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The 700 Club - May 21, 2015

In their new book Kelly Tough, Jill and Erin Kelly share their family’s journey of faith in dealing with husband and father Jim Kelly’s battle with cancer. Plus, while Brian was serving a life sentence for murder, he thought his own life ... ... Read Transcript


IT WAS OVER.

MY FUTURE WAS GONE.

Wendy: 17 AND SERVING A

LIFE SENTENCE.

THE GOVERNOR HAD SAID, NO

LIFER WOULD BE PAROLLED,

EXEMPT IN A PINE BOX.

IT WAS LIKE GOD'S COMPASSION

EXPLODING IN THE DARKEST

MOMENT OF MY LIFE.

Wendy: PLUS...THE HALL

OF FAME QUARTERBACK IN THE

BATTLE FOR HIS LIFE.

HIS WIFE AND DAUGHTER SHARE

WHAT IT REALLY MEANS TO BE

"KELLY TOUGH."

ON TODAY'S "700 CLUB."

*

Pat: WELL, WELCOME,

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'VE

GOT A TREMENDOUS PROGRAM FOR

YOU, AND WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE

HERE WITH US.

HER FATHER CAME AND SAID, I

AM GOING TO KILL YOU.

WHAT A CHILLING THOUGHT.

OUR SPECIAL GUEST -- AND FOR

SECURITY REASONS, WE HAVE

NOT BEEN ABLE TO TELL YOU

ABOUT HER UNTIL NOW.

RIFQA BARY IS WITH US.

SHE IS IN THE GREEN ROOM,

AND SHE'LL BE WITH US

SHORTLY.

SHE IS THE YOUNG WOMAN WHO

FLED FROM HER MUSLIM FAMILY

AT THE AGE OF 16, FEARING

HER FATHER WOULD KILL HER

BECAUSE SHE HAD BECOME A

CHRISTIAN.

WHAT AN AMAZING TESTIMONY

THAT'S COMING UP ON "THE 700

CLUB."

Terry: BUT FIRST AND

THE NEWS, DESPITE PRESIDENT

OBAMA'S PROMISES TO DEFEAT

ISIS, THE RADICAL ISLAMIC

ARMY HAS WON ANOTHER VICTORY

AND NOW CONTROLS MORE THAN

HALF OF THE ENTIRE COUNTRY

OF SYRIA.

CAITLIN BURKE HAS THE

STORY.

Caitlin: SYRIAN

GOVERNMENT FORCES SAY THEY

WERE NO MATCH FOR ISIS

MILITANTS.

THE I.S. MILITANTS HAVE

TANKS, MORTERS, MISSILES,

AND HEAVY MACHINE GUNS.

THEIR WEAPONS ARE ADVANCED.

Caitlin: PALMYRA IS

NORTHEAST OF DAMASCUS, AND

FAR FROM THE MAJOR AREAS

CONTROLLED BY GOVERNMENT

FORCES.

"U.S.A. TODAY"

REPORTS ROBTV.CO OBSERVERS

IN BRITAIN SAY ISIS HAS

TAKEN CONTROL OF THE MAS

MAJORITY OF THE OIL AND GAS

FIELDS.

THERE ALSO IS THE ANCIENT

CITY, HOME TO HISTORIC

RELICS STILL BURIED

UNDERGROUND.

EXPERTS SAY THAT NOW THAT

ISIS HAS CONTROL, THEY WILL

LIKELY DESTROYED THE

ARTIFACTS.

THEY ALREADY DESTROYED

ARTIFACTS THAT PRE-DATED THE

FOUNDING OF ISLAM.

OUR NEXT MISSION IS TO

CONDUCT MILITARY ACTION WITH

SURGICAL PRECISION SINCE ANY

SHELLS LAUNCHED FROM PLANES

AND TANKS CAN BE INJURY

CIVILIANS.

Caitlin: ACCORDING TO

REPORTS, THE SYRIAN

GOVERNMENT INCREASED THE

NUMBER OF SOLDIERS IN

PALMYRA TO PROTECT THE

ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES.

BUT WHEN THE FIGHTING BEGAN,

MORE THAN 300 RESIDENTS

PLEDGED ALLEGIANCE TO ISIS,

HELPING THEM TAKE THE CITY.

KATCAITLIN BURKE, CBN

NEWS.

Pat: WELL, IT IS ONE

MORE TRAGEDY.

AND ANYBODY WHO IS AN

OBSERVER OF THE STATE OF THE

WORLD NOW IS JUST APPALLED

AT THE INACTION OF OUR

ADMINISTRATION.

IT IS JUST TERRIBLE.

AND WHILE ISIS IS WINNING

MORE VICTORIES IN SYRIA AND

IRAQ, OUR PRESIDENT IS

SAYING, WELL, THE REAL

PROBLEM IS THE FLOODING THAT

WILL TAKE PLACE AND THE

DANGERS OF GLOBAL WARMING.

GLOBAL WARMING IN THE MIDST

OF REVOLUTIONARY MILITARY

ACTION?

JON JES JES HAJOHN JESSUP

HAS THAT STORY FROM

WASHINGTON.

John: PRESIDENT OBAMA

CALLED CLIMATE CHANGE A

THREAT TO AMERICA'S NATIONAL

SECURITY.

IN A SPEECH TO COAST GUARD

GRADUATES IN CONNECTICUT, HE

SAID CLIMATE CHANGE IS

CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIAL

TENSION AND POLITICAL

INSTABILITY AROUND THE

WORLD.

President Obama:

CLIMATE CHANGE WILL IMPACT

EVERY COUNTRY ON THE

PLANET.

NO NATION IS IMMUNE.

I'M HERE TODAY TO SAY THAT

CLIMATE CHANGE CONSTITUTES A

SERIOUS THREAT TO GLOBAL

SECURITY, AND, MAKE NO

MISTAKE, IT WILL IMPACT HOW

OUR MILITARY DEFENDS OWN

COUNTRY.

AND SO WE THEE NEED TO ACT

AND WE NEED TO ACT NOW.

John: THE REPUBLICAN

CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE AND

HOUSE ARMED SERVICES

COMMITTEES CRITICAL

CRITICIZED THE PRESIDENTS

FOCUSES ON GLOBAL WARMING

WHEN ISIS IS ON THE MOVE.

> THE U.S. MILITARY IS

PLANNING AN UNPRECEDENTED

TRAINING EXERCISE CALLED

OPERATION HELM 15.

AND WITH POLLS SHOWING THE

TRUST IN THE GOVERNMENT AT

RECORD LOWS, THAT HAS MANY

FEELING UNEASY.

HAVE YOU HEARD OF THIS

MILITARY SPECIAL OPERATIONS

WITH AN EXERCISE CALLED

"JADE HELM?"

Reporter: SPECULATION

WHY THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO

TRAIN AMERICANS, RATHER THAN

MILITARY BASES, IS CAUSING

CRITICISM ACROSS THE

NATION.

TEXAS GOVERNOR, GREG ABBOTT,

HAS ASKED HIS NATIONAL GUARD

TO MONITOR IT.

WHAT IS "JADE HELM 15?"

IT IS MILITARY TRAINING

TAKING PLACE IN SEVEN

STATES, FROM SOUTHERN

CALIFORNIA TO TEXAS.

THE NATION'S ELITE SPECIAL

FORCES WILL PRACTICE

UNCONVENTIONAL WARFARE BY

OPERATING OUTSIDE THEIR

NORMAL SUPPORT SYSTEMS,

ADAPTING TO NEW TERRAIN, AND

WORKING WITH CIVILIANS TO

GAIN THEIR TRUST.

WHEN NEWS OF THE OPERATION

BROKE, THE PHONES INSIDE

TEXAS CONGRESSMAN LOUIE

GOMEZ'S OFFICE LIT UP.

DO WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

MARSHAL LAW?

IS OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

COMING IN AND GOING TO

PRACTICES IMPOSING MARSHAL

LAW ON TEXAS?

Reporter: IT BOTHERS

HIM THAT AS PART OF THE

EXERCISE, THE MILITARY IS

LABELLING TEXAS, UTAH, AND

SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AS

HOSTILE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY TAKING

AREAS OF OUR HOME COUNTRY,

THE UNITED STATES, AND

SAYING TEXAS IS HOSTILE,

UTILITY U UTAH IS HOSTILE,

AND SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IS

HOSTILE.

AND WE'VE GOT TO TAKE IT

BACK FROM THE HOSTILES.

Reporter: AND HE THINKS

IT IS NO COINCIDENCE THAT

THE "JADE HELM 15" MAP LOOKS

A LOT LIKE THE 2012

POLITICAL MAP.

SO-CALLED HOSTILE STATES ARE

RED.

IT IS FUELED BY THE FACT

THAT A VAST MAJORITY OF

AMERICANS SIMPLY DON'T TRUST

THE GOVERNMENT.

A LEVEL OF MISTRUST THAT HAS

PEAKED UNDER THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION, DRIVEN BY

WHAT MANY BELIEVE TO BE

VIOLATIONS OF THE

CONSTITUTION AND CIVIL

LIBERTIES.

> THIS IS WHAT AMERICANS

UNDERSTAND WAR LOOKS LIKE,

BUT CHERYL CHUMLEY, AUTHOR

OF "POLICE STATE U.S.," SAYS

"JADE HELM 15" IS

INTRODUCING A NEW TYPE OF

WARFARE.

WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN

IS SPECIAL OPERATION

SOLDIERS ARE GOING TO BE

DRESSED IN CIVILIAN CLOTHES,

DRIVING CIVILIAN VEHICLES,

AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE

TASKED WITH STRIKING UP

REPORTS WITH LOCAL

CITIZENS.

Reporter: IT IS A NEW

STRATEGY TO ROOT OUT

TERRORISTS.

IN "JADE HELM," CITIZENS ARE

PART OF THE EXERCISE.

WATCH OUT, BECAUSE THAT

GUY THAT STRIKES UP A

CONVERSATION WITH YOU AT THE

LOCAL 7-ELEVEN, IS HE A

"JADE HELM 15" PARTICIPANT?

IT KIND OF MESSES WITH YOUR

MIND A LITTLE BIT.

Reporter: JOSH ERNEST

SAYS SPECIAL FORCES MOVING

ABOUT COMMUNITIES WILL WEAR

ARM BANDS.

I FEEL CONFIDENT IN

EXPRESSING TO YOU, WITHOUT

HAVING A LOT OF DETAILS OF

THE SPECIFIC EXERCISES IS

THAT THE CIVIL LIBERTIES AND

CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF

AMERICAN CITIZENS WILL IN NO

WAY BE AFFECTED BY THIS

EXERCISE.

Reporter: CONGRESS

GOMEZ ISN'T WORRIED THAT THE

U.S. MILITARY IS GOING TO

ISSUE MARSHAL LAW, BUT HE IS

NOT HAPPY WITH THE

PRESIDENT.

WHEN MY OWN COMMANDER IN

CHIEF, THROUGH THIS

SUBORDINATES, IS JUST FINE,

FOR GAMES PURPOSES,

DECLARING AN ENEMY OF TWO OR

MORE OF YOUR STATES -- I'VE

GOT A REAL PROBLEM WITH

THAT.

THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST

INSENSITIVE, OUTRAGEOUS

THINGS THAT A MILITARY

COMMANDER COULD DO.

Reporter: CHUMLEY URGES

AMERICANS TO ALWAYS STAY

VIGILANT WHEN IT COMES TO

THE GOVERNMENT.

WHAT I LOVE MOST ABOUT

AMERICA IS THAT OUR RIGHTS

COME FROM GOD, AND NOT THE

GOVERNMENT.

WE NEED TO HOLD FAST TO THAT

PRINCIPLE BECAUSE ONCE THAT

IS GONE, YOU OPEN THE DOORS

TO MORE AND MORE GOVERNMENT

ENCROACHMENTS.

Reporter: JENNIFER

WISHON, CBN NEWS.

John: THANKS,

JENNIFER.

AND IN HEALTH NEWS, MORE

THAN A THIRD OF ADULTS IN

THE U.S. SUFFER FROM A

DANGEROUS COMBINATION OF

MEDICAL PROBLEMS THAT COULD

PUT THEIR HEALTH AT RISK AS

THEY GET OLDER.

THE CONDITION IS CALLED

METABOLIC SYNDROME, IT

INCLUDES HIGH BLOOD

PRESSURE, PROBLEMS WITH

CHOLESTEROL, INCREASED

LEVELS OF BLOOD SUGAR, AND A

WAISTLINE THAT IS TOO BIG,

AND THAT RAISES THE RISK OF

HEART DISEASES AND

DIABETES.

THE SHEAR NUMBER OF PEOPLE

WITH THESE PROBLEMS COULD

PLACE A HUGE BURDEN ON

AMERICA'S HEALTH CARE SYSTEM

IN THE FUTURE.

AND THE STUDY FOUND NEARLY

50% OF PEOPLE 60 AND OLDER

HAD THAT CONDITION.

Pat: THAT'S WHAT

EVERYBODY HAS BEEN TALKING

ABOUT, INFLATION -- NOT

INFLATION, BUT

INFLAMMATION.

AND THE INFLAMMATION GETS

INTO YOUR CELLS.

YOU DON'T SEE IT ON THE

SURFACE.

BUT IT IS CAUSING YOUR

ARTERIES TO GO BAD.

IT IS CAUSING THE

CAPILLARIES TO GO BAD.

IT MEANS YOU HAVE PERPETUAL

DISEASE INSIDE OF YOUR

BODY.

AND IT'S CAUSED PRIMARILY BY

THE DIET WE EAT.

THE CRAZY FAST FOOD.

TOO MUCH SUGAR -- WAY, WAY,

WAY TOO MUCH SUGAR.

THE SEDENTARY LIFESTYLE.

AND, OF COURSE, THE STRESS

OF MO MODERN LIVING.

ALL OF THOSE THINGS COUPLED

TOGETHER BRING TOGETHER

METABOLIC SYNDROME, AND I

AIN'T GOT IT, AND I DON'T

WANT IT.

Terry: NO.

Pat: I WILL NOT HAVE

IT.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: BY THE WAY, OVER

AT WALGREENS -- OR C.V.S. OR

ONE OF THE OTHERS -- THEY

HAVE THESE LITTLE ARM

BANDS.

YOU CAN PUNCH IN THE ARM

BAND AND IT WILL GIVE YOU A

READING OF YOUR BLOOD

PRESSURE AND THE WAY YOUR

HEART IS BEATING.

AND YOU CAN TELL -- BECAUSE

WITH THAT ME METABOLIC

SYNDROME, YOU CAN TELL WHEN

YOU LOOK AT YOUR BLOOD

PRESSURE.

IT COSTS YOU $50 OR $60 --

Terry: OH, YOU'RE

TALKING ABOUT BUYING ONE?

Pat: BUYING ONE.

AND EVERY DAY YOU CAN LOOK

AT IT.

I HAVE ONE, AND I KEEP IT

BESIDE WHERE I'M READING IN

THE MORNING AND I CAN LOOK

AT IT AND IT'S A LITTLE

THING THAT SAYS, OH, MAN,

YOU'RE HEALTHY.

CONGRATULATIONS.

AND YOU GO ON YOUR WAY.

TERRY?

Terry: COMING UP, SHE

MADE HEADLINES WHEN SHE RAN

AWAY FROM HOME BECAUSE SHE

FEARED HER FATHER WOULD KILL

HER FOR BECOMING A

CHRISTIAN.

NOW RIFQA BARY TELLS HER

STORY IN HER OWN WORDS, AND

THAT'S HAPPENING WHEN WE

COME BACK.

Pat: RIFQA BARY MADE

NATIONAL NEWS IN 2009, WHEN

SHE RAN AWAY FROM HOME.

WHY?

TO ESCAPE FROM HER MUSLIM

FAMILY BECAUSE SHE HAD

BECOME A CHRISTIAN.

WENDY GRIFFITH HAS MORE.

Wendy: WHEN RIFQA BARY

WAS 16, HER MUSLIM PARENTS

FOUND OUT SHE HAD RENOWNED

ISLAM AND BECOME A

CHRISTIAN.

THAT'S WHEN RIFQA RAN AWAY

FROM HOME AND TOOK REFUGE

WITH CHRISTIANS IN FLORIDA

SHE HAD MET ON Facebook.

SHE HAD HEARD STORIES OF

SO-CALLED HONOR KILLINGS FOR

THOSE WHO RENOUNCE ISLAM,

AND SHE FEARED IF SHE

RETURNED HOME, HER FATHER

WOULD TRY TO KILL HER.

THIS IS NOT JUST SOME

THREAT.

THIS IS REALITY.

THIS IS TRUTH.

Wendy: TODAY THE

22-YEAR-OLD COLLEGE STUDENT

TELLS HER REMARKABLE STORY

IN A NEW BOOK, "HIDING IN

THE LIGHT, WHY I RISKED

EVERYTHING TO LEAVE ISLAM

AND FOLLOW JESUS."

Pat: AMAZING STORY.

RIFQA BARY IS JOINING US

NOW.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU, PAT.

IT GREA IS GREAT TO BE

HERE.

Pat: YOUR FAMILY IS

MUSLIM.

AND WHAT DID THAT MEAN TO

YOU, BEING A MUSLIM, WHEN

YOU WERE A KID?

IT MEANT I LEARNED HOW TO

READ THE QURAN BEFORE I EVEN

LEARNED HOW TO TALK.

IT MEANT THAT I FASTED FOR

30 DAYS STARTING AT AGE 6 OR

7, NO WATER.

MY FAMILY CAME FROM A STRICT

AND DEVOUT MUSLIM FAMILY.

THE WAY I WAS RAISED, WE

LIVED AS IF THIS WAS THE AIR

WE BREATHED.

JUST AS MY LAST NAME IS

BARE BARE, WE ARE MUSLIM.

Pat: WHAT ABOUT YOUR

FATHER.

HE WAS AN EDUCATED MAN?

YES.

HE WAS A BUSINESSMAN.

AND HE SOLD JEWELRY, AND HE

WOULD TRAVEL MANY TIMES TO

THE UNITED STATES TO SELL

GEMS.

Pat: WHAT DID HE DO

WHEN HE CAME HOME?

HOW DID HE TREAT YOU AND

YOUR MOTHER?

WELL, THERE WERE TWO

SITUATIONS THAT HAPPENED

THAT CHANGED EVERYTHING FOR

ME AS A CHILD.

ONE WAS I WAS SEXUALLY

VIOLATED BY AN EXTENDED

FAMILY MEMBER.

AND THE OTHER -- IN THE SAME

YEAR, I WAS BLINDED BY MY

BROTHER IN MY RIGHT EYE.

Pat: HE THREW A TOY AT

YOU?

I KNOW.

IF THIS WERE TO HAVE

HAPPENED IN THE UNITED

STATES, THE ABUSER -- THE

SEXUAL VIOLATION WOULD BE

SEEN AS SHAMEFUL, AND YET IN

MY CULTURE, THE SHAME IS

CAST ON THE VICTIM.

Pat: A GIRL GETS RAPED

AND SHE IS AT FAULT?

THAT'S RIGHT.

Pat: WHY?

IT IS ALL ABOUT HONOR.

IT IS ALL ABOUT RETAINING

HONOR.

SO MY FAMILY LEAVES SLE SRI

LANKA IN ORDER TO RETAIN

HONOR.

AND MY FAMILY USES MY EYE

FOR THAT.

Pat: YOUR MOTHER WAS

APPARENTLY A VERY TALENTED

WOMAN.

SHE LEARNED ALL KINDS OF

SKILLS.

BUT DID YOUR FATHER BEAT HER

UP?

MY FATHER -- IT WAS MORE

OF A CULTURAL OPPRESSION.

SHE DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE.

AND I GOT MORE OF THE

BEATINGS THAN MY MOM DID.

Pat: DESCRIBE A

BEATING.

WHAT DID THEY DO TO YOU?

I REMEMBER BEING THROWN

AROUND.

I WOULD BE HAPPY AND JUST

JOYFUL, AND IF I WAS TOO

HAPPY, I REMEMBER MY FATHER

JUST BEATING ME TO THE POINT

WHERE I WENT FLYING ACROSS

THE ROOM.

Pat: YOU'RE JUST A TINY

THING.

IS HE A BIG GUY?

YES -- WELL, TO ME HE WAS

BIG.

EVERYBODY IS BIG TO ME.

Pat: THIS OPPRESSIVE

SYSTEM OF ISLAM, WHAT DID

YOU THINK YOU WERE PRAYING?

WAS THERE NO ESCAPE FOR YOU

AS A YOUNG WOMAN IN ISLAM?

REALLY, THERE WASN'T.

ALTHOUGH I GAVE MYSELF

COMPLETELY TO ISLAM.

THE MORE I WANTED FREEDOM,

THE MORE I GAVE MYSELF TO

IT.

AND YET IT WAS SO EMPTY.

AND I FELT LIKE I WAS CAGED

AND SUFFOCATING IN RULES.

AND I WANTED OUT.

Pat: SO YOU BEGIN TO --

YOU HAD A FRIEND, AND THE

FRIEND GOT TO YOU A CHURCH.

AND YOU WENT TO A CHURCH AND

BEFORE IT WAS FINISHED, YOU

WERE BAPTIZED.

THAT'S RIGHT.

LATER ON I ENDED UP BEING

BAPTIZED.

BUT ONE YOUNG BRAVE WOMAN IN

JUNIOR HIGH HAD THE COURAGE

TO ASK ME TO COME TO CHURCH

WITH ME.

SHE WAS A NORMAL CHRISTIAN,

AND GREW UP WITH CHRISTIAN

PARENTS.

AND AFTER HER INVITATION, I

WENT AND HAD A LIFE-CHANGING

ENCOUNTER WHERE I

EXPERIENCED THE LOVE OF GOD

THAT CAPTURED MY SPIRIT AND

LEFT ME CHANGED.

Pat: WELL, YOUR FATHER

FOUND OUT, AND WHAT DID HE

SAY TO YOU WHEN HE FOUND

OUT?

THAT'S RIGHT.

I COULDN'T HIDE IT FOR

LONG.

AFTER THAT ENCOUNTER AT

CHURCH, I WOULD HIDE MY

BIBLE.

LATE AT NIGHT I WOULD GO OUT

TO PRAYER MEETINGS WHEN MY

PARENTS DIDN'T KNOW.

I WOULD BE IN THE BATHROOM

JUST TO READ THE WORD OF

GOD, DO ANYTHING TO FEED MY

HEART.

BUT IT GOT TO THE POINT

WHERE IT COULDN'T BE HID

ANYMORE.

AND MY FATHER APPROACHED ME

AND SAID THAT -- TOLD ME

WHAT THE CONSEQUENCES WOULD

BE, WHICH WOULD BE DEATH.

Pat: SO HE WOULD KILL

YOU?

DID YOU THINK HE WAS

SERIOUS?

HE REALLY WAS GOING TO KILL

YOU?

I DID.

I FEARED FOR MY LIFE.

I DID NOT THINK I WOULD BE

ALIVE THE NEXT DAY.

I DID NOT PLAN ON RUNNING

AWAY.

I WAS PLANNING ON GIVING MY

LIFE TO JESUS.

Pat: WHY DIDN'T YOUR

FATHER KILL YOU?

IN A SICK WAY, IT WAS

LIKE HAVING MERCY ON ME.

AND MY MOTHER FOUND ANOTHER

BOOK, WHICH MADE HIM CUT

SHORT HIS BUSINESS TRIP TO

TAKE CARE OF ME.

MY DAD WANTED TO HAVE MERCY,

BUT WHEN THE MOSQUE GOT

INVOLVED, THERE WAS NO

ALTERNATIVE.

Pat: HE HAD TO KILL

YOU?

YES.

Pat: YOU WERE LIVING IN

AMERICA, AND YET A MUSLIM IN

AMERICA, WHO'S DAUGHTER

COMES TO JESUS, MUST GET

KILLED.

IS THAT THE RULE?

IT IS THE RULE.

Pat: THAT'S THE RULE?

YES.

Pat: AND IT'S AN HONOR

KILLING?

YES.

IN THE SAME WHY MY FAMILY

LEFT SRI LANKA, IN ORDER TO

RETAIN OUR IMAGE, AND NOW I

HAVE DONE THE DESPICABLE.

THIS IS THE ULTIMATE,

ULTIMATE SHAME FOR MY

FAMILY, THAT I PRAYED TO

OTHER GOD AND COMMITTED

MYSELF ESPECIALLY TO JESUS

CHRIST.

Pat: SO HOW DID YOU GET

OUT OF IT?

THROUGH GOD'S SOVEREIGNTY

AND MIRACULOUS WAY I WAS

CONNECTED TO -- FIRST I

RECEIVED A MESSAGE ON

Facebook BY A LADY NAMED

BEVERLY LORENS, WHO HAD NO

IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND

SIMPLY SAID SHE WAS PRAYING

FOR ME.

MY FATHER HAD CUT MY CELL

PHONE OFF AND I HAD NO WAY

TO CALL HER.

BUT I USED THE HOME PHONE

AND I CALLED HER AND SAID,

PLEASE PRAY IN THE FACE OF

DEATH I DO NOT DENY JESUS.

AND THROUGH THAT SHE

REALIZED THIS IS SERIOUS.

AND I ALERTED A FRIEND OF

MINE, BRIAN, THAT I WANTED

TO LEAVE.

AND SO THROUGH THEIR HELP, I

WAS ABLE TO ESCAPE.

Pat: WELL, ESCAPE LIKE

HOW?

HOW DID THEY GET YOU OUT OF

THERE?

DID THEY TAKE YOU TO ANOTHER

STATE?

YES.

I WROTE A LETTER TO MY

FAMILY WHILE THEY WERE

SLEEPING.

I SAID, JESUS CHRIST IS MY

LORD AND SAVIOR.

I REFUSE TO DENY HIM.

AND I PROPPED IT UP ON THEIR

BED AND I LEFT AND I HAVEN'T

LOOKED BACK SINCE.

Pat: YOU DIDN'T HAVE A

MONEY --

I HAD NO FOOD OR WATER

FOR THOSE COUPLE OF DAYS.

Pat: NO FOOD OR WATER?

NO.

I HAD NO MONEY, NOTHING.

Pat: BUT THEN THE LORD

SUSTAINED YOU?

HE DID.

EVEN DURING THAT BUS RIDE,

PSALM 68: HE IS A FATHER TO

THE FATHERLESS AND A

DEFENDER TO THE

DEFENSELESS.

AND HE SUSTAINED ME.

AND TODAY I LOOK BACK AND I

AM SO GRATEFUL FOR GOD'S

HAND IN MY LIFE.

Pat: DID I GET IT

RIGHT, YOU WERE

VALEDICTORIAN IN YOUR HIGH

SCHOOL, ALONG WITH ALL OF

THESE BEATINGS AND

EVERYTHING?

GOD IS GRAY.

GRACIOUS.

Pat: DID YOUR FATHER

EVER TELL YOU HE LOVED YOU

OR KISS YOU?

I CRAZED THAT.

AND THE MORE I GAVE MYSELF

TO ISLAM, IT WAS MORE

SAYING, I WANT MY DAD'S

APPROVAL.

AND I WANTED THAT HUG.

BUT IT GOT TO THE POINT

WHERE I DIDN'T WANT IT

ANYMORE BECAUSE IT WASN'T

THERE.

NO, AND I NEVER HAD MY DAD

HUG ME.

BUT I WAS SO AFRAID HIM,

THAT I DIDN'T WANT HIM TO.

Pat: YOU GOT AWAY.

DID THEY PUT THE AUTHORITIES

AFTER YOU TO TRY TO GET YOU

BACK INTO THEIR CONTROL?

THEY DID.

IT WAS A YEAR-LONG BATTLE,

AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF MANY

BROTHERS AND SISTERS PRAYING

FOR ME, IT WAS A TOUGH

FIGHT.

THE ENTIRE TIME MY PARENTS

WERE TRYING TO GAIN

CUSTODY.

BUT THROUGH GOD'S MERCY AND

GOODNESS, I WAS ABLE TO AGE

OUT OF THE SYSTEM AND I'M

HERE TODAY.

Pat: WERE YOU IN A

FOSTER HOME?

YES, I WAS.

I WAS IN MANY, MANY HOMES.

I MOVED AROUND QUITE A BIT.

Pat: BUT YOU FINALLY

WON A COURT BATTLE.

IT HAD TO DO WITH -- ONCE

YOU'RE 18, YOU'RE OUT OF THE

SYSTEM?

THAT'S RIGHT.

EVERYTHING IS OVER.

ALL OF THE MOTIONS THAT HAVE

BEEN FILED ARE NOW CLOSED

BECAUSE NOW I'M 18.

Pat: BUT YOUR FATHER

STILL HAS TO KILL YOU.

WHAT ABOUT YOUR OLDER

BROTHER?

DOES HE HAVE TO DO THE SAME

THING?

YOU KNOW, MY BROTHER, I

PRAY FOR HIM AND I ACHE FOR

HIM.

BUT THE SAME THREAT IS THERE

ON MY BROTHER AND MY DAD.

BUT I FEAR FOR MY FATHER THE

MOST.

Pat: YOU DON'T TELL

PEOPLE WHERE YOU ARE.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL

WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL OR

ANYTHING.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I CAN'T.

Pat: BECAUSE THEY WILL

TRY TO FIND YOU AND KILL

YOU?

I CAN'T.

THAT'S RIGHT.

Pat: THAT'S A HORRIBLE

THOUGHT.

HOW DO YOU BEAR UNDER THAT?

THERE IS A PART WHERE I

ENDED UP GOING TO JAIL, AND

I SHARE ABOUT THAT IN MY

BOOK.

DURING THAT TIME, I WAS

SITTING THERE AND GOD JUST

CAME TO ME.

I REMEMBER WEEPING,

THINKING, WHY AM I HERE?

AND HE SAID, WILL YOU SING

TO ME.

AND THERE IS SOMETHING IN

THAT MOMENT WHERE I STARTED

SINGING AND REALIZING THAT

THERE IS NOTHING THAT MEN

CAN DO TO ME.

THEY CAN KILL MY BODY, TAKE

MY BODY, BUT THEY CAN'T TAKE

MY SOUL.

AND I STARTED SINGING "HEART

OF WORSHIP," AND I HAVEN'T

STOPPED, KNOWING THAT GOD IS

WORTHY OF EVERYTHING.

Pat: AMEN.

RIFQA, YOU'RE A COURAGEOUS,

FANTASTIC LADY.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LORD

HAS FOR YOU IN THE FUTURE?

YOU KNOW, PAT, I HAVE A

SUCH A HEART FOR JUSTICE AND

FOR PEOPLE IN SIMILAR

SITUATIONS LIKE MINE.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS

GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE

FUTURE, BUT I'M STUDYING

PHILOSOPHY AND REALLY HOPING

I GET TO GO TO LAW SCHOOL

ONE DAY.

Pat: WE'VE GOT ONE

HERE.

I'LL PUT IN A GOOD

RECOMMENDATION.

THANK YOU.

Pat: THE BOOK IS CALLED

"HIDING IN THE LIGHT."

WHERE CAN GET IT?

IF YOU GO TO -- THERE IS

AMAZON, WAL-MART HAS IT, AND

BARNBARNES & NOBLE.

Pat: I PRAY -- THE LORD

HAS KEPT YOU THIS FAR, AND I

PRAY HE KEEPS YOU.

THANK YOU, PAT.

Pat: TERRY, A

COURAGEOUS LADY.

Terry: UNBELIEVABLY

SO.

> UP NEXT, HE WAS JUST 16

WHEN THE POLICE PICKED HIM

UP FOR A GANG MURDER.

THE DETECTIVE, HE TURNED

AROUND AND HE TOLD ME, YOU

BETTER TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT

THEM STREETS, BOY, BECAUSE

YOU'LL NEVER SEE THEM

AGAIN.

I WAS REGRETTING THAT I ONLY

LIVED 16 YEARS AND IT WAS

OVER.

I WAS REGRETTING THAT I

WOULD DIE A SLOW DEATH IN

PRISON.

Terry: WATCH HOW THIS

GANG-BANGER GOT A SECOND

CHANCE BEHIND BARS.

Pat: JUST A FEW DAYS

AGO IN THE NEWS, THERE WAS A

STORY ABOUT A COUPLE OF

RIVAL PIK BIKER GANGS THAT

BEGAN SHOOTING EACH OTHER.

THE POLICE SAID IT WAS THE

WORST SLAUGHTER THEY HAD

SEEN.

A NUMBER OF PEOPLE DEAD, A

NUMBER WOUNDED, AND ABOUT

180 OR SO ARRESTED.

IT WAS A HIDEOUS PROBLEM.

BECAUSE TWO BIKER GANGS WERE

FIGHTING ABOUT TURF.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK

THEY STARTED IN THE PARKING

LOT, AND THAT IS WHAT LED TO

ALL OF THIS VIOLENCE.

BRIAN WHARF LOVED THE GANG

LIFE.

AT 16, IT GAVE HIM A SENSE

OF HONOR AND STATUS.

HE HAD THIS COLORS AND HE

WAS A BIG SHOT.

AND ALL OF IT CHANGED WHEN

BRIAN'S BROTHER WAS MURDERED

BY A RIVAL GANG MEMBER.

AND AFTER THAT, FOR BRIAN,

BELONGING TO A GANG BECAME

ALL ABOUT DRAWING BLOOD.

WE WOULD PARTY ALL DAY

LONG.

WE WOULD GET HIGH.

WE WOULD GET DRUNK.

AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE

WOULD HAVE TO WATCH OUT FOR

PEOPLE BEING SHOT AT.

WE WERE JUST TRYING TO STAY

ALIVE.

I GREW UP IN LOS ANGELES,

CALIFORNIA, WHERE THE GANG

LIFE WAS PART OF THE EVERY

DAY SWING OF THINGS.

I WOULD WATCH ALL OF THE

OLDER GANG MEMBERS GET HIGH

OR DRUNK OR COME TO THE

HOUSE AND PARTY.

I REMEMBER THEY WOULD FEED

ME, TAKE CARE OF ME, AND

EVENTUALLY I

DEVELOPED, LIKE, A LOVE FOR

THEM THAT I WANTED TO PLEASE

THEM.

AS I GOT INTO ABOUT 12 OR 13

YEARS OLD, IT BECAME A SENSE

OF HONOR TO BELONG TO A

GANG.

WHEN PEOPLE SAW ME,THEY

DIDN'T JUST SEE ME AS AN

INDIVIDUAL, THEY SAW THE

BADNESS OF MY GANG.

SO THEY STARTED TO FEAR ME.

AND IT WAS THE GANG LIFE

THAT RIPPED MY FAMILY

APART.

MY OLDEST BROTHER, AT THE

AGE OF 15, WAS MURDERED BY A

GANG MEMBER.

I SHOT AT THE AGE OF 14

YEARS OLD IN A GANG-RELATED

SHOOTING.

I WAS FILLED WITH ANGER.

ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT WAS

REVENGE.

I SKIPPED SCHOOL ONE DAY,

AND WE WENT CRUISING

AROUND.

AND WE SAW SOME GANG

GRAFFITI ON THE WALL FROM

OUR RIVAL GANG MEMBERS.

WE SAID TO OURSELVES, LET'S

GO SPRAY PAINT ON THE WALL

AND DISRESPECT THEM.

WE LEFT TO GO GET A CAN OF

SPRAY PAINT.

AND BY THE TIME WE CAME

BACK, THERE WAS GANG MEMBERS

ON THE STREET.

WE CHANGED OUR MIND.

WE STARTED DRIVING AWAY.

BUT AS WE WERE DRIVING AWAY,

THE QUESTION WAS POSED,

SHOULD WE SHOOT AT THEM?

AND I SAID YES.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY

DIED.

THE NEXT MORNING I WOKE UP

TO SOMEBODY BANGING ON MY

DOOR.

IT WAS THE SHERIFF'S

DEPARTMENT.

THEY BANGED ON THE DOOR,

TOLD ME TO GET DOWN, THEY

HANDCUFFED ME AND ESCORTED

METHROUGH THE LIVING ROOM.

I CAN STILL REMEMBER MY

GRANDMOTHER SITTING DOWN IN

THE CORNER, WITH TEARS IN

HER EYES, AS SHE CRIED OUT,

"WHAT DID YOU DO?"

I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO

RESPOND, SO I PUT MY HEAD

DOWN AND CONTINUED TO WALK

THROUGH THE HOUSE.

THEY PUT MEIN THE BACK OF

THE COP CAR AND THEY BEGAN

TO DRIVE OFF.

THE DETECTIVE, HE TURNED

AROUND AND HE TOLD ME, YOU

BETTER TAKE A GOOD LOOK AT

THOSE STREETS, BOY, BECAUSE

YOU'LL NEVER SEE THEM

AGAIN.

I LOOKED AT THE PEOPLE GOING

TO SCHOOL OR TO WORK, AND

FOR THEM IT WAS THE START OF

ANOTHER NORMAL DAY.

BUT FOR ME IT WAS THE

BEGINNING OF THE END.

THEY TOOK ME TO THE POLICE

STATION AND BOOKED ME FOR

ONE MURDER AND ONE ATTEMPTED

ATTEMPTED MURDER.

AND A YEAR LATER, AT THE AGE

OF 17 YEARS OLD, THE JUDGE

SENTENCED ME TO PRISON FOR

LIFE.

THIS TIME THEY PUT ME IN A

ONE-MAN CELL IN THE L.A.

COUNTY JAIL.

IT WAS OVER.

MY FUTURE WAS GONE.

I HAD SACRIFICED MYSELF FOR

MY GANG.

IT WAS LIKE I WAS DEAD, BUT

I WAS STILL ALIVE.

I REMEMBER BEING IN MY

ONE-MAN CELL AND MY FACE WAS

PRESSED AGAINST MY KNEES

BECAUSE I REALIZED I WAS

NEVER GOING TO BE A HUSBAND,

I WAS NEVER GOING TO BE A

FATHER.

ALL OF A SUDDEN I BEGAN TO

REGRET THAT I DIDN'T LISTEN

TO MY PARENTS, THAT I DIDN'T

GO HOME WHEN I SHOULD HAVE

WENT HOME.

I WAS REGRETTING THAT I ONLY

LIVED 16 YEARS AND IT WAS

OVER.

I WAS REGRETTING I WOULD DIE

A SLOW DEATH IN PRISON.

AS I SAT THERE IN MY ONE-MAN

CELL, I HEARD A NOISE AND

THE HALLWAY.

AND I LOOKED, AND IT WAS AN

ELDERLY MAN PASSING OUT

CHRISTIAN LITERATURE.

AND I WAS STILL MAD AT THE

WORLD.

I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK TO

ANYBODY.

BUT THIS OLD MAN, HE KIND OF

BARGED INTO MY DARKNESS.

HE STOOD THERE AND HE DID

SOMETHING I'LL NEVER

FORGET.

HE HAD THE COURAGE TO REACH

THROUGH THE DARKNESS OF THE

BARS.

HE GRABBED MY HAND AND HE

SAID A QUIET PRAYER OVER ME

IN THE NAME OF JESUS

CHRIST.

IT WAS LIKE GOD'S COMPASSION

EXPLODING IN THE DARKEST

MOMENT OF MY LIFE.

I DIDN'T FEEL ALONE.

I FELT THAT GOD REACHED OUT

TO ME.

I GOT DOWN ON MY KNEES, AND

AS A BROKEN TEENAGER, I

CRIED OUT TO GOD.

IT WASN'T EASTERN A PRAYER.

IT WAS A GROAN FROM THE

DEPTHS OF MY HEART.

AND NOT TOO LONG AFTER THAT,

GOD GAVE ME A VISION.

HE SAID, BRIAN, IF YOU SERVE

ME AND DON'T GIVE UP,

EVENTUALLY I'LL RELEASE YOU

FROM THIS LIFE SENTENCE TO

IMPACT THE WORLD WITH THE

GOSPEL.

GOD SENT OTHER PEOPLE IN MY

LIFE TO HELP MENTOR ME AND

DISCIPLE ME IN THE WORD OF

GOD.

AND GOD BEGAN TO RESTORE MY

LIFE.

AT THE SAME TIME, I MARRIED

MY CHILDHOOD SWEETHEART AND

MY WIFE BEGAN TO FIGHT FOR

MY FREEDOM.

THE GOVERNOR HAD SAID NO

LIFER WILL BE PAROLLED,

EXCEPT IN A PINE BOX.

I WAS DENIED PAROLE FIVE

TIMES BY THE CALIFORNIA

GOVERNORS.

I ACTUALLY CAME TO A PLACE

IN MY WALK WHERE I TOLD GOD,

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF I GO

HOME OR I DIE IN PRISON, I'M

GOING TO SERVE YOU NO MATTER

WHAT.

ABOUT A YEAR AFTER I MADE

THAT COMMITMENT, AFTER 16

YEARS IN THE DARKNESS OF

PRISON, I WALKED OUT A FREE

MAN AND WAS RESTORED TO MY

FAMILY.

I'M AMAZED AT HOW GOD HAS

TURNED MY STORY AROUND.

I DON'T DESERVE TO BE

LOOKING AT THIS BLUE SKY.

I DESERVE DEATH.

BUT BY THE GRACE OF GOD,

TODAY I'M A FATHER, I'M A

HUSBAND.

TODAY I GET THE AWESOME

PRIVILEGE OF PASTORING AN

AWESOME CHURCH THAT

IMPACTING HUNDREDS OF

THOUSANDS OF LIVES.

I'M GRATEFUL FOR EVERY

BREATH I TAKE OUT HERE.

HE BROUGHT THIS BROKEN,

16-YEAR-OLD BOY FROM

HOPELESSNESS TO A LIFE OF

HOPE AND PURPOSE.

I'M ABLE TO LIFT UP MY HEAD

NOW BECAUSE OF THE

FORGIVENESS AND FREEDOM THAT

I HAVE IN JESUS.

MY PAST NO LONGER HAUNTS

ME.

GOD SET ME FREE.

Pat: FROM HOPELESSNESS

TO HOPE AND PURPOSE.

FOLKS, THERE ARE MANY OF YOU

WHO FEEL HOPELESS.

MANY OF YOU FEEL, WHAT AM I

DOING?

WHAT AM I WORTH?

WHY AM I HERE?

YOU'VE ASKED YOURSELF AND

YOU'VE ASKED GOD, GOD, I'M

FAILING YOU; I'M NOT GOD FOR

ANYTHING.

GOD SAYS, YOU DON'T

UNDERSTAND.

I CREATED YOU IN MY IMAGE,

TO RADIATE AND RECEIVE MY

GLORY, AND I HAVE A SPECIAL

PLAN JUST FOR YOU.

GOD WILL REVEAL IT TO YOU IF

YOU'LL GIVE HIM THE CHANCE.

AND HE'LL LEAD YOU INTO WAYS

OF GOODNESS AND BLESSING YOU

DIDN'T REALIZE WERE

POSSIBLE.

BUT IF YOU WANT THAT NOW, I

WANT YOU TO DO SOMETHING.

I WANT YOU TO BOW YOUR HEAD

RIGHT NOW, WHEREVER YOU ARE,

AND LET THE LORD TAKE OVER.

THESE WORDS -- SAY THEM WITH

ME, WOULD YOU PLEASE?

SAY THEM WITH ME.

LORD GOD -- THAT'S RIGHT.

LORD GOD, I'VE SINNED

AGAINST YOU.

I'VE VIOLATED YOUR LAWS.

I'VE BROKEN YOUR

COMMANDMENTS.

I'M SORRY, LORD.

AND I ASK YOU TO FORGIVE

ME.

BECAUSE WITH YOU I KNOW

THERE IS ABUNDANT

FORGIVENESS.

AND SO I ASK, LORD, TAKE MY

LIFE, MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT

YOU CAN USE.

IN THE MEANTIME, I AM

YOURS.

I AM YOURS.

I AM YOURS.

AND I THANK YOU THAT YOU'VE

HEARD MY PRAYER.

THANK YOU, LORD, EN JESUS'

NAME.

AMEN.

WELL, NOW, IF YOU PRAYED

WITH ME, I WANT TO GIVE YOU

SOMETHING.

IT'S A LITTLE BOOKLET

CALLED -- WE'VE BEEN PUTTING

IT OUT FOR A LONG, LONG

TIME.

THIS IS "A NEW DAY."

WHAT DO YOU BEGIN WITH A NEW

DAY?

THAT'S WHAT IT IS ALL

ABOUT.

IT WILL TELL YOU ABOUT WHAT

IT MEANS TO BE BORN AGAIN,

WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE AN

EXCHANGED LIFE.

I'LL GIVE THAT TO YOU FREE

IF YOU JUST CALL IN.

IF YOU PRAYED WITH ME,

PLEASE CALL.

I WANT YOU TO SOLIDIFY THAT

DECISION YOU JUST MADE.

YOU'RE WATCHING "THE 700

CLUB."

WE'VE GOT TREMENDOUS THINGS

COMINGCOMING UP FOR YOU,

AND TERRY IS GOING TO TELL

US ABOUT ONE OF THEM.

Terry: JIM KELLY WAS

KNOWN AS THE TOUGHEST

QUARTERBACK IN THE NFL.

HIS WIFE, JILL, AND HIS

DAUGHTER TELL WHAT I IT

MEANS TO BE "KELLY TOUGH."

THAT'S LATER ON "700 CLUB."

WELCOME BACK TO "THE 700

CLUB."

THE DEATH TOLL IS STILL

RISING IN A LANDSLIDE THAT

DESTROYED MOST OF THE TOWN

OF SALGAR IN NORTHWESTERN

COLOMBIA.

THE LANDSLIDE HIT THE TOWN

LATE MONDAY NIGHT WHILE MOST

PEOPLE WERE SLEEPING.

78 PEOPLE ARE CONFIRMED

DEAD, BUT THERE ARE FEARS

THAT NUMBER COULD GROW.

AT LEAST 100 PEOPLE REMAIN

UNACCOUNTED FOR, AND

AUTHORITIES ARE STILL

SEARCHING FOR BODIES AND

HELPING SURVIVORS AT

MAKESHIFT SHELTERS.

Through Translator: IN

GENERAL TERMS, THE

ASSISTANCE HAS BEEN REALLY

POSITIVE.

THE PEOPLE, THANKS TO GOD,

HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND

SHELTER.

AS FAR AS THE TRAGEDY, THERE

ARE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE

WHAT ONE IS FEELING.

Wendy: COLOMBIA'S

RUGGED TOPOGRAPHY HAS MADE

THE COUNTRY ONE OF THE MOST

DISASTER-PRONE IN

LATIN-AMERICA.

> TRIBAL MUSLIMS HAVE

KILLED MORE THAN 70

CHRISTIANS IN A STATE IN

NIGERIA IN RECENT WEEKS.

FALANI HERDSMEN ATTACKED

MORE THAN EIGHT VILLAGES.

IN THE WORST ATTACK, MUSLIMS

BURNED DOWN A CHURCH AND

KILLED 27 PEOPLE, INCLUDING

THE PASTOR AND HIS WIFE.

MANY VILLAGERS ARE AFRAID TO

RETURN TO THEIR HOMES, BUT

SOME SAY THEY WILL REMAIN

AND BE A WITNESS FOR

CHRIST.

> AND YOU CAN ALWAYS GET

THE LATEST FROM CBN NEWS BY

GOING TO OUR WEBSITE AT

CBNNEWS.COM.

PAT AND TERRY WILL BE BACK

WITH MORE OF "THE 700 CLUB"

RIGHT AFTER THIS.

Terry: THE BRUTAL

POUNDING TAKEN BY AN NFL

QUARTERBACK LIKE JIM KELLY

WAS NOTHING COMPARED TO THE

BRUTAL ONSLAUGHT OF

CHEMOTHERAPY AND RADIATION

HE HAS HAD TO ENDURE.

JIM HAD ONE IDEA OF WHAT

LIFE WOULD BE LIKE FOR HIM

WHEN HER RETIRED FROM THE

NFL, BUT THE REALITY WAS

SOMETHING ALL TOGETHER

DIFFERENT.

Reporter: THROUGHOUT

HIS CAREER AS AN NFL

QUARTERBACK, JIM KELLY

TACKLED ADVERSITY WITH THE

MINDSET TO NEVER GIVE IT

UP.

HE CALLED IT "KELLY TOUGH,"

A MODEL AND PHILOSOPHY HIS

WIFE AND CHILDREN ALSO LIVED

BY.

BUT HAVING FACED MANY

DIFFICULT TRIALS OVER THE

YEARS, THE LOSS OF THE

COUPLE'S 8-YEAR-OLD SON,

HUNTER, AND JIM'S TWO RECENT

BOUTS WITH CANCER, THE

FAMILY HAS LEARNED THAT

DETERMINATION ALONE ISN'T

ENOUGH.

IN THE BOOK, "KELLY TOUGH,"

TOUGH," JIM'S OLDER DAUGHTER

AND FAMILY SHARE HOW THEY

FOUND A TRUE FAMILY IN THEIR

WEAKNESS.

Terry: IT IS NICE TO

HAVE BOTH OF YOU WITH US.

LET ME ASK YOU FIRST, HOW

JIM IS DOING TODAY?

HE IS DOING GOOD.

IT IS INTERESTING, THIS

JOURNEY -- ONCE THE CANCER

COMES INTO YOUR LIFE, IT

DOESN'T SEEM TO EVERY GO

AWAY, BUT OBVIOUSLY CHRIST

IS BIGGER THAN CANCER.

EVERY THREE MONTHS HE GETS A

SCAN, AND THE CANCER HAS

BEEN CLEAR.

BECAUSE OF WHERE THE CANCER

WAS, IN HIS JAW, AND BECAUSE

OF THE BRAINSTEM, YOU HAVE

TO REALLY WATCH IT.

HE IS DOING GOOD.

Terry: BOY, IT KEEPS

YOU ON YOR KNEES?

ABSOLUTELY.

BUT EVERY DAY KEEPS US ON

OUR KNEES AND WE'RE SO

THANKFUL.

Terry: WHAT IS EVIDENT

IN THE BOOK, "KELLY TOUGH,"

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU'VE

LEARNED IS TO LOVE LIFE

EVERY SINGLE DAY.

ERIN, YOU WROTE THIS BOOK

ABOUT YOUR DAD.

WHAT DID YOU WANT MOST TO

COMMUNICATE TO PEOPLE WHO

READ THE BOOK?

I REALLY WANTED TO

ENCOURAGE PEOPLE THROUGH OUR

STORY.

I KNOW EVERYONE HAS THEIR

OWN STORY AND STRUGGLES AND

TRIALS IN LIFE, AND I WANTED

TO ENCOURAGE AND INSPIRE THE

READER TO LIVE COURAGEOUSLY

AND FEARLESSLY BY FAITH,

KNOWING IN THE MIDST OF

THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES THAT

THEY CAN TURN TO THE

STRENGTH OF GOD.

Terry: THAT WAS REALLY

KIND OF A JOURNEY FOR YOU,

AS YOU WRITE IN THE BOOK,

THAT YOU GET HIT BY THINGS

LIKEIN EXPECTANTLY IN

LIFE, AND YOU'RE KIND OF

KNOCKED OVER A LITTLE BIT.

NOT KNOCKED OUT OF THE GAME,

BUT JUST KNOCKED OVER.

RIGHT.

Terry: AND THIS REALLY

HAS STRENGTHENED YOUR FAITH,

HASN'T IT?

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT GOING THROUGH

THE TRIALS AND THE STRUGGLES

HAS STRENGTHENED ME MORE

THAN IT HAS WEAKENED ME IN

MY STRENGTH.

I LEARNED TO DEPEND ON GOD

AND LOOK TO HIS STRENGTH IN

THE MIDST OF MY FATHER'S

WEAKNESS.

ONE OF THE THINGS I LEARNED

THAT STRENGTHENED MY FAITH

EVEN MORE, I HAD TO COME TO

THE PLACE WHERE I ASK

MYSELF, DO IGODNK THAT

IS STILL GOOD?

EVEN IF MY DAD STILL HAS

CANCER, DO I BELIEVE THAT

GOD IS IN CONTROL AND GOD IS

GOOD.

AND I CAME TO THAT PLACE

WHERE I SAID, YES, LORD, I

BELIEVE.

THAT IN THETHEST OF

BATTLE, YOU'RE SOVEREIGN AND

YOUR GOOD.

Terry: THE TITLE OF THE

BOOK IS"KELLY TOUGH."

AND JIM IS TOUGH.

YOU CAN'T PLAY IN THE NFL

AND NOT BE A TOUGH GUY.

BUT GIVE US AN EXAMPLE OF A

COUPLE OF TENDER MOMENTS YOU

HAD WITH YOUR DAD THAT

STANDS OUT IN YOUR MIND.

ONE OF THEM IS JUST THE

MOMENT WHERE WE WERE IN THE

HOSPITAL, AND JUST BEING BY

HIS SIDE.

AND I REMEMBER JUST HOLDING

HIS HAND AND SITTING THERE

TO HIS RIGHT AND HOLDING HIS

HAND AND PRAYING BECAUSE IT

WAS ONE OF THE DARKEST

MOMENTS.

AND I REMEMBER SITTING THERE

AND PRAYING AND WRITING IN

MY JOURNAL AND JUST CRYING

OUT TO GOD.

AND THAT WAS A MOMENT WHERE

I WAS THE ONE HAVING TO BE

STRONG FOR MY DAD.

AND I WAS THE ONE HAVING TO

RELY ON THE STRENGTH OF GOD

WHEN MY DAD WAS SO WEAK.

AND I FELT LIKE I WAS SO

USED TO HIM BEING SO STRONG,

AND HERE I AM THE ONE WHO

HAS TO BE STRONG FOR HIM.

Terry:JILL, THIS

SCENARIOTHAT YOU AND JIM

AND YOUR FAMILY HAVE GONE

THROUGH ISN'T THE FIRST

GREAT LOSS AND TRAGEDY THAT

YOU'VEEXPERIENCED.

RIGHT.

Terry: YOULOST A SON

EARLY ONMEN ON.

I CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE WHAT

HE HAD.

I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF IT.

TALK ABOUT THAT JOURNEY.

BECAUSE ONE OFTHE GREATEST

STRESSES, I THINK, IN A

MARRIAGE IS FOR ACOUPLE TO

LOSE ACHILD.

RIGHT.

Terry:MANY MARRIAGES

DON'T SURVIVE THAT.

SOMEHOW THE TWO OF YOU CAME

CLOSER TOGETHER?

STATISTICALLY, WE SHOULD

NOT BE MARRIED.

NFL MARRIAGES -- A LOT OF

THEM FALL APART.

HUNTER, WHEN WE FOUND OUT HE

HAD CRAB "A" DISEASE, IT IS

ABOUT A YEAR THAT I CAME TO

KNOW JESUS.

ONES JESUS INTERVENED,

EVERYTHING CHANGED.

IT TOOK A WHILE FOR JIM, BUT

GOD'S TIMING A PERFECT.

WE KNOW THAT.

BUT WE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT

LIFE, ABOUT UNCONDITIONAL

LOVE, ABOUT FAITH, ABOUT THE

SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD.

THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH WE

LEARNED THROUGH HUNTER'S

SUFFERING.

IT WAS ULTIMATELY THROUGH

THE SUFFERING.

Terry: AND I WAS

THINKING, AS YOU WERE

TALKING EARLIER, ERIN, ABOUT

RELYING ON THE SCRIPTURE,

ALL OF THOSE THINGS YOU READ

COME TO LIFE WHEN SOMETHING

LIKE THIS HAPPENS.

WHAT WAS READ BECOMES

REALITY FOR YOU.

AS YOU SAY INBOOK, THE

TEST BECOMESTESTIMONY.

THAT'S RIGHT.

AND YOU SEE THAT ALL

THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE.

AND WE SURVIVE ON THE WORD

OF GOD.

WE CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT

THE TRUTH OF HIS WORD.

Terry: AND IWANT TO

TALK ABOUTSOMETHING ELSE,

ERIN, BECAUSE I THINK YOUR

DAD IS SO BIGGER THAN LIFE

BECAUSE OF THE ROLE THAT HE

HAS PLAYED, NOT JUST

PROFESSIONALLY, BUT IN YOUR

FAMILY AS WELL.

I THINK SOMETIMES PARENTS

FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE TO BE

PERFECT FOR THEIR CHILDREN

TO RESPECT THEM, LOOK UP TO

THEM, LOVE THEM.

BUT YOUR DAD CAME TO YOU AT

A POINT IN TIME WITH A

CONFESSION THAT, FIRST OF

ALL, HAD TO BE VERY HARD FOR

A FATHER TO SHARE WITH A

DAUGHTER, THAT HE WANTS TO

LOVE AND RESPECT AND REGARD

HIM.

TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

THAT AND HOW YOU HANDLED

THAT.

HE CAME TO ME AND HE

ADMITTED TO ME AND ASKED FOR

FORGIVENESS THAT HE HAD NOT

BEEN FAITHFUL TO MY MOM.

AND FOR HIM TO COME TO ME

AND TO SAY THAT, AS HIS

OLDEST DAUGHTER, THAT MEANT

SO MUCH TO ME.

IT SHOWED MER ME WHO HE IS

AS A MAN, AND HE WANTED ME

TO RESPECT HIM AND HE WANTED

TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE THINGS

HE HAD DONE.

I JUST LOOKED AT HIM WITH SO

MUCH MORE ADMIRATION AND

PRIDE, BECAUSE OF WHAT GOD

HAD DONE IN HIS LIFE.

I HAD SEEN THE REDEMPTION OF

MY PARENTS' MARRIAGE, AND

HOW GOD WAS WORKING IN THEIR

LIVES.

ALTHOUGH IT WAS HARD FOR ME

TO HEAR THAT BECAUSE OF THE

LOVE I HAVE FOR MY MOM, AND

HOW I KNEW IT DEEPLY HURT

HER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME,

GOD SHOWED ME SO MUCH ABOUT

A LOVE THAT GOES BEYOND THE

PHYSICAL AND WHAT THE WORLD

SAYS LOVE IS.

Terry: JILL, YOU'RE

FAMILY HAS BEEN SO

INCREDIBLY TRANSPARENT

THROUGH MANY THINGS, AND

THAT IS A BLESSING BECAUSE

IT IS HELPS OTHERS.

THE LOSS OF HUNTER, DEALING

WITH JIM'S ILLNESS -- WHAT

HAS SUFFERING TAUGHT YOU?

OH, MY.

SUFFERING HAS TAUGHT ME

ABOUT THE GOODNESS OF GOD,

WHICH IS VERY INTERESTING.

AND THAT I CAN RUN TO THE

SUFFERING OF CHRIST WITH MY

SUFFERING.

IF WE DID NOT HAVE JESUS ON

THE CROSS, WE HAVE NOWHERE

TO GO WITH OUR PAIN.

HE KNOWS IT ALL, TOOK IT ALL

UPON HIMSELF.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE FIND OUR

HOPE, IN CHRIST'S

SUFFERING.

IT SHOWS ME THAT GOD IS

CONTROL.

AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

A RECOVERING CONTROL FREAK

THAT I MIGHT BE RIGHT NOW, I

KNOW HE IS IN CONTROL.

SO I'M THANKFUL.

Terry: AND GENTLE WITH

US AS WE WALK THROUGH THESE

TRIALS?

YES, VERY GENTLE.

Terry: IT IS SUCH AN

AMAZING BOOK.

BECAUSE IT IS KIND OF A

TEMPLATE FOR YOU AND I TO

LOOK AT, TO SEE HOW GOD HAS

USED ONE FAMILY'S SUFFERING

TO GROW THEM CLOSER TO HIM,

BIGGER IN THEIR FAITH, AND

MORE MEANINGFUL IN THE LIVES

OF OTHER PEOPLE.

ERIN AND JILL'S BOOK IS

CALLED "KELLY TOUGH."

I STRONGLY RECOMMEND IT.

YOU MIGHT NEED IT, OR MAYBE

YOU KNOW A FRIEND THAT NEEDS

IT.

IT IS WORTH A LOOK.

GET OUT AND GET IT.

THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING

HERE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

Pat: WHAT AN AMAZING

FAMILY.

THE KELLYS.

UP NEXT, WE HAVE YOUR

E-MAILS.

CORRINA SAYS, "WOULD IT BE

WRONG TO TITHE TO A PET

CHARITY?"

Pat: HEY, YOU'RE

WATCHING "THE 700 CLUB."

WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE WITH

US.

IT IS GOING TO BE GREAT.

WE'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS

THAT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND.

MAYBE IT WILL BLOW MY MIND.

Terry: I CERTAINLY HOPE

NOT.

TIME TO "BRING IT ON."

THIS IS FROM CORRINA, PAT,

WHO SAYS, "WOULD IT BE WRONG

TO TITHE TO A PET CHARITY

ORGANIZATION?"

Pat: CAN I TELL YOU A

STORY?

I WAS TOLD NOT TO TELL THIS

TO ANYBODY.

Terry: OH, DEAR.

Pat: I'M GOING TO TELL

IT.

I JUST CAN'T HOLD IT.

IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

WE HAVE A HOTEL AT REGENT,

AND IT IS CALLED THE

FOUNDERS INN.

AND THERE IS A LOVELY PLACE

CALLED THE FLOWERING ALMOND

SPA, WHERE LADIES CAN HAVE

MASSAGES OR PEDIS AND MANIS

AND ALL OF THAT STUFF THAT

COST A LOT OF MONEY.

THERE IS A KOI POND AT THE

ENTRANCE OF THAT THING.

THERE IS A FISH IN THERE, A

TIGER FISH.

Terry: IT'S GOOD TO

HAVE A FISH.

Pat: WE GOT A LETTER

FROM PETA.

AND PETA SAID -- YOU CAN'T

BELIEVE THIS.

LITTLE FISH GET LONELY, AND

WE NOTICED THAT IN YOUR

FLOWERING ALMOND SPA YOU

HAVE ONLY ONE OF THOSE

FISH.

WE KNOW THAT FISH NEED

STIMULATION.

AND HE IS LONELY.

AND WE WANTED TO BRING THIS

TO YOUR ATTENTION, AND WHAT

ARE YOU GOING TO DO IT.

I THINK THE MANAGER WROTE

BACK AND SAID, WELL, WE'VE

ALREADY EATEN HIM.

Terry: OH, MY.

Pat: SO YOU WANT TO

GIVE THOSE PEOPLE MONEY?

NO WAY.

I'LL TELL YOU.

A PET ORGANIZATION, IT'S

NICE, LOOK AFTER PETS.

I'VE HAD PETS, AND I'VE HAD

HORSES AND DOGS AND ALL KIND

OF PETS, INCLUDING A PET

FISH WHEN I WAS IN LAW

SCHOOL.

HE WAS A SWEET LITTLE FISH.

Terry: UNTIL THEY ATE

HIM.

[LAUGHTER]

Pat: NO, YOU CAN'T SAY

THAT YOU TITHE TO A PET

ORGANIZATION.

I'M SORRY.

Terry: THIS IS CINDY,

WHO SAYS, "THE DEPARTMENT OF

EDUCATION BEGAN GARNISHING

MY WAGES AFTER OFFERING TO

WORK OUT A REPLACEMENT PLAN,

DASHING MY HOPES OF

RETURNING TO SCHOOL FOR A

LAW DEGREE.

IT HAS CAUSED SUCH HARDSHIP

WITH MY MONTHLY BILLS.

IT HAS COME TO THE POINT I

STOPPED FAITHFULLY TITHING

BECAUSE OF IT.

I FEAR UNDER CONVICTION, AND

I FEAR THAT MY CAR WILL BE

REPOSSESSED AND I WILL BE

EVICTED BECAUSE I CANNOT GET

BILLS PAID.

I HAVE NEVER BEEN IN SUCH

DIRE FINANCIAL STRAITS.

ANY ADVICE?"

Pat: I DON'T HAVE

ENOUGH INFORMATION TO GIVE

YOU ADVICE.

BUT I KNOW IT IS A HUGE

BURDEN, TRILLION DOLLARS OR

MORE OF STUDENT DEBT.

AND PEOPLE GO TO THESE

SCHOOLS, ESPECIALLY THESE

FOR-PROFIT SCHOOLS, AND THEY

SIGN UP FOR COURSES THAT

THEY CAN'T AFFORD.

AND THEY DON'T BRING THEM

ANY INCOME.

AND THEY GET SADDLED WITH

$50,000, $100,000 WORTH OF

DEBT.

YOU SAID "THE DEPARTMENT OF

EDUCATION," AND I DON'T KNOW

IF YOU WORKED OR WHAT IT WAS

YOU DID.

BUT YOU'RE NEVER HOPELESS.

YOU'RE NEVER, NEVER, NEVER

WITHOUT SOME OPPORTUNITY.

SO BEGIN TO LOOK TO THE

LORD.

THERE ARE FINANCIAL ADVISORS

WHO ARE GOOD.

THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE NOT

GOOD.

SO YOU WANT TO FIND ONE WHO

IS HONEST AND REPUTABLE, TO

JUST SIT WITH YOU AND WORK

OUT A PLAN.

IT'S NOT AS BAD AS YOU

THINK.

YOU JUST NEED TO GET ALL OF

THE FACTS IN FRONT OF YOU.

THE LORD WILL SHOW YOU A

WAY.

Terry: THIS IS HOPELESS

IN TAMPA, FLORIDA.

"THE OTHER DAY I READ

MATTHEW 5: 31 AND FOUND

MYSELF FEELING VERY SAD AND

THEN ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED

WITH GOD.

I DIVORCED MY HUSBAND FOR

REASONS OTHER THAN

INFIDELITY.

MORE THAN ANYTHING I WOULD

LIKE TO REMARRY SOME DAY.

BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE NOT ONLY

WOULD I BE COMMITTING

ADULTERY, BUT I WOULD BE

CAUSING MY NEW HUSBAND TO BE

COMMITTING ADULTERY AS

WELL.

PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION."

Pat: IN THE ARAB WORLD,

A MAN CAN SAY, I DIVORCE, I

DIVORCE YOU, I DIVORCE YOU,

AND THAT'S ALL IT TAKES.

THE JEWS HAVE A RULE UNDER

MOSES THAT YOU CAN WRITE A

CERTIFICATE AND SEND A WIFE

AWAY.

JESUS SAID, IT ISN'T

SUPPOSED TO BE THAT WAY.

YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE

MARRIED FOR LIFE.

IF YOU DIVORCE YOUR WIFE,

YOU CAUSE HER TO COMMIT

ADULTERY AND YOU COMMIT

ADULTERY IF YOU REMARRY.

THAT'S THE RULE.

AND I HATE TO SAY, BUT IT

HAS BEEN VERY CONFUSING.

WHENEVER IT SEEMS JESUS IS

GETTING LEGALISTIC, IT

CAUSES CONFUSION.

SO I JUST BELIEVE IN YOUR

CASE, YOU'VE DONE WHAT YOU

HAVE DONE.

IT WAS A MISTAKE.

BUT NOW YOU WANT TO GET

MARRIED.

I DON'T THINK THE LORD

INTENDED YOU TO BE SINGLE

FOREVER.

BUT THERE MUST BE SOME OTHER

WAY THAT YOU CAN GET OUT OF

THIS THING.

THERE ARE MANY, MANY OTHER

GROUNDS FOR DIVORCE.

Terry: SHE IS ALREADY

OUT.

Pat: WELL, YOU'RE OUT,

BUT IN A SENSE YOU THINK YOU

DIDN'T HAVE THE GROUND TO DO

IT.

SO IT IS THE QUESTION OF NOT

THE DIVORCE, BUT THE

REMARRIAGE.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE YOU'VE

GOT A SCRIPTURAL GROUND TO

GO GET REMARRIED.

Terry: THIS IS GIANA

WHO SAYS, "I HAVE SEVERE

EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS,

INCLUDING DEPRESSION,

DISPAIR, AND ADDICTION.

I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD LIFE,

BUT I HAVE HAD SO MANY BAD

THINGS HAPPEN, I CAN'T

IMAGINE THE POSSIBILITY FOR

A HAPPY FUTURE.

HOW DO I FIND THAT?"

Pat: A MAN SHALL EAT

GOOD BY THE FRUIT OF HIS

LIPS.

YOU NEED TO CONFESS

VICTORY.

YOU SAY TODAY IS THE DAY THE

LORD HAS MADE AND I REJOICE

AND I WILL JOY IN IT.

JESUS CHRIST LOVES ME AND

I'M HIS CHILD, AND I

DECLARE VICTORY TODAY.

YOU'RE DECLARING DEFEAT AND

MISERY AND EVERYTHING BAD.

AND THE SPEAK THAT YOU SPEAK

IS COMING BACK UPON YOU.

YOU'RE CURSING YOURSELF WITH

YOUR OWN MOUTH.

YOU BEGIN TO BLESS THE

LORD.

BLESS THE LORD, O MY SOUL.

BEGIN TO READ THE BIBLE AND

SPEAK THE BIBLE, AND WATCH

WHAT HAPPENS.

Terry: SHELLEY

SAYS, "MY HUSBAND AND I ARE

MARRIED THREE YEARS AND

RECENTLY WERE BLESSED WITH A

LITTLE BOY.

EVERY SINCE OUR BABY WAS

BORN, MY HUSBAND HAS NOT

HELPED.

IT HAS NEVER AFFECTED MY

ROLE AS WIFE AND MOTHER.

> EVERY TIME I EXPERIENCE

SUCCESS, HE BECOMES

ABSOLUTELY COLD TO ME.

HE IS JUST AROUND DURING

MEAL TIME.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO HIM, BUT HE

AVOIDS IT.

I HATE THE IDEA OF DIVORCE,

BUT WHAT SHOULD I DO?"

Pat: HE'S GOT TO SHAPE

UP.

IT MAY BE HE IS JEALOUS OF

THE BABY.

IT MAY BE THAT YOU DON'T

REALIZE THERE HASN'T BEEN

THE SAME SEXUAL INTIMACY

THAT THERE WAS BEFORE THE

BABY.

IT MAY BE HE IS HAVING A

QUESTION OF INADEQUACY.

HE IS THINKING DOWN THE

ROAD, CAN I AFFORD TO

EDUCATE THIS CHILD?

YOU DON'T KNOW ALL OF THE

THINGS GOING ON IN HIS

MIND.

BUT HE NEEDS A PROFESSIONAL

COUNSELLOR, AND THE TWO OF

YOU NEED TO GO INTO

COUNSELLING.

IT IS NOT THAT HARD.

BUT THAT IS A CLASSIC

PROBLEM THAT COMES UP IN

PEOPLE'S LIVES.

IT IS EITHER JEALOUSY OR

SADNESS.

WE LEAVE YOU WITH TODAY'S

POWER MINUTE FROM PROVERBS:

"BY HUMILITY AND THE FEAR OF

THE LORD ARE RICHES AND

HONOR AND LIFE."

WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW.

BYE-BYE.

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