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The 700 Club - October 21, 2014

Dr. Dilip Joseph was kidnapped by the Taliban while working to help the people of Afghanistan. Hear his story, and why he wants to return. Also, Al Fadi came to America to convert people to Islam, but was challenged by his own faith. Read Transcript


HE'S HELPED HIS LISTENERS

GET FREE, NOW DAVE RAMSEY

HELPS THEM TAKE THE NEXT

STEP ON THE FINANCIAL

JOURNEY.

AND THEN, MEET A DOCTOR WHO

WAS KIDNAPPED BY THE

TALIBAN, AND HEAR THE HEROIN

STORY OF HIS RESCUE.

PLUS...A MUSLIM WHO WAS

HEADED TO THE UNITED STATES

BENT ON JIHAD.

I'M HERE TO FIGHT AND DIE

FOR THE GOD THAT I WORSHIP.

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, LADIES AND

GENTLEMEN, TO THIS EDITION

OF "THE 700 CLUB."

TWO WEEKS FROM TODAY THERE

IS GOING TO BE AN ELECTION

FOR THE UNITED STATES

CONGRESS.

ONE-THIRD OF THE SENATE, ALL

OF THE HOUSE OF

REPRESENTATIVES.

A VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION.

AND IT'S FOCUSING IN ON

CONTROL OF THE UNITED STATES

SENATE.

BECAUSE THE LEADER IS THE

MOST -- ONE OF THE MOST

POWERFUL MEN IN THE

COUNTRY.

EVEN THOUGH MILLIONS OF

PEOPLE HAVE NEVER HEARD OF

HIM, HE IS THE SENATE

MAJORITY LEADER, HARRY REID,

OF NEVADA.

AND HE IS ONE OF THE

SHREWDEST POLITICIANS ON

CAPITOL HILL.

HE SINGLE HANDEDLY BROUGHT

THE SENATE TO A STAND STILL,

AND HIS RADICAL AGENDA HAS

HURT THE NATION, PEOPLE

SAY.

Terry: SENATOR REID

ISN'T UP FOR ELECTION, BUT

HE HAS BECOME A MAJOR

POLITICAL ISSUE IN MANY

RACES.

PAUL STRAND BRINGS US THE

STORY FROM WASHINGTON.

Reporter: YOU THINK

THOSE IN THE NATION'S

HIGHEST LEGISLATIVE BODY

WOULD WANT TO BE THERE SO

THEY CAN LEGISLATE.

BUT LITTLE OF THAT IS GOING

ON IN THE SENATE THESE

DAYS.

SOME PEE HERE IN WASHINGTON

HAVE TALKED OF A "DO-NOTHING

CONGRESS," AND MUCH OF THAT

COULD BE SAID ABOUT SENATE.

SOME SAY SENATOR REID'S NEAR

TOTAL CLAMP-DOWN ON

AMENDMENTS IS HISTORIC.

HE HAS BLOCKED AMENDMENTS

MORE THAN ALL OTHER LEADERS

IN OUR HISTORY TIMES TWO.

Reporter: WHY WOULD A

MAN WHO CONTROLS LEGISLATION

WANT TO STOP THE

LEGISLATING.

ONE REASON IS POLITICS.

HE HAS USED AND ABUSED

THAT USED HIS THIS TO BLOCK

HIS OPPONENTS.

Reporter: HART SAYS

THERE IS

HARDLY

A CRUCIAL

ISSUE REID HASN'T HAD THE

SENATE DODGE.

ISSUES LIKE THE KEYSTONE

X.L. PIPELINE, TAX REFORM,

THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF

GOVERNMENT, OBAMACARE.

ON ISSUE AFTER ISSUE, HIS

PRIMARY GOAL IS TO PROTECT

HIS OWN PARTY MEMBERS.

Reporter: ANDREW LANGER

SAYS SOMETIMES NOT HOLDING

VOTES COULD BE A GOOD THING,

BECAUSE IT COULD STOP MORE

GOVERNMENT SPENDING, FOR

INSTANCE.

BUT HE POINTS OUT THAT REID

IS NOT ONLY STOPPING VOTES,

BUT HE IS ALLOWING VOTES ON

CRITICAL ISSUES.

REPUBLICANS HAVE PASSED

BILL AFTER BILL AFTER BILL

THAT HAVE LANGUISHED BECAUSE

HARRY REID REFUSES TO BRING

THEM TO THE FLOOR, WHILE HE

BRINGS IDIOTIC BILLS, LIKE

THE BILL TO GO AFTER FREE

SPEECH OF GROUPS.

Reporter: THE

MAINSTREAM MEDIA WILL HAVE

YOU BELIEVE THAT THE

REPUBLICANS RULING THE U.S.

HOUSE ARE JUST AS BAD AS

SPONSORING LEGISLATION, BUT

HART SAYS THE NUMBERS PROVE

OTHERWISE.

SINCE JULY OF 2014, THERE

HAVE BEEN 14 VOTES ON

REPUBLICAN AMENDMENTS.

IN THE HOUSE, YOU HAVE A

REPUBLICAN SPEAKER WHO IS

ALLOWED ALMOST 200 VOTES ON

DEMOCRATIC ISSUES.

Reporter: THE SENATE

WAS SET UP TO BE THE

DELIBERATIVE BODY.

THE SENATE HAS BEEN,

DEPENDING ON WHICH SIDE OF

THE FENCE YOU SIT ON, A

PLACE WHERE GOOD BILLS GO TO

DIE.

Reporter: BUT REID'S

THROTTLING OF VOTES AND

AMENDMENTS, STEALS THE POWER

AWAY FROM THE REST OF THE

SENATORS.

THERE AREN'T ANY

RED-STATE DEMOCRATS.

THERE ARE ONLY REID-STATE

DEMOCRATS.

HE IS THE THIRD SENATOR FROM

EVERY STATE BECAUSE HE TRULY

DOES HAVE THE POWER TO

DECIDE WHAT AMENDMENTS ARE

OFFERED.

Reporter: AND HART SAYS

REID TAKES AWAY YOUR RIGHT

TO REPRESENTATION.

THIS IS ABOUT THE RIGHTS

AND PRIVILEGES OF EVERY

SINGLE AMERICAN CITIZEN.

Reporter: PAUL STRAND,

CBN NEWS, WASHINGTON.

Pat: WHO WOULD HAVE

THOUGHT THAT A DIMINUTIVE

GENTLEMAN FROM THE STATE OF

NEVADA COULD HAVE SUCH

POWER.

HE HAS GOT IT.

HE IS A VERY, VERY SMART

POLITICAL OPERATIVE.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THIS

IS THE ISSUE OF THIS

CAMPAIGN, AND THE CONTROL OF

THE SENATE IS VITAL.

SIX VOTES.

SIX SENATORS.

AND THE MONEY BEING SPENT ON

THOSE RACES IS

UNPRECEDENTED.

NORTH CAROLINA IS GOING TO

SET A RECORD.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE

POLITICAL ACTION PEOPLE HAVE

DUMPED IN ANOTHER FEW

MILLION DOLLARS INTO NORTH

CAROLINA.

BUT LOUISIANA AND -- WELL,

ALASKA AND MONTANA AND SO

FORTH.

WILL IT GO?

IF THE SENATE CHANGES AND

MITCHELL McCONNELL BECOMES

THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER,

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE

A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT

GOVERNMENT.

THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT IS

COMING UP IN JUST TWO

WEEKS.

IN OTHER NEWS, DOCTORS HAVE

GOOD NEWS IN THE FIGHT

AGAINST THE EBOLA VIRUS HERE

IN AMERICA.

JOHN JESSUP HAS THAT STORY

FROM OUR CBN NEWS BUREAU IN

WASHINGTON.

John: DOCTORS IN DALLAS

SAY MORE THAN 40 PEOPLE

EXPOSED TO THE FIRST EBOLA

PATIENT DIAGNOSED IN THE

UNITED STATES DO NOT HAVE

THE DISEASE.

AND NOW, AS DALE HURD

REPORTS, THE C.D.C. HAS

ISSUED TOUGHER GUIDELINES

FOR HEALTH CARE WORKERS

TREATING PATIENTS WITH THE

VIRUS.

Reporter: THE C.D.C.

GUIDELINES NOW CALL FOR A

FULL BODY SUIT WITH A HOOD

THAT PROTECTS HEALTH CARE

WORKERS' NECKS.

AND THERE IS STRINGENT

PROTOCOLS FOR REMOVEMENT OF

EQUIPMENT, AND A SUPERVISOR

TO SUPERVISE THE PUTTING ON

AND REMOVAL OF THE SUITS.

DALLAS SHOWS THAT TAKING

CARE OF EBOLA IS HARD.

Reporter: MEANWHILE,

THE FIANCEE OF THOMAS ERIC

DUNCAN, LOUIS TROH AND HER

FAMILY, SPENT THE FIRST

NIGHT OUT OF QUARANTINE,

AFTER BEING GIVEN THE

ALL-CLEAR.

SHE IS THRILLED TO BE

FREE.

AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT

WHAT FREEDOM MEANS AT THIS

POINT.

Reporter: MOST OF HER

POSSESSIONS WERE DESTROYED

BY THE DECONTAMINATION

TEAMS.

ALL SHE HAS LEFT, A

GRANDMOTHER'S BIBLE, A

LAPTOP, AND A PASSPORT.

STILL, EXPERTS ARE

ENCOURAGED SHE MADE IT

THROUGH WITHOUT GETTING

INFECTED.

EVEN THOUGH SHE SHARED AN

APARTMENT WITH DUNCAN.

AND THEY HOPE IT EASES FEARS

ABOUT EBOLA SPREADING.

Reporter: IN OHIO, 142

PEOPLE WERE STILL BEING

MONITORED FOR SYMPTOMS.

THREE PEOPLE REMAIN UNDER

QUARANTINE BECAUSE THEY HAD

DIRECT SKIN CONTACT WITH ONE

OF THE TWO NURSES INFECTED

BY DUNCAN, AFTER SHE VISITED

THE STATE BY AIRLINER.

AND 116 PEOPLE ARE STILL

BEING MONITORED IN DALLAS,

ALONG WITH NEAR OF 200

OTHERS WHO TRAVELLED ON THE

SAME PLANE AT NURSE AMBER

VINSON.

DALE HURD, CBN NEWS.

John: PAT, IT IS

CERTAINLY GOOD NEWS THAT THE

VIRUS APPEARS TO BE

CONTAINED.

Pat: I THINK IT IS GOOD

NEWS.

THEY HAD A REPORT ON

NIGERIA, WHICH IS THE

LARGEST COUNTRY IN AFRICA IS

EBOLA-FREE.

WHY?

BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY

CAREFUL.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE HAS

BEEN AN OUTBREAK IN ZAIRE,

WHICH IS WHERE THE EBOLA

RIVER WAS.

ATHLETES PEOPLE ARTHESE

PEOPLE ARE TAKING THE

NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS.

I WANT TO TELL PEOPLE IN

THIS AUDIENCE IT IS NOT THAT

BIG OF A DEAL.

IT HAS BEEN MADE A BIG

DEAL.

IT IS A SCARY THING, AND

THESE OTHER TYPES OF HEM

HEMORAPHIC, BUT IT CAN'T

COMB CLOS COME CLOSE TO

WHAT WE HAD IN THE FIRST

WORLD WAR.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CLOSE

TO THAT.

A FEW THOUSAND PEOPLE HAVE

DIED, AND IT IS A SCARY

THING, NEVERTHELESS.

BUT BY USING WISE

PRECAUTIONS, AND RESTRICTING

TRAVEL FROM THOSE INFECTED

AREAS, THIS THING CAN BE

CONTAINED.

FOR THAT I'M VERY GRATEFUL

BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT A

MAJOR OUTBREAK OF A HORRIBLE

DISEASE IN THIS COUNTRY.

I THINK THE HEALTH FIBERS

AND TH OFFICIALS AND THE

C.D.C. ARE GETTING WITH THE

PROGRAM AND I'M VERY

ENCOURAGED.

John: PAT, THE SUPREME

COURT'S DECISION TO PROTECT

SAME-SEX MARRIAGE IN SEVERAL

STATES IS THE MOST

SIGNIFICANT ACTION OF

OBAMA'S PRESIDENCY.

EARLIER THIS MONTH, LOWER

COURTS REFUSED TO GET

INVOLVED IN OTHER

DECISIONS.

IN AN INTERVIEW WITH A NEW

YORKER, THE PRESIDENT ALSO

SAID, ULTIMATELY, I THINK

THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE

DOES GUARANTEE SAME-SEX

MARRIAGE IN ALL 50 STATES.

AND THE PRESIDENT ALSO SAYS

HE DOESN'T EVER SEE HIMSELF

SERVING ON THE SUPREME

COURT.

TURKEY WILL NOW ALLOWED

KURDS TO GO TO IRAQ IN

SYRIA, IN DEFENDING KOBANI

FROM ISIS FIGHTERS.

THE KURDISH FOREIGN MINISTER

MADE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AFTER

THE U.S. SAID IT DROPPED

SUPPLIES INTO THE AREA.

THE FIGHT FOR THE TOWN HAS

BECOME A KEY BATTLE BETWEEN

THE AMERICAN COALITION AND

ISIS, WITH MANY CRITICS,

INCLUDING THOSE IN TURKEY,

SAYING THE U.S. HASN'T DONE

ENOUGH.

PAT, YOU'VE BEEN SAYING ALL

ALONG THE U.S. NEEDS TO DO

MORE TO HELP THE KURDS.

Pat: I AM A GREAT

SUPPORTER OF THE KURDS.

I THINK THEY DESERVE THEIR

OWN COUNTRY.

THEY'RE WONDERFUL PEOPLE.

AND WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN

THAT KURDISH REGION OF IRAQ

IS A MIRACLE.

IT IS AN ABSOLUTE MIRACLE OF

FREE ENTERPRISE AND

INTELLIGENT GOVERNMENT.

THEY'RE TERRIFIC PEOPLE.

THE UNITED STATES HAS GOT TO

RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH OF THE

MATTER IS IRAQ IS A CREATURE

OF THE EUROPEAN POWERS

FOLLOWING WORLD WAR I.

IT ISN'T A NATURAL ALIGNMENT

OF SHI'A, SUNNI, AND KURDS.

AND WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE

THAT IT IS.

AND WE'RE TELLING THEM,

WELL, YOU'VE GOT TO BE

IRAQIS.

AND THE KURDS SAY, NO, WE'RE

KURDS.

WE DON'T WANT TO BE IRAQIS.

AND CONSEQUENTLY, WE'VE HAD

THIS PROBLEM.

BUT ONCE WE BEGIN TO SUPPORT

THE KURDS DIRECTLY, GIVE

THEM ARMS DIRECTLY, NOT

THROUGH THE CENTRAL

GOVERNMENT IN BAGHDAD.

THEY HAVE A TREMENDOUS

FIGHTING FORCE.

THOSE PESHMERGA ARE WILLING

TO DIE FOR WHAT THEY

BELIEVE.

IF WE ARM THEM PROPERLY,

THEY CAN TAKE THE FIGHT TO

ISIS.

I'M VERY GLAD.

OF COURSE THE TURKS DOUNT

DON'T LIKE THE KURDS.

THEY REGARD THEM AS

TERRORISTS.

AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS

ELIMINATE THEM.

SO IN ORDER TO ALLOW KURDS

TO GO ACROSS THE BORDER TO

HELP THE PEOPLE IN KOBANI,

THE TURKS ARE SAYING WE'RE

SORT OF TORN.

WELL, SORT OF TORN?

IT IS TIME TO GET WITH IT.

THE KURDS IN IRAQ AND THE

KURDS IN SYRIA DESERVE THEIR

OWN COUNTRY.

AND THE GREAT POWERS HAVE

GOT TO SAY, WE BLEW IT AFTER

WORLD WAR I WHEN WOODROW

WILSON GAVE A DECLARATION

THAT THEY HAD THE RIGHT OF

SELF-DETERMINATION.

AND NOW IS THE TIME TO DO

SOMETHING FOR THEM.

WE CERTAINLY NEED TO SUPPORT

THEM NOW WITH HEAVY WEAPONS,

WHATEVER WE CAN GET TO

THEM.

WE'RE NOT GIVING THEM ANY

TANK, BUT WE ARE GIVING THEM

ANTI-TANK WEAPONS.

SO THEY COULD TAKE ON ISIS

AND BEAT THEM.

TERRY?

Terry: COMING UP, HE IS

AMERICA'S PERSONAL FINANCE

GURU, AND HE IS SHOWING YOU

HOW TO MAKE MONEY.

AND NOW DAVE RAMSEY IS GOING

TO SHOW US WHAT TO DO WITH

THAT MONEY, AND THAT'S

NEXT.

Pat: WELL, MILLIONS

TUNE INTO DAVE RAMSEY'S

RADIO SHOW TO LEARN HOW TO

GET OUT OF DEBT, MANAGE

THEIR FINANCES, AND BUILD

WEALTH.

HIS LATEST BOOK IS "THE

LEGACY JOURNAL,

A RADICAL

VIEW OF BIBLICAL WEALTH AND

GENEROSITY," AND DAVE IS

JOINING US FROM NASHVILLE,

TENNESSEE.

WELCOME TO "THE 700 CLUB."

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU, PAT.

IT IS GOOD TO BE WITH YOU

AGAIN.

Pat: I LIKED YOUR

BOOK.

YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB

HERE.

I RECOMMENDED IT TO OUR

AUDIENCE, "THE LEGACY

JOURNEY."

THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THIS

COUNTRY WHO THINK WEALTH IS

EVIL.

YOU ADDRESS THAT PRETTY

CAREFULLY IN THIS BOOK.

I THINK THAT IS ONE OF

THE REASONS THAT GOD ASKED

ME TO WRITE THIS BOOK.

I THINK THERE IS A PROBLEM

OUT THERE WITH BAD AND TOXIC

TEACHING THAT SOMEHOW IF

YOU'VE WON WITH MONEY, IF

YOU BUILT A LEVEL OF WEALTH,

IF YOU'VE BECOME SUCCESSFUL,

THAT BIBLICALLY YOU'VE DONE

SOMETHING WRONG.

THAT IS ACTUALLY A FORM OF

HARASSY CALLED NOSTACISM.

WE NEED TO KNOW THAT GOD

OWNS IT ALL. WE'RE JUST

MANAGERS FOR HIM.

WE'RE JUST STEWARDS.

WHAT DOES HE CALL US THEN TO

DO WITH HIS WEALTH AS HE

MANAGE IT FOR HIM?

Pat: YOU TALK IN THIS

BOOK ABOUT ONE GUY WHO WAS A

BILLIONAIRE, AND HE GIVES

AWAY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF

DOLLARS, AND YET HE WAS

ASHAMED OF THE QUALITY OF

THE WATCH HE BOUGHT.

WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

DO WE HAVE A GUILT FEELING?

IT SEEMS THAT THE

FINANCIAL BLESSINGS ARE THE

ONLY BLESSINGS WE APOLOGIZE

FOR.

AND THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

WE DON'T APOLOGIZE WHEN GOD

BLESSES US WITH HEALTH OR A

LIFE-LONG WONDERFUL MATE OR

WONDERFUL CHILDREN.

BUT IF HE BLESSES US WITH

WEALTH OR FINANCIAL SUCCESS,

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO APOLOGIZE

FOR THAT, ACCORDING TO THE

CULTURE.

THIS IS ABOUT WHEN YOU DO

THINGS BIBLICALLY WITH

MONEY, YOU WILL END UP WITH

THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE

MONEY FOR THE KINGDOM.

Pat: WELL, I THINK THE

GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO TAKE

THE RESPONSIBILITY AWAY FROM

YOU, AND MANY PEOPLE THINK

WE OUGHT TO LET THE

GOVERNMENT TAKE IT AWAY.

YOU DON'T FAVOR THE

INHERITANCE TAX TOO MUCH?

NO.

I'M NOT A FAIR OF THE

INHERITANCE TAX.

I'VE ALREADY BEEN TAXED ON

IT ONCE.

AND THEN THEY'RE GOING TO

TAX IT AGAIN.

WE WORK WITH A LOT OF FAMILY

BUSINESSES AND A LOT OF

FARMERS WHO ARE DEVASTATED

BY THE IN TER INHERITANCE

TAX AND WHAT IT DOES TO

PEOPLE.

YOU'RE RIGHT, I'M NOT A FAN

OF THAT.

THAT COMES BACK TO THE

OVERALL DISCUSSION OF WHO

DOES GOD CALL TO MANAGE THIS

MONEY?

DOES HE CALL THE GOVERNMENT

TO MANAGE OUR WEALTH, OR

DOES HE CALL ON THE

INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE MANAGING

HIS MONEY FOR HIM FOR THE

GLORY OF HIS KINGDOM.

Pat: YOU SAY ALL OF US

ARE CALLED TO GENEROSITY,

THOUGH?

THAT'S A KEY PART OF THE

WEALTH?

ABSOLUTELY.

ONE INSTRUCTION FOR THOSE OF

US WHO ARE CALLED TO MANAGE

IS OUTRAGEOUS GENEROSITY,

WRAPPED IN COMPASSION AND A

SMILE AND SOME LOVE.

SO MAKE SURE THAT IF YOU

CALL YOURSELF A CHRISTIAN,

DON'T BE GOING TO A

RESTAURANT AND NOT LEAVE A

TIP.

BE GENEROUS.

LEAVE A RIDICULOUS TIP.

BE KNOWN AS THE GENEROUS

TIPPER ON THE PLANET.

BE KNOWN AS A PERSON WHO

SHOWS UP WITH A SPIRIT OF

GENEROSITY, AND WITH THE

MONEY GOD HAS GIVEN US TO

MANAGE.

Pat: WE'VE GOT A

LEGACY, AND THE LEGACY ISN'T

NECESSARILY MONEY, BUT HOW

DO YOU RECOMMEND

SAFEGUARDING THE LEGACY?

I THINK ONE OF THE FEARS

OF PEOPLE WITH WEALTH IS

THAT IF I BUILD WEALTH, MY

CHILDREN WILL END UP ON A

REALITY SHOW.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT

WAY.

A GOOD MAN, PROVERBS SAYS,

LEAVES AN INHERITANCE TO HIS

CHILDREN'S CHILDREN.

THAT'S AN INHERITANCE OF

CHARACTER, THAT'S TRUE, BUT

IT IS ACTUAL FINANCIAL

INHERITANCE AS WELL.

DAVID DIDN'T BUILD THE

TEMPLE.

SOLOMON BUILT THE TEMPLE

WITH HIS DAD'S MONEY.

IT WAS INHERITED MONEY.

LEAVING AN INHERITANCE, AND

TEACHING YOUR KIDS THEY

DON'T OWN IT.

WHAT YOU'RE INHERITING IS

NOT FREE MONEY.

YEAR INHERITING A

RESPONSIBILITY TO CONTINUE

THIS FAMILY'S CALL TO MANAGE

MONEY FOR THE GOOD OF THE

KINGDOM.

Pat: THERE IS SOMETHING

ELSE YOU TALK ABOUT THAT IS

VERY IMPORTANT.

YOU TAKE $100 EVERY MONTH

AND YOU PUT IT INTO SOME

KIND OF AN INDEX FUND.

AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW,

WHEN YOU RETIRE, YOU RETIRE

A MILLIONAIRE.

THAT IS NOT PIE IN THE SKY.

THAT'S THE REAL THING.

IF YOU AVERAGED 12% ON A

ROTH/I.R.A., AND YOU SAVED

$100 A MONTH FROM AGED 30 TO

AGE 70, AND YOU UNDERSTOOD

THAT PROVERBS SAYS, "IN THE

HOUSE OF THE WISE ARE CHOICE

FOODS AND OIL," YOU'LL END

UP WITH $1,176,000, AND EVEN

IF I'M HALF WRONG, YOU'LL DO

GOOD.

I STARTED WITH NOTHING AND

BECAME A MILLIONAIRE AND

LOST EVERYTHING BECAUSE I

WAS STUPID.

I BORROWED MONEY UP TO MY

EYEBALLS, AND I FOUND OUT

THAT THE BORROWER IS SLAVE

TO THE LENDER.

BUT, LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE, I

MET GOD ON THE WAY UP, BUT I

GOT TO KNOW HIM ON THE WAY

DOWN.

NOW 25 YEARS LATER OF

TEACHING WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS

ABOUT MONEY, THIS LEGACY

JOURNEY, I THINK, IS THE

NEXT CHAPTER, SO TO SPEAK,

IN WHAT WE TEACH.

Pat: IT IS A TERRIFIC

BOOK.

I READ IT, AND IT'S A GOOD

READ.

DAVE, I MUST SAY IT IS

BIBLICAL SOUND ALL OF THE

WAY THROUGH.

THERE IS A BUNCH OF HARASSY

GOING AROUND.

TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE

HARASSY.

THIS IS SOLID.

THIS BOOK, I REALLY

RECOMMEND IT.

COMING FROM HUGE, THAT'S

A HUGE CLIMATE.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THE BIGGEST ONE I GET FROM

FOLKS BASED ON THEIR

POLITICAL AGENDA, IF THE CAM

CAMEL CAN'T GET THROUGH THE

EYE OF A NEEDLE, THEN A RICH

MAN CAN'T GET INTO HEAVEN.

IF THAT'S THE CASE, AND

JESUS' BLOOD ISN'T POWERFUL

ENOUGH TO GET INTO HEAVEN, I

THINK THAT IS CALLED

HARASSY.

WHEN YOU START PUTTING

LIMITS ON THE POWER OF THE

CROSS, AND LIMITS ON THE

POWER OF THE GRACE THAT IS

EXTENDED TO US FROM THE SON

THROUGH THE FATHER, THUNDER

THAN THAT'S SPIRIT VERSUS

MATERIALISM.

IT MEANS SOMEONE DOESN'T

UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE.

THEY'RE NOT MEAN, BUT THEY

DON'T UNDERSTAND.

WE HAVE A LOT OF BIBLICAL

ILLITERACY OUT THERE.

THE BIBLE SAYS THE DILIGENT

PROSPER.

THAT MEANS IF YOU'RE

DILIGENT, YOU WORK HARD AND

YOU SAVE YOUR MONEY, YOU'RE

GOING TO HAVE SOME MONEY.

THAT'S A SIMPLE THINGMENT

ANTHING.

AND YOU HAVEN'T DONE

SOMETHING WRONG.

AND IT DOESN'T PREEMPT YOU

FROM HEAVEN.

TO SAY THAT IS HARASSY.

Pat: "THE LEGACY

JOURNEY," BY DAVE RAMSEY.

IT IS AVAILABLE WHERE BOOKS

ARE SOLD.

IT WILL MAKE A NICE

CHRISTMAS GIFT.

ABSOLUTELY.

Pat: DAVE, THANKS FOR

BEING WITH US.

IT IS AN HONOR TO BE WITH

YOU AGAIN, SIR.

THANK YOU.

Terry: COMING UP, ONE

MINUTE HE WAS A DOCTOR IN A

MEDICAL CLINIC, AND THE NEXT

WAS THE TALIBAN'S PRISONER

OF WAR.

HEAR THE REST OF HIS STORY.

THAT'S NEXT.

Terry: AS A MEDICAL

DIRECTOR FOR MORNINGSTAR

DEVELOPMENT, DR. JOSEPH HAS

BEEN TO AFGHANISTAN NUMEROUS

TIMES.

WHILE THERE HAY HA HE HAS

TRAINED HEALTH CARE AND SEEN

PATIENTS AND WAS KIDNAPPED

BY THE TALIBAN.

Reporter: IN DECEMBER

DECEMBER 2012, DR. JOSEPH

WAS WORKING AT A MEDICAL

CLINIC IN RURAL AFGHANISTAN

WHEN HE WAS CAPTURED BY THE

TALIBANMENTALIBAN.

FOR SEVERAL DAYS, HIS

CAPTORS FORCED HIM TO HIKE

THROUGH THE RUGGED MOUNTAINS

TO AN UNKNOWN DESTINATION.

THEN IN THE EARLY MORNING

HOURS OF DAY FIVE, U.S. NAVY

SEALS BURST INTO THE ROOM

WHERE HE AND THE TALIBAN

WERE SLEEPING.

IN HIS BOOK "KIDNAPPED BY

THE TALIBAN," DR. JOSEPH

GIVES AN ACCOUNT OF HIS

TERRIFYING EXPERIENCE, THE

HEROIC RESCUE, AND WHY HE

CONTINUES TO HELP THE PEOPLE

OF AFGHANISTAN.

Terry: DR. DYLAN JOSEPH

IS HERE WITH US NOW, AND

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THANK YOU, TERRY.

Terry: TALK A LITTLE

ABOUT THE WORK YOU HAVE DONE

IN AFGHANISTAN.

YOU'VE BEEN WORKING THERE

FOR SOME TIME.

IT HAS BEEN ABOUT FIVE

AND A HALF YEARS.

AND AS THE MEDICAL DIRECTOR

FOR MORNINGSTAR DEVELOPMENT,

I TRAVEL IN AND OUT AND

CONDUCT MEDICAL TRAINING

SEMINARS FOR OUR HEALTH CARE

WORKERS IN THE COUNTRY.

Terry: DID YOU EVER

FEEL ANY ANXIETY ABOUT THE

POTENTIAL FOR CAPTURE

BEFORE?

THERE IS ALWAYS THAT

THOUGHT IN THE BACK OF YOUR

MIND, BUT AS AN

ORGANIZATION, WE HAVE A VERY

SOLID SECURITY PROTOCOL.

BOTH FROM THE GOVERNMENTAL

POINT OF VIEW AND ALSO FROM

THE LOCAL COMMUNITY POINT OF

VIEW.

BUT ON THIS SPECIFIC

OCCASION, IT DIDN'T WORK OUT

THAT WELL FOR US.

Terry: WHAT HAPPENED ON

THE DAY YOU WERE CAPTURED?

WE WERE COMING BACK FROM

OUR HOST RURAL CLINIC, NOT

TOO FAR FROM THE PAKISTAN

BORDER.

ON OUR WAY DOWN, WE HAD SOME

INSURGENTS WAITING FOR US ON

THE ROADSIDE.

Terry: DID YOU KNOW

IMMEDIATELY YOU WERE IN

TROUBLE?

YEAH, THE MOMENT I SAW

THE FIRST GUNMAN POP OUT OF

THE BUSH, I KNEW THERE WAS

TROUBLE.

Terry: YOU HAD TO WALK

AN UNBELIEVABLE DISTANCE

THAT FIRST NIGHT.

I MEAN, YOU DIDN'T HAVE FOOD

AT THE TIME.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE WA WATER AT

THE TIME, AND YOU WALKED FOR

NINE HOURS OR SOMETHING?

VERY CLOSE.

WE WERE PUT BACK TO OUR SAME

VAN AND TAKEN TO A VERY

REMOTE AREA.

FROM THAT AREA, WE WALKED

FOR A GOOD EIGHT PLUS HOURS,

UNTIL WE CAME TO THIS

ABANDONED SHACK THE NEXT

MORNING.

Terry: WHAT WAS GOING

THROUGH YOUR MIND AT THAT

TIME?

DID YOU THINK YOU WOULD

DIE?

DID YOU ASSUME YOU WOULD

LIVE?

WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?

YEAH.

IN THE EARLY PARTS OF THAT

HIKING, ESPECIALLY THERE WAS

NOT A LOT OF CONVERSATION

GOING ON.

AND ALL KINDS OF THOUGHTS

WENT THROUGH MY MIND.

I HAD TO SETTLE IN MY MIND

THAT IF GOD SOMEHOW GOT ME

TO AFGHANISTAN AND GAVE ME

THESE OPPORTUNITIES, GOD IS

SOMEHOW IN CONTROL OF THIS

SITUATION AS WELL.

AND AS SOON AS I WAS ABLE TO

SETTLE THAT WITHIN AN HOUR

OR SO, I WAS ABLE TO WALK

THE REST OF THE TIME JUST

SINGING HYMNS AND PRAISING

GOD.

Terry: YOU HAD AN

INTERESTING GROUP OF MEN

THAT HAD INITIALLY CAPTURED

YOU.

AND THEN YOU HAD MANY THAT

CAME INTO THIS GROUP OVER A

WINDOW OF TIME.

SOME VERY INTIMIDATING, AND

SOME QUITE FRIENDLY.

YEAH.

I HAD A VERY INTERESTING MIX

OF PEOPLE.

AND SOME OF THEM VERY MUCH

SURPRISED ME.

WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE

TALIBAN OR ANY INSURGENCY

GROUP, I THINK WE CAN EASILY

FORGET THAT SOME OF THEM, IF

NOT ALL OF THEM, ARE STILL

SEARCHING, SEARCHING FOR

THAT TRUTH.

AND IT IS THEIR SEARCH AND

THEIR STRUGGLE FOR THAT

TRUTH IS WHAT IS GETTING

THEM INTO CERTAIN SITUATIONS

WHERE THEY THINK THEY'RE

DOING RIGHT.

Terry: YOU HAD AN

INTERESTING CONVERSATION

WITH ONE OF THEM, WHO

ACTUALLY WAS ONE OF THE

LEADERS AND QUIET FRIENDLY,

ABOUT FAMILY.

JUST WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT

YOUR LIFE HERE IN AMERICA.

THAT'S RIGHT.

HE WAS A VERY YOUNG MAN.

I DIDN'T REALIZE HE WAS AS

YOUNG AS 19 YEARS OLD.

DURING THE CONVERSATION, A

LOT OF THE DETAILS CAME

OUT.

AND HE JUST WANTED TO KNOW A

LOT ABOUT MY UPBRINGING, WHY

I DO THE TYPE OF WORK THAT I

DO.

AND HE ASKED A LOT OF

QUESTIONS ABOUT MY IMMEDIATE

FAMILY AND EXTENDED FAMILY.

FROM THAT CONVERSATION, HE

STARTED TO EXTRACT PIECES OF

HIS OWN LIFE, AND HE WOULD

REFLECT THAT BACK TO ME.

Terry: YOU HAD A LITTLE

GLIMPSE OF THE SIGNIFICANCE

OF FAMILY IN THE AFGHANI

LIFE?

THAT'S RIGHT.

AS A CULTURE, THEY'RE

WELL-KNOWN FOR THEIR

HOSPITALITY.

WHEN THEY SAY FAMILY, THEY

ARE MOST OF THE TIME TALKING

ABOUT THEIR ENTIRE SUBTRIBAL

GROUP.

THEY'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT

IMMEDIATE FAMILY.

WE'RE MORE, IN OUR CULTURE,

KNOWNNTO THINK ABOUT FAMILY

AS THE IMMEDIATE UNIT.

BUT THEY TALK ABOUT FAMILY

AS THEIR ENTIRE TRIBE.

Terry: ON A BROADER

SCALE.

AT ONE POINT THERE WERE

THREE OF YOU WHO WERE

CAPTURED.

YOU AND TWO AFGHANIS THAT

YOU WORKED WITH OVER THERE.

YES.

Terry: AT ONE POINT

THEY TAKE THE OTHER TWO AWAY

AND YOU ARE LEFT ALONE.

THAT WAS A VERY LOW POINT

BECAUSE MY LOCAL MEDICAL

DIRECTOR WAS ALSO MY

TRANSLATOR.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I KNEW

EXACTLY WHAT WAS GOING ON.

AND, OF COURSE, AFTER MANY

YEARS OF WORKING CLOSELY

WITH HIM AND OUR DRIVER, WE

HAD BECOME VERY CLOSE.

THERE IS A GREAT PROVERB IN

THE A AFGHAN LANGUAGE SAYS,

"THE FIRST TIME WE MEET, WE

ARE FRIENDS.

BUT THE SECOND TIME, WE'RE

BROTHERs."

WE HAD BECOME VERY CLOSE.

I HUGGED BOTH OF THEM

GOOD-BYE, KNOWING VERY WELL

I MIGHT NEVER HAVE THE

CHANCE TO SEE THEM AGAIN.

JUST THAT BROKENNESS, I

THINK, TOUCHED THE FEW THAT

WAS LEFT BEHIND, LEFT IN MY

GROUP.

AND THAT WERE ABOUT FIVE OF

THEM LEFT WITH ME AT THAT

POINT.

Terry: THERE HAD TO BE

A FEAR AT THAT POINT, WHEN

YOU'RE ALONE WITH THEM, NOT

KNOWING ALSO IF YOU'RE EVER

GOING TO GET OUT OF HERE.

YOU HAVE A WIFE AND

CHILDREN.

WHAT WAS THAT LIKE FOR YOU?

YEAH.

THROUGHOUT THOSE FOUR DAYS I

REALLY HAD TO SAY, I HAVE TO

GIVE THIS UP TO GOD BECAUSE

THE HOPE OF GETTING OUT OF A

SITUATION LIKE THAT IS VERY,

VERY MINIMAL.

Terry: UNBELIEVABLE.

TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW

YOU GOT OUT OF IT BECAUSE

THAT IS PRETTY UNBELIEVABLE,

TOO.

THE RESCUE EFFORT WAS

SOMETHING THAT WAS THE VERY

LAST THING ON MY MIND.

ESPECIALLY AS A CIVILIAN.

IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE

AMERICAN OR THE NATO

MILITARY FORCES HAVE TO GET

INVOLVED WITH.

BUT THE EARLY MORNINGS OF

THE FIFTH DAY, THAT'S WHEN

SOME NATO FORCES CAME IN.

AND THE ONLY THING THAT

TIPPED ME OFF WAS THE FACT

THAT THIS 19-YEAR-OLD

SHOT -- HAD THE FIRST

GUNSHOT THAT ACTUALLY KILLED

THE FIRST NAVY SEAL THAT

WALKED INTO THE ROOM.

AND THEN THE FACT THAT THERE

WERE SO MANY COMMANDS BEING

MADE IN ENGLISH, I HAD TO

THINK REAL QUICKLY, I'M THE

ONLY GUY WHO WOULD

UNDERSTAND ENGLISH, THIS

MUST BE FOR ME, A RESCUE

EFFORT.

THE WHOLE THING TOOK LESS

THAN MAYBE A COUPLE OF

MINUTES.

Terry: I KNOW YOU WERE

THRILLED TO BE RESCUED, AND

THAT GOD HAD BROUGHT YOU OUT

OF IT AND YOU WERE GOING

HOME TO YOUR FAMILY, BUT YOU

HAD DEVELOPED A LITTLE BIT

OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOME

OF THESE MEN, AND THEY WERE

ALL SHOT IN THE PROCESS OF

YOUR RESCUE.

AND THERE WAS A CERTAIN

SADNESS TO THAT?

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK EVEN WHILE YOU WORK

IN A PLACE LIKE THAT, IT IS

VERY EASY TO REMOVE YOURSELF

FROM THE FACT THAT THEY'RE

ALSO SEEKING.

THEY NEED THE COMPASSION AND

THE GRACE THAT WE HAVE

EXPERIENCED IN OUR LIVES.

AND THE MOMENT YOU REMOVE

YOURSELF FROM THAT, YOU'RE

NO DIFFERENT FROM ANYONE

ELSE.

SO I WAS VERY MUCH SURPRISED

AND TOUCHED BY THIS

19-YEAR-OLD, AND A FEW

OTHERS, DURING MY TIME.

AND I KEPT COMING BACK TO

THE MATTERS OF GRACE AND

COMPASSION.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE

MOMENTS.

Terry: I KNOW THAT THE

NAVY SEALS DID AN AMAZING

JOB IN RESCUING YOU, AND WE

WANT TO SAY KUDOS TO THEM.

THIS IS A FASCINATING BOOK,

"KIDNAPPED BY THE TALIBAN."

THIS MAN HAS A STORY FEW

HAVE.

DR. JOSEPH, THANK YOU SO

MUCH AND FOR BEING WITH US.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU.

Pat: IT IS QUITE A

DAY.

STILL AHEAD, WE HAVE A

MUSLIM WHO GREW UP IN BIN

LADEN'S NEIGHBORHOOD.

HE IDOLIZED BEN BI BIN

LADEN.

I WILL GO STRAIGHT, NOT

JUST TO HEAVEN, BUT TO THE

HIGHEST LEVEL OF HEAVEN,

WHICH IS PARADISE, SO WHY

NOT GOING FOR WHAT IS

GUARANTEED, AND THAT IS TO

DIE.

Pat: FIND OUT WHY HE

STARTED QUESTIONING HIS

FAITH, COMING UP NEXT.

AND WELCOME BACK TO "THE

700 CLUB" FOR THIS CBN

NEWSBREAK.

AN IRANIAN COURT HAS

SENTENCED PASTOR BENHAM IRNI

TO AN ADDITIONAL SIX YEARS

IN PRISON.

PASTOR BENHAM BEGAN SERVING

A SIX-YEAR SENTENCE IN

MAY 2011.

HE MUST NOW SERVE A TOTAL OF

12 YEARS FOR SUPPOSEDLY

COMMITTING CRIMES AGAINST

IRANIAN NATIONAL SECURITY.

THAT'S THE CHARGE THE

REPUBLIC USUALLY GIVES

CHRISTIANS ARRESTED FOR

EVANGELIZING AND OPERATING

ILLEGAL HOUSE CHURCHES.

THE PASTOR IS EXPECTED TO BE

MOVED TO A PRISON THAT

HOUSES DRUG SMUGGLERS.

THREE VICTIMS OF HUMAN

TRAFFICKING ARE WAGING A

LEGAL BATTLE AGAINST A

WEBSITE THEY SAY EXPLOITS

CHILDREN.

THE BACK-PAGE WEBSITE OFFERS

SO-CALLED "ADULT SERVICES."

ATTORNEYS FOR THE THREE

GIRLS SAY THEY WERE

EXPLOITED AND SOLD AS

PROSTITUTES IN

ADVERTISEMENTS ON THE

WEBSITE.

THE WASHINGTON STATE SUPREME

COURT IS HEARING THAT CASE

TODAY.

BACKPAGE.COM REPRESENTATIVES

DENIED THE ALLEGATIONS.

THEY SAY THE LAWSUIT IS AN

ATTEMPT AT SENSORSHIP.

ANOTHER FEDERAL LAWSUIT

AGAINST BACK PAGE WAS FILED

IN BOSTON JUST LAST WEEK.

REMEMBER YOU CAN ALWAYS GET

THE LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE,

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND TERRY ARE BACK WITH

MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB,"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: WE WANT YOU TO

HAVE A HEALTHY IMMUNE

SYSTEM.

WE CONTINUE TO HAVE A GREAT

RESPONSE TO OUR "PROTECT

YOUR HEALTH" SERIES, AND IT

IS NOT TOO LATE TO REQUEST

YOUR FREE D.V.D.

IT INCLUDES ALL FIVE

SEGMENTS ON HEALTHY LIVING

WITH TOP-NOTCH ADVICE FROM

EXPERTS.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL

THE NUMBER ON YOUR SCREEN,

1-800-759-0700.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SAY,

I'D LIKE TO GET AHOLD OF THE

"PROTECT YOUR HEALTH"

D.V.D.

WE WANT YOU TO STAY HEALTHY

THIS SEASON.

SO CALL NOW AND GET YOUR

FREE COPY OF THIS.

PAT?

Pat: THE QURAN

SAYS, QUOTE,"MAKE WAR ON THE

I INFIDELS WHO DWELL AROUND

YOU."

AND SAUDI ARABIAN-BORN

MUSLIM ALFATTI KNEW VERSES

LIKE THAT AT HEART.

HE LIVED FOR HIS ISLAMIC

FAITH AND WAS WILLING TO DIE

FOR IT AS WELL.

Reporter: al-FATI WAS

PROUD TO BE A SON OF SAUDI

ARABIA.

GROWING UP IN A COUNTRY

LIKE THAT MADE ME FEEL

REALLY PRIVILEGED, THAT I

WAS BORN IN THE CENTER OF

ISLAM.

Reporter: FROM THE TIME

HE WAS THREE, HE WAS TAUGHT

THAT ISLAM WAS THE ONLY

RELIGION OF GOD.

TO DENY THAT CARRIED SEVERE

CONSEQUENCES.

I USED TO BE TERRIFIED

THAT GOD MIGHT PUNISH ME FOR

DOUBTING SOME OF HIS

COMMANDS.

I BEGAN TO REALIZE AT A VERY

YOUNG AGE THAT THERE IS NO

HOPE FOR ME AS A MUSLIM TO

ATTAIN ANY ACCEPTANCE FROM

MY GOD THAT I'M WORSHIPPING

UNLESS I DO AND ACCUMULATE A

LOT OF GOOD DEEDS THAT ARE

WORTHY.

Reporter: DAILY

PRAYERS, GIVING TO THE POOR,

AND FASTING WERE THOUGHT TO

INCREASE ONE'S CHANCES OF

GETTING INTO HEAVEN.

BUT THE ONLY SURE WAY TO GET

INTO HEAVEN WAS THROUGH THE

ULTIMATE GIFT TO ALLAH.

I KNEW IF I WERE TO GO

DIE FOR THE CAUSE OF THIS

FIGHT, TO PROMOTE ISLAM AND

JUSTICE FOR ISLAM, THAT'S

THE ONLY TIME MY SINS WILL

BE FORGIVEN.

I WILL GO STRAIGHT, NOT JUST

TO HEAVEN, BUT TO THE

HIGHEST LEVEL OF HEAVEN,

WHICH IS PARADISE.

SO WHY NOT GO FOR WHAT IS

GUARANTEED, AND THAT IS TO

DIE.

Reporter: 15-YEAR-OLD

AL SET OUT TO TRAIN FOR

JIHAD.

HIS HERO WAS A MAN WHO HAD

GONE TO SCHOOL THREE BLOCKS

AWAY, OSAMA BIN LADEN.

I REALLY ADMIRED HIS

COURAGE, TO BASICALLY BE

WILLING TO LEAVE THE WEALTH

OF HIS FAMILY FOR THE SAKE

OF PROVING I'M HERE TO FIGHT

AND DIE FOR THE GOD I

WORSHIPPED.

Reporter: AL WANTED TO

JOIN OSAMA AND HIS FIGHTERS

FOR GOD IN AFGHANISTAN,

DURING THE SOVIET INVASION

IN THE '80s, BUT HIS

PARENTS REFUSED HIM TO GO.

HE KNEW DISOBEDIENCE MIGHT

COST HIM THE REWARD OF

HEAVEN.

THAT WAS TERRIFYING TO

ME, I GO AND LOSE MY LIFE

FOR NOTHING.

SO I THOUGHT, I'LL JUST STAY

BEHIND AND GROW MO MOW MORE

IN ISLAM.

Reporter: HIS PARENTS

ENCOURAGED HIM TO CONTINUE

HIS EDUCATION AT AN AMERICAN

GRADUATE SCHOOL, WHICH WOULD

LEAD HIM RIGHT INTO ENEMY

TERRITORY.

SO I WAS KIND OF REALLY

NERVOUS.

THERE WAS THIS DANGER THAT I

MIGHT BE ALSO DRAWN AWAY

FROM THE PATH I'M TAKING,

WHICH IS THE RIDG RIGID

ISLAMIC PATH.

Reporter: HE AL CAME TO

AMERICA WITH A MISSION, TO

CONVERT AMERICANS TO ISLAM.

IT SAYS ANYONE WHO

DOESN'T FOLLOW ISLAM -- WHAT

IF I HAVE A MISSION TO GO

AND INVITE PEOPLE TO ACCEPT

ISLAM.

Reporter: AL BEFRIENDED

AN AMERICAN FAMILY TO HONE

HIS ENGLISH LANGUAGE

SKILLS.

HE BELIEVES BY VIRTUAL OF

THEIR RELATIONSHIP, THE

FAMILY WOULD CONVERT TO

ISLAM.

BUT IT WASN'T THAT SIMPLE

BECAUSE THIS FAMILY WAS

CHRISTIAN.

THAT WAS, TO ME, VERY BAF

FLING.

BAFFLEING.

BOUGHT I'M ASKING MYSELF,

WHERE DID THEY GET THIS

MORAL VALUE FROM.

I ALMOST FELT LIKES A

SPIRITUAL MIDGET COMPARED TO

THEM.

Reporter: al-FATTI

BEGAN TO DOUBT HIS FAITH.

I'M GLIERPG T BEGINNING

TO DOUBT THAT ISLAM MAY NOT

BE THE RELIGION I THOUGHT TO

BE.

Reporter: HE FINISHED

HIS EDUCATION AND GOT A JOB

IN THE UNITED STATES.

HE WAS CONVERTED AGAIN BY

THE STRONG FAITH OF HIS

CO-WORKER.

THIS MAY BE MY

OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP LIS

LAM TO THEM.

ISLAM TO THEM.

I'M THINKING, AS A MUSLIM,

HE IS FOLLOWING A PROPHET.

BUT HE IS FOLLOWING JESUS.

I'M FOLLOWING THE BEST OF

THE PROPHETS, THE PROPHET OF

MOHAMMED, BUT I'M STILL

FEELING THE INNER ACHE.

I BEGAN TO REALIZE THAT

JESUS WAS A CENTRAL PERSON

AND CHARACTER AND POINT IN

THEIR LIVES.

HE WAS THE SOURCE OF THE

CHANGE.

Reporter: AL'S DOUBTS

ABOUT ISLAM BECAME

OVERWHELMING WHEN HE SAW THE

CRIMES COMMITTED BY

JIHADISTS AND HIS HERO,

OSAMA BIN LADEN, ON

SEPTEMBER 11TH 11,

SEPTEMBER 11.

THEY TOOK INNOCENT

LIVES.

I STOPPED GOING TO HAMAS.

I STOPPED READING THE

QURAN.

I STOPPED PRAYING.

Reporter: SEVERAL

MONTHS LATER, HE BEGAN HIS

SPIRITUAL REQUEST AGAIN.

HE DECIDED TO VISIT A

CHRISTIAN CHURCH TO

DISAPPROVE THE CLAIMS OF

CHRISTIANITY.

KNOWING IT IS A HUGE SIN

FOR A MUSLIM TO GO TO

CHRISTIAN CHURCH, I LOOKED

AT THE QURAN AND COMPARED

THE BIBLE, LOOKED AT THE

PERSON OF CHRIST, AND AFTER

SIX MONTHS, I FELL IN LOVE

WITH THIS JESUS.

I JUST COULD NOT RESIST THE

COMPELLING EVIDENCE AND THE

CONVICTION OF THE HOLY

SPIRIT IN MY HEART, AND THE

GOSPEL MESSAGE THAT I'VE

HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THE GOD OF THE BIBLE LOVES

ME AND SENT HIS SON TO DIE

FOR ME.

THE GOD OF THE QURAN NEVER

DID THAT FOR ME.

THE HOLY SPIRIT GAVE ME THAT

COURAGE TO GET DOWN ON MY

KNEES AND PRAY AND ASK HIM

TO BECOME MY LORD AND

SAVIOR.

WHAT A HUGE RELIEF.

BECAUSE NEVER HAD I FELT

FREEDOM INSIDE OF ME AS I

FELT AT THAT MOMENT.

THAT I LOVE YOU LORD, TO

FOLLOW YOU, BUT I DON'T FEEL

ANY PRESSURE ON ME FROM YOU

TO DO THINGS BECAUSE YOU

OBVIOUSLY HAVE DONE IT

ALREADY FOR ME.

Reporter: TODAY

AL-FATI HAS A NEW MISSION:

TO TELL OTHER MUSLIMS ABOUT

JESUS CHRIST.

HIS LATEST BOOK IS "THE

QURAN DILEMMA."

HE IS A PERSONAL GOD THAT

WILL LEAD YOU BY THE HAND

AND LOVE YOU ENOUGH TO WHERE

HE IS SO PATIENT AND WAITING

FOR YOU, KNOCKING ON YOUR

DOOR.

CONSIDER ALLOWING HIM IN.

I WANT MY FELLOW MUSLIMS,

JUST, PLEASE, GIVE THE

MESSAGE OF CHRIST A CHANCE.

PRAY AND ASK THE REAL GOD,

THE TRUE GOD, TO REVEAL

HIMSELF TO YOU.

AND I ASSURE YOU THAT HE

WILL DO THAT IF YOU ARE

TRULY SEEKING HIM WITH ALL

OF YOUR HEART.

Pat: WHAT A MESSAGE.

THE CHRISTIAN GOD LOVED ME

SO MUCH THAT HE DIED THAT I

MIGHT HAVE LIFE.

THE GOD OF THE QURAN NEVER

DID THAT.

WHAT A MESSAGE.

IT'S THE TRUTH.

THE LOVE THAT GOD EXPRESSED

TO US IN JESUS CHRIST IS

BEYOND COMPARE.

OUR GOD DIED ON THE CROSS IN

THE PERSON OF JESUS, BUT HE

ROSE AGAIN.

AND HIS MESSAGE IS LOVE AND

FORGIVENESS AND

RECONCILIATION.

THE CONCEPT OF FORGIVENESS

DOESN'T SHOW UP IN THE

QURANIC TEACHING.

IT IS RETRIBUTION,

HARSHNESS, JUDGMENT, FIRE,

REVENGE, JIHAD.

BUT JESUS PREACHED A MESSAGE

OF LOVE.

BY THIS ALL MEN SHALL KNOW

THAT YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES,

THAT YOU HAVE LOVE FOR ONE

ANOTHER.

HE HAS A MESSAGE OF LOVE.

AND HE LOVED YOU SO MUCH

THAT HE DIED FOR YOU.

SO, ONCE AGAIN, ON THIS

PROGRAM WE GIVE YOU A CHANCE

TO SAY YES TO THE ONE WHO

LOVES YOU, THE ONE WHO DIED

FOR YOU.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO

RECEIVE HIM, JUST ASK HIM.

RIGHT NOW.

I'LL HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT.

I'LL LEAD YOU IN PRAYER.

IF YOU'LL PRAY WITH ME.

PRAY OUT LOUD.

PRAY SLENDERLY. SILENTLY.

PRAY IN A GROUP.

PRAY TOGETHER.

RIGHT NOW, THESE WORDS:

JESUS -- THAT'S RIGHT,

JESUS.

YOU KNOW I'M A SINNER.

I HAVEN'T KEPT ALL OF YOUR

LAWS.

I HAVEN'T KEPT YOUR

COMMANDMENTS.

I'VE DONE THINGS I'M ASHAMED

OF.

BUT I COME TO YOU AND I KNOW

THAT YOU PAID THE PRICE FOR

ALL OF MY SIN.

SO, LORD, RIGHT NOW I ACCEPT

YOUR SACRIFICE FOR ME.

AND I ASK YOU, COME INTO MY

HEART.

LIVE YOUR LIFE IN ME.

AND I WILL LIVE FOR YOU, AND

I WILL SERVE YOU.

ALL THE DAYS OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU, LORD, THAT YOU'VE

HEARD MY PRAYER.

AND THANK YOU THAT YOU'VE

COME INTO MY HEART.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME JUST

THEN, I WANT YOU TO TELL

SOMEBODY.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT

YOU ESTABLISH WHAT YOU'VE

DONE.

IF YOU CONFESS WITH YOUR

MOUTH TO THE LORD JESUS.

I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOMETHING

TO TELL YOU WHAT YOU'VE

DONE.

IT'S CALLED "A NEW DAY."

IT WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD

START IN YOUR CHRISTIAN

LIFE.

I ALSO HAVE SOMETHING, IF

YOU'RE INTERESTED.

IT IS CALLED "ISLAM, A

RELIGION OF PEACE OR WAR?"

THERE ARE MULTIPLE QUOTES

FROM THE QURAN, AND MULTIPLE

DISCUSSION FROM THE CADITH.

THIS WILL ALL BE AVAILABLE

TO YOU.

WE'LL GIVE THIS TO YOU.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME, I'LL

GIVE YOU "A NEW DAY," AND IF

YOU WANT THE BOOK, JUST

CALL.

NO FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.

IF YOU JUST PRAYED WITH ME,

IT'S THE LOVE OF JESUS

CHRIST.

HER IS TERRY WITH MORE.

Terry: THOMAS SAYS, "IS

THERE A RIGHT AND WRONG WAY

TO PRAY?

I TRIED EVERYTHING, BUT MY

PRAYERS AREN'T BEING

ANSWERED."

PAT HAS HIS ANSWER FOR THAT

AND MORE.

THAT'S UP NEXT.

Terry: EVERY YEAR CBN

HOLDS HUNDREDS OF OUTREACHES

THROUGHOUT WEST AFRICA.

THAT'S HOW WE MET A MAN

NAMED BALA, AND OUR VISIT

WITH HIM ENDED IN A

MIRACLE.

TAKE A LOOK.

Reporter: BALA SELLS

FIREWOOD FOR A LIVING IN HIS

VILLAGE IN NORTHERN

NIGERIA.

IN HIS SPARE TIME, HE LIKES

TO READ.

I WAS READING IN FRONT OF

MY HOUSE WHEN I FIRST

NOTICED MY EYE SITE WAS

EYESIGHT WAS GETTING BAD.

Reporter: BEFORE LONG,

HE COMPLETELY LOST HIS

SIGHT.

FOR THREE YEARS I COULD NOT

WALK OR SEE MY FAMILY.

I WANTED TO SEE THEIR FACES

AND LOOK INTO THEIR EYES.

BUT I COULDN'T.

I WAS VERY SAD.

I SOUGHT HELPS FROM DOCTORS

AND SHERMANS, BUT NOTHING

CHANGED.

Reporter: ONE DAY BALA

HEARD A LOT OF CHATTER AMONG

THE VILLAGERS.

THEY HEARD A GROUP OF CBN

PASTORS WERE COMING TO WATCH

THE JESUS FILM.

HE WANTED TO GO, BUT IT WAS

TOO FAR TO WALK BLIND.

WHEN THE TEAM HEARD ABOUT

BALA, THEY WENT TO HIS HOME

AND PRAYED WITH HIM.

AS THE PASTOR PRAYED WITH

ME, MY EYES STARTED TO

ITCH.

I RUBBED THEM, AND I

REALIZED THAT THINGS WERE

GETTING CLEARER AND

CLEARER.

I COULD SEE.

Reporter: BALA AND HIS

FAMILY GAVE THEIR LIVES TO

CHRIST, AND BECAUSE THEY

WITNESSED A MIRACLE FOR

THEMSELVES, MANY OF BALA'S

MUSLIM NEIGHBORS GAVE THEIR

LIVES TO CHRIST, TOO.

NOW BALA IS BACK TO HIS

BUSINESS AND IS GRATEFUL FOR

THE HELP HE RECEIVED.

I THANK GOD FOR BRINGING

THE CBN TEAM TO MY VILLAGE.

NOW I CAN SEE, WORK, AND

ENJOY TIME WITH MY FAMILY.

I AM VERY GRATEFUL.

THANK YOU.

Terry: IN EVERYTHING

THAT CBN DOES, AS WE REACH

OUT TO PEOPLE BOTH HERE AT

HOME AND AROUND THE WORLD,

WE ALWAYS BRING THE MESSAGE

OF FREEDOM THAT THE GOSPEL

OFFERS TO EVERYONE.

PAT JUST PRAYED FOR AN

OPPORTUNITY TO RECEIVE JESUS

CHRIST.

AND THAT HAPPENS IN PEOPLE'S

LIVES AROUND THE WORLD.

IF YOU'RE A "700 CLUB"

MEMBER, YOU ARE A PART OF

THAT.

IF YOU'RE NOT, TODAY IS A

WONDERFUL DAY TO JOIN

BECAUSE WE ARE SHARING THE

GOSPEL WITH PEOPLE.

WE HAVE MEDICAL MISSIONS

GOING ON AROUND THE WORLD.

WE ARE TEACHING YOUNG

CHILDREN WHO COME FROM

FAMILIES OF ILLITERACY.

WE ARE CLOTHING THE NEEDY

AND FEEDING THE HUNGRY.

AND ALL OF THAT IS DONE BY

"700 CLUB" MEMBERS.

IT IS 65 CENTS A DAY, $20 A

MONTH TO BECOME A MEMBER.

IF YOU'RE NOT A MEMBER

ALREADY, WHAT A GREAT DAY IT

IS TO JOIN TODAY.

ALL YOU DO IS CALL THAT

TOLL-FREE NUMBER ON OUR

SCREEN, 1-800-759-0700.

JUST SAY, I WANT TO JOIN

"700 CLUB."

WHEN YOU CALL, WOULD YOU DO

IT USING PLEDGE EXPRESS.

IT MEANS YOUR BANK DOES ALL

OF THE WORK.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO REMEMBER

TO HAVE STAMPS OR ENVELOPES

ON HAND.

IT SAVORS COST SAVES COSTS

ON OUR END, SO WE CAN PUT

MORE OF YOUR MONEY INTO THE

LIVES OF PEOPLE LIKE BALA.

OUR WAY OF SAYING THANK YOU,

IS TO SEND YOU "PSALMS OF

ENCOURAGEMENT."

PAT WENT INTO THE STUDIO AND

RECORDED THIS.

WE THINK IT WILL BE A

BLESSING TO YOU.

IT CERTAINLY HAS BEEN TO

STELLA.

SHE WRITES, "DEAR PAT, I'M

THANKFUL FOR THE MANY

BLESSINGS OF CENTS.

THE 'PSALMS OF

ENCOURAGEMENT' C.D. IS A

GREAT WAY TO HEAR THE WORD

OF GOD AND HEAR IT EVERY

DAY.

IT HELPS MY MIND, BODY, AND

SOUL AS I GO FOR CHEMO.

THANK YOU."

Terry: WHAT A

BLESSING.

TIME TO DO SOME E-MAILS.

THOMAS SAYS, "IS THERE A

RIGHT/WRONG WAY TO PRAY?

I HEAR SOME PASTORS TELUS

THE LORD WHAT YOU NEED.

AND OTHERS SAY THANK HIM AND

OTHERS SAY GIVE THE LORD

MONEY AND HE WILL BLESS

YOU.

I TRIED ALL OF THE WAYS, BUT

I FEEL LIKE MY PRAYERS HAVE

NOT BEEN HEARD.

IS IT POSSIBLE MY PRAYERS

ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING

FULFILLED?"

Pat: ALL PRAYERS ARE

WORTHY.

READ MARK 11.

THAT'S A DESCRIPTION OF HOW

TO HAVE MIRACLES.

JAMES SAYS, YOU ASK BUT YOU

DON'T RECEIVE BECAUSE YOU

ASK UPON YOUR LUST.

SO SOMETIMES WE'RE PRAYING

SELFISHLY AND THAT'S NOT THE

RIGHT KIND OF PRAYER.

BUT JESUS SAID WHEN YOU SAY

TO THIS MOUNTAIN -- I THINK

WHAT WE'VE GOT TO DO IS SAY

FIRST OF ALL WE COMMUNE WITH

GOD.

THAT'S WHERE YOU START.

HE SAID HAVE FAITH IN GOD.

YOU COMMUNE WITH GOD.

AND THEN HAVING BEEN TOUCHED

BY THE SPIRIT OF GOD, YOU

SPEAK FORTH THE WORD.

THE HOLY SPIRIT JOINS WITH

YOUR SPIRIT.

YOU AGREE TOGETHER WITH THE

LORD AND THEN YOU SPEAK INTO

THE SITUATION AROUND YOU.

YOU SPEAK TO THE DISEASE,

SPEAK TO THE MONEY, SPEAK TO

YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES.

INSTEAD OF SAYING, OH, GOD,

BLESS ME, BLESS ME, BLESS

ME.

YOU SAY, LORD, SHOW ME WHAT

IS TO BE DONE.

AND IN THE NAME OF JESUS, I

COMMAND THIS TO HAPPEN.

GET IN TOUCH WITH THE LORD

FIRST.

THAT'S WHERE YOU START.

Terry: MELANIE

SAYS, "HELLO, PAT.

I READ THAT ANY CHRISTIAN

CAN BAPTIZE SOMEONE ELSE

BECAUSE IT IS NOT ABOUT THE

PERSON BAPTIZING, BUT ABOUT

CHRIST.

WHO CAN PERFORM BAPTISM?"

Pat: MELANIE, I THINK

YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

I THINK ANY CHRISTIAN CAN DO

THIS.

I REALLY DO.

I THINK THE IDEA IS THE

PERSON IS BURIED WITH CHRIST

IN BAPTISM AND RAISED IN THE

NEWNESS OF LIFE.

IF YOU'RE THERE, HERE IS

WATER.

WHAT IS HINDERING ME TO BE

BAPTIZED.

I THINK ANY CHRISTIAN CAN

BAPTIZE.

Terry: THIS IS DOUGLAS

WHO SAYS, "ABOUT 10 TO 12

MONTHS AGO, MY WIFE TURNED

HER BACK ON RELIGION DUE TO

PERSONAL ISSUES.

I HAVE SINCE BEEN PRAYING

FOR HER FAITH TO BE RESTORED

AND STRENTHENED.

A FEW DAYS AGO SHE TOLD ME

SHE AWOKE IN THE EARLY HOURS

OF THE MORNING AND FELT THE

PRESENCE OF A MUCH-LOVED

DECEASED AUNT.

SHE SAW AND FELT HIS AUNT'S

ARMS AROUND HER.

HER AUNT TOLD HER SHE LOVES

HER VERY MUCH AND SHE MUST

TURN BACK TO JESUS.

COULD THIS BE A MESSAGE SENT

BY AN ANGEL?

AND IF SO, WHY WAS IT SENT

BY HER AUNT?"

Pat: I DON'T THINK

DEVILS WILL TELL ANYBODY TO

TURN TO JESUS.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT

CAME THAT WAY, BUT I THINK

THE MESSAGE WAS A GODLY

MESSAGE.

ALL I CAN SAY IS DO WHAT THE

MESSAGE TOLD YOU TO DO, TURN

BACK TO JESUS.

OKAY.

Terry: JACK SAYS, "THE

BIBLE SAYS TO PREACH THE

WORD OF THE KINGDOM TO THE

ENDS OF THE EARTH AND THEN

THE END SHALL COME.

SO THIS BRINGS ME TO MY

QUESTION: IT SEEMS LIKE THE

WORD IS BEING PREACHED TO

THE ENDS OF THE EARTH.

WHAT NEEDS TO BE FULFILLED,

IN YOUR OPINION, BEFORE THE

RETURN OF OUR BLESSED

SAVIOR?"

Pat: WE'RE VERY CLOSE.

THE BIBLE CENTERS ON ISRAEL

AND THE JEWS RETURNING TO

THE HOLY LAND, AND THE

RESTORATION THERE.

IT SAYS, "THIS GOSPEL OF THE

KINGDOM SHALL BE PREACHED IN

ALL OF THE WORLD FOR A

WITNESS, AND THEN THE END."

THE THERE ARE MANY, MANY

PEOPLE WHO STILL HAVE NOT

RECEIVED JESUS.

THERE ARE MILLIONS WHO HAVE,

BUT THERE ARE MILLIONS WHO

HAVE NOT.

SO THE PREACHING IS STILL

GOING ON.

BUT IT'S GETTING CLOSE.

WE'RE SEEING SIGNS OF THE

TIME.

BUT THE BIBLE SAYS, "OCCUPY

UNTIL I COME."

I THINK WE MAKE A BIG

MISTAKE SPECULATING ON THE

END OF THE WORLD COMING AND

SO FORTH.

JESUS SAID, "THE TIMES AND

THE SEASON THE FATHER HAS

KEPT IN HIS OWN POWER."

Terry: AND YOU ALSO SAY

TO WATCH ISRAEL?

Pat: WATCH ISRAEL, AND

THAT'S THE TIME CLOCK.

AND IT'S VERY CLOSE TO

MIDNIGHT.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S

POWER MINUTE FROM JEREMIAH

31: "I WILL REFRESH THE

WEARY AND SATISFY THE

FAINT."

THAT'S ALL OF THE TIME WE'VE

GOT.

TOMORROW, THEY'RE DEFINDER

IN THE CROSS-HAIRS OF ISIS.

IF YOU NEED PRAYER, I KNOW

YOU PRAYED EARLIER, BUT IF

YOU NEED FURTHER PRAYER, OUR

GUYS ARE ON THE PHONE WHO

LOVE GOD AND LOVE YOU.

IT IS A TOLL-FREE CALL.

DON'T HESITATE TO CALL.

SOMEBODY IS HERE WHO CARES

ABOUT YOU.

UNTIL TOMORROW, WE'LL SEE

YOU.

BYE-BYE.

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