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700 Club Interactive: Interrupted Living - August 13, 2014

The star of HGTV’s new series “My Big Family Renovation”, Jen Hatmaker, shares how to survive when life gets “interrupted”. Read Transcript


Andrew: SHE MAY HAVE

HER OWN REALITY TV SHOW, BUT

SHE REFUSES TO GET

COMFORTABLE.

IF YOU DECIDE TO THROW

YOUR LOT IN WITH THE POOR,

WITH THOSE WHO STRUGGLE,

WITH THOSE WHO ARE SUFFERING

AT ANY SORT OF INJUSTICE,

ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU DON'T

HAVE TIME FOR THE THINGS

THAT ONCE SEEMED SO

IMPORTANT.

Andrew: CHANGING THE

FACE OF POVERTY WITH JEN

HAVICKER ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

Gordon: ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," WE USE

TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY FOR EACH

OTHER AND EXPLORE TOPICS

THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

Andrew: GOOD MORNING,

AND WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

BY THE TIME I FINISH THIS

SENTENCE, SOMEONE AROUND THE

WORLD WILL DIE OF HUNGER.

AND THIS EPIDEMIC ISN'T JUST

HAPPENING IN SOME

THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY.

IT IS HAPPENING RIGHT HERE.

Terry: IT IS ALMOST

HARD TO IMAGINE.

NEARLY 50 MILLION AMERICANS

LIVE IN POVERTY IN THE RICH

CHET NATIORICHEST NATION IN

THE WORLD.

YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF

WHY.

THAT'S A QUESTION JEN TRIED

TO ANSWER, AND SHE BEGAN TO

WONDER, ARE WE TOO BUSY

DOING CHURCH INSTEAD OF

BEING CHURCH?

Reporter: DO YOU ATTEND

CHURCH ON SUNDAY MORNING,

SING, LIFT YOUR HANDS, GIVE

MONEY, MAYBE VOLUNTEER IN

THE NURSERY OR TEACH SUNDAY

SCHOOL?

MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SAY THEY

DID, BUT IS THAT ENOUGH?

THERE IS MORE TO OUR WALK

WITH GOD THAN PLAYING IT

SAFE.

Terry: WELL, TO TALK TO

US MORE ABOUT THIS TOPIC IS

THE AUTHOR OF "INTERPRETED,

WHEN JESUS WRECKS YOUR

COMFORTABLE CHRISTIANITY."

IT IS SO GOOD TO HAVE YOU

HERE WITH US, JEN.

I'M SO GLAD TO BE HERE.

THANK YOU.

Terry: YOU HAD A

LIFE-CHANGING TURPTION

INTERRUPTION AND IT CHANGED

YOU?

IT DID.

I WASN'T EXPECTING IT.

I WAS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF

BEING AWESOME AT MY OWN

CHRISTIAN LIFE.

SO I DIDN'T EXPECT ANY SORT

OF TRANSFORMATION.

I WAS A CHRISTIAN AUTHOR AT

THE TIME, I WAS TRAVELLING

AND SPEAKING AND I'M MARRIED

TO A PASTOR, I MEAN FULL

IMMERSION INTO CHRISTIAN

CULTURE.

I PROBABLY WOULD HAVE LOOKED

AT ME ON PAPER AND THOUGHT,

I'M NAILING IT.

AND IT WAS SURPRISING TO

FIND IN THE MIDST OF ALL OF

THAT CHRISTIAN WORK, THAT I

WAS REALLY EMOTIONAL,

SPIRITUALLY DRY.

I FELT DISCONNECTED FROM

GOD.

I FELT DISCONNECTED FROM THE

CHURCH, FROM PEOPLE.

I THOUGHT, I HAVE NO IDEA

WHAT TO DO BECAUSE I CAN'T

WORK HARDER.

I CAN'T WORK MORE.

I DON'T HAVE ANYMORE HOURS

IN THE WEEK.

Terry: AND I'M GIVING

THIS MESSAGE, AND WHERE IS

THE REALITY OF IT?

IF IT'S NOT BEARING DOWN

ON MY LIFE, I'M LITERALLY AT

A LOSS.

ONLY BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW

WHAT ELSE TO DO, I PRAYED A

ONE-LINE PRAYER ON SOME

RANDOM SUNDAY DRIVING HOME

FROM CHURCH IN THE CAR.

I SAID, GOD, I NEED YOU TO

RAISE UP IN ME A HOLY

PASSION.

WHAT I MEANT BY THAT IS,

GOD, I HAVE TENSION, AND I

DON'T UNDERSTAND IT, AND I

DON'T WANT TO FEEL IT

ANYMORE.

IF YOU COULD JUST FIX THIS.

Terry: SOLVE THIS.

SOLVE THIS.

AND IT BEGAN THIS

INTERRUPTION IN OUR LIFE

THAT WEEK THAT LITERALLY

SHOOK US DOWN TO OUR CORE,

AND DUMPED OUT EVERY BUCKET

WITH HAD EVER FILLED

SPIRITUALLY AND STARTED

ANEW.

Terry: WHAT WERE SOME

OF THE SIGNS?

I KNOW THERE ARE LOTS OF US

WHO ARE IN THE PLACE WHERE

WE FEEL DRY, BUT HOW DID YOU

KNOW YOU WERE IN THE WRONG

MODE, SO TO SPEAK?

GREAT QUESTION.

IT WAS SOME SURPRISING

TRIGGERS WHERE ALL OF A

SUDDEN I STARTED WONDERING,

MY LIFE FEELS REALLY, REALLY

SAFE, SUPER COMFORTABLE.

IT FEELS REALLY

PREDICTABLE.

AND WHERE IS THE ADVENTURE?

WHERE IS THE KINGDOM?

WHERE IS THE STRUGGLE?

IT JUST FELT TOO SMALL AND

TOO NARROW.

AND, HONESTLY, I JUST HAD

NEVER PEEKED OVER MY OWN

FENCE.

I WAS SO IMMERSED IN MY OWN

LITTLE CHRISTIAN NICHE, THAT

I WAS COMPLETELY

DISCONNECTED.

AND I MEAN COMPLETELY FROM

ANYTHING THAT LOOKED LIKE

SUFFERING OR STRUGGLE,

POVERTY, CRISIS, INJUSTICE.

I DIDN'T HAVE TIME FOR

THAT.

I SPENT ALL OF MY TIME

SERVING SAFE PEOPLE AND

BLESSING BLESSED PEOPLE.

SO IF THOSE BLESSED, SAVED

PEOPLE CANNOT GIVE

THEMSELVES TO MY CHURCH

CAMPUS, I'M SORRY, I DON'T

KNOW YOU EXIST.

Andrew: YOU PRAYED THIS

PRAYER, BUT YOUR HUSBAND HAD

TO COME ALONG FOR THE RIDE.

WHAT CHANGED HIM?

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

HE WROTE THIS WITH ME.

IT SORT OF STARTED IN ME,

AND HE KIND OF SAT OFF TO

THE SIDE AND HE THOUGHT,

WHAT'S HAPPENING?

I THINK SHE IS ABOUT TO RUIN

OUR LIVES?

OUR LIVES WERE LOVELY, SUPER

LOVELY.

AND FINALLY WE BEGAN TO PRAY

TOGETHER, AND JUST LIKE

THAT, WE WERE ON THE SAME

PAGE SPIRITUALLY.

AND ULTIMATELY, IT ENDED UP

LOOKING LIKE OUR FAMILY

LEAVING WHERE WE WERE AND WE

STARTED A NEW CHURCH.

AND WE HAD NO AMBITIONS TO

BE CHURCH PLANNERS.

I REMEMBER ASKING BRANDON,

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE

CAN DO?

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER

SKILLS.

BUT WE ULTIMATELY STARTED A

CHURCH CALLED THE LOST

CHURCH IN OUR CITY.

AND WE ARE SO HUNGRY TO SEE

JUSTICE COME IN OUR CITY, IN

OUR COMMUNITY, AND IN OUR

WORLD.

Andrew: WHAT OPENED

YOUR EYES TO THIS POVERTY

SITUATION?

IT WAS A BIT OF A SLOW

RUNWAY, TO BE HONEST WITH

YOU.

WE STARTED LISTENING TO NEW

THINKERS, INTO LEADERS,

DIFFERENT KINDS OF PASTORS.

WE THOUGHT, IF WE'RE NOT OUT

THERE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING

ON IN THE WORLD, WHO IS?

SO WE REALLY BEGAN TO LISTEN

AND ASK NEW QUESTIONS.

AND FINALLY IT WAS A MATTER

OF GOD SAYING, YOU KNOW

WHAT, SWEET LITTLE LAMB,

YOU'VE GOT TO JUST GET OUT

THERE IN GO.

AND IT STARTED WITH THE

HOMELESS COMMUNITY, WHICH WE

KNEW NOTHING ABOUT.

Terry: WHAT WAS YOUR

FIRST FORAY INTO THAT?

IT WAS TERRIBLE.

WE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE

AWKWARD, MORE CLUNKY, BUT WE

JUST BROUGHT OUR KIDS WITH

US BECAUSE THEY LIVE WITH

US, SO WE THOUGHT, MAYBE YOU

SHOULD COME.

AND WE WENT DOWNTOWN, AND

WE'VE GOT A STREET CORNER IN

AUSTIN, WHERE WE LIVE.

OUR HOMELESS COMMUNITY IS

CONCENTRATED.

AND WE CAME DOWN WITH NOTES

AND CARDS AND BURGERS, AND

WE DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING

ABOUT THE CYCLES OF POVERTY,

BUT WE STARTED SOMEWHERE.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE BEGAN.

AND WE JUST FOUND LEADERS

AND ACTIVISTS IN OUR CITY

WHO ARE SMART AND MOBILIZED

AND ALREADY ON THE GROUND,

AND WE GLOMMED ON TO THEM

AND SAID, CAN YOU TEACH US

EVERYTHING YOU KNOW.

Andrew: BECAUSE YOU

DON'T HAVE TIMES IN THIS

SITUATION TO THINK ABOUT

THINGS SPIRITUALLY DRY?

OH, NO.

THAT'S A LUXURY OF THE

PRIVILEGED.

IF YOU DECIDE TO THROW YOUR

LOT IN WITH THE POOR, WITH

THOSE WHO STRUGGLE AND THOSE

WHO ARE SUFFERING AT ANY

SORT OF INJUSTICE, ALL OF A

SUDDEN YOU DON'T HAVE TIME

FOR THE THINGS THAT ONCE

SEEMED SUPER, SUPER

IMPORTANT.

YOU'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

IF THAT SOUNDS LIKE BAD

NEWS -- IF SOMEBODY IS

LISTENING GOING, I DON'T

WANT TO DO THIS.

THAT SOUNDS LIKE A TERRIBLE

STORY.

BUT IT IS AMAZING.

WE FOUND LIFE AGAIN.

I MOVED INTO THIS ARENA

EMPTY, AND I CAME OUT OF IT

WHOLE.

AND FOUND THAT GOD IS ACTIVE

AND PEOPLE ARE ON THE

GROUND.

Terry: YOU SEE HIM WORK

RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR

FACE.

RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR

FACE.

IT IS NO LONGER ENCAPSULATED

IN A FANCY CEREMONY WHERE

EVERYTHING STARTS WITH AN

"M."

AND YOU SEE REDEMPTION

RISING UP IN FRONT OF YOU.

YOU SEE HIM INTERVENE IN

MIRACULOUS WAYS.

I DIDN'T NEED GOD FOR

MIRACLES IN MY SAFE,

COMFORTABLE CHRISTIAN LIFE.

I WAS DOING FINE WITHOUT

HIM.

BUT YOU GET OUT TO THE EDGES

OF STRUGGLE AND CONFLICT AND

PERSECUTION, AND YOU NEED

HIM IN A DESPERATE NEW WAY.

AND SO WE FOUND GOD ON THE

MARGINS, WHERE WE HAD LOST

HIM AT THE BULL'S EYE.

Andrew: AND THE LORD

ALSO TAUGHT YOU HOW TO

CONQUER YOUR FEARS GOING

INTO THIS?

I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHAT

TO EXPECT.

Terry: IT IS SCARY

BECAUSE YOU THINK OF THE

FACT HOW MUCH OF MY LIFE IS

THIS GOING TO COST ME?

LET'S BE HONEST, THAT'S

EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT.

AND I WENT INTO IT SO

IGNORANT.

I THOUGHT, AM I GOING TO

HURT MORE THAN I HELP?

AND THAT'S A REAL

CONVERSATION THAT WE SHOULD

BE HAVING.

AND WE'VE LEARN SO MUCH IN

THE LAST FIVE YEARS ABOUT

EMPOWERMENT, AND NOT JUST

ENABLING, AND GOD HAS REALLY

JUST SHOWN US SO MANY

THINGS.

YEAH, WE SORT OF MOVED

SCARED.

I TOLD GOD, I WOULD LIKE

SOME MORE ANSWERS, PLEASE,

BEFORE WE START THIS TRAIN.

I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE

OF A BUSINESS PLAN.

AND HE'S LIKE, OUT YOU GO.

AND SO WE LEARNED ON THE

RUN.

Terry: WELL, THAT'S THE

BEST WAY, PROBABLY, DON'T

YOU THINK?

JUMP IN THE POOL AND SWIM?

I THINK IT IS THE BEST

WAY.

THERE ARE ONLY SO MANY

THINGS YOU CAN MANUFACTURE

SITTING IN A PEW LEARNING

ABOUT SOMETHING.

Terry: PLUS WHEN WE

PLAN, WE PLAN TO SOLVE IT.

WHEN WE JUMP INTO THE DEEP

END, GOD SHOWS UP.

THERE IS SO MUCH IN YOUR

BOOK.

WE HAVE TOUCHED ON JUST THE

SURFACE OF IT.

YOU CAN LEARN MORE, AND THE

BOOK IS CALLED

"INTERPRETED," AND YOU CAN

FIND IT WHEREVER BOOKS ARE

SOLD, AND IT WILL WOO YOU

INTO THE DEEP END OF THE

POOL.

Andrew: AND CAN I ASK

YOU ABOUT YOUR NEW SHOW?

IT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE.

WE GOT AN E-MAIL FROM THE

EXECUTIVE AND SAID WE

ADOPTED TWO KIDS FROM

ETHIOPIA AND THE FIVE KIDS.

WE THINK WE CAN TRANSLATE

YOUR FAMILY'S ENERGY TO AN

HGTV SHOW.

AND FAST FORWARD, AND WE

THOUGHT THIS IS AN AMAZING

OPPORTUNITY.

WHO GETS TO DO THIS.

SO WE FILMED ALL LAST YEAR,P

, AND THE SHOW AIRED ON

THURSDAY.

Terry: I SAW THAT IT

WAS WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU.

Terry: AND WILL BE EVEN

BETTER YET.

AND YOUR RENOVATING YOUR

100-PLUS-YEAR-OLD HOUSE FROM

TOP TO BOTTOM, YOU BRAVE

PEOPLE.

OR CRAZY PEOPLE.

LET'S GET THE ADJECTIVE

RIGHT.

WE RENOVATED A 105-YEAR-OLD

FARM HOUSE, AND WE MOVED

THREE MINUTES AWAY FROM THE

COMMUNITY WE LIVED IN.

AND WE JUST HAD A BALL.

IT WAS SUCH A GOOD TIME.

Andrew: BE SURE TO

WATCH JEN AND HER FAMILY AND

"MY BIG FAMILY RENOVATION,"

ON HGTV ON THURSDAY.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

Terry: COMING UP, WE'RE

GOING TO ANSWER YOUR

QUESTIONS, PLUS THE STORY OF

A BIG-LEAGUE PITCHER WHO

RISKED HIS CAREER AND A

MULTI-MILLION CONTRACT TO

CLIMB THE HIGHEST MOUNTAIN

IN AFRICA.

YOU'LL SEE WHY.

THAT'S NEXT.

IN 2012, R.A. DICKIE WENT

TO A MAJOR PITCHER.

HIS STORY READS LIKE A HOLLY

HOLLYWOOD SCRIPT.

SO IT IS NO SURPRISE THEY'RE

GOING STO MAK TO MAKE A

MOVIE ABOUT HIS LIFE.

WE CAUGHT UP WITH HIM AFTER

HE JUST CLIMBED THE HIGHEST

MOUNTAIN IN AFRICA.

I COULD FEEL ITS PRESENCE

LIKE A GIANT BEAST LURKING

IN THE SHADOWS.

ONLY TIME WILL TELL IF THIS

BEAST WILL BE FRIEND OR

FOE.

Reporter: STRETCHING

NEARLY $20,000 FEET INTO THE

SKY, KILIMANJARO WAS THE

HIGHEST MOUNTAIN IN AFRICA.

THIS PAST JANUARY, R.A.

DICKIE STOOD AT THE BASE AND

VOWED TO CONQUER THE BEAST.

FOR ME IT WAS TOUGH.

WE TOOK A SEVEN-DAY ROUTE

THAT WOULD HELP US CLIMATE

TIECLIMATE CLIMATEIZE TO

THE CONDITIONS.

Reporter: HE WASN'T

CLIMBING KIL KILIMANJARO TO

CHALLENGE HIMSELF, BUT TO

MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

HE WANTED TO END HUMAN

TRAFFICKING.

I THOUGH FELT LIKE GOD

WAS REALLY CALLING ME TO

STEP OUT AND TRY TO BRING

AWARENESS TO SOMETHING THAT

IS SOMETIMES A WHITE

ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

Reporter: HE BLOGGED

ABOUT THE CLIMB ON THE "NEW

YORK TIMES" WEBSITE.

BUT THERE WAS ONE DETAIL HE

LEFT OUT OF HIS ARTICLES,

THE ONE SECRET HE KEPT

HIDDEN FROM EVERYONE FOR

MORE THAN 20 YEARS.

WELL, I WAS AN 8-YEAR-OLD

BOY, AND I WAS VICTIMIZED BY

A BABY-SITTER A FEW TIMES

OVER THE COURSE OF A

SUMMER.

AND THEN AGAIN LATER IN THE

SUMMER, AS THE SUMMER TURNED

TO FALL.

BY A 17-YEAR-OLD BOY.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TAKEN

PART IN SOMETHING SO WICKED

THAT AT SOME LEVEL IT HAS TO

BE PARTLY YOUR FAULT.

AND I CERTAINLY FELT LIKE I

WAS LESS THAN HUMAN.

AND I DIDN'T WANT TO TELL

ANYBODY ABOUT IT BECAUSE I

FELT LIKE THEY WOULD JUST

THROW THEIR ARMS UP AND RUN

THE OTHER WAY.

THAT WAS SOMETHING I WAS

UNWILLING TO TAKE.

Reporter: AS A KID,

R.A. STARRED ON THE

FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, AND

BASEBALL GAMES.

HE EVEN WON A POETRY

COMPETITION AT HIS SCHOOL.

BUT IN HIS BOOK, HE WRITES

THESE WEREN'T JUST

ACTIVITIES.

THEY WERE AN ESCAPE.

I WAS ALWAYS LOOKING FOR

THINGS I COULD CONTROL.

AND I FELT LIKE MY LIFE HAD

A LOT IN IT I COULD NOT

CONTROL.

SO I DEVELOPED MECHANISMS

FOR DEALING WITH PAIN AND

TRYING TO ESCAPE IT.

IT DID A LOT OF DAMAGE OVER

THE COURSE OF MY LIFE.

SPORTS OFFERED ME A

SANCTUARY IN THAT REGARD.

IT WAS SOMETHING THAT IF I

PUT IN THE TIME, I COULD BE

REALLY GOOD AT.

AND I ALWAYS FOUND REFUGE

THERE.

Reporter: HIS PARENTS

HAD DIVORCED WHEN HE WAS

JUST FIVE YEARS OLD.

HIS MOTHER WAS AN ALCOHOLIC,

SO WHEN HE WAS A TEENAGER HE

MOVED IN WITH HIS FATHER.

BUT THAT DIDN'T MAKE THINGS

BETTER.

SOME NIGHTS HE STAYED OVER

AT A FRIEND'S HOUSE.

OTHERS, HE BROKE INTO VACANT

HOMES IN HIS NEIGHBORHOOD

AND SLEPT THERE.

I WOULD PARK AROUND THE

CORNER AND I WOULD HIDE

OUT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HAD IT

DOWN.

BUT AT LEAST THAT WAS A

LONELINESS OF MY CHOOSING.

AGAIN, I HAD CONTROL.

THERE WAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT

OF PEACE I FELT IN THAT.

Reporter: AS HE GOT

OLDER, R.A. CONTINUED TO

EXCEL IN SPORTS.

HE WENT TO THE UNIVERSITY OF

TENNESSEE AND BECAME AN

ACADEMIC ALL AMERICAN.

IN 1996, HE WON A BRONZE

MEDAL DURING THE OLYMPIC

GAMES AND WAS DRAFTED BY THE

TEXAS RANGERS.

THE RANGERS OFFERED HIM AN

$800,000 CONTRACT UNTIL THEY

NOTICED HIS ARM WAS HANGING

A LITTLE FUNNY.

DOUG MELVIN WAS THE

GENERAL MANAGER OF THE TEXAS

RANGERS AT THE TIME, AND HE

LOOKED ACROSS THE TABLE AND

SAID, WE WANT YOU TO GET A

SECOND OPINION.

Reporter: AFTER RUNNING

TESTS, DOCTORS NOTICED HE

WAS MISSING THE ULNAR

LATERAL LIGAMENT AND SAID HE

SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TURN A

DOORKNOB WITHOUT PAIN, LET

ALONE A BASEBALL.

I THOUGHT, THIS COULD

MEAN I MAY NEVER GET A

CHANCE TO PLAY PROFESSIONAL

BASEBALL.

IT WAS HARD TO LAY THAT

DOWN.

WHEN I SAT DOWN ACROSS THE

DESK FROM DOUG, AND HE SAID,

I'M SORRY, WE'RE TAKING THAT

AWAY, I STOOD UP AND SHOOK

HIS HAND AND I WALKED OUT.

Reporter: THE RANGERS

SLASHED THEIR OFFER BY OVER

90%.

DICKIE SIGNED ANYWAY.

AND WHILE HE NEVER

EXPERIENCED ARM PROBLEMS,

HIS CAREER WAS

DISAPPOINTING.

HE HAD TO MAKE A MAJOR

CHANGE, SO HER PITCHING

COACH SUGGESTED HE ADOPT THE

KNUCKLE BALL.

NOW, THE KNUCKLE BALL IS ONE

OF THE HARDEST PITCHES TO

HIT, BUT IT IS ALSO ONE OF

THE HARDEST PITCHES TO

THROW.

IN FACT, ONLY A FEW MAJOR

LEAGUERS HAVE EVER DONE IT

EFFECTIVELY.

ON APRIL 6, 2006, R.A.

DICKIE WASN'T ONE OF THEM.

Announcer: A SWING AND

A LOB TO LEFT FIELD.

Reporter: R.A. GAVE UP

A MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD SIX

HOMERUNS IN ONE GAME.

HE WAS PROMPTLY SENT TO THE

MINORS.

PEOPLE PRETEND THAT THEY

DON'T HEAR THE CROWD.

BUT WHEN YOU'RE WALKING OFF

YOU HEAR EVERY BOO.

AND YOU FEEL LIKE IT IS ALL

FOR NOTHING.

Reporter: WITH HIS

CAREER IN SHAMBLES, AND HIS

LIFE STILL HAUNTED BY THE

ABUSE, R.A. WENT TO A

COUNSELLOR AND DECIDED TO

REVEAL EVERYTHING.

I WAS REALLY DEALING WITH

THINGS FROM SUICIDAL

THOUGHTS TO, YOU KNOW, ANY

KIND OF ESCAPE I COULD THINK

OF THAT CROSSED MY MIND.

GOD USED THAT MAN TO REALLY

SAVE MY LIFE.

Reporter: AFTER TRYING

TO DEAL WITH HIS PAIN

HIMSELF, R.A. ASKED GOOD FOR

HELP.

AND HE SAYS GOD ANSWERED.

I FELT HIM SAY TO ME,

YOU'VE BEEN RUNNING AND

HIDING FOR LONG ENOUGH NOW.

I'VE GOT SOMETHING ELSE FOR

YOU.

AND SO I TOOK A STEP OF

FAITH.

AND ONCE I TOOK THE STEP TO

SAY I WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED

AND THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED,

IT WAS LIKE AN ENORMOUS -- I

FELT LIKE AN ATLAS AND

SOMEBODY HAD JUST TAKEN THE

WORLD OFF MY SHOULDERS.

Reporter: WITH A

RENEWED FOCUS IN LIFE, R.A.

CONTINUED TO PLAY BASEBALL

AND FINALLY TAMED THE

KNUCKLE BALL.

IN 2010 AT THE AGE OF 35, HE

JOINED THE NEW YORK METS AND

POSTED ONE OF THE BEST

E.R.A.s IN THE LEAGUE.

I HAD SPENT A LIFETIME

TRYING TO CONTROL THINGS,

PEOPLE, SPORTS, AND IT

WASN'T WORKING.

IT WAS CRUMBLING DOWN AROUND

ME.

AND GOD BROUGHT ME TO THE

PLACE WHERE HE SAID, ENOUGH,

GIVE IT UP, SURRENDER IT.

AND THE MORE I TRUSTED GOD,

THE BIR BIGGER HE GOT.

Reporter: AS R.A.

DICKIE ASCENDED KILIMANJARO,

HE DEALT WITH HALLUCINATIONS

AND SHORTNESS OF BREATH, BUT

HE WON'T STOP.

AS A FELLOW VICTIM OF SEXUAL

ABUSE, HE KNEW HE HAD TO

HELP.

I THOUGHT ABOUT, YOU

KNOW, AS DARK AND AS COLD AS

I MIGHT BE, HOW DARK AND

COLD ARE THEY IN THOSE

RED-LIGHT DISTRICTS OF

MUMBAI?

THAT PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE

AND GAVE ME MORE STRENGTH TO

KEEP PUTTING ONE FOOT IN

FRONT OF THE OTHER.

Reporter: DOWN BELOW

AND MILES AWAY, THE NEW YORK

METS WERE GETTING READY FOR

ANOTHER SEASON.

BACK AT HOME, HIS LIFE WAS

CARING FOR THE NEWEST

ADDITION TO THEIR FAMILY,

THEIR FOURTH CHILD.

ACROSS THE WORLD, BOMBAY

TEAM CHALLENGE RAISED MORE

THAN $400,000 FOR THE

CAUSE.

AND ON A CHILLY MORNING R.A.

DICKIE REACHED THE TOP OF

THE MOUNTAIN AND LOOKED

DOWN.

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF

THINGS THAT HAVEN'T GONE TO

SCRIPT FOR ME, THAT I WOULD

HAVE WRITTEN OUT A CERTAIN

WAY.

BUT GOD HAS HAD SOMETHING

BETTER, AND ONLY IN

REFLECTION CAN YOU REALLY

SEE IT, YOU KNOW?

BECAUSE HE HAS GIVEN ME NOT

JUST A SECOND CHANCE, BUT A

THIRD CHANCE AND A FOURTH

CHANCE AND A FIFTH CHANCE,

TO INFINITY, AND WHAT A

SAVIOR.

THAT'S WHO HE IS TO ME, HE'S

A SAVIOR.

AND IT'S JUST SUCH A SWEET

RELATIONSHIP.

Andrew: WE'RE SEEING

TODAY, TERRY, PEOPLE JUST

REFUSING TO LIVE IN THEIR

OWN COMFORT AND DESIRING TO

HELP SOMEONE ELSE.

IN R.A.'S CASE, PART OF HIS

PROCESS OF HEALING HIS OWN

PAIN IS TO FOCUS ON OTHERS,

WHICH IS A GREAT WAY OUT.

Terry: YOU CAN PUSH

THINGS TO THE BACKGROUND AND

STAY BUSY, EVEN JEN WAS

TALKING ABOUT THAT.

BUT IT IS WHEN YOU BRING IT

HONESTLY TO THE FOREFRONT,

THIS IS WHAT I'M FEELING,

THIS IS WHAT I'M DEALING

WITH, OR THINKING THAT GOD

CAN DO A NEW THING, AND

JESUS CAME TO SET THE

CAPTIVE FREE.

WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE

A DIFFERENCE.

Andrew: WE'VE GOT SOME

QUESTIONS FROM OUR VIEWERS.

JUSTIN WRITES IN "OUR

CHILDREN BEGAN TO NOTICE

SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS LIVING

IN POVERTY.

AND THEY WANT TO DO

SOMETHING TO HELP THEM.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM,

BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOUNG

CHILDREN CAN DO TO HELP.

SHOULD I HAVE THEM WAIT

UNTIL THEY'RE OLDER?"

Andrew: TERRY, YOU MAY

AGREE THAT WE, AS PARENTS,

IF WE DECIDE TO WAIT, IT'S A

MESSAGE SAYING THOSE PEOPLE

CAN WAIT.

AND KIDS PROCESS THAT AND

WILL START TO THINK THAT'S

HOW THEY SHOULD START TO

BEHAVE.

Terry: I LIKED WHAT JEN

SAID.

WHEN SHE FELT LIKE GOD WAS

TELLING HER TO DO SOMETHING,

SHE TOOK HER FAMILY WITH

HER.

HOW DO I CHILDREN BEST

LEARN?

YOU'VE GOT YOUNG KIDS, AND

THEY WATC LEARN BY WATCHING

THEIR PARENTS, SO TAKE YOUR

KIDS.

Andrew: AND EVEN ASK

THEM WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO

DO.

I'M SURE THEY HAVE RESOURCES

AT THEIR DISPOSAL, MAYBE

SOME CLOTHES THEY DON'T WANT

ANYMORE OR FOOD AROUND THE

HOUSE.

PUT IT IN THEIR HANDS AND

YOU WILL PROBABLY BE

THRILLED.

SANDRA WRITES IN, "IF I

PRAY EVERY DAY FOR THE POOR

AND GIVE MONEY TO A LOCAL

COMMUNITY OUTREACH, DOES

THAT COUNT AS HELPING AND

SERVING OTHERS?

IS THERE MORE I SHOULD DO?"

TERRY?

Terry: I THINK YOU

REALLY HAVE TO SEEK THE LORD

IN THAT.

I KNOW THAT GIVING IS

SIGNIFICANT.

THE SCRIPTURE SAYS SOME GO

AND SOME SEND.

THE ONES WHO ARE CALLED TO

GO CAN'T GO UNLESS THE ONES

SENDING MAKE PROVISION FOR

THAT.

I'M ALSO A STRONG BELIEVER,

THOUGH, WHEN YOU ACTUALLY

TOUCH THE HAND AND SOMEONE

IN NEED, LOOK INTO THE EYES

OF SOMEONE WHO IS HURTING,

THAT'S WHEN WHAT HAPPENED TO

JEN HAPPENS TO YOU.

YOU'RE MOVED.

YOUR LIFE CHANGES.

YOU SAY, I'M IN.

I'M HERE FOR WHATEVER I CAN

DO.

THAT'S WHEN JESUS BEGINS TO

USE YOU.

Andrew: AND JUST THE

FACT THAT SANDRA IS ASKING

THE QUESTION MAY REVEAL THE

HOLY SPIRIT IS TRYING TO

START SOMETHING IN HER

LIFE.

STILL AHEAD, A YOUNG GIRL

WHO WAS SO WEAK AND HUNGRY,

SHE COULD BARELY STAND.

SOMETIMES DURING THE DAY,

I GO TO SLEEP AND FALL

DOWN.

Andrew: HEAR HOW HER

HEALTH WAS RESTORED WHEN WE

COME BACK.

EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM

TODAY WE TALKED ABOUT

POVERTY HERE IN THE UNITED

STATES, BUT IT IS NOT ONLY

AN ISSUE HERE.

IN KIRGASTAN, MANY SUFFERING

FROM POVERTY AND

MALNUTRITION.

Reporter: 12-YEAR-OLD

MIRA LIVES IN KIRKISTAN WITH

HER MOTHER AND SISTERS.

EVERYONE SUFFERS FROM

CHRONIC ANEMIA DUE TO LACK

OF NUTRITION.

I KNOW WE NEED TO EAT

BETTER, BUT WE CANNOT AFFORD

IT.

SOMETIMES DURING THE DAY, I

GO TO SLEEP AND FALL DOWN.

MY MOM SAYS IT IS CALLED

FAINTING.

SHE SAYS BECAUSE WE HAVE SO

LITTLE FOOD SHE DOES WELL AT

SCHOOL, BUT SOMETIMES SHE

MISSES THINGS.

Reporter: HER HUSBAND

RECENTLY ABANDONED THE

FAMILY, LEAVING HER ALONE TO

RAISE THEIR THREE CHILDREN.

THE YOUNGEST ONE IS AN

INFANT.

SHE GROWS VEGETABLES IN HER

GARDEN AND BAKES FLAT BREAD

TO FEED HER DAUGHTERS.

THAT'S ALL OF THE FOOD THEY

HAVE.

I WORK HARD ALL THE TIME,

AND I DON'T EAT ENOUGH

MYSELF.

I KNOW MY BABY WILL SOON

NEED MORE THAN MOTHER'S

MILK, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW

I'M GOING TO FEED HER.

I SEE MY MOTHER

STRUGGLING, AND THAT MAKES

ME SAD.

I SEE HER CRYING AND PRAYING

A LOT.

Reporter: EVEN THOUGH

KIRKISTAN IS A MUSLIM

COUNTRY, SHE BECAME A

CHRISTIAN EIGHT YEARS AGO.

I PRAY ALL OF THE TIME,

LORD ALMIGHTY, YOU CAN DO

EVERYTHING.

HELP ME, PLEASE.

I PRAY, TOO.

I ASK GOD TO HELP.

Reporter: WHEN WE HEARD

ABOUT THE FAMILY AND THEIR

SIMPLE NEEDS, WE KNEW WE

COULD HELP.

CBN GAVE THEM A COW AND

CHICKENS SO THAT THEY CAN

HAVE A WELL-BALANCED DIET.

IT IS TRULY A MIRACLE FOR

OUR FAMILY.

IN ALL OF MY LIFE, I'VE

NEVER SEEN SUCH GENEROSITY.

Reporter: NOW THEY HAVE

MILK, CHEESE, AND EGGS EVERY

DAY THANKS TO CBN.

IN FACT, THEY HAVE SO MUCH,

SHE IS SELLING THE EXTRA

MILK AND EGGS TO HER

NEIGHBORS.

MY CHILDREN ARE ALWAYS

FULL NOW, AND I'M EARNING

MONEY FOR US.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

HELPING US.

I DON'T FAINT ANYMORE.

I'M HAPPY AND HEALTHY, AND I

DON'T NEED ANYTHING AT

SCHOOL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

Terry: NOT A SPARROW

FALLS FROM THE TREE THAT GOD

DOESN'T SEE.

HE KNOWS THE NUMBER OF HAIRS

ON OUR HEAD.

AND HIS EAR IS INCLINED

ALWAYS TO THE WIDOWED AND

THE ORPHANED.

IF YOU'RE A "700 CLUB"

MEMBER, YOU MADE THAT

POSSIBLE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS WE

CAN HELP, BY LINKING ARMS

TOGETHER AND GIVING WHEN YOU

HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO

THAT.

YOU CAN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEMS

OF EVERY PERSON WHO IS IN

POVERTY IN THE WORLD.

BUT YOU CAN SOLVE THE ONE

WHO IS PUT IN YOUR PATH BY

THE LORD.

AND THAT'S ALL HE IS ASKING

US.

WHAT YOU SEE, WHAT I SHOW

YOU, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

WE WANT TO OFFER THE

INVITATION TO DO SOMETHING

ABOUT THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE

WHO ARE IN POVERTY

WORLDWIDE.

JOIN "700 CLUB."

IT IS SO SIMPLE.

65 CENTS A DAY, $20 A MONTH

MAKES YOU A MEMBER.

YOU CAN CALL THAT TOLL-FREE

NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN,

1-888-777-1999.

JUST SAY, I WANT TO JOIN

"THE 700 CLUB."

I WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE,

AND WE WELCOME YOU TO THE

FAMILY OF MINISTRIES HERE.

ANDREW?

Andrew: THANK YOU,

TERRY.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM JOHN 3, 17-18:

"IF SOMEONE HAS ENOUGH MONEY

TO LIVE WELL, BUT SEES A

BROTHER AND SISTER IN NEED,

HOW CAN GOD'S COMPASSION BE

IN THAT PERSON.

LET'S SHOW THE TRUTH BY OUR

ACTIONS."

AND WE HAVE SEEN EXAMPLES

TODAY OF PEOPLE WHO ARE

REFUSING TO LIVE IN THEIR

COMFORT ZONE AND WHO SAY, I

WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO

THAT.

FOR TERRY AND JESSICA, I'M

ANDREW KNOX, AND WE'LL SEE

YOU NEXT TIME ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE."

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