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700 Club Interactive: Identity Crisis - October 22, 2014

A gay son’s journey to God, and a lesbian woman’s discovery that she’d been living a lie . . . find out how God helped two of his children discover their true identity. Read Transcript


Andrew: AN IDENTITY

CRISIS.

I NOTICED I WAS ATTRACTED

TO THE IMAGES OF BOTH MEN

AND WOMEN.

Andrew: -- LEADS TO

JAIL AND A DEATH SENTENCE.

I SAW THREE LETTERS AND A

SYMBOL, AND IT READ,

"H.I.V.."

Andrew: HOW ONE MAN

FOUND GRACE ON TODAY'S "700

CLUB INTERACTIVE."

Gordon: ON "700 CLUB

INTERACTIVE," WE USE

TECHNOLOGY TO PRAY FOR EACH

OTHER AND EXPLORE TOPICS

THAT MATTER TO YOU.

WATCH WHAT GOD IS DOING IN

THE WORLD TODAY.

Andrew: GOOD MORNING,

WELCOME TO THE SHOW.

IT SHOULD BE A SIMPLE

QUESTION: BOY OR GIRL?

ACCORDING TO LAWMAKERS, KIDS

TODAY AREN'T SURE.

IN CALIFORNIA THEY CAN NOW

CHOOSE WHETHER THEY FEEL

LIKE USING THE BOY'S OR

GIRLS' RESTAURANT, AND ONE

SCHOOL IN NEBRASKA IS

CALLING STUDENTS PURPLE

PENGUINS, INSTEAD OF GIRLS

AND BOYS.

Terry: THEY LOST ME ON

THAT ONE.

SO MUCH OF OUR IDENTITY

COMES FROM CHILDHOOD

EXPERIENCES, LIKE WHAT

HAPPENED TO CHRISTOPHER

UWAN.

AFTER VIEWING PORN AT AGE

NINE, HE BECAME SEXUALLY

ATTRACTED TO MEN.

MY PARENTS REALLY WANTED

TO HOLD ON TO OUR CHINESE

HERITAGE.

EVEN THOUGH WE WERE HERE IN

AMERICA.

Reporter: CHRISTOPHER

UWAN IS THE SON OF CHINESE

IMMIGRANTS.

ALTHOUGH HE WAS BORN IN THE

U.S., HE NEVER FELT LIKES HE

FIT IN WITH HIS AMERICAN

CLASSMATES.

THEY PICKED ON KIDS WHO

WERE DIFFERENT.

Reporter: HE WAS SMALL

FOR HIS AGE.

HE PLAYED PIANO AND WORKED

HARD IN SCHOOL, AND WASN'T

GOOD IN SPORTS, LIKE THE

OTHER BOYS.

YOU SHORTER AND I WORE

GLASSES.

I WAS A LITTLE MORE FEMININE

BECAUSE I WAS ARTISTIC, SO I

WAS PICKED ON.

Reporter: WHEN HE WAS

NINE YEARS OLD, CHRISTOPHER

SAW PORNOGRAPHY AT A

FRIEND'S HOUSE, AND THAT'S

WHEN HE STARTED THINKING

MAYBE HE WAS DIFFERENT.

THE IMAGES AWOKE

SOMETHING IN ME THAT I

DIDN'T KNOW WAS THERE.

BUT I NOTICED I WAS

ATTRACTED TO BOTH MEN AND

WOMEN.

Reporter: HE DECIDED HE

WOULD KEEP HIS FEELINGS

SECRET IN HOPES THEY WOULD

GO AWAY, BUT THEY DIDN'T.

ALL OF THESE FEELINGS

WERE BUBBLING UP IN ME, AND

I FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO GET

IT OUT SOMEHOW.

Reporter: WHEN HE WAS

ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD,

CHRISTOPHER STARTED GOING TO

GAY BARS.

I WAS DOING THAT

SECRETLY, BEHIND MY PARENTS'

BACK AND MY OTHER FRIENDS.

THEY DIDN'T KNOW.

I WAS BEING MORE SEXUALLY

ACTIVE AT THAT POINT.

Reporter: WHEN HE MOVED

AWAY FOR DENTAL SCHOOL, HE

DECIDED TO LET HIS SECRET

OUT AND LIVE THE HOMOSEXUAL

LIFESTYLE FULL ON.

AT THAT POINT I FELT LIKE

I COULD REALLY EXPRESS

MYSELF AND EXPLORE WHO I WAS

AND EXPLORE THESE FEELINGS

THAT I HAD KEPT HIDDEN FOR

SO LONG.

Reporter: THEN ONE DAY

WHILE AT HOME, HE TOLD HIS

PARENTS ABOUT HIS

SEXUALITY.

WORDS ARE NOT ENOUGH TO

DESCRIBE HOW I FELT WHEN HE

TOLD US HE WAS GAY.

I FELT ASHAMED AND BETRAYED,

REJECTED, DEVASTATED, AND

JUST FULL OF SORROW.

MY REACTION WAS THAT I

FEEL TOTAL HOPELESS AND I

JUST GIVE UP HOPE.

Reporter: THE TWO BEGAN

TO PRAY FOR THEIR SON.

HE WAS A DENTAL STUDENT BY

DAY, BUT BY NIGHT, HE WAS

GETTING DEEPER INTO

HOMOSEXUALITY AND DRUG

ABUSE.

I WAS TRAVELLING AROUND

THE COUNTRY AND DOING DRUGS

AND SELLING DRUGS, SO I WAS

MISSING MORE AND MORE

CLASS.

I REALLY THOUGHT I COULD

LIVE A DOUBLE LIFE AND HAVE

MY DRUG LIFE ALONG WITH MY

SCHOOL LIFE, AND NOT LET

THEM INTERFERE.

Reporter: IT WASN'T

LONG BEFORE THE TWO WORLDS

COLLIDED.

HE WAS EXPELLED FROM DENTAL

SCHOOL JUST FOUR MONTHS

BEFORE GRADUATION.

NOW THAT THEY EXPELLED

ME, I JUST COMPLETELY

CONSUMED MYSELF WITH LIVING

IN THE GAY COMMUNITY.

I BEGAN DOING WHAT I KNEW

HOW TO DO WELL, WHAT I KNEW

HOW TO DO BEST, AND THAT WAS

DRUG DEALING.

Reporter: H HE WAS

MAKING BIG MONEY AND HAVING

SEVERAL SEXUAL ENCOUNTERED

EACH DAY.

I WAS TREATED LIKE A

SUPERSTAR, AND I FELT LIKE I

WAS INVINCIBLE.

I FELT LIKE I WAS GOD.

Reporter: HIS PARENTS

REFUSED TO GIVE UP ON HIM,

EVEN THOUGH HE REFUSED TO

STAY IN TOUCH.

EVERY MORNING BEFORE I

STARTED MY DAY, I WOULD GO

INTO MY PRAYER CLASSES.

AND ONE OF THE PRAYERS WAS,

LORD, HAVE MERCY ON THIS

SON.

Reporter: THE ANSWER TO

THAT PRAYER CAME ONE DAY

WHEN THERE WAS A KNOCK ON

CHRISTOPHER'S DOOR.

I OPENED UP MY DOOR, AND

IT WASN'T ANYBODY I HAD SEEN

BEFORE.

BUT IT WAS 12 FEDERAL DRUG

ENFORCEMENT AGENTS.

RIGHT BEHIND ME, ON MY

KITCHEN COUNTER, WAS ALL OF

MY DRUGS.

THEY REALLY CAUGHT ME

REDHANDED.

AND I WAS CHARGED WITH THE

STREET EQUIVALENT OF

9.1 TONS OF MARIJUANA.

Reporter: THREE DAYS

AFTER CHRISTOPHER WENT TO

JAIL, SOMETHING IN A TRASH

CAN CAUGHT HIS ATTENTION.

I SAW SOMETHING OUT OF

THE CORNER OF MY EYE.

AND IT WAS A BOOK.

AND SO I STOPPED AND I BENT

OVER AND I PICKED IT UP.

AND IT WAS A GIDEON'S

BIBLE.

FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME I

OPENED UP THAT GOOD BOOK.

AS I WAS READING IT, I WAS

REALLY CONVICTED OF MY

REBELLION, NOT ONLY AGAINST

THE LAW AND AGAINST MAN, BUT

ALSO AGAINST GOD.

Reporter: CHRISTOPHER

LEARNED THAT THERE WERE

CONSEQUENCES TO HIS

ACTIONS.

SO THEY SENT ME TO THE

NURSE'S OFFICE.

AND AS I SAT IN THAT ROOM

AND LOOKED DOWN AT THIS

PIECE OF PAPER, I SAW THREE

LETTERS AND A SYMBOL.

AND IT READ "H.I.V.

POSITIVE."

Reporter: HE WENT BACK

TO HIS CELL, FEELING LIKE HE

HAD RECEIVED A DEATH

SENTENCE.

HE LAID DOWN AND LOOKED AT

THE GRAFFITI-COVERED BUNK

OVER HIS HEAD.

I NOTICED ONE THING

SCRIBBLED THERE BY SOMEONE,

AND IT READ, "IF YOUR BORED,

READ JEREMIAH 29: 11."

WHICH SAYS, "FOR I KNOW THE

PLANS I HAVE FOR YOU

DECLARES THE LORD.

PLANS TO PROSPER YOU AND NOT

TO HARM YOU."

AND AT THAT POINT WAS

PROBABLY THE DARKEST AND

MOST HELPLESS POINT IN MY

LIFE AFTER I WAS SENTENCED

TO 60 YEARS, AFTER I

RECEIVED NEWS OF MY H.I.V.

STATUS.

GOD GAVE ME ENOUGH FAITH

THAT NIGHT TO JUST SIMPLY

GET THROUGH THAT ONE DAY.

Reporter: CHRISTOPHER

RELIED ON GOD'S HELP TO GET

BY ONE DAY AT A TIME.

IT WAS DURING THIS

PROBABLY YEAR-LONG PROCESS

THAT I SURRENDERED MY LIFE

TO CHRIST, AND THAT I KNEW

THAT I NO LONGER WAS GOING

TO LIVE ACCORDING TO MY WAYS

AND ACCORDING TO THE WAYS OF

THE WORLD.

BUT SURRENDERING ALL OF MY

HOPES AND DREAMS TO HIM.

Reporter: AS HIS

RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD GREW,

CHRISTOPHER STRUGGLED TO

FIND JUSTIFICATION FOR HIS

HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE.

I TURNED TO THE BIBLE

ALONE, AND I WENT THROUGH

EVERY VERSE, EVERY CHAPTER,

EVERY PAGE OF SCRIPTURE,

LOOKING FOR JUSTIFICATION OF

HOMOSEXUALITY.

I NEVER FOUND ANYTHING.

SO I WAS AT A TURNING POINT,

AND A DECISION HAD TO BE

MADE.

IT WAS EITHER ABANDON GOD

AND HIS WORD TO LIVE AS A

HOMOSEXUAL BY ALLOWING MY

FEELINGS TO DICTATE WHO I

WAS, OR ABANDON

HOMOSEXUALITY BY LIBERATING

MYSELF FROM MY FEELINGS AND

LIVE AS A FOLLOWER OF JESUS

CHRIST.

MY DECISION WAS CLEAR AND

OBVIOUS, AND I CHOSE GOD.

Reporter: CHRISTOPHER

WAS RELEASED FROM PRISON

AFTER SERVING HIS SENTENCE.

TODAY HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH

HIS PARENTS HAVE BEEN

RESTORED.

HE IS AN INSTRUCTOR AT MOODY

BIBLE COLLEGE IN CHICAGO AND

LIVES EACH DAY WITH

PURPOSE.

NO PERSON HAS EVER BEEN

PROMISED WE WILL HAVE

TOMORROW.

YET MOST OF US LIVE WITH THE

EXPECTANCY THAT WE WILL HAVE

TOMORROW.

IT TOOK ME GETTING H.I.V.

THAT REALIZE I MUST LIVE

WITH THE SENSE OF URGENCY.

Reporter: AND HE NO

LONGER DEFINES HIMSELF BY

HIS SEXUALITY.

MY IDENTITY, AS A CHILD

OF GOD, MUST BE IN JESUS

CHRIST ALONE.

GOD WAS TELLING ME, DON'T

FOCUS UPON YOUR FEELINGS OR

UPON YOUR SEXUALITY, BUT

FOCUS ON LIVING A LIFE OF

PURITY.

BEING A CHRISTIAN IS NOT AN

EASY THING.

I MAY STILL STRUGGLE, BUT

GOD HAS GIVEN ME THE GRACE.

GOD HAS CLAIMED THE VICTORY

ON THE CROSS.

THAT THOUGH I MAY STILL HAVE

STRUGGLES, I'M NOT GOING TO

BE BOUND BY THEM.

Andrew: IT IS SO EASY

TO BECOME SEXUALLY BROKEN IN

THIS SOCIETY.

AND SO MANY HAVE REGRETS OF

PUTTING THEIR IDENTITY AND

WHAT'S GOING ON SEXUALLY IN

OUR LIVES WITH REGRETS WE

HAVE, WITH THINGS WE WISH WE

COULD DO OVER AGAIN, THE

DECISIONS THAT WE'RE

MAKING.

THE BIBLE SAYS WE ARE TO

LOVE THE LORD OUR GOD WITH

ALL OF OUR HEART, OUR SOUL,

OUR MIND, ON OUR STRENGTH.

THAT TAKES THE FOCUS OFF OF

US, OFF OUR MISTAKES, OFF

THE MESS WE MAY HAVE MADE IN

OUR LIFE, AND IT PUTS THE

FOCUS ON JESUS.

THE WONDERFUL PROMISE FROM

JESUS HIMSELF, "ALL WHO COME

TO ME, I WILL NEVER DRIVE

AWAY."

THE APOSTLE PAUL SAID THAT

WE CAN COME FEARLESSLY INTO

THE PRESENCE OF GOD BECAUSE

OF JESUS.

MAX PUT IT THIS WAY, JESUS

TAKES US BY THE HAND AND

WALKS US TO THE THRONE ROOM

OF THE HEAVENLY FATHER.

KING DAVID POINTED OUT THAT

THE LORD IS CLOSE TO THE

BROKENHEARTED, THAT HE SAVES

THOSE WHO ARE CRUSHED IN

SPIRIT.

PERHAPS YOU'RE CRUSHED

TODAY.

PERHAPS YOU'VE MADE CHOICES

YOU REGRET.

PERHAPS YOU'RE IN A

SITUATION THAT HAS YOU

CRUSHED.

FOCUS ON THE LOVE OF YOUR

HEAVENLY FATHER.

TAKE YOUR EYES OFF YOUR

CIRCUMSTANCES.

TAKE YOUR EYES OFF YOUR

RELATIONSHIPS.

EVEN JUST FOR A FEW MOMENTS,

AND FOCUS ON THE LOVE OF

JESUS.

COME FEARLESSLY INTO THE

PRESENCE OF GOD.

HE DELIGHTS IN RESTORING

BROKEN LIVES.

SOME OF THE WONDERFUL

PROMISES YOU EITHER NEED TO

LEARN OR BE REMINDED OF,

THAT GOD LITERALLY HURTLES

OUR INEQUITIES, HURTLES OUR

SINS INTO THE DEPTHS OF THE

SEA.

AND AS FAR AS THE EAST IS

FROM THE WEST, SO FAR HE HAS

REMOVED OUR TRANSGRESSIONS

FROM US AND REMEMBERS OUR

SIN NO MORE.

TAKE YOUR EYES OFF OF THE

FILT OF THE IDENTITY YOU MAY

HAVE CREATED.

YOUR FOUNDATION IS IN JESUS

CHRIST.

HE CREATED US.

TERRY, SO OFTEN WE OSE

SIGHT OF THE LOVE OUR

HEAVENLY FATHER HAS FOR US.

WE BASE THINGS ON OUR

CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND SOMETIMES WE FEEL TOO

BROKEN AND TOO DIRTY TO DO

WHAT PAUL SAYS, WHICH IS TO

COME FEARLESSLY INTO THE

PRESENCE OF GOD.

Terry: THE WORD SAYS

THAT SATAN IS THE FATHER OF

LIES.

HE TELLS US A LIE.

AND BECAUSE WE DON'T

RECOGNIZE IT IS HIM, WE

BELIEVE IT.

SO INSTEAD OF ACCEPTING OUR

IDENTITY AS CHILD OF GOD, IT

IS NOW I AM TERRY THE

MURDERER, I AM TERRY THE

ADULTEROUS, OR I AM TERRY

THE HOMOSEXUAL.

AND WE'VE TRADED THE

HERITAGE OF WHAT GOD WANTS

TO GIVE US FOR A MESS OF

POTAGE.

AND THAT'S THE LIE.

CHRISTOPHER SAID, I AM NO

LONGER DEFINING MYSELF BY MY

SEXUAL PREFERENCE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT'S A

KEY FOR ALL OF US WHO FIND

OURSELVES BOUND IN SIN.

I WANT TO BE A CHILD OF

GOD.

AND IF THAT BECOMES THE

PURSUIT, THEN EVERYTHING

ELSE IS SORT OF PUT INTO ITS

PROPER PERSPECTIVE.

Andrew: WHEN WE'RE IN

SIN, IT'S I'M ENGAGING IN AN

ACTIVITY THAT DOESN'T PLEASE

GOD, AND IT SUDDENLY BECOMES

I AM THIS.

Terry: UP NEXT, A

POLICE OFFICER STRUGGLES

WITH HER LESBIAN LIFESTYLE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF INNER

TURMOIL GOING ON.

I MEAN, THERE IS SOMETHING

ABOUT THAT THAT IS NOT

RIGHT.

IT'S NOT NATURAL.

Terry: WATCH HER

TURMOIL REACHES CRITICAL

CLASS AFTER THIS

DISTINGUISHED OFFICER IS

DEMOTED.

Terry: AS A CHILD,

DEBRA DEVELOPED AN INTENSE

FEAR OF MEN, AFTER SHE

WITNESSED HER FATHER TRYING

TO CHECK HER MOTHER TO

DEATH.

THAT FEAR FOLLOWED HER NO

ULTIMATELY PUSHED HER TO PUT

A GUN TO HER HEAD.

THERE WAS SUCH A SENSE OF

FEAR AND INSTABILITY IN OUR

HOME BECAUSE WE NEVER KNEW

WHEN HE WAS GOING TO BE

DRINKING.

Reporter: 10-YEAR-OLD

DEBRA KNEW WHEN HER FATHER

GOT DRUNK, HER MOTHER PAID

THE PRICE.

ONE NIGHT AS HER MOM'S

SCREAMS RAN THROUGH THE

HOUSE, IT ABRUPTLY STOPPED.

THERE WAS THIS SILENCE IN

OUR HOUSE, AND IT WAS AN

EERIE SILENCE.

IT WENT FROM ALL OF THIS

CHAOS TO JUST STILLNESS.

SO I GOT OUT OF BED, AND I

WALKED DOWN THE HALLWAY,

TOWARDS A LIGHT IN THE

KITCHEN.

I SAW MY 6' 2" FATHER

CHOKING THE LIFE OUT OF

HER.

I KNEW HE WAS KILLING MY

MOTHER.

Reporter: DEBRA GRABBED

A SKILLET AND HIT HER

FATHER.

DISTRACTED, HE STOPPED

CHOKING HIS WIFE AND TURNED

ON DEBRA.

AND HE PUNCHED ME AND

SENT ME INTO THE WALL.

Reporter: FINALLY HER

MOM DIVORCED HER DAD, BUT IT

LEFT DEBRA FEARFUL OF MEN.

THEY WEREN'T SAFE TO ME.

I FELT ABANDONED BY MY DAD.

SO I HAD NO RELATIONSHIP

WITH MEN.

I WAS SHUT OFF.

Reporter: FEMALES,

HOWEVER, INTRIGUED HER.

AS DEBRA GOT OLDER, SHE

BECAME SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO

GIRLS.

SO I STARTED TO STRUGGLE

WITH THOSE FEELINGS, THE

EMOTIONS.

THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION

GOING ON AS FAR AS MY

SEXUALITY.

I STARTED TO WONDER, YOU

KNOW, AND I THOUGHT I WAS

DIFFERENT.

Reporter: DEBRA STARTED

DATING WOMEN IN COLLEGE, BUT

SHE STRUGGLED WITH HER

CHOICE.

THERE WAS A LOT OF INNER

TURMOIL GOING ON.

THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT

THAT THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

IT IS NOT NATURAL.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS

GOING ON IN MY HEAD, IN MY

EMOTIONS.

Reporter: AFTER

COLLEGE, DEBRA BECAME THE

FIRST WOMAN TO MEET THE

PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS TO

BECOME A PATROL OFFICER IN

THE LAS VEGAS POLICE

DEPARTMENT.

AT THE SAME TIME, SHE

STEPPED DEEPER INTO HER

LESBIAN LIFESTYLE WITH A

WOMAN WHO ALSO WORKED AT THE

BUREAU.

SHE WAS PROMOTED UP THE

RANKS QUICKLY BECAUSE SHE

WAS SO GOOD AT HER JOB.

I'M THE PIONEER, SO I'M

PAVING THE WAY FOR ALL OF

THE WOMEN THAT ARE GOING TO

BE COMING BEHIND ME.

SO FAILURE WAS NOT GOING TO%-BE AN OPTION.

Reporter: BUT THERE

WERE SOME WHO WERE AGAINST A

FEMALE HOLDING THE TOP

SPOT.

IT WASN'T JUST ONE MAN.

THERE WERE SEVERAL.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THESE GUYS

WERE GOING TO BACK ME ON

CALLS.

I DIDN'T HAVE THAT TRUST

WITH THESE MEN.

IT PERPETUATED THAT FEAR I

HAD FROM MY DAD.

Reporter:

Reporter: SHE NEVER

SUSPECTED HOW FAR THEY WOULD

GO TO STOP HER.

ONE OF DEBRA'S SUBORDINATES

CAME INTO HER OFFICE

COMPLAINING ABOUT HIS JOB.

AND HE WAS WEARING A HIDDEN

TAPE RECORDER.

THEY GOT ME ON TAPE

SAYING, IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY

HERE, YOU CAN TRANSFER FROM

THE BUREAU.

Reporter: DEBRA PLACED

SUSPENSION AND POSSIBLE

DEMOTION.

SHE WAS PLACED ON

ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE.

I WAS SHOCKED.

REALLY?

HERE I AM, I'M A HIGHLY

DECORATED, DISTINGUISHED

OFFICER, AND I'VE BEEN ON

THE DEPARTMENT 18 YEARS.

IS THIS WHAT IT CAME TO?

Reporter: FACED WITH

LOSING EVERYTHING SHE WORKED

FOR, DEB TOOK HER GUN AND

CONSIDERED KILLING HERSELF.

IT WAS SO INTENSE.

THERE WAS PAIN, DEEP HURT.

THERE WAS ANGER.

THEY WERE GOING TO PULL THIS

OFF AND GET AWAY WITH IT,

AND I KNEW THAT.

NOT ONLY WAS I LOSING MY

CAREER, I WAS LOSING MY

IDENTITY.

MY IDENTITY WAS A POLICE

OFFICER.

Reporter: INSTEAD OF

PULLING THE TRIGGER, DEBRA

BEGGED GOD FOR HELP.

GOD, IF YOU'RE REAL, IF

YOU'RE REALLY GOD, I NEED

YOU.

AND I GOT DOWN ON MY KNEES

AND I JUST STARTED TO WEEP.

THIS LIGHT CAME IN, AND IT

WAS ALMOST LIKE WAVES OF

LOVE AND PEACE WASHING OVER

ME.

I'D NEVER EXPERIENCED THAT

BEFORE.

I WAS SO INTENSE, BUT IT WAS

SO COMFORTING.

AND I WAS COMFORTED.

Reporter: DEBRA

ACCEPTED JESUS CHRIST.

I SURRENDERED MY LIFE TO

HIM.

I SAID, OKAY, YOU CAN HAVE

ME.

Reporter: DEBRA BEGAN

READING HER BIBLE EVERY DAY

AND REALIZED SHE HAD TO TURN

AWAY FROM HER LESBIAN

LIFESTYLE.

AND I READ THAT

HOMOSEXUALITY IS SIN.

IT'S NOT GOD'S DESIGNMENT I

DESIGN.

I WAS SHOCK.

ED.

YOU MEAN, I'M NOT BORN THAT

WAY?

I BOUGHT THAT IT WAS A

GENETIC THING.

Reporter: WHEN THE

INVESTIGATION WAS OVER,

DEBRA WAS DEMOTED TO

SERGEANT.

SHE RELIED ON HER NEW FAITH

IN GOD TO ACCEPT THE

DEMOTION WITH DIGNITY.

I HELD MY HEAD HIGH, AND

I HAD SOMETHING I HAD NOT

HAD BEFORE, AND THAT'S

JESUS.

AND HE GAVE ME THE STRENGTH

TO GO BACK.

Reporter: AFTER 21

YEARS OF SERVICE, DEB LEFT

THE POLICE FORCE AND WROTE A

BOOK.

AND SHE NOW LEADS A WOMEN'S

BIBLE STUDY THAT FOCUSES ON

OVERCOMING DIVERSITIY

THROUGH JESUS CHRIST.

HE TURNED MY LIFE

AROUND.

MY LIFE TODAY WITH CHRIST IS

AMAZING.

Terry: GOD SAYS TO US,

MY WAYS ARE NOT YOUR WAYS,

NEITHER ARE MY THOUGHTS YOUR

THOUGHTS.

MY WAYS ARE HIGHER THAN YOUR

WAYS.

GOD DIDN'T WANT DEBRA TO

HAVE AN IDENTITY IN BEING A

POLICE OFFICER ANY MORE THAN

HE WANTED HER TO HAVE AN

IDENTITY IN HER HOMOSEXUAL

LIFESTYLE.

HE WANTED HER TO BE FREE IN

HIM, TO BE ALL HE CREATED

HER TO BE.

AND SHE SAID, I BOUGHT THE

LIE.

DON'T BY THE LIE TODAY.

THERE ARE SO MANY VOICES

THAT ARE CONSTANTLY TELLING

US WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR.

GO TO THE WORD OF GOD.

ASK HIM.

DO WHAT SHE DID.

GET DOWN ON YOUR KNEES AND

SAY, GOD, I WANT TO KNOW

YOU.

I WANT TO KNOW WHO I AM IN

YOU.

DON'T LOOK FOR AN IDENTITY

APART FROM HIM.

DON'T LOOK TO FIND THAT

EMPTINESS, THAT NEED TO

LOVE, THAT NEED TO BELONG,

THAT NEED TO BE LOVED FROM

ANYBODY BUT HIM.

THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS

WE CAN'T BE GOOD FOR ANYBODY

ELSE, WHETHER IT'S A SPOUSE

IN OUR LIVES, WHETHER IT IS

A SIBLING, A FRIEND, A

NEIGHBOR, UNTIL WE KNOW WHO

WE ARE IN HIM BECAUSE WE

WERE CREATED IN HIS IMAGE

AND HIS LIKENESS.

NOW, GOD HAS SOME VERY

DISTINCT THINGS THAT HE SAYS

IN HIS WORD ABOUT HIS

PERCEPTION OF SAME-SEX

ATTRACTION.

DEBRA SAYS IT, IT'S SIN.

AND SO WE CAN'T KNOW HIM AND

LOVE HIM AND BE HEALED AND

SET FREE BY HIM UNTIL WE

ACCEPT WHO HE IS AND WHAT HE

WANTS TO TEACH US AND TELL

US.

IT'S NOT -- WE DON'T COME TO

HIM TO GET HIM TO JUSTIFY

WHAT WE DO OR THE CHOICES WE

MAKE.

WE COME TO HIM TO SAY, GOD,

I WANT TO KNOW YOU.

I AM A SINNER.

WE ARE ALL SINNERS.

THE BIBLE SAYS THAT THERE IS

NOT ONE THAT IS WITHOUT

SIN.

BBT ONCE WE KNOW WE HAVE IT,

IT IS TIME TO DO BUSINESS

WITH IT.

SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU

TODAY, WHATEVER IT IS THAT

IS HOLDING YOU IN YOUR LIFE

IN A PLACE APART FROM GOD,

LET IT GO.

GIVE IT TO HIM AND TRUST

HIM.

HIS WORD SAYS HE IS ABLE TO

KEEP THAT WHICH YOU HAVE

GIVEN TO HIM.

HE IS ABLE TO PULL YOU FROM

DARKNESS INTO THE LIGHT, TO

SET YOU FREE FROM THE THING

THAT HAS YOU IN BONDAGE.

SOMETIMES IT STARTS WITH

UNLITTLE DECISION, AND THEN

ANOTHER AND ANOTHER AND

ANOTHER, AND PRETTY SOON

WE'RE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO

CONDONE THE CHOICES WE'VE

MADE.

ERASE THE SLATE.

THAT'S WHAT WE GET TO DO IN

JESUS.

YOU GET A NEW BEGINNING.

SO ERASE THE SLATE AND SAY,

GOD, TODAY YOU TELL ME WHO I

AM.

YOU SHOW ME WHO YOU CREATED

ME TO BE.

HE SAYS, I SAW YOU BEFORE

YOU WERE FORMED IN YOUR

MOTHER'S WOMB AND KNIT

TOGETHER ALL OF THE DELICATE

PARTS OF YOUR BEING.

HE KNOWS YOU BY NAME.

HE KNOWS YOU BY NAME.

AND HE WANTS TO HEAL YOU

TODAY.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE PRAYER FOR

HEALING, YOU CAN CALL THE

TOLL-FREE NUMBER THAT IS

GOING TO COME UP ON YOUR

SCREEN.

WHAT I WANT TO SAY TO YOU IS

SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE

RECEIVED JUDGMENT FROM THE

CHURCH WHEN YOU HAVE TRIED

TO REACH OUT.

TODAY YOU'RE GOING TO CALL A

NUMBER WHERE THERE IS A

FRIEND ON THE OTHER END OF

THE LINE.

A SINNER, JUST LIKE YOU AND

ME, WHO HAS FOUND GRACE AND

FORGIVENESS AND FREEDOM AND

A NEW IDENTITY IN JESUS

CHRIST.

I WANT TO TELL YOU, YOU CAN

CALL THAT NUMBER SAFELY,

SHARE YOUR NEED AND ASK FOR

PRAYER.

TODAY YOU CAN BEGIN THE BEST

PART OF LIFE THAT YOU'VE

EVER HAD.

YOU CAN BE SET FREE.

YOU CAN HAVE A WHOLE NEW

WALK.

1-888-777-1999.

CALL NOW.

OR YOU CAN LOG ON TO

cbn.com, BUT WITH OUR

SUBJECT MATTER TODAY, I

REALLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO

REACH OUT TO SOMEONE WHO IS

GOING TO LOVE YOU, NOT JUDGE

YOU, PRAY WITH YOU AND

BELIEVE WITH YOU TO BE SET

FREE.

WE ASKED OUR Facebook

FRIENDS IF THEY HAD ANY

QUESTIONS ABOUT IDENTITY

ISSUES.

ANITA WRITES, "WHAT CAN WE

DO FOR SOMEONE STRUGGLING

WITH SAME-SEX ATTRACTION?"

WE'LL ADDRESS THAT QUESTION

AND MORE WHEN WE COME BACK.

Andrew: WELCOME BACK.

WE'VE RECEIVED SOME

QUESTIONS ON OUR Facebook

PAGE.

LET'S GO OVER TO JESSICA.

ANDREW, WE HAVE A

QUESTION IN FROM ANITA, AND

SHE WRITES, "WHAT CAN WE DO

FOR SOMEONE WHO IS

STRUGGLING WITH SAME-SEX

ATTRACTION?"

Andrew: WE ARE CALLED

TO BE SALT AND LIGHT.

THERE IS A WONDERFUL PASTOR

IN CALIFORNIA, GREG LAURIE,

AND HE TALKED ABOUT US BEING

SALT AND LIGHT.

SALT BRINGS ABOUT THIRST,

AND IF WE'RE TRULY BEING

SALT, IT WILL MAKE PEOPLE

THIRSTY FOR CHRIST.

SOMETIMES WE GET SO CAUGHT

UP IN WHAT AM I GOING TO

SAY?

BUT WE NEED TO ACT IN

JESUS.

Terry: WHEN WE'RE

ACTING IN LOVE, WE NEVER

NEED TO BE AFRAID WE'LL

OFFEND SOMEONE.

THIS ONE SAYS, "MY NEPHEW

WAS RAISED IN A CHRISTIAN

HOME, BUT HAS EXHIBITED

HOMOSEXUAL TRAITS SINCE

EARLY CHILDHOOD.

DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE BORN

LIKE THIS?"

Terry: I DON'T THINK

PEOPLE ARE BORN LIKE THIS,

BUT I DO THINK WE'RE VERY,

VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO HAVING

BEHAVIORS AND EMOTIONS THAT

ARE IMPACTED ON US BY THINGS

THAT HAPPEN, EVEN IN VITRO.

I HAVE SEEN SOME PEOPLE SET

FREE FROM IDENTITY CRISIS

BECAUSE OF THINGS THAT

HAPPENED E IN VITRO.

ANXIETY AND STRESS IN A

MOTHER'S LIFE DURING

PREGNANCY.

SOMETIMES THE DESIRE FOR ONE

GENDER OF A CHILD OVER

ANOTHER AND THEN A

DISAPPOINTMENT SHOWN AT

BIRTH IN A DELIVERY ROOM.

WE ARE VERY FEARFULLY AND

WONDERFULLY MADE, AND I

THINK WE'RE IMPACTED BY

THINGS BEYOND WHAT WE KNOW

OR REALIZE.

I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IF

THERE IS ANYONE WHO WOULD

LIKE TO READ A REALLY GOOD

BOOK ON THIS, THERE IS AN

AUTHOR BY LEANN PAYNE, WHO

HAS WRITTEN A BOOK CALLED

"THE BROKEN IMAGE," AND IT'S

A GREAT PLACE TO BEGIN.

THAT ONE REALLY SPEAKS TO

THE ISSUE WE'VE TALKED ABOUT

TODAY.

Andrew: WE WANT TO

THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US

TODAY.

BE SURE TO SET YOUR D.V.R.SO

YOU WON'T MISS AN EPISODE OF

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

WE LEAVE YOU WITH THESE

WORDS FROM GENESIS 1: "SO

GOD CREATED MAN IN HIS OWN

IMAGE, AND HE CREATED THEM

MAN AND FEMALE."

THANKS FOR WATCHING, AND

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT TIME ON

"700 CLUB INTERACTIVE."

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