUR FATHER SHOULD BE

PUT IN AN INSTITUTION WHERE

HE CAN BE CARED FOR 24 HOURS

A DAY.

SOMEONE WITH ADVANCED

ALZHEIMER'S, HE COULD BURN

THE PLACE UP.

YOUR MOTHER CAN'T HANDLE

THIS.

THEY'RE TOO OLD AND FRAIL.

AND YOU NEED TO DO THIS FOR

THEIR OWN GOOD.

SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT ALL OF

THIS STUFF YOUR TALKING

ABOUT.

YOU NEED TO FORCE THEM TO DO

SOMETHING AT THIS POINT IN

TIME.

SHE APPARENTLY IS UNWILLING

OR UNABLE TO DO WHAT SHE

NEEDS TO TO PROTECT

HERSELF.

Terry: THIS IS DEBRA

WHO SAYS, "I HAVE COME

ACROSS A NUMBER OF

SCRIPTURES WHEN EXPLAIN TO

US THE RIGHT HAND OF THE

LORD.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT

THE SIGNIFICANCE IS?"

Pat: THE RIGHT HAND IS

SUPPOSED TO BE THE HAND YOU

WORK WITH, AND YOU DO

SOMETHING AT THE RIGHT HAND

OF THE LORD.

IN ITALY, THE WORD LEFT IS

SINISTER.

I'M LEFT-HANDED, AND SO

THERE HAS BEEN A CONSPIRACY

AGAINST ME FOR ALL OF MY

LIFE.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: IN THE BIBLE, IT'S

NOT YOUR LEFT HAND.

FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WOULDN'T

SHAKE HANDS WITH YOUR LEFT

HAND UNLESS YOUR RIGHT HAND

WAS INJURED.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS

ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEFT

HAND, BUT THE RIGHT HAND IS

THE ONE OF POWER OF FORCE.

AND A WARRIOR WOULD HOLD A

WEAPON IN HIS RIGHT HAND

BECAUSE MOST OF THEM ARE

RIGHT-HANDED.

ALL RIGHT.

Terry: FRANK SAYS,

"SOME YEARS AGO I WAS VERY

DRUNK AND YELLING SOME VERY

BAD THINGS AGAINST GOD, THE

HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS, AND

MARY.

I WANT TO KNOW IF I WILL BE

FORGIVEN FOR THIS.

I'M TRULY SORRY FOR WHAT I

SAID.

IT RIPS ME APART EVERY DAY.

I THINK I'VE TOLD GOD, THE

HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS, AND MARY

EACH DAY I'M SORRY.

THIS IS VERY PAINFUL TO ME.

I'VE WATCHED YOUR SHOW SINCE

1982, AND YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF

THE BIBLE MEANS VERY MUCH TO

ME."

Pat: JESUS CHRIST WAS

CASTING OUT DEVILS.

AND THE AS FAR A PHARISEE

SAID THEY'RE CASTING OUT

DEVILS.

AND JESUS THEN SAID, ALL THE

AMOUNT OF EVIL AND SINS CAN

BE FORGIVEN EXCEPT A SIN

AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT.

IF YOU READ THE TECHNICAL

GREEK, IT IS LIKE A ONE-TIME

THING.

I BELIEVE MOST PEOPLE

REALIZE THAT THE ONLY SIN

THAT CANNOT BE FORGIVEN IS

CONTINUALLY RESISTING THE

WOOING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

THAT BRINGS YOU TO JESUS.

THAT'S THE UNFORGIVING SIN.

OBVIOUSLY IN YOUR CASE YOU

DID SOMETHING WRONG, BUT IF

THE LORD THAT DEPARTED FROM

YOU YOU WOULDN'T BE FEELING

A SENSE OF GUILT.

THE GUILT COMES BECAUSE YOUR

HEART IS STILL TENDER.

IF YOU WANT TO CONFESS WHAT

YOU'VE DONE AND GET IT OUT

OF THE WAY, BY ALL MEANS DO

SO.

I DO NOT THINK YOU SINNED

AWAY YOUR CHANCE OF

SALVATION AND REDEMPTION

BECAUSE YOU STILL ARE TENDER

TO THE LORD.

MOST COMMENTATORS THINK WHAT

JESUS IS TALKING ABOUT, THE

SIN AGAINST THE SPIRIT IS

REJECTING HIS WOOING THAT

BRINGS YOU TO JESUS.

YOU SAY, I'M NOT GOING TO

LISTEN TO YOU.

I'M GOING TO REBEL AGAINST

YOU AND DO MY OWN WAY, AND

THAT'S THE UNFORGIVABLE

SIN.

Terry: THAT'S ALL OF

THE TIME THAT WE HAVE FOR

TODAY, SO THANK YOU.

Pat: OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UP NEXT?

Terry: UP NEXT, IT IS

ALL PART OF A BOOK ON

MARITAL RELATIONS.

IT IS ADVICE FOR MEN ONLY,

AND YOU LADIES ARE GOING TO

LOVE IT, SO STAY TUNED.

Terry: HOW TO GET ALL

OF THE SEX YOU WANT WAS ONE

OF THE TITLES DOUG FIELDS

THOUGHT ABOUT FOR HIS BOOK

FOR MEN ON MARRIAGE.

HE SETTLED ON "SEVEN WAYS TO

BE HER HERO," AND YET DOUG

DOESN'T MINCE WORDS WHEN IT

COMES TO STRAIGHT TALK FOR

MEN ON THE BEST WAYS TO

PLEASE THEIR WIVES.

Reporter: FOR MOST

PEOPLE, FALLING IN LOVE IS

AS NATURAL AS BREATHING.

STAYING IN LOVE, ON THE

OTHER HAND, IS A DIFFERENT

STORY.

DOUG FIELDS, A TRUSTED

PASTOR AND LEADER, SAYS HE

IS STILL IN LOVE WITH HIS

WIFE AFTER 30 YEARS OF

MARRIAGE.

BUT HE SAYS LONG-LASTING

LOVE DOESN'T JUST HAPPEN.

IT REQUIRES HAVING A PLAN

AND LEARNING SOME SKILLS.

IN HIS NEW BOOK, "SEVEN WAYS

TO BE HER HERO," DOUG SHOWS

MEN WHAT THEY CAN DO TO

TRANSFORM THEIR MARRIAGE AND

HAVE A LOVE THAT LASTS.

Terry: I THINK EVERYONE

WANTS A LOVE THAT LASTS IN

THEIR LIFE.

DOUG FIELDS IS WITH US.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GREAT TO BE HERE.

Terry: YOU HAVE SOME

GREAT CHAPTER TITLES, AND

ONE IS "STOP CHASING THE

WIND AND START CHASING YOUR

WIFE."

WHY DO MEAN HAVE TO BE TOLD

THAT?

GUYS GROW UP WITH A BIG

DESIRE TO CHASE, AND WE

CHASE SPORTS AND CAREERS.

AND EVEN WHEN WE'RE DATING,

WE CHASE.

BUT WHEN WE CROSS THE FINISH

LINE, WE CHECK IT OFF AND

MOVE ON.

I THINK FOR A GUY, CHASING

ANYTHING AT THE EXPENSE OF A

HEALTHY MARRIAGE IS THE

WRONG THING TO CHASE.

Terry: MOST MEN SAY

THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE

GOOD HUSBANDS.

THAT WAS AMAZING TO ME.

THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE

THINGS GUYS ARE COACHED ON,

TEAM SUPPORTS, WE'RE COACHED

IN CAREERS, AND WE'RE

COACHED IN THE MARKET

PLACE.

BUT WHEN WE GET MARRIED,

THERE IS NOT A LOT OF

COACHING.

WE CAN BARELY FIGURE

OURSELVES OUT, AND LET ALONE

BEING MARRIED AND WE'RE

ALWAYS SAYING THINGS WRONG

AND DOING THINGS WRONG.

AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES

GUYS GO, I'M JUST NOT REALLY

GOOD AT THIS.

Terry: DO YOU THINK

WOMEN FEEL THE SAME WAY?

I'VE ONLY BEEN MARRIED TO

ONE PERSON FOR 30 YEARS, AND

I THINK MY WIFE THINKS SHE

IS DOING A GOOD JOB.

THIS IS A BOOK WRITTEN TO

GUYS, IN GUYS' LANGUAGE, AND

SAYING, GUYS, YOU CAN DO

THIS.

THAT IS ACTUALLY ONE OF THE

SEVEN THINGS, THAT SMALL

ACTIONS MAKE A BIG DEAL.

I THINK A LOT OF GUYS, THEY

BEGIN WHAT I WOULD CALL A

MARITAL DRIFT.

AND THEY TAKE THEIR EYE OFF

THE BALL AND THEY BEGIN TO

PUT THROUGH PASSIONS AND

HEARTS IN OTHER DIRECTIONS,

AND THEY DRIFT.

MEN NEED TO MAKE DECISIONS

TO RECALIBRATE THE

RELATIONSHIP.

Terry: YOU TALK ABOUT

THE FACT THAT SOMETIMES IN A

DESIRE TO DO THAT, THEY'LL

DO SOME BIG THING WHEN

REALLY IT IS THE LITTLE

THINGS DONE ON A DAILY

BASIS.

ABSOLUTELY.

WE THINK I'VE GOT TO BUY

FLOWERS ALL OF THE TIME OR

DO AN EXPENSIVE VACATION OR

GET HER THAT RING OR DIAMOND

TO MAKE UP FOR BEING KIND OF

A BUFFOON IN OUR MARRIAGE.

MANY THINGS ARE SMALL AND

DOABLE AND BITE SIZED.

IT IS THE LITTLE THINGS THAT

YOU DO EVERY SINGLE DAY THAT

REALLY ADD UP TO THE BIG

THINGS.

TERRY, IF YOU THINK ABOUT

IT, IT IS THE LITTLE

THINGS.

OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME,

BEING OFF-BASE TAKES US INTO

A TOTALLY DIFFERENT

DIRECTION.

SO GUYS ARE GOING, WHAT ARE

THE LITTLE THINGS?

THINGS LIKE DON'T SAY

EVERYTHING YOU THINK.

IF I WOULD HAVE JUST LEARNED

THAT EARLIER -- I LOVE YOU,

DEAR, IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU

SAY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO SAY

EVERYTHING WE THINK.

FOR GUYS JUST TO BE GOOD

LISTENERS.

WE'RE CONNECTED EVERYWHERE

WITH OUR PHONES.

OUR SPOUSES ARE TALKING AND

WE'RE CHECKING TEXTS OR

LOOKING AT SPORTSNET, AND

WE'RE NOT BEING GOOD

LISTENERS.

THAT IS SUCH A SIMPLE DEAL.

FOR MEN, THEY'RE SO

CONNECTED WITH SOCIAL MEDIA

AND THEIR JOB, AND THEY COME

HOME WITH THEIR COMPUTER AND

WITH THEIR PHONE AND ALWAYS

BEING CONNECTED.

I THINK WE'RE SO

OVERCOMMITTED TO THOSE

THINGS, WE'RE UNDERCONNECTED

IN OUR RELATIONSHIPS.

I JUST DID A WEDDING -- MY

SON WAS THE BEST MAN IN A

WEDDING, AND I WAS

EXPLAINING TO THEM

SPIRITUALLY, THEY'RE ONE.

A MAN WILL LEAVE THIS FAMILY

TO BECOME ONE.

THEY'RE UNITED IN ONE.

AND I THINK FOR ME, WHEN I

REALLY UNDERSTOOD THE

PRINCIPLE OF ONENESS -- THE

WAY I TAK EXPLAIN IT TO

GUYS, I TAKE A PINK BALLOON

AND A BLUE BALLOON AND I PUT

THEM INSIDE TOGETHER AND

BLOW THEM UP.

AND I SHOW IF I JUST WANT TO

HURT THE PINK BALLOON, YOU

CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT HURTING

THE OTHER.

YOU CAN SAY, IF I HURT MY

WIFE, I HURT ME.

OR WHEN I ENHANCE MY WIFE,

I'M ENHANCING MYSELF AS

WELL.

WE'RE ALL SELFISH CREATURES,

SO I WANT TO MAKE YOU WIN

BECAUSE WHEN YOU WIN, WE

WIN.

Terry: AND ONE OF THE

THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT IN THE

BOOK, WHEN ALL OF THESE

THINGS COME TOGETHER, THE

SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH

EACH OTHER IS TRULY INTIMATE

AND SPECIAL TO BOTH OF YOU.

THE DIFFICULTY WITH SEX,

STESTEROTYPICALLY, GUYS

ALWAYS WANT MORE.

BUT THE CONNECTION FOR MEN

TYPICALLY HAPPENS AFTER THE

SEXUAL EXPERIENCE, AND FOR

MOST WOMEN, IT HAPPENS

BEFORE.

SO WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH

PRE-MARITAL COUNSELLING 30

YEARS AGO, THE COUNSELLOR

SAID, WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW

IS SEX STARTS IN THE

MORNING, DOUG.

I THOUGHT, GOOD NEWS.

BUT WHAT HE WAS TRYING TO

SAY IS THAT THE CONNECTION

YOU ARE MAKING WITH CATHY

PHYSICALLY HAPPENS WAY

BEFORE IN HOW YOU TREAT HER,

HOW YOU SET UP THE

ENVIRONMENT OF YOUR

RELATIONSHIPS.

SO WE KIND OF HAVE THIS

STRUGGLE AWAY BECAUSE WOMEN,

OFTENTIMES THE CONNECTION

HAPPENS BEFORE.

AND FOR MEN IT HAPPENS

AFTER.

WHAT I'M SAYING, THESE SEVEN

THINGS, YOU CAN DO THEM AND

IT ACTUALLY WILL HELP YOUR

SEXUAL ENVIRONMENT.

Terry: WHAT DO YOU WANT

GUYS TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS

BOOK, "SEVEN WAYS TO BE HER

HERO?"

I WANT GUYS TO SAY, I CAN

DO THAT.

IT IS NOT 21 STEPS TO A

BETTER MARRIAGE.

IT IS SEVEN THINGS.

THEY ARE SIMPLE THINGS.

HOLD THE MIRROR UP AND SAY,

I CAN DO THAT.

I'M TIRED OF CHASING THINGS

THAT DON'T MATTER.

I WANT TO CHASE AFTER THIS

MOST SIGNIFICANT HUMAN

RELATIONSHIP.

Terry: SOMETHING THAT

IS SATISFYING LONG-TERM.

DOUG'S BOOK IS CALLED "SEVEN

WAYS TO BE HER HERO."

AND LADIES, THERE IS A LOT

OF GREAT MARITAL ADVICE IN

HERE.

IT IS SOLD WHEREVER BOOKS

ARE SOLD.

THANK YOU, SO MUCH, DOUG.

Pat: SEVEN WAYS, THANK

YOU, DOUG.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S

POWER MINUTE FROM PROVERBS

1: "WHOEVER LISTENS TO ME

WILL DWELL SAFELY AND WILL

BE SECURE WITHOUT FEAR OF

EVIL."

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

FOR TERRY, WENDY, AND ALL OF

US, THIS IS PAT ROBERTSON

AND WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

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